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[00:00:00] Well, if you voted in the last election
[00:00:01] in the hope that identity politics would
[00:00:04] go away, identity politics being the way
[00:00:06] of seeing the world through the lens of
[00:00:08] your particular group, your tribe, your
[00:00:11] identity, the qualities you were born
[00:00:12] with and the group into which you were
[00:00:14] born. If you thought that was a bad
[00:00:16] thing and you thought it would going
[00:00:18] away after 2024, well, surprise
[00:00:21] surprise, it hasn't gone away. In fact,
[00:00:24] it's accelerated.
[00:00:26] And a lot of the conversation we have
[00:00:28] about it breaks along lines of, well,
[00:00:30] you know, I'm defending my group. I'm
[00:00:32] mad at your group. Let's have a debate
[00:00:35] about whether my group is good or bad.
[00:00:38] You shut up because you're criticizing
[00:00:39] my group. Okay. But if you think about
[00:00:42] it for a second, the debate itself is a
[00:00:45] sign of well impending collapse.
[00:00:49] Because no country, especially one
[00:00:52] that's the size of a continent that has
[00:00:53] hundreds of millions of people in it,
[00:00:55] can stick together unless there is a
[00:00:58] shared identity, a supra identity,
[00:01:02] identity that looms over all other
[00:01:05] identities that holds it together. It's
[00:01:08] not the force of law that holds
[00:01:09] countries together. It's the force of
[00:01:11] custom, the force of language, and the
[00:01:14] force of shared belief. What is it to be
[00:01:17] an American? It's not just a dopey ep
[00:01:19] academic question. It really is the
[00:01:20] question that without an answer will
[00:01:22] lead to the breakup of the United States
[00:01:24] and possibly sooner than any of us
[00:01:26] expected. And there's no answer for that
[00:01:28] question right now. And so the question,
[00:01:30] the meta question is why? Why can't we
[00:01:33] decide on something as basic as what it
[00:01:36] is to be American? How did we get here?
[00:01:39] How did we get to a place where people
[00:01:41] are starting to see themselves in terms
[00:01:44] that have no reference point at all in a
[00:01:46] national identity? And you know, over
[00:01:49] time where that's going, how do we get
[00:01:51] here? That's what's worth assessing.
[00:01:55] Now, one way into that conversation is
[00:01:57] the current debate over the Somali
[00:01:59] community, people from Somalia living in
[00:02:02] the United States. And the reason it's
[00:02:04] interesting to start there is because
[00:02:05] there aren't that many of them. They
[00:02:07] tell us about 260,000
[00:02:09] in the country. Of course, it could be
[00:02:10] 10 times that because we don't really
[00:02:12] know who lives here. And millions upon
[00:02:14] millions of immigrants have fake
[00:02:16] identity documents. Flash one of those
[00:02:19] at the airport, Mr. American citizen,
[00:02:20] and you'll go right to jail as a
[00:02:22] terrorist.
[00:02:24] But illegal aliens of course get to fake
[00:02:26] all the birth certificates and social
[00:02:28] security cards and other IDs they want
[00:02:30] and they've been somehow indemnified
[00:02:32] which again is part of the problem. But
[00:02:34] anyway, there about we think 260,000
[00:02:37] Somalis in the United States and
[00:02:38] famously they are two things not very
[00:02:41] successful. The majority the
[00:02:43] overwhelming majority in fact almost all
[00:02:44] of them are on assistance of some kind
[00:02:46] welfare of some kind and poor. Over 50%
[00:02:50] of all Somali kids are in poverty. That
[00:02:52] compares to about 8% of nativeborn
[00:02:54] Americans. So this is one of the poorest
[00:02:56] groups in the United States. They're
[00:02:57] also one of the newest arrival groups.
[00:03:01] They were about maybe two, this is just
[00:03:03] a guess, but there were about 2,000
[00:03:05] Somali in the country in 1990 during the
[00:03:07] first Bush administration. None. You
[00:03:10] never met a Somali. You never knew
[00:03:11] anyone who had. You had no opinions on
[00:03:13] Somali because where's Somalia? Africa
[00:03:16] somewhere. Answer yes.
[00:03:19] But all of a sudden in the subsequent 35
[00:03:23] years there are hundreds of thousands of
[00:03:25] Somali and they are and this leads to
[00:03:26] the second thing we know about Somali.
[00:03:28] They are clustered together. They have
[00:03:31] not assimilated as we say of Somalis
[00:03:34] who've lived here at least 10 years.
[00:03:36] Most still can't speak fluent English
[00:03:39] because they don't need to because they
[00:03:40] live around other Somali and they don't
[00:03:42] have to learn it or learn critically
[00:03:45] what ties this country together beyond
[00:03:47] clan or tribe.
[00:03:49] So they're clanish and they're poor and
[00:03:53] they are also beloved by Democratic
[00:03:56] politicians.
[00:03:57] So those are the three things we know
[00:03:58] about Somali. Then recently we learned
[00:04:00] that in both Minnesota and the state of
[00:04:02] Maine, which is the two states in this
[00:04:04] country where they are concentrated
[00:04:06] outside Minneapolis and within
[00:04:08] Minneapolis and in Maine and Lewon and
[00:04:10] Portland, they have committed apparently
[00:04:13] and by they we mean literally they as a
[00:04:15] group speaking their language,
[00:04:16] communicating only with each other,
[00:04:18] massive multi-billion dollar Medicaid
[00:04:20] fraud, Medicare fraud.
[00:04:23] So we know that and that scandal is just
[00:04:24] broken and the president has weighed in
[00:04:26] on it. He's against it. We shouldn't
[00:04:28] have any Somali, he says. And Democrats,
[00:04:31] of course, have pivoted back against
[00:04:33] Trump 180°. No, Somali is what made this
[00:04:35] country great. They built this country.
[00:04:37] We wouldn't have a country without
[00:04:38] Somali. They built Minneapolis, ladies
[00:04:41] and gentlemen. We should have a Somali
[00:04:42] on the $1 bill or the digital version,
[00:04:45] the programmable digital currency we're
[00:04:47] about to give you should be Somali
[00:04:49] related.
[00:04:51] And of course, all the politicians are
[00:04:52] singing the Somali national anthem and
[00:04:54] waving Somali flags. And all of a sudden
[00:04:56] being Somali is like the essence of what
[00:04:58] it is to be an American.
[00:05:01] But neither one of them is really kind
[00:05:03] of explaining what this is. First of
[00:05:05] all, how did all these Somali get here?
[00:05:08] And two, how did it go so very very
[00:05:10] wrong? Is there something unique to
[00:05:12] Somali culture that has produced these
[00:05:15] disastrous results, probably the worst
[00:05:17] of any any immigrant group in the United
[00:05:19] States, and there are hundreds and
[00:05:20] hundreds of different immigrant groups.
[00:05:22] Somali's right at the bottom. Maybe not
[00:05:24] the bottom. Maybe there's a less
[00:05:26] successful group, but they're definitely
[00:05:29] down there in the bottom 5%.
[00:05:32] Why?
[00:05:34] Well, the argument that some are making
[00:05:35] is Somali is just a Somali is just a
[00:05:37] crappy country with a lot of dumb
[00:05:39] people, you know, average IQ 80 and
[00:05:41] there will never be a successful Somali
[00:05:42] in the United States and their religion
[00:05:44] is bad and like there's just something
[00:05:46] inherently bad about Somali.
[00:05:49] And others are arguing actually that
[00:05:50] they're model citizens. But it's
[00:05:52] possible that decisions made in this
[00:05:54] country exacerbated what might have
[00:05:56] already been a problem. And the first is
[00:05:58] how they got here. So how do we get
[00:06:00] immigrants in the country? Well,
[00:06:02] traditionally, if you're an American,
[00:06:03] you assume that people come into this
[00:06:05] country, they're allowed into this
[00:06:06] country to fill a labor void. We need, I
[00:06:09] don't know, stonemasons. Hey, there's a
[00:06:12] lot of skilled masons in Italy. Let's
[00:06:14] import them. And that's a lot of our
[00:06:15] southern Italians to this day have
[00:06:17] ancestors
[00:06:18] from below Rome whose, you know, skill
[00:06:22] was stonemasonry. So they came here and
[00:06:24] they built National Cathedral in
[00:06:26] Washington and a lot of other New York
[00:06:27] Public Library and a lot of other
[00:06:28] things. That was the model for
[00:06:30] immigration for over a hundred years. We
[00:06:32] need this. Let's find people who can do
[00:06:34] it. We don't have the right people.
[00:06:36] Let's bring them in. That's the idea
[00:06:38] behind H1B, which of course is not
[00:06:40] actually working as intended. But the
[00:06:42] Somali we're talking about had nothing
[00:06:45] to do with that. There was not one
[00:06:47] economist in the United States who
[00:06:48] looked at the numbers, took off his
[00:06:50] glasses, and said, you know, we need
[00:06:52] some Somali and we need them fast. No
[00:06:55] one ever said that because it's never
[00:06:57] been true and likely never will be true.
[00:06:58] The Somali who live in the United States
[00:07:00] came here as refugees. Refugees. So the
[00:07:03] assumption is if there's a problem in
[00:07:05] the world, the United States has a moral
[00:07:07] obligation. No one ever clarifies where
[00:07:09] this obligation comes from, but it's
[00:07:10] it's pre-existing. I think it's just in
[00:07:12] the constitution somewhere to bring that
[00:07:14] person and all of his relatives to the
[00:07:16] United States and pay for everything
[00:07:18] because that's who we are. So that's the
[00:07:21] idea.
[00:07:23] People dispute it, but it becomes
[00:07:25] mandatory the second the United States
[00:07:28] government intervenes into someone
[00:07:30] else's conflict. So the principle is
[00:07:32] called invade the world, import the
[00:07:34] world. At the tail end of every American
[00:07:37] intervention around the world, we import
[00:07:41] with the help of the state department,
[00:07:42] all kinds of NOS's, Catholic charities
[00:07:44] and highest and all these different
[00:07:47] groups. We import quote refugees from
[00:07:50] the country in whose internal affairs we
[00:07:52] are tampering and whose citizens we have
[00:07:53] killed sometimes in large numbers since
[00:07:54] we bring them over. The Montineyards,
[00:07:56] the Afghan translators. So the Somali
[00:07:59] got here because there was a Somali
[00:08:00] civil war in the early 1990s. the United
[00:08:03] States intervened in a limited way and
[00:08:06] for doing that got punished and a number
[00:08:08] of Americans died. It was famously
[00:08:10] publicized in a book and then a movie
[00:08:12] called Blackhawk Down. You may remember
[00:08:13] that in which Somalia Mugadishu its
[00:08:17] capital was described as like the most
[00:08:18] barbaric place ever in the world. And so
[00:08:21] it was out of that that arose our
[00:08:24] obligation to bring in hundreds of
[00:08:26] thousands of Somali. So again, it's not
[00:08:28] an accident. When the United States
[00:08:29] intervenes or backs an intervention
[00:08:31] somewhere in the world, you can be
[00:08:33] certain the people from that country
[00:08:34] will be living in your zip code within
[00:08:36] 10 years. And that's exactly what
[00:08:38] happened. Smelly is not a huge country,
[00:08:40] so we only have hundreds of thousands.
[00:08:41] In other cases, we got millions. And by
[00:08:43] the way, some have done fine and some
[00:08:45] have done great. The Vietnamese did
[00:08:46] well. The Catholic Vietnamese did well.
