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[00:00:06] You ready to do this rope? Back in the
[00:00:08] hot seat.
[00:00:08] >> Dude, I can't believe you're back
[00:00:10] already.
[00:00:11] >> I mean, I didn't think that we'd get
[00:00:14] this much out this fast. We I came on
[00:00:16] your podcast and then two weeks later,
[00:00:19] the Justice Department decides to
[00:00:21] release 50% of the files. So, I figured
[00:00:23] maybe if I come back, they'll release
[00:00:24] the other 50%.
[00:00:27] Hopefully. Uh, wow. I mean, I I'm going
[00:00:34] to be You're my fourth interview this
[00:00:36] week. I've dug in as much as I can.
[00:00:39] Thank you for coming. I'm not an expert
[00:00:41] on this stuff. I'm trying to figure out
[00:00:42] what's real, what's not real, and and
[00:00:45] and sift through this [ __ ] and and and
[00:00:48] and I want to know, you know, what do we
[00:00:50] do next? But, um, so thanks for coming,
[00:00:53] Ro. I I really appreciate it. And the
[00:00:55] last episode was awesome. I mean, I took
[00:00:58] a lot of heat for it. You probably did,
[00:01:00] too. But I I think this is, you know,
[00:01:01] it's it's what needs to happen. We have
[00:01:04] >> I just want to say you're not a
[00:01:05] communist just cuz you have me on. You
[00:01:07] know, we we can talk to each other even
[00:01:09] if we don't agree. And we certainly can
[00:01:11] agree that pedophiles shouldn't be
[00:01:13] protected in America.
[00:01:14] >> That's right.
[00:01:15] >> The stuff has been worse than even I
[00:01:17] anticipated. I don't know what you
[00:01:19] thought when you
[00:01:20] >> I couldn't believe some of the [ __ ] that
[00:01:21] I was seeing in there. And we're going
[00:01:24] to go into
[00:01:26] as much of that as you want and as I
[00:01:28] want today, but uh I wanted to open it
[00:01:30] up with a quote.
[00:01:32] Let's see if you know who wrote this.
[00:01:34] Remember when we learned that our
[00:01:36] wealthiest and most powerful people were
[00:01:38] connected to a guy who ran a literal
[00:01:41] child sex trafficking ring and then that
[00:01:44] guy died mysteriously in jail. And now
[00:01:48] we just don't talk about it. You know
[00:01:50] who wrote that? our vice president, JD
[00:01:52] Vance.
[00:01:52] >> JD Vance wrote that in uh September 4th,
[00:01:56] 21
[00:01:57] >> back when he used to be a populist. I
[00:01:58] knew him back then.
[00:01:59] >> What happened?
[00:02:00] >> I don't know. Look, I used to I went to
[00:02:02] uh factory towns with JD Vance. He used
[00:02:05] to talk about why our jobs are going
[00:02:06] offshore, hollowing out of our
[00:02:09] factories. You know, Tim Ryan, me and
[00:02:11] and JD were across uh small town
[00:02:14] America. And I thought, okay, I disagree
[00:02:15] with this guy, but he's got the same
[00:02:17] values like stand up for ordinary
[00:02:18] Americans. and he sounded the alarm on
[00:02:21] the Epstein files as did Donald Trump. I
[00:02:23] mean, they made this a huge thing. And I
[00:02:25] just I I tweeted at him yesterday.
[00:02:27] Sometimes we go back and forth and I
[00:02:29] said, "Jatie, you talk about being a
[00:02:30] man. You talk about let's have not
[00:02:33] diminish masculinity in America." To me,
[00:02:36] being a man means standing up and
[00:02:38] respecting standing up for what you
[00:02:41] believe in, no matter what the [ __ ]
[00:02:43] consequences are. That's what being a
[00:02:45] man is. Being a man is not keeping your
[00:02:48] [ __ ] mouth shut because daddy's got a
[00:02:50] thumb on you. That's what this is.
[00:02:52] That's what's happening. And it's
[00:02:54] [ __ ] pissing me off. And it's pissing
[00:02:56] all of the American people off.
[00:02:57] >> And he looks emasculated to Trump. I
[00:03:00] mean, why can't he just get out there
[00:03:01] and say, "Yeah, I'm going to stand up to
[00:03:04] these powerful men who uh are involved
[00:03:08] in the raping of American girls." Like
[00:03:11] anyone who has a sister, anyone who has
[00:03:13] a daughter, anyone who has a wife should
[00:03:16] be offended and being a man in my view
[00:03:18] means standing up for the respect and
[00:03:20] dignity of uh women not being abused and
[00:03:24] standing up to evil men like that. Like
[00:03:27] you went and fought wars against the bad
[00:03:29] guys, right? This is this is like are
[00:03:31] you on the good guys side or the bad
[00:03:33] guys side? And uh I still hope because I
[00:03:36] I want what's right for survivors. I I'm
[00:03:38] sure someone is going to show this to
[00:03:40] the the vice president. I hope he
[00:03:42] remembers what what he was like before
[00:03:44] he got into this position. All he's got
[00:03:46] to do is put out a statement, release
[00:03:48] all the files. Let's hold these people
[00:03:50] accountable who went to Epstein's
[00:03:51] Island. I don't know how hard it is.
[00:03:53] Looks like maybe he's had a change of
[00:03:55] opinion,
[00:03:56] unfortunately. But uh and you know,
[00:03:59] before we get too much too far into
[00:04:01] this, I just it was really cool to
[00:04:03] introduce to to get you and Schle to
[00:04:05] beat each other. We we had a great
[00:04:07] episode with him yesterday about all
[00:04:09] about what he's doing with Roblox. And
[00:04:12] to be able to show you all of the stuff
[00:04:14] that's not even all of the stuff, some
[00:04:16] of the stuff that's going on there like
[00:04:18] the Epstein Island game or recreating
[00:04:21] all of the mass shooter events, Sandy
[00:04:23] Hook, Yolvi, what what were some of the
[00:04:26] other ones, Jeremy? There there Columb's
[00:04:29] in there. Grocery store in New York.
[00:04:32] >> 911.
[00:04:33] >> I had no idea. Look, I Schlep's a
[00:04:36] courageous guy and I'm glad you had him
[00:04:38] on and he's taken on some of this abuse
[00:04:41] that is going on on on Roblox and I did
[00:04:44] a petition to to support him because of
[00:04:46] that. But I had no idea just till 5
[00:04:48] minutes ago that they have a game on
[00:04:51] Sandy Hook where you're the shooter and
[00:04:54] you kill your own mom like the Sandy
[00:04:57] Hook assassin did and then you go into
[00:04:58] the school and they show you uh blowing
[00:05:01] up kids in a bathroom. I mean, it is
[00:05:04] sick. Hold. Not only that, the victim's
[00:05:08] names are over the characters. The kids
[00:05:12] that were killed, the actual victim's
[00:05:13] name, the kids that were killed. We have
[00:05:16] screenshots this [ __ ] They have they
[00:05:18] have the victim's names that were killed
[00:05:21] in some of these incidents is is actual
[00:05:24] characters in the game that you shoot
[00:05:26] and kill. I mean, that makes you so
[00:05:27] angry. It's it's it's certainly illegal.
[00:05:30] >> This is safe for kids though, Ro,
[00:05:31] according to them. And you you wonder
[00:05:33] why we've got a culture where you got
[00:05:35] school shootings. You're celebrating and
[00:05:37] teaching kids to celebrate school
[00:05:39] shootings where you can be the shooter
[00:05:41] and go kill these kids.
[00:05:42] >> Not only that, you're building them a
[00:05:44] legacy that will live forever. You're
[00:05:47] you're you're it's almost like they're
[00:05:48] memorializing this [ __ ] You know what I
[00:05:50] mean? You've built you've built a legacy
[00:05:52] where kids can go and reenact this
[00:05:55] celebrate. It's it's it's in it's it's
[00:05:58] >> there's there's little kids on this
[00:06:01] game. little kids.
[00:06:02] >> It's It's got to I mean that whole thing
[00:06:04] needs to come down. Uh and then Epstein
[00:06:07] Island did Schlle was showing that to
[00:06:09] me. I was That's chilling. I mean,
[00:06:11] they've recreated the island where young
[00:06:14] girls were raped and you got kids going
[00:06:16] and
[00:06:18] roaming around on their video games on
[00:06:20] these islands. I mean, what are we
[00:06:22] thinking in this country?
[00:06:23] >> It's it's like I don't know. When I grew
[00:06:26] up, I would play little league. You play
[00:06:27] you go watch the Phillies or the Sixers.
[00:06:29] I mean, you don't And people played
[00:06:31] video games, but our video games weren't
[00:06:33] like
[00:06:34] >> RBI baseball and donkey.
[00:06:35] >> Yeah, seriously. Madden,
[00:06:38] >> you don't go blow up young kids. I mean,
[00:06:40] there's something sick, right? There s
[00:06:42] the Epstein class, the Epstein file show
[00:06:45] how sick the elite are in our country.
[00:06:48] We could have a much longer
[00:06:49] conversation, but what we're doing with
[00:06:51] our kids is just going to replicate that
[00:06:53] and make it worse. It's uh disgusting.
[00:06:55] And I I hope people watch that episode
[00:06:58] with Schlle and I hope it it it triggers
[00:07:00] a serious reform on uh on Roblox or the
[00:07:04] platform and in general of this video
[00:07:06] junk that's out there. Oh, a lot of
[00:07:09] people are going to watch it. I did one
[00:07:11] with Ryan Montgomery and they lost $6
[00:07:13] billion in one week starting on the day
[00:07:16] we released the episode
[00:07:18] >> on this stuff.
[00:07:19] >> On this stuff, you can see the graph. it
[00:07:21] goes.
[00:07:23] >> You You have no uh fear of taking these
[00:07:26] powerful people on, huh?
[00:07:27] >> I wouldn't say I have no fear. I just
[00:07:31] think this is why I'm here. Cuz nobody
[00:07:34] else is doing this [ __ ]
[00:07:35] >> No,
[00:07:36] >> I shouldn't say nobody else is doing
[00:07:38] this [ __ ] People that are in positions
[00:07:41] with very large audiences are not doing
[00:07:44] anything to protect kids. And I'm the
[00:07:46] only [ __ ] one that has
[00:07:47] >> because they're afraid of getting sued.
[00:07:48] I know you you face all that. They're
[00:07:50] afraid of having billionaires and
[00:07:52] powerful people turn on them. And it's
[00:07:55] not easy to take on these.
[00:07:56] >> I've never had a billionaire or a
[00:07:57] powerful person do a [ __ ] thing for
[00:07:59] me in my life. I don't need him. I don't
[00:08:03] [ __ ] need him. Anyways, Ro Kana,
[00:08:06] representative for California's 17th
[00:08:08] Congressional District in Silicon
[00:08:10] Valley, co-sponsor along with Rep.
[00:08:12] Massie the bill to fully release the
[00:08:15] Epstein files to the public. huge drop
[00:08:18] of files on the DOJ website last week.
[00:08:21] So, I want to dive in and and and see
[00:08:24] what some what all this means. Why so
[00:08:26] many names were redacted, abuser names
[00:08:29] redacted? That's kind of weird. Don't
[00:08:31] you think we'd want to know who's
[00:08:33] ordering hits and seriously
[00:08:35] >> burying bodies and all this other [ __ ]
[00:08:38] But uh as of today, Poly Market says
[00:08:41] there's only a 19% chance that anyone
[00:08:46] will be jailed over the Epstein
[00:08:48] disclosures. What do you think about
[00:08:50] that?
[00:08:50] >> It's up from like 3 or 4%. So, we're
[00:08:52] moving in the right direction.
[00:08:54] >> The uh But look, I there there obviously
[00:08:58] people who need to be prosecuted and
[00:08:59] investigated. They haven't released the
[00:09:01] names of the co-conspirators still even
[00:09:04] though there were they've released the
[00:09:05] indictments where we know that other
[00:09:08] people were involved. Every single
[00:09:12] person who is in those files who says I
[00:09:15] went to Epstein's Island or I went to
[00:09:17] this ranch in New Mexico or I went to
[00:09:20] Epstein's home uh and I know that there
[00:09:23] were young girls there at all of those
[00:09:26] places. Any one of those people need to
[00:09:28] be investigated. They need to be held in
[00:09:30] front of Congress and they need to be
[00:09:32] held accountable and they need to be
[00:09:33] asked, "What did you see? What did you
[00:09:35] do? What did you know?" Look, I've done
[00:09:38] a lot of fundraising. You don't have to
[00:09:40] go to some island to raise money from a
[00:09:42] rich guy. You don't have to go to some
[00:09:45] uh party where, you know, there are
[00:09:47] young girls being paraded around to
[00:09:49] raise money. You can have a coffee. You
[00:09:51] could have a dinner, you know. Uh and so
[00:09:54] this idea that, oh, we just all went
[00:09:55] there to raise money. Come on. I mean,
[00:09:58] it's you know what you know what's
[00:10:00] really interesting is how fast the
[00:10:02] narrative is starting to change or or or
[00:10:04] this this narrative they're trying to
[00:10:06] build. Like Todd Blanch, we saw on Fox
[00:10:09] News the other day, Todd Blanch said in
[00:10:11] quotes, "If any member of Congress
[00:10:14] wishes to review any portions of the of
[00:10:17] the responsive production in any ember
[00:10:19] acted form, they're welcome to make
[00:10:20] arrangements with the department to do
[00:10:22] so and we're happy to do that."
[00:10:25] Okay, here we go. Who was he sharing
[00:10:28] torture videos with? Who did he have
[00:10:31] killed? And who was talking about the
[00:10:34] foreign girls buried at his Zoro ranch?
[00:10:37] That would be a great [ __ ] start.
[00:10:38] Todd Blanch, who also said, "It's not a
[00:10:42] party. It's not a crime to party with
[00:10:44] Epstein." I'm sorry. It is a [ __ ]
[00:10:46] crime if you're [ __ ] minors.
[00:10:50] >> What the hell is that? But um but uh I
[00:10:54] mean how how could you even say that?
[00:10:55] It's not a crime to party and most
[00:10:57] offensive one of the most dumbest and
[00:10:59] most offensive things I've heard. I mean
[00:11:01] no one is talking about being a playboy.
[00:11:02] No one's talking about oh you go to a
[00:11:04] party and they're uh women there and
[00:11:07] you're having affairs. Fine.
[00:11:09] >> They're not at the Playboy mansion.
[00:11:10] Yeah. Exactly.
[00:11:11] >> They're at an island with a bunch of
[00:11:12] minors as as young as I think we saw
[00:11:16] >> nine
[00:11:17] >> nine years old.
[00:11:18] >> There was one email said a nine-year-old
[00:11:19] Brazilian. Nine-year-old Brazilian kid,
[00:11:23] girl. Yeah, boy.
[00:11:24] >> I mean,
[00:11:24] >> nine-year-old. And by the way, they've
[00:11:26] redacted the name of the person who sent
[00:11:28] that email.
[00:11:29] >> Well, we got to protect all the friends.
[00:11:32] I mean, that's the thing. They they they
[00:11:34] didn't redact the survivors in certain
[00:11:36] cases. They had nude images of young
[00:11:39] girls that they released, but they've
[00:11:41] blacked out names of people who sent
[00:11:43] Epstein an email saying, "I enjoyed the
[00:11:45] 9-year-old Brazilian. I enjoyed your
[00:11:47] little young girl who was naughty." I
[00:11:49] mean, it's sick. But the point is, you
[00:11:51] know, this is not some Epstein party.
[00:11:53] These are people who are going there,
[00:11:54] and at the very least, they know there
[00:11:55] are parties where young girls are being
[00:11:57] paraded naked. Paraded naked.
