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[00:00:00] All right, you guys. Welcome back to
[00:00:02] season 9, episode two of Everybody
[00:00:05] Grieavves Differently. I'm your host.
[00:00:07] That's what we're told, at least. You
[00:00:09] know, in retrospect, we should have
[00:00:10] probably saw that for what it was.
[00:00:13] Recognize that expression for what it
[00:00:14] was. Another well financed PR campaign
[00:00:17] against people for asking meaningful
[00:00:20] questions, shaming people. Now, you
[00:00:22] might be surprised then to learn who
[00:00:25] actually uttered that expression first
[00:00:27] over at Turning Point USA before
[00:00:29] Charlie's memorial in a corporatewide
[00:00:31] phone call which took place or Zoom call
[00:00:34] rather just 5 and a half days after
[00:00:36] Charlie's assassination. And speaking of
[00:00:38] different ways to grieve, the now former
[00:00:40] CEO of Daily Wire, Jeremy Boring, is
[00:00:42] back trying to make a comeback to
[00:00:44] proclaim his name in the press after he
[00:00:46] ran the company into the ground with his
[00:00:49] petty grievances and personal passion
[00:00:51] projects. And like everyone in the
[00:00:53] mainstream media, he appears to be
[00:00:54] auditioning for a role at Apac in the
[00:00:57] very tried andrue manner of publicly
[00:00:59] attacking Tucker Carlson and yours
[00:01:03] truly, correlating us to Antifa thugs.
[00:01:06] and also this show to pornography.
[00:01:09] Anyway, welcome back to Candace.
[00:01:16] [music]
[00:01:26] All right, you guys. First and foremost,
[00:01:28] a major correction from yesterday. Thank
[00:01:30] you to people in Iowa for messaging me.
[00:01:32] We made a mistake and showed you a
[00:01:34] picture of a man that is actually not
[00:01:36] named Bob Flood at all. His name was
[00:01:38] actually Bob Fergus Ferguson. He's from
[00:01:40] Iowa. He has nothing to do with the
[00:01:42] story. It was genuinely a full-blown
[00:01:44] mistake. I've actually reached out to
[00:01:45] him, and I just deeply apologize. We
[00:01:48] wiped it from uh the episode, but many
[00:01:51] of you saw it before we actually did.
[00:01:53] So, I just wanted to clarify that that
[00:01:55] picture that we showed yesterday of Bob
[00:01:57] Flood from Chicago was not Bob Flood
[00:02:00] from Chicago. It was a man named Bob
[00:02:02] Ferguson from Iowa who literally had
[00:02:05] nothing to do with anything. So, my
[00:02:06] apologies to Bob Ferguson. Hopefully, uh
[00:02:08] we will get in touch. I'm kind of using
[00:02:10] some back channels to make that happen.
[00:02:12] Anyway, back to today. They say
[00:02:15] hindsight is 2020, right? That's the
[00:02:17] expression. Hindsight is 2020. And damn
[00:02:19] if we are not realizing that right now.
[00:02:22] I can say with full confidence after
[00:02:24] combining what we have learned
[00:02:27] throughout this investigation to be a
[00:02:28] fact. And after now speaking with
[00:02:30] employees who were let go in this recent
[00:02:32] string of aggressive firings, employees
[00:02:34] that did nothing or were told weren't
[00:02:37] told that they did anything. They
[00:02:38] certainly were not the people that were
[00:02:39] leaking to me. that I do believe firmly
[00:02:42] from the beginning that Erica was
[00:02:44] intimately involved in the PR messaging
[00:02:47] and the PR campaign at different times
[00:02:51] against me, sometimes against the entire
[00:02:54] world, but against me in particular.