[00:08:49] But whatever, that's how they got here
[00:08:51] because of our foreign policy. So that's
[00:08:52] the first thing to know. The second
[00:08:54] thing to know is when they got here, and
[00:08:56] it's not just the Somali, it's every
[00:08:58] group that's imported as a refugee, they
[00:09:00] were given way more free stuff than any
[00:09:02] American citizen receives. Period. And
[00:09:04] that would include housing vouchers and
[00:09:06] food stamps and supplemental income, of
[00:09:09] course, free education, free use of the
[00:09:11] emergency room. By the way, if you are
[00:09:14] wondering how our health care system is
[00:09:15] doing, all the emphasis on health
[00:09:17] insurance, go to the emergency room
[00:09:19] sometime over Christmas and see what you
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[00:10:48] Someone who works here had a grandmother
[00:10:49] who wound up two nights ago in the
[00:10:50] emergency room with a broken hip and she
[00:10:52] spent two days in the hallway on a
[00:10:54] stretcher. They finally just gave her
[00:10:56] opioids to keep her from writhing
[00:10:58] because there was no room because it was
[00:11:00] so packed with refugees and other
[00:11:04] migrants, migrants, economic migrants.
[00:11:06] So basically our healthare system, our
[00:11:07] healthare system, our hospitals, the the
[00:11:10] place where you go when you're sick,
[00:11:12] totally destroyed by this last wave of
[00:11:15] immigration.
[00:11:16] But if you're coming from Mogadishu,
[00:11:18] this is a massive upgrade. You may wait
[00:11:21] 2 days on a stretcher in the hallway,
[00:11:22] but at least you're getting medicine.
[00:11:25] So they come here and the assumption is
[00:11:28] that they will somehow benefit the
[00:11:30] United States and be grateful for their
[00:11:31] time here. But it turns out, this is a
[00:11:33] very obvious point, but it needs to be
[00:11:35] restated. That will only happen if they
[00:11:37] are required by their host country,
[00:11:39] which is us,
[00:11:42] to start establishing some loyalty and
[00:11:44] gratitude to the country. Thank you,
[00:11:46] America. I'm so glad to be here. This is
[00:11:48] my new home. I am now loyal to the
[00:11:50] United States. And this is considered
[00:11:53] totally unacceptable, toxic, as they
[00:11:55] say. in fact maybe a manifestation of
[00:11:57] white supremacy because and this is the
[00:12:00] critical point to know the United States
[00:12:02] has lost the self-confidence necessary
[00:12:05] to import and assimilate people our
[00:12:08] leadership class no longer believes in
[00:12:11] the United States sufficiently to
[00:12:13] convince newcomers to believe in the
[00:12:15] United States that is the bottomline
[00:12:17] truth that's why immigration no longer
[00:12:18] works is not because the immigrants are
[00:12:20] bad some are better than others for sure
[00:12:22] of course people don't have the same
[00:12:25] aptitude Dude, sorry. And that is
[00:12:27] visible across populations. Sorry.
[00:12:31] But the core problem is our leadership
[00:12:33] in the United States, which no longer
[00:12:35] says, and not just at the federal level,
[00:12:36] but up and down at the states, at the
[00:12:38] leadership of NOS's who are facilitating
[00:12:40] this to say, "Okay, you're here. Here
[00:12:43] are the rules. Here's the culture.
[00:12:45] Here's the language. If you're going to
[00:12:46] take from us and live in our
[00:12:47] neighborhoods and use our community
[00:12:49] hospitals and force the rest of us to
[00:12:51] put our grandparents on gurnies in the
[00:12:52] hallway for 2 days, you have to buy into
[00:12:55] our system. And nobody can say that. So
[00:12:58] what is the result? So play a couple
[00:13:01] clips from Elhan Omar who is famous as
[00:13:04] one of the mo, you know, one of the
[00:13:05] dumbest of course members of Congress.
[00:13:07] She has foreign policy views that are
[00:13:09] deeply offensive to, you know, the
[00:13:11] neocons which is why she's famous. But
[00:13:13] she's got a lot of views that are deeply
[00:13:14] offensive to normal people. She hates
[00:13:16] whites and she just says that you move
[00:13:18] to a white country and immediately start
[00:13:19] attacking white people. How does that
[00:13:21] work exactly? I don't know. But we
[00:13:22] tolerate it. We celebrate it. And of
[00:13:25] course, she's not even here legally. She
[00:13:26] got here on visa fraud because she
[00:13:28] married her brother. It's kind of been
[00:13:30] proven.
[00:13:32] So she's an illegal alien somehow
[00:13:34] serving in the United States Congress.
[00:13:35] How'd she get elected? Well, because
[00:13:36] there was critical mass of her fellow
[00:13:38] Somali in her congressional district. So
[00:13:40] she got elected. So, it's like worst
[00:13:42] case scenario all the way around. A
[00:13:45] dumb, bigoted person with anti-American
[00:13:48] views serves in the United States
[00:13:50] Congress.
[00:13:52] But that's not the worst of it. The
[00:13:54] worst of it is as she serves the United
[00:13:57] States Congress, as she serves the
[00:13:59] American people, she's actually serving
[00:14:01] her real people, which are the Somali
[00:14:03] people. And she says so out loud. Here's
[00:14:06] the first of two clips from Elon Omar
[00:14:08] pledging allegiance not to the United
[00:14:09] States but to Somalia.
[00:14:19] [cheering]
[00:14:32] special relationship.
[00:14:39] [cheering]
[00:14:55] Not the prettiest language. Not like
[00:14:57] hearing Balszac read in the original,
[00:14:59] but whatever.
[00:15:01] You could see the translation on the
[00:15:02] screen. And in case you couldn't, she
[00:15:03] repeatedly referred to our president.
[00:15:05] Now, that was 2002. The president was
[00:15:07] Joe Biden. She wasn't referring to Joe
[00:15:09] Biden. She was talking about the
[00:15:10] president of Somalia, our president, our
[00:15:12] leader, our guy who runs our country,
[00:15:15] which is not the United States. And that
[00:15:18] was over three years ago. So, Ilan
[00:15:21] Omar's taken a ton of crap since. most
[00:15:23] of it deserved, but most of it has been
[00:15:26] aimed at her foreign policy views.
[00:15:27] You're saying crappy things about the
[00:15:29] Israeli government or whatever. How many
[00:15:31] of you have noted that Elon Omar is
[00:15:34] openly disloyal to the nation, our
[00:15:37] nation that our ancestors built in the
[00:15:40] United States Congress? Oo. Plus, she's
[00:15:43] an illegal alien. And if you think
[00:15:45] that's unfair, here's Elon Omar in 2015,
[00:15:49] before she got into Congress, making
[00:15:51] exactly the same point.
[00:15:52] In 2016, it's election cycle
[00:15:56] and you guys have the ability to make an
[00:16:00] impact on where our nation is headed.
[00:16:04] Not only here in the United States, but
[00:16:07] even in our nation back home.
[00:16:10] >> Our nation back home. Who is we exactly?
[00:16:15] This is someone who seeks to lead
[00:16:17] Americans in our legislative body, our
[00:16:20] Congress, and our country refers to
[00:16:22] someone else's country that most of our
[00:16:24] actual countrymen cannot even locate on
[00:16:26] a map.
[00:16:29] And she's not embarrassed to say it.
[00:16:30] Look, politicians say idiotic things all
[00:16:33] the time. Of course, they also have
[00:16:35] extremely idiotic ideas all the time.
[00:16:36] Some very dark ideas sometimes.
[00:16:39] But the difference is there's push back.
[00:16:41] No, you can't say that. You can't say
[00:16:43] that. That's totally out of bounds.
[00:16:45] That's not how we do things here. We
[00:16:46] don't have a tribal system. We don't
[00:16:48] want one. Yes, obviously we're getting
[00:16:50] one, but we're going to push back
[00:16:51] against it as long as we can cuz we want
[00:16:52] the country to hang together cuz we like
[00:16:54] it and our ancestors built it. So, you
[00:16:56] cannot refer to a foreign country as my
[00:16:58] country and no, you can't serve in that
[00:17:00] country's military. You can't have dual
[00:17:01] citizenship with that country. Probably
[00:17:04] shouldn't speak their language in
[00:17:05] public. And no, we're not putting your
[00:17:07] language on our ballots. This is the
[00:17:08] United States. You moved here because it
[00:17:10] was an Anglo country. All these
[00:17:12] institutions were built on the Anglo
[00:17:13] model. And if you hate that, don't live
[00:17:16] here. That's totally fair. It's the
[00:17:18] opposite of bigoted. The United States
[00:17:20] is based on a universalist principle. It
[00:17:22] is famously a country built on ideas.
[00:17:25] Now, whether that works or not is an
[00:17:27] open question. It's not working right
[00:17:29] now. The countries that are working are
[00:17:30] ethnostates. Actually,
[00:17:34] China is an ethnostate. It's Hanchinese.
[00:17:36] It's a HanChinese state. Japan is a
[00:17:38] Japanese country. Well, we don't have
[00:17:39] that. Okay? Okay. And we're never going
[00:17:41] to have it at this point. So whether or
[00:17:43] not it was a good idea to build our
[00:17:45] national identity on a creed, whether
[00:17:47] it's a good idea to be a creedle country
[00:17:49] or not, it is. And there's no obvious
[00:17:51] solution to it at this point. And so if
[00:17:54] we're going to continue this experiment
[00:17:55] and whether that works, you have to
[00:17:58] demand that everybody's allin on
[00:18:01] something that unites every person in
[00:18:02] the country. And it can't just be gay
[00:18:04] marriage. That's not enough. It's not
[00:18:07] enough to say we're a pro-LGBQ
[00:18:10] plus and then of course not define it,
[00:18:13] but your openness to other people's
[00:18:16] weird sex lives is not a unifying
[00:18:19] national principle. Sorry, that's weak
[00:18:21] sauce. We can't have a religion because
[00:18:25] it's religiously diverse and the
[00:18:27] constitution prohibits it at this point.
[00:18:29] We can't have a race, okay? Because
[00:18:30] there just so many different races.
[00:18:34] Maybe that would have worked, but at
[00:18:36] this point it's not going to work. And
[00:18:38] the only way to get there is through
[00:18:39] violence. And no.
[00:18:41] So realistically, not on Twitter, but
[00:18:43] like in real life, what do we do? And
[00:18:46] that's enforce with efficiency and
[00:18:51] assertiveness, aggression, even the idea
[00:18:54] that you can't have crap like that. You
[00:18:56] can't have our leaders talking about
[00:18:58] their tribes in public. doesn't mean you
[00:19:01] can't identify with your tribe or live
[00:19:03] near people who speak your language in
[00:19:05] private or be proud of the fact that
[00:19:07] your ancestors are from Somalia. That's
[00:19:09] all fine. It's great. Keep your culture.
[00:19:12] But when you're leading this country, if
[00:19:14] you're in a position of leadership, you
[00:19:15] have to appeal to something that is
[00:19:19] universal, something that unites all of
[00:19:21] us. You can't just demand that people be
[00:19:23] nice to my tribe.
[00:19:26] Attack his tribe, but be nice to my
[00:19:27] tribe. No, it doesn't work. And that
[00:19:29] will once again for the fifth time that
[00:19:31] will get to violence. But we're just
[00:19:33] allowing this
[00:19:35] openly
[00:19:37] across the country. It's not just in
[00:19:39] Minnesota with Elon Omar. Here's a state
[00:19:43] representative from the state of Maine.
[00:19:44] This is the former mayor briefly the
[00:19:46] mayor of South Portland who's obviously
[00:19:48] not from Maine. She's from Somalia. And
[00:19:51] of course she has exactly the same
[00:19:52] attitudes. Watch her. How can the
[00:19:54] politics in Somali can be you know
[00:19:57] resonate what we have here in the United
[00:19:59] States the democracy that we have? How
[00:20:01] can you help us uh uh you know be a
[00:20:03] better country and build back what we
[00:20:06] used to have back in long time ago. So
[00:20:09] hopefully um we will be able to help our
[00:20:12] country uh our former country Somalia.
[00:20:16] >> How can you help us to build back better
[00:20:19] what we used to be a long time ago?
[00:20:20] Well, that of course was basically
[00:20:21] Donald Trump's campaign slogan, but
[00:20:24] she's not a Trump voter because she's
[00:20:25] not talking about the United States.
