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[00:00:04] Ryan Zinc. Not Ryan Zinci.
[00:00:06] >> No, no, not a rhino.
[00:00:09] >> Very different. Ryan Zinc, thank you
[00:00:11] very much. So, you're uh running for
[00:00:13] Congress.
[00:00:14] >> I am.
[00:00:14] >> From Texas.
[00:00:15] >> Yes.
[00:00:15] >> Um, lots of people running from for
[00:00:17] Congress from Texas. The reason I
[00:00:19] thought you it would we would all
[00:00:20] benefit from hearing your story is that
[00:00:22] you were a January 6th defendant and you
[00:00:24] went through many years of trials both
[00:00:28] literally and figuratively uh in the
[00:00:31] aftermath of that and you've emerged as
[00:00:33] a as a real candidate. And so I'd just
[00:00:36] like to begin by hearing your J6 story.
[00:00:39] What why did you go to Washington on
[00:00:41] January 6th and what happened? So, I I
[00:00:44] guess to like summarize, make make
[00:00:46] things a little bit shorter is is uh I
[00:00:48] was out on a break from school. I was
[00:00:50] studying media strategy, public
[00:00:51] relations, but id got hit by a drunk
[00:00:53] driver. And so, my dad worked in sports
[00:00:55] medicine for years and I had a lapse in
[00:00:57] my insurance coverage. So, I went to
[00:00:59] Arizona to work on his congressional
[00:01:01] campaign. So, he was at the time running
[00:01:03] against Ruben Ggo.
[00:01:04] >> Your dad?
[00:01:05] >> Yes.
[00:01:05] >> Oh, wow. And where were you? You So, you
[00:01:07] were in college when this
[00:01:09] >> uh Yes. Yeah. So I I came in late in
[00:01:11] college like I I stopped and built wind
[00:01:13] turbines for you know a while just I I
[00:01:16] kind of bounced I didn't really find
[00:01:17] anything that I really loved until I
[00:01:18] found safety and then of course now
[00:01:20] politics apparently
[00:01:21] >> but um so I was helping him with his you
[00:01:25] know congressional campaign um cuz I was
[00:01:27] in media like I had a camera you know
[00:01:29] and I was he like we started off slow
[00:01:32] like everybody else does you know with
[00:01:34] his campaign where money was super tight
[00:01:35] and so I went up there to one get free
[00:01:39] treatment for my neck and shoulder and
[00:01:41] then
[00:01:41] >> from your dad.
[00:01:42] >> Yeah. And and then uh two, you know,
[00:01:45] just to help him on his campaign. And
[00:01:46] >> so you're working for your dad in
[00:01:47] exchange for free neck and back
[00:01:49] treatment
[00:01:49] >> pretty much. Yeah. Nothing free out of
[00:01:51] the old man. But
[00:01:53] >> Okay.
[00:01:54] >> But uh No, I mean it, you know, it was
[00:01:57] really my first glance in politics. Like
[00:01:59] the the first time that I had ever voted
[00:02:01] was the Donald Trump's first term. Yeah.
[00:02:04] begin. The only reason that I thought
[00:02:05] that was because I was like, you know,
[00:02:07] um well, I've seen what like I I met
[00:02:09] Bill Clinton and in college at WT when I
[00:02:13] used to go there and I was really
[00:02:14] weirded out by him uh when I met him.
[00:02:17] >> What about
[00:02:18] >> um creepy soft hands, uh his demeanor
[00:02:22] towards uh the girls that were in the
[00:02:24] room in the like in the back area and
[00:02:27] then um the way just just the way he
[00:02:30] carries himself. Uh I think I was I I
[00:02:33] think it was discernment is what I
[00:02:35] think.
[00:02:35] >> Interesting. So bad vibes would be one
[00:02:37] way to put it.
[00:02:38] >> Yeah. And this is and this is like
[00:02:40] before I was like really a Christian too
[00:02:42] like you know living practicing my you
[00:02:44] know my life in accordance
[00:02:46] >> well those are animal instincts and we
[00:02:47] should never ignore them cuz they're
[00:02:48] >> active. Well def definitely you know
[00:02:51] like looking back now and you know
[00:02:52] everything I've been through. Yeah. It
[00:02:53] was definitely it was a stark warning
[00:02:56] >> really
[00:02:56] >> to to like be vigilant, be aware of
[00:02:59] what's happening around you.
[00:03:01] >> Interesting.
[00:03:01] >> Huh.
[00:03:02] >> So, um but yeah, so campaign trail, you
[00:03:06] know, going out. Well, dad, um we start
[00:03:10] looking at, you know, the votes about
[00:03:12] everything that's going on. And he tells
[00:03:15] me, he's like, you know, hey, I think
[00:03:16] this is it. He's like, I think we're
[00:03:17] going to witness history if we go to the
[00:03:19] capital. I don't even want to go. I want
[00:03:20] to go home. uh you know cuz I've got my
[00:03:23] my lovely beautiful wife now uh was you
[00:03:26] know waiting for me back in back in
[00:03:27] Texas and I you know left before
[00:03:29] Thanksgiving and um I didn't even want
[00:03:32] to go to the capital and I was like well
[00:03:34] okay I was like I guess like we can do
[00:03:36] this so I started thinking I was like
[00:03:37] you know
[00:03:38] >> your dad's encouraging you to go.
[00:03:39] >> Yes. Yeah. He he wanted me to go cuz he
[00:03:41] want you know he wants B-roll footage.
[00:03:43] He wants, you know, uh, you know, him at
[00:03:46] the capital, you know, in in front of
[00:03:48] all the fountains and, you know, we we
[00:03:50] wanted to present, you know, like a
[00:03:51] strong unified presence in in media just
[00:03:54] like, you know, every candidate wanted
[00:03:55] to.
[00:03:55] >> Yeah.
[00:03:56] >> And um,
[00:03:57] >> so your your dad believed that footage
[00:03:59] of him at the capital on January 6 would
[00:04:01] be good for his campaign.
[00:04:02] >> Yes. And and not not just not just that,
[00:04:05] but like
[00:04:05] >> So obviously he wasn't planning a
[00:04:06] violent insurrection or he wouldn't have
[00:04:08] brought you as his cameraman.
[00:04:09] >> No. No. I' if we were planning
[00:04:11] insurrection, I would have brought a lot
[00:04:12] more that day than, you know, just my
[00:04:14] camera,
[00:04:15] >> right? I know that's
[00:04:17] >> Yeah. Both. So, he wasn't even actually
[00:04:19] in the best of good health at that time.
[00:04:21] Like, uh there was a there was a time
[00:04:23] like 6 years before that that I thought
[00:04:24] I was going to lose my dad. Like, we
[00:04:25] were actually like planning funerals and
[00:04:27] >> I'm sorry
[00:04:28] >> kind of looking at stuff. So, that it
[00:04:30] was it was a hard time. But then, you
[00:04:31] know, God healed him in that December
[00:04:33] and he you know, we've been rocking and
[00:04:35] rolling ever since. But um you know we
[00:04:38] were both like actively hurt like it
[00:04:40] would have been very hardressed for us
[00:04:41] to do an insurrection that day. Um you
[00:04:44] know my neck and shoulder injuries like
[00:04:45] my like my shoulder was like froze up
[00:04:47] here like this for like 6 months and you
[00:04:50] know wow like I was I did physical
[00:04:52] therapy for like 2 years. Um but you
[00:04:56] know it it just it's it's insane looking
[00:04:59] back because we thought that you know we
[00:05:00] were going to see history for the first
[00:05:02] time that you know the vote would get
[00:05:04] kicked back to the states and that you
[00:05:06] know the states with a vote party line
[00:05:08] you know uh for what that that was what
[00:05:11] we thought was going to happen and it it
[00:05:13] turned out to be completely different.
[00:05:15] You know, I I remember getting in on
[00:05:19] January 5th, staying with some family in
[00:05:21] like the I I think it was like the upper
[00:05:22] Marboro, Maryland
[00:05:24] >> area, and making our way across, you
[00:05:27] know, is the first time in my mind that
[00:05:30] I can remember. I think I went to DC
[00:05:32] once when I was younger, but this was
[00:05:34] very real. It was very, you know, very
[00:05:38] like you would see in the movies, like
[00:05:40] there's, you know, steam pouring out of
[00:05:41] the sewers the second that we get off.
[00:05:43] Yeah. you know, um the metro, um there's
[00:05:47] and there's already like thousands of
[00:05:48] people. It's 4:00 in the morning, you
[00:05:50] know, and there's there's already
[00:05:51] thousands of people like over near the
[00:05:54] capital. And so I'm I'm already, you
[00:05:56] know, taking pictures and this this will
[00:05:58] be relevant uh later as well. But it's
[00:06:02] it's crazy to step off the metro and
[00:06:05] that early in the morning there's
[00:06:07] thousands of people already at the
[00:06:08] capital all along uh headed up towards
[00:06:12] the Washington Monument where President
[00:06:14] Trump was going to be speaking. And then
[00:06:16] that was pretty much like, you know,
[00:06:17] where we started the day. Went in there,
[00:06:19] I saw Diamond and Silk uh for the first
[00:06:22] time, walking through. And remember, I'm
[00:06:24] not I'm still not very political at this
[00:06:26] point. Like, I believe that there's a
[00:06:28] lot that's going on with elections that
[00:06:30] we're being lied to about, but I don't
[00:06:32] see it in the capacity that I see it
[00:06:34] today. Um, I'm basically there for, you
[00:06:37] know, a free trip with my dad to
[00:06:39] Washington DC, you know, to hang out for
[00:06:41] a little bit, get some some B-roll
[00:06:42] footage, and go home. And then um you
[00:06:46] know so I don't get to go in to where
[00:06:48] the president is speaking cuz Secret
[00:06:50] Service I have a laptop, I have a
[00:06:53] camera, I have SD cards, I have multiple
[00:06:56] lenses, I have a tripod, I have all this
[00:06:59] stuff and Secret Service is like you
[00:07:01] can't, you know, like we're not allowing
[00:07:02] anyone else with bags into this area
[00:07:05] that we're going in. And so um I never
[00:07:09] got to hear Trump speak
[00:07:12] at all. like I was already had made my
[00:07:15] way up to the cap. Um, we stopped and
[00:07:18] had lunch at a building that I would get
[00:07:20] to know very well, 333 Constitution
[00:07:22] Avenue, the courthouse where uh I was
[00:07:26] later convicted at. And um, you know, we
[00:07:31] ate lunch over there and then made our
[00:07:33] way all the way down uh to the capital.
[00:07:35] My dad talked uh did an interview with
[00:07:37] the Epic Times. Um, we spent uh a good
[00:07:41] portion like we had to go sit down after
[00:07:44] this and then um made our way over to
[00:07:46] the east side of the building where I
[00:07:48] remained uh for only a few moments up
[00:07:51] until everything happened and then um
[00:07:55] sat down talked to Samoans for Trump you
[00:07:57] know anti-communist party for Trump you
[00:07:59] know just just real you know gross
[00:08:02] people you know who've you know escaped
[00:08:05] um you know horrors that we see with
[00:08:07] communism. you know, talking about like
[00:08:10] things that Trump is doing versus like
[00:08:12] where they came from. And then we get to
[00:08:15] where things start rolling for the day.
[00:08:18] You know, it's uh it's before the
[00:08:19] objection of um Ted Cruz and uh let's
[00:08:24] see, the representative from Arizona.
[00:08:27] And then um
[00:08:30] we can hear the whole time like on the
[00:08:31] on the east side of the building, we
[00:08:32] hear somebody talking through a
[00:08:34] megaphone. Okay. And they keep telling
[00:08:35] and they're talking to a Capital Police
[00:08:37] officer. Well, I would later identify
[00:08:38] this man as Duny. And
[00:08:42] they are saying into the microphone that
[00:08:45] they're talking to like hundreds of
[00:08:47] people on the east side, you know, like
[00:08:49] we we know that you guys have a right to
[00:08:50] protest and we know that you have the
[00:08:52] permit. We're talking to our superiors
[00:08:54] and we're going to let you in to, you
[00:08:56] know, and to go up. And we're looking
[00:08:58] around. We're like, what do they mean go
[00:08:59] up? Like, are we going in the building?
[00:09:00] Like, what what are they talking about
[00:09:02] here?
[00:09:03] So, um, after this,
[00:09:07] nothing really happens. They keep
[00:09:09] talking on the bullhorn. We can hear
[00:09:10] they're trying to like put a phone up to
[00:09:12] it to where you can hear like President
[00:09:14] Trump speak. And then all the
[00:09:16] proceedings inside of the building start
[00:09:18] going as well. And we at like the DOJ
[00:09:24] has like a huge camera that's, you know,
[00:09:26] on top of the capital building that
[00:09:27] looks down over the east side. And I was
[00:09:30] standing um just kind of over the
[00:09:33] visitors center to the right hand side
[00:09:35] in in front of this like green light
[00:09:37] pole and right uh to our left there's
[00:09:41] there's probably I don't know like 300
[00:09:43] people in front of us and we can't
[00:09:44] really see what's going on and I'm
[00:09:45] trying to like lean out the railing to
[00:09:47] see what's happening and you know 400
[00:09:50] feet in the air you can tell that
[00:09:51] there's pushing and shoving that's going
[00:09:53] on down over there. We don't know why
[00:09:54] they're bringing bike racks over to this
[00:09:56] side. you know, that that impenetrable
[00:09:58] wall fortress that uh they built around
[00:10:01] the capital was bike racks that, you
[00:10:03] know, were connected together. And uh so
[00:10:06] there's some pushing and shoving that's
[00:10:07] going on over here. We can't really tell
[00:10:08] what's going on or like who the
[00:10:10] instigator is, but at this time, like
[00:10:14] right as soon as all of this happens, we
[00:10:16] start seeing like hundreds of people
[00:10:18] come this way. And this is as soon as
[00:10:19] Ted Cruz and them object. I mean, it is
[00:10:21] literally like Texas objects.
[00:10:25] Bang.
[00:10:27] J6 goes off and there's hundreds of
[00:10:30] people coming from the right side.
[00:10:32] >> Kind of funny that Ted Cruz is at the
[00:10:33] center of this.
[00:10:35] >> I find it more funny that there are a
[00:10:38] lot more people who weren't at that time
[00:10:40] just based on what on what we knew. But
[00:10:42] I but I do think that um
[00:10:46] it was timed for the objection. I think
[00:10:48] that the fact that a senator had finally
[00:10:50] gotten involved with it is the like
[00:10:54] principal point of where they had to do
[00:10:58] something that day in order to stop um
[00:11:02] more information coming out cuz I mean
[00:11:04] it the the time period between the
[00:11:06] objection and when
[00:11:09] the eruption happens is 5 seconds.
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[00:12:12] >> So what the eruption look like from your
[00:12:14] perspective?
[00:12:14] >> So from from my perspective, so I'm
[00:12:18] right on the railing. I see a couple
[00:12:20] hundred people coming this way. They're
[00:12:22] already past police officers. They're
[00:12:25] inside of the area, which were not
[00:12:28] properly
[00:12:29] um that, you know, they always say like,
[00:12:32] "Oh, there were signs around the capital
[00:12:33] that day." There there wasn't. If you go
[00:12:35] back and you look at I I hate to say her
[00:12:37] name, but Pam Himfield's video where
[00:12:39] she's walking through um she's behind
[00:12:43] the police line in front of where we are
[00:12:45] at the time. And um there's no there's
[00:12:49] no signs up. Well, I have a picture of
[00:12:51] what the sign is actually supposed to
[00:12:52] look like in order to cordon off that
[00:12:55] area so that people the the general
[00:12:57] public who has no idea what this area is
[00:12:59] in front of them, you know, they'll
[00:13:00] they'll claim, you know, state of mind
[00:13:02] that we that we did because it was an
[00:13:04] area, but whenever you see police
[00:13:07] opening barricades, whenever So, there
[00:13:10] was an officer that testified against me
[00:13:12] that was waving people through the
[00:13:13] barricades. I I'll I'll show you the
[00:13:15] video. and he was waving people through
[00:13:19] and then there's hundreds of people on
[00:13:20] this side and I still didn't go through.
