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[00:00:01] newly selected president in Lebanon as [00:00:05] well as King Abdullah in Jordan before [00:00:07] coming here and I think we are at the [00:00:10] cusp of a potentially enormous [00:00:12] opportunity Israel to its great credit [00:00:16] has broken Iran's a axis Iran is [00:00:21] recognized throughout the region as the [00:00:23] common Scourge and enemy and the [00:00:27] progress made in Lebanon and in Gaza [00:00:31] presents that kind of opportunity for [00:00:36] a real Prospect of peace and potential [00:00:39] progress for the region as a whole but [00:00:43] Lebanon needs [00:00:46] support the Lebanese Armed Forces should [00:00:50] be supported by the United States much [00:00:53] more than they have been because they [00:00:55] are the institution that can [00:00:58] preserve the victories that have been [00:01:01] accomplished against Hezbollah which are [00:01:05] so important to Israel as the Prime [00:01:07] Minister emphasized to us today and he [00:01:09] strongly supports the United States [00:01:12] being more [00:01:15] forcefully supportive of the Lebanese [00:01:18] armed [00:01:19] forces and I'll be very [00:01:24] blunt my view is that the Trump plan is [00:01:28] a non plan it's a hot mess [00:01:31] the possibility of takeover by the [00:01:33] United States is a nonstarter I think [00:01:37] for most of us a takeover involving any [00:01:41] troops any taxpayer dollars is [00:01:45] simply a [00:01:46] nonstarter but the encouraging Point [00:01:50] here is that the Arab states will be [00:01:54] presenting a [00:01:55] plan to the [00:01:57] president my talks with King Abdullah [00:02:00] convinced me that the plan that the Arab [00:02:04] states will offer to president [00:02:08] Trump provides a realistic Prospect for [00:02:12] normalizing relations self-determination [00:02:14] by the Palestinians Regional defense [00:02:17] arrangements and security for Israel if [00:02:20] those components are part of [00:02:23] a realistic plan it could be a [00:02:27] GameChanger for [00:02:30] the [00:02:31] region and finally let me just say as [00:02:35] always uh for me and I think for many in [00:02:38] our delegation the most powerfully [00:02:40] moving part of our trip was our [00:02:42] conversation with the hostages [00:02:46] obviously the accomplishments of the IDF [00:02:50] and the Israeli intelligence Community [00:02:52] are simply awesome particularly the [00:02:55] destruction using cell phones and pagers [00:02:58] and Lebanon the progress made against [00:03:01] Hezbollah and against [00:03:04] Hamas should impress anyone with [00:03:07] military or intelligence knowledge but [00:03:11] the hostage families in their courage [00:03:15] and strength their determination [00:03:16] perseverance are beyond words in the way [00:03:21] that they affected me when I first came [00:03:26] here a couple of weeks after October [00:03:29] oober 6 I think it was the high point or [00:03:33] meeting with them at that moment and [00:03:36] again [00:03:37] today so the urgency of returning the [00:03:40] hostages continually is on my mind and [00:03:43] my [00:03:44] heart and uh I think it they will be [00:03:48] with me when I go back to the United [00:03:53] States a little bit of housekeeping [00:03:56] first in uh less than 20 2 4 hours our [00:04:01] delegation has had meetings with the [00:04:03] defense minister the foreign minister [00:04:06] the speaker of the caness and the Prime [00:04:08] Minister and his team so first of all [00:04:12] our thanks to the Israeli government for [00:04:14] making such a significant uh element of [00:04:19] Israeli leadership available to us in a [00:04:21] short time period uh second this is [00:04:25] actually a pretty cool delegation as [00:04:29] Senate delegations go anyway Lindsey [00:04:32] Graham has been working intensely hard [00:04:36] to try to solve problems here in the mid [00:04:39] East and I am very proud to be [00:04:41] associated with him dick Blumenthal has [00:04:43] been working with him very carefully [00:04:45] showing both bipartisanship and [00:04:47] extraordinary diligence they've both [00:04:49] been here over and over and over again [00:04:51] dick started coming to Israel when he [00:04:52] was 11 years old joonie Ernst has been [00:04:56] the conscience of the Senate with [00:04:58] respect to hostages and is extremely [00:05:00] knowledgeable over here all the time her [00:05:03] colleague Dan Sullivan couldn't be with [00:05:04] us this evening because he has another [00:05:06] speaking engagement but he is also a [00:05:08] very frequent traveler to this area very [00:05:12] strong on uh Regional [00:05:14] issues uh Adam Schiff spent very [00:05:18] important years as the head of the house [00:05:20] intelligence committee and is deeply [00:05:22] versed in the issues in this part of the [00:05:24] world and Andy Kim as a former Foreign [00:05:27] Service Officer really knows how uh [00:05:30] diplomacy is done so it's been a great [00:05:32] honor for me to be with everyone and [00:05:34] that's kind of the background for uh the [00:05:36] delegation the one point that I will [00:05:38] make is that one of the purposes we have [00:05:41] had in coming here has been to on the [00:05:45] one hand make sure that Israel is able [00:05:50] to zero out its continuing risk of Hamas [00:05:55] attack out of [00:05:56] Gaza but in doing so not irreparably [00:06:02] disrupt the really important ongoing [00:06:05] peace framework that has been developed [00:06:08] among Israel's neighbors deconflict [00:06:12] those two imperatives is going to be the [00:06:15] key to the Region's success and we've [00:06:18] been here trying to encourage that uh [00:06:20] and with that let me turn it over to [00:06:22] Senator Ernst number one you will be [00:06:24] invited back that was [00:06:27] good thank you and to I will also share [00:06:30] my thanks for the Israeli government for [00:06:34] making these meetings happen today but [00:06:36] first and foremost um I want to say [00:06:38] thank you to the hostage families that [00:06:40] joined us this afternoon and again [00:06:43] shared their concerns uh their their [00:06:46] feelings of loss and [00:06:49] sacrifice uh for those that are still [00:06:51] being held those that are now deceased [00:06:54] is quite palpable we feel it uh to our [00:06:57] very core uh the uh the urgency they [00:07:02] asked us to communicate it is uh [00:07:05] necessary that we bring our hostages [00:07:07] home today uh so as soon as possible so [00:07:12] the past several years I've traveled [00:07:14] extensively here in the Middle East and [00:07:18] since October 7th um I have been in the [00:07:22] country now five times uh working on [00:07:26] hostage issues other issues when it [00:07:28] comes to the peace treaty and uh [00:07:32] strengthening our Abraham Accords uh [00:07:35] what I have heard from many leaders not [00:07:38] just here in Israel but with Arab [00:07:40] Nations is a question they will ask me [00:07:43] where is American [00:07:45] leadership we make no doubt about it [00:07:49] folks that in the last several weeks we [00:07:52] have seen American leadership it is [00:07:56] present once again so first again [00:08:01] hostages must come home [00:08:04] now now and this threat is not just [00:08:08] against Hamas but it's their backers [00:08:12] Iran there is a Common Thread through [00:08:15] the Middle [00:08:17] East those that see Iran as an enemy [00:08:21] which would be not only Israel but also [00:08:25] our Arab partners and allies [00:08:29] Iran listen very [00:08:32] clearly we will put maximum pressure on [00:08:36] you and we will work with our Israeli [00:08:40] Partners to make sure you do not succeed [00:08:45] economically militarily politically in [00:08:49] this [00:08:50] region so we will continue to be the [00:08:54] absolute partner to Israel and our [00:08:57] friends and partners here in the region [00:09:00] absolute there is no daylight between [00:09:04] Israel and the United States of America [00:09:07] bring our hostages home now in Iran [00:09:11] Hamas we are coming for you Senator [00:09:17] sh chairman Graham I want to join and [00:09:20] thank you for organizing this delegation [00:09:24] uh it is really an honor to be back in [00:09:25] Israel a country that I feel a very deep [00:09:28] personal connection [00:09:29] with um it [00:09:32] was very very moving as uh Senator Ernst [00:09:36] was saying for us to meet with families [00:09:38] of the [00:09:39] hostages uh to hear the 500 Days of hell [00:09:43] that they have been through uh none of [00:09:46] us can imagine what that is [00:09:49] like and being here again uh one feels [00:09:52] the collective sense of trauma that the [00:09:55] nation has been through and continues to [00:09:57] be going through uh and I just want to [00:10:00] underscore what my colleagues have said [00:10:02] that you are not alone uh the United [00:10:04] States stands shoulder-to-shoulder with [00:10:07] Israel we have [00:10:10] been uh so devastated not only by the [00:10:14] the