Jack Posobiec Joins the Charlie Kirk Show Live From Davos

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He's been uh [00:00:50] providing some behindthe-scenes clips [00:00:51] that have been really fascinating to [00:00:52] watch. Jack, we're talking about this [00:00:55] dynamic between European elites, the [00:00:57] leadership and President Trump. [00:00:58] Obviously, there's tension. There's [00:01:00] tension about Greenland. There's tension [00:01:01] about NATO, NATO funding. There's [00:01:04] flirtations with China. Tell us what [00:01:06] you're feeling and seeing in the room. [00:01:08] This this this dynamic between Atlantic [00:01:11] allies. [00:01:15] >> Yeah, Andrew guys, that's exactly right. [00:01:17] And, you know, we're here. We're in the [00:01:19] room. I remember four years ago my very [00:01:21] first Davos calling into the Charlie [00:01:23] Kirk show right after getting detained [00:01:25] by the World Economic Forum police. So, [00:01:28] you know, here we are four years later. [00:01:29] We're inside the building. We're they're [00:01:32] in the room with President Trump and he [00:01:34] and the US team, they're still kind of [00:01:35] going around here. So, he's holding [00:01:37] those sideline meetings as we speak. [00:01:39] There's going to be a reception a little [00:01:40] bit later. But, you're right. There [00:01:42] there really is this sort of tension. [00:01:43] there's this sort of um you know I I I [00:01:47] would say even kind of a cynicism of [00:01:49] some of the European leaders saying that [00:01:51] oh Trump he's so ridiculous this will [00:01:53] never work this will never happen we can [00:01:55] you know we can be rude to him but at [00:01:56] the same time you've come to understand [00:01:58] that in certainly in the room we saw [00:02:00] this there were a lot of people laughing [00:02:01] at his jokes they were sort of rolling [00:02:03] with the punches rolling with the [00:02:04] laughter and I think that this time [00:02:06] around given that he's been on the world [00:02:08] stage for so many years they they've [00:02:11] started to take that that old Scott [00:02:13] Adams phrase where they they take him [00:02:15] seriously, but they don't take him [00:02:17] literally. And what that means is that [00:02:19] they're serious about his intentions, [00:02:21] but they understand that a lot of what [00:02:23] he's doing, he's going into his salesman [00:02:25] pitch. He's going into his arc. He's [00:02:27] saying things for effect over and over [00:02:29] again. And it seemed that at least in [00:02:31] the room, a lot of people got that. [00:02:33] >> Yeah, it's very uh nicely mentioned [00:02:35] that, Jack. I was no joke. I was reading [00:02:37] the other day the members of the [00:02:39] Norwegian Nobel Prize Committee and one [00:02:40] of them is the foreign policy blogger [00:02:42] and he actually had a thing he wrote on [00:02:44] the Greenland drama and he basically [00:02:46] said uh Trump is always in negotiation [00:02:50] mode and that means he's always trying [00:02:53] to keep people off balance. He's like [00:02:54] he'll like shock them by being really [00:02:56] aggressive with what he says. He'll [00:03:00] consider any offer. He's always ready to [00:03:02] make a deal. And it's just so [00:03:03] disorienting compared to how a normal [00:03:05] person is. [00:03:06] And it and it kind of relies a bit on, [00:03:08] you know, the old Nixon idea, the madman [00:03:11] theory. Like part of his negotiation [00:03:12] position is to basically be like, I'm [00:03:14] super serious. I'm ready to invade. I've [00:03:17] I've thrown out the brakes on my car. [00:03:19] I've thrown out the steering wheel. [00:03:20] Nothing can stop me. And then, oh, he [00:03:22] actually can just stop and make the deal [00:03:24] very abruptly. [00:03:26] >> I completely agree. This is what uh [00:03:28] again this we we talked about this guy [00:03:30] Josh Wolf uh Jack who kind of you know [00:03:33] he said this is classic Trump [00:03:35] negotiation sequence. It goes like this. [00:03:37] Signal acquisition Denmark scoffs. [00:03:39] Mention force Denmark recoils. Insist on [00:03:42] force loudly repeatedly. Denmark reaches [00:03:45] peak indignation. Others come to their [00:03:47] side then pivot. A purchase offer that [00:03:49] eliminates Denmark's entire national [00:03:50] debt 142 billion and nearly doubles [00:03:53] Greenland's GDP 450 billion. And [00:03:55] suddenly the question is no longer how [00:03:56] dare you but wait how much. What do you [00:04:00] think, Jack? [00:04:03] >> Yeah, exactly. [00:04:04] >> No, I I think that's exactly the path [00:04:06] that I'm trying to see this. And if [00:04:08] anyone wants to know what this is [00:04:09] called, it's literally called The Art of [00:04:10] the Deal. President Trump wrote a book [00:04:12] about this about 40 years ago where he [00:04:14] outlines that specific policy in great [00:04:17] detail. He