[00:13:22] Like me and my dad kind of looked at
[00:13:24] each other and we were like, "What is
[00:13:26] happening?" And I was like, "I don't
[00:13:27] know. I guess they opened everything up
[00:13:29] and then like even right there he was
[00:13:31] like, "You don't think they're going to
[00:13:32] let us in the building, do you?" And I
[00:13:34] was like, "Um, I wouldn't think so." I
[00:13:37] was like, "You know, there's like
[00:13:39] proceedings going on inside." I was
[00:13:41] like, "Maybe this is, you know, the area
[00:13:43] that the protests have the permits for."
[00:13:45] So we make our way up. I'm talking. I'm
[00:13:48] saying stuff like I'm an American. I
[00:13:49] have the First Amendment. And um so I'm
[00:13:53] saying, you know, like we're storming
[00:13:54] the capital. You know, we're like, you
[00:13:57] know, they can't stop us. And what I'm,
[00:13:59] you know, the DOJ will tell you that I
[00:14:01] was talking about, you know, capital
[00:14:03] police, you know, that, oh, these guys
[00:14:05] can't stop us. They're trying to say
[00:14:06] that I like was making that
[00:14:08] disassociation. But what I'm talking
[00:14:10] about is like the protest like American
[00:14:12] people finding out the truth of what was
[00:14:15] going on. And to be completely honest,
[00:14:17] like I'm overwhelmed. I don't really
[00:14:19] have any idea what's going on inside of
[00:14:20] the building then. Like you know what it
[00:14:23] like how much do you actually know until
[00:14:25] you get to spend like an engrossed
[00:14:28] amount of time like the last 5 years
[00:14:29] that I've spent about what goes on?
[00:14:31] >> I've watched so many videos from January
[00:14:33] 6 and I have no idea what's going on
[00:14:34] even now. I mean it's chaos. It's a
[00:14:37] right. It's impossible in the moment to
[00:14:39] know what's going on.
[00:14:40] >> And you know, to be a like a very like
[00:14:44] junior journalist, like the only thing
[00:14:46] that I've covered at this point is like
[00:14:49] football games for a Big 12 university
[00:14:52] and um you know, a couple basketball
[00:14:55] games here and there, wrote some
[00:14:57] articles for a magazine. Like I'm doing
[00:14:59] the the journalist thing, but I'm not in
[00:15:00] school uh from my injuries. And then
[00:15:04] this is when things get start to get
[00:15:05] weird. Okay. So, um, what happens is,
[00:15:09] and I'll I'll brush you through this
[00:15:11] part, but this is very critical because
[00:15:12] I actually I did send you the evidence
[00:15:13] of of this stuff last night. So, the
[00:15:17] police stop everybody at the base of the
[00:15:19] stairs in front of the Columbus doors
[00:15:21] and then they just open it up. So, we're
[00:15:24] we're like, you know, a couple hundred
[00:15:26] people back. We can't really hear what's
[00:15:27] going on. And they just open up the
[00:15:28] stairs, turn around, and go stand in
[00:15:30] front of the Columbus door. So, we go up
[00:15:32] onto the east side porch cuz I'm
[00:15:34] thinking I'm like, "Dude, this is going
[00:15:35] to be some great footage." That's like
[00:15:37] what that's what I keep thinking. I'm
[00:15:38] like, "This is going to be like this is
[00:15:39] going to be memorable." Like, this is
[00:15:42] something that people are going to talk
[00:15:43] about. If I had only known just how much
[00:15:45] they were going to talk about it. Um,
[00:15:47] you did underestimate it a bit.
[00:15:49] >> Like, yeah. I mean, like, you like
[00:15:52] police are actively letting people into
[00:15:54] the area. And but it gets worse for, you
[00:15:56] know, for my case because then I go up
[00:15:58] onto the porch. Well, then the first
[00:15:59] person that I see like the actual first
[00:16:02] like violence engagement that I saw for
[00:16:04] the day, the literal tip of the spear,
[00:16:05] everybody says that it was the Westside,
[00:16:07] it's not. It's Hunter Allan Mk is uh as
[00:16:10] far as I've come to know that he's an
[00:16:12] anti an Antifa member from California. I
[00:16:15] videotaped him jump up onto the ledge of
[00:16:18] the windows next to the Columbus doors
[00:16:21] and he begins punching and kicking out
[00:16:23] those windows. Well, there are people up
[00:16:25] there that are all dressed pretty
[00:16:27] similar. Now, wait a second, Ryan. Why
[00:16:30] would an Antifa member from California
[00:16:32] be protesting a stolen election on
[00:16:35] Trump's behalf?
[00:16:36] >> That's a great question. And just
[00:16:38] doesn't make sense.
[00:16:39] >> I got called a conspiracy theorist by my
[00:16:41] judge for even mentioning this fact,
[00:16:43] >> right?
[00:16:43] >> So, you know, um I I believe that there
[00:16:47] were people in the crowd that day. Uh I
[00:16:49] I believe that Bobby Pal um rest in
[00:16:52] peace, Bobby. Um, I believe that he also
[00:16:56] captured federal agents that day near
[00:16:58] near that window that were telling
[00:16:59] people to go in the building, but we
[00:17:01] don't have any,
[00:17:02] >> of course. And tell us who Bobby Powell
[00:17:04] was.
[00:17:05] >> Uh, Bobby Powell was an independent
[00:17:06] journalist who um he testified in my
[00:17:09] case. He was he was pressed that was
[00:17:11] there that day just to, you know, take
[00:17:13] take videos. He was never arrested, you
[00:17:15] know, um anything. But he mysteriously
[00:17:19] after he started releasing and talking
[00:17:21] about all of the footage that he had of
[00:17:23] these federal agents uh succumbed to
[00:17:26] multiple heart attacks and then
[00:17:27] eventually passed away from one of
[00:17:29] those.
[00:17:29] >> He didn't kill himself like some of the
[00:17:30] Capitol Hill police officers.
[00:17:32] >> No. No, he didn't. Bobby Bobby was a was
[00:17:35] a a Marine. He was a very strong willed
[00:17:37] man and there's not a chance that he
[00:17:38] would have ever taken his own life.
[00:17:40] >> Yeah. Well, you could say that about
[00:17:41] others who supposedly kill themselves,
[00:17:43] too.
[00:17:43] >> Mhm.
[00:17:43] >> Just a fact. Sorry. I'm sick of I'm sick
[00:17:45] of this.
[00:17:46] >> I am too. I'm I'm for that for just for
[00:17:48] the record like I'm very mentally sound
[00:17:50] and I have no plans to harm myself after
[00:17:52] this interview either.
[00:17:55] >> Um yeah, I used to say that in Jess, but
[00:17:57] it's
[00:17:58] >> it's I mean let's just let's stop
[00:18:00] pretending.
[00:18:01] >> So um okay, you saw and someone who's
[00:18:05] been conclusively identified as an
[00:18:07] Antifa member smash the windows.
[00:18:09] >> Yes.
[00:18:10] >> Yeah.
[00:18:10] >> Who's who's not been seen since? Like he
[00:18:13] got a prison sentence. He has not come
[00:18:15] to any of the J6 functions that I'm
[00:18:16] aware of. I don't know people that know
[00:18:18] him. Like J6 is, you know, 1500 plus.
[00:18:23] Never heard from this dude again.
[00:18:24] >> Did he go to prison?
[00:18:25] >> Uh, apparently for 4 months. I I was
[00:18:28] I've been unable to track down anyone
[00:18:31] that served time with him or a facility
[00:18:33] that he went to like in capacity because
[00:18:36] the Bureau of Prisons won't comment, you
[00:18:38] know, on
[00:18:39] >> Oh, yeah. They won't comment cuz
[00:18:40] >> particularly in our
[00:18:41] >> not our government, right? Yeah, I'm
[00:18:43] getting that impression. Um, okay. So,
[00:18:45] he smashed windows. Then what do you do?
[00:18:47] >> Um, I start videoing, man. Like, you
[00:18:50] know, this is like it's crazy. Like,
[00:18:52] there's like this is a dude that he just
[00:18:54] like jumped up and like smashed a
[00:18:55] window. And so, at this time, all these
[00:18:58] similar dressed people, they turn
[00:19:00] >> and they start yelling at Capital Police
[00:19:02] and they're, you know, saying like, you
[00:19:03] know, hey, we're going to kill you.
[00:19:04] You're not taking them. And I start
[00:19:06] yelling at them. I'm like, leave them
[00:19:07] alone. The police are just doing their
[00:19:09] job. He's breaking the law.
[00:19:11] >> Leave him alone. He's breaking the law.
[00:19:13] Like at that point, it doesn't matter
[00:19:14] what I'm there to protest. Like that's
[00:19:16] not why we're here. Like we protest
[00:19:18] stolen election. We use our voice. You
[00:19:20] know, you can use you can use your your
[00:19:22] voice, what I've discovered, can carry
[00:19:24] so so much farther than any
[00:19:27] >> much more than your gun. That is real.
[00:19:29] >> Yeah. Absolutely. And um so they knock
[00:19:33] this they knock Hunter off the ledge,
[00:19:35] take him into custody just like they
[00:19:36] should. And immediately after this is
[00:19:39] when I go and I ask a Capitol police
[00:19:41] officer by the name of Benjamin Fluke. I
[00:19:42] said, you know, hey, how can we help
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[00:21:20] member on the ledge who smashes the
[00:21:22] windows, you said people dressed in the
[00:21:24] same way came to his defense.
[00:21:26] >> People dressed in like all black. Like
[00:21:28] when you go and you look at the video
[00:21:29] and you hear the voices, you can tell
[00:21:31] that there's like a there's a different
[00:21:33] tone with these dudes and like so as
[00:21:35] I've studied, you know, footage from
[00:21:37] other areas of the capital over the last
[00:21:39] 5 years, too. You can kind of see some
[00:21:40] similarities in the way that people um
[00:21:43] dress. There's also wristbands that have
[00:21:46] been identified on certain people too
[00:21:48] that we think that that was an
[00:21:49] identifying marker for different groups
[00:21:51] that were there to cause problems. So,
[00:21:54] >> have any of them been identified? Are
[00:21:56] they all mass?
[00:21:56] >> Uh, no. No. And then and you know and it
[00:21:59] really doesn't help that the Department
[00:22:00] of Justice was paying you know um like
[00:22:03] the sedition hunters like $100,000 to
[00:22:05] use artificial intelligence to identify
[00:22:07] January 6 that they couldn't do because
[00:22:09] it breaks the law and the way that
[00:22:12] they're going out and gathering
[00:22:13] evidence. So they paid, you know, this
[00:22:15] independent group of leftist Trump
[00:22:17] haters to come and identify us and then
[00:22:19] they were paying them like per arrest uh
[00:22:22] on top. But that's, you know, that's
[00:22:24] like another area. But they hired Antifa
[00:22:26] bounty hunters to hunt down Trump
[00:22:28] voters. Yeah. Got it. Okay.
[00:22:29] >> And so and then like you know Ray Eps
[00:22:31] that whole deal like why you know why
[00:22:34] did the DOJ protect him when they came
[00:22:36] after like everybody else.
[00:22:37] >> Did you see Ray Eps there?
[00:22:39] >> Um
[00:22:41] no I I may have like just like in the
[00:22:45] periphery like when I was walking
[00:22:47] through the west side to leave like
[00:22:48] later in the afternoon but I I never saw
[00:22:50] him.
[00:22:51] >> I keep stepping on your story. My
[00:22:52] apologies. So, you see the window smash,
[00:22:54] people flow into the building, you're
[00:22:56] taking video. What happens then?
[00:22:58] >> So, I asked Benjamin Fluke. I was like,
[00:23:00] "What, you know, what can we do to help
[00:23:01] you?" And instead of saying, you know,
[00:23:03] like, "You need to leave, like you're
[00:23:04] not supposed to be here, like anything
[00:23:06] like that," he tells me stay on the
[00:23:08] porch and take pictures of them. And
[00:23:10] that's and that's in my transcripts. you
[00:23:12] know, he actively admits that not only
[00:23:14] did he like deputize me to stay up there
[00:23:17] to assist them with people that like
[00:23:18] getting video to people that are
[00:23:20] attacking them. He doesn't, you know,
[00:23:22] he's not asking me to leave. So, I do
[00:23:24] that. I stay up there uh with my dad,
[00:23:27] you know, my dad gives um his business
[00:23:30] card, you know, he has he has his
[00:23:31] congressional cards. He's he's where I'm
[00:23:33] at now. He has a house number. He has FC
[00:23:34] filings. Like like we're in this, you
[00:23:37] know, the election's coming up. you
[00:23:39] know, we're we're running for Congress
[00:23:41] with him. And we give that business card
[00:23:43] out and this is when um
[00:23:47] one of the the worst parts of January 6
[00:23:50] happens. Shortly after this, we're up
[00:23:52] there. I'd say probably about 40 minutes
[00:23:54] is like the total length of my capital
[00:23:57] day. Um at least being on like on the
[00:23:59] porch. So those police officers, we're
[00:24:03] talking to them. Um I'm listening to the
[00:24:06] radio that one of them has. It's up
[00:24:08] here. Um I I misspoke at the time
[00:24:10] because it was really hard to hear radio
[00:24:12] traffic, but I'm saying things like, you
[00:24:14] know, uh there are people inside of the
[00:24:16] capital. There's a fire inside. I'm
[00:24:18] posting all this on Facebook, you know,
[00:24:20] and I'm I'm trying to stay like neutral
[00:24:23] from this like point forward because
[00:24:26] basically everything, you know, it's it
[00:24:28] turned on a dime. You know, we went from
[00:24:30] a protest to what what is this? And so
[00:24:33] I'm talking to those officers and then
[00:24:35] Ashley Babbot is murdered by Michael
[00:24:37] Bird and we can hear the shots inside of
[00:24:39] the building from where from where we
[00:24:42] are. And um there's a video. So all of
[00:24:46] the Capitol police officers that
[00:24:48] testified against me, uh Officer Fluke,
[00:24:50] Officer Mooney, and the officer who was
[00:24:53] seen on film waving people through I
[00:24:55] cannot remember his name right now. Um
[00:24:58] but uh they all testified that at no
[00:25:00] point did the Capitol police take me and
[00:25:04] my father behind their police line where
[00:25:06] they were holding Hunter because we were
[00:25:09] working with them. And well now I have
[00:25:11] that video in my possession. That camera
[00:25:13] was not allowed to be viewed before it
[00:25:15] went to trial. And the video that I sent
[00:25:18] your team last night is the literal
[00:25:19] perjury of all three of my federal
[00:25:21] witnesses in my case that stated that I
[00:25:25] was not there to assist police at that
[00:25:26] time and that I was not working with
[00:25:28] them because there's an officer that
[00:25:29] comes over. He separates us from
[00:25:33] protesters in the gear that I was
[00:25:35] talking about and says like, "Hey, these
[00:25:37] guys are with us. He's running for
[00:25:38] Congress. This is his son. He's been
[00:25:41] helping document if people attack us."