[00:11:59] 13-year-old, 14year-olds being paraded
[00:12:01] naked. They know that there are people
[00:12:03] who are raping and abusing girls on that
[00:12:05] island. They know that. They know that
[00:12:06] Epstein has done it. And anyone who
[00:12:08] thinks that it was just Epstein and
[00:12:10] Maxwell when there, 1200 survivors, I
[00:12:13] mean, they're just total liars. And so,
[00:12:16] you know, I I think Blanch should come
[00:12:18] here. I think he should, you know, I
[00:12:20] think he should sit down manto man with
[00:12:22] you go through it. I mean, if he has
[00:12:24] nothing to hide, fine. He's he's he
[00:12:26] wants members of Congress to to go there
[00:12:28] and I'm I'm going to go with Massie and
[00:12:30] Nancy Mace and we're arranging it. Our
[00:12:32] teams are arranging it. But why not have
[00:12:33] a real interview? I the the the media
[00:12:35] that gets three minutes, he does a bunch
[00:12:37] of his song and dance and you know that
[00:12:40] you don't get real answers. Sit down for
[00:12:41] two hours. Well, he's just going to sit
[00:12:44] here and lie to my face. We We actually
[00:12:46] had an opportunity for him to be on the
[00:12:48] show and I just [ __ ] got ghosted.
[00:12:50] >> He should come
[00:12:51] >> shut up from within the administration.
[00:12:53] >> Well, if he doesn't want to come, Pam
[00:12:55] Boundy should come some [ __ ]
[00:12:56] >> But they're all just going to [ __ ]
[00:12:58] lie, bro.
[00:12:58] >> They can't lie for two hours. They can't
[00:13:00] lie for two hours. I mean, it's a it's
[00:13:02] just sit here. They all wanted to come
[00:13:04] before the election.
[00:13:05] >> They all wanted to do the 2hour,
[00:13:07] three-hour podcast or have Vance come.
[00:13:09] Have have some person come and explain
[00:13:12] why they've redacted what they've
[00:13:14] redacted. These are also all the same
[00:13:16] people that told us all about the fake
[00:13:18] news for 8 years and how they'll never
[00:13:21] go back on the fake news until you get
[00:13:24] elected. And then there's no more
[00:13:26] hourong, 2h hour, 3 hour, four 4 hour
[00:13:29] conversations. It's two second news hits
[00:13:32] on Fox News. They don't do podcasts
[00:13:36] anymore.
[00:13:36] >> Yeah. I mean,
[00:13:37] >> it's back. It's back. Hey, let me get my
[00:13:39] daughter-in-law a job at Fox News and
[00:13:41] I'll just [ __ ] go on there and say,
[00:13:42] "Fuck all the podcasts."
[00:13:45] >> Good job.
[00:13:47] >> Another lie. Another [ __ ] lie.
[00:13:50] >> But I I just I don't even know.
[00:13:56] >> I don't even know where to start with
[00:13:58] this stuff. But I do want to ask one
[00:14:01] thing. We We made
[00:14:04] This isn't a right versus a left thing.
[00:14:06] And that's that's that's why you're
[00:14:08] here. And so I want to know why did you
[00:14:12] vote no to hold the Clintons in contempt
[00:14:14] for Congress?
[00:14:16] >> I voted yes on civil contempt. I voted
[00:14:19] no on criminal contempt. And I voted no
[00:14:21] on criminal contempt because I said
[00:14:23] after the release of the files they
[00:14:25] should come testify. They've agreed to
[00:14:26] testify. So if they hadn't come and
[00:14:29] testified, I would have voted yes
[00:14:31] ultimately on criminal contempt. But the
[00:14:33] vote then was yes on civil contempt, no
[00:14:35] on criminal contempt. And they are
[00:14:37] testifying on February 26th.
[00:14:40] >> What is the difference? Can you just
[00:14:41] explain the difference for the audience?
[00:14:43] >> Criminal contempt means you can go to
[00:14:44] jail. Uh civil contempt means that you
[00:14:48] could be fined. You have uh you don't go
[00:14:50] to jail. It's a it's a fine. It's a
[00:14:53] violation of Congress. But the point is
[00:14:56] I just thought it was premature when
[00:14:57] COMR was already negotiating. And what I
[00:15:00] said is after the files get released,
[00:15:01] they should come. This was before the
[00:15:03] files were released. As soon as the
[00:15:05] files were released, there's they're
[00:15:06] they've come. I mean, it's 50% of the
[00:15:08] files, but it's enough. And if they
[00:15:10] hadn't come before Congress, which
[00:15:12] they're now coming, I would have voted
[00:15:14] for criminal contempt. And I said that
[00:15:16] at the time. So, you know, people could
[00:15:18] criticize why didn't you vote for
[00:15:19] criminal contempt then? But, you know,
[00:15:21] the the negotiation hadn't happened. I
[00:15:23] mean, you got to give someone a chance
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[00:17:35] I mean, there are more pics with Epstein
[00:17:38] online than there are of me and my wife.
[00:17:41] It's It's There's a lot of pictures of
[00:17:44] those two together.
[00:17:45] >> Of Clinton.
[00:17:46] >> Oh, yeah. Oh, he he owes an explanation.
[00:17:49] I mean, he owes an explanation about how
[00:17:51] many times he saw him. Did he go to the
[00:17:54] island? Was he at any of the parties?
[00:17:57] Does he know, you know, the other thing
[00:17:58] is, does he know other people who were
[00:18:02] uh raping these underage girls? Does he
[00:18:05] know what Epstein's role was? Because,
[00:18:08] you know, there pictures of Epstein at
[00:18:10] the CIA headquarters. I've never been to
[00:18:11] the CIA headquarters.
[00:18:12] >> It's not that impressive. You know, I
[00:18:14] I've
[00:18:16] you've been there. I've been on armed
[00:18:18] services 10 years of the senior person
[00:18:20] of the Armed Services Committee, senior
[00:18:21] person of the China Select Committee.
[00:18:23] I've not met William Burns. He's the was
[00:18:25] the head of our CIA. And you got Epstein
[00:18:28] meeting him. So, I'd want to know from
[00:18:30] uh President Clinton like who is this
[00:18:32] guy? How how is it that he is
[00:18:35] corresponding with uh Modi or people
[00:18:38] like Modi? How is it that he has this
[00:18:40] relationship with Barack? How is it that
[00:18:42] he is at the CIA headquarters? How is it
[00:18:45] that Gordon Brown's government is
[00:18:48] tipping him off? Mendelson is tipping
[00:18:50] him off that the UK is going to buy the
[00:18:55] Euro currency and then uh Epstein is
[00:18:58] trading on it. Someone knows why this
[00:19:01] guy isworked in the way he'sworked. And
[00:19:04] those are questions that we should ask
[00:19:06] uh uh President Clinton.
[00:19:09] What are some of the things in the files
[00:19:11] that just you found? I What are some of
[00:19:14] the big surprises that you saw?
[00:19:16] >> How many people are involved?
[00:19:17] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[00:19:18] >> Like I mean I mean
[00:19:19] >> we've got Jay-Z, Bill Gates, Reed
[00:19:22] Hoffman, Elon Musk, Peter Theal,
[00:19:28] Bill Clinton,
[00:19:30] Serge Bren, like
[00:19:32] >> it's just like my district prominent
[00:19:35] people in Silicon Valley. people who
[00:19:36] think I was political about this. Like
[00:19:39] these are people uh who support
[00:19:42] Democrats. Many of them some of them are
[00:19:44] the biggest donors to Democrats. They're
[00:19:46] more arguably people who have on the
[00:19:48] left who have fallen than right now on
[00:19:50] the right. I mean the the head of Paul
[00:19:52] Weiss, big Democrat, he just uh
[00:19:54] resigned. You've got all of these names
[00:19:57] and and what I have said is I don't care
[00:19:59] where the chips fall. Every single
[00:20:01] person you mentioned, if they are in the
[00:20:03] files, which many of them are, they need
[00:20:05] to be hauled in front of Congress, they
[00:20:07] need to be investigated and they need to
[00:20:08] be asked questions. Did you go on the
[00:20:10] island? Why did you go under oath? By
[00:20:13] the way, what did you see? Who raped
[00:20:15] these underage girls? Were you ever at a
[00:20:18] party where there were underage girls?
[00:20:20] Were you ever at a party where underage
[00:20:21] girls were being paraded naked? And not
[00:20:24] just if you were on the island, if you
[00:20:25] were at his home, if you were on his
[00:20:26] ranch. And look, I don't there may be
[00:20:28] people who are innocent. I'm not saying
[00:20:30] there's due process in this country, but
[00:20:32] how do you not investigate it? How do
[00:20:34] you not sit them down under oath and ask
[00:20:37] them questions? Even Melinda Gates, Bill
[00:20:40] Gates's ex is saying you got to she's
[00:20:42] got to answer questions. And then what
[00:20:43] did they
[00:20:44] >> Did you see that?
[00:20:44] >> Yeah.
[00:20:45] >> He did you see that email chain?
[00:20:47] >> I did.
[00:20:47] >> He was asking for some kind of secret
[00:20:50] what secret antibiotics to slip his wife
[00:20:53] cuz he he gave her an STD or thought he
[00:20:56] gave her an STD and didn't want to
[00:20:58] >> Yeah. I mean, and then his explanation,
[00:21:00] >> [ __ ]
[00:21:00] >> his explanation is, "Oh, Epstein didn't
[00:21:02] send that email. He just drafted it to
[00:21:05] himself and actually didn't hit send."
[00:21:07] Well, I want to see if Bill Gates would
[00:21:09] say that under oath. I want to see if he
[00:21:11] would say that actually if there's an
[00:21:13] investigation. What these guys do is
[00:21:14] they find a convenient journalist to ask
[00:21:18] them a softball question. They do a
[00:21:20] two-minute hit, and then they're hoping,
[00:21:22] "Okay, we're done. we're going to go in
[00:21:24] hiding for 2 years and uh people will
[00:21:26] forget and we've got so much money and
[00:21:29] we fund so many universities and
[00:21:30] nonprofits, they're going to still want
[00:21:32] our money and then we'll rehabilitate
[00:21:33] ourselves.
[00:21:34] >> Do you think that somebody that rapes
[00:21:36] kids do you think that Do you think that
[00:21:38] somebody that rapes kids being does
[00:21:40] being under oath mean anything to them?
[00:21:44] >> Cuz I don't I don't think it means a
[00:21:46] damn thing.
[00:21:46] >> Well, here's the problem for that for
[00:21:48] for people. And I just want to be clear.
[00:21:50] I mean, we don't know which one of these
[00:21:52] people actually raped kids or were on
[00:21:55] islands where young girls were being
[00:21:57] paraded naked or knew that kids were
[00:22:00] being raped. Like, there are a lot of
[00:22:01] people who knew that either Epstein or
[00:22:03] others were being raped and were still
[00:22:04] showing up on this island.
[00:22:05] >> People been calling this [ __ ] out. I
[00:22:06] mean, Nicki Minaj, was it Nicki Minaj
[00:22:09] just came out and said she knew about
[00:22:10] this [ __ ] I mean, lots of people have
[00:22:12] been talking about this stuff, but they
[00:22:14] were always labeled conspiracy
[00:22:16] theorists. But
[00:22:17] >> the guy the guy that cut your previews
[00:22:20] probably knows more about this stuff
[00:22:21] than anybody I've ever talked to on the
[00:22:23] planet,
[00:22:24] >> you know. I thought he was [ __ ]
[00:22:26] crazy.
[00:22:26] >> Massie and I thought we were told we
[00:22:28] were conspiracy theorists. We were going
[00:22:30] to kill our reputations. We were
[00:22:33] pursuing a hoax. And now it turns out,
[00:22:35] you know, the most powerful people in
[00:22:37] this country and around the world were
[00:22:39] implicated. But here's why it matters if
[00:22:40] you have them under oath. Because if you
[00:22:42] get enough of them and they're making
[00:22:44] statements, then there may be
[00:22:45] contradictions. Then if someone says,
[00:22:48] "Oh, yeah, I saw Gates on the island and
[00:22:50] Gates says, "No, I wasn't there."
[00:22:52] They're contradictions. As it as it is,
[00:22:54] there are people who are conveniently
[00:22:55] remembering that they met Epstein more
[00:22:58] than they claimed, right? And they're
[00:22:59] trying to correct the record. Lutnik and
[00:23:02] others are correcting the record. Why?
[00:23:03] Because there's emails that have come
[00:23:05] out. There are other people who are
[00:23:07] testifying. So if you get a hundred of
[00:23:10] these people under oath, you're going to
[00:23:12] find the contradictions. You're going to
[00:23:14] find out who's lying. So I'm not
[00:23:15] counting on their own conscience coming
[00:23:17] clean. I'm counting on the fact that
[00:23:19] there needs to be an investigation.
[00:23:20] There's been no investigation. It's not
[00:23:22] just that they haven't released the
[00:23:23] file. There's no investigation.
[00:23:26] And I don't know, what does it say about
[00:23:28] our country? It says there's a It's
[00:23:30] exactly what we talked about last time.
[00:23:32] There is a two-tier justice system.
[00:23:34] Yeah. And the elites and political
[00:23:36] elites do not fall under same justice
[00:23:39] department that the rest of us do.
[00:23:41] >> There are two Americas. There are two
[00:23:44] tiers of justice. If you're rich, if
[00:23:46] you're powerful, if you fund
[00:23:48] universities and nonprofits, you can do
[00:23:50] the most heinous things. Like you can
[00:23:53] show up to an island where young girls
[00:23:54] are being raped and have no consequence.
[00:23:58] >> I mean, so many people are involved.
[00:24:00] It's almost like it's a requirement to
[00:24:02] do that to get to the places that they
[00:24:05] are. That's how many [ __ ] names are
[00:24:07] of powerful elites are in that are in
[00:24:11] those damn files. You know, I was in a
[00:24:13] call yesterday and someone said
[00:24:14] basically a version of that. They said,
[00:24:15] "You don't understand, Ro. You had to be
[00:24:17] part of this Epstein network to be in
[00:24:19] the club." And he said, "I didn't go,
[00:24:21] but I was tempted to go cuz everyone in
[00:24:24] my peer group was going. And if you
[00:24:26] weren't part of this club, then uh you
[00:24:29] weren't part of elite society. And so
[00:24:32] you have basically a peer pressure to go
[00:24:36] to an island where people know that this
[00:24:39] guy's been a convicted pedophile cuz
[00:24:41] they went after he was convicted and
[00:24:43] they know that young girls are being
[00:24:45] raped. I mean, and and it's the elite in
[00:24:49] Hollywood, and the elite in finance, the
[00:24:52] elite in Silicon Valley, the elite in
[00:24:55] politics, and you talk to the survivors,
[00:24:57] and they say, "We were told you can't
[00:24:58] call the police. You can't call the FBI
[00:25:01] because they know too many powerful
[00:25:03] people." So, you've got an America where
[00:25:06] you got two systems of justice, and
[00:25:10] people resent that. People like you go
[00:25:12] and fight for the country's values. You
[00:25:14] risk your life. And yet these elite
[00:25:17] folks are basically saying, "Yeah, we
[00:25:18] can go to an island where young girls
[00:25:19] are being raped and no one can touch
[00:25:21] us." And they never thought anything
[00:25:23] would come out and we can make lewd
[00:25:25] jokes about it and laugh about it and
[00:25:27] fly to Davos and life goes on. That's
[00:25:30] how they were living. And at the same
[00:25:32] time, people have the same thing on the
[00:25:34] econ economy in this country. Like,
[00:25:36] okay, all the power is in the hands of
[00:25:38] this few folks and you know, I'm
[00:25:40] struggling to make ends meet for my
[00:25:42] family. It's the same sense of a rigged
[00:25:44] America that has led to the kind of
[00:25:46] anger that we see. What do you think is
[00:25:48] going to happen now?
