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[00:00:07] Hello everyone. Welcome back to the
[00:00:08] Price is My Life. We are live from West
[00:00:12] Palm Beach Thursday, this Thursday, uh
[00:00:15] on the heels of our big Glenn Prager
[00:00:19] bombshell inside the Department of
[00:00:21] Justice. And we have all the reactions,
[00:00:23] all the statements, and some new
[00:00:24] information. Uh we do a show each and
[00:00:27] every week here in Florida live with a
[00:00:29] special guest. But today's show we're
[00:00:31] going to be talking about the reaction
[00:00:34] from the Department of Justice. We've
[00:00:35] had a number of reactions. We're going
[00:00:37] to have guests calling in Laura Logan,
[00:00:39] Jack Vobic, uh possibly Alex Jones, and
[00:00:42] others. We're going to have your tips,
[00:00:45] investigative journalists out there, you
[00:00:48] citizens with information. We're going
[00:00:49] to be coaching you on the stories that
[00:00:50] you're working on. And we're gonna have
[00:00:52] subscriber Q&A portion where subscribers
[00:00:54] to O'Keeffe Media Group are able to call
[00:00:56] in and ask questions. But first, let's
[00:00:59] go to the story from yesterday. This is
[00:01:02] the investigator inside inside the DOJ
[00:01:04] has taken down his LinkedIn. Uh I hope
[00:01:08] you can see this. Glenn Prager before
[00:01:10] and after. This is remarkable. Nuked it.
[00:01:14] Nuked his LinkedIn. and Glenn Prager.
[00:01:17] Glenn uh Glenn Prager, not to be
[00:01:20] confused with Dennis Prager, Inspector
[00:01:22] General, Office of Inspector General,
[00:01:24] investigator inside the Department of
[00:01:26] Justice, worked for Lexus Nexus, worked
[00:01:28] for Health and Human Services. We're
[00:01:29] going to go through those reactions. Um,
[00:01:32] and let's let's see the backpack with
[00:01:35] the DOJ patch on it in the airport uh
[00:01:40] that where we struck up the conversation
[00:01:42] with this Department of Justice
[00:01:43] official. There you you see on the
[00:01:45] backpack it says Department of Justice,
[00:01:48] Federal Bureau of Investigation,
[00:01:50] uh there at Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport.
[00:01:52] You saw the video. It's got 8 million
[00:01:54] views. Uh we're going to just take you
[00:01:57] through a few sections of this video. Uh
[00:02:00] first, this this bit where he talks
[00:02:02] about paying off witnesses. Let's play
[00:02:04] that clip.
[00:02:12] >> You ready to go to trial? Mhm.
[00:02:14] >> And and um they would flip Epstein would
[00:02:18] just pay them off and they were just
[00:02:19] like these little kids pay off their
[00:02:22] broke kids and poor families and all
[00:02:24] that. So you pay him off like anywhere
[00:02:26] from $150 to $500,000. Nothing in that
[00:02:29] guy's praiser.
[00:02:31] >> So So you know what's interesting about
[00:02:32] this is that they're they're trying to
[00:02:34] say you'll see in a minute that well
[00:02:36] this guy doesn't know what he's talking
[00:02:38] about. He was exaggerating. He was
[00:02:40] embellishing.
[00:02:42] But in fact, Prager did interview
[00:02:45] Epstein victims and talks about it
[00:02:47] there. And we have the information now
[00:02:50] from Glenn Prager that Epstein was a
[00:02:51] quote CIA informant. That's at 2 minutes
[00:02:55] and 47 seconds. Let's play that clip.
[00:03:01] >> No, it's not talked about yet, but it's
[00:03:02] soon come out
[00:03:04] >> that he was a CIA.
[00:03:06] >> He was a CIA.
[00:03:07] >> He was a CIA. Although many have
[00:03:10] confirming there that Epstein was a CIA
[00:03:12] informant and then this section about
[00:03:14] Trump never being present during the
[00:03:17] sexual abuse on the airplanes. This
[00:03:20] seemingly exonerates Trump. It's not a
[00:03:22] bad thing for the White House
[00:03:24] >> with these kids
[00:03:25] >> and a rape occurred. But that can't be
[00:03:27] said for Clinton and it can't be said
[00:03:29] for others. While the Clintons were on
[00:03:31] the plane, while Bill Clinton's on the
[00:03:33] plane, there were rapes that occurred
[00:03:35] >> over her. Okay. Uh, and then this last
[00:03:38] part of the video, I reveal one of
[00:03:41] Charlie Kirk's last things he said to
[00:03:43] me. And we we actually isolated this and
[00:03:46] put this up online today because a lot
[00:03:48] of you felt that it was the most
[00:03:50] powerful part of the video. Uh, people
[00:03:53] tend to look at things through a highly
[00:03:54] political lens, but this is not a
[00:03:56] political story and we don't have a
[00:03:58] political mission. So, let's play 12
[00:04:00] minutes 18 seconds to 13 minutes of the
[00:04:02] video. him personally. I reached out to
[00:04:05] Charlie to solicit his advice ahead of
[00:04:07] this story. I was expecting Charlie Kirk
[00:04:10] to express the same reluctance as the
[00:04:12] top DOJ officials relayed to me. The
[00:04:15] same officials that Charlie, no doubt,
[00:04:17] in some part or in some way, matter,
[00:04:20] shape, or form helped to get their jobs
[00:04:23] in the first place. I told Charlie I was
[00:04:27] conflicted about what to do. And Charlie
[00:04:30] Kirk's last words to me were, "James,
[00:04:35] you should be a journalist first."
[00:04:38] >> So yeah, I mean, that's something that
[00:04:40] he shared with me uh as I sought his
[00:04:43] advice and feedback regarding doing
[00:04:46] this, regarding doing this story and
[00:04:49] stories like it.
[00:04:51] And we'll talk more about that here in a
[00:04:54] minute. Uh let's go to the call that we
[00:04:56] had with Glenn Prager. We actually
[00:04:59] called him three times in a row
[00:05:00] yesterday and some bumbling and fumbling
[00:05:04] responses from this guy and then we'll
[00:05:07] go to his text message to me yesterday
[00:05:10] afternoon.
[00:05:10] >> Yes.
[00:05:13] >> Hey there. Is this Glenn?
[00:05:15] >> Yes.
[00:05:16] >> You you work for the Department of
[00:05:17] Justice, correct?
[00:05:18] >> No.
[00:05:19] >> You you don't work for the Department of
[00:05:21] Justice. You had a patch on your
[00:05:22] backpack that said FBI, Federal Bureau
[00:05:24] of Investigation in the airport.
[00:05:26] >> Yeah.
[00:05:27] >> And You you talked about how you
[00:05:29] interviewed the Epstein people. Um all
[00:05:32] the Epstein victims. Do you recall that
[00:05:34] conversation?
[00:05:35] >> I didn't. No. I No. How can I help you?
[00:05:38] >> I wanted to confirm that you in fact do
[00:05:40] work for did work for the department.
[00:05:41] Hang on the phone.
[00:05:46] Let's try calling him again. Glenn,
[00:05:49] >> I'm not talking to you.
[00:05:50] >> I don't know who you are. I'm not
[00:05:51] talking to you. You you you you already
[00:05:52] did speak to my
[00:05:54] >> they always they always say
[00:05:56] >> I'm not talking to you after they just
[00:05:59] talked extensively to a rando. It's very
[00:06:02] it's very strange behavior but it's
[00:06:04] human behavior. It's it's natural
[00:06:06] behavior. Keep going.
[00:06:12] >> Now stop talking. I don't know who you
[00:06:14] are.
[00:06:14] >> I'm I'm a journalist. I need your I need
[00:06:16] your help, sir.
[00:06:18] >> I'm not talking to you or any
[00:06:19] journalists about anything. Did he
[00:06:20] interview the Epstein victims?
[00:06:22] >> I'm not. I can't talk to you.
[00:06:23] >> Okay, there it is. I can't talk to you.
[00:06:27] I can't talk to you, says Glenn Prager.
[00:06:30] If you're just tuning in, we are talking
[00:06:33] about the reactions to this bombshell
[00:06:35] story by acclamation of anybody that I
[00:06:38] really respect. They think this is this
[00:06:40] is obviously the most interesting piece
[00:06:42] of information I've ever reported in my
[00:06:44] life. By the way, there's a difference
[00:06:46] between something being uh the most
[00:06:49] important information and being covered
[00:06:51] everywhere. Huge difference. They might
[00:06:54] be inversely proportional.
[00:06:57] Let's go to uh this is Prager's text
[00:07:00] message to me. I want to throw that on
[00:07:03] screen. I'm going to read this text
[00:07:05] message to you. This reads like a North
[00:07:07] Korea style, you know, gun to the head
[00:07:10] sort of thing. quote, "I was approached
[00:07:13] and I'm going to read it in the way that
[00:07:15] I think he's saying it. I was approached
[00:07:17] in what I believed was a casual,
[00:07:20] non-professional context, and I later
[00:07:22] learned the individual
[00:07:25] was misrepresenting themselves, thinking
[00:07:27] it was simply personal banter." I
[00:07:29] respond in a kind clearly Glenn Prager
[00:07:31] has been coached in in how to write
[00:07:33] this, perhaps even coached by the powers
[00:07:35] that be. quote, "Any remarks from that
[00:07:39] exchange should not be interpreted as
[00:07:41] accurate statements or reflective of my
[00:07:43] actual work conduct or opin." It's so
[00:07:46] funny to contrast this statement with
[00:07:48] how he behaved on the phone with me.
[00:07:49] Quote,
[00:07:51] I want to ensure there is no confusion
[00:07:53] caused by that misleading interaction.
[00:07:55] Please stop calling and texting. It's
[00:07:57] approaching harassment. Printing any
[00:08:00] story related to my opinion is
[00:08:01] misleading and/or completely inaccurate.
[00:08:04] To make it perfectly clear, I was not
[00:08:06] involved in any way and any opinions are
[00:08:10] based on public information. Okay. Well,
[00:08:14] this is the first time we've seen a
[00:08:16] Department of Justice official say these
[00:08:17] things,
[00:08:19] say these things officially.
[00:08:22] Uh, so
[00:08:24] we get this text message from Glenn
[00:08:26] Prager to my phone personally
[00:08:29] and then we get a statement from the
[00:08:31] Department of Justice. Let's look at the
[00:08:32] statement, please. Let's first let's
[00:08:34] first go to this official statement.
[00:08:36] Official statement.
[00:08:39] I'm in the business of of exposing
[00:08:41] unofficial statements. By the way,
[00:08:44] let's take a look at the official
[00:08:45] statement, guys. It reads this
[00:08:46] individual. Okay. This individual worked
[00:08:49] at the Department of Justice as a
[00:08:50] program analyst
[00:08:52] over 15 years ago. Okay.
[00:08:57] He has no understanding of or access to
[00:08:58] the underlying facts of this
[00:09:00] investigation. His statement should not
[00:09:01] be considered accurate. It is disgusting
[00:09:04] that someone would further exploit
[00:09:06] victims of sexual abuse by fabricating
[00:09:08] stories for their personal benefit. Now,
[00:09:10] what's interesting about this statement
[00:09:12] is it seems like the DOJ's reaction is
[00:09:17] super revealing here because it actually
[00:09:19] almost validates his claims,
[00:09:21] particularly when they say fabricating
[00:09:24] stories for their benefit, personal
[00:09:26] benefit. How does Prager stand to
[00:09:28] benefit? It's like the Fizer guy who
[00:09:30] said, "I'm just trying to impress my gay
[00:09:33] date by lying about mutating vaccines."
[00:09:36] Because nothing makes a guy hornier than
[00:09:40] hearing about people talking about
[00:09:42] fabricating and stories about children
[00:09:44] on Palm Beach Island and mutating
[00:09:47] vaccines to make money about COVID. How
[00:09:50] does Glenn Prager stand to benefit? What
[00:09:53] is the basis of the statement?
[00:09:55] So why was it said some believe they
[00:09:58] slipped up and committed the common
[00:10:00] gaslighting tactic of projection
[00:10:03] that there are those benefiting from
[00:10:05] persu from perpetuating excuse me that
[00:10:08] there are those benefiting from
[00:10:09] perpetuating the cover up which
[00:10:11] effectively reinforces what Prager is
[00:10:13] saying now this bit about 15 years ago
[00:10:16] well yeah that's when that's when the
[00:10:18] things actually occurred it makes him
[00:10:20] more credible that he did this stuff 15
[00:10:22] years ago or 2007 2009 we've come to
[00:10:24] learn that this man actually was a W2
[00:10:27] employee or officially employed by the
[00:10:29] Department of Justice in 2007209 and has
[00:10:32] been a contractor. That's how they cover
[00:10:34] tracks when they have someone behave as
[00:10:36] a contractor. Now, we got a lot to get
[00:10:39] through here today. Um, and thank you
[00:10:42] all for tuning in and supporting us. For
[00:10:44] those of you tuning in, we are live from
[00:10:46] West Palm Beach, Florida. We are going
[00:10:49] next to the statement from the DOJ
[00:10:51] spokesperson via X. It's going to get
[00:10:54] stranger and stranger, everybody. This
[00:10:56] is from DOJ Spokes 47. I didn't know
[00:10:58] what this was. I thought it was a a sock
[00:11:01] account, a spam account.
[00:11:03] Quote, "Regarding the latest James
[00:11:06] O'Keefe bombshell." They put bombshell
[00:11:07] in quotes. As the Department of Justice
[00:11:10] has made clear, this individual left
[00:11:12] government service more than 15 years
[00:11:13] ago in a brief junior role.
[00:11:18] He has no knowledge or access to this
[00:11:20] investigation. His searches are
[00:11:21] baseless.
[00:11:23] exploiting survivors of sexual abuse by
[00:11:25] fabricating stars personal benefit is
[00:11:27] reprehensible. Enough with the
[00:11:28] clickbait. All right.
[00:11:31] Again, if he was doing this stuff 15
[00:11:35] years ago, or this is 2009, so it would
[00:11:38] be 15 years ago, that's when the stuff
[00:11:40] actually occurred.
[00:11:43] Now, if we go to his LinkedIn bio, can
[00:11:47] we do that for a minute, guys?
[00:11:50] This is This has all been taken down.
[00:11:51] This has all been scrubbed from the
[00:11:52] internet. By the way,
[00:11:54] this is the about section. Quote, do we
[00:11:56] have the about section? Can we throw
[00:11:57] that on the screen? Quote, during his
[00:12:00] tenure at DOJ, Mr. Prager served as
[00:12:02] inspector overseeing sensitive
[00:12:05] investigations involving major DOJ
[00:12:08] components, including the FBI, DEA,
[00:12:12] Bureau of Prisons, US Marshals Service,
[00:12:15] ATF, and the US Attorney's Office.
[00:12:18] special sensitive investigations
[00:12:21] involving major DOA DOJ components
[00:12:25] and you see there on his LinkedIn office
[00:12:27] of the inspector general investigator
[00:12:29] within the US Department of Justice.
[00:12:33] Let's go back to those tweets.
[00:12:37] Uh this is the DOJ spokesperson uh
[00:12:39] tweets at at directed at me.
[00:12:43] And then this is me saying uh during his
[00:12:45] tenure at DOJ Prager served as what I
[00:12:47] just said. The DOJ has not denied that
[00:12:49] he interviewed victims or his claims
[00:12:51] were false. And then DOJ spokesperson
[00:12:53] out of an abundance of caution. So the
[00:12:54] record is clear. As we stated in our
[00:12:56] statement, he was not an investigator.
[00:12:58] He was a program analyst. He did not
[00:13:00] interview any of Epstein's victims. His
[00:13:02] statements are false.
[00:13:05] But we're not done. The Department of
[00:13:07] Justice has responded multiple times and
[00:13:12] has come out swinging.
[00:13:15] And I want to read a passage from a book
[00:13:19] which
[00:13:21] I love
[00:13:23] called Manufacturing Consent.
[00:13:25] >> It's written by Nam Chomsky.
[00:13:29] You see the powers that be can't
[00:13:32] actually
[00:13:34] tell you the truth
[00:13:36] and Nam Chosky writes about this in
[00:13:38] manufacturing consent that the mass
[00:13:41] media isn't covering a story like this
[00:13:44] because they cannot the mass media can
[00:13:46] only report on the statements that are
[00:13:49] attributable to a government
[00:13:50] spokesperson. They have to believe the
[00:13:53] government. They can't question
[00:13:54] government. I've had press reach out to
[00:13:56] me saying, "Well, what about what the
[00:13:57] Department of Justice said?" I said,
[00:13:58] 'What about what the guy inside the
[00:14:00] Department of Justice said? And Chsky
[00:14:03] writes in manufacturing consent, page
[00:14:06] 18, that the mass media are drawn into a
[00:14:08] symbiotic relationship with powerful
[00:14:10] sources of information by economic
[00:14:12] necessity and reciprocity of interest.
[00:14:16] The media need a steady, reliable flow
[00:14:18] of the raw material of news. They have
[00:14:21] daily news demands and imperative news
[00:14:23] schedules that they must meet.
[00:14:27] Chsky goes on to write about government
[00:14:29] and corporate sources also have the
[00:14:32] great merit of being recognizable and
[00:14:34] credible by their status and prestige.
[00:14:37] News workers are predisposed to treat
[00:14:39] bureaucratic accounts as factual because
[00:14:42] news personnel participate in upholding
[00:14:45] a normative order of authorized
[00:14:46] knowowers in the society. Reporters
[00:14:49] operate with the attitude that officials
[00:14:51] ought to know what it is their job to
[00:14:53] know. In particular, a news worker will
[00:14:56] recognize an officials claim to
[00:14:57] knowledge not merely as a claim, but as
[00:15:00] a credible, competent piece of
[00:15:01] knowledge. So, when the Department of
[00:15:03] Justice puts out a statement,
[00:15:06] the journalists, I put the journalist
[00:15:07] with a little TM, trademark after the
[00:15:10] word, they have to believe this.
[00:15:13] It's part of the paragon of news to
[00:15:16] believe this versus what the guy said in
[00:15:18] the airport.
[00:15:21] This amounts to a moral division of
[00:15:23] labor. Officials have and give the
[00:15:26] facts.
[00:15:28] Reporters merely get them. But that is
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[00:15:34] That is not how we operate. We give you
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[00:15:42] You are the media. One more thing before
[00:15:44] we go to a quick quick break. This guy
[00:15:47] Glenn Prager got the position of vice
[00:15:49] president of big corporations acting as
[00:15:51] a consultant to the Department of
[00:15:52] Justice because of his time as a DOJ
[00:15:55] investigator, which they also list in
[00:15:57] his bio on LinkedIn. But he was never a
[00:16:01] DoD investigator. So this corporations
[00:16:04] these corporations hired a vice
[00:16:06] president without any confirmation of
[00:16:08] his qualifications and background.
