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[00:00:00] All right, you guys. I feel like today
[00:00:01] is a probably a very great day to
[00:00:03] discuss homosexuality. Okay, so I grew
[00:00:05] up in the '9s and we were taught in
[00:00:09] school that some people are born gay.
[00:00:10] The older that I get and I speak to
[00:00:13] people who struggle with homosexuality
[00:00:16] or live out homosexual lives and
[00:00:18] actually the majority of them don't
[00:00:19] think they were born gay. They typically
[00:00:21] will correlate their homosexuality to
[00:00:24] some event that's happened in their
[00:00:25] past. Well, I'm want to discuss this
[00:00:27] theme today because virtually everything
[00:00:29] that I'm reading right now, whether it's
[00:00:31] Hollywood Babylon or getting into Sigman
[00:00:33] Freud and the history of Jewish
[00:00:35] mysticism, there is some element of
[00:00:38] homosexuality. Um, is this a part of an
[00:00:40] occultic practice? Has homosexuality
[00:00:43] been pushed upon our society because it
[00:00:45] is disordering? Are we even allowed to
[00:00:47] say that on YouTube? Anyways, here to
[00:00:49] join me, Milo Yiannopoulos. Let me start
[00:00:52] from the beginning here.
[00:00:52] >> I want to say I've never struggled with
[00:00:54] homosexuality. I was brilliant at it. Um
[00:00:57] from day one, but but it did occur to me
[00:01:01] five years ago that um hell was real and
[00:01:03] I don't want to go.
[00:01:04] >> So you say you're a reformed or a
[00:01:06] recovered homosexual.
[00:01:08] >> I say exgay because it sounds hilarious,
[00:01:10] but the truth
[00:01:11] >> exgay does sound good.
[00:01:12] >> It's good, isn't it? Um uh but the the
[00:01:14] truth is um as far as I've got so far is
[00:01:17] celibacy. And um the good thing about
[00:01:19] the male libido is the less you have
[00:01:21] less you have, less you want. So, I I'm
[00:01:23] I I never thought that I would be happy
[00:01:26] kind of not really having sexual
[00:01:28] activity, per se, but but but that's
[00:01:30] it's fine. And now I'm into the uh
[00:01:32] messy, difficult, and um terrifying
[00:01:34] business of casting my eye over the
[00:01:37] female population. It's probably more
[00:01:38] terrifying for them than it is for me.
[00:01:40] Um uh uh and and figuring out if there's
[00:01:43] anybody there uh who who, you know,
[00:01:46] could be quiet for long enough to be my
[00:01:47] wife. Um uh I'm just kidding, of course.
[00:01:49] But uh you know it it's it's um it has
[00:01:54] nagged at me and irritated me uh since I
[00:01:57] came back to my faith, the Catholic
[00:01:59] faith. Um that I wasn't able to
[00:02:01] participate in that last holy sacrament,
[00:02:04] you know. Um I I was confirmed very late
[00:02:07] in life actually. Um and it's a it's a
[00:02:09] blessing to be able to not just remember
[00:02:11] it, but to have had a very fancy affair.
[00:02:14] I had, you know, I had the full I had
[00:02:15] the full Latin, you know, Institute of
[00:02:18] Christ the King. um you know uh um they
[00:02:20] do they do a conditional baptism. You
[00:02:22] get exercised three times on the way
[00:02:23] into the church. You have to get on your
[00:02:24] knees and you go in. You go in, you go
[00:02:26] in. So converts normally have this but
[00:02:27] um if you have a conditional baptism
[00:02:29] make you do this as an adult. You have
[00:02:30] to um uh read the Our Father and a few
[00:02:33] other things in Latin. And then uh
[00:02:34] confirmation is you know over very
[00:02:36] quickly. Um, it was beautiful and it was
[00:02:39] lovely to be able to have that as an
[00:02:40] adult and um, it was a very important
[00:02:42] part of my uh, return to to as close to
[00:02:47] faithful Catholic life as I can I can
[00:02:49] get. I think it's probably safe to say.
[00:02:51] Um,
[00:02:52] but it was bugging me that um,
[00:02:57] I wasn't able to participate in
[00:02:58] something that everybody should. And
[00:03:00] there's something very magical and very
[00:03:03] special about not just marriage but
[00:03:05] about uh children because it is um the
[00:03:08] time before you die before you get to
[00:03:10] heaven where you get to uh do something
[00:03:12] with our Lord. You get to it's called
[00:03:14] co-procreation. Uh two people make the
[00:03:16] baby um biologically but uh our Lord
[00:03:19] puts a soul in there. And so
[00:03:20] co-procation with God is, you know, you
[00:03:22] haven't just made love with your husband
[00:03:24] and you haven't or your wife. You
[00:03:25] haven't just seen um you haven't just um
[00:03:28] uh uh created a baby, but you have you
[00:03:31] have participated in creation with God.
[00:03:34] Like, you know, like that's huge. Um and
[00:03:36] and it's and it's it's something that
[00:03:38] men can do even if they can't uh um bear
[00:03:40] children, you know, they still get to do
[00:03:42] that. And and I don't know, I just one
[00:03:45] one the truth is it's not a very good
[00:03:46] answer, but it sort of crept up on me.
[00:03:48] Truth is one day I woke up and I I I I
[00:03:50] remember the
[00:03:52] short chain of thought I had and it's
[00:03:54] what I said a moment ago. Hell is real
[00:03:56] and I don't want to go.
[00:03:58] >> Just like that.
[00:03:58] >> Yeah.
[00:03:59] >> It's very interesting because like I
[00:04:02] said, I grew up and you learn in school,
[00:04:05] if you go to the public school system,
[00:04:06] that some people are gay, some people
[00:04:07] are straight, and we need to normalize
[00:04:10] homosexuality. That's why we have terms
[00:04:12] like homophobic, which I don't know what
[00:04:14] that means. I guess it means you're
[00:04:15] scared of of gay people down the street.
[00:04:17] be afraid afraid of getting uh
[00:04:19] trafficked to a homosexual couple.
[00:04:20] Homophobia is pretty rational if you're
[00:04:22] a you're a vulnerable uh young young
[00:04:25] foster kid or something.
[00:04:26] >> Um
[00:04:27] >> but I think about this now and having
[00:04:29] read I asked you to read this book ahead
[00:04:31] of this discussion, but having read
[00:04:32] Hollywood Babylon and getting into
[00:04:34] Sigman Freud and the sort of mystical
[00:04:36] tradition, it's really interesting
[00:04:37] because we of course have no memory of
[00:04:39] what happened on this earth before we
[00:04:40] were here. And I think I sort of assumed
[00:04:43] obviously very wrongly um that there was
[00:04:45] always this kind of current of
[00:04:47] homosexuality in American culture. But
[00:04:49] it actually happened quite quickly. And
[00:04:51] beyond quite quickly, it also happened
[00:04:53] quite intentionally when you take a look
[00:04:55] at the establishment of Hollywood and
[00:04:59] them thinking through how to infect the
[00:05:02] Christian culture in America. and and
[00:05:04] and and that that had happened a few
[00:05:07] different times in in different ways uh
[00:05:10] elsewhere in the history of western
[00:05:11] civilization. But but really really
[00:05:13] prior to I mean prior to the middle ages
[00:05:14] that homosexuality is sort of complet
[00:05:15] conceived of completely differently in
[00:05:16] the same way that races you know um uh
[00:05:19] you know people living in 1100 would
[00:05:21] just have no idea what we were talking
[00:05:22] about. We were talking about somebody
[00:05:23] being white or not white uh in in the
[00:05:25] American way. Um but the the the
[00:05:30] most recent explosion of this, funnily
[00:05:32] enough, happened in a in a way it was
[00:05:34] kind of a test run for what the media
[00:05:35] later did with Trump. Um the first I
[00:05:38] think um
[00:05:40] a full assault full media assault
[00:05:44] uh like what they did to Trump, like
[00:05:45] what they did on January 6th was about
[00:05:48] conversion therapy uh in the 80s. And uh
[00:05:51] at that time, you know, after after
[00:05:53] maybe half a century of this stuff uh uh
[00:05:55] you know, digging in after the 19 the
[00:05:57] 1910s, 20s and 30s in Hollywood, you
[00:05:59] know, um uh half a century has passed
[00:06:01] and people still think homosexuals are
[00:06:04] um are are dirty and and sleazy and uh
[00:06:07] and it's a a moral choice and this a
[00:06:10] moral and we can't get over this hurdle.
[00:06:11] So what the campaigners um came up with
[00:06:13] was well if it's hang on a second if
[00:06:16] it's like being black or if it's like
[00:06:18] being a woman then if somebody doesn't
[00:06:20] like it they're a bigot that works. So
[00:06:23] the um born this way mythology was
[00:06:26] created to meet ideological objectives
[00:06:29] out of whole cloth and it has never been
[00:06:32] um even remotely demonstrated by
[00:06:34] science. the the closest that anybody
[00:06:36] will truthfully get is say um there
[00:06:38] appear to be some people who have some
[00:06:41] sort of predispositions maybe um but it
[00:06:44] is vastly more to do with nurture than
[00:06:47] it is to do with nature and in any case
[00:06:49] even if you are one of those people that
[00:06:50] just pops out you know um in sequence
[00:06:53] seeing Mariah Carey
[00:06:55] um it is possible to overcome what our
[00:06:59] disordered
[00:07:01] urges they call it unwanted samesex
[00:07:03] attraction is I think it's the PC term
[00:07:05] that Egyp is right with. Um it is
[00:07:07] possible to uh even though you may be
[00:07:10] suffering with what is a terrible curse
[00:07:12] um not do it.
[00:07:14] >> You know what's interesting because I've
[00:07:15] had to reconsider that my childhood
[00:07:18] programming on this but I love I love
[00:07:19] that you call it the born this way
[00:07:20] mythology. That's a great way of saying
[00:07:21] it because that's that's what it was.
[00:07:23] You're born this way
[00:07:24] >> and mythology is propaganda. You know
[00:07:26] it's political propaganda.
[00:07:26] >> It is political propaganda. And I think
[00:07:28] that the the best example of that
[00:07:29] currently because we're living through
[00:07:31] that is this insistence that people are
[00:07:33] born trans and you can see how they
[00:07:36] infect that propaganda how it starts um
[00:07:39] and thinking about Hollywood thinking
[00:07:40] about Hollywood how it starts with the
[00:07:42] television screens and I am jazz was
[00:07:45] sort of the first time that they did
[00:07:46] this to TLC show. I don't know if you're
[00:07:48] familiar with this and it was and they
[00:07:49] said actually jazz is trans and it
[00:07:53] became this cultural phenomenon got so
[00:07:55] much coverage
[00:07:56] >> and nobody tells you the end point and
[00:07:58] the struggles that jazz is facing today
[00:08:00] and they were able to get all of these
[00:08:02] kids. I grew up nobody was trans and now
[00:08:04] all of a sudden you have all of these
[00:08:05] parents who are convinced that their
[00:08:07] children are born.
[00:08:09] >> You said it exactly right. People are
[00:08:11] always amazed at the horrors that
[00:08:13] parents can do to their own children,
[00:08:15] but they shouldn't be because um people
[00:08:17] do all kinds of terrible things to their
[00:08:18] kids. Uh you know, whether it's uh
[00:08:20] everyday neglect or it's or it's
[00:08:22] something more serious and more
[00:08:23] dramatic. The trans thing uh fixed a
[00:08:27] really big problem for the parents of uh
[00:08:30] gay kids or kids who show signs of those
[00:08:33] sorts of behaviors early on uh which
[00:08:36] lots do because the damage happens
[00:08:37] early. fixed a big problem, which is
[00:08:40] what did I do wrong? Because if you if
[00:08:42] you don't have a gay child that you
[00:08:44] messed up, but instead have a trans
[00:08:46] child who has a problem, who has a
[00:08:48] disease, who has a syndrome, who has
[00:08:50] something wrong with them, then you're
[00:08:51] off the hook.
[00:08:52] >> You're not bad parents. Um, in fact,
[00:08:54] you're victims because your kid has got
[00:08:57] this thing that nobody would ever want
[00:08:58] for their own child. And so you are you
[00:09:00] become brave and you become a hero and
[00:09:02] you and your child becomes the crucible
[00:09:05] in which your you know your social
[00:09:07] anxieties about about having messed up
[00:09:09] as a parent and made your kid gay, which
[00:09:11] is what you did, um are are resolved and
[00:09:14] and sanctified because um in fact all of
[00:09:17] these kids who are seized and mutilated
[00:09:21] uh if they were left alone would be what
[00:09:24] we would call, you know, like gay men.
[00:09:26] Um and and if if if without the um
[00:09:31] without the interference, without the uh
[00:09:33] injection into the process of these uh
[00:09:35] crazed trans campaigners, they would
[00:09:37] have a hope of a way out. But once
[00:09:40] you've started chopping things off, you
[00:09:42] create so many psychological and body
[00:09:45] image problems that you you're no longer
[00:09:46] just dealing with the fact that you had
[00:09:48] an overbearing mother, an absent father,
[00:09:50] and you didn't form um uh um sustainable
[00:09:55] platonic relationships with men as a as
[00:09:57] a young boy, and and and something went
[00:09:59] wrong in your head, you know, or or that
[00:10:01] you got raped. Uh and and and and that
[00:10:03] and it happened because of it could
[00:10:04] happen for any mixture or all of those
[00:10:06] reasons. Um I had a bit of all of them.
[00:10:08] Uh once you start chopping part of that
[00:10:12] person off, you cut them off from
[00:10:15] salvation. You cut them off from
[00:10:17] redemption. You cut them off from hope.
[00:10:19] Because if you can stop doing that
[00:10:21] stuff, at least you're still you and and
[00:10:24] and you have potential and possibility
[00:10:26] and you could do and be anything as long
[00:10:28] as you're still like, you know, in
[00:10:29] possession of your health, your
[00:10:30] faculties, your whatever. But once you
[00:10:32] start mutilating somebody because um uh
[00:10:35] because parents find it easier to
[00:10:36] believe their kids have a disease, which
[00:10:38] is not their fault, then they messed up
[00:10:39] as parents and that they're gay. Um even
[00:10:42] if you were able to somehow switch the
[00:10:46] trajectory of your desire from one one
[00:10:48] sex to another, which does happen, uh
[00:10:50] it's not, you know, not everybody who
[00:10:51] goes in conversion therapy uh wins.
[00:10:54] It's, you know, best case scenario, you
[00:10:55] got like a one in five chance. It's not
[00:10:57] good odds. It's better than cancer, but
[00:10:58] it's not great. Um,
[00:11:00] if you start cutting things off
[00:11:02] immediately, there's there's nowhere to
[00:11:04] come home to. And the problem that gay
[00:11:06] uh kids have is that they they they
[00:11:09] start early on being different people in
[00:11:12] front of different audiences. So, they
[00:11:14] know that, for instance, they can't um
[00:11:15] be their sassy selves in front of their
[00:11:17] grandparents, let's say, because they're
[00:11:18] they're whatever. And and this this
[00:11:20] eventually unchecked becomes a kind of
[00:11:23] fractured personality which uh is the
[00:11:26] bedrock reason why um gay people are are
[00:11:29] you know always so dishonest and always
[00:11:31] so always up to stuff you know because
[00:11:33] they have these competing identities
[00:11:35] that are not reconciled and they are are
[00:11:37] playing characters in front of different
[00:11:39] people who become almost like
[00:11:41] fullyfledged people in their own right
[00:11:43] and it is a kind of I mean it's you know
[00:11:46] lay person schizophrenia it's not it's
[00:11:47] not schizophrenia but it's it it becomes
[00:11:49] disorientating and it becomes
[00:11:51] debilitating and and and you you what
[00:11:54] you're able to do if you have different
[00:11:56] people you can lean into and lean out of
[00:11:58] um like an actor but but in real life
[00:12:00] you're able to do things to those
[00:12:02] characters because they're not you and
[00:12:04] you might not know really whether you is
[00:12:05] but um uh the person the the character
[00:12:08] that is um the sexual uh person
[00:12:13] you can begin to degrade them you can
[00:12:15] begin to humiliate them you can get off
[00:12:17] on um suffering uh even if it's you
[00:12:20] because it's a role play and every
[00:12:22] because everything is in your life
[00:12:24] because uh you've you're now simply
[00:12:28] replacing one facade with another
[00:12:31] constantly everywhere you go. And so um
[00:12:34] because because your personality is kind
[00:12:36] of broken into bits uh you can at any
[00:12:38] point see any of it as not being really
[00:12:40] you and you can do awful things to it.
[00:12:42] It's so funny that you say that because
[00:12:44] somebody that I know who used to live a
[00:12:46] homosexual lifestyle and doesn't
[00:12:48] anymore, I was opening up to him about
[00:12:49] the this gay guy that we had hired a
[00:12:51] while ago who very quickly was lying to
[00:12:53] us and stealing from us. And he was
[00:12:55] fantastic at his job. We were so good to
[00:12:57] him. And the question that he asked me,
[00:12:59] he said, you know, was there something
[00:13:01] about it? He said a lot of gay men are
[00:13:03] sociopaths because they have to lie so
[00:13:05] much about who they are and what they're
[00:13:07] doing like and it shapes their brain
[00:13:09] early on and then later on in life it
[00:13:11] becomes very easy when you're lying you
[00:13:12] don't even feel like you're lying
[00:13:13] because you've nurtured this ability to
[00:13:16] be dishonest for so long.
