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[00:00:04] Welcome to Washington Today on C-SPAN
[00:00:05] Radio for Friday, February 20th, 2026.
[00:00:08] [music] Supreme Court strikes down
[00:00:10] President Donald Trump's global
[00:00:11] reciprocal tariffs, ruling 6 to3 that
[00:00:13] his use of an emergency powers law was
[00:00:15] unconstitutional because, as Chief
[00:00:17] Justice John Roberts wrote, [music] the
[00:00:19] framers did not vest any part of the
[00:00:21] taxing power in the executive branch.
[00:00:23] [music] President Trump calling the
[00:00:24] decision deeply disappointing and that
[00:00:26] he's absolutely ashamed of the justices
[00:00:28] who voted in the majority, but the
[00:00:30] president also saying he will rely on
[00:00:32] other laws that do give him [music] the
[00:00:34] ability to set tariffs and immediately
[00:00:36] sets a 10% global tariff. We'll hear
[00:00:39] from the president and the Senate
[00:00:40] Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Democrat
[00:00:42] of New York, and talk to Vox Media
[00:00:44] Supreme Court reporter Ian Milheiser.
[00:00:47] President Trump says he's considering a
[00:00:48] limited military strike on Iran if
[00:00:51] negotiations over Iran's nuclear program
[00:00:53] do not reach an acceptable agreement.
[00:00:55] [music]
[00:00:56] Transportation Secretary Shan Duffy says
[00:00:58] tests for commercial drivers licenses
[00:01:00] will from now on be given only in
[00:01:02] English. The National Governor's
[00:01:04] Association hears from Pollster Frank
[00:01:05] Luns at its winter meeting in
[00:01:07] Washington. NASA says the wet [music]
[00:01:09] dress rehearsal of the Artemis 2 moon
[00:01:11] mission went well and first lady Melania
[00:01:14] Trump donates her second inaugural gown
[00:01:16] to the Smithsonian Museum of American
[00:01:18] History. All that and more ahead on
[00:01:20] Washington [music] today. Yahoo Finance
[00:01:22] writing the US Supreme Court scrambled
[00:01:24] the trade landscape Friday with a
[00:01:26] decision striking down the centerpiece
[00:01:28] of President Trump's secondterm tariff
[00:01:30] program. The 6-3 ruling in Learning
[00:01:33] Resources Incorporated v Trump appears
[00:01:36] set to immediately halt a massive
[00:01:38] section of Trump's tariffs announced
[00:01:40] last year on Liberation Day using a 1977
[00:01:43] law called the International Emergency
[00:01:46] Economic Powers Act or AIPA. The law
[00:01:48] gives the president the ability to
[00:01:49] declare an economic emergency and take
[00:01:51] action, but doesn't specify tariffs as a
[00:01:54] remedy. That was some Yahoo finance.
[00:01:56] President Donald Trump responded at a
[00:01:58] White House news conference. The Supreme
[00:02:01] Court's ruling on tariffs is deeply
[00:02:05] disappointing
[00:02:07] and I'm ashamed of certain members of
[00:02:09] the court, absolutely ashamed for not
[00:02:12] having the courage to do what's right
[00:02:14] for our country.
[00:02:16] I'd like to thank and congratulate
[00:02:18] justices Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaaugh
[00:02:22] for their strength and wisdom
[00:02:25] and love of our country, which is right
[00:02:28] now very proud of those justices.
[00:02:32] When you read the dissenting opinions,
[00:02:34] there's no way that anyone can argue
[00:02:37] against them. There's no way.
[00:02:41] foreign countries that have been ripping
[00:02:43] us off for years are ecstatic. They're
[00:02:46] so happy
[00:02:48] and they're dancing in the streets, but
[00:02:50] they won't be dancing for long. That I
[00:02:53] can assure you. The Democrats on the
[00:02:56] court
[00:02:58] are thrilled, but they will
[00:03:00] automatically vote no. They're an
[00:03:01] automatic no. Just like in Congress,
[00:03:03] they're an automatic no.
[00:03:06] They're against anything that makes
[00:03:08] America strong, healthy, and great
[00:03:11] again. They also are a
[00:03:14] frankly disgrace to our nation. Those
[00:03:16] justices,
[00:03:18] they're an automatic no. No matter how
[00:03:19] good a case you have, it's a no.
[00:03:24] But you can't knock their loyalty.
[00:03:27] It's one thing you can do with some of
[00:03:31] our people. Others think they're being
[00:03:34] politically correct, which has happened
[00:03:37] before far too often with certain
[00:03:39] members of this court. And it's happened
[00:03:42] so often with this court. What a shame
[00:03:45] having to do with voting in particular
[00:03:49] when in fact they're just being fools
[00:03:51] and lap dogs for the rhinos and the
[00:03:53] radical left Democrats. And not that
[00:03:57] they should have anything at all to do
[00:03:58] with it. They're very unpatriotic and
[00:04:01] disloyal to our constitution.
[00:04:03] It's my opinion that the court has been
[00:04:05] swayed by foreign interests and a
[00:04:08] political movement that is far smaller
[00:04:10] than people would ever think. It's a
[00:04:12] small
[00:04:14] movement.
[00:04:16] I won by millions of votes. We won in a
[00:04:18] landslide
[00:04:20] with all the cheating that went on.
[00:04:22] There was a lot of it, but we still won
[00:04:23] in a landslide. Too big to rig. But
[00:04:26] these people are obnoxious, ignorant,
[00:04:28] and loud. They're very loud and I think
[00:04:31] certain justices are afraid of that.
[00:04:34] They don't want to do the right thing.
[00:04:36] They're afraid of it.
[00:04:37] >> President Donald Trump at a White House
[00:04:39] news conference. Chief Justice of the
[00:04:41] United States John Roberts writing for
[00:04:43] the majority in today's decision. The
[00:04:45] framers gave Congress alone the power to
[00:04:48] impose tariffs during peace time and the
[00:04:50] foreign affairs implications of tariffs
[00:04:52] do not make it any more likely that
[00:04:54] Congress would relinquish its tariff
[00:04:56] power through vague language or without
[00:04:59] careful limits. Accordingly, the
[00:05:00] president must point to clear
[00:05:02] congressional authorization to justify
[00:05:04] his extraordinary assertion of that
[00:05:05] power. He cannot. and Justice Brett
[00:05:08] Kavanaaugh writing in the descent.
[00:05:10] Although I firmly disagree with the
[00:05:12] court's holding today, the decision
[00:05:14] might not substantially constrain a
[00:05:16] president's ability to order tariffs
[00:05:17] going forward. That is because numerous
[00:05:19] other federal statutes authorize the
[00:05:21] president to impose tariffs and might
[00:05:23] justify most if not all of the tariffs
[00:05:25] at issue in this case, albeit perhaps
[00:05:27] with a few additional procedural steps
[00:05:29] than IPA as an emergency statute does
[00:05:32] not require. That was from Justice Brett
[00:05:34] Kavanaaugh. President Trump at his White
[00:05:35] House news conference was asked about
[00:05:37] his power versus the power of Congress.
[00:05:40] >> Several of uh Republicans in Congress
[00:05:42] have supported this uh decision by the
[00:05:44] Supreme Court. And Hakee Jeff, the
[00:05:46] Democratic leader, has called you a
[00:05:48] wannabe king.
[00:05:49] >> Why would a low IQ?
[00:05:51] >> But why wouldn't he doesn't even know?
[00:05:53] And I watched him the other day
[00:05:55] interview. The guy doesn't even know
[00:05:56] what a tariff is.
[00:05:57] >> But there's been bipartisan criticism.
[00:06:00] Excuse me.
[00:06:00] >> There several Republicans have said
[00:06:01] that.
[00:06:02] >> Yeah.
[00:06:03] Why wouldn't you just work with Congress
[00:06:04] to come up with a plan?
[00:06:05] >> I don't have to to push tariffs.
[00:06:06] >> I have the right to do tariffs and I've
[00:06:08] always had the right to do tariffs. It
[00:06:10] has all been approved by Congress. So,
[00:06:11] there's no reason to do it. All we're
[00:06:13] doing is we're going through a little
[00:06:15] bit more complicated process. Not
[00:06:17] complicated very much, but a little more
[00:06:19] complicated than what we had. We'll be
[00:06:21] able to take in tariffs, more tariffs.
[00:06:23] And the Congress people down the
[00:06:25] Canadian tariffs last week. There's been
[00:06:27] votes in the Senate against it.
