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[00:00:00] my radio show, podcast, and social
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[00:00:10] We're talking to so many voters that
[00:00:13] know it is time for change. They know
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[00:00:17] future is a series of choices.
[00:00:21] Our current state of slow motion
[00:00:25] national decline is a choice. Today is
[00:00:30] our 2-year-old's birthday.
[00:00:34] And I look at my daughter and that is my
[00:00:36] why. For those that are parents, you
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[00:00:40] >> There is no mountain that stands tall as
[00:00:44] your faithfulness.
[00:00:50] There is no river that runs wide as your
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[00:01:08] man. Charlie, uh, I I remember when we
[00:01:12] were starting these out and
[00:01:13] >> it was that like that,
[00:01:14] >> you know, it was like this. It was like
[00:01:16] it was like your average
[00:01:17] >> three rows.
[00:01:18] >> It was like your average political
[00:01:19] meeting where there was like 12 people
[00:01:20] in a room and uh, this is this is
[00:01:23] awesome.
[00:01:27] This, in my personal opinion, was the
[00:01:29] most over-the-top Trump event that I've
[00:01:32] ever covered. This is the number one
[00:01:34] boots on the ground operation in the
[00:01:35] country. We're working directly in
[00:01:37] harmony with the Trump campaign. It's
[00:01:38] been vetted. It's been cleared. It's
[00:01:39] been blessed, as you could see there.
[00:01:41] And we're going to try to win this
[00:01:42] thing. No guarantees. It's what we do
[00:01:43] that matters.
[00:01:44] >> Mr. President, I can tell you this room
[00:01:46] is 100% with you, and we have your back.
[00:01:48] God bless you. We really do. Thank you.
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[00:02:02] As you know, we are heading on campus
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[00:02:10] students. It's going to be a lot of fun.
[00:02:12] Uh we are excited to continue this
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[00:02:21] disagreement is not just welcome. It is
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[00:02:25] conversations. That's what it's all
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[00:02:49] because you're not supposed to be
[00:02:51] involved in this. You're supposed to
[00:02:52] just kind of be on the vote for me every
[00:02:54] four years, give me more political power
[00:02:56] and stay out of my business. And what
[00:02:58] has happened is we are seeing an
[00:02:59] explosion in citizen participation.
[00:03:03] There is nothing
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[00:03:12] All of my days
[00:03:15] your mercy follow me.
[00:03:22] Oh, there is nothing
[00:03:26] else I'll ever need. Knock on that extra
[00:03:30] door. Go that extra mile. talk to that
[00:03:32] extra friend because throughout voting
[00:03:35] month and culminating on the 5th of
[00:03:38] November, I believe it will go down as a
[00:03:40] day that people remember, as a day that
[00:03:43] is written about in history books, as
[00:03:46] the final battle from the golden
[00:03:48] escalator on down from defeating Hillary
[00:03:50] Clinton, from the nonsense of 2020, from
[00:03:53] Butler, Pennsylvania, November 5th, it
[00:03:55] all culminates where we restore the
[00:03:58] promise that the founders gave us. and
[00:04:00] they said, "Hey, if the people want it,
[00:04:03] the people get it, and we the people
[00:04:05] take back America. God bless Arizona."
[00:04:08] And thank you so much.
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[00:04:18] Every day, the American people demand
[00:04:21] certain accomplishments and victories.
[00:04:24] Disagreement is what keeps a movement
[00:04:26] alive, keeps a movement fun. Here in
[00:04:29] this country, we are a country of
[00:04:31] flourishing. We're a country of
[00:04:32] risk-taking. We're a country of
[00:04:34] building. We will achieve American
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[00:04:40] >> All my days
[00:04:43] your mercy follow me.
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[00:06:26] Every day there's a battle for your mind
[00:06:28] raging. Information coming from every
[00:06:30] angle with the will to deceive. Fear
[00:06:33] not. You found the place for truth. the
[00:06:36] voice of a generation that still has the
[00:06:38] will to believe in the greatest country
[00:06:40] in the history of the world. This is the
[00:06:43] Charlie Kirk show. Buckle up. Here we
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[00:06:50] >> Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly and I am
[00:06:52] honored to be sitting in Charlie Kirk's
[00:06:54] studio hosting the Charlie Kirk show.
[00:06:56] We're simal casting it out right now for
[00:06:58] our listeners on the Megan Kelly show
[00:07:00] and we're all so honored to be a part of
[00:07:02] this. um traveled out to Arizona last
[00:07:05] night and just stepping foot in the
[00:07:08] state. I mean, you can't go more than a
[00:07:10] hundred feet without seeing something to
[00:07:12] honor Charlie, especially here at the
[00:07:15] headquarters of Turning Point where you
[00:07:17] pull up and it is like something the
[00:07:20] only thing that I can compare to it is
[00:07:22] after Princess Diana died where you see
[00:07:24] the teddy bears and the balloons and the
[00:07:27] signage lining just the entire campus
[00:07:31] outside of this building. I mean,
[00:07:32] there's an incredible outpouring around
[00:07:34] the world for him, and I'm so honored to
[00:07:38] be sitting here in the studio. I'm here
[00:07:40] uh right now with Andrew Kulovit. He's
[00:07:42] Charlie's executive producer. Andrew,
[00:07:44] thank you so much for inviting me.
[00:07:46] >> Oh, thank you for making the journey and
[00:07:48] the trip. I know it's no small task. And
[00:07:52] you honor Charlie. Charlie would be so
[00:07:53] honored. And you were one of his dearest
[00:07:57] friends in this whole crazy media and
[00:07:59] conservative space. and he would
[00:08:02] absolutely I I started making calls
[00:08:05] probably within 36 hours and I knew
[00:08:10] exactly who to call and you were
[00:08:13] absolutely one of those people and so
[00:08:15] thank you for making this work.
[00:08:17] >> Thank you. I just I feel like the one
[00:08:20] thing I can say about me and Charlie is,
[00:08:22] you know, I think you once described it
[00:08:24] as the weird chemistry he and I had
[00:08:26] together on the air, you know, because I
[00:08:29] I absolutely loved talking to him. I
[00:08:32] can't think of somebody I wanted to talk
[00:08:34] to more ever when I saw it was a Charlie
[00:08:36] Kirk day on the show. I knew it was
[00:08:38] going to be a great program. I knew he
[00:08:40] was going to bring something different
[00:08:41] than what we would hear from everybody
[00:08:43] else. And one of the things that I knew
[00:08:46] I'd get from Charlie was humor.
[00:08:48] >> Yes.
[00:08:48] >> Always made me laugh.
[00:08:49] >> That's an underappreciated quality of
[00:08:51] Charlie. And I'm I don't want to give
[00:08:53] away where we're going with this show.
[00:08:55] If you want to, that's fine. You're
[00:08:57] driving today. But the people closest to
[00:09:00] him, the people in this building, they
[00:09:02] all have many stories about how Charlie
[00:09:05] just made them, you know, kill over
[00:09:07] laughing just because he was really
[00:09:10] funny. He had a very dry sense of humor
[00:09:12] and it was very Charlie. There was there
[00:09:14] I don't know how you could really
[00:09:16] describe it. They're going to have to
[00:09:17] tell you themselves. But yeah, and that
[00:09:19] came through in interviews with you. It
[00:09:21] didn't come through with everybody,
[00:09:22] >> but with you, he had you guys had this
[00:09:25] this rapport. And I remember always
[00:09:27] texting back and forth with your team
[00:09:29] cuz you're on the air with him and he's
[00:09:31] on the air with you and we would be
[00:09:32] like, "Oh, this is great. Oh my gosh,
[00:09:34] this is amazing." And I remember you
[00:09:36] going on Shawn Ryan's show and he was
[00:09:37] like, "Who should I interview?" And a
[00:09:39] lot of people sent me this clip. I don't
[00:09:41] know if I ever told you that, but I saw
[00:09:42] it and you were like, "You should have
[00:09:44] Charlie Kirk on." It never happened. And
[00:09:46] that's fine. I met Sean a couple times
[00:09:48] and we were always kind of talking about
[00:09:50] maybe whatever,
[00:09:51] >> but the fact that you were
[00:09:53] >> I just knew I because I felt like for
[00:09:56] the first couple years that Charlie and
[00:09:57] I were talking, it wasn't by no means
[00:09:59] was it that Charlie was undiscovered. He
[00:10:01] he had been discovered and he had
[00:10:03] already built this massive organization.
[00:10:05] But
[00:10:06] >> in more traditional Republican circles,
[00:10:08] he wasn't as well known. And in some
[00:10:10] circles, not as well understood.
[00:10:12] >> You know, they the establishment.
[00:10:14] >> Yeah. They thought he was fringy. And I
[00:10:17] would tell all my friends in that lane,
[00:10:19] "No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You got to
[00:10:20] listen to him. He's hugely important to
[00:10:23] the future of the Republican party and
[00:10:24] the country."
[00:10:25] >> And they would listen. You know, I mean,
[00:10:27] more and more he was gaining friends
[00:10:28] even among that wing, of course. But you
[00:10:30] know, in the beginning, people threat
[00:10:32] feel threatened by somebody who's coming
[00:10:34] up in their lane. They don't want to
[00:10:35] lose their positions. Is he going to
[00:10:37] take over the Republican party and then
[00:10:39] Charlie just by sheer force of will and
[00:10:41] personality and goodness won them over.
[00:10:44] It was to know him truly was to love
[00:10:46] him. And you're going to see that. I
[00:10:48] think re very rarely,
[00:10:51] you know, people that work with a very
[00:10:53] demanding, hard-driving person, which
[00:10:55] Charlie was. There's no doubt you very
[00:10:58] rarely do you couple that with the more
[00:11:01] time you spend with him the more you
[00:11:02] love him.
[00:11:03] >> And everybody in this building and
[00:11:05] turning point staff will have the same
[00:11:07] exact reaction. It he was endearing
[00:11:12] in the most amazing way and I I had told
[00:11:15] so many people this actually. I'm really
[00:11:17] proud that I got to before he died that
[00:11:19] you just can't help but love the guy
[00:11:22] because the mission, his belief, his
[00:11:24] faith, and his he was generous to a
[00:11:27] fault. He was loyal to a fault, and he
[00:11:29] was trustworthy.
[00:11:31] >> And he would never ever spill the beans.
[00:11:34] He wouldn't gossip.
[00:11:35] >> I've never heard him say a negative word
[00:11:37] about anybody. No. Even on the air, we,
[00:11:38] you know, he'd come on, we'd be talking
[00:11:40] about who's in the news. And half our
[00:11:41] friends are always in the news because
[00:11:42] they say controversial things, what have
[00:11:44] you. And so you always got to, you know,
[00:11:46] treat it gingerly when you're going to
[00:11:48] talk about something like that. But
[00:11:48] Charlie was always, he would always say,
[00:11:50] I'm just never gonna say anything bad
[00:11:51] about that person. He would own it, you
[00:11:53] know, like I don't care whether they're
[00:11:54] in the news or not. I'm not going to do
[00:11:56] that.
[00:11:56] >> Yeah. Even if he disagreed with them
[00:11:57] privately, you know, a lot of our
[00:11:59] friends would say things that would, you
[00:12:02] know, cause a big stir and there was
[00:12:04] pressure. You got to condemn this. You
[00:12:06] got to call this person out. You got to
[00:12:07] do this. And Charlie was like, "No,
[00:12:08] >> no, he never did." And honestly, I'm I'm
[00:12:11] now trying to live by that example. I
[00:12:13] I'm not going to lose my generally
[00:12:15] cynical mofo nature. That's technically
[00:12:18] not a swear. I just want I want want
[00:12:20] that clear. We don't swear on the show.
[00:12:22] Seven words. I know. Um yeah. No, poor
[00:12:24] Charlie. I would subject him to my potty
[00:12:25] mouth and he was such a good sport about
[00:12:27] it.
[00:12:28] >> But no, we are we are on his show now.
[00:12:30] We will be good. Um so I'm not going to
[00:12:33] lose that. But I am, it gave me pause to
[00:12:36] think about not not being too quick to
[00:12:39] condemn people who we like and who
[00:12:42] deserve the benefit of the doubt.
[00:12:43] >> And well, in this moment, I know there's
[00:12:45] a lot of people online. I we hear you.
[00:12:48] Uh that are saying different things and
[00:12:50] that are they're processing their guilt
[00:12:53] in the way that
[00:12:54] >> their grief
[00:12:55] >> their grief their grief. Thank you. And
[00:12:57] they're they're mourning in the way that
[00:12:59] they know how. And it's going to come
[00:13:00] out in a thousand different ways. And we
[00:13:02] are trying to give everybody space to do
[00:13:05] that. Obviously, I personally, Andrew
[00:13:07] Kulvette, would do it one way, but other
[00:13:10] people are going to do it another way.
[00:13:11] And we're we really do have to honor
[00:13:14] Charlie in that way and say Charlie was
[00:13:16] a master of collecting people.
[00:13:18] >> He was. Yep.
[00:13:19] >> And there is a reason for that.
[00:13:21] >> I couldn't agree with you more. I mean,
[00:13:22] I have always tried to not choose a side
[00:13:25] within Republican politics to try to
[00:13:27] keep the door open to everybody. He made
[00:13:29] me look like an amateur at that because
[00:13:31] there wasn't any you look at like
[00:13:33] >> you America Fest, you look at the
[00:13:34] student action summit, you look at any
[00:13:36] event that Charlie put on,
[00:13:38] >> you'd have everybody from all
[00:13:39] ideological wings of the party. He
[00:13:41] managed to hold this coalition together
[00:13:44] >> in a way few can. I mean, few other than
[00:13:46] Donald Trump can.
[00:13:47] >> No, for real. And I think, you know, and
[00:13:50] I've said this before, but I just want
[00:13:52] everybody to keep hearing it, that
[00:13:55] Charlie looked at the virtues, the roles
[00:13:58] that one could play in society. And he
[00:14:02] was borrowing this from the Greeks and
[00:14:04] others, but being a statesman, being a
[00:14:06] philosopher, being a theologian are the
[00:14:09] highest callings. And he told me one
[00:14:11] some of the deepest conversations that
[00:14:12] we had before he died saying, you know,
[00:14:16] everybody can be everybody can open a
[00:14:18] stream and say crazy things, but not
[00:14:20] everybody can be a statesman. Not
[00:14:22] everybody can be a coalition builder.
[00:14:24] It's really hard to build. And he was
[00:14:26] very proud that we had built something
[00:14:29] that he had built something that was is
[00:14:32] an institution that's going to outlive
[00:14:34] him with friends that of of all
[00:14:37] different parts of the party that love
[00:14:40] him and that admire him. And so we had
[00:14:44] I'm not kidding. We talked for hours
[00:14:45] about this on a few different occasions
[00:14:47] about why that was the highest calling.
[00:14:50] And I could tell he was working that out
[00:14:52] with me. and not just working that out,
[00:14:54] but what I've learned just since Charlie
[00:14:57] died is working to be the person. I did
[00:15:00] not realize how much work Charlie put
[00:15:03] into these campus appearances and honing
[00:15:07] his game and making sure he was at the
[00:15:09] at the peak in terms of his ability to
[00:15:11] have these exchanges.
[00:15:12] >> He disciplined his body to do it from he
[00:15:15] was a biohacker. He was religious about
[00:15:18] sleep. He didn't put uh poisons into his
[00:15:21] body. He he really understood that he
[00:15:24] had to get the most out of himself. And
[00:15:26] he found time to do the most bizarre
[00:15:28] things. I I I he
[00:15:31] journaled. He he read books. He listened
[00:15:34] to books on tapes. He found ways to
[00:15:35] maximize every single second.
[00:15:38] >> I think one of the services you and
[00:15:41] Erica could when everyone's feeling
[00:15:44] better provide for his fans would be to
[00:15:46] put together a list of what Charlie
[00:15:47] read. I feel like everybody would want
[00:15:49] to see that. just the best you can
[00:15:51] cobble it together. Just go to his
[00:15:52] bookcase,
[00:15:53] >> go to his, you know, Kindle, whatever.
[00:15:55] Because
[00:15:57] >> I think people would love to know what
[00:15:58] influenced him. He influenced them. What
[00:16:01] influenced him? We We've got news to
[00:16:02] make. We're going to take a quick break.
[00:16:04] We'll come back and we'll make it. Don't
[00:16:05] go away.
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[00:16:25] So, I'm a Canadian. Um, don't hold that
[00:16:28] against me.
[00:16:30] I'm so happy to be here. Pastor Tommy,
[00:16:33] you're an idol for me. Um, in the best
[00:16:35] way. I don't mean in a a negative way.
[00:16:38] Um, and um, it's just a a privilege to
[00:16:41] be here. Um, yeah, I I my dad's a pastor
[00:16:43] in Canada. um he just turned his church
[00:16:46] over after, you know, decades of of
[00:16:48] amazing service. Um
[00:16:51] I went to Bible college in Portland,
[00:16:53] Oregon. Um youth pastored for my dad for
[00:16:55] a couple years. Then I moved to New York
[00:16:57] and I was a part of a church there. Um
[00:16:59] when I was in New York, I had this idea,
[00:17:01] what if we made Bible college cheap or
[00:17:03] affordable rather, but but you know, but
[00:17:06] awesome. And uh and not woke. Um, one of
[00:17:09] the concerns that I've had with a lot of
[00:17:11] Bible colleges is that uh it trends very
[00:17:14] liberal and progressive. Um, and so we
[00:17:18] created this platform called Theosu and
[00:17:21] it's like 10 bucks a month. We have um
[00:17:24] hundreds of of trainers on there that
[00:17:28] teach. We're we're conservative. We're
[00:17:31] unapologetically
[00:17:33] um theologically conservative and we all
[00:17:37] uh believe in the gifts and the power of
[00:17:39] the Holy Spirit. I'm I'm a I'm a die in
[00:17:41] the bull Pentecostal. I'm sorry, but it
[00:17:43] is what it is. You don't have to
[00:17:44] apologize. This is what I love about
[00:17:46] Freedom Night. We have we have five
[00:17:48] point Calvinists and swinging from the
[00:17:49] chandelier Pentecostals and totally we
[00:17:51] all love Jesus here. And Nathan, so why
[00:17:55] is it that the church the last decade
[00:17:57] especially has become so woke? Define
[00:18:00] the term. Where does it come from and
[00:18:02] why is it happening?
[00:18:04] >> Yeah. So defining woke I guess is is is
[00:18:07] a that's like juggling um eight balls.