[00:16:10] That's [ __ ] We'll go to a quick
[00:16:12] break and then we'll come in to hear
[00:16:13] from a few different people, some
[00:16:15] callers, some responses, breaking news
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[00:18:55] Hello everyone. Welcome back to Price is
[00:18:57] My Life. We are live from West Palm
[00:19:00] Beach, Florida, reacting to these
[00:19:02] Department of Justice statements. Glenn
[00:19:05] Prager revealing all inside of an
[00:19:09] airport. And I did give you all my
[00:19:10] thoughts and statements in the video
[00:19:12] release, but we are coming back live to
[00:19:14] uh take a look at some reactions from
[00:19:16] some of the people on the internet. Tim
[00:19:19] P uh Kenoka the Great. Let's let's throw
[00:19:22] some of those reactions up on the screen
[00:19:25] so everyone can see them. Tim Pool
[00:19:27] writing, "Holy [ __ ]
[00:19:30] that's um on the on the on the X
[00:19:34] account." Let's take a look at some
[00:19:35] other reactions.
[00:19:41] Shelonburgger's article, Michael
[00:19:43] Shelonburgger. These comments are made
[00:19:44] to the public before the release of an
[00:19:46] interview with a former Justice
[00:19:47] Department investigator who claimed
[00:19:49] working with O'Keefe that former
[00:19:50] President Bill Clinton was on Epstein's
[00:19:52] plane when girls were being raped and
[00:19:54] that Epstein worked for both the CIA and
[00:19:55] the Israeli government. In response to a
[00:19:58] query from public, that's Michael
[00:20:00] Shelonberger's website, White House
[00:20:01] spokesman Abigail Jackson said Democrats
[00:20:04] and the media knew about Epstein and his
[00:20:07] victims for years and did nothing to
[00:20:08] help them.
[00:20:10] >> While President Trump was calling for
[00:20:12] transparency
[00:20:14] >> and is now delivering on it with
[00:20:16] thousands of pages of documents as part
[00:20:17] of the ongoing oversight investigation
[00:20:22] and uh I believe we have some people
[00:20:25] possibly to call in. Do we have the
[00:20:26] call-in guests yet?
[00:20:31] Now, let's take a look at some other
[00:20:32] reactions to the story from the people
[00:20:34] all over the internet yesterday.
[00:20:37] The video, this is Canoa the Great. Did
[00:20:41] Glenn Prager investigate the Jeffrey
[00:20:43] Epstein's case for the Department of
[00:20:44] Justice? Was it recently or many years
[00:20:46] ago? And I think the response there is
[00:20:48] that all this stuff wasn't recent. this
[00:20:51] was uh 15 years ago or whatever the case
[00:20:55] may be. Uh a couple other reactions that
[00:20:59] people have responded this is zero
[00:21:01] hedge. Rather than make statements that
[00:21:03] further erode the public's trust in the
[00:21:05] DOJ, publish documents or other evidence
[00:21:07] that prove what you say. This is
[00:21:09] colloquially known as receipts. We have
[00:21:12] provided a receipt which is this guy on
[00:21:15] video in the airport talking about what
[00:21:17] he saw. They're just making statements.
[00:21:21] And this is Zero Hedge writes. We no
[00:21:23] longer live in a society in which the
[00:21:25] public default to trusting institutions
[00:21:28] of alleged authority. And that's kind of
[00:21:29] what Chomsky writes about in this book
[00:21:33] manufacturing consent that we that that
[00:21:37] the media tends to lean on the
[00:21:40] authorized knowowers of society. Another
[00:21:43] reason for the heavy weight given to
[00:21:45] official sources is that the mass media
[00:21:47] claim to be objective dispensers of the
[00:21:50] news partly to maintain the image of
[00:21:52] objectivity but also to protect
[00:21:54] themselves from criticisms and liel
[00:21:56] suits. They need material that can be
[00:21:59] portrayed as presumptively accurate.
[00:22:02] This is the challenge in a story like
[00:22:03] this everyone that people are going to
[00:22:06] be like well but O'Keefe what about what
[00:22:08] the DOJ is saying? I say what about what
[00:22:09] the guy saying in the airport? So they
[00:22:12] re they lean upon things of course that
[00:22:14] are presumptively accurate and it's also
[00:22:16] partly a matter of cost. Taking
[00:22:18] information from sources that may be
[00:22:21] presumed credible reduces investigative
[00:22:23] expense and risk whereas material from
[00:22:26] sources that are not primaaci credible
[00:22:29] or that will elicit criticism and
[00:22:31] threats requires you know doing that
[00:22:34] investigative journalism thingy. It
[00:22:36] takes time.
[00:22:38] So we have this reaction. What are some
[00:22:40] other reactions, guys? You have anything
[00:22:42] else?
[00:22:43] The quartering. I think I've been on
[00:22:46] this guy's show. The quartering.
[00:22:48] Do we have a video or is this just text?
[00:22:50] Let's play the video.
[00:22:52] We Well, I don't know which channel I'm
[00:22:54] going to upload this to. You see the
[00:22:57] Jeremy Hamley channel, which is my
[00:22:59] second channel where it's a little more
[00:23:00] uncensored, a little more spicy. If
[00:23:02] you're seeing this video while watching
[00:23:04] on the quartering, please do subscribe
[00:23:06] to my Jeremy Hamley channel. If you're
[00:23:08] watching it on Jeremy Hamley channel,
[00:23:09] well then you could also subscribe here
[00:23:12] too. Um, this is a very very big
[00:23:17] uh piece of investigative reporting from
[00:23:19] James O'Keeffe and uh he just DM'd me. I
[00:23:24] wish I could share our DMs. Um,
[00:23:28] it would be
[00:23:30] uh it is pretty hilarious. Maybe you'll
[00:23:32] see me tweet it out later. Um,
[00:23:35] it's it's wild. Uh, I'm actually Can I
[00:23:40] share this short exchange? Uh, it's very
[00:23:45] funny. If he texts back, I'll show you
[00:23:46] while we're live.
[00:23:48] >> Well, that was
[00:23:49] >> it's not live, but
[00:23:51] >> that that was him asking to put a shoe
[00:23:53] on my head, which we did. Uh, what other
[00:23:56] reactions we've got, guys?
[00:24:00] And we're waiting on I think it's Laura
[00:24:02] Logan for her response. Any callers yet?
[00:24:09] So, we we have Laura Logan calling in
[00:24:11] for a minute, but if you haven't picked
[00:24:13] up this book by Nam Chosky,
[00:24:16] manufacturing consent, it's something
[00:24:18] I've thought about for many years of my
[00:24:19] life. And you know, this idea of of um
[00:24:24] taking information from sources that are
[00:24:26] presumed credible. Some other reactions
[00:24:28] on X. This is um this is Matt responding
[00:24:31] to the story. Uh Glenn Prager didn't say
[00:24:34] he interviewed the victims yesterday. So
[00:24:36] the 15 years ago argument jives with his
[00:24:39] confession. Thanks for confirming he
[00:24:41] actually was a DOJ investigator. This is
[00:24:43] the DOJ's confirmation. Also, how did
[00:24:46] you guys, the DOJ, confirm in a matter
[00:24:48] of minutes that Glenn Prager had nothing
[00:24:51] to do with this investigation? How does
[00:24:52] that work? How does the Department of
[00:24:54] Justice confirm within a matter of
[00:24:56] minutes? And then Drew Hernandez
[00:24:59] responds to the story, clickbait. Who?
[00:25:02] Who wrote this? You people think we're
[00:25:04] stupid, don't you? Did Did the attorney
[00:25:06] general write this? I cannot hear the
[00:25:09] cringe attempt to sound assertive in
[00:25:11] this post. So, um, we've also learned
[00:25:15] that the Department of Justice had a
[00:25:19] very long day yesterday and we we took
[00:25:23] their time. Why? Why are you taking This
[00:25:26] is something I've learned from sources
[00:25:27] who've reached out to me that why are
[00:25:29] you taking our time, James O'Keefee,
[00:25:32] you're you're making life difficult for
[00:25:34] us. As what what are you talking about?
[00:25:37] I mean, this is my job. I'm not a
[00:25:40] political person. I'm not a political
[00:25:42] operative. I'm not a partisan person.
[00:25:44] I'm trying to ascertain the truth. So
[00:25:46] there was there was definite
[00:25:50] um push back on me personally, this
[00:25:53] organization.
[00:25:54] Uh attempts were made to get me to back
[00:25:58] off and back down.
[00:26:00] Don't hurt our team. I don't I don't
[00:26:02] know what that means.
[00:26:05] Um
[00:26:07] I I I I said to Alex Jones to say today
[00:26:09] that I I support the president. I
[00:26:12] believe in the president. The president
[00:26:13] supports me. Uh, but this is not even
[00:26:16] really about that. This is about
[00:26:18] something more specific happening 15
[00:26:20] years ago. Who was on airplanes? This
[00:26:24] man claims that Bill Clinton was in fact
[00:26:27] on the airplane when the rapes occurred.
[00:26:31] This is what he says. He says this is
[00:26:34] the very reason, according to the
[00:26:35] transcript of this video, this is the
[00:26:38] very reason why there's a cover up. Can
[00:26:41] we play that part of the tape again?
[00:26:44] Let's go to the tape and just play that
[00:26:46] one more time.
[00:26:50] >> This is Go ahead. Uh, this is the part
[00:26:53] about the airplane and Bill Clinton on
[00:26:56] the airplane
[00:27:01] and then we'll go to Laura Logan.
[00:27:05] He alleges that the reason
[00:27:06] >> Yeah. But it's soon come out
[00:27:08] >> that he was a CIA for
[00:27:10] >> he was a CIA.
[00:27:11] >> He was a CIA. I think he's protecting a
[00:27:13] lot of other people. It's not he's not
[00:27:14] protecting himself because there's
[00:27:16] nothing there, but he's protecting a lot
[00:27:18] of people
[00:27:18] >> because Trump's now saying it's a hoax.
[00:27:20] It's the case like a hoax or something.
[00:27:22] I mean, you know, it's not a hoax. He's
[00:27:25] been on the plane, you know, many times.
[00:27:27] >> Mhm.
[00:27:27] >> It's just he was never on the plane with
[00:27:29] the kids.
[00:27:29] >> I've seen the itineraries and and I've
[00:27:31] interviewed all the victims. There's
[00:27:33] never been an instance where Trump was
[00:27:34] on a plane with these kids
[00:27:37] >> and a rape occurred. But that can't be
[00:27:39] said for
[00:27:40] >> Okay. That can't be said for Clinton. I
[00:27:42] believe we have Laura Logan on the line.
[00:27:45] Can we bring in Laura Logan, my friend?
[00:27:49] >> He has anxiety.
[00:27:50] >> Hi, Laura. Um, I I used your line about
[00:27:54] accountability in my remarks about
[00:27:55] Charlie Kirk's passing and I used it
[00:27:58] again. I don't know if you had a chance
[00:28:00] to watch my standup and my comments
[00:28:02] about this recent development yesterday
[00:28:04] inside the Department of Justice. I'd
[00:28:06] love your thoughts on all of it.
[00:28:09] Well, James, you know, this is a
[00:28:11] obviously it's still a big story, right?
[00:28:13] Anything related to Epsteina and so um
[00:28:16] and this seemed to answer some questions
[00:28:19] that a lot of people have. Um you know,
[00:28:22] so once again, you're doing you know,
[00:28:24] you're doing um real journalistic work
[00:28:26] here that other people are not doing.
[00:28:28] And um I always like it when it's based
[00:28:30] on at least it's it's based on a
[00:28:32] firsthand source and not just based on
[00:28:35] somebody talking about somebody else.
[00:28:37] And I looked at the credentials of this
[00:28:39] guy. He certainly has all the
[00:28:40] credentials. I mean, I do I'm constantly
[00:28:43] amazed that you have these people with
[00:28:45] knowledge of things that are extremely
[00:28:47] significant that will just fill their
[00:28:49] guts. I mean, that's um that's just
[00:28:53] something I I don't really understand,
[00:28:55] you know. Um but I and I do think
[00:28:58] accountability does matter, but you
[00:29:00] know, I'm always conscious of what we
[00:29:02] don't know. That's always the thing that
[00:29:04] that bothers me about this is what else
[00:29:07] do we not know? Because I don't believe
[00:29:09] that Cash Patel and Dan Bonino suddenly
[00:29:12] became bad people and um and no longer
[00:29:16] mean what they say and they just, you
[00:29:18] know, break their word and whatever. I
[00:29:20] don't I don't think that narrative
[00:29:21] that's out there makes a lot of sense to
[00:29:23] me. They're I know uh both of them uh
[00:29:26] pretty well and they're consistent. I
[00:29:28] mean, I know Dan better than I know
[00:29:30] Cash, but um and I don't know Pam Bondi,
[00:29:33] and I know she gets hammered, but when I
[00:29:35] look at it strategically in terms of
[00:29:37] information warfare, I see that where
[00:29:39] there is a high concentration of effort
[00:29:42] on a particular individual or target, I
[00:29:45] try to assess, you know, what are the
[00:29:47] obvious reasons for that and then what's
[00:29:48] what are the reasons beyond that. So I I
[00:29:51] do find it very interesting that this
[00:29:53] guy, you know, seems to be wellplaced in
[00:29:56] terms of firsthand knowledge and
[00:29:58] information and that gives him a lot of
[00:30:00] credibility. I find it odd that he would
[00:30:03] just spill his guts to somebody he
[00:30:05] doesn't even know and then continue to
[00:30:07] do so. But you know, um if you look back
[00:30:09] even in the Bible, right, a honeypot is
[00:30:12] real. what was what was uh the serpent
[00:30:15] in the garden of Eden was really a
[00:30:16] honeypot in a sense you know and getting
[00:30:19] Eve to fall to do something that she
[00:30:22] could then deceive that was a honeypot
[00:30:24] operation and so these things have been
[00:30:25] around from the beginning of time and
[00:30:27] maybe men just get around sometimes they
[00:30:29] get around someone or you know you've
[00:30:31] interviewed a lot of gay people that
[00:30:33] have fallen uh for someone who seems to
[00:30:34] be gay and they will will say things
[00:30:37] that they wouldn't otherwise say that
[00:30:38] may be the explanation but you know
[00:30:41] regardless what did we really learn
[00:30:43] here? I mean, we learned a little bit
[00:30:45] more, quite a lot more actually, about
[00:30:48] the whole Epstein thing and what may be
[00:30:50] blocking the release. But I'm always
[00:30:52] conscious of the fact that EP is in, you
[00:30:55] know, in my investigation a midlevel,
[00:30:58] mid to lowlevel player. Um, because it's
[00:31:01] really the intelligence agencies that
[00:31:03] are running these operations. He's not
[00:31:05] running it. And the one that was the
[00:31:07] lynch pin in his operations was Gizlan
[00:31:10] Maxwell. she's she's really the key and
[00:31:13] why are they um you know why are they
[00:31:15] still holding her and what have we
[00:31:17] learned from her and why have we not
[00:31:18] seen any real prosecutions coming out of
[00:31:20] Gizan Maxwell that those are are still
[00:31:23] unanswered questions that
[00:31:25] >> um we'll hear more about yeah
[00:31:28] >> what did you make of the um DOJ did you
[00:31:30] see the DOJ reactions they uh they
[00:31:33] responded like a number of times it's
[00:31:35] actually quite extraordinary um they are
[00:31:38] saying that this guy I'm going to quote
[00:31:40] them left government more than 15 years
[00:31:42] ago in a in a brief role. And I find
[00:31:46] that kind of a strange reaction because
[00:31:48] the the whole point is what he witnessed
[00:31:50] in his role during that time. The the
[00:31:53] Epstein interviews didn't happen
[00:31:55] yesterday. They happened years ago. Uh
[00:31:58] and the the DOJ accused they it wasn't
[00:32:00] clear whether accusing me or him, the
[00:32:02] guy in the video of quote exploiting
[00:32:04] survivors of sexual abuse by fabricating
[00:32:07] stories. Um they all they sent another
[00:32:09] tweet out saying this guy is uh you know
[00:32:13] his statements are false. Um and they
[00:32:15] put and they put out an official
[00:32:17] statement uh the official statement we
[00:32:19] put up earlier and they also the guy
[00:32:22] sent me a long text message. This is the
[00:32:24] guy in the video and it it just seemed
[00:32:27] like a North Korea style written I mean
[00:32:29] it just seems fishy and I just wanted
[00:32:31] your reaction to these responses.
[00:32:35] >> Okay. So the the first reaction of
[00:32:37] minimizing his role, that's a standard
[00:32:40] tactic when you can't actually properly
[00:32:43] discredit someone. You can't say they
[00:32:44] didn't serve in the job they they were
[00:32:46] in. You can't say they weren't involved
[00:32:48] in the investigation. You can't do
[00:32:50] anything like that. So the first thing
[00:32:51] you do is minimize their role so that
[00:32:53] you you can minimize the credibility of
[00:32:56] what they're saying. And we we saw that
[00:32:58] with the attorney that was charged in
[00:33:01] the Russia collusion investigations
[00:33:02] where he was actually the one who
[00:33:04] altered the documents, went to the FIC
[00:33:05] court, said to the court that Carter
[00:33:08] Page, an American citizen and patriot,
[00:33:10] was a Russian spy, knew that he was
[00:33:12] working for the CIA, removed that
[00:33:13] information. I mean, he did massive
[00:33:15] things in that conspiracy and they
[00:33:18] immediately responded by minimizing his
[00:33:20] role. Oh, he was just a low-level
[00:33:22] attorney. He wasn't involved in much. It
[00:33:24] was all that none of that was true. So,
[00:33:26] you know, I always see that is a classic
[00:33:28] hallmark of an information uh warfare
[00:33:31] tactic. That's when you respond to
[00:33:33] something like this that you don't want
[00:33:34] out there, you immediately minimize
[00:33:37] their role to minimize the significance
[00:33:39] to to undermine the credibility. That's
[00:33:41] number one. Number two, you always look
[00:33:44] at um time, effort, resources that you
[00:33:48] allocate to countering the uh what is
[00:33:51] out there. So, if you're putting out
[00:33:53] multiple tweets, multiple messages,
[00:33:55] multiple responses, you've got the guy
[00:33:57] himself, probably somebody called him up
[00:33:59] and said, "What the hell are you doing?
[00:34:01] This is what we want you to do." And,
[00:34:03] you know, your future credibility and
[00:34:05] ability to function in whatever capacity
[00:34:07] he may or may not be in at this point,
[00:34:09] you know, is going to be in in whole or
[00:34:12] in part determined by whether you help
[00:34:14] us now or not, right? And so now that I
[00:34:17] I can't tell you that that definitely
[00:34:19] happened, but that's consistent with the
[00:34:21] kind of tactics that people use when
[00:34:23] they have a information that that is out
[00:34:26] and they don't want it out, but they
[00:34:28] still have links and connections to the
[00:34:30] person responsible. Like this guy is
[00:34:32] going to know a lot of people, right, in
[00:34:34] in law enforcement, in DOJ, in FBI. He's
[00:34:37] going to have people that say to him,
[00:34:38] "Hey, dude, you know what? What are you
[00:34:40] doing?" Uh, right. Well, I mean, trying
[00:34:42] to see if he will cooperate in walking
[00:34:44] it back. Well, they they that was pretty
[00:34:47] quick. I mean, he he sent me this text
[00:34:49] message pretty quickly and it was he was
[00:34:51] clearly coached or something because he
[00:34:53] said on the phone, "I can't talk to you,
[00:34:55] James."