[00:06:28] >> Yeah. because we lost two Republicans or
[00:06:30] three Republicans because uh they're not
[00:06:34] good Republicans. What you don't say So
[00:06:36] you don't say that we had that we got
[00:06:38] 215 votes.
[00:06:40] >> You need 21 for something to pass.
[00:06:42] >> Sure, we do. We might have lost three
[00:06:44] votes and we got and what was the score
[00:06:47] on the Republican side? 215 to three,
[00:06:49] right? But you don't say that. We have
[00:06:50] great unity. There's great unity in the
[00:06:53] Republican party and I hope everyone's
[00:06:54] going to vote Republican because
[00:06:56] otherwise you won't have a country left
[00:06:57] because these people have been
[00:06:58] destroying they are destroying our
[00:07:00] country.
[00:07:01] >> President Donald Trump at today's news
[00:07:03] conference at the White House. Politico
[00:07:05] writes that retiring Congressman Don
[00:07:07] Bacon, Republic of Nebraska, broke with
[00:07:09] President Trump and GOP leaders a week
[00:07:10] ago to help overturn Trump's Canada
[00:07:13] tariffs. On Friday, he held the quote
[00:07:15] common sense ruling by the Supreme Court
[00:07:18] that essentially invalidates those and
[00:07:19] many other tariffs. He said in an
[00:07:21] interview Friday morning shortly after
[00:07:23] the decision, "The checks and balances
[00:07:24] our constitution put in place works. I
[00:07:28] feel vindicated." That was from
[00:07:29] Politico. From Reuters, President Donald
[00:07:31] Trump said on Friday that he would
[00:07:32] impose a 10% global tariff for 150 days
[00:07:35] to replace some of his emergency duties
[00:07:37] that were struck down by the US Supreme
[00:07:39] Court. He said that his order would be
[00:07:42] made under section 122 of the Trade Act
[00:07:44] of 1974 and the duties would be over and
[00:07:48] above tariffs that are currently in
[00:07:49] place. The statute allows the president
[00:07:51] to impose duties of up to 15% for up to
[00:07:55] 150 days on any and all countries
[00:07:57] related to large and serious balance of
[00:08:00] payments issues. It does not require
[00:08:02] investigations or impose other
[00:08:03] procedural limits. That was from
[00:08:05] Reuters. Treasury Secretary Scott
[00:08:07] Bessent at the Economic Club of Dallas
[00:08:09] also pointed to these alternative
[00:08:11] statutes dealing with tariffs.
[00:08:13] >> This morning we all woke up and came in
[00:08:16] and you just address it on the tariffs.
[00:08:18] It was a 6-3 vote. What when you
[00:08:21] initially saw that, were you surprised?
[00:08:23] Were you
[00:08:25] Is that something you were anticipating
[00:08:27] that the vote would go the way it did or
[00:08:28] I I know you mentioned a lot of things
[00:08:30] that they didn't vote on, but is it did
[00:08:32] it kind of go the way you thought?
[00:08:34] >> I I I was a little surprised because I I
[00:08:36] I was in the Supreme Court hearing
[00:08:38] mercifully. I am not a lawyer. When
[00:08:41] people say, "How do you like DC?" I
[00:08:42] said, "There too many lawyers." Um but
[00:08:46] um I I think that
[00:08:50] what we saw was just a very narrowing of
[00:08:55] the definition of a president's ability
[00:08:57] to use AIPA powers. So
[00:09:01] for those of you who saw the president
[00:09:03] earlier or have been following this
[00:09:06] closely and I I always found when I was
[00:09:09] in the private sector in my uh
[00:09:11] investment business, it was very good
[00:09:14] separate signal from noise and a lot of
[00:09:17] the noise is look Trump tariffs
[00:09:20] defeated.
[00:09:22] >> The only thing that was defeated is the
[00:09:24] ability for to collect even a dollar of
[00:09:28] revenue. president and I I I was at the
[00:09:32] hearing and
[00:09:34] the justices agreed and even the
[00:09:37] plaintiff agreed that under AIPA the
[00:09:40] president can
[00:09:42] install a full embargo. He just can't
[00:09:45] collect a dollar of revenue. So, as I
[00:09:48] said before, there are 232 and 301
[00:09:52] tariffs that have withstood more than
[00:09:55] 4,000 lawsuits since the first Trump
[00:09:58] term. Uh there is something called
[00:10:01] section 122, which grants the president
[00:10:05] 5 months to install uh to put a global
[00:10:10] tariff on. So president announced today
[00:10:12] he's going to put a global tariff of
[00:10:14] 10%. And then u the number of a number
[00:10:19] of 232 and section 301 uh tariff
[00:10:23] investigations will be started. You know
[00:10:25] th those take a number of weeks and
[00:10:27] months to uh implement. Uh so
[00:10:33] I I can tell you that the total amount
[00:10:36] of revenue that Treasury will collect
[00:10:39] this year will be little changed if
[00:10:42] changed at all.
[00:10:43] >> Treasury Secretary Scott Besson today at
[00:10:45] the Economic Club of Dallas. House
[00:10:48] Speaker Mike Johnson Republican of
[00:10:49] Louisiana writing on X. No one can deny
[00:10:51] that the president's use of tariffs has
[00:10:54] brought in billions of dollars and
[00:10:55] created immense leverage for America's
[00:10:57] trade strategy and for securing strong
[00:11:00] reciprocal America first trade
[00:11:02] agreements with countries that had been
[00:11:04] taking advantage of American workers for
[00:11:06] decades. Congress and the administration
[00:11:08] will determine the best path forward in
[00:11:10] the coming weeks. That statement from
[00:11:12] House Speaker Mike Johnson. The Senate
[00:11:14] Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Democrat
[00:11:16] from New York, reacted to the Supreme
[00:11:17] Court's decision at a news conference in
[00:11:19] New York City.
[00:11:20] >> So today, the Supreme Court ruled that
[00:11:23] Donald Trump's sweeping tariffs were
[00:11:25] unlawful.
[00:11:26] The court agreed with what Democrats
[00:11:29] have said from day one. A president
[00:11:31] cannot ignore Congress and unilaterally
[00:11:34] slap these tariffs on the American
[00:11:37] people.
[00:11:39] Glaringly, amazingly, a vital and
[00:11:42] important point is missing from the
[00:11:45] president's speech
[00:11:47] that his tariffs have dramatically
[00:11:50] increased costs on American families.
[00:11:53] Costs of so many things have gone up
[00:11:55] because of these tariffs and the
[00:11:57] American people hate the tariffs because
[00:11:59] it's increased their costs.
[00:12:02] For Donald Trump's speech to mention
[00:12:04] tariffs and not mention the costs they
[00:12:06] impose on American families shows that
[00:12:09] he is totally in a bubble. He has no
[00:12:12] understanding of what the average
[00:12:14] American family goes through.
[00:12:19] And
[00:12:22] what is he doing after the court gave
[00:12:25] the American people a few hours of
[00:12:27] relief? He's doubling down and
[00:12:29] reimposing those costs on them again in
[00:12:33] a different way, but a way that will
[00:12:34] hurt just as much. He is imposing new
[00:12:38] tariffs. They will still raise people's
[00:12:40] costs
[00:12:42] and they will hurt the American people
[00:12:44] as much as his old costs did.
[00:12:48] Donald Trump is doubling down on hurting
[00:12:52] American families by raising their
[00:12:54] costs. and his speech, Donald Trump's
[00:12:57] speech is just like his tariffs,
[00:12:59] erratic, disorganized,
[00:13:02] based on fiction.
[00:13:05] He just does not understand what
[00:13:07] Americans are going through. Today's
[00:13:10] SCOT's decision was a win for the
[00:13:11] wallets of every American consumer that
[00:13:14] carried the burden of of Trump's stupid
[00:13:17] trade war. And now he's doing it all
[00:13:19] over again and hurting the American
[00:13:22] people.
[00:13:24] Trump Trump's tariff tax was illegal and
[00:13:27] the courts agreed. And let's call it
[00:13:30] let's call these tariffs for what they
[00:13:33] are, a tax on the American people. The
[00:13:37] tariffs that Trump imposed a year ago
[00:13:39] that the courts knocked out and the
[00:13:42] tariffs he's imposing now are all taxes
[00:13:45] on the American people raising their
[00:13:47] costs. small businesses, farmers caught
[00:13:51] in the crossfire from one corner of
[00:13:53] America to another. America, the
[00:13:56] American people are struggling with
[00:13:57] higher costs and today Trump
[00:14:02] said he's going to keep those costs on
[00:14:04] their shoulders.