[00:18:11] But I think um it's not something that's
[00:18:15] happened in the last 10 years. It's
[00:18:17] probably something that's happened in
[00:18:18] the last 150 years. Um, it began with
[00:18:21] the Enlightenment and and people
[00:18:22] questioning um the word the way that
[00:18:25] Satan did and um and then kind of
[00:18:29] twisting it the way that Satan did and
[00:18:31] sort of removing all of its power. You
[00:18:34] know, doubting the miracles um you know,
[00:18:37] you end up with when you start to tear
[00:18:39] the miracles out of the Bible, you end
[00:18:40] up with just the maps. Um and um and the
[00:18:44] maps aren't all that helpful. And uh and
[00:18:47] so uh and then I think there's a major
[00:18:50] shift in the church about 40 years ago,
[00:18:54] maybe 30 years ago with the seeker
[00:18:56] sensitive movement, which I think
[00:18:57] started in a good place where it was we
[00:18:59] want to reach more people. Um but my
[00:19:02] dad's generation, my dad was a
[00:19:04] 17-year-old when he met Jesus, uh
[00:19:06] through a teen challenge, uh coffee
[00:19:08] house, and he was a drugged out hippie.
[00:19:12] Yeah. and and he got uh he got he you
[00:19:16] know filled with the Holy Spirit and he
[00:19:19] went to a Pentecostal church and and he
[00:19:21] got super involved there and his life
[00:19:23] just completely changed and he
[00:19:24] experienced Jesus. You know, it's one
[00:19:26] thing to know about Jesus, it's another
[00:19:28] thing to experience Jesus. And um so the
[00:19:31] the church that my dad was raised in was
[00:19:33] a church where like how do we get God to
[00:19:35] come to church? But it's almost like it
[00:19:38] switched a number of years ago where it
[00:19:40] was how do we get people to come to
[00:19:41] church? And for me, I think that has
[00:19:45] been um a Trojan horse because when
[00:19:48] you're thinking when all you're thinking
[00:19:51] about is how do I please this person in
[00:19:53] the pew and not how do I please the
[00:19:56] Lord, you're going to have problems. Um
[00:19:58] and it's a giant setup, you know, for
[00:20:01] inviting all kinds of bad doctrines.
[00:20:04] >> Yeah. I I would the the best way to
[00:20:05] explain woke to your friends is call
[00:20:08] something unfair or unjust until you
[00:20:10] control it.
[00:20:12] >> So call something racist till you're in
[00:20:13] charge. Right.
[00:20:14] >> So call something sexist till you're in
[00:20:16] charge. Right.
[00:20:17] >> And it's a means to power.
[00:20:19] >> Totally.
[00:20:19] >> So wokeism is a lot of things in
[00:20:22] particular.
[00:20:23] >> One though that you've really been able
[00:20:25] to pinpoint Nathan brilliantly is
[00:20:28] deconstructionism.
[00:20:30] So deconstructionism everybody is
[00:20:32] unfortunately growing in a lot of
[00:20:34] seminaries. Uh it's this idea that we
[00:20:37] need to take apart the essence of the
[00:20:39] word of God that we need to ask did God
[00:20:42] really say that? Is that really what the
[00:20:45] word says? Basically challenging
[00:20:48] biblical authority and scriptural
[00:20:50] inherency using the same analytical
[00:20:52] tools that they use on American history
[00:20:56] that they use on American founding
[00:20:58] documents. So what for example we don't
[00:21:01] like the 1619 project right we don't
[00:21:03] like CRT and we you know we fought
[00:21:05] against that but those same analytical
[00:21:07] tools are now used in Christian schools
[00:21:11] explain more Nathan. Yeah. Yeah, that's
[00:21:13] really good. Um,
[00:21:16] those are really good. It's taking
[00:21:18] notes. Um,
[00:21:21] >> yeah, essentially, uh, you know, Marxism
[00:21:24] kind of comes in and people buy into
[00:21:26] that. Um, you know, there's everything
[00:21:28] is about power and everything is about
[00:21:30] these power plays. And so we have people
[00:21:33] that are that are swimming in this
[00:21:34] stuff. They come into our churches and
[00:21:36] so when they read the Bible, they don't
[00:21:38] they're not reading the Bible
[00:21:52] Welcome back everyone. I'm Megan Kelly
[00:21:54] sitting in on the car the Charlie Kirk
[00:21:55] show and it's my honor to be here out in
[00:21:58] Phoenix, Arizona with his team and we're
[00:22:00] simal casting for our audience on
[00:22:01] SiriusXM as well. Um, I'm here with his
[00:22:04] like top lieutenants and they've been
[00:22:07] through so much over the past week and
[00:22:08] they know Charlie so well. We thought
[00:22:10] it'd be great to bring some of these
[00:22:12] guys in and talk about some of their
[00:22:14] memories of Charlie, which we're going
[00:22:15] to do. This is Blake Nef. Uh, he's What
[00:22:18] will you describe what you did for
[00:22:19] Charlie?
[00:22:19] >> Uh, I was a producer. Uh, you know,
[00:22:22] helped get guests for the show, but also
[00:22:24] especially talking points, researching
[00:22:26] issues, you know, what do we want to say
[00:22:28] about this? And he would come to me,
[00:22:29] Blake, you what do we think about this
[00:22:31] issue? And you know, Charlie is a busy
[00:22:33] guy, so sometimes it was my job to go
[00:22:35] and read the 400page book about
[00:22:36] something so I can give him a 10-page
[00:22:39] digest of it later.
[00:22:40] >> Yeah. Aren't you Didn't he call you his
[00:22:41] secret weapon?
[00:22:43] >> I'm told that. He didn't tell that to my
[00:22:45] >> I'll accept it.
[00:22:46] >> I heard he called you his secret weapon.
[00:22:47] And then there's Mikey McCoy. How you
[00:22:49] doing, Mikey?
[00:22:49] >> Good.
[00:22:50] >> All right. Tell us what you did for
[00:22:51] Charlie.
[00:22:51] >> Yeah, I was his chief of staff. Worked
[00:22:52] for him almost six years. Um, yeah.
[00:22:55] Organized his life.
[00:22:56] >> So, he took you out of your cradle.
[00:22:57] >> He he plucked me out. Saved me from
[00:22:59] going to college.
[00:23:00] >> He did, right?
[00:23:01] He said, "I don't want you to go to
[00:23:02] college. I want you to come work for
[00:23:04] me." So,
[00:23:04] >> best decision I made. Um, yeah. So, with
[00:23:08] him for six years, I his Swiss Army
[00:23:10] knife, if a problem would arise, I'd go
[00:23:12] and solve it for him. Kept his life
[00:23:13] organized and traveled with him
[00:23:15] everywhere. And
[00:23:15] >> it's he was always so complimentary of
[00:23:17] his team, Andrew. I mean, whenever you
[00:23:18] give him a compliment, he would give it
[00:23:19] back to you guys. He never took the
[00:23:21] compliment directly.
[00:23:22] >> Um, and now there's a question about
[00:23:25] who's going to lead the team going
[00:23:26] forward and who's going to lead this
[00:23:27] enormously important organization. Um,
[00:23:30] and I understand you have some news on
[00:23:32] that front.
[00:23:34] >> Yeah. Um, since everything has happened,
[00:23:37] I think the number one question is what
[00:23:39] is going to happen with Turning Point?
[00:23:41] What is going to happen next? And um I'm
[00:23:44] pleased to be able to announce with you
[00:23:46] and I think it's appropriate
[00:23:49] because of who you are and who this
[00:23:51] person is that the Turning Point board
[00:23:53] has unanimously selected Erica Kirk as
[00:23:57] the new CEO and chair of the board. And
[00:24:01] not only is that amazing in and of
[00:24:03] itself, but I can assure you, Megan,
[00:24:05] that Charlie told me personally, and he
[00:24:08] told others, he probably told Mikey,
[00:24:10] that if anything ever happened to him,
[00:24:12] that this is exactly what he wanted.
[00:24:14] >> Wow. I have the chills. It had to be,
[00:24:17] right? I mean, there's just I don't
[00:24:19] think anybody would accept a leader of
[00:24:22] the organization who they didn't feel
[00:24:25] completely understood, Charlie, and
[00:24:27] would be 100% dedicated to fulfilling
[00:24:29] his vision for where this group is
[00:24:31] going.
[00:24:32] >> Well, and let me just add one more
[00:24:33] thing, and I want Mikey to chime in here
[00:24:35] as well, but in the immediate hours
[00:24:40] afterwards, Erica got a call from
[00:24:42] somebody very important. leave that
[00:24:44] vague out of privacy, but she got a call
[00:24:48] from somebody very important and the
[00:24:50] question was,
[00:24:52] "What do you know?" Sort of asking how
[00:24:56] much of what's going on behind the
[00:24:58] scenes and with the relationship, like
[00:25:00] what do you know? And her reply back was
[00:25:03] everything.
[00:25:05] >> I know everything.
[00:25:06] >> That's good.
[00:25:07] You can tell um the
[00:25:11] bits of the two of them, you know, and
[00:25:13] showing like the clips that you guys
[00:25:15] have released show first of all their
[00:25:18] immense intense love story, which has
[00:25:20] been so uplifting to everybody who's
[00:25:22] ever felt love or wanted to in their
[00:25:24] lives.
[00:25:25] >> And we pulled this one that you guys ran
[00:25:26] because it's so touching. It's um S 17
[00:25:30] and it's her when they were engaged
[00:25:32] sitting on this set, I think. Let's
[00:25:35] watch it.
[00:25:36] Yeah.
[00:25:37] >> I'm not going to be able to focus
[00:25:38] sitting this close to him.
[00:25:40] >> Hi.
[00:25:41] >> You ready?
[00:25:46] >> What?
[00:25:48] >> Hello.
[00:25:48] >> Hello.
[00:25:51] I'm not going to be able to focus
[00:25:52] looking right at you.
[00:25:54] >> I'm just going to be staring at you.
[00:25:56] >> Hello.
[00:25:59] >> Wow.
[00:26:00] >> Ready, Terl?
[00:26:01] >> Hold on.
[00:26:03] >> We're rolling.
[00:26:03] >> We're not.
[00:26:04] >> All right. All right, you'll be
[00:26:05] switching. All right, I'll count it
[00:26:07] down.
[00:26:07] >> Wait, I'm kind of nervous, you guys.
[00:26:10] >> She's nervous, which is why we must get
[00:26:12] going.
[00:26:14] >> All right, we ready?
[00:26:15] >> No.
[00:26:15] >> Yes, sir.
[00:26:15] >> Okay. Three, two, one. Hey, everybody.
[00:26:20] Welcome to this episode of the Charlie
[00:26:22] Kirk show.
[00:26:23] >> You're going to have to do it again.
[00:26:24] >> Introduce yourself.
[00:26:25] >> Is that what you're going to say?
[00:26:30] [Music]
[00:26:32] Hey everybody, welcome to this episode
[00:26:35] of the Charlie Kirk show.
[00:26:36] >> You're so
[00:26:38] >> I'm engaged.
[00:26:41] >> Would you like to introduce yourself or
[00:26:43] should I introduce you?
[00:26:46] >> This is important.
[00:26:49] >> How would you like me to start? All
[00:26:52] right, we'll try it again. Hey
[00:26:54] everybody, welcome to this episode of
[00:26:56] the Charlie Kirk Show. Joining me is the
[00:26:58] most special guest,
[00:27:00] my fiance, Erica.
[00:27:03] Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:27:06] >> Wow. I don't know about you guys, but I
[00:27:09] was holding it together just fine up
[00:27:10] until that.
[00:27:12] >> Their love story was something.
[00:27:13] >> Yeah. Um Charlie knew how good Erica
[00:27:16] was. We know how good Erica was. And
[00:27:18] when she made her address the other
[00:27:19] night, right next to this chair, I think
[00:27:21] the whole nation found out how good
[00:27:23] Erica was.
[00:27:24] >> The amount of strength that that took.
[00:27:26] She She's our Khesi. She's our
[00:27:28] retribution. She's our
[00:27:29] >> The memes are already flowing.
[00:27:31] >> Yeah. Right. Well, there's more on her.
[00:27:33] And what's happening next here next?
[00:27:35] Don't go away.
[00:27:37] [Music]
[00:27:48] >> Word of God. They're problematizing the
[00:27:50] Bible. And then we start to realize,
[00:27:53] I'll give you a great example. Um, and
[00:27:56] every deconstructing influencer that I
[00:27:59] follow on Instagram, because I follow
[00:28:01] them to learn, you know, what they're
[00:28:03] saying and stuff, they all basically do
[00:28:06] the same thing. They love hippie Jesus.
[00:28:10] Um, and they hate the Apostle Paul and
[00:28:14] uh, so it's so, you know what I mean?
[00:28:15] >> It's really interest. No, that's Keep
[00:28:17] going.
[00:28:17] >> Yeah. So their version of Jesus and and
[00:28:20] they kind of collapse Jesus too because
[00:28:22] the truth of the matter is that if you
[00:28:23] read Jesus in the book of John, I mean
[00:28:24] he'll cut you. He'll pull the
[00:28:25] switchblade out. You know what I mean?
[00:28:27] He's like he's not always carrying a
[00:28:29] lamb, you know, like he he he, you know,
[00:28:32] he'll pour some
[00:28:33] >> whip literally to Exactly. He'll he'll
[00:28:36] Exactly. He he pours a little crowd
[00:28:37] thinner out every now and then, you
[00:28:39] know, and people walk away. You know,
[00:28:41] the rich young ruler, he's like, you
[00:28:42] know, he's like, "How do I how do Well,
[00:28:44] you you know, money has a control on
[00:28:45] your life and you're going to need to
[00:28:47] get rid of it and he just walks away. I
[00:28:48] mean, today's pastor, if I was a pastor
[00:28:50] today, I'd chase him and invite him to a
[00:28:52] Kingdom Builder's breakfast, you know.
[00:28:54] Um,
[00:28:55] Jesus,
[00:28:57] we're having John Maxwell next Sunday.
[00:28:59] Come, you know. Um, I love John Maxwell,
[00:29:02] by the way. I'm just saying like Jesus
[00:29:05] just let these people walk, you know.
[00:29:07] Um, so um,
[00:29:10] >> so, so my thought is is you can't pit,
[00:29:13] you know, scripture against scripture.
[00:29:15] And Jesus,
[00:29:17] they have these collapsed 2D versions of
[00:29:20] Jesus that that, you know, the Jesus
[00:29:22] that calls you to deny yourself and pick
[00:29:24] up your cross and follow him doesn't
[00:29:25] exist. It's just Jesus that's that's
[00:29:28] this socialist Jesus. Um, you know, and
[00:29:31] and they they they say these every
[00:29:33] everything is through their their their
[00:29:35] their Marxist binaries, you know. So
[00:29:37] Jesus did this for these types of
[00:29:38] people. Jesus did this for these types
[00:29:40] of people. Um, and and then pitting
[00:29:42] Jesus against against the rest of
[00:29:44] scripture. And this is how you know
[00:29:45] Jesus is the savior of the world because
[00:29:47] everyone wants to claim him.
[00:29:50] >> The communists want him. Even the
[00:29:51] Muslims want him,
[00:29:53] >> right?
[00:29:53] >> Everyone wants Jesus.
[00:29:54] >> Yeah.
[00:29:55] >> Mind you, we don't want any of their
[00:29:56] stuff. We don't want Muhammad. Like, we
[00:29:58] don't want Marks.
[00:29:59] >> We're good. We got Jesus.
[00:30:00] >> Yeah.
[00:30:02] >> But they know there's something about
[00:30:03] Jesus that is special, unique,
[00:30:06] extraordinary, transcendent, and divine.
[00:30:08] And that's a very important thing.
[00:30:10] Almost every sinister movement in the
[00:30:12] history of the planet has tried to claim
[00:30:14] Jesus as their own.
[00:30:16] >> Yeah.
[00:30:16] >> And that's because there's something
[00:30:17] there. Now, but Nathan, let's go a step
[00:30:19] deeper. How does deconstructionism
[00:30:22] manifest? How can people start to spot
[00:30:24] it when when either may maybe in a
[00:30:27] Christian podcast or in a sermon? I can
[00:30:29] give an example and then you can. Well,
[00:30:31] they'll start to be like, well, we don't
[00:30:33] really need the Old Testament to
[00:30:35] understand the New Testament. That's a
[00:30:37] that's a phenomenon that might be
[00:30:38] growing. or they'll try to apply modern
[00:30:42] secular humanist worldview
[00:30:45] onto scripture. And if you listen
[00:30:48] carefully, you'll realize that they're
[00:30:49] imposing their own modern values over
[00:30:52] scripture, not submitting to God's God's
[00:30:55] word.
[00:30:55] >> Absolutely.
[00:30:55] >> Yeah. 100%. Like I said, like the first
[00:30:59] thing for me, I when somebody starts to
[00:31:01] pit Jesus against Paul, right there, you
[00:31:04] have a deconstructionist. They all do
[00:31:05] it. It's their favorite thing to do.
[00:31:07] um they like to make Jesus out to be,
[00:31:10] for example, there was this one lady I
[00:31:12] followed on Twitter and she believed
[00:31:14] that Jesus came, you know, to he's an he
[00:31:17] was there to to to liberate people um
[00:31:20] and to free people from oppression. That
[00:31:22] was the big thing. And so I began to
[00:31:24] just ask her more questions, you know,
[00:31:26] like if Jesus was was a liberator and he
[00:31:29] was against oppression, um he didn't do
[00:31:32] a very good job, did he?
[00:31:35] You know what I mean? like and and as I
[00:31:37] began to question her more more about
[00:31:39] this, you know, for example, like uh she
[00:31:42] would make this claim like Jesus
[00:31:43] elevated, you know, women. And I'm like,
[00:31:45] he he certainly did. He certainly
[00:31:47] elevated women. But I just said like,
[00:31:49] well, you know, Judas disappeared. You
[00:31:53] know, that was a great chance for Jesus
[00:31:55] to make women an apostle and he didn't.
[00:31:58] Um so, so don't you have a bone to pick
[00:32:00] with him? And she, yeah, actually I do
[00:32:02] have a bone to pick with him about that.
[00:32:03] You know, so it's like,
[00:32:04] >> but do you see, let me interrupt, that's
[00:32:06] her thinking she's better than Jesus.
[00:32:10] >> And at that moment, the whole game gets
[00:32:12] exposed.
[00:32:13] >> Yeah.
[00:32:13] >> Cuz she's imposing other morality on top
[00:32:16] of the scripture.
[00:32:17] >> And that's the kicker.