[00:13:17] >> I I wouldn't say that it because they
[00:13:19] have to lie about who they are because
[00:13:21] there's there's there's a there's a
[00:13:22] little um there's something hidden in
[00:13:25] there. there's a little something
[00:13:26] embedded in there that suggests that
[00:13:28] maybe it's homophobia that makes them uh
[00:13:30] damaged or miserable and that's not
[00:13:32] what's going on. Um what they're doing
[00:13:35] what what people with these uh um
[00:13:39] disordered desires are doing knowing
[00:13:40] that it is wrong and it is not normal.
[00:13:42] You you know that you're supposed to be
[00:13:44] into girls. I I I had relationships with
[00:13:46] girls. I just wasn't really feeling it,
[00:13:47] you know. Um, but you feel drawn to this
[00:13:50] other thing and you know that it's wrong
[00:13:52] and it's as much wanting to distance
[00:13:55] yourself from the moral responsibility
[00:13:57] and culpability of doing it as it is
[00:14:00] presenting different faces as well. Um,
[00:14:03] that become the reason why gays have
[00:14:05] this sort of fractured personality. But
[00:14:06] it's not sociopathy. They feel things
[00:14:08] intensely there. And that hysteria is
[00:14:10] not the um shallow hysteria of um of a
[00:14:14] of a sociopathic mom who's going to
[00:14:15] drown her kid. It's different. uh
[00:14:17] they're in pain, they're hurting, that
[00:14:20] and when they cry, it's real, but
[00:14:22] they're they're bouncing between
[00:14:23] different personalities and different
[00:14:25] identities and and and your your man
[00:14:27] there. Um it was like for from his
[00:14:30] perspective it's like somebody else was
[00:14:32] doing that
[00:14:33] >> you know um like like and he is
[00:14:36] responsible and he did do it and he must
[00:14:38] have the consequences because it will
[00:14:40] help him to reintegrate and they now
[00:14:42] call conversion therapy reintegrative
[00:14:43] therapy for the reason for reasons that
[00:14:45] you will uh immediately understand
[00:14:47] having listened to me talk. um uh
[00:14:51] they need that impetus, so they need to
[00:14:53] get caught, you know. Um but it but they
[00:14:56] are in pain acting out. And very often
[00:14:57] you'll find with gays um they will do
[00:14:59] this stuff almost to get caught because
[00:15:01] they want somebody to notice that
[00:15:03] everything's not all right. And when the
[00:15:05] when the alphabetized CD collection uh
[00:15:08] perfect employee
[00:15:10] um who's kind of, you know, like, "Yes,
[00:15:12] I'll take care of that for you." Um
[00:15:14] needs you to know that they're in pain.
[00:15:16] they'll do something like steal or
[00:15:18] they'll do something like uh uh you know
[00:15:22] say or or or do something despicable,
[00:15:23] whatever. Uh they're acting out because
[00:15:25] they want to be noticed. It's a cry for
[00:15:27] help.
[00:15:27] >> So, it's interesting now when I consider
[00:15:29] it now now that I was baptized Catholic
[00:15:30] and re-examining why it is that we
[00:15:33] learned that it is this immutable
[00:15:34] characteristic. It's like being black.
[00:15:35] It's like being woman. This person is
[00:15:37] just gay and how it doesn't allow people
[00:15:40] to get better. It would be absurd.
[00:15:42] Giving a totally different example if
[00:15:43] someone is an alcoholic. If we said,
[00:15:45] "Oh, you were you were that's who you
[00:15:46] always were deep down. You were always
[00:15:48] an alcoholic. So, just keep drinking.
[00:15:49] It's totally fine." And yes, if you go
[00:15:51] to rehab, you don't have a 100% chance
[00:15:53] of getting sober. If you are taking
[00:15:56] meth, you don't have a 100% chance of
[00:15:57] getting sober. But knowing and saying to
[00:16:00] a society that this is an unhealth,
[00:16:04] >> it forecloses um Exactly. You have
[00:16:06] immediately intuited exactly the key
[00:16:08] thing about this. You got it. They don't
[00:16:10] want people.
[00:16:10] >> You got it right away. If you tell
[00:16:12] somebody that that's what they are more
[00:16:15] even than who they are,
[00:16:17] >> you're robbing them of the ability to um
[00:16:20] uh to make changes.
[00:16:21] >> Yeah. Like you're an alcoholic because
[00:16:22] it's totally a genetic trait and your
[00:16:23] dad was an alcoholic and now you're an
[00:16:24] alcoholic and it's not your fault.
[00:16:26] >> There's nothing we can do about it. You
[00:16:27] mean in a way you should probably just
[00:16:28] drink,
[00:16:29] >> right?
[00:16:30] >> And we'll deal with the consequences
[00:16:31] later. Um robbing that person maybe of
[00:16:33] the ability to get sober and to have a
[00:16:35] have a family, you know, to stop beating
[00:16:36] their wife or to get their kids back or
[00:16:38] something.
[00:16:38] >> Well, that's the main thing. That's why
[00:16:40] I think it's such an important
[00:16:41] discussion to reopen.
[00:16:42] >> It's funny because you got kids. You
[00:16:43] immediately understood. You immediately
[00:16:45] understood what the problem was. Nobody
[00:16:47] gets it. When I say like, what's the
[00:16:48] problem with telling somebody that it's
[00:16:49] what they are? I don't know. But you
[00:16:51] immediately got it because because you
[00:16:52] have children now. Um but yeah, that's
[00:16:53] what it is. It it it
[00:16:55] >> all of the pathways to to to um not I
[00:16:58] mean you said pathway to salvation. I
[00:17:00] used that kind of I used that word
[00:17:02] metaphorically earlier, but I mean it
[00:17:05] literally too. Um it's barring your way
[00:17:07] to heaven,
[00:17:08] >> right? And that's what's so wicked about
[00:17:10] it,
[00:17:10] >> right? And so you see people who have
[00:17:13] normalized this and now you have
[00:17:16] homosexual families which in in my
[00:17:19] opinion that is oxymoronic in in general
[00:17:22] because you're depriving children.
[00:17:24] >> It's a mockery. Well, what's also
[00:17:26] interesting about it though is like, you
[00:17:28] know, a lot of people get into these
[00:17:29] situations and that's why it's been
[00:17:30] fascinating for me to to know people who
[00:17:33] identify as homosexual and all of them,
[00:17:35] the one thing that is agreed upon them
[00:17:36] is that they they actually don't think
[00:17:38] they were born this way. One of them has
[00:17:40] mommy issues, says, "Okay, my mother uh
[00:17:43] was bipolar and she drove both me and my
[00:17:45] brother to never want to be around women
[00:17:46] again and now we're both choosing to be
[00:17:48] gay." Another person said, "I had daddy
[00:17:50] issues. My daddy walked out. I wasn't
[00:17:51] around him." Then I looked I I you know
[00:17:53] I saw it to have that relationship with
[00:17:55] men when I got older. You could say this
[00:17:57] even for women who can understand this
[00:17:58] in another context. A lot of the women
[00:18:00] who you will see sleep with tons of guys
[00:18:03] is because their dads weren't around. So
[00:18:04] they have daddy issues. They're they're
[00:18:06] pursuing that paternity in a really
[00:18:07] unhealthy way. And so for you, which was
[00:18:09] it?
[00:18:10] >> Well, um I always knew that it was sick
[00:18:15] and wrong
[00:18:17] um to for two men to raise a baby. And I
[00:18:21] never wanted to have any part of that.
[00:18:24] And I I feel some responsibility for
[00:18:30] um elevating
[00:18:33] uh out out what you might call out and
[00:18:35] proud homosexuality into um uh an
[00:18:38] acceptable position in right-wing
[00:18:40] politics in America. I I have I feel a
[00:18:42] lot of um I I I feel a lot of things
[00:18:44] about that uh about my personal
[00:18:47] responsibility for that. I regret it
[00:18:48] very deeply. Um because
[00:18:52] although I thought at the time I was I
[00:18:53] was being sufficiently tongue-in-cheek
[00:18:55] and subtle that people would get, you
[00:18:57] know, the the the nuances to it, they
[00:18:58] did not. Uh and you just ended up with
[00:19:00] Lady Margar. And um although I said in
[00:19:04] every speech I ever gave, if I had a
[00:19:06] button I could push to make me straight,
[00:19:07] I would. That too of course got lost. Um
[00:19:10] and and so you know the there was there
[00:19:12] was a moment when it looked like it
[00:19:14] might be a good idea if people who had
[00:19:16] this terrible affliction at least lived
[00:19:18] as close to um wholesome lives as
[00:19:21] possible. I sounds sensible, right? Uh
[00:19:24] so we go from being the taboo breaking
[00:19:27] uh drug taking promiscuous uh subculture
[00:19:30] to people are living about you know
[00:19:32] about as good as you can bas you know
[00:19:33] despite the fact that you're you know
[00:19:34] life revolves around a dysfunction or
[00:19:37] around a um a horror like that uh at
[00:19:40] least you know you don't need to like
[00:19:42] throw the rest of your life away. You
[00:19:43] could at least be healthy. You could at
[00:19:44] least you know uh whatever.
[00:19:48] Uh and and and it seemed for a while as
[00:19:51] though that was good. uh um homosexuals
[00:19:54] began to vote right-wing. They still do.
[00:19:56] Uh and so we thought for a while this is
[00:19:58] this is this this is going all right.
[00:19:59] You know, we had um we've got all the
[00:20:00] white gays voting for um the
[00:20:02] conservatives or the Republican party.
[00:20:04] Um uh you know, they're they're getting
[00:20:06] into all kinds of rows with their
[00:20:07] intersectional whatever. This is good.
[00:20:09] This is good because they're the ones
[00:20:09] who want anyway. They're, you know, the
[00:20:11] the the white gays are the good ones out
[00:20:13] of the out of the, you know, the LGBT
[00:20:15] circus and and and they ended up voting
[00:20:18] uh on the base of taxes instead of
[00:20:20] social issues. All good things. But um
[00:20:23] what what I didn't foresee which I I
[00:20:26] suppose I should have is that um
[00:20:29] three-fifths of a parody is not enough.
[00:20:33] Um and when you when you have this
[00:20:35] mockery of um the holy sacrament which
[00:20:37] is which is ultimately what it is two
[00:20:39] men living together and um uh committing
[00:20:42] a sin that um as we know is one of the
[00:20:45] sins that cries out to heaven for
[00:20:46] vengeance. you know, it is uh one of one
[00:20:48] of the things that um uh um it's it's uh
[00:20:53] St. Katherine of Sienna, I think. Um she
[00:20:55] says uh
[00:20:57] um she says that uh the demons that
[00:21:00] cause homosexual acts once they've
[00:21:04] prompted that in men don't stick around
[00:21:06] to watch because it's too disgusting. Um
[00:21:08] because they used to be angels and and
[00:21:10] and it's in in their angelic rational
[00:21:13] nature, they can't see something so
[00:21:14] gross. So they so they um uh they don't
[00:21:17] stick around to see the sin that they
[00:21:18] that they prompted. This is the level of
[00:21:20] seriousness with which the you know the
[00:21:22] church takes it, faith takes it. So it
[00:21:24] was probably foreseeable that that a uh
[00:21:27] a simulacum of married life was going to
[00:21:30] lead to something awful and it did. Um
[00:21:32] it is led to uh the widespread abuse of
[00:21:37] not just children but babies. We see
[00:21:39] stories now of babies being sexually
[00:21:42] violated by um uh by by by gay I mean
[00:21:46] the the couple who um uh Ruth Bader
[00:21:50] Ginsburg married got busted for uh child
[00:21:53] pornography I think uh sometime later.
[00:21:55] Uh all of the um
[00:21:56] >> even the speaking of sorry to cut you
[00:21:58] off but speaking of the mythology even
[00:21:59] the Matt Laram project insane. I did not
[00:22:02] learn this. My brain basically broke
[00:22:04] because it it was a part of the
[00:22:05] propaganda. Sorry, Matthew Shepard, the
[00:22:07] Laramie Project. Uh, why it was in
[00:22:10] Wyoming, I believe, and they kind of
[00:22:11] came out this mythology saying Matthew
[00:22:13] Shepard was murdered because he was gay
[00:22:16] and he was tied to offense. And this
[00:22:17] became a part of my high school
[00:22:19] indoctrination about why it was so
[00:22:20] important to let people just be gay
[00:22:21] because look what happened to Matthew
[00:22:23] Shepard.
[00:22:23] >> And that was a manufactur total
[00:22:25] manufactured thing. Actually, he was a
[00:22:28] drug adult, drug addicted. Uh, the
[00:22:30] person who killed him was was somebody
[00:22:32] that he knew and had homosexual had a
[00:22:34] homosexual relationship with. And they
[00:22:36] ran with this in order to get laws
[00:22:37] passed. They I don't know if there's
[00:22:39] ever been upon a myth.
[00:22:40] >> Has there ever been a hate crime?
[00:22:42] >> I don't know if there's ever been a hate
[00:22:44] crime. I mean, definitely like, you
[00:22:45] know, 300 years ago, uh the terrible,
[00:22:47] you know, there were atrocities
[00:22:48] happening across racial lines for for uh
[00:22:50] because there was an understanding that
[00:22:52] that people weren't people. But but has
[00:22:54] there ever really been a hate crime? Uh
[00:22:55] >> when you say yeah, when you say hate
[00:22:56] crime, it's so stupid. I'm like, has
[00:22:57] anybody ever committed a crime against
[00:22:58] someone that they love? Like, what do we
[00:22:59] mean when we even say hate crime? Well,
[00:23:01] I'm saying, you know, for your
[00:23:02] attributes, like just because you're
[00:23:04] white, I'm going to kill you.
[00:23:05] >> Has somebody pursued a homosexual across
[00:23:07] a field, tied him up and beat him? No.
[00:23:10] Come on. Um, these things,
[00:23:11] >> but they wanted us to believe that. And
[00:23:13] they taught us this in school. And there
[00:23:14] are still people I know that are
[00:23:15] watching right now that do not realize
[00:23:17] that the entire movie, the Matthew, the
[00:23:20] Matthew thing is all one big myth. But
[00:23:23] look at look at the way that um
[00:23:25] progressives will rewrite their own
[00:23:27] founding mythology to suit the uh mores
[00:23:31] of the day. You think they're not
[00:23:32] worried about lying to you? Uh is now
[00:23:35] accepted uh uh wisdom among the wokest
[00:23:39] of the gay community that it was trans
[00:23:42] people who won gay rights at Stonewall
[00:23:44] who marched. You know, it wasn't there
[00:23:46] were no no real there. It was
[00:23:47] white gays. The white gays do all the,
[00:23:49] you know, do all the the um uh the
[00:23:51] interesting stuff. They're all the
[00:23:52] fashion designers, you know, blah blah
[00:23:53] blah. Uh, but they they they've they
[00:23:55] because white gays have fallen out of
[00:23:57] fashion um with the intersectional cr
[00:23:59] now now they've they've just sort of
[00:24:00] completely rewritten who it was that
[00:24:02] participated in this, you know, civil
[00:24:04] rights event in history. They completely
[00:24:05] rewrite their own mythology with no
[00:24:08] compunction whatsoever. And they have no
[00:24:10] hesitation in lying to us about things
[00:24:12] that happened. And I think we're now
[00:24:14] seeing we did a show uh um not long ago
[00:24:18] about um one particular country that is
[00:24:22] uh guilty of you know just the most
[00:24:24] extraordinary machine gun of scups and
[00:24:26] lies and and misrepresentations just
[00:24:28] hoping that enough of it sticks you know
[00:24:31] uh it has become now the norm. Our
[00:24:35] society's is it functions not on the
[00:24:37] truth but but primarily on lies. I mean
[00:24:40] most of the things that are said in
[00:24:41] American public life on television, in
[00:24:43] newspapers, in the academy are not true.
[00:24:46] Um, and this is this is very dangerous
[00:24:48] because people with uh conditions or or
[00:24:51] or or with disorders where they're
[00:24:53] trying to figure out what's real, they
[00:24:55] have no hope in a society like this
[00:24:57] because it is now I think we live in I
[00:24:59] think we live in America in a state now
[00:25:02] of epistemological crisis where it is no
[00:25:05] longer possible for a regular person
[00:25:08] with uh access to, you know, regular
[00:25:10] people things to even figure out how
[00:25:12] they would find out if something that
[00:25:14] they heard on TV was So, if a politician
[00:25:17] tells you, um, uh, well, uh, this this
[00:25:20] bill is bad because it's going to
[00:25:21] increase the deficit to a point where
[00:25:22] the country will not recover
[00:25:23] financially, and you're like, well, I
[00:25:25] don't think money is real, but, uh, um,
[00:25:27] can't they just blah, you even if you
[00:25:30] took all the premises, there's no way to
[00:25:32] even find out. There's no way for
[00:25:34] somebody to go and find out like, is
[00:25:35] that true? Uh, who is telling me the
[00:25:38] truth out of the Republicans and
[00:25:39] Democrats or out of the neocons and the
[00:25:40] and the Mara people? Who is telling me
[00:25:42] the truth about this about this? what
[00:25:44] should be a black and white math
[00:25:46] problem. There's no way to know. And so
[00:25:49] the the the
[00:25:50] we're hopeless on things like sexuality
[00:25:52] that are so um that are not concrete,
[00:25:55] that are that are not tangible.
