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[00:00:00] All right, you guys. I'll get right into
[00:00:01] this. A couple of weeks ago, I received
[00:00:04] a letter that changed my life. Certainly
[00:00:06] changed the course of my life in
[00:00:08] politics. And I am going to read you
[00:00:11] that letter now and let you know that
[00:00:13] the author of it is sitting across from
[00:00:15] me.
[00:00:17] It reads, "My name is Philip Turney. I
[00:00:20] am 77 years old today. On June 8th,
[00:00:23] 1967, I was just 20 years old when the
[00:00:26] gallant crew of the USS Liberty was
[00:00:28] savagely attacked.
[00:00:30] Our American flag was proudly flying on
[00:00:33] our ship in the Mediterranean Sea that
[00:00:35] day. The designation AGTR5
[00:00:38] was clearly painted on the bow, port,
[00:00:40] and starboard sides. USS Liberty was
[00:00:43] written in English on her stern. When we
[00:00:46] arrived on June 7th, we were overflown
[00:00:48] by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft, and
[00:00:51] the same activity was repeated on the
[00:00:53] morning of June 8th. We were positively
[00:00:55] identified as American and friendly by
[00:00:57] the IDF. We had requested a destroyer
[00:01:00] escort long before we entered the
[00:01:02] Mediterranean, but we were denied twice.
[00:01:04] Our captain assured us that we were
[00:01:06] clearly marked as American, and we
[00:01:08] therefore had nothing to fear. We were
[00:01:10] alone 12 and a half miles off the coast
[00:01:13] of the Sinai Peninsula, always in
[00:01:14] international waters. The Israeli
[00:01:17] reconnaissance aircraft were clearly
[00:01:18] marked with the Star of David. We
[00:01:20] therefore felt secure seeing a flying
[00:01:23] box car and other smaller recon
[00:01:24] propeller aircraft taking good care of
[00:01:26] us. The attack began at 2:00 on a
[00:01:30] beautiful bright sunny day by Frenchmade
[00:01:32] Mirage and Mr. Aayjets painted black
[00:01:34] with no markings. We had no clue who was
[00:01:37] attacking us, but assumed it was an Arab
[00:01:39] state. During the first pass by, the
[00:01:42] jets took out all but one of our
[00:01:43] transmitting antennas, as well as every
[00:01:46] watertight door above the water line.
[00:01:49] The air attack lasted about 25 minutes,
[00:01:51] killing and maming our firefighters and
[00:01:53] any sailor who moved. Our radio man took
[00:01:56] one antenna offline, so it wasn't
[00:01:58] transmitting and wasn't hit. He ran a
[00:02:01] long wire to it, and the SOS went out to
[00:02:03] the sixth fleet. It was even picked up
[00:02:05] as far away as Vietnam.
[00:02:08] Rockstar. Rockstar under attack by an
[00:02:10] unknown jet aircraft. Help us. Help us.
[00:02:14] Captain Tully, skipper of the USS
[00:02:16] Saratoga, sent jets to come to our aid.
[00:02:19] Before the jets hit the horizon, they
[00:02:20] were recalled by Secretary of Defense
[00:02:23] Robert McNamera.
[00:02:25] Captain Enen of the USS America in Tully
[00:02:28] relaunched more aircraft to aid us. They
[00:02:30] were also recalled, this time by Lynden
[00:02:33] Baines Johnson himself. He said, quote,
[00:02:36] "I don't care about a few dead sailors.
[00:02:38] I will not embarrass my ally, Israel.
[00:02:41] Return to base immediately." End quote.
[00:02:44] How did he know who was attacking us if
[00:02:46] we did not?
[00:02:48] We were set up by our own government to
[00:02:50] let a foreign government have their way
[00:02:51] with us. The IDF even dropped Napol on
[00:02:55] the bridge of our ship. How low they
[00:02:57] would go, we would soon find out.
[00:03:00] Three motor torpedo boats headed our way
[00:03:02] and one torpedo hit our starboard side.
[00:03:04] We saw the Star of David on the boats.
[00:03:06] They were there to sink us. The attack
[00:03:09] continued for another hour and a half.
[00:03:12] Attacking jet aircraft destroyed all but
[00:03:14] three of our life rafts which we had put
[00:03:16] overboard. We were going to place our
[00:03:19] most seriously wounded in them so that
[00:03:21] they would have a chance at life. But
[00:03:22] the IDF would have none of that. They
[00:03:25] shot two of them out of the water and
[00:03:26] took one aboard their boats as a trophy
[00:03:28] of the kill. They continued shooting and
[00:03:31] killing my mates. They left and we
[00:03:33] thought that it was over, but it wasn't.
[00:03:35] IDF helicopters were sent with troops
[00:03:37] armed and ready to board our ship and
[00:03:39] finish us off. Then they just left. I
[00:03:42] guess the gig was up when the mighty IDF
[00:03:44] could not sink our defenseless ship.
[00:03:47] When it was all done, there were over
[00:03:49] 821 rocket and cannon holes and over
[00:03:52] 5,000 armor-piercing bullets riddling
[00:03:55] the ship. Napom was burning us up, and a
[00:03:58] 40x4 ft torpedo hole was in her side,
[00:04:01] causing the ship to list badly to our
[00:04:03] starboard side. We then waited 17 hours
[00:04:07] for help. I guess they hoped that we
[00:04:09] would sink that night. Help was only 40
[00:04:11] minutes away from us, but they left us
[00:04:13] out alone to die. When the USS America
[00:04:16] and the USS Davis arrived to help us,
[00:04:18] they took our wounded to care for them.
[00:04:20] Their wounds were so horrific words
[00:04:22] cannot explain. Admiral Kiddboarded our
[00:04:25] ship a few days later, and the cover up
[00:04:27] immediately began.
[00:04:29] We were ordered to never speak of the
[00:04:31] attack to anyone, not even with one
[00:04:32] another. Penalties would be fines,
[00:04:35] imprisonment, or worse. And we all knew
[00:04:37] that worse meant death. We have been
[00:04:39] treated like garbage for the last 57
[00:04:41] years. Congress has been bought and paid
[00:04:44] for with the exception over the years of
[00:04:46] a few brave lawmakers. Their names are
[00:04:48] representatives Pete McCloskkey, Paul
[00:04:50] Finley, and Jim Trafficant.
[00:04:53] As the courageous Rep Thomas Massie has
[00:04:55] noted, all Republican members of
[00:04:57] Congress except for him have Apac
[00:04:59] handlers. We can assume this is also
[00:05:01] true of nearly all Democrats. We are the
[00:05:04] most decorated ship in naval history for
[00:05:06] a single engagement. I believe God saved
[00:05:08] us that day to allow us to communicate
[00:05:10] the truth of this attack to leaders like
[00:05:12] you. We give all power to Jesus Christ.
[00:05:15] We are just his servants that horrible
[00:05:17] day and now. The USS Liberty survivors
[00:05:20] are the biggest whistleblowers this
[00:05:21] country has ever seen. We have been
[00:05:23] smeared as anti-Semitic Jew haters and
[00:05:26] Nazis. Our only sin is that we survived.
[00:05:30] We didn't kill anyone. Israel did all
[00:05:32] the murdering that day and the US
[00:05:34] government did all the covering up. I'm
[00:05:37] asking you to help us save America by
[00:05:38] telling other the facts about the
[00:05:39] slaughter of my mates. We are begging
[00:05:42] you to support us. Respectfully, Phil
[00:05:44] Turney, the president of the USS Liberty
[00:05:46] Veterans Association.
[00:05:50] Great honor to have you here today.
[00:05:52] Well, thank you, Candace. It's a great
[00:05:53] honor for me to be here and uh represent
[00:05:56] the gallant crew of the USS Liberty that
[00:06:00] have been uh treated so badly, as I said
[00:06:02] in the letter, for 57 years.
[00:06:05] So, I just want to start um just really
[00:06:07] at the beginning, I guess. When did you
[00:06:09] sign up to be in the United States
[00:06:11] military?
[00:06:12] I joined the Navy at 17 years old at uh
[00:06:16] San Diego, California. That's where I
[00:06:18] went to boot camp.
[00:06:20] I did two tours Vietnam uh before I got
[00:06:23] aboard the USS Liberty.
[00:06:26] And uh I did three tours with her
[00:06:28] including her last.
[00:06:31] So, um that's that was my naval career.
[00:06:33] And I got out of the Navy and then uh I
[00:06:37] wasn't working at the time. I thought
[00:06:39] I'd never go back in because why would I
[00:06:42] go back into a place where people are
[00:06:44] going to try to kill me, but I wasn't
[00:06:46] working. Had I had baby. So I went back
[00:06:49] in and I got aboard the USS Maddox DG731
[00:06:53] which was in the Tonkan Gulf which was
[00:06:56] another false flag.
[00:06:58] Wow. So just as a question, I mean most
[00:07:01] people I just being in the Vietnam War,
[00:07:04] I mean that was traumatizing enough
[00:07:07] obviously. So you came back and you
[00:07:09] decided that you were still going to
[00:07:11] serve the country. Uh when exactly did
[00:07:14] you find out that you were going to be
[00:07:15] aboard the USS Liberty?
[00:07:18] I found out when I got orders uh to go
[00:07:20] to the U east coast from the west coast.
[00:07:23] I was on an ammunition ship then. USS uh
[00:07:27] Monakia AE22.
[00:07:30] I said, "Well, great. I'm going away to
[00:07:32] the east coast and I always wanted to go
[00:07:34] there anyway." So, I ended up on the
[00:07:37] Liberty. When I got aboard the Liberty,
[00:07:40] they said it was a ship that mapped the
[00:07:42] bottom of the ocean. And I said, "Wow,
[00:07:44] how could that be when all the antennas
[00:07:46] are going straight up?"
[00:07:48] But I was a dumb kid. I believed
[00:07:50] anything they told me until a few months
[00:07:52] after that, and I said, "No, no, this
[00:07:54] ain't right. We're a spy ship. Okay. So,
[00:07:56] they initially said to you, they didn't
[00:07:58] even you're serving on a ship and they
[00:08:00] don't even tell you the truth about why
[00:08:02] you're there. So, here you are and
[00:08:03] they're like, "You're just here to map
[00:08:05] the bottom of the ocean."