[00:34:56] >> And then he sent me this very Kim Jong-
[00:34:59] ill-like statement. But you asked you
[00:35:00] said something earlier. I you don't
[00:35:01] know. This was not a honeypot, by the
[00:35:03] way. This was actually a guy in an
[00:35:05] airport. Well, I suppose it was a female
[00:35:08] that walked up to him, but it wasn't a
[00:35:10] date. It wasn't um uh something that we
[00:35:13] planned or done. bumble. I don't mean a
[00:35:15] date.
[00:35:16] >> Yeah.
[00:35:17] >> I mean he just might have been enamored
[00:35:19] by this person.
[00:35:20] >> Could be. But the the Fiser
[00:35:23] the gay Fiser guy, you know, saying we
[00:35:26] mutate viruses. I'm the vice president
[00:35:28] of a pharmaceutical company. I mean,
[00:35:29] it's kind of like, you know, I I spoke
[00:35:32] to someone at the uh I think it was
[00:35:34] Julia Brown at the Miami Herald, and she
[00:35:35] said just the fact that these guys are
[00:35:37] saying these things and their positions
[00:35:39] of power, um even if which I don't think
[00:35:42] is happening, but even if they're trying
[00:35:45] to impress somebody, it just stands to
[00:35:48] reason that it's not impressive to talk
[00:35:50] about all the people in Palm Beach Child
[00:35:52] and you interview these young girls who
[00:35:54] who apparently they the Department of
[00:35:56] Justice had to had to or Epstein rather
[00:35:59] had to bribe, you know, ahead of trial.
[00:36:01] I mean, that's a very weird thing to to
[00:36:04] brag about. Um, but, uh, I think, you
[00:36:08] know, Laura,
[00:36:08] >> well, James, that makes me that that
[00:36:11] makes me want to pick up on the third
[00:36:13] pillar. As you were reading, you were
[00:36:15] going through the response there. There
[00:36:16] were three things. And the final one is
[00:36:19] that they're trying to shame you. You
[00:36:20] know, how could you do this to the
[00:36:21] victims? That's the guilt thing, right?
[00:36:23] That's we're playing the moral uh card
[00:36:25] here. We're going to try and guilt you
[00:36:26] and shame you into this. And that's
[00:36:28] pretty odd because in and that's the
[00:36:31] actual card that gets played against
[00:36:33] them where they're most vulnerable
[00:36:35] because they're the ones that are
[00:36:37] accused of of betraying or letting down
[00:36:40] the victims by not actually doing
[00:36:42] anything about what all those those
[00:36:46] people that Jeffrey Epstein and Gizla
[00:36:48] and Maxwell have affected. So they're
[00:36:51] they know they're vulnerable there.
[00:36:52] That's why they hit you on that one,
[00:36:54] right? And it's and it's completely
[00:36:56] hypocritical. But the only thing I would
[00:36:59] say that you know to sort of balance
[00:37:01] this out if you're trying to make an
[00:37:03] assessment of the whole truth is just
[00:37:04] that um I I don't believe that that
[00:37:08] Donald Trump doesn't care about the
[00:37:09] victims of child trafficking or Jeffrey
[00:37:12] Epstein. So you know and I and I
[00:37:14] absolutely know that he was not involved
[00:37:16] in that and this guy confirms that. But
[00:37:19] there's something what else is happening
[00:37:21] here that we are not aware of in the
[00:37:24] bigger picture that has caused these
[00:37:26] people to take actions that a lot of
[00:37:28] their supporters you know feel are uh a
[00:37:31] betrayal or there's definitely a
[00:37:33] vulnerability there because people you
[00:37:35] know want the truth on Epstein and they
[00:37:37] want justice and rightly so and they
[00:37:39] should have. So if you think about it
[00:37:41] strategically what is the bigger picture
[00:37:42] here because these operations these
[00:37:44] Epstein style operations they haven't
[00:37:46] stopped. It's not like it ended with the
[00:37:50] arrests, you know, and the death of
[00:37:51] Epstein and and Maxwell. This is
[00:37:54] ongoing. And our own intelligence
[00:37:56] agencies are still running similar
[00:37:58] operations. P. Diddy was, you know, has
[00:38:01] all the hallmarks of another operation.
[00:38:04] And so the the question, you know, that
[00:38:07] really here is look at the you said this
[00:38:10] guy responded very quickly. Well,
[00:38:11] because they got to him very quickly,
[00:38:13] which tells you that they're they're
[00:38:15] concerned. This is and the DOJ got to
[00:38:18] this Glenn Prager guy pretty quickly.
[00:38:22] >> Yeah. Or the FBI. Somebody somebody in
[00:38:24] the administration, somebody got to him.
[00:38:28] >> There's an in congruence between the
[00:38:30] leadership of the organizations.
[00:38:33] >> I don't want to single out Cash or Pam
[00:38:36] or whoever the case may be. But there
[00:38:38] the rank and file are talking out of
[00:38:40] turn. This is the second time we've seen
[00:38:42] a story like this. The last guy was a
[00:38:44] DOJ prisons guy. This is a DOJ
[00:38:46] investigator, inspector general guy. And
[00:38:50] I mean
[00:38:51] I I mean I I agree with you. Nothing in
[00:38:53] I don't think this piece is bad for
[00:38:55] Trump. I mean it actually exonerates him
[00:38:57] from any sexual wrongdoing, which I
[00:39:00] assume was the case. But who's being
[00:39:03] protected? Like what do you think is
[00:39:05] actually happening? Logan.
[00:39:09] So James, if you look at this
[00:39:11] strategically, this is the Epstein thing
[00:39:14] is, you know, is huge because it relates
[00:39:17] to children and the exploitation of
[00:39:19] children, which as a, you know, as a a
[00:39:21] society, as decent human beings, anyone
[00:39:23] with a conscience, this has to be at the
[00:39:25] core of where you say we're not okay
[00:39:28] with this. So I don't want to minimize
[00:39:30] this in any way whatsoever. But if
[00:39:32] you're the president of this country and
[00:39:34] you have you're looking at a strategic
[00:39:36] plane with multiple lines of operation,
[00:39:38] one of those lines right now is the fact
[00:39:41] that you have al-Qaeda al-Shabaab
[00:39:43] magazine putting out, you know,
[00:39:45] information um they're rep that's been
[00:39:47] reported that they're saying churches
[00:39:49] and and schools um should be attacked.
[00:39:52] At the same time, you have Iranian
[00:39:54] revolutionary guards who have plans that
[00:39:56] intelligence many intelligence um
[00:39:59] related group looking at right now where
[00:40:02] they've got plans to go after first
[00:40:03] responders and hospitals and other soft
[00:40:06] targets. You you know at the same time
[00:40:08] you've got um Antifa riots in the
[00:40:11] street. So what you're looking at is a
[00:40:13] blue green red alliance. So the blue is
[00:40:16] the globalists and the uh and the
[00:40:19] technocrats and the deep state. The red
[00:40:22] is the Marxists and um the left uh right
[00:40:25] and the green is the and both Shiites
[00:40:28] and Sunni al-Qaeda, Persians, Iran,
[00:40:30] IRGC. So if you imagine we we have a
[00:40:33] very serious high level threat right now
[00:40:36] that they are going to do something you
[00:40:38] know what's possible right what
[00:40:39] intelligence agencies have gamed out is
[00:40:42] you have an attack on multiple schools
[00:40:44] and hospitals and as you dial 911 you
[00:40:47] know you have the streets blocked by
[00:40:48] protesters and whatever and then the
[00:40:51] people that come in dressed as first
[00:40:53] responders law enforcement or emergency
[00:40:55] responders are not real they are Iranian
[00:40:58] revolutionary guard kill teams that have
[00:41:00] been in this country that were led in
[00:41:02] under Joe Biden. Plus, you have, you
[00:41:03] know, 300,000 uniform members of the
[00:41:05] Chinese people's liberation army with
[00:41:08] special operations units from China with
[00:41:10] hacking teams with, you know,
[00:41:12] clandestine covert spy units and so on.
[00:41:15] So, we have a massive national security
[00:41:18] issue that is that is coming to the
[00:41:21] four. When you see Trump designating the
[00:41:23] cartels as foreign terrorist
[00:41:25] organizations and and TIFA as domestic
[00:41:27] terrorists, this is these are signs that
[00:41:29] the administration is aware of these
[00:41:31] threats and they're closing in on these
[00:41:34] people. And what it also means is
[00:41:36] they're closing in on the money because
[00:41:38] the theft of our elections has been in
[00:41:40] part financed by millions and and
[00:41:44] billions of dollars from abroad. And how
[00:41:46] do these how does this money move? A lot
[00:41:49] of it moves through these terrorist
[00:41:51] networks and through the networks of
[00:41:53] coercion, extortion, and corruption
[00:41:56] around Jeffrey Epstein and Gizlan
[00:41:58] Matcla, right? Where you're um where
[00:42:00] you're trading in children, exploiting
[00:42:03] uh young boys and girls, corrupting
[00:42:05] politicians and bringing people into
[00:42:07] these networks. Um I mean the IRGC,
[00:42:10] which actually runs Iran, not the
[00:42:12] Ayatollahi who works for them. The
[00:42:14] Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps is one
[00:42:16] of the most powerful criminal
[00:42:18] organizations on earth. They're
[00:42:20] trafficking in children. They're
[00:42:22] connected to these Epstein networks. The
[00:42:25] same goes to the Saudis. I mean, the
[00:42:26] same goes for every nation on earth. So,
[00:42:29] when you say why, you know, why if you
[00:42:31] look at this in isolation, it looks one
[00:42:34] way. If you put this into just that's
[00:42:36] just on the that's just on one aspect of
[00:42:38] what this administration is dealing
[00:42:40] with, right? One aspect of it. The other
[00:42:43] aspect of it is of course in the
[00:42:44] immigration sense and the crime sense.
[00:42:46] Yes, they're cleaning up these cities.
[00:42:48] Yes, they're deporting people. Why?
[00:42:50] Because these people, these foreign
[00:42:53] paramilitary terrorist organizations
[00:42:55] like trend aragua, like cartel dels,
[00:42:58] those are both out of Venezuela, like
[00:43:00] out of Mexico. They are the army of the
[00:43:02] deep state. So when you have this
[00:43:04] nightmare attack scenario carried out,
[00:43:06] what happens if you then have other
[00:43:08] shootings at the same time? you have
[00:43:10] other criminal activity from these
[00:43:11] foreign terrorist organizations. This is
[00:43:14] what you're looking at. This is, you
[00:43:16] know, the whole picture that they're
[00:43:17] dealing with, never mind on the economic
[00:43:19] front, dismantling the Federal Reserve,
[00:43:22] you know, dealing with the Fed uh chair,
[00:43:24] that whole thing that's that's crumbling
[00:43:26] before our very eyes. And uh and then
[00:43:29] the like what happened when Charlie Cook
[00:43:31] was assassinated? At the very same
[00:43:32] moment, you had an a school shooting and
[00:43:35] nobody even paid attention to that
[00:43:36] because everyone was focused on Charlie.
[00:43:39] We've got Laura, we got we only got a
[00:43:40] minute left. Sorry. Sorry to cut you
[00:43:42] off, but we've only got a minute. We
[00:43:43] have the next caller in, but we did we
[00:43:45] did see that the CIA he did confirm that
[00:43:48] Epstein was CIA and and um and thank
[00:43:51] you. Thank you for your thoughts and
[00:43:53] thank you for your your feedback. Um um
[00:43:56] and I loved your message.
[00:43:57] >> These are all intelligence operations,
[00:44:00] James.
[00:44:00] >> Well, and maybe that's why the
[00:44:02] leadership can't be transparent then,
[00:44:03] right? That's what I take from what
[00:44:04] you're saying. The leadership can't tell
[00:44:06] us the truth because they can't reveal
[00:44:08] their sources and methods. They can't
[00:44:09] reveal intelligence methods.
[00:44:11] >> So, thank you, Laura.
[00:44:13] >> But it doesn't mean they won't.
[00:44:15] >> Well,
[00:44:15] >> timing timing is everything, you know.
[00:44:18] >> Well, the rank and file are the
[00:44:20] leadership or not. So, the rank as long
[00:44:22] as there are uh O'Keefe citizen
[00:44:25] exposers, but thank you, Laura, for your
[00:44:27] time. We're going to go to the next
[00:44:28] caller. I appreciate it very much. I
[00:44:30] think we
[00:44:31] >> I think you're amazing, James. Don't
[00:44:33] stop. Keep doing it. You bet.
[00:44:34] >> Love you.
[00:44:35] >> Love you, too. Um, who do we have on
[00:44:37] deck team?
[00:44:38] >> All right.
[00:44:39] >> All right. Uh, we have Jack
[00:44:42] Jack Bobic on the air
[00:44:46] moments away. We have Jack Bobic, who I
[00:44:50] think he'll be dialing in in a second.
[00:44:54] Hey, Jack, are you there?
[00:44:54] >> Hey, James, do you have me there?
[00:44:56] >> Yes, I got you.
[00:44:57] >> Yes, I'm here. Can you hear me?
[00:44:59] >> Yeah. Great job. Great job, Jack, with
[00:45:01] the the speech in Arizona. I saw you on
[00:45:04] the on the uh main stage with the rosary
[00:45:07] >> standing right in front of you. That
[00:45:09] must have been incredible. I mean,
[00:45:11] actually, take a moment to tell my
[00:45:13] audience.
[00:45:15] >> I mean, everyone saw what you said and
[00:45:18] around the world, but I just I guess on
[00:45:19] a human level, what was it like for you
[00:45:21] standing up in front of 74,000 people in
[00:45:23] that very spiritual moment?
[00:45:27] Yeah, James, and and and thank you, by
[00:45:29] the way, for for saying that and also
[00:45:31] for being there on on that day. You
[00:45:34] know, people keep asking me about it.
[00:45:36] They say, you know, it's it's, you know,
[00:45:39] your biggest speech, the biggest
[00:45:41] audience, you know, Matt, there's 74
[00:45:43] mill 74,000, I guess, in the room. And
[00:45:46] then we had the arena next door. I think
[00:45:49] it was 200,000 total. you count the
[00:45:51] amount of people who came out plus
[00:45:53] however many around, you know, the
[00:45:54] networks and and I've seen the ratings
[00:45:56] and numbers, but you know, honestly, I I
[00:46:00] wish I could say that I enjoyed a second
[00:46:03] of it, but I didn't. I I I didn't want
[00:46:05] to be there. I didn't want to be having
[00:46:08] to give a speech like that or or a
[00:46:10] memorial like that or participating in
[00:46:12] that because it doesn't mean anything to
[00:46:15] me if Charlie's not there. And the fact
[00:46:18] that they took Charlie from us and I
[00:46:20] understand he's there in spirit and I
[00:46:22] believe that. But the fact that they
[00:46:24] took Charlie from us and that generated
[00:46:26] all of this.
[00:46:29] That's not something I'm going to move
[00:46:30] on from. And that's that's just how it
[00:46:33] felt, you know. Um it it shouldn't have
[00:46:35] happened. It shouldn't have been done
[00:46:36] that way. And sure, I' I I'd love to
[00:46:40] give big speeches, but but not like
[00:46:42] that. Not not that way, you know. And it
[00:46:45] and it feels uh feels illgotten in that
[00:46:47] sense. And so look, I I just tried to be
[00:46:51] there for
[00:46:52] Erica, for the family, for the broader
[00:46:55] Turning Point family as much as as I
[00:46:58] can. I've been here in Phoenix since it
[00:47:00] happened. Basically, I haven't even gone
[00:47:01] home to my family. And uh my wife Tanya
[00:47:04] has been very very supportive. She
[00:47:05] brought them out to the memorial. I
[00:47:07] think I think you saw them actually. And
[00:47:10] yeah, I I I wish I could say I enjoyed a
[00:47:12] single second of it, but I really
[00:47:13] didn't. Uh, Jack, well, one more
[00:47:15] question before I ask you about this
[00:47:16] latest uh, tape invol in the Department
[00:47:18] of Justice. I want to get your reaction
[00:47:20] to the tape and the DOJ's reaction to
[00:47:22] the to the tape, which I I know you saw.
[00:47:24] I saw I think you posted or was it Benny
[00:47:26] or Mike McCoy, but it was a video of
[00:47:28] Charlie privately, like maybe right
[00:47:30] before the election, uh, some backstage.
[00:47:33] Did you post I think you did post this
[00:47:35] and Charlie said, um, why don't the
[00:47:38] right go on offense? Why don't
[00:47:39] Republicans why don't why doesn't the
[00:47:40] right go on offense? And Charlie says
[00:47:42] because and he lists Bannon, Trump, and
[00:47:46] myself. Like he lists all the things
[00:47:48] that happen to people who do go on
[00:47:50] offense. Do you know the clip I'm
[00:47:51] talking about?
[00:47:53] >> Was this backstage?
[00:47:54] >> Yeah. I I think Mikey a bunch of us
[00:47:56] posted it.
[00:47:57] >> Yeah. Yeah. And I And I thought that was
[00:47:59] very I thought that was very
[00:48:00] interesting. I wanted to get your
[00:48:01] thoughts on what he was saying there
[00:48:02] about is the reason why people don't go
[00:48:04] on the front lines because they're
[00:48:06] deterred from doing so because they
[00:48:08] watch other like Bannon go to jail,
[00:48:09] Trump get indicted, you know, he Charlie
[00:48:12] mentioned myself with the FBI and
[00:48:13] getting removed from my company and I
[00:48:15] just wanted your thoughts on Charlie's
[00:48:17] private words that were published.
[00:48:21] Well, I think it's I think it's correct
[00:48:22] and I I'm I'm I'm glad, by the way, that
[00:48:25] he put that out and I'm glad that um I
[00:48:27] was glad to share it because I do think
[00:48:30] that there's an effect of that going on
[00:48:31] where there are many uh it's not just
[00:48:35] Republicans, but Republicans and
[00:48:37] Democrats who are
[00:48:40] involved in in what they say, oh, we're,
[00:48:42] you know, we're fighting back, we're
[00:48:44] going to fight the left, we're going to
[00:48:45] do all this. But then when it comes to
[00:48:47] actual actions to be taken, whether in
[00:48:50] the name of transparency or in the name
[00:48:52] of arrests or uh actually doing
[00:48:55] something to the domestic terror
[00:48:58] networks that are are operating on our
[00:48:59] soil, there the actions don't follow
[00:49:03] through with the words and the strongly
[00:49:06] worded letters and tweets. And Charlie's
[00:49:09] right because he's gone to DC and he's
[00:49:11] met with them and he's realized that
[00:49:13] there is a sense of fear. There's a
[00:49:17] palpable sense of fear that it's it's
[00:49:19] very easy to be there and have your
[00:49:21] wonderful office and uh go up on Capitol
[00:49:24] Hill and then go out to your district
[00:49:26] and collect money or go all around the
[00:49:28] world on these congressional
[00:49:29] delegations. But at the end of the day,
[00:49:32] if you have to come up and actually face
[00:49:34] danger like a James O'Keefe or a Steve
[00:49:38] Bannon or a Charlie Kirk or a Donald
[00:49:40] Trump, many of them cower. Many of them
[00:49:43] back down and they say, "I'm not willing
[00:49:45] to actually walk towards the fire
[00:49:48] because it's too hot." And
[00:49:50] unfortunately, there are too far too
[00:49:52] many of these individuals in DC. And
[00:49:55] deep down, and this is what Charlie was
[00:49:56] saying, he's really getting at. Deep
[00:49:58] down, they're terrified.