magnitude of the horror that was [00:10:16] inflicted on [00:10:18] Israel um 500 days ago but also by the [00:10:23] incredible wave of anti-Semitism it [00:10:26] Unleashed around the world all too much [00:10:28] of which we have experienced in the [00:10:30] United States as well um a surge of [00:10:34] anti-Semitism which I know must [00:10:36] contribute to a sense in Israel of of [00:10:39] being alone but we want to underscore [00:10:42] that you are not alone uh you have a [00:10:45] very powerful friend and Ally standing [00:10:47] with you and that is the United States [00:10:48] of America Hamas can never be allowed to [00:10:52] pose a military threat to Israel again [00:10:54] Hamas cannot be allowed to govern or [00:10:57] oppose any kind of um Authority in Gaza [00:11:01] or anywhere else again uh that is a [00:11:06] nonstarter I do think it is [00:11:08] important to think about where Israel [00:11:13] wants this to end up uh it is hard to [00:11:16] know how to prosecute a war without [00:11:18] knowing for sure where you want the end [00:11:20] to be and although I know this is a [00:11:23] unpopular idea in Israel I believe that [00:11:26] ultimately the way to a lasting peace [00:11:29] will require two [00:11:30] states uh what the attributes of a [00:11:33] Palestinian state will be will have to [00:11:35] be the subject of [00:11:37] negotiation but I hope [00:11:41] that after Hamas is no longer a threat [00:11:45] to Israel or anywhere else in the world [00:11:48] uh I hope that when security not just a [00:11:53] sense of security by Israelis but the [00:11:55] reality of security for Israel has been [00:11:58] restored [00:11:59] that we can once again think about what [00:12:02] the future uh can look like uh that we [00:12:05] can help achieve together uh and once [00:12:08] again just a great honor and privilege [00:12:10] to to be here in Israel thank [00:12:17] you thank you Senator Graham and to my [00:12:20] colleagues uh for letting me be a part [00:12:23] of such an important trip where we were [00:12:26] able to travel to the m security [00:12:27] conference come here and raise up the [00:12:30] profile of these issues for those that [00:12:32] don't know me I'm Senator Andy Kim and I [00:12:34] have to just say it was immensely [00:12:36] powerful to be able to stand here [00:12:38] alongside Israel commemorating 500 Days [00:12:41] since the attacks on from on October 7th [00:12:46] uh to grieve to remember and I think it [00:12:49] was important to raise up to remember [00:12:51] the over 40 Americans that were brutally [00:12:53] killed on that day and then the hostages [00:12:55] that we are seeking to have released and [00:12:59] as the senator from New Jersey my [00:13:02] responsibility is certainly first and [00:13:03] foremost as well with my own constituent [00:13:07] the Alexander family Adon Alexander that [00:13:10] is a name that I raised in every single [00:13:13] meeting that I had [00:13:15] today and the fact that we also had a [00:13:17] chance to sit down with his mother and [00:13:20] hear from the families of the hostages [00:13:22] what they really wanted to express is [00:13:23] that hostages are not [00:13:26] leverage they should not be used in that [00:13:28] type of me means for such critical [00:13:31] purposes right now is seeking peace and [00:13:33] security and the fact that they are is [00:13:36] Despicable so we call for the immediate [00:13:38] release of all remaining hostages Adon [00:13:41] and every single one of those left [00:13:44] remaining and what we really wanted to [00:13:47] be able to press forward and again these [00:13:49] were the words of the families of the [00:13:50] hostages they said this is a moment [00:13:52] right now there is a moment right now in [00:13:55] this diplomatic window to be able to [00:13:56] push forward for the release of all [00:13:59] and as we had these meetings as well [00:14:02] with so many different leaders it's also [00:14:04] clear that there is a window right now [00:14:06] to try to push forward on a regional [00:14:08] solution one that hopefully can build [00:14:11] towards an enduring security and we're [00:14:12] not being naive we certainly see things [00:14:15] as they are and the challenges that are [00:14:17] there and protecting Israel's right to [00:14:19] defend itself to be able to ensure that [00:14:22] Hamas doesn't pose a threat and they are [00:14:23] not in political or military control in [00:14:26] Gaza or [00:14:27] elsewhere but we have to to make sure [00:14:29] that we're pushing for that longer [00:14:31] enduring security to to seek the kind of [00:14:35] stability that we want with Israel with [00:14:37] the Palestinian people and for all in [00:14:40] the region thank you again for letting [00:14:41] me be a part of [00:14:43] this take a couple of quick [00:14:47] questions he he was first thank [00:14:52] you thank you Senator um my question is [00:14:56] uh regarding uh la I just wrote [00:15:02] it yes so where things stand in terms of [00:15:05] normalization efforts between Saudi [00:15:07] Arabia and Israel and are they still [00:15:09] demanding Israeli commitment for a [00:15:11] Palestinian State and another question [00:15:14] how effective do you think the sanctions [00:15:17] that President Trump has imposed on the [00:15:19] IC in terms of dropping the arrest [00:15:21] warrants against Nat I am bikin from [00:15:25] my24 news I'll take a shot it jump in so [00:15:29] the Prime Minister said the biggest [00:15:31] threat to the state of Israel is a [00:15:33] nuclear arm to [00:15:35] run because they will kill all the Jews [00:15:37] with the nuke if they get it I believe [00:15:40] that so they can't get one and they [00:15:42] could use it if they had more than one [00:15:45] against Arabs against us so second to [00:15:49] that was the [00:15:50] IC I mean look at all the threats the [00:15:52] nation of Israel faces he believed that [00:15:55] the international criminal court [00:15:56] claiming jurisdiction over the state of [00:15:59] of Israel a non-member to be prosecuted [00:16:02] in the ha is an existential threat to [00:16:05] Israel and I agree with that the hope is [00:16:07] that our Democrat and Republican [00:16:09] colleagues can take another shot at [00:16:11] legislation to sanction the IC I think [00:16:14] there's a breakthrough to be had where [00:16:16] we could get 80 votes and we're going to [00:16:18] go back to the drawing board the second [00:16:20] thing that's important is any state that [00:16:23] uh tries to implement the arrest warrant [00:16:26] any nation state I believe should be [00:16:29] sanctioned heavily by the United States [00:16:31] why to deter we're next the theory of [00:16:34] the case is that a non-member Israel a [00:16:38] very robust democracy by the way the [00:16:40] Rome statute wasn't written to deal with [00:16:42] Israel the United States it was written [00:16:44] to deal with ungoverned areas Lawless [00:16:46] places in the world so the theory they [00:16:49] are exposing is that they have [00:16:51] jurisdiction over every country anywhere [00:16:53] in the world and if they receive a [00:16:55] complaint they think is legitimate they [00:16:57] can come after Dem atically elected [00:17:00] government with a robust rule of law uh [00:17:05] that's not a member what prevents the [00:17:07] ICC from coming after the president of [00:17:09] the United States the Secretary of [00:17:11] Defense a member of the Senate nothing [00:17:14] so my goal is to crush the concept that [00:17:17] the ICC has unlimited jurisdiction to go [00:17:20] anywhere they want to go and prosecute [00:17:22] anybody they want to prosecute Israel [00:17:24] cannot survive with this political [00:17:26] leadership unable to travel is soldiers [00:17:29] threatened to go to jail for defending [00:17:32] the state of Israel and we're next so [00:17:35] where are we with [00:17:37] normalization uh October 7th was [00:17:40] designed to stop [00:17:44] normalization Senator Ernst met with NBS [00:17:48] on October the 6th and he was very [00:17:52] enthusiastic about the impending [00:17:55] breakthrough I've come here more times [00:17:57] than I can count I practically moved to [00:18:00] Saudi Arabia the deal was there it was a [00:18:04] matter of days not months or weeks in [00:18:07] October of [00:18:09] 2023 that we were going to announce the [00:18:11] biggest deal in a thousand years a [00:18:14] treaty for Saudi Arabia passed by the [00:18:17] United States Senate recognition of [00:18:20] Israel with an endgame for the [00:18:22] Palestinians that Israel could live with [00:18:25] and the Arabs would accept October the [00:18:27] 7th was signed just stop that Iran's [00:18:30] worst nightmare above all others is for [00:18:34] the Arabs and the Israelis to reconcile [00:18:36] and solve the Palestinian problem in [00:18:39] perpetuity that scares the hell out of [00:18:42] them and October 7th was designed to [00:18:45] stop that let me tell you where I think [00:18:46] we're at we're ways [00:18:50] away the attack on Israel the second [00:18:54] largest attack on the