[00:08:07] Yes, that's what they told me.
[00:08:08] Okay.
[00:08:09] Well, there were two different crews
[00:08:10] aboard that ship. There were 200 spies,
[00:08:13] CIA, NSA spies, and I was in ship's
[00:08:16] company, engineering, and there were
[00:08:18] hundred of us and with the other guys,
[00:08:20] boss mates, cooks, things like that to
[00:08:23] run the ship. Our only job, Candace, was
[00:08:26] to make sure that the communication
[00:08:28] technicians got where they had to go
[00:08:31] so they could they could do their deal.
[00:08:33] Okay. And so when did you notice or I
[00:08:35] guess when did it become apparent to
[00:08:37] you? How long had you been aboard before
[00:08:39] you went I don't really think that we're
[00:08:40] here to map the bottom of the ocean? Did
[00:08:42] they tell you, hey, I'm actually in the
[00:08:44] CIA or I'm in the NSA?
[00:08:46] No, they they didn't they didn't talk to
[00:08:48] us and we didn't talk to them. We
[00:08:49] weren't allowed to.
[00:08:50] Okay. And so it was two two different
[00:08:52] crews and I I you know we figured it out
[00:08:56] pretty quick what was going on you know
[00:08:58] but um yeah it was it was so secret I
[00:09:01] mean everything was secret very very
[00:09:03] secret
[00:09:04] and did you just wondering how the setup
[00:09:07] is are you sharing a room with four or
[00:09:09] five people? How does that work on the
[00:09:11] ship?
[00:09:12] Well I was in a a bunk room with um
[00:09:15] about uh 70 men.
[00:09:18] 70 men in one room. Mhm.
[00:09:20] Wow. Okay.
[00:09:21] Yeah, that was engineering spaces. And
[00:09:23] up forward was the uh Bosamates. That's
[00:09:26] where they had their birthing. The
[00:09:27] spikes, the spies were in the back of
[00:09:30] the ship.
[00:09:30] Okay. And so what's a typical day like?
[00:09:33] Typical day was get up, take a shower,
[00:09:37] uh go to chiao, go to work, stand your
[00:09:40] watches. And uh when we were out of see,
[00:09:43] we had sunbathe a lot cuz you know we
[00:09:46] were only always off the coast of Africa
[00:09:49] and we were doing reconnaissance there
[00:09:52] up and down the coast four or five miles
[00:09:54] an hour all the time. And we just go up
[00:09:57] and down and up and down. We go to
[00:09:58] ports, different ports, uh, Lwanda,
[00:10:02] uh, Angola, um, Abigan, you name it. All
[00:10:06] the ports on the west west coast.
[00:10:07] So, it's beautiful.
[00:10:08] Oh my, was it ever great taste,
[00:10:13] pineapples, everything. It was great. I
[00:10:15] love those people. They were good to us.
[00:10:16] And you're you're also thinking, this is
[00:10:18] very low risk. You're going, "Hey, in
[00:10:20] terms of having an engagement, I'm being
[00:10:22] sent out here. It's beautiful weather.
[00:10:24] We're sunbathing. Things are things are
[00:10:26] looking up." Yeah, things are was great.
[00:10:28] I mean, it was good duty. It was great
[00:10:30] duty. But on the last cruise, um,
[00:10:35] we were headed to Africa again just like
[00:10:37] we always did.
[00:10:39] We stopped in Abigen
[00:10:41] and, uh, this was, uh, in June.
[00:10:46] And we got emergency orders to leave. We
[00:10:48] had just gotten there. We got emergency
[00:10:50] orders to leave. Get everybody back
[00:10:53] aboard ship ASAP.
[00:10:56] And we took off for points. We had no
[00:10:58] idea where we were going. But the six
[00:11:00] day war was was going on.
[00:11:02] Okay.
[00:11:03] And we didn't know it.
[00:11:04] Oh, you didn't know it was going on?
[00:11:06] No, not not till a little bit later.
[00:11:08] Okay. Okay. So, at this point, and just
[00:11:10] to be clear, how long had you been
[00:11:12] aboard the USS Liberty?
[00:11:14] Uh, I did uh a little over two and a
[00:11:17] half years on the Liberty.
[00:11:18] Oh, I didn't realize it was that long.
[00:11:20] Yeah.
[00:11:20] You had seasick. Not seasick at all
[00:11:22] then. I guess
[00:11:22] I got seasick every time I went out
[00:11:25] for about a week and then it was gone.
[00:11:28] Okay.
[00:11:29] So now you you you get these emergency
[00:11:31] orders and you have no idea where you're
[00:11:34] going. Uh they're are they giving you
[00:11:36] any information or they're just saying
[00:11:37] it's an emergency. Everybody get back
[00:11:39] in.
[00:11:40] Everybody get back in. And we headed uh
[00:11:43] to Road to Spain. We we picked up uh
[00:11:46] three Marines. Uh they were linguists
[00:11:50] and uh a civilian Allan Blue. He was a u
[00:11:54] he he was killed by the way. Uh he was
[00:11:57] another linguist but he worked directly
[00:11:59] for the uh NSA.
[00:12:01] Okay. Okay. So he gets on board. You're
[00:12:04] in Spain now. And then where do you go?
[00:12:06] We head into the Mediterranean uh you
[00:12:09] know and to uh go through the Rocket
[00:12:11] Jalter and all that. And
[00:12:14] all the ships were going this way going
[00:12:16] the other way. And we were the only one
[00:12:18] going that way.
[00:12:19] Okay. And still no nobody's informing
[00:12:21] you about the six- day war.
[00:12:23] Yeah, we did find out that we were going
[00:12:25] into a war zone.
[00:12:26] Okay. And what information, if any, did
[00:12:28] they give you?
[00:12:29] None.
[00:12:30] None. You're just going into a war zone.
[00:12:33] Prepare for anything?
[00:12:35] No, we were prepared. Uh cuz our our
[00:12:39] captain, Captain McGomery,
[00:12:41] we we trained all the time for for you
[00:12:44] know u different situations, chemical
[00:12:47] drills, fire, all kinds of different
[00:12:49] stuff.
[00:12:51] And what's the general mood as you guys
[00:12:52] are heading towards there? The
[00:12:54] conversation between you and your
[00:12:55] shipmates,
[00:12:57] apprehension. Um in fact, we had the
[00:13:00] Star David. We knew what was going on
[00:13:02] then. The people had Star Davids all
[00:13:05] over the ship, inside the ship, hoping
[00:13:07] the Israel would win because they were
[00:13:11] our best buddies in the whole wide
[00:13:12] world. And um
[00:13:16] come to find out they weren't.
[00:13:19] So now it's June 7th. Is is that
[00:13:22] correct? When you arrive into the Sinai
[00:13:23] Peninsula.
[00:13:24] Right. We get well we were uh we got
[00:13:27] there on the 7th and the Israelis
[00:13:29] started overflying us then taking
[00:13:32] pictures of us. Same thing happened on
[00:13:35] the June the 8th uh flying box car which
[00:13:38] is a two engine plane. The doors were
[00:13:41] open. You could see the cameraman taking
[00:13:44] pictures of us.
[00:13:44] So they're that close. They're that low.
[00:13:46] Oh yeah. They were you could see the
[00:13:47] pilots. We would wave at them. They'd
[00:13:49] wave at us. Very friendly. They dipped
[00:13:51] their wings like everything's great and
[00:13:53] we felt good because our best friends
[00:13:55] were there
[00:13:57] and uh we had no worries. I mean none at
[00:14:01] all uh because they were going to
[00:14:03] protect us
[00:14:05] but it ended up they didn't.
[00:14:07] So you had described in your letter um
[00:14:11] saying that you you had the American
[00:14:13] flag displayed. Can you describe for me
[00:14:16] first and foremost again reiterate where
[00:14:18] it was displayed and also how large the
[00:14:20] flag was?
[00:14:21] Right. It was on the mast and uh
[00:14:25] the flag was brand new as a 5 by8 uh
[00:14:29] flag very visible. It was 12 knots going
[00:14:32] over across the deck. You could see the
[00:14:34] flag and in fact the Israelis identified
[00:14:37] us as American and friendly.
[00:14:39] How do you know that? Well, we know it
[00:14:41] because of uh the intercept we picked up
[00:14:45] and they admitted it themselves.
[00:14:48] Uh we were on their war table. They
[00:14:50] identified us as American
[00:14:53] and when they changed the watch, they
[00:14:55] forgot to tell the other watch commander
[00:14:58] that we were there. They took us off
[00:14:59] their war table. So, we no we no longer
[00:15:01] existed.
[00:15:02] Okay. When you say take you off the war
[00:15:05] war table, I'm not familiar with that
[00:15:07] lingo. Okay.
[00:15:08] So, what what does that mean? They took
[00:15:10] us off the war.
[00:15:11] Well, uh on on the war table, they have
[00:15:14] like uh different ships or different
[00:15:17] like literally set up the table that
[00:15:19] shows you
[00:15:19] right and what's going on. And they they
[00:15:21] they took us off. So we were all but we
[00:15:24] were gone to them.
[00:15:26] Mhm.
[00:15:26] They they thought and but they knew
[00:15:30] exactly what they were doing. Exactly
[00:15:32] what they were doing. When they overflow
[00:15:33] us, they took the pictures of all the
[00:15:36] ship. They knew exactly what to hit and
[00:15:38] when to hit. And I might add, uh, I I I
[00:15:43] believe and I think most my shipmates
[00:15:45] believe that this attack was planned a
[00:15:46] year in advance.
[00:15:48] A year in advance?
[00:15:49] Yes.
[00:15:49] What makes you say that?
[00:15:51] Well, uh,
[00:15:54] there was another spy ship in the area,
[00:15:56] USS or SS Bald. It was a civilian man
[00:16:01] ship, but it was owned by the Navy. They
[00:16:03] could have done the same thing that that
[00:16:04] we were doing, but they they took them
[00:16:06] out of the area.
[00:16:09] Sinking the USS Liberty is a hell of a
[00:16:11] lot sexier than sinking the Valdis.
[00:16:14] Why is that?