[00:02:56] Just to recap why this is now suddenly
[00:02:58] important, no one's picking on her. Uh
[00:03:01] we have confirmed for a fact that she
[00:03:04] lied. She liked my face actually
[00:03:06] regarding the Superman neck. She blamed
[00:03:09] that on Andrew Kovette. said that he
[00:03:10] went rogue, that Dr. Lee Troder also
[00:03:13] went rogue, violated HIPPA, that they
[00:03:16] hopped on the phone and did this uh
[00:03:18] without her consent or knowledge. Then
[00:03:20] on top of that, Andrew then sends out a
[00:03:22] tweet, I'm I told you, confirmed she
[00:03:24] doctor did not violate HIPPA. It was
[00:03:26] actually a three-way call. And the
[00:03:29] statement pertaining to Superman neck
[00:03:31] came from her. Andrew Kovette in that
[00:03:34] regard was doing Erica's bidding. He was
[00:03:36] taking a figurative bullet for her. She
[00:03:39] did not misspeak there. There's no way
[00:03:40] to look around it. She lied. She lied
[00:03:42] right to my face when she said that. She
[00:03:44] knew uh that HIPPA, he didn't violate
[00:03:47] HIPPA. She lied to a doctor, a surgeon,
[00:03:49] and she knew that she was on that call.
[00:03:52] So, let's just say that clearly. We've
[00:03:55] also now confirmed that she was at the
[00:03:58] Hampton's retreat, the now infamous
[00:04:01] Hampton's retreat. He she was present
[00:04:02] when BB Netanyahu called. And that
[00:04:06] bothers me because I was out here
[00:04:08] catching a lot of heat for telling the
[00:04:11] truth. Now, we have two different
[00:04:13] versions of that story. Andrew Kulvette
[00:04:15] said that BB offered to fund Turning
[00:04:18] Point to the next level. I have since
[00:04:20] confirmed what Andrew Kovette said with
[00:04:22] two people that are not related to
[00:04:24] Andrew Kovet at all. Erica, despite
[00:04:26] being at that dinner and confirming that
[00:04:27] she was there, does not remember that
[00:04:29] part. She says that there was not an
[00:04:31] offer that was made and that BB was
[00:04:32] calling about the letter that Charlie
[00:04:35] wrote him back in May. Andrew uh
[00:04:40] confirmed to me that Charlie described
[00:04:42] that summit as like an intervention was
[00:04:46] being staged over Israel. So I find that
[00:04:50] to be interesting. again with everything
[00:04:52] that we now know. My assumption was she
[00:04:54] didn't weigh in weighed into things,
[00:04:56] didn't weigh into the water and didn't
[00:04:57] say anything about the debate that was
[00:04:59] happening because she was so overwhelmed
[00:05:02] and kind of catching her breath as a new
[00:05:04] CEO and chairman. I think now I have a
[00:05:07] different perspective on that. I'm not
[00:05:09] sure why she did not come out and say if
[00:05:13] she was capable of doing calls and
[00:05:15] sitting down and doing meetings come out
[00:05:16] and say like yes, this this Hampton
[00:05:18] summit did happen. Yes, BBB did call and
[00:05:20] try to work through with Andrew why they
[00:05:22] have different memories of whether or
[00:05:25] not he called to fund things to the next
[00:05:27] level. We have also confirmed that Erica
[00:05:29] and Andrew were working together on that
[00:05:31] Fort Wuka PR response. We was craziest
[00:05:34] tax I've ever endured. Uh Alex Jones
[00:05:37] [laughter]
[00:05:38] quite entertainingly is coming for me my
[00:05:41] whole life everything. But that PR
[00:05:43] response uh was confirmed that she was a
[00:05:46] part of that through this obscure
[00:05:48] YouTuber Paramount Tactical rather than
[00:05:50] going directly to me after we sat down.
[00:05:52] That to me seems like a pretty
[00:05:55] uh strong violation of a well-meaning
[00:05:59] conversation that I had with her for 4
[00:06:00] hours. And I should also mention that
[00:06:01] that was the same you YouTuber despite,
[00:06:04] you know, also going into Mitch's entire
[00:06:06] past, Mitch Know's past.