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[00:28:50] order. No, it's really interesting
[00:28:52] because even if you examine there are
[00:28:54] all of these founding myths like for BLM
[00:28:56] they needed to have that George Floyd
[00:28:58] thing to really set fire to everything.
[00:28:59] It's or actually before the George Floyd
[00:29:02] thing it what happened in who was it?
[00:29:03] Michael, what was the person down in
[00:29:06] Florida? I can't think of his name. It
[00:29:07] was the found Trayvon Martin
[00:29:10] >> with the Skittles
[00:29:10] >> with the with the Skittles. There's all
[00:29:11] of these founding myths and what they do
[00:29:13] is they get the media to spread it like
[00:29:14] fire and before people even know what
[00:29:16] the truth is, everybody is emotionally
[00:29:18] invested in the lies. And that's how
[00:29:19] they do it. They have to tell you a
[00:29:21] story that's borderline medieval. It's
[00:29:23] like he was chained he was chained to a
[00:29:25] fence just for being gay. George Floyd,
[00:29:28] he did nothing wrong. They just saw a
[00:29:30] black guy and they said, "Let's choke
[00:29:32] him out for 9 minutes and hope that he
[00:29:33] dies." And nothing. Nobody just goes for
[00:29:36] a moment, wait a second.
[00:29:38] >> I've lived in America a very long time.
[00:29:40] I've never seen or heard this thing
[00:29:42] happen, but the media, they are so good
[00:29:45] at getting psychologically convincing
[00:29:47] people that no, this is exactly how it
[00:29:49] happened.
[00:29:49] >> My Brit my British is going to come out
[00:29:50] now, but I think this is I think this is
[00:29:52] how this country was founded on a
[00:29:55] trumped up Reddit libertarian
[00:29:57] hissyfitit. uh that was not really all
[00:29:59] it was cracked up to be, but was the
[00:30:01] basis for a destructive and self harm um
[00:30:05] uh story, you know, a founding mythology
[00:30:07] of a country that ripped out the natural
[00:30:11] uh system of government that is supposed
[00:30:13] to obtain over men on earth and pulled
[00:30:16] God out of the system, too. Uh I is this
[00:30:19] my British coming out? I know. No, it's
[00:30:21] I actually I'm going to
[00:30:22] >> there's there there is something a
[00:30:24] little similar about the way this
[00:30:25] country was founded um to what you're
[00:30:27] talking about which might suggest why
[00:30:30] this country is so vulnerable and so you
[00:30:33] know as so so susceptible to precisely
[00:30:35] this kind of of psychological and
[00:30:37] political warfare because it is how the
[00:30:39] nation knows itself how it was born was
[00:30:42] in um a a a fit of injustice
[00:30:45] >> that was corrected by a few brave men
[00:30:48] taking a stand. That's the whole story
[00:30:50] of America.
[00:30:51] >> Okay, so I'm interested now cuz this is
[00:30:53] going to bring us right into the occult
[00:30:54] and what they actually believe in
[00:30:56] because you're right. The founding of
[00:30:57] America is an absolute myth.
[00:30:58] >> I'm actuallyed by the French.
[00:31:01] >> But hold on. What is the book that I'm
[00:31:03] reading? The secret founding of America.
[00:31:05] I'm reading a book and it's basically
[00:31:07] just blowing my mind and it's telling me
[00:31:08] that everything you think you know is
[00:31:09] completely false. But when I was in
[00:31:12] study with some priests, they sort of
[00:31:14] pitch pushed me. You know, I was in the
[00:31:15] I was in England studying with some
[00:31:16] priests and they were just sort of like
[00:31:17] everything that you Americans think, you
[00:31:19] know, is so foolish. Like America was
[00:31:20] obviously founded by Freemasons. And now
[00:31:23] I'm really understanding like yes, you
[00:31:24] you had these Freemason lodges that came
[00:31:27] over, you know, the Scottish right,
[00:31:28] Benber, and they they were the reason
[00:31:31] behind the Civil War. They were reason
[00:31:33] they were literally fighting for control
[00:31:35] of America. And the way that they do
[00:31:37] this is very similar to what we're
[00:31:39] seeing today. There's there is this kind
[00:31:41] of mainstreamed lie. Let's get to if you
[00:31:43] ask Americans. Oh, it was just the tea
[00:31:45] tax was too high and this is what we
[00:31:47] did. We started throwing it out in the
[00:31:48] harbor and we said we're ready to go to
[00:31:50] war. Now that I say it, it sounds so
[00:31:52] stupid.
[00:31:52] >> Sounds kind of dumb, don't it?
[00:31:54] >> Sounds kind of dumb. Basically, like I
[00:31:56] know it was a couple hundred years ago,
[00:31:57] but people were people.
[00:31:58] >> What? How much does this tea cost? Oh
[00:32:00] no. Paul Rivere, the British are coming.
[00:32:03] It's actually something childish.
[00:32:06] >> And it's gay. It's It's gay. It's gay.
[00:32:08] It's gay. Um, it's implausible. It is
[00:32:11] fake and gay.
[00:32:13] >> You literally now that I'm getting into
[00:32:14] the Freemason,
[00:32:15] >> is it and is it any wonder that a
[00:32:17] country founded on a fake in gay
[00:32:19] mythology uh would would would have as
[00:32:22] its primary export just a couple hundred
[00:32:25] years later sodomy as a condition of
[00:32:27] foreign aid.
[00:32:28] >> Is it so surprising? No, it's not. Not
[00:32:30] to me.
[00:32:31] >> No, it's not. But but getting into the
[00:32:32] homosexuality and looking into Benith,
[00:32:35] this was actually one of the Masonic
[00:32:37] lodges that Sigman Freud was a part of.
[00:32:38] And that's why it made me think about
[00:32:39] this because they were definitely very
[00:32:41] involved in what was happening in the
[00:32:42] south. They're very involved in what's
[00:32:43] happening today. But I then became the
[00:32:45] ADL, the ADL that we had today. What do
[00:32:47] they do? They mainstream lies, right?
[00:32:49] They call themselves Exactly. They they
[00:32:51] call themselves anti-defamation. But
[00:32:52] what are they doing? They're actually
[00:32:54] defaming people. They accuse people,
[00:32:56] >> which is a satanic inversion of the
[00:32:57] language precisely as is used in their
[00:32:59] in their warfare. They tell you who they
[00:33:01] are in the name.
[00:33:01] >> Exactly. And so they are constantly
[00:33:03] accusing people of exactly what it is
[00:33:05] that they are. So they actually in their
[00:33:07] in their core by the way they hate
[00:33:09] Christians. Okay. They they hate I I
[00:33:12] would argue that they they hate the
[00:33:14] nuclear family because that comes with
[00:33:15] everything that comes down right from
[00:33:16] Christian dumb like the nuclear family.
[00:33:18] The idea of a functional family. And
[00:33:19] when you look at the things that that
[00:33:21] they're pushing in our society, it's
[00:33:23] constantly an attack on the family unit.
[00:33:25] >> Let's think about it in terms of
[00:33:27] Catholic theology. The transcendentals.
[00:33:29] These are those qualities of reality
[00:33:31] that um uh all people are drawn to that
[00:33:34] um uh give us a little taste of what our
[00:33:37] Lord may be like. And uh depending on
[00:33:39] whose theology you read, uh typically
[00:33:41] there's there's four of them are beauty,
[00:33:43] truth, goodness, and unity. Right? So
[00:33:44] you often hear religious people talking
[00:33:46] about the good, the beautiful, and the
[00:33:47] true. Right? Those are the things that
[00:33:49] the ADL wages war against along with all
[00:33:51] of the other um uh bodies of of a
[00:33:53] similar kind. They they will um
[00:33:57] celebrate the ugliest statues possible.
[00:33:59] They will spread as many lies as
[00:34:01] possible and they will um uh propagate
[00:34:04] and uh seek to um uh enshrine
[00:34:08] evil and wretched things. Planned
[00:34:10] Parenthood, whatever the good, the
[00:34:12] beautiful, and the true. And of course,
[00:34:13] they create uh disharmony and
[00:34:15] disunityity and break people apart. It
[00:34:17] is it is those those um those things
[00:34:19] that I always find find it very helpful
[00:34:21] to think about um the way that the enemy
[00:34:25] has fought over the last hundred years
[00:34:26] in this country in terms of those things
[00:34:28] the transcendentals because um when you
[00:34:31] when you under when you it sort of
[00:34:33] checks off all the fronts they've been
[00:34:34] fighting on they've been getting it even
[00:34:36] if we haven't well America didn't
[00:34:37] because it's Protestant uh didn't you
[00:34:39] know this lost sight of this but but but
[00:34:41] the bad guys knew exactly what they were
[00:34:43] doing because they know what Catholics
[00:34:46] know, which is in just the same way that
[00:34:48] Satanists know, what Catholics know,
[00:34:49] they just follow, you know, do do
[00:34:51] something different, which is um that
[00:34:52] those things tend to go together. And if
[00:34:55] you make a society that is beautiful um
[00:34:57] and that tells the truth, it's likely
[00:34:59] also to be good. And if you have, you
[00:35:02] know, somebody who always tells the
[00:35:04] truth and um has good morals, um they're
[00:35:07] probably going to express those things
[00:35:08] in beautiful language. Uh these things
[00:35:10] somehow have a relationship together um
[00:35:13] because they're all qualities of God,
[00:35:14] but also because these they they seem
[00:35:16] somehow to lead to one another. Uh and
[00:35:18] many people come to the faith,
[00:35:19] especially the Catholic faith, through
[00:35:21] art, through architecture, through
[00:35:23] beauty, because they see something in
[00:35:25] it. They feel something kind of humming
[00:35:26] behind it. And that humming is God. Uh
[00:35:29] and eventually it tumbles into the the
[00:35:31] good and the true things they find out
[00:35:32] about about God later. they're drawn in
[00:35:35] by something objectively
[00:35:37] um independently beautiful, eternally
[00:35:40] beautiful about something that they have
[00:35:42] seen or or some or a melody they have
[00:35:43] heard or or or or all of those things,
[00:35:45] you know, the great richness of the of
[00:35:46] the western whatever. Um by unpicking
[00:35:50] the the mutually reinforcing structure
[00:35:54] that used to fuel our culture and hold
[00:35:57] us all together, beauty, truth,
[00:35:59] goodness, and unity. these things that
[00:36:00] we all thought reflexively that we would
[00:36:02] of course we're all you know um uh
[00:36:06] searching for and and um and and
[00:36:08] pointing towards by making the world
[00:36:11] ugly putting fat girls on the magazines
[00:36:13] making the statues horrendous all you
[00:36:16] know um Leslie Jones haven't I suffered
[00:36:19] for that one
[00:36:20] >> Dunham that wasn't fair
[00:36:22] >> Dunham what did I do she's come back
[00:36:23] bigger than ever she's you know in in an
[00:36:26] age of empic it takes some determination
[00:36:28] to be that fat But she is, it was so
[00:36:30] intentional for her to do to to to
[00:36:32] introduce into the culture, get this
[00:36:34] deal with HBO. It's gonna be the
[00:36:35] greatest show ever and and then they put
[00:36:37] her on every every magazine cover. Oh,
[00:36:40] it's so brave. It's so beautiful. And
[00:36:42] but there is an element of this. I I I
[00:36:43] really want to underscore this.
[00:36:45] >> The lie them trying to sell it to us and
[00:36:47] then say there's something wrong with
[00:36:48] you if you recoil when you see Lena
[00:36:51] Dunham naked. Of course, there's such a
[00:36:53] thing as objective beauty. They're
[00:36:54] trying to teach us that beauty is
[00:36:55] >> my recovery is rocky enough as it is.
[00:36:57] Yeah, it's like seriously
[00:36:59] >> I could do without that.
[00:37:00] >> But seriously, they're trying to train
[00:37:01] our minds to believe that that
[00:37:03] everything is subjective. And there's
[00:37:04] something about that perspective that is
[00:37:06] fundamentally satanic and demonic and
[00:37:08] backwards because it's like, no, stop
[00:37:10] trying to convince me that this really
[00:37:12] ugly modern uh contraption and that
[00:37:15] you're calling a building is not is just
[00:37:17] as beautiful as when I step into a
[00:37:19] Catholic cathedral.
[00:37:20] >> And so and so the the Russians
[00:37:22] understand this, right? And so when they
[00:37:23] talk when um when you hear um the KGB uh
[00:37:26] guys talking about demor demoralization
[00:37:29] of a of a of a population, right? Uh
[00:37:31] they're they're they're saying they
[00:37:33] understand that if you make people say
[00:37:36] things they know aren't true and support
[00:37:39] things they know are bad and admire or
[00:37:42] or perform admiration towards things
[00:37:45] they find ugly, they're going to get
[00:37:47] depressed. When you when you say
[00:37:49] something that you know to be untrue, I
[00:37:51] used to talk about this with
[00:37:52] >> it makes you feel unsettled,
[00:37:53] >> but it's even worse. It's because there
[00:37:55] is this culture of that. I would look
[00:37:56] under Lena Dunham posting herself like a
[00:37:58] total slob and people would say stunning
[00:38:00] and brave, you know, so beautiful, like
[00:38:02] you're so morality, a little piece of
[00:38:04] you. It does something to your spirit
[00:38:07] when you speak an untruth like that. You
[00:38:09] know, that's not true. Why are you
[00:38:11] saying that?
[00:38:12] >> And so, um, when when the when the
[00:38:13] Berlin Wall fell, everybody was like
[00:38:15] suddenly western. It was because uh
[00:38:17] everybody had been lying about what they
[00:38:19] really believed. It was called
[00:38:20] sociologists referred to it as
[00:38:22] preference falsification, right? Uh all
[00:38:24] of society basically everybody had this
[00:38:26] uh incredibly powerful social pressure
[00:38:29] to all say that they believed and
[00:38:31] supported this when in reality they were
[00:38:33] like secretly trying to listen to the
[00:38:34] radio from over there. So, so when when
[00:38:36] there's the opportunity, everybody
[00:38:38] suddenly changes all at once. And we
[00:38:40] just saw that again with um woke with
[00:38:42] trans with you know with Trump coming in
[00:38:45] uh we just this extraordinary I mean
[00:38:47] what the view uh I don't know when you
[00:38:49] will be watching this but uh when we
[00:38:51] recorded it it was on that happy day. Um
[00:38:54] but the view was uh reportedly canceled.
[00:38:56] Uh did you see that today?
[00:38:58] >> No. Were they actually canceled? I don't
[00:38:59] think that's right. Well, I I like to
[00:39:01] believe it and I I'm never going to
[00:39:03] watch it again. So, I'm going to believe
[00:39:04] that it was canceled today, but but uh
[00:39:06] it's it's coming off the back of um uh
[00:39:09] of Colbear and these these things are
[00:39:11] crumbling because the artifice of lies
[00:39:14] is crumbling because the infrastructure
[00:39:16] that requires the wickedness is no
[00:39:18] longer there. Um and so we don't need
[00:39:20] ugly, untalented, uh falsely propped up
[00:39:23] people on television anymore. Um and and
[00:39:25] they're going to have to, you know, go
[00:39:26] rebuild and do something else. Mark, do
[00:39:28] you mind looking up and and then seeing
[00:39:29] if you can pull that up if whether the
[00:39:30] view was canceled today? I actually
[00:39:31] haven't.
[00:39:33] >> No, the the Rosie the view will be Oh,
[00:39:36] Rosie O'Donnell fears the view will be
[00:39:37] cancelled for not aligning.
[00:39:39] >> So, you've ruined you've ruined my day.
[00:39:41] >> Um I was hoping the view would be
[00:39:43] cancelled while Megan McCain um was on
[00:39:45] it so that she would always think it was
[00:39:47] her. Um but but I um I'm I'm choosing to
[00:39:51] believe that it was canceled. Um
[00:39:53] >> but they're but they are kind of trying
[00:39:54] to tell us forgetting about the view. We
[00:39:56] are seeing that crumbling a lot of it is
[00:39:58] is crumbling Hollywood's influence
[00:40:00] Howard Stone's contract was canceled and
[00:40:03] these are things that are in themselves
[00:40:04] lies because they are contracts that are
[00:40:06] not profitable but are propped up by
[00:40:08] other things. They are lies in
[00:40:09] themselves. Um
[00:40:11] >> we got to talk about this because this
[00:40:12] is I literally covered this on my show
[00:40:14] last week.
[00:40:15] >> Barry Weiss there this is the greatest
[00:40:16] example of this. The free press they are
[00:40:19] trying to convince us Barry Weiss is
[00:40:21] worth a quarter of a billion dollars.
[00:40:23] They have no views on YouTube. There's a
[00:40:25] a Jewish word for calling for for for
[00:40:28] saying that your publication, the free
[00:40:29] press, is worth $250 million. It's
[00:40:31] called Hutzbah.
[00:40:33] >> No, but everyone is actually investing.
[00:40:36] Every billionaire is investing in her.
[00:40:38] So, let's actually think through this.
[00:40:39] What are they doing? It is so obvious
[00:40:41] that this publication if we actually
[00:40:43] lived in a free market society would be
[00:40:45] under.
[00:40:46] >> So, technically speaking, uh things are
[00:40:48] worth what somebody is willing to pay
[00:40:50] for them under capitalism. Right?