Jewish people in [00:18:56] the history of the Jewish people since [00:18:58] the whole [00:18:59] Holocaust has been [00:19:02] traumatic the desire to reconcile or [00:19:05] live with the Palestinians that in any [00:19:07] way shape or form is a pretty hard sale [00:19:09] right now in the Arab world Israel's won [00:19:12] the war on the ground but they've lost [00:19:14] it on television you go anywhere in the [00:19:16] Arab world and all they see is morning [00:19:18] noon and night attacks on the [00:19:21] Palestinian [00:19:22] people my promise to the people of [00:19:26] Israel and this region is not to to give [00:19:29] up I am very optimistic we will break [00:19:32] through and let me tell you why there's [00:19:35] no other [00:19:36] solution you can destroy Hamas and we [00:19:40] will but they will come back unless [00:19:43] Palestinians have something to live [00:19:46] for and Israel has security to make sure [00:19:49] there's no other October 7th as to Iran [00:19:53] you will never know peace in this region [00:19:55] as long as the Ayatollah and its [00:19:57] henchmen have the capability to [00:19:59] terrorize the region so the number one [00:20:01] goal For Me Above All Else Is to [00:20:04] neutralize the Iranian nuclear program [00:20:07] to take that threat off the table so we [00:20:09] can talk to each other in this region [00:20:12] and solve problems for the benefit of [00:20:13] the world as to [00:20:15] normalization I think it's just a matter [00:20:17] of time because what the Arabs want and [00:20:20] what Israel wants and what the world [00:20:22] wants is to come together and an [00:20:27] economic part partnership to move [00:20:30] forward toward the light away from the [00:20:32] darkness let me uh I think part of your [00:20:35] question with [00:20:37] sanctions uh let me just say about [00:20:39] sanctions maximum pressure works the [00:20:42] Prime Minister emphasized to us how [00:20:45] important strengthening and enforcing [00:20:48] the [00:20:49] sanctions are [00:20:51] to deterring and weakening Iran the [00:20:55] United States can send a message to Iran [00:20:58] the president said that if there wasn't [00:21:02] a release of hostages there would be [00:21:04] hell to pay [00:21:06] now Iran ought to be the one to pay hell [00:21:10] because ultimately they are responsible [00:21:13] for what Hamas does as well as Hezbollah [00:21:16] and the [00:21:17] hoodies they are the head of the [00:21:20] snake and the common recognition of that [00:21:24] fact is an [00:21:26] encouraging part of what I see happening [00:21:29] because the Arab plan to be submitted to [00:21:31] the president will reflect that common [00:21:35] understanding but maximum pressure [00:21:37] through sanctions which Senator Ernst [00:21:40] and I have worked on uh I'm hoping we [00:21:44] can move forward on and uh I hope the [00:21:48] administration will do it as well [00:21:50] because the president's the one who said [00:21:51] there would be held [00:21:55] Peg [00:21:56] Senator about [00:21:59] for you um not wanting to irreparably [00:22:03] disrupt the ongoing peace framework with [00:22:05] Israel's neighbors and there's some [00:22:07] concerns in Israel about the um array of [00:22:09] Egyptian troops and tanks um in Sinai um [00:22:13] you know in that same vein of disrupting [00:22:15] the peace with the neighbors so um if [00:22:17] you could just talk a little bit about [00:22:19] what what your concerns are um and what [00:22:22] you think the US can do to help maintain [00:22:24] the peace and deconflict as you [00:22:27] said my concerns are exactly the ones [00:22:30] that Senator [00:22:31] Graham just expressed in order to keep [00:22:36] the peace framework on [00:22:39] track the Arab Partners in that peace [00:22:42] process are going to [00:22:44] need an [00:22:46] understanding that works for [00:22:49] them and that they can bring home to [00:22:52] their populations with [00:22:56] pride and at the same time Israel needs [00:23:00] to make absolutely certain that Hamas [00:23:03] never has the [00:23:04] power to inflict casualties in Israel [00:23:07] again and as a part of that the best way [00:23:10] to do that is to make sure they have no [00:23:12] power in Gaza or anywhere else again [00:23:16] what that leaves open is the question of [00:23:18] once Hamas is gone what is the [00:23:21] governance for the remaining [00:23:24] Palestinians in Gaza and it's that [00:23:27] question that could disrupt the comfort [00:23:31] of the Arab Partners as they conclude [00:23:34] the