[00:25:43] And he says it. So they they originally
[00:25:45] they think that the shooting is like
[00:25:47] down on the lower level. They don't know
[00:25:49] you know where it is in the building and
[00:25:53] so they um take us and we go like right
[00:25:56] into the corner of the Columbus doors.
[00:25:58] Well, all of a sudden the 20,000 lb
[00:26:01] doors that have to be remotely opened
[00:26:05] from inside of the United States capital
[00:26:07] by pushing a button open.
[00:26:11] They open the Columbus doors and there
[00:26:13] are people that are coming in and out of
[00:26:16] those doors. And
[00:26:19] it is at this this is the point of the
[00:26:22] day where the officer that we've been
[00:26:24] talking to that was never identified by
[00:26:25] the Department of Justice, they refused
[00:26:27] to identify this individual along with
[00:26:29] the other uh five or six police officers
[00:26:31] that were on the porch. just got the
[00:26:33] three that testified against me when I
[00:26:35] had multiple additional witnesses that I
[00:26:37] could have called that wore a badge that
[00:26:38] would have said like no, they were
[00:26:40] helping us. But um
[00:26:43] at this point is when we see like the
[00:26:45] first like remnants of the battle that's
[00:26:48] going on either inside of the capital
[00:26:49] cuz I don't necessarily know where this
[00:26:51] officer came from. I haven't been able
[00:26:53] to identify him because they won't give
[00:26:55] us the cameras of the porch. And um so
[00:27:00] he comes out, he's injured. Um he's
[00:27:02] holding his shoulder, he's got mace all
[00:27:05] over his face. And dad works in sports
[00:27:07] medicine. And he was he looks at he just
[00:27:09] takes one look at him and he's like,
[00:27:10] "That guy needs medical help." So dad
[00:27:12] tries to help him. He declines help, but
[00:27:14] he has mace all over his eyes. And so
[00:27:16] I'm reaching through my bag trying to
[00:27:19] get out water to um let him rinse his
[00:27:22] eyes out. And then at that point, this
[00:27:25] is like the last interaction that we
[00:27:27] have with pretty much anyone for the day
[00:27:30] is because at that point, that's when
[00:27:32] Mariel Bowser declares that there's
[00:27:33] going to be a curfew that comes in. So,
[00:27:35] we can hear it on the radio of the guy
[00:27:38] uh the the police officer, Capital
[00:27:40] police officer that's standing there.
[00:27:41] And so, he says, you know, "Hey, we
[00:27:43] appreciate all of your help. Things are
[00:27:44] getting really crazy on the other side.
[00:27:46] It' probably be a good idea for y'all to
[00:27:47] leave." We say, "Okay." That guy refuses
[00:27:50] treatment one more time. He's rinsing
[00:27:52] his eyes out. I asked my dad. I was
[00:27:54] like, "Hey, I want to put the big lens
[00:27:55] on. I want to stand on this pillar over
[00:27:57] here and I want to take pictures inside
[00:27:59] and see what's going on." And that's the
[00:28:01] first time that day that you can
[00:28:04] actually see people like like pushing
[00:28:06] and shoving with like a cappa police
[00:28:09] officer. Uh at least from our
[00:28:10] perspective. Now, if you have the big
[00:28:12] high camera and you can look over like
[00:28:14] you can see that there was some in front
[00:28:15] of us that we couldn't see. I'm I'm
[00:28:17] 5'8", you know, 200 lb and like I like
[00:28:22] I'm not I'm not the tallest guy in the
[00:28:24] in the world. So I, you know, I can't
[00:28:25] see over a lot of people. So then we
[00:28:28] leave, you know, we go back around. Uh I
[00:28:30] take some pictures by the bike racks
[00:28:32] where what I think is blood is on the
[00:28:34] ground, but I'm not sure. It could have
[00:28:35] been a spilled drink. Like it could have
[00:28:36] been like anything where the bike racks
[00:28:38] were. And we start making our way
[00:28:40] around. And then I see Jacob Chanley,
[00:28:42] which we all came to know is the, you
[00:28:43] know, the Q and Shaman. Um, I saw him on
[00:28:47] the the steps of the Senate side and we
[00:28:50] make our way around to the west and this
[00:28:52] is when it hits and it's like this is
[00:28:56] going to be talked about forever because
[00:28:59] the sea of people that were out there
[00:29:02] just thousands and thousands of people
[00:29:05] that are on that side. We have no like
[00:29:07] we're we're on the east side sheltered
[00:29:09] in a tiny little corner.
[00:29:12] We have no idea the scale of what is
[00:29:14] happening at the capital and you know
[00:29:17] and people always talk about the
[00:29:18] westside footage and things you know
[00:29:21] they always show you know the tunnel
[00:29:22] videos where you see people attacking.
[00:29:24] Well the reason that they were attacking
[00:29:26] that day is because a cap or sorry a
[00:29:27] metro police officer Laya Morris had
[00:29:30] just beaten a woman to death by the name
[00:29:32] of Roseanne Boland.
[00:29:34] And that's what they were reacting to.
[00:29:37] And so as we're making our way around to
[00:29:39] go get onto the metro, the closest metro
[00:29:41] was directly across the the west back
[00:29:44] towards the other side. So we made a
[00:29:46] beline through the crowd.
[00:29:47] >> Can are you allowed to beat people to
[00:29:49] death in this country?
[00:29:50] >> Um well apparently if you wear a badge
[00:29:52] in DC which is which if you don't know
[00:29:55] like across the standard the capital
[00:29:58] police and metro police um with their
[00:30:01] combined particularly on the metro side
[00:30:02] is the ninth most violent police force
[00:30:04] in America.
[00:30:05] >> Yeah. Of course,
[00:30:06] >> you you think about that. Think about
[00:30:07] all the sheriff's offices, the police
[00:30:09] officers around the country. They're the
[00:30:11] ninth most violent police force in
[00:30:13] >> they always had the highest accidental
[00:30:15] discharge rate for their handguns, too.
[00:30:17] >> Yeah. Which, you know, amazing that it
[00:30:19] didn't, you know, it didn't happen that
[00:30:21] day. So, that was that was my J6 day,
[00:30:23] you know, like outside of saying things
[00:30:25] like, "We're storming the capital. Like,
[00:30:27] do you hear us?" You know, like words
[00:30:31] outside of a building. I never went
[00:30:32] inside the building. I never assaulted
[00:30:34] anybody. I never broke anything. I was
[00:30:36] assisting police officers on the porch,
[00:30:38] yelling at protesters.
[00:30:39] >> You never went inside the building.
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[00:31:58] >> Okay. So, did you have any worry that
[00:32:01] you would be arrested for what you
[00:32:02] didn't do? No, because I what what I
[00:32:05] thought was going to happen was that we
[00:32:07] were going to turn over the videos of
[00:32:08] Hunter Miy um that that we had that we
[00:32:11] would probably fill out an affidavit and
[00:32:13] I was I was kind of expecting like a
[00:32:15] call from like maybe Secret Service FBI
[00:32:18] somebody,
[00:32:20] you know, over over that time. But what
[00:32:23] actually happened was later February
[00:32:25] 4th, 2021 at just after 4:00 a.m. the
[00:32:29] FBI drives through the front of my house
[00:32:31] with a 12T battering ram.
[00:32:33] >> Actually,
[00:32:34] >> yes.
[00:32:34] >> They're monsters. I just want to say
[00:32:36] that. That's disgusting. Treat you like
[00:32:38] that.
[00:32:38] >> I agree. You know, a phone call.
[00:32:40] >> There's been no reform of them at all.
[00:32:42] And on other channels are just being
[00:32:43] screamed at for asking questions.
[00:32:45] >> There's there's been there's been no
[00:32:47] accountability across across the board
[00:32:49] from it. And that's not to say that I
[00:32:51] don't support law enforcement in this
[00:32:53] country.
[00:32:53] >> I don't support that. I don't care what
[00:32:54] you call that. I don't support that's
[00:32:56] the oppression of the population
[00:32:59] >> that employs you and pays for this and
[00:33:01] you have no right to treat citizens like
[00:33:02] that. I mean that is
[00:33:05] >> Sorry, excuse pardon my lecture. So
[00:33:07] you're in bed,
[00:33:08] >> you're back in Texas.
[00:33:09] >> Yes.
[00:33:10] >> Do you live in an apartment house?
[00:33:11] >> I lived I lived in a rent house at the
[00:33:13] time and
[00:33:14] >> and you're asleep.
[00:33:15] >> Sound asleep.
[00:33:16] >> And what what happened? What was your
[00:33:17] experience? So, um I actually don't hear
[00:33:21] anything. So, I did kind of live in a
[00:33:23] rough neighborhood around Le, you know,
[00:33:25] it's getting close to Avenue Q. It's
[00:33:27] it's bit on the rough side. So, I think
[00:33:30] my house is
[00:33:30] >> Cuz you're a rich guy. You're a person
[00:33:31] of privilege. Is that what you're
[00:33:32] saying?
[00:33:33] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm just super
[00:33:35] loaded. That's why I'm in this position.
[00:33:37] Um
[00:33:38] >> So, you live you live in the hood.
[00:33:40] >> Yes. Very very much so. But it's I mean,
[00:33:43] it's a it's a great part of the
[00:33:44] district, though, too. Like, it's it's
[00:33:46] not it's just funny. It's like it just
[00:33:48] it has some higher crime rates and it
[00:33:51] they you know LPD's done a great job
[00:33:53] actually in recent months like getting
[00:33:55] that area cleaned up. So it's it's
[00:33:57] getting better and uh but the people
[00:33:59] there are still like like even my
[00:34:01] friends and neighbors, you know, that
[00:34:03] were around there, they're still they're
[00:34:04] just appalled at the way that I was
[00:34:06] treated.
[00:34:07] >> So you're asleep and what do you
[00:34:08] experience?
[00:34:10] um my front door flying all the way
[00:34:12] across the living room and damaging both
[00:34:16] of my couches and it kind of lays
[00:34:18] sideways where the door is blocked and I
[00:34:21] just think that my house is being broken
[00:34:23] into. I have no idea what's going on.
[00:34:25] And so I I'm a 2A will always be 2A. The
[00:34:28] second amendment is to defend your home,
[00:34:31] your property, and your country from
[00:34:33] both enemies, foreign and domestic. And
[00:34:36] so I'm leaned across the railing with an
[00:34:39] AR, not knowing that there are federal
[00:34:42] agents outside until
[00:34:44] >> Come on. Why didn't they just call you?
[00:34:48] >> See, and this is the thing because at
[00:34:49] this point, this is when they've made
[00:34:51] the first announcement over the
[00:34:52] bullhorn. Ryan Zinc, this is the FBI.
[00:34:54] Come out with your hands up.
[00:34:56] >> But why didn't they just call you and
[00:34:57] say report, you know, come downtown?
[00:34:59] because they so they used a Facebook
[00:35:01] post that I said I'm not coming quietly
[00:35:04] on some stuff. I'd seen some of the
[00:35:06] other arrests, but I'm talking about my
[00:35:07] voice. I'm a journalist. Like I'm not
[00:35:10] some, you know, redneck, you know.
[00:35:13] >> Who are these Americans doing this?
[00:35:15] >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I I do I still
[00:35:17] believe to this day that there's foreign
[00:35:19] interference uh in 2020 as well, all
[00:35:21] through the Biden election,
[00:35:22] >> obviously term administration. But but
[00:35:25] these the thugs who ripped your door off
[00:35:28] the hinges,
[00:35:29] >> they're Americans.
[00:35:30] >> Yes. The FBI.
[00:35:31] >> So sad.
[00:35:31] >> So, but there there were multiple
[00:35:33] agencies that that worked it. I mean,
[00:35:35] we're talking about 60 people in a
[00:35:37] helicopter,
[00:35:38] >> actually.
[00:35:39] >> Yes.
[00:35:39] >> And you never went inside the building?
[00:35:41] >> They they shut down the blocks around my
[00:35:44] house for fear that I was going to run.
[00:35:46] Like, where am I going to go? We're
[00:35:48] federal agents in the back. This is what
[00:35:50] happens when you murder Americans and
[00:35:52] there's no and Lindsey Graham applauds
[00:35:54] and every bipartisan applause for
[00:35:56] killing Americans. I got I'm just going
[00:35:58] to say it. I thought that about the ICE
[00:35:59] killings.
[00:36:00] >> I'm totally opposed to mass migration.
[00:36:02] They should deport every illegal. I
[00:36:03] really believe that they're destroying
[00:36:04] this country. However, it's not a small
[00:36:06] thing to shoot an American in the in the
[00:36:08] throat. It's just not. And you can't
[00:36:10] just blow past it because if they treat
[00:36:12] some liberal lesbian chick that way,
[00:36:14] they're going to treat you that way at
[00:36:15] certain some point. That's what I think.
[00:36:17] >> Yeah. And but and we have to look at
[00:36:18] those individually across the scale.
[00:36:20] It's individual actions.
[00:36:22] >> Don't show brutality to Americans.
[00:36:23] That's how I feel. Like why wouldn't I
[00:36:25] feel that way?
[00:36:25] >> Yeah.
[00:36:26] >> Sorry. I don't know why I'm out of
[00:36:27] control. Okay. So you you've got an AR.
[00:36:30] God bless you.
[00:36:31] >> And then what happens?
[00:36:33] >> Uh they make the announcement and I
[00:36:34] dropped it quick because if anyone if
[00:36:37] any one of those guys had come around
[00:36:39] the corner, I wouldn't be here.
[00:36:40] >> No. Oh, you'd be like riddled Swiss
[00:36:43] cheese,
[00:36:45] >> you know? You'd be like the guy who
[00:36:46] predicted 9/11.
[00:36:48] >> Yeah.
[00:36:48] >> Or
[00:36:48] >> you'd be like the the guy who showed up
[00:36:50] at Comet Pizza
[00:36:52] >> at the wrong time. Yeah.
[00:36:53] >> Yeah. And he was he was just shot to
[00:36:55] death in a traffic stop two weeks ago as
[00:36:57] you have seen
[00:36:58] >> resisting arrest. Um Yeah. No, I'm sure
[00:37:00] they couldn't wait to kill you. So, wow.
[00:37:02] So, you dropped the AR and then you find
[00:37:04] out it really is federal agents.
[00:37:05] >> Yes. And so, I'm like I'm trying to peek
[00:37:07] around the corner to see what's going on
[00:37:09] because again, I live in a bad
[00:37:10] neighborhood. Like this is a tactic
[00:37:12] that's used by people to infiltrate
[00:37:13] homes where they'll be like, "Please
[00:37:15] come out with your hands up." And it's
[00:37:16] actually four dudes that are coming
[00:37:17] after the robber.
[00:37:18] >> Exactly. Exactly.
[00:37:19] >> So I I can't really tell. But then
[00:37:21] that's when the red dots, you know, hit
[00:37:23] all over me and that's when the flash
[00:37:25] >> actually. The red dots were on your
[00:37:26] body.
[00:37:27] >> Yes. Yes. They were actively going to
[00:37:29] shoot me. Like if I had come around the
[00:37:31] corner with that, what would have
[00:37:32] happened? If I had decided not to post
[00:37:34] up at the back, man, what would have
[00:37:35] happened? I
[00:37:36] >> quick anyway. Yeah. No.
[00:37:38] >> Or would it? you know, I mean,
[00:37:40] >> like slow slow bleed out. So, I'm taken
[00:37:43] into custody. I walk out. It's it's like
[00:37:45] I don't know, like 12 degrees outside
[00:37:47] this day and they will not let me have
[00:37:50] shoes. I'm standing outside barefoot in
[00:37:53] jogger pants and like a t-shirt for good
[00:37:57] 38 minutes. So, as they're inside of the
[00:37:59] house, they are flashbanging my dogs
[00:38:02] repetitively. a six pound papon, not
[00:38:05] even at that time, he's like three
[00:38:06] pounds, and a 70 pound chocolate lab,
[00:38:09] who's my bird dog, who now has PTSD and
[00:38:11] he's damaged. He can he can't hunt
[00:38:13] anymore. He's he's completely retired.