[00:20:26] She's not talking about rebuilding the
[00:20:28] US, making our country better. She's
[00:20:29] saying, "How can you as Americans send
[00:20:32] more money to my country, which is not
[00:20:33] the United States, despite the fact I
[00:20:34] serve in the freaking state legislature
[00:20:36] in Augusta, has nothing to do with your
[00:20:38] country. How can you help me?" But
[00:20:41] enough about you. What about me? That's
[00:20:44] what she's saying. And no one says,
[00:20:45] "Shut up, honey. Get out. That's not
[00:20:48] acceptable to stand up as a state
[00:20:50] legislator and demand that the country
[00:20:53] that gave you safe harbor and free stuff
[00:20:56] and raised your three kids here for free
[00:20:59] that that country pay your former
[00:21:02] country cuz why?
[00:21:05] That is totally not acceptable.
[00:21:08] And yet, not only is it allowed, it's
[00:21:12] encouraged.
[00:21:14] So, take a look at a real part of the
[00:21:16] problem. And of course, Elon Omar does
[00:21:18] not deserve a pass and she's not,
[00:21:21] you know, innocent here. On the other
[00:21:23] hand, Elon Omar isn't from here and she
[00:21:27] somehow went from a refugee camp, I
[00:21:29] think in Kenya to the United States and
[00:21:31] in a couple years she's talking like a
[00:21:33] white liberal. Well, how did that
[00:21:34] happen? That's not a feature of
[00:21:36] traditional Somali culture. She got that
[00:21:38] from white liberals here. They taught
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[00:22:45] is a guy called Jacob Fry. Now, he's the
[00:22:47] mayor of Minneapolis. And Jacob Fry is
[00:22:49] the perfect guy for the job cuz he's not
[00:22:51] from Minneapolis. He's not from
[00:22:52] Minnesota at all. He's from suburban
[00:22:55] Arlington, Virginia. He didn't move to
[00:22:59] Minnesota until he was an adult
[00:23:02] until he got a job at some law firm in
[00:23:04] Minneapolis practicing discrimination
[00:23:06] law. Okay. kind of tells the whole story
[00:23:08] there. And within two years, he's
[00:23:09] running for office in a state he's not
[00:23:11] from and has never lived in before,
[00:23:12] knows nothing about.
[00:23:14] Speaking of annoying immigrants, and
[00:23:16] somehow, mostly because the people are
[00:23:19] actually born in Minneapolis to
[00:23:20] understand its actual concerns are too
[00:23:23] busy and too disengaged or whatever. not
[00:23:28] as wellconed and as aggressive as Jacob
[00:23:29] Fry was. Jacob Fry becomes the mayor
[00:23:32] ultimately of Minneapolis, which is one
[00:23:34] of the bigger and used to be one of the
[00:23:35] prettier cities in the United States.
[00:23:37] He's got nothing to do with Minneapolis.
[00:23:40] He just showed up and he immediately
[00:23:43] sets about making Minneapolis like a
[00:23:45] truly modern city. And by modern, we
[00:23:47] mean not gleaming glass towers or
[00:23:50] functioning air conditioning. No, we
[00:23:52] mean homelessness, open drug use and
[00:23:55] Somali because you can't really be a
[00:23:57] modern American city according to
[00:24:00] neoliberals unless you have like a lot
[00:24:02] of open human degradation and suffering
[00:24:04] and that means you've arrived and then
[00:24:06] you can you know genulect before the
[00:24:09] overdosing addicts on your sidewalks and
[00:24:11] say we care so much. You can start the
[00:24:12] whole performance where everything's
[00:24:14] about what a good person you are. So,
[00:24:18] Jacob Fry has announced and somehow
[00:24:19] didn't get arrested for saying this,
[00:24:21] that they're just going to ignore
[00:24:22] federal immigration law in Minneapolis
[00:24:25] because Somali's have done such a great
[00:24:27] job there. Here's Jacob Fry, the mayor.
[00:24:30] >> There are as many as 100 federal agents
[00:24:34] that will be deployed to the Twin Cities
[00:24:36] with a specific focus on targeting our
[00:24:39] Somali community. To our Somali
[00:24:42] community, we love you and we stand with
[00:24:46] you. That commitment is rock solid.
[00:24:49] Minneapolis is proud to be home to the
[00:24:52] largest Somali community in the entire
[00:24:54] country. They've been here for decades
[00:24:58] in many instances. They're entrepreneurs
[00:25:01] and fathers. They benefit both the
[00:25:04] culture and the economic resilience of
[00:25:07] our city. We will not compromise our
[00:25:09] values here in Minneapolis. Our values
[00:25:12] and our commitment to the Somali
[00:25:14] community, to every community of
[00:25:17] immigrants and people in our city, is
[00:25:20] rock solid and will be unwavering.
[00:25:24] Our police, many of whom are Somali
[00:25:27] themselves are trusted partners in
[00:25:29] keeping people safe. They will not
[00:25:32] collaborate with any federal agency
[00:25:34] around doing immigration enforcement
[00:25:36] work to our Somali community.
[00:25:40] Dam shabka Somali Kunul Minnesota Gahan
[00:25:45] Minneapolis Wan Ku Janilai Juan Ku Gerb
[00:25:53] Taganahan
[00:25:56] America's own Justin Trudeau you know at
[00:25:59] some point probably pretty soon because
[00:26:00] our system is changing so fast guys like
[00:26:04] that and their female counterparts are
[00:26:07] even more numerous sort of graveling
[00:26:10] before whatever immigrant group it is
[00:26:12] speaking their language in the most kind
[00:26:15] of
[00:26:17] obsequious way. People like that will be
[00:26:19] considered a joke. And as we look out on
[00:26:20] the ruins of formerly great cities,
[00:26:22] we'll ask like how did anyone ever elect
[00:26:24] someone like that? Because clearly the
[00:26:25] goal here is not and never has been to
[00:26:28] elevate the people who were born there,
[00:26:30] who have lived there a long time, who
[00:26:31] actually built the city, who are
[00:26:33] actually working hard, who aren't, you
[00:26:35] know, 90% on welfare like the actual
[00:26:37] producers and just the normal people who
[00:26:39] pay their taxes and go to work. It's not
[00:26:41] to help them. Minneapolis has not gotten
[00:26:43] better in the last 10 years. Hasn't
[00:26:44] gotten better under Jacob Fry. It's
[00:26:46] gotten much worse. Go there and you'll
[00:26:48] see.
[00:26:50] city built by Swedes. Tidy, kind of
[00:26:53] boring, sort of sterile, not very warm
[00:26:56] like the Swedes themselves, but
[00:26:59] functional for sure, polite, absolutely,
[00:27:02] famously so. Is it that now? No. It's
[00:27:05] dirty and dangerous and you know exactly
[00:27:06] the direction it's heading and so does
[00:27:07] Jacob Fry, but he doesn't care because
[00:27:10] the point is to give speeches like that.
[00:27:13] The point of which is I'm a good person.
[00:27:16] I'm a really, really good person. Look
[00:27:17] all the suffering around me. I care
[00:27:20] unlike you white people.
[00:27:23] And that kind of gets to what this
[00:27:25] really is, which is an act in racial
[00:27:27] hostility. That's what this really is.
[00:27:29] This is what you do when you hate the
[00:27:30] people who already live there. And of
[00:27:32] course, the Democratic Party has spent
[00:27:33] the last 30 years saying we don't like
[00:27:35] white men. Just period. We're not lying
[00:27:36] about it. We're for the end of
[00:27:38] whiteness. We can't wait till this
[00:27:39] country is less white. Imagine saying
[00:27:41] that about any other group. We can't we
[00:27:43] the end of Jewishness. We can't wait
[00:27:45] till there Jews here.
[00:27:48] No one would defend. I certainly
[00:27:49] wouldn't have. That's horrible. It's
[00:27:50] genocidal, actually. And that's exactly
[00:27:52] the language Fry and people like Fry
[00:27:54] have used for 30 years. So, this is part
[00:27:56] of that. Of course.
[00:28:00] And by the way, I guess I'm liberal
[00:28:02] enough to assume they're probably Somali
[00:28:04] you would like to live next to
[00:28:07] who are great people and are
[00:28:08] entrepreneurial. Shouldn't discount
[00:28:10] anybody based on how they were born,
[00:28:13] period, ever. which is why Jacob Fry's
[00:28:16] bigotry is immoral.
[00:28:18] On the other hand, as a community, not a
[00:28:20] net benefit, not even close to a net
[00:28:22] benefit, as you're about to hear from
[00:28:24] two reporters, one in Maine and one in
[00:28:26] Somalia. But that doesn't matter to
[00:28:29] Jacob Fry. The point is political power
[00:28:31] and the ability to boast about what a
[00:28:33] good person he is, signifying, of
[00:28:34] course, that deep down he knows the
[00:28:36] opposite is true. And it would be really
[00:28:37] interesting to get forensic about Jacob
[00:28:38] Fry's personal life. And I bet you'd
[00:28:40] find exactly what you expect to find,
[00:28:41] which is a trail of sadness and broken
[00:28:43] relationships and betrayal and all kinds
[00:28:45] of other ugly things. Just guessing. So,
[00:28:48] but he's all in on this. I'm a member of
[00:28:50] the Somali community. Grew up in Ma
[00:28:52] Mugadishu. You could probably tell
[00:28:53] Arlington, Virginia. Never. No. Didn't
[00:28:55] go to William and Mary. Went to
[00:28:56] Mogadishu.
[00:28:58] And so, once you embrace adopt a new
[00:29:01] culture, that means you have to eat its
[00:29:03] food. And so, Jacob Fry, in other words,
[00:29:05] talked himself into a box. He had to eat
[00:29:09] Somali food. And the problem for Jacob
[00:29:12] Fry was that took place on camera. And
[00:29:15] now you get to see what it was like for
[00:29:17] Jacob Fry to eat Somali food. Watch.
[00:29:21] [music]
[00:29:29] >> [music]
[00:29:35] >> There's an awful lot of chewing there.
[00:29:36] Uh, vanishingly little swallowing. You
[00:29:39] may have noticed like it's really good
[00:29:42] as he shovels a mouthful of [laughter]
[00:29:45] gelatinous brown material. Probably
[00:29:48] undercooks goat or something like that.
[00:29:51] Kind of having a little trouble getting
[00:29:52] through the gristle and senue in the
[00:29:55] goat. He looked like he was dying there.
[00:29:57] And you would almost feel sympathetic
[00:30:00] except Jacob Fry deserves every bit of
[00:30:04] that because like all of these people
[00:30:06] who import
[00:30:08] masses of suffering humanity in the
[00:30:10] United States for their own moral
[00:30:11] aggrandisement and their own political
[00:30:13] power, they care not at all about the
[00:30:15] actual culture. They know nothing about
[00:30:18] it at all and they don't care to learn.
[00:30:20] It's merely a performance. And there is
[00:30:22] a specific kind of white liberal who
[00:30:24] traffic traffics in this for a living.
[00:30:28] And there's something almost uniquely
[00:30:31] repulsive about them. And again, it's
[00:30:33] not to give the Somali a pass, but the
[00:30:35] Somali aren't here by accident. And the
[00:30:36] Somalies don't have these attitudes by
[00:30:38] accident. If you imported 260,000
[00:30:40] Somalis and said, "Okay, here are the
[00:30:42] rules. This is how we behave in the
[00:30:44] United States." No, we're not doing that
[00:30:45] here. And if you don't like it, go back
[00:30:46] to Moadishu or your refugee camp in
[00:30:48] Kenya.