[00:40:52] there's a big buck coming but uh you
[00:40:53] know uh so so uh a company's valuation
[00:40:57] is determined by the uh uh price at
[00:41:00] which people are willing to to to buy in
[00:41:03] uh to exchange capital for slices of the
[00:41:05] company. Uh and the ratio at which they
[00:41:08] do that determines what the whole thing
[00:41:10] is worth. But it has been a very long
[00:41:14] time since people invested in companies
[00:41:16] solely for profitable returns. We now
[00:41:19] live in a very different world. We live
[00:41:21] in a late stage uh monopolistic uh
[00:41:25] decadent capitalist um uh world in which
[00:41:28] everything is one of the same five
[00:41:30] corporations.
[00:41:31] >> So it doesn't matter and it never will
[00:41:33] that that company isn't worth a tenth or
[00:41:36] a hundredth of what they say because a
[00:41:38] multinational conglomerate that doesn't
[00:41:40] care will buy it at that valuation
[00:41:42] anyway and continue to run it at a loss
[00:41:44] if they choose to because it has
[00:41:46] cultural value.
[00:41:46] >> Well, it doesn't have any cultural
[00:41:47] value. No one's listening to Barry
[00:41:48] Weiss. So what are they doing? Are they
[00:41:50] that what they're doing is building the
[00:41:53] uh propaganda machinery of tomorrow
[00:41:54] because
[00:41:55] >> that's what I was thinking
[00:41:56] >> the entire edifice of the prestige media
[00:42:00] has been so badly damaged and
[00:42:02] discredited by the last 10 years um by
[00:42:05] themselves. They did it themselves um
[00:42:07] that there is no publication out there
[00:42:09] that still commands the respect and and
[00:42:12] um agilation and trust of the public.
[00:42:14] Nothing. None of them. Uh, and the ones
[00:42:17] that do have the most um, uh, confidence
[00:42:21] of the public, we just defunded
[00:42:23] the NPR and whatnot, which you know,
[00:42:25] were coasting on a kind of um,
[00:42:27] authoritative tone to bamboozle people
[00:42:30] into thinking they were telling the
[00:42:31] truth. uh not really telling the truth,
[00:42:33] but they did, you know. So, so we we
[00:42:35] have a um an enormous uh vacuum in the
[00:42:39] media landscape that I think they're
[00:42:41] going to fill by overvaluing and then
[00:42:43] very quickly in the same way that hedge
[00:42:45] funds will buy uh you remember all
[00:42:46] saints that that clothing store uh there
[00:42:48] was sort of there was one in in uh
[00:42:50] Spittlefields or shortage in London and
[00:42:51] there was one somewhere else and then
[00:42:52] suddenly they were in every town uh is
[00:42:54] the hedge fun thing. It's the Blackstone
[00:42:55] thing. It's the so they they they buy
[00:42:58] this and they're going to just federate
[00:42:59] it out. There'll be there'll be before
[00:43:01] you know it there will be 5,000 free
[00:43:03] press journalists. I totally agree with
[00:43:04] you.
[00:43:05] >> What are they really? They're not
[00:43:06] journalists. They are uh instruments of
[00:43:08] propaganda for
[00:43:10] the well Orwell didn't foresee this but
[00:43:13] uh uh for for that sick mix of state and
[00:43:17] corrupt capitalism the revolving door
[00:43:20] between big pharma uh you know big oil
[00:43:22] uh the the the military-industrial
[00:43:24] complex and the government, right? All
[00:43:25] of it together. And so those people
[00:43:28] require a complex, large, and powerful
[00:43:31] propaganda uh um uh system in order to
[00:43:35] get away with stuff like selling people
[00:43:37] poison and telling them it's medicine.
[00:43:39] >> And to do that, they need uh people that
[00:43:41] public will more or less by and large
[00:43:43] trust. So my read on on Barry Weiss is
[00:43:45] that she is the most malleable,
[00:43:48] controllable, anodine, um uh
[00:43:51] empty-headed uh willing to do, say, and
[00:43:54] be anything.
[00:43:55] um uh person they could find and
[00:43:58] therefore is perfect to uh head up an
[00:44:01] organization that will be not a
[00:44:03] journalistic um uh institution as we
[00:44:07] have known them but rather um a room of
[00:44:10] um broadcasters for rent uh depending on
[00:44:13] who that week needs to um persuade the
[00:44:16] American public of some lies whether it
[00:44:18] is the Israel lobby or big farmer. Okay.
[00:44:20] So, interesting question for you. A lot
[00:44:22] of people that are being propped up, a
[00:44:23] lot of people that have power are in
[00:44:25] fact, especially in the media, gay.
[00:44:27] They're homosexuals, right? Barry Weiss,
[00:44:29] she was married to a man, but now she's
[00:44:30] married to a woman and having children
[00:44:31] with a
[00:44:32] >> lesbians aren't real.
[00:44:33] >> Yeah. Well, lesbians aren't real. Well,
[00:44:34] tell that to Barry Weiss. And
[00:44:37] >> thing about her is real. Well, whether
[00:44:38] you think of a lot of people that are
[00:44:39] empowered,
[00:44:40] >> especially her valuation,
[00:44:41] >> particularly her valuation, maybe that's
[00:44:44] why they chose it, you see, but a woman
[00:44:45] a woman who believes that she's sexually
[00:44:47] attracted to another woman can believe
[00:44:49] anything. I mean, once you if you're a
[00:44:51] woman, you convince yourself that you
[00:44:52] are sexually attracted to another I
[00:44:53] mean, even lesbians don't keep it up
[00:44:55] more than six months after they get
[00:44:56] married. It's called lesbian bed death.
[00:44:58] They um they stop having sex completely
[00:44:59] and they just turn into sort of, you
[00:45:00] know, miserable old knitters. um you
[00:45:02] know, sort of uh and then and then of
[00:45:04] course the domestic violence starts
[00:45:05] spooling up because um the pretty one
[00:45:08] gets a boyfriend on the side and the um
[00:45:10] you know, the big ugly dy one beat beats
[00:45:12] the crap out of her twice a week. Um
[00:45:14] because it is what a dysfunction
[00:45:16] dysfunctional disordered arrangement
[00:45:18] which is uh guaranteed by virtue of its
[00:45:21] um uh cacophony of um of of mis mis
[00:45:26] lunging flailing mispunching intentions
[00:45:28] to produce horrors like um Dave Rubin's
[00:45:31] Frankenbies um when
[00:45:35] the thought of it you know just like oh
[00:45:36] let's both and then stir it and then see
[00:45:38] like oh my god
[00:45:40] >> well I think even like okay so another
[00:45:41] person in media like you had Don Lemon
[00:45:43] you've that uh
[00:45:44] >> why why do you think based on what we've
[00:45:46] what we've discussed so far would you
[00:45:48] choose gays to be the front men uh for
[00:45:51] the real powerful people whose names
[00:45:53] you'll never learn uh um and who will
[00:45:54] never be held accountable because
[00:45:56] they're so used to playing characters
[00:45:57] already. They'll do whatever you want.
[00:46:00] They'll say whatever you want. They will
[00:46:02] actually and in fact inhabit the bl.
[00:46:04] They will believe whatever they need to
[00:46:06] and they will be your um uh your
[00:46:11] endlessly and infinitely malleable um uh
[00:46:14] propagandists and figureheads.
[00:46:16] >> Interesting.
[00:46:16] >> Because they are so used already to
[00:46:19] stitching together things on the fly and
[00:46:21] uh and saying things they don't believe
[00:46:23] and having no idea what the real truth
[00:46:25] is. And isn't that just what's happened
[00:46:27] to the press? It's become
[00:46:29] homosexualized. It's splined and and we
[00:46:31] have this now we have we have uh um
[00:46:33] chunks of things that kind of sort of
[00:46:34] work, but there's no there's nothing at
[00:46:36] the heart of it. It doesn't know what
[00:46:37] it's for. It's forgotten its role as the
[00:46:39] fourth estate. Why? Because it is um
[00:46:42] full of gay people doing PR.
[00:46:45] >> Okay. So, here's a question for you.
[00:46:47] What how does the government win by
[00:46:50] trying to indoctrinate everybody into an
[00:46:52] increasingly more homosexual culture?
[00:46:54] because it's of course the government
[00:46:55] has to win, right? They have to they
[00:46:56] have to
[00:46:56] >> because broken damaged people are far
[00:46:59] more compliant uh that because they're
[00:47:01] needier and they're weaker. So, uh
[00:47:04] people don't understand why big
[00:47:06] companies love diversity. They're like,
[00:47:07] "Well, wouldn't that just like make you
[00:47:09] less efficient?" Or, "No, no, it's
[00:47:10] because uh diverse workforces don't
[00:47:13] unionize. Amazon loves diversity because
[00:47:16] if you have an Italian-American, a
[00:47:18] Mexican, a Guatemalan, and and nobody
[00:47:20] knows what she is, um they won't get
[00:47:22] together outside of work and talk about
[00:47:24] what the boss is doing, they won't have
[00:47:26] the same priorities. They won't have the
[00:47:28] same way of doing things. They they
[00:47:30] probably won't even talk at work.
[00:47:32] They'll find the other Mexican or
[00:47:33] they'll find the other whatever or
[00:47:34] they'll just sort of suddenly do their
[00:47:35] job and go home. And this completely
[00:47:38] divided, fractured, dysfunctional
[00:47:40] workforce that, you know, doesn't
[00:47:42] represent anything like the old
[00:47:44] factories or workplaces of the past
[00:47:46] where people were, you know, invested in
[00:47:48] each other's uh um careers and kids and
[00:47:50] and you know, took things to the office,
[00:47:52] you know, oh, I baked I baked today or
[00:47:54] whatever. You can imagine that happening
[00:47:55] in an Amazon warehouse and it doesn't um
[00:47:58] because there because the these
[00:47:59] workforces are full of people so utterly
[00:48:03] different from one another who have
[00:48:04] nothing in common and don't really know
[00:48:05] how to communicate with one another and
[00:48:07] don't unless they have to. Those
[00:48:09] workforces are neutralized um in in
[00:48:13] terms of political disscent or or or um
[00:48:16] collective bargaining. And Amazon will
[00:48:18] never have to worry about their workers
[00:48:20] all going out on strike one day because
[00:48:22] the wages are too low. They'll never
[00:48:24] have to worry about the workforce um
[00:48:26] having an attack of the vapors or morals
[00:48:28] saying, "We don't think we should sell
[00:48:29] this anymore. I know it's very
[00:48:31] profitable for you, but we're not going
[00:48:32] to pack it." They never have to worry
[00:48:33] about that because there aren't four
[00:48:36] people in that building who have enough
[00:48:37] in common to have a coffee at lunchtime
[00:48:39] and say, "We really should do something
[00:48:40] about this." M
[00:48:41] >> so in the same way the government that
[00:48:44] is intricately involved in the sale and
[00:48:47] um uh regulation and uh and in some
[00:48:51] cases punishment of a variety of of
[00:48:53] different poisons and drugs and all the
[00:48:54] rest of you know I mean they they tell
[00:48:55] basically they they they tell you which
[00:48:57] ones you can have uh and they give
[00:48:58] licenses to uh companies to profit from
[00:49:01] it. Um the more fractured and the more
[00:49:05] uh dumb and dependent the population is,
[00:49:08] the more they will need to play ball so
[00:49:11] that they get their aderall so that they
[00:49:13] get their um uh paycheck. They don't
[00:49:15] fall behind with their uh with their
[00:49:17] compound interest payments for the
[00:49:18] television that they don't own. So that
[00:49:20] they um you because with everybody
[00:49:22] living paycheck to paycheck and and full
[00:49:24] surrounded by these uh addictions and
[00:49:27] dependencies from their um brokenness,
[00:49:30] from their disorder, from their misery,
[00:49:32] from their unhappiness, uh these
[00:49:34] cushions that they use or these uh
[00:49:36] medications or or these whatever they
[00:49:38] are, you know, that they use to to to to
[00:49:40] um to fix their mood from one day to the
[00:49:43] next. They need that stuff. They need
[00:49:45] it. uh a and it makes that person it
[00:49:48] puts it takes that person completely out
[00:49:50] of the running for social dissonance.
[00:49:52] That person can't even take a month off
[00:49:54] work, let alone go and protest what the
[00:49:56] government's doing. And so they become,
[00:49:58] as we now have in America, uh,
[00:50:01] miserable, demoralized wage slaves, uh,
[00:50:04] who are, um, uh, living in a prison of,
[00:50:07] of compound interest debt, and who live
[00:50:10] lives they they never wanted and don't
[00:50:13] wouldn't choose, but which were sort of
[00:50:15] provided for them as um uh, you know, as
[00:50:18] as a as a as an aspirational lifestyle
[00:50:20] goal by the the same press that um, you
[00:50:22] know, does. and and and they can't
[00:50:24] afford and they're frightened of um of
[00:50:26] taking that time off and seeing what it
[00:50:28] would mean and and then other things
[00:50:30] begin to happen which you'll just start
[00:50:31] noticing now in the last 10 20 years in
[00:50:33] America other crazym things start to
[00:50:36] happen. I live in um a house. There's a
[00:50:39] friend friend of mine. My my um friend
[00:50:40] of mine owns this house. It is a uh
[00:50:43] 1920s travatine marble and concrete
[00:50:46] mansion. Huge whacking great thing on
[00:50:47] top of a hill. And it is the only house
[00:50:49] I've ever been in in America that feels
[00:50:51] solid like it might be here in 50 years.
[00:50:54] >> Everything else in America, you must you
[00:50:56] must uh having been to Europe so much
[00:50:58] now with your husband, you must
[00:51:00] >> the architecture is just
[00:51:01] >> things just feel like they're going to
[00:51:02] last
[00:51:03] >> and you're not wrong. You're not
[00:51:04] imagining it. I always tell this story
[00:51:07] and people get stories, but my my mother
[00:51:09] um uh had a corkcrew that she bought in
[00:51:12] Paris when I was a baby, which she still
[00:51:15] had when I was 18. And I know that
[00:51:17] because I stole it. Uh that worked fine.
[00:51:20] And and you know, we're Brits, so we
[00:51:22] were drinkers. I mean, she was using
[00:51:23] that thing every day and it lasted. You
[00:51:25] can't buy one that lasts a year in
[00:51:27] America. You I mean, you're lucky if you
[00:51:28] can farm that lasts six months, right?
[00:51:30] Everything about the built environment
[00:51:32] is becoming disposable, dispensable, uh
[00:51:34] fragile. Um, the walls are getting
[00:51:36] thinner, so you can hear the people next
[00:51:37] to you. Um, and and you know, you might
[00:51:39] have somehow managed to beat the
[00:51:43] economics of 2025 and buy yourself a
[00:51:46] house, but that house is falling apart
[00:51:49] the moment it's finished. Things are
[00:51:51] peeling. Uh, the workmanship is, you
[00:51:53] know, is terrible. The materials are
[00:51:55] terrible. Uh, everything is done um
[00:51:58] everything is done um in a slipshot
[00:52:00] fashion. And it makes people um it makes
[00:52:04] people terrified of um taking risks
[00:52:08] because so much about their life is
[00:52:09] uncertain or painful or uncontrollable
[00:52:11] or chaotic already.
[00:52:13] >> And so, you know, you you have people
[00:52:15] trapped in this in this jail uh trying
[00:52:18] to keep a breast of repairs on their
[00:52:20] house, repairs on the car. I mean, every
[00:52:22] consumer device now is 2,000 two
[00:52:25] or$3,000 and breaks, you know. Um that
[00:52:28] is not all right. Uh but every single
[00:52:31] thing is like it now. Um
[00:52:34] you I was I was looking for um
[00:52:36] >> Americans definitely have been kind of
[00:52:38] taught Sorry to cut you off but
[00:52:39] Americans sort of have been taught to
[00:52:41] like embrace this new new culture.
[00:52:42] stainless steel everything is so
[00:52:44] clinical
[00:52:44] >> but it's sold as um a a signifier of
[00:52:47] wealth when anybody from a truly wealthy
[00:52:50] background in Europe will tell you that
[00:52:53] is this sign of poverty of only being
[00:52:55] able to afford something that doesn't
[00:52:57] last you know uh when when uh black
[00:53:00] Americans were first emancipated
[00:53:02] >> and they were building these new lives
[00:53:05] black consumers in America in the 1950s
[00:53:07] and60s
[00:53:09] uh went into department stores and
[00:53:10] bought the best that they could afford
[00:53:12] the best brands, the best quality brands
[00:53:14] because they knew it had to last because
[00:53:15] they were building a life like a life
[00:53:17] that that had a future. They were
[00:53:18] looking ahead to their children having
[00:53:21] um uh a a destiny in America and they
[00:53:25] wanted to build something real and
[00:53:27] something um with foundation, right? You
[00:53:29] hear a lot of black grandmas these days
[00:53:31] that's your foundation, right? It's a
[00:53:32] big word that you hear like maybe two
[00:53:34] generations up in black America. That's
[00:53:36] your foundation. Ayan le says it a lot.