[00:32:18] >> Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Demanding that
[00:32:19] Jesus be this oppressor that would that
[00:32:22] would meet her modern criteria. And so,
[00:32:25] you know, I believe that women can
[00:32:26] preach and lead and pastor and all that,
[00:32:28] but I'm just saying though that like
[00:32:30] using using Jesus as your women's lib,
[00:32:34] it he doesn't go far enough for you. If
[00:32:36] he's overthrowing government, he doesn't
[00:32:37] go far enough for you. If he's there to,
[00:32:40] you know, to prioritize the the poor,
[00:32:41] you know, for example, a Marxist will
[00:32:44] always prioritize somebody who is poor
[00:32:47] over somebody who's rich. The rich are
[00:32:48] automatically evil and the poor are
[00:32:50] automatically a problem. Well, Jesus
[00:32:52] doesn't do that. Um, you know, and even
[00:32:54] the book of Proverbs, it's like, you
[00:32:56] know, justice has to be equal. You don't
[00:32:58] give favoritism to the rich. You don't
[00:33:00] give
[00:33:01] >> Exactly. Um, so all that to say, there's
[00:33:04] a lot of ways that you can you can point
[00:33:06] it out, but I think the first
[00:33:16] [Music]
[00:33:22] movement will not be silenced. You're
[00:33:25] listening to the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:33:28] >> Welcome back everyone. And I'm Megan
[00:33:29] Kelly sitting in Charlie's studio with
[00:33:32] some of his dear friends and staffers.
[00:33:34] And uh I don't know you guys, today has
[00:33:37] a different feel for me. I've been
[00:33:38] listening all week with JD, the vice
[00:33:40] president, uh with the guys from Daily
[00:33:42] Wire, who I love, with Glenn, and of
[00:33:44] course, we've been covering everything
[00:33:45] about Charlie since, you know, last week
[00:33:48] on my own show. And just being with you
[00:33:50] all, I feel better. I don't know. Like
[00:33:53] today just seems like we're able to
[00:33:55] laugh a little. Like it's not that
[00:33:57] people aren't in grieving, but it's a
[00:33:59] sign of mental well-being that you can
[00:34:01] find a way to like chuckle here and
[00:34:03] there. You know, I I had my first laugh
[00:34:06] actually the other day when my friend
[00:34:09] reminded me of my favorite exchange with
[00:34:11] Charlie. It was very funny and it was
[00:34:13] actually it it arose out of a time when
[00:34:15] Charlie was in trouble with the left for
[00:34:17] having said something that they thought
[00:34:18] was terrible and I knew wasn't terrible
[00:34:20] and it was part of his courage and
[00:34:22] saying something that everybody believes
[00:34:24] but they would never say it out loud. It
[00:34:26] was about how they were so focused on
[00:34:28] hiring women and black pilots and
[00:34:30] minority pilots and going from 3% to 50,
[00:34:34] right? Was it a 50 that we were going to
[00:34:37] have to worry about who the hell was
[00:34:38] flying the planes because it was like
[00:34:40] what do you mean? There's black people
[00:34:41] are only 13% of the population. How are
[00:34:43] we going to have 50% of them being
[00:34:44] pilots? Anyway, so Charlie said that and
[00:34:47] then everybody said he was a racist,
[00:34:48] which was Oh, sorry. Sorry.
[00:34:50] Which was bull. It happened. Never mind.
[00:34:52] Force I have it. Um, and hold on. Let me
[00:34:55] find it here. He came on my show January
[00:34:57] 2024 and made the following point as
[00:35:00] only Charlie could. S 22.
[00:35:03] >> DEI invites unh wholesome thinking. And
[00:35:07] I said, I don't. And I was saying in the
[00:35:09] clip, that's not who I am. That's not
[00:35:11] what I believe. But what it does is it
[00:35:14] makes us worse versions of of ourselves.
[00:35:16] Megan, that's the whole point of what I
[00:35:18] was saying is that I now look at
[00:35:20] everything through a hyper racialized
[00:35:23] diversity quota lens because of their
[00:35:26] massive insistence to try to hit these
[00:35:29] ridiculous racial hiring quotas. 3 to 4%
[00:35:33] of current pilots are blacks right now.
[00:35:36] 3 to 4%. And now now they want to say
[00:35:39] this is just a hiring class of
[00:35:40] candidates. Are there enough candidates
[00:35:42] to fill the 50% quota? And the other
[00:35:45] question should be asked is why is it a
[00:35:47] problem? Let's just ask the premise. Why
[00:35:49] is it a problem that 81% are white? And
[00:35:52] I just I love the Axios guy. White males
[00:35:55] are dominating the cockpit.
[00:35:57] >> Yeah, those pesky safe flights are
[00:35:59] dominating our society. Megan, you know,
[00:36:01] all those, you know, all those 25 years
[00:36:04] of commercial airliners that have kept
[00:36:07] on, I mean, dominating as as if like the
[00:36:09] white male is like oppressing us with,
[00:36:13] you know, their beautiful landings
[00:36:16] through turbulence and storms,
[00:36:19] >> you know, just because he said that at
[00:36:20] the end. Uh, I think one of a great
[00:36:22] little Charlie thing, every time a plane
[00:36:24] took off, he would say, "Lord bless this
[00:36:26] flight." Right as it began to
[00:36:28] accelerate. And then when I joined, I
[00:36:30] would add Lord Bless this landing
[00:36:31] because I find that a pretty important
[00:36:33] part of
[00:36:33] >> that help. So tell us something about
[00:36:34] Charlie that we don't know.
[00:36:36] >> Oh man.
[00:36:37] >> Who's got one of those? Blake Mikey.
[00:36:40] >> We also have two we have two new guest
[00:36:42] stars here. Want to tell everybody we
[00:36:43] have Daisy Phelps. Uh and we have Emma
[00:36:46] Kate Bartles. And Emma Kate, you did
[00:36:48] Charlie social media. And Daisy, you
[00:36:50] seem like you did everything.
[00:36:51] >> Media director. I just kind of just have
[00:36:53] explained it as podcast media, digital
[00:36:56] media, sponsorship media. whatever
[00:36:58] Charlie said
[00:36:59] >> did for Charlie and now will continue
[00:37:01] doing for Erica and for Turning Point.
[00:37:04] >> We're all in it.
[00:37:04] >> Sorry. Yeah. What were you gonna say?
[00:37:06] >> So, one of the things Mikey and I agreed
[00:37:08] we were really happy he got to do. Uh,
[00:37:10] you know, one of the things about
[00:37:11] Charlie is he was so famous. He had no
[00:37:13] anonymity anymore in America. And he
[00:37:15] actually really liked going out on
[00:37:16] walks. And so, we were actually in Asia
[00:37:20] just the weekend before this happened.
[00:37:23] And we were in Seoul. And I'd been there
[00:37:25] a little bit early. I was going to a
[00:37:27] wedding for a friend of mine and so when
[00:37:29] he got in I was like Charlie the best
[00:37:31] way to understand the city just kind of
[00:37:32] walk around and see how it's different
[00:37:34] and so you know we were there he got in
[00:37:36] on a Friday and so I think uh Saturday
[00:37:39] morning I he just got up extremely early
[00:37:42] 5:30 a.m. and he just started walking
[00:37:43] around the streets of Seoul. And for
[00:37:45] once he got to just wander a city and he
[00:37:48] was just for most of the people there he
[00:37:50] was just kind of this this foreigner
[00:37:51] wandering around their city.
[00:37:52] >> He's tall for American standard. He
[00:37:54] would draw everyone's gaze. He would
[00:37:56] draw everyone's gaze but you know for
[00:37:57] once he could just wander a city as a
[00:37:59] traveler and he really liked to do that.
[00:38:01] >> I didn't realize what a big walker he
[00:38:03] was.
[00:38:03] >> Big walker. My version of tourism is you
[00:38:06] stop at a cafe, you eat, you keep
[00:38:07] walking, you stop, you shop. Charlie's
[00:38:10] is you just walk walk. And it was 90
[00:38:12] degrees, 90% humidity. We're sweating
[00:38:15] through our suits and we're all like,
[00:38:17] "When is he when is he gonna stop
[00:38:19] walking?" Finally, he stopped at a
[00:38:21] coffee shop and we were like, "Okay,
[00:38:22] we're going to get like 10 minutes
[00:38:23] here." No. 2 minutes. 2 minutes and
[00:38:25] we're back out in the heat.
[00:38:27] >> But like no vices, right? Did he even
[00:38:28] get the coffee or did he get the
[00:38:30] midnight tea?
[00:38:31] >> He got the mint tea. Classic mint tea
[00:38:33] with two honeys.
[00:38:35] >> Everyone's been getting now. There are
[00:38:37] so many outside of HQ people leave their
[00:38:39] their men majesty with two honeys.
[00:38:41] >> Did you see that story Daisy of the They
[00:38:43] posted it on X. Um somebody an older
[00:38:47] woman a grandmother went into a
[00:38:48] Starbucks and asked for that and they
[00:38:50] gave it to her and they wrote loser on
[00:38:53] it.
[00:38:54] >> Well, her family unleashed holy you know
[00:38:58] what
[00:38:59] >> on the this Starbucks to the point where
[00:39:01] they were temporarily closed when the
[00:39:03] family went back to find accountability.
[00:39:05] It's amazing though. It's like the story
[00:39:06] is not about some loser who wrote loser,
[00:39:08] >> right? It's about people have had it.
[00:39:11] They're pushing back
[00:39:12] >> Charlie style because the the
[00:39:14] confrontation was actually very polite,
[00:39:16] but it was like you're not going to do
[00:39:17] this to us.
[00:39:18] >> Well, and what's funny is we had just at
[00:39:20] our student action summit in Florida, we
[00:39:23] did approve me wrong, which was kind of
[00:39:25] the first we done at one of our own
[00:39:26] events. So, it was supposed to be more
[00:39:28] light-hearted. Pretty much everyone
[00:39:30] that's there loves Charlie is his
[00:39:32] supporter. And so most of the questions,
[00:39:35] some of them were like about the the
[00:39:37] bears, the cubs, what if he likes
[00:39:39] waffles or pancakes, and then what his
[00:39:41] Starbucks order was because we talked
[00:39:42] about it the other day, but he would
[00:39:44] have these cough drops all the time, and
[00:39:45] people would think they were zen. They
[00:39:47] were just cough drops. He had to have
[00:39:48] them for his throat, and then people
[00:39:50] would ask what his Starbucks drink was,
[00:39:51] and everyone was guessing in the crowd.
[00:39:52] And
[00:39:53] >> Emate posted that video, and people, it
[00:39:55] went viral. They loved knowing what he
[00:39:57] had. They just love real stories of him.
[00:39:58] >> You're incredibly talented. Charlie's
[00:40:00] social media is next level. So, I don't
[00:40:02] know how how you manage that, but
[00:40:03] through the social media right now,
[00:40:05] people are reconnecting with him or
[00:40:07] connecting for the first time in like a
[00:40:08] really unprecedented. I've never seen
[00:40:10] anything like it.
[00:40:11] >> 100%. I saw a TikTok this morning of
[00:40:14] somebody saying they tried to silence
[00:40:16] Charlie, but I hadn't really seen his
[00:40:18] videos or paid attention to them. He was
[00:40:20] like, "Now I'm going down a Charlie Kirk
[00:40:22] rabbit hole. I'm watching every video.
[00:40:23] I'm listening to every podcast. I he was
[00:40:26] like, I can't believe I'm just now
[00:40:28] discovering this, but I feel so blessed
[00:40:29] that there's so much on the internet
[00:40:32] that even after his death, people are
[00:40:34] still getting to know him and love him.
[00:40:36] >> It's one of the few blessings around
[00:40:38] this thing is like all the hours of
[00:40:40] tape.
[00:40:40] >> I think I saw the same one where he was
[00:40:42] like, "You guys made me obsessed with
[00:40:43] Charlie. I didn't even know him until
[00:40:45] this."
[00:40:45] >> Right now, speaking of obsessions, you
[00:40:47] two share one and Charlie tapped into it
[00:40:49] more than once. tell us
[00:40:51] >> just any sort of Taylor Swift news that
[00:40:53] come up, he would just be like, "Explain
[00:40:55] this what's happening." And then when we
[00:40:57] were in the office, when the news broke
[00:40:58] about them getting engaged and Charlie
[00:41:00] was so excited for them, he was like,
[00:41:02] "This is amazing. More people should get
[00:41:04] married and have kids. This is a great
[00:41:06] example for everyone." Like, yes,
[00:41:09] exactly. We're so happy for Taylor.
[00:41:11] >> Well, that's I have a question for about
[00:41:12] Charlie for you guys. So, I mean, he was
[00:41:14] human. There were there were people who
[00:41:16] would irritate him. I know because I
[00:41:18] talked to him about some of those
[00:41:19] people. Would he How would he handle
[00:41:21] that? Like Taylor is one of them. She
[00:41:23] came out and she endorsed Kamla. She
[00:41:25] said it was because of Kamla's LGBTQ
[00:41:27] stance of Tim Wallace actually was I
[00:41:28] mean crazy statements. So how would he
[00:41:31] get past that and then be had like he
[00:41:34] seemed to be able to do do that with
[00:41:35] everybody? I would say for the most part
[00:41:37] instead of him getting irritated by
[00:41:38] people in pop culture, it more so just
[00:41:40] went to the side of him and he wouldn't
[00:41:43] really pay attention to it till we'd be
[00:41:44] like, "Hey, this is I remember one time
[00:41:47] he's he's like, "What is Brat Summer?"
[00:41:48] Cuz everyone's talking about it. It like
[00:41:50] it didn't annoy him cuz he didn't even
[00:41:51] know about it. He was just so focused on
[00:41:53] what he needed to do. Yes.
[00:41:55] >> Somebody
[00:41:57] here is Charlie was a nerd.
[00:41:58] >> Yeah. Yeah. There you go.
[00:41:59] >> Which is fine. You know, I mean, Andrew
[00:42:01] was telling me about how they like
[00:42:03] intentionally made him not nerdy for the
[00:42:05] uh prove me wrong segments, like maybe
[00:42:07] maybe we won't wear the suit, you know,
[00:42:09] maybe we'll wear a t-shirt. And that
[00:42:11] worked, right? He gained a lot of extra
[00:42:12] fans.
[00:42:13] >> He he still was pretty alpha. We got I
[00:42:15] think we can all agree.
[00:42:16] >> Well, it's an interesting combination,
[00:42:17] right? Because he was a brainiac, but he
[00:42:19] was alpha.
[00:42:19] >> Yeah. And he was like the ultimate
[00:42:21] pinnacle example of what being a man is.
[00:42:23] And so being more like Charlie, he he
[00:42:26] never drink alcohol. He go to the gym.
[00:42:28] He always ate healthy. He always had
[00:42:30] that Starbucks order. He always took
[00:42:32] care of his, you know, vocal cords with
[00:42:33] his throat coats and everything.
[00:42:34] >> Disciplined.
[00:42:35] >> He was a disciplined alpha male. And
[00:42:37] when when he had to tap into the nerdy
[00:42:39] side of him to learn something, he would
[00:42:41] tap into
[00:42:41] >> Well, how did he So, he didn't want you
[00:42:43] to cut go to college and you agreed not
[00:42:45] to.
[00:42:45] >> And then did he put you through college?
[00:42:47] >> Yeah. Yeah. I think I learned more under
[00:42:50] Charlie, but I also one of my favorite
[00:42:52] stories of Charlie since we're all just
[00:42:54] kind of going around. literally probably
[00:42:56] my favorites. We were at the RNC and JD
[00:42:58] had just come out on stage and whether
[00:43:00] you guys know it or not, Charlie played
[00:43:01] a role in JD being the vice president.
[00:43:03] And um
[00:43:05] >> he comes out on stage. Charlie was so
[00:43:06] excited. He we snuck on the floor. We
[00:43:09] didn't have a pass. We went to the very
[00:43:10] front. It was just me and Charlie. And
[00:43:12] JD says something about Joe Biden. And
[00:43:14] this was right after the debate. And
[00:43:16] everybody was like, "Joe's got to go.
[00:43:18] Joe's got to go. Joe's got to go." And
[00:43:20] Charlie turns around, looks at me in
[00:43:22] this cinematic way, and he goes,
[00:43:23] "Careful what you wish for." And I was
[00:43:26] like, "Oh my gosh." And then the next I
[00:43:28] think a couple days later, I don't even
[00:43:30] remember Kla Harris's
[00:43:33] >> That was crazy.
[00:43:34] >> Yeah. More fundraising, more battles.
[00:43:37] Yeah. More pain,
[00:43:38] >> right? He Charlie was very funny and he
[00:43:41] had so many funny oneliners where he
[00:43:44] almost he wasn't trying to be funny but
[00:43:46] it was just those quick little ones.
[00:43:49] Like I can remember on Junth this year
[00:43:52] he sent us a video. He said I can't
[00:43:56] remember exactly what he said. He said
[00:43:59] happy Junth. I'm on my way to work. Go
[00:44:02] to work today. Everybody have a good
[00:44:04] day.
[00:44:05] >> You did not take off that national
[00:44:07] holiday. We did not. We were here
[00:44:08] working, but it was just those funny
[00:44:10] little selfie videos he would always
[00:44:13] send in our chats where most of them
[00:44:15] would get posted on TikTok or stories or
[00:44:17] whatever. Um,
[00:44:19] >> like what? Like he would send videos of
[00:44:21] himself to the team.
[00:44:22] >> Just selfie videos just doing little
[00:44:23] quick commentary on whatever was
[00:44:25] happening or just telling a story or
[00:44:28] giving updates. And it was always those
[00:44:30] really short ones that I loved the most
[00:44:32] cuz they were just so funny without
[00:44:34] trying to be funny and people loved
[00:44:35] them.
[00:44:36] >> That's hilarious. So, it wasn't
[00:44:37] necessarily for social media, but it was
[00:44:38] like for all of you.
[00:44:39] >> Yeah. And we we would post them a good
[00:44:41] amount, but it was just, you know, it
[00:44:43] was just kind of a little bit of
[00:44:45] behindthe-scenes Charlie.
[00:44:47] >> Yeah.
[00:44:47] >> That, you know, people loved to see it.
[00:44:50] >> A really fun behind-the-scenes Charlie.
[00:44:52] So, he was a sports fan and the way he
[00:44:54] would consume it had to be very intense
[00:44:55] cuz he doesn't have, you know, other
[00:44:57] than Saturday, you know, which he always
[00:44:59] was strict about taking off, you know,
[00:45:00] he didn't have the time to just lounge
[00:45:03] around watching a game. So the one I'll
[00:45:05] always remember is uh shortly after I
[00:45:08] joined uh you know we had the world cup
[00:45:10] in uh Qatar and he was all invested in
[00:45:12] the US doing well and so he was watching
[00:45:16] the World Cup games on his phone during
[00:45:19] the show and was reacting to things in
[00:45:22] the game during the segments. He'd also
[00:45:24] always have the iPad with him. He always
[00:45:26] had an iPad with him and he was always
[00:45:28] watching sports on the side.
[00:45:29] >> So the Cubs, Erica mentioned the Cubs
[00:45:31] and did she say the Ducks? big duck.
[00:45:33] >> We we have flag that we had in the
[00:45:36] studio for a while.