[00:25:51] It depends. I mean, it depends if people
[00:25:53] like you are going to continue to bang
[00:25:54] the drum. That's one of the reasons I'm
[00:25:56] here. What what I'll tell you what these
[00:25:59] elite guys want to have happen. They
[00:26:00] want to do a kind of miaulpa. You know,
[00:26:02] have you seen their statements? I regret
[00:26:04] that I spent too much time with Epstein.
[00:26:08] I regret the judgment I showed to take a
[00:26:10] meeting with Epstein. I regret that I
[00:26:13] took his money. Not like I uh I I am
[00:26:16] ashamed and appalled that uh Epstein was
[00:26:19] raping young girls and there were other
[00:26:21] people part of my network that were
[00:26:22] raping young girls and let me just
[00:26:25] confess at what happened and who did
[00:26:27] this, right? It's like this lawyerly
[00:26:30] statement. So, here's what their game
[00:26:32] plan is. I mean, their game plan is
[00:26:34] let's put these things out. Let's uh
[00:26:36] hope Massie and Kana go away, you know,
[00:26:38] let them bang the drum for a few more
[00:26:40] months. Let this uh all uh fade and then
[00:26:44] two years later, we're going to come
[00:26:45] back. We got too much money. They're
[00:26:47] going to want our money. They're going
[00:26:48] to want our scholarships and we're going
[00:26:50] to be rehabilitated in society. That's
[00:26:53] that's their game plan. And the question
[00:26:54] for the country is, are we going to get
[00:26:56] let them get away with it or are we
[00:26:59] finally going to hold people
[00:27:01] accountable? In Britain, they're holding
[00:27:02] people accountable. They
[00:27:03] >> What are they doing over there? Well,
[00:27:05] Starbur's government makes Andrew's
[00:27:06] gone.
[00:27:07] >> Andrew's gone. At least prince. The
[00:27:09] prince gone. You know, he's got to I I
[00:27:11] think there's got to be more to Andrew
[00:27:13] than just Okay, now you're not a prince.
[00:27:15] That's But at least they at least he's
[00:27:16] not a prince. But he's he's probably got
[00:27:18] to have criminal investigation from the
[00:27:22] stuff I've seen. I think there has to
[00:27:24] actually be an investigation into what
[00:27:26] he did. But but at least they've
[00:27:28] stripped him of his titles. And then
[00:27:30] they've got Mendelson who's resigned
[00:27:32] just today or yesterday. resigned,
[00:27:34] right? There's some consequence.
[00:27:35] Starmer, the prime minister, his
[00:27:37] government may fall. He's lost
[00:27:39] confidence. By the way, he's on the
[00:27:41] left. You know, this is a guy and I I
[00:27:43] said, "Good, good, good. There's
[00:27:45] accountability. This isn't left or
[00:27:47] right. The guys on the left was
[00:27:49] >> I don't even [ __ ] see left or right
[00:27:51] anymore. I just see good and evil and
[00:27:54] that is it. I don't see any of this
[00:27:56] other [ __ ] I think it's all I think,
[00:27:58] you know, Jeremy told me a long time
[00:28:00] ago, politics is WWF wrestling. I truly
[00:28:03] believe that. [ __ ] see it. It's
[00:28:06] disgusting.
[00:28:07] >> It's disgusting.
[00:28:08] >> Yeah. No, I mean, they're good guys and
[00:28:10] bad guys.
[00:28:11] >> But I mean, how how everybody's
[00:28:16] You're saying the American people can't
[00:28:18] let this go. They can't that we have to
[00:28:21] hold them. How do we hold them
[00:28:22] accountable? I mean, I'm You're doing
[00:28:24] your part. I'm doing my part, but we're
[00:28:26] up against a huge system.
[00:28:28] >> Yeah.
[00:28:29] >> That's coming unglued. I mean, there
[00:28:35] is in [ __ ] shambles. It just
[00:28:36] continues to go. I mean, people you
[00:28:40] people talk about revolution, civil war,
[00:28:42] all this [ __ ] It's already happening. I
[00:28:44] mean, look at Minnesota. It's a [ __ ]
[00:28:46] war zone up there.
[00:28:47] >> Was there?
[00:28:48] >> It is. It's a [ __ ] war zone up there.
[00:28:50] I mean, places down on the border. It's
[00:28:53] [ __ ] war zone down. on our cities,
[00:28:54] which we were talking about, you know,
[00:28:56] last time. It's it's
[00:28:58] >> we're pretty damn close and we might be
[00:29:00] in the middle of it already. I mean,
[00:29:02] it's it's it's
[00:29:04] >> we got to turn it around. We got
[00:29:05] >> I That's what I'm saying. We got to turn
[00:29:07] it around, but how? You can't turn it
[00:29:10] around with a [ __ ] two-tier justice
[00:29:12] system. You cannot turn it around when
[00:29:14] we have all these
[00:29:16] elites, powerful tech people, powerful
[00:29:19] Hollywood people, powerful politicians
[00:29:22] just raping kids and getting away with
[00:29:24] it in plain in in in in plain it just
[00:29:28] it's it's right out in the open right in
[00:29:30] front of everybody and they're just
[00:29:33] walking walking around. It's disgusting.
[00:29:36] And I I see your anger. I mean, I see I
[00:29:38] feel it right for people not here. I
[00:29:40] mean, it's like it's a
[00:29:41] >> it makes me want to look into [ __ ]
[00:29:42] dual citizenship. It's that bad. It's
[00:29:45] that [ __ ] bad.
[00:29:46] >> And you wore the uniform. I mean, you
[00:29:48] you gave your
[00:29:49] >> I wore the uniform and I don't even
[00:29:50] believe in the [ __ ] wars I fought for
[00:29:52] because I think those were a lie. I know
[00:29:54] damn well Iraq was a [ __ ] lie. That
[00:29:56] was a ploy to get KPR into [ __ ] Iraq
[00:29:59] cuz uh Dick Cheney,
[00:30:01] >> I agree with that [ __ ] You know, I I
[00:30:03] started my career [ __ ] spent a long
[00:30:05] time there. Every [ __ ] logistics
[00:30:07] piece in the country was KBR.
[00:30:09] Hallebertton, KBR, Hallebert,
[00:30:11] everything, food, like the [ __ ] the
[00:30:15] gasoline, the M, every piece of
[00:30:18] logistics there was KBR. Did we find
[00:30:22] WMDs? [ __ ] no. That war was [ __ ] and
[00:30:25] everybody [ __ ] knows it.
[00:30:27] >> Well, in 2003, I ran against the Iraq
[00:30:29] war against a Democrat in my own party.
[00:30:31] I got crushed 71 to 19. But I was
[00:30:34] against the war back in 2003. And the
[00:30:38] reality is that we've never held people
[00:30:41] accountable in this country. Right? What
[00:30:43] where was the accountability for the
[00:30:44] people who lied us into war in Iraq
[00:30:46] which led to thousands of Americans
[00:30:49] dying? Where was the accountability for
[00:30:51] Abu Graven and the people who committed
[00:30:52] torture in Iraq? Where was the
[00:30:55] accountability for the bankers who
[00:30:56] crashed the entire economy after the
[00:30:59] great recession in Wall Street? No
[00:31:00] accountability. Where is the
[00:31:03] accountability in this country? And now
[00:31:04] people are saying, "Okay, you got these
[00:31:06] elite who are raping young girls or
[00:31:09] showing up while young girls are being
[00:31:11] raped and not saying anything and we
[00:31:13] just want to move on." Hell no. I mean,
[00:31:16] they we will not restore democratic
[00:31:19] trust in this country if we don't have
[00:31:22] accountability for some of these people
[00:31:23] who committed these crimes. That's the
[00:31:25] reality. Yeah. Like I don't care. I want
[00:31:28] a democratic project that has healthc
[00:31:30] care for everyone, childare. You can't
[00:31:32] get there unless you first say we're
[00:31:35] going to hold these people accountable.
[00:31:38] They're going to face justice and we're
[00:31:40] going to try to restore trust that
[00:31:42] there's one tier of justice in America.
[00:31:44] So, so, so seriously though, how how do
[00:31:46] we do this? H what if it goes picture
[00:31:51] perfect, which it's not, but in your
[00:31:53] mind,
[00:31:55] what is the path to success? Who brings
[00:31:58] these people? Who brings these people
[00:32:00] in? Who presses charges on them? Is it
[00:32:02] the FBI? Do all the files need to be
[00:32:04] released? Do the names need to be
[00:32:06] redacted? I mean, how do we start
[00:32:08] charging people?
[00:32:09] >> I think process
[00:32:10] >> I think there are three buckets. First,
[00:32:13] let's start the investigation with just
[00:32:15] the files that have been released,
[00:32:16] right? Like there's a lot that still
[00:32:18] needs to be released that was protected
[00:32:20] and redacted, but there are enough names
[00:32:22] in there that can be investigated. the
[00:32:24] FBI, the DOJ should start to interview
[00:32:27] under oath every single person who is in
[00:32:30] correspondence about going to the ranch
[00:32:32] or the home where there were uh parties
[00:32:35] with underage girls or the island and
[00:32:38] Congress simultaneously should start a
[00:32:40] committee, a subcommittee under the
[00:32:42] oversight uh and announce hearings. I
[00:32:44] don't know why Comr doesn't do that. I
[00:32:45] mean, Comr is all into uh holding
[00:32:48] accountability, fine. He wants to do the
[00:32:49] deposition with the Clintons, fine. Have
[00:32:52] Trump, fine. But what about the hundreds
[00:32:54] of other people? Why aren't we hauling
[00:32:56] them in this year in Congress under
[00:32:58] COMR? I'll vote for every subpoena.
[00:33:00] Nancy May said subpoena Gates. I said
[00:33:02] yes. I will vote for every single
[00:33:05] subpoena and I'll get Democrats to do it
[00:33:06] as well for anyone who's in those files.
[00:33:09] Democratic donor, Republican donor, I
[00:33:11] don't care. I'll vote for a subpoena.
[00:33:12] Bring them in and start to ask them
[00:33:14] under oath. Congress can do that even if
[00:33:16] the the DOJ and FBI doesn't move. That's
[00:33:19] the first step. Second step is uh we
[00:33:22] have a meeting with Blanch, Mace, me,
[00:33:24] Massie, Rasin, and the judiciary. Have
[00:33:27] comr in there, too. And let's start to
[00:33:30] figure out how we get the uh unredacted
[00:33:32] versions that uh are not going to
[00:33:36] protect abusers. You want to protect
[00:33:38] young girls, of course. Don't have the
[00:33:40] nude pictures. Don't have the survivors
[00:33:43] exposed. But give me a break. When you
[00:33:44] have an abuser sending Epstein an email
[00:33:47] about uh what they did with some young
[00:33:50] girl and you have the name of the abuser
[00:33:52] blacked out, come on. We need to get
[00:33:54] that information uh out as a second
[00:33:57] thing and push on the files. And then
[00:33:59] the third thing is simply the public
[00:34:02] shaming and the public accountability.
[00:34:04] Like these people are still not just are
[00:34:07] they walking the streets. They're still
[00:34:09] giving speeches. They're still on
[00:34:11] corporate boards. They're still having
[00:34:14] their gifts accepted by nonprofits and
[00:34:17] universities. They still have buildings
[00:34:19] named after them. Like when are we going
[00:34:22] to have more accountability? At least
[00:34:23] with Paul Weiss where Brad Karp
[00:34:25] resigned. When are we going to have some
[00:34:27] of these people out of the positions of
[00:34:31] influence and honor that they're
[00:34:33] currently in? That doesn't require
[00:34:34] Trump's Justice Department. That doesn't
[00:34:36] require Congress. That requires all of
[00:34:38] us as Americans. And I guess the
[00:34:40] question is, are we going to be so
[00:34:42] blinded by their money, so blinded by
[00:34:45] what they can do for our universities,
[00:34:48] our nonprofits, our civil society that
[00:34:51] we say, "Ah, just let them have a pass."
[00:34:52] or are we actually going to hold him
[00:34:54] accountable?
[00:34:56] It's easy to hold Larry Summers
[00:34:58] accountable because he doesn't have a
[00:34:59] lot of money and he's a professor. Okay,
[00:35:01] he's being held accountable. Or Brad
[00:35:03] Carp, he's a lawyer. Fine, he's being
[00:35:05] held accountable. But when you've got
[00:35:07] billions, when you're one of these
[00:35:08] people who has a lot of money, then it's
[00:35:11] a choice. Like, okay, money or young
[00:35:15] girls,
[00:35:16] where are we going to stand,
[00:35:20] man?
[00:35:22] Did you watch that interview with uh
[00:35:24] Epstein and Bannon by chance?
[00:35:26] >> I watched some of it.
[00:35:27] >> What' you think of that?
[00:35:29] >> I mean, I don't know why Bannon was
[00:35:31] doing that. Like, what the hell? Like,
[00:35:33] what what after to resuscitate
[00:35:36] uh revi revive his reputation?
[00:35:40] >> Did you see when he asked him if he
[00:35:41] thought he was the devil?
[00:35:43] >> I I I I saw that clip.
[00:35:45] >> Is that [ __ ] crazy?
[00:35:46] >> I mean, and it was kind of like laughing
[00:35:48] about it, right?
[00:35:49] >> I mean, that's the emails. It's sort of
[00:35:51] like they're laughing about his evil
[00:35:53] evilness. Not just Bannon, but like
[00:35:55] other powerful people. Haha. Like this.
[00:35:58] Haha, you're abusing young girls. Bring
[00:36:01] How many people wrote like, "Bring the
[00:36:02] young girls. Bring your harum with you.
[00:36:05] Oh yeah, we know this is evil things."
[00:36:06] It's like they're celebrating his uh
[00:36:10] sickness. They are celebrating his
[00:36:12] sickness. They're all
[00:36:14] They're all part of this stuff. What do
[00:36:16] you think about has your opinion changed
[00:36:19] on where Epstein's from, who he's
[00:36:20] working with since our last interview?
[00:36:23] You asked me what I thought. I told you
[00:36:25] I think he's a MSAD agent for Israel.
[00:36:27] >> Yeah. And I genuinely don't know the
[00:36:30] answer to that specific question, but
[00:36:32] what I will say is this. Why is he at
[00:36:34] the CIA? Why is he meeting Will Burns?
[00:36:38] Why is he talking to Mendelson at the
[00:36:40] highest levels of the British government
[00:36:42] who was working for Gordon Brown? Why is
[00:36:44] he talking about Modi the prime minister
[00:36:46] of India in going to Israel? Why is he
[00:36:50] talking about Palunteer and Palanteer's
[00:36:52] investments in our national security?
[00:36:55] Why is he affiliating with Barack so
[00:36:57] much that just today Prime Minister
[00:37:00] Netanyahu is making a statement?
[00:37:02] >> What did he say? What did Netanyahu say
[00:37:04] today?
[00:37:04] >> Netanyahu said that Barack was trying to
[00:37:07] undermine the Israeli government and
[00:37:09] that's why he was meeting with Jeffrey
[00:37:12] Epste.
[00:37:13] >> Okay. I mean that that was like how do
[00:37:16] you have one person that that I guess
[00:37:17] this is what I want to really
[00:37:19] >> did he say that there or did he did he
[00:37:20] come to the White House to say that
[00:37:23] >> been to the White House quite a few
[00:37:24] times. It's kind of weird how much he's
[00:37:26] at the White House.