[00:53:38] you know, the um Lea Vanzant um the
[00:53:41] consumers in the 1950s, if you worked in
[00:53:43] a department store, you would know if a
[00:53:45] um a black couple came in or or or wife,
[00:53:47] she wanted the not the most ostentatious
[00:53:50] one, but the very best quality brand um
[00:53:54] better better than the white people
[00:53:55] would buy and she was going to look
[00:53:57] after it, take care of it, have it for
[00:53:58] 20 years, you know. Um that's what you
[00:54:00] do when you have an investment in the
[00:54:02] future. That's what you do when you have
[00:54:04] hope for the future. That's what you do
[00:54:05] when you're building something that will
[00:54:07] be a legacy for for, you know, for for
[00:54:09] for generations to come. What we have
[00:54:12] now, especially in white working-class
[00:54:14] America, where the razondra of the town
[00:54:17] has gone as well as everything falling
[00:54:18] to pieces, but really just in the
[00:54:20] country generally, is this um flattening
[00:54:24] and and and um cheapening of all our
[00:54:27] life through this fake um oh, wealthy
[00:54:31] people just throw it away when they're
[00:54:32] done with it. you know, waste the sort
[00:54:33] of um uh uh this wealth mythology that
[00:54:38] Americans have been sold. Like if if you
[00:54:40] can just buy another one, that means
[00:54:42] you're doing well, right? And it doesn't
[00:54:44] matter that it broke or whatever. Uh um
[00:54:46] or that you're you buy like I was
[00:54:48] looking at um I'm a cat person. Uh I was
[00:54:53] looking at um those robots, you know,
[00:54:55] that um that because you know, I'm not
[00:54:57] touching litter and my you know, my mate
[00:54:59] can't be there every day.
[00:55:00] >> Oh, yeah. The litter robots.
[00:55:01] >> Yeah. and and the the leader in the
[00:55:04] market which costs $700 and they've been
[00:55:06] making these things since 1990 killed
[00:55:08] two cats 3 months ago. They still
[00:55:10] haven't got it right. They still don't
[00:55:12] make it right. You know, either either
[00:55:13] take it off the market or or don't build
[00:55:15] cheap. And the reason is that it was
[00:55:16] built so cheaply that the the magnets
[00:55:18] kind of fell over. It's like trapped and
[00:55:20] killed, you know, because even things
[00:55:23] that are um designed to go in your home
[00:55:26] for the benefit of living creatures um
[00:55:28] are made with such contempt and
[00:55:31] carelessness and yet priced so
[00:55:33] astronomically as to as to um as to make
[00:55:37] everyone crazy. And it has made everyone
[00:55:40] crazy.
[00:55:40] >> Yeah. And I mean, even in regards to
[00:55:42] food, kind of this idea of like, well,
[00:55:44] we can feed more people. What are you
[00:55:45] feeding them? You're feeding them crap.
[00:55:46] Nothing is ancestral anymore. That's
[00:55:48] what I always say about America. is
[00:55:49] ancestral. When you say ancestral, I
[00:55:50] mean even if you think about people's
[00:55:52] families that people don't know where
[00:55:53] they come from anymore, right? So
[00:55:55] there's nothing that has any substance.
[00:55:56] There's nothing that has that
[00:55:57] foundation.
[00:55:57] >> Can't imagine the world before they were
[00:55:59] born.
[00:55:59] >> And they're trying to speed that up. And
[00:56:01] that is that is the danger that I see in
[00:56:03] AI. It's the reason why while everyone
[00:56:05] else is sort of embracing this. People
[00:56:07] were giving the the heroes welcome. When
[00:56:10] Elon Musk joined the join the
[00:56:12] administration, I'm sitting here going,
[00:56:13] "This is terrible. This is not a good
[00:56:14] idea." He actually believes in
[00:56:16] transhumanism. Okay.
[00:56:17] father, the founder or something.
[00:56:19] >> Yeah, her his grandfather his grandad
[00:56:20] was
[00:56:21] >> his grandfather was a part of this sort
[00:56:22] of transhumanist movement in Canada.
[00:56:25] >> This is difficult for me because I'm
[00:56:26] going blind and I have about five or six
[00:56:28] years of vision left. Um, and so his his
[00:56:30] his chip is probably the only thing
[00:56:32] that's hold any hope of me being able to
[00:56:34] make my own.
[00:56:35] >> You don't ever give your the government
[00:56:36] access to your brain.
[00:56:37] >> The problem is
[00:56:38] >> we already have given the government
[00:56:39] access to Ukraine and look what's
[00:56:40] happened. But the problem is somebody
[00:56:41] could put me in pastels without me
[00:56:43] knowing and um
[00:56:46] so you have some way to go in my
[00:56:47] recovery. Um, no, no, but uh you know
[00:56:49] his his thing is the is is uh is uh but
[00:56:52] just about the only it is I saw a woman
[00:56:54] writing with it on the screen and I was
[00:56:55] like oh that's one of those that that's
[00:56:57] like that's like Christ in the desert
[00:56:59] kind of like glass of water kind of
[00:57:00] territory and it's like oh I must have
[00:57:02] it you know you know um really really um
[00:57:05] mesmerizing alluring kind of sickening
[00:57:07] sort of a um of a of an inducement of an
[00:57:09] enticement you know um
[00:57:11] >> that's how they get you.
[00:57:12] >> Yes. Yes. Of course. Um I I'm I was uh
[00:57:15] amused to see that the uh um latest
[00:57:17] iteration of self-driving cars is um
[00:57:19] consistently turning people straight
[00:57:21] into oncoming traffic. It's like yeah
[00:57:23] even even the cars want to kill
[00:57:25] themselves. Um you know
[00:57:26] >> but it's like this is the whole thing.
[00:57:27] It's like they want to control every
[00:57:28] aspect of your life including your
[00:57:30] brain. So it's not enough to just fill
[00:57:32] your mind with propaganda and lies every
[00:57:33] single day. Now they're like actually
[00:57:34] open up your mind.
[00:57:37] could possibly go wrong. You have these
[00:57:39] people who found like the the foundation
[00:57:42] of that transhumanist thought was the
[00:57:44] idea that they're like, "Hey, we don't
[00:57:45] actually believe in democracy. You think
[00:57:46] too many too many people are stupid. We
[00:57:48] are the smart people. Allow us to like
[00:57:49] rule the world." Actually, his
[00:57:51] grandfather particularly Elon Musk's
[00:57:54] grandfather or great-grandfather in
[00:57:55] Canada uh was a part of the technocratic
[00:57:57] movement, right? So, they believed in
[00:57:58] technocracy.
[00:57:59] >> This is my problem with America. When
[00:58:01] you rip out uh God and the King, you you
[00:58:04] can't replace it with the stars and
[00:58:05] stripes and a couple of um slogans. You
[00:58:07] can't just say, "Oh, freedom, um, uh,
[00:58:10] um, Fourth of July," and and and think
[00:58:12] that that that a an entire intricate
[00:58:14] system of human governance and and
[00:58:17] flourishing and culture and faith that
[00:58:19] was all leading tending up toward that
[00:58:22] that um, a capstone
[00:58:25] uh, on earth as it is in heaven, a an
[00:58:28] earthly reflection of the heavenly
[00:58:29] order, the aristocracy and the king, the
[00:58:31] angels and our lord. Um, rip that out of
[00:58:33] the heart of the system and expect
[00:58:34] everything to be okay. Uh because you
[00:58:36] don't just get rid of it, you make room
[00:58:39] for something worse to move in.
[00:58:40] >> Right? Hollywood became the king and the
[00:58:42] queen. The Beyonce's the Jay-Z's. You
[00:58:44] see people worshiping Hollywood.
[00:58:45] >> And the problem is that if you have a
[00:58:47] bad king, you're not supposed to, but
[00:58:49] you can kill him. You can assassinate
[00:58:51] him. And people do. When there's a
[00:58:52] crazy, cruel, terrible king who's um
[00:58:55] doing absolutely insane things, somebody
[00:58:58] kills him eventually. But if you don't
[00:59:01] know the names of the people who rule
[00:59:02] over you because they're all hiding
[00:59:04] behind the rippling stars and stripes
[00:59:05] like this, uh making a fortune from you,
[00:59:08] uh poisoning you, lying to you,
[00:59:10] experimenting on you, uh uh uh
[00:59:14] mutilating your children or convincing
[00:59:16] you to do it, uh you know, this is this
[00:59:18] is that when the Russians said that
[00:59:20] we'll know that America's conquered when
[00:59:22] people uh don't just rec people um will
[00:59:26] see their chains, love them, and ask for
[00:59:29] more. And and don't we live in that
[00:59:31] situation now where where we've got
[00:59:33] parents asking doctors to mutilate their
[00:59:36] own kids just to relieve their own
[00:59:38] consciences of um of of whatever it was
[00:59:41] that they they messed up during
[00:59:42] parenting or or for even worse reasons.
[00:59:44] I mean the things that single mothers
[00:59:46] are prepared to their kids um there's
[00:59:47] almost no depth to the the the the
[00:59:50] horror of it. Um we in 1776 does not
[00:59:55] make America a free of monarchy. It just
[00:59:58] means you don't know who's in charge and
[00:59:59] you'll never be able to hold them
[01:00:01] accountable.
[01:00:01] >> Who do you think is in charge?
[01:00:03] >> Um,
[01:00:04] >> good question.
[01:00:05] >> It seems obvious to me from everything
[01:00:08] we know about empires and and um uh
[01:00:11] longlasting cultures how and and when
[01:00:15] they fall, how and when they do it, the
[01:00:17] characteristics that it has. I think we
[01:00:20] can see in that uh hints about the
[01:00:24] perpetual elite class that seems to kind
[01:00:26] of exist throughout the because um those
[01:00:29] are the excesses I think that the the
[01:00:32] elites um embody that that they can do
[01:00:36] but when it permeates down to the rest
[01:00:37] of society things fall apart. So at the
[01:00:39] end of Rome you know you have um the
[01:00:41] Visigoths sacking the city and the
[01:00:43] senators are not doing what they're
[01:00:44] supposed to do. uh uh they're not in the
[01:00:47] Senate, they're out with um child
[01:00:49] prostitutes
[01:00:50] >> or they're uh gay orgies or they're
[01:00:52] whatever. When you start to see the um I
[01:00:55] think that um Camille Palia, who we're
[01:00:57] not supposed to quote anymore because
[01:00:58] people keep finding things about um man,
[01:01:00] boy, love in her books, but other than
[01:01:02] that, she's pretty good on most
[01:01:03] subjects. Um when she she she talks
[01:01:07] about this. She talks about the things
[01:01:08] that that civilizations have in common
[01:01:10] just before the fall. Every single one
[01:01:12] of them has a trans craze. All of them.
[01:01:14] every single uh great empire, every
[01:01:16] single great culture that has ever
[01:01:17] existed in the history of human
[01:01:19] civilization has had some kind of gender
[01:01:21] queer or or male female sex confusion
[01:01:24] right before the end.
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[01:03:53] Well, this is why I've been quite
[01:03:54] interested in what the theology is
[01:03:55] that's guiding this because I think
[01:03:56] these people keep keep surviving every
[01:03:58] every you know they're at the top and
[01:04:00] then they kind of reinvent themselves
[01:04:01] and they get at the top again and then
[01:04:03] and America is getting very close and
[01:04:05] the more that I examine getting back to
[01:04:06] Sigman Freud and Hollywood what was
[01:04:08] super interesting to me is to learn that
[01:04:10] the guiding theology seems to be the
[01:04:12] Cabala and when you think about what the
[01:04:13] Cabalists believe and and part of it is
[01:04:16] oral tradition so we'll never really
[01:04:18] know what they believe but Sigman Freud
[01:04:19] was a cabalist um at least if David Ban
[01:04:22] and um Other historians are to be
[01:04:23] believed. There is this com combination
[01:04:26] of a man becoming the woman. And in
[01:04:28] Hollywood Babylon, it talks about how we
[01:04:30] imported which is where uh segment Freud
[01:04:32] was living and working in Vienna, they
[01:04:34] al this old Vienna culture literally
[01:04:37] came over. They were bringing them over
[01:04:38] these literal pedophiles and Marlene
[01:04:41] Dietrich trying to tell women in
[01:04:43] America, which they did successfully,
[01:04:45] you should be wearing pants suits,
[01:04:46] making these people seem iconic like, oh
[01:04:48] my gosh, she's blending.
[01:04:50] >> Don't comfort Marina Dietrich. That's
[01:04:51] going to make me very sad.
[01:04:52] >> Yeah. No, she was one of them. They
[01:04:54] brought her over. They found her in I'm
[01:04:56] trying to
[01:04:57] >> No, you have to. She's part of this.
[01:04:59] >> You don't know what it took for me to
[01:05:00] let go of dinosaurs and and and it took
[01:05:02] me years to It took me years to let go
[01:05:05] of dinosaurs.
[01:05:05] >> Dinosaurs is hard for guys.
[01:05:07] >> Jurassic Park is like the the it is the
[01:05:10] aside from aside from
[01:05:11] >> they are fake and gay though.
[01:05:12] >> Aside from getting raped, it is the like
[01:05:14] seminal moment of my childhood.
[01:05:17] >> Sorry. Anyways, no. Going to see
[01:05:20] Jurassic Park in the movies for the
[01:05:21] first time. I watched that movie 500
[01:05:23] times. I'm not exaggerating.
[01:05:25] >> Dinosaurs. They just love them so much.
[01:05:26] >> Oh, we love them so much.
[01:05:27] >> Right. You like the idea of them?
[01:05:29] >> I know that movie backwards. I know
[01:05:30] every line of dialogue. I I I had I I
[01:05:34] taught myself, you know, do you remember
[01:05:37] where she This is a Unix system. I know
[01:05:38] this. Uh Lex, the um the the computer
[01:05:41] geek girl who uh um figures out how to
[01:05:43] lock the doors when the veloc All right.
[01:05:46] Okay. You don't know. But um when the
[01:05:47] velocraptors are are um hunting them in
[01:05:49] the visitor center right towards the end
[01:05:50] she figures out how to how to uh close
[01:05:52] the doors. I I bought a computer like
[01:05:55] that and taught I I it was like that was
[01:05:59] such
[01:06:01] a penetrating
[01:06:04] thing for me. Jurassic Park and
[01:06:06] dinosaurs like I wanted to um use the
[01:06:08] same computer they had in the movie. I
[01:06:10] had my like I had it on my it was
[01:06:12] everywhere and I still love it and I
[01:06:14] still have a soft spot and to let go of
[01:06:15] dinosaurs is very difficult. I'm not
[01:06:17] quite ready for Marina.
[01:06:18] >> You know you you need to be ready for
[01:06:20] that because I'm telling you she was
[01:06:21] imported over here by a bunch of German
[01:06:22] pedophiles for a reason. Um and then
[01:06:24] when you look at the pictures of her
[01:06:25] with Pierre Ber
[01:06:28] >> Yeah. Eve St. Laurent Pierre Leger all
[01:06:30] of these people who are interested in
[01:06:32] bending the gender and fashion the whole
[01:06:35] fashion Balenciaga the kids. I mean this
[01:06:37] is now that I'm getting into the the
[01:06:39] culture of Breijgit and who Breijgit was
[01:06:41] friends with and all of them just
[01:06:42] happened to have a thing for you know
[01:06:43] kids about French designers and I've
[01:06:46] been very reassured by my instincts to
[01:06:48] discover that when I when I return to my
[01:06:50] wardrobe it is Dolce Gabbana Versace
[01:06:53] Laura Piana it's all Italian
[01:06:55] >> yeah I haven't yeah I haven't
[01:06:56] >> they have different they have different
[01:06:57] problems
[01:06:58] >> they have different problems yeah but
[01:06:59] the French designers
[01:07:00] >> the French designers all have
[01:07:01] >> they liked little boys
[01:07:02] >> harims of catam and they absolutely
[01:07:04] loved Marlene Dietrich forth although I
[01:07:06] don't think that Carl Loggerfeld did
[01:07:07] actually. Uh I think I think Carl
[01:07:09] Loggerfeld um was gay, but I don't think
[01:07:12] he was into it. I think he was one of
[01:07:13] the few that wasn't.
[01:07:14] >> And the way that I know that is because
[01:07:16] he was um uh very unrepentantly and
[01:07:19] joyfully uh racist and sexist and unp he
[01:07:24] didn't seem to be part of the cult that
[01:07:26] of of conformity and uh have you know he
[01:07:29] didn't have anything in common with the
[01:07:30] other I need to believe this. Okay. Um
[01:07:32] you just
[01:07:33] >> I will say this he has not yet come up
[01:07:35] in my research. So there's that.
[01:07:36] >> Okay. So So you you have um uh
[01:07:38] >> but the fashion industry really was
[01:07:40] built upon
[01:07:41] >> You have to allow me my fictions because
[01:07:42] I'll go crazy without them. You we we
[01:07:44] mentioned
[01:07:44] >> I'll allow Carl Agabel to be your
[01:07:46] dinosaur.
[01:07:46] >> We mentioned No, we mentioned on the
[01:07:49] last show that your radical skeptic
[01:07:51] skepticism is the only rational position
[01:07:53] in a world like ours. But I am a
[01:07:56] romantic. I you know I'm a with a
[01:07:59] capital R. Um, you know, and and I I I I
[01:08:03] can't go on with everything taken. I
[01:08:05] must have
[01:08:06] >> Well, Eve Staint Laurent and Pierre Bier
[01:08:08] were into defecation during sex, so
[01:08:10] that's why they
[01:08:11] >> Yeah, them and every Saudi uh I mean, if
[01:08:14] you So, if you've ever seen anyone on
[01:08:15] Instagram that's kind of impossibly
[01:08:17] beautiful and usually um uh mostly
[01:08:20] unclothed, that's a prostitute. They are
[01:08:22] escorts. Uh, and those people go to
[01:08:24] Dubai um a couple times a year to have
[01:08:28] the most extraordinarily depraved things
[01:08:30] done to them in exchange for
[01:08:31] >> this is what these fashion designers
[01:08:33] were into. And so this is as I'm
[01:08:35] researching and and sadly this came up
[01:08:36] when I was learning about Emanuel
[01:08:37] Mcronone difficult to give up the cast
[01:08:39] of characters around them. But learning
[01:08:41] what they were into and a lot of their
[01:08:42] male prostitutes then spoke up and their
[01:08:44] sex slaves. They had these sex slaves.
