Tucker Responds to Trump Assassination Attempt and JD Vance for VP | Milwaukee, WI Speech

[00:00:00] but you look around and you see these [00:00:01] people and some of them really have paid [00:00:03] a heavy price for telling the truth and [00:00:05] they are cast out of their groups [00:00:07] whatever those groups are but they do it [00:00:09] anyway and I look on at those people [00:00:11] with the deepest possible admiration the [00:00:14] people around our country are destroying [00:00:16] it and they're doing it on purpose what [00:00:18] they've done at the border completely [00:00:19] changing the population in the country [00:00:21] letting in millions and millions of [00:00:23] people my role is to tell the truth to [00:00:25] the extent I can see it always with the [00:00:28] knowledge that we see [00:00:30] everything you know through a glass [00:00:32] Darkly we don't see things clearly but [00:00:34] you do your best and you cannot allow [00:00:37] people to force you to lie period I have [00:00:40] guns at home and often on my person when [00:00:41] I'm in the United States I'm proud to [00:00:43] say because I want to defend myself and [00:00:46] those I love against violence I'm [00:00:49] defending what I love and if you're [00:00:51] against that I guess I I would ask why [00:00:53] why would you be against that well so [00:00:55] you don't think you H any kind of [00:00:56] responsibility for these hate crimes [00:01:00] the very first thing you should do every [00:01:02] single day is tell all the people you [00:01:04] love that you love and affirming things [00:01:06] out loud makes them [00:01:09] real and that is also simultaneously an [00:01:11] acknowledgement of a truth that we don't [00:01:13] face which is we don't know what's going [00:01:14] to happen today and reminding yourself [00:01:16] of that every single day will bring you [00:01:19] paradoxically [00:01:21] [Music] [00:01:23] Joy please join me and welcoming our [00:01:25] great friend and a great doctor of Truth [00:01:27] Tucker Carlson [00:01:28] [Applause] [00:01:30] [Music] [00:01:39] thank [00:01:42] you thank you I don't even know where I [00:01:46] am I just [00:01:49] landed I just landed and um it took me [00:01:53] an hour and a half to get here there's a [00:01:54] lot of security uh all the security guys [00:01:56] look like they should have been in [00:01:57] Butler PA on Saturday they they [00:01:59] definitely brought the real ones out [00:02:00] this time thank heaven um thank you for [00:02:03] having me I am thrilled to be here I [00:02:05] didn't want to come to this convention [00:02:07] now I'm really grateful that I did um [00:02:10] and I spent the whole day dealing with [00:02:12] politics this day uh starting at 5:00 [00:02:15] a.m. and I just I forgot how repulsive a [00:02:17] process it [00:02:18] is and how feline and ruthless the [00:02:22] players are it was a reminder why I [00:02:25] don't like politicians I never deal with [00:02:26] politicians I deal with people who [00:02:28] believe in things and some I agree with [00:02:29] and some I don't agree with but they're [00:02:31] all basically sincere even the wackos on [00:02:33] the other side are generally sincere [00:02:35] they really mean it and I kind of get [00:02:38] that and because I'm I think I'm pretty [00:02:41] I may be wrong I certainly have been but [00:02:43] I've I I mean I mean it but you deal [00:02:45] with political people and they don't [00:02:46] mean it all they mean is they want Power [00:02:50] that's [00:02:51] it and there's been a lot of jockeying [00:02:54] because there are a couple big job well [00:02:55] one big job which was just [00:02:57] awarded and it's it's crazy to watch [00:03:02] politicians around power so there's this [00:03:04] job one person makes the decision and [00:03:07] whoever gets the job immediately has a [00:03:09] lot of power and it really is like [00:03:12] waving a flank State over an alligator [00:03:14] they just they just jumping up and [00:03:16] snapping in the air but they're not [00:03:19] doing it in a straightforward way I mean [00:03:21] you sort of I've always wondered I spent [00:03:23] 35 years in Washington and there were [00:03:25] politicians I liked but I just couldn't [00:03:26] help but notice that every single one of [00:03:28] them had a weird personal life almost [00:03:30] every single one not all but most of [00:03:31] them something they were hiding they [00:03:33] were secretly gay or they were into [00:03:35] drugs or alcoholic or cheating on their [00:03:36] wife or whatever and I thought this is [00:03:38] not a random sample of the population [00:03:40] like my neighbors aren't living like [00:03:41] this why is all of the US [00:03:43] Congress and and I'm not being mean I [00:03:45] know it sounds like something you say [00:03:47] just to be nasty about a group you don't [00:03:48] like but I'm being sincere why is that [00:03:50] why are so many politicians living [00:03:53] lies and it's because that's who they [00:03:56] are I mean deception is at the core [00:03:58] actually of who they are and when you [00:03:59] watch them pursue power it comes right [00:04:03] out rather than just saying you know I [00:04:06] think we should do this because here's [00:04:08] the outcome and I think we should avoid [00:04:10] that because there's the disaster that [00:04:12] will result it's always if you do this [00:04:14] I'll give you something [00:04:15] secret there's it's it's like the most [00:04:17] disgusting thing I've ever seen and I [00:04:19] haven't been around it in a while and I [00:04:20] just watched it up close over the last [00:04:21] 24 hours and I thought man I'm glad I'm [00:04:24] not around this very often [00:04:26] however it's worth making yourself see [00:04:28] it and in some cases go through the [00:04:30] process because it actually matters I [00:04:32] guess that's the other thing that I [00:04:33] learned so now JD Vance is the VP pick [00:04:35] and I think every person who pays close [00:04:38] attention has got to be thrilled by that [00:04:41] and if you don't know much about JD [00:04:42] Vance I'm not even going to make a case [00:04:44] for JD Vance I'm going to tell you what [00:04:45] I just saw which is that every bad [00:04:50] person I've ever met in a lifetime in [00:04:52] Washington was aligned against JD [00:04:55] Vance and I do think the negative case [00:04:57] is often more powerful because I I know [00:05:00] of myself I do not think I'm a [00:05:01] particularly good person I have strong [00:05:03] reasons for feeling that way I don't [00:05:05] always think that my side is right I [00:05:07] know for a fact I have been wrong many [00:05:08] many times and I I hope to correct and [00:05:10] be honest about my error