[00:50:00] >> Deep down, they're not willing to admit
[00:50:02] it. Um, did did Charlie have you from
[00:50:05] this is this is my opinion, my
[00:50:07] perspective, and you knew him even I
[00:50:08] mean, you were very close to him. I I
[00:50:10] was somewhat close to him, particularly
[00:50:11] after the Veraritoss thing blew up. He
[00:50:14] really helped me and you and I and him
[00:50:15] hung out a few times. Did Did he have a
[00:50:18] little bit of a change of heart towards
[00:50:19] the end of his career? because I've seen
[00:50:21] people say that he he really he really
[00:50:24] kind of even kind of got I think Andrew
[00:50:26] Culver say he got a little disillusioned
[00:50:27] or what what did he say about politics
[00:50:29] and just had a little bit of a change of
[00:50:31] of of pace or a change of heart. Is
[00:50:33] there anything about that that you can
[00:50:34] speak to in your knowing him and
[00:50:36] observing him
[00:50:38] >> the last few months of his life?
[00:50:40] >> Yeah, I guess I would So Charlie was
[00:50:42] ever ever since Trump got reelected um
[00:50:45] you know I I live in the DC area. I'm in
[00:50:47] Phoenix right now, but I I I live in the
[00:50:49] DC area. And so Charlie would come to DC
[00:50:52] to, you know, more frequently. So he
[00:50:54] hadn't really been in DC for all the
[00:50:56] years that that that Biden was in
[00:50:57] office. But then he would start coming
[00:50:59] back after the inauguration and then
[00:51:01] with the Trump White House and he would
[00:51:03] come and make visits and some of those
[00:51:04] visits haven't even been made public,
[00:51:07] you know, but he would see me or we'd be
[00:51:08] chatting uh when he came to town and he
[00:51:11] would tell me, he said, "Jack, I can't
[00:51:12] understand how you can live here. I I I
[00:51:14] just can't understand it." He goes,
[00:51:15] "It's it's it's so imperial and it's
[00:51:18] bold and it's and it's it's stark and
[00:51:21] and just dehumanizing to be here and I
[00:51:26] don't like being in DC. I want to be out
[00:51:28] with the people out in real America."
[00:51:31] And he just kept saying it over and over
[00:51:33] about how the sense of people in
[00:51:35] Washington DC is so fake. And so that
[00:51:38] disillusionment you're talking about,
[00:51:39] that's absolutely something that I
[00:51:42] noticed with Charlie since, you know,
[00:51:44] he's been making these trips back to DC.
[00:51:46] Not not, by the way, not talking about
[00:51:48] people inside the Trump administration,
[00:51:50] but, you know, sort of other people that
[00:51:52] he might see or other things that he
[00:51:54] would hear about when he was coming to
[00:51:55] town. And he really, you know, you go
[00:51:59] back and, you know, I'm sitting in the
[00:52:00] Turning Point office right now and you
[00:52:02] go back to the origins of of Turning
[00:52:05] Point and there used to be this idea
[00:52:06] that, well, if we, you know, if we just
[00:52:08] get the right people in office and all
[00:52:10] of these states and
[00:52:12] >> everything will be okay and everything
[00:52:13] will be fine. And and I think he's he's
[00:52:15] starting to realize that, you know, it
[00:52:17] it takes way more than that. And and for
[00:52:20] Charlie, you could also see as he was
[00:52:23] turning down the political, what was he
[00:52:26] what was he moving towards? He was
[00:52:27] moving more towards the spiritual and he
[00:52:30] was moving more towards the
[00:52:33] gospels, more towards Christ, towards
[00:52:35] God. And and you know, I think that also
[00:52:37] comes through the the life events that
[00:52:40] he had gone through in just the last
[00:52:41] couple of years. uh marrying Erica,
[00:52:44] becoming a father, uh having a second
[00:52:46] child, you know, all of those things
[00:52:49] tend to have that effect on on anyone
[00:52:52] who goes through them. And so I think
[00:52:54] you really saw him leaning into that
[00:52:56] more.
[00:52:56] >> Well, I think it's different when you're
[00:52:58] when you're governing or you're in in
[00:53:00] power, so to speak, versus up against
[00:53:02] it. Speaking of people who are in power,
[00:53:04] you're I I showed you the story. The DOJ
[00:53:07] is kind of pushing back pretty hard
[00:53:10] against me and uh the guy is an
[00:53:12] investigator and he interviewed the
[00:53:14] victims in 2007, 2008, 2009. They're
[00:53:16] saying, "Well, this was 15 years ago. I
[00:53:17] just wanted to get your thoughts on the
[00:53:19] on the video and the reaction to the
[00:53:21] video and anything you want to say about
[00:53:24] what you witnessed because you're kind
[00:53:25] of in it and you're you're close to the
[00:53:27] ground on this Epstein stuff."
[00:53:31] >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I have been and and in
[00:53:33] terms of the the first investigation and
[00:53:35] then sort of the uh the uh cavalcade of
[00:53:39] uh the Epstein situation as it's spilled
[00:53:42] out over the last couple of months here,
[00:53:44] last six, seven months. And you know,
[00:53:47] look, let's let's take it back this way.
[00:53:49] It's fantastic video that you found, but
[00:53:51] let's talk about CIA operations and
[00:53:54] clandestine operations, source
[00:53:55] operations, human source operations. How
[00:53:58] do they work? You know, when when you
[00:54:01] say someone, and this comes up all the
[00:54:02] time, you saw this with January 6 in
[00:54:04] those investigations as well, where they
[00:54:06] would say, "Well, we didn't have any
[00:54:07] agents in the crowd. There was no agent
[00:54:09] in the crowd." Well, that's not how an
[00:54:12] investigation would work. And speaking
[00:54:13] as a guy who is a prior intelligence
[00:54:16] officer, the way that you run sources,
[00:54:19] if you're the, in my case, military
[00:54:20] officer, so is it overseas, but if you
[00:54:23] were a uh, you know, if you were a
[00:54:26] federal law enforcement in the US or
[00:54:28] another agency perhaps using someone,
[00:54:32] um, you you use sources to do your dirty
[00:54:36] work for you. So that source isn't
[00:54:39] necessarily going to be on payroll. And
[00:54:42] there certainly their name isn't going
[00:54:44] to be on any list anywhere. You know,
[00:54:45] you'd have a code name or something like
[00:54:47] that. Maybe maybe if it were written
[00:54:49] down. Uh but even then the source
[00:54:52] identities are something that is kept
[00:54:54] under lock and key. So your sources and
[00:54:58] then your subsource network. So you'd
[00:55:01] have a source with multiple sources. So
[00:55:04] that source could be running a subsource
[00:55:05] network for you in any given place.
[00:55:08] those subsources might not and what do I
[00:55:10] mean by by this I know it sounds a
[00:55:12] little but it's like this the people
[00:55:16] giving the information actually
[00:55:17] collecting the information then passing
[00:55:20] it on they might not even know who
[00:55:22] they're working for they have no idea
[00:55:25] that the information is going somewhere
[00:55:27] back that's what compartmentalization
[00:55:30] means so okay if Epstein is collecting
[00:55:33] information the people that are under
[00:55:36] him or the people that are one level
[00:55:37] below owe him. They have no idea where
[00:55:39] it's going. They don't even know they're
[00:55:40] collecting information. They might just
[00:55:42] be gossiping with them and they think,
[00:55:44] "Oh, he's just a man about town who's
[00:55:46] uh, you know, who's who's talking, you
[00:55:49] know, just sharing pillow talk or
[00:55:51] something like that." And and and that
[00:55:53] is the very nature of these operations.
[00:55:57] And at the same time, he wouldn't be
[00:55:59] telling, you know, obviously you're not
[00:56:01] broadcasting that out to his circle,
[00:56:03] perhaps anyone in his inner circle other
[00:56:06] than maybe this Galain Maxwell or any
[00:56:08] others that you wouldn't tell anyone
[00:56:10] unless you had to tell them. So these
[00:56:13] people have handlers. That's the way
[00:56:15] these operations work.
[00:56:16] >> Is it just to protect uh Is that
[00:56:19] >> methods here? Just the reason why the
[00:56:21] leadership can't be more train the
[00:56:23] leadership can't say what this guy is
[00:56:25] saying specifically about Clinton and
[00:56:27] about paying off victims ahead of trial
[00:56:29] is they want to protect their methods.
[00:56:31] Jack is that is that the reason why the
[00:56:33] leaders can't be transparent in the way
[00:56:35] this man is being. James, what I'm
[00:56:38] saying what I'm saying is they might be
[00:56:40] protecting operations that are still
[00:56:42] ongoing,
[00:56:42] >> still ongoing
[00:56:43] >> because if there are other sources in
[00:56:45] this, if there are sources that are
[00:56:47] still involved in these types of things,
[00:56:49] they could still be in places that are
[00:56:52] related to or have evolved into new
[00:56:55] generations of a network that is still
[00:56:58] up and running somewhere in the world
[00:57:00] that is connected back to these. It's
[00:57:03] it's think of any human network of
[00:57:06] people. It goes through generations, but
[00:57:08] there's always ways you can track it
[00:57:10] back to the original source. And so if
[00:57:13] there are operations that are still
[00:57:15] going on in the field, and here's what's
[00:57:17] very interesting, by the way, leadership
[00:57:20] might not even know that the operation
[00:57:22] is going on because by the nature of the
[00:57:24] CIA, you could have operations that are
[00:57:27] a a clandestine operation
[00:57:29] uh or an ATCM operation that is only
[00:57:33] known by two or three people have the
[00:57:37] actual full contours of the whole thing.
[00:57:39] They might not have even told and
[00:57:41] certainly the CIA is known for uh
[00:57:42] running operations off the books. They
[00:57:44] might not even tell people all the way
[00:57:47] up. So the idea is that there can be
[00:57:48] blanket denials or something like that
[00:57:50] is just that's just not the nature of
[00:57:53] how the business works.
[00:57:54] >> Jack, thank you so much for your time.
[00:57:56] Talk to you soon, friend. Thank you.
[00:58:00] >> Okay.
[00:58:00] >> Thanks so much, James. Keep up the great
[00:58:02] work.
[00:58:02] >> Thanks, Jack. So that was Jack Bobic
[00:58:04] talking about specifically about the CIA
[00:58:06] aspects here and how intelligence
[00:58:07] gathering works. very fascinating. I
[00:58:10] have a little bit of training and
[00:58:11] experience with the with the uh CIA in
[00:58:14] in this in the sense that we have done
[00:58:16] undercover operations, undercover
[00:58:18] investigative. And there's a there's an
[00:58:20] overlap. There's a ven diagram between
[00:58:22] espionage and journalism, but it is not
[00:58:24] the same thing, folks. Espionage in
[00:58:26] espionage there are no rules. Anything
[00:58:29] goes. Like in love, love and war, love
[00:58:32] and espionage. No morality, no rules.
[00:58:35] And I think we're seeing a bit of that
[00:58:37] here with the Epstein uh the Department
[00:58:39] of Justice, the FBI, the CIA. No rules,
[00:58:43] no ethics uh in in most cases. Whereas
[00:58:46] investigative reporting, there are
[00:58:48] ethics. You can't uh there is a line uh
[00:58:52] there's a line in art and in morality.
[00:58:56] The line has to be drawn somewhere. Do
[00:58:58] we have Jones on yet? Alex Jones,
[00:59:01] he'll be calling in in a moment. do have
[00:59:03] we do have a we do have a man named
[00:59:05] Jordan uh Fcher who has done some
[00:59:08] investigative work with us and I'd like
[00:59:10] to hear his reaction. Jordan joins us
[00:59:12] live. Jordan, you're live. Uh I I
[00:59:15] noticed you messaged me. We we've done
[00:59:17] some work together in Arizona on the
[00:59:19] border and I wanted to get your reaction
[00:59:21] to this statement now. It's like five
[00:59:24] statements by the Department of Justice.
[00:59:27] What's your reaction, Jordan?
[00:59:31] Yeah, as something really caught my
[00:59:34] interest as I in their thing they say he
[00:59:36] fabricated stories for his personal
[00:59:39] benefit. And the line personal benefit
[00:59:41] like really was like a red flag for me
[00:59:43] because in my head I'm thinking when has
[00:59:45] like any whistleblower or informant or
[00:59:48] anyone really had personal benefit from
[00:59:51] something like this? And the answer is
[00:59:52] no. They often you know sacrifice their
[00:59:55] entire livelihood if they talk about
[00:59:57] this kind of stuff. All right. They're
[00:59:59] trying to say that
[01:00:02] >> Let me be the devil's advocate. I don't
[01:00:03] agree with them, but I want to hear your
[01:00:05] reaction. They're trying to say, well,
[01:00:06] he was trying to get laid with a girl,
[01:00:08] so that would be his personal benefit.
[01:00:13] >> I think he could have said a lot of
[01:00:14] other things in the things he said if he
[01:00:16] wanted to get laid. Uh, the level of
[01:00:18] detail he went into on the types of
[01:00:20] things he talked about are not the kind
[01:00:21] of things that would impress your
[01:00:22] average girl,
[01:00:23] >> right? um you know even though she was
[01:00:26] you know kind of proddding for it a
[01:00:28] little bit but at the end of the day
[01:00:29] there's he could inflate it himself a
[01:00:32] little bit he could have done other
[01:00:33] things he could have talked about other
[01:00:34] things but he went really in detail on
[01:00:35] this and a level that I don't think that
[01:00:38] somebody just fabricating stuff would go
[01:00:40] to um and I I think the the Department
[01:00:44] of Justice's stance that he has
[01:00:46] something to gain from at personal
[01:00:47] benefit is really more of an insight
[01:00:49] into the Department of Justice than into
[01:00:52] our informant here. Uh it's the modus
[01:00:55] operandi of the Biden regime was
[01:00:57] essentially gaslighting and projection
[01:01:00] for you know all four years of that of
[01:01:02] that campaign. It was all that that's
[01:01:04] all it was from the top down in the
[01:01:05] government. Um and to think that that
[01:01:08] would just stop because Trump's in
[01:01:09] office for several months. I don't think
[01:01:12] so. This could be a case of projection.
[01:01:15] >> I'm not they're projecting they're
[01:01:17] gaslighting us. They're projecting onto
[01:01:19] us
[01:01:20] >> what they're doing. I mean, this is this
[01:01:22] this notion of it's interesting you say
[01:01:24] this personal this is the Department of
[01:01:26] Justice official statement. Um it's
[01:01:28] unclear whether they're referring to me
[01:01:30] or him, but quote, "It is disgusting
[01:01:32] that someone would further exploit
[01:01:33] victims by sex sexual abuse by
[01:01:35] fabricating stories for their personal
[01:01:37] benefit." And this this presupposes that
[01:01:40] in this particular case, this guy stands
[01:01:43] to gain something by talking in an
[01:01:46] airport to a stranger about what he
[01:01:49] witnessed when he was in when he was
[01:01:51] interviewing Epstein victims. Now,
[01:01:53] what's interesting about that is anybody
[01:01:55] who talks to a journalist, whether it's
[01:01:58] on the record, off the record, on
[01:02:00] background, or into a hidden camera, and
[01:02:03] this is kind of what Janet Malcolm
[01:02:04] talked about in her book, The Journalist
[01:02:06] and the Murderer. You often times the
[01:02:09] reporter or the guy conducting the
[01:02:11] interview acts as a kind of confidence
[01:02:14] man. You you prey on people's vanity, on
[01:02:16] their ignorance or loneliness. You you
[01:02:20] uh gain their trust. oftentimes
[01:02:22] betraying them without remorse. This is
[01:02:24] the investig This is what we do. Um this
[01:02:27] is what a magazine guy does. Everybody
[01:02:30] who's telling a story does this. But
[01:02:32] they're trying to make the argument that
[01:02:33] because um this DOJ investigator who was
[01:02:37] in the airport recorded by our citizen
[01:02:40] journalist uh shared all this
[01:02:42] information that he stood something to
[01:02:44] gain. What's interesting to me, Jordan,
[01:02:46] is that isn't that the case in all
[01:02:49] interviews? when you go to 60 Minutes or
[01:02:52] Time magazine or NBC News or I mean I
[01:02:56] guess you stand to gain some infamy,
[01:02:58] some publicity, but it's an interesting
[01:03:00] it's an interesting point you're making.
[01:03:02] Are they gaslighting us? Is the
[01:03:04] Department of Justice gaslighting us?
[01:03:06] >> Interesting.
[01:03:08] >> It could be. It's the modus operandi.
[01:03:11] >> Well, um, any other comments, Jordan?
[01:03:16] >> That's it. Keep up the great work,
[01:03:17] James.
[01:03:18] >> Thanks, Jordan. appreciate your time.
[01:03:19] Um, yeah, so
[01:03:22] we talked a little bit about Do we have
[01:03:25] the Charlie Kirk clip? I don't know if
[01:03:26] we can put that on the air. Um, this is
[01:03:30] the one where he's uh uh talking talking
[01:03:34] about I think you guys were editing
[01:03:35] this. I'd love to show this to the
[01:03:37] audience and we'll be posting this here
[01:03:40] in the next in the next few hours and
[01:03:45] and tomorrow morning. This is Charlie
[01:03:46] Kirk's private video
[01:03:49] that his team, Mikey McCoy's chief of
[01:03:52] staff, posted
[01:03:54] shortly before he he died. Uh I I I just
[01:03:58] sent this video to you guys. This is
[01:04:00] Charlie Kirk talking about Steve Bannon,
[01:04:02] uh President Trump playing offense, and
[01:04:06] it's really profound because people
[01:04:08] don't go on offense because you are
[01:04:10] going to get attacked. And they set an
[01:04:13] example. And the ultimate example was
[01:04:15] the one that was set just just two weeks
[01:04:17] ago. Uh James O'Keefe plays offense and
[01:04:20] they remove him. Here we go. This is
[01:04:23] exactly what I want. Let's let's play
[01:04:24] this here. It's 40 sec. If we can go to
[01:04:26] 40 seconds into the video, a
[01:04:28] never-beforeseen conversation with
[01:04:30] Charlie Kirk. Here you go. Let's play
[01:04:32] it.
[01:04:33] >> It's not a joke. That's what these
[01:04:34] people do. Okay.
[01:04:35] >> Well, I look, you're right. And I pray
[01:04:37] for me every day and pray and and you
[01:04:39] should because there's only a few of us
[01:04:40] that actually play offense. James
[01:04:42] O'Keefe plays
[01:04:43] >> offense. But what happened?
[01:04:46] >> They removed him from his organization.
[01:04:47] He's under criminal investigation by the
[01:04:48] FBI and the Westchester DA. Steve Bannon
[01:04:50] plays offense. He's going to go to
[01:04:52] federal prison this month.