[01:08:46] But it it is quite stunning. And I bring
[01:08:48] this up only to really underscore that
[01:08:50] our entire society, Hollywood, right,
[01:08:53] was shaped. We were literally all being
[01:08:56] unwittingly indoctrinated into a culture
[01:08:58] of homosexuality, transgenderism, um you
[01:09:02] know, the the belief of the the male and
[01:09:04] the female coming together to form a
[01:09:06] cabal for me because if you lose France,
[01:09:09] you lose Chanel and Dior and those are
[01:09:11] girl brands. Um uh whereas Italy I mean
[01:09:16] it would be devastating to lose uh
[01:09:18] Italian shoes now convinced
[01:09:20] >> so it's it's worse for women to lose
[01:09:22] France because France is the pinnacle of
[01:09:25] female fashion. It's the it's the home
[01:09:26] of oouture right so you know you you
[01:09:29] want one of those extraordinarily
[01:09:30] expensive dresses cut just for you um by
[01:09:33] you know
[01:09:34] >> you should read what they were doing
[01:09:35] like they thought it was in inspiring
[01:09:37] them to be with these young women. I can
[01:09:39] imagine I was ruined. I was gay for long
[01:09:41] enough. I can imagine. Exactly. And this
[01:09:43] this sadistic um treatment of women uh
[01:09:45] putting them you know the whole model
[01:09:47] culture and fashion whatever which
[01:09:49] sometimes is uh directed at the
[01:09:52] beautiful and sensual and uh pleasing
[01:09:54] but more often these days is um a kind
[01:09:57] of uh ugly humiliation and um uh and
[01:10:00] debasement. The things that um and this
[01:10:03] is oh no we got to give up Tyra Banks as
[01:10:05] well because she's part of this. Uh this
[01:10:07] is the entire fashion industry.
[01:10:09] >> I can't handle this much truth. Uh you
[01:10:12] you do you
[01:10:13] >> we know this. It's like you you know we
[01:10:14] look at it now and we're like okay yeah
[01:10:16] everybody in the fashion industry is
[01:10:17] gay. But the humiliation that they put
[01:10:19] women through that the cruelty they put
[01:10:20] the women through in fashion the gay
[01:10:22] men. Why? Because they're visiting the
[01:10:24] um they're visiting the the uh they know
[01:10:26] that their moms did it to them.
[01:10:28] >> Oh I have a question. Yeah I was going
[01:10:29] to ask you this. So something that I
[01:10:30] have noticed. Gay men hate women. Too
[01:10:34] many of them. Not all of them obviously.
[01:10:35] But what I'm saying is that there is a a
[01:10:37] certain level of vitriol that is
[01:10:39] reserved for for women. Where does that
[01:10:42] come from? I don't understand.
[01:10:43] >> It is um they lash out at other women
[01:10:45] because they can't at their mothers who
[01:10:47] did it to them.
[01:10:48] >> So um when when um I I have this I have
[01:10:52] it I have it. I'm not proud of it. Uh I
[01:10:54] I mean sometimes I am because it's funny
[01:10:56] and then I have to kind of catch myself.
[01:10:58] Um uh just the other day I took more
[01:11:02] pleasure than I should more pleasure
[01:11:04] certainly than was charitable in sharing
[01:11:06] the you know sexual history and
[01:11:08] pecadillos of of some Turning Point
[01:11:10] influencer. Um and I I found myself
[01:11:13] posting a picture of a man she had
[01:11:15] public sex with at a TPS USA party um uh
[01:11:20] saying um um I really shouldn't post
[01:11:23] this. She is getting married in 11 days.
[01:11:25] Uh she she she is she was um you know
[01:11:28] and and it
[01:11:31] I mean in retrospect yes it is still
[01:11:33] funny and uh you could you could make a
[01:11:35] case that it's justified but uh I didn't
[01:11:37] do it because I wanted to improve the
[01:11:39] moral standing of women. I did it
[01:11:41] because it was because it was mean.
[01:11:42] >> Yeah. But why do why do gay men have a
[01:11:43] mean? It's because it's because there is
[01:11:46] um there is a there is a a a wound that
[01:11:50] will never heal at the heart of every
[01:11:53] gay person made by their mothers. Um who
[01:12:00] for instance um so you you know that um
[01:12:02] there's a higher self-reported incidence
[01:12:04] of homosexuality in uh black and Jewish
[01:12:08] uh among black and Jewish Americans.
[01:12:10] Yes. You guess why? Right. Well, I
[01:12:12] definitely have noticed that a high
[01:12:14] incident of of a lot of gay people that
[01:12:15] are Jewish
[01:12:16] >> and black
[01:12:16] >> black people, I would imagine, because
[01:12:18] of prison.
[01:12:18] >> No. Well, yes. Fatherlessness. Yes.
[01:12:21] >> Um, so if you have no male role models,
[01:12:23] um, is bad enough, but that's not what
[01:12:25] black kids experience. Black kids
[01:12:27] experience a steady drip feed of poison
[01:12:29] from their own mothers about the male
[01:12:32] role models they should have had, who
[01:12:34] made them. And and and eventually the
[01:12:36] mothers will start visiting this stuff
[01:12:37] on the sons when the sons become
[01:12:39] sufficiently like their dad. when they
[01:12:41] start having sex, when they start
[01:12:42] getting girlfriends, mom starts treating
[01:12:44] the son.
[01:12:45] >> But then what what's the what's the what
[01:12:47] about Jewish people? Because their
[01:12:48] families are together.
[01:12:49] >> What is it? Think about the Jewish
[01:12:50] marriages that you know. Think about the
[01:12:52] couples. You have almost almost
[01:12:54] exclusively. You have larger than life
[01:12:57] rockous women with nebish, scholarly,
[01:13:00] quiet men who take almost no interest in
[01:13:02] the raising of the children. uh and the
[01:13:04] women who are uh so unbearably
[01:13:07] exhaustingly exasperating that he that
[01:13:10] the husbands just let them make all the
[01:13:12] decisions about how the house goes,
[01:13:13] right? Uh and how the house is run. I I
[01:13:16] I I like to compare Jewish um weddings
[01:13:20] to Jewish marriages to lion taming. uh
[01:13:22] you have you know you have this little
[01:13:23] guy and and and it's it's it's um unlike
[01:13:28] the female suffrage let's say in London
[01:13:32] where where it's the men granting it to
[01:13:35] the women are asking for it but it's the
[01:13:37] men that have to give it to them. Uh it
[01:13:39] was Jewish women who appointed
[01:13:41] themselves rabbis who said um uh my
[01:13:44] husband's an idiot. I could be a rabbi,
[01:13:45] you know. Uh
[01:13:46] >> no, the Jewish women were in behind the
[01:13:48] feminist movement in America. They were
[01:13:50] they were behind there were the
[01:13:51] revolution in Russia.
[01:13:53] >> So overbearing mothers
[01:13:55] >> and absent inadequate or neglectful
[01:13:58] fathers, that's a recipe for
[01:13:59] homosexuality.
[01:14:01] uh just as much as um some other more uh
[01:14:05] physically traumatic or psychologically
[01:14:08] traumatic events might be. Uh that
[01:14:11] particular combination, the overbearing
[01:14:14] micromanaging mother who thinks she
[01:14:16] knows best but does not know what a boy
[01:14:18] needs
[01:14:19] and the father who's useless or absent
[01:14:21] or in my case is a killer. You know, um
[01:14:24] that's how you make gays. uh uh crap
[01:14:27] dads and omnipresent um octo mom not
[01:14:31] octo mom but you know we know what I
[01:14:32] mean um boys especially they need a
[01:14:36] father or some kind of male role model
[01:14:38] women cannot raise boys by themselves
[01:14:41] they don't know what men need to to uh
[01:14:43] to form platonic relationships with
[01:14:47] other men because those moms never have
[01:14:49] themselves they've only ever bounced
[01:14:51] from unsatisfactory boyfriend to
[01:14:53] unsatisfactory boyfriend and in most
[01:14:54] cases don't have a good relationship
[01:14:56] ship with their own brothers and
[01:14:57] fathers.
[01:14:57] >> It's actually so interesting. I think
[01:14:59] that the biggest question you can ask
[01:15:00] anyone is what their relationship is
[01:15:02] like with their mother and their father
[01:15:03] because you and this is the reason why
[01:15:04] they're attacking family because when
[01:15:06] you come from a nuclear family, a
[01:15:07] healthy family dynamic, a mother and a
[01:15:09] father
[01:15:10] >> vulnerable to 90% of the warfare.
[01:15:12] >> Yeah. That they're trying to
[01:15:13] >> think about the Catholic family. They
[01:15:15] want to enslave us. So it's like the
[01:15:16] easiest way to enslave any any any
[01:15:19] people destroy their families. Think
[01:15:21] about the Catholic families, you know,
[01:15:23] who aren't converts but have been like
[01:15:24] going to the parish for like 20 years,
[01:15:26] right? Uh how unreachable they are by um
[01:15:32] Lizo or uh or or or or campus rape
[01:15:36] culture or transgender uh uh whatever.
[01:15:41] If they were even to hear of such
[01:15:42] things, which of course they do from
[01:15:43] time to time, they would regard it with
[01:15:45] a mixture of pity, horror, and
[01:15:46] amusement. uh they're completely
[01:15:49] immunized against it because they have
[01:15:52] their needs met by an authentic
[01:15:56] relationship with uh our Lord and each
[01:15:58] other, a healthy family, right? Because
[01:16:00] they have no
[01:16:02] or or or at least less fewer
[01:16:05] dysfunctions, diseases, uh uh mental
[01:16:08] illnesses. Of course, the vast majority
[01:16:09] of me mental illness is just guilt from
[01:16:10] sin. Uh they have less of that because
[01:16:12] they're, you know, going to confession
[01:16:13] every they don't need the beast system.
[01:16:16] They don't need the drugs. They don't
[01:16:18] need to be lied to. They don't need the
[01:16:20] mood fixes. They don't need a car that's
[01:16:23] um uh not even nice but just expensive
[01:16:26] looking and and expensive uh and and uh
[01:16:30] uh um flimsy and on credit, you know,
[01:16:33] Catholic Catholic those Catholic
[01:16:35] families where where um everybody's you
[01:16:37] kind of almost feel awkward to be around
[01:16:38] them. It's like everybody's like so well
[01:16:39] behaved. You know, just don't say
[01:16:41] don't say You know,
[01:16:43] in my brain, of course, it gets much
[01:16:45] worse than that. you know, I'm just like
[01:16:46] I the most depraved thing I can think of
[01:16:47] pops into my head and I just have to
[01:16:48] leave. Um but they're they're not
[01:16:51] tempted at draw. They always they always
[01:16:53] drive um what they drive hoopies, you
[01:16:55] know, uh because that's all you need.
[01:16:56] It's like who cares? Um
[01:16:59] those people who have
[01:17:02] uh a strong family and God, they don't
[01:17:07] need anything that the devil is selling.
[01:17:09] >> So true. You know, it's funny going back
[01:17:11] to what you were saying about the
[01:17:12] transcend transcendentals. I think about
[01:17:14] this even in regards to music. So I I
[01:17:17] can't listen to the music that I used to
[01:17:18] listen to. Suddenly the cursing sounds
[01:17:20] very harsh to me.
[01:17:21] >> What What have you What have you gone
[01:17:22] off?
[01:17:23] >> What did you used to like and don't
[01:17:24] know?
[01:17:25] >> Well, I used to be able to listen to I
[01:17:27] still have it on my phone, but like a
[01:17:28] lot of a lot of swearing, a lot of music
[01:17:31] >> like Well, I listen to everything. I've
[01:17:33] always listened to everything, you know?
[01:17:34] I mean, I grew up listening to Lauren
[01:17:35] Hill and like Whitney Houston. I was
[01:17:37] respectable. Right. Exactly. But what I
[01:17:39] mean is that I I used to be able to
[01:17:41] score I would almost say I actually
[01:17:43] started listening to more rap music when
[01:17:44] I got into college, you know, and even I
[01:17:48] mean so many different songs. Even if I
[01:17:50] go back and listen to when I love
[01:17:51] Christine Aguilera, right? Like a girl
[01:17:53] normal.
[01:17:54] >> But there's something off about her now,
[01:17:55] isn't there?
[01:17:55] >> When you go back and listen to this is
[01:17:58] so sexual and she was 17 years old a
[01:18:01] jean in a bottle that has to be rubbed.
[01:18:03] I'm like this is pornography for her
[01:18:04] ears.
[01:18:05] >> I'm a gene in a bottle. Got to rub me
[01:18:06] the right way.
[01:18:07] >> Yes. and she was 17 years old.
[01:18:09] >> And when you see the dirty video and you
[01:18:10] realize that this is a girl who has been
[01:18:13] wrecked by the entertainment industry
[01:18:14] and they then use her damage to sell sex
[01:18:17] in a different way.
[01:18:18] >> Ariana Grande bended all night. I bended
[01:18:21] all day. And when you actually it takes
[01:18:24] very it actually when you begin
[01:18:26] abstaining it isn't unlike a recovery
[01:18:28] and that it your ears repair your brain
[01:18:31] repairs. Yes. And then but then
[01:18:33] >> so I understand I've never been on a
[01:18:34] diet but I understand you stop listening
[01:18:36] to it even if you stop listening to it
[01:18:38] if you want people are listening at home
[01:18:39] challenge yourself to stop listening to
[01:18:41] maybe all music right for for let's call
[01:18:45] it a month and then go back and try to
[01:18:47] listen to something with exploitives and
[01:18:49] you suddenly go and you know why you
[01:18:51] know why it's Aristotle habits become
[01:18:54] character
[01:18:55] >> we're creatures of routine and habit
[01:18:57] that's why we have to do the rosary why
[01:18:58] we have to go to mass on Sundays it's
[01:19:00] why church is a regular
[01:19:01] >> commit commment and not a one-off. It's
[01:19:04] why um we have to it's why uh um we're
[01:19:08] encouraged to do these uh rituals,
[01:19:10] right? It's why Catholicism is so good
[01:19:12] for drug addicts snapping out of it
[01:19:14] because you can replace the bad rituals
[01:19:16] of the drugs and sex with the um uh
[01:19:19] wholesome rituals of of of things like
[01:19:21] things like the rosary, right? The
[01:19:23] anggeles, whatever. Um
[01:19:25] >> we we are creatures of habit. Indeed,
[01:19:28] half the species are creatures of a
[01:19:30] literal cycle, a a a repeating um uh
[01:19:34] period of time that dictates everything
[01:19:37] about all of our lives, but is also um
[01:19:39] you know, it's kind of the the primary
[01:19:41] way in which we measure time, the
[01:19:43] seasons, the months. You know, uh it's
[01:19:45] because of the natural cycle of
[01:19:47] womanhood. Women find it especially easy
[01:19:49] to follow. So, it's always women that
[01:19:51] you will find, you know, at back at
[01:19:52] church doing the rosaries like every day
[01:19:54] at the same time. Men find it difficult
[01:19:55] to to be consistent about that sometimes
[01:19:57] because they're, you know, out here
[01:19:58] doing this, this, that, and whatever.
[01:20:00] But we're creatures of habit. And so, we
[01:20:03] can make ourselves um you can get
[01:20:06] better. You can get better. Um uh what
[01:20:08] have you been drawn to that you didn't
[01:20:10] used to listen to that you do now? And
[01:20:11] then I'm going to tell you a crazy story
[01:20:13] about um what happened to me when I
[01:20:15] stopped being gay. But uh what have you
[01:20:17] what have you like what what what have
[01:20:18] you sort of started going, okay,
[01:20:21] >> a lot of things. So, first and foremost,
[01:20:22] I would say I did not when we first got
[01:20:25] married and my husband loves the
[01:20:27] chanting, the Gregorian chant.
[01:20:28] >> It's difficult, isn't it? It's a lot to
[01:20:30] take.
[01:20:30] >> It's a lot to take in.
[01:20:31] >> It is. Even I have trouble with it. Uh
[01:20:33] the Anglican tradition is so much more
[01:20:36] uh you know, the royal wedding music um
[01:20:37] I was glad, you know, all the grand uh
[01:20:40] wonderful kind of um pomp and ceremon
[01:20:43] ceremonies and um that is so much easier
[01:20:46] to listen to,
[01:20:46] >> right,
[01:20:47] >> than um the look, a lot of Catholics
[01:20:50] have trouble with Gregorian chant. It is
[01:20:51] for me I still find it more of a
[01:20:53] meditative aid than a than a pleasure I
[01:20:55] seek out.
[01:20:56] >> Right. But I think one of the things
[01:20:57] that I've noticed though is just kind of
[01:20:59] which was what Bishop Beer wrote in his
[01:21:01] book which I think was actually a a
[01:21:03] major contributor to me wanting to be
[01:21:05] Catholic was when he said that anything
[01:21:07] that becomes broken and becomes away
[01:21:10] from being whole goes gets closer to the
[01:21:12] devil. Right? So if you start to break
[01:21:13] down a family, if you start to break
[01:21:15] down music, if you take down, if you
[01:21:16] take anything and you start to fracture
[01:21:18] it, the more fractured it becomes, the
[01:21:20] closer it becomes to the devil, right?