[00:37:27] >> Yeah. I don't I don't understand why why
[00:37:29] any uh leader should be at the the White
[00:37:33] House that much. I mean the United
[00:37:34] States should be driving our foreign
[00:37:36] policy with our interests. But the the
[00:37:39] point is and and you know I've been very
[00:37:41] outspoken that my view I don't know
[00:37:44] yours is that what Israel did in Gaza
[00:37:46] was a genocide. I I I do not believe
[00:37:48] that we should have been
[00:37:49] >> 100% with you Ro
[00:37:51] >> 100% with you. It's [ __ ] disgusting.
[00:37:53] How many kids got killed?
[00:37:55] >> There's thousands.
[00:37:57] >> 20,000 kids.
[00:37:59] 20,000 kids.
[00:38:01] >> And you're in my tax dollars went for
[00:38:02] that. You know I voted no. I voted I was
[00:38:04] one of 37 Democrats who voted no on the
[00:38:06] 14 billion. That's why we don't want to
[00:38:08] raise taxes, bro. Can't be killing
[00:38:10] [ __ ] kids. Can't be sending political
[00:38:12] elites to uh rape kids.
[00:38:16] >> But the uh
[00:38:17] >> Sorry, I'm losing by I'm getting [ __ ]
[00:38:19] pissed.
[00:38:20] >> But, you know, I mean, I the the the
[00:38:22] question that has to be asked is why is
[00:38:24] this guy Epstein, why does he have so
[00:38:28] much access to the most powerful people
[00:38:30] in the world? like what you know he's
[00:38:32] he's operating at a level of power
[00:38:34] certainly beyond anyone in Congress
[00:38:36] certainly beyond any senator. I mean
[00:38:38] he's operating literally at a level of
[00:38:40] power of a a head of state and
[00:38:43] >> the president. It's insane. I mean you
[00:38:46] in that interview he's talking about
[00:38:47] when the financial uh the 2008 collapse
[00:38:50] happened he's got who did he have on the
[00:38:52] phone? he had in jail. He's got I think
[00:38:55] he said like Beer Sterns in one hand and
[00:38:58] JP Morgan on the other literally talking
[00:39:00] to them at the same time about what's
[00:39:02] going on, right?
[00:39:03] >> I mean, why the [ __ ] are are the leaders
[00:39:07] of those financial institutions calling
[00:39:10] an inmate in prison to figure out what
[00:39:12] the hell is going on?
[00:39:13] >> A pedophile. Yeah,
[00:39:14] >> a pedophile that they were all hanging
[00:39:16] out with. And then and then Gordon
[00:39:18] Brown's
[00:39:20] Mendelson is his his aid is giving uh
[00:39:23] Epstein tips before UK acts that they're
[00:39:27] going to bail out the euro and uh
[00:39:30] Epstein is engaged in trading on on that
[00:39:33] information. I mean it's it's it's it's
[00:39:36] mindboggling that uh this guy had this
[00:39:40] kind of power and your point about like
[00:39:43] how did he accumulate that power is is
[00:39:46] in my view the central question. They're
[00:39:47] two big questions. one, like how do we
[00:39:49] have an elite that basically thinks it's
[00:39:51] okay to uh show up to an island where
[00:39:54] young girls are being raped and how is
[00:39:55] it possible that everyone in all our
[00:39:58] society from finance to arts to
[00:40:00] Hollywood to tech to real estate is
[00:40:03] caught up in this mess? Like it's
[00:40:04] disgusting. But then the second issue is
[00:40:07] who is this guy Epstein? How does he
[00:40:09] have this kind of access? That's not
[00:40:11] conspiratorial. Now we have the the
[00:40:14] >> So, you know how we install straw men in
[00:40:16] foreign countries to control it?
[00:40:18] >> Yeah. I mean, we have
[00:40:20] >> That's how this happens, Ro.
[00:40:22] >> That's how this happens.
[00:40:25] >> What do you mean by that?
[00:40:26] >> He was installed
[00:40:28] >> in the US.
[00:40:32] I mean, look, I I think we need to ask
[00:40:35] all the questions. I I I I try to stick
[00:40:39] to what I know, but the these files have
[00:40:43] made me
[00:40:44] >> just giving you stuff to think about.
[00:40:45] >> Yeah. I mean, these files have made me
[00:40:47] question why he has this kind of access
[00:40:50] to these many foreign leaders. Uh why he
[00:40:54] has this kind of access to our CIA, why
[00:40:57] he's involved in some of the most
[00:40:59] critical investments in companies like
[00:41:01] Palanteer or others that are now uh so
[00:41:05] in in enshrined in our national
[00:41:07] security? Why is he so connected to some
[00:41:11] of the enormous tech leaders like it?
[00:41:15] Why is why is he connected to the most
[00:41:18] powerful people in finance and real
[00:41:20] estate? You can't just someone's like,
[00:41:21] "Oh, he's just collects rich and people
[00:41:23] in elites." No, this is not just a
[00:41:26] socialite. You know, you don't have a
[00:41:28] socialite doesn't get to go speak to
[00:41:30] heads of state and get uh to talk to
[00:41:33] every billionaire uh and get to talk to
[00:41:35] the most powerful people and direct that
[00:41:37] kind of attention. And that's that's an
[00:41:40] unanswered question. And that should be
[00:41:41] the investigation. There should probably
[00:41:43] be a commission pre the president next
[00:41:46] president or this president should
[00:41:48] appoint a commission to understand who
[00:41:51] Jeffrey Epstein was and what his motives
[00:41:53] were and why he was operating. That's a
[00:41:55] national security question.
[00:41:56] >> That's I think this is the biggest
[00:41:58] concern in national security that we
[00:42:00] have right now.
[00:42:02] >> Well, it's it's a concern certainly in
[00:42:04] terms of us being compromised. Right. If
[00:42:05] you believe, as I do, as the top
[00:42:07] Democrat on the China committee, that
[00:42:09] China is our competition and that we
[00:42:11] need to win and that we need to be ahead
[00:42:13] of them on technology, we need to be
[00:42:15] ahead of them on AI, we need to be ahead
[00:42:17] of them when it comes to the economy. If
[00:42:19] we're compromised from the inside, and
[00:42:22] if it's possible to compromise us from
[00:42:24] the inside, then that's a real problem.
[00:42:26] If you have an elite that can be seen as
[00:42:30] going to an island that's so immature,
[00:42:32] reckless, self-entitled, arrogant that
[00:42:35] they can go to a island where young
[00:42:37] girls are being raped, then you wonder
[00:42:39] can that what does that say about our
[00:42:41] ability to have the seriousness of moral
[00:42:44] purpose to compete with China? They
[00:42:46] they've got a worse system. They've got
[00:42:48] a communist system, an authoritarian
[00:42:50] system, but their leaders, from what I
[00:42:53] know, weren't showing up to Epstein's
[00:42:54] Island, right? And so, you know, this is
[00:42:57] a question of like what kind of
[00:42:59] leadership are we producing to make sure
[00:43:01] America stays the great nation in the
[00:43:04] world. People were never perfect. like
[00:43:07] FDR had affairs, Kennedy had affairs,
[00:43:09] but it's the pettiness, the immaturity,
[00:43:12] the total depravity of doing it with
[00:43:15] raping young girls and the
[00:43:17] frivvilousness of it that really is a
[00:43:20] mirror on like America's place, moral
[00:43:23] place in in in the world at this moment.
[00:43:25] >> What is the what is the what's the pulse
[00:43:27] in Congress most
[00:43:29] >> discuss genuine disgust shock?
[00:43:32] >> Both sides
[00:43:33] >> both sides both sides.
[00:43:34] >> Anybody for it? Anybody for what's
[00:43:37] happening?
[00:43:38] >> You know, honestly, and and because I'm
[00:43:39] trying to
[00:43:40] >> You mean for protecting pedophiles? Is
[00:43:42] there anybody in Congress that is voting
[00:43:44] against releasing this [ __ ] or that's
[00:43:47] totally against it that wants to protect
[00:43:48] pedophiles? Let's get their names out.
[00:43:51] You know, there was one guy who voted
[00:43:52] against Massie in my bill, but I think
[00:43:54] he in fairness, he just thought it that
[00:43:57] uh it should have been done in a
[00:43:58] different way. I I don't think he was
[00:44:00] actually for protecting pedophiles in in
[00:44:03] honesty. I think the reality is that
[00:44:06] most of the people in Congress have been
[00:44:07] pretty shaken by the release. Most of
[00:44:10] them are pretty disgusted by what took
[00:44:12] place. And the question is, are they
[00:44:14] going to have the guts to go after these
[00:44:17] people? What are the barriers? Well,
[00:44:20] you're going after donors. You're going
[00:44:22] after donors to both parties. You're
[00:44:24] going after Democratic donors and you're
[00:44:26] going after uh Republican donors. These
[00:44:29] are people who give a lot of money
[00:44:31] >> and you don't want to, you know, it's a
[00:44:32] it's it's not convenient to go after
[00:44:34] them. Secondly, uh you got Trump saying
[00:44:37] move on.
[00:44:38] >> Let me hold on. I just want to I would
[00:44:40] like to add something to that. So any so
[00:44:43] if anybody is against that because of
[00:44:45] going to their donors, they do not have
[00:44:48] what's best for the country in their
[00:44:50] heart. They have what's best for them
[00:44:52] and that is it. That's all they [ __ ]
[00:44:55] care about is staying in Congress,
[00:44:57] staying in the Senate, staying wherever
[00:44:58] they're at. It's not for the country,
[00:45:00] it's for themselves. If that's what's
[00:45:02] [ __ ] happening, every one of these
[00:45:05] son of a [ __ ] need to be [ __ ]
[00:45:06] voted out cuz they're in it for
[00:45:08] themselves.
[00:45:09] >> Yeah. And that's
[00:45:10] >> Talk about your donors.
[00:45:11] >> It's the donors as they're concerned for
[00:45:12] themselves and their party and they they
[00:45:14] don't vote, right? They just stay quiet
[00:45:16] or don't rock the boat. That's the
[00:45:19] secret in Washington. It's not that you
[00:45:21] cast bad votes. It's that you block
[00:45:23] stuff from even coming for a vote. So,
[00:45:25] no one knows. No one knows that you're
[00:45:28] the one protecting these people. But,
[00:45:30] you know, why isn't every single person
[00:45:32] on the oversight committee doing what
[00:45:34] Nancy May said, which is telling COMR,
[00:45:37] look, go start hearings on this,
[00:45:39] subpoena everyone. Comr, you could be a
[00:45:41] national hero. You could you could take
[00:45:43] what Massie and I did with the release
[00:45:45] of the files and you could say, I'm
[00:45:46] gonna hold starting tomorrow Bill Gates
[00:45:48] in front of this committee and we're
[00:45:49] going to have hearings, not just the
[00:45:51] Clintons. Fine, have everyone.
[00:45:53] >> A lot of people could could
[00:45:56] >> take the hero card right now.
[00:45:58] >> Yeah.
[00:45:58] >> Not JD Vance.
[00:46:00] >> Vance great if he came out and said
[00:46:02] something.
[00:46:03] >> I' I' I'd pray
[00:46:04] >> anybody inside the administration. Ju
[00:46:06] [ __ ] Just come out and say something
[00:46:08] like holy [ __ ] Does he really have that
[00:46:11] much of a wrath over you? Like [ __ ]
[00:46:14] hey, this I thought it was a free
[00:46:16] country. Guess it's not.
[00:46:19] >> And then that's the second thing. So,
[00:46:20] it's the fear of the donors and it's
[00:46:22] fear of Trump cuz Trump keeps saying,
[00:46:23] "Oh, let's just move on. Let's move on."
[00:46:26] And they're afraid that if they really
[00:46:29] uh go after this Epstein stuff that uh
[00:46:32] they they can have Trump's wrath and
[00:46:34] it's not theoretical. I mean, Trump
[00:46:35] takes a shot at Massie in every other
[00:46:38] speech and he has now endorsed someone
[00:46:40] running against Massie. I think when
[00:46:42] Massie wins, that'll hopefully give
[00:46:45] courage to some of the the other uh
[00:46:47] Republicans who are afraid of Trump and
[00:46:49] Trump's not going to be there that much
[00:46:50] longer. I mean, he's got three years.
[00:46:52] So, what about thinking beyond Trump
[00:46:54] like Marjorie Taylor Green was? But this
[00:46:56] is the reason that you don't have more
[00:46:59] action in Congress. It's the money. It's
[00:47:00] the fear of Trump. It's people saying
[00:47:02] move on. Uh and some people are saying,
[00:47:04] "Okay, if we move on in two years, I may
[00:47:07] want some of these people's support. I
[00:47:09] don't want a billionaire super PAC
[00:47:11] coming against me. You know, there are
[00:47:12] three billionaire super PACs coming
[00:47:15] against uh Massie. And by the way, we
[00:47:18] discussed the the billionaire tax last
[00:47:20] time. We can we had a good spirited
[00:47:22] conversation. But look at the people who
[00:47:24] are attacking me and look at the
[00:47:26] correlation between that and the Epste
[00:47:27] files. I don't think it was about, you
[00:47:29] know, some tax. I mean that that they
[00:47:31] have legitimate arguments. This is about
[00:47:34] uh being exposed as utterly devoid of
[00:47:38] morality. And if someone just looks at
[00:47:40] the tweets and the people are tweeting
[00:47:42] against me and you look at the people
[00:47:44] you mention in those files, suddenly
[00:47:46] there's a correlation. It didn't occur
[00:47:48] to me until I saw those files cuz I
[00:47:49] didn't think that there were that many
[00:47:52] people in Silicon Valley in those files.
[00:47:54] I was naive. I thought that most people
[00:47:56] were from New York cuz Epstein was in
[00:47:58] New York. I knew there were real estate
[00:48:00] folks. I knew there were finance folks.
[00:48:02] I knew there were Clinton was in it. I
[00:48:04] knew that Trump was in it. I knew there
[00:48:06] were Barack was in it. I knew some of
[00:48:08] the politicians. But it shocked me. It
[00:48:10] stunned me how many people from
[00:48:11] California are in it.
[00:48:13] >> Might be on to something there. I will
[00:48:14] tell you a lot of people are still
[00:48:16] pissed about the tax thing. I know.
[00:48:18] >> Me included. But like I said, get rid of
[00:48:20] the [ __ ] waste, fraud, and abuse. And
[00:48:22] when we start seeing our country
[00:48:24] flourish because of the taxes that we're
[00:48:26] paying, I'm all in, bro. I'll pay I'll
[00:48:29] pay. I'm all I mean I guess I have to be
[00:48:31] all in no matter what, right? But but
[00:48:34] but seriously, I would be for it if I
[00:48:37] saw our country flourish because of
[00:48:38] higher taxes. Unfortunately,
[00:48:41] the country is going like this and the
[00:48:43] taxes are going, you know, and it just
[00:48:45] it it's it's it's I'm just not seeing
[00:48:48] it. See it all go to Somalia, Israel,
[00:48:50] Ukraine, [ __ ] these stupid programs.
[00:48:54] It's all over the place, but it's not
[00:48:55] it's not going to where it needs to go.