[00:30:49] If we had some self-respect, if our
[00:30:53] leaders actually cared about the
[00:30:54] country, if they liked the culture they
[00:30:55] represent, which is a pre-existing
[00:30:57] culture, it's been going for 250 years,
[00:31:01] then you can imagine that a lot of the
[00:31:02] Somali, like every other immigrant group
[00:31:04] in the early 20th century, would
[00:31:06] probably be pretty what we used to call
[00:31:07] assimilated now. But instead, the point
[00:31:11] is to bring the poorest, least educated
[00:31:13] people in the world to the United
[00:31:15] States, immediately put them on welfare
[00:31:16] generationally, destroy the cities you
[00:31:18] park them in for free,
[00:31:21] low-income housing, making a lot of
[00:31:23] landlords rich, driving out the people
[00:31:25] who live there who actually deserved our
[00:31:26] help, like the unemployed factory
[00:31:28] workers throughout the state of Maine
[00:31:30] who were displaced by the Somalies, the
[00:31:32] cab drivers who were displaced by the
[00:31:33] Somalies because the Somalies got their
[00:31:36] jobs through the government.
[00:31:40] That's not the point. The point is to
[00:31:43] punish the people who already live there
[00:31:45] and to worship at the altar of third
[00:31:48] world purity. Now, there are a lot of
[00:31:51] ways to express this, but this this
[00:31:52] picture, we're going to put up a big
[00:31:53] picture and then we're going to zero in
[00:31:54] on it. This is a bunch of Democratic
[00:31:57] Party pubas in the state of Maine
[00:31:58] recently listening to a Somali
[00:32:01] Democratic activist talk. Now, if you
[00:32:03] look third from the left, there is a
[00:32:06] woman in purple
[00:32:09] and that woman is the And now I just
[00:32:12] linger on that picture for a second.
[00:32:15] That woman is the Secretary of State of
[00:32:18] Maine
[00:32:19] and her name is Shannab Bellowos. And
[00:32:22] look at the expression on her face. Is
[00:32:24] that the most perfect thing you have
[00:32:26] ever seen?
[00:32:28] It's almost it's almost unbelievable.
[00:32:30] She is sitting there
[00:32:33] worshiping. Oh, there's a black person.
[00:32:36] She doesn't actually know any, of
[00:32:37] course. By the way, she's not from Maine
[00:32:39] either,
[00:32:42] but she is just aruck. She's like the
[00:32:45] rich lady in your neighborhood who went
[00:32:47] to Kenya at 40 and just had a on a
[00:32:49] safari and just had a life-changing
[00:32:51] experience. They're so pure. They're so
[00:32:53] decent. [laughter]
[00:32:54] She knows nothing. All she knows is
[00:32:57] there's a non-white person. And I was
[00:33:00] told my whole life that that person like
[00:33:02] Rosa Parks is better than I am. Oh, she
[00:33:06] claps her claps her hands. Oh, you're so
[00:33:09] great. [laughter]
[00:33:11] And you almost want to say Shannabella
[00:33:13] is like, "Can you tell me the details of
[00:33:16] female circumcision?" Which I think is
[00:33:17] pretty much universal uh in Somalia. The
[00:33:20] clitctomy for example, where are you on
[00:33:22] that? You for that? She'd be like,
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[00:34:50] Anyway, that's State of Maine. We want
[00:34:52] to go to a reporter from the state of
[00:34:54] Maine who I think is queued up now um
[00:34:57] Steve Robinson to
[00:35:00] explain how exactly this experiment that
[00:35:02] has made Chennabellos feel so virtuous,
[00:35:04] really in awe to be in the presence of
[00:35:06] an actual Somali from the dark
[00:35:08] continent. Oh, sorry, Africa.
[00:35:11] Africa, which I'm sure she believes is a
[00:35:13] country.
[00:35:14] How is this actually gone? Uh Steve
[00:35:17] Robinson is the editor of the main wire,
[00:35:19] probably the only reporter left in
[00:35:20] Maine, and who has done just remarkable
[00:35:23] work on this story. Steve, how is it
[00:35:26] working in the state of Maine with
[00:35:27] Somali immigrants?
[00:35:29] >> Well, uh the city of Lewon, where
[00:35:31] they're concentrated, uh continues to
[00:35:33] set records for shootings in the streets
[00:35:35] as well as overdoses compared to Bangor,
[00:35:38] which is a similarly situated town. It's
[00:35:40] not growing as fast. Uh there's more
[00:35:42] people on disability, more people on
[00:35:44] welfare. U the economy is really
[00:35:46] laggered. But if you ask Representative
[00:35:49] Deca Dot, she says that Lewon is a
[00:35:51] booming city. Uh and I couldn't help but
[00:35:54] note with a sense of irony that she made
[00:35:55] that comment shortly after one of I
[00:35:58] think it was like the 200th shooting of
[00:35:59] the year in Lewon. But fortunately,
[00:36:02] >> May I ask you to stop for a sec? You you
[00:36:04] grew up in Maine. I don't remember a lot
[00:36:06] of shootings in Lewon when it was French
[00:36:08] Canadian. Were there? Is it always had a
[00:36:10] lot of shootings?
[00:36:12] >> No, it hasn't. Uh the city has changed
[00:36:14] quite a bit. And to be fair, it was in a
[00:36:16] period of population decline in the '9s,
[00:36:19] mostly because of the mills closing. But
[00:36:21] uh you can't help but notice a
[00:36:23] difference in character between the
[00:36:25] immigrants who built the canals and
[00:36:27] built the cathedrals and built the mill
[00:36:29] buildings with the last 25 years of
[00:36:32] Somali migrant resettlement in Lewon. Uh
[00:36:35] so I think everybody uh everybody in the
[00:36:36] state of Maine recognizes that Lewon has
[00:36:39] fallen on hard times. Everybody there is
[00:36:41] suffering. The uh migrant resettlement
[00:36:43] hasn't been some silver bullet for the
[00:36:45] economic woes uh like the Democrats have
[00:36:48] claimed like uh Secretary of State
[00:36:50] Chennabellos would claim. And I have to,
[00:36:52] you know, observe that while she's there
[00:36:55] uh smiling and gawking at Sofhia Khaled,
[00:36:58] the head of the or uh um the community
[00:37:01] organizing alliance, she was a former
[00:37:03] employee of Gateway Community Services,
[00:37:06] which is the uh organization that's been
[00:37:08] making headlines because of the
[00:37:10] allegations of Medicaid fraud against
[00:37:12] them. So following the allegations of
[00:37:14] Medicaid fraud against Gateway Community
[00:37:16] Services, all of these Democrats decided
[00:37:18] to share a stage with the former special
[00:37:21] assistant to the CEO of Gateway
[00:37:23] Community Services. So this is what
[00:37:26] we've heard a lot about in the state of
[00:37:29] Minnesota to the tune of billions and
[00:37:31] billions stolen through this Somali scam
[00:37:34] of health health federal health
[00:37:36] insurance. Um, so little attention has
[00:37:40] been paid to the state of Maine, which I
[00:37:42] think on a per capita basis has been
[00:37:44] more even more affected by Somali
[00:37:46] immigration and the fraud there has been
[00:37:49] enormous. So, and it hasn't gotten any
[00:37:51] attention. So, can you just give us an
[00:37:53] overview of what's happened in Maine
[00:37:54] with fraud? So I think the the top line
[00:37:57] is that the so much of Maine's Medicaid
[00:38:01] rules have been re rewritten by
[00:38:04] Democratic lawmakers with a view towards
[00:38:07] uh transferring wealth from workingclass
[00:38:10] white manners to migrant communities
[00:38:12] that much of what has happened over the
[00:38:14] last 20 years is actually legal. Uh you
[00:38:17] know it's not really fair to call it
[00:38:18] fraud. They've engineered these programs
[00:38:21] so that they transfer money specifically
[00:38:23] to companies like Gateway Community
[00:38:25] Services. We've created this uh soft
[00:38:28] services area of migrant services or
[00:38:31] personal support services. And what
[00:38:33] these really are is just a pipeline of
[00:38:35] money from taxpayers into these NOS uh
[00:38:40] organizations by the way that also have
[00:38:42] political activities. political uh
[00:38:44] organizations housed in the same exact
[00:38:47] uh buildings in Lewon as organizations
[00:38:50] that are getting signing people up for
[00:38:51] welfare. Um, so fraud maybe isn't
[00:38:54] exactly the right word because we don't
[00:38:57] have uh a very many cases of that in the
[00:38:59] last five years because nothing's been
[00:39:00] caught, nothing's been prosecuted, and
[00:39:03] the rules are written so broadly that
[00:39:05] they can, for example, uh, one clan
[00:39:08] could come into Lewon, they could start
[00:39:10] an LLC, let's call it Acme LLC, and they
[00:39:14] could hire all of their cousins and
[00:39:16] their aunts and their uncles and then
[00:39:18] get their aunts and uncles and cousins
[00:39:19] enrolled into mainare and and bill to
[00:39:23] their own company to care for their
[00:39:25] aunts, uncles, and cousins while
[00:39:26] employing their aunts, uncles, and
[00:39:28] cousins. That would be totally legal as
[00:39:30] long as they can manufacture the paper
[00:39:33] trail to not get caught in an audit.
[00:39:35] It'd be totally legal to do that here in
[00:39:37] the state of Maine. So why would
[00:39:41] lawmakers in Maine and Augusta, the
[00:39:43] legislature, why would they design a
[00:39:45] system that made it easy, almost
[00:39:48] inevitable
[00:39:52] this the fraud, the the theft of
[00:39:54] billions?
[00:39:56] >> I think for the for the for the Somali
[00:39:59] diaspora, it's clearly a a way to become
[00:40:02] wealthy. You said uh in your monologue,
[00:40:04] Tucker, that they haven't been
[00:40:05] successful. I mean, I would disagree. By
[00:40:07] the tribal standards of Jubaland or
[00:40:09] Pontand, they've been very successful.
[00:40:11] The amount of money, I mean, they're
[00:40:12] driving around in Mercedes and Dodge
[00:40:14] Chargers and they've been very
[00:40:16] successful at uh playing the game
[00:40:18] according to the rules uh of their
[00:40:20] culture. Um, according to ours, not so
[00:40:22] much. But for Democratic lawmakers, this
[00:40:25] is about electoral power. uh in
[00:40:27] reviewing some of the contracts that the
[00:40:28] Mills administration handed to Gateway
[00:40:31] Community Services, which is a very
[00:40:32] politically connected uh firm in
[00:40:35] addition to facing uh allegations of
[00:40:37] Medicaid fraud. In the contracts that
[00:40:40] they got in the run-up to the 2022
[00:40:41] election, they were given money along
[00:40:44] with a bunch of other migrant NOS's to
[00:40:47] go out and sign up migrants for food
[00:40:50] stamps, for their EBT cards, for
[00:40:52] Medicaid, and even they they were even
[00:40:55] given money to uh provide groceries and
[00:40:58] household supplies to migrant household.
[00:41:00] Basically walking around money. It was
[00:41:02] right there in the contract, the no bid
[00:41:05] contract that the Mills administration
[00:41:06] gave to Gateway. Uh they were also
[00:41:09] allowed to keep data on the people that
[00:41:10] they were uh delivering these groceries
[00:41:13] to and signing up for welfare benefits.
[00:41:15] Now under federal law, if you sign
[00:41:16] someone up for Medicaid or food stamps,
[00:41:18] you're required to provide assistance
[00:41:20] registering to vote. So what does that
[00:41:22] look like to you, Tucker? You're you're
[00:41:24] given walking around money to migrants.
[00:41:26] You're helping them register to vote and
[00:41:28] you're keeping track of them. That looks
[00:41:29] like a political arm of the Democratic
[00:41:31] party. So why wouldn't the Democrats
[00:41:33] support that? And it's no coincidence
[00:41:35] that in the subsequent election in 2022,
[00:41:38] uh, you know, uh, French French Catholic
[00:41:40] born, French-speaking Paul Le Page lost
[00:41:42] Lewon for the first time in his
[00:41:44] political career
[00:41:46] because the demographics of Lewon had
[00:41:48] been changed on purpose so that he and
[00:41:51] people like him would lose and the
[00:41:54] fruits of their labor would be stolen by
[00:41:56] some group acting only on its own
[00:41:57] behalf. Right? I mean, let's just be
[00:42:00] clear. the Somali who are engaged in
[00:42:02] this fraud, and I think it is fraud, are
[00:42:04] acting only in behalf of their tribe.