[00:16:15] Well, it's it's all American sailors and
[00:16:19] marines. They wanted this at the bottom
[00:16:22] so they could blame it on the Arab
[00:16:24] states and bring us into World War II.
[00:16:26] Okay. So, let me ask you a question.
[00:16:29] Now, it's the morning of the 8th and you
[00:16:34] you like you said on the 7th, they took
[00:16:36] pictures. They positively identified
[00:16:38] you. You were able to hear this over the
[00:16:41] radio. Um, did they still have at that
[00:16:45] moment the CIA agents on board?
[00:16:47] Yes. Yes.
[00:16:48] The NSA agents were on board. So, you
[00:16:50] still got the exact same amount of
[00:16:51] people that are on board here,
[00:16:52] right?
[00:16:53] Okay. So, we're talking about a pretty
[00:16:54] big sacrifice they were willing to make,
[00:16:56] right?
[00:16:56] Total number of people
[00:16:58] 294 souls.
[00:16:59] 294 souls. Okay. Take me through what
[00:17:02] happened on June 8th. You get up. We get
[00:17:06] up at uh 0600 and uh like I say, we go
[00:17:11] to chia and take a shower, go to jail,
[00:17:13] go to work. We had a damage control
[00:17:16] drill just before the attack, say about
[00:17:18] 1:00
[00:17:20] and I was in a damage control. I was
[00:17:22] assistant on scene leader in damage
[00:17:24] control
[00:17:26] and I was in an impregnated suit, which
[00:17:28] is a suit uh for washing down the ship
[00:17:31] of chemicals.
[00:17:33] And it was very very hot that day. I
[00:17:35] mean, 100° on the deck, easy or more.
[00:17:39] And I was I thought I was going to pass
[00:17:40] out. It was so hot. Finally, it was over
[00:17:42] with. And I went and stowed my gear.
[00:17:45] Excuse me. The um soundpowered phones
[00:17:48] were working on the Starry gun mount.
[00:17:51] The sound?
[00:17:52] Yeah, they're they're soundpowered
[00:17:55] phones, you know, from uh ju just like,
[00:17:59] you know, you could put on headphones,
[00:18:01] but they were sound powered. They
[00:18:03] weren't electrical. And uh for some
[00:18:06] reason it wasn't working.
[00:18:09] And I went to the IC shop and I got a a
[00:18:13] friend of mine, David Skolak. He was an
[00:18:15] ICman and that was his job. Take care of
[00:18:17] the IC uh system there for sound powered
[00:18:21] phones and the IC system uh intercoms on
[00:18:25] the ship.
[00:18:27] And he came up there and the gunner's
[00:18:29] mate was up there also. They were
[00:18:31] manning the guns. We were in a condition
[00:18:33] three just in case cuz we could see the
[00:18:35] bombs going off and everything on on the
[00:18:39] um Sinai. So we thought, you know, this
[00:18:42] is really not a good place to be. And um
[00:18:47] just as soon as I left that gun mount,
[00:18:49] about
[00:18:52] 30 seconds after I left it, I got back
[00:18:55] to my workstation and every all hell
[00:18:57] broke loose. The attack began.
[00:19:02] What's the um first thing you remember?
[00:19:05] First thing I remember was um all hands
[00:19:08] get to your general quarter station. So,
[00:19:10] we're under attack. We're under attack.
[00:19:13] And I got to my GQ station, which is in
[00:19:16] uh the front part of the ship.
[00:19:19] And those two men that I just left
[00:19:21] there,
[00:19:23] not a minute it took me to get back up
[00:19:25] there, they were dead. They're blown to
[00:19:27] bits. Anything that moved aboard that
[00:19:30] ship, they were shot at.
[00:19:33] As in the letter, they they took out all
[00:19:35] all of our antennas within three
[00:19:38] seconds. Our four 50 caliber machine
[00:19:40] guns were gone. Every watertight door
[00:19:42] was was hit. And this went on for 25
[00:19:47] minutes dropping napom on us. Uh I mean
[00:19:54] 25 minutes of that. You can't imagine
[00:19:56] every every second was like an hour.
[00:19:58] There was nowhere to hide, nowhere to
[00:20:00] run. And you got you got people severely
[00:20:03] blown up, wounded badly badly.
[00:20:07] And it continued and continued continued
[00:20:09] for 25 30 minutes. And then there there
[00:20:13] was a lull.
[00:20:16] The tor we saw the torpedo boats coming.
[00:20:20] We thought the Star David, you know, oh,
[00:20:22] good. Because these were unmarked jet
[00:20:24] aircraft. We we didn't know who was
[00:20:25] attacking us. We thought it was the
[00:20:27] Arabs
[00:20:29] and then we saw the torpedo boats and
[00:20:31] that Star David, oh man, here's our best
[00:20:34] friends are going to come help us. No,
[00:20:36] they come to sink us.
[00:20:39] When you talk about um them dropping
[00:20:42] Napal and so they did this immediately.
[00:20:45] What does that do for people that are
[00:20:46] not aware? What what is the purpose of
[00:20:49] that and how how does the body react to
[00:20:52] napal chemical agent?
[00:20:55] It can burn you sever severely and it
[00:20:58] also um can explode your lungs
[00:21:02] very very hot. I tried to go up and put
[00:21:05] it out with CO2 and I couldn't do it.
[00:21:08] They shot up all our fire hoses too. We
[00:21:11] had no no way to fight fires with water
[00:21:14] at all. They shot them all up
[00:21:18] instantly in that in that first 25
[00:21:19] minutes. Yes.
[00:21:20] So they took out uh
[00:21:22] everything
[00:21:23] the antennas instantly, the fire hoses
[00:21:25] instantly, so you couldn't take out
[00:21:26] fire. And during those 25 minutes, what
[00:21:30] were you doing specifically?
[00:21:32] I was uh getting people off deck, taken
[00:21:36] to a triage in the mess decks. Uh the
[00:21:39] whole mess decks was full of people
[00:21:41] laying on the tables on the floor. It
[00:21:44] was a sea of broken and bloodied men.
[00:21:48] And it uh continued like that for like I
[00:21:52] say for
[00:21:53] the entire attack, you know, and then
[00:21:56] the torpedo boats got up to us. They
[00:21:58] did, you know, they fired five torpedoes
[00:22:00] at us.
[00:22:02] So
[00:22:03] all the antennas are taken out, 25
[00:22:06] minutes has passed and
[00:22:09] there's they're obviously assuming that
[00:22:12] you can't communicate your distress.
[00:22:14] Um you indicated in your letter was it
[00:22:17] before the torpedoes that fortunately
[00:22:20] somebody had taken one
[00:22:23] one of those offline
[00:22:24] Terry Alabardier is a third class
[00:22:27] radioman. He strung a long wire to the
[00:22:31] only ant he took that antenna off line
[00:22:34] because it wasn't working. So they did
[00:22:37] they didn't hit it because they were
[00:22:39] using heat seeeking missiles to hit all
[00:22:41] the antennas
[00:22:43] because when they're tuning they they
[00:22:45] they threw off heat and they they took
[00:22:48] them all out except that one and and he
[00:22:51] got Thank God. I mean there's there's
[00:22:54] reasons for all this happened and uh he
[00:22:57] got hooked up rockstar rockstar and like
[00:23:00] I said it went went to Vietnam the sixth
[00:23:02] fleet picked it up they automatically
[00:23:05] sent aircraft from Saratoga
[00:23:08] uh and Captain Tully and before they
[00:23:11] even hit the ri horizon mammer says
[00:23:14] bring those aircraft back do not help
[00:23:16] Liberty turn around. So, our Secretary
[00:23:20] of Defense, I mean, this attack could in
[00:23:22] theory since he was able to get that
[00:23:25] message out. In theory, the attack could
[00:23:28] have been over. How long after it
[00:23:31] started?
[00:23:33] Well, almost immediately. In fact, they
[00:23:36] they could have saved 25 brave American
[00:23:39] lives. All spies that got killed when
[00:23:41] the torpedo hit.
[00:23:42] But instead,
[00:23:43] if they would have just let those planes
[00:23:45] come help us. But that wasn't the deal.
[00:23:47] We were set up by our own government to
[00:23:49] die.
[00:23:50] So, Robert McNamera who in interviews
[00:23:54] thereafter says he doesn't remember a
[00:23:56] single thing that happened that day.
[00:23:57] That's what he told the Chicago Tribune.
[00:23:59] He doesn't remember anything that
[00:24:00] happened that day. He recalls them back.
[00:24:03] Um,
[00:24:05] and
[00:24:06] then what happened? Then the America and
[00:24:10] Tully re reconfigured their aircraft and
[00:24:12] they sent aircraft again because they
[00:24:14] they went to a different command. They
[00:24:17] wanted it was their prerogative to go to
[00:24:18] a different higher
[00:24:21] because they're thinking what do you
[00:24:22] mean pull us back like our American
[00:24:24] and then uh LBJ gets on the phone and
[00:24:28] his exact words were is I don't give a
[00:24:31] GD if all those sailors die. I'm not
[00:24:33] going to embarrass my ally Israel like I
[00:24:36] said in the letter. Now, how did he know
[00:24:38] that if we didn't know it, who was
[00:24:39] attacking us?
[00:24:41] So, they then have the president of the
[00:24:43] United States. So, these this guy's
[00:24:45] trying to do the right thing, Captain
[00:24:46] Tully. He's like, "We're going to help
[00:24:47] them." He gets called back by the
[00:24:48] secretary of defense. He's thinking,
[00:24:50] "I'm going to go over his head cuz this
[00:24:51] is crazy." And now the president of the
[00:24:54] United States is saying, "I don't care.
[00:24:58] I don't give a GD. If they die, I am not
[00:25:01] going to embarrass our friend and ally,
[00:25:03] Israel." So, he knew.
[00:25:05] He knew. And you know, uh, they
[00:25:07] destroyed Captain Tolley's career, too.
[00:25:09] They fired him. He got fired for doing
[00:25:11] that. He was a World War II, uh, fighter
[00:25:15] pilot, very, very highly decorated,
[00:25:19] good man. In fact, he come to one of our
[00:25:22] reunions and broke down like a baby and
[00:25:24] cried, said, "I'm sorry. I couldn't help
[00:25:27] you."