so it's it's [00:05:12] not like I think that you know I'm [00:05:15] always you know God's always on my side [00:05:18] sometimes I'm not on God's side but I [00:05:20] definitely know who's representing the [00:05:23] other [00:05:24] side it's a lot easier to tell who the [00:05:27] people who are only in it because they [00:05:29] like I don't know killing other people [00:05:31] in pointless Wars like I know who those [00:05:33] people are and their odor is so powerful [00:05:36] that I can smell one when he walks in [00:05:37] the room and every single one of those [00:05:41] people in a line that would extend from [00:05:43] Milwaukee to Chicago was lined up over [00:05:45] the last week to knife JD Vance not on [00:05:48] personal grounds he's a perfectly nice [00:05:50] guy he's like one of the only members of [00:05:51] the Senate with a happy [00:05:53] marriage [00:05:55] true but because they thought he would [00:05:57] be harder to manipulate and slightly [00:05:59] less enthusiastic about killing people [00:06:01] that's it that he would be an impediment [00:06:03] to their exercising power and boy they [00:06:05] went after him in a way I've just kind [00:06:06] of never seen which I think happens [00:06:08] every day in Washington I just don't [00:06:10] have advantage on it because I'm far far [00:06:11] away and grateful to [00:06:13] be and again I was just [00:06:15] reminded that this process is so ugly [00:06:19] that normal people do not want to [00:06:20] participate in it and yet normal people [00:06:22] have to suck it up and do so anyway [00:06:24] because the consequences are just so [00:06:26] profound and so very serious that's the [00:06:28] first thing I was reminded of [00:06:30] and the second thing I was reminded of [00:06:32] and I've been thinking about this for [00:06:33] the last 15 months since I spoke at [00:06:35] heritage's 50th Anniversary which was [00:06:37] the beginning of a total change in the [00:06:39] way that I see the world is that this is [00:06:41] not ultimately political this is much [00:06:44] deeper and and I think what happened on [00:06:46] Saturday the the assassination attempt [00:06:48] against President Trump reminded a lot [00:06:50] of people this or awakened a lot of [00:06:51] people to this there is a spiritual [00:06:54] battle underway there is no logical way [00:06:58] to understand what we're seeing now in [00:07:01] temporal terms you just can't these are [00:07:03] not political [00:07:05] divides there are forces and they're [00:07:07] very obvious now they've decided for [00:07:09] whatever reason to take off the mask [00:07:11] whose only goal is chaos violence [00:07:16] destruction and there are the rest of us [00:07:18] who once again are not always certain [00:07:20] we're right but we know that that's bad [00:07:23] and we're against that sort of standing [00:07:25] watching thinking is someone going to [00:07:26] explain to me why this is politics this [00:07:28] is not politics at all [00:07:30] this is much deeper and older and more [00:07:33] recognizable than that this has been [00:07:34] going on since the beginning of time and [00:07:37] I do think by the way that the more [00:07:41] literal Among Us and I would count [00:07:42] myself in that category fail to see this [00:07:46] because we're so desperate to ascribe [00:07:48] some kind of recognizable human motive [00:07:51] to what we're seeing so we call it [00:07:53] leftism or neoliberalism or communism or [00:07:56] anarchism we come up with some phrase to [00:07:58] describe it [00:08:00] but those phrases are inadequate they do [00:08:02] not describe what's actually happening [00:08:04] so what you're seeing now is really not [00:08:07] at all different in substance from what [00:08:09] you saw in 1789 in France from what you [00:08:11] saw 1936 in Spain from what you saw in [00:08:13] 1917 in Russia from what you saw in 1975 [00:08:17] in [00:08:18] nonen it's all the same these are forces [00:08:22] of chaos and destruction which are [00:08:24] fundamentally anti-human which are [00:08:25] against people by the way explain that [00:08:28] for a second what kind of movement could [00:08:30] be against people there are all sorts of [00:08:31] movements that are against people now [00:08:33] transhumanism AI is inherently [00:08:35] anti-people the climate cult is in [00:08:37] inherently anti- people explain that [00:08:39] rationally if your view of the world is [00:08:42] as mine was derived by an understanding [00:08:44] of evolutionary [00:08:45] biology all of us have been raised to [00:08:47] see the world through the lens of [00:08:48] evolutionary biology the species does [00:08:51] what it does because it's acting in its [00:08:53] own interest and its own interest is to [00:08:55] procreate to pass on its genes to [00:08:58] continue and so you tell me what we're [00:09:01] looking at if the defining movements of [00:09:04] our time are against carrying on our [00:09:07] genes procreating continuing is that [00:09:11] human well no is there any other animal [00:09:15] species that kills itself no is genocide [00:09:19] known in the natural world no it doesn't [00:09:20] even make sense dogs don't commit [00:09:22] genocide against other dogs maybe [00:09:24] against [00:09:25] rabbits that's cuz they're [00:09:27] hungry but no animal [00:09:30] decides to eliminate itself because it's [00:09:33] unnatural so it doesn't happen no animal [00:09:35] commits suicide that's not found in [00:09:38] nature okay that's something outside of [00:09:42] nature that's [00:09:44] Supernatural and that's what we're [00:09:46] seeing but it's also what we've seen [00:09:48] again and again and again throughout [00:09:49] history there are forces within every [00:09:51] society because they reside in the human [00:09:53] heart that are against people they are [00:09:56] dedicated to the destruction of people [00:09:57] and the civilizations that people build [00:10:00] and if you pay any attention at all to [00:10:05] history you will recognize it it's like [00:10:07] wait a second people are saying exactly [00:10:09] the same things the climate people the [00:10:11] AI people the transhumanist people the [00:10:13] Biden Administration they're saying [00:10:14] exactly the same kinds of things the [00:10:16] same themes that every other movement of [00:10:18] this kind and they had a million [00:10:20] different names for them throughout [00:10:21] history were also saying that's the [00:10:23] first thing I noticed the second thing I [00:10:25] notic is what do all of these movements [00:10:27] over the past 2,000 years have in common [00:10:28] who do they hate most as you can tell by [00:10:31] what I said about JD Vance I I think you [00:10:33] learn very [00:10:35] much by