[00:06:09] But after calling for a ceasefire and
[00:06:10] saying, "Let us sit down and talk," they
[00:06:12] welcomed Paramount Tactical onto Charlie
[00:06:14] Kirk's podcast show while I was in this
[00:06:16] hotel room to debunk me. I had no idea
[00:06:19] it was happening. And then that's I
[00:06:22] think was the beginning of when it
[00:06:24] clicked to me seeing that him being
[00:06:27] caught live, Andrew Kobat live messaging
[00:06:29] something from Erica after she told me
[00:06:31] that they were disappointed in Andrew,
[00:06:33] that he wasn't going to be involved in
[00:06:34] PR anymore. That's when I realized that
[00:06:37] I was being lied to, that she was making
[00:06:39] moves behind the scenes. And the answer
[00:06:41] that we will likely never get to add one
[00:06:44] more point here is whether Andrew was
[00:06:46] lying
[00:06:48] uh or Erica was confused. And I would
[00:06:50] like to say that I don't believe Andrew
[00:06:52] was lying. I believe Andrew was telling
[00:06:54] me the truth when he said that when he
[00:06:55] stepped off of the plane in Probo on
[00:06:57] September 10th, he basically collapsed
[00:07:01] into Erica's arms crying on the tarmac
[00:07:04] because he had all this pent up emotion,
[00:07:06] had this big plane. Everyone was
[00:07:07] messaging him about Charlie asking for
[00:07:09] his status. He didn't know what was
[00:07:10] going on. And the impression that I got
[00:07:12] was that Andrew was on that plane alone.
[00:07:14] But then we were later told that Andrew
[00:07:16] was accompanied by his wife. But Erica,
[00:07:18] during our face-toface meeting, had no
[00:07:20] recollection of his wife stepping off of
[00:07:22] the plane. When I asked, I said, "Was he
[00:07:23] with his wife?" She was unable to answer
[00:07:25] that question as to whether or not
[00:07:27] Andrew flew in with his wife to Provo.
[00:07:30] How is that possible? Is Andrew lying
[00:07:32] about that? Or is is Erica
[00:07:34] misremembering?
[00:07:35] What we know thereafter is that when
[00:07:38] they arrived at the hospital after
[00:07:40] waiting for an hour, if Andrew was to
[00:07:42] believed, then she waited for an hour on
[00:07:43] the tarmac for Andrew's flight to land.
[00:07:46] They arrived at the hospital and went in
[00:07:49] through separate entrances. Uh, Andrew
[00:07:52] went through the front main entrance, a
[00:07:54] main entrance where there were other
[00:07:55] TPUSA staff there, people that were
[00:07:58] there on that day, and Erica went in
[00:07:59] through a back or side entrance. These
[00:08:01] are the facts, okay? If they disturb
[00:08:03] you, then you should know that you are
[00:08:05] not alone. The world obviously melted
[00:08:08] down yesterday when we played the
[00:08:09] corporatewide call hosted by Erica to
[00:08:12] Turning Point employees following the
[00:08:13] memorial event. The overwhelming
[00:08:15] consensus, the human response to that is
[00:08:18] that you feel disturbed when you listen
[00:08:19] to it, spiritually disturbed by the
[00:08:22] emotion of it, the happiness. Uh,
[00:08:24] speaking about merchandise being sold,
[00:08:26] hats being sold. Again, this is not a
[00:08:28] sales call. This is the entire team on
[00:08:31] the phone. This new corporatewide call
[00:08:35] that I'm going to share with you today
[00:08:38] took place even earlier so that you can
[00:08:41] go back into your time machines. It took
[00:08:43] place just 5 and a half days after
[00:08:45] Charlie was pronounced dead. 5 and a
[00:08:47] half days later. The date is September
[00:08:49] 16th. This is when Turning Point USA
[00:08:52] employees are told that Erica is going
[00:08:55] to be replacing Charlie as the CEO and
[00:08:57] chairman. The public is going to be
[00:09:00] informed a day later on September 17th
[00:09:02] in a public letter signed off by uh Doug
[00:09:05] Degrroot is on the board. And I should
[00:09:08] be clear that when Doug Degrroot going
[00:09:10] backward and looking at the
[00:09:12] announcement, he makes it very biblical,
[00:09:16] very biblical, which is a common theme
[00:09:18] here. Everything is is it's about this
[00:09:20] is what God has ordained. Here is the
[00:09:22] letter. Just going to read the top here.
[00:09:24] It reads in Ecclesiastes, King Solomon
[00:09:26] wrote that mankind is to be tested by
[00:09:29] God. Today we are facing such a test.