[00:25:30] It wouldn't love me. And he he took that
[00:25:32] to his grave. He just it was he was a
[00:25:35] broken man.
[00:25:36] Wow. I can't even imagine what he went
[00:25:38] through.
[00:25:39] Yeah.
[00:25:39] Having to follow orders when the orders
[00:25:41] were so demonic.
[00:25:44] Yes. Absolutely.
[00:25:46] So he gets called back again. This time
[00:25:49] it's from the president of the United
[00:25:50] States. And now you are seeing torpedo
[00:25:53] boats with the Star of David. Now, now
[00:25:57] you guys know and you're thinking,
[00:25:59] "Amazing. We're about to get saved.
[00:26:01] We've got these flags inside. We know
[00:26:04] who these guys are. We don't know who's
[00:26:06] attacking us, but we know these are our
[00:26:07] friends.
[00:26:08] When did that when did you notice? Wait
[00:26:11] a second. Something's not right here.
[00:26:14] When the U old man said, "Prepare for
[00:26:17] torpedo hit star side."
[00:26:20] I saw two torpedoes go um aft.
[00:26:24] Where the other two went, I don't know,
[00:26:26] but I know where one of them went.
[00:26:29] that hit in the communication uh spaces
[00:26:32] and killed 25 brave young men.
[00:26:37] And that's that's one of the reasons I'm
[00:26:38] here today to be their voice because
[00:26:42] they we're not going to let them die in
[00:26:44] vain. This there's you know there's only
[00:26:47] there's not many survivors left. They're
[00:26:49] dying out
[00:26:51] and u it's our duty as Americans and
[00:26:55] patriots to take care of them and make
[00:26:57] sure their lives didn't die in vain. And
[00:27:00] you know, um,
[00:27:02] all presidents and all Congress,
[00:27:05] including Donald Trump,
[00:27:08] has not done anything for us.
[00:27:12] They're beholden to the Zionist state,
[00:27:14] Apac.
[00:27:16] You know, uh, Donald Trump's a new
[00:27:18] president again. I call on Donald Trump
[00:27:21] to help us.
[00:27:24] I mean, we gave our lives and our blood
[00:27:25] for this country at the hands of the
[00:27:28] Zionists, Israel.
[00:27:31] And does he stand with Israel or does he
[00:27:33] stand with the United States fighting
[00:27:35] men that were slaughtered that day by
[00:27:37] the Zionist state covered up same
[00:27:40] mistaken identity?
[00:27:42] I call on you, President Trump, to give
[00:27:44] the USS Liberty the same courtesy we
[00:27:47] deserve or any fighting man that was
[00:27:49] killed that day. But we don't get it
[00:27:52] because Israel did it. It's fine as long
[00:27:54] as Israel did. It's everybody. It's
[00:27:55] fine. It was a mistaken identity. It
[00:27:57] wasn't. Admiral Moore, he had the Moore
[00:27:59] report. It's a very, very detailed
[00:28:02] report. He's the longest serving admiral
[00:28:04] in the United States Navy. He served as
[00:28:07] the European commander in the Pacific
[00:28:09] Commander and two two times as chairman
[00:28:11] of Joint Chiefs. And he says, "I'll
[00:28:14] never believe it was a mistaken
[00:28:17] identity." And he called he called on
[00:28:18] Congress
[00:28:20] uh over and over to have an
[00:28:21] investigation. Congress says there there
[00:28:24] already has been an investigation. There
[00:28:26] never has been. There's been a a board
[00:28:29] of inquiry by uh Admiral Isaac Kid and
[00:28:33] his uh bos or his underling uh JAG
[00:28:36] officer board Boston. They completed
[00:28:39] that investigation in seven days. Should
[00:28:41] have taken a year.
[00:28:43] They never even talked to Israel. They
[00:28:45] took Israel's word instead of ours.
[00:28:48] So you're watching. You're on this boat.
[00:28:50] you see this torpedo hit. That torpedo
[00:28:53] instantly kills 25 servicemen
[00:28:56] um and
[00:28:58] you escape fortunately um are able to
[00:29:02] escape this. What is going on in your
[00:29:04] mind? Because I just am thinking of that
[00:29:07] moment of consciousness when you think
[00:29:09] you're going to be saved because you see
[00:29:10] your friend and your ally and then
[00:29:12] suddenly you realize that your friend
[00:29:14] and your ally is actually killing you
[00:29:16] and they're in torpedo boats. So there's
[00:29:19] no way they're they're they know this is
[00:29:20] an American ship,
[00:29:21] right?
[00:29:23] What's going on in your mind and
[00:29:25] emotionally in that moment if you could
[00:29:27] take yourself back? Like how that
[00:29:28] conscious switch of wait a second, this
[00:29:30] is not my friend. I'm being betrayed.
[00:29:34] Well, I think Jesus Christ would would
[00:29:36] know a lot about betrayal.
[00:29:38] And we bet we were betrayed. And um
[00:29:43] I think that's one of the reasons I'm
[00:29:45] here is because Jesus Christ didn't want
[00:29:47] us to die that day. He wanted us Well, I
[00:29:50] I'll put it this way. God saved us from
[00:29:53] God's chosen people. That's what he did.
[00:29:56] Exactly what he did.
[00:29:59] We put over three life rafts. That's all
[00:30:01] we had left. They they shot all of our
[00:30:02] life rafts up. We put three over. They
[00:30:07] shot two of them. We were going to put
[00:30:08] our most seriously wounded in them so
[00:30:10] they'd have a chance at life. They shot
[00:30:12] two out of the water and took one aboard
[00:30:15] the road uh boat is a trophy of the
[00:30:16] kill. It's a Hifa somewhere.
[00:30:19] Wow. They took one aboard. So there's
[00:30:22] absolutely no way they did not know
[00:30:24] that these this was an American ship.
[00:30:27] They take one on board as a trophy.
[00:30:29] They're shooting it out. You are now
[00:30:31] realizing that you cannot help the
[00:30:33] wounded. Torpedoes are hitting you. What
[00:30:37] happens next?
[00:30:39] Well, when the torpedo hit, u
[00:30:42] we did what we could do for damage
[00:30:44] control and we like I say put over the
[00:30:46] life rafts and and they shot them out of
[00:30:48] the water and they continued and
[00:30:49] continued and continued doing that
[00:30:52] until finally they just quit. We thought
[00:30:54] it was we thought it was over, but it
[00:30:55] wasn't. They sent over troop carrying
[00:30:58] helicopters with Marines in it to board
[00:31:01] our ship, scuttle the ship and u
[00:31:05] and kill us all. I was on the main deck
[00:31:07] when they when they were coming over.
[00:31:09] What is your condition at that moment?
[00:31:11] Where like what were you doing on the
[00:31:12] main deck?
[00:31:13] I was on the main deck trying to still
[00:31:15] get people off the main deck.
[00:31:18] And then uh they got there and this
[00:31:21] marine, he had his foot on the skid. I
[00:31:23] thought they were going to come down in
[00:31:24] a rope or a ladder or whatever.
[00:31:27] And I just gave him the finger
[00:31:30] and he gave it right back to me and just
[00:31:32] smiled.
[00:31:34] This is an IDF soldier. He smiled at
[00:31:36] you.
[00:31:36] Smiling.
[00:31:38] Great big smile. And they just they just
[00:31:40] took off. The gig was up. I mean, they
[00:31:43] they they confessed. Well, mistaken
[00:31:45] identity. He thought it was the elazir
[00:31:47] what was a h a horse transport
[00:31:51] and uh enemy ship
[00:31:54] that's what they said and that was their
[00:31:55] excuse and they got by with it because
[00:31:57] of a crooked government then and now.
[00:32:00] I just can't even imagine this. So
[00:32:02] you're watching
[00:32:04] your mates die bleeding torpedo nap bomb
[00:32:07] and you make eye contact with this guy
[00:32:09] thinking he's going to board the ship.
[00:32:10] You give him the finger and he gives you
[00:32:11] the finger back and smiles at you.
[00:32:13] Mhm. And then they leave.
[00:32:16] They leave. And um we were left there
[00:32:19] for out there for 17 hours for help.
[00:32:21] This is the part that is so shocking to
[00:32:24] me because the president of United
[00:32:26] States knows that you're under attack.
[00:32:29] The des secretary of defense knows that
[00:32:31] you're under attack.
[00:32:33] You know that as you said, Captain uh
[00:32:36] Sully Scully Tully
[00:32:39] uh tried twice to help save you. They
[00:32:42] know you're under attack and you're
[00:32:43] telling me that after they went away 17
[00:32:47] hours.
[00:32:50] Take me through what you guys did. How
[00:32:53] many people at that moment were injured,
[00:32:57] dying, what was happening on that ship
[00:32:59] for the next 72 17 hours?
[00:33:02] Well, twothirds of the crew was either
[00:33:04] dead or wounded.
[00:33:06] And u Doc Kefir, we had one one doc
[00:33:09] aboard the ship. He had been shot in the
[00:33:12] abum admiron and uh both of his le knees
[00:33:16] were shot up
[00:33:18] and he operated for 17 hours on people.
[00:33:22] I helped him in one operation a guy by
[00:33:25] the name of Gary Blanchard. He was hit
[00:33:27] he was hit bad
[00:33:29] and um he says take my socks off. My
[00:33:33] feet are hot hot. So I rubbed his feet
[00:33:37] tried to get some circulation.
[00:33:39] I went over to the side and looked at
[00:33:42] him and he says, "You think I'm going to
[00:33:43] die?"
[00:33:45] I said, "Yeah, I think you are."
[00:33:48] And uh Doc cut him open.
[00:33:51] And he he was dead.
[00:33:54] So that went on all night,
[00:33:57] put a few stitches and went throwing him
[00:33:59] and and put him over the side and just
[00:34:02] kept on doing it.
[00:34:04] What were some of the uh last words?
[00:34:09] Cuz I'm sure as you said, many people
[00:34:11] died.
[00:34:12] What did they say? I mean, what were the
[00:34:14] conversations that you recall?