[01:04:54] >> Tucker Carlson plays offense. They took
[01:04:56] him off air.
[01:04:57] >> Any player that plays Donald Trump plays
[01:04:59] offense.
[01:04:59] >> He's facing 600 years in federal prison.
[01:05:01] That's why we don't play offense. How
[01:05:03] about this? We have 18
[01:05:05] >> That's why we don't play offense. That I
[01:05:08] I I really This is like right before
[01:05:10] Trump was elected. I really think
[01:05:11] Charlie
[01:05:12] and and that's why, you know, I I knew
[01:05:15] him in a very specific way and he
[01:05:18] coached me through this thing that
[01:05:21] happened with me in Project Veritas. He
[01:05:23] was he was very helpful to me because I
[01:05:25] think he saw these warriors on the front
[01:05:28] lines get get slain and taken down. And
[01:05:31] I think that we we both had a kind of
[01:05:32] kinship over that over that uh thing
[01:05:35] that was occurring. And you have a
[01:05:37] situation here where our Department of
[01:05:39] Justice is
[01:05:41] um pushing back in a major way against
[01:05:43] me. And this is developing story. We
[01:05:45] have Alex Jones. Alex Jones is on the
[01:05:47] line. Alex, are you there?
[01:05:51] >> James, it was great having you on my
[01:05:53] show today. Great to be here with you.
[01:05:54] Yeah, the the the DOJ we just called
[01:05:56] balls and strikes is really
[01:05:58] disappointing. You know, they tried to
[01:06:00] block Ed Martin and the Virginia uh
[01:06:03] operations to indict Comey, Latisa
[01:06:05] James. They had to replace that US
[01:06:06] attorney. They had to resign last week.
[01:06:09] And then they're they're basically, you
[01:06:11] know, attacking you. Uh Ed and Martin
[01:06:13] was starting an investigation. The DOJ
[01:06:15] running operations against Info Wars.
[01:06:17] They ordered that investigation killed.
[01:06:19] But this is good. This is this is just
[01:06:21] bringing them all out in the open. Uh
[01:06:23] and so, you know, unlike the Democrats
[01:06:24] where it's a closed shop of corruption,
[01:06:26] I'm actually heartened at the fact we
[01:06:28] got a lot of whistleblowers, people
[01:06:29] inside the Trumpville, uh who are trying
[01:06:31] to keep it honest. So, you know, at the
[01:06:32] end of the day, I'm still very proud of
[01:06:33] the Trump administration. But, uh, we're
[01:06:35] not a Democrat cult. We've got to we've
[01:06:37] got to expose the corruption and root it
[01:06:39] out or we or we become accompllices
[01:06:40] after the fact.
[01:06:41] >> What? Before we go further, I I know you
[01:06:43] talked about this on your show, but my
[01:06:44] viewers are looking at a picture of you
[01:06:45] with what appears to be a mustache
[01:06:48] that looks like Hitler. Can we just talk
[01:06:51] about that for a minute? Uh, I know you
[01:06:55] I don't know, your cat cut your face or
[01:06:57] something like that. Um, I don't know
[01:07:00] what it was, but can you just address
[01:07:02] your mustache?
[01:07:06] >> Yeah. The way this happened today at
[01:07:08] about 5:30 in the morning, my wife had
[01:07:10] said my beard was getting too long. It
[01:07:11] was sticky and she wanted me to put some
[01:07:14] conditioner on it and trim it. Uh, and
[01:07:16] so I have a my daughter has a rag doll
[01:07:19] cat and loves me. And I'm sitting there
[01:07:21] with a shaver trying to expertly shave
[01:07:24] and the cat literally jumps up on the
[01:07:26] bathroom counter, hits my arm and it
[01:07:28] cuts all the way down, you know, and a
[01:07:31] big gouge out of it. So I go, "Oh my
[01:07:32] god, I'm going to cut my beard off now.
[01:07:34] It's all messed up." And so then I had a
[01:07:37] mustache and my buddy came over. We
[01:07:38] usually work out, but we were going to
[01:07:39] hike in the nearby hills that are there.
[01:07:42] And he goes, "Dude, you look like a pedo
[01:07:44] with this mustache." And then he goes
[01:07:46] and he said, "Here, let me call my
[01:07:48] girlfriend." She goes, "Yeah, it looks
[01:07:49] terrible. get rid of the mustache. He
[01:07:50] goes, "Wait a minute. Do Hitler, make a
[01:07:53] joke about it, you know, like Charlie
[01:07:54] Chaplain or come out, you know, he knows
[01:07:56] I don't like Hitler." So, I came out
[01:07:58] today as the as the good Hitler telling
[01:08:00] Nazis not to support Hitler. But then I
[01:08:03] realized once you came on as my one
[01:08:04] guest today that it was going to be a
[01:08:06] total distraction from the huge
[01:08:08] bombshell info. So, I literally uh
[01:08:12] >> had my assistant running by a shaver and
[01:08:14] and cut it off. Yeah. Yeah. Cut it off.
[01:08:16] >> Yeah. I I just I couldn't stop laughing.
[01:08:20] I got on your show and I was like looked
[01:08:21] up and I was like I literally could not
[01:08:23] stop ridiculous thing I've ever seen.
[01:08:25] But by by the way before we go one one
[01:08:27] more question about the the Jeff Epstein
[01:08:29] um the latest DOJ investigator. Are you
[01:08:32] aware that like you're a heartthrob for
[01:08:34] for the Instagram like videos of you
[01:08:36] from like 1996 like young Alex Jones
[01:08:39] like girls are that going crazy for your
[01:08:42] young version of yourself? That's what
[01:08:44] I' I see that on the on the Instagram
[01:08:46] all the time. People are constantly
[01:08:49] talking about that. Now you got the
[01:08:51] Hitler mustache. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:08:56] >> Yeah. Absolutely. Well, I did kind of
[01:08:57] look like uh who's the guy in the latest
[01:08:59] Blade Runner, whatever his name is. Ryan
[01:09:02] Gosling.
[01:09:02] >> Ryan Gosling.
[01:09:03] >> So, I guess yeah, I I I I well, let's
[01:09:06] just say I'm not as handsome in my older
[01:09:08] age like you are, but I was definitely
[01:09:10] like a Calvin Klein model till I was
[01:09:11] about 30. And so yeah, I I I am I am
[01:09:14] aware of my uh previous incarnation
[01:09:17] before I became uh fat Hitler.
[01:09:19] >> Fat. So okay, back back to the what
[01:09:21] really matters. So Alex, I have one one
[01:09:25] question for you before I let you go.
[01:09:27] What why do you think from your
[01:09:29] perspective, Alex Jones's perspective,
[01:09:31] that the leadership of the government
[01:09:33] agencies here, DOJ, FBI, are not being
[01:09:37] transparent like the rank and file are.
[01:09:39] these this is like the third guy that
[01:09:41] I've exposed here in the last few weeks
[01:09:42] who just spilling the beans. Why can't
[01:09:45] the leaders just be forthcoming about
[01:09:47] what the people in the mid-level
[01:09:49] management? What is your take on that?
[01:09:54] >> Well, again, as I said earlier, it's
[01:09:56] very heartening that we have all these
[01:09:58] leaks and that people are pushing back
[01:10:00] at low and mid level. You know, um I
[01:10:04] don't think at the end of the day it's
[01:10:05] Trump. We haven't seen evidence of that.
[01:10:06] But I think he's having to draw from a
[01:10:08] political pool of people that really
[01:10:11] aren't globalists, but they still don't
[01:10:12] want to fight. And from everything I've
[01:10:14] gotten in DOJ, you know, Pam Bondi needs
[01:10:17] to go. She's super weak. Uh, and she
[01:10:20] really is the problem. You know, Cash is
[01:10:21] a perfect, but more and more of the
[01:10:22] sources I have, it's Pam Bondi. It's the
[01:10:24] deputy AG. They are blocking everything
[01:10:28] real and just behaving like Trump is a
[01:10:30] speed hump. That's why Trump chewed out
[01:10:32] Pam Bondi last week with that true
[01:10:33] social post. It was not a mistake from
[01:10:34] my sources. say, "We have all the total
[01:10:37] proof. We have a mandate. We're not
[01:10:40] being vengeful. The Democrats have been
[01:10:42] at war with us with lawfare. We have a
[01:10:44] responsibility to do this." And the fact
[01:10:47] that, you know, you're huge
[01:10:48] whistleblower or the guy who caught on
[01:10:50] tape, you know, he is on record as as a
[01:10:53] high level doing all this. Plus, from
[01:10:54] all the other sources, we know what he
[01:10:56] said is true. It's just confirmation on
[01:10:58] top of confirmation on top of
[01:11:00] confirmation on top of confirmation on
[01:11:01] top of confirmation. And so the fact
[01:11:03] that they would come out and say, "Oh,
[01:11:05] how dare O'Keefe blah blah blah." That
[01:11:08] indictes them and they should know that
[01:11:10] you have nothing but credibility with
[01:11:12] the public compared to them. I have
[01:11:14] nothing but credibility compared to
[01:11:15] them. So it's more Striand effect.
[01:11:17] Really stupid moves by them. So I would
[01:11:20] ask you, James, why do you think they're
[01:11:22] engaging in the Stysand effect of
[01:11:23] Stysand effects? It just makes no sense.
[01:11:25] Uh it's it's it's um that the the
[01:11:29] reaction to suppress the story and even
[01:11:31] to intimidate me is extremely telling
[01:11:35] and I think it means that we're over the
[01:11:37] target and we're exposing some
[01:11:38] uncomfortable truths. So I I think that
[01:11:41] they're doing it because it's you get
[01:11:43] flak when you're over the subject. You
[01:11:45] get flack when you're close to the
[01:11:46] truth. That's the only rational
[01:11:48] explanation for the reactions I'm
[01:11:50] getting. I just I'm disappointed because
[01:11:52] I think the people here ran on
[01:11:53] transparency and that's what people
[01:11:55] expect. They don't expect gaslighting.
[01:11:57] >> No, I mean I totally agree and and and
[01:11:58] and it's disappointing. So I don't want
[01:12:00] to be like overly supportive. I'm not
[01:12:02] being supportive. I'm just saying
[01:12:04] they're not getting away with covering
[01:12:06] up like Democrats because Republicans
[01:12:08] and populists are not in a cult now. Um
[01:12:11] at least most of us. But absolutely this
[01:12:14] is going to blow up in their face. And
[01:12:15] like I said to you today, you know, I
[01:12:18] mean, I mean, that's one of the last
[01:12:19] things that Charlie Kirk said to you,
[01:12:20] and the last things he said to me was he
[01:12:22] called me like 5 weeks ago, actually
[01:12:24] about 2 months ago, then about 5 weeks
[01:12:26] ago. And both times said, "Thanks for
[01:12:27] keeping heat on the Epstein thing. We're
[01:12:30] all really upset. TP USA, we know it's
[01:12:32] bull. We know Trump is innocent. Just as
[01:12:33] your whistleblower or just as your
[01:12:35] undercover guy, you had to admit, why
[01:12:37] are they becoming accompllices after the
[01:12:39] fact?" And and so if you and I in a in a
[01:12:42] Keith media group or Infowars doesn't go
[01:12:44] where the facts are, we become
[01:12:45] accompllices after the fact. It's not
[01:12:47] just we lose our soul. We become
[01:12:49] accompllices. So I'm not going to become
[01:12:51] accomplice to any of this. And out of
[01:12:53] all the great things Trump is doing, you
[01:12:55] know, this this Epstein thing is the
[01:12:57] real fly in the ointment. I think he's
[01:12:58] been wrapped into a trap because the CIA
[01:13:01] came to him, Ratcliffe, as I was told by
[01:13:02] Roger Stone like literally on election
[01:13:04] night or the day after Roger goes
[01:13:06] listen. And later I had to talk about on
[01:13:08] air so I didn't give up the confidence.
[01:13:09] But then was the commenters listen I've
[01:13:10] talked to high level folks Trump's not
[01:13:12] involved but the CIA and MSAD are
[01:13:15] national security it'll bring down the
[01:13:16] country they think. He said don't ever
[01:13:19] think you're getting the information.
[01:13:21] And and then later on air about four
[01:13:23] months ago he said yeah I did tell you
[01:13:25] that. So cuz Roger is not going to sell
[01:13:27] his soul either. So I I I just it's you
[01:13:31] know Trump didn't rape kids. Trump never
[01:13:33] was involved in it. the few times on the
[01:13:34] planes was wife and kids when his planes
[01:13:36] broke down, you know, from New York or
[01:13:38] New Jersey to Palm Beach. But it still
[01:13:40] doesn't matter. And so if we sit there
[01:13:42] and slow roll this or make excuses were
[01:13:44] part of it and my soul ain't for soul
[01:13:46] and neither is James O'Keefe. So, you
[01:13:48] know, really shame on the Trump
[01:13:49] administration for this. I'm not going
[01:13:50] to throw the baby out with the
[01:13:51] bathwater. I mean, I'm glad Camala is
[01:13:53] not in, but uh it's it's still going to
[01:13:55] be a major issue. The Democrats are
[01:13:56] going to have hearings now even though
[01:13:58] it's Bill Clinton watching the kids get
[01:14:00] raped according to your source and
[01:14:01] others. So he's just giving them victory
[01:14:04] for no reason. All because the CIA asked
[01:14:07] him to do this and all because he's
[01:14:08] beholden to Benjamin Netanyahu. And
[01:14:11] that's just the facts. So it's
[01:14:12] disgusting.
[01:14:12] >> Well, what I'll say to that is that if
[01:14:14] people try to put pressure on me and
[01:14:16] we'll have more on that soon, Alex, we
[01:14:18] we're just it's developing story. I
[01:14:20] don't want to I have to be careful how I
[01:14:23] how I report this. But if if people are
[01:14:26] putting pressure on us from the I'm not
[01:14:28] talking about the president. I'm talking
[01:14:30] about people uh other people, different
[01:14:32] people, and they're trying to persuade
[01:14:33] people close to me to to back off on
[01:14:36] this. And if I can be compromised, I'm
[01:14:39] speaking on by myself, and you you
[01:14:41] mentioned this. If James O'Keefe can be
[01:14:43] compromised, literally I'm I'm I'm on a
[01:14:45] show called The Price is My Life, then
[01:14:47] do we have any chance in this republic?
[01:14:50] If I can be compromised, if someone can
[01:14:52] put pressure on me and get me to back
[01:14:54] down because they're trying to threaten
[01:14:56] my funding or call my donors, if this
[01:14:59] happens to James O'Keefe,
[01:15:03] if I can say, "Okay, I'll stop. I'll
[01:15:06] stop telling the truth, then then what
[01:15:08] does that mean for what it is I do?" So,
[01:15:11] if there is any such campaign against
[01:15:13] me, I will be forced to to to expose it.
[01:15:18] We must fight against that sort of thing
[01:15:20] and we must not allow myself or the or
[01:15:23] what I represent to be compromised
[01:15:25] because if I can be compromised, it's
[01:15:27] game over for everything. Alex, that
[01:15:29] that's my response to what
[01:15:30] >> Well, I mean I mean that's it and that's
[01:15:32] why in closing that's why they don't
[01:15:34] whisper campaigns against you and me
[01:15:35] saying we're not real and attacking us
[01:15:38] through the grassroots because they're
[01:15:39] scared because they know we're
[01:15:40] independent and integrity isn't
[01:15:43] something you have, it's something you
[01:15:44] are. I can't sell out. I physically
[01:15:48] can't do it. You know, I've said to
[01:15:50] Trump, stop strianding it if you're
[01:15:51] having to cover this up. I don't agree
[01:15:53] with it, but please stop, you know,
[01:15:54] right? You know, I mean, if anything
[01:15:57] paradoxical, I've been honest. I'm like,
[01:15:58] I want you to succeed. So, for national
[01:16:00] security, you're covering it up, which I
[01:16:02] disagree with. At least then don't make
[01:16:04] it worse. So, I guess the only
[01:16:05] corruption I've been involved is I can't
[01:16:07] help but give Trump even good advice for
[01:16:09] his corruption. And and I'm not even
[01:16:11] saying it's Trump at this point, but
[01:16:12] exactly. I physically cannot climb into
[01:16:15] bed with Jeffrey Epstein because because
[01:16:17] we're doing that if we if we don't
[01:16:20] report the truth. We are climbing into
[01:16:23] onto that airplane with Bill Clinton
[01:16:25] while this is happening. And I just I I
[01:16:28] can't do it. It's impossible. And I I
[01:16:30] heard what you just said. You just
[01:16:32] warned them in the DOJ and others. And I
[01:16:35] know what goes on. I get the calls, too.
[01:16:36] You just warned them, "Don't face me
[01:16:39] down like the matador of the bull
[01:16:41] because I will then be forced to go on
[01:16:42] the war path." You're like literally
[01:16:44] telling them, "Don't force my integrity.
[01:16:46] Don't I've already done what I have to
[01:16:48] do. Don't try to don't try to
[01:16:50] >> We're definitely getting to a point a
[01:16:52] Rubicon." But Alex, thanks for your
[01:16:54] time. Thanks for calling in. I'll talk
[01:16:55] to you soon. I appreciate you.
[01:16:57] Appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank
[01:16:58] you, Alex Jones.
[01:16:59] >> Thank you, James.
[01:17:00] >> I just got this message from someone and
[01:17:02] I I just wanted to read it to all of
[01:17:04] you. James, I'm listening live. It would
[01:17:06] be great if you conveyed this. I'm a
[01:17:07] 38-year-old Republican donor. I stopped
[01:17:09] donating to the Republicans and only
[01:17:11] donated to Trump because of I believed
[01:17:13] in Trump. I am now on the verge of not
[01:17:15] donating to Trump or those he endorses
[01:17:18] if he if we don't deliver on promises,
[01:17:20] especially this one. I feel this way
[01:17:22] about Epstein and Doge and we need
[01:17:25] justice and we need accountability.
[01:17:27] There are a lot of people here sending
[01:17:28] these messages and I this is not a
[01:17:30] political thing. I don't really care
[01:17:32] about politics. This is you don't you
[01:17:34] don't put pressure on on on me. You
[01:17:36] don't you don't try to take me off of a
[01:17:39] story because you don't like facts.
[01:17:42] That's not right. That must be as
[01:17:44] American as apple pie in every nonprofit
[01:17:48] and every lobbying organization in DC.
[01:17:51] But it's not who I am. We're going to go
[01:17:53] to a little bit of a break here, a
[01:17:55] couple minutes, and I'll be right right
[01:17:57] back with you and we're going to go to a
[01:17:59] couple tipsters, people with stories to
[01:18:01] tell. That's one of the things I want to
[01:18:02] do on the show. We're going to talk to a
[01:18:04] couple people about uh Maricopa County
[01:18:08] elections. We're going to talk about
[01:18:09] filming professors and recordings inside
[01:18:12] the University of Tampa and some other
[01:18:14] ASU professors. People are going to be
[01:18:16] on the air sharing the recordings. And
[01:18:18] then finally, we're well then we're
[01:18:20] going to go to a FEMA whistleblower
[01:18:22] who's lost her job today as a result of
[01:18:24] telling the truth. And then at the very
[01:18:27] end, we're going to take a few of the
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[01:24:31] Welcome back everyone to The Price is My
[01:24:34] Life
[01:24:35] from West Palm Beach, Florida. We are
[01:24:38] talking about Jeff Epstein, the latest
[01:24:40] investigation, the responses from the
[01:24:42] DOJ. We've heard from the callers and
[01:24:43] now we're going to go to a portion of
[01:24:45] the show where we actually hear from
[01:24:47] citizen journalists with stories to tell
[01:24:50] live on the air recording people asking
[01:24:53] for advice and I believe our first
[01:24:55] person today that has a story needs some
[01:24:58] advice is Gail. Is Gail on with us right
[01:25:02] now?