[00:09:31] Yet, we also know that God has prepared
[00:09:34] us with everything that we need to
[00:09:36] overcome this ordeal. It was the honor
[00:09:38] of our lives to serve as board members
[00:09:40] of Charlie's side. Charlie prepared all
[00:09:42] of us for a moment like this one. He
[00:09:44] worked tirelessly to ensure Turning
[00:09:46] Point USA was built to survive even the
[00:09:48] greatest tests. And now, it is our great
[00:09:50] pride to announce Erica Kirk as the new
[00:09:52] CEO and chair of the board for Turning
[00:09:54] Point USA. Okay? So, I want you to
[00:09:56] remember that. It's it like going I
[00:09:58] don't even remember that letter at all.
[00:09:59] So, that's why I'm showing it to you.
[00:10:01] It's King Solomon and it's, you know,
[00:10:04] this is what God wants. Okay.
[00:10:07] Now, this decision, like I said,
[00:10:09] published on the 17th, was actually
[00:10:11] voted upon earlier. I know because
[00:10:13] Andrew Kovette told me before the public
[00:10:15] knew that the board had selected Erica
[00:10:16] with within about 72 hours of Charlie's
[00:10:19] death. I was crying on the phone with
[00:10:20] him, already concerned by the obvious
[00:10:22] attempt from people who hated Charlie
[00:10:24] previously, now committing themselves
[00:10:26] publicly to taking over his legacy,
[00:10:28] filling in his boots, picking up his
[00:10:30] bloody mic. And Andrew reassured me that
[00:10:32] the decision had already been made and
[00:10:34] that it was Erica
[00:10:36] that was going to take over. And in my
[00:10:38] agreed state, I said, "Okay, great.
[00:10:41] Amazing. Thank God. I'm so happy to hear
[00:10:42] that. So, I'm so happy that none of
[00:10:45] these people who literally hated him are
[00:10:50] are going to try to sit in his chair.
[00:10:53] Now, in hindsight, practically speaking,
[00:10:55] this means that within a space of about
[00:10:56] 72 hours, someone approached Erica and
[00:10:59] thought that the right thing to ask or
[00:11:02] say
[00:11:04] was, "Hey, know you're going through a
[00:11:06] lot right now, but is it okay if we put
[00:11:08] your name up for the position of CEO,
[00:11:10] and can we put that to a board vote
[00:11:13] today? Are you willing and able to take
[00:11:15] over as the chairman and the CEO um in
[00:11:19] Charliestead?" to which Erica had to
[00:11:21] have replied yes. She had to give her
[00:11:22] consent for that to go up for a board
[00:11:23] vote. Okay, that's just a fact that had
[00:11:26] to take place. How it happened, exactly
[00:11:28] when it was said, somebody felt that was
[00:11:30] appropriate to say that. Now, my first
[00:11:32] 72 hours was a little bit different. On
[00:11:34] my end, when Mitchell, my my PR agent,
[00:11:38] sent me a very kind message about the
[00:11:40] infinite press requests that we had been
[00:11:42] receiving, people seeking a statement
[00:11:43] for me regarding how I felt about
[00:11:45] Charlie's public assassination. I wanted
[00:11:47] to physically assault him. He did
[00:11:49] nothing wrong. He actually did his job
[00:11:51] with the utmost professionalism and
[00:11:53] care. And still, I kind of wanted to
[00:11:55] kick Mitchell. I'm sorry, Mitchell.
[00:11:56] That's how I felt at that time because
[00:11:58] everything just felt so intrusive. Like
[00:12:00] to even think about the world going on
[00:12:02] felt wrong.