[00:34:18] You know, Candace, I really didn't
[00:34:20] recall a whole lot about that. I guess I
[00:34:23] just blocked it out. Um I do know that
[00:34:26] the the uh Lieutenant Commander
[00:34:28] Armstrong, he died in the messex.
[00:34:32] Uh he was hit up bad too. But I remember
[00:34:35] I lit he he was a heavy smoker. I lit
[00:34:38] him a couple cigarettes
[00:34:40] and then I left and I came back and he
[00:34:43] was dead. So the conversation was just
[00:34:48] helping people. Everybody was ablebodied
[00:34:51] helped them. I was in the walking
[00:34:53] wounded. A lot of them were walking
[00:34:54] wounded and all they all they did was
[00:34:56] want to help their fellow shipmates.
[00:34:59] Bravest crew I've ever seen in my life.
[00:35:01] I mean, we guys come to come together
[00:35:02] like none none other.
[00:35:05] We had none to fight back with but our
[00:35:07] will and our wits and with with God's
[00:35:10] beautiful hand on us. In fact, when that
[00:35:12] ship got torpedoed, it was like the hand
[00:35:15] of God was holding us up because it was
[00:35:18] going like that ready to roll over and
[00:35:20] just stopped.
[00:35:22] Unbelievable.
[00:35:23] And you were just 20 years old. It was
[00:35:26] just unbelievable.
[00:35:27] Yes.
[00:35:28] And so 17 hours later,
[00:35:32] twothirds of the crew is dead.
[00:35:36] What happens?
[00:35:38] What ship did you see first? What was
[00:35:40] going through your mind?
[00:35:42] Well, the first first thing we saw was u
[00:35:46] several days later when Admiral Kidd got
[00:35:49] there and he he uh we told him
[00:35:51] everything what happened and why didn't
[00:35:53] you come help us and u this and that and
[00:35:57] he took off his stars. He says I'm just
[00:36:00] like your dad. He
[00:36:02] had four or five of us in a sick bay at
[00:36:04] the time.
[00:36:06] Three stars out there and he said I'm
[00:36:08] just like your dad. Please tell me
[00:36:09] everything you saw. We told them about
[00:36:12] the machining of the life rafts with the
[00:36:15] uh machining gun the people uh the
[00:36:19] helicopters everything went on
[00:36:23] and then he put his stars back on he
[00:36:25] says he got beat red and he got right in
[00:36:27] my face. I'm telling you you better
[00:36:29] never talk about this again to anybody
[00:36:31] or I'll make sure you end up in prison
[00:36:33] fin or worse. You know what worse means?
[00:36:35] I said yes sir I do.
[00:36:40] But he did that to everybody. In fact,
[00:36:43] they they split up everybody. They they
[00:36:45] took him to different bases. There was
[00:36:48] one fellow, his name is Mickey Lame.
[00:36:51] He's still got 50 pieces of shrap right
[00:36:54] now.
[00:36:56] They took him to uh Bremerhavin, Germany
[00:36:59] for medical care. He was in a room with
[00:37:02] a bunch of other people uh a lot of
[00:37:05] different beds. They took him out of
[00:37:07] that bed. He got his own room and he was
[00:37:10] interrogated by an officer. He says,
[00:37:12] "Your name is no longer Lame. It's
[00:37:13] Smith. You know nothing about the USS
[00:37:16] Liberty. Don't ever talk about it."
[00:37:20] So, you survive living hell. You watch
[00:37:24] your mates die. You wait 17 hours.
[00:37:29] And you're thinking, "Okay, at least now
[00:37:31] it's over." And instead, you guys get
[00:37:33] reprimanded
[00:37:34] and you're told essentially, "We'll kill
[00:37:37] you." Yes, it's it's absolutely in in
[00:37:41] fact I didn't talk about it until uh 40
[00:37:44] about 42 43 years ago I met my second
[00:37:49] wife. There was an article in the paper
[00:37:52] by a person by the name of
[00:37:55] oh my goodness um Stan White. He was a a
[00:38:00] chief uh master chief.
[00:38:02] And I felt like the whole world had just
[00:38:04] come off my shoulders because he was
[00:38:06] talking. If he was talking, I'm I can
[00:38:08] I'm going to start talking.
[00:38:10] And I haven't shut up since.
[00:38:12] Wow. This is just unbelievable.
[00:38:15] Unbelievable. So, you're all ordered uh
[00:38:18] into silence. And how long you said
[00:38:22] before you started speaking? How many
[00:38:24] years was that
[00:38:25] from? It was u well for see 41 uh 18
[00:38:31] years after the fact.
[00:38:32] So you actually you stayed silent on
[00:38:34] this
[00:38:34] and I I never I didn't even tell my my
[00:38:36] wife Lisa that I was uh ever in the
[00:38:40] military. I even forgot what day it
[00:38:42] happened.
[00:38:44] That's how I far back I pushed it. And
[00:38:47] uh like I saved when when I read that
[00:38:49] article, man, I was I said now I'm I'm
[00:38:52] on it. And uh I mean the whole thing is
[00:38:57] you
[00:38:59] when your own government betrays you and
[00:39:02] still betrays you and every congressman
[00:39:06] betrays you. See what you saw you really
[00:39:08] didn't see. What you heard you really
[00:39:10] didn't heard here.
[00:39:12] Uh that's pretty that's pretty bad.
[00:39:16] Uh they're calling us liars and Nazis
[00:39:18] and Jew haters. Our own Congress.
[00:39:22] And I'd like to I tell you what, I'd
[00:39:23] like to call out Charlie Kirk and Ben
[00:39:26] Shapiro
[00:39:28] with this uh conspiracy theory stuff. If
[00:39:31] you think it's a conspiracy, debate me
[00:39:33] live on TV. I'd be glad to debate you.
[00:39:36] And my shipmates will be there, too, if
[00:39:37] you want them. Debate us if if you think
[00:39:40] it's consp conspiracy theory. Or do you
[00:39:43] have the courage? I don't think you got
[00:39:44] the courage. I think you're cowards.
[00:39:48] Can I explain the USS Liberty incident?
[00:39:50] Sure. The USS Liberty incident is very
[00:39:52] frequently used by anti-semites to
[00:39:54] suggest that Israel deliberately targets
[00:39:56] American ships and then pays no penalty.
[00:39:59] So both American naval records and
[00:40:01] Israeli air force records suggest that
[00:40:04] there was a case of mistaken identity
[00:40:06] wherein USS Liberty was in the
[00:40:07] Mediterranean in a place they were not
[00:40:09] supposed to be. Israel thought that it
[00:40:10] was an Egyptian ship and shot it. That's
[00:40:13] that's the actual full story. Now there
[00:40:14] are a bunch of conspiracy theories on
[00:40:16] actually both sides of this. There's a
[00:40:18] conspiracy theory on the American side
[00:40:20] that suggests that Israel, for no reason
[00:40:23] that can be discerned, decided to shoot
[00:40:24] up an American ship to accomplish no one
[00:40:27] really can explain what. And then on the
[00:40:30] other side, there is a a theory that
[00:40:32] I've not seen a lot of support for that
[00:40:34] the USS Liberty was being used as a
[00:40:36] transmission vessel to send Israeli
[00:40:38] military locations to the Egyptians
[00:40:41] during the 67 war and Israel knew that
[00:40:42] and shot it. Again, I think the evidence
[00:40:44] is lacking on both of those things.
[00:40:46] There have been multiple naval
[00:40:47] investigations of the USS Liberty
[00:40:48] incident. They all come down on the same
[00:40:50] side, which is that this is a mistaken
[00:40:51] case of Allied quote unquote friendly
[00:40:54] fire.
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[00:42:06] I can't even imagine living through
[00:42:08] something like that and then being
[00:42:10] gaslit and told that you're liars or
[00:42:14] that you're conspiracy theorists or that
[00:42:16] as your letter said that you're Nazis or
[00:42:18] that you're Jew haters when you you went
[00:42:20] out there thinking you might be out
[00:42:22] there defending defending the state of
[00:42:25] Israel only to recognize that your
[00:42:28] country betrayed you um presumably to
[00:42:34] stage a false flag attack. Um,
[00:42:37] there was a submarine, the Russians were
[00:42:39] there, too. If our ship goes down,
[00:42:43] Israel was going to get nuked by Russia.
[00:42:47] And that's a fact.
[00:42:50] Uh, it's it's it's it's on uh tape by
[00:42:53] the by the people that were there. There
[00:42:56] were also the USS uh Andrew Jackson
[00:42:58] there and the USS Amberjack. Our
[00:43:01] submarines that didn't come help us. I
[00:43:05] heard they filmed it from the Amberjack.
[00:43:07] They probably got the film right now.
[00:43:11] Uh there's so many we got foyer requests
[00:43:15] right now from a federal judge in
[00:43:17] Washington
[00:43:19] that's going to she's going to decide
[00:43:21] whether we can get the records or not uh
[00:43:24] in a few days.
[00:43:26] And this has been going on for two or
[00:43:27] three years trying to get well it's it's
[00:43:30] been 57 years total but working on it
[00:43:34] for the last 41 42 43 years uh
[00:43:37] collectively with with the rest of the
[00:43:39] crew we've been trying to get this done
[00:43:42] and this is closest we've ever come to
[00:43:44] getting something uh you know but they
[00:43:47] don't want their records uh out the the
[00:43:50] CIA is blocking it right now. They said
[00:43:53] they they do not want to let that out.
[00:43:54] It's matter of national security. If
[00:43:56] it's so easy to explain, how could it be
[00:43:58] national security?
[00:44:00] If it's so cut and dry that they thought
[00:44:02] it was mistake, there's no mistake and
[00:44:05] we can prove it.
[00:44:07] How many survivors are still alive?
[00:44:09] Oh, I don't know. Probably 50.
[00:44:11] Just 50
[00:44:12] out of 294.
[00:44:16] So, it's uh
[00:44:19] you know, it's it's a they they just
[00:44:22] didn't attack our ship. They attacked
[00:44:24] you, you all of you guys, all of
[00:44:27] America. They attacked us. It was an act
[00:44:29] of war and war crimes and they don't
[00:44:32] they didn't want to investigate it.