[00:14:07] The fact of the matter is these tariffs
[00:14:09] aren't tough on China, they're tough on
[00:14:11] American families.
[00:14:13] And the court has repeatedly voted on a
[00:14:16] the Senate has repeatedly voted on a
[00:14:17] bipartisan basis to reject this illegal
[00:14:20] trade war. Congress has the ultimate
[00:14:23] authority to undo the tariffs
[00:14:27] that Trump had imposed a year ago and
[00:14:30] the tariffs that Trump has imposed
[00:14:32] today. And we hope our Republican
[00:14:34] colleagues will join with us in
[00:14:36] rejecting these tariffs because there's
[00:14:39] such a burden on American families and
[00:14:42] the cost that they pay.
[00:14:44] >> Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer,
[00:14:45] Democrat of New York in New York City.
[00:14:48] Joining us now with more on the Supreme
[00:14:50] Court's decision striking down much of
[00:14:52] President Donald Trump's tariff agenda
[00:14:54] is Ian Milheiser, senior correspondent
[00:14:56] with Vox Media. He covers the Supreme
[00:14:59] Court. Thank you for joining us. Can you
[00:15:01] take us through the opinion, the
[00:15:03] majority, the concurring, the dissents
[00:15:05] and what they say about the tariff
[00:15:07] authority under the international
[00:15:09] emergency economic powers act or IPA?
[00:15:12] >> Sure. So I mean the short version is
[00:15:14] that they said that this one federal law
[00:15:18] um IPA does not permit Trump the
[00:15:22] unlimited power to issue any tariff
[00:15:24] against any country at any time that
[00:15:27] that that he had claimed. Um the legal
[00:15:31] argument that they make so the wording
[00:15:33] of the statute is it says that the
[00:15:36] president has the power to regulate
[00:15:38] imports and exports under certain
[00:15:40] circumstances and they just say that the
[00:15:43] power to regulate something is different
[00:15:45] from the power to tax something. I mean
[00:15:48] one one point that uh the chief justice
[00:15:50] makes in in the opinion is that there
[00:15:54] are lots and lots and lots of statutes
[00:15:56] that use the word regulate. None of them
[00:15:58] have ever been read to use a tax the to
[00:16:00] allow attacks. The government hasn't
[00:16:03] allowed um the government wasn't able to
[00:16:06] point to an example where there was a
[00:16:08] federal law that used that word and it
[00:16:10] was interpreted to allow taxation. And
[00:16:13] so, you know, it was a fairly
[00:16:14] straightforward opinion. Like the parts
[00:16:16] of the opinion that actually matter are
[00:16:18] only like 14 pages long. And you really
[00:16:21] can summarize it in a paragraph if you
[00:16:23] had to.
[00:16:24] >> And what about the disscent? The descent
[00:16:26] I I I mean
[00:16:29] so the descent B the dissent primarily
[00:16:32] leaned into the fact this was Justice
[00:16:34] Kavanaaugh that Trump was doing
[00:16:37] something national security related or
[00:16:40] rather foreign policy related and he
[00:16:43] claimed that you know Trump the
[00:16:46] president just has extreme extremely
[00:16:48] broad powers to do things that are
[00:16:50] foreign policy related. Um during the
[00:16:53] Biden administration,
[00:16:55] the Supreme Court started applying this
[00:16:57] new thing called the major questions
[00:17:00] doctrine, which essentially says that
[00:17:02] when the president tries to do something
[00:17:03] that's really ambitious, that is a lot
[00:17:06] of economic impact, um court should look
[00:17:09] on it with a great deal of skepticism.
[00:17:11] And much of Kavanaaugh's opinion claimed
[00:17:14] that there should be a foreign policy
[00:17:16] exemption to this major questions
[00:17:19] doctrine. And I mean I don't even know
[00:17:21] what to say about that because the major
[00:17:23] questions doctrine is just that the
[00:17:24] Supreme Court made up in the last dozen
[00:17:26] years or so. So if they can make
[00:17:29] something up from whole cloth then I
[00:17:31] guess they can make up a foreign policy
[00:17:32] exception to it. But you know I I didn't
[00:17:35] find it to be a particularly persuasive
[00:17:37] descent. You write at vox.com that the
[00:17:41] three justices appointed by Democratic
[00:17:43] presidents did not join in the section
[00:17:45] of the majority opinion authored by
[00:17:47] Chief Justice John Roberts that denied
[00:17:49] the conservatives a key doctrinal
[00:17:51] victory. What is that about?
[00:17:53] >> So this goes back to this major question
[00:17:55] doctrine. So yeah, so this the history
[00:17:59] here is that beginning in the Obama
[00:18:02] administration, conservative lawyers
[00:18:04] started organizing around the idea that
[00:18:08] there that like basically when a
[00:18:11] president tries to do something that in
[00:18:14] that has big economic consequences, the
[00:18:16] court should come in and strike it down
[00:18:17] because they didn't want Obama doing
[00:18:19] things unless he could go unless he got
[00:18:22] permission from the Republican Congress
[00:18:25] And
[00:18:26] you know, the only president be that
[00:18:28] this doctrine has ever been used against
[00:18:30] is Joe Biden. They they they floated it
[00:18:33] in the Obama administration, but they
[00:18:35] didn't actually use it until the Biden
[00:18:36] administration. And the three Democratic
[00:18:39] justices have fairly consistently
[00:18:42] criticized this thing. You know, they
[00:18:44] said that it's just something that the
[00:18:45] court made up. It's not it's not in the
[00:18:47] Constitution. It's not in any statute.
[00:18:50] And so I think that so where they
[00:18:55] disagreed with the three Republicans who
[00:18:58] joined the opinion saying that the
[00:19:00] tariffs are illegal is that the those
[00:19:04] three Republicans said they think that
[00:19:06] the statute doesn't allow it and they
[00:19:08] also think this violates the major
[00:19:09] questions doctrine and the three
[00:19:11] Democrats held to the same position they
[00:19:14] held in the Biden administration which
[00:19:15] is that they just don't think that the
[00:19:16] major questions doctrine is real. We're
[00:19:19] talking with Ian Milheiser, senior
[00:19:21] correspondent with Vox Media. What about
[00:19:23] refunds of people who have already paid
[00:19:26] tariffs? Did the decision address that?
[00:19:29] >> I mean, that is the next big question.
[00:19:32] It's a bit of a nightmare. Um, you know,
[00:19:34] the majority opinion didn't really get
[00:19:36] very much into it at all. What's going
[00:19:38] to happen is that these cases are going
[00:19:40] to go back down to a court called the
[00:19:42] court of international trade and then
[00:19:44] the trade court's going to have to hear
[00:19:46] all these individual cases of people
[00:19:48] seeking refunds and I think it's going
[00:19:51] to be very very difficult because for
[00:19:54] one thing it's not clear who is entitled
[00:19:57] to the refund. So, like if I'm a company
[00:20:01] and I imported, you know, say a million
[00:20:03] dollars of parts and I paid $100,000 in
[00:20:06] tariffs on them, then I might argue that
[00:20:08] I'm entitled to get those hund that
[00:20:10] $100,000 back. But what if I raised my
[00:20:13] prices and it was actually my customers
[00:20:15] who paid the $100,000 and I'm, you know,
[00:20:18] left in the same position I would have
[00:20:20] been left in if there was no tariffs,
[00:20:22] then why should I get a windfall? Why
[00:20:25] should I get that money back? Shouldn't
[00:20:26] it be my my customers who have to sue?
[00:20:30] Um, and so, you know, this is just a
[00:20:33] long way of saying that it's unclear who
[00:20:35] is entitled to a refund, how the courts
[00:20:38] are going to figure out how those
[00:20:39] refunds work. And we're talking about
[00:20:41] hundreds of billions of dollars here.
[00:20:44] So, this is going to be a hugely
[00:20:46] significant and very difficult question
[00:20:48] that the courts are going to have to
[00:20:49] figure out in the future. And a final
[00:20:51] question, big picture, this is the first
[00:20:53] major piece of Trump administration
[00:20:55] policy to come before the Supreme Court.
[00:20:57] It's been struck down. What's the
[00:20:59] takeaway on President Trump's push for
[00:21:01] more executive power?