[00:45:37] >> Why? As
[00:45:38] >> it's where his family went to college
[00:45:39] and he he wanted to inherit a college
[00:45:42] football team and it was his he was so
[00:45:44] passionate.
[00:45:44] >> He would sometimes say, you know, I I
[00:45:46] just want to retire and go coach college
[00:45:48] football. That was what he would say if
[00:45:49] he was frustrated like I should just
[00:45:50] quit and go coach college football.
[00:45:52] >> Same with the Olympics and March
[00:45:54] Madness. We had iPads set up all around
[00:45:56] the studio. So, he would constantly know
[00:45:57] what's happening in the games. Once
[00:45:59] you've been president, uh, coaching a
[00:46:01] sports team seems like a great thing.
[00:46:02] And that was clearly in Charlie's
[00:46:03] future. All right, we're going to take a
[00:46:05] break. We'll be right back. Don't leave.
[00:46:09] [Music]
[00:46:17] [Music]
[00:46:25] surge happening of Christian interest in
[00:46:28] this country. The most popular music now
[00:46:30] for Gen Z is Christian music. Forest
[00:46:33] Frank is incred incredibly popular and
[00:46:35] growing in popularity.
[00:46:37] We are seeing even even more so than the
[00:46:39] rapper Drake, which is very very
[00:46:42] promising. And even if you listen to
[00:46:44] Forest Frank's lyrics, they're actually
[00:46:46] pretty biblically good. I mean, you
[00:46:48] could like try to nitpick, they're way
[00:46:50] better than some of the other Christian
[00:46:51] music sometimes that's gotten popular.
[00:46:53] Sure.
[00:46:53] >> And like legit like very good like
[00:46:55] submitting to God's will and his path
[00:46:57] for really there's something happening
[00:46:59] right now and it's a revival that is
[00:47:03] really surprising a lot of the experts.
[00:47:07] You see, when I was young, and you guys
[00:47:08] remember this 10 years ago, we were told
[00:47:10] that it's going to be a gradual decline
[00:47:13] of Christianity and there's no reversing
[00:47:15] it, right? That it's just this whole
[00:47:17] chapter is going to close. And we saw it
[00:47:20] in the numbers. If you saw the chart,
[00:47:22] man, when Pastor Tommy started, it was,
[00:47:24] you know, 80% of people would go to, you
[00:47:26] know, church regularly and then it was
[00:47:28] 70% and 60%, then it was 55. All of a
[00:47:30] sudden, now this last year, first time
[00:47:33] it's gone up about a point or two in the
[00:47:35] last 25 years. Almost solely because of
[00:47:38] Generation Z, just so we are clear.
[00:47:40] Almost solely because of young people.
[00:47:42] Why is this happening, Nathan?
[00:47:46] I think that it's happening because
[00:47:47] Jesus is good at his job.
[00:47:51] [Applause]
[00:47:54] He said he said that he was going to
[00:47:56] build his church. Um, and I'm going to
[00:47:58] give away my esquetology in a sentence
[00:48:01] or two. I don't believe that Jesus is
[00:48:03] coming back for a weak anemic bride. Um,
[00:48:08] that's that's what I believe. I believe,
[00:48:11] you know, I I don't believe that we're
[00:48:12] going to need to be raptured because we
[00:48:14] suck at our job and Jesus sucks at his.
[00:48:18] I believe that Jesus is coming back for
[00:48:20] a powerhouse, glorified church.
[00:48:24] I believe that.
[00:48:26] I don't think it's it's because we're
[00:48:28] amazing. I think it's because he is.
[00:48:30] He's he said he'll build his church.
[00:48:31] He's going to build an amazing church.
[00:48:32] The gates of hell won't be able to stand
[00:48:35] against us. I mean, and and the picture
[00:48:36] is the church raiding hell, not hell
[00:48:39] coming at us, right? So, um I believe
[00:48:42] that the church is going to be
[00:48:43] glorified. And you know, we're not there
[00:48:44] yet, but we're getting there. I mean,
[00:48:46] she's on the treadmill. She's doing
[00:48:47] keto, you know.
[00:48:51] So, our best days are ahead.
[00:48:54] What what lessons are you seeing of how
[00:48:57] a pastor should conduct himself in the
[00:49:02] sermons, in the messaging of what is
[00:49:04] working and what is problematic as far
[00:49:07] as not just growing the church, but like
[00:49:09] what are you seeing on the landscape?
[00:49:11] Because you deal with a lot of pastors,
[00:49:12] don't you? What are your biggest
[00:49:14] sticking points to try to keep this
[00:49:15] revival going and some of the fault
[00:49:18] lines that should be avoided?
[00:49:20] So I I believe that the the the the
[00:49:23] purpose of the church is to worship God,
[00:49:27] equip the saints, and reach the world in
[00:49:30] that order. And um as a Pentecostal,
[00:49:34] I'll speak from a Pentecostal
[00:49:36] ecclesiology. I believe that like um I
[00:49:41] believe that if we're not priests, we're
[00:49:45] going to be consumers. And one of the
[00:49:48] challenges I think that the American
[00:49:49] church is facing right now is that with
[00:49:51] the advent of the seeker sensitive
[00:49:53] movement where we're thinking about how
[00:49:55] to get people to church, you can, you
[00:49:57] know, you do we do a ton of advertising
[00:49:59] and we essentially attract a lot of
[00:50:01] consumers who are there to to to, you
[00:50:03] know, to eat essentially. And when
[00:50:05] you're a consumer, you know, you're
[00:50:07] problematizing everything, you know, oh,
[00:50:08] they didn't sing Good Father, it's my
[00:50:10] favorite song, Zero Stars, you know. Um,
[00:50:14] but when you're a priest, you come to
[00:50:16] church and you bring the sacrifice of
[00:50:18] praise. And the thing is is when there's
[00:50:21] when when when you put, you know, 1
[00:50:24] Peter 2:5 says that you yourselves as
[00:50:26] spiritual stones are being built up into
[00:50:28] a spiritual house to be a holy
[00:50:29] priesthood to offer spiritual
[00:50:31] sacrifices. What kind? Acceptable ones
[00:50:34] to God. So when you come to church,
[00:50:36] you're not there.
[00:50:52] Welcome back everyone. I'm Megan Kelly.
[00:50:54] I'm sitting here on Charlie Kirk's set
[00:50:56] and what an honor to be hosting his show
[00:50:59] today as we simoc cast the Megan Kelly
[00:51:01] show as well. And I have to tell you,
[00:51:03] like we've been we've been joking in
[00:51:05] between the commercial breaks. Like I
[00:51:07] don't know how it's been here for you
[00:51:08] guys, but this is the first I haven't
[00:51:10] laughed this much in a week.
[00:51:12] >> I don't know. It just feels good to talk
[00:51:13] about him in a more lighthearted way
[00:51:15] because that's who he was. I mean, of
[00:51:17] course, the last thing Charlie would
[00:51:18] have wanted was for us to be all sitting
[00:51:20] around feeling sad, especially while
[00:51:22] talking about him.
[00:51:23] >> So, to me, this feels like an
[00:51:25] appropriate way of handling grief, too.
[00:51:28] Yeah.
[00:51:29] >> Um I'm joined now by two additional uh
[00:51:31] staffers for Charlie. Danny Phillip and
[00:51:34] um
[00:51:36] >> hold on Nate Walker. You're Nate and
[00:51:38] you're Danny.
[00:51:39] >> And uh Katherine Loccastro.
[00:51:41] >> Yeah. And you did all admin. You do all
[00:51:43] the Abbeby stuff. It's from the sound of
[00:51:45] it like admin organiz organizing
[00:51:47] everything.
[00:51:48] >> Yes.
[00:51:48] >> This must be so hard. I How are you
[00:51:51] handling all this?
[00:51:52] >> Yeah. Thank you. I mean, um, it's been
[00:51:54] really special to have the team that we
[00:51:56] have to lean on each other and, um, get
[00:51:58] through it together. I think it
[00:52:00] definitely has been incredibly busy and
[00:52:02] it's kind of interesting to balance the
[00:52:05] grief and the busyiness of everything,
[00:52:07] but um, I think the will to work is
[00:52:10] contagious and I mean, I'm just
[00:52:12] following Mikey's lead and Erica's lead
[00:52:14] and trying to do everything that Charlie
[00:52:16] would have wanted, which is to keep
[00:52:17] going and to just work harder than ever.
[00:52:19] So, um, yeah, definitely busy and
[00:52:22] Business is a blessing.
[00:52:23] >> It is. I mean, it's it's amazing.
[00:52:25] Charlie's life work is keeping everyone
[00:52:26] occupied in a way that I think is good
[00:52:28] and is productive. Um, so Nate, tell us
[00:52:32] what what you did for Charlie.
[00:52:33] >> Yeah, I was Charlie's um executive
[00:52:34] assistant. Um, the day-to-day Charlie,
[00:52:37] make sure he has his food, water,
[00:52:39] clothes, um, all the stuff that he
[00:52:41] doesn't need to think about. I uh would
[00:52:43] do for him. And uh,
[00:52:44] >> clothes. How'd you do clothes?
[00:52:46] >> Yeah, you figure that out. You uh, it
[00:52:48] was difficult. Not Not the easiest job.
[00:52:50] We have the clothing racks in the
[00:52:51] warehouse.
[00:52:52] >> Some days I would just have to guess,
[00:52:54] figure out what is Charlie going to want
[00:52:55] to wear today. And uh sometimes I'd be
[00:52:57] right, sometimes not. But
[00:52:58] >> Well, can I ask you this is um not not
[00:53:00] to take it to a darker place, but we're
[00:53:03] all wearing these freedom shirts, the
[00:53:05] same shirt that Charlie was wearing.
[00:53:06] Yeah.
[00:53:06] >> On the day he was killed.
[00:53:08] >> What is there a story behind this shirt?
[00:53:10] >> Yeah. So, we uh we usually bring a
[00:53:12] couple shirts um to the to the campus
[00:53:15] stops and uh I asked Charlie in the car.
[00:53:17] I go, "Charlie, what what shirt do you
[00:53:18] want to wear?" He goes, "I want to wear
[00:53:19] the freedom shirt." That uh that's not
[00:53:21] controversial.
[00:53:22] >> What were the other options?
[00:53:23] >> Oh, I can't I can't remember.
[00:53:24] >> Like does he did he did he wear like the
[00:53:27] one that my son has with Trump giving
[00:53:29] double middle fingers?
[00:53:30] >> No, no, no. Twice. Not those ones.
[00:53:32] >> It would always say something never
[00:53:34] surrender. Here I am. Freedom. It was he
[00:53:37] he liked his short tagline.
[00:53:39] >> I was actually when you guys asked if I
[00:53:40] would wear this on the air, I was so
[00:53:43] honored and I'm
[00:53:44] >> I feel like I have such a treasure
[00:53:46] having this shirt, you know? I this is
[00:53:48] such a treasure now. Um Danny, what did
[00:53:50] you do for for Charlie?
[00:53:52] >> Um so I did like research and prep for
[00:53:54] him for the show.
[00:53:56] >> Oh wow.
[00:53:56] >> Meetings, events.
[00:53:57] >> That's a heavy lift.
[00:53:58] >> Yeah. Stuff like that
[00:53:59] >> because he was meticulous.
[00:54:01] >> Yeah. And then it would also be like,
[00:54:02] okay, 5 minutes before the event starts,
[00:54:04] I need more on this. So
[00:54:06] >> find more on this specific person or
[00:54:08] something like that. So it was always
[00:54:09] something
[00:54:10] >> like what what did what was he like in
[00:54:12] that in that way? What like what would
[00:54:13] interest him?
[00:54:15] He would be interested in the most
[00:54:16] specific stuff sometimes and then
[00:54:19] sometimes he wouldn't care. Um Mikey
[00:54:21] probably knows about this too, but yeah,
[00:54:24] he would want very specific details on
[00:54:26] very specific things that really no one
[00:54:29] else would think about. Yeah.
[00:54:30] >> Then other times he'd just be like, I'm
[00:54:32] just going to wing it. I got it covered.
[00:54:35] >> And then you'd probably hear that stuff
[00:54:36] actually come up in one of the Q&As's on
[00:54:38] the on the Prove Me Wrong segments like,
[00:54:40] oh, wait a minute. Actually, he needed
[00:54:42] that.
[00:54:43] >> Right. that I mean that's everyone's
[00:54:45] marveling right now on the internet at
[00:54:46] Charlie's depth of knowledge about
[00:54:50] everything. How how can anyone here
[00:54:52] explain that? How
[00:54:54] >> Yeah, he was diligent as we said earlier
[00:54:56] on on the show.
[00:54:57] >> Was he constantly studying?
[00:54:59] >> Constantly studying, reading a book, and
[00:55:01] his time management was impeccable. If
[00:55:03] he didn't have time to read a book, he'd
[00:55:05] have Blake read a book for him, Danny
[00:55:06] read a book for him, and he'd have
[00:55:08] people come out and mentor him and talk
[00:55:10] to him about details. and Frank Turk
[00:55:12] would be here and he would pour into
[00:55:13] Charlie and Charlie be taking, you know,
[00:55:15] meticulous notes and study it and then
[00:55:18] everything was focused towards his
[00:55:19] campus tours. He wanted to give
[00:55:22] knowledge that he could glean from the
[00:55:23] world to all these students across
[00:55:25] America.
[00:55:26] >> That's an interesting question. Was it
[00:55:27] was the were the campus tours the his
[00:55:30] dominant focus or was it the big student
[00:55:32] events or was it the show?
[00:55:34] >> It was it was everything. It was
[00:55:36] everything and how he was able to manage
[00:55:37] it all. I I don't think anybody will
[00:55:39] really know. and he was a he he slept
[00:55:42] and he still was able to do normal human
[00:55:44] things while managing a million tasks.
[00:55:46] >> I can't imagine you trying to get him to
[00:55:49] like sit down with you and go over
[00:55:50] logistics when he is this, you know,
[00:55:52] busy and and important.
[00:55:54] >> Corelling him and Mikey was definitely a
[00:55:56] challenge at times, but sometimes I
[00:55:58] would say, I just need 30 seconds. I
[00:56:00] have a few things I need to go over. And
[00:56:01] so,
[00:56:01] >> would you just send him a video on the
[00:56:02] group chat?
[00:56:04] >> I need you.
[00:56:05] >> Yeah, that would have been helpful. But
[00:56:06] you just needed a little bit of time to
[00:56:08] nail things down and we had a good
[00:56:10] routine. So,
[00:56:10] >> you know, you seem like somebody who can
[00:56:12] handle that and not everybody has those
[00:56:13] executive management skills. So, just
[00:56:15] meeting all of you, it's very clear you
[00:56:16] had a very clear eye for talent and
[00:56:19] everyone here is so young. I just feel
[00:56:21] I'm so sorry that you've had such a
[00:56:22] tragedy at such a young point in your
[00:56:24] lives. We're going to be right back.
[00:56:27] [Music]
[00:56:50] acceptable sacrifice has a divine
[00:56:52] response. Every single time we give God
[00:56:55] what he's asked for, he always shows up
[00:56:58] in fire. Right? It's amazing. So, that
[00:57:02] to me is what gets me excited about the
[00:57:04] church. And I'm seeing that shift and
[00:57:05] and and I, you know, us Pentecostals, I
[00:57:08] mean, we're we're all about the presence
[00:57:09] of God, but I believe that evangelicals
[00:57:11] are. I believe that Catholics are. And I
[00:57:13] believe that there's a shift that's
[00:57:15] going from how, you know, the cons
[00:57:16] drawing consumers to let's teach people
[00:57:19] to be priests. When people come in,
[00:57:21] they're they're going to experience the
[00:57:23] byproduct, which is the presence of God.
[00:57:25] It'll wreck people. People don't need to
[00:57:27] come to church to get David Gogggins.
[00:57:29] They can get that on Instagram, you
[00:57:30] know, like they don't need TED talks.
[00:57:32] They can already get that. What people
[00:57:34] need is encounter with Jesus Christ, you
[00:57:37] know, and the power of the Holy Spirit.
[00:57:38] >> Amen. What So I I I totally agree. I
[00:57:43] actually think paradoxically that's why
[00:57:45] the Catholic Church is growing because
[00:57:47] in the Catholic own approach and I have
[00:57:49] such great respect for Catholics. I know
[00:57:51] we have some in the audience here and I
[00:57:53] want us to actually dive into our
[00:57:55] agreements, not our dis disagreements,
[00:57:57] whatever that we all we all know those.
[00:57:59] I actually think though that the reason
[00:58:00] why Catholicism is growing for young
[00:58:02] people especially is that there is an
[00:58:04] emphasis on the holiness and the
[00:58:06] experience with God and there is an an
[00:58:09] an emphasis on the aesthetically and the
[00:58:11] do you agree with that?
[00:58:12] >> I'll tell you right now I think the most
[00:58:15] beautiful thing about the Catholic
[00:58:16] Church is the mass and rather the
[00:58:18] Eucharist. So, Catholics don't go to
[00:58:21] mass to to get uh you know a TED talk.
[00:58:24] They go there to encounter Jesus through
[00:58:26] communion. I think that's beautiful. Um
[00:58:29] Baptists, for example, they go to church
[00:58:32] to encounter Christ through the preached
[00:58:34] word. John Piper says that the primary
[00:58:36] way of gazing upon Christ is through his
[00:58:38] words. I love that. So, when we're
[00:58:40] emphasizing how do we encounter God,
[00:58:43] that's when the church is winning. Um
[00:58:44] and I know that we do that in different
[00:58:46] ways. Um but but I think that that that
[00:58:49] Catholics
[00:58:50] >> what are what are some of the other
[00:58:51] ways? Worship obviously singing, prayer,
[00:58:54] repentance.
[00:58:55] >> Absolutely. Yeah. Like exactly. So uh
[00:58:58] prayer, um gathering, uh the preaching
[00:59:00] of the word, communion, uh praise,
[00:59:03] giving your tithes and your offerings. I
[00:59:05] mean that's literally you being the
[00:59:06] priest, your offering. Lord, this is a
[00:59:08] symbol of my life and I'm giving it to
[00:59:10] you in obedience to you. And I know that
[00:59:12] when I do this, you show up in my life.
[00:59:14] fires coming on the altar of my life
[00:59:16] when I offer this to you. It's like
[00:59:17] really holy. It's really really amazing.
[00:59:19] So, um all those different ways and the
[00:59:21] church is meant to facilitate worship
[00:59:23] and that's I think what we're going to
[00:59:25] continue to do.
[00:59:26] >> What are on the horizon some of the
[00:59:27] great threats to the church? We
[00:59:29] obviously identify deconstructionism,
[00:59:30] progressivism, wokeism. Do you think
[00:59:32] they've grown in the last couple of
[00:59:33] years or are they decreasing in number?