[00:38:16] >> Do any of these guys go to prison?
[00:38:18] >> No. Every one of them should go to
[00:38:19] prison for doing this.
[00:38:21] >> I I believe that there are people that
[00:38:24] infiltrated this from Washington DC,
[00:38:26] like Michael D. Brown, the the lead over
[00:38:28] my case. I believe that he should be
[00:38:29] behind bars, no questions asked. But
[00:38:31] anybody flash bangs your chocolate lab
[00:38:34] should be in prison. It's really simple.
[00:38:35] >> Yeah. Well, and and not just that, but
[00:38:38] they need to pay for like the damages
[00:38:40] that it's that it's caused, you know,
[00:38:42] just like to to our family. And and I'll
[00:38:44] get, you know, into that some uh later
[00:38:47] very briefly. But it's it's not just
[00:38:49] that. It's the way that they perpetrated
[00:38:51] this whole thing. Like they broke every
[00:38:54] door in my house. Unlocked doors, the
[00:38:55] bathroom door broken, bedroom door
[00:38:57] broken, smashed open for no reason. You
[00:39:00] know, they they stole things from my
[00:39:02] coin collection. I'm I'm still missing
[00:39:04] Roman coins. All of my gold coins are
[00:39:05] gone. They these these are federal
[00:39:08] agents. Federal agents stealing from it.
[00:39:12] Like there's money. There's like a
[00:39:14] couple hundred dollars missing from my
[00:39:15] wallet. You know, the federal agents
[00:39:18] doing this. How does that You know, I I
[00:39:21] wouldn't jud I'm not leaving the United
[00:39:23] States, period. I'm going to die here.
[00:39:25] >> But I wouldn't judge you if you said,
[00:39:26] "I'm out. I'm going to El Salvador. I'm
[00:39:28] going to a civilized country. No,
[00:39:30] clearly you're not. And I respect that.
[00:39:32] But I also wouldn't judge you if you
[00:39:33] said I can't I can't live in a place
[00:39:34] like this. This is too scary.
[00:39:36] >> I'm not I'm here for the long run. I'm
[00:39:38] texting I'm texting by birth. We're
[00:39:40] going to fight. I promise.
[00:39:42] >> And you know, so all that happens. I
[00:39:45] wind up I go to Le County Jail. As I'm
[00:39:48] leaving, so they try to unlock my phone.
[00:39:50] They didn't have a warrant for my phone
[00:39:51] at first. They're trying to unlock it
[00:39:52] with my face. Michael Brown is uh
[00:39:55] Michael D. Brown. There's a there's a
[00:39:57] difference in those characters. Not much
[00:39:59] in morality causes though. But um you
[00:40:02] know they tell me you know like do you
[00:40:04] know why we're here? And I'm like I'm
[00:40:05] guessing this has something to do with
[00:40:06] the capital. I'm not saying anything
[00:40:08] else. You're not my friends. Blah blah
[00:40:09] blah. So the the the love police officer
[00:40:13] from LPD pulls over after I'm taken into
[00:40:16] custody. Shuts off all of his cameras,
[00:40:18] body camera, video camera, everything,
[00:40:20] and says, "We wanted to do this a
[00:40:22] different way." What happened to you
[00:40:24] today? We were threatened that if we
[00:40:26] interfered in any way that they would
[00:40:28] strip our badge and take us right down
[00:40:29] to the jail with you because you had
[00:40:31] multiple people from this department
[00:40:33] that know you that told them all you
[00:40:35] have to do is make a phone call.
[00:40:36] >> Yeah. And
[00:40:38] >> so forced this.
[00:40:41] >> Yeah. So that that happened. So the
[00:40:44] next, you know, couple weeks I'm at Le
[00:40:46] County Jail that I everyone was very
[00:40:48] nice there except for this one, you
[00:40:51] know, like super lesbian chick that was
[00:40:53] there that was always in a bad mood. And
[00:40:55] um, you know, I still talk to some of
[00:40:58] these corrections officers that I see
[00:40:59] them, you know, and I pass them on the
[00:41:01] street now that my case has been
[00:41:02] dismissed and I have my pardon. You
[00:41:04] know, they're always like, you know, it
[00:41:05] was really crazy for us to see you there
[00:41:07] because it was obvious that you didn't
[00:41:08] belong. And um, so this is where the
[00:41:12] diesel therapy started. So this is a
[00:41:13] common tactic. All J6ers went through
[00:41:15] this in some form or another. So first I
[00:41:18] went to Eden, Texas, had an impromptu
[00:41:20] uh interrogation as a terrorist like
[00:41:23] where I was physically removed from the
[00:41:24] rest of the population, taken into a
[00:41:26] separate building, placed into a room
[00:41:28] with one man who I later found out was
[00:41:31] like the intake coordinator of that
[00:41:34] facility. I cannot remember his name
[00:41:35] right now. Uh he's in the lawsuit, so
[00:41:38] we'll be seeing more about that to come.
[00:41:40] But uh he you know he brings me in does
[00:41:42] an impromptu interrogation says that he
[00:41:44] knows that I'm a terrorist that I'm
[00:41:45] working with other people and stuff like
[00:41:48] >> who is this guy?
[00:41:49] >> He he just works for the facility. It's
[00:41:51] it's a core civic facility. It's a
[00:41:53] private institution that he just felt
[00:41:56] like he was going to, you know, be like
[00:41:58] Captain Save America or something.
[00:42:00] Obvious Democrat.
[00:42:02] >> Yeah, private prisons. Good idea.
[00:42:04] >> Yeah.
[00:42:04] >> Thank you. Whoever thought that up.
[00:42:06] Yeah, good good plan. Yeah. Not to
[00:42:08] mention that like uh you know I I do I
[00:42:10] do believe in in strong punishments for
[00:42:12] criminals. Like I'm not you know I I
[00:42:15] think that there's gross negligence on a
[00:42:18] lot of judges for the sentences that
[00:42:19] they put on people. But I when you look
[00:42:22] at the prison system, it's a monopoly.
[00:42:24] Like it's all the same people that are
[00:42:25] making all the money, you know, keeping
[00:42:27] Americans behind bars. And then like the
[00:42:29] grievance processes and things like
[00:42:31] that, there's there's a lot that needs
[00:42:32] to be done for prison reform, you know,
[00:42:34] just for just for conditions. And and
[00:42:35] you'll you'll see that in the the next
[00:42:37] part of this this segment like by the
[00:42:39] time that I get to Washington DC I've
[00:42:41] already seen like not not at le county
[00:42:44] like nothing happened there but at some
[00:42:45] of the other facilities like federal
[00:42:47] like transfer like core civic you know
[00:42:49] you see dudes in there that are being
[00:42:51] forced to like put lipstick on with
[00:42:54] M&M's like green M&M's. They have to
[00:42:56] dunk them in water and hold somebody's
[00:42:57] pocket and this is all in you know plain
[00:43:00] view of staff.
[00:43:00] >> Why are they doing that? What does that
[00:43:02] mean? because they're owned by somebody
[00:43:05] in there. They're being raped.
[00:43:08] >> How long were you behind bars?
[00:43:10] >> Um, so from I So 84 days is about what I
[00:43:15] did for the whole thing. I'm one of the
[00:43:16] lucky J6ers for for all
[00:43:19] >> That doesn't seem lucky to me for never
[00:43:20] going inside the building, never
[00:43:22] breaking. But when you look at, you
[00:43:24] know, some of the other people, Enrique
[00:43:27] Tario, Ryan Samil, you know, some of
[00:43:29] some of the conditions, like I had it
[00:43:30] bad, like when when I got to DC, but I
[00:43:33] got to I I got to be out. I got to be
[00:43:35] with my family. I got to meet with my
[00:43:37] attorneys. I didn't have to spend two,
[00:43:39] three, four years in solitary
[00:43:41] confinement,
[00:43:42] you know, being driven crazy. My my
[00:43:44] extent was just the DC and then I had to
[00:43:48] go to a federal prison in Arizona, which
[00:43:50] that's a whole another thing in itself.
[00:43:52] right there. You know, my my worst part
[00:43:55] of my journey was um well, it will
[00:43:59] always be the two miscarriages,
[00:44:03] but um
[00:44:04] >> excuse me.
[00:44:05] >> I'm sorry.
[00:44:08] >> It's hard. I wasn't going to get
[00:44:09] emotional today, America.
[00:44:11] >> No, it's all right.
[00:44:11] >> But um you know, when when I got to the
[00:44:15] facility, I was a J6er. Like, this is in
[00:44:17] C2B. This is the original pods. This
[00:44:19] whole facility in Washington DC is
[00:44:21] covered in mold. This place was
[00:44:23] condemned and then reopened for use um
[00:44:26] due to compiling crime that was going
[00:44:28] on. And I'd like to remind everybody
[00:44:30] that the Trump administration at the end
[00:44:32] arrested 67 or 62 I think people. And
[00:44:36] then by the 6-month mark, Joe Biden's
[00:44:38] administration had arrested well over
[00:44:40] 600 people at that point. So I'm one of
[00:44:44] the first people to get arrested for all
[00:44:45] of this. And what is given to all of
[00:44:48] these different agencies across the
[00:44:50] region, everyone, and what they actually
[00:44:51] told people in person. They were still
[00:44:53] talking about Brian Siknic and his death
[00:44:55] and how like J6ers like beat him to
[00:44:56] death or something like that, which he
[00:44:58] died from natural causes. Uh, you know,
[00:45:00] we saw that, we've seen the autopsy
[00:45:02] report. They told cops at the scene that
[00:45:04] I had murdered a police officer.
[00:45:07] Of course, these guys are coming
[00:45:09] slamming. You know, like none of that's
[00:45:11] in the official paperwork, though. This
[00:45:12] is just what I know from, you know,
[00:45:14] doing my own research and coming back
[00:45:15] and talking to people. So, by the time
[00:45:17] that I get to DC, well, DC is obviously
[00:45:21] a Democratic district. All the people
[00:45:22] that work at this jail are not, at least
[00:45:25] on the intake side, a majority of them,
[00:45:27] they're not from this country. They're
[00:45:28] all foreigners. So, when we get there,
[00:45:30] the abuse starts. Like, I've got I can
[00:45:32] show you like scars on my wrist from
[00:45:34] where they dug handcuffs into me until I
[00:45:36] bled. I show I show these everywhere I
[00:45:39] go.
[00:45:39] >> They're foreigners.
[00:45:40] >> Yes. I I believe most of them are from
[00:45:42] Somalia. At least the intake crew, the
[00:45:44] people that are actually
[00:45:45] >> What? Yes.
[00:45:47] >> At that facility when I was there, I
[00:45:49] would say probably 70% of that staff was
[00:45:52] foreigners.
[00:45:54] >> Somali.
[00:45:55] >> Yep.
[00:45:57] Or a region close by, just according to
[00:45:59] the dialect that I looked into. So,
[00:46:03] >> whites are in serious trouble in this
[00:46:04] country. They're not going to be treated
[00:46:05] well. Sorry. Well, I I think anybody
[00:46:09] anybody who goes against the status quo
[00:46:11] is not going to get treated well. I
[00:46:12] don't think it matters what color you
[00:46:13] are.
[00:46:13] >> Well, there's just so much hatred toward
[00:46:15] people on the basis of their skin color
[00:46:16] that like it's not good.
[00:46:18] >> Well, and that that's a problem in my
[00:46:19] district, too. Like, you know, we we
[00:46:21] have, you know, candidates that only
[00:46:23] work with one particular style of
[00:46:24] people, but they'll take money from
[00:46:25] everybody,
[00:46:27] >> you know, and there's there's a track
[00:46:28] record to that, but I I'll get into that
[00:46:30] uh later. So when I get to when I get to
[00:46:32] DC, I'm segregated from the rest of the
[00:46:35] people that are there that, you know,
[00:46:37] are just like being transferred. I think
[00:46:38] there was like one guy was there for
[00:46:39] murder and there's another guy for like
[00:46:40] burglary or habilitation, something like
[00:46:42] that. And I'm handed a bag of water and
[00:46:45] a moldy ham sandwich. That's that's my
[00:46:47] welcome to DC. So um I haven't eaten
[00:46:52] like I've been getting diesel therapy. I
[00:46:53] was in Oklahoma City.
[00:46:54] >> What's diesel therapy?
[00:46:55] >> Uh that's where they just like my family
[00:46:58] had no idea where I was. They wouldn't
[00:47:00] like they wouldn't let attorneys know
[00:47:01] that you were being transferred. They
[00:47:03] would just move you from place to place
[00:47:04] to place. So I went from Love County to
[00:47:07] Eden, Texas to the core civic facility.
[00:47:10] Then I was taken to uh Midland, Texas,
[00:47:13] but we did a big round road trip all the
[00:47:16] way up to like uh Anon, Texas, then back
[00:47:19] down. Then I went over to Midland. I got
[00:47:20] on Conair. I actually flew uh on the,
[00:47:24] you know, big Con Air plane and I flew
[00:47:27] from um Midland to Oklahoma City. Then I
[00:47:31] went to the Federal Sorting Center just
[00:47:33] outside of Oklahoma City. And then I was
[00:47:35] also putting on to a smaller plane. I
[00:47:37] was flown to either somewhere in
[00:47:38] Pennsylvania or New Jersey. And then we
[00:47:40] did a road trip where they didn't allow
[00:47:42] us to stop like period until we got to
[00:47:47] the jail. Like they stopped on the side
[00:47:50] of the road to relieve themselves. But
[00:47:51] they wouldn't let us out to do it. Then
[00:47:53] then
[00:47:54] >> Were you handcuffed during this travel?
[00:47:55] >> The entire time. Shackles, handcuffs,
[00:47:57] and a box over the top.
[00:48:00] >> Are you serious?
[00:48:01] >> Yeah.
[00:48:02] >> In the vehicle. You're shackled
[00:48:04] >> in the van. Yeah. From for this entire
[00:48:06] like however many hours that we drove.
[00:48:08] And mind you, I don't know where I am. I
[00:48:09] I still don't know what airport we
[00:48:11] landed at to be able to get an accurate
[00:48:13] time description.
[00:48:14] >> What were the other guys like who were
[00:48:16] traveling with you?
[00:48:16] >> Uh, one of them was a J6er. Um,
[00:48:20] I mean they were some, you know, a
[00:48:22] little rowdy. I mean, it's, you know,
[00:48:24] it's prison, jail, like they've, you
[00:48:28] know, talking talking crap, like
[00:48:30] everything else. But, you know, pretty
[00:48:32] relaxed, I'd say, for the most part. Um,
[00:48:34] at least from what I like up to that
[00:48:36] point, like then I was like, you know,
[00:48:39] still like new to the whole, you know,
[00:48:41] being arrested scene. So, I didn't
[00:48:42] really know like what rowdy meant then.
[00:48:45] But then um
[00:48:47] you know so we uh we're we're in there.
[00:48:50] We finally get there. I get him a moldy
[00:48:52] hemp sandwich.
[00:48:54] Um and then it takes hours to get
[00:48:57] process. So they come in, they take a
[00:48:58] picture of your iris, uh you know, of of
[00:49:00] your eye, sorry. And um you know, get
[00:49:03] your fingerprints, get everything done.