deal there's still deal space there [00:23:37] I believe and I think it will land [00:23:39] because I'm an optimist but that's the [00:23:41] issue that I was speaking [00:23:46] to yes yeah we'll get you a couple [00:23:51] more is Jody con from Newsmax Senator [00:23:54] Graham you talked about in order the [00:23:57] need to deal with Iran destroy Hamas and [00:24:01] then focus on Gaza with all the [00:24:04] attention being on President Trump's day [00:24:07] after plan for Gaza do you feel that the [00:24:10] world's eyes somewhat have strayed away [00:24:13] from [00:24:14] Iran uh the one thing that's a really [00:24:17] good [00:24:19] question she can't say hello without [00:24:22] mention a [00:24:24] run the overarching theme of all our [00:24:27] meetings [00:24:29] Iran Iran with a nuke is a nightmare for [00:24:33] the Jewish State it's a nightmare for [00:24:36] the world because Arabs will want a [00:24:38] nuclear weapon of their own and you'll [00:24:39] have a nuclear arms race everything's [00:24:42] important but if you ask me people ask [00:24:44] me what keeps you up at night traveling [00:24:47] a lot time time changes but aroundon [00:24:50] with a nuke because they'll use it you [00:24:53] know I think rocket man's kind of a thug [00:24:56] you got China you got Russia [00:24:59] this man and his regime are held in on [00:25:03] three things purifying Islam in their [00:25:05] own image the Sunni Arabs destroying the [00:25:08] Jewish State and driving every Westerner [00:25:11] out of the mid East [00:25:14] so every decision I make as a senator in [00:25:19] this region is to make sure their [00:25:21] nuclear Ambitions are never met now [00:25:24] we're at a [00:25:25] Crossroads time is not on our side [00:25:29] they're accelerating in my view their [00:25:32] desire to acquire nuclear capability [00:25:35] because their proxies have been very [00:25:38] seriously [00:25:39] hurt what to do and when to do it if you [00:25:43] want to negotiate you better put a Ron [00:25:47] on a clock or it will never [00:25:49] end if you want to negotiate you need to [00:25:52] have an outcome that will secure the [00:25:55] goal of making sure they never never [00:25:57] have a nuke that's the Libyan model I [00:26:00] think the chance of successfully [00:26:02] negotiating Iran out of their nuclear [00:26:05] Ambitions is about like me being in the [00:26:07] NBA is possible but I don't think it's [00:26:10] going to [00:26:11] happen so I am urging the Trump [00:26:15] Administration if you try negotiations [00:26:18] put them on the clock and make sure you [00:26:20] tell them up front what an acceptable [00:26:22] outcome would look [00:26:23] like if that doesn't work if you want to [00:26:26] do that then you need to quickly pivot [00:26:31] and give Israel the capability they're [00:26:33] lacking which is not much to deliver a [00:26:37] decisive blow to the Iran nuclear [00:26:39] program one Holocaust is [00:26:43] enough if you told me 880 years after [00:26:46] the end of World War II there would be a [00:26:49] power on the planet after the [00:26:52] extermination the effort to exterminate [00:26:54] every Jew in the world that openly vows [00:26:58] the destruction of the Jewish [00:27:01] people that the world would wonder what [00:27:03] to [00:27:04] do the answer is simple stop them stop [00:27:07] them [00:27:13] now thank you hi um I'm liisa rosowski [00:27:17] from aret and I think my most questions [00:27:19] are to you Senator Graham um first of [00:27:22] all it's you were already asked about it [00:27:25] but still it seems like a lot is [00:27:28] happening now in Riad both uh in [00:27:31] connection to the Ukrainian Russian war [00:27:34] and here um from what you hear from the [00:27:39] Trump's Administration and and from your [00:27:41] meetings with [00:27:43] Netanyahu um what would be Saudi Arabia [00:27:47] role in um the day after in Gaza uh and [00:27:53] is it somehow maybe interconnected with [00:27:56] what's going on uh in Ukraine [00:27:58] and uh second um about the IC uh before [00:28:03] sanctioning netan and galand IC [00:28:05] sanctioned Putin and then I don't think [00:28:08] I heard any uh protests against it of [00:28:11] from your side don't aren't you afraid [00:28:14] that this bill you're trying uh to uh [00:28:19] pass and um um um president Trump's [00:28:22] executive order will ultimately um [00:28:26] disrupt ruin the international law the [00:28:29] or the international order okay thank [00:28:32] you uh Russia and Israel are not the [00:28:36] same BB and