[00:21:03] >> So, I think the big takeaway here is
[00:21:05] that tariffs has always been an issue
[00:21:08] that divides the Republican party. You
[00:21:10] know, Mitch McConnell put out a decision
[00:21:12] today praising praising this decision.
[00:21:15] Um, you know, the Federalist Society,
[00:21:17] the, you know, the very powerful
[00:21:18] conservative legal organization had a
[00:21:20] conference last spring where there were
[00:21:23] a lot of speakers who were very, very
[00:21:25] critical of the tariffs. A lot of very
[00:21:26] prominent Republicans were critical of
[00:21:29] what Trump was doing here. And, you
[00:21:31] know, so this is an issue that cleaves
[00:21:33] the Republican party and it cleaved the
[00:21:35] Supreme Court's Republicans down the
[00:21:37] middle. You had three Republican justice
[00:21:39] who said the tariffs are illegal. You
[00:21:40] had three Republicans who said that they
[00:21:42] were legal. Um during Trump's first year
[00:21:46] back in office, the court heard a bunch
[00:21:49] heard a slew of cases involving Trump
[00:21:51] administration policies and they
[00:21:52] consistently ruled in favor of Trump
[00:21:55] over and over again. And this is of
[00:21:57] course after their 2024 decision that
[00:22:00] where they essentially said that Donald
[00:22:01] Trump is allowed to commit crimes. So I
[00:22:05] wouldn't read too much into this. You
[00:22:07] know, this this doesn't indicate that
[00:22:09] like Roberts has joined the resistance
[00:22:11] or anything like that. What this
[00:22:13] indicates is that when you have an issue
[00:22:15] where the Republican party is split,
[00:22:18] it's also potentially going to split the
[00:22:21] Republican justices. And that's what
[00:22:22] happened here.
[00:22:23] >> Ian Milheiser covers the Supreme Court
[00:22:26] for Vox Media, their senior
[00:22:27] correspondent. You can find his articles
[00:22:29] at vox.com.
[00:22:31] Thank you very much.
[00:22:32] >> Thank you. And Bloomberg News reporting
[00:22:34] that the European Union lawmakers will
[00:22:37] be holding an emergency meeting Monday
[00:22:39] to reassess the union's trade deal with
[00:22:41] the US in response to the Supreme
[00:22:43] Court's decision. The lawmakers had
[00:22:45] planned to vote Tuesday to move forward
[00:22:47] with ratifying the United States EU
[00:22:50] trade agreement.
[00:22:52] Wall Street today, the Dow up 230,
[00:22:54] NASDAQ up 203, S&P up 47.
[00:22:58] CNBC writing 40 minutes before the
[00:23:00] federal government revealed that
[00:23:01] economic growth slowed sharply in the
[00:23:04] last quarter, President Donald Trump
[00:23:05] dropped a hint from the that the
[00:23:07] incoming data would be weaker. He wrote
[00:23:10] on a Truth Social Post at 7:50 a.m.
[00:23:13] Eastern. The Democrat shutdown cost the
[00:23:16] USA at least two points in GDP. That's
[00:23:18] why they are doing it in mini form
[00:23:21] again. At 8:30 a.m., the Commerce
[00:23:24] Department reported that US gross
[00:23:26] domestic product rose at an annualized
[00:23:28] rate of just 1.4% in the fourth quarter
[00:23:30] of 2025. That's a decline of 3
[00:23:32] percentage points from the previous
[00:23:34] 3-month period. Trump's Friday morning
[00:23:37] post referring to last year's record
[00:23:39] length government shutdown of 43 days.
[00:23:43] This is Washington today. From Fox News,
[00:23:45] President Trump told reporters on Friday
[00:23:47] that he was considering a limited
[00:23:48] military strike to pressure Iran into a
[00:23:51] deal. I guess I can say I am considering
[00:23:54] that, he said at the start of a meeting
[00:23:55] with governors at the White House. The
[00:23:58] New York Times has reported that
[00:24:00] President Trump is weighing various
[00:24:01] options to strike Iran in the coming
[00:24:03] days amid negotiations over its nuclear
[00:24:05] program. Trump's remarks come as the US
[00:24:08] is building up military assets in the
[00:24:09] Middle East, sending the USS Gerald R.
[00:24:12] Ford and its strike group toward the
[00:24:14] region. That was from Fox News. This was
[00:24:16] the brief exchange between the president
[00:24:19] and the reporter at the White House.
[00:24:21] >> Are you considering a limited military
[00:24:23] strike to pressure Iran into a deal?
[00:24:25] >> Thank you, press. Keep moving. Thank
[00:24:27] you.
[00:24:27] >> Are you considering
[00:24:33] >> President Trump at the end of a brief
[00:24:36] statement at the White House, he was
[00:24:37] meeting with the governors, answering a
[00:24:39] question about Iran. Later at the White
[00:24:40] House news conference talking about the
[00:24:42] Supreme Court's decision on tariffs, he
[00:24:44] took another question about Iran.
[00:24:46] >> Mr. President, what's your message to
[00:24:47] the Iranian people after two rounds of
[00:24:48] talks with them? Do you have any message
[00:24:50] to the Iranian people?
[00:24:52] >> The Iranian people in Iran or people
[00:24:54] here?
[00:24:54] >> People in Iran?
[00:24:55] >> Uh
[00:24:58] they better negotiate a fair deal. They
[00:25:01] better,
[00:25:02] >> you know, the people of Iran are a lot
[00:25:04] different than the leaders of Iran. And
[00:25:06] it's very very uh very sad situation,
[00:25:10] but 32,000 people were killed over a
[00:25:13] relatively short period of time. They
[00:25:16] were going to hang 800 two weeks ago
[00:25:18] hang
[00:25:20] some by crane. They lift them up with a
[00:25:22] tall crane and they play them around the
[00:25:24] square. They were going to hang 837
[00:25:27] people. And I gave them the word if you
[00:25:30] hang one person, even one person, that
[00:25:33] you're going to be hit right then and
[00:25:35] there. I wasn't waiting two weeks and
[00:25:37] negotiating and they gave up the
[00:25:39] hanging. They didn't hang 837.
[00:25:41] Supposedly, they didn't hang anybody.
[00:25:44] But no, I feel very badly for the people
[00:25:45] of Iran. They've lived like they've
[00:25:47] lived in hell.
[00:25:48] >> President Donald Trump at a White House
[00:25:50] news conference. Congressman Adam Smith,
[00:25:52] Democrat of Washington State, ranking
[00:25:54] member on the Armed Services Committee,
[00:25:55] posted a video Thursday about the
[00:25:57] possibility of conflict between the US
[00:25:59] and Iran. I know that there's a lot
[00:26:02] going on in the world, but all of us
[00:26:04] need to be paying a lot more attention
[00:26:07] to the fact that Donald Trump is getting
[00:26:09] ready to launch a war against Iran. He
[00:26:12] has amassed the largest military force
[00:26:15] in the Middle East since the Iraq war.
[00:26:18] And all of this is happening without
[00:26:20] much public comment. And it is also a
[00:26:22] very bad idea. The US should not be
[00:26:26] starting another war in the Middle East.
[00:26:28] Trump himself ran for office saying no
[00:26:31] more endless foreign engagements, no
[00:26:34] more endless foreign wars. And now here
[00:26:36] he is getting ready to start another
[00:26:38] one. We need to speak out against this
[00:26:40] conflict. We also need to insist that he
[00:26:43] comes to Congress to ask for permission
[00:26:47] because this is an act of war. It is not
[00:26:50] lawful without congressional approval.
[00:26:52] Now, Congress should not approve it, but
[00:26:55] right now, we need to insist that he
[00:26:57] comes to Congress, and I urge everyone
[00:26:59] to support Roana's war powers
[00:27:01] resolution, saying no war with Iran and
[00:27:05] requiring a vote in Congress. Again, we
[00:27:09] are very close to Donald Trump launching
[00:27:11] us into another Middle East war. Now is
[00:27:14] the time to speak out against it and
[00:27:16] stop that from happening. Congressman
[00:27:19] Adam Smith, Democrat of Washington State
[00:27:21] ranking member on the Armed Services
[00:27:22] Committee, posted that video Thursday.