[01:25:04] >> I am.
[01:25:04] >> Hey Gail. Um
[01:25:07] >> nice to hear from you. Now, we just just
[01:25:10] just to set the stage, Gail, before you
[01:25:12] get started, you know, we get, as many
[01:25:15] people do in media, we get hundreds of
[01:25:18] tips a day, thousands of tips a week. We
[01:25:21] we often focus on recordings, but Gail,
[01:25:23] you're you're um you're in Maricopa
[01:25:26] County, Arizona, correct?
[01:25:29] >> Yes.
[01:25:29] >> And you have possible evidence of
[01:25:33] election officials erasing ballots in
[01:25:35] the election.
[01:25:37] >> We do. So, why don't you
[01:25:38] >> hard evidence of
[01:25:39] >> why don't you tell me a little bit about
[01:25:42] what you have and what you seek to do
[01:25:44] and let me know how I can help you.
[01:25:48] >> Okay. Well, just having me on the air, I
[01:25:51] hope will put pressure on getting um
[01:25:54] some action. So, there there are two
[01:25:57] things that are going on. One is one is
[01:26:01] specifically to answer your question.
[01:26:03] Yes. during the Car K Carrie Lake case
[01:26:06] during the discovery process.
[01:26:09] What happened was is there was a a
[01:26:11] records request and it seems that
[01:26:14] perhaps the Maricopa County Recorders
[01:26:18] Office may have inadvertently sent the
[01:26:20] wrong hard drive and Mr. Jeff O'Donnell
[01:26:24] received this uh backup copy of the
[01:26:26] election hard drive database and it
[01:26:29] showed that over 150,000 ballot images
[01:26:34] were deleted, purged, and replaced 4
[01:26:38] days after the 2020 election. Four days
[01:26:42] we have this evidence and nothing is
[01:26:45] happening with it. It was never, of
[01:26:47] course, presented to the court because
[01:26:50] we can't get anything into court as you
[01:26:51] well know. Um, and and so we know that
[01:26:55] that is the case and it and it goes back
[01:26:57] even further because
[01:27:00] >> Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold
[01:27:02] on. Hold on. Let me interject.
[01:27:04] >> Um, uh, can you
[01:27:06] >> We only have about five or 10 minutes.
[01:27:08] So, this is going to be a lightning
[01:27:09] round for you're you're live on the air
[01:27:11] in front of many people. So, forgive me
[01:27:14] for being curt, but we're going to get
[01:27:16] right to it. So, just if you you said
[01:27:18] that someone deleted something four
[01:27:20] days. Well, who is the man that you
[01:27:21] think deleted it?
[01:27:24] >> So, we I have no proof of the person who
[01:27:27] deleted the files, but what I do know is
[01:27:30] there is a a man by the name of Brian
[01:27:33] Ramirez. He is the current database
[01:27:36] administrator in Maricopa County.
[01:27:38] >> Okay. We also have him on video
[01:27:43] um walking into the election server room
[01:27:47] unaccompanied which is against the law
[01:27:50] using his supervisor security badge
[01:27:52] because he wasn't authorized to be in
[01:27:54] there and he proceeded to delete
[01:27:57] election database prior uh excuse me
[01:28:01] election database files. And we have the
[01:28:05] accompanying documentation with
[01:28:07] timestamps that show the security badge
[01:28:10] logs, the system logs of the data.
[01:28:12] >> When did he walk in there? When did he
[01:28:14] when did he walk in there?
[01:28:17] >> That happened just prior to the Arizona
[01:28:21] audit.
[01:28:22] >> When what month and year was that?
[01:28:25] >> Um that would have been in 2021.
[01:28:29] >> Okay. So So you have a man you have a
[01:28:32] video. Have you published that video
[01:28:34] yet?
[01:28:35] >> Uh yes, that that video has been
[01:28:37] published. Um not only and I just sent
[01:28:41] another link. I put it underneath your
[01:28:43] feed on X. Um I have published that
[01:28:46] video. I have also s shown that video to
[01:28:51] our Maricopa County Sheriff Jerry
[01:28:54] Sheridan multiple times and um he has
[01:28:58] not done anything to follow up on this.
[01:29:01] I have sent this video to the Maricopa
[01:29:04] County Board of Supervisors, the current
[01:29:06] one, since the old board basically re
[01:29:10] resigned, three out of five of them. And
[01:29:12] so the new board is aware of that. And
[01:29:15] then ironically,
[01:29:17] James, as Stephen Richards, the previous
[01:29:20] board of supervisor, I mean the previous
[01:29:23] recorder,
[01:29:24] just before he left office in the lame
[01:29:27] duck period, the board of supervisors
[01:29:29] entered into an agreement, a shared
[01:29:32] service agreement that took the rights
[01:29:34] of the incumbent recorder to no longer
[01:29:39] be able to control the um election IT
[01:29:44] department. So, the current reporter
[01:29:46] couldn't fire Brian RmIrez if he wanted
[01:29:49] to.
[01:29:50] >> Well, I would say in terms of Brian
[01:29:52] Ramirez, have you have you followed have
[01:29:54] you actually tracked down where Ramirez
[01:29:57] is and spoke to him directly?
[01:30:00] >> I would say that no, I have not. Why
[01:30:02] not? I have I have tracked him down. Um
[01:30:07] and um I'm not been able to uh reach
[01:30:11] him. I'm going to have to be more
[01:30:13] persistent in that.
[01:30:14] >> Okay. So, what I would suggest you do
[01:30:17] >> and and by the way, I let me just set
[01:30:19] the stage for my audience here that I am
[01:30:22] I am I'm I like speaking in 30 second
[01:30:24] sound bites. So, I would ask that you
[01:30:26] because people have a very limited
[01:30:28] attention span and we have to identify
[01:30:30] what is important. We have to get to the
[01:30:32] bottom of things right away. So, what we
[01:30:34] need to do
[01:30:35] >> is you need to track down Ramirez. You
[01:30:38] need to get out in front of him. You
[01:30:40] need to put a microphone in his face
[01:30:42] because he's not going to talk to you
[01:30:44] probably. You need to have the video
[01:30:46] loaded up on an iPad because you said
[01:30:48] that he Could you briefly summarize
[01:30:50] again for the people just tuning in what
[01:30:52] it is that Brian Ramirez did in Maricopa
[01:30:54] County? You mentioned it a minute ago.
[01:30:57] He
[01:30:59] >> he walked into the election sum server
[01:31:01] room unaccompanied using his supervisor
[01:31:04] security badge and proceeded to delete
[01:31:07] files. And what law does that violate?
[01:31:10] You said he broke the law. What law did
[01:31:12] he break?
[01:31:13] >> He broke well, he is not allowed to
[01:31:16] number one allow be in the server room
[01:31:18] unaccompanied. He used his secure uh his
[01:31:22] supervisor security badge because he did
[01:31:24] not have a level of security to walk
[01:31:26] into that server room. So that was
[01:31:28] another law that he broke.
[01:31:29] >> Okay. What what what is the name of his
[01:31:31] supervisor?
[01:31:33] >> Her name was Christy Pasarelli at the
[01:31:36] time. She's no longer with the Maricopa
[01:31:39] County Board.
[01:31:39] >> All right. Have you spoke to Christy
[01:31:40] Petronelli?
[01:31:43] >> No. Pastor, no.
[01:31:44] >> Okay. So, what I want you to do is I
[01:31:47] want you to track down Ramirez,
[01:31:50] >> even if it means you have to sit outside
[01:31:52] his house for two days. Don't break any
[01:31:54] laws. Don't stalk people. But you're
[01:31:56] allowed to sit in a public area. You're
[01:31:58] allowed to go find him in a parking lot.
[01:32:02] I want you to have the video loaded up
[01:32:03] on your iPad. I want you to take out
[01:32:05] your iPhone or get a microphone
[01:32:09] and I want you to ask him about why he
[01:32:11] did this and is he is he aware that it's
[01:32:13] there's a law against doing this sort of
[01:32:15] thing going into a server room
[01:32:17] unaccompanied and then I want you to
[01:32:18] also track down Christy his supervisor
[01:32:21] okay
[01:32:21] >> and ask her about why this other man
[01:32:24] used her badge her access pass to we
[01:32:29] have to personalize these things we have
[01:32:32] to get them on video we have to shine a
[01:32:35] light. I There are thousands of people
[01:32:38] like you, ma'am, out there every day.
[01:32:39] Every sing every hour of the day. I get
[01:32:42] people with stories to tell and the best
[01:32:46] thing to do is sunlight. Now, I'm
[01:32:47] getting comments, it's not James' fault,
[01:32:49] but no one leads to arrest. That's not
[01:32:50] true, sir. Visseller 85. Our work
[01:32:53] actually has led to arrests.
[01:32:57] And Charlie Kirk's work didn't lead to
[01:32:59] arrests. But Charlie Kirk's work was
[01:33:02] important because it changed hearts and
[01:33:03] minds. If you can change the one world,
[01:33:06] if you can change one life, you can
[01:33:08] change the world entire.
[01:33:11] So, it's about exposure. It's about
[01:33:14] holding people's feet to the fire. So,
[01:33:17] um, in this case, Gail, that's what I
[01:33:20] would do if I were you. What do you say?
[01:33:23] >> Okay.
[01:33:23] >> Are you going to try you give it a shot?
[01:33:26] I will.
[01:33:27] >> Okay.
[01:33:28] >> You got my
[01:33:29] >> I would say once you do that and you do
[01:33:32] it well and you get this guy Ramirez and
[01:33:35] you get this lady Christy the supervisor
[01:33:38] and the guy. I haven't looked into the
[01:33:39] laws. I'm trusting what you're saying is
[01:33:41] true. I will look into the law. If it's
[01:33:43] a misdemeanor or some type of crime to
[01:33:46] do what they did, assuming what you're
[01:33:47] saying is true. Track them down. Put a
[01:33:50] camera in their face. Ask them the
[01:33:52] questions. And then I will publish your
[01:33:53] video.
[01:33:54] Okay.
[01:33:55] >> All right. This is not an easy thing to
[01:33:57] do.
[01:33:57] >> You might It might take days, it might
[01:33:59] take weeks, it might take a month,
[01:34:01] >> but
[01:34:02] >> that's what I'll do. That's what I would
[01:34:04] do. Okay.
[01:34:06] >> All right. Thank you for your advice and
[01:34:07] and um publishing this uh information.
[01:34:10] It's very important.
[01:34:11] >> I will only publish the information if
[01:34:13] you track these individuals down and
[01:34:15] attempt to talk to them on video and get
[01:34:17] their reaction. Once you do that, now
[01:34:20] you have a story. You have the
[01:34:22] individuals who are allegedly doing
[01:34:24] these things and you get their actual
[01:34:25] response. Once I see that response on
[01:34:28] video,
[01:34:30] I'll publish your story. Okay.
[01:34:32] >> Yep.
[01:34:33] >> All right. Thank you so much for your
[01:34:34] courage and for calling in. Let's go to
[01:34:36] the next tipster. We have another one.
[01:34:38] Uh Owen needs some advice on undercover
[01:34:42] work. This is Arizona State University
[01:34:44] philosophy professor who's exposed or is
[01:34:47] doing saying things that are
[01:34:48] inappropriate about Charlie Kirk's
[01:34:50] killing saying it's justified. We also
[01:34:52] have the University of Tampa story that
[01:34:54] we're working on and uh believe that
[01:34:57] individual is has more comments that was
[01:35:00] was was recorded. So is Owen on the
[01:35:02] line?
[01:35:03] >> Yeah, I'm here. Thanks for talking with
[01:35:05] me today.
[01:35:05] >> Hey Owen, how are you doing today?
[01:35:08] >> I'm great. Yeah, as you said, I'm an ASU
[01:35:10] philosophy professor and I'm also the
[01:35:12] faculty advisor for the TPS USA student
[01:35:15] club.
[01:35:15] >> Awesome.
[01:35:16] >> So, I'm I'm in touch with the Yeah, I'm
[01:35:17] in touch with the students if I have a
[01:35:19] Substack I started to report on any
[01:35:22] information that, you know, professors
[01:35:24] are using their classroom as a chance to
[01:35:26] take a shot at Charlie Kirk or TPUSA.
[01:35:30] But there's a lot of other stuff that
[01:35:31] goes on at ASU as well in terms of just
[01:35:34] promoting the uh kind of a DEI LGBTQ
[01:35:38] radical agenda. And so I I think that
[01:35:42] the more professors we have who are
[01:35:44] starting to be willing to speak up and
[01:35:46] say, "Hey, this is enough. We we need to
[01:35:48] put an end to this."
[01:35:49] >> So So what is it that you're you're
[01:35:51] seeking to expose some of the bias and
[01:35:54] abuse and misconduct of what they're
[01:35:56] saying at Arizona State?
[01:35:59] Yeah, exactly. So, for example, um ASU
[01:36:02] has a program called the humanities
[01:36:04] institute which is kind of a central hub
[01:36:06] for promoting the study of humanities
[01:36:08] which that includes philosophy and
[01:36:10] English and literature and history,
[01:36:12] religion. And so one of the main things
[01:36:15] or I shouldn't say the main thing is the
[01:36:16] top of the list for the ASU humanities
[01:36:19] institute is a program called Queer X
[01:36:22] humanities which uh it says in its
[01:36:24] information is to promote queer and
[01:36:27] trans research events at ASU. So this
[01:36:30] isn't something that's like on a list
[01:36:32] with a bunch of other things. It's not
[01:36:34] it's not a counterpart where they also
[01:36:36] have an event about you know let's say
[01:36:38] traditional marriage. This is one of
[01:36:41] their premier programs and it's
[01:36:43] presented as if ASU is supporting the
[01:36:46] trans agenda and ASU is a public
[01:36:48] university. So it's it'd be worthwhile
[01:36:50] to find out from their administrators.
[01:36:52] Are you supporting this agenda? Why is
[01:36:53] this why is this a key piece in your
[01:36:56] humanities institute?
[01:36:57] >> So this is this is the attend the queer
[01:37:00] trans research event. Is this funded by
[01:37:02] ASU?
[01:37:04] >> Yeah. Oh yeah.
[01:37:06] >> Arizona State is a public university.
[01:37:07] you know that all this funding is public
[01:37:10] information. You could do a freedom of
[01:37:11] of information state foyer request to
[01:37:14] obtain the you need to we need to figure
[01:37:18] out do you know how much money they're
[01:37:19] spending on this?
[01:37:21] >> No, I don't know. I don't know that on
[01:37:23] the front end. I do know of course this
[01:37:24] what you just said which is this is a
[01:37:26] state university so it's funded by
[01:37:28] taxes. Well, the first thing we need to
[01:37:30] do, the first thing that I I would like
[01:37:33] you to do is I would like you to do a
[01:37:36] Arizona foyer request. Usually, when I
[01:37:39] went to Ruckers in New Jersey, sometimes
[01:37:41] they just have these books literally in
[01:37:43] the president's office, but this is all
[01:37:45] public information. You could find out
[01:37:47] how much the university is spending on
[01:37:49] this. That's number one. That's the
[01:37:51] first thing you got to do. I want the
[01:37:53] cold hard facts about how much money
[01:37:56] that they're spending on this
[01:37:57] initiative. This is the queer X. By the
[01:38:00] way, what's X? What is queer X? Is that
[01:38:02] like Twitter?
[01:38:03] >> I think it's a reference to They like to
[01:38:05] put X on the end of things like Latin X.
[01:38:07] >> I've never heard that.
[01:38:08] >> So, it's a reference to like taking back
[01:38:10] their political identity.
[01:38:11] >> Queer X. Okay. Like LGBTQI X or is that
[01:38:14] separate? Queer. Okay. Something like
[01:38:16] that. Yeah.
[01:38:17] >> So, they're having a workshop um a queer
[01:38:20] archives workshop with John Deio
[01:38:24] on October 9 to explore the importance
[01:38:27] of of these activities. You know, the
[01:38:30] other thing that you could do, which is
[01:38:32] what we talked about at O'Keefe Academy
[01:38:33] the other day in um Arizona, is you
[01:38:36] could not come at it from a conservative
[01:38:39] perspective, but come at them from an a
[01:38:41] crazy outrageous like borat perspective.
[01:38:44] So, what is something that you could
[01:38:45] request of the university that is so
[01:38:47] absurd that it might shock the
[01:38:49] conscience of taxpayers? Um, and uh what
[01:38:52] you could do is um approach them with
[01:38:56] with a crazy uh request. You could
[01:38:59] approach this group, this queer group
[01:39:01] with a crazy request and you could
[01:39:03] secretly film it. So, what is even more
[01:39:06] shocking than than than queer uh X? I
[01:39:10] don't even know what that means. my
[01:39:12] someone will tell me in the comments,
[01:39:13] but what is crazier than that? Like the
[01:39:15] craziest thing you could possibly think
[01:39:17] of
[01:39:18] >> like uh someone said male tamp tampons
[01:39:21] in the men's restroom, but what's
[01:39:22] crazier than that?
[01:39:23] >> Yeah, I'm pretty sure we have that
[01:39:25] already. But yeah, I mean we could go in
[01:39:28] there and ask questions if if you know
[01:39:29] is ASU through its trans program
[01:39:31] providing transitioning uh medical
[01:39:35] workshops for underage children whose
[01:39:37] parents don't want them to do that. So,
[01:39:39] do they do does ASU provide
[01:39:40] transitioning resources for students as
[01:39:43] it stands?
[01:39:45] >> Yeah. No, I'm I would think I think they
[01:39:48] do, but I got to double check and make
[01:39:49] sure that's part of our health.
[01:39:50] >> Well, I would if they don't, that's
[01:39:52] certainly the first thing you could do
[01:39:53] is you you you demand you demand
[01:39:56] resources from the school to help with
[01:39:58] your transition, to help with your
[01:40:00] bottom surgery.
[01:40:02] >> That was when I did the undercover
[01:40:03] reporting on the Pentagon. Bottom I
[01:40:04] don't know what bottom surgery means.
[01:40:06] That means they remove the penis, add
[01:40:07] the penis. I'm not sure. I didn't know.
[01:40:10] So, I had to kind of go along with it
[01:40:12] with the bottom surgery. But you could
[01:40:13] ask for that that Okay, let's just keep
[01:40:15] escalating. So, first we find the money.
[01:40:18] First, we find how much money the queer
[01:40:19] X thing costs. Okay, great. Next, we
[01:40:22] make a demand. I want you guys to pay
[01:40:25] for my bottom surgery. If they say no,
[01:40:28] now you got them in a predicament
[01:40:29] because they have to say yes. What are
[01:40:31] they sexist? What are they? Bigoted
[01:40:33] against the trans.