[00:12:05] I didn't think anything of her
[00:12:07] appointment at that time or beyond it
[00:12:08] other than what I stated publicly, which
[00:12:10] was that Turning Point USA should have
[00:12:12] waited and instead appointed an interim
[00:12:15] CEO to allow Erica the time that she
[00:12:18] needed to grief rather than her having
[00:12:20] to deal with everyone questioning her
[00:12:22] moves as a CEO. But I also contended
[00:12:25] with myself. I will say I also thought
[00:12:28] well maybe they rushed the decision
[00:12:30] because it was symbolic and they felt it
[00:12:31] was necessary that it was sort of
[00:12:33] honorific meaning she wasn't really
[00:12:35] going to do anything at that time but
[00:12:37] they wanted to announce that this is the
[00:12:38] direction that it's going which would be
[00:12:40] fair like just wanting the the
[00:12:43] announcement to mean something and on
[00:12:46] her end I thought maybe Erica said yes
[00:12:48] because she wanted to hold on to some
[00:12:49] sense of continuity like this is still
[00:12:51] going to go on. We're going to get
[00:12:52] everything going. And that still could
[00:12:53] be true by the way. that could have been
[00:12:55] what drove her decision. But of course,
[00:12:58] looking in retrospect, it is stunning to
[00:13:02] me that Erica chose not to bring a
[00:13:05] single member of her actual family with
[00:13:08] her to Utah. Something that I just sort
[00:13:10] of missed at the time, just turning
[00:13:13] point family. Think about that. Charlie
[00:13:15] Kirk's mother, father, sister, they all
[00:13:17] raced to Utah to be with him at the
[00:13:20] hospital, which is to be expected. But
[00:13:23] Erica, no one in her immediate family
[00:13:25] joined her in her darkest hour. Not her
[00:13:28] mom. Okay, we were told that she was
[00:13:29] sick. Dad also lives in Scottsdale.
[00:13:32] Sister, yes, she does have one. Cousins,
[00:13:35] uh, friends from high school. After all,
[00:13:37] she grew up in Arizona, right? That's
[00:13:39] that's where she went to school. That's
[00:13:41] where she went to high school. Instead,
[00:13:44] she was joined by Stacy Sheridan, who
[00:13:48] was playing the part of her mother,
[00:13:50] staying Stacy, who is the head of
[00:13:53] fundraising for Turning Point USA. Don't
[00:13:55] forget, it was Stacy Sheridan who
[00:13:57] concerns herself with Turning Point
[00:13:59] raising money, who filmed Charlie in the
[00:14:02] casket. It is Stacy Sheridan, traveled
[00:14:04] with Erica. She's the one who was
[00:14:06] holding Erica uh um hand holding her
[00:14:10] hand as Charlie's casket was coming off
[00:14:13] of Air Force 2. That was Eric. That was
[00:14:14] Stacy Sheridan standing next to her
[00:14:16] recording. Not her mother, not her dad,
[00:14:18] not Erica's sister. Uh
[00:14:22] you just would think that's somebody
[00:14:24] that you would call somebody close to
[00:14:26] you that is does not exist any corporate
[00:14:28] structure to be by your side. That is my
[00:14:30] now totally rational perspective looking
[00:14:34] backward.
[00:14:35] But it was Stacy Sheridan who I have
[00:14:37] told her since day one. I personally
[00:14:38] warned Charlie about her. I that is my
[00:14:41] personal opinion that there is no rung
[00:14:44] into hell that Stacy Sheridan will not
[00:14:46] descend upon for a dollar. It's my my
[00:14:48] experience with her. But this person was
[00:14:52] somehow crucial crucial uh to
[00:14:56] coming and being beside beside Erica at
[00:14:59] all moments, car rides, everything. If
[00:15:01] you go back and look, it is Stacy. You
[00:15:03] would think Stacy Sheridan was Erica's
[00:15:05] mother. And you can even check out this
[00:15:07] clip um which is them her in a car.
[00:15:10] Stacy just everywhere on the phone.
[00:15:12] Stacy is there capturing every moment.