[00:48:57] >> Well, I do agree with you. We need to
[00:48:59] show people like me who believe that the
[00:49:01] rich should pay more need to show
[00:49:02] accountability, right? Like cuz we got
[00:49:04] to show that no, we're not just going to
[00:49:06] give this blank check to Netanyahu to
[00:49:08] kill kids. We've got to show that we're
[00:49:10] taking on the waste and the fraud and
[00:49:13] the abuse that's taking place. And I I
[00:49:16] and that's why I said we've got to
[00:49:17] restore the trust that starts with
[00:49:19] holding some of these elite people
[00:49:21] accountable. So then I can go to someone
[00:49:23] like you. I mean, I think you'd pay more
[00:49:24] taxes if I said is really going to cover
[00:49:26] someone who doesn't have healthcare. The
[00:49:28] problem is that right now people feel
[00:49:30] like even if they're paying more tax,
[00:49:32] their money isn't going to actually help
[00:49:34] Americans who want education or
[00:49:37] healthcare. And that that is our
[00:49:39] challenge as a as a country. And it's a
[00:49:40] bigger challenge for a Democrat like me
[00:49:43] who believes that we should have a
[00:49:44] strong safety net of healthcare and
[00:49:46] education. That's why I think the
[00:49:48] highest priority right now has to be
[00:49:50] holding these elites accountable. At
[00:49:51] least we start somewhere.
[00:49:55] >> I guess we start right here, huh? This
[00:49:58] is this is this is hopefully more people
[00:50:01] start taking this [ __ ] seriously.
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[00:53:29] I was talking about that VC woman Masha
[00:53:32] Booker earlier and we had interviewed
[00:53:35] her here and I never released the
[00:53:37] interview cuz she didn't pass the sniff
[00:53:39] test. I just thought she was completely
[00:53:40] full of [ __ ] We found something that
[00:53:43] said she was tied to Epstein and she got
[00:53:45] very uncomfortable in the interview and
[00:53:47] wanted it pulled out and I said, "We're
[00:53:49] not pulling it out. We're not pulling it
[00:53:51] out or we're not releasing anything at
[00:53:53] all."
[00:53:54] >> I can't believe people asked you to
[00:53:55] withhold stuff. I've never
[00:53:57] >> we don't The only time I do that is when
[00:53:59] I'm talking to somebody that was at at
[00:54:03] in special ops or the agency that says
[00:54:06] something that was on an operation that
[00:54:09] they're like I I don't think that's
[00:54:12] to protect our troops or
[00:54:14] >> and so that's the only time uh that I'll
[00:54:16] do it. But with her she didn't I just me
[00:54:19] and Jeremy me and the whole team had a
[00:54:21] long talk. It was like, I just I think
[00:54:23] this whole thing's [ __ ] And uh so
[00:54:25] we didn't release it. Well, turns out it
[00:54:28] was all [ __ ] because I can't even
[00:54:31] remember what she said in the interview.
[00:54:33] It was basically like, oh no, what what
[00:54:35] did she say? Do you remember?
[00:54:36] >> Yeah. It said that she was working PR in
[00:54:39] New York and she was introduced to
[00:54:41] Jeffrey Epste and it was totally
[00:54:42] innocent. That's
[00:54:44] turns out she was his PR agent. In fact,
[00:54:46] there was a big article that just came
[00:54:47] out, right?
[00:54:48] >> In Forbes this morning.
[00:54:49] >> It's in Forbes. That was all in the
[00:54:50] files.
[00:54:51] >> It's in Forbes. And you know, and so I
[00:54:54] want to ask you, you know, we looked at
[00:54:56] a lot of her emails cuz she was a former
[00:54:58] guest. We're probably going to release
[00:55:00] the interview now.
[00:55:01] >> You should.
[00:55:01] >> We're just going to have to do a little
[00:55:03] a little dialogue at the beginning kind
[00:55:05] of explaining what this all is. But
[00:55:07] >> there was a lot of
[00:55:10] a lot of back and forth emails with her
[00:55:12] and she wanted to do DNA tests
[00:55:16] and Yeah, she wanted to do DNA tests
[00:55:18] from uh what's that? What's that
[00:55:20] website? J 23 and me.
[00:55:22] >> And she only wanted to work with people
[00:55:24] that are 98% Jewish or more.
[00:55:27] >> And then
[00:55:28] >> I don't know. She thinks they're
[00:55:29] smarter. She says they're smarter than
[00:55:31] all the rest of us.
[00:55:32] >> She said that on the Oh, it's in one of
[00:55:34] the emails.
[00:55:35] >> Yep.
[00:55:36] >> Well, that's that's just
[00:55:37] >> we'll put the email up right now so
[00:55:40] everybody can see. I wish I had it. I
[00:55:42] I'll show it to you after this. But but
[00:55:44] in those emails, there's a lot of stuff.
[00:55:47] Uh what are these? Goyam [ __ ] Do you
[00:55:51] know what this is?
[00:55:53] >> I mean I I've heard the term, but what
[00:55:55] what does it mean? It's a I think it
[00:55:58] means slaves, right?
[00:56:01] >> Nation cattle. There's
[00:56:02] >> nation cattle.
[00:56:03] >> It's it's a slur. It's a slur.
[00:56:05] >> Yeah, it's it's a racial slur to
[00:56:08] everybody that's not Jewish. This is in
[00:56:11] these files like
[00:56:13] >> And she's saying this
[00:56:14] >> everywhere, not just her. Epstein.
[00:56:17] Epstein's talking to the former prime
[00:56:18] minister of Israel
[00:56:21] and
[00:56:23] what is that? What's going on? And then
[00:56:26] we see all these these laws being passed
[00:56:29] here in the states for anti-semitism.
[00:56:32] What what about the rest of us? Aren't
[00:56:34] we protecting the rest of us? What is
[00:56:37] that?
[00:56:37] >> Well, look, I I I think we've got to get
[00:56:39] back to the basic principles of this
[00:56:42] country. I'm of Hindu faith,
[00:56:43] Indian-American, born in Philadelphia.
[00:56:46] you treat every person with equality and
[00:56:48] respect whether you're Christian,
[00:56:50] whether you're Jewish, whether you're
[00:56:52] Hindu, whether you're Muslim. Uh and uh
[00:56:55] are there cases of anti-semitism in
[00:56:58] America? Yes, there are.
[00:56:59] >> Yeah, there are. I'm not going to argue
[00:57:01] that. And and have there been incidents?
[00:57:03] Yes. But uh is there an arrogance in
[00:57:06] Silicon Valley beyond just these emails
[00:57:10] of some people who think they're better
[00:57:12] than other human beings? That to me is
[00:57:15] the fundamental construct, right? That
[00:57:18] is that that needs to be uh challenged
[00:57:20] that uh you're not better just because
[00:57:24] you may be rich. You're not better just
[00:57:26] because you may have been a billionaire.
[00:57:29] You're not better just because you're
[00:57:31] part of the Epstein network. Like I have
[00:57:33] so much more respect for people who wear
[00:57:35] the nation's uniform, who uh keep our
[00:57:38] country safe, for firefighters, for law
[00:57:41] enforcement, for nurses, for EMT
[00:57:45] workers, for teachers, you know, the
[00:57:47] people who built this country, steel
[00:57:50] workers, uh people on the factory
[00:57:53] floors, and we have lost that sense of
[00:57:56] respect for people who really through
[00:57:59] hard work built America, right? And I I
[00:58:01] think about how I grew up in Bucks
[00:58:03] County, teachers, little league coaches,
[00:58:05] right? And they never had a shot, never
[00:58:07] dreamed of going and making millions of
[00:58:09] dollars. I don't have a problem with
[00:58:11] people going and becoming rich and
[00:58:13] starting companies, but this sense that
[00:58:15] you're better than folks, that the rules
[00:58:17] don't apply to you, and the sense that
[00:58:19] the the the the economy should just work
[00:58:21] for you. Some people say like, "Yeah,
[00:58:23] they they should get to call the shots,
[00:58:25] that they have some kind of god-given
[00:58:27] right to rule or lead, that America will
[00:58:29] be better off with them in charge." And
[00:58:32] I fundamentally reject that. And that is
[00:58:34] the the tale of two Americas is the
[00:58:36] problem, I think, in this country. It's
[00:58:38] why people voted for Bernie. It's why
[00:58:40] people voted for Trump. They're sick of
[00:58:42] it. They they they want to be seen for
[00:58:45] the people who actually built America,
[00:58:47] the forgotten Americans. And Trump
[00:58:48] campaigned on that. And people are like,
[00:58:50] "Well, what what now? Why aren't you
[00:58:53] going after these people? You said you
[00:58:54] were going to tear them down. You said
[00:58:56] you said you were going to hold this
[00:58:57] corrupt system accountable, drain the
[00:58:59] swamp. What happened?" It was all
[00:59:01] [ __ ] Why do you think Why do you
[00:59:04] think that Why are they protecting the
[00:59:07] abusers? Why did they Why Why didn't
[00:59:10] those names come out? Why are the little
[00:59:13] black lines over all the real important
[00:59:15] [ __ ] What? Honest honestly, what do you
[00:59:18] think that is? powerful. They're very
[00:59:20] powerful. One person talked about a name
[00:59:23] who is in the files who hasn't gotten
[00:59:24] attention. I don't want to say the name,
[00:59:26] but uh who said that this guy is so
[00:59:28] powerful in New York that everyone fears
[00:59:30] them. And I think that the names that
[00:59:32] probably aren't in uh haven't been
[00:59:34] released yet or blacked out. They're
[00:59:36] probably people who are very very
[00:59:37] powerful who have uh financial interests
[00:59:40] who have who may maybe they're saying,
[00:59:42] "Look, you come you you put our name out
[00:59:44] and we're going to talk about who else
[00:59:46] was involved. who are going to spill the
[00:59:48] beans about more of what what what is
[00:59:50] there. And so I think they were actually
[00:59:52] very clever. What they did is they put
[00:59:54] out enough and they put out a lot of bad
[00:59:56] stuff that people would say, "Well, that
[00:59:58] was a legitimate release." You ask me,
[01:00:00] "Is it a legitimate release?" Yeah, they
[01:00:02] put out a lot of stuff. It was pretty
[01:00:04] bad. I didn't expect even that we'd get
[01:00:06] this far, but then they didn't put out
[01:00:07] the nuclear stuff. And so this is a way
[01:00:10] of saying, "Yeah, it's it's not BS." I
[01:00:12] mean, if I go to a judge saying, "Oh,
[01:00:14] they didn't release the files." No, we
[01:00:15] released the files. and a judge audience
[01:00:18] of documents. They've called out a lot
[01:00:20] of people who are powerful folks. But
[01:00:22] what they do by that diversionary tactic
[01:00:25] is they can keep the the worst of it
[01:00:28] secret. And now it's harder for Massie
[01:00:31] or me or the survivors to say, "Let's
[01:00:33] still get all the files." So, someone is
[01:00:35] being very sophisticated in giving us
[01:00:39] just enough to pass the the test but
[01:00:43] keeping uh the most powerful people
[01:00:45] protected. And this is a question that
[01:00:47] we need answered. I mean, why are these
[01:00:49] people being protected? Who are they?
[01:00:52] What what power do they have? What do
[01:00:54] they know? Cuz politically, it makes no
[01:00:56] sense. Why wouldn't you release this
[01:00:57] stuff?
[01:00:58] >> You think there's people more powerful
[01:00:59] than the than the ones that are already
[01:01:00] in there? I mean, the the
[01:01:02] >> Yes. Yes. I think there are people who
[01:01:04] are more powerful or have more
[01:01:07] information or are more connected into
[01:01:09] some of these networks that that haven't
[01:01:11] been released. There's no other
[01:01:12] explanation. I mean, I'm willing to
[01:01:14] listen to Blanch because he's saying we
[01:01:16] can see the unredacted files, but
[01:01:17] there's no other explanation for having
[01:01:19] an email to Jeffrey Epstein with the
[01:01:22] abuser's name blacked out and the email
[01:01:25] just says I I I enjoyed the the the
[01:01:28] naughty girl you sent or I enjoyed the
[01:01:31] Brazilian w girl. Like, why are you
[01:01:34] blacking that out? Or you know, you have
[01:01:37] my permission to kill blacked out. Why?
[01:01:41] Who are you think? going to kill.
[01:01:44] >> Yeah. You think it's survivors?
[01:01:45] >> Did they kill?
[01:01:46] >> You know, you think it's
[01:01:47] >> Aren't they saying there's bodies buried
[01:01:49] at the uh New Mexico ranch?
[01:01:50] >> There were emails about that. And there
[01:01:52] there this is and and so there's
[01:01:54] >> I'll bet there's no excavators over
[01:01:56] there right now looking for anything.
[01:01:58] >> Where how do you not investigate it, you
[01:02:00] know? Oh, Blanch says, "Well, they're
[01:02:03] just men partying."
[01:02:03] >> I wonder who owns that ranch now. Do you
[01:02:05] know?
[01:02:06] >> I do not know.
[01:02:06] >> I wonder if we could find that out.
[01:02:08] Bring them in. Maybe they can do their
[01:02:10] own.
[01:02:10] >> Maybe you do the investigation here. I
[01:02:12] mean, on this podcast, I mean, I But but
[01:02:15] the point is you don't have you you can
[01:02:17] get people voluntarily, but you don't
[01:02:19] have the you've done more than the DOJ's
[01:02:21] done, but you don't have the power to
[01:02:22] subpoena. Congress has the power to
[01:02:24] subpoena. The we have such power to
[01:02:27] subpoena that Bill Clinton, a former
[01:02:29] president, caved and is now coming and
[01:02:31] testifying in Congress. You don't think
[01:02:33] that we could exercise that same power
[01:02:35] with all of these people who are in the
[01:02:37] files?
[01:02:38] >> But why do you think the DOJ isn't doing
[01:02:40] anything? Cuz shouldn't they be the ones
[01:02:41] that are indicting people?
[01:02:43] >> They should. They should. They should.
[01:02:44] >> Who they indicted?
[01:02:46] >> They haven't indicted a single person.
[01:02:48] >> Really? So post they said, "Oh, he's a
[01:02:50] dead guy and let's move on." They have
[01:02:52] not released the names of the
[01:02:53] co-conspirators who they should have
[01:02:55] indicted. They have not released the
[01:02:57] names of the people they should have
[01:02:59] prosecuted and let alone they've done
[01:03:02] nothing to investigate these people. And
[01:03:04] I I don't know why. like they they say,
[01:03:07] "Okay, there's no they don't they it
[01:03:10] doesn't rise to a criminal level." Well,
[01:03:12] how do you know if you haven't
[01:03:14] investigated it? Have you called these
[01:03:15] people in and have you asked them
[01:03:18] questions about where they were? What
[01:03:20] did they do? What did they know? I don't
[01:03:22] think you have. I know you haven't
[01:03:23] because these people would would be
[01:03:25] saying that they were already cooperated
[01:03:27] with law enforcement. So, you have I
[01:03:29] mean, just think about this rationally.
[01:03:31] You have all these files. You got rich
[01:03:33] people, powerful people talking about
[01:03:35] being on the island. You're
[01:03:37] investigating the case back in 2007 or
[01:03:40] in 2019. Doesn't it say, "Okay, I'm
[01:03:43] going to send an FBI agent or uh someone
[01:03:46] to talk to these powerful people about
[01:03:49] Epstein just to understand what was
[01:03:50] going on." You don't have to. I mean,
[01:03:52] and they didn't do any of this. Why?
[01:03:54] Because they were intimidated. Because
[01:03:56] these people were at the Davos
[01:04:00] conferences together. they were uh
[01:04:03] financing the same politicians together.
[01:04:06] You got Donald Trump saying, "Oh, Bill
[01:04:08] Clinton shouldn't testify because he
[01:04:09] doesn't want to testify." You know, it's
[01:04:10] all the same club.
[01:04:12] >> That's a good point. That's a good
[01:04:13] point.
[01:04:14] >> It's a club and they don't want that
[01:04:16] club to to be pierced, to be broken.
[01:04:21] It's people who have power in this
[01:04:23] country and people who don't.