[00:27:24] Story from Al Jazzer. Iranian Foreign
[00:27:26] Minister Abbas Arachi has said that Iran
[00:27:29] is prepared for peace and diplomacy with
[00:27:31] the United States, suggesting that a
[00:27:33] possible deal between the two countries
[00:27:35] remains close despite the threats from
[00:27:37] Washington. Speaking to the US
[00:27:39] television network MS Now on Friday,
[00:27:41] Archi stressed that Iran's nuclear
[00:27:43] program has no military solution. He hit
[00:27:46] out at the enormous US military buildup
[00:27:48] in the Middle East which includes two
[00:27:50] aircraft carriers and dozens of fighter
[00:27:52] jets calling it unnecessary and
[00:27:54] unhelpful. Reporting from Al Jazzer,
[00:27:56] here is the foreign minister this
[00:27:58] morning on MS Now. There is no military
[00:28:02] solution for Iran's nuclear program that
[00:28:05] has been tested last year and there
[00:28:08] there were a huge attack on our
[00:28:10] facilities on our you know uh they they
[00:28:13] killed and assassinated our scientists
[00:28:15] but they couldn't kill our nuclear
[00:28:17] program. Why? Because it is developed by
[00:28:19] ourselves by our scientists. This is a
[00:28:21] technology developed by us belongs to us
[00:28:25] and [clears throat]
[00:28:26] it cannot be destroyed by by bombings by
[00:28:30] uh you know militarily the only solution
[00:28:32] is diplomacy. This is why the US is back
[00:28:35] to on uh in in in the table of
[00:28:39] negotiation and and is seeking a deal
[00:28:42] and we are prepared for that. We are
[00:28:44] prepared for uh you know war and we are
[00:28:47] prepared for peace. We are prepared for
[00:28:50] diplomacy and we we are prepared for
[00:28:51] negotiation as much as we are prepared
[00:28:53] for war. Uh and I think the last time it
[00:28:57] was proved that Iran is capable to
[00:28:58] defend itself in the best possible way
[00:29:01] and after 12 days of war there were the
[00:29:04] the our enemies had no way but to ask
[00:29:07] for an unconditional ceasefire. Uh so
[00:29:10] that would be the case if they try it
[00:29:12] again. If they want a deal, if they want
[00:29:15] a solution for our for Iran's nuclear
[00:29:18] program, if if they want to ensure that
[00:29:20] Iran's nuclear program is peaceful and
[00:29:23] would remain peaceful forever, the only
[00:29:25] solution is a diplomatic negotiation and
[00:29:29] coming to a diplomatic solution.
[00:29:31] >> The foreign minister of Iran, Abbas
[00:29:33] Arachi, on MS Now's Morning Joe program
[00:29:37] Friday morning. Washington today
[00:29:39] continues in a moment.
[00:29:41] >> And we are going to renew unlimited
[00:29:43] promise of the American dream. Every
[00:29:46] single day, we will stand up and we will
[00:29:49] fight, fight, fight for the country our
[00:29:51] citizens believe in.
[00:29:53] >> Watch the C-SPAN networks live Tuesday,
[00:29:56] February 24th, as President Donald Trump
[00:29:58] delivers the annual State of the Union
[00:30:00] address before a joint session of
[00:30:02] Congress. [music] The speech will mark
[00:30:03] President Trump's first State of the
[00:30:05] Union of his second term. The State of
[00:30:07] the Union address live Tuesday, February
[00:30:10] 24th. Our coverage starts at 700 [music]
[00:30:12] p.m. Eastern on the C-SPAN networks.
[00:30:14] C-SPAN, bringing you democracy
[00:30:16] unfiltered. [music]
[00:30:22] Welcome back to Washington Today,
[00:30:24] available as a podcast wherever you find
[00:30:26] your podcasts and on the free C-SPAN now
[00:30:28] mobile app. Transportation Secretary
[00:30:31] Shawn Duffy announced today that
[00:30:32] commercial drivers license tests will be
[00:30:35] given in English only from now on to
[00:30:38] ensure drivers can read road signs and
[00:30:41] communicate with law enforcement.
[00:30:42] Associated Press writing about it,
[00:30:44] Florida already started administering
[00:30:46] its tests in English. Currently, many
[00:30:48] states allow drivers to take their
[00:30:49] license tests in other languages even
[00:30:52] though they are required to demonstrate
[00:30:53] English proficiency. California offered
[00:30:56] tests in 20 other languages. And Duffy
[00:30:59] said a number of states have hired other
[00:31:01] companies to administer commercial
[00:31:02] drivers license tests and those
[00:31:04] companies are not enforcing the
[00:31:06] standards that drivers are supposed to
[00:31:08] meet. That's from the AP article.
[00:31:10] Secretary Duffy spoke at a news
[00:31:11] conference today at the Transportation
[00:31:13] Department in Washington.
[00:31:14] >> When we get on the road, we should
[00:31:16] expect that we should be safe and that
[00:31:19] those who drive those 80,000lb big rigs
[00:31:22] that they are they are well trained.
[00:31:24] they are wellqualified and they're going
[00:31:26] to be safe, but they're going to keep me
[00:31:28] and my family safe as well. Uh, and that
[00:31:31] has not been the case. So, what do we do
[00:31:33] from here?
[00:31:35] [snorts] Um, if you can't proficiently
[00:31:39] speak English
[00:31:41] right now, we'll take you out of the
[00:31:43] rig. But what we're going to do in the
[00:31:46] future is ask states to disqualify your
[00:31:49] license. Now, I would love if I had the
[00:31:52] power to revoke someone who can't speak
[00:31:54] English per our rules. I'd love to be
[00:31:56] able to revoke their license. I can't.
[00:31:59] That goes to the states. So, we're
[00:32:01] asking states to disqualify those who
[00:32:02] can't speak the language consistent with
[00:32:04] our rules.
[00:32:07] In the state of California,
[00:32:09] you can take the drivers test, the
[00:32:12] skills test, and the proficiency test.
[00:32:15] You can take it in 20 different
[00:32:17] languages. 20 different languages.
[00:32:20] What we're doing is uh uh implementing a
[00:32:24] rule that'll say there's one language in
[00:32:26] which you can take your test. It's
[00:32:27] English only. You take the test in
[00:32:29] English, you can't uh speak English, you
[00:32:31] can't read English, you're not going to
[00:32:33] do well in the test because every test
[00:32:35] is going to be required to uh be uh
[00:32:37] given in English.
[00:32:39] >> Transportation Secretary Shawn Duffy at
[00:32:40] a news conference today at the
[00:32:42] Transportation Department in Washington.
[00:32:43] More from the Associated Press article
[00:32:45] on the announcement. Earlier this week,
[00:32:47] the transportation department said 557
[00:32:49] driving schools should close because
[00:32:52] they failed to meet basic safety
[00:32:53] standards. And the department has been
[00:32:55] aggressively going after states that
[00:32:58] handed out commercial driver's licenses
[00:32:59] to immigrants who shouldn't have
[00:33:00] qualified for them ever since a fatal
[00:33:02] crash in August. Two Democratic members
[00:33:05] of Congress from Minnesota, Ilan Omar
[00:33:07] and Angie Craig, say they were given a
[00:33:10] tour of an immigration detention center
[00:33:12] in Minneapolis today after several
[00:33:14] failed attempts, but that there were no
[00:33:16] detainees there. Here is Congresswoman
[00:33:18] Omar speaking to reporters outside the
[00:33:19] Whipple Federal Building.
[00:33:21] >> This was uh an an attempt at us doing uh
[00:33:25] our congressional duty um and performing
[00:33:28] oversight at the Whipple um federal
[00:33:31] building. Uh we were finally um this was
[00:33:34] the third time try for uh Congresswoman
[00:33:37] Craig. Uh my second attempt we were
[00:33:39] finally let in. We were given uh a full
[00:33:42] and complete uh tour um of the facility.