Putin are not the same BB [00:28:41] actually has to get elected nobody's [00:28:44] falling out of Windows over here that [00:28:46] I've [00:28:46] seen uh the idea that there's a [00:28:49] comparison [00:28:50] between Putin's Russia and Israel is [00:28:53] offensive to me at every level the Prime [00:28:56] Minister goes to court three days a week [00:28:59] you have a very robust legal system over [00:29:02] here and if you don't like the [00:29:04] government today just wait there'll be [00:29:05] an election in two weeks does anybody [00:29:08] really believe that Putin's held [00:29:10] accountable by anybody in Russia that's [00:29:12] why you have the Rome statute not the [00:29:14] United States not Israel so that idea uh [00:29:18] to me is an offensive concept that [00:29:20] there's any comparison all what role [00:29:23] will will will Saudi Arabia play the key [00:29:26] role the definitive role now how does [00:29:30] this war end it ends with the [00:29:31] destruction of Hamas it ends with people [00:29:34] being able to leave Gaza they want to [00:29:36] but the ones who choose to stay what's [00:29:39] next and iron's on the top got to get [00:29:42] that done nothing works the Arabs [00:29:45] through Saudi Arabia have told me that [00:29:48] they would recognize Israel Saudi Arabia [00:29:51] would if they get two things a defense [00:29:55] agreement with the United States which [00:29:56] requires 67 votes [00:29:58] is kind of a Checkmate to Iranian [00:30:00] Ambitions and would be the ultimate [00:30:02] brand change for Saudi Arabia it'd be [00:30:04] pretty easy to sell a business interest [00:30:06] on coming to Saudi Arabia if you could [00:30:08] tell that business concern America will [00:30:11] go to war for Saudi Arabia that's a big [00:30:12] brand change City wants that two he and [00:30:16] every other Arab leader has to deliver a [00:30:19] dignified solution to the Palestinian [00:30:22] issue or they will not [00:30:24] last I understand the politics in Israel [00:30:27] You're a un if IED in the idea you don't [00:30:29] want to reward the Palestinians with the [00:30:31] state after they slaughtered 1200 of [00:30:33] your country countrymen and women I get [00:30:36] that and nor should you but the question [00:30:39] becomes how does this end and how do you [00:30:41] keep amas from coming back here's the [00:30:43] good news NBS wants Hamas to come back [00:30:46] about as much as you do his 2030 vision [00:30:49] is inconsistent with Hamas and the [00:30:52] ayatola having a nuclear weapon we have [00:30:54] an alignment of interest for the first [00:30:56] time since I've been coming here where [00:30:58] Arab leaderships at the UAE and Saudi [00:31:01] Arabia have the same view of radical [00:31:04] Islam as Israel does we want no part of [00:31:07] it we reject them women are working in [00:31:10] Saudi Arabia they're driving in Saudi [00:31:11] Arabia then go to dinner by themselves [00:31:14] things that seem small or large they're [00:31:17] going to spend a trillion dollars in [00:31:18] Saudi Arabia modernizing their economy [00:31:21] becoming the leader of the world for AI [00:31:24] Hamas prevents that from happening so to [00:31:28] everybody in Israel you could have no [00:31:29] better partner in destroying radical [00:31:32] Islam than Saudi [00:31:37] Arabia another question last question hi [00:31:40] uh Alexander Coro from Reuters um [00:31:42] question to Senator Graham just picking [00:31:44] up on this point about the day after [00:31:47] what exactly is the role of the Gulf [00:31:49] States with regards to reconstruction [00:31:52] security and governance and just [00:31:53] secondly to Senator Blumenthal if I may [00:31:55] just sneak it in what attrib about this [00:31:58] plan that King abdalah has uh explained [00:32:01] to you has convinced you that this is [00:32:03] realistic and that this could work and [00:32:04] be a viable alternative to what the [00:32:07] president has uh has made public they're [00:32:09] meeting in Saudi Arabia next week to [00:32:12] come up with a plan that would allow the [00:32:15] Palestinians to leave if they would like [00:32:17] but if they stay in place to reconstruct [00:32:19] without a mass Exodus and they're going [00:32:22] to present it I think to the world but [00:32:26] particularly president Trump the one [00:32:28] thing that President Trump has done he [00:32:30] started a discussion that was long [00:32:32] overdue I think the Arabs have woken up [00:32:34] hey we need to find a better alternative [00:32:36] than