[01:04:25] >> How long have you realized it's one
[01:04:26] club?
[01:04:28] I've had a sense, but it's be it's
[01:04:30] become more and more obvious to me with
[01:04:31] these files. I I was shocked at the
[01:04:34] extent of it in these files. I mean, I
[01:04:36] was like, how is every prominent person
[01:04:39] in some way connected? It's just absurd.
[01:04:42] I mean, I do I think everyone in those
[01:04:43] files was a pedophile. No. But like, you
[01:04:46] none of you had the judgment after
[01:04:49] Epstein was a convicted pedophile to
[01:04:51] say, you know what? Like, yeah, I don't
[01:04:53] want to show up to his island. I don't
[01:04:55] want to show up to a party where I hear
[01:04:56] they're young girls. Like, how is it?
[01:04:59] It's your your membership in that club
[01:05:01] was so important to you that you didn't
[01:05:04] have a minute to pause and say, "Yeah,
[01:05:07] maybe I shouldn't be showing up to a
[01:05:09] pedophile's house." Right? It's it's
[01:05:11] it's almost it's it's not even their
[01:05:13] desire for gratification at the expense
[01:05:15] of young girls. It's almost like they
[01:05:18] their desire to belong to this club. I
[01:05:21] call it the Epstein class was so
[01:05:24] overriding that they were willing to
[01:05:26] look overlook everything else. They were
[01:05:29] willing to overlook girls being raped.
[01:05:31] They were willing to overlook the
[01:05:33] heinous things that Epstein was doing.
[01:05:35] They were willing to overlook the fact
[01:05:37] that he had all these suspicious
[01:05:38] contacts with foreign leaders
[01:05:40] potentially selling out our country
[01:05:42] because God forbid they weren't invited
[01:05:43] to those parties. God forbid they were
[01:05:46] not given membership into the Epstein
[01:05:48] class. And that's the two Americas we
[01:05:50] have. That's not what our founders
[01:05:52] wanted. That's not why you wore the
[01:05:53] uniform. That's not why kids died in
[01:05:55] Afghanistan or Iraq. That's not why
[01:05:58] people scaled the cliffs of Normandy.
[01:06:00] And people need to wake up in this
[01:06:01] country and say, "Look, we got to get
[01:06:03] our country back." And it starts with
[01:06:04] elite accountability.
[01:06:10] >> Have you been Have you heard from the
[01:06:11] survivors?
[01:06:12] >> Yeah. What are they saying?
[01:06:15] >> One of them I owe call back to. She
[01:06:17] texted me yesterday. She said, "There's
[01:06:19] a a man in the files who hasn't gotten
[01:06:22] enough attention. I want you to call
[01:06:24] that person out. I'm going to call her
[01:06:25] back today uh to say because he really
[01:06:28] was responsible for uh raping young
[01:06:32] girls and the media hasn't focused on
[01:06:34] him." So, some of them are alerting me
[01:06:36] to things they're seeing in the files.
[01:06:38] You know, there's so many.
[01:06:39] >> Can I ask you who that is? I don't I I
[01:06:42] can I can give you I'll give Jeremy the
[01:06:44] information after if I get her
[01:06:45] permission with the survivor the
[01:06:47] survivor's permission, but uh I'll I'll
[01:06:50] certainly I was planning to call her on
[01:06:52] the airport back to to California. But
[01:06:55] the uh the reality is that there's so
[01:06:59] many people in this that some people are
[01:07:01] just hiding, right? If if it was just
[01:07:04] let's say Gates, it'd be like front page
[01:07:06] news, but there hundreds of these people
[01:07:09] and so they're almost benefiting by the
[01:07:12] fact that there's so many. So we've
[01:07:14] we've got to some of them want to make
[01:07:15] sure that they're they're actually being
[01:07:17] held accountable. And then they're
[01:07:19] pissed that uh the files were were not
[01:07:22] released with uh their names redacted. I
[01:07:26] mean that so many of these uh pictures
[01:07:28] were released of young girls naked. Like
[01:07:31] I mean how do you do that? how how do
[01:07:33] you do that? So, their identities were
[01:07:35] compromised. I've heard from some of
[01:07:37] them just in tears about that and then
[01:07:40] they're uh upset that uh they're
[01:07:43] protecting pedophiles still and these
[01:07:44] abusers. So, they they are not happy and
[01:07:49] uh they feel like they feel there's some
[01:07:52] sense of accountability. They also want
[01:07:53] to know what's going to happen, right?
[01:07:55] Cuz they feel exposed. All these people
[01:07:57] are out there, the files are out there,
[01:07:59] but like are we going to do anything?
[01:08:00] and they're disappointed in America
[01:08:02] because they see all these other
[01:08:03] countries like prime minister of Israel
[01:08:06] is making a statement. Starmer is almost
[01:08:08] gonna fall. You've got Eastern European
[01:08:11] countries talking about bringing
[01:08:12] investigations
[01:08:13] uh about people in the files and our
[01:08:17] president saying let's move on, right? I
[01:08:20] mean Lutnik who's in the files doesn't
[01:08:22] even have to answer to the press.
[01:08:25] In other countries, they'd be gone
[01:08:27] sacked, right? And it's just kind of
[01:08:29] their sense is like, okay, do we not
[01:08:31] care? That's what they're asking. Like,
[01:08:33] do we not do is it just are we so immune
[01:08:36] that if people have money and power
[01:08:38] that's that's all we care about?
[01:08:42] The big rumor for years has been that if
[01:08:45] this gets released, the entire world's
[01:08:47] power structure will [ __ ] the bed.
[01:08:50] I think we're starting to see that.
[01:08:52] >> We're starting to see it in England.
[01:08:54] we're starting to see it in other parts
[01:08:56] of the the the world. And I didn't
[01:08:58] believe that actually, you know, in in
[01:08:59] the beginning. I thought, okay, maybe
[01:09:02] they're exaggerating. Maybe it's a
[01:09:04] conspiratorial. I I thought, okay, yeah,
[01:09:06] they're going to be people in New York.
[01:09:07] And he was blocking the New York police.
[01:09:10] I didn't realize the extent of it until
[01:09:12] these files got released. And that makes
[01:09:14] me realize, okay, this is what they've
[01:09:16] released. What are they holding? And why
[01:09:18] are they holding it? And the only way we
[01:09:21] can't Massie and I, Congress can't force
[01:09:23] the release of the classified stuff. We
[01:09:25] just don't have the authority. We
[01:09:27] Congress, it would be held
[01:09:29] unconstitutional for Congress to force
[01:09:31] the release of classified material. The
[01:09:33] president has the uh authority to
[01:09:35] declassify. So what we need is a
[01:09:38] president to appoint a commission of
[01:09:41] people who are trusted uh to be able to
[01:09:45] look at the intelligence and then to
[01:09:47] come up with some public report. Until
[01:09:49] we do that, the there's not going to be
[01:09:52] a restoration of trust. We need, in my
[01:09:54] view, a truth and reconciliation
[01:09:56] commission. Someone who's going to do a
[01:09:59] investigation of the people who are in
[01:10:01] these files and really have some public
[01:10:03] accountability and someone who's going
[01:10:05] to look at the intelligence, who has
[01:10:08] impeccable
[01:10:09] integrity. Maybe it's someone from the
[01:10:11] military, some, you know, not a
[01:10:12] politician, certainly not a politician,
[01:10:15] someone who has in incredible integrity
[01:10:17] to look at this and then do a report
[01:10:19] like we had the report after the Kennedy
[01:10:21] assassination or the King assassination.
[01:10:23] I mean, we still debate that, but
[01:10:24] there's got to be some understanding of
[01:10:28] who this guy was.
[01:10:31] I think we should do a panel with you,
[01:10:34] Massie, some of these survivors, and
[01:10:37] anybody else that's fighting for
[01:10:39] fighting for this to get released. I
[01:10:41] think that would be a very powerful
[01:10:46] piece of content.
[01:10:48] You want to put it together?
[01:10:49] >> Yeah, I would love to. I mean, I I I
[01:10:51] think having Massie, I think I think
[01:10:53] adding Marjorie Taylor Green, if she
[01:10:55] she's open to it. I I haven't talked to
[01:10:57] her, but Massie certainly survivors.
[01:10:59] >> Come to DC. We'll make it easy on you
[01:11:01] guys.
[01:11:01] >> Yeah, I I think Massie I can talk to and
[01:11:04] I and certainly the survivors I can talk
[01:11:06] to. I'm having the one of the I know you
[01:11:08] were invited to the State of the Union.
[01:11:09] I'm taking one of the survivors is my
[01:11:11] guest to the State of the Union to make
[01:11:12] a statement that, you know, we we need
[01:11:14] we owe it to them to to be fighting for
[01:11:17] them. And I I can help get the
[01:11:19] survivors. I'll talk to Thomas. I mean,
[01:11:21] he's got a primary challenge, but you
[01:11:23] know, he's getting attacked anyway. the
[01:11:25] bill the the billionaires coming after
[01:11:26] him. Some of them are coming after me.
[01:11:29] Uh you know, we've we've cast a lot. Uh
[01:11:33] I think doing this is going to help
[01:11:36] actually get justice. To me, this is a
[01:11:39] highest priority. I'm
[01:11:40] >> right there with you. What are we
[01:11:42] missing? We missing anything?
[01:11:45] >> Patreon questions. We can bring it.
[01:11:47] >> Oh, I do have uh couple of Patreon.
[01:11:50] >> Bring it in from the stream.
[01:11:52] >> Oh, okay. Yeah, I did. Uh I I forgot
[01:11:55] this. This is from uh Teddy Boura. How
[01:12:00] do you take on the responsibility of
[01:12:01] being one of the main figures in the
[01:12:03] fight against roadblocks laxidasical
[01:12:06] efforts to rid their app of child
[01:12:08] predators? This is actually from his
[01:12:10] 14-year-old son.
[01:12:13] Well, I first want to just compliment
[01:12:15] Schlepp for what he did. He had a lot of
[01:12:17] courage and uh what Roblox is doing is
[01:12:22] totally unacceptable. It's not just the
[01:12:25] child predators and the fact that
[01:12:27] they're engaged in abuse online. Uh it's
[01:12:31] also these games that they've created
[01:12:33] that are teaching kids that it's okay to
[01:12:35] celebrate school shootings or to uh roam
[01:12:39] Epstein's Island or to reenact 9/11. I
[01:12:44] mean, what are we doing allowing this to
[01:12:46] take place? We've got to have a new
[01:12:49] moral vision in this country. We've got
[01:12:50] to have some moral values. So, uh,
[01:12:53] Roblox is in Silicon Valley. Uh, I've
[01:12:56] met with their CEO. He assured me months
[01:12:59] ago that he was going to change things,
[01:13:02] but I'm going to approach him and and
[01:13:04] hold him accountable, especially after
[01:13:06] your episode comes out and some of the
[01:13:08] games that he has. My first question to
[01:13:10] him is going to be, what do you what are
[01:13:12] you doing with Sandy Hook shooting on
[01:13:14] your platform? It's
[01:13:17] did I I don't even know if I told you
[01:13:19] about the chat place. We we got in these
[01:13:21] games
[01:13:23] and I did this with this guy Ryan
[01:13:25] Montgomery, right? I didn't believe how
[01:13:28] how widespread pedophilia and predators
[01:13:31] are in this country. And so that was my
[01:13:34] first time ever breaking into this
[01:13:35] subject. Brought him in here. He was a
[01:13:38] hacker. I said, "Hey, any social media
[01:13:41] plat, I don't care what you get in. Just
[01:13:43] anything the kids are in, just get in. I
[01:13:46] want to see how long this [ __ ] takes."
[01:13:49] >> 5 seconds. Are you serious?
[01:13:51] >> It took 5 seconds.
[01:13:52] >> Were someone targeted?
[01:13:54] >> Yeah, I'll put the clip up. Ryan, do you
[01:13:56] think you could demonstrate right here,
[01:13:57] right now, how fast these sexual
[01:14:00] predators predators will show up in a
[01:14:02] chat room?
[01:14:03] >> Yeah.
[01:14:03] >> Fire your computer up. Let's do it. All
[01:14:05] right.
[01:14:06] >> I'm recording. So now I'm just going to
[01:14:07] say hi.
[01:14:10] Who wants to chat?
[01:14:15] And I named myself Ashley Female New
[01:14:17] Jersey. 13. Female New Jersey. Let's see
[01:14:20] how many private messages come in.
[01:14:24] Two already. Three.
[01:14:28] >> It's been like 10 seconds.
[01:14:29] >> Yep. Hey, want to fool around? Hey, how
[01:14:35] old are you? Let me just copy that and
[01:14:38] send that to everybody cuz we got other
[01:14:40] messages coming in.
[01:14:42] >> What chat room are you in?
[01:14:44] >> Just a teen chat. Hey, want to cuddle a
[01:14:46] bit? I didn't I I mean I I'm taking I'm
[01:14:49] giving them the benefit of the doubt
[01:14:50] right now that uh that they didn't read
[01:14:53] the Oh, he's 47.
[01:14:55] >> 47 years old in a teen chat room.
[01:14:58] >> You got him in what? 5 seconds, he's
[01:15:01] already messaging in.
[01:15:02] >> Oh yeah, there's a ton. There's I can't
[01:15:04] even keep up with them here because
[01:15:06] every time I click one, there's more on
[01:15:07] the list.
[01:15:08] >> Then we bring Schle on and I had him do
[01:15:10] the same thing with Roblox. Said, "Pull
[01:15:12] it up." He's like, "Well, I'm banned. I
[01:15:13] can't do it. You got to do it." So, I
[01:15:15] created an account and I didn't and I
[01:15:17] should have made the account. What Ryan
[01:15:19] did was he made the account
[01:15:21] >> Ashley13 New Jersey. I put like Joe
[01:15:25] Blobe 4747 or something, something like
[01:15:28] that. I should have put, you know, Suzie
[01:15:32] 12 Virginia,
[01:15:33] >> but
[01:15:35] it didn't matter. We get in there and
[01:15:37] and and I'm like, I just want to see how
[01:15:39] long this takes. Boom. 20 seconds this
[01:15:42] time. 20 seconds.
[01:15:44] >> Sick.
[01:15:44] >> Want to get freaky? How old are you?
[01:15:48] This is what's then the next one. Hey,
[01:15:50] I'm bored. What are you doing? How old
[01:15:53] are you?
[01:15:54] >> On chat.
[01:15:55] >> On chat. Then the next one. Hey, I'm 19.
[01:16:00] How old are you? Want to get freaky?
[01:16:03] The There was no normal conversations in
[01:16:06] there was five times in probably 4
[01:16:09] minutes maybe. First one happened within
[01:16:11] 20 seconds and it was back to back to
[01:16:13] back to back.
[01:16:14] >> Why do you think there's a sickness in
[01:16:16] America on pedophilia? Like what what is
[01:16:19] going on in the country?
[01:16:21] >> I think it has to do you know what I
[01:16:23] think this has caused this [ __ ] I I
[01:16:26] don't know about the elites. I think the
[01:16:28] elites
[01:16:30] get everything they want and then they
[01:16:32] get bored with it and then they need to
[01:16:33] go after something forbidden. Yeah.
[01:16:35] >> Because it makes them feel powerful.
[01:16:37] >> That's what I think. I think with normal
[01:16:40] population, I think it's the porn
[01:16:41] industry. Do you know what the number
[01:16:43] one search thing on porn is?
[01:16:45] >> No.
[01:16:46] >> It's incest. It's brother, mother.
[01:16:49] >> Really?