[01:40:35] >> Okay, let's go a step further. What's
[01:40:37] even more crazy than the university
[01:40:39] paying for your sexual transitions? I
[01:40:42] have an idea. What was the the the
[01:40:45] shooter, the boyfriend was a furry,
[01:40:47] right? Some type of furry or
[01:40:49] >> Oh, yeah.
[01:40:49] >> Okay. So, what about demanding resources
[01:40:54] like that? Say, you know, there needs to
[01:40:56] be um a litter box
[01:40:59] in the campus bathroom for you.
[01:41:02] >> Yeah. Yeah. and and
[01:41:07] the university needs to pay for it.
[01:41:10] >> The university needs to pay for it. So,
[01:41:13] you're going to go in there. It doesn't
[01:41:14] have to be you. It could be a friend.
[01:41:18] And and and they need to pay for leashes
[01:41:21] and collars
[01:41:23] >> and litter boxes. Now, you can keep
[01:41:26] escalating the demands until which point
[01:41:29] they finally go, "That's a little bit
[01:41:32] too crazy." But you know,
[01:41:34] >> yeah,
[01:41:35] >> and I know that they're not going to say
[01:41:37] that. But I'm fascinated. So where where
[01:41:40] is the line drawn on spending taxpayer
[01:41:43] dollars? So
[01:41:44] >> that's my
[01:41:45] >> Well, I'll tell you where it's drawn.
[01:41:46] It's drawn on anything conservative.
[01:41:48] >> I was going to say I tell you where it's
[01:41:49] drawn. It's drawn on any kind of
[01:41:51] conservative program,
[01:41:53] >> right? But I don't I don't think I think
[01:41:55] it's, you know, as Alinsky once wrote,
[01:41:59] we want to make them live up to their
[01:42:00] own book of rules. They don't have to
[01:42:02] live by your principles of
[01:42:03] constitutional juristprudence, liberty,
[01:42:06] and the American way. They don't have to
[01:42:08] be Christian. This is a free country.
[01:42:10] Not everyone has to be religious. Not
[01:42:11] everyone has to be moral or believe in
[01:42:13] God. But what they do have to do is they
[01:42:16] got to live by their own book of rules.
[01:42:19] So if they want to have queer
[01:42:21] exhumanities initiatives and workshops,
[01:42:24] and by the way, I'm not against people
[01:42:27] being this way or having their sexual
[01:42:29] proclivities. That's not what I'm
[01:42:30] talking about. I don't even take a
[01:42:31] position on this, but if they want to
[01:42:33] have these things and they want taxpayer
[01:42:35] funding for these things, then you
[01:42:36] should go in and ask for them to fund
[01:42:38] your your litter box and your collars.
[01:42:41] In fact, you actually should have a
[01:42:44] collar, a proposed collar that you want
[01:42:47] them to pay for.
[01:42:48] >> So, you need to go in there, and the
[01:42:50] hardest part about this is keeping a
[01:42:52] straight face. You're going to have to
[01:42:53] go in there in this this October 9th
[01:42:56] workshop. You're going to have to go
[01:42:57] into the dean's office. Arizona is a one
[01:42:59] party consent state, so it's not illegal
[01:43:02] to record.
[01:43:04] And if you think this is nuts and if you
[01:43:06] think this is impossible, this is what I
[01:43:08] did when I started. I banned Lucky
[01:43:09] Charms because it's racist against the
[01:43:11] Irish
[01:43:12] >> and and they took me very seriously. So,
[01:43:15] what do you say? Um, how about getting
[01:43:18] the financial information on the school
[01:43:20] >> and going in there and making some
[01:43:22] demands. What do you say?
[01:43:24] >> Yeah, I think that's those are two
[01:43:26] important steps that we'll do. We'll see
[01:43:27] where the line is at for ASU paying for
[01:43:30] some of these things. If they're they've
[01:43:32] already done some things with ASU's
[01:43:33] bathrooms where they've taken out uh or
[01:43:36] they I think they put in urinals in the
[01:43:38] female bathroom,
[01:43:40] but let's see if they'll put in litter
[01:43:41] boxes.
[01:43:45] >> Yeah. I mean, I don't know why they
[01:43:46] wouldn't. I mean, you you you study all
[01:43:49] the talking points on why this is
[01:43:53] something that is allowed and
[01:43:54] appropriate. And then I want you to
[01:43:56] download Arizona State University's
[01:43:58] rules and regulations about
[01:43:59] discrimination. I want them to have you
[01:44:01] in front of you. You can use chat GBT to
[01:44:03] pull these up. What does Arizona State
[01:44:06] University say
[01:44:08] >> about the requirements and regulations
[01:44:10] on non-discrimination to specialized
[01:44:12] groups? Have that in front of you. Yeah.
[01:44:14] >> Because if they say no to funding your
[01:44:17] litter box,
[01:44:19] >> you're going to read their language back
[01:44:20] to them and you've got them right where
[01:44:23] you want them. That's the video that
[01:44:24] you're going to do. And when you do that
[01:44:26] video and when you report the financial
[01:44:28] information, I will publish your video.
[01:44:31] How does that sound?
[01:44:32] >> All right, I'll get on it and I'll I'll
[01:44:34] be back in touch.
[01:44:34] >> And thank you for your courage and for
[01:44:36] your time today. And good luck. And my
[01:44:38] team will help you where we can. But my
[01:44:40] team will help you everyone. But
[01:44:41] remember too, and this is not just with
[01:44:44] with Owen and with Gail, but we need you
[01:44:46] to do guys do the most difficult thing,
[01:44:49] which is as Charlie Kirk once said, be
[01:44:52] willing to say yes. Take that step. Take
[01:44:55] that brave step. Okay. Um, do we have
[01:44:57] any other callers, guys? Are we moving
[01:44:59] on to the next?
[01:45:01] Okay, we're going to take a brief
[01:45:03] threeminut break and then we bring on
[01:45:05] Kelsey, the brave FEMA whistleblower who
[01:45:07] was fired today for being brave. We
[01:45:10] don't know why the Trump administration
[01:45:12] fired her for exposing DEI. This is
[01:45:15] nuts. I am not surprised or
[01:45:18] disillusioned because I went through
[01:45:19] that
[01:45:21] modality of being a year or two ago in
[01:45:24] my life. Nothing shocks me or surprises
[01:45:26] me. We're well beyond the point of
[01:45:28] partisan politics in this country. But
[01:45:29] we're going to hear from Kelsey, from
[01:45:32] FEMA, who's been fired. and team, if you
[01:45:35] could please load up the the clip that
[01:45:37] Kelsey people want to know what exactly
[01:45:38] she exposed in that story, we'd love to
[01:45:41] have that and then we'll hear from
[01:45:43] Kelsey. So, we'll just take a brief 3 to
[01:45:45] 4 minute break and I'll be back with you
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[01:50:59] we're going to be joining with Kelsey
[01:51:02] from FEMA who has been fired today.
[01:51:07] Kelsey uh exposed some DEI initiatives
[01:51:10] in FEMA and informed my team that she
[01:51:14] has been terminated. She blew the
[01:51:15] whistle back in October with this video,
[01:51:18] hazard mitigation emergency manager for
[01:51:20] FEMA's region 4. And we and she blew the
[01:51:23] whistle bravely. And if we can just play
[01:51:25] this clip, team to remind our audience
[01:51:27] what Kelsey exposed back in uh October,
[01:51:32] November of 2024.
[01:51:37] My name is Kelsey Goodman. I'm here to
[01:51:39] blow the whistle on FEMA.
[01:51:42] There are still people that are missing.
[01:51:44] Rivers that were existing before have
[01:51:46] now turned into lakes. There are still
[01:51:48] communities without power, without
[01:51:51] water, without access to cell phones or
[01:51:54] internet. You can go on the FEMA
[01:51:56] website. The number one goal of FEMA is
[01:51:59] to instill equity in emergency
[01:52:01] management. It's not to save lives. It's
[01:52:04] not to create stronger communities that
[01:52:06] will weather future disasters. It's to
[01:52:08] instill equity.
[01:52:10] >> It almost feels like I'm being asked to
[01:52:12] give my opinion on equity to the state.
[01:52:15] And I am not comfortable at all doing
[01:52:17] that.
[01:52:18] >> Right now, we ask that you do it. You
[01:52:20] tell us how you did it. And um the
[01:52:23] guidance is the guidance until you get
[01:52:25] further instructions.
[01:52:27] >> All right. So this this DEI
[01:52:30] >> stuff inside of FEMA,
[01:52:32] >> they're not able to get resources to
[01:52:34] people who need it, but they're talking
[01:52:36] about DEI.
[01:52:38] >> Kelsey Goodman, very brave and uh we
[01:52:43] have a situation where it's beyond
[01:52:45] comprehension with the current
[01:52:47] administration, which is all about
[01:52:48] transparency. This is why they were
[01:52:50] elected. We talk about Epstein. We talk
[01:52:53] about the DOJ official. They failed to
[01:52:55] support Kelsey. I will be following up
[01:52:57] with the administration to try to get
[01:52:59] that. But I'm not a member of Congress,
[01:53:02] nor am I an elected official. I'm I'm an
[01:53:04] outside journalist, so my powers are
[01:53:06] limited. But this is a stark reminder
[01:53:08] that we the people, not the government,
[01:53:10] no matter who's in power, are in
[01:53:12] control. Kelsey gets fired for being
[01:53:15] brave and exposing FEMA. And Kelsey is
[01:53:18] extremely brave. Her light shines
[01:53:20] through. Kelsey's response to my
[01:53:23] colleague yesterday when we expressed
[01:53:26] how sorry we were was suffering produces
[01:53:30] perseverance which produces hope. All
[01:53:33] will be well. And Kelsey from FEMA joins
[01:53:37] us live on the air. Kelsey, are you
[01:53:40] there?
[01:53:42] >> Hey James, I'm here.
[01:53:45] >> So tell us what you can about what
[01:53:48] happened and your termination.
[01:53:53] I was notified yesterday that I am
[01:53:56] officially terminated um that my actions
[01:54:00] were detrimental to FEMA and cannot be
[01:54:03] tolerated. This all came about
[01:54:07] pretty immediately after President Trump
[01:54:09] got rid of the building resilient
[01:54:12] infrastructure and communities grant
[01:54:13] program that you and I discussed which
[01:54:16] was based on disaster funding received
[01:54:20] for um
[01:54:23] racial makeup quota things like that.
[01:54:29] So,
[01:54:29] >> so the investigation my conduct started
[01:54:32] almost immediately after President Trump
[01:54:34] decided he was going to get rid of that
[01:54:35] program.
[01:54:36] >> And President Trump decided to get rid
[01:54:38] of this this uh program and this led to
[01:54:42] your termination.
[01:54:46] >> Yes. Um they investigated,
[01:54:51] they
[01:54:53] spoke with me. Um, I showed them e
[01:54:57] everything you and I discussed was all
[01:54:58] public facing information and
[01:55:02] they they believed that my conduct was
[01:55:04] unbecoming and was detrimental to the
[01:55:07] agency itself. So, they decided to let
[01:55:09] me go.
[01:55:10] >> What what about your conduct did they
[01:55:11] think was unbecoming?
[01:55:15] >> Uh, releasing information outside of the
[01:55:18] agency. One example was a screenshot of
[01:55:22] the the front of the FEMA public facing
[01:55:25] website which showed that instilling
[01:55:28] equity and emergency management was our
[01:55:30] number one priority. That was one
[01:55:31] example they
[01:55:32] >> but that's a public website.
[01:55:35] >> Yes, that's correct.
[01:55:37] >> So they're they're saying that you
[01:55:40] providing a public website was
[01:55:42] unbecoming
[01:55:45] >> any information at all. Interesting. Um,
[01:55:49] did you receive a letter or a
[01:55:50] correspondence from the government with
[01:55:52] your termination?
[01:55:53] >> I I did. Yeah.
[01:55:56] >> Uh, and it's okay if the answer is no,
[01:55:58] but are are you be willing sharing that
[01:56:00] with with us and having us publish it?
[01:56:06] >> Yes, that will be fine. Um, Kelsey, one
[01:56:09] of the things I want to do here because
[01:56:10] I'm live in front of a lot of people is
[01:56:12] is you no longer have a job and I can
[01:56:17] vouch for your integrity and your
[01:56:19] courage and I think the world needs more
[01:56:21] brave people like you and we will be
[01:56:22] honoring you at our event in Mara Lago
[01:56:24] so long as Mara Lago doesn't cancel our
[01:56:26] event. I mean, I I hope that doesn't
[01:56:28] happen. I don't even want to say that,
[01:56:30] but I have no idea at this point. But
[01:56:32] what what is it that you want to do in
[01:56:34] your life? What do you seek to do? Uh,
[01:56:37] for people listening who may have
[01:56:39] companies that want to hire you, what
[01:56:41] type of employment are you seeking, what
[01:56:44] did you do at FEMA? What do you enjoy
[01:56:45] doing?
[01:56:50] >> Um, well, I've I've really done
[01:56:52] emergency management. That was that was
[01:56:55] what I've done the last 10 12 years.
[01:56:58] Prior to that, I worked for Governor
[01:57:00] Nathan Beal's office. Um, he was the
[01:57:02] governor of Georgia. I worked for him
[01:57:04] right out of college. Honestly, I I have
[01:57:07] a passion for just making my country
[01:57:11] better. I don't know specifically how
[01:57:13] the Lord wants me to do that now. I do
[01:57:15] feel like he is putting me on a
[01:57:18] different path. For what reason, I don't
[01:57:21] know. But I I love this country so much.
[01:57:24] We have spent the last few years going
[01:57:26] down a really dangerous path. And
[01:57:30] because of of nothing other than a
[01:57:32] blessing from the Lord, he has really
[01:57:35] turned us around. And you can see that.
[01:57:38] And I I just want the ability to be able
[01:57:41] to help make this country a better
[01:57:43] place, a safer place, a more prosperous
[01:57:46] place, a more godly place. And in any
[01:57:48] way I can do that, I would be considered
[01:57:52] blessed. How did how did your faith uh
[01:57:56] influence your decision to expose this
[01:57:59] DEI stuff at FEMA? I I recall when I
[01:58:02] interviewed you interviewed you in the
[01:58:04] fall that you talked a lot about that
[01:58:10] DEI is nothing short of evil. I know we
[01:58:13] try and water it down. It's it's evil.
[01:58:17] You know, Jeremiah 17 says, "I the Lord
[01:58:19] examine the heart and search the mind to
[01:58:21] determine what what reward goes to each
[01:58:24] person based on his heart and based on
[01:58:26] his conduct." That is the only type of
[01:58:28] equity that will work. Equity from the
[01:58:30] government, from a private organization.
[01:58:32] It will never work. It will deteriorate
[01:58:35] the fabric of our society. It will break
[01:58:38] down communities. It will hinder
[01:58:41] relationships between races, between
[01:58:44] genders. It is just horrible at its core
[01:58:47] and we have to get rid of it and we have
[01:58:49] to call it for what it is.
[01:58:52] >> Um, kind of going back to finding people
[01:58:56] who are interested in hiring you, I'm
[01:58:58] calling on everyone watching this
[01:58:59] program, if I can vouch for Kelsey's
[01:59:03] character, her integrity, her faith. Uh,
[01:59:08] she's an extraordinary human being. And
[01:59:10] if you are interested in possibly
[01:59:13] talking to Kelsey about the work that
[01:59:15] she might be doing, her expertise is in
[01:59:17] emergency management. Kelsey, are there
[01:59:19] any other qualities you have for a
[01:59:21] potential employer who might be watching
[01:59:24] that you want to talk about work that
[01:59:26] you could do?
[01:59:31] >> In all humility, I'm the hardest worker
[01:59:34] you'll find. I If I'm not qualified to
[01:59:36] do it yet, I will become qualified. I'm
[01:59:39] organized. I'm hardworking. I'm honest.
[01:59:42] I am willing to do whatever um I there's
[01:59:46] nothing that I'm too good to do. So,
[01:59:48] whatever I'm being offered, I will look
[01:59:50] at and pray over and just be very
[01:59:52] grateful for.
[01:59:54] >> FEMA fires employee who told workers to
[01:59:57] avoid homes with Trump signs after
[01:59:58] hurricane. Yeah, this is this is a
[02:00:00] developing story of FEMA firing Kelsey
[02:00:03] Goodman, the whistleblower that came to
[02:00:06] me here at OMG.
[02:00:08] uh just right before the election last
[02:00:10] year. Kelsey, I'll talk to you offline.
[02:00:12] I'll see you in Florida on November 13th
[02:00:15] and we'll be here for you. I will help
[02:00:17] you in every way that I can. I have in
[02:00:18] fact reached out to FEMA top officials.
[02:00:21] I will do so again. Um and uh as you can
[02:00:24] see, I'm kind of being being criticized
[02:00:27] by the current Department of Justice.
[02:00:29] I'm a thorn in their side, Kelsey. So,
[02:00:31] that's the that's the that's the price
[02:00:34] of being a truth teller, and that's the
[02:00:36] price that we pay. But we're in this
[02:00:37] together. And God bless you, Kelsey. And
[02:00:40] I'll be calling you tonight. And thank
[02:00:42] you for for being brave and calling into
[02:00:43] the show here. Thank you, Kelsey.
[02:00:46] >> Thanks, James. God bless.
[02:00:47] >> God bless. It's, you know, it's really
[02:00:49] tough, everyone
[02:00:51] telling the truth. And there's no
[02:00:54] there's no money in this. There's no
[02:00:56] there's no fame in this. There's no
[02:00:58] there's no glory in the way that you
[02:01:00] think. Uh there's glory in different
[02:01:03] ways, but not in the way that you think.
[02:01:05] And that's how we're all going to be
[02:01:06] tested. I go back to my statement
[02:01:08] earlier earlier today
[02:01:11] um where where there's pressure being
[02:01:15] apparently there's pressure being put on
[02:01:17] me in certain ways right now over the
[02:01:19] over the last 24 hours pressure in in
[02:01:22] financial pressure for example and if I
[02:01:25] succumb to that pressure if I say okay
[02:01:28] fine I'll do whatever it takes you know
[02:01:31] my price is this donor or whatever the
[02:01:33] case may be then what am I I'm a
[02:01:35] hypocrite and I can't be a hypocrite.
[02:01:37] And what does it mean for our country
[02:01:39] when literally the guy or the brand that
[02:01:42] stands for not being bought is being
[02:01:45] pressured? And that's my message to the
[02:01:47] people that might think about pressuring
[02:01:50] me. And and you know who you are. And I
[02:01:53] and I'm and I'm and I'm I'm not even
[02:01:54] emotional about it anymore. I'm not
[02:01:56] surprised by it. Maybe a touch of anger
[02:01:59] here, but
[02:02:02] I've I've I've seen this seen this
[02:02:05] musical before. Okay. Um, we are going
[02:02:08] to go to my favorite part of the show.