taking a look at who's mad at [00:10:38] whom and about what so if there's [00:10:41] something that threatens you pay close [00:10:43] attention to what makes them angriest [00:10:46] it's certainly true in my business which [00:10:47] is the speech business what are they [00:10:49] trying to get you not to say what are [00:10:50] they punishing you for saying those are [00:10:52] likely to be the truest things not the [00:10:54] falsest things it's not misinformation [00:10:55] it's not disinformation it's truth [00:10:57] that's why you hate it obviously that's [00:11:00] obvious now took me about 10 years to [00:11:01] figure this out I'm not a super [00:11:03] genius but what group do they dislike [00:11:06] most what group are they absolutely [00:11:08] terrified of and hoping to eliminate [00:11:11] well it's Christians that's who it is [00:11:13] it's [00:11:14] Christians and I'm saying this is not a [00:11:17] particularly fervent lifelong Christian [00:11:19] I I am a Christian but I haven't spent [00:11:21] my life you know surrounded by plumes of [00:11:23] incense deep in prayer I spent my life [00:11:25] in a newsroom saying the f- word I mean [00:11:27] I'm not sort of a Pious person at all [00:11:31] but I try to be a noticer since I'm paid [00:11:33] to do that and the group that makes them [00:11:36] angri as triggers them most I guess we [00:11:38] would say now is Christians Christian [00:11:41] nationalism people pray outside abortion [00:11:43] clinics people celebrate Easter and not [00:11:46] transvisibility [00:11:47] day these are their real [00:11:49] enemies but that's been true in [00:11:53] every revolution in the past 2,000 years [00:11:58] it was true during the culture [00:11:59] Revolution there weren't many Christians [00:12:00] in China they were the first to be [00:12:01] killed it was true in the French [00:12:03] Revolution they beheaded nuns what did [00:12:05] the nuns do were the nuns really an [00:12:07] impediment to progress no the nuns [00:12:10] existed and they pledged a higher fty to [00:12:12] Jesus and that was their crime and for [00:12:14] that they were killed it was true in the [00:12:17] beginning of the Spanish Civil War the [00:12:19] Communist side which wasn't really [00:12:20] communist at all it was anti-christian [00:12:23] what's the who's the first person they [00:12:24] executed well it wasn't a person at all [00:12:26] it was a statue of Jesus and they opened [00:12:28] fire on it with a firing [00:12:30] squad in a picture that when I was a [00:12:32] child was famous it's now probably [00:12:33] forgotten history probably still [00:12:34] available on Google as of this afternoon [00:12:36] you should look it up but if you find [00:12:38] yourself firing bullets at a statue what [00:12:41] you're really doing is revealing your [00:12:43] deepest [00:12:45] priority and that's to kill Christians [00:12:47] and why well you know I can't fully [00:12:50] answer that question because I am hardly [00:12:52] a theologian but I [00:12:55] think I do think it tells you everything [00:12:58] I think [00:12:59] the most obvious reason is anybody who [00:13:01] pledges a higher loyalty than the to the [00:13:04] people in charge who believe themselves [00:13:05] to be Gods is a threat but I think it's [00:13:07] more than that because it's not every [00:13:09] religion actually there are a lot of [00:13:11] religions I respect them all by the way [00:13:12] I I'm a just a believer in faithfulness [00:13:14] and acknowledging that you're not God [00:13:16] I'm probably the only right-winger in [00:13:17] the world who's not bothered when I see [00:13:19] muslims praying five times a day amen [00:13:22] anyone who acknowledges he's not God [00:13:23] five times a day is not my enemy that's [00:13:25] how I personally feel but it's not my [00:13:27] religion but it's actually not is Islam [00:13:29] or any other religion that makes these [00:13:32] leaders angry it's Christianity it's the [00:13:35] religion of Jesus that makes them angry [00:13:37] and that suggests that maybe there is [00:13:38] something a little deeper going on here [00:13:40] it's not just that they're in the way [00:13:41] Christians are hardly in the way they're [00:13:43] the most Peaceable people there are they [00:13:46] worship a God who tells them not to hurt [00:13:47] other people to turn the other cheek to [00:13:48] pray for their persecutor so it's not [00:13:50] like they're disruptive they're the [00:13:51] opposite of disruptive and yet they are [00:13:53] the [00:13:54] enemy so you should know this I think I [00:13:57] don't know if there any Christians here [00:13:58] or people who are you know interested in [00:14:01] continuing to live in the country you [00:14:02] grew up in but these are the terms and [00:14:05] these are the stakes they are not the [00:14:08] ones that we've been told they are left [00:14:09] versus right Republican versus Democrat [00:14:11] I learned that the hard way in the last [00:14:14] couple of days watching the leaders of [00:14:15] the Republican party not all the leaders [00:14:18] but a lot of them some of the most [00:14:20] powerful and richest people in the party [00:14:21] reveal who they really are and it made [00:14:24] me think that for the purposes of this [00:14:26] election I mean let's be honest Trump [00:14:28] just won [00:14:30] he won now only he surviv an [00:14:32] assassination attempt he stood up [00:14:35] without knowing whether there were other [00:14:36] Shooters there he stood up and faced the [00:14:38] crowd and raised his hand and said fight [00:14:39] fight fight that's [00:14:43] it you do that you win and by the way I [00:14:47] happen to notice that the crowd which [00:14:48] also didn't know whether there were [00:14:50] other Shooters who watched Trump get [00:14:52] shot in the face they did not bolt it [00:14:55] wasn't like a fire in a theater actually [00:14:57] they they sat there they watched him and [00:14:59] intently and when he stood up they [00:15:00] applauded him and many cried why is that [00:15:03] because a brave leader gives his people [00:15:05] heart that's why it's exactly [00:15:09] why so with [00:15:11] that Trump became president i' bet my [00:15:14] house on it and he defeated the [00:15:16] Democrats and on Merit by the way not [00:15:20] through the usual political scheming [00:15:21] I'll trade you a Sate seat for your vote [00:15:23] no he did it by being a man in a nation [00:15:26] of people who weren't quite just being [00:15:28] honest okay he acted like a man the kind [00:15:30] of man I respect and I think every [00:15:32] person feels this way every person no [00:15:34] matter what you think of trump because [00:15:36] leadership isn't actually all about you [00:15:39] know the way you