[01:16:50] >> Brother, sister, daddy, daughter. That's
[01:16:53] what the most That's what the most
[01:16:54] searched [ __ ] is in porn. And so when
[01:16:56] you introduce a kid to pornography and
[01:16:59] what kids are kids are find, we have
[01:17:02] family friends whose kids have found it
[01:17:04] at [ __ ] 8 years old. The most
[01:17:05] horrific [ __ ] We're not talking like,
[01:17:08] you know, uh, Top Gun sex scene back in
[01:17:11] the 80s that I wasn't allowed to watch,
[01:17:13] you know? We're talking
[01:17:14] >> fullon [ __ ] gang bangs, like
[01:17:17] disgusting ins. And so you get
[01:17:19] introduced to porn,
[01:17:21] >> watch that, then that's not enough. Then
[01:17:24] you move into the incest [ __ ] Then
[01:17:27] you're into,
[01:17:29] I don't know, beastialis [ __ ] with
[01:17:31] animals. Then the next thing you know,
[01:17:33] none of that stuff does does. It has
[01:17:35] rotted your [ __ ] mind completely. And
[01:17:38] then you go to the pedophilia. That's
[01:17:41] what I think it is.
[01:17:42] >> You think it's increased from when we
[01:17:44] were growing up?
[01:17:44] >> I think it has definitely increased
[01:17:46] since we were growing up. Although I
[01:17:47] don't know. I mean, a lot of the people
[01:17:48] I bring on this show, I'll bet 50% of
[01:17:51] them admittedly talk about their sexual
[01:17:55] abuse as a kid.
[01:17:56] >> Yeah. I've been shocked how many people
[01:17:57] have told me about their sexual abuse
[01:17:59] since they've seen me leading on
[01:18:00] Epstein.
[01:18:01] >> It's crazy.
[01:18:01] >> Yeah. Saying four or to eight. And you
[01:18:03] know, a lot one of the things I get told
[01:18:05] a lot is, "Yeah, I was abused. I was
[01:18:07] abused by an uncle. I was abused by a
[01:18:09] babysitter. I was abused by a
[01:18:10] babysitter's husband. And I never told
[01:18:13] my parents." And I said, "Why didn't you
[01:18:15] tell your parents?" He said, "Cuz my dad
[01:18:16] would have killed the guy and uh I
[01:18:18] didn't want to put my father in that
[01:18:20] position where he would go to jail." And
[01:18:23] some of these people don't never told
[01:18:25] their parents till they were 30, 40.
[01:18:27] Some of them never told their parents.
[01:18:29] But the amount of people who've had this
[01:18:31] in their families has been just shocking
[01:18:34] to me. It's almost it's it appears to be
[01:18:38] more have been victimized than not. And
[01:18:41] then let me go a little bit further with
[01:18:42] this porn [ __ ]
[01:18:44] So on top of the porn, so you have all
[01:18:46] these teenage boys that are get and
[01:18:48] girls that are getting addicted to porn
[01:18:50] and the in the most disgusting [ __ ] you
[01:18:52] can imagine because it's all out there.
[01:18:55] But then you also have the predators.
[01:18:57] And so the predators get in touch with
[01:18:59] the females, you know, the the the the
[01:19:02] 10, 11 to on October, whatever, 17, 18,
[01:19:06] and
[01:19:08] they lure them in with, I'm going to get
[01:19:10] you this Louis Vuitton bag if you send
[01:19:12] me a picture of yourself. They they they
[01:19:15] do it. Then they're then they're
[01:19:16] immediately extorted. But the other
[01:19:18] girls find out that this shit's
[01:19:20] happening and they want a [ __ ] Louis
[01:19:21] Vuitton bag and they want a new iPhone
[01:19:23] and they want this and that and the
[01:19:25] other thing. And what may start off as
[01:19:27] uh you know just send me something of
[01:19:29] you in a bikini and then it turns into a
[01:19:31] boob and then it turns into the whole
[01:19:33] thing and then they're inserting things
[01:19:34] in themselves and and and and cutting
[01:19:37] and it's you I'm sure you know about
[01:19:39] this. Anyways, these girls they get a
[01:19:42] they they want that they want the you
[01:19:44] know so they go for this older
[01:19:47] >> they want the free [ __ ]
[01:19:48] >> Yeah. They want
[01:19:51] >> now those girls are no longer interested
[01:19:54] in teenage boys.
[01:19:57] So there's no connection there. There's
[01:19:59] no dating. And so now what the [ __ ] do
[01:20:01] the teenage boys do? They turn they they
[01:20:03] they go back to porn and then they get
[01:20:06] addicted to this stuff and it gets
[01:20:08] worse. It's a cycle and it gets worse
[01:20:10] and it gets worse and it gets worse.
[01:20:14] That's
[01:20:14] >> it's only fans. It's porn hub. Now
[01:20:16] >> how do we turn it around?
[01:20:20] You guys got to you got to do something
[01:20:22] about the pornography in the country
[01:20:23] >> to regulate it.
[01:20:24] >> It's everywhere. I mean, I got on
[01:20:29] I got on Brave. Do you know what Brave
[01:20:31] is? I don't
[01:20:32] >> supposedly like the new It's It's like a
[01:20:34] secure Google kind of like duck. Go. It
[01:20:37] was either Duck Duck Go or Brave. I
[01:20:38] can't. That's what I use. I don't use
[01:20:40] Google anymore. And I looked up one of
[01:20:43] the guests that was coming on the show.
[01:20:46] Well, that guest apparently also there's
[01:20:49] also an Only Fans girl or a porn star
[01:20:51] that has the same name. I just did a a a
[01:20:56] search just a regular search like
[01:21:00] Shawn Ryan, you know what I mean? And
[01:21:02] then it wasn't Shawn Ryan, but it was a
[01:21:05] different Shawn Ryan. It's just it's and
[01:21:07] it's everything. All of it. All of on a
[01:21:10] simple search.
[01:21:11] >> Wow.
[01:21:12] >> That everybody I mean every
[01:21:14] >> That's crazy. This this but this is I
[01:21:18] think that this is a big part of what's
[01:21:20] happening is it starts with that cuz I
[01:21:23] mean these kids are finding this [ __ ] 6
[01:21:25] 7 8 years old and they're addicted to it
[01:21:28] and and and then to feed the feed the
[01:21:32] addiction you have to get it gets
[01:21:34] weirder and weirder and weirder until it
[01:21:35] becomes illegal and
[01:21:37] >> and then when they turn 19 they're
[01:21:39] replicating it. They're the ones on
[01:21:41] Roblox and other things trying to abuse.
[01:21:44] >> Well, a lot of these kids that are
[01:21:45] abused, I mean, it's it's a lot of these
[01:21:47] kids that are abused wind up turning
[01:21:49] into abusers themselves because it's all
[01:21:51] they [ __ ] know.
[01:21:52] >> Yeah.
[01:21:52] >> You know, and I'll tell you another
[01:21:54] thing.
[01:21:54] >> It's important that some of the abuse is
[01:21:56] online, right? I mean, and that's
[01:21:57] scarring as I mean, there's obviously
[01:21:59] the physical abuse, but if you're online
[01:22:01] for months or years in an abusive online
[01:22:05] interaction with an adult, I mean, that
[01:22:07] can be just as jarring to someone's
[01:22:09] psychology.
[01:22:10] >> Well, the desensit the the the
[01:22:12] desensitizing these kids is also a big
[01:22:14] part. part of me when we're talking
[01:22:15] about roadblocks. I mean,
[01:22:17] >> they're desensit
[01:22:28] seven years ago. I remember my wife was
[01:22:30] big into it and I'm watching
[01:22:32] >> there was a I don't I don't know his
[01:22:34] name. He's an Asian kid in the in the
[01:22:37] series.
[01:22:37] >> Yeah. And they have a guy with a
[01:22:39] baseball bat
[01:22:41] with nails or something on the end of it
[01:22:43] and it shows him beating the kid's head
[01:22:45] in. This is This is public TV.
[01:22:48] >> Yeah.
[01:22:48] >> And then it shows like the vantage point
[01:22:51] through his eyes.
[01:22:52] >> Yeah.
[01:22:52] >> And I'm like there's [ __ ] kids that
[01:22:55] watch this [ __ ]
[01:22:56] >> Yeah.
[01:22:58] >> You go to Roblox
[01:22:59] >> and and they're reenacting
[01:23:01] active shooter events
[01:23:03] >> that that I was so disgusted and shocked
[01:23:06] by that. I couldn't believe it. I can't
[01:23:08] believe someone comes up with the idea
[01:23:10] of doing a video game where you're
[01:23:11] reenacting uh killing six-year-olds at
[01:23:14] Sandy Hook and you're reenacting the
[01:23:16] shooter killing his own mom and then
[01:23:18] you're celebrating that and then they
[01:23:20] have the victim's names. I mean
[01:23:22] 8-year-olds are doing this probably
[01:23:24] younger than eight and so I mean could
[01:23:26] you imagine
[01:23:27] >> the process of deep sens I mean it's
[01:23:30] it's just it's introduced at such a
[01:23:32] young age that
[01:23:33] >> right and all it takes is a few a few of
[01:23:36] them to actually internalize it right
[01:23:38] and then you wonder why we have the kind
[01:23:40] of violence and the problems in our
[01:23:42] society
[01:23:42] >> it's not a few of them it's millions
[01:23:46] >> they said Roblox has 80 million users a
[01:23:50] A
[01:23:52] a day.
[01:23:53] >> I wonder how much that Sandy Hook game
[01:23:54] gets every day. I mean, that should be
[01:23:56] pulled today. Like it that I they need
[01:23:59] to look at all these games that are
[01:24:01] reenacting.
[01:24:02] >> I'll bet it gets pulled as soon as this
[01:24:04] episode comes out, but there's a lot
[01:24:05] more of those. And we got the screen
[01:24:07] recordings. You [ __ ] are going
[01:24:10] down. You [ __ ] are going down.
[01:24:13] But what people need to realize is these
[01:24:15] [ __ ] that doesn't mean the evil goes
[01:24:17] away. It's just going to go to the next
[01:24:18] [ __ ] platform.
[01:24:20] until we deal with the broader
[01:24:22] pornography, the broader desensitization
[01:24:25] on violence.
[01:24:26] >> You have to do something about the porn
[01:24:28] industry.
[01:24:30] >> There's got to be some values. I'm a I'm
[01:24:31] a free speech guy and I may let people
[01:24:34] live, but but it can't be at the point
[01:24:36] of degeneracy. It can't be at the point
[01:24:38] >> cannot be that accessible to kids. I
[01:24:40] mean, when you and I grew up, it was in
[01:24:42] the back of the the movie rental section
[01:24:44] with black [ __ ] paper over the cover.
[01:24:46] you or you used to get the magazine,
[01:24:49] right? And people would be nervous about
[01:24:52] uh even getting the magazine. Used to be
[01:24:54] in a section that was uh restricted. Now
[01:24:57] it's all over. It's everywhere.
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[01:27:26] >> We got some Patreon questions.
[01:27:28] >> That's exactly right. All right, cool.
[01:27:31] >> All right, Ro, just a couple uh Q&A
[01:27:34] here. This is from Megan W.
[01:27:37] From Megan W.
[01:27:39] With all the corruption and fraud being
[01:27:41] exposed, will the American taxpayer ever
[01:27:45] see any accountability? And what would
[01:27:47] that accountability even look like?
[01:27:50] >> Well, Megan, look, we've got to have uh
[01:27:52] accountability both in the federal
[01:27:54] government and in state governments.
[01:27:56] federal government. The biggest fraud in
[01:27:58] my view and waste is in the defense
[01:28:00] department. They failed seven audits.
[01:28:02] And uh I'm all for paying our troops.
[01:28:05] I'm all for having national security.
[01:28:07] But you've got these defense contractors
[01:28:10] making millions of dollars for their
[01:28:11] executives, ripping off the American
[01:28:14] people where you're buying things that a
[01:28:16] commercial product would cost onetenth
[01:28:19] the amount. And so we need to have an
[01:28:21] actual audit of the Department of
[01:28:23] Defense. It's 56% of our budget. By the
[01:28:26] way, Medicare Advantage is also ripping
[01:28:28] people off. Billing the American
[01:28:30] government by saying people are sicker
[01:28:32] than they actually are. Those are two
[01:28:33] places to look at fraud and waste. Uh on
[01:28:36] the state governments, I'm working
[01:28:37] actually on a bipartisan basis uh partly
[01:28:40] after our conversation to say we should
[01:28:42] have some kind of audit of all state
[01:28:43] governments uh so that there is
[01:28:45] accountability. You know, my state
[01:28:48] there's been uh places of of waste. Like
[01:28:51] you had a train that was supposed to be
[01:28:53] built in 2008 and every year, you know,
[01:28:57] they say, "Oh, the train's going to be
[01:28:58] built. The train's going to be built."
[01:28:59] It was supposed to connect LA and San
[01:29:01] Francisco. It still hasn't connected
[01:29:03] Bakersfield to Merrced and we've been
[01:29:05] there 20 almost 20 years, you know. So,
[01:29:08] that's a a a clear case. We've got a
[01:29:11] problem in my state of people who are
[01:29:12] homeless and unhoused. We've spent
[01:29:14] billions of dollars on that issue, but
[01:29:17] we still have a huge homeless pro
[01:29:19] population uh in uh in Los Angeles in
[01:29:22] San become a business.
[01:29:24] >> I mean that
[01:29:25] >> homeless stuff has become a business.
[01:29:27] >> It's a it is an issue in our state. We
[01:29:29] have not handled it well.
[01:29:30] >> The rich have turned the homeless issue
[01:29:33] into a business.
[01:29:34] >> Well, there there's waste that's gone in
[01:29:36] terms of where that money is going
[01:29:37] because it's certainly not getting
[01:29:38] people the treatment and the shelter
[01:29:41] that they need. We're not we're not
[01:29:43] addressing that in in our state. You
[01:29:45] know, our our cost of living is so high
[01:29:47] that we have one of the highest poverty
[01:29:49] indexes in California when you look at
[01:29:52] and adjust for cost of living and we
[01:29:54] have one of the high highest housing
[01:29:55] costs. So yeah, we've done well as a
[01:29:57] state when you look at the UC's and the
[01:30:00] colleges and when you look at Stanford
[01:30:02] and Berkeley and you look at the
[01:30:04] startups and the the production of
[01:30:06] wealth, but when you look at the working
[01:30:08] class and the middle class and the high
[01:30:11] cost of housing, the high cost of uh
[01:30:14] energy, the fact that uh wages haven't
[01:30:17] kept up and you have all this waste when
[01:30:20] it comes to the highspeed rail or
[01:30:21] homelessness, we've got issues. So there
[01:30:24] needs to be accountability and that's uh
[01:30:26] one of the big issues. There's like 10
[01:30:28] people running for governor in my state.
[01:30:29] That's one of the big issues is who's
[01:30:31] going to turn around the mess and 10
[01:30:33] people running for governor.
[01:30:34] >> 10 serious people cuz people are so
[01:30:36] upset. People are upset that you know
[01:30:39] they're upset with the homelessness.
[01:30:40] They're upset with the cost of living.
[01:30:42] They're upset that if you're working
[01:30:44] class in California, life is hard. Uh
[01:30:47] they're upset with uh crime
[01:30:49] >> crime public safety. They're upset that
[01:30:52] uh we have not uh we've had huge income
[01:30:54] inequality. And so there, you know,
[01:30:57] there are all these candidates running
[01:30:58] saying, "I'm going to turn turn this
[01:30:59] around and we'll see who wins."
[01:31:02] >> Anybody good? Anybody good?