[00:42:06] That's it. There no other beneficiaries.
[00:42:08] >> Well, certainly in the case of Gateway
[00:42:10] Community Services, which is the most
[00:42:11] high-profile group, the allegation is
[00:42:14] fraud. If if what Chris Bernardini, the
[00:42:16] former employee who was there for five
[00:42:18] and a half years in handling their main
[00:42:19] care billing, if his allegations are
[00:42:21] true, and I find no reason to believe
[00:42:24] that they're not, he made the
[00:42:25] allegations to me back in March, and
[00:42:28] Gateway hasn't sued, hasn't said
[00:42:30] anything, uh has barely even denied the
[00:42:32] allegations. Uh if those allegations are
[00:42:35] true, then they were engaged in
[00:42:37] systematic fraud. Uh what Bernardini
[00:42:39] said is that supervisors at the company
[00:42:41] were just logging into their computers
[00:42:43] and inventing Medicaid claims from thin
[00:42:46] air, sending them to the state and the
[00:42:48] state was paying them over a period of
[00:42:50] five and a half years. And during this
[00:42:52] time the uh assistant executive director
[00:42:56] at Gateway Community Services was
[00:42:58] Representative Deca Dlock from South
[00:43:00] Portland by way of Minnesota, by way of
[00:43:02] Kenya, by way of Somalia. Uh the uh head
[00:43:05] of it is uh seen in pictures with Janet
[00:43:08] Mills Abdul Lahi Ali. Uh Representative
[00:43:11] Ysef Ysef from Portland. Uh he's also a
[00:43:14] state uh lawmaker and a former Gateway
[00:43:16] Community Services employee. Uh Ecklas
[00:43:18] Ahmed from Sudan is a former Gateway uh
[00:43:21] community services employee. She's now
[00:43:23] the only employee in Governor Mills new
[00:43:26] office of new Americans. So, this is a a
[00:43:29] thoroughly political organization that
[00:43:31] is best understood not as a one-off
[00:43:35] example of Medicaid fraud, but as an arm
[00:43:37] of the Democratic party. Uh, this is a
[00:43:40] this is functioning exactly as it's
[00:43:42] supposed to, and they have every
[00:43:43] incentive to look the other way when
[00:43:45] there are allegations of fraud. Uh, when
[00:43:47] there's audits that show that they're
[00:43:49] billing for services that they can't
[00:43:51] prove they provided, which is what the
[00:43:52] audits have shown of Gateway. Uh, under
[00:43:55] Maine law, all that's required to turn
[00:43:57] off the flow of taxpayer money to
[00:43:59] Gateway Community Services is a credible
[00:44:02] allegation. You don't need a finding of
[00:44:04] criminal wrongdoing. You don't need a
[00:44:05] failed audit. All you need is a credible
[00:44:07] allegation. And the Mills administration
[00:44:09] could shut off the flow of money uh to
[00:44:11] this organization. They haven't done
[00:44:13] that. Not after the two failed audits
[00:44:16] and not after the credible allegation by
[00:44:17] a former employee. they continue to
[00:44:19] allow this company to bill uh main care
[00:44:22] right out of the pockets of Maine
[00:44:24] taxpayers. And even Tucker after we uh
[00:44:27] showed that uh Abdullahi Ali was in
[00:44:30] Jubiland, Somalia, a place I never
[00:44:33] thought that I would have to learn about
[00:44:34] running for warlord, running to depose
[00:44:37] the sitting president of Jubaland. Uh
[00:44:40] the attorney general of the state of Ma
[00:44:42] Maine, Aaron Fry, gave them $400,000
[00:44:45] from the opioid settlement money. Uh so
[00:44:48] they know what they're dealing with and
[00:44:49] they continue the flow of money into
[00:44:51] these organizations because they know
[00:44:53] that it's going to be politically useful
[00:44:54] for them because these organizations
[00:44:56] deliver the migrant vote. And by the
[00:44:58] way, Chennabellos has admitted on a
[00:45:00] podcast with Mark Elias that
[00:45:02] non-citizens are registered to vote in
[00:45:04] Maine. It's not a coincidence. They're
[00:45:05] getting to the point now where they just
[00:45:06] admit it and they're saying it's a good
[00:45:08] thing.
[00:45:09] >> Okay, that's illegal. Correct. I mean,
[00:45:12] they they certainly can't do federal
[00:45:13] elections, right? So, why isn't the
[00:45:15] National Guard in Maine?
[00:45:17] >> That's an excellent question. You know,
[00:45:19] the Maine has lost the ability to
[00:45:21] self-correct, Tucker. You know, we've
[00:45:24] been on living under uh Democratic uni
[00:45:26] party with the Mills administration for
[00:45:28] 7 years now. Uh the corruption has
[00:45:31] become endemic and uh the Somali
[00:45:33] diaspora is really just a a part of the
[00:45:36] you know, the Mills mafia that's been
[00:45:38] ruling over the state for seven years
[00:45:40] now. Uh, I think you're going to need
[00:45:42] outside help in order to correct this.
[00:45:45] That's why I'm I'm very excited that the
[00:45:47] House Oversight Committee is uh
[00:45:49] investigating uh the abuse of the
[00:45:51] Medicaid program here in Maine. And we
[00:45:53] actually caught the commissioner uh of
[00:45:55] the Department of Health and Human
[00:45:56] Services who oversees Maine responding
[00:46:00] uh to one of her co-workers saying the
[00:46:03] goal here is to avoid a subpoena from
[00:46:05] Congress. And that was in response to an
[00:46:08] inquiry by the House Oversight
[00:46:09] Committee. So, they are they are scared.
[00:46:11] They're terrified of what the House
[00:46:12] Oversight Committee might find when it
[00:46:14] starts flipping over rocks up here in
[00:46:16] Maine. And even earlier, uh 10 days
[00:46:19] before President Trump was inaugurated,
[00:46:21] uh Attorney General Fry sent around a
[00:46:23] directive to Health and Human Services
[00:46:25] employees saying, uh if you get
[00:46:27] contacted by the US Attorney's Office or
[00:46:29] an attorney from the Department of
[00:46:31] Justice, don't talk to them. You got to
[00:46:32] come talk to us. Come talk to us first.
[00:46:34] Uh that doesn't make sound like somebody
[00:46:36] with a a clean conscience. both of them
[00:46:38] sound like uh they have something to
[00:46:40] hide. And what I suspect they are hiding
[00:46:42] is the fact that they've been pushing
[00:46:44] non-citizen Medicaid benefits onto the
[00:46:46] federal government, which is illegal. Uh
[00:46:48] that they know they've been uh using the
[00:46:49] Medicaid program to fund voter outreach
[00:46:52] programs in migrant communities. It's
[00:46:54] all about political power. And they're
[00:46:57] using the uh you know, the workingclass
[00:46:59] people of Maine, people from you know,
[00:47:01] Dexter, people from you know, Milo,
[00:47:04] they're using their money to fund this
[00:47:06] program. And in the meanwh meantime,
[00:47:08] these uh uh Somali community leaders,
[00:47:11] so-called, are growing fabulously
[00:47:13] wealthy.
[00:47:15] >> Has the Justice Department done anything
[00:47:16] about this?
[00:47:18] >> Not to my knowledge, no. I I'm I'm not
[00:47:21] aware of any uh uh uh indictments or
[00:47:23] investigations uh into Somali welfare
[00:47:26] fraud or by the way the the activities
[00:47:30] that of the Mills administration. I
[00:47:31] mean, they've they very clearly took
[00:47:33] federal COVID money and gave it to no
[00:47:36] bid through no bid contracts to a
[00:47:38] hodgepodge of progressive groups like
[00:47:41] Gateway Community Services. And in the
[00:47:43] contract, it said, "Go out, sign these
[00:47:45] people up for welfare, buy them
[00:47:46] groceries, and oh, by the way, you can
[00:47:48] keep data on them, and if you're
[00:47:50] following federal law, you've got to
[00:47:52] help them register to vote." It's all
[00:47:54] laid out in the paperwork. It wasn't
[00:47:56] particularly hard to find. You just had
[00:47:57] to be looking for it. But I'm not aware
[00:47:59] of any effort by uh the Justice
[00:48:01] Department uh uh to look into
[00:48:04] specifically what Gateway Community
[00:48:05] Service is doing. And and they're not
[00:48:07] the only one either, Tucker. There's the
[00:48:08] the main immigrant and uh refugee
[00:48:10] settlement uh services. It's another
[00:48:13] nonprofit in based in Lewon. And you
[00:48:15] know, if you put out a a Google map of
[00:48:18] the shootings in Lewon, right in the
[00:48:19] middle of it, that's where you'll find
[00:48:21] uh this organization. Uh it's uh they
[00:48:24] run a tax services program to help the
[00:48:27] uh Somali obtain benefits. They run a
[00:48:29] driving school to uh help the migrants
[00:48:31] obtain driving licenses. Uh and they
[00:48:34] also are just a an all, you know, like a
[00:48:37] multi-talented recipient of uh state
[00:48:40] dollars. They can do alcohol counseling.
[00:48:42] They can do opioid counseling. They can
[00:48:43] do migrant services. They're a main care
[00:48:46] uh you know provider. They were found in
[00:48:48] an audit to have overbuare by $2.4 $4
[00:48:51] million and still they're allowed to
[00:48:54] continue to bill main care.
[00:48:56] >> People still pay I mean Maine is one of
[00:48:58] the highest tax structures, highest tax
[00:49:00] rates in the country. Why are people
[00:49:02] paying their taxes exactly in Maine?
[00:49:05] >> Well, I mean increasingly they aren't
[00:49:07] they're uh doing the 6 months in a day
[00:49:09] so that they don't have to actually have
[00:49:10] a tax nexus in the state of Maine. It's,
[00:49:13] you know, it's terrible, but that's just
[00:49:14] how reasonable, smart, uh, economically
[00:49:17] thinking people are going to, uh, you
[00:49:19] know, modify their behavior around this
[00:49:20] state. The reason why people continue to
[00:49:23] pay taxes in this state is because
[00:49:25] they're trapped. Uh, you know, it takes
[00:49:26] a critical mass of of savings to be able
[00:49:29] to flee this state. So, you can't, and
[00:49:31] I've heard from people who say that
[00:49:33] they're just trying to save up enough
[00:49:35] money so that they can get out of this
[00:49:37] state. And it it's funny if you uh go
[00:49:39] back to the beginning of this year when
[00:49:41] the legislature came into session, there
[00:49:43] was a $118 million structural shortfall
[00:49:47] is what they called it. They you means
[00:49:49] they uh you know they didn't take they
[00:49:51] they they think that we need to supply
[00:49:53] $118 million more to the government
[00:49:56] rather than having them cut spending.
[00:49:57] And it was all Medicaid. It was all all
[00:49:59] of it was Medicaid. And so they had to
[00:50:01] raise taxes on cigarettes, cannabis,
[00:50:04] Netflix, hospital services. They even
[00:50:06] increased the fee to become a licensed
[00:50:08] arborist in Maine because they're so
[00:50:11] desperate to find ways to raise money to
[00:50:13] pay for this Medicaid deficit. It never
[00:50:16] occurred to them that maybe we should
[00:50:17] just stop uh allowing migrant services
[00:50:20] and personal support services to be buil
[00:50:22] under main care because it's a huge
[00:50:24] bucket of services that's thoroughly
[00:50:26] abused by these people. But the the the
[00:50:28] technocratic neoliberal progressive mind
[00:50:32] just can't uh uh consider that maybe
[00:50:35] their views of uh social and health
[00:50:38] policy are incompatible with their views
[00:50:40] on multiculturalism. They just can't
[00:50:43] empathize with a people who would come
[00:50:45] to say Lewon and fight for their clan
[00:50:48] and systematically scam these programs
[00:50:51] that are meant to help poor people. It
[00:50:53] really breaks their brains to consider
[00:50:54] that maybe multiculturalism and their
[00:50:57] progressive uh you know economic
[00:50:59] policies are incompatible.