talk it's about how [00:15:42] Brave you are that's what people want [00:15:44] they want a brave [00:15:45] leader so he won four months before the [00:15:49] actual election but it doesn't mean that [00:15:51] he doesn't have enemies and the truth [00:15:53] and no one wants to say it but it is [00:15:54] true a lot of the enemies are people who [00:15:56] claim to be his friends in the political [00:15:58] part I voted for my entire life and they [00:16:01] seek to subvert him and they seek to [00:16:04] channel the energy into a super dark [00:16:08] Direction and above all I'm just telling [00:16:10] you this the last thing I'll say and and [00:16:11] I'm sure this is like very upsetting to [00:16:13] everybody but it's just I just saw it [00:16:15] what do they care about what do you want [00:16:16] to know what they care about they only [00:16:17] care about war that's it that's what [00:16:19] they care about they don't care about [00:16:20] immigration obviously at all our country [00:16:22] is being colonized by the rest of the [00:16:23] world no problem they don't care about [00:16:25] the economy they're insulated from it [00:16:27] they don't care the only and they [00:16:30] certainly don't care that Trump has a [00:16:31] naughty [00:16:32] mouth said something you know UNT off [00:16:35] camera they could care less these are [00:16:37] filthy people right yeah they're [00:16:39] offended no they care about war they [00:16:41] want the [00:16:43] power to kill that's it and that's the [00:16:46] power of course everyone who wants to be [00:16:49] God seeks to possess that's why human [00:16:51] sacrifice was the thing I have the power [00:16:53] to kill only God has the power over life [00:16:56] and death and that's the power they want [00:16:58] andum trp has stood in their way [00:17:00] imperfectly but Trump's the only [00:17:02] President you know since Jimmy Carter [00:17:03] most of my life who hasn't committed us [00:17:05] to a brand new war that's what they hate [00:17:07] about him and that's what they were [00:17:08] trying to change over the last couple [00:17:09] days I saw it that's all they cared [00:17:11] about and they lied about it of course [00:17:13] and said all kinds of things were like [00:17:14] insane and totally untrue but that was [00:17:16] the motivator right there and when Trump [00:17:18] came out in 2016 and said the Iraq War [00:17:21] was a mistake which was very obvious to [00:17:23] those of us who were in Iraq while it [00:17:24] was going on it was like news to nobody [00:17:26] it was shocking in Washington and that [00:17:28] was the point which they sick the FBI on [00:17:30] him they started bugging him they [00:17:31] decided we can not have this guy because [00:17:33] he was trying to limit their most [00:17:34] important of all power which is to hurt [00:17:37] other people and so you should just know [00:17:39] this that's what the stakes are I think [00:17:42] he's going to win I think it's going to [00:17:43] be the I think it's going to be really [00:17:44] important to Rolling back some of this [00:17:46] insanity but you know there are a lot of [00:17:48] people who have other agendas and you [00:17:51] should just be aware of that thank you [00:17:53] so much for letting me spoil your [00:17:54] afternoon with that stuff [00:17:58] [Applause] [00:18:09] Tucker thanks for being here thanks for [00:18:11] speaking the truth and uh obviously we [00:18:13] have we have a lot that we can cover in [00:18:15] a short amount of time but let's start [00:18:18] with a homework assignment yes based on [00:18:20] what you just said things have changed [00:18:22] since [00:18:22] Saturday a lot of Americans in the [00:18:25] center and maybe even some Americans on [00:18:26] the center left saw that that near [00:18:29] tragedy that near assassination of of [00:18:31] President Trump and they realized oh [00:18:33] maybe I've not quite figured out what's [00:18:35] been going on a lot of us have been in [00:18:37] that category you've talked about that [00:18:38] yourself we at Heritage have said that [00:18:41] what do you advise the people who are in [00:18:43] this Auditorium and also the people [00:18:45] online to do with members of their [00:18:48] family friends neighbor who still don't [00:18:50] get it what's the advice that you give [00:18:52] us in having those conversations to [00:18:54] bring them into this movement that Trump [00:18:57] has built well I kind of feel [00:18:59] at this point that any you know first of [00:19:01] all anyone who thinks the status quo is [00:19:03] a good idea is probably not [00:19:05] convincible you know if you let tens of [00:19:07] millions of people into your country [00:19:08] illegally you destroy all your cities [00:19:10] you wreck the economy you can't afford [00:19:11] to go out to dinner you know things [00:19:13] aren't going well and if you're willing [00:19:14] to ignore that then you're probably not [00:19:17] someone I can persuade I would say that [00:19:19] um never give up on anyone but I you [00:19:21] know probably best to just pray for [00:19:23] those people instead of talk to them [00:19:24] about politics um I really think the the [00:19:28] core problem in the country right now is [00:19:30] bad leadership and by bad I mean weak [00:19:33] and I think more broadly weak men are [00:19:34] the problem you know you watch these [00:19:37] schools indoctrinate kids and try and [00:19:39] turn them into freaks circus Freaks and [00:19:42] in the country that I grew up in the dad [00:19:44] would just just punch the counselor out [00:19:47] you know put me in jail I don't care [00:19:48] like you you you weirdo I mean that's [00:19:50] like child molester stuff talking to my [00:19:52] kids about sex without telling me [00:19:53] where's Dad he should be beating the you [00:19:56] know this person like physically and I'm [00:19:58] happy to I just said I'm against [00:20:01] violence but that's like a very basic [00:20:03] it's like that's the most [00:20:05] basic requirement of fatherhood but also [00:20:08] of leadership more broadly is to be [00:20:10] willing to die for the people in your [00:20:12] care period And if you're not willing to [00:20:14] do that you're contemptible and what is [00:20:17] that what are we looking at when we [00:20:19] acknowledge that well we're looking at [00:20:21] the fact which is strength is the basic [00:20:24] requirement of leadership weak [00:20:26] leadership is an oxymoron and with weak [00:20:29] leaders a nation dies a family dies a [00:20:31] weak father will destroy a family you [00:20:33] know a weak officer will get his men [00:20:35] killed and a weak president will wreck [00:20:37] his country and that's exactly what [00:20:39] we've seen I mean Biden's