[00:59:35] I I feel as if that's becoming less and
[00:59:38] less fashionable. I could name at least
[00:59:40] 10 major pastors in the last couple of
[00:59:42] years that are coming coming in our
[00:59:45] direction. I mean, we here at Freedom
[00:59:46] Night thanks to Dream City Church. We've
[00:59:48] been doing this since 2021. I mean, we
[00:59:50] were very early adopters, but Nathan,
[00:59:54] are are they increasing? Are they
[00:59:55] decreasing? Like, give us a little
[00:59:56] status report.
[00:59:57] >> Is deconstruction increasing? Is that
[00:59:59] >> or progressivism in the church?
[01:00:02] >> Yeah, look, I I think that there's
[01:00:04] obviously a battle. Um, and I think that
[01:00:07] there's been a battle since the church's
[01:00:09] inception, you know, like there was
[01:00:11] there were external and internal
[01:00:13] threats. Um, we had we were fighting
[01:00:16] heresies for the first four 500 years of
[01:00:18] church history.nosticism and and and
[01:00:21] mysticism.
[01:00:22] >> Absolutely. Exactly. So, um I think that
[01:00:25] there's we're always going to have
[01:00:26] these, you know, Jesus even said like
[01:00:29] there's going to be um you know, people
[01:00:32] will have itching ears and and there's
[01:00:36] when Paul's talking to Timothy, he's
[01:00:38] just saying, "Check your doctrine. Check
[01:00:39] your doctrine. Check your doctrine.
[01:00:40] Check your doctrine." So, uh there's
[01:00:42] there's all kinds of people that are
[01:00:44] going to be um they're going to have
[01:00:46] mythologies and philosophies and they're
[01:00:48] going to be trying to take power, etc.
[01:00:50] So, I think that we're always going to
[01:00:51] be dealing with these types of of
[01:00:55] existential problems, theological
[01:00:57] problems, and um it's it's it is what it
[01:01:00] is. There's going to be people that are
[01:01:01] going to claim to be the Messiah, and
[01:01:02] they're going to be, you know, claiming
[01:01:04] to, you know, like the apostles, and
[01:01:06] they're going to be uh you know, when
[01:01:08] Paul is writing to defend his
[01:01:10] apostilhip, there's going to be people
[01:01:11] that are going to be claim claim claim
[01:01:13] to be this and claim to be that. So, I
[01:01:16] don't think that it's deconstruction
[01:01:18] isn't alarming. is on trend for what's
[01:01:21] been happening the last 2,000 years.
[01:01:22] That's what I would just say.
[01:01:23] >> Let's close with a threat that I talk a
[01:01:26] lot about that I think the church needs
[01:01:27] to more educate ourselves. I'll put I'll
[01:01:30] use the third person singular here like
[01:01:33] the the plural. Um that we need to
[01:01:35] educate ourselves better and that is
[01:01:37] Islam.
[01:01:38] >> And I I don't think we're quite equipped
[01:01:40] and understand the spiritual
[01:01:42] ramifications here. I mean if you go
[01:01:45] online everyone wants to talk about
[01:01:46] Israel all the time. Fine. But like,
[01:01:49] okay, why don't we talk about Islam?
[01:01:50] Actually, the religion of a billion
[01:01:52] people that many of whom are taking over
[01:01:54] the entire European continent and we're
[01:01:56] about to have a Muslim mayor of New York
[01:01:59] City and we have no idea what they
[01:02:01] believe or what it is. And so, should
[01:02:04] Christians care about this, Nathan? I
[01:02:06] mean, some pastors say, "Well, they
[01:02:08] believe different stuff than we
[01:02:10] believe." And how should we think about
[01:02:12] Islam?
[01:02:14] >> Yeah. I mean, I think that it would you
[01:02:18] should read how the first thousand years
[01:02:21] of pastors and thinkers in the in the
[01:02:23] church like the Petristics, how they
[01:02:25] thought about Islam. It's actually
[01:02:27] pretty shocking because Islam hasn't
[01:02:29] really changed all that much. It's still
[01:02:32] very militant. It's it's I think that u
[01:02:36] that dismissing it as just another
[01:02:38] religion is naive. It is it is
[01:02:41] incredibly politically and ideologically
[01:02:43] and militantly driven um in a way that
[01:02:46] like for example Buddhism is just not um
[01:02:49] so not all religions are the same. So
[01:02:51] it's naive to kind of classify it's a
[01:02:54] religion and it just goes in this
[01:02:55] clause. It's like Islam is not like
[01:02:57] that. It does not behave like that.
[01:02:59] >> Is it a religion?
[01:03:01] >> I would say that it would be naive to
[01:03:03] just to compare it to Buddhism to
[01:03:05] compare it to Jehovah's Witnesses. I
[01:03:07] think it is a political ideology that
[01:03:10] it's it's it's a religion political
[01:03:12] ideology that is inseparable from those
[01:03:14] two things and it's militant
[01:03:16] >> and and this is the this is the most
[01:03:17] important thing we as Christians we are
[01:03:20] able to separate our church and state in
[01:03:23] fact sometimes we want more Christians
[01:03:25] to get involved in the state but there
[01:03:27] is no mosque and state separation in
[01:03:29] Islam
[01:03:30] >> correct
[01:03:30] >> it does not exist
[01:03:31] >> that teaching has never existed and
[01:03:34] therefore this is why so many Muslims
[01:03:36] run for political office because not
[01:03:39] only are they interested, they're
[01:03:40] commanded to try to institute what they
[01:03:42] call the ummah, which is the covering of
[01:03:44] the earth.
[01:03:45] >> Correct.
[01:03:46] >> And there is a Islamic illiteracy that
[01:03:49] we have in the west.
[01:03:50] >> And honestly, shame on us as Christians
[01:03:52] for not talking about this more
[01:03:54] >> and at the core this is an immigration
[01:03:56] issue.
[01:03:56] >> Yeah.
[01:03:56] >> But Nathan, I'm told by Christians, we
[01:03:58] must open up our borders to all people
[01:04:00] at all times, no matter what because
[01:04:02] that's what Jesus would do,
[01:04:03] >> right? Yeah. So, I mean, yeah. Where did
[01:04:06] Jesus say that?
[01:04:08] Right.
[01:04:09] That's you know
[01:04:12] [Applause]
[01:04:15] I I think there's there's this
[01:04:18] misunderstanding about uh who like
[01:04:23] neighbors and families, you know. So um
[01:04:27] for example, like I love Japan.
[01:04:31] I love how Japanese it is. I love how
[01:04:35] foreign it is, you know, like they do
[01:04:37] their own thing over there and it's
[01:04:40] wonderful. If you ever been there, it's
[01:04:41] just like you're just it's it's like
[01:04:43] it's incredible, you know, like their
[01:04:45] food and the way that they organize
[01:04:46] themselves on elevators and escalators
[01:04:49] and you know, they're just there. So I
[01:04:52] would never want to live there, but I
[01:04:54] love visiting there and I appreciate
[01:04:57] their culture and the cultural
[01:04:58] differences, but I don't want to be
[01:05:01] Japanese. I don't want to live in Japan.
[01:05:02] Does that make sense? So, I think that
[01:05:04] one of the issues is that people think
[01:05:06] that if you don't want to be it, you
[01:05:08] hate it. And and that that's one of the
[01:05:11] issues is that people are like, well,
[01:05:12] America needs to be everything. It's
[01:05:14] like, what if America is American? You
[01:05:16] know, like what? That's okay. It's why
[01:05:18] do Americans have to hate their own
[01:05:20] culture and destroy their own culture?
[01:05:23] See, multi I'm Canadian and I understand
[01:05:24] what multiculturalism is. And
[01:05:26] multiculturalism is the death of the
[01:05:28] dominant culture. That's exactly what it
[01:05:29] is.
[01:05:30] >> Exactly. Like I don't recognize my
[01:05:32] hometown anymore. In fact, when I go
[01:05:33] back to Canada, I don't Do you know what
[01:05:35] it means to be Canadian? Nothing. It
[01:05:38] means nothing to be a Canadian now.
[01:05:40] Justin Trudeau, our our the you know,
[01:05:42] the clown that was in there for 10 years
[01:05:44] that destroyed my country. Um he called
[01:05:48] Canada the first postnational
[01:05:50] country. Meaning that the only thing
[01:05:52] that we have in common is that we have
[01:05:54] nothing in common. That's what it mean.
[01:05:56] That's that's
[01:05:57] >> so good. And it just destroys the social
[01:06:00] fabric. Um you think that people would
[01:06:02] get along but it's the exact opposite.
[01:06:04] They don't get along. People don't work
[01:06:06] together. People are the Hindus are
[01:06:08] hating the Sikhs. The Sikhs are hating
[01:06:09] the Muslims. The Muslim. It is just
[01:06:11] absolute and total chaos right now in my
[01:06:13] country. Nobody wants to work together.
[01:06:14] So,
[01:06:18] [Music]
[01:06:32] [Music]
[01:06:37] welcome back everyone to the Charlie
[01:06:38] Kirk show. I'm Megan Kelly sitting in
[01:06:40] for Charlie and simal casting now on
[01:06:42] SiriusXM on the Megan Kelly show as well
[01:06:45] which is perfect for me. That's perfect.
[01:06:47] The two of us kind of holding hands.
[01:06:48] >> Yeah.
[01:06:49] >> And doing the shows together which is
[01:06:50] what we did when he was with us.
[01:06:52] >> Mikey, let me ask you because
[01:06:54] >> there are a lot of questions in
[01:06:56] conservative circles now about what's
[01:06:57] going to happen with the organization
[01:06:58] because Turning Point's become very
[01:07:00] important to a lot of people.
[01:07:01] >> Yeah.
[01:07:01] >> And
[01:07:03] >> I I hope there are no turf wars. I hope
[01:07:06] there's nothing like no it has to go
[01:07:07] this way. No, it has to go that way. I
[01:07:08] think, you know, choosing Erica to be
[01:07:10] Charlie's successor is the perfect way
[01:07:12] to stop all that. Yeah.
[01:07:13] >> Just to keep it consistent with
[01:07:14] Charlie's vision,
[01:07:15] >> but what are your thoughts on how you
[01:07:18] keep it consistent with what Charlie
[01:07:20] wanted and keep it going?
[01:07:22] >> Yeah.
[01:07:22] >> Without him?
[01:07:23] >> Yeah. Um Erica said it the other night.
[01:07:25] Um he was a he was an excellent person
[01:07:29] to pick people. He loved picking people
[01:07:30] and choosing talent, finding talent, and
[01:07:33] acquiring talent. and he would want to
[01:07:35] pluck somebody and bring them on the
[01:07:36] team if they were good at a job. Um, but
[01:07:39] I was telling you earlier with Erica
[01:07:42] that for the first time I got a little
[01:07:45] emotional two days ago because for the
[01:07:47] first time when I was talking to her
[01:07:48] about where the organization's going,
[01:07:50] how we're going to continue Charlie's
[01:07:51] legacy, how we're going to really 10x
[01:07:53] this organization to become what what
[01:07:56] Charlie inevitably wanted it to become.
[01:07:59] I I hearing her thoughts and the way she
[01:08:02] was talking and breaking things down. I
[01:08:03] felt like for the first time I was
[01:08:04] speaking to Charlie for the first time
[01:08:06] again. Um and he told her everything. He
[01:08:09] private conversations, everything. He
[01:08:11] was shared with Erica. She knew
[01:08:13] everything. And from the way she texts
[01:08:15] to the way she talks and I I can
[01:08:18] confidently say that I feel like it's
[01:08:20] Charlie still leading this organization.
[01:08:22] >> And we just announced it that Erica is
[01:08:24] going to be the chief executive officer
[01:08:26] of Turning Point USA. And for the
[01:08:29] operators, for the people that helped
[01:08:30] run this organization with Charlie, we
[01:08:32] know we know exactly what he wanted in
[01:08:34] his meetings, what he his vision was,
[01:08:36] his push and the event coming on Sunday,
[01:08:38] we all just keep sending quotes to each
[01:08:40] other, more people, make it bigger. And
[01:08:43] it's we it's he's ingrained in us. He's
[01:08:45] still there. And it's just like every
[01:08:48] difficult situation, every hard trial
[01:08:50] that comes up, it's almost like we have
[01:08:52] a blueprint that Charlie's just embedded
[01:08:55] into our minds. Can the the event on
[01:08:57] Sunday honoring Charlie's life,
[01:09:00] >> it's going to have heads of state. I
[01:09:02] mean, every administration official like
[01:09:04] that place is going to be in lockdown,
[01:09:06] I'm sure, first of all. But have you
[01:09:07] been overwhelmed with the number of
[01:09:08] responses?
[01:09:09] >> It It's touching the amount of
[01:09:11] responses, not just with the event, but
[01:09:13] also outside of the event, the amount of
[01:09:15] people messaging me, everybody on this
[01:09:17] team, the organization, saying for the
[01:09:20] first time in seven years, 10 years
[01:09:21] ever, this is their first time going
[01:09:23] back to church. and that they sat in
[01:09:25] that empty seat that Charlie left in the
[01:09:27] sanctuary and they turned to their
[01:09:28] neighbor and they said, "Charlie brought
[01:09:30] me here." And they and the other
[01:09:31] messages said, "For every Sunday after
[01:09:32] this, I'll go back for God, but for this
[01:09:34] Sunday, I'm going for Charlie Kirk."
[01:09:35] >> Oh, I love that.
[01:09:36] >> And the the overpouring
[01:09:39] of responses outside of this event, it's
[01:09:41] beautiful. But the event specifically,
[01:09:43] you're right. Every head there's heads
[01:09:45] of state coming. The entire White House
[01:09:48] essentially is coming. Yeah.
[01:09:49] >> It's beautiful. And I I believe when Air
[01:09:52] Force One lands, there's going to be a
[01:09:53] lot of people that you guys will see at
[01:09:55] this event. It's going to be very
[01:09:56] beautiful.
[01:09:56] >> Have you guys been I mean, you knew
[01:09:57] Charlie so well. You knew him on a date.
[01:09:59] You were getting his clothes, right? And
[01:10:00] his his food.
[01:10:01] >> Have you been surprised at like the
[01:10:04] worldwide tributes to him, the massive
[01:10:07] impact that his loss has had?
[01:10:10] >> Yeah, for sure. Um you you when you're
[01:10:13] with Charlie every day, he's not Charlie
[01:10:15] Kirk. He's just Charlie. Um and then you
[01:10:18] know something like this happens and it
[01:10:20] just his reach was so big. Um it was
[01:10:23] bigger than anything I think we ever
[01:10:25] even realized. Um me personally
[01:10:27] especially and
[01:10:28] >> he was just so
[01:10:29] >> you think you're working for a company
[01:10:30] not necessarily a cause and then you
[01:10:32] realize
[01:10:33] >> it's something far more profound.
[01:10:34] >> It's way bigger than um any of us and
[01:10:36] it's bigger than Charlie. It's uh yeah
[01:10:39] it's really cool.
[01:10:40] >> Can I ask you guys like were you how did
[01:10:42] you get the news last week? Were you
[01:10:44] here? Yeah, we were. Me and Danny were
[01:10:46] both there.
[01:10:47] >> You were Oh, you were there on site with
[01:10:48] him?
[01:10:48] >> Uh, on site? Yeah.
[01:10:50] >> Gosh, Danny.
[01:10:52] >> I mean,
[01:10:54] did you worry about security in advance
[01:10:56] of these events? Because I know Charlie,
[01:10:58] he said openly he'd been getting death
[01:10:59] threats.
[01:11:00] >> Yeah, we always would worry. Um, but it
[01:11:03] wasn't really our job to worry. We were
[01:11:05] just kind of more so focused on uh doing
[01:11:07] what we had to for the team and
[01:11:09] whoever's job that was. You know,
[01:11:11] >> we trusted them and everything and we
[01:11:12] still do. um his team did great. Um so
[01:11:16] yeah, it was never really we were more
[01:11:18] so just focused on doing what we needed
[01:11:19] to uh for Charlie.
[01:11:21] >> I have to imagine there was a level of
[01:11:23] disbelief on your part too, just like
[01:11:24] there was for those of us who weren't
[01:11:26] there who were watching on TV.
[01:11:27] >> Yeah. Yeah. Just um just kind of state
[01:11:31] of shock at first. Yeah. Um
[01:11:34] >> has it been helpful to come back to the
[01:11:35] office and like be with each other?
[01:11:37] >> Yeah, absolutely. I think leaning on
[01:11:39] each other has been the most important
[01:11:41] thing through all of it. Um, it's sort
[01:11:44] of an unspeakable feeling that I think
[01:11:46] we're all experiencing, but to be able
[01:11:48] to go through it together has been very,
[01:11:51] very helpful.
[01:11:51] >> Do you like I I personally have been
[01:11:55] surprised at how many people feel this
[01:11:57] personally. I mean, people openly
[01:11:59] weeping who never met Charlie and
[01:12:01] actually who weren't even necessarily
[01:12:03] fans. Not detractors, but not fans
[01:12:05] either. And it's, I think, because of
[01:12:07] the content that's being pushed out that
[01:12:09] they're getting to know him. Of course,
[01:12:11] the violence with which he was taken,
[01:12:12] but also just the content. Do you have
[01:12:15] somebody going through hours and hours
[01:12:16] of Charlie tape and like refreshing it
[01:12:18] for us? Like, how are we getting all
[01:12:19] this new content? What feels like new?
[01:12:21] >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Charlie would bank
[01:12:23] hours of content. He did four hours a
[01:12:25] day and then on top of that, he was
[01:12:27] doing five speeches a week.
[01:12:29] >> He was
[01:12:29] >> he we were traveling like we were
[01:12:31] supposed to be in Colorado State today.
[01:12:33] We're supposed to be in Nashville
[01:12:34] tomorrow. He would just bank these these
[01:12:36] speeches and content. We didn't even
[01:12:38] post all of them. We have so many
[01:12:39] speeches that haven't even been posted
[01:12:40] yet.
[01:12:40] >> Who was he speaking to?
[01:12:42] >> It would groups. On Friday, he was
[01:12:44] supposed to be speaking at a church
[01:12:45] event. Today, he was supposed to be
[01:12:47] speaking to students at Colorado State.
[01:12:48] And wow, when we were in Asia, he was
[01:12:50] speaking to a random group of Japanese
[01:12:53] people. And at the American in Korea,
[01:12:57] um, but to to their point,
[01:13:00] security-wise, I don't think it matters
[01:13:03] what the security was. Nothing was gonna
[01:13:05] stop Charlie from giving his message
[01:13:07] where it needed to be.