[00:51:01] >> I detect a lot of hostility toward
[00:51:03] whites from Somalis. Maybe I'm making up
[00:51:06] my mind. I don't think I am. Um I find
[00:51:09] it totally unacceptable uh to come to a
[00:51:11] majority white country built by white
[00:51:13] people and then hate whites. Like I
[00:51:14] don't know where that attitude came
[00:51:15] from. I'm sure Chennabel had something
[00:51:17] to do with it.
[00:51:18] I detect that and I also detect like no
[00:51:20] attempt at assimilation at all. Am I on
[00:51:24] the right track? Do you think? I
[00:51:25] >> I think you are. And I I think it may
[00:51:27] have something to do with the the
[00:51:29] progressivism that they've uh been I
[00:51:32] guess inculcated with. Uh the the sole
[00:51:36] employee of the office of new Americans,
[00:51:38] Aklas Ahmed, again, former Gateway
[00:51:40] Community Services employee. She's
[00:51:42] actually Sudinise, but uh she was giving
[00:51:44] a video for some political event, one of
[00:51:46] these, you know, insufferable Zoom
[00:51:49] conferences, and she said that there's
[00:51:52] no reason to assimilate. She said that
[00:51:54] no reason to assimilate. And she is the
[00:51:56] sole employee, I would say, the leader
[00:51:58] of the Office of New Americans whose job
[00:52:01] it is supposedly to bring 75,000
[00:52:05] migrants to Maine and help them uh
[00:52:07] assimilate into the workforce. Now, it
[00:52:09] would seem that that's a, you know, a
[00:52:11] fireable offense to think that there's
[00:52:13] no reason to assimilate when you're the
[00:52:15] head of the Office of New Americans, but
[00:52:17] not the case at all because that office
[00:52:19] is not about workforce development or
[00:52:21] assimilation. It's about uh bringing
[00:52:23] migrants to the state of Maine,
[00:52:24] resettling them, enrolling them in
[00:52:26] welfare programs, and making them
[00:52:28] dependent on the Democratic party. I
[00:52:31] think the the big phenomenon that you
[00:52:33] see in the migrant community in Maine
[00:52:35] and I suspected also in Minnesota is the
[00:52:38] gatekeeper phenomenon. So you have
[00:52:40] individuals like representative decadak
[00:52:43] or representative Ysef Ysef or Abdulahi
[00:52:45] Ali the CEO of Deca [snorts]
[00:52:47] of Gateway. You have them coming here
[00:52:50] early in say you know 2015 and they form
[00:52:52] these nonprofits and they get the
[00:52:54] relationships and they get the contracts
[00:52:55] and some money starts flowing their way
[00:52:57] and then subsequent waves of migrants
[00:52:59] become dependent on them because they
[00:53:01] can offer a job or they can teach them
[00:53:03] how to sign up for housing or welfare
[00:53:06] benefits. And so they build almost this
[00:53:08] Ponzi scheme uh of migration and their
[00:53:12] power grows in so far as more migrants
[00:53:15] come into that scheme because they need
[00:53:16] more and more migrants because as soon
[00:53:18] as a Somali in Lewon learns uh English,
[00:53:21] learns the ropes, learns how the
[00:53:23] Democratic Party works, they're just
[00:53:24] going to go start their own hustle,
[00:53:25] start their own NGO. So they require a
[00:53:28] constant influx of migrants in order to
[00:53:31] sustain their own wealth and their own
[00:53:32] power. But the the average uh Somali or
[00:53:36] Sudinise or Angolan migrant in Maine is
[00:53:38] fairly conservative. Their religious
[00:53:40] values are conservative and they're just
[00:53:42] conservative generally by disposition.
[00:53:45] However, they're just dogmatically
[00:53:47] supporting democratic policies that you
[00:53:50] know force uh girls to compete against
[00:53:52] boys in high school sports. Uh so it's
[00:53:55] all because of those gatekeepers. And
[00:53:57] those are individuals often, by the way,
[00:53:59] Tucker, they they don't even like most
[00:54:01] of the Somali that I've talked with,
[00:54:02] they don't like Deca at all. And they
[00:54:04] find this her sense of entitlement a
[00:54:06] little bit repugnant because she
[00:54:08] positions herself as the official
[00:54:11] spokesperson for all brown people in the
[00:54:13] state of Maine. And they don't like that
[00:54:15] at all. But it's useful to the
[00:54:16] Democratic party to have those
[00:54:19] gatekeepers because they can just deal
[00:54:20] with one person. They can just pay off
[00:54:22] the one person. They don't have to pay
[00:54:24] off, you know, a whole mob of people.
[00:54:26] it's difficult to memorize all of those
[00:54:28] names. Uh so it's easier if they just
[00:54:30] have a handful of people that they can
[00:54:32] rely on and and that's what uh Gateway
[00:54:34] Community Services was for the main
[00:54:37] Democrats. I'm not I'm not sure that the
[00:54:38] organization can survive these
[00:54:40] allegations. Uh to the best of my
[00:54:42] knowledge uh the the CEO and founder is
[00:54:46] in Kenya right now with no plans to
[00:54:48] return because he's worried about
[00:54:49] meeting an FBI agent at the airport.
[00:54:51] >> Is he running for warlord too or is that
[00:54:53] that only happens in Somalia?
[00:54:55] >> You know, it's funny. I I have to get
[00:54:56] your expert opinion on this, Tucker,
[00:54:58] because in the first response that his
[00:55:01] uh organization has made to this whole
[00:55:04] story, which we broke back in March, but
[00:55:06] the national media picked it up again
[00:55:08] following uh what's happened in
[00:55:09] Minnesota. He the lawyer's statement
[00:55:12] said that referring to him as a warlord
[00:55:15] uh was racist. It was racially tinged to
[00:55:19] refer to him as a warlord. But we have
[00:55:21] him on video twice in in African media
[00:55:25] saying in Somali that he is using money
[00:55:28] he's raised in America to fund arms and
[00:55:31] militia men. There's even one comment
[00:55:33] where he says specifically that his plan
[00:55:36] is to use the military and the volunteer
[00:55:38] force to depose President Madobe, the
[00:55:41] the incumbent president of Jubiland. To
[00:55:44] my mind, if you're walking around
[00:55:45] Jubilin Somalia and you have you're
[00:55:48] flanked by guys in camouflage carrying
[00:55:50] AK-47s and you've said very publicly on
[00:55:53] multiple occasions that your aim is to
[00:55:55] depose the sitting president, that
[00:55:57] counts as as running for warlord. I
[00:55:59] think warlords in play at that point.
[00:56:02] >> Yeah. I mean, if you are a warlord, I
[00:56:03] think it's fair to describe you as one.
[00:56:04] And so, they've already learned to play
[00:56:06] the race card like the second they get
[00:56:07] here.
[00:56:08] >> Oh, totally. Absolutely. And they've
[00:56:10] also they also know the uh you know
[00:56:13] trying to uh uh play to liberal
[00:56:17] sentiment. They know I you know
[00:56:19] interviewing some uh heads of uh main
[00:56:21] care businesses. You talk them on the
[00:56:23] phone, you can tell that they're so
[00:56:25] accustomed just to being a to being able
[00:56:27] to mouth the platitudes of liberalism
[00:56:30] and just bowl over whoever they're
[00:56:32] talking to when they say, "Oh, well, you
[00:56:33] know, we're I'm only doing this because
[00:56:35] I want to help my community." Well,
[00:56:37] okay. So, how how does the Mercedes-Benz
[00:56:39] Gwagon, your driving, factor into that,
[00:56:41] buddy? They can't explain that. That's
[00:56:43] when they're like, "Ah, well, I don't
[00:56:44] think we should be talking on the phone
[00:56:45] anymore." But they they know the words
[00:56:48] and the phrases that will disarm people
[00:56:50] like Shenna Bellows. They know they know
[00:56:52] what they have to say. It's like a magic
[00:56:54] a magic charm that they utter. And
[00:56:56] Shenna just kind of glazes over and gets
[00:56:58] that lizard smile on her face.
[00:57:00] >> Yeah. Oh, black people. I love them. H
[00:57:04] There's nothing worse than a cringing
[00:57:05] white liberal. Give me a Somali any day
[00:57:07] over Cabbelloos. Um, last question. This
[00:57:10] is a huge story in your state. It's not
[00:57:12] a huge state, but it's one of the oldest
[00:57:14] states and certainly the most beautiful
[00:57:15] of the states.
[00:57:17] Is it being covered by any other media
[00:57:19] organization in this in the state of
[00:57:20] Maine?
[00:57:22] >> It's funny you uh should ask, Tucker. We
[00:57:24] broke the story back in March and all of
[00:57:26] the mainstream outlets which are either
[00:57:29] have received no bid contracts from the
[00:57:31] Mills administration or grants uh or are
[00:57:34] nonprofits funded by George Soros. They
[00:57:37] ignored it for eight months and then
[00:57:39] finally when the news nation picked it
[00:57:42] up and a bunch of other outlets started
[00:57:44] running with it, they decided, well, I
[00:57:46] guess now we have to COVER THESE RACIST
[00:57:48] ATTACKS on Gateway Community Services.
[00:57:50] That's exactly how they they covered it.
[00:57:53] Uh, you know, they they was all about
[00:57:55] uh, you know, outside attacks, racially
[00:57:58] tinged attacks on this service
[00:58:01] organization, which is funny because
[00:58:03] these guys actually covered Abdullahi
[00:58:05] Ali's initial run for president in
[00:58:07] Jubiland. Like he was Somali Barack
[00:58:10] Obama returning to liberate his people.
[00:58:12] They had these just wonderful glowing
[00:58:14] profiles of the guy as if it was uh you
[00:58:17] know he was actually running to be
[00:58:19] president of a country rather than
[00:58:20] warlord of a territory. So they know who
[00:58:22] he is. They know exactly what's going on
[00:58:25] here but they just didn't want to cover
[00:58:26] it because it didn't fit the narrative
[00:58:28] and it didn't contribute to democratic
[00:58:30] power in this state. Uh so to the extent
[00:58:33] they have covered it, it's been totally
[00:58:34] from a hostile angle and you know the
[00:58:36] conservative main wire is the first to
[00:58:39] to surface these allegations. But uh you
[00:58:42] know the the whistleblower here in this
[00:58:44] story, he complained back in 2024 before
[00:58:48] I'd ever talked with him, before he even
[00:58:50] knew what the main wire is. He's living
[00:58:51] in Florida now, by the way. And I and I
[00:58:53] have to tell you that uh he after this
[00:58:56] story came out, he received a letter
[00:58:59] from Main Revenue Services. Can you
[00:59:01] imagine what Main Revenue Services
[00:59:03] wanted from a whistleblower who was
[00:59:05] sharing news about corruption in the
[00:59:07] Democratic regime here in the state? uh
[00:59:10] he was being audited. This is the first
[00:59:12] time he's ever had a tax audit. They
[00:59:13] audited his taxes. And it turns out he's
[00:59:16] the he's the first person, I think, in
[00:59:18] the history of the state to be audited
[00:59:19] by Main Revenue Services. And it turns
[00:59:21] out that the state owes him money
[00:59:24] because Gateway was still collecting uh
[00:59:26] pulling money out of his paycheck while
[00:59:27] he was living in Florida, which doesn't
[00:59:29] have state income tax. So, the state of
[00:59:31] Maine owes him money. Audited him. When
[00:59:33] he discovered that, they said, "Yeah,
[00:59:35] well, if you want that money, you're
[00:59:36] going to have to file." Unbelievable. It
[00:59:39] is unbelievable. It's maybe the most
[00:59:41] corrupt state out of 50.