core problem [00:20:42] is [00:20:42] weakness and what Trump displayed on [00:20:45] Saturday was strength of the most basic [00:20:49] kind that is absolutely impossible to [00:20:51] fake you can think whatever you want [00:20:52] about Trump or whatever you've heard [00:20:53] about Trump you watch that tape the guy [00:20:55] is shot in the face and is bleeding and [00:20:58] forces the Secret Service to allow them [00:21:00] to stand up and faces the crowd I mean [00:21:03] you know all men it's you know when [00:21:06] they're boys tell themselves well [00:21:07] something happened I would jump right in [00:21:09] and you know what I mean like I'd stop [00:21:10] the shooter but you don't know that [00:21:12] actually because you're not faced with [00:21:14] it I mean very few people are tested in [00:21:16] the way Trump was tested on Saturday and [00:21:18] not only did he pass he got the highest [00:21:19] score ever recorded and so you can't [00:21:22] look at that and it's not again it's not [00:21:24] fak that's just real it's undeniably [00:21:27] real no one staged that [00:21:29] and so anyone who looks at that video I [00:21:33] think comes away thinking that person [00:21:34] has to lead the country because the [00:21:36] option is more destruction that's what I [00:21:39] think just watch the [00:21:46] video you know during your your comment [00:21:49] there and also your comment from the [00:21:51] podium it occurred to me that CS Lewis's [00:21:54] great phrase men without chests is [00:21:56] really apropo here and and not to go you [00:21:59] know too intellectual or academic here [00:22:01] although remember I do lead a think tank [00:22:03] it seems as [00:22:04] [Laughter] [00:22:06] if yeah I would agree with that I would [00:22:10] agree it it seems as if Americans are [00:22:12] saying Washington Elites New York Elites [00:22:15] all of these Elites have complicated [00:22:17] life and what Trump showed us in that [00:22:20] moment of near tragedy as you said is [00:22:22] just something basic and what we're all [00:22:24] yearning for is just a return to normal [00:22:28] and it is normal for a strong man for a [00:22:30] man period to respond the way you [00:22:32] describe to the the school counselor you [00:22:35] know with with all this disorder it's [00:22:37] normal although very very heroic in in [00:22:39] on a on a tremendous scale for president [00:22:41] Trump to have responded the way he did [00:22:43] but it shows how starve this country is [00:22:45] for just normal things what's your [00:22:48] prediction for themes this week at the [00:22:50] RNC from a from a messaging expert he's [00:22:53] got his pulse on things what should the [00:22:55] campaign really focus on not just for [00:22:57] president Trump and Mr van [00:22:59] but for people out here in the audience [00:23:00] and digitally who are going to be [00:23:02] involved in local campaigns what do we [00:23:04] need to be emphasizing rhetorically well [00:23:06] I mean I think can I say one thing [00:23:08] really quick which is the definition of [00:23:09] strength I think needs to be a little [00:23:10] more precise strength is not abusive [00:23:13] Behavior or authoritarian Behavior [00:23:14] that's what weak people do that's what [00:23:16] Gretchen Whitmer did during covid in the [00:23:20] neighboring state of Michigan this is a [00:23:21] demonstrably weak person with a facelift [00:23:23] who's like terrified to go out in public [00:23:25] and yet she's telling people they can't [00:23:27] buy paint in a paint store that's not [00:23:28] strength that's fragility she is fragile [00:23:33] and brittle and that's why she's acting [00:23:34] that way true strength is calm that's [00:23:37] the first thing about strength someone [00:23:38] who's actually strong is in command [00:23:40] doesn't need to prove it because people [00:23:42] can smell it the second thing about [00:23:44] strength is it serves others it I mean [00:23:47] willingness to die for the people you [00:23:49] lead is a prerequisite okay I not afraid [00:23:53] I'm willing to lay down my life for you [00:23:55] okay that's clearly the message of [00:23:58] strength it's what Trump displayed on [00:24:00] Saturday and people's reaction to it is [00:24:03] amazing they instantly calm down dad's [00:24:05] home everything is okay it's it's [00:24:08] received on a visceral level so to the [00:24:11] extent that the campaign and I I'm not a [00:24:12] messaging person obviously I'm like half [00:24:14] insane and can't stop talking so I'm not [00:24:17] good at messaging but to the extent that [00:24:20] they can convey that you know it's fine [00:24:22] actually and I think I do think the [00:24:24] campaign is trying to say that in its [00:24:27] Unity [00:24:28] message and a lot of people hear unity [00:24:32] and they think well Unity implies some [00:24:34] sort of compromise conversation you [00:24:37] can't have a conversation with people [00:24:38] who are unwilling to compromise the left [00:24:40] which is a religious movement is [00:24:41] unwilling to compromise on any level at [00:24:43] all they won't even admit men can't [00:24:44] become women so you how can you have [00:24:46] Unity with people like that and of [00:24:47] course you can't but I think what [00:24:49] they're really trying to say is Let's [00:24:52] ignore some of the insanity actually be [00:24:55] in charge you don't need to constantly [00:24:57] remind people you're in charge just do [00:24:59] it I mean a good Father's not constantly [00:25:01] telling you how hard he works to you [00:25:03] know pay for the food you're eating he [00:25:05] just does it and you notice after a [00:25:08] while and you're calmed by that and I [00:25:10] think maybe that's the message we don't [00:25:12] need to respond to all this nonsense [00:25:14] you're too small to respond to that's [00:25:16] the way that's what I would do no one [00:25:18] wants to hear like why is MSNBC still on [00:25:21] the air nobody watches it same with Cena [00:25:24] nobody watches it and if I I look back [00:25:26] on my life I've worked at both CNN and [00:25:29] MSNBC so for me it's you know the hatred [00:25:31] is absolutely [00:25:34] real but too much though too much [00:25:36] unhelpfully don't feel hatred that [00:25:38] itself is a sign of weakness in my [00:25:39] opinion and lack of self-discipline but [00:25:41] why are we even talking about them [00:25:43] nobody [00:25:44] watches nobody watches I my nephew get [00:25:47] drunk and post something on X and he's [00:25:49] got more viewers than MSNBC prime time [00:25:52] I'm serious so like why are we even [00:25:54] giving them Oxygen by engaging with them [00:25:57] Their audience is [00:25:58] I hope that's part of what they're [00:26:00] saying I saw Don Jr who is really my [00:26:03] favorite person um in Trump World who [00:26:05] really I think does understand I [00:26:07] shouldn't even be saying this but it's [00:26:09] true understands the voters and how they [00:26:11] feel um like on a real level on a gut [00:26:14] level but I saw him do an interview with [00:26:16] MSNBC today and they're like you know [00:26:18] are you going to separate more families [00:26:19] at the border really you let in tens of [00:26:21] millions of illegal aliens and wreck our [00:26:23] country and that's your concern and he [00:26:26] just looked at the guy he's like yeah go [00:26:27] away like enough he didn't yell at him [00:26:30] just go away I it's not even worth it [00:26:32] actually and I think that posture is [00:26:35] kind of what's needed right now I'm not [00:26:36] going to engage with you you you I've [00:26:38] tried for seven years now eight years to [00:26:42] have a conversation in good faith I used [00:26:43] to try to book these people my show not [00:26:45] one person would come on my show to [00:26:46] debate the other side and then of course [00:26:47] I got fired anyway but it's it's like [00:26:51] it's better just to be like common in [00:26:53] command and I think that that restores [00:26:56] Tranquility to the country faster than [00:26:58] any rhetorical argument you could [00:27:01] make so that's high-profile high-profile [00:27:05] National example which which is great [00:27:07] and I also want to give some folks an [00:27:09] idea of what they might be able to do [00:27:11] locally and it seems as if you're saying [00:27:14] whomever you are National profile don't [00:27:16] engage with these Outlets that are dying [00:27:18] don't give them the oxygen that there's [00:27:20] also a lesson there about what we might [00:27:22] do at the local level What I Hear most [00:27:23] of all is I'm traveling the country from [00:27:25] people like in these in this audience I [00:27:27] know you do as well is Kevin how what [00:27:29] advice do you have for me talking to my [00:27:31] local school board talking to my local [00:27:33] city council they of course want to [00:27:35] cancel us but at some point people are [00:27:38] going to those meetings especially [00:27:39] Schoolboard meetings because they are [00:27:41] invested in it with their own kids and [00:27:43] grandkids what's your advice for them [00:27:45] because my and I think you know this but [00:27:47] our rationale at Heritage in asking that [00:27:49] question is we want this to be not just [00:27:51] about DC and New York power centers we [00:27:54] want Americans after Saturday's tragedy [00:27:57] to understand this is also about what [00:27:59] we're doing in our lives on a daily and [00:28:01] weekly basis and to give people that [00:28:03] that advice about how to expand the [00:28:06] ranks of this movement [00:28:07] locally well I I think Saturday is the [00:28:10] inspirational moment to to do that and [00:28:13] what's the lesson of Saturday I mean [00:28:14] there probably many lessons one is like [00:28:17] if a guy 150 ft away at a political [00:28:20] rally climbs a ladder with a [00:28:24] rifle you know maybe this whole system [00:28:27] is not quite what what we were told it [00:28:28] is okay sorry um so there's that but the [00:28:33] big picture takeaway is bravery is the [00:28:37] essential quality it's the essential [00:28:38] quality what's the takeaway from [00:28:40] Saturday Trump's going be president [00:28:42] because he's Brave period period like [00:28:44] actually Brave physically Brave like [00:28:47] facing death shot in the [00:28:49] face and unbowed unafraid [00:28:53] defiant and and that that's the only [00:28:55] thing that works and I do think there's [00:28:57] been so much Whispering among the [00:29:00] persecuted right about wow you know does [00:29:02] this come to a time when we have to like [00:29:04] physically fight back and I don't think [00:29:07] it takes that it doesn't you don't have [00:29:08] to hurt anyone to save your country you [00:29:11] do have to willing you have to be [00:29:12] willing to be hurt however period you [00:29:14] you have to be willing to make a [00:29:16] sacrifice you do and I think people are [00:29:18] cowards I'm just saying that sorry not [00:29:20] no one in particular they're an awful [00:29:21] lot of cowards meet sometimes too but [00:29:24] Trump is a reminder that doesn't work [00:29:25] the only thing that works is bravery so [00:29:27] if you walk in to a school board meeting [00:29:30] the first thing they do is seize the [00:29:31] moral High Ground unjustly these are the [00:29:33] people who have the least claim on the [00:29:35] moral High Ground they're immoral [00:29:36] they're filthy actually um they're [00:29:38] sexualizing your children they should be [00:29:40] in prison but somehow they manage [00:29:42] through rhetorical tricks to make you [00:29:45] feel like you're the freak because you [00:29:46] want them to get their tentacles off [00:29:48] your kids and you've already lost if you [00:29:51] allow that and so the way to approach [00:29:54] them I mean it's a matter of employing [00:29:56] words but moral Force you will not do [00:29:58] that I will not accept that under no [00:30:00] circumstance I will do everything I can [00:30:02] as long as I draw breath to stop you [00:30:04] from doing that to my children you have [00:30:05] no right what you're doing is totally [00:30:07] immoral it's criminal and I will stop [00:30:09] you period you don't need to [00:30:11] scream and I and I and I think to say [00:30:15] when people approach you and say well if [00:30:17] you're against this you're a racist or [00:30:19] if you're against that you're a whatever [00:30:21] they call you [00:30:22] names someone who has been called a few [00:30:25] names I can promise you that not one [00:30:27] person calling you believes that you are [00:30:29] those things or even cares in fact [00:30:31] they're almost always those things [00:30:32] themselves it's purely a leash around [00:30:35] your neck designed to control you it's a [00:30:38] manipulation device everyone here knows [00:30:40] that already we've been going through [00:30:41] this for many years and so if you're [00:30:43] still worrying about it then that's on [00:30:45] you like I don't care what you call me [00:30:47] actually I also don't care if you put me [00:30:48] in jail I really don't I mean Gandhi I [00:30:52] know I mean I have mixed feelings about [00:30:54] Gandhi but he did end the Raj after he [00:30:57] kicked the British out of India after [00:30:59] 300 years and all he did was talk and [00:31:02] just stand there and be obstreperous in [00:31:04] a peaceful way and that worked I mean [00:31:07] there's it's a little more complicated [00:31:08] than that but that's that's kind of [00:31:09] fundamentally what happened one guy was [00:31:11] like no as Soul niton famously said to [00:31:13] bring down a tyrany it takes one man who [00:31:15] will tell the truth that's it and so I [00:31:17] think it is as simple as that I really [00:31:19] do believe that I know that sounds [00:31:21] childlike but it's it's demonstrable in [00:31:22] history and it's clearly true now you [00:31:24] don't need to I mean I would definitely [00:31:25] not give up your guns ever under any [00:31:27] circumstance [00:31:28] and they're going to try and make you do [00:31:30] oh the real lesson of the shooting is [00:31:31] you shouldn't be able to defend yourself [00:31:32] I don't think it is the real lesson is [00:31:34] you're dangerous and you can't have [00:31:36] power actually um because you caused [00:31:38] this as we all know so but the point is [00:31:41] don't let them seize the moral High [00:31:42] Ground stay calm stay assured in your [00:31:46] spirit that you are right and be willing [00:31:48] to make an actual sacrifice on behalf of [00:31:51] your family in your country and if [00:31:52] you're not willing well then the country [00:31:53] is going to go to them and they're going [00:31:54] to eat you that's just [00:31:56] true one are the other lessons I think [00:31:58] too is is how disordered the left is [00:32:01] regarding the centrality of politics I [00:32:03] mean you even said it here a few moments [00:32:05] ago that politics in essence is is [00:32:07] religion for them and it seems to me [00:32:09] that we not just we on the right but [00:32:11] just we period as As Americans whatever [00:32:14] our political ideology may be ought to [00:32:17] reject that concept and understand that [00:32:19] there are things so much more important [00:32:21] than politics in other words to be [00:32:23] engaged in that kind of framework with [00:32:25] the left we're always going to lose or [00:32:27] often going to lose I've heard you talk [00:32:29] about living the good life and it it [00:32:32] I've reflected on that since Saturday [00:32:34] night from that moment as a standing [00:32:35] with my 14-year-old daughter who was [00:32:37] sobbing because we thought the absolute [00:32:39] worst when we first saw the news as I'm [00:32:41] sure everyone did but then I realized ah [00:32:44] here's a moment in addition to the [00:32:46] politics and the policy which are [00:32:47] important where we've really got to get [00:32:49] back to especially us here to living the [00:32:52] good life what advice do you have for us [00:32:54] for keeping this in [00:32:56] perspective thank thank you I mean I I [00:32:58] think about this every day I mean one of [00:33:00] the lies about living in a certain way [00:33:03] is that you have to be rich and it's [00:33:04] hard for me to say because I made a lot [00:33:05] more money a lot more money than I ever [00:33:07] thought I would so it's like oh yeah [00:33:08] rich guy lecturing us about you know how [00:33:10] to live um but if you saw how I actually [00:33:13] lived I I think you'd see it could be [00:33:15] done pretty cheaply I'm not into [00:33:17] spending money um no I mean for me The [00:33:20] Good Life Is A Life That's rooted in [00:33:23] physical reality actually I think one of [00:33:25] the main problems with the modern world [00:33:27] is how abstract which is to say digital [00:33:30] everything is and I find it essential um [00:33:34] to maintaining happiness and Clarity and [00:33:37] perspective to get away from that if my [00:33:40] rule is if I can't smell it it's not [00:33:41] really [00:33:42] real and I believe that I really do I [00:33:45] sniff everything and everybody in my I'm [00:33:47] not joking at all you sound like Joe [00:33:48] Biden I mean it I I defended his hair [00:33:51] sniffing because I do the same and I'm [00:33:53] not ashamed of it but I'm not a weirdo [00:33:54] or a creep I didn't shower with my [00:33:55] daughter so it's it's cool when I I [00:33:58] think it's defensible I do but the point [00:34:00] is don't spend your life in a fake World [00:34:05] spend your life with other people who [00:34:07] you can touch and smell and whose eyes [00:34:09] you can see I think animals are [00:34:11] incredibly important I really believe [00:34:12] that the older I get I think it's really [00:34:14] important God created animals we have [00:34:16] dominion over them it doesn't mean that [00:34:18] they're totally different from us [00:34:19] they're not and there's something about [00:34:21] animals that brings us back to reality I [00:34:23] could never live without dogs we have a [00:34:25] lot of dogs I think it's very important [00:34:27] it's not just like oh it's my pet it's [00:34:29] like no no no it's an expression of [00:34:31] God's creation of beauty and I think [00:34:34] nature and trees are just essential I [00:34:35] could not live without them I don't [00:34:37] understand how people can live in glass [00:34:40] cubes on the 27th floor in Midtown I [00:34:42] think it's terrible for you I think it's [00:34:44] wrong that we would encourage that and I [00:34:47] don't think a lot of the things that are [00:34:49] described as progress are progress at [00:34:51] all I think that they are [00:34:53] imprisonment and um and I and I and I [00:34:56] think technology is is is uh you know a [00:34:58] mixed blessing at best I really do I I [00:35:01] feel I have very extreme views on this [00:35:02] which I'm not going to share with you [00:35:03] because I don't want to reveal how crank [00:35:05] is and crazy I really am on the subject [00:35:07] but we accept technological [00:35:10] progress a as progress when it's [00:35:13] enslavement actually and that's super [00:35:15] obvious no one does anything about it [00:35:17] ever you know you hear people say in [00:35:19] like Think Tank world or cable TV news [00:35:20] world oh yeah we're spending too much [00:35:22] time on our phones it's like no actually [00:35:24] we really are and it's destroying our [00:35:26] souls and making us crazy and unhappy [00:35:28] and dividing us most importantly from [00:35:30] one another so you know take affirmative [00:35:33] very aggressive like don't allow a cell [00:35:35] phone in your bedroom you weirdo what no [00:35:37] don't allow don't allow in the bedroom [00:35:40] you know I wouldn't allow I don't know a [00:35:41] circus elephant in my bedroom too [00:35:43] disruptive don't allow an iPhone just [00:35:45] like how's how's that so for at least [00:35:47] eight hours a day I I don't have that [00:35:49] there are other activities that the [00:35:50] bedroom was designed for and you know [00:35:53] your phone or whatever