[01:31:04] >> I' I've endorsed Tom Star, but there are
[01:31:05] a bunch of people who are running who
[01:31:07] who are are thoughtful and you know, I
[01:31:10] mean, there's Matt Mayan, Eric
[01:31:11] Swallwell, uh you know, Katie Porter. I
[01:31:14] mean, it'll be a it's a good race, but
[01:31:16] they're all running unchanged. They're
[01:31:17] all running saying California is not
[01:31:19] working. Energy costs are too high.
[01:31:21] Homelessness is too high. We have too
[01:31:23] much waste fraud abuse in Sacramento.
[01:31:25] PG&E is ripping us off in terms of our
[01:31:28] energy prices. The supplemental poverty
[01:31:31] rate is the one of the highest in the
[01:31:33] nations when it comes to people who are
[01:31:36] workingass and poor. When you factor in
[01:31:38] cost of living, our education system K
[01:31:41] through 12 has not been working in terms
[01:31:43] of we're 38th or 40th. So, there's a lot
[01:31:46] that needs to change. It's a It's a huge
[01:31:48] uh undertaking for whoever wins.
[01:31:50] >> Where are you on nuclear?
[01:31:51] >> I'm for I'm I'm for nuclear.
[01:31:53] >> You're for nuclear.
[01:31:54] >> I'm for nuclear.
[01:31:55] >> Where are you on it?
[01:31:56] >> I'm I'm very pro- nuclear.
[01:31:58] >> It's got to be part of the mix. By the
[01:31:59] way, the left disagree with me. I say if
[01:32:01] you look at the intergovernmental panel
[01:32:04] of climate change uh that the UN did,
[01:32:07] they say that nuclear has to be part of
[01:32:08] the mix in terms of tackling uh climate
[01:32:11] and uh you need renewables, but you need
[01:32:14] nuclear as well.
[01:32:17] from Lee Greathouse. In your opinion,
[01:32:20] what is the biggest change that we could
[01:32:22] make that would restore Congress to the
[01:32:24] original intent of the founding fathers?
[01:32:26] And would it even be possible?
[01:32:28] >> Get money out of politics and term
[01:32:30] limits. So, uh, get rid of all of the
[01:32:34] super PACs, all of the packs, all of the
[01:32:36] donors. You know, have public financing
[01:32:39] or say you can only get money from
[01:32:40] people in your district. Give everyone a
[01:32:43] hundred bucks of money. Maybe they could
[01:32:44] give to any candidate they wanted, but
[01:32:47] get the big money out and then have term
[01:32:49] limits. You could say 12 years as a
[01:32:51] member of Congress, six terms, two terms
[01:32:54] as a senator. You could debate what the
[01:32:56] right is to, you know, 18 years as a
[01:32:58] Supreme Court justice. Yeah. These
[01:33:01] things were never designed to be liflong
[01:33:05] pursuits. And if and people may agree or
[01:33:08] disagree with Massie or me, but we are
[01:33:10] willing to take risk to risk our own
[01:33:12] seats, right? Massie has a primary
[01:33:14] challenge. People upset at me trying to
[01:33:16] do a primary challenge. And the reason
[01:33:17] we're willing to do it is because we
[01:33:19] don't have a view that this is a
[01:33:20] lifetime gig. Like, okay, you do there,
[01:33:22] you make an impact, then you do
[01:33:24] something else with your life. And some
[01:33:26] of these people, they've been there 40
[01:33:27] years, 50 years. Chuck Schumer
[01:33:29] literally, I think, has been there
[01:33:30] before I was born, like in office, his
[01:33:33] first elective office. H how is that
[01:33:36] >> Feinstein died in office.
[01:33:38] >> She I called on her to to to resign. She
[01:33:40] wasn't going to meetings for a year.
[01:33:42] Like she wasn't she was
[01:33:43] >> Mitch McConnell stroking out on camera.
[01:33:46] I mean
[01:33:46] >> on [ __ ] camera multiple times
[01:33:49] >> and it's you know the [ __ ] is is anybody
[01:33:52] even in there? What the [ __ ] are we
[01:33:54] doing?
[01:33:55] >> And you know it's it it's it happens in
[01:33:57] sports right like the athletes always
[01:33:59] stay a season or two long but this isn't
[01:34:02] a sport like right. Okay, you do that,
[01:34:04] your your team maybe have a bad season.
[01:34:06] This is the United States of America.
[01:34:07] Well, like you can't take that kind of a
[01:34:10] risk where we've got people in there in
[01:34:13] their 60s and 70s and 80s. I'm not
[01:34:16] saying I'm not agist, just I'm saying
[01:34:18] have a a a a
[01:34:21] elected officials that represent the
[01:34:23] demographics of the country. But what
[01:34:24] happens if when you've been there 30
[01:34:26] years, you build name ID, you build the
[01:34:29] donor network. So even if you're not
[01:34:31] doing the job, you can just coast.
[01:34:33] >> It really does just come down to the
[01:34:35] donors, doesn't it? The do the voters
[01:34:36] don't even [ __ ] matter. It's just the
[01:34:38] donors.
[01:34:39] >> The donors have a huge influence. I
[01:34:42] mean, like someone dislikes me, you're a
[01:34:43] billionaire. You say, "Okay, I'm going
[01:34:45] to put in $10 million tomorrow against
[01:34:47] Kana." Okay? So someone is a no-name
[01:34:50] person can come in $10 million. You can
[01:34:52] be on TV. They'll get a equal name
[01:34:54] recognition right away. And you find
[01:34:56] some vote. I've been there nine years.
[01:34:58] I'm I'm sure there's some votes people
[01:34:59] will be upset at. You highlight that
[01:35:01] vote, say, "Cana is selling you out
[01:35:03] because he voted for this. Vote for the
[01:35:05] new guy." And so, one person literally
[01:35:07] with money can take someone out. So, if
[01:35:09] you just want to keep your job, the way
[01:35:12] to keep your job is keep your head low.
[01:35:14] Don't call out anyone in power. Don't
[01:35:16] ruffle too many feathers. Just keep
[01:35:18] climbing up and then you're part of the
[01:35:20] club and one day you'll chair the
[01:35:21] committee or get a big position or, you
[01:35:23] know, you'll you'll get your shot. And
[01:35:25] that's that's how our system works. And
[01:35:27] then once you're in there, as long as
[01:35:29] you're not ruffling any feathers, uh,
[01:35:31] your name ID keeps getting higher, your
[01:35:33] donor base keeps getting bigger, and
[01:35:36] then it's hard to beat you.
[01:35:38] >> You know,
[01:35:41] there's a way around this, and I think
[01:35:44] you're starting to figure out outs. It's
[01:35:46] podcasts.
[01:35:47] >> I think that's the that's the that's our
[01:35:49] shot. Independent media. I mean, you're
[01:35:53] I I I said this I go on Sunday shows all
[01:35:56] the time, and I I'm not saying this to
[01:35:58] insult them because I still want to be
[01:35:59] invited on, but I've had more people
[01:36:02] reach out to me the one time I came on
[01:36:05] than probably four or five of those
[01:36:07] Sunday appearances in a row cuz the same
[01:36:09] people are watching the Sunday shows.
[01:36:11] Whereas, you know, with I I had a guy a
[01:36:13] janitor in the capital say, "Congressman
[01:36:15] Khan," he started yelling at me. He
[01:36:17] said, "I saw I saw you on showing Ryan.
[01:36:19] I don't agree with half the stuff you
[01:36:21] do, but thank you for going on. He's a
[01:36:23] good guy. Right. I mean, your
[01:36:25] demographic is not just the people who
[01:36:27] read the New York Times. You got
[01:36:29] workingclass folks who who who listen
[01:36:31] in. You've got Republicans, Democrats,
[01:36:34] independents. So, I think you can bypass
[01:36:37] the uh elites who have run this country
[01:36:41] for too long. I'm not saying they don't
[01:36:44] have a role, but that wasn't democracy,
[01:36:47] right? like and and and and we've seen
[01:36:50] from this Epstein class and files that
[01:36:51] their values are out of sync. It doesn't
[01:36:53] matter how intelligent you are. Most of
[01:36:54] these people are brilliant.
[01:36:56] >> Most of these people, we want their
[01:36:57] intelligence. They've started great
[01:36:59] companies. They've done great things in
[01:37:01] finance. I'm all for intelligence. I'm
[01:37:03] all for people building wealth. But
[01:37:05] wealth and intelligence without values
[01:37:08] is meaningless. What built America is
[01:37:10] the values. And so I think what the
[01:37:13] democracy does, what podcasts do is it
[01:37:16] sort of reminds people that the people
[01:37:18] in charge first matters having the right
[01:37:20] values then we can have the intelligence
[01:37:23] and the ambition and everything else.
[01:37:27] >> Sean Murphy, how can we trust any of our
[01:37:30] elected leaders, especially with how
[01:37:32] wide the scope of involvement with
[01:37:34] Epstein appears to be?
[01:37:37] It's a big question and it's not just
[01:37:39] our uh elected class. It's the entire
[01:37:42] leadership class, business leaders,
[01:37:44] finance leaders, tech leaders,
[01:37:46] Hollywood. Like how do we get a new
[01:37:49] moral beginning? How do we have a a
[01:37:51] cleansing in this country? I think the
[01:37:53] first thing is we've got to have
[01:37:54] accountability. If we don't have
[01:37:56] accountability, people are just going to
[01:37:57] say nothing changes. There's got to be
[01:38:00] accountability. There was no
[01:38:01] accountability after the Great
[01:38:02] Recession. You're talking to young
[01:38:04] folks, they've seen the great recession,
[01:38:06] they've seen COVID, they've seen these
[01:38:08] wars. They think this elite class has
[01:38:10] totally let them down and no one gets
[01:38:12] held accountable. That's why I think
[01:38:14] there have to be prosecutions. There
[01:38:16] have to be investigations. There have to
[01:38:18] be investigations in Congress. And then
[01:38:20] people say, "Okay, there's something
[01:38:22] different. They're at least holding
[01:38:23] people accountable." And then we need a
[01:38:25] new generation. We need a new generation
[01:38:27] of people in Congress, in the Senate, in
[01:38:29] these positions. And we need a new moral
[01:38:31] beginning. I I believe that the
[01:38:33] fundamental test of office should be
[01:38:35] character, should be values. Are you
[01:38:37] willing to stand for what you believe?
[01:38:39] Are you willing to do this and then go
[01:38:41] do something else? I think that's what
[01:38:43] everybody wants. That's what it So, I
[01:38:46] won't talk to very many people anymore
[01:38:48] from uh Congress or the Senate or in the
[01:38:50] administration cuz they just [ __ ]
[01:38:53] come in here and lie right to my face
[01:38:55] every single time. It's crazy. That's
[01:38:57] why I appreciate what you're doing.
[01:39:00] Um, Raphael Vieiraa,
[01:39:05] what reforms are needed so wealthy or
[01:39:07] well-connected individuals can't receive
[01:39:10] preferential treatment in federal
[01:39:12] prosecutions?
[01:39:15] >> Wow. Um,
[01:39:16] >> that's a tough one
[01:39:17] >> that Well, first of all, it gets back to
[01:39:19] the money in politics. So, why is it
[01:39:21] that they're shielded? Because they know
[01:39:23] politicians. Why is it that they know
[01:39:25] politicians? because the politicians
[01:39:27] need them for campaign finance, right?
[01:39:30] So, a lot of it gets back to this
[01:39:32] fundamental original sin in America,
[01:39:34] which is our money and politics. It's I
[01:39:37] think why our elite are not being held
[01:39:38] accountable in the way that elite in
[01:39:40] Britain are because in Britain you don't
[01:39:42] need that kind of money to run for
[01:39:44] political office. So, the the root of it
[01:39:46] is uh is the money. But the the the the
[01:39:50] second thing is that we ought to be make
[01:39:51] it a uh a total crime and prosecute
[01:39:54] those crimes for interference in the
[01:39:57] justice system. I mean, the fact that
[01:39:59] Maria Farmer sent a note to the FBI in
[01:40:03] 1996
[01:40:04] that Epstein was raping young girls and
[01:40:07] it the FBI sat on this and didn't do
[01:40:10] anything. And then for 30 years, Maria
[01:40:12] Farmer was called a liar is appalling.
[01:40:16] And where is the accountability? Why
[01:40:18] aren't we investigating those people at
[01:40:19] the FBI who just sat on this, who didn't
[01:40:22] do anything? That's why when people say,
[01:40:23] "Oh, this is a Trump thing." I say, "No,
[01:40:25] it's not. It's an America thing. This
[01:40:27] happened over successive presidents.
[01:40:29] This was these survivors were ignored
[01:40:32] and abandoned in many different
[01:40:34] administrations." And yeah, you can lay
[01:40:36] it all on Clinton or Trump, but that's
[01:40:38] not what we're talking about. We're
[01:40:39] talking about a system that protected
[01:40:41] these rich and powerful people.
[01:40:45] Last one from big country. With the
[01:40:48] short attention span of the American
[01:40:50] people, do you see this gradually fading
[01:40:52] into the background of our two-tiered
[01:40:55] justice system?
[01:40:56] >> I don't because I think it's gotten into
[01:40:58] the popular culture. I mean, when you
[01:41:01] have a factory worker going in Michigan
[01:41:03] and yelling at the president, you're
[01:41:05] protecting pedophiles. That's when I
[01:41:06] knew this was breaking through. People
[01:41:08] are talking about this in in in bars.
[01:41:11] They're talking about it. I think I'm
[01:41:13] sure they will at the Super Bowl parties
[01:41:14] on Sunday. I people get this story. They
[01:41:18] don't understand all the complexity of
[01:41:20] Mendelson in Britain sending Epstein uh
[01:41:24] information about Britain trying to buy
[01:41:27] up the euro and uh Epstein trading on
[01:41:29] it. They may not understand the
[01:41:30] complexities of uh Epstein showing up at
[01:41:33] the CIA and talking about Moldi and
[01:41:36] talking about to world leaders, but they
[01:41:38] understand the simple point that you
[01:41:39] don't rape American girls and you don't
[01:41:42] pray on American girls uh who are from
[01:41:44] working-class families. and that they
[01:41:46] are disgusted by the fact that rich and
[01:41:48] powerful people who by the way are often
[01:41:51] surrounded by women are taking such
[01:41:55] liberties and such arrogance that
[01:41:57] they're associating with a pedophile and
[01:42:00] uh being totally fine going to an island
[01:42:02] where pedophilia is taking place that
[01:42:05] resonates that broke through and I think
[01:42:08] that is the turning point that maybe
[01:42:10] this can be the turning point for a new
[01:42:12] moral beginning in our country like
[01:42:13] maybe this can be the the the this the
[01:42:16] uh final straw.
[01:42:18] >> I think it's happening. I don't know if
[01:42:20] it's going to go, but I think it's
[01:42:21] happening because I Yeah. Yeah. I am for
[01:42:23] the regardless of what the comment
[01:42:26] section says, the views, the the like,
[01:42:30] all this stuff, the the phone calls, the
[01:42:32] emails, the texts that we're I mean,
[01:42:36] this is this is uniting people and it's
[01:42:38] really [ __ ] cool to see people start
[01:42:42] to look beyond the [ __ ] party lines.
[01:42:44] I really I think that's the most
[01:42:46] important thing, accountability. And we
[01:42:49] have to [ __ ] find a way to start
[01:42:50] talking to each other like what we're
[01:42:52] doing right now.
[01:42:53] >> I appreciate you.
[01:42:54] >> But Ro, good to see you, man. It's
[01:42:57] >> We'll do We'll do it in DC with Massie
[01:42:59] and the Survivors next.
[01:43:00] >> Let's do it. Let's do it. Thank you.
[01:43:03] >> Cheers.
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