says it's what he does every [00:04:19] single time he's in a high stakes [00:04:21] negotiation. And I think it's really [00:04:22] interesting that so many people either [00:04:24] haven't actually read that book, haven't [00:04:27] seen him do it a million times already, [00:04:28] and that they still seem to fall for the [00:04:31] same exact trick. Now, one of the things [00:04:33] that I did think was interesting, you [00:04:35] know, coming at it from a military [00:04:36] perspective as well, that he did talk [00:04:38] about the need for Greenland, not just [00:04:40] we've heard from, you know, the Arctic [00:04:42] shipping routes. We've also heard it [00:04:43] from the national security in terms of [00:04:45] those sea lanes. But he also talked [00:04:47] about ballistic missile defense and [00:04:49] really talked about the golden dome, [00:04:51] those intercontinental ballistic [00:04:52] missiles, whether they're fired off from [00:04:53] China, Russia, North Korea. Even if [00:04:55] Iran, if they were able to develop the [00:04:57] those longrange ballistic missiles, they [00:04:59] would be flying them over the top [00:05:01] targeting Washington DC and they would [00:05:03] inevitably fall within the territory of [00:05:05] Greenland, making Greenland a key [00:05:08] position, key point for the United [00:05:10] States in any type of missile defense. [00:05:12] And I haven't really seen him use that [00:05:15] phrasing and use that phraseology, put [00:05:16] it all together on the world stage. He [00:05:19] kind of pressed it in an interview [00:05:20] yesterday, but today was the really big [00:05:22] one. And I think that for anyone who's [00:05:24] looking at it seriously, he makes some [00:05:26] very solid military points there. [00:05:28] >> Yeah. No, I agree. I think the ICBM [00:05:30] argument is pretty strong. And I I loved [00:05:33] him namechecking Carney, telling him to [00:05:36] to know his role, know his place. I [00:05:38] think that's important, actually. Um, [00:05:40] and there's another dynamic that's a [00:05:41] little bit more on the domestic home [00:05:43] front here, Jack. There's you got Gavin [00:05:44] Newsome wandering around. He's calling [00:05:46] Scott Besson smug. Scott Besson had the [00:05:48] line of the day, I think, hitting him [00:05:51] back. 314. [00:05:53] >> It's very very uh [00:05:57] uh ironic that, you know, Governor [00:05:59] Nuome, who strikes me as Patrick Baitman [00:06:02] meets Sparkle Beach Ken, uh, may be the [00:06:04] only Californian who knows less about [00:06:07] economics than Kla Harris. [00:06:09] Uh the he's here this week with his [00:06:12] billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros. [00:06:16] >> I've seen you behind the scenes. You've [00:06:18] gotten iPhone video of Gavin Newsome. [00:06:21] What the heck is going on with this? [00:06:23] What does he think he's going to [00:06:23] accomplish? Is this just all about 2028 [00:06:25] for him? [00:06:29] >> Uh I I think it is. He's bird dogging. [00:06:31] He's trying to get his name out there. [00:06:33] He wants people to put him in the same [00:06:34] conversation as Trump. He's trying to [00:06:36] put himself on the same level as uh Mark [00:06:39] Carney Trudeau. He is here as well. [00:06:41] Actually, Alex Soros just walked by a [00:06:43] couple of minutes ago. I saw him just [00:06:44] kind of darting out the uh out the way [00:06:46] before he could see me. And uh funny [00:06:48] enough, I I actually went up to that [00:06:49] that interview where I you know, he was [00:06:51] coming out here doing a gaggle. I walked [00:06:53] up, you know, his his press guy was [00:06:55] trying to say, "Oh, no, Jack. No, not [00:06:57] him. Not Pobic." I said, "A you know, [00:06:58] guys, it'll be fine. Let me in." And I [00:07:01] asked him a question. Do you have any [00:07:03] comment regarding Don Lemon and the [00:07:06] agitators at the Minneapolis church up [00:07:08] there in uh when they were barging in? [00:07:10] He said he hadn't heard about it. I [00:07:12] explained the situation. Once again, he [00:07:14] said he hadn't heard about it. So, well, [00:07:16] we we'll see what kind of what kind of [00:07:18] situation that is. But I did very [00:07:19] quickly um you know, he caught my name [00:07:21] and I I saw this press guy sort of [00:07:23] saying, "Oh, that's Jack Pobic." And I I [00:07:25] mentioned to him, I said, "Hey, hey, [00:07:26] Governor Newsome, I was friends with [00:07:27] Charlie." And and and Gavin, you know, [00:07:29] he kind of kind of touched his heart for [00:07:31] a second there and he said he said, [00:07:33] "Wow, wow." And um you know, I think [00:07:35] that was a really, you know, really [00:07:36] humanizing moment. I remember Charlie [00:07:38] and he had had that that incredible [00:07:39] interview that they had done together. [00:07:41] there. So, I thought it maybe a little [00:07:42] little way to break the ice a little