[00:33:46] Um and you know the the the objective of
[00:33:51] um this u oversight was always to be
[00:33:55] able to come in at any moment to see
[00:33:59] what is taking place at these detention
[00:34:02] facilities and how people are being
[00:34:05] treated. When they instituted the one
[00:34:08] weekek notice, we knew that things were
[00:34:11] going to be different and we weren't
[00:34:13] surprised at what we saw today. We went
[00:34:16] into the facility and there was not a
[00:34:19] single detainee
[00:34:21] that we could see or talk to. Every
[00:34:25] cell, every inch of it was completely
[00:34:30] empty. And when we'd asked why isn't
[00:34:34] there anyone here? because we obviously
[00:34:36] know they've been detaining people. They
[00:34:38] said the last people left at 11:30. It
[00:34:43] seems a little too convenient knowing
[00:34:45] that our scheduled visit was going to be
[00:34:48] at 12 p.m. Uh that the last detainees
[00:34:52] would be um transported out of the
[00:34:55] facility at 11:30. We know that our
[00:34:58] colleague, Senator Tina Smith, also had
[00:35:01] an scheduled uh meeting today where she
[00:35:04] also was told uh that the detainees left
[00:35:07] a little before she got there and there
[00:35:10] was a possibility some might come in
[00:35:12] after she leaves. We've been told that
[00:35:15] on average as the search has been drawn
[00:35:18] down, uh they are getting about 20 a day
[00:35:21] detainees that they are picking up. They
[00:35:23] have not uh picked up any observers. um
[00:35:27] in the last couple of days um and and
[00:35:30] held them in this facility. Uh the
[00:35:33] facility seemed to be uh clean and
[00:35:36] orderly. Um and again, you know, I
[00:35:39] wouldn't be surprised with having the
[00:35:41] the level of notification that we were
[00:35:43] supposed to give about our arrival uh
[00:35:46] that things were arranged in that way.
[00:35:48] Congresswoman Ilan Omar, Democrat of
[00:35:51] Minnesota, at a news conference along
[00:35:53] with Congresswoman Angie Craig, Democrat
[00:35:54] of Minnesota, outside the federal
[00:35:56] building in Minneapolis. The House
[00:35:58] returns to session next week, as does
[00:36:00] the Senate. No word today on when the
[00:36:03] partial government shutdown of the
[00:36:04] Homeland Security Department will end.
[00:36:07] Today is day seven of that shutdown. The
[00:36:09] divide is still the Democratic demand to
[00:36:11] add immigration enforcement reform to a
[00:36:14] funding bill, something Republicans at
[00:36:15] this point are not accepting. Politico
[00:36:18] writing that the Department of Housing
[00:36:19] and Urban Development released its long-
[00:36:21] aaited proposed rule Thursday to prevent
[00:36:23] families with mixed immigration statuses
[00:36:25] from receiving certain federal housing
[00:36:27] assistance. And from AP, the Trump
[00:36:30] administration has issued a sweeping new
[00:36:31] order that could lead to the arrest of
[00:36:33] tens of thousands of refugees who are
[00:36:35] lawfully in the United States but do not
[00:36:37] yet have permanent residency,
[00:36:38] overturning years of legal and
[00:36:40] immigration safeguards. A memo filed by
[00:36:42] the Department of Homeland Security
[00:36:44] ahead of a Thursday federal court
[00:36:46] hearing in Minnesota says refugees
[00:36:48] applying for green cards must return to
[00:36:50] federal custody one year after they were
[00:36:52] admitted to the US for review of their
[00:36:54] applications. That was from Associated
[00:36:56] Press. And this is Washington today.
[00:36:58] State governors attending the second day
[00:37:00] of the National Governor's Association's
[00:37:03] winter meeting in Washington DC heard
[00:37:05] today from Frank Luntz, pollster and
[00:37:07] communication strategist. He gave a
[00:37:09] presentation on some of his recent
[00:37:11] findings.
[00:37:11] >> We asked people to tell us what rep
[00:37:14] represented American values and they
[00:37:16] told us more than anything else is
[00:37:18] freedom. Democracy is second but knows
[00:37:20] the difference between Republicans and
[00:37:22] Democrats.
[00:37:24] Now go down that list and see the
[00:37:25] difference between the two parties on
[00:37:27] patriotism. We are so crazy as a country
[00:37:30] right now that we've even polarized
[00:37:33] these two core words as to who we are.
[00:37:36] I started with this back in 1992.
[00:37:40] I never dreamed that either democracy or
[00:37:43] patriotism would become partisan,
[00:37:46] but it has.
[00:37:48] And what did not do well?
[00:37:51] Inclusion.
[00:37:53] I say this to every Democrat who sits
[00:37:55] here right now. I know you want to use
[00:37:57] inclusion and diversity and equity.
[00:37:59] Don't.
[00:38:01] That is no longer the language of
[00:38:03] America. And even though love is such a
[00:38:06] wonderful value, it's not the value that
[00:38:09] we see as American.
[00:38:12] So if you want to use love, if you want
[00:38:15] if you want to do it, great. If you want
[00:38:16] to talk about it, don't.
[00:38:19] [laughter]
[00:38:21] And for the back there, I made that up
[00:38:23] on the spot.
[00:38:25] >> Pollster Frank Luns at today's National
[00:38:27] Governor's Association winter meeting in
[00:38:29] Washington. And he also told the
[00:38:30] governors that when it comes to what
[00:38:31] constituents want to hear from them to
[00:38:33] show that they're doing a good job, the
[00:38:35] word accountability is much better than
[00:38:38] oversight. After the presentation, some
[00:38:40] governors joined Frank Lunts on stage
[00:38:42] and during the discussion, Governor Wes
[00:38:44] Moore, Democrat from Maryland, the NGA
[00:38:47] vice chair, asked a question. You'll
[00:38:49] hear an answer from Frank Lunts and
[00:38:51] Governor Kevin Stit, Republican of
[00:38:53] Oklahoma, the NGA chair. I looked at the
[00:38:56] slides you pulled together and while the
[00:39:01] numbers were deeply depressing,
[00:39:04] it's also what was on the left side that
[00:39:07] was very telling to me and that was the
[00:39:09] distinction between the parties
[00:39:12] where you know I this was the first
[00:39:14] office I ever ran for in my life. I do
[00:39:18] not come from a political background at
[00:39:19] all uh or a political family and you
[00:39:23] know my background and why I have so
[00:39:25] much respect for these cadetses and yes
[00:39:27] cadets uh beat Navy um
[00:39:33] um is is that when I was leading
[00:39:36] soldiers I never once asked any of my
[00:39:38] soldiers what's your political party
[00:39:41] it never came up right we had one job
[00:39:44] one mission and we worked like hell to
[00:39:47] accomplish it and to make sure that all
[00:39:49] of our folks made it back home.
[00:39:52] And I remember when I first ran for
[00:39:54] office that it was one of the first
[00:39:57] questions that people brought up
[00:39:59] before, how do you think about reducing
[00:40:03] energy prices? How do you think about
[00:40:05] housing? How do you think about
[00:40:06] transportation? It was about your
[00:40:08] political party.
[00:40:10] So there was this tribalism
[00:40:12] that existed inside of a an area that
[00:40:17] frankly I was new to. And one thing I've
[00:40:20] tried to pride myself on is that I did
[00:40:22] not grow up learning it and I'm not
[00:40:23] trying to learn it now that I'm an
[00:40:25] adult. And so I guess the question comes
[00:40:28] back to
[00:40:30] how much of the challenge of this is
[00:40:33] isn't
[00:40:34] as much the right side how people view
[00:40:38] certain words and that type of thing but
[00:40:41] it's actually the left side.
[00:40:44] It's a political framework and it's the
[00:40:46] fact that we have created this binary
[00:40:49] system in our country that makes it so
[00:40:52] difficult for people to get at the heart
[00:40:57] of what people are looking for and hope
[00:40:58] because they're looking through every
[00:41:00] issue through a lens of either red or
[00:41:02] blue. It
[00:41:03] >> it's I'll answer and then I would like
[00:41:06] the governors to respond. It's simple.
[00:41:09] And by the way, they want you to come up
[00:41:10] to West Point before May 1st.
[00:41:14] Um, an army person cannot lie. Will you
[00:41:17] commit to coming to West Point?
[00:41:22] [laughter]
[00:41:23] >> I was about to say yes, but then Alexis
[00:41:25] like, "Do not say yes.
[00:41:27] Alexis, get out of the room. [laughter]
[00:41:31] We'll be up soon. We'll be up soon."
[00:41:34] >> Um, it's when you say to someone, "I'm
[00:41:36] not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat and
[00:41:39] you do so publicly. I'm an American
[00:41:42] and no one does that anymore. And if you
[00:41:45] watch Congress right now, they're the
[00:41:47] problem. And I know this will be
[00:41:50] broadcast somewhere, but it's true
[00:41:53] because you're first and foremost of
[00:41:55] your tribe rather than your country. And
[00:41:58] the more people and if in fact governor,
[00:42:00] I'm going to turn this to you, but I'd
[00:42:02] say that there there should be a
[00:42:04] proclamation from all the governors at
[00:42:06] this conference that says we are first
[00:42:08] and foremost American, not Republican,
[00:42:11] not Democrat. You do something like that
[00:42:13] that sends a message.