[00:15:16] Me I I needed my sister to fly in to be
[00:15:18] by my side. husband, my cousin,
[00:15:22] Erica needed the head of gifts and
[00:15:23] donations. I I don't I find that to be
[00:15:28] very strange and I've checked with
[00:15:29] people at the hospital. No, no family
[00:15:31] was there. Now, let's get back to
[00:15:35] September 16th, though, cuz I like to
[00:15:36] focus on that date because with Stacy in
[00:15:39] earshot, Erica is going to address the
[00:15:41] company for the first time. That's not a
[00:15:43] small task, by the way. Okay, she is, as
[00:15:45] you will see, at the office. She doesn't
[00:15:47] have full hair and makeup on, which of
[00:15:48] course I think I welcome that as a good
[00:15:51] thing. Uh I don't expect her to be at
[00:15:52] the office, but I'm happy that she's not
[00:15:54] in full hair and makeup because this is
[00:15:56] 5 and 1/2 days after her husband was
[00:15:58] pronounced dead. This is before he we've
[00:16:00] had his funeral, anything. And I'm gonna
[00:16:03] let you decide. And I'm going to tell
[00:16:05] you that the employees that chose to
[00:16:09] record this and the employees that are
[00:16:12] still there and upset with the manner in
[00:16:15] which people were fired are saying that
[00:16:19] they feel like they were it was like a
[00:16:20] cult. Like they knew something was off.
[00:16:23] They felt like they were being
[00:16:24] manipulated. uh that they were only
[00:16:29] given Erica as this symbol of you guys
[00:16:32] need to work harder, right? Uh as though
[00:16:35] Charlie's wife was being used to
[00:16:36] convince employees that it is now a
[00:16:38] mandate handed to them by God to work
[00:16:40] harder, to sacrifice themselves, to work
[00:16:43] longer days because this this is their
[00:16:45] new family. Like this this word I've
[00:16:48] always been struck by this describing
[00:16:49] the employees like a family to drive
[00:16:52] them to work like horses only to then
[00:16:54] fire them after a quarter billion is
[00:16:56] raised is wild. Okay, like I said, at
[00:17:00] least she is not dressed in hair and
[00:17:03] makeup. She is the office. I would say
[00:17:05] the bad news is that once again Erica is
[00:17:07] going to stop herself from using the
[00:17:09] word happy uh in the context of Charlie
[00:17:12] and how he must be feeling in h in
[00:17:14] heaven. I'm going to let this play out
[00:17:16] for 5 minutes straight and there is no
[00:17:18] context needed other than this is 5 and
[00:17:20] a half days after her husband was
[00:17:22] publicly assassinated. And yes, in the
[00:17:24] background that is Terrell Farnsworth,
[00:17:25] the guy who took down the cameras,
[00:17:28] but we're going to see we are going to
[00:17:30] see some grief. So, I'm going to allow
[00:17:33] you guys to watch this for 5 minutes.
[00:17:35] >> Had private conversations with him. I
[00:17:38] want you all to hold on to those and I
[00:17:41] want you all to remember those so
[00:17:43] deeply. I want you to journal about
[00:17:44] them. I want you to be able to tell your
[00:17:46] kids about them. Um, I want you to put
[00:17:50] those in your heart as why you're why
[00:17:52] you're still here with with the Turning
[00:17:54] Point USA family because that's what we
[00:17:56] want. And like I said to our small group
[00:17:59] after whatever day that was that I did
[00:18:02] the thing on TV, my days are so long
[00:18:04] Friday. Um, I told the team, I said,
[00:18:09] "Turning Point USA will continue like my
[00:18:12] husband always wanted and it'll be
[00:18:14] bigger than ever, and we're going to
[00:18:16] honor him by doing that. We're going to
[00:18:18] stay humble. Um, we're going to work
[00:18:20] hard because that's what he would want.
[00:18:24] And, uh, we're going to just make it
[00:18:26] grow and we're going to keep our eyes
[00:18:28] fixed on heaven." And you know, like
[00:18:32] even Stacy said, he's going to he's
[00:18:34] going to find ways to speak to us and
[00:18:38] he's going to speak to you in different
[00:18:39] ways. Every person's going to be
[00:18:40] different, but you'll get little moments
[00:18:42] where you're like, "Okay, Charlie, I see
[00:18:43] you." It might be here on campus. Uh it
[00:18:46] might be in quiet moments of the night,
[00:18:49] but he's here and he's more alive than
[00:18:52] ever, and he is um he's going to guide
[00:18:55] us. Um and we just have to remain
[00:18:58] humble. But again, what I told the team
[00:19:00] was,
[00:19:04] I will fight like hell to make sure that
[00:19:06] all of you have a job here.