[01:13:09] >> And
[01:13:10] he died too soon, but he was always
[01:13:13] ready to die. Everything he did, he
[01:13:16] poured into it 100%. He was always
[01:13:18] dedicated to his work, dedicated to his
[01:13:20] message. He knew the truth was the
[01:13:22] truth. He would always say, "North is
[01:13:24] north, no matter what. It's there's
[01:13:26] objective truths that need to be shared
[01:13:27] to the world." And he was ready to share
[01:13:29] those. when I saw, you know, found out
[01:13:32] that he'd been wearing a bulletproof
[01:13:34] vest, I thought to myself, oh my god,
[01:13:37] like I didn't I didn't even know that it
[01:13:39] had gotten that bad.
[01:13:40] >> Yeah.
[01:13:41] >> Like in terms of the death threats,
[01:13:42] because we all sadly do get death
[01:13:43] threats in this in the public eye.
[01:13:45] >> Yeah.
[01:13:46] >> Um had it escalated prior to
[01:13:49] >> last week? We've always gotten threats
[01:13:51] before. Um nobody's ever really acted on
[01:13:55] them like in this way, but we have
[01:13:57] received stuff in the past. It's so
[01:13:59] sick, right? It's like
[01:14:00] >> that this should be the cost for saying
[01:14:03] what you believe.
[01:14:04] >> Truth.
[01:14:05] >> Now, everybody wants to know what
[01:14:06] Charlie would think about everything.
[01:14:08] You know, I'm talking to a lot of
[01:14:09] people. They say, "Well, what would
[01:14:10] Charlie think about this? What would
[01:14:11] Charlie think about that?" And I tried
[01:14:12] desperately not to answer those
[01:14:13] questions because it's just not up to me
[01:14:14] to say that kind of thing. Feel like
[01:14:16] Erica can say that and nobody else can
[01:14:18] say that.
[01:14:18] >> Exactly.
[01:14:19] >> Um, but I do wonder I feel like Charlie
[01:14:23] would might be happy about the Jimmy
[01:14:25] Kimmel situation.
[01:14:26] >> He put out a tweet. I literally I posted
[01:14:29] on my story today. Jimmy Kimmel isn't
[01:14:31] funny was a tweet that he posted way
[01:14:34] back when.
[01:14:34] >> He was right. He's not he hasn't been
[01:14:37] funny for a long time. As President
[01:14:40] Trump would say, yeah,
[01:14:41] >> Rosy's a loser. She's been a loser for a
[01:14:43] long time. As if it's like a, you know,
[01:14:45] it's quantifiable exactly when she
[01:14:46] became a loser. And same with Jimmy
[01:14:48] Kimmel. He was once funny and he's not
[01:14:50] anymore.
[01:14:50] >> Not anymore.
[01:14:51] >> And like President Trump with the anti
[01:14:53] with the with the Antifa declaration
[01:14:55] today.
[01:14:55] >> I thought that was amazing. Like that
[01:14:57] was a group that Charlie called a lot of
[01:14:58] attention to
[01:15:00] >> and obviously may have had some
[01:15:02] connection to what happened last week.
[01:15:04] But
[01:15:04] >> what what do you make of the the Kimmel
[01:15:06] termination? It's indefinite suspension.
[01:15:09] >> Sweet justice. I think we were all
[01:15:11] waiting for it. It's it's a shame. I
[01:15:13] mean Charlie's seeing it and he's loving
[01:15:15] it, but to only see his reaction to it
[01:15:17] would have been priceless for all of us
[01:15:19] who work so closely with him. But
[01:15:21] >> yeah, we love it. Nobody thinks Jimmy
[01:15:23] Kimmel's funny anymore. No. So,
[01:15:25] >> and the ner I mean the nerve of that guy
[01:15:27] to suggest that that this guy was was
[01:15:29] MAGA.
[01:15:30] >> I know like disgusting.
[01:15:31] >> There was no way he was getting away
[01:15:32] with that. And we're going to talk more
[01:15:34] about that when Walter Kern joins me
[01:15:36] next. He's got lots of thoughts. You
[01:15:38] guys, I think I speak for everyone when
[01:15:39] I say we are all sending you all of our
[01:15:41] love, all of our support. I am of course
[01:15:44] willing to do whatever whatever it takes
[01:15:46] to keep Turning Point going forward in
[01:15:48] as robustly and strongly as ever. And I
[01:15:50] know everybody out there is feeling it
[01:15:52] in terms of donations. you guys just
[01:15:53] keep telling us what you need and we'll
[01:15:54] all be there.
[01:15:55] >> That's great.
[01:15:56] >> Much love to you.
[01:15:57] >> Thank you.
[01:15:58] >> Uh okay, don't go away because there is
[01:15:59] a lot to talk about in the actual news
[01:16:02] and we will talk about Jimmy Kimmel and
[01:16:04] President Obama's whining. Stay tuned.
[01:16:09] [Music]
[01:16:24] compatible and that's okay.
[01:16:26] >> Isn't it interesting? There are 50 plus
[01:16:28] Muslim majority countries and yet
[01:16:30] Muslims so badly want to come here and
[01:16:31] turn this into another one. It's because
[01:16:33] it is a conquering ideology that
[01:16:35] masquerades itself as a religion.
[01:16:37] >> Correct.
[01:16:38] >> And and that needs to be repeatedly
[01:16:40] said.
[01:16:40] >> Yeah.
[01:16:41] >> And again, this is not about hating
[01:16:45] individual Muslims. Literally my primary
[01:16:47] care doctor here in Arizona, Zudi
[01:16:49] Jasser, like the sweetest guy ever, is a
[01:16:51] practicing Muslim who's trying to
[01:16:52] dradicalize Islam. We all know
[01:16:54] individual Muslims who we care for, we
[01:16:56] minister to. We're talking about an
[01:16:58] ideology,
[01:16:59] >> right?
[01:16:59] >> And you must be able to separate an
[01:17:01] ideology from precious individuals that
[01:17:03] we care about because they're always
[01:17:04] going to try to conflate those two.
[01:17:06] Yeah.
[01:17:06] >> Right. We should care for those
[01:17:07] individuals and we should minister to
[01:17:09] them and we should have great
[01:17:10] relationships and be neighborly and be
[01:17:12] Christlike to them and we can see really
[01:17:14] goodness in a lot of those people. Yeah.
[01:17:15] But don't tell me that Minneapolis is
[01:17:17] going in the right direction,
[01:17:18] >> right?
[01:17:19] >> Like, I'm sorry. That's that's that's
[01:17:20] that's not true. Don't tell me that New
[01:17:22] York City is going in the right
[01:17:23] direction, right? That they're about to
[01:17:25] have a Muslim Marxist mayor in America's
[01:17:28] largest city.
[01:17:29] >> And we as Christians, and we'll kind of
[01:17:32] close on this, Nathan, Western
[01:17:34] civilization is Christendom.
[01:17:37] It is an inheritance and a birthright
[01:17:39] brought to you by Christians,
[01:17:40] >> right? And when we seek to establish
[01:17:43] that, we seek to actually have what
[01:17:44] makes us what quote unquote the dominant
[01:17:47] culture. And it's not racial, it's not
[01:17:49] ethnic, but it is cultural. And that's
[01:17:51] what's important. And you must
[01:17:53] assimilate towards that norm when you
[01:17:55] come here. And immigration without
[01:17:58] assimilation is an invasion.
[01:18:00] >> Correct.
[01:18:01] >> And we should not put up with it.
[01:18:02] >> Yeah.
[01:18:03] >> Nathan, final thought and then I'm going
[01:18:05] to bring Lucas in for a line change
[01:18:08] here.
[01:18:08] >> Okay. Yeah. Geez, that was so good.
[01:18:12] Yeah, I just I just I just totally
[01:18:14] agree. I I I think um we have to be able
[01:18:17] to separate, you know. So, who is my
[01:18:18] neighbor? My neighbor is my Muslim
[01:18:20] doctor and my neighbor is, you know, a
[01:18:22] family, you know, that is here in from
[01:18:25] Mexico and they're begging and they need
[01:18:26] food and and I want to take care of them
[01:18:28] and that's my Christian duty to take
[01:18:30] care of them. And as a Christian, I need
[01:18:32] to separate
[01:18:54] said that we're being invaded.
[01:18:56] >> Does he have that power? I thought that
[01:18:57] was a congressionally approved.
[01:18:58] >> No, that's not correct. The president of
[01:18:59] the United States has an ability within
[01:19:00] a 90-day emergency clause window to say
[01:19:02] that we we are being invaded by a
[01:19:04] special power. It's called the War
[01:19:05] Powers Act of 1990 something. The War
[01:19:07] Powers Act gives the president the
[01:19:09] authority for 90 to 100 days to declare
[01:19:10] that we are being invaded. And we have
[01:19:12] been invaded, by the way, by MS-13 and
[01:19:14] Trenda Aaru. It's a material fact.
[01:19:16] considering okay uh one of the things
[01:19:18] that's super important when we consider
[01:19:19] law is the spirit of the law and
[01:19:23] the the do we really believe that these
[01:19:25] laws were enacted with a spirit in mind
[01:19:27] of gangs being associated as arms of a
[01:19:30] state
[01:19:31] >> potentially
[01:19:31] >> MS 13 andaga are not Venezuelan arms
[01:19:34] they're not
[01:19:35] >> no MS-13 is that's not correct but let
[01:19:37] let me throw it back at you MS-13 is El
[01:19:39] Salvadorian and and also um Venezuela
[01:19:42] yeah Treneraga is Venezuela MS-13 is El
[01:19:44] Salvadorian he signed Declaration of
[01:19:46] Invasions against both. But let me
[01:19:48] challenge you on this because you're
[01:19:49] coming after this in good faith. Was the
[01:19:51] First Amendment written in the spirit of
[01:19:53] Facebook posts?
[01:19:58] >> Can you clarify a little bit?
[01:20:00] >> The First Amendment.
[01:20:01] >> Yeah.
[01:20:02] >> Part of the Bill of Rights ratified in
[01:20:04] 1791. Was it written in the spirit that
[01:20:06] it shall apply to tweets?
[01:20:08] >> Uh not to private corporations.
[01:20:10] >> Well, no. No. meaning like does your do
[01:20:12] your free speech rights apply also to to
[01:20:14] the internet?
[01:20:16] >> So it applies to public squares. The
[01:20:18] question that we're having now is is
[01:20:19] Facebook a public square? Are Twitter
[01:20:21] public square?
[01:20:23] >> It's it's a separate issue. This issue
[01:20:24] is that we would all agree that you have
[01:20:26] a first amendment right to express
[01:20:27] yourself and the government can't throw
[01:20:29] you in prison regardless of where you
[01:20:31] have it. Whether you write a newspaper
[01:20:32] oped or whether you do a Facebook post,
[01:20:34] right?
[01:20:35] >> You have a first amendment right to do
[01:20:36] that. The point being is you say, well,
[01:20:38] the spirit of the law in 17, you know,
[01:20:40] 98, it doesn't matter if a law is old.
[01:20:43] It matters what moral claim is the law
[01:20:45] trying to make because times sort of
[01:20:48] change, but people do not. Human nature
[01:20:51] goes unchanged. And so, the point being
[01:20:53] is the Alien Enemies Act has been
[01:20:55] invoked four times in our nation's
[01:20:57] history. War of 1812, Civil War, World
[01:20:59] War I, World War II, and I believe
[01:21:01] totally appropriately invoked here. It's
[01:21:02] it's been enjoined by the Supreme Court
[01:21:04] right now. will find out its future. But
[01:21:07] when you have 15 million people come
[01:21:09] into your country in a span of four
[01:21:10] years, that is definitionally an
[01:21:13] invasion.
[01:21:16] >> Um
[01:21:19] I guess an invasion requires a certain
[01:21:22] commitment from a state, right? It's the
[01:21:24] a big difference between an invasion and
[01:21:26] a and an immigration wave is whether
[01:21:29] there's a state operating
[01:21:30] >> or a force. The cartels, man. The
[01:21:32] cartels operate like a state. The
[01:21:34] cartels are the reason that a lot of
[01:21:36] these people are able to make it up to
[01:21:37] the border. They pay.
[01:21:52] Welcome back everyone to the Charlie
[01:21:54] Kirk show. I'm Megan Kelly. It's
[01:21:56] completely an honor to be sitting here
[01:21:58] in Charlie's studio wearing the Freedom
[01:22:01] shirt and talking with Charlie's staff
[01:22:03] and about how Charlie lived his life.
[01:22:06] It's amazing here. Everyone is young.
[01:22:10] Everyone is energetic. Everyone is, you
[01:22:14] know, in a weird way upbeat. And by that
[01:22:16] I mean like they're obviously in deep
[01:22:19] grief, but they are finding a way to
[01:22:20] laugh with one another and be with one
[01:22:22] another and forge forward. And I I will
[01:22:24] tell you this is the most optimistic I
[01:22:26] have felt since eight days ago about the
[01:22:30] future of Turning Point. I just feel
[01:22:31] like these people, we are in good hands.
[01:22:33] Like this organization will go forward
[01:22:36] and they can do it. Not not only can
[01:22:38] they do it because they knew Charlie
[01:22:39] very well and they knew his vision and
[01:22:40] they'd been doing it, but you can just
[01:22:43] tell it's a family and they are more
[01:22:45] committed now than ever to making sure
[01:22:47] that that this organization stands and
[01:22:49] grows and becomes even stronger than it
[01:22:51] is right now. And it's going to be
[01:22:53] hopefully other than logistically it's
[01:22:55] going to be easy because they have the
[01:22:57] support of the world right now. Um and
[01:23:02] they also keep getting bits of good news
[01:23:04] here and there like last night uh the
[01:23:06] decision that Erica Kirk will take over
[01:23:09] as the CEO of Turning Point. Just saying
[01:23:11] it gives me the chills. It's exactly of
[01:23:13] course what Charlie would have wanted.
[01:23:14] You you know that from the tape you've
[01:23:16] seen of the two of them in what was one
[01:23:18] of the most beautiful love stories any
[01:23:20] of us has ever witnessed. An inspiration
[01:23:22] even to those of us who've been married
[01:23:23] for 18 years and are already happily
[01:23:25] married to do even better to try even
[01:23:28] harder to make our spouse even happier.
[01:23:31] Um and think of what somebody like that
[01:23:35] can do at the top of this organization
[01:23:37] in in the name of her husband. I mean
[01:23:39] it's it's going to be something to watch
[01:23:41] and participate in. They need
[01:23:42] everybody's help. Um, one of the other
[01:23:45] pieces of good news is that Jimmy Kimmel
[01:23:48] is no longer on the air and we're
[01:23:50] absolutely thrilled. We won't miss him
[01:23:53] at all. And I frankly all the liberal
[01:23:56] tear crying all over X is only making it
[01:24:00] better.
[01:24:01] What's the opposite of salt into your
[01:24:03] wounds? Sugar? I don't know. Balm. I
[01:24:05] like it's wonderful to see them upset.
[01:24:08] I'm sorry, but it's like um Steven L.
[01:24:11] Miller, who's not to be confused with
[01:24:13] Steven Miller, the Trump administration
[01:24:14] senior official. Stephen El Miller, he's
[01:24:16] been on the show before. He's very
[01:24:17] clever. He's a great Twitter follow. And
[01:24:19] he tweeted out or posted on X. Um,
[01:24:22] national media being more upset at Jimmy
[01:24:25] Kimmel losing his show than they are at
[01:24:27] Charlie Kirk losing his life is kind of
[01:24:30] proving the point. I couldn't say it any
[01:24:32] better than that. That's exactly it.
[01:24:34] They they're so they're way more upset
[01:24:36] about this news about this guy, this
[01:24:39] talking head who's been such a buffoon
[01:24:41] for so many years doing nothing other
[01:24:42] than
[01:24:44] being unkind. I'm trying not to swear.
[01:24:46] It says right here on the top of my
[01:24:47] packet. Reminder, no swearing because
[01:24:50] I'm on Charlie's show now. He's he so
[01:24:52] wholesome. Um but in any event, being
[01:24:55] such a jerk for so many years, losing
[01:24:58] his show, no one cares. Most normal
[01:25:00] people uh don't care. Walter Kern, do
[01:25:02] you care? He's my guest now. and joins
[01:25:04] me via satellite. Walter, your thoughts
[01:25:06] on Jimmy Kimmel and the leftist
[01:25:08] meltdown.
[01:25:10] >> Well, let me say something first. Uh,
[01:25:12] two months ago, Charlie asked me to be
[01:25:14] on this show. I had never been on it
[01:25:17] before. And, uh, I said no. I was too
[01:25:21] busy. I would get to him this fall.
[01:25:25] Well, he's not here. And now I'm on his
[01:25:28] show with him, not on Earth, which is a
[01:25:32] lesson to us all. Don't put things off.
[01:25:35] Don't do take take things for granted
[01:25:38] and how quickly and terribly things can
[01:25:40] change. So, uh I'm sorry, Mr. Kirk.
[01:25:43] >> Oh, yeah.
[01:25:44] >> I uh uh I'm sorry that I delayed too
[01:25:49] long. Anyway, what do I think of Jimmy
[01:25:52] Kimmel?
[01:25:54] >> Well, I do a little show biz. I write
[01:25:56] screenplays. I've had movies made in my
[01:25:58] books. I've written on TV shows. Jimmy,
[01:26:02] that's showbiz. You weren't funny. You
[01:26:05] weren't any good. You wished death on
[01:26:08] half of your audience in not so subtle
[01:26:10] ways. Hey Weezy, rest in peace. You made
[01:26:14] a false claim that this case had been
[01:26:18] cracked and the culprit was MAGA. Other
[01:26:22] words, half the US public. Now you're
[01:26:26] gone and you're gone legally and I think
[01:26:29] legitimately because ABC leases the
[01:26:32] public airwaves in order to make money
[01:26:34] and that lease comes with conditions and
[01:26:37] that is that it serves the public good
[01:26:39] basically.
[01:26:40] >> That's right.
[01:26:40] >> And it wasn't serving the public good.
[01:26:42] It was it was acting on behalf of a
[01:26:44] regime. It was acting on behalf of its
[01:26:47] pharmaceutical advertisers that keep it,
[01:26:50] you know, that keep it supported. It was
[01:26:53] slanting not just the news but every
[01:26:55] joke. It's not cable. Greg Gutfeld is
[01:26:58] not comparable. He's on cable news.
[01:27:00] Those are private wires that are laid in
[01:27:02] the ground. This is the public airwaves.
[01:27:04] A stage that we give people on the
[01:27:06] condition that they use it with decency
[01:27:09] and some sense of fairness and fair play
[01:27:12] and in the interest of all of us who own
[01:27:15] it. We own that station. we merely lease
[01:27:18] it to FC.
[01:27:19] >> And now they're finding out they
[01:27:20] violated their lease that there's a new
[01:27:22] sheriff in town at the FC FCC who
[01:27:24] actually is going to start enforcing
[01:27:26] these rules and regulations. I got to
[01:27:28] take a quick break, but we're going to
[01:27:29] pick it up right here when we come back
[01:27:31] and I'll tell you what Jimmy Kimmel has
[01:27:33] been saying in response to the news.