anyway take that [00:35:55] seriously I think and get outside and [00:35:59] and if you're not married just just grab [00:36:01] someone off the street and do it it's [00:36:02] not that hard I mean it I I half mean [00:36:04] that actually it's not I don't think [00:36:06] it's that it's never been hard for me [00:36:08] this is the danger of asking you an [00:36:09] open-ended question I know because I as [00:36:11] I said luckily I begin all comments with [00:36:14] the caveat I am half insane which is [00:36:17] demonstrable last question a little [00:36:19] open-ended it's January [00:36:23] 2029 president Trump is giving his [00:36:26] Farewell Address [00:36:28] we tend to on the political right think [00:36:30] in worst case scenario terms but we at [00:36:33] Heritage as you know try to get people [00:36:34] to think in best case scenario terms [00:36:37] what's the best case scenario for the [00:36:39] message regarding what he's accomplished [00:36:41] but also more importantly where the [00:36:43] country is [00:36:44] going well the most I mean by far the [00:36:47] most important question uh is does the [00:36:50] country hold together and the country [00:36:52] can only hold together if there is a [00:36:54] consensus view not a universal view but [00:36:56] a consensus view of majority of view on [00:36:58] what it is to be an American it's not a [00:37:00] racial group it's now it's not a [00:37:02] linguistic [00:37:03] designation um it the population of the [00:37:06] country has changed so radically in such [00:37:08] a short period that it it risks breaking [00:37:11] apart because not enough people have [00:37:14] enough in common with one another that [00:37:15] would be a tragedy that would never end [00:37:17] well despite the fantasies you read on [00:37:19] Twitter about how we you know that [00:37:20] that's not going to happen without [00:37:22] massive Bloodshed you don't want that to [00:37:23] happen period so you want the country to [00:37:26] hold together but it can only hold [00:37:27] together if most people understand that [00:37:30] they are Americans cuz why what do they [00:37:32] have in common it can't just be [00:37:34] competing groups who are trying to screw [00:37:36] the other ones out of some prize you [00:37:39] know some money that other people made [00:37:40] that's very quickly where we're going [00:37:43] and so Above All Above All after [00:37:46] avoiding nuclear war which has got to be [00:37:47] the first one and only Trump will do [00:37:48] that and JD Vance everyone else was like [00:37:51] totally into nuclear war all the other [00:37:52] people he was considering let's have a [00:37:53] nuclear war okay children anyway um so [00:37:58] after that the most important long-term [00:38:01] question is what do we all have in [00:38:04] common and only a leader can establish [00:38:06] that it doesn't need to be explicit by [00:38:08] the way I don't think Trump's going to [00:38:09] give a speech when he's president saying [00:38:11] here are the five things we require of [00:38:13] every American or every American must [00:38:15] believe it's not quite that simple but [00:38:17] there has to evolve a sense of what we [00:38:20] have in common of what we share because [00:38:22] we don't look alike again we don't speak [00:38:24] the same language often times we don't [00:38:25] have the same religion so what is it [00:38:27] that we have in common that has to be [00:38:30] the overriding goal above all others and [00:38:34] um the last thing I'll say is I think [00:38:36] the big change in the last week is the [00:38:39] social sanction levied against people [00:38:41] for supporting Trump is disappearing [00:38:43] fast it is one of the reasons this was [00:38:46] such a divided country is that people [00:38:48] were not allowed like normal white [00:38:49] collar professionals were not allowed to [00:38:51] even consider the possibility that Trump [00:38:53] might be less than Hitler and now I [00:38:56] think they can I do I think after [00:38:58] Saturday that is the big change people [00:39:00] like you know maybe I didn't like Trump [00:39:01] I didn't vote for him the first time but [00:39:02] all of a sudden I'm seeing I don't know [00:39:03] Elon Musk just endorsed him the you know [00:39:06] I think the country's largest government [00:39:07] contractor a guy with an awful lot to [00:39:09] lose there was anyone with a lot to lose [00:39:11] yeah he's the richest guy in the world [00:39:12] okay he's also got the most to lose in [00:39:13] the world and that guy just endorsed [00:39:15] Trump publicly about five minutes after [00:39:17] the shooting that is a watershed in my [00:39:21] opinion Bill Amman you know someone I [00:39:23] don't agree with on a lot of things Bill [00:39:24] akman also a lot to lose someone who's I [00:39:26] doubt ever voted for a republican those [00:39:29] are signals to the rest of the country [00:39:30] again these are not people I necessarily [00:39:32] agree with on the issues at all however [00:39:34] what those gesture signal to everyone [00:39:36] else it's like well I I guess I could do [00:39:38] that if I wanted to also that is a [00:39:41] prerequisite for National healing and [00:39:43] for National Unity doesn't mean you have [00:39:45] to agree with some in other words if [00:39:47] somebody said to me four years ago like [00:39:50] you're not allowed to support Joe Biden [00:39:52] well I never supported Joe Biden of I [00:39:54] don't agree with him on anything I [00:39:55] didn't yet hate Joe Biden I now do I'm [00:39:57] ashamed to say I actually hate Joe Biden [00:39:59] but I don't want to feel that way but I [00:40:01] do I do because he's wrecking my country [00:40:04] my kids live here but if someone said to [00:40:05] me four years AG you're not allowed to [00:40:07] support Jo bid I said it's a bad thing [00:40:08] you should be all to support any [00:40:09] candidate you want it's a free Society [00:40:11] it's a free country it's a free country [00:40:13] a phrase that was common in my youth and [00:40:15] now extinct but it is still a free [00:40:16] country it must remain a free country [00:40:18] and in order for that to happen you have [00:40:20] to have the right as the average person [00:40:22] to support anyone you want and I do [00:40:24] think you now have the right to support [00:40:25] Trump and that's the beginning of [00:40:27] healing for [00:40:35] us Tucker thanks for being here thanks [00:40:37] for everything you do on behalf of [00:40:38] everyone here and I know millions of [00:40:40] Americans we're grateful for your [00:40:42] Clarity and matching that with an [00:40:45] unfailing sense of humor God bless you [00:40:47] my friend Kevin God bless you thank you [00:41:00] awesome