[00:44:35] I want to speak a bit about Lynen Baines
[00:44:37] Johnson because there is a picture that
[00:44:39] seems to be emerging and so I guess I'll
[00:44:42] sort of ask questions because there's
[00:44:43] other big events from around that time
[00:44:45] period that are similarly classified um
[00:44:48] in a way that doesn't really make sense.
[00:44:50] you know, Lyndon Baines Johnson, the
[00:44:52] nation did not vote for him to be
[00:44:54] president of the United States.
[00:44:55] Obviously,
[00:44:56] yes.
[00:44:56] Um JFK was assassinated and it is a fact
[00:45:00] that prior to his assassination,
[00:45:03] uh he was adamant that he wanted Apac,
[00:45:07] which I think was going by a different
[00:45:08] name at that time, to register as a
[00:45:10] foreign agent and that they had ignored
[00:45:14] his demand that they register as a
[00:45:16] foreign agent. Um, and then when he was
[00:45:19] shot a couple of months later, he no
[00:45:22] longer had to register. They no longer
[00:45:24] had to register as a foreign agent. It
[00:45:27] is also a fact that leading up to his
[00:45:29] death, he was having um fights which
[00:45:32] they have not declassified, arguments
[00:45:35] with uh the prime minister of Israel at
[00:45:38] that time, uh, Bengarian. They have
[00:45:42] again not declassified any of those
[00:45:44] conversations. So, we don't know what it
[00:45:46] was that they were arguing about, but I
[00:45:48] would imagine Lyndon Baines Johnson
[00:45:50] would have known that he had this sort
[00:45:54] of contentious relationship uh obviously
[00:45:58] with them trying to implement Apac and
[00:46:01] not wanting it to be registered as a
[00:46:02] foreign agent and obviously him having
[00:46:04] arguments as a number two guy. You would
[00:46:06] think that he would know this. And
[00:46:10] before Muamar Gaddafi, the president of
[00:46:12] Libya was murdered uh by US arming
[00:46:17] insurgents, he gave a speech in front of
[00:46:19] the UN where he demanded that they
[00:46:22] investigate the killing of JFK and he
[00:46:25] said everybody knows that
[00:46:29] he was trying to stop their nuclear
[00:46:33] armament.
[00:46:35] Uh he spoke about the nuclear reactor
[00:46:37] and he had
[00:46:39] heavily suggested in that speech in the
[00:46:42] UN that that was another perhaps that
[00:46:44] could have been the reason that he was
[00:46:45] arguing with the prime minister of
[00:46:47] course we'll never know and so it's
[00:46:49] quite shocking to know that information
[00:46:51] to realize that JFK got killed and to
[00:46:55] also know that the person who allegedly
[00:46:57] shot him uh Leosald Harvey said he
[00:47:01] didn't shoot him didn't kill him and
[00:47:03] then he was shot by a guy named Jacob
[00:47:05] Rubenstein who Muar Gaddafi alleges was
[00:47:09] also an Israeli uh national. Maybe he
[00:47:12] had dual citizenship. I'm not sure
[00:47:13] because again, we don't have the files.
[00:47:15] I'm just speaking about what has been
[00:47:17] said in the public sphere.
[00:47:19] It's kind of shocking that Lyndon Baines
[00:47:21] Johnson would be such an ally to Israel.
[00:47:24] So much so that he would tell people, I
[00:47:29] don't care if American sailors die. I'm
[00:47:32] not going to embarrass Israel. which
[00:47:34] means he didn't inherit JFK's
[00:47:36] frustration with the nation.
[00:47:38] He did not. He uh
[00:47:42] if you remember, he says uh you had a
[00:47:44] friend in uh JFK of Israel, but I'm I'm
[00:47:48] going to be much a much better friend.
[00:47:50] You have a better friend than you ever
[00:47:53] did.
[00:47:54] You know what? Actually, I don't know if
[00:47:55] you had um
[00:47:58] read this article. This quite this this
[00:48:00] really shocked me. This was published in
[00:48:03] the Jerusalem Post in 2008. The article
[00:48:06] is entitled, "A friend indeed." I'll
[00:48:09] just read a bit of it. A few weeks ago,
[00:48:11] the Associated Press reported the newly
[00:48:13] released tapes from US President Lyndon
[00:48:15] Johnson's White House office, which
[00:48:17] showed LBJ's quote personal and often
[00:48:20] emotional connection to Israel. The news
[00:48:23] agency pointed out that during the
[00:48:24] Johnson presidency, the United States
[00:48:26] became Israel's chief diplomatic ally
[00:48:29] and primary arms supplier. But the news
[00:48:32] report does little to reveal the full
[00:48:34] historical extent of Johnson's actions
[00:48:36] on behalf of the Jewish people in the
[00:48:37] state of Israel. Most students of the
[00:48:39] Arab-Israeli conflict can identify
[00:48:41] Johnson as the president during the 1967
[00:48:44] war, but few know about LBJ's actions to
[00:48:47] rescue hundreds of endangered Jews
[00:48:49] during the Holocaust. actions that could
[00:48:51] have thrown him out of Congress and into
[00:48:53] jail. Indeed, the title of righteous
[00:48:56] gentile is certainly appropriate in the
[00:48:58] case of the Texan whose centennial year
[00:49:00] is being commemorated this year. It then
[00:49:03] goes on and speaks about how he while
[00:49:07] serving as a young congressman arranged
[00:49:08] for visas to be supplied to Jews that
[00:49:11] were in Warsaw and oversaw the
[00:49:14] apparently illegal immigration of
[00:49:16] hundred of Jews through the port of
[00:49:18] Galveston, Texas. A key resource for
[00:49:21] uncovering LBJ's pro-Jewish activity is
[00:49:23] the unpublished 1989 doctoral thesis by
[00:49:27] a student named Lewis Gamalok uh a
[00:49:30] University of Texas student and he
[00:49:32] speaks about LBJ's foreign affair
[00:49:34] background in this piece and they were
[00:49:37] able to confirm through other historians
[00:49:40] and interviews with his wife and family
[00:49:42] members and political associates that
[00:49:43] the research was accurate. It says,
[00:49:46] quote, "Research into Johnson's personal
[00:49:48] history indicates that he inherited his
[00:49:50] concern for the Jewish people from his
[00:49:51] family. His aunt, Jesse Johnson Hatcher,
[00:49:55] a major influence on LBJ, was a member
[00:49:58] of the Zionist Organization of America.
[00:50:01] According to Galileo, Aunt Jesse had
[00:50:03] nurtured LBJ's commitment to befriending
[00:50:05] Jews for 50 years. As a boy, he watched
[00:50:08] his politically active grandfather, Big
[00:50:10] Sam, and father, Little Sam, seek
[00:50:12] clemency for Leo Frank." Um, this says
[00:50:15] the Jewish victim of blood liel. He's
[00:50:16] actually uh he murdered a young Catholic
[00:50:21] girl uh during Passover in 19 I believe
[00:50:24] it was 1913. I'll have to fact check
[00:50:27] that. Uh but they present him as a
[00:50:29] victim uh of a blood liel. Johnson's
[00:50:32] later told friends that Lyndon's family
[00:50:34] hid in their cellar while his father and
[00:50:36] uncle stood guard with shotguns on their
[00:50:38] porch in the case of the KKK attacks. So
[00:50:42] they say that he often cited Leo Frank's
[00:50:45] lynching as a sort of his opposition.
[00:50:48] But it's interesting because people I
[00:50:50] don't think knew this that LBJ was
[00:50:51] Jewish. Um that his aunt was involved in
[00:50:54] the Zionist organization and also that
[00:50:59] uh
[00:51:00] he pressured the administration
[00:51:02] apparently uh to have tighter ties with
[00:51:06] Apac. So we can probably trace when we
[00:51:10] are speaking about Apac um
[00:51:14] the marriage I would say between the
[00:51:16] United States government and Apac we can
[00:51:18] attribute that to Lynden Baines Johnson.
[00:51:22] How does it make you feel to know that
[00:51:25] actually
[00:51:27] you know he was in fact more loyal to
[00:51:30] Israel?
[00:51:31] Oh absolutely
[00:51:33] much more loyal. In fact, on June the
[00:51:36] 8th, when our ship got hit, in his bed
[00:51:39] was a Urggon agent, Matilda Crim.
[00:51:43] Really?
[00:51:43] Really
[00:51:45] unbelievable.
[00:51:47] True story.
[00:51:48] Yeah. It even says that Johnson raised
[00:51:51] substantial sum for arms for the Jewish
[00:51:53] underground fighters in Palestine. He
[00:51:55] was doing all of this illegally. uh he
[00:51:58] armed the Jewish underground of quote
[00:52:00] unquote freedom fighters and did all of
[00:52:04] this uh alongside his closest advisers
[00:52:08] were strong pro-Israel advocates
[00:52:09] Benjamin Cohen uh who 30 years earlier
[00:52:12] was the liazison between the Supreme
[00:52:14] Court justice Lewis Brandes and Heim
[00:52:16] Whitesman and Abe Foras the legendary
[00:52:19] Washington insider
[00:52:21] I mean that's just how did we go from a
[00:52:23] president who wanted to stop this to a
[00:52:26] president that was involved in the
[00:52:30] underground and was pushing our
[00:52:31] government to get more involved with
[00:52:33] Israel. It leads I mean certainly I
[00:52:36] think it's fair for people to wonder
[00:52:38] what it is that is classified and that
[00:52:41] they're so afraid to release to the
[00:52:43] public about JFK's remarkably suspicious
[00:52:46] death.
[00:52:47] Yes, his death um
[00:52:50] was not by a lone gunman in my belief.
[00:52:53] Uh in fact I saw
[00:52:56] the day that um Oswald got killed by
[00:53:00] Rubenstein,
[00:53:01] he says, "I'm nothing but a psy, nothing
[00:53:03] but a psy." And he was a psy.
[00:53:07] So, uh there's so much to be said for
[00:53:10] that. And the USS Liberty is covered up
[00:53:13] just as deep. And it all goes right back
[00:53:15] to Israel.
[00:53:17] Uh is our country really America first
[00:53:21] or is it Israel first?
[00:53:23] Are we an occupied nation? I think we're
[00:53:25] an occupied nation and uh you know look
[00:53:29] at look at all the wars, okay?