[00:49:05] if you said anything to them, they're
[00:49:07] either going to like push you, shove
[00:49:11] your head into something like they're
[00:49:13] very very aggressive. And then um my So
[00:49:17] the reason that I have the scars on my
[00:49:18] wrist from the handcuffs is because I
[00:49:20] asked this particular gentleman where he
[00:49:23] wanted me to put my clothes and he told
[00:49:26] me, "Shut the f up. Do what he says."
[00:49:28] And then as soon as that happened, I was
[00:49:30] like, "Okay, here or there," basically.
[00:49:33] and he just was like just turn around.
[00:49:36] And so they put cuffs on me, taking me
[00:49:38] all the way through. Um I still like
[00:49:40] there's just there's still a lot of
[00:49:42] trauma from this that I sort through. So
[00:49:43] I just give
[00:49:43] >> this is such a nightmare. I can't even
[00:49:45] I'm listening to you thinking like how
[00:49:47] would I handle this? I don't know.
[00:49:49] >> Well, you just I mean it the only way
[00:49:51] that I handled this was my was my faith
[00:49:52] in Jesus. I mean I I'll just be
[00:49:54] completely upfront and honest about it.
[00:49:56] >> Were you a Christian when it started?
[00:49:57] >> Absolutely. I was a Christian. I wasn't
[00:49:58] living my life the way I was supposed
[00:50:00] to. But I can definitely tell you that
[00:50:02] this woke me up to where, you know, it's
[00:50:04] it's and and I'll get I'll get into
[00:50:06] that. You you'll see the exact moment
[00:50:08] here in just a minute, too. But, you
[00:50:10] know, I I make it to the first cell and
[00:50:13] um the first cell that I'm introduced to
[00:50:16] at this facility has a quarter inch of
[00:50:18] urine and feces on the ground and
[00:50:19] there's no running water in this cell.
[00:50:21] Like eventually they turn the water on
[00:50:23] to where is there, but we're talking 2
[00:50:25] days later, you know? So, I'm in here.
[00:50:27] I'm in the cell that's covered in mold.
[00:50:29] Urine and feces. Another person's urine
[00:50:31] and feces. Not mine, by the way.
[00:50:33] >> This is in Washington DC.
[00:50:34] >> This is in Washington DC in C2B. The
[00:50:36] first pod that I was put in, I think it
[00:50:37] was I think it was six to the right if
[00:50:39] you go to the far left of when you walk
[00:50:41] into there.
[00:50:41] >> What are we doing? I don't understand.
[00:50:43] Like what is this country doing?
[00:50:44] >> I I don't I don't either. And it gets
[00:50:46] worse. Like it gets a lot worse from
[00:50:48] there. And so at this point in time,
[00:50:52] this is when um I'm starting to
[00:50:55] complain. You know what I'm saying? You
[00:50:56] know, like, "Hey, can you get me a
[00:50:57] plunger? Like, can I have a mop? Can I
[00:50:58] have anything?" Denied. Denied. Denied.
[00:51:00] Denied. Denied. They're not letting me
[00:51:02] out. I haven't showered. It's been 3
[00:51:03] days. Been there. No shower. At this
[00:51:05] point, it's really been like 5 days
[00:51:07] because I haven't showered since I left
[00:51:08] the sorting center in Oklahoma. Okay.
[00:51:10] So, you know, I had to do a whole flight
[00:51:13] plus a drive, you know, to get there. At
[00:51:16] this point, I haven't really eaten
[00:51:17] anything. Um, I'm getting food at this
[00:51:20] for for these couple of first days that
[00:51:22] I'm there. And um I finally I get an
[00:51:26] attorney call and uh I had some other
[00:51:28] attorneys that um they're Democrats.
[00:51:31] They decided not to um continue with my
[00:51:35] case because I refused the plea deal. I
[00:51:36] wouldn't take it. I sent you a copy of
[00:51:38] that as well. So um so you can see like
[00:51:41] the verbiage and what like the
[00:51:42] government wanted me to admit to in
[00:51:44] order to receive probation
[00:51:47] um versus a 20-year felony. And um so
[00:51:52] I I complained to my attorney and she
[00:51:54] calls the facility and says, "You know,
[00:51:55] we want to do a conditions check." So
[00:51:57] they moved me all the way to the end.
[00:51:58] I'm at the very end cell of the block.
[00:52:00] And um this made them very mad. Very,
[00:52:05] very mad. As a matter of fact, I only
[00:52:07] got to come out to shower like twice
[00:52:08] during this point and one of them is
[00:52:10] super critical. So I'm here for however
[00:52:12] many weeks that I'm at this facility and
[00:52:15] this is when they started putting
[00:52:16] putting bleach in my food. um or Windex,
[00:52:20] any type of chemical that was in there.
[00:52:21] I never had another meal that if I got
[00:52:24] to eat didn't have some kind of chemical
[00:52:26] in it because I had complained about the
[00:52:28] facility and obviously I got somebody in
[00:52:29] trouble. But I still don't know who that
[00:52:31] is to this day because they won't open
[00:52:34] records, you know, for for J6ers. So, I
[00:52:37] never I asked for a Bible every single
[00:52:39] day that I was there, which is why I
[00:52:41] carry mine with me everywhere I go.
[00:52:43] Brought here to the studio today. Um
[00:52:46] that I was I was allowed to have a book.
[00:52:48] So, this is the only thing that I had in
[00:52:49] solitary confinement the entire time
[00:52:51] that I was there. It was an eighth grade
[00:52:53] level reading book about a slave owner
[00:52:55] who falls in love with a slave, cheats
[00:52:56] on his wife, and runs away to the north
[00:52:58] with her. Perfect reading for an eighth
[00:52:59] grade, you know, school, I guess, in
[00:53:02] Washington DC. And
[00:53:06] so,
[00:53:07] I'm sitting in myself. I'm I'm losing
[00:53:10] lots of weight. Like, I'm I I don't have
[00:53:12] a cup to drink out of. I'm drinking out
[00:53:14] of the bag that my soap came in. Um,
[00:53:17] I'm getting I'm very sick. I'm rinsing
[00:53:20] out like rice and trying to rinse off
[00:53:22] like they would give us boiled eggs if
[00:53:24] and then when they would deliver my
[00:53:25] food, they would, you know, bring it in
[00:53:26] like the little styrofoam things too.
[00:53:28] And sometimes there would just not be
[00:53:30] anything in there. So, I would go for
[00:53:31] days on end without eating or I would
[00:53:34] have, you know, rice and a piece of ham
[00:53:36] that's completely soaked in bleach that
[00:53:37] I have to stick inside of my socks and
[00:53:38] start ringing it out, you know, just to
[00:53:40] be able to have some sustenance.
[00:53:42] And um it like I'm I'm having all kinds
[00:53:45] of stomach issues. Um I'm losing weight
[00:53:47] very very very rapidly at this point and
[00:53:52] um I'm I'm getting very sick. Well then
[00:53:54] one day they finally they let me out for
[00:53:56] a shower and of course somebody goes in
[00:53:58] my cell and I'm thinking, you know, oh
[00:53:59] they're probably just doing an
[00:54:00] inspection or something like that. Well,
[00:54:01] what had actually happened was is they
[00:54:03] tried to kill me. They went in and they
[00:54:05] placed raw pieces of chicken inside of
[00:54:08] my water line to where it would I would
[00:54:12] turn on the faucet and the water would
[00:54:14] come out and it would go past the raw
[00:54:15] pieces of chicken. And I didn't figure
[00:54:18] this out for I I I don't really know
[00:54:20] when like how how many days it was
[00:54:23] because I like no sense of time because
[00:54:24] I didn't have a tablet. I didn't have
[00:54:26] anything that other prisoners were
[00:54:27] allowed to be afforded because I was all
[00:54:28] the way at the end. And um the only way
[00:54:32] that I knew this was because I was
[00:54:33] drinking out of that bag that my soap
[00:54:35] came in and a little piece fell out. And
[00:54:38] I was able to stick my toothbrush, my
[00:54:40] little governmentisssued 2-in toothbrush
[00:54:42] up inside of there and knock all of that
[00:54:44] chicken out and there were three pieces
[00:54:46] about this big inside of there. And mind
[00:54:49] you, I went in at like I'm like I'm
[00:54:51] since I got out of prison, like
[00:54:52] obviously I've been I've been eating a
[00:54:54] little bit, you know, but I I went in at
[00:54:56] like 180. I came out at like 130 lbs.
[00:54:59] Like I would get out.
[00:55:00] >> You lost 50 lbs in
[00:55:01] >> 50 lbs in custody in Washington DC. You
[00:55:04] know, when when you consider like
[00:55:06] stress, not eating, you know, just the
[00:55:09] overwhelming amount of stress, like
[00:55:10] having nose bleeds all the time from the
[00:55:12] chemicals that are in my food, throwing
[00:55:14] up all the time because my stomach hurts
[00:55:16] and I don't have anything to keep keep
[00:55:17] it down, being denied medical at all,
[00:55:20] not never allowed to have a medical
[00:55:21] form, never allowed to have a grievance
[00:55:23] form, nothing. Like, we were isolated
[00:55:26] alone, left there to die. I thought I
[00:55:28] was going to die.
[00:55:31] As I say it before you now, I thought
[00:55:33] there was a point in time where I was
[00:55:35] going to die. I was looking out the
[00:55:37] window of the cemetery. There's a
[00:55:39] cemetery that goes around this building
[00:55:42] on the backside. And I would watch
[00:55:43] people. It was the only thing I had
[00:55:45] because I the I only had that one book
[00:55:47] about a slave that I, you know, slid
[00:55:48] back out under the door so somebody else
[00:55:50] could have something to do. And I would
[00:55:52] watch people walk their dogs through the
[00:55:54] cemetery. And I looked out there and I
[00:55:56] was like, I'm going to die in here and
[00:55:59] like this is probably where I'm going to
[00:56:00] go and my family's not going to know,
[00:56:02] you know, like what happened to me and
[00:56:07] by the grace of God,
[00:56:09] he came into the cell with me, you know,
[00:56:12] while I'm praying like, God, what like
[00:56:14] what did I do to deserve this? Like I
[00:56:15] thought I stood for something that day.
[00:56:18] I didn't hurt anybody. I didn't damage
[00:56:20] anything. like I didn't do anything that
[00:56:22] would really
[00:56:24] make me deserve this. Like like why am I
[00:56:27] here? And God said very clearly, I know
[00:56:32] the path that I have for you. You're
[00:56:35] you'll be fine. You're going to get out
[00:56:38] of this. I'll be right there with you.
[00:56:42] Stay where I put you. Stay where I put
[00:56:46] you. That's
[00:56:47] >> Did you believe him?
[00:56:49] I it was hard to at at the time, but
[00:56:54] seeing the progression of where
[00:56:56] everything has gone, Tucker, he was
[00:56:58] there.
[00:56:59] He was there the whole time.
[00:57:01] >> And he never left me. Period. And he'll
[00:57:04] never leave anybody that believes in
[00:57:06] him. No matter where you're at, I
[00:57:07] promise he'll be in the fire with you. I
[00:57:10] promise he'll be there,
[00:57:13] >> man.
[00:57:14] Like
[00:57:16] I would get out like 4 days later,
[00:57:20] my uh the video of me protecting police
[00:57:22] officers on the east porch would get to
[00:57:24] Judge Boseberg and he would release me
[00:57:28] and I was one of the first ones to get
[00:57:29] out like out of all this. And that's
[00:57:31] when the fight began. You know, we
[00:57:33] started going I was looking at decades
[00:57:34] in prison.
[00:57:36] >> Decades.
[00:57:37] >> Decades in prison. Um,
[00:57:40] >> I just want to say again that no one who
[00:57:42] did this has ever been punished that I
[00:57:44] know of.
[00:57:45] >> No, they haven't. And
[00:57:46] >> I don't understand how if Republicans
[00:57:48] have all three branches of government,
[00:57:50] have the Congress, both chambers and the
[00:57:52] and the executive branch. I don't
[00:57:53] understand how no one's been punished.
[00:57:55] >> Well, I can tell you it's because
[00:57:57] there's a division that's up there. A
[00:57:59] third of the people want J6ers to go to
[00:58:02] prison forever. A third of the people
[00:58:04] just want J6 to disappear, and the other
[00:58:07] third don't care. They're too focused on
[00:58:10] everything else,
[00:58:12] which you know,
[00:58:14] >> we're all gonna have to answer for what
[00:58:16] we do.
[00:58:16] >> That's true.
[00:58:17] >> Yeah,
[00:58:17] >> that's true. Very much so. So, that's
[00:58:20] that's that's basically the worst part
[00:58:22] besides the miscarriages. You know, we
[00:58:24] >> What What did you mean when you said the
[00:58:26] miscarriages? So, my my wife and I,
[00:58:28] we've had two miscarriages
[00:58:30] um during this entire process of me
[00:58:33] being arrested
[00:58:34] um and then uh the conviction was um up
[00:58:39] to that point and now we have one
[00:58:41] daughter, another one on the way. So,
[00:58:43] >> bless you. Yeah.
[00:58:44] >> So, so I was like,
[00:58:46] >> you know, it's it's just crazy to me
[00:58:48] that I would have a 4-year-old, a
[00:58:49] three-year-old, an 18-month-old, and
[00:58:51] then one more on the way uh right right
[00:58:53] now with our other daughter that's
[00:58:55] expected in April. And I just they're
[00:58:58] the reason that I fight because I have
[00:59:00] to leave something behind.
[00:59:02] >> Yes.
[00:59:02] >> Um for them. And then so, you know, we
[00:59:04] would go through this whole process of
[00:59:07] going back and forth to trial. with the
[00:59:08] imminent peace that just rained over me,
[00:59:11] you know, from that point. It's one of
[00:59:12] the things that, you know, like, yeah,
[00:59:14] it was difficult getting convicted in
[00:59:16] DC, but, you know, 14 Democrats, two
[00:59:19] Democrat, you know, prosecutors. I have,
[00:59:21] you know, three federal witnesses that I
[00:59:23] can now prove perjured themselves in
[00:59:25] their testimony. Um, I had 300 Brady
[00:59:29] violations.
[00:59:31] They refused to turn over 300 points of
[00:59:33] evidence from my camera, cell phone, and
[00:59:36] uh SD cards that I took for pictures on
[00:59:38] the day. Um all the way up into to the
[00:59:41] trial, they were still saying that I had
[00:59:42] assaulted police officers, gone into the
[00:59:44] building, and was just running like
[00:59:47] ruckus that day. Um so we got those
[00:59:50] dismissed. I was September 23rd, I was
[00:59:52] convicted of the obstruction felony,
[00:59:55] 1512 C2, that was overturned at the
[00:59:57] Supreme Court. Uh I was put on stay and
[01:00:01] uh a motion to stay until the Supreme
[01:00:03] Court ruled on that. And then when we
[01:00:06] got to sentencing, I was only convicted
[01:00:07] of the two misdemeanors. And there's a
[01:00:09] very critical aspect. I sent y'all the
[01:00:11] picture last night of what it was
[01:00:12] supposed to be posted outside. Well,
[01:00:14] John Nif, another J6er, just got his,
[01:00:17] you know, the Supreme Court didn't
[01:00:18] actually hear the case, but they made a
[01:00:21] ruling on it that said that the First
[01:00:22] Amendment application ends the second a
[01:00:24] person crosses the threshold of the
[01:00:26] United States capital. So if that's the
[01:00:28] case and they made the ruling on his
[01:00:30] that the First Amendment ends, I never
[01:00:32] crossed the threshold. So we'll see what
[01:00:33] the future holds for my lawsuits against
[01:00:36] the federal government.