[01:27:35] Don't go away.
[01:27:38] [Music]
[01:27:47] money to the cartels. The cartels are
[01:27:49] using drones. They're using speedboats.
[01:27:51] They're using helicopters. The cartels
[01:27:53] act like a government. In fact, the
[01:27:55] cartels run the Mexican government. The
[01:27:56] Senate drug cartel is more powerful than
[01:27:58] the Mexican drug Mexican government.
[01:28:00] >> I would agree with labeling these
[01:28:01] terrorist organizations. I think they
[01:28:02] have the funding. They operate. They
[01:28:04] have such but to there's a key
[01:28:06] distinction between a government entity
[01:28:09] and a terrorist organization.
[01:28:11] >> Hold on. Is hold on a second. We
[01:28:12] declared war on al-Qaeda.
[01:28:15] >> Yeah.
[01:28:15] >> What government was al-Qaeda?
[01:28:18] >> Um we can declare war on terrorist
[01:28:20] organizations.
[01:28:21] >> No, I know. That's what I'm saying. So
[01:28:23] ala if we if we signed the Alien Enemies
[01:28:25] Act against al-Qaeda, it would have been
[01:28:27] perfectly fair and appropriate
[01:28:28] obviously. And al-Qaeda is not a
[01:28:30] government. What I'm saying though is
[01:28:31] that the cartels, the MS-13 and Trende
[01:28:33] Aaragua, they are being supported by
[01:28:35] governments. They're harboring
[01:28:36] governments. Alien Enemies Act of course
[01:28:38] applies to them. These are enemies here
[01:28:40] on the mainland of America doing harm.
[01:28:43] And Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a member of
[01:28:45] MS-13. He was a wife beater, a child
[01:28:47] abuser here illegally. He had a
[01:28:49] deportation notice on his head. And now
[01:28:50] he's back in his country of El Salvador
[01:28:52] and we should be happy that he's home.
[01:28:54] >> So
[01:28:56] I can grant you that he might be all
[01:28:58] these things. It does not mean that he
[01:28:59] doesn't get a day in court.
[01:29:00] >> But as a as a non US citizen though,
[01:29:03] >> the Alien Enemies Act allow us to
[01:29:05] expeditiously remove him. It's just the
[01:29:07] way it works. I mean,
[01:29:08] >> no, you're right. But
[01:29:09] >> and now that's not the case whether that
[01:29:11] was a correct invocation, right? That's
[01:29:12] >> But that's irrelevant. The Supreme Court
[01:29:14] has now said no more. So there will be
[01:29:15] no more. But in that specific case,
[01:29:17] nothing was done illegally. The only
[01:29:19] argument you might have is that the
[01:29:21] judge says you could deport him anywhere
[01:29:23] except El Salvador. So, we should
[01:29:25] probably should have just like deported
[01:29:26] him to, I don't know, the Congo and
[01:29:27] everyone would have been happier.
[01:29:29] Hilariously, they said, "Oh, he's in a
[01:29:30] foreign jail." No, he's not in a foreign
[01:29:32] jail. He's an El Salvadorian in his own
[01:29:35] country. He's not an American. If he
[01:29:37] would have went to Gitmo, that would
[01:29:38] have been a foreign jail.
[01:29:40] >> Okay. Um,
[01:29:44] and then, uh, let's see.
[01:29:46] >> I think that's it for me. Yeah.
[01:29:47] >> Thank you very much.
[01:29:48] >> Uh, could I ask you for a red hat?
[01:29:49] >> Yes, absolutely. Thank you. Y, thanks.
[01:29:51] Great question.
[01:29:53] [Music]
[01:29:56] Charlie.
[01:30:03] [Applause]
[01:30:05] [Music]
[01:30:06] [Applause]
[01:30:09] >> Yes, sir.
[01:30:11] >> All right. Um,
[01:30:13] >> hi Charlie. My name is Gabriel and uh I
[01:30:15] I'm a senior in high school and I I want
[01:30:17] to tell you this. I don't know much
[01:30:18] about this topic. So, I want I'm here
[01:30:20] more to learn, but I also want to
[01:30:22] provide a point of view. So, I wanted to
[01:30:24] speak about Trump's tariff policy. So,
[01:30:26] since January 20 um 2025, Trump has had
[01:30:29] one of the worst presidential terms
[01:30:31] concerning the economy. And there's
[01:30:33] statistics to back this up. S&P has
[01:30:36] dropped 8%, Dow Jones dropped 7%, the
[01:30:39] Russell dropped 12%. The way I
[01:30:41] understand it, tariffs are attacks that
[01:30:42] are passed on to consumers. They impede
[01:30:44] upon the world free trade and increase
[01:30:46] the cost of imported goods. This not
[01:30:48] only has tanked our economy, but is
[01:30:50] actually putting small businesses across
[01:30:51] America out of work. Middle class
[01:30:53] Americans that voted for Trump believing
[01:30:55] prices would drop are now having to
[01:30:57] close down their small business because
[01:30:58] they used to rely on outsourcing. Now, I
[01:31:00] understand that Trump's goal with this
[01:31:02] tariff policy is to bring back jobs to
[01:31:03] America. However, this is an unrealistic
[01:31:05] reality. Even though some corporations
[01:31:07] are moving production to the US to avoid
[01:31:09] tariff, in reality, most would rather
[01:31:12] pass the cost on to consumers than
[01:31:14] financially pay billions of dollars and
[01:31:16] building new plants in America and
[01:31:17] paying higher w higher wages. With all
[01:31:20] of this, I wanted to ask you if you
[01:31:22] could please defend Trump's tariff plan.
[01:31:24] >> Sure. Uh, great. Um, first of all, the
[01:31:27] market's recovering, but you're right,
[01:31:28] it has gone down. The market is not a
[01:31:30] necessarily good indicator of the
[01:31:31] economy. We have an economy and then we
[01:31:33] have a market. Half Americans don't know
[01:31:35] any stocks, just for the record. Okay.
[01:31:36] And that's a very important thing,
[01:31:37] right?
[01:31:38] >> There there's a lot of Americans that
[01:31:38] have money in stocks and are losing
[01:31:40] money every day because
[01:31:41] >> Well, actually, okay, you're in high
[01:31:43] school, so I'm just going to be like
[01:31:44] super gentle. Like the market's been up
[01:31:46] the last couple days, right? Markets go
[01:31:48] up, markets go down. The more important
[01:31:50] question, though, is what type of
[01:31:51] economy is going to survive the next 40
[01:31:53] or 50 years? When we do not make our own
[01:31:56] vitamin C, we don't make our own
[01:31:57] antibiotics, we don't make our own drone
[01:31:59] parts, and it's all made in China, we
[01:32:00] should try to redomicile it. It's it's
[01:32:02] it's tempting to blame this all on
[01:32:04] tariffs, but there's actually no tariffs
[01:32:05] that are in place right now. You know
[01:32:06] that, right?
[01:32:07] >> There there's there's still a 10%
[01:32:09] baseline tariff. And even though there's
[01:32:10] a 90-day pause, they're going to come
[01:32:11] back.
[01:32:12] >> That's the reality.
[01:32:13] >> You you you know that better than I do,
[01:32:14] right? Yeah.
[01:32:15] >> Well, I I know that. That's a fact.
[01:32:16] >> Oh, yeah. Sure. Okay.
[01:32:17] >> There's a there's a 90-day pause on
[01:32:19] >> So, again, I'm trying to be super like
[01:32:20] you're in high school. It's fine. You
[01:32:22] know, Trump's talking to South Korea and
[01:32:24] Japan and Vietnam. We're going to get
[01:32:25] massive deals with India, and we're
[01:32:27] going to fix the trade imbalances. And
[01:32:29] here's the core of it. Can we at least
[01:32:31] agree that Trump ran on the idea of
[01:32:34] tariffs? He did.
[01:32:35] >> And people voted for it. Yes.
[01:32:36] >> Should elected leaders do what people
[01:32:38] vote for them to do?
[01:32:39] >> Yes. But but I I agree that he's doing
[01:32:41] what he said he would do. What I'm
[01:32:43] asking you is how can you defend what
[01:32:45] he's doing? Cuz because what would you
[01:32:47] say to the middle class American that
[01:32:48] has a small business that now has to
[01:32:50] shut down their business because they
[01:32:51] used to outsource to China and now they
[01:32:53] can't pay due to the high tariffs.
[01:32:55] >> That's my question.
[01:32:56] >> Wait, they were outsourcing to China?
[01:32:57] Well, most uh even though some small
[01:32:59] businesses don't outsource, they get a
[01:33:01] lot of their production from bing
[01:33:02] companies that do make their products
[01:33:04] foreign. And so now that those prices
[01:33:06] are being jacked up and small,
[01:33:17] [Music]
[01:33:22] the voice of generations is the Charlie
[01:33:24] Kirk Show.
[01:33:26] Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show,
[01:33:28] which goes on just as Charlie would want
[01:33:31] it to. He's got millions of fans now
[01:33:34] across the world and so many who
[01:33:36] listened to the show and depended on
[01:33:37] Charlie to bring them the news
[01:33:40] unfiltered and with his brand of
[01:33:42] straight talk. And I'm honored to be
[01:33:45] here doing that for him today. And a
[01:33:48] shout out to the Megan Kelly show
[01:33:49] listeners, too, who are listening on
[01:33:50] SiriusXM and on our pod as well. Um,
[01:33:54] Jimmy Kimmel wasn't sorry. Okay, we
[01:33:56] played the soundbite on our show for you
[01:33:58] yesterday, and I'll play it here now,
[01:34:00] just for those of you who haven't heard
[01:34:01] what got him indefinitely suspended.
[01:34:04] He's fired. We'll see unless Disney
[01:34:06] bends the knee. But right now, it's not
[01:34:07] looking good for old Jimbo. Um, here's
[01:34:10] what he said in ST 7.
[01:34:13] We hit some new lows over the weekend
[01:34:15] with the MAGA gang desperately trying to
[01:34:17] characterize this kid who murdered
[01:34:19] Charlie Kirk as anything other than one
[01:34:21] of them and doing everything they can to
[01:34:24] score political points from it.
[01:34:26] >> So, he's a despicable pig. And he said
[01:34:29] that when he knew that it wasn't the
[01:34:31] case, the evidence had been ubiquitous
[01:34:33] about this person's leftleaning and
[01:34:37] commitment to left-wing ideology. We've
[01:34:39] gone through it repeatedly. you all
[01:34:40] know. Uh, and that all of that was out
[01:34:42] before Jimmy Kimmel said that on Monday
[01:34:44] night. Did he come out on the air on
[01:34:45] Tuesday night and try to correct his
[01:34:46] lie? No, because it was a lie. It was an
[01:34:48] intentional misstatement of fact meant
[01:34:51] to mislead you. It was not a mistake, as
[01:34:53] some left-wing defenders are saying
[01:34:55] right now on X. And his plan on
[01:34:58] Wednesday was not to go out and
[01:34:59] apologize that night either. His plan,
[01:35:01] according to the Hollywood Reporter, was
[01:35:02] to go out and claim that he was the
[01:35:04] victim because it was taken out of
[01:35:06] context. and he was going to give us the
[01:35:07] proper context in which somehow his lie
[01:35:10] about MAGA at a time when MAGA is under
[01:35:13] greater threat than it's been in quite
[01:35:14] some time. Um that that he jinned up
[01:35:17] that hatred during such a time when MAG
[01:35:19] is grieving in a way it hasn't been so
[01:35:21] profoundly since I've known it. Um that
[01:35:25] that he did that in a way that was just
[01:35:26] simply out of context. Okay, more lies.
[01:35:29] And so the station's groups uh from
[01:35:31] NextStar uh and others by the way, it
[01:35:34] wasn't just Nextstar went Sinclair went
[01:35:37] uh to Disney and said, "We're not
[01:35:39] running this show. We're not going to be
[01:35:40] a part of this. Not now, not ever. We're
[01:35:43] not we're no longer going to be
[01:35:45] complicit in his lies." And the FCC
[01:35:48] commissioner, Brandon Carr, had said
[01:35:49] earlier in the day that he wasn't going
[01:35:51] to tolerate this, that they have an
[01:35:53] actual duty to uphold the public
[01:35:55] interest on the airwaves. and Disney
[01:35:57] caved as it should have. He had no
[01:36:00] right. That's literally what some are
[01:36:01] saying. He had a right to be out there
[01:36:02] with this show. Swallwell, he's an
[01:36:04] idiot. Um, he had no right and now he's
[01:36:08] accurately and justly been taken off the
[01:36:10] air. So, Walter, your thoughts on the
[01:36:13] leftist claim that this is government
[01:36:15] interference, which does make it a
[01:36:17] potential free speech problem. I mean,
[01:36:18] at least they have it right that when
[01:36:20] the government's involved, you have a
[01:36:22] potential First Amendment issue. But I
[01:36:24] mean my my own thought on it is yes
[01:36:25] that's right. But government actually
[01:36:27] here does have a role that's that's
[01:36:29] actually statutoily prescribed.
[01:36:32] It absolutely does. Imagine Yellowstone
[01:36:35] Park a park that belongs to the people.
[01:36:37] And it grants a license to one
[01:36:39] particular company to lead tours. But it
[01:36:42] says, "Hey, there's two things. You
[01:36:43] can't abuse the wildlife and you can't
[01:36:45] be mean to the tourists." And then it
[01:36:48] starts abusing the wildlife and being
[01:36:49] mean to the tourists. Does the federal
[01:36:52] government have a right to fire that
[01:36:54] person or at least threaten them with
[01:36:55] it? Absolutely. Does that company that
[01:36:58] wants to keep that lease, that special
[01:37:00] privilege that allows them to make
[01:37:02] money, uh, have an interest in getting
[01:37:04] rid of that tour guide? Absolutely.
[01:37:07] That's all that happened. The rest is
[01:37:09] bombast. You have a right to speak and
[01:37:11] I'm sure he'll have a very popular
[01:37:13] substack or or or or a streaming
[01:37:15] channel, but you do not have the right
[01:37:17] to a stage that belongs to the people of
[01:37:20] the United States. And the broadcast
[01:37:22] airwaves, as I said before, are exactly
[01:37:24] that. They are a resource like water or
[01:37:27] land, a set of frequencies.
[01:37:29] >> You know, here's what I want to say
[01:37:30] about Jimmy Kimmel or Steven Cobar for
[01:37:32] that matter in the podcast lane. Of
[01:37:34] course, we love it and we've now really
[01:37:37] made our living in it. I mean, we we've
[01:37:39] I've been over this lane for five years
[01:37:41] and you're in it, too. So, we love it
[01:37:43] and it's meaningful and it's the future.
[01:37:45] We know that. But here's what's so
[01:37:46] delicious to Jimmy Kimmel. That would
[01:37:49] that's going to be horrible. Like his
[01:37:52] recognizing that that's where he has
[01:37:55] likely to land next is going to be a
[01:37:58] fate worse than the worst possible
[01:38:00] outcomes for him because he thinks he's
[01:38:03] of ABC and Disney. He's used to going to
[01:38:06] the theme parks and having his rear end
[01:38:08] kissed. He wants to be at all the right
[01:38:11] parties and he wants to be the king of
[01:38:13] television. People are on television
[01:38:15] think television the only thing that
[01:38:16] matters. So, he's definitely going to
[01:38:18] suffer, which is delicious because he's
[01:38:21] been the king of enjoying everyone
[01:38:24] else's cancellation for years. For
[01:38:27] years. just to do a quick search for
[01:38:29] what he said about Tucker when he got
[01:38:31] booted from Fox uh for far less
[01:38:33] controversy than what he just caused.
[01:38:41] >> You there? No, there's no S, Walter.
[01:38:42] That's just that's just me asking for
[01:38:44] your opinion on it.
[01:38:44] >> I was waiting for I thought that was the
[01:38:46] big leadup. I thought that was the drum
[01:38:48] roll. Listen, let's get some realism in
[01:38:50] here about show business and about
[01:38:52] network news and so on. Jimmy Kimmel was
[01:38:56] on his way out. Trump predicted that he
[01:38:58] was next after Colob Bear months ago. I
[01:39:01] have a good friend who works in the very
[01:39:03] small world of late night comedy
[01:39:06] hosting. Okay, there everyone knew Jimmy
[01:39:09] was not long for this world. So what he
[01:39:12] did was he went on a suicide mission at
[01:39:14] the last minute. He shot his mouth off
[01:39:17] doing something that would only please
[01:39:19] the partisans so that he could then pose
[01:39:21] as a free speech martyr rather than a
[01:39:24] sad sack toad of a bad comedian.
[01:39:27] >> Yes, that's exactly right. And it's like
[01:39:30] it's amazing to me because people are
[01:39:31] like speaking of swallow he tweeted out
[01:39:34] he's a comedian and Scott Adams
[01:39:37] responded so was Roseanne. Do
[01:39:39] cartoonists count? Because of course,
[01:39:40] Scott Adams had Dilbert pulled from him,
[01:39:43] his comic pulled after he said something
[01:39:45] too controversial. Roseanne got fired
[01:39:47] for a tweet. She wasn't even in her
[01:39:49] lane. He was on the air for Disney.
[01:39:52] Jimmy Kimmel was. And let's not forget
[01:39:55] they fired I tweeted this out last
[01:39:56] night, Walter. ABC the mouse fired Chris
[01:39:59] Harrison who hosted the Bachelor because
[01:40:03] a bachelorette was unearthed to have had
[01:40:06] pictures at an antibbellum themed party
[01:40:09] years ago. And he said, "Oh geez,
[01:40:12] shouldn't we judge her by like the the
[01:40:14] way we were at the time as opposed to
[01:40:16] the way we are now?" They fired him. His
[01:40:18] career never recovered. So why wouldn't
[01:40:20] they get rid of Kimmel for this? Bill
[01:40:23] Maher was fired from his show
[01:40:26] Politically Incorrect if I'm not
[01:40:28] mistaken because he said something about
[01:40:31] the 911 hijackers. He said whatever else
[01:40:34] they were, they weren't cowards because
[01:40:35] they were willing to die for their
[01:40:37] cause. Yeah. Okay.
[01:40:38] >> Yep.
[01:40:39] >> He got canned. He's got his butt. Sorry,
[01:40:42] I almost swore.
[01:40:43] >> I know. We're not allowed. No swearing.
[01:40:44] It says right here on my list.
[01:40:47] >> $500 the turning point for every swear
[01:40:49] that comes out of my mouth. Uh, but they
[01:40:51] kicked his butt off the air and that's
[01:40:53] not a swear. And he came back because he
[01:40:56] was talented, because he had a loyal fan
[01:40:58] base and he, you know, I was on his show
[01:41:00] a couple of weeks ago. Jimmy Kimmel can
[01:41:02] land on his feet if he wants, but I
[01:41:05] doubt he will because the the real
[01:41:07] wonder of it all was that Jimmy Kimmel
[01:41:09] lasted on the air for as long as he did.