[00:53:32] Uh let's just go back to Iraq war and
[00:53:34] Afghanistan war. They they were fought
[00:53:37] all for the greater good of Israel.
[00:53:41] That's my belief and it's a lot of other
[00:53:43] people's beliefs too.
[00:53:45] They sacrificed men. Worn it's a war
[00:53:48] machine. you know the uh like Eisenhower
[00:53:52] warned but of the u uh
[00:53:55] military-industrial complex
[00:53:57] and he was absolutely right. I remember
[00:53:59] that because I was a kid then.
[00:54:03] I mean I think it's difficult for me and
[00:54:06] why I say that this has been such a
[00:54:07] turning point. Uh it's difficult for me
[00:54:10] to take seriously now any of the
[00:54:12] politicians who declare themselves to be
[00:54:16] America first. I mean, just to be clear,
[00:54:20] Congress passed through in the blink of
[00:54:22] an eye uh to ensure that people would
[00:54:25] learn about October 7th in school.
[00:54:28] Oh, absolutely. Yes.
[00:54:29] And yet I went through school. I
[00:54:31] graduated college. I have two degrees.
[00:54:34] And I had never learned about the USS
[00:54:36] Liberty and its entire context until I
[00:54:39] received your letter.
[00:54:40] Yep. It it was covered up and uh it's
[00:54:43] not in the history books, which which it
[00:54:45] should be. It's a very important part of
[00:54:47] history. Now, something very
[00:54:48] interesting. Back in the 80s,
[00:54:51] uh I did a a speaking deal uh with the
[00:54:55] old uh Spotlight newspaper
[00:54:58] and the two older gentlemen, they were
[00:55:00] entrepreneurs in uh Wisconsin, Grafton.
[00:55:04] Uh they read it and they sent me a
[00:55:06] letter and said, "We were going to we're
[00:55:10] building a new library and we're going
[00:55:12] to we were going to call it the Grove
[00:55:13] Library. Now, we want to call it the USS
[00:55:16] Liberty Memorial Library.
[00:55:19] And the whole Milwaukee area, everybody
[00:55:22] around there, the Jewish population
[00:55:24] says, "No, no, no, no. You cannot do
[00:55:27] that because it's it's anti-Semitic
[00:55:31] to bring up USS Liberty."
[00:55:33] Anti-Semitic.
[00:55:34] Anti-Semitic. And the Gro Brothers said,
[00:55:36] "The heck with you guys. They've already
[00:55:39] putting a million bucks up." And uh they
[00:55:41] said, "We'll just take our money out."
[00:55:43] And then the town said, "No, no, no, no.
[00:55:46] We we'll name it the USS Liberty
[00:55:47] Memorial Library."
[00:55:49] Because they he threatened to take all
[00:55:51] the both of them threatened to take all
[00:55:52] the money about uh away from it. So,
[00:55:57] and and we had to have, get this, SWAT
[00:55:59] teams on the roofs,
[00:56:02] the bomb sniffing dogs because we were
[00:56:05] all threatened.
[00:56:07] Uh they were going to get us right there
[00:56:10] for being dedicating the survivors,
[00:56:12] dedicating that. That's when Pete
[00:56:13] McCcluskey, former congressman McCloskey
[00:56:16] was there and he spoke at the dedication
[00:56:18] as did others.
[00:56:20] Wow. So you you had told me that you
[00:56:24] have been threatened by the Mossad.
[00:56:27] Can you tell me more about that?
[00:56:29] Yes. I was in uh California with my
[00:56:32] wife. We were uh going out to visit my
[00:56:34] son. He he was graduating from Buds. um
[00:56:37] seal
[00:56:39] and uh we were in a restaurant. Well, we
[00:56:43] were at the bar getting a drink, wait to
[00:56:45] get our table, and this guy come up and
[00:56:47] got on my right side of me.
[00:56:50] He said, "Oh, you were on the Liberty
[00:56:51] Hunt." I said, "Yeah, how'd you know
[00:56:53] that?" And he said, "I know a lot." And
[00:56:56] he had a big watch and he put it right
[00:56:58] up front of my face. I said, "Get that
[00:57:01] out of my face, man. What is it, a
[00:57:03] camera, a speaking device, or why is it
[00:57:04] going to squirt me with something? I
[00:57:06] don't know.
[00:57:08] And then he said, "Listen, uh, I know
[00:57:11] everything about you. You know, I'm a
[00:57:12] sad agent
[00:57:14] and the best thing for you to do
[00:57:17] is just shut up."
[00:57:20] My wife heard that. She come over me and
[00:57:22] boy, she gave him all she I mean, whoa.
[00:57:27] I I can't tell you. And then security
[00:57:29] had to take us up to our room and make
[00:57:31] sure everything was okay. And I went
[00:57:34] down the next morning and the guy
[00:57:37] pretext, he told everybody he was a a
[00:57:39] doctor. He'd been there a couple days
[00:57:40] before, but he was waiting on me and my
[00:57:43] wife is what he was doing. How we found
[00:57:44] out we were there, I don't know. It
[00:57:46] could have been they traced it somehow.
[00:57:48] Credit card or who knows.
[00:57:51] Wow. That's just incredible.
[00:57:52] It is.
[00:57:53] They have a remarkable ability to be on
[00:57:58] the ground when big events take place.
[00:58:00] Like it was confirmed that the MSAD was
[00:58:02] on the ground the day that JFK got shot.
[00:58:05] It has been confirmed that they were on
[00:58:08] the ground recording
[00:58:11] uh at least according to ABC News who
[00:58:13] investigated this the day that 9/11 took
[00:58:16] place which you could say was obviously
[00:58:19] the beginning of us being involved in
[00:58:21] these never- ending wars in the Middle
[00:58:23] East. Um, and
[00:58:26] obviously the USS Liberty, they got
[00:58:29] caught executing uh another false flag
[00:58:32] at the exact same time, the Leavon
[00:58:34] Affair.
[00:58:35] Mhm.
[00:58:35] Uh, which they were going to murder
[00:58:38] Americans in order to drag us into war
[00:58:40] with Egypt. So, I don't know if that was
[00:58:41] before or after the US Liberty, but
[00:58:45] there's a lot of I mean, you can't say
[00:58:47] that Israel is not involved in false
[00:58:49] flags because the Leavon Affair proves
[00:58:50] that they are.
[00:58:51] King David Hotel.
[00:58:52] King David Hotel. uh means exactly
[00:58:55] proves that they are you're you survived
[00:58:58] what you believe to be a false flag
[00:59:01] attack and yet we have people in America
[00:59:05] who get on stage and refer to them as
[00:59:07] our greatest friend and ally.
[00:59:12] I mean, how does that make you feel just
[00:59:13] to even hear that? To hear people say
[00:59:15] they're our greatest friend and ally.
[00:59:17] And by the way, I want to be clear. I
[00:59:20] count myself among those people for the
[00:59:22] first six years of my career. I I
[00:59:25] genuinely had no idea.
[00:59:28] Most people don't. And um they it m it
[00:59:32] makes me furious. It really does.
[00:59:36] They're they're not our best friend.
[00:59:38] They're not our ally. Uh they got more
[00:59:41] money when they murdered my shipmates
[00:59:43] than they ever got in their entire
[00:59:44] existence.
[00:59:46] And uh the Israelis said they paid $6
[00:59:49] million. They didn't pay $6 million
[00:59:53] uh to our ship. Uh our own government
[00:59:56] did. The ship alone was worth $40
[00:59:58] million
[01:00:00] and they settled for 6 million. The most
[01:00:03] seriously wounded got some uh and they
[01:00:06] very well should have. And of course the
[01:00:08] the dead. Most of the crew got 200 bucks
[01:00:12] and ordered shut up. Then I was ordered
[01:00:14] to sign that where I could never sue
[01:00:17] Israel or the United States, which I,
[01:00:19] you know, I I signed it gladly.
[01:00:21] You signed it order because you were
[01:00:23] ordered to sign it, which means you
[01:00:25] could never sue Israel or the United
[01:00:28] States for what you survived.
[01:00:29] Yep. Yep. And that that was under
[01:00:32] duress. And uh I don't I don't think
[01:00:35] it's worth the paper is written. I don't
[01:00:36] think it's worth anything.
[01:00:38] No, of course it's not worth anything.
[01:00:39] Uh but that's what they did to us and
[01:00:42] they continue to do it. Uh they can't
[01:00:45] wait till we're dead. You know, we're
[01:00:46] all dying out. We're getting older. I'm
[01:00:48] 78 and um I got guys that are 85 close
[01:00:52] to 90. You know, some of them can't even
[01:00:56] get out of their house much anymore
[01:00:57] where they got disease or whatever. You
[01:00:59] know, um we lost three or four in the
[01:01:02] last year, cancer and things like that.
[01:01:05] And uh but we're not I'm not going to
[01:01:08] give up till my dying breath. I'm going
[01:01:11] to be here uh speaking the truth. And we
[01:01:14] plan on trying to get together a
[01:01:16] speaking tour around the country for
[01:01:19] survivors to speak to the public and
[01:01:22] tell them about our government and the
[01:01:24] Israeli government. As far as I'm
[01:01:26] concerned, Candace,
[01:01:28] they set us up. uh Israel were the
[01:01:31] hitmen
[01:01:33] and our government paid them to hit us
[01:01:36] and then when we didn't sink they tell
[01:01:39] us that it was a mistaken identity
[01:01:43] us the survivors that they thought we
[01:01:46] were somebody else
[01:01:49] they shot two of our flags down and we
[01:01:51] put up another one 7 by13 they say they
[01:01:54] didn't see that one either 7 by13 that's
[01:01:57] a big flag they call it holiday colors
[01:02:00] And that's what we flew into Malta 1,000
[01:02:03] miles away. We went from that torpedo
[01:02:06] hit 1,000 miles away with a 40ft ho 40
[01:02:09] by 40ft hole in the ship hoping we would
[01:02:12] sink.
[01:02:14] Well, what I can tell you is that this
[01:02:16] has completely changed a lot for me. Um,
[01:02:18] I just first and foremost just want to
[01:02:21] apologize to you. Look, I'm I'm
[01:02:23] genuinely embarrassed at my ignorance
[01:02:25] and I it's confounding for me that I
[01:02:30] thought that I was on the side of the
[01:02:32] party of, you know, truth and America
[01:02:34] first and patriots and caring about our
[01:02:36] veterans. And I'm realizing now that so
[01:02:39] many of these people are cowards.