[00:42:14] >> Yeah.
[00:42:16] [applause]
[00:42:20] A brilliant idea. I I was I was shocked
[00:42:22] or I mean I guess I kind of thought
[00:42:24] about it this way cuz bipartisan is a
[00:42:26] word that you're saying people hate that
[00:42:29] they don't like it. Um you know maybe
[00:42:32] the reason it doesn't work is because
[00:42:34] people want to they want problem
[00:42:35] solvers. They want governors to solve
[00:42:37] problems. They want us to be practical.
[00:42:40] >> Not pragmatic. [laughter]
[00:42:42] I mean, I I always say, you know, uh you
[00:42:45] know, I I just bring Oklahoma common
[00:42:47] sense to the table and and u you know,
[00:42:50] [laughter]
[00:42:51] Ronald Reagan talks about just easy
[00:42:53] simple decisions, not easy decisions.
[00:42:56] And if all four million Oklahomaans
[00:42:57] could sit on my couch, it's pretty easy
[00:42:59] what what decision to make. Um but just
[00:43:02] politics get involved and oh, we've got
[00:43:04] to win the next election and this
[00:43:06] legislator is trying to get this
[00:43:08] chairmanship. I mean, it just gets so
[00:43:10] disgusting when you actually get down to
[00:43:12] what actually happens uh in the
[00:43:14] political world. And so, yeah, I mean,
[00:43:17] I'm obviously terming out, got one year
[00:43:19] left, so getting a lot more free. It's
[00:43:21] so fun not having to run for reelection
[00:43:23] again. Uh I can say and do whatever I
[00:43:25] want. And uh um you know, but that's
[00:43:28] kind of the way I've been the whole time
[00:43:30] through politics. I signed the largest
[00:43:32] commutation in US history. My first
[00:43:34] year, I wasn't in politics. I didn't
[00:43:36] know I was supposed to wait till the
[00:43:37] very end to do that. Uh because then my
[00:43:40] Democratic opponent started running ads
[00:43:42] against me and I was like, "Wait a
[00:43:44] second. I thought y'all were for
[00:43:45] criminal justice reform. How come you're
[00:43:47] attacking the Republican for this?" Uh
[00:43:49] but that's how politics are. We we
[00:43:51] almost can't make decisions that we
[00:43:53] think are the best because the other
[00:43:56] side's going to weaponize it against us.
[00:43:57] And so both both parties are guilty of
[00:44:00] that. I don't know how you fix that. Uh
[00:44:02] but you've got to hire people that are
[00:44:04] focused on the next generation, not the
[00:44:07] next election. Back to your point, we're
[00:44:08] Americans first before we're skins or
[00:44:11] shirts or Republicans or Democrats.
[00:44:13] >> Governor Kevin Stit, Republican of
[00:44:14] Oklahoma, the chair of the National
[00:44:16] Governor's Association at today's NGA
[00:44:18] Winter Meeting in Washington DC. You
[00:44:20] also heard from Governor Wes Moore,
[00:44:21] Democrat of Maryland, the NGA vice chair
[00:44:24] and pollster Frank Luntz. Governor Moore
[00:44:26] and Governor Jared Polus, Democrat of
[00:44:28] Colorado, attended a breakfast at the
[00:44:30] White House with President Trump this
[00:44:32] morning. As The Hill reports it, after
[00:44:34] the White House reversed course once
[00:44:36] again and extended an invitation to the
[00:44:38] pair, a source familiar told The Hill,
[00:44:40] Governor Moore putting out a written
[00:44:41] statement, "I will attend today's
[00:44:43] business meeting with my colleagues at
[00:44:44] the White House, but let me be
[00:44:46] abundantly clear. I will not participate
[00:44:47] in political stunts. Americans are
[00:44:49] exhausted by the division and toxicity
[00:44:51] out of Washington, and we will pray for
[00:44:54] better." The two governors, Governor
[00:44:56] Moore and Governor Polus, have not been
[00:44:57] invited to the Saturday night white
[00:44:59] house black tie dinner with governors
[00:45:02] and several other Democratic governors
[00:45:04] plan to boycott in response. A story
[00:45:06] from the Tennesseeian, part of USA Today
[00:45:09] network. Secretary of War Pete Hexath
[00:45:12] touted his efforts to inject
[00:45:13] Christianity into military leadership at
[00:45:15] the Pentagon while speaking in Nashville
[00:45:17] on November 19th, touting the Trump
[00:45:20] administration's stated embrace of
[00:45:21] Christian moral values as foundational
[00:45:24] to the American right and inherent to a
[00:45:27] free society. Hexath headlined the
[00:45:29] National Religious Broadcasters
[00:45:30] Convention at the Gaylord Opryland
[00:45:33] Resort in Nashville. That's the
[00:45:34] reporting from the Tennesseeian. Here's
[00:45:36] part of the secretary's speech. If I may
[00:45:38] offer a few observations,
[00:45:41] protecting the God-given life of an
[00:45:43] unborn baby is not political. It's
[00:45:45] biblical.
[00:45:47] [cheering]
[00:45:59] [cheering]
[00:46:09] >> [applause]
[00:46:13] >> Protecting our borders from criminals
[00:46:15] who steal from us, assault our loved
[00:46:17] ones, and poison our citizens is not
[00:46:19] political. It's biblical.
[00:46:22] [applause]
[00:46:23] >> Protecting women and children from being
[00:46:25] trafficked for sexual slavery is not
[00:46:27] political. It is biblical.
[00:46:30] [applause]
[00:46:34] Standing guard over our children rather
[00:46:37] than letting them be taught perverse
[00:46:39] sexual practices or sharing a locker
[00:46:41] room with men pretending to be women is
[00:46:44] not political. It's biblical.
[00:46:48] [applause]
[00:46:56] >> [applause]
[00:46:58] >> Protecting our culture and our religion
[00:47:00] from godless ideologies and pagan
[00:47:03] religions is not political. It's
[00:47:05] biblical.
[00:47:08] >> Defense Secretary Pete Hgse speaking to
[00:47:10] the National Religious Broadcasters
[00:47:12] Convention in Nashville, Tennessee on
[00:47:14] Thursday. Scientific American writing
[00:47:16] the second time is the charm.
[00:47:17] Apparently, NASA successfully completed
[00:47:20] a major test of its upcoming moon
[00:47:22] mission, Artemis 2, on Thursday. On
[00:47:25] Friday, Lorie Glaze, acting associate
[00:47:27] administrator for NASA's exploration
[00:47:29] systems development mission directorate,
[00:47:32] said that with the test done, the agency
[00:47:34] is now targeting a March 6th launch date
[00:47:36] for Artemis 2. That was from Scientific
[00:47:39] American. Laura Glaz spoke at a news
[00:47:40] conference at the Kennedy Space Center,
[00:47:43] Merit Island, Florida, about what's
[00:47:44] called the wet dress rehearsal. That's
[00:47:47] the fueling of the rocket, readying of
[00:47:48] the crew capsule, and going through a
[00:47:50] mock countdown.
[00:47:52] >> Yesterday, uh we were able to fully tank
[00:47:54] the SLS rocket within the planned
[00:47:56] timeline. Uh we demonstrated our crew
[00:47:59] module closeout activities with the
[00:48:01] closeout crew again on the timeline. Um
[00:48:05] and we also successfully demonstrated uh
[00:48:07] the launch countdown. And again, Charlie
[00:48:09] will talk in a lot more detail. Uh we
[00:48:11] did navigate through a few issues.
[00:48:13] You'll hear a little bit about some of
[00:48:14] those, but overall the countdown went
[00:48:16] very very smoothly. Um we do have work
[00:48:19] to go um to get our systems ready for
[00:48:21] launch where we've already begun the
[00:48:23] data reviews from the wet dress
[00:48:24] yesterday and there's some other work
[00:48:26] that needs to be done um out at the pad.