[01:00:40] >> So when were you convicted?
[01:00:42] >> S September of 23.
[01:00:46] >> So I mean that you know this has
[01:00:49] basically just like consumed your life
[01:00:50] for years.
[01:00:52] Hundreds of thousands of dollars.
[01:00:55] What I mean, how do you have a job
[01:00:57] during this? Like how what are you doing
[01:00:58] with your life when you're just
[01:01:00] >> So I'm I'm still active in safety. Like
[01:01:02] I can get a like I I work in safety
[01:01:04] right now. Um I'm
[01:01:06] >> in safety.
[01:01:07] >> Uh so I'm I am a safety coordinator. So
[01:01:11] I look at like what people are doing
[01:01:13] when they work and decide um which I
[01:01:17] mean I have a boss, you know, so it's
[01:01:19] like
[01:01:20] >> Yeah. No, I just I I didn't mean
[01:01:21] specifically who do you work for, but
[01:01:22] like what? So, you like go into a work
[01:01:24] site and assess what
[01:01:25] >> Yeah. And I do I do audits and I watch
[01:01:27] like behavioral mechanisms to see like
[01:01:30] if ergonomically there's something that
[01:01:31] we could change to stop somebody from
[01:01:33] getting hurt. Is there a process that we
[01:01:35] can change? Are there administrative
[01:01:36] controls? Are there like can we put a
[01:01:38] guard to prevent somebody from sticking
[01:01:39] their hand inside of here? Right.
[01:01:41] >> And then I was uh also uh at some of the
[01:01:45] harshest times. So I was actually
[01:01:46] working I have no problem trashing them.
[01:01:48] I was working for Bearcrop Sciences.
[01:01:49] there as their um safety director for
[01:01:53] the the research and development
[01:01:55] department and uh working with cotton,
[01:01:57] you know, all these different um just
[01:01:59] stuff that's relevant to my area, you
[01:02:01] know, where where I live. And they they
[01:02:03] terminated me when I got convicted. I
[01:02:04] told them, you know, I'm going on
[01:02:05] appeal. And um
[01:02:07] >> why' they fire you?
[01:02:08] >> For getting convicted. Bear's very
[01:02:10] liberal. So
[01:02:12] >> Bear being the German pharma company.
[01:02:14] >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. So they, you know, it it
[01:02:17] just um you know, that was one of the
[01:02:19] things I I was working.
[01:02:20] >> How liberal are they?
[01:02:22] >> Very like
[01:02:23] >> that doesn't sound liberal. That sounds
[01:02:24] like authoritarian kind of.
[01:02:26] >> Well, when you see like all the rest of
[01:02:28] the stuff that they do around the globe,
[01:02:30] it's very easy to see like which side
[01:02:32] they lean to. Like um the red tape
[01:02:35] bureaucratic control of like what
[01:02:37] they're spraying, the secrecy of behind
[01:02:39] it. I mean, you look
[01:02:40] >> what they're spraying.
[01:02:41] >> Yes. like agents that are harming you
[01:02:44] know farmers like we have you know all
[01:02:47] like the chemicals that they spray are
[01:02:48] are causing health issues amongst you
[01:02:51] know farmers it's not just here this is
[01:02:52] like a global aspect
[01:02:54] >> but bear is doing that
[01:02:56] >> and yeah so I mean
[01:02:57] >> B like what like what what does the
[01:03:00] general public actually know about
[01:03:01] what's being zero
[01:03:03] >> zero and then all of that paperwork and
[01:03:06] everything is bound up and there's only
[01:03:07] a select group of people that can know
[01:03:09] what's being sprayed out on an airplane
[01:03:10] you know 500 yards from your house on
[01:03:13] land that they're leasing. You know,
[01:03:14] there there's some there's some real
[01:03:16] issues and some transparency issues that
[01:03:17] need to be handled. And that's one of
[01:03:19] the things that I hope to go forward
[01:03:20] with in Congress. Um, you know, if
[01:03:24] elected is that
[01:03:25] >> So, you're saying chemtrails are not
[01:03:26] just a conspiracy theory.
[01:03:27] >> I would Well, I mean, when you look at
[01:03:29] that, it's I I would believe that chem.
[01:03:33] They've admitted it's real, but it's
[01:03:35] just funny after and so is cloud
[01:03:36] seating. I mean, we literally have
[01:03:38] companies that are stating that they've
[01:03:39] been successful at putting, you know,
[01:03:41] manufactured rain in our area.
[01:03:44] >> Of course. No, of course. That's that's
[01:03:46] true around the world.
[01:03:47] >> But, um,
[01:03:48] >> which if it's successful, I think,
[01:03:49] >> well, they also said for 4 years that J6
[01:03:52] was totally organic. It was not a false
[01:03:54] flag. And now we know it was a false
[01:03:55] flag.
[01:03:56] >> Documents that came out this week that,
[01:03:58] you know, even Christopher Ray, who by
[01:03:59] the way, I forgot a part. So, when I was
[01:04:01] arrested, he flew to Lach and gave the
[01:04:03] police chief of Levik an award. Um, and
[01:04:05] then he became mashing all your doors
[01:04:07] and
[01:04:08] >> ter I mean the feds did that.
[01:04:10] >> So what was the effect on your family on
[01:04:13] your wife for example?
[01:04:14] >> Um we we had a lot a lot of problems. I
[01:04:18] think it was very scary the fact that um
[01:04:21] so my wife and I we've never had a
[01:04:23] wedding because we we couldn't I didn't
[01:04:25] want them to label her as a domestic
[01:04:27] terrorist. If you go in and look at the
[01:04:28] quiet skies program and you know also uh
[01:04:31] the way that the Patriot Act is allowed
[01:04:33] to move throughout communities, the
[01:04:35] Patriot Act, I believe, is one of the
[01:04:36] most unconstitutional acts that was ever
[01:04:38] passed after 9/11. They're literally
[01:04:41] able to quantify you. So I was labeled
[01:04:44] as a white uh as a white Christian
[01:04:46] nationalist and then a domestic
[01:04:49] terrorist. So like um this is the first
[01:04:51] flight.
[01:04:51] >> You were labeled as white and Christian,
[01:04:53] huh?
[01:04:53] >> Yes.
[01:04:54] >> Yeah.
[01:04:54] >> Yes. So, um, this is the first flight
[01:04:57] that I've had that doesn't have the four
[01:04:59] S's at the bottom of it since, uh,
[01:05:02] February 4th, 2021.
[01:05:04] This flight, this flight here, to where
[01:05:06] I didn't get stopped at every single
[01:05:08] gate that I went through for never even
[01:05:11] going into the building.
[01:05:14] So, you know, and like, and you know,
[01:05:16] going back to the whole work thing, I I
[01:05:17] do have to say that I did travel all
[01:05:19] across the state of Texas and speak. I
[01:05:21] would do speaking engagements, too,
[01:05:23] where I would talk about J6. I had the
[01:05:24] Trump trailer. It was gifted to me by um
[01:05:28] one of the GOP chairs in Amarillo and I
[01:05:31] was selling Trump merchandise all across
[01:05:33] the the state of Texas at events, Fourth
[01:05:35] of July, you know, any any place that I
[01:05:37] could find that I could post up all
[01:05:39] while running for Congress in the last
[01:05:41] term, you know, as well while I'm, you
[01:05:43] know, going through this because no
[01:05:46] representation. There were only two
[01:05:47] people that actually stood up for me uh
[01:05:50] out of all the offices that I called,
[01:05:52] including Jody Arrington, the current uh
[01:05:54] you know, budget committee chairman and
[01:05:56] congressman for my district that's
[01:05:58] retiring. He refused to help the the two
[01:06:00] people.
[01:06:01] >> Why?
[01:06:01] >> Um
[01:06:03] well, again, a third a third of them
[01:06:05] want us to go to prison forever. A third
[01:06:07] of them wanted us to, you know,
[01:06:09] disappear. And the other third don't
[01:06:12] care. And
[01:06:13] >> did you ever speak to Jod Arrington?
[01:06:15] >> Face to face. met face to face, showed
[01:06:17] him everything that I've given you.
[01:06:18] >> What did he say?
[01:06:19] >> Nothing. Said that he wasn't getting
[01:06:21] involved.
[01:06:24] >> Nothing.
[01:06:24] >> We're all gonna have to answer for how
[01:06:26] we live.
[01:06:26] >> We are. But I do I do have to give shout
[01:06:29] out um to the two people that did. I
[01:06:32] disagree with some of the stuff that's
[01:06:33] happened. Policies are indifferent, but
[01:06:35] I have to give uh credibility where
[01:06:37] credibility is due. Dustin Burroughs,
[01:06:39] the speaker of the house for the state
[01:06:40] of Texas, wrote a letter to the judge.
[01:06:42] And um
[01:06:43] >> good for him. George Santos, of course,
[01:06:46] >> former congressman George Santos, uh,
[01:06:49] wrote it in. And I love I love, uh, I
[01:06:51] love George. I I talk to him, you know,
[01:06:53] pretty regularly. I disagree with the
[01:06:55] the way that some of the stuff with him
[01:06:57] was handled. Um,
[01:06:58] >> you know, it just I never understood why
[01:07:01] they
[01:07:02] >> George Santos is got a rank at the very
[01:07:05] bottom of the ranking of like threats to
[01:07:06] national security.
[01:07:08] >> Yeah.
[01:07:08] >> Why George Santos went to prison? He did
[01:07:11] real He did time in prison also, as you
[01:07:12] know.
[01:07:13] Why do they hate George Santos so much?
[01:07:15] Who, by the way, anyone who knows George
[01:07:16] Santos, impossible to hate the guy.
[01:07:18] >> Yeah, he's he's very nice.
[01:07:20] >> Oh, yeah. He's amazing. But just uh and
[01:07:23] I don't agree with him on everything
[01:07:24] either, but I don't need to. He's a
[01:07:25] decent man, you know. He's a nice man.
[01:07:27] But I think it's stuff like that that
[01:07:30] got him.
[01:07:30] >> Well, and he I mean, he brought me into
[01:07:32] his office. His staff was very very nice
[01:07:34] to me, of course.
[01:07:35] >> And he and he looked through everything.
[01:07:37] >> Of course he did.
[01:07:38] >> And you know, and did, you know,
[01:07:39] anything that I thought was in his power
[01:07:41] to to help. And you know, it wasn't it
[01:07:43] wasn't enough. Like the GOP chairs in a
[01:07:45] couple of different counties wrote some
[01:07:46] letters, but actual elected officials,
[01:07:49] that that's it. And I called every
[01:07:51] office in the state of Texas.
[01:07:53] >> What about your governor?
[01:07:55] >> Abbott doesn't care.
[01:07:56] >> What What about Senator Ted Cruz?
[01:07:59] >> Cruz's office wouldn't respond.
[01:08:00] >> They wouldn't respond.
[01:08:02] >> I couldn't even get a call back.
[01:08:05] Nothing.
[01:08:05] >> You should have told him you're Israeli.
[01:08:09] Um, he'd show up at your house. Of
[01:08:11] course he asked for money, but um like
[01:08:14] we we got multiple phone calls from
[01:08:15] unavailable numbers that said if your
[01:08:17] dad drops out of the race, we'll drop
[01:08:18] the charges. Like we'll give you
[01:08:20] $200,000 to drop and take the plea deal.
[01:08:23] Like I I got phone calls like all
[01:08:25] through this.
[01:08:26] >> Was your dad arrested?
[01:08:27] >> No.
[01:08:29] >> Interesting.
[01:08:30] >> Well, and I mean that's one of the
[01:08:32] things that it's like why did they
[01:08:34] target me was because I wasn't a
[01:08:35] Republican congressional candidate. I
[01:08:37] was just there, you know, and um
[01:08:40] >> poor dad. He must have felt such guilt.
[01:08:44] >> Yeah. Yeah. No, he he he did, but at the
[01:08:47] end of the day, it's not his fault.
[01:08:48] >> No, of course it's not his fault, but
[01:08:50] >> you know, and like he he does and he
[01:08:52] like he gets real emotional about it um
[01:08:54] sometimes. But the thing is is that we
[01:08:56] never stopped the fight. We never
[01:08:58] stopped. All this did was make me mad.
[01:09:00] The things that I've been through, all
[01:09:02] this did was prove that our government
[01:09:04] has too much power. All this does is
[01:09:06] prove that the people of the United
[01:09:08] States of America have had their
[01:09:09] constitutional rights whittleled away
[01:09:11] from them one vote at a time in a room
[01:09:15] of like 435 people that then goes up to
[01:09:18] the Senate gets signed off on. That's
[01:09:21] that's where we're at because we I I
[01:09:24] believe that we're I fully believe that
[01:09:27] we are not in a battle against flesh and
[01:09:29] against flesh and blood, but spiritual
[01:09:31] battle for the United States of America.
[01:09:33] And not just for that, for our world.
[01:09:36] And that's one of the biggest parts of
[01:09:38] my message of why I want to run for
[01:09:40] Congress is not just what I've been
[01:09:42] through, which was a nightmare, but it
[01:09:44] was who stood with me while I was in the
[01:09:47] fire. And that's Jesus Christ. That's my
[01:09:48] that's my faith. There are three books
[01:09:50] that built this nation. The Bible, the
[01:09:52] Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.
[01:09:54] And they all three play off of each
[01:09:56] other. And that is my platform because
[01:10:00] the United States was designed to be run
[01:10:03] underneath
[01:10:05] the men who have the respect for the
[01:10:07] Bible. And if you don't have that, then
[01:10:10] your oath means nothing.
[01:10:11] >> That's right.
[01:10:13] any oath that somebody takes to this
[01:10:15] country. And some of the oaths in
[01:10:17] Washington DC, I I don't think they're
[01:10:18] valid either. Like when you look at Jeb
[01:10:20] Bosberg, a Skull and Bones member, you
[01:10:22] know, there's lots of things with him
[01:10:24] that are just ridiculous. That's my
[01:10:27] judge. And if you don't, like for the
[01:10:28] viewers, if you don't know who that
[01:10:30] judge is, that's the one that's trying
[01:10:31] to make President Trump bring back the
[01:10:33] 127 Venezuelans who were put on a plane
[01:10:35] and he tried to make the plane turn back
[01:10:37] around. You know, this is an unelected
[01:10:38] official,
[01:10:39] >> right,
[01:10:40] >> trying to dictate out of a district of
[01:10:42] the United States of America trying to
[01:10:44] dictate exactly what a president can do,
[01:10:46] what the Supreme Court can do, what you
[01:10:48] can do. And then he's destroying lives.
[01:10:51] He's the chief judge in DC. And I
[01:10:54] believe that he's responsible cuz even
[01:10:56] at trial, like he denied me a defense of
[01:10:58] the First Amendment, allowed 300 Brady
[01:11:00] violations, witnesses to lie. Um, you
[01:11:03] know, he says like I'll give you an
[01:11:04] example, one of the jurors that I had.
[01:11:06] So, one of the people that was approved
[01:11:08] for jury um in my for my trial was a
[01:11:12] Democrat leader for I think it was the
[01:11:15] Netherlands who he literally stated when
[01:11:19] he came he was like, "I don't think that
[01:11:21] I can sit for this case because I
[01:11:22] believe that everyone that was at the
[01:11:23] capital that day is a terrorist." And
[01:11:26] James Bowberg was like, "Well, um what
[01:11:29] we're talking about specifically is this
[01:11:31] defendant. have you seen anybody or
[01:11:33] anything about him that would lead you
[01:11:35] to believe that you couldn't be bare and
[01:11:37] partisan? And he said, "Well, I guess
[01:11:39] not." And they said, "Great. We'll see
[01:11:40] you at 4:00 for selection." This is in
[01:11:43] my transcripts.