[01:02:41] They're cowards. They know the truth.
[01:02:43] They lie to people as they're coming up
[01:02:45] in this movement. Um, and they are
[01:02:48] completely occupied. Uh there are some
[01:02:51] that are brave obviously Thomas Massie
[01:02:54] but I I do want to offer to you that for
[01:02:57] I promise you as as long as you live I
[01:03:00] will hold a candle for the USS Liberty.
[01:03:02] You forever have a platform if I have a
[01:03:05] platform. You know, I I almost feel
[01:03:09] ashamed of myself that I thought to
[01:03:10] myself this year, "Oh my gosh, I'm
[01:03:12] getting so attacked by the Zionist media
[01:03:13] because I had a heart over the
[01:03:15] Palestinian children that were dying."
[01:03:17] And I realized I had to survive digital
[01:03:19] attacks. I mean, you survived.
[01:03:22] What you survived is unbelievable. And I
[01:03:25] I first and foremost, I know that you
[01:03:27] have an organization. So, I want to
[01:03:28] pledge to you that personally, my family
[01:03:31] will donate $40,000 every year to your
[01:03:34] organization. And I'm asking if every
[01:03:37] single person who is watching this right
[01:03:39] now, and this will be in the millions.
[01:03:42] If every single person gives a dollar,
[01:03:44] just one dollar, we can keep their
[01:03:47] organization going, we can give them
[01:03:49] what they need to speak about this and
[01:03:51] we can show them that despite the fact
[01:03:54] that we may all be existing under a
[01:03:56] government that is occupied, this is not
[01:03:58] who we are. um as Americans or people
[01:04:01] worldwide because we have an audience
[01:04:02] all over the world uh who I think is
[01:04:05] similarly starting to wonder how many of
[01:04:07] our nations are occupied by lobbying
[01:04:10] from Zionists and spending money. Um can
[01:04:13] you tell my audience a bit about your
[01:04:14] organization?
[01:04:16] Yes. Uh organization is a veterans and u
[01:04:20] like-minded people, family members. Uh
[01:04:24] you can go to usslibertyveterans.org
[01:04:26] org usslibertyveterans.org.
[01:04:30] And our This is a brand new uh site we
[01:04:33] put up. It's very technical. I mean, I
[01:04:36] don't know a whole lot about it. It
[01:04:37] takes a lot people a lot smarter than
[01:04:39] me, but they got people doing it. And
[01:04:42] it's you can donate there. You can go
[01:04:44] through look at pictures. You can read
[01:04:46] articles. The more report and um I was
[01:04:50] just thinking about uh uh Ward Boston,
[01:04:53] the JAG. It was with Admiral Kidd. Uh I
[01:04:57] should have brought this up earlier, but
[01:04:59] uh
[01:05:01] there was a man named AJ Crystal. He was
[01:05:03] a bank bankruptcy judge and he wrote a
[01:05:07] book, The Liberty, and he's he's Jewish.
[01:05:10] And uh he lied about it. And then Ward
[01:05:13] Boston
[01:05:14] signed a declaration. He says, "We were
[01:05:16] ordered by our government to lie. We
[01:05:19] knew it was a
[01:05:21] no mistaken identity. It was a
[01:05:23] deliberate attack to sink it sink that
[01:05:26] ship and he he felt bad about it, you
[01:05:30] know. He says, "I was a military man and
[01:05:31] I followed orders." But that brought him
[01:05:34] out. He just couldn't do it anymore. And
[01:05:36] soon after that, he died.
[01:05:38] Yeah. I can't imagine being ordered.
[01:05:40] Yeah.
[01:05:41] Well, absolutely. Our our our ship is
[01:05:44] the most from the Medal of Honor, Navy
[01:05:48] Cross, Silver Stars, bronze stars, 208
[01:05:51] purple hearts. um combat action rivet
[01:05:54] and the presidential unit citation and
[01:05:57] nobody knows about it.
[01:05:58] Yeah. What do the objects mean if they
[01:06:01] keep you a secret and call you Nazis for
[01:06:03] trying to speak out? It means nothing.
[01:06:05] None of it means anything if you don't
[01:06:06] have a government that truly honors and
[01:06:09] respects you.
[01:06:09] Yes. And if if I honor old veterans,
[01:06:12] they they go in their they go into to
[01:06:14] serve the country. In fact, when I put
[01:06:16] on the uniform the first time, I was the
[01:06:18] proudest man in the world to do that.
[01:06:22] to serve my country and to be abandoned
[01:06:26] and uh
[01:06:28] for all these years and abandoned right
[01:06:30] now. I'm asking you front out, President
[01:06:33] Trump, don't abandon the crew of the USS
[01:06:35] Liberty, please. I see your picture
[01:06:37] there with beautiful Candace. And who is
[01:06:39] that that other man? Is that
[01:06:41] It's my husband.
[01:06:42] Oh, that's your husband. I'm sorry.
[01:06:44] That's George.
[01:06:46] Oh,
[01:06:47] but uh President Trump, please help us.
[01:06:49] Don't don't abandon us. This is an act
[01:06:52] that should be brought out. The truth
[01:06:54] should be told. Sir, please help us.
[01:06:58] I tell you, I have never ever ever had
[01:06:59] an inkling to run for president of the
[01:07:01] United States, despite people insisting
[01:07:03] on it. But hearing what happened to you,
[01:07:05] if I ever do run, it will be to honor
[01:07:07] you guys in the way that you should be
[01:07:08] honored and to give the middle finger
[01:07:11] right back.
[01:07:11] I hope you do because the government
[01:07:13] My daughter said that yesterday. Tell
[01:07:15] her I wanted to run for president.
[01:07:17] Candace for president. If I did it, it
[01:07:18] would be to to honor the memory of the
[01:07:21] USS Liberty. And I would say it every
[01:07:22] day when I was on stage because what
[01:07:24] happened to you is despicable. It is
[01:07:26] aborant that we have men that are
[01:07:28] raising money, pretending to be America
[01:07:29] first, um that are more concerned with
[01:07:32] getting invited to dinners in fancy
[01:07:34] dinners, uh pedalling lines that they
[01:07:36] don't actually mean in their heart. And
[01:07:37] the worst thing is that they say that
[01:07:39] they're the party of God, that they are
[01:07:41] the party of God. And yet they commit
[01:07:44] themselves not not to a higher power.
[01:07:45] They commit themselves to politicians.
[01:07:47] They commit themselves to lobbyists.
[01:07:48] They commit themselves to money. And to
[01:07:51] the people that parttook in this lie, I
[01:07:54] hope and know that all of them are
[01:07:55] burning in hell. And to every person
[01:07:58] that's watching this that is going to
[01:08:00] continue to lie, to call you conspiracy
[01:08:02] theorists, to call you a Nazi, those
[01:08:04] people too will either repent or they
[01:08:06] will burn in hell. I truly believe that.
[01:08:08] I do too. And uh two weeks ago I was in
[01:08:11] a church uh a Zionist church. They had a
[01:08:15] Israeli flag and American flag hanging
[01:08:17] side by side. I was asked to speak
[01:08:18] there. Uh pastor Jason Neely and he says
[01:08:23] we we don't condone everything that
[01:08:25] Israel does and the truth has got to be
[01:08:27] told. And the people in the church were
[01:08:30] very receptive and u a lot of them are
[01:08:33] you know weeping.
[01:08:35] Um, another good pastor, Pastor Chuck
[01:08:38] Baldwin out of uh, Callisbell, um,
[01:08:43] Montana. Uh, he's he's on our side and
[01:08:46] he's he doesn't teach he teaches what's
[01:08:48] really in the Bible, not what they want
[01:08:50] you to believe.
[01:08:51] Well, obviously the Zionists funded the
[01:08:53] Scoffield Bible. Absolutely. The
[01:08:54] Scoffield Bible.
[01:08:55] That's a whole another episode that I'
[01:08:57] I've got to get into to teach people
[01:08:59] real history. Um, other than going to
[01:09:01] your website and supporting you, is
[01:09:02] there anything else that we can do and
[01:09:04] that we can send our audience to?
[01:09:07] Well, we need their hopes and their
[01:09:08] prayers. Um, if if they if they would go
[01:09:11] there and like you said, donate and your
[01:09:13] generous donation. My god, I'm I'm
[01:09:15] almost annually.
[01:09:16] I almost fell on the floor.
[01:09:18] I I promise you, you will have that
[01:09:19] annually from my family.
[01:09:21] Uh, even if we fall on hard times, we
[01:09:23] will we will pick up side jobs and we
[01:09:26] will make that donation every single
[01:09:27] year. And I and until the last veteran
[01:09:32] of the USS Liberty is no longer here,
[01:09:34] you will have that donation.
[01:09:36] God God bless you. I just God bless you,
[01:09:38] Candace.
[01:09:39] God bless you. And I know that right now
[01:09:40] Christ is with us. Christ is king and
[01:09:42] the truth is is powerful enough.
[01:09:45] It is. And I want to thank you again uh
[01:09:48] for getting me on the map. And uh I I
[01:09:51] certainly appreciate it. If there's any
[01:09:53] other people that you can figure out
[01:09:54] that I could go to or any of my other
[01:09:56] mates, I'd be I'd walk there if I had.
[01:09:59] We'll host you every year. I promise you
[01:10:01] we'll get other people on the show. You
[01:10:03] guys, thank you so much for joining us.
[01:10:04] I am sure your mind has been equally as
[01:10:06] blown as mine has been. I'm sure you are
[01:10:08] equal parts sad and equal parts
[01:10:10] frustrated and angry. Um disappointed I
[01:10:13] think also in our government. But I I
[01:10:16] really think that things are going to
[01:10:18] change. And so, thank you so much for
[01:10:20] listening to the story and Philip, thank
[01:10:21] you so much for joining us.
[01:10:22] Thank you for the invite. And again, God
[01:10:24] bless you, Candace. You're a wonderful
[01:10:26] woman.
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