[00:59:43] >> I think I think that it's We're
[00:59:45] certainly in the running. You know,
[00:59:46] >> certainly in the running [laughter]
[00:59:48] Jersey gets too much credit.
[00:59:50] >> No, it's totally people are afraid.
[00:59:51] Yeah. No,
[00:59:52] >> I would I would die. I would beg for New
[00:59:55] Jersey or Massachusetts levels of
[00:59:57] corruption in Ma in there. We could fix
[00:59:59] so much if we were just at like Ma
[01:00:01] Massachusetts levels of corruption.
[01:00:02] [laughter]
[01:00:03] >> It's unbelievable. Steve, thank you so
[01:00:05] much for that update. I really
[01:00:06] appreciate it.
[01:00:07] >> Thanks, Tom. Thank you.
[01:00:10] >> Well, speaking of a state that has
[01:00:12] almost no journalists left, the state of
[01:00:13] Minnesota, which you may have heard
[01:00:15] because the president has talked about
[01:00:16] it quite a bit, has been rocked, it's
[01:00:20] not too strong to say, rocked by a
[01:00:23] federal health insurance fraud scandal
[01:00:25] to the tune of billions and billions.
[01:00:27] Liz Colin of Alpha News is one of the
[01:00:29] very few journalists left in the state
[01:00:32] of Minnesota and joins us now for an
[01:00:34] explanation what exactly that story is.
[01:00:37] Liz, thanks so much for doing this. Can
[01:00:39] you just start at the beginning and tell
[01:00:41] us what has happened in Minnesota that a
[01:00:44] lot of people in Washington are upset
[01:00:46] about?
[01:00:47] >> Yeah, Tucker, good to be here again. You
[01:00:49] know, I've been a reporter uh in
[01:00:50] Minnesota for nearly 20 years now. I've
[01:00:53] never seen anything uh like this news
[01:00:55] cycle these these last few weeks. Uh on
[01:00:58] a federal level, seems though as if
[01:01:00] people are finally paying attention
[01:01:02] perhaps uh as to what has gone on for
[01:01:04] years, things that we've been reporting
[01:01:05] for years. I know I was on your show uh
[01:01:08] just this summer focusing quite a bit of
[01:01:10] time on our governor Tim Walls. Uh many
[01:01:13] things to talk about there, but not so
[01:01:14] much this Somali fraud, and you can
[01:01:16] actually call it that now. I think that
[01:01:18] that's uh that's just something we've
[01:01:20] been uh able to do. It seems like these
[01:01:22] these last couple couple months, but um
[01:01:24] a lot to say on that topic. We're
[01:01:26] talking about billions of dollars uh in
[01:01:28] fraud. We've been hearing10 billion
[01:01:30] dollars plus uh at this point. I think
[01:01:33] it's hard to even pinpoint an exact
[01:01:35] amount u at the moment. Um I think we're
[01:01:38] actually going to hear more uh this week
[01:01:39] on just that number. But these social
[01:01:41] programs either being shut down now alto
[01:01:43] together moratoriums put in place as
[01:01:46] enrollies in some programs. They've
[01:01:48] jumped by 200 300%
[01:01:51] just in the last few years. Um perhaps
[01:01:54] your listeners have heard about the the
[01:01:56] feeding our future fraud that got a lot
[01:01:58] of attention while Governor Walls was on
[01:02:00] the national stage as a vice
[01:02:02] presidential candidate, but that alone
[01:02:04] was a $250 million fraud. 78 people
[01:02:08] charged so far, the largest co fraud in
[01:02:11] the country. Uh by and large Somali
[01:02:14] defendants in in that case. So they were
[01:02:15] setting up these fake meal sites,
[01:02:17] pocketing millions of dollars, feeding
[01:02:19] fake kids essentially. But this actually
[01:02:22] came a couple of years after a hundred
[01:02:25] million dollar daycare fraud. So this is
[01:02:28] daycare centers again set up. It's kind
[01:02:30] of the the same playbook again and
[01:02:31] again. These daycarees set up fake kids
[01:02:36] uh millions of dollars in in fraud. Um I
[01:02:39] I want to say also we've been just
[01:02:41] inundated with with tips about all kinds
[01:02:43] of places that have been set up uh for
[01:02:45] years and we just checked some of these
[01:02:47] out this week. We've been doing a lot of
[01:02:48] reporting uh on fraud, but these are
[01:02:51] autism centers, daycare centers, adult
[01:02:54] daycare centers. Nobody has ever heard
[01:02:56] of uh what the heck is an adult daycare,
[01:02:58] uh medical clinics. Just recently, we
[01:03:01] made a dozen stops. And I'll be honest,
[01:03:03] Tucker, I think all of them, every
[01:03:05] single stop we made in checking out
[01:03:06] these businesses. This was during
[01:03:08] business hours. we see no kids, no
[01:03:10] people, uh or in some case we were just
[01:03:12] chased off the property alto together as
[01:03:14] it seems that uh perhaps uh people are
[01:03:16] paying more attention. But you can you
[01:03:18] can see it for yourself. There's
[01:03:21] websites you just check how much uh DHS,
[01:03:23] the Department of Human Services in
[01:03:24] Minnesota are giving these businesses.
[01:03:27] Uh but boom, no clients um or again
[01:03:31] closed altogether during business hours
[01:03:33] posted on their their doors. It's it's
[01:03:35] so open. It seems so pervasive. And I
[01:03:38] will say that that taxpayers are uh
[01:03:41] absolutely sick of seeing this. We've
[01:03:42] even done some stories recently. You
[01:03:44] have some neighboring businesses to
[01:03:45] these fake businesses that are setting
[01:03:48] up surveillance cameras and actually
[01:03:50] rolling just to say, you know, there's
[01:03:53] no kids going in and out of this
[01:03:54] business. Who do I give this this video
[01:03:56] to? Um they're stealing from us, you
[01:03:58] know, right across the the street. And
[01:04:00] we've been profiling uh those stories at
[01:04:02] at alphaenews.org. We actually have a
[01:04:04] specially special fraud page dedicated
[01:04:07] to all these stories. So, they're all in
[01:04:09] in one place. But it it's pretty amazing
[01:04:11] to see as people are taking this into
[01:04:13] their their own hands uh as as it seems
[01:04:15] the governor um is just trying to kind
[01:04:17] of pivot. He's running for reelection uh
[01:04:19] now here in in Minnesota. Um but I think
[01:04:22] this will go go down in history
[01:04:24] certainly as um perhaps the the largest
[01:04:27] fraud uh in in the country. And I will
[01:04:30] say that the these stops we just made uh
[01:04:32] Tucker were were recent. So you can tell
[01:04:34] that the fraud certainly has not stopped
[01:04:36] uh in the state of Minnesota.
[01:04:38] >> Is it fair to call this Somali fraud? I
[01:04:40] mean these are these are immigrants who
[01:04:43] speak a language most Americans don't
[01:04:44] speak and they're tribal in their
[01:04:47] orientation and so I guess it makes
[01:04:48] sense. But I just want to check with
[01:04:49] you. This is primarily Somali fraud.
[01:04:52] Fraud committed by Somali.
[01:04:54] >> Yeah. O overwhelmingly, I mean, I was
[01:04:57] just talking about the the 78 defendants
[01:04:59] in in Feeding Our Future. Um, primarily
[01:05:02] all uh Somali um just a conversation
[01:05:05] recently with the commercial real estate
[01:05:07] broker. She told me she's she's still
[01:05:09] being contacted constantly by members of
[01:05:10] the Somali community looking to rent
[01:05:12] office space of any kind. They're
[01:05:14] basically saying, "We need an address
[01:05:16] just in case we get audited by by the
[01:05:18] state." They're actually that uh open
[01:05:20] about what they're doing. And just uh
[01:05:23] talking about kind of echoing what what
[01:05:24] Steve said as well, we went to many of
[01:05:26] these addresses and and have you always
[01:05:29] see a luxury vehicle perhaps parked in
[01:05:31] the the parking lot um you know with uh
[01:05:34] with one or two people in inside of
[01:05:35] business if there's anyone uh at all or
[01:05:38] perhaps they're you know living in in
[01:05:40] very nice uh properties 5 $600,000 homes
[01:05:44] uh luxury vehicles and you know that
[01:05:46] that address will be getting um you know
[01:05:48] tens of of thousands sometimes hundreds
[01:05:50] of thousands of of taxpayer
[01:05:52] dollars um through these these
[01:05:53] reimbursement programs. Uh but but I
[01:05:56] counted um just before uh coming on the
[01:05:59] show here uh looks to be now six
[01:06:02] separate uh investigations launched on a
[01:06:04] federal level. US Treasury Secretary, uh
[01:06:07] the Walls administration has heard from
[01:06:09] Transportation Secretary, the Education
[01:06:11] Secretary, uh the Department of Justice,
[01:06:14] the Agriculture Secretary, they're
[01:06:15] looking at the the SNAP data in in
[01:06:18] Minnesota, welfare fraud, and the House
[01:06:20] Oversight uh committee as Steve was was
[01:06:22] speaking um about as well. So, I've just
[01:06:26] never seen this all come uh all at once.
[01:06:28] And this is all um about fraud in some
[01:06:31] way, shape, or form in in Minnesota.
[01:06:34] It's such an abuse, such an insult to
[01:06:36] the generosity of the United States that
[01:06:38] took these people in not because we
[01:06:39] needed them. We didn't. Brought them in
[01:06:41] as refugees because we're nice people,
[01:06:43] paid for everything, cuz we're generous.
[01:06:45] And then to be defrauded by those same
[01:06:47] people is is too insulting to take. It
[01:06:50] doesn't really make sense that the state
[01:06:52] government didn't know this was going on
[01:06:53] because daycare centers, autism centers,
[01:06:56] I mean, these are all inspected all the
[01:06:58] time. I mean, restaurants are inspected,
[01:07:00] hair salons are inspected. Nobody from
[01:07:02] the state noticed you at a daycare
[01:07:03] center with no kids in it.
[01:07:06] >> Yeah, that's what we've been finding out
[01:07:07] through this process that that's what
[01:07:09] one would think that there are there are
[01:07:10] inspections, but you can see even see in
[01:07:12] a lot of these records that in fact the
[01:07:14] the last inspection would have been a
[01:07:15] year ago. The last inspection would have
[01:07:17] been 18 months ago. Um, and there'll be
[01:07:19] all kinds of excuses during these site
[01:07:21] visits as to, you know, perhaps why
[01:07:23] clients aren't there. And so we're
[01:07:24] hearing on the the state level on the
[01:07:26] DHS side that there are not enough
[01:07:28] employees to to really check this out.
[01:07:31] Uh one program recently that was uh shut
[01:07:34] down uh alto together. They had new
[01:07:37] license applications grow by 283%
[01:07:41] just in a matter of a few years. Uh
[01:07:44] there's also now this two-year
[01:07:45] moratorium very similar on adult
[01:07:47] daycarees growing similarly to 300%.
[01:07:51] Um, but I still have a hard time um, you
[01:07:55] know, saying that that people at the top
[01:07:57] did were not aware of this. In fact,
[01:07:58] we've heard uh, from some
[01:07:59] whistleblowers. They've been running um,
[01:08:02] an an account on on X basically trying
[01:08:04] to get as much attention as they can uh,
[01:08:06] to this fraud. I think it was in October
[01:08:08] of 2022 when they started actually this
[01:08:10] this account and and tweeting. And
[01:08:12] they've now said just more recently that
[01:08:14] they approached uh, Governor Walls. He's
[01:08:16] been in office now for for seven years
[01:08:18] in Minnesota. They approached him very
[01:08:20] early on in his administration to say,
[01:08:21] "We need to meet with you. There's a lot
[01:08:23] of red flags we're seeing in a lot of
[01:08:24] these Medicaid programs." And uh they
[01:08:27] were met with with silence and they
[01:08:29] recently made uh those allegations as as
[01:08:31] part of this uh account on social media.