[01:11:45] Like, that's the kind of fairness that
[01:11:47] we had. 14 Democrats. One of them cared
[01:11:50] so little about my life, he fell asleep
[01:11:51] and then never shut back up after the
[01:11:53] third day.
[01:11:54] >> It's not a jury if you're Pierce. I
[01:11:56] think it's
[01:11:57] >> the other the other thing I noticed is
[01:11:59] that people believe whatever they're
[01:12:01] told by the media.
[01:12:03] >> Well, absolutely. And you know, I really
[01:12:05] do think that mainstream
[01:12:07] um leftistleaning media is the true
[01:12:10] enemy of the people of the United States
[01:12:12] because the you you can still tell a lie
[01:12:15] while telling a portion of the truth.
[01:12:17] Like if you if you leave out, you know,
[01:12:19] any part that's absolutely relevantly
[01:12:21] critical, you can completely spin a
[01:12:23] story while it's true. like what they're
[01:12:25] saying for as far as liel, slander goes,
[01:12:28] you know, those probably don't apply.
[01:12:30] Defamation, because one portion of it is
[01:12:32] true, like they they'll be fine in a
[01:12:34] courtroom, but we don't have judges that
[01:12:36] are going after them, you know, for for
[01:12:39] the way that they portray things. And I
[01:12:41] I think that there should be
[01:12:42] accountability in media, you know, and
[01:12:45] but but how how do we do that? Did
[01:12:47] anyone cover Did any media organization
[01:12:49] cover J6 fairly, do you think? Or was it
[01:12:52] all
[01:12:52] >> um Jen Phillips from Love gave me a fair
[01:12:55] shot? I I think that Manny from Abalene
[01:12:57] gave me a fair shot. That's it.
[01:13:00] you know, I I mean, as far as as far as
[01:13:02] like the, you know, the leftist leading
[01:13:05] like NBC, ABC affiliates now, like the
[01:13:08] Epic Times, like all the people that I
[01:13:10] talked to along the way, you know, uh,
[01:13:12] Diamond and Silk, like all the shows
[01:13:14] that I've been on, they've been very
[01:13:15] fair, you know, and asked some hard
[01:13:17] questions, you know, and things that
[01:13:19] people wanted to know. And and I think I
[01:13:21] think that's fine. I think that's great,
[01:13:23] you know, banter. But then, you know,
[01:13:24] you look back at um, you know, what was
[01:13:26] done to me this this last week. I was at
[01:13:29] a I was at a forum. KCBD comes in, they
[01:13:32] do an interview with me and instead of
[01:13:35] actually showing, so like I've already
[01:13:36] filed an appeal and my case has been
[01:13:38] dismissed. So not only did I go through
[01:13:40] all of this, but my case is now
[01:13:41] dismissed and I'm pardoned by the
[01:13:43] president. So instead of stating all of
[01:13:46] the facts, they just said, you know, put
[01:13:48] up a video of me talking about the
[01:13:50] district and then said Zinc was
[01:13:51] convicted of crimes in September of 23,
[01:13:54] even despite the fact that none of those
[01:13:56] are relevant anymore that I've gone
[01:13:58] through this all.
[01:13:59] >> Have your gun rights been restored?
[01:14:01] >> Yes. Yes, they have. So, and I and I use
[01:14:05] them and I encourage everybody to have
[01:14:07] them. And every, you know, everywhere
[01:14:09] that I go, I I carry and I think every
[01:14:11] American should, too. I think you should
[01:14:13] be given two things at birth, a Bible
[01:14:14] and a gun.
[01:14:15] >> Yep.
[01:14:16] >> And and and you and learn to use them
[01:14:18] both accordingly because they will be
[01:14:20] the biggest weapons that you need to
[01:14:21] fight everything in this world.
[01:14:23] >> Uh particularly more so in the Bible.
[01:14:26] But um
[01:14:27] >> now I'm running again.
[01:14:29] >> So why are Okay, so first of all, thank
[01:14:32] you for recounting that. Um
[01:14:34] >> appreciate Yeah, man.
[01:14:35] >> Was it emotional?
[01:14:36] >> It is. And man, I try I try not to, but
[01:14:39] man, it's so
[01:14:40] >> Oh, it made me emotional. Um, okay. Why
[01:14:43] are you running for Congress?
[01:14:45] >> I want to make sure
[01:14:48] that West Texas stays away from
[01:14:52] Washington DC politics and Austin, Texas
[01:14:54] politics.
[01:14:56] We have a great thing in our district
[01:14:59] and we have lots of issues that need to
[01:15:02] be looked at sincerely and we cannot
[01:15:05] have somebody who is not willing to
[01:15:07] speak up in the fight for our country.
[01:15:10] Um,
[01:15:12] representation in our area has always
[01:15:14] been very laxed on what they'll say and
[01:15:16] I think that we need a strong front. I
[01:15:19] think that I've been vetted out. You
[01:15:21] know, I I refuse to take a plea deal. I
[01:15:23] refuse to b bend the knee. So, I feel
[01:15:26] like I've already been vetted. You can
[01:15:28] tell a lot about a person who um
[01:15:33] has faced the giants and came out on the
[01:15:36] other side and kept moving. And I I
[01:15:39] believe that I would do a lot of good
[01:15:41] for the district because we're in a
[01:15:43] spiritual battle and I've become so
[01:15:45] close in my faith. Um I have a lot of
[01:15:48] support for my community. There's I've
[01:15:49] never actually met a person that has
[01:15:52] condemned me for what happened once
[01:15:54] they've seen like everything that I was
[01:15:57] able to show them.
[01:15:58] >> I don't know what they would condemn you
[01:15:59] for.
[01:16:00] >> I don't Well, you'd be surprised. I
[01:16:02] mean, there's some people you're just
[01:16:03] never gonna reach. I mean there it's
[01:16:05] like you can see it on like Facebook
[01:16:07] post, Twitter posts, which I don't even
[01:16:08] have a congressional
[01:16:10] uh Facebook page right now because they
[01:16:12] seized it again.
[01:16:13] >> Who did
[01:16:14] >> Facebook?
[01:16:14] >> Why
[01:16:15] >> they took it down? Because I am uh not
[01:16:19] real.
[01:16:20] >> Disinguous behavior.
[01:16:22] >> What? I I'm totally confused. When did
[01:16:25] Facebook take this down?
[01:16:26] >> Uh like 5 days ago. So they seized
[01:16:28] >> They took down your congressional
[01:16:29] Facebook page.
[01:16:30] >> Yes. Yes.
[01:16:31] >> On what? I'm okay. for disingenuous
[01:16:33] behavior.
[01:16:34] >> Disinguous. Like,
[01:16:35] >> yeah, they're basically saying that I'm
[01:16:37] not who I say that I am, even though I
[01:16:39] am a congressional candidate. They they
[01:16:41] keep seizing it. And I'll I I can I'll
[01:16:43] scroll through my phone. I got like 50
[01:16:44] different examples. I'm actually filing
[01:16:46] charges with the L County Sheriff's
[01:16:47] Office over this. I'm not really sure
[01:16:49] what's going to be able to be done about
[01:16:52] this because, you know, we saw like
[01:16:53] Carac Castanova fought her case against
[01:16:55] Facebook and I think she spent a couple
[01:16:57] million dollars and lost. But, you know,
[01:16:59] this is one of those those things where
[01:17:01] a left-leaning liberal outlet like he's
[01:17:03] donated like $500 million to Democrats,
[01:17:07] speaking specifically about Mark
[01:17:08] Zuckerberg, and then they have the right
[01:17:11] to deny my voters my opinion just
[01:17:15] because they can say that I'm
[01:17:16] disingenuous. But did you do something
[01:17:19] to trigger this?
[01:17:19] >> There's only two posts on there. One was
[01:17:21] about abortion. I tried to post
[01:17:23] something about abortion because I
[01:17:24] believe that life begins at conception.
[01:17:27] >> Obviously, it does.
[01:17:27] >> Yeah. I will never vote for anything
[01:17:29] that would promote abortion in America.
[01:17:30] Abortion is murder.
[01:17:31] >> Of course it is. And
[01:17:33] >> everyone knows that, by the way.
[01:17:34] >> Yeah. And you know, and that was one of
[01:17:36] the things that they just absolutely
[01:17:38] would not let me post. And then the day
[01:17:39] after that, they seized it.
[01:17:41] >> Oh, so Mark Zuckerberg doesn't want
[01:17:43] anything to get in the way of human
[01:17:44] sacrifice.
[01:17:44] >> I I don't I don't know if that's his it
[01:17:46] stands, but from the people he hangs out
[01:17:48] with, I think that that could be a real
[01:17:50] possibility. Yeah. I think that's real.
[01:17:52] I think most of what they're
[01:17:53] >> So, you're running for Congress. I I
[01:17:55] don't think I've heard a story of
[01:17:56] someone mistreated by the government
[01:17:58] like the one you just told in a long
[01:18:00] time. That's an unbelievable story. And
[01:18:03] then you want to participate. You you
[01:18:05] you don't become a revolutionary. You're
[01:18:06] not stockpiling C4. You're like, I'm
[01:18:08] going to go to Washington, change the
[01:18:10] system within the structures that our
[01:18:12] forefathers created. Like you're doing
[01:18:14] the right thing.
[01:18:15] >> Mhm.
[01:18:16] >> And Zuckerberg's like, yeah, I don't
[01:18:17] like your position on abortion. You you
[01:18:20] can't talk in public anymore. What do
[01:18:22] you do about that? like who do you
[01:18:24] appeal to? X.
[01:18:27] That's the that's where I go to, you
[01:18:30] know, it's uh you know, Ryan Z for
[01:18:32] Congress is is my page on there. I've
[01:18:34] never once been taken down. I've never
[01:18:36] had anything and I've posted some real
[01:18:38] doozies, you know, like
[01:18:41] you just you have to go where the where
[01:18:43] the freedom is in in this country. And
[01:18:47] uh so X, you know, independent uh shows
[01:18:50] to get the truth out,
[01:18:51] >> but there's no one you can call if
[01:18:52] Facebook takes you down, right?
[01:18:53] >> Nope, there's not. There's not a phone
[01:18:54] number. There's nothing. You have to go
[01:18:56] through the appeals process. And
[01:18:57] actually, they haven't even given me an
[01:18:58] appeal process to get it back. They just
[01:18:59] seized it. Took it from me.
[01:19:00] >> I sat across from Mark Zuckerberg at the
[01:19:03] presidential inauguration. Uh were you
[01:19:05] there? Were you invited?
[01:19:06] >> No, I was not.
[01:19:07] >> Okay. He was. So, just for the record.
[01:19:09] >> Interesting.
[01:19:10] >> Um I can tell you why. Why I can tell
[01:19:12] you why I think is because um a majority
[01:19:16] of the J6 Facebook profiles were
[01:19:18] surrendered voluntarily. They didn't
[01:19:21] even have to get a warrant on a majority
[01:19:23] of them. Now, there were warrants that
[01:19:24] were issued, some of them actually came
[01:19:26] later, but the things that people post
[01:19:30] that are now public information, uh
[01:19:32] three-letter agencies can take that and
[01:19:34] they can do compression files on it. And
[01:19:36] that's how they were like labeling
[01:19:37] people and rounding people up um with
[01:19:42] you know the you like people have no
[01:19:44] idea what they're agreeing to when they
[01:19:47] you know click that box like they just
[01:19:48] want the Facebook account. They want to
[01:19:50] be able to connect to you know Chad from
[01:19:51] Billings Montana they went to high
[01:19:53] school with but they don't see the
[01:19:55] danger that's behind what they're
[01:19:57] actually agreeing to that is perfectly
[01:20:00] legal because it's a private company.
[01:20:02] And that's that's part of the issue.
[01:20:04] That's some some of the things that I
[01:20:05] want to change when I get there. Not
[01:20:06] just like there's a lot of stuff about
[01:20:08] my district that I like to cover. But,
[01:20:10] you know, there's there's a lot of
[01:20:11] protections that Americans voluntarily
[01:20:13] give up that they should be made aware
[01:20:14] of. Like, it should literally be a
[01:20:15] checkbox that says, "Do you are you
[01:20:17] aware that any photo that you post on
[01:20:19] here is compiled into an AI drive to
[01:20:22] help identify you?"
[01:20:25] That's something that should be talked
[01:20:26] about. It's very clearly in a long, you
[01:20:30] know, summation of wording. you're
[01:20:32] agreeing to that and it's there and it's
[01:20:34] real and this is a very clear and
[01:20:36] present danger you know like AI is a big
[01:20:38] concern of mine because one we have to
[01:20:41] stay out ahead of China I think this so
[01:20:43] in our in in my district this is a big
[01:20:45] issue because we're we're getting AI
[01:20:46] centers we're getting data centers we're
[01:20:48] you know we're very concerned about how
[01:20:50] we're going to keep water in our
[01:20:52] districts
[01:20:53] >> but say do you have the water for that
[01:20:54] >> so um we we have the water but for how
[01:21:00] long you know when when they come Man,
[01:21:02] are we looking at 20 years? Are we
[01:21:03] looking at 30 years? My, you know, I I
[01:21:05] have proposals that I would like to see
[01:21:07] that are, you know, we have flare gas in
[01:21:09] West Texas. It's a way burnoff gas.
[01:21:11] >> Y
[01:21:12] >> atmospheric water generators would be
[01:21:14] perfect to put on there. We could offset
[01:21:15] and let them use it. Closed loop
[01:21:17] systems, I think, are going to be mostly
[01:21:19] beneficial, but they cost they take a
[01:21:21] lot of energy and how are we supposed to
[01:21:23] keep, you know, the we have to stay
[01:21:25] ahead of China. We have to stay ahead of
[01:21:26] Russia.
[01:21:27] >> So, are these not to get in the weeds,
[01:21:28] but are these centers going to be run on
[01:21:30] flare gas? Is that the idea?
[01:21:31] >> I that's that's what I would like to
[01:21:33] see. I would like to uh so I would like
[01:21:36] to get on several committees like the a
[01:21:38] board energy sector and because I
[01:21:40] believe that we can do this but at what
[01:21:44] cost? I mean we're already $40 trillion
[01:21:46] in debt. We just spent like what another
[01:21:48] $800 million like yesterday or day
[01:21:49] before.
[01:21:50] >> So is the district being asked to pay
[01:21:51] for some of this stuff?
[01:21:52] >> I I think that um just like anything
[01:21:55] else, you know, they say this is not
[01:21:57] going to hurt you. you know, this is not
[01:21:58] going to affect your, you know, your
[01:21:59] electric bill. And then what do we see
[01:22:01] three years down the road when the
[01:22:02] funding runs out? You know, it comes
[01:22:03] from us. Then tax rates go up and we see
[01:22:06] >> why would citizens fund private
[01:22:07] businesses, whether it's a sports
[01:22:09] stadium or a data center. I don't
[01:22:11] understand like what
[01:22:13] >> Yeah. And you know, and but you see this
[01:22:15] all the time where we we get promised
[01:22:18] something to say like wind turbines.
[01:22:20] They said that it was going to be like
[01:22:21] one of the greatest. I built them. I
[01:22:22] built hundreds of these things.
[01:22:26] They're not ever going to pay for
[01:22:28] themselves, you know. And this doesn't
[01:22:30] Have you told Ben Shapiro? Because this
[01:22:32] doesn't sound like the free market to me
[01:22:34] at all,
[01:22:35] >> man. Maybe I should. You think he'd
[01:22:37] listen?