[01:21:21] Holy
[01:21:22] >> syncopation. So syncopation in think
[01:21:25] about it. Holy is also wh L Y, right? It
[01:21:28] can be holy or holy. But you want
[01:21:29] something to be whole, right? And what
[01:21:31] the devil is constantly trying to do is
[01:21:32] to fracture things like whether it's to
[01:21:34] fracture the family.
[01:21:35] >> Certainly.
[01:21:36] >> Yeah. Well, I now think of these two
[01:21:37] terms not unlike each other. When I
[01:21:39] think of holy and I think of holy,
[01:21:40] >> well, the reason Yes. I think that you
[01:21:43] >> this is correct because
[01:21:44] >> you want the family unit to be together.
[01:21:46] You want the church to be together. Even
[01:21:47] if you got Protestantism, what is it?
[01:21:48] It's the constant breaking down. Okay.
[01:21:50] Well, this was this was the church. Now
[01:21:52] we're this and then they break from them
[01:21:54] and then they break from them and then
[01:21:55] it's constantly the greatest the
[01:21:57] greatest sin you can commit aside from
[01:21:59] suicide perhaps is is schism to to
[01:22:01] break. You know, right? Um the the way
[01:22:05] that I think about it, which I think is
[01:22:06] the I think we're saying the same thing
[01:22:07] is um the natural law that underpins our
[01:22:11] uh religious injunctions is everything
[01:22:14] um uh uh is is that things are are are
[01:22:17] correct when everything is um performing
[01:22:19] the function for which it was intended.
[01:22:20] everything in its right place, you know.
[01:22:22] And so, uh, when when things are lifted
[01:22:26] out from or broken apart from their
[01:22:27] their natural habitat and their natural
[01:22:29] function, uh, they set off chain
[01:22:31] reactions of of things going wrong.
[01:22:34] Homosexuality being an example. Um, but
[01:22:36] also, you know, there's there's all
[01:22:37] kinds of um of ways in which
[01:22:40] Christians will say, you know, let one
[01:22:41] sin and the others will follow. And
[01:22:43] they're describing the runaway effects
[01:22:45] of uh breaking a bit off. And that's
[01:22:47] exactly what happens to gay
[01:22:49] personalities um in a in a psychiatric
[01:22:52] sense and it's what happens to um uh
[01:22:55] families uh if the government can do it.
[01:22:58] They'll do you know the
[01:23:01] >> the some of the sickest and most
[01:23:02] depraved things that the government does
[01:23:04] are things that most viewers of your
[01:23:06] program probably won't know about and
[01:23:08] people like us will never encounter uh
[01:23:11] directly in our lives. um the ways in
[01:23:13] which the government treats people um
[01:23:17] when they are down on their luck and
[01:23:19] trying to rebuild some semblance of a
[01:23:21] family unit.
[01:23:22] >> The um penalties, the financial
[01:23:25] penalties and the threat of homelessness
[01:23:28] that is uh dangled over the heads of
[01:23:30] single mothers should they make the
[01:23:31] mistake of getting a boyfriend. You
[01:23:34] know, who could be a dad to their child,
[01:23:36] who could be a husband for them, who
[01:23:38] could, you know, who knows? obviously
[01:23:41] get whatever, but uh they're seeking
[01:23:45] something
[01:23:47] more wholesome, more coherent, more uh
[01:23:51] uh closer to to to you know, and and and
[01:23:54] the state, you know, there's so many
[01:23:55] people in this situation where if you're
[01:23:56] a single mom and you have a kid, you're
[01:23:58] going to lose if if if if there's
[01:24:00] suddenly a live-in man, like you have a
[01:24:01] boyfriend around too much, you could
[01:24:03] lose your your uh social housing and you
[01:24:05] could lose some some or or part of your
[01:24:07] welfare. like the the perverse
[01:24:09] incentives that the system has set up
[01:24:12] >> for the only possible reason to keep
[01:24:14] those people exactly where they are.
[01:24:16] >> Exactly. To enslave people, the Great
[01:24:17] Society exactly where they are, which is
[01:24:18] exactly what it was. They mainstream
[01:24:20] welfare by saying to women, hey, like
[01:24:21] it's a it's a negative incentive, but
[01:24:23] don't marry the father. Don't They
[01:24:24] actually used to send people around to
[01:24:26] examine the homes to make sure there was
[01:24:28] no man living there to make sure that
[01:24:29] there was a single woman.
[01:24:31] >> It still happens. Wow.
[01:24:32] >> Um it still happens. not you know it uh
[01:24:37] I I've acquired through my former
[01:24:39] marriage some uh um marriage you know
[01:24:42] from my former relationship some uh um
[01:24:45] cousins in Philly who live you know much
[01:24:49] closer to that kind of um life than than
[01:24:51] I do and it still happens and people
[01:24:54] live in fear of improving their lot of
[01:24:56] of of making wholesome good choices
[01:25:00] designed to make their lives and their
[01:25:02] kids' lives uh healthier, wealthier,
[01:25:04] happier, more successful because they're
[01:25:07] afraid that they'll get uh they're
[01:25:08] afraid that they won't be able to to to
[01:25:10] survive uh in the in the gap that's that
[01:25:13] that the savagery of the welfare system
[01:25:16] creates, you know,
[01:25:17] >> and it's and it's all on purpose and
[01:25:19] it's all designed to keep them exactly
[01:25:20] where they are. Single mom with a kid at
[01:25:22] home. Uh a kid therefore is being raised
[01:25:26] by um haridans, termagants and and
[01:25:30] witches at school. Uh, and the mom is
[01:25:32] just too wrapped up in keeping the plate
[01:25:35] spinning to be able to think too much
[01:25:38] about what their child will be, uh,
[01:25:42] with, you know, what their aspirations
[01:25:43] might look like or or, you know, where
[01:25:45] the family will be in 10 years.
[01:25:47] >> She's exhausted. And, uh, she still
[01:25:49] doesn't make all the bill payments every
[01:25:51] month. And the kid is, you know, slowly
[01:25:53] being raised by, um, you know, these
[01:25:55] these, uh, um, demons in schools with
[01:25:59] pink hair and pride flags. Yeah.
[01:26:01] >> Uh told if they're a little bit fruy, a
[01:26:04] little bit how do you do? A little bit
[01:26:05] light in the loafers, sugar in the tank,
[01:26:07] as we say. Philly, you know, um that um
[01:26:09] they're not gay. Uh from which there is
[01:26:12] a possibility of uh of recovery, but
[01:26:15] they need to have their penis chopped
[01:26:17] off. And mom is so tired and addicted to
[01:26:21] her prescription medication and so
[01:26:24] exhausted and confused and unhappy,
[01:26:26] miserable, uh, and and and and
[01:26:30] just demoralized and deflated that she
[01:26:34] goes along with it and even maybe finds
[01:26:37] some comfort in it because she didn't
[01:26:38] want to be the woman on the block with a
[01:26:40] gay kid.
[01:26:41] Um, and that is a deliberate
[01:26:44] construction of the people that we're
[01:26:46] talking about, the people behind, you
[01:26:48] know, the the um Anderson Coopers and
[01:26:50] the the Don Lemons and the um uh and the
[01:26:55] Witches of the View now gratefully
[01:26:57] cancelled. It's canceled. Um, just say
[01:27:00] it's canceled. Uh, if I ever see a TV
[01:27:03] guide, I'll just I mean, so my maid has
[01:27:05] been told anything that comes in a
[01:27:06] windowed envelope to just throw it away.
[01:27:08] Uh, I started doing this 10 years ago
[01:27:09] and nothing bad happened so I just kept
[01:27:10] doing it. It's brilliant. Um, you know,
[01:27:12] if if you like really really owe
[01:27:13] somebody money, you find out about it
[01:27:14] eventually. Um, so yeah, so I have I
[01:27:18] have all these kind of silly rules um
[01:27:20] that just keep me amused. So I'm going
[01:27:21] to have uh I'll have the the view cut
[01:27:23] out the TV guy downstairs. Um, it
[01:27:25] doesn't exist. It's gone. It's gone. I
[01:27:27] don't exist. I don't see it. Uh um but
[01:27:30] no this this the these terrible
[01:27:31] situations that so many people are in
[01:27:33] that have been architected
[01:27:36] by
[01:27:38] uh instruments of the prince of the
[01:27:40] power of the air. you know, um it's
[01:27:44] tough to it's tough to um it's tough to
[01:27:46] look at America and not think that we
[01:27:48] are at that precipitous
[01:27:52] crisis at that moment of collapse that
[01:27:56] other empires have have experienced. Um
[01:28:00] 10 years ago, Douglas Murray, who used
[01:28:02] to be so much more interesting than he
[01:28:03] is now, unfortunately, um said, "Uh,
[01:28:06] we're going to be squabbbling over
[01:28:07] transgender pronouns when the Müller is
[01:28:09] nucus." Um, and and you know, what he
[01:28:12] was getting at was this this sort of um
[01:28:14] decadent preoccupation with things we
[01:28:16] shouldn't even be discussing, let alone
[01:28:17] figuring out what the right answer is,
[01:28:18] you know, while we lose sight of
[01:28:20] self-preservation and sanity in a sense
[01:28:23] and everything else. It's it's very
[01:28:24] difficult to look out and not um just
[01:28:27] say, you know what, I'm going to go to
[01:28:28] church and make sure I'm good with God
[01:28:29] and stay away from everybody,
[01:28:31] >> right?
[01:28:32] >> Uh it's it's I've struggled with that
[01:28:34] because, you know, I had I had a um as
[01:28:36] as most people know, you know, I had a a
[01:28:38] little hiccup in 2017 where I was um uh
[01:28:41] found myself on national television
[01:28:43] apologizing for being raped.
[01:28:46] Um
[01:28:46] >> yeah, we should talk about that. That
[01:28:47] maybe not, maybe not, but we don't need
[01:28:48] we don't need to get into the big
[01:28:49] subject. But the point being, I had some
[01:28:51] time to think.
[01:28:52] >> Yeah. And it's been very hard for me to
[01:28:54] motivate myself to do anything in the
[01:28:55] public eye. Now I I have a new career
[01:28:57] now which I like a lot more. Uh and I
[01:29:00] I'm much more content than ever I was
[01:29:02] before. But of course from time to time
[01:29:04] people will say why don't you do this?
[01:29:05] Why don't you do that? Been very
[01:29:06] difficult to motivate myself to get
[01:29:08] excited about any ideas and been big
[01:29:09] money on the table at times uh for me to
[01:29:11] do a show or something. I'm just what
[01:29:13] was the point? I mean Jesus is coming
[01:29:15] back in like 20 minutes.
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[01:31:18] find I I think that if you're good at
[01:31:21] writing and you're good at speaking and
[01:31:22] you understand the world the way that
[01:31:24] you understand it and the problems that
[01:31:25] are and and to have experienced a lot of
[01:31:27] what you've experienced. I mean I'm not
[01:31:28] trying to get you to speak about your
[01:31:29] sexual abuse, but I'm just saying that
[01:31:30] like to have lived that um and to have
[01:31:33] then lived a life of homosexuality and
[01:31:35] then to say okay I woke up one day and I
[01:31:36] realized that I wanted to get into
[01:31:37] heaven. Do you not think it's just as
[01:31:39] important because like you said I
[01:31:41] haven't suffered enough. I al also have
[01:31:42] a moral responsibility for the next 50
[01:31:44] years to help other people. That's
[01:31:45] exactly my worry because
[01:31:46] >> but don't you feel that like if you like
[01:31:48] you said I really I deeply regret that I
[01:31:49] was I married and I'm representing this
[01:31:52] homosexual style.
[01:31:53] >> She's clever. She remember she
[01:31:55] remembered that you said that you regret
[01:31:56] it.
[01:31:57] >> You're so wy. You're so wy. Why wouldn't
[01:31:58] you want to do the opposite and speak
[01:32:01] about these things and just be honest
[01:32:03] about everything that you've lived
[01:32:05] through and what you've done so that you
[01:32:06] people can learn from you. Because if I
[01:32:07] say if I get onto a platform and I say
[01:32:09] you know homosexuality you know you'll
[01:32:12] start living a life of sin. it may not
[01:32:13] have if you're a person who's dealing
[01:32:16] with homosexuality or you're a person
[01:32:17] who's in school and someone's telling
[01:32:18] you you are a homosexual and maybe you
[01:32:20] don't feel like you are a homosexual um
[01:32:22] they may need to hear it from somebody
[01:32:23] else who's lived that way.
[01:32:24] >> I will say this um I have
[01:32:28] had I've lived a life of immense
[01:32:30] privilege unearned genetic advantage.
[01:32:33] Um, you know, I've really I know I've
[01:32:35] I've I've had everything very easy and
[01:32:36] there have been a few things that have
[01:32:38] happened to me in my life that have been
[01:32:39] genuinely terrible and that um most
[01:32:42] people probably wouldn't have dealt with
[01:32:44] uh like I did. Maybe it's because I
[01:32:45] didn't have anything else to worry about
[01:32:46] or maybe I've just built built uh
[01:32:49] resilient, but finding somebody for the
[01:32:52] first time in 35 years that you think uh
[01:32:55] is the first person in in your life that
[01:32:57] loves you back and that uh you know you
[01:32:59] you finally don't feel so alone and
[01:33:00] thinking, well, I might be this, but at
[01:33:01] least I'm kind of whatever. and then
[01:33:03] having to give that person out because
[01:33:04] you realize you're living a um a life
[01:33:06] that's simply not acceptable to God and
[01:33:08] see what it does to that person's life
[01:33:10] and what it does to your life. That was
[01:33:11] the worst thing that I've ever done to
[01:33:12] another person.
[01:33:13] >> Leading your leading is the worst thing
[01:33:15] that's ever happened to me. The worst
[01:33:16] thing I've ever done to other person and
[01:33:18] the worst thing about it was he knew
[01:33:20] already because of course you do. When
[01:33:22] you care about somebody, you can see
[01:33:23] things happening
[01:33:24] >> like it was messing with you
[01:33:25] spiritually.
[01:33:26] >> He could sense that.
[01:33:27] >> He knew that I wasn't in the room
[01:33:29] anymore. I wasn't present in the room
[01:33:30] anymore and that I was having uh some
[01:33:33] kind of crisis about that part of my
[01:33:37] life and he knew already and he'd
[01:33:40] already come to terms with it and he
[01:33:40] done his grieving for the relationship.
[01:33:42] So I'm there like I've just ruined this
[01:33:44] person's life and they're being really
[01:33:45] nice to me and asking me if I'm okay
[01:33:47] because I'm not. Uh and so that was
[01:33:51] horrible. And and you know the priest
[01:33:53] thing I said I shouldn't say it again
[01:33:56] and get cancelceled for another 10 years
[01:33:57] but I will. Um, in common with a lot of
[01:34:00] people that this happens to, I didn't
[01:34:01] perceive it as being as bad at the time
[01:34:04] as the effect it I now realize it had on
[01:34:06] me, right? It wasn't like a it wasn't a
[01:34:09] a violent brutal situation, right? And I
[01:34:12] didn't know until after I got cancelled.
[01:34:15] Thanks. Um, you know, when I had to time
[01:34:17] >> that you had started loving your victim,
[01:34:18] not loving your not only your oppressor,
[01:34:19] I mean like
[01:34:20] >> that that I I didn't realize that it was
[01:34:23] responsible for so much of me that was
[01:34:25] wrong, right? And and what it had done
[01:34:27] to me. I thought I kind of got away with
[01:34:28] it. I even sort of thought, well, kind
[01:34:30] of think I was sort of the sexual
[01:34:31] aggressor in that situation, you know.
[01:34:33] Uh I didn't realize what it had the the
[01:34:35] the what it had left me with
[01:34:38] >> to to have that and then you know the
[01:34:40] husband and then and then I have I have
[01:34:42] a lot of health problems now too. Um
[01:34:44] going blind and god knows what else. Uh
[01:34:47] I I used I joke with my spiritual
[01:34:49] director that um uh when I get to heaven
[01:34:51] I'm going to march up to our Lord and
[01:34:52] say uh I want an apology. Say you're
[01:34:53] sorry.
[01:34:55] And he says, um, well, our Lord will
[01:34:57] outstretch his hands and you will see
[01:34:58] his stigmatra and you will feel
[01:34:59] profoundly ashamed for the, uh, fraction
[01:35:01] of a second uh, before you plunge down
[01:35:03] into the lake of fire. Don't do that
[01:35:05] when you get to heaven. I'm just
[01:35:06] kidding. Uh, but I have felt like that
[01:35:08] sometimes. I have had that difficult
[01:35:10] relationship where I'm like, haven't you
[01:35:11] done enough? Like, are we not good?
[01:35:13] Like, uh, uh, enough? And I I've said to
[01:35:16] a few people recently, which always
[01:35:18] upsets them, but I mean it. It's like,
[01:35:20] I'm ready to be with Jesus. Like, I'm
[01:35:21] tired, you know? Like, I'm good. But I I
[01:35:23] have a feeling and there's a reason for
[01:35:25] this which is a horrible gruesome reason
[01:35:26] um that you won't want to hear but I'm
[01:35:27] tell you anyway uh that unfortunately I
[01:35:30] think he has plans for me to be here for
[01:35:32] many decades yet doing something along
[01:35:33] the lines you suggest. Um when I all gay
[01:35:37] sex is a humiliation is an exercise in
[01:35:39] humiliation and in um self harm. In my
[01:35:42] case, it was particularly so um uh
[01:35:45] wanting to be physically subjugated by a
[01:35:48] much stronger, larger man. And I uh
[01:35:51] settled on African-American men as being
[01:35:54] um the uh uh sort of athletic um hyper
[01:35:58] masculine thing that was was doing it
[01:35:59] for me. And in the course of um you know
[01:36:03] over 20 years I guess it would be 20
[01:36:06] yeah 20 years of being an active
[01:36:07] homosexual I mean I had a lot of sex and
[01:36:10] a lot of unprotected sex with a lot of
[01:36:12] people from a group um where half of all
[01:36:16] of them get AIDS.