[01:41:12] He was the most some he had some
[01:41:14] guardian angel. He didn't have to be
[01:41:15] funny. He didn't have to pull ratings.
[01:41:17] He didn't have to speak to half America.
[01:41:20] He was allowed to insult people at will.
[01:41:22] He actually campaigned on stage. Uh
[01:41:27] I I just saw a clip this morning of him
[01:41:28] giving a long talk to Republicans in his
[01:41:31] audience about why they shouldn't vote
[01:41:33] for Trump.
[01:41:35] He wasn't news. He was worse than news.
[01:41:38] They used him to do things that news
[01:41:40] isn't allowed to do, like lie.
[01:41:43] >> Yeah. Exactly. So now he's reportedly
[01:41:45] very angry. This is what the the trade
[01:41:48] rags are saying is that Jimmy Kimmel is
[01:41:50] furious that this has happened to him as
[01:41:54] though he is a passive victim who is
[01:41:58] really just martyed here because he
[01:42:00] didn't do anything wrong. It was just
[01:42:02] taken out of context and the the mean
[01:42:05] bad television executives are out to get
[01:42:08] him. And meanwhile, I just have to get
[01:42:09] this out. You've got people like on the
[01:42:11] left like Ben Stiller and there are many
[01:42:14] I could pick on, but I'm gonna pick on
[01:42:15] Ben Stiller here who decided to tweet
[01:42:17] out about this about Jimmy Kimmel's
[01:42:19] indefinite suspension. This isn't right.
[01:42:22] Okay, it's not that pointed. Whatever.
[01:42:25] It's fine. This isn't right. That's his
[01:42:26] belief. I We went back just to see if he
[01:42:28] had said anything about Charlie.
[01:42:30] Nothing. He couldn't manage this isn't
[01:42:34] right about Charlie Kirk's
[01:42:36] assassination.
[01:42:38] But he wants us to feel bad for Jimmy
[01:42:40] Kimmel. Walter,
[01:42:42] >> it makes you wonder about Hollywood.
[01:42:44] Aren't they in the business of amusing
[01:42:46] and pleasing the American public?
[01:42:48] Apparently not. For a long time now,
[01:42:50] they've been curiously not in the
[01:42:52] business of making money, pulling
[01:42:54] ratings, being right, making good
[01:42:56] movies, uh, and addressing reality in
[01:42:59] those movies. They're often some Marvel
[01:43:01] comic book universe. What exactly are
[01:43:04] they showing solidarity with? I I don't
[01:43:07] understand it. Do they do they believe
[01:43:10] they are a guaranteed a future even if
[01:43:12] they have the wrath?
[01:43:13] >> They think they're standing up for the
[01:43:15] First Amendment, which is so ironic
[01:43:17] given the way they've been behaving for
[01:43:19] the past six years. They're the ones who
[01:43:22] back the Biden regime that censored all
[01:43:24] of us on co on the Hunter Biden laptop.
[01:43:28] We could go down the list. They were
[01:43:29] fine with all of that. Megan, I'm I you
[01:43:32] know, you may not agree with this, but
[01:43:34] the public airwaves, meaning the
[01:43:36] broadcast networks, which have belong to
[01:43:38] all of us, were bought by the
[01:43:40] pharmaceutical industry, who are 70% of
[01:43:42] the advertising. They were purchased by
[01:43:45] them and they were used in their behalf.
[01:43:48] One of Jimmy Kimmel's bits was to make
[01:43:51] fun of ivormect as horse paste and claim
[01:43:54] that anybody who showed up having used
[01:43:56] it at an emergency room should be
[01:43:58] allowed to quote rest in peace, i.e.
[01:44:00] die. Well, that drug Ivormectin was a
[01:44:03] present danger to Fizer's vaccine that
[01:44:06] was coming and a way of treating people
[01:44:09] when there were no other real ways
[01:44:12] prevaccine.
[01:44:13] This guy sung for his supper for his
[01:44:16] masters. It wasn't Jimmy Kimmel speaking
[01:44:19] when that ugly mouth opened. It was a
[01:44:23] huge industry that spoke through him.
[01:44:26] And now he's acting like a free speech
[01:44:28] martyr because that industry is facing
[01:44:30] the loss of their right to advertise on
[01:44:33] TV, which they've only had since the
[01:44:35] late 90s. And so they're drumming up a
[01:44:37] big First amendment case so that they
[01:44:40] can go on buying the news. And that's
[01:44:43] how I really feel.
[01:44:44] >> It's really incredible. I mean, this is
[01:44:46] the same group of people who wrote like
[01:44:49] Jeff, uh, the Democratic leader in the
[01:44:51] House actually wrote a letter to Fox
[01:44:53] News demanding that they not let Tucker
[01:44:56] Carlson air his special about the J6
[01:45:00] event and the actively like that's
[01:45:03] government actively interfering where it
[01:45:05] doesn't have any right. The FCC actually
[01:45:07] does have a right
[01:45:08] >> and that's the funny thing, Megan. The
[01:45:11] government which does have a right to
[01:45:12] intervene with public broadcast networks
[01:45:16] took that right and extended it into
[01:45:18] places during COVID and during Trump the
[01:45:21] Trump era generally where it doesn't
[01:45:23] belong platforms like Twitter, Facebook
[01:45:26] and so on. Cable news etc. They tried to
[01:45:30] be the cops in other people's towns and
[01:45:34] they succeeded because they intimidated
[01:45:36] management and they infiltrated it
[01:45:39] frankly over at Twitter. I mean you just
[01:45:42] went from the FBI to Twitter management
[01:45:44] and that's documented.
[01:45:46] >> True.
[01:45:46] >> And and and so now they are facing the
[01:45:51] worm turning. They are facing a public
[01:45:54] that before Charlie's death was already
[01:45:57] changing in its complexion
[01:45:59] >> and now is absolutely outrage. Stand by.
[01:46:02] We're going to pick it up on the
[01:46:03] opposite side of this break. Uh don't go
[01:46:05] away. We'll be right back.
[01:46:08] [Music]
[01:46:30] not mean that he doesn't get a day in
[01:46:31] court.
[01:46:31] >> But as a as a non US citizen though, the
[01:46:34] Alien Enemies Act allow us to
[01:46:36] expeditiously remove him. It's just the
[01:46:38] way it works. I mean,
[01:46:39] >> no, you're right. But
[01:46:40] >> and now that's not the case.
[01:46:41] >> Argue whether that was a correct
[01:46:42] invocation, right? That's
[01:46:43] >> But that's irrelevant. The Supreme Court
[01:46:45] has now said no more. So there will be
[01:46:46] no more. But in that specific case,
[01:46:48] nothing was done illegally. The only
[01:46:50] argument you might have is that the
[01:46:52] judge says you could deport him anywhere
[01:46:54] except El Salvador. So, we should
[01:46:55] probably should have just like deported
[01:46:57] him to, I don't know, the Congo and
[01:46:58] everyone would have been happier.
[01:47:00] Hilariously, they said, "Oh, he's in a
[01:47:01] foreign jail." No, he's not in a foreign
[01:47:03] jail. He's an El Salvadorian in his own
[01:47:06] country. He's not an American. If he
[01:47:08] would have went to Gitmo, that would
[01:47:09] have been a foreign jail.
[01:47:11] >> Okay. Um,
[01:47:15] >> and then, uh, let's see.
[01:47:17] >> I think that's it for me. Yeah.
[01:47:18] >> Thank you very much. Could I ask him for
[01:47:19] a red hat?
[01:47:20] >> Yes, absolutely. Thank you. Yeah,
[01:47:22] thanks. Great question.
[01:47:24] [Music]
[01:47:33] [Applause]
[01:47:36] [Music]
[01:47:37] [Applause]
[01:47:40] Yes, sir.
[01:47:42] >> All right. Um,
[01:47:43] >> hi Charlie. My name is Gabriel and uh I
[01:47:46] I'm a senior in high school and I I want
[01:47:48] to tell you this. I don't know much
[01:47:49] about this topic. So, I want I'm here
[01:47:51] more to learn, but I also want to
[01:47:53] provide a point of view. So, I wanted to
[01:47:55] speak about Trump's tariff policy. So,
[01:47:57] since January 20, um, 2025, Trump has
[01:48:00] had one of the worst presidential terms
[01:48:02] concerning the economy. And there's
[01:48:04] statistics to back this up. S&P has
[01:48:07] dropped 8%, Dow Jones dropped 7%, the
[01:48:10] Russell dropped 12%. The way I
[01:48:12] understand it, tariffs are attacks that
[01:48:13] are passed on to consumers. They impede
[01:48:15] upon the world free trade and increased
[01:48:17] the cost of imported goods. This not
[01:48:19] only has tanked our economy, but is
[01:48:20] actually putting small businesses across
[01:48:22] America out of work. Middle class
[01:48:24] Americans that voted for Trump believing
[01:48:26] prices would drop are now having to
[01:48:28] close down their small business because
[01:48:29] they used to rely on outsourcing. Now I
[01:48:31] understand that Trump's goal with this
[01:48:32] tariff policies to bring back jobs to
[01:48:34] America. However, this is an unrealistic
[01:48:36] reality. Even though some corporations
[01:48:38] are moving production to the US to avoid
[01:48:40] tariff, in reality, most would rather
[01:48:43] pass the cost on to consumers than
[01:48:45] financially pay billions of dollars and
[01:48:46] building new plants in America and
[01:48:48] paying higher w higher wages. With all
[01:48:51] of this, I wanted to ask you if you
[01:48:53] could please defend Trump's tariff plan.
[01:48:55] >> Sure. Uh, great. Um, first of all, the
[01:48:58] market's recovering, but you're right,
[01:48:59] it has gone down. The market is not a
[01:49:01] necessarily good indicator of the
[01:49:02] economy. We have an economy, and then we
[01:49:04] have a market. Half Americans don't know
[01:49:05] any stocks, just for the record. Okay?
[01:49:07] And that's a very important thing,
[01:49:08] right?
[01:49:08] >> There there's a lot of Americans that
[01:49:09] have money in stocks and are losing
[01:49:11] money every day.
[01:49:12] >> Well, actually, okay, you're in high
[01:49:14] school, so I'm just going to be like
[01:49:15] super gentle. Like, the market's been up
[01:49:17] the last couple days, right? Markets go
[01:49:18] up, markets go down. The more important
[01:49:20] question though is what type of economy
[01:49:22] is going to survive the next 40 or 50
[01:49:24] years when we do not make our own
[01:49:27] vitamin C, we don't make our own
[01:49:28] antibiotics, we don't make our own drone
[01:49:30] parts, and it's all made in China, we
[01:49:31] should try to redomicile it. It's it's
[01:49:33] it's tempting to blame this all on
[01:49:35] tariffs, but there's actually no tariffs
[01:49:36] that are in place right now. You know
[01:49:37] that, right?
[01:49:38] >> There there's there's still a 10%
[01:49:40] baseline tariff, and even though there's
[01:49:41] a 90-day pause, they're going to come
[01:49:42] back.
[01:49:43] >> That's the reality.
[01:49:44] >> You you you know that better than I do,
[01:49:45] right? Yeah.
[01:49:46] >> Well, I I know that. That's a fact.
[01:49:47] >> Oh, yeah. Sure. Okay. There's a there's
[01:49:48] a 90-day pause on
[01:49:50] >> So again, I'm trying to be super like
[01:49:51] you're in high school. It's fine. You
[01:49:53] know, Trump's talking to South Korea and
[01:49:55] Japan and Vietnam. We're going to get
[01:49:56] massive deals with India and we're going
[01:49:58] to fix the trade imbalances. And here's
[01:50:00] the core of it. Can we at least agree
[01:50:02] that Trump ran on the idea of tariffs?
[01:50:05] He did
[01:50:06] >> and people voted for it.
[01:50:07] >> Yes.
[01:50:07] >> Should elected leaders do what people
[01:50:09] vote for them to do?
[01:50:10] >> Yes. But but I I agree that he's doing
[01:50:12] what he said he would do. What I'm
[01:50:14] asking you is how can you defend what
[01:50:16] he's doing? Because because what would
[01:50:18] you say to the middle class American
[01:50:19] that has a small business that now has
[01:50:21] to shut down their business because they
[01:50:22] used to outsource to China and now they
[01:50:24] can't pay due to the high tariffs?
[01:50:26] >> That's my question.
[01:50:27] >> Wait, they were outsourcing to China?
[01:50:28] >> Well, most uh even though some small
[01:50:30] businesses don't outsource, they get a
[01:50:31] lot of their production from Bing
[01:50:33] companies that do make their products
[01:50:34] foreign. And so now those prices are
[01:50:37] being jacked up and small
[01:50:51] Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show
[01:50:53] which goes on just as Erica Kirk said it
[01:50:56] would. We are all going to help. All of
[01:50:59] us who love Charlie will make sure his
[01:51:02] show goes on, his legacy goes on, his
[01:51:04] events go on. The one of our most
[01:51:08] beloved sons is gone. But his movement
[01:51:10] is not gone. and it is up to all of us
[01:51:13] to make sure it thrives. I hope you'll
[01:51:15] all join me in supporting TPUSA. Uh
[01:51:17] it'll be an honor for us all. Uh Walter,
[01:51:21] where do you think this goes? Where do
[01:51:22] you think all this grief and love and
[01:51:26] the complicated feelings the country is
[01:51:27] having right now goes?
[01:51:31] Well, the history of civilization
[01:51:34] suggests that true martyrs, people who
[01:51:36] die for their beliefs and die when
[01:51:39] enacting peaceful uh, you know,
[01:51:43] strategies, they're not in war, they're
[01:51:45] not in bitter conflict. Those are the
[01:51:48] most influential people in history. I
[01:51:50] mean, the most influential pe person in
[01:51:53] western history was one of those. Um,
[01:51:56] and but but we have many cases. Uh and I
[01:52:00] would imagine that for the people who
[01:52:02] wish to honor him and the people who are
[01:52:04] touched by him and the people who are
[01:52:05] just finding out about him, there will
[01:52:08] be a great and deep desire to carry on
[01:52:12] in his spirit. Not just in his spirit in
[01:52:16] terms of politics, but in terms I think
[01:52:19] we've got a bigger situation on our
[01:52:21] hand. We've got a spiritual situation on
[01:52:23] our hand. It's leading to a revival.
[01:52:25] I've got kids who uh I'm not talking
[01:52:28] about my own kids who I know in their
[01:52:30] 20s, young guys sitting around in their
[01:52:33] apartments drinking beer, doing their
[01:52:35] first jobs, who are having deep
[01:52:36] conversations and texting me, hey
[01:52:38] Walter, what do you think about this
[01:52:41] where it says in the Bible, I I wasn't
[01:52:42] aware you guys knew there was a Bible.
[01:52:45] This is happening in the last week. That
[01:52:48] is a movement of the spirit and America
[01:52:51] has had revivals that have determined
[01:52:53] its history several times.
[01:52:56] On the other side, in terms of those who
[01:52:59] are hostile to it, I think they look
[01:53:01] like a bunch of screaming banshees who
[01:53:04] have been had the lights turned on while
[01:53:06] they engaged in dark practices and
[01:53:10] they're exposed. I think that this is to
[01:53:13] some extent out of our hands. It's up to
[01:53:17] us to hold the standards of civil
[01:53:19] discourse and other values that Charlie
[01:53:22] held dear even dearer than he did. He
[01:53:26] was obviously the threat. What he was
[01:53:29] doing, he wasn't a rabble rouser. He was
[01:53:31] a debater and he was a spiritual person.
[01:53:34] And that they identified as the biggest
[01:53:36] threat, which is why they eliminated it.
[01:53:39] That means to me that emulating his
[01:53:43] behavior is the biggest threat and the
[01:53:46] most powerful tool. And so I think
[01:53:49] people will pick it up and I think
[01:53:50] things will change because I think the
[01:53:53] reestablishment of decency first of all,
[01:53:56] common decency, which is all they're
[01:53:58] trying to do in this ABC case, but it
[01:54:00] looks like radical action. And they call
[01:54:02] it fascism now because we haven't
[01:54:04] observed any common decency for so long
[01:54:06] in this country. It's so true. I
[01:54:09] >> I think things will change for the
[01:54:11] better. I really do, Megan. I cannot
[01:54:13] They may get intense. They may be loud.
[01:54:17] They may be fractious,
[01:54:19] but I don't think that the release of a
[01:54:21] spirit like his into the public mind
[01:54:26] with the intensity and the drama around
[01:54:29] it that surrounds his death can't help
[01:54:32] but be a good thing.
[01:54:34] >> Yeah. And it's it in those who don't
[01:54:38] accept his goodness and let it infuse
[01:54:40] them with the Holy Spirit and a renewed
[01:54:42] drive to stand up for the things we know
[01:54:44] are true, but instead go to the dark
[01:54:47] place of mocking him or what he stood
[01:54:49] for. God help them. God help them
[01:54:52] because their their their future is dark
[01:54:54] and it's grim and it's depressing unlike
[01:54:57] what the rest of us are about to do
[01:55:00] which is going to be uplifting and
[01:55:01] uniting and could just save this
[01:55:03] country. Walter Kern,
[01:55:05] >> I feel invigorated. I feel invigorated.
[01:55:07] And I was not someone watching Charlie
[01:55:09] Kirk every minute. I'm a little bit old
[01:55:11] for the people he was trying to address,
[01:55:14] but boy, I'm not too old now.
[01:55:16] >> Amen. Thanks for being here. Really
[01:55:18] appreciate it. We'll talk again soon. Uh
[01:55:21] I want to thank say thanks to all the
[01:55:22] folks here at Turning Point. They've
[01:55:24] taken such good care of me, not just
[01:55:25] today, but over the years. and uh
[01:55:28] encourage all of you to believe in this
[01:55:29] organization and get behind Erica cuz
[01:55:31] let me tell you being here I can see it.
[01:55:34] Their future is bright. These are dark
[01:55:36] days right now but their future is
[01:55:38] bright. Going to say goodbye with the
[01:55:40] following clip. SP 19. The crowd outside
[01:55:43] of TPUSA.
[01:55:46] [Music]
[01:55:49] >> Grace,
[01:55:51] how sweet
[01:55:53] the sound
[01:55:56] that save
[01:55:59] the rich
[01:56:02] like me.
[01:56:07] I once
[01:56:09] was lost
[01:56:12] but now
[01:56:15] I'm found.
[01:56:18] Was blind
[01:56:21] but now
[01:56:24] I see.
[01:56:32] Heat.
[01:56:38] [Music]
[01:56:44] Heat.
[01:56:47] [Music]
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