[01:22:38] >> No, I don't think he's on your I don't
[01:22:40] think he's on your side, Ryan. But, you
[01:22:42] know, you just hear these people, the
[01:22:44] free market, capitalism. I'm in favor of
[01:22:47] it. When When do we get that? Because
[01:22:49] this doesn't it seems like the opposite.
[01:22:52] seems like crushing the middle class to
[01:22:56] help like a tiny percentage of the of
[01:22:58] the population get richer than anyone's
[01:22:59] ever been
[01:23:00] >> and then blame it on the rich.
[01:23:01] >> Yeah.
[01:23:01] >> Doesn't seem like capitalism to me. But
[01:23:03] um
[01:23:05] who are you running against?
[01:23:07] >> So I'm I'm running against um eight. So
[01:23:10] there's eight people total in the race
[01:23:12] >> in the primary.
[01:23:14] >> Uh yes. So uh well there's seven in the
[01:23:17] Republican and then one in the Democrat
[01:23:19] seat. I'm assuming West Texas is still
[01:23:22] decided in the primary, correct?
[01:23:24] >> Um, yeah. So, it's who whoever gets this
[01:23:28] seat, you're in pretty much,
[01:23:30] >> right? The Republican winner of the
[01:23:32] Republican primary will be the next
[01:23:33] member of Congress.
[01:23:34] >> Yeah. We're I think we're 20 plus 25
[01:23:36] plus. That's my point. Okay. So, um, of
[01:23:39] the seven,
[01:23:40] >> the six you're running against, who are
[01:23:42] they? Do you have a shot?
[01:23:44] >> Um, I I do believe that I have a shot. I
[01:23:47] think that I have the experience. I
[01:23:48] think that uh you know once people see
[01:23:50] the the the full you know story of of JX
[01:23:54] plus you know there I I think I think so
[01:23:57] so uh one of the people that we have is
[01:23:59] Tom Cell um he is a lobbyist he's worked
[01:24:04] in you know he's worked in a for a long
[01:24:07] time but for both sides and not all of
[01:24:11] the things that he's worked on do I feel
[01:24:13] really have the relevancy to quantify
[01:24:16] experience. I think that he was there
[01:24:17] with Larry Comist whenever he was um a
[01:24:21] congressman for our district, the first
[01:24:23] uh Republican congressman when we
[01:24:25] flipped and have been a Republican ever
[01:24:26] since. But um I'm not really keen on 76%
[01:24:32] of the farm bill going to SNAP benefits.
[01:24:34] I think it's a waste of money. You know,
[01:24:36] there there there's a lot of things
[01:24:37] about the farm bill that need to be
[01:24:39] changed. I mean, our the farmers in our
[01:24:41] area, well, not just here, but all
[01:24:43] across the United States. But this is
[01:24:44] this is the district that I love, that I
[01:24:46] call home, is we have some of the
[01:24:48] highest input costs that we've ever
[01:24:50] seen, ever. And we need a farm bill that
[01:24:53] stops putting a band-aid on on funding.
[01:24:55] I mean, we we have a slew of things. I I
[01:24:58] think one of the most important issues
[01:25:00] that's been neglected, not only in the
[01:25:01] first farm bill that he helped write,
[01:25:04] um, is insurance. We we're at a giant
[01:25:07] insurance war and
[01:25:10] also in funding like it is very very
[01:25:13] hard to get a lending with the interest
[01:25:15] rates with the amount of money that that
[01:25:17] goes down. Not to mention if you're
[01:25:18] trying to buy a new tractor, I don't
[01:25:20] know if you've looked at the price of
[01:25:21] some of those lately, it's astonishing
[01:25:23] how much it's costing us. And then at
[01:25:25] the same time, you know, we have um
[01:25:29] grifters that are coming in across the
[01:25:31] district that make these rockous claims
[01:25:33] about they've generated millions of
[01:25:36] votes for Donald Trump with an
[01:25:38] organization for, you know, like Abraham
[01:25:41] Enriquez.
[01:25:42] And I've seen no relevant
[01:25:46] information outside of what his campaign
[01:25:48] puts out that he's raised millions of
[01:25:50] votes for Donald Trump. I haven't seen
[01:25:53] it. You know, I hear it from
[01:25:55] >> So these are you're talking about a
[01:25:56] candidate in the primary.
[01:25:58] >> Yes.
[01:25:58] >> So I don't know how you've been treated,
[01:26:01] but having watched other people make
[01:26:04] similar statements about the way our
[01:26:06] system works,
[01:26:07] >> think you're going to get attacked.
[01:26:09] That's just my guess. pretty been
[01:26:11] attacked for for five years now. But
[01:26:14] >> grounds
[01:26:15] >> um I've I had uh I've had death threats.
[01:26:17] We've had somebody come out to my house
[01:26:20] and place three targets, three shooting
[01:26:22] targets on my vehicles. One for me, one
[01:26:25] for my wife, and one for my daughter. Um
[01:26:27] I turned those over to the Hawkley
[01:26:29] County Sheriff's Office, and they took a
[01:26:32] report. There were no fingerprints.
[01:26:33] Nothing came out of it. Um you know, I I
[01:26:37] get attacked for being at J6. I get
[01:26:39] attacked for um my faith on a regular
[01:26:42] basis. Um there's, you know, little
[01:26:45] nefarious group of No, I'm not just
[01:26:47] going to say Democrats. I'm just going
[01:26:48] to say um you know, people that don't
[01:26:50] believe, you know, the spiritual warfare
[01:26:52] aspect of it. There's always that that
[01:26:54] attack. Um but the threats on my life
[01:26:56] and my family are the ones that, you
[01:26:58] know, it's it's uh it's something that I
[01:27:00] hope nobody has to experience, but I'm
[01:27:03] there, you know, already. You know, we
[01:27:05] we have guys in our race that are
[01:27:07] parading around, you know, after getting
[01:27:09] the government's endorsement with
[01:27:11] security in Jones County. Like, nobody
[01:27:14] wants to shoot anybody in Jones County.
[01:27:16] You know, this is a ve very small
[01:27:18] district that, you know, has lost, you
[01:27:19] know, two hospitals, which is another
[01:27:22] huge, you know, huge issue. And then we
[01:27:24] have, um, you know, just continuing like
[01:27:26] with who I'm running against. Jason
[01:27:28] Corley, precinct 2 commissioner for
[01:27:29] Leach, Texas. Um, I like Jason. I think
[01:27:32] he's a great guy, honestly. I think uh I
[01:27:35] think he's got some experience and some
[01:27:37] knowledge that I think would benefit um
[01:27:40] across the district. Not to say that I
[01:27:41] don't have, you know, the same
[01:27:42] experience. I've been entirely focused
[01:27:45] on how Congress works for 5 years,
[01:27:48] trying to overcome laws that would not
[01:27:51] just benefit me, but 1,600 people. Um, I
[01:27:55] think there's um some things that he
[01:27:58] wants to do that are great for the
[01:27:59] district that I would be that I would
[01:28:00] love to be a part of. Um, too, but
[01:28:03] there's there's just some there's
[01:28:05] something uh missing and it's not, you
[01:28:08] know, like a like a a smash at him cuz I
[01:28:11] I think there's guys that have run for
[01:28:13] the right reason. And then uh you have
[01:28:15] Don May uh who's 80 years old. He's a uh
[01:28:19] I believe he's a neurosurgeon if I if I
[01:28:21] remember correctly. has a, you know,
[01:28:23] decorated veteran. Uh, you know, he's a
[01:28:25] he's a he's a wonderful man. Do we
[01:28:28] really want to put up, you know, look at
[01:28:31] Mitch McConnell this week, like where
[01:28:33] are we where are we at across the line
[01:28:36] of where how old is is too old? Like he
[01:28:39] he seems pretty chipper, but some of the
[01:28:41] things that he says, I I think it's more
[01:28:44] of a fantasy than a reality of what
[01:28:45] you're actually going to get to
[01:28:47] committing.
[01:28:47] >> Well, a dying country has dying leaders.
[01:28:49] So, it's a bad it's just a bad trend, I
[01:28:52] would say.
[01:28:52] >> And and I I think there's some I think
[01:28:55] there's some dissonance to that because
[01:28:57] what can you actually get accomplished
[01:28:58] right now? I mean, we have everything
[01:29:00] that we need to restore this country
[01:29:02] right now and we still aren't getting
[01:29:03] the votes.
[01:29:04] >> Yeah. And you're not getting anything
[01:29:05] done at all and it's getting worse, of
[01:29:07] course, and it's just a complete
[01:29:08] betrayal. I think that's fair to say.
[01:29:10] But the question is why? And the answer
[01:29:13] from what I can tell, maybe you
[01:29:15] disagree, is that the machine is so
[01:29:18] strong that it takes an extraordinary
[01:29:20] person to stand in its way.
[01:29:22] >> It does. And but I think that we could
[01:29:24] do that though and see and take some
[01:29:26] extraordinary people.
[01:29:27] >> I mean I mean look at look at what the
[01:29:28] squad did to Congress. Like look look at
[01:29:31] how they were able to manipulate Nancy
[01:29:33] Pelosi into a corner.
[01:29:35] >> They're in their they're in their own
[01:29:36] way. Extraordinary people. I mean that's
[01:29:37] just a fact. I disagree with them of
[01:29:39] course and I
[01:29:39] >> absolutely me too. I I think they're a
[01:29:43] talented and b, you know, pretty good at
[01:29:47] pretty brave really. They stood against
[01:29:49] a lot of things that their leadership
[01:29:51] wanted. And um I don't know. I I would I
[01:29:55] I I don't want them in charge of
[01:29:57] anything. I They put me in prison
[01:29:58] immediately if they ever took power.
[01:30:00] However,
[01:30:01] >> I think their success within their own
[01:30:04] conference is a model to Republicans.
[01:30:07] like don't go along with what Mitch
[01:30:09] McConnell wants and Mike Johnson
[01:30:13] >> or just weak, ineffective. That's
[01:30:16] >> sinister, too. I mean, let's be honest,
[01:30:18] they're sinister. Like, what is this?
[01:30:19] >> The biggest thing that I see that is is
[01:30:22] like holding Americans back is that we
[01:30:24] have to get control of our of our
[01:30:26] spending. are, you know, our our budget
[01:30:28] is designed to protect America, benefit
[01:30:31] the American citizens, and then we get
[01:30:33] into foreign policy about, you know,
[01:30:36] like where typically our money has gone,
[01:30:39] it leaves our country, and I have a huge
[01:30:42] issue with that, you know, and some and
[01:30:45] some some of the other candidates, they
[01:30:46] don't they don't have an issue with
[01:30:48] that. I'm America first. I believe if it
[01:30:51] doesn't benefit Americans, then we
[01:30:52] shouldn't be doing it. And I don't care
[01:30:54] what country it is. we there's no reason
[01:30:56] for us to be sending billions and
[01:30:58] billions of dollars one to research you
[01:31:00] know transgender frogs in South America
[01:31:02] like what you know any of these other
[01:31:04] crazy things that have come out with
[01:31:06] Doge and we should not only be allowing
[01:31:09] Doge to continue but we should be way
[01:31:13] more actively involved in where our
[01:31:15] spending goes I think that Americans
[01:31:16] have the right to say no
[01:31:18] >> of course of course they do no and yeah
[01:31:22] and I do think at this point when you
[01:31:24] find out that like everyone at DOJ has
[01:31:26] been sitting on the Epstein files for 15
[01:31:28] years and they knew they're complicit in
[01:31:31] it. And so at this point, the government
[01:31:33] has very little legitimacy left. I would
[01:31:35] say I don't feel that they're
[01:31:36] legitimate. And
[01:31:38] >> I just I just think that there's no
[01:31:39] transparency at all.
[01:31:41] >> I I just think that we're being
[01:31:42] completely lied to.
[01:31:43] >> Well, right.
[01:31:44] >> And you have to navigate that. You have
[01:31:46] to have the experience of going through
[01:31:48] something like I did, to see the
[01:31:50] wording, to see the writing on the wall
[01:31:52] and not donate money to the other side
[01:31:55] for this cause or stand firm in the gap
[01:31:59] for where you are because we we're never
[01:32:01] going to get anywhere if we don't fix
[01:32:03] it. Like I I really feel, you know,
[01:32:04] we're coming up on 250 years here, July
[01:32:08] 4th.
[01:32:10] What are we going to leave behind for
[01:32:12] our children?
[01:32:13] >> I agree. It takes bravery. That's That's
[01:32:16] what it takes. Uh and you've displayed
[01:32:18] it. So, last question is since you're
[01:32:20] not on Facebook.
[01:32:22] >> Well, I have one. I just don't have a
[01:32:23] congressional page.
[01:32:24] >> How do people learn about your campaign?
[01:32:27] >> How do they send you money?
[01:32:29] >> Um I just want to say that if every
[01:32:31] viewer that watched this sent me $5, we
[01:32:33] could keep the district in its entirety
[01:32:37] in Republican control. I I think that
[01:32:39] that would be more than enough. But I
[01:32:42] only take money from people that believe
[01:32:43] in me. I don't want to take money from
[01:32:46] packs. You know, everybody says, you
[01:32:48] know, yeah, well, they'll give you all
[01:32:50] this. I I want business owners, I want
[01:32:54] true patriots, Americans who are sick of
[01:32:57] the system that we live in to get behind
[01:33:00] me. I don't want to see
[01:33:03] if you think that I'm going to bow down
[01:33:05] to a cause like with Major Farm or
[01:33:08] something like that that would get me to
[01:33:10] vote a certain way that dishonors the
[01:33:13] people of my district or dishonors the
[01:33:17] way that I would live my Christian life,
[01:33:19] I don't want your money. But if you want
[01:33:22] to be one of the people that believes in
[01:33:24] me, that stands up for American values,
[01:33:27] that stands up for uh a country that was
[01:33:30] founded on biblical principles, you can
[01:33:32] go and you can find everything about my
[01:33:35] campaign and about me at ryzink.vote.
[01:33:38] That's r y an ik.vote.
[01:33:41] I'm uh on x at ryanz for congress. Uh
[01:33:46] that's the the tag handle. And then Ryan
[01:33:48] zinc is u my Facebook. And then I also I
[01:33:51] have a Tik Tok, but I use that more of a
[01:33:53] uh a platform for my Bible studies. If I
[01:33:57] feel led to move, you know, something to
[01:33:59] get a message out on there, I I put that
[01:34:01] on Tik Tok. And that's just Ryan Z Ryan
[01:34:04] Zinc for Congress on there.
[01:34:06] >> I appreciate you taking all this time
[01:34:08] and coming out here for this.
[01:34:09] >> Man, I I appreciate you putting uh some
[01:34:12] interest in District 19. We It's It's
[01:34:16] very hard to
[01:34:18] um be in our area and get recognition,
[01:34:21] get exposure to like the needs of our of
[01:34:24] our community.
[01:34:24] >> Oh, I bet.
[01:34:25] >> Uh just for where we are. I I feel like
[01:34:27] sometimes we as big as we are, like it's
[01:34:30] a large district. It's over 30,000
[01:34:32] square miles, you know, we we've got,
[01:34:34] you know, 750,000
[01:34:37] peopleish somewhere around there. Uh
[01:34:40] it's it's a big district and you know
[01:34:43] it's it's food, it's fuel, it's fiber,
[01:34:46] but more importantly it's it's faith,
[01:34:48] it's family and it's freedom is what
[01:34:50] grows in our district and that's where I
[01:34:53] call home and I love it and I really
[01:34:55] appreciate the opportunity to come in
[01:34:56] and tell my story.
[01:34:57] >> Amen. Ryan Zinc, thank you very much.
[01:35:00] >> Thank you.
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