what's been said so I'm quite [00:32:39] optimistic the Arab world will come up [00:32:42] with a plan and present to president [00:32:43] Trump that shows how you can provide [00:32:46] security to Israel and deal with a [00:32:49] Palestinian issue without driving them [00:32:51] all out think of World War [00:32:54] II Germany and Japan were the most most [00:32:58] radical populations on the planet [00:33:01] there's no more radicalized group of [00:33:03] people on the planet than people who [00:33:04] live in Gaza and to lesser extent West [00:33:08] Bank they've been taught from the time [00:33:10] they're born to the time they die kill [00:33:12] all the Jews how do you fix that what [00:33:14] did we do in Germany and Japan we [00:33:17] changed the education system we [00:33:19] empowered new people we took the old and [00:33:22] replaced it with the new the one thing I [00:33:25] can promise you I don't speak Arabic I [00:33:28] am not the guy to do this and quite [00:33:30] frankly our friends in Israel are not [00:33:32] the people to do this who will change [00:33:34] the education system in Gaza the Arabs [00:33:38] and they're doing it in their own [00:33:39] country who will give economic hope to [00:33:43] the Palestinians it will be the Arabs [00:33:46] because we're not spending a dime we [00:33:48] didn't start this war so my belief is [00:33:52] that deradicalization and [00:33:54] demilitarization can only be [00:33:56] accomplished through Arab involvement [00:33:58] the role of Israel you should have the [00:34:01] ability to go into any place you need to [00:34:03] go to stop a terrorist attack we did not [00:34:06] leave Germany and [00:34:07] Japan we had a military presence there [00:34:10] and we're still there in a different [00:34:11] role I think it would be foolish to [00:34:14] expect Israel to just leave the day [00:34:17] after Hamas is destroyed you have [00:34:19] legitimate cons security concerns that [00:34:22] will require some form of military [00:34:24] presence but let me tell you what would [00:34:26] be equally [00:34:28] imp plausible is to occupy Gaza [00:34:31] permanently you can't do that that will [00:34:34] result in Israeli soldiers being killed [00:34:37] every week so in the short term and I [00:34:40] mean years not months Israel needs to [00:34:43] have the security presence required to [00:34:46] prevent another October 7th and you [00:34:49] devolve power back to the new population [00:34:51] you create based on conditions this [00:34:54] worked in Germany and Japan it will work [00:34:57] here [00:34:58] but it won't be Americans doing this it [00:35:01] will be the Arab world let me let me I [00:35:04] think you you wanted me to elaborate as [00:35:06] well [00:35:07] um my [00:35:10] conversations with Arab leaders most [00:35:13] recently King Abdullah have convinced me [00:35:16] they have a really realistic appraisal [00:35:19] of what their role should be in their [00:35:21] own National interest which is Security [00:35:27] in Gaza [00:35:28] which they have the [00:35:29] military resources to do reconstruction [00:35:33] in Gaza which they have the money to do [00:35:39] education in Gaza which they have the [00:35:43] cultural architecture to [00:35:45] do and an appreciation for the support [00:35:49] of the United States through a possible [00:35:52] defense [00:35:54] treaty against the common enemy which is [00:35:57] Iran and to the people of the United [00:36:00] States I would remind you that the [00:36:03] Hezbollah [00:36:05] flag says death to [00:36:09] Israel death to the United States that's [00:36:13] the common Mantra among the Iran proxies [00:36:18] death to the United States as well as to [00:36:21] Israel we have a Mutual Security [00:36:25] interest here because [00:36:28] the absence of a secure and Lasting [00:36:34] peace for this region will mean that [00:36:36] it's a continuing source of terrorism [00:36:38] threatening the United States and the [00:36:39] hoodie closure of the Red Sea is a [00:36:43] perfect example it is increasing the [00:36:46] cost of goods and services in the United [00:36:49] States of America because of the [00:36:50] increased insurance cost we are linked [00:36:53] by unshakable bonds of faith [00:36:58] culture economy and emotion to Israel [00:37:02] but in a very real hard-headed practical [00:37:05] sense and we emphasize this point to the [00:37:07] Prime [00:37:08] Minister our future and our Fates are [00:37:11] inextricably linked by a common National [00:37:14] Security interest thank you all thank [00:37:16] you