[01:36:17] >> 50% of gay black men get HIV. and I've
[01:36:21] done the math
[01:36:23] and it um breaks every law of maths,
[01:36:28] physics, biology and chemistry uh that I
[01:36:31] don't have HIV. It is mathematically
[01:36:33] impossible that I don't have it but I
[01:36:35] don't.
[01:36:35] >> Mhm.
[01:36:36] >> And that is uh that is a god thing.
[01:36:40] >> Yeah,
[01:36:40] >> that is a god thing. Um because it would
[01:36:42] have been an easy way out. I would Oh
[01:36:45] yeah, yeah, fine. Sure. You're gonna
[01:36:46] spread that misery around to others. be
[01:36:48] a participant in their um uh in their
[01:36:52] sin as well, you know, because because
[01:36:55] you you're two people doing it to each
[01:36:56] other at the same time as you're doing
[01:36:57] it to yourself. Uh and then you're going
[01:36:59] to make it okay to be a gay Republican,
[01:37:01] which is really bad, Milo. And then
[01:37:03] you're just going to you're just going
[01:37:04] to get to that. No, no. You've got five
[01:37:05] long decades of making it. So I I know I
[01:37:07] know I know I'm I'm dragging my feet at
[01:37:09] the moment because I'm I'm enjoying this
[01:37:11] kind of um interregnum fiction of being
[01:37:14] retired when in actual fact you know who
[01:37:16] I work for and I'm like walking like a
[01:37:17] dog all day every day. Um but I enjoy
[01:37:20] the you know I always like to make it
[01:37:21] look easy. So I always have I always try
[01:37:23] to have an air of studied nonlints. Um
[01:37:25] so I try to I I like to have this uh um
[01:37:27] I have this sort of um uh thing I like
[01:37:30] Oh no I'm retired. I'm retired. I'm
[01:37:31] retired. Sorry you don't deserve me. I'm
[01:37:32] retired. Yeah. But I I know that at some
[01:37:34] point uh it will have to happen.
[01:37:36] >> Yeah, I think so. I mean, I I would
[01:37:38] definitely
[01:37:39] >> like Augustine, not yet.
[01:37:41] >> Well, you'll know. I think you'll know
[01:37:42] when the moment comes. I think God puts
[01:37:44] people in certain in their path for a
[01:37:46] reason. And I think you've lived
[01:37:47] >> right now. I know he wants me to do what
[01:37:48] I'm doing now because the person that
[01:37:50] I'm working for needs me in certain
[01:37:51] ways. Um and I and I'm I'm I'm I I know
[01:37:54] that I have to finish that task.
[01:37:56] >> But after that, it'll be time to uh
[01:37:59] return to my duties.
[01:38:00] >> Yeah, exactly. I think so. And next time
[01:38:02] you're going to be I think you're going
[01:38:03] to be completely sober in a few years.
[01:38:05] Sober from everywhere.
[01:38:06] >> I'll never be that.
[01:38:07] >> No. Come on. The English can get sober.
[01:38:08] >> I'm British. Look, we it's that would be
[01:38:11] like saying go to a therapist. It's
[01:38:12] ridiculous.
[01:38:13] >> Um what we do instead is we we bury it.
[01:38:15] We bury it. We bury it. We drink and we
[01:38:17] invade Ghana. Uh you know um no we there
[01:38:20] will be um there will never be a day
[01:38:22] when I don't um uh you know I'm getting
[01:38:25] better. I will say this. Look, Adderall
[01:38:27] got me off cocaine. Um, I I continually
[01:38:30] get I continually take steps in in uh
[01:38:33] good, positive, healthy directions. Uh,
[01:38:35] I found myself being irritated with the
[01:38:38] fact that uh uh a medication I was on
[01:38:41] was getting in the way of my prayer life
[01:38:42] and I was like, "Oh my god, who am I?
[01:38:44] Who have I become just because I was
[01:38:46] like stumbling over my words and I was
[01:38:48] like, this is annoying. Oh god, you pick
[01:38:50] the pick the narcotics or the or the
[01:38:52] blessed mother. Milo, who are you?" Um,
[01:38:55] so, so I have confronted with those
[01:38:56] kinds of things now and normally don't
[01:38:59] disappoint myself. Uh, but you will
[01:39:02] prize a pogrigio out of my cold dead
[01:39:04] hands, girl. Uh, it is it is part of our
[01:39:08] holiest ceremony.
[01:39:10] >> Um, uh, wine is is it is it is a uh it
[01:39:14] is um the substance that our Lord ch has
[01:39:17] chosen to uh manifest in. It is um uh
[01:39:21] drinking is Catholic. Uh Catholics
[01:39:24] drink. That's all there is to it. I have
[01:39:26] never trusted tea total people. I regard
[01:39:28] anybody who doesn't drink with extreme
[01:39:30] suspicion um and and and contempt
[01:39:33] honestly to be honest with you, which is
[01:39:34] really everyone in America. But uh uh so
[01:39:37] many nobody nobody drinks anymore. I was
[01:39:38] very reassured to hear that you had a
[01:39:40] glass of wine under social pressure,
[01:39:41] which means that you are not one of
[01:39:42] those people.
[01:39:43] >> I did have a glass of wine under social
[01:39:45] pressure.
[01:39:45] >> You did. You did. Um, but a one solitary
[01:39:47] glass of wine your whole life is not
[01:39:48] going to do too much damage, especially
[01:39:50] but but um that's reassuring because it
[01:39:52] means you're not one of the bad guys.
[01:39:54] But there are people who would have said
[01:39:55] no.
[01:39:56] >> Honestly, now I probably would say no.
[01:39:58] It's it's just part of being a mom. You
[01:39:59] got to be Now you got an excuse. You got
[01:40:02] I have to be up early with the cats, but
[01:40:03] I am still going to drink myself to
[01:40:05] sleep. No, look, um I I'm not going to
[01:40:09] say that I have like the perfect uh uh
[01:40:12] clean and pious life. I don't. But I
[01:40:14] will say um within very narrow limits uh
[01:40:18] I do you know I do like a drink or
[01:40:20] whatever and and to some extent it is a
[01:40:24] uh I'm not making excuses for for you
[01:40:26] know this is classic sinner move about
[01:40:28] to happen here. Well, really, it's
[01:40:30] because it stops me doing this worse
[01:40:31] thing. Uh, but it does. Uh, you know,
[01:40:33] uh, the fact, you know, having a couple
[01:40:34] glasses of wine, go to sleep, uh,
[01:40:36] instead of being up all night like I
[01:40:37] would have been before. Uh, and 3:00
[01:40:39] a.m. when the, you know,
[01:40:41] >> 3:00 a.m. is the witching hour for your
[01:40:42] libido. Uh, you know, um,
[01:40:45] >> uh, instead having drifted off nicely
[01:40:47] after a whiskey with a, you know, a cat
[01:40:48] in my arm and a book on my on my lap.
[01:40:50] That for me is a way better way to end
[01:40:53] the day than, um, spending six hours
[01:40:55] tossing and turning, wrestling with a,
[01:40:56] you know, the seaman demon. Um so so uh
[01:40:59] sorry um so I I have to call him that
[01:41:02] because um I found that the most
[01:41:05] effective way to leave things behind was
[01:41:06] to make them ridiculous
[01:41:08] >> so that it was like sort of preposterous
[01:41:10] that I can't even imagine myself doing
[01:41:11] it um like sex with black people and
[01:41:14] black are you crazy like I I tried to
[01:41:17] make it into a joke and now I kind of
[01:41:19] like laugh when I hear it so it sort of
[01:41:20] feels like it was somebody else. Um uh
[01:41:23] so you know I just turned everything
[01:41:24] into sort of an um I turned everything
[01:41:26] into into an absurdity that is absurd
[01:41:29] that is disordered you know so so that
[01:41:32] that was helpful for me because I you
[01:41:33] know it's difficult to um to stay horny
[01:41:35] when you're laughing. Uh so
[01:41:40] although the British and anyway um so so
[01:41:43] you know I I think I have um maybe a
[01:41:45] prematurely geriatric
[01:41:47] uh life and routine from which I will uh
[01:41:51] emerge one day. But right now, while I'm
[01:41:54] staying on the straight and narrow, not
[01:41:56] falling off the wagon as far as the gay
[01:41:58] stuff goes and um continuing to, you
[01:42:02] know, put in a good day's work for our
[01:42:04] friend and uh and and getting better
[01:42:08] with my spiritual life all the time. I
[01:42:10] mean, I learned Latin for goodness sake.
[01:42:12] Um fantastic. Drug addicts don't learn
[01:42:14] Latin in their spare time. Uh but I got
[01:42:17] a tutor for three years and and now I I
[01:42:19] can translate the gospels and I
[01:42:20] understand the liturgies. It is amazing.
[01:42:22] >> That is truly amazing.
[01:42:23] >> It is amazing. It is amazing. It's the
[01:42:25] best thing I ever did in my whole life.
[01:42:26] Um it is amazing.
[01:42:28] >> Uh uh that kind of stuff I think is
[01:42:31] really important to me to have like a a
[01:42:34] decade off.
[01:42:36] Look, I'm a self-indulgent uh lazy piece
[01:42:38] of you know what. I know um uh my I have
[01:42:40] the personality I have gay or straight
[01:42:42] but um I'm self-indulgent but uh I have
[01:42:46] tried to use the self-indulgent time
[01:42:49] somewhat wisely um and uh I think I have
[01:42:54] when I come back I'm going to be deadly
[01:42:56] but um
[01:42:58] >> well Milo no one's ever doubted that
[01:42:59] that you're brilliant and and so what
[01:43:01] you'll fill your time with
[01:43:02] >> it's very it's it's it's uh it's
[01:43:04] exhausting you know it's it's
[01:43:05] suffocating I've always wanted to be
[01:43:07] more oblivious you know I wanted to go
[01:43:08] through life, you know, like a like a
[01:43:09] woman or or um or or or an ethnic
[01:43:12] minority, just sort of enjoying the the
[01:43:14] sort of drift. Um but always been sort
[01:43:16] of hyper aware and sort of just just
[01:43:19] meandering through life, you know. Um
[01:43:21] you don't have that, but but uh um you
[01:43:23] know, just sort of just I don't know. I
[01:43:25] can't remember if I parked on the third
[01:43:26] or the fourth floor. I would love not to
[01:43:28] remember details. I would love not to
[01:43:30] notice things. I would love not to um
[01:43:34] like draw connections. I would love I'd
[01:43:36] love it if I didn't know when people
[01:43:37] close to me were lying to me. And I
[01:43:39] always do
[01:43:40] >> uh because I have this pattern matching
[01:43:41] brain that notices everything they're
[01:43:42] doing. I'm like, why are you lying to
[01:43:44] me? Maybe there's a good reason, but it
[01:43:45] makes me sad every time. Uh and um and I
[01:43:48] would love to take all those dials down.
[01:43:51] You know, it's a great curse to be um um
[01:43:55] uh you know, witty, brilliant, handsome,
[01:43:57] um popular, and successful. Um there's a
[01:44:01] I there's a there's a great line in um a
[01:44:05] David Brooks book or something about um
[01:44:08] uh how Disney punishes athletic kids
[01:44:10] because it tells these ugly duckly ugly
[01:44:11] duckling failings to which they cannot
[01:44:13] possibly relate and you know sort of
[01:44:14] it's the popular athletic kids at school
[01:44:16] who are the raw victims because they
[01:44:17] don't have any stories that tell
[01:44:20] that that speak to their lives. It's all
[01:44:21] about like, you know, uh um uh it's all
[01:44:24] about um losers and and also rounds and
[01:44:26] all. Where's where's the kids book for
[01:44:28] the for the cheerleader? Where's the
[01:44:30] kids book for the the quarterback? Um I
[01:44:32] like to say, you know, I've I've lived a
[01:44:34] life of um of uh of extraordinary ease
[01:44:37] and privilege, but I've never allowed
[01:44:39] that to stand in my way.
[01:44:42] Um, no. I I I I think um I know when I
[01:44:46] have conversations with people like you
[01:44:47] who are um insightful and um uh and and
[01:44:51] have integrity and gently in that lovely
[01:44:54] uh way remind me I've got lots left to
[01:44:56] do.
[01:44:57] >> Yeah. I'm I'm in such mom mode. I'm
[01:44:58] always moming everyone.
[01:44:59] >> No, but I need that because I didn't
[01:45:00] have I didn't have a nice mom. I had I
[01:45:02] had a cocaine addict. So, you know, I
[01:45:04] didn't have a mother. I had a I had um
[01:45:05] >> because you can do better. That's it.
[01:45:07] It's like you know if you we all can do
[01:45:09] better. So, let me make it seem like I'm
[01:45:11] excusing myself from that, but you're
[01:45:13] brilliant and I obviously a lot of my
[01:45:16] political philosophy or the beginning of
[01:45:18] my political philosophy really began
[01:45:19] with reading you when you were on
[01:45:21] Breitbart. And I know you have a lot to
[01:45:22] contribute and I got I got to read the
[01:45:24] the political side, but you've lived
[01:45:25] through a lot, you know, being a sex
[01:45:27] abuse victim, someone
[01:45:28] >> I feel like Lauren Hill. I can't do a
[01:45:29] second album after this much pressure.
[01:45:31] >> I know.
[01:45:32] >> But you're I I do think your voice is
[01:45:34] missing. I think there's a lot of people
[01:45:35] that could
[01:45:36] >> I will tell you this. a decade of
[01:45:38] imitators and really nobody comes close.
[01:45:41] U it's been very sad, very tragic to
[01:45:43] watch. You've blossomed remarkably and
[01:45:45] beautifully um into somebody very
[01:45:48] formidable. Uh and a couple of other
[01:45:50] people have but other than that
[01:45:53] >> it's quite a sorry field, isn't it?
[01:45:54] >> It's starting to look like our
[01:45:55] architecture.
[01:45:57] >> Yeah. No, but no, it's it's flimsy.
[01:46:00] No, I mean you look at
[01:46:01] >> it's getting really it's really basic
[01:46:03] out there. the the standard I mean the
[01:46:05] standard of discourse on the
[01:46:07] conservative
[01:46:07] >> not interesting at all.
[01:46:08] >> It's it's 20 IQ points lower even than
[01:46:10] it was in 2015.
[01:46:11] >> It's so basic.
[01:46:12] >> We were smart in 2015. Starter pack. We
[01:46:14] were funny. We were smart and now you
[01:46:16] know.
[01:46:16] >> Interesting.
[01:46:17] >> Yeah. And now you have like three clans
[01:46:19] and one of them just says Jew all day
[01:46:21] and one of them says this and one of
[01:46:22] them says that. It's just it's so
[01:46:24] intolerably dull. Boring.
[01:46:26] >> Not one of them has been ever been to an
[01:46:28] art gallery. Not one of them has ever
[01:46:30] read a real book. Um, you know, I mean,
[01:46:32] I I will I will I will eat this mic if
[01:46:35] uh you know, if if it emerges that Nick
[01:46:38] Fes has ever read any book cover to
[01:46:40] cover like these people don't know
[01:46:41] anything and it's so so it does
[01:46:43] frustrating
[01:46:50] mine and then I retired so much it's
[01:46:52] it's my fault.
[01:46:53] >> Once you have a platform and and you're
[01:46:54] in that feedback loop and people are
[01:46:56] like you're amazing, you're great.
[01:46:58] >> Maybe people stop learning. They don't
[01:46:59] they become less interested. I think
[01:47:00] that they've arrived at the end the
[01:47:01] conclusion and
[01:47:02] >> another thing I did is I did I did write
[01:47:04] a lot of bad books for other people
[01:47:06] >> um uh which has contributed to the
[01:47:09] general collapse in standards um because
[01:47:12] I I've been ghostwriting in those 10
[01:47:13] years and and um and you know uh the
[01:47:18] kinds of people you're ghostwriting for,
[01:47:20] they're not intellectuals.
[01:47:21] >> Uh and and so you know I think I think
[01:47:23] I've really is all my fault, isn't it?
[01:47:26] >> Yeah.
[01:47:26] >> I made it I made it dumb, fake, and gay.
[01:47:28] >> Yeah. I think that is actually a perfect
[01:47:30] place to end it. It's all It's all
[01:47:32] Milo's fault. He has made everything
[01:47:34] dumb. I have given America my gay gay
[01:47:36] and this is the problem that we find
[01:47:38] ourselves in in American society.
[01:47:39] Everything is dumb, fake, and gay
[01:47:40] because of Milianopoulos.
[01:47:41] >> I'm so sorry.
[01:47:42] >> It could have been better. I'm sorry you
[01:47:44] guys. Sorry.
[01:47:44] >> I'm going to buy a castle in Hungary and
[01:47:46] you know, wish you the best.
[01:47:49] >> Milo, thank you so much for joining.
[01:47:51] We're definitely going to have you back.
[01:47:52] >> Thank you, love.
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