[00:48:28] Um one thing I do want to say here today
[00:48:31] is that follow uh following that
[00:48:33] successful wet dress yesterday, we're
[00:48:35] now targeting March 6th as our earliest
[00:48:38] launch attempt. Um I am going to caveat
[00:48:41] that I want to be open transparent with
[00:48:44] all of you that there is still pending
[00:48:46] work. Um there's work a lot of forward
[00:48:49] work that remains um including uh the
[00:48:52] post-wet dress analyses of course. Uh we
[00:48:54] do have some significant work to be
[00:48:56] completed out at the pad. Charlie will
[00:48:58] talk to that in more detail. And we also
[00:49:00] have a uh multi-day flight readiness
[00:49:03] review that will come up uh later next
[00:49:05] week. Um and so those things are all in
[00:49:07] front of us. We need to successfully
[00:49:09] navigate all of those. Um, but assuming
[00:49:12] that happens, it it puts us in a very
[00:49:13] good position um to target the March
[00:49:15] 6th.
[00:49:16] >> Lori Glaze, NASA's acting associate
[00:49:19] administrator for exploration systems
[00:49:21] development at today's news conference
[00:49:22] at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida.
[00:49:24] More from the Scientific American
[00:49:25] article. NASA's first attempted wet
[00:49:27] dress rehearsal on February 2nd, exposed
[00:49:29] several issues with both the SLS and the
[00:49:33] Orion capsule, including hydrogen fuel
[00:49:35] leaks, a problem that also plagued the
[00:49:37] mission's predecessor, Artemis 1. At a
[00:49:40] press conference on Friday, NASA's
[00:49:41] Artemis launch director, Charlie
[00:49:43] Blackwell Thompson, said the agency is
[00:49:45] confident it has fixed the leaks and
[00:49:48] that none arose during Thursday's
[00:49:50] fueling and mock launch countdown. That
[00:49:52] was from Scientific American. First Lady
[00:49:54] Melania Trump today donated her second
[00:49:56] inaugural gown to the Smithsonian Museum
[00:49:58] of American History. The museum's
[00:50:00] website on the first ladies exhibit
[00:50:03] reads that it features more than two
[00:50:05] dozen gowns from the Smithsonian's
[00:50:07] almost 100-year-old First Ladies
[00:50:09] collection, including those worn by
[00:50:11] Francis Cleveland, Lou Hoover,
[00:50:13] Jacquellyn Kennedy, Laura Bush, and
[00:50:15] Michelle Obama, as well as a section
[00:50:18] titled Changing Times, Changing First
[00:50:20] Ladies, highlighting the roles played by
[00:50:22] Dolly Madison, Mary Lincoln, Edith
[00:50:24] Roosevelt, and Lady Bird Johnson, and
[00:50:26] their contributions to their husband's
[00:50:28] administrations. Here's first lady
[00:50:30] Melania Trump at the Smithsonian Museum
[00:50:33] American History.
[00:50:34] >> The human condition is captured within
[00:50:37] every stage. The idea to endure and rise
[00:50:41] above mediocracy to reach the highest
[00:50:44] level, America's destiny.
[00:50:48] This black and white masterpiece
[00:50:50] showcases America's pure spirit of
[00:50:53] originality,
[00:50:55] superior engineering,
[00:50:57] and boundless creativity.
[00:51:00] It's a statement as to why America's
[00:51:03] fashion industry can lead the rest of
[00:51:06] the world.
[00:51:08] Personally, I relish the entire design
[00:51:11] process from start to finish. It takes a
[00:51:15] time. It's slow. But the end result is
[00:51:20] always magical.
[00:51:22] If you had a chance to see my new film,
[00:51:24] Melania, you are well aware of what it
[00:51:27] took to bring this technical marvel to
[00:51:30] life.
[00:51:33] We must take pride not only in the small
[00:51:36] rituals of self-care, but in the
[00:51:39] courageous act of self-expression,
[00:51:42] our outward appearance to the world.
[00:51:48] The art of presenting oneself can be
[00:51:51] cultivated over a lifetime. Yet even the
[00:51:54] young girl who can who takes care of
[00:51:57] herself from inside out with precision
[00:52:00] every morning lives for school with a
[00:52:03] more confident step and a steady gaze.
[00:52:08] Confident to claim her place in the
[00:52:10] world.
[00:52:12] This pe spark pays dividends and stays
[00:52:16] with her for a lifetime.
[00:52:18] >> First Lady Melania Trump at her second
[00:52:21] inaugural gown donation ceremony at the
[00:52:24] Smithsonian Museum of American History
[00:52:25] today. She then posed for pictures with
[00:52:28] the mannequin wearing the gown and the
[00:52:30] accompanying neck piece. Daily Mail
[00:52:33] writing about the ceremony. It continues
[00:52:35] a long tradition dating back to 1912 of
[00:52:37] first ladies giving their dresses to the
[00:52:39] museum. Helen Herren Taft was the first
[00:52:42] to donate her inaugural ball gown from
[00:52:44] the 1909 inauguration. It remains a
[00:52:47] cornerstone of the collection.
[00:52:49] Congressman Mikewigley, Democrat from
[00:52:50] Illinois, posting on X today. I'm
[00:52:52] saddened to hear about the passing of
[00:52:54] actor and humanitarian Eric Dayne.
[00:52:56] Despite learning he had ALS just 10
[00:52:59] months ago, Eric spent his last months
[00:53:01] on Earth advocating for the greater ALS
[00:53:04] community. I had the pleasure of meeting
[00:53:06] Eric this fall. We talked about
[00:53:07] expanding healthc care access and
[00:53:09] reauthorizing my act for ALS law to keep
[00:53:13] funding ALS research. My heart goes out
[00:53:15] to his family, friends, and colleagues.
[00:53:17] Rest in peace, Mr. Dayne. That post from
[00:53:19] Congressman Mikewigley. Eric Dayne, best
[00:53:22] known for his roles on Grey's Anatomy
[00:53:24] and Euphoria. He was 53 years old. In
[00:53:27] June of 2025, he spoke at a US Health
[00:53:30] and Human Services Department
[00:53:32] announcement that the nation's largest
[00:53:34] health insurers had agreed to streamline
[00:53:36] their prior authorization process to
[00:53:39] help patients get care quicker.
[00:53:42] >> I'm Eric Dayne. Uh, some of you may know
[00:53:45] me from TV shows such as Grey's Anatomy,
[00:53:48] which I play a doctor, but I am here I
[00:53:52] am here today to speak briefly as a
[00:53:54] patient battling ALS. also known as Lou
[00:53:58] Garri's disease.
[00:54:02] When that diagnosis hits and you find
[00:54:05] out that you're sick, your life becomes
[00:54:07] filled with great uncertainty.
[00:54:11] And the worst thing that we can do is
[00:54:12] add even more uncertainty for patients
[00:54:15] and their loved ones with unnecessary
[00:54:18] prior authorization.
[00:54:20] Anything we can do to give patients more
[00:54:23] certainty with fewer delays is a
[00:54:25] worthwhile endeavor.
[00:54:28] I've been fortunate
[00:54:31] and have the means to access great care.
[00:54:34] I'm lucky. Not everyone is in the same
[00:54:37] position. I am acutely aware of that. I
[00:54:40] applaud the insurance industry coming
[00:54:43] together with officials from CMS and HHS
[00:54:47] to take these steps in the right
[00:54:48] direction.
[00:54:50] Today is about all those who need more
[00:54:52] certainty, faster answers, and more hope
[00:54:57] for recovery.
[00:54:59] Thank you.
[00:55:01] >> Thank you, Eric.
[00:55:05] >> Actor Eric Dayne in June 2025 at a
[00:55:08] Health and Human Services Department
[00:55:10] news conference. He has died at the age
[00:55:12] of 53. Senator John Curtis, Republican
[00:55:14] of Utah, writing on X. Eric Dayne was a
[00:55:16] powerful advocate for all those affected
[00:55:19] by ALS. I join so many others in
[00:55:21] mourning his loss. Thanks for listening
[00:55:23] to Washington today. Remember that
[00:55:25] C-SPAN Ceasefire airs tonight at 7:00
[00:55:27] p.m. and 10 p.m. Eastern. Host Dasha
[00:55:29] Burns will welcome two governors, Kelly
[00:55:31] Armstrong, Republican of North Dakota,
[00:55:32] and Matt Meyer, Democrat of Delaware,
[00:55:35] who are in Washington for the National
[00:55:36] Governor's Association Winter Meeting
[00:55:38] for a bipartisan dialogue on top issues
[00:55:40] facing states and the country, including
[00:55:42] affordability, healthcare, immigration,
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