[01:08:33] And we're in touch with a lot of these
[01:08:34] whistleblowers as well and have done
[01:08:36] some interviews and that's uh that's
[01:08:38] really what's interesting is the people
[01:08:39] who have been vocal or pushed back or
[01:08:42] said, you know, there's this or or
[01:08:43] there's this uh red flag. they've faced
[01:08:46] they they say um through through our
[01:08:48] stories retaliation for bringing this
[01:08:50] forward. Uh again, we've seen uh similar
[01:08:53] to to what Steve was talking about race
[01:08:54] being weaponized uh in all of this. Our
[01:08:57] attorney general Keith Ellison actually
[01:09:00] is caught on camera, if you will, in a
[01:09:02] in a recording, I should say an audio
[01:09:04] recording meeting with some of the
[01:09:06] defendants at the time of Feeding Our
[01:09:08] Future before they were charged. Uh but
[01:09:10] they were talking about how they were
[01:09:11] starting to see, you know, some of this
[01:09:13] money uh being being turned off or they
[01:09:16] were struggling to get reimbursement at
[01:09:17] some of these, you know, fake sites.
[01:09:19] They're not saying that they're they're
[01:09:20] fake in the the conversation. Uh but
[01:09:22] right away, you hear uh the attorney
[01:09:25] general, the you know, top law
[01:09:26] enforcement officer in Minnesota say,
[01:09:28] you know, we're going to get this uh
[01:09:29] taken care of. Uh you know, Walls
[01:09:31] doesn't like to hear about this this
[01:09:32] either. And this is the attorney general
[01:09:34] representing the state side of things.
[01:09:36] uh really wild to hear in his own words
[01:09:38] this meeting uh that took place and uh
[01:09:41] that that has since gone gone viral
[01:09:43] again in this case. But that's what's
[01:09:44] also I think uh really enlightening as
[01:09:47] we have had uh different than than what
[01:09:49] we're hearing about in Maine. There's
[01:09:51] been so many cases now and we're able to
[01:09:53] hear from these defendants in their own
[01:09:55] words and I will say they say things
[01:09:57] like, you know, this is our culture.
[01:09:59] This this is what we do. This is what
[01:10:01] they're saying in in open court and it's
[01:10:03] part of the the the case. the media
[01:10:05] won't focus on on that, of course, or or
[01:10:07] they'll say that this was our American
[01:10:09] dream, that they think in a way that
[01:10:11] they're entitled um to to this this
[01:10:13] money. Uh recently, I featured a story
[01:10:16] um talking to to a man who hired one of
[01:10:19] the defendants in in feeding our future.
[01:10:21] She worked for his uh insurance agency
[01:10:24] uh in in the Twin Cities for just a few
[01:10:26] weeks. She forged a $30,000 check to
[01:10:28] herself. He obviously calls the police.
[01:10:30] She's fired. She's charged. not not
[01:10:34] doesn't go to jail or anything. Uh it's
[01:10:35] about a year later she leaves a bribe uh
[01:10:38] on the doorstep of one of the jurors
[01:10:41] involved in the the feeding our future
[01:10:42] case. So this was $200,000 that was
[01:10:45] supposed to be left for this juror. She
[01:10:47] herself takes $80,000 from that bribe,
[01:10:50] leaves $120,000 in a Hallmark gift bag
[01:10:54] outside uh a juror's uh doorstep. the
[01:10:57] juror, you know, calls it in and and
[01:11:00] basically, you know, the the the juror
[01:11:01] is then switched out during during the
[01:11:03] case. But this is absolutely wild. And
[01:11:05] to this day, this woman uh who who is
[01:11:08] now charged for the jury bribe as well
[01:11:10] and has gone on to then commit two more
[01:11:12] felonies is still uh not behind bars in
[01:11:15] in Minnesota. So, it really speaks to,
[01:11:17] you know, this so-called uh justice
[01:11:20] system uh that's in play here.
[01:11:23] What have Democratic politicians said
[01:11:25] about this? And have any Somali leaders
[01:11:28] apologized for it, for defrauding the
[01:11:30] country that was so generous to them?
[01:11:33] >> No, it's uh it's deflection day in and
[01:11:35] day out. I think you you showed at the
[01:11:37] top of your monologue here so much
[01:11:38] pandering that we're seeing on a on a
[01:11:40] daily basis. Uh Mayor Fry can't go to
[01:11:43] enough uh Somali restaurants. uh that
[01:11:46] that's what that's basically how he's
[01:11:48] spending his time and then apologizing
[01:11:50] again and again to the the Somali
[01:11:52] community. Um and we've had some uh
[01:11:55] reporting just just reporting from uh
[01:11:57] this month in fact you know now we are
[01:12:00] okay to you know it seems to almost
[01:12:02] print this but it's 90% of Somali homes
[01:12:05] uh with children in Minnesota are on
[01:12:07] welfare so that's 90% uh 73% of Somali
[01:12:12] house households in Minnesota have at
[01:12:13] least one member on Medicaid so that's
[01:12:17] compared to 21% of of native households
[01:12:19] in in Minnesota and that was a report
[01:12:21] that came out just this month and I I
[01:12:22] don't think before all of this this
[01:12:24] report would have received um any
[01:12:27] attention at all.
[01:12:28] >> There's so there's just rampant taking.
[01:12:32] Just show up in a country and just take
[01:12:33] as much as you can from other people and
[01:12:36] if they complain, call them racist.
[01:12:37] That's I mean that's the picture you're
[01:12:38] painting.
[01:12:41] >> Yeah. I I will say, you know, I know
[01:12:42] that when we were speaking this summer,
[01:12:44] we talked quite a bit about the the
[01:12:46] George Floyd lie that was perpetuated
[01:12:48] here in Minnesota as well. And I think
[01:12:51] that, you know, if you line up sort of
[01:12:52] the the timing, that's 2020, of course,
[01:12:54] and this um kind of started, I would
[01:12:57] say, 2017, 2018. Um some reporting back
[01:13:01] then, literally um there would be
[01:13:04] millions of dollars uh carded off um TSA
[01:13:08] agents have have talked to us [snorts]
[01:13:09] about this, but millions of dollars in
[01:13:11] carry-on luggage um going through the
[01:13:14] the the checkpoints at at MSP, the the
[01:13:17] airport here. these people would be
[01:13:19] photographed, you know, that the
[01:13:21] carry-on luggage would be photographed,
[01:13:22] all the paperwork filled out and that
[01:13:24] the thought was that this money was
[01:13:26] going to Somalia. This was back in back
[01:13:28] in 2018, but it was kind of they even
[01:13:30] have said, "How dare you ask questions?
[01:13:32] You know, this is this is racist." So,
[01:13:34] I've been in touch with some of these
[01:13:35] TSA agents even more recently again as
[01:13:38] well as they're talking about, you know,
[01:13:40] kind of connecting the dots that, oh my
[01:13:42] gosh, this has been going on so much
[01:13:44] longer than than just, you know, the
[01:13:46] these last few months and people really
[01:13:49] need to to get at this and and stop
[01:13:51] this. And um and I I'll just say just it
[01:13:55] doesn't seem as if anybody on, you know,
[01:13:58] a local level here seems to be taking it
[01:14:00] seriously. But again, this is a these
[01:14:02] are all positions controlled by by
[01:14:04] Democrats in in Minnesota when uh you
[01:14:07] know, we're talking about Maine, the the
[01:14:08] seven years uh very similar to to what
[01:14:11] has transpired here in in Minnesota
[01:14:13] these last seven years.
[01:14:14] >> So, let me uh finish this by asking the
[01:14:16] same qu question I finished my
[01:14:18] conversation with Steve Robinson with,
[01:14:21] which is where's the rest of the media
[01:14:23] in the state? Where's the Star Tribune?
[01:14:24] I mean you had it's a pretty big state
[01:14:26] certainly relative to Maine and you had
[01:14:28] established media outlets there for like
[01:14:31] over a hundred years. How are they
[01:14:33] covering this?
[01:14:36] >> Also very very similar um it's uh kind
[01:14:39] of opposite world is how I just describe
[01:14:42] it. You know I spent myself at 15 years
[01:14:44] nearly at the the CBS affiliate um in uh
[01:14:48] in Minneapolis and partly why I left
[01:14:50] into independent journalism. they just
[01:14:52] would not tell the truth about about
[01:14:53] anything, including including this
[01:14:55] story. But you also even have the the
[01:14:56] Star Tribune. Um, it's a former uh Walls
[01:15:00] commissioner who's now running the the
[01:15:01] Star Tribune in in Steve Groves.
[01:15:03] Basically, they should just now move
[01:15:05] into, you know, Walls's office. I think
[01:15:07] it would just be easier. Um, there's not
[01:15:10] much transparency there as to to that
[01:15:12] relationship. Um, but it's it's really
[01:15:15] frustrating, but I think that there has
[01:15:17] been, you know, a breakthrough with this
[01:15:19] this national attention. And I think
[01:15:20] it's going to be very interesting to to
[01:15:21] see what happens. And and also with uh
[01:15:24] the congresswoman, Congresswoman Ilhan
[01:15:26] Omar's citizenship. Um she married her
[01:15:29] brother. The allegations stand to grant
[01:15:32] him citizenship. Um but and we there was
[01:15:36] a three-part uh documentary produced
[01:15:38] back in 2019 by Alpha News. I encourage
[01:15:40] people you can check that out. Uh Liz
[01:15:42] Colin um where I am on X, but I just
[01:15:45] recently tweeted about that again. But
[01:15:46] here's all this documentation showing
[01:15:48] this relationship. Um that was also
[01:15:51] ignored uh years ago and also some new
[01:15:53] what I would consider you know bombshell
[01:15:55] allegations that in fact allegations
[01:15:57] that Omar herself is not a legal citizen
[01:16:00] after changing her birth year on uh her
[01:16:04] records. Um so that's a really
[01:16:06] interesting story that that recently
[01:16:08] came to light as well. but changing her
[01:16:10] birth date um from 1981 to 1982. For the
[01:16:14] longest time, she maintained she she got
[01:16:17] her citizenship naturalized through her
[01:16:19] father at the age of 17. Well, when you
[01:16:21] check out her documents,
[01:16:24] it basically was saying that she was 18
[01:16:26] by the time, you know, that that would
[01:16:27] have happened. Uh so, a woman brings
[01:16:29] this to light. Two days later, the
[01:16:31] congresswoman changes her birth date on
[01:16:34] all of her records online. two days um
[01:16:37] after that that took place and um that
[01:16:40] has now been uh kicked up in in the
[01:16:43] media again. You know, is this
[01:16:45] congresswoman even a US citizen? And she
[01:16:47] has yet to actually produce any type of
[01:16:50] documentation
[01:16:51] um you know, her naturalization records
[01:16:54] uh at all. And I and I will say that,
[01:16:56] you know, we're we're all journalists
[01:16:58] over at Alpha News. We've contacted the
[01:17:00] governor multiple times, the attorney
[01:17:02] general multiple times on fraud,
[01:17:04] congresswoman uh Omar as well, and they
[01:17:07] will not uh talk to us. Um we're
[01:17:10] definitely blacklisted in the world of
[01:17:12] of media in in Minnesota. Tucker,
[01:17:15] >> man, you wonder where this is going. Liz
[01:17:18] Colin, thank you for the work you've
[01:17:20] done, which is serious and rigorous and
[01:17:22] obviously essential and also brave. So,
[01:17:25] it's great to see you. Thank you very
[01:17:26] much.
[01:17:27] >> Thank you, Tucker. Imagine
[01:17:30] living in a country where there's just
[01:17:31] zero tolerance for this. That's not
[01:17:33] hate. Actually, it's a form of love.
[01:17:36] Setting standards, decent, universal
[01:17:38] standards that apply to everyone, no
[01:17:40] matter what they look like or who they
[01:17:42] vote for. That is the promise of the
[01:17:44] United States. And it's just evaporating
[01:17:46] without comment. But we can't let it.
[01:17:49] Thanks very much. We'll be back.
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