[02:02:11] Again, this is my Prices My Life. For
[02:02:13] those of you tuning in, um, we are going
[02:02:16] to go to the subscribers, people who are
[02:02:19] paid subscribers to OMG, who help
[02:02:22] support us, help support our work. And
[02:02:25] producer, do we have the first one on
[02:02:26] the line?
[02:02:31] Okay, it's 5 minutes after 5:00. We're
[02:02:34] going to do this for about 10 minutes.
[02:02:35] That gives each subscriber about 2 to 3
[02:02:38] minutes. Go ahead, answer. Ask me
[02:02:40] whatever you'd like and I'll answer
[02:02:42] truthfully.
[02:02:46] Hey, James. Uh, it's such an honor to
[02:02:49] meet you. Finally. Uh, I'm a recent
[02:02:51] graduate of your master class on
[02:02:54] investigative journalism. And uh as a
[02:02:57] combat veteran, I really hold uh
[02:02:59] investigative journalists like you and
[02:03:02] like Andy know in high regard because uh
[02:03:06] you guys really put yourselves in harm's
[02:03:08] way for the good of the nation uh
[02:03:10] without weapons, I'll say. And simply
[02:03:13] because the truth matters and um and
[02:03:17] also I can confirm everything that Jack
[02:03:20] Pobic said earlier on the show. So, I
[02:03:23] just wanted to mention that. Um, but,
[02:03:27] uh, what I wanted to talk about real
[02:03:28] quick was, um, you know, um, now that
[02:03:32] I'm retired from active duty, um, I've
[02:03:35] started a private investigator company.
[02:03:37] Uh, we're a veteranowned company out of
[02:03:40] Greenville, South Carolina called
[02:03:42] Southeast Research and Investigative
[02:03:44] Services.
[02:03:46] And you know, so I'm do I'm still busy
[02:03:49] doing uh what I do best, catching people
[02:03:51] doing things that they really shouldn't
[02:03:53] be doing. And I think private
[02:03:56] investigators everywhere should really
[02:03:59] join forces with the investigative
[02:04:01] journalists like yourself and together
[02:04:05] we could really put a dent in the
[02:04:07] corruption in the United States.
[02:04:10] Um, and I just wanted to get your, you
[02:04:12] know, opinion on how best we could make
[02:04:15] that happen. Uh, because like you said,
[02:04:18] um, there's some overlap between what
[02:04:20] PIs do and what undercover journalists
[02:04:23] do. And, um, you know, I I'm right there
[02:04:26] with you. My price is my life. So when I
[02:04:28] see someone committing fraud or you know
[02:04:32] abusing a child or you know doing other
[02:04:35] things that are illegal um I I feel duty
[02:04:38] bound to expose it. So I just wanted to
[02:04:41] get your take on that. Well, I think
[02:04:43] that I think it's
[02:04:43] >> see how we the 15
[02:04:45] >> My take is is it's a great idea and
[02:04:47] private investigators doing journalism,
[02:04:49] but the difference between a private
[02:04:50] investigator and a journalist is the
[02:04:52] journalist does it in the public
[02:04:54] interest and the PI does it on behalf of
[02:04:57] a client. So, kind of to go back to you,
[02:05:02] how do we do it? Because I think that
[02:05:04] there's no money in investigative
[02:05:06] journalism. I mean, not really. the the
[02:05:09] price the cost of it goes up the more
[02:05:11] time you spend on it on behalf of the
[02:05:14] public interest. If the public if the
[02:05:16] story when you're pursuing a story here,
[02:05:18] we don't really choose the stories. The
[02:05:20] stories choose us. But in the PI world,
[02:05:24] the client comes to you and tells you
[02:05:26] what they want. So I just want maybe
[02:05:28] what's your reaction to what I just
[02:05:29] said? Because that's my reaction to what
[02:05:31] you said. Now I want to hear your
[02:05:32] feedback on what I'm saying to you.
[02:05:36] >> Well, yeah. No, I I totally understand
[02:05:38] and and and we do um work for either
[02:05:42] clients or the attorneys of the clients,
[02:05:46] but I mean from my perspective, yeah,
[02:05:49] yeah, there is money exchanged and you
[02:05:52] know, in order to be legal, a private
[02:05:54] investigator has to do everything via
[02:05:56] contract and you know, that way it's
[02:05:59] nothing shady going on. Um, but I just
[02:06:02] feel like, you know, there's so much
[02:06:04] fraud and corruption that we expose as
[02:06:07] private investigators. Um, there's
[02:06:10] probably
[02:06:12] some way that we could, you know, help
[02:06:15] investigative journalists or, you know,
[02:06:18] team up in some way, even if it's
[02:06:20] unofficially.
[02:06:21] Um, because, you know, I I can write and
[02:06:24] publish things just as well as any
[02:06:26] private investigator. Um, it might not
[02:06:30] be an official case, but you know, we
[02:06:33] we're, you know, we're very good at
[02:06:35] investigating things. So, you know, I'm
[02:06:38] >> I think it's a great idea. I think it's
[02:06:39] a great idea. I think it's a great idea.
[02:06:42] And um, a lot of people have left
[02:06:45] journalism because there's no money in
[02:06:47] it. They've gone into private
[02:06:48] investigations. They've gone into
[02:06:50] marketing. They've gone into Madison
[02:06:51] Avenue. They've gone into advertising.
[02:06:53] Right?
[02:06:53] >> So, it's a great idea. the solution, the
[02:06:57] problem we're going to have to solve is
[02:06:58] the economics of it. That's the
[02:07:00] challenge. That's I don't know the
[02:07:02] answer to that. I'm just I'm just
[02:07:03] presenting to you
[02:07:04] >> it how the idea is great. The execution
[02:07:07] will require who how are we going to
[02:07:08] afford it.
[02:07:09] >> Um and I'm still trying to figure that
[02:07:11] out. I think the nonprofit model is
[02:07:12] probably the right model
[02:07:14] >> uh to get a group of
[02:07:16] >> PIs to go fund,
[02:07:18] >> you know, and without fear or favor. So,
[02:07:21] thank you very much for that comment and
[02:07:23] thank you for being a subscriber to OMG.
[02:07:25] Thank you very much for your support and
[02:07:27] stay tuned for the next master class.
[02:07:28] We're uploading two, one on FOYA and one
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[02:07:35] OMG. Let's go to the next subscriber.
[02:07:38] Who's next? Producer.
[02:07:41] >> Anonymous. This is doesn't want to be
[02:07:43] named but is a subscriber. Okay, fair
[02:07:46] enough. Let's go to And by the way, the
[02:07:47] freedom of association is protected by
[02:07:49] the First Amendment. You have a right to
[02:07:50] remain anonymous. So let's hear what you
[02:07:52] have to say. Ask me anything.
[02:07:57] Well, hello there. Um, I have a
[02:08:01] question. I love listening to your uh
[02:08:06] videos. Um,
[02:08:09] my question has to do with now that the
[02:08:12] cat is out of the bag about vaccines and
[02:08:15] autism and Tylenol.
[02:08:17] With Tylenol supposedly being the source
[02:08:21] of autism, I think most people have
[02:08:23] figured out that that's just a way for
[02:08:24] the pharmaceutical companies to save
[02:08:28] face. And Trump actually said that he
[02:08:31] was going to get rid of the mercury and
[02:08:32] the aluminum, which is truly probably
[02:08:35] one of the sources of autism. Tylenol
[02:08:38] being that it depletes glutathione and
[02:08:40] doesn't allow you to eliminate the um
[02:08:42] the aluminum and the mercury. My
[02:08:45] question, James, is now that this is the
[02:08:48] cat is out of the bag with this, is
[02:08:49] there any way that you and your
[02:08:52] investigative journalists can go deep
[02:08:55] into this and find out who stopped this
[02:08:59] for so many years? Who was who was
[02:09:02] forcing people to lose their jobs? who
[02:09:06] who was behind all this big that's a big
[02:09:09] ask but
[02:09:10] >> and I happen to know some of the answers
[02:09:13] but that's why I'm anonymous
[02:09:15] >> well I I appreciate the the uh the call
[02:09:19] and uh my answer is yes anyone the
[02:09:23] question is whether I'm willing to do a
[02:09:25] story about it I'm willing to do a story
[02:09:27] about anything you just have to have
[02:09:28] actual receipts and there's a lot of
[02:09:31] people watching this hundreds of
[02:09:32] thousands of people watching this this
[02:09:34] show. So if you do have evidence, you
[02:09:38] know how to reach us. tips media.com.
[02:09:41] I'm not a scientist. I'm not a chemist.
[02:09:43] I don't even have an opinion on the
[02:09:44] matter. So there's not so much I can
[02:09:46] tell you right now, but uh big pharma is
[02:09:49] probably one of the major
[02:09:52] things that we're investigating. Also,
[02:09:54] more circumstances behind the death of
[02:09:56] Charlie Kirk and what have we. We still
[02:09:57] don't have answers on Butler,
[02:09:58] Pennsylvania. We don't even have answers
[02:10:00] on that. And unfortunately, we can't
[02:10:03] trust our FBI. By the way, we don't even
[02:10:05] have answers on why I was raided. That,
[02:10:08] you know, the the the probable cause,
[02:10:10] every word is redacted. I I'll say this
[02:10:12] every week. If we can't even get answers
[02:10:16] on why this journalist was raided by the
[02:10:19] FBI, we don't even know the probable
[02:10:21] cause. If they can't even be transparent
[02:10:22] about that,
[02:10:25] what makes you think they're going to be
[02:10:26] transparent about Tylenol or Jeff
[02:10:29] Epstein?
[02:10:30] It's a really, really crazy world. But
[02:10:34] the only solution are people to get it
[02:10:37] off their chests like Glenn Prager did.
[02:10:40] Either unbeknounced to them or benounced
[02:10:42] to them. Either way, they're going to
[02:10:44] attack the messenger, they're going to
[02:10:46] cover it up, viciously attack me. And
[02:10:49] the more they attack me and the more
[02:10:51] they they they put pressure on me, the
[02:10:54] more true my message becomes. Let me let
[02:10:57] me make that less abstract. when the FBI
[02:10:59] raided me. Now you know the diary that
[02:11:02] belonged to Ashley Biden was real. It
[02:11:04] turns out I was a better journalist than
[02:11:06] I thought I was cuz I wasn't sure if it
[02:11:09] was real. But when the FBI came and
[02:11:11] knocking, they kind of confirmed it's
[02:11:13] authenticity. It's the Stryand effect
[02:11:15] that uh Alex Jones was talking about.
[02:11:17] Okay. Thank you so much for your call
[02:11:19] and thank you for being a subscriber.
[02:11:21] Let's go to the next subscriber. Is this
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[02:11:37] Christian, are you there?
[02:11:40] >> James,
[02:11:40] >> hey Christian, you're live.
[02:11:41] >> Thank you very much for having me on.
[02:11:43] >> You're live on the price of my life.
[02:11:45] >> Go ahead.
[02:11:48] >> Excellent. It's a pleasure to speak with
[02:11:49] you again. I had the uh u pleasure of
[02:11:52] meeting you in Las Vegas and um right
[02:11:54] before that separation uh with um a
[02:11:58] Veraritoss group and so um it's
[02:12:01] absolutely a pleasure to see you
[02:12:02] continue on and I've been a subscriber I
[02:12:05] believe as soon as you announced it and
[02:12:06] so thank you very much for hosting these
[02:12:09] um rest of my life. My question is
[02:12:12] specific to uh specific to you,
[02:12:15] something that I kind of carry on and
[02:12:17] curious about personally. Um being a a
[02:12:20] patriot here in the US. Um how has your
[02:12:23] experience been the last few months uh
[02:12:27] where possibly you were being welcomed
[02:12:29] with open arms uh in in the White House?
[02:12:32] um compared to now in light of the FCN
[02:12:35] stories that thanks to you we're finding
[02:12:38] out is just a a massive massive problem.
[02:12:43] Um how has your experience been now? Are
[02:12:45] you seeing more friction? Um is is is
[02:12:49] our officials more you know more
[02:12:50] hesitant to speak with you? Um and I
[02:12:53] know you you touched on it lightly about
[02:12:56] pressure. Um, is it in regards to to
[02:12:59] these stories being published that that
[02:13:01] are super important?
[02:13:03] >> We've heard some accounts over over the
[02:13:05] last 24 hours that some phone calls have
[02:13:08] been made and we're trying to
[02:13:09] corroborate these phone calls and we're
[02:13:11] trying to ascertain what really happened
[02:13:13] before I go public with uh any any
[02:13:16] pressure or undue influence. But there
[02:13:19] does appear to be some type of campaign
[02:13:24] uh last night to uh uh
[02:13:30] let's just say a pressure campaign of
[02:13:33] some kind. I'll just put it at that. And
[02:13:36] I I I'm aware of this pressure campaign
[02:13:39] against myself personally. Now, your
[02:13:42] question is kind of more foundationally,
[02:13:44] well, I was welcomed by the White House
[02:13:46] in open arms. I mean, Trump literally
[02:13:47] hugged me at the Mara Lago. I know him.
[02:13:50] I've met his family. I generally support
[02:13:52] him. And I support the idea of
[02:13:55] transparency in government. I support
[02:13:57] the idea of equality before the law. I
[02:13:59] support a Department of Justice that is
[02:14:01] about justice. And I support
[02:14:02] accountability. Those are the things I
[02:14:04] support.
[02:14:05] Um, as far as me being welcomed by the
[02:14:09] administration, I I have I'm suing the
[02:14:12] Department of Justice because they
[02:14:14] haven't unredacted my FBI, excuse me, my
[02:14:16] warrant, my search warrant. So, uh, I'm
[02:14:19] not really I'm not an individual who's
[02:14:22] embraced or I don't have a working
[02:14:24] relationship with the people in who are
[02:14:27] governing and I'm very disillusioned.
[02:14:29] I've been so for a very long time about
[02:14:32] Washington DC. I find that people in in
[02:14:34] government are there for the wrong
[02:14:36] reasons. They're there for the pursuit
[02:14:38] of power or glory or fame. They spend
[02:14:41] most of their time on television. They
[02:14:43] supposed to spend most of their time,
[02:14:45] you know, just focusing on their image
[02:14:47] rather than doing the right thing. And
[02:14:48] then that's just the way that it is. But
[02:14:51] you saw Kelsey Goodman get fired from
[02:14:53] FEMA today. Why is she being fired from
[02:14:55] FEMA? She should be being promoted from
[02:14:58] within FEMA. She should be the FEMA
[02:14:59] director. Like I don't it it just it's
[02:15:03] it's mindboggling to me and and the part
[02:15:06] of the reason it's mindboggling to me is
[02:15:08] because I'm not a political person. I I
[02:15:11] I'm an investigative person. I'm an
[02:15:13] artistic person. I tell stories for a
[02:15:15] living. I tell the truth for a living.
[02:15:17] So I don't understand the world that
[02:15:19] lives not in uh it's not a world of of
[02:15:22] angels, but it's a world of angles where
[02:15:25] where men talk about moral principles
[02:15:27] but really act on power principles. So,
[02:15:30] I don't expect these people like me. Uh,
[02:15:34] I do respect I do expect that they they
[02:15:37] they fear me and respect me and do the
[02:15:40] right thing, not because it's the right
[02:15:42] thing to do, but because they're forced
[02:15:43] to because they might be afraid that
[02:15:45] there's a camera that's going to record
[02:15:46] their every move. So, I'm not sure the
[02:15:48] dynam dynamics there, but I'll tell you
[02:15:52] um to stay tuned because I there is more
[02:15:54] coming
[02:15:56] and uh more people like Glenn Prager
[02:16:00] are going to try to get the truth off
[02:16:02] their back.
[02:16:04] Glenn Prager texting me, quote,
[02:16:07] "Printing any story related to my
[02:16:09] opinion is misleading and/or is
[02:16:12] completely inaccurate. To make it clear,
[02:16:14] I was not involved in any way and any
[02:16:17] opinions are based on public
[02:16:19] information. They they literally say the
[02:16:22] opposite of what is true publicly. We
[02:16:25] have to bridge the gap between what
[02:16:27] people are saying publicly and and doing
[02:16:30] and doing publicly and what they're
[02:16:32] saying and doing privately. That's the
[02:16:34] legacy of Charles Kirk. That's why
[02:16:36] everyone loves him. That's why it feels
[02:16:38] like someone in your family got shot
[02:16:41] because you look at a man like that who
[02:16:43] was great but he was great because he
[02:16:45] was also good and you emulate that and
[02:16:48] he's the one who gets crucified. It's
[02:16:50] always the good ones who die young. Only
[02:16:53] the good die young. Now I know what the
[02:16:54] meaning of the Billy Joel song actually
[02:16:56] represents. By the way, took me 41 years
[02:16:59] to figure that part out. It's always the
[02:17:01] good ones that die. So, Charlie Kirk
[02:17:06] saying, "Why don't people do it? Why
[02:17:08] don't people go on offense?" When we
[02:17:10] hear on offense, he really means, "Why
[02:17:12] don't people just tell the truth?"
[02:17:15] Look what happens to them. FBI raids,
[02:17:19] Steve Bannon in prison, President Trump,
[02:17:21] what was it? 600 lawsuits or something
[02:17:23] like that. Speaking personally, I get
[02:17:26] raided by the FBI, fired from the
[02:17:28] company that I founded,
[02:17:30] defamed, sued dozens of times, and now
[02:17:34] attacked by the Justice Department.
[02:17:38] So, we got to stick together. We need
[02:17:40] you. We need you to be a whistleblower.
[02:17:43] We need you to tell the truth and do the
[02:17:46] right thing. The truth has a price, and
[02:17:49] my price is my life. Every story we
[02:17:52] expose carries an enormous amount of
[02:17:54] risk, but that's the cost of freedom.
[02:17:57] The corrupt count on silence.
[02:18:00] They count on your willingness to stand
[02:18:03] down. And we answer that with courage.
[02:18:07] We stand by our reporting. To quote Ben
[02:18:10] Bradley at the Washington Post in the
[02:18:12] 1970s when he was under attack, don't
[02:18:15] just watch history happen. Document it,
[02:18:18] share it, live it. Because when the
[02:18:20] truth is hidden,
[02:18:23] liberty dies. And if you want to
[02:18:25] subscribe to OMG and ask me any question
[02:18:28] on our next show, you can do that. Keith
[02:18:30] media.com.
[02:18:32] Become a subscriber. And um I'm
[02:18:35] reminding you again,
[02:18:38] the price is high, but the mission is
[02:18:42] worth absolutely everything. I have a
[02:18:45] clear conscience. I have a clean
[02:18:47] conscience. and I can go to bed at night
[02:18:49] knowing that I stood for what I believe
[02:18:51] in. So, I'll see you next time. Good
[02:18:54] night, everyone, and stay tuned.
[02:19:05] This morning when I woke, I couldn't
[02:19:07] stop hearing tear drops on my ceiling,
[02:19:11] falling from the eyes of the beautiful
[02:19:13] angel I had slaughtered. Hold me,
[02:19:15] ignoring what you told me. Only for a
[02:19:18] moment. Everything is fine. And the
[02:19:21] beautiful golden path unfolding anger in
[02:19:24] response to my emotion. All the trauma
[02:19:26] left unopen. Joe with all the way and
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