[00:19:09] I don't want anyone to think the job's
[00:19:11] in jeopardy
[00:19:13] because your family. If you want to, if
[00:19:17] you choose to leave, that's different. I
[00:19:20] never will, and I promise you, I will
[00:19:22] make sure that I never allow a point to
[00:19:24] where you have to leave because we
[00:19:26] cannot financially afford you. Um and
[00:19:30] that is um that is a progress. I want
[00:19:33] our family to stay together
[00:19:36] um the best it can. Obviously
[00:19:38] circumstances you know things there's
[00:19:40] unforeseen things that might pop up here
[00:19:42] and there that we can't spare a sea in
[00:19:44] the future but for right now the way
[00:19:46] things are I would like to remain
[00:19:47] because they are status quo and I think
[00:19:48] that's the best thing to do u and
[00:19:51] everything else we can worry about
[00:19:52] later. But I just want to let you know
[00:19:53] that you guys are all very loved. I'm
[00:19:55] very proud of you and Charlie would be
[00:19:57] um
[00:19:58] I mean I think Charlie's just
[00:20:04] I'm trying not to say that he would be
[00:20:07] he's obviously celebrating in heaven uh
[00:20:10] amongst many things but he's so proud of
[00:20:12] all of you and he's so proud of all of
[00:20:14] you for keeping this mission alive and
[00:20:19] he knows that you can do it. That's why
[00:20:20] you're hired. And he knows that you will
[00:20:23] be able to carry the torch. And he knows
[00:20:26] that you're going to do a great job and
[00:20:28] you're going to be able to even though
[00:20:30] days are going to be tough. Honestly,
[00:20:32] the nights are the hardest. Mornings are
[00:20:35] pretty raw, too. But once you're But
[00:20:37] just what I've noticed these past
[00:20:39] several days is if I didn't have the
[00:20:42] feeling of turning point USA's family
[00:20:44] with me, all of you, I would be a
[00:20:47] disaster. I mean, I was in fetal
[00:20:48] position 247. But the fact that we have
[00:20:51] a continued mission to look forward to
[00:20:53] and we have our family, it's everything.
[00:20:57] And some of you, this is your chosen
[00:20:59] family. And um just rely lean on each
[00:21:03] other. That's huge. Leaning on each
[00:21:05] other is huge because all of you
[00:21:08] were together prior to this and we'll be
[00:21:10] together after this. And it's and we
[00:21:12] everything and I told Justin I as it's
[00:21:14] going to be something where everything
[00:21:16] before September 10th any email you were
[00:21:18] working on any project you were working
[00:21:20] on is it's not that it's irrelevant now
[00:21:23] it's just things have changed obviously
[00:21:26] um and the mission has gotten deeper and
[00:21:28] the mission will grow deeper but like I
[00:21:31] just want all of you to know we will be
[00:21:33] wise stewards we will be um vigilant we
[00:21:38] will be humble
[00:21:40] Um, and I just want you to know that
[00:21:43] again, I'm with you. I'm here. I'm not
[00:21:46] going anywhere. Um, and we're going to
[00:21:49] make sure that we honor my husband so
[00:21:52] well that this whole world knows what
[00:21:55] his his vision was and will be. And
[00:22:02] it's just I feel so blessed
[00:22:05] and honored
[00:22:11] Blessed and honored.
[00:22:13] That is crazy work as adjectives. I I I
[00:22:15] I I don't know. That's That's crazy
[00:22:18] work. That is like I couldn't blessed
[00:22:20] and honored to be the CEO and to be
[00:22:26] telling you guys that you're a family.
[00:22:27] And I want you to see this because we've
[00:22:28] spoken about this the Mooney's cult and
[00:22:31] these people that are leaving are like
[00:22:33] it's it it was just like a cult. Like
[00:22:34] basically she's saying this she's
[00:22:36] calling you a family. She promises them.
[00:22:38] That's why it's important to you have to
[00:22:39] hold this to the fire. You're not the
[00:22:41] CEO. You promised these kids that if you
[00:22:44] they are going to work harder. You're in
[00:22:46] this family. Your jobs are safe.
[00:22:48] Actually, that's what makes her cry.
[00:22:51] Saying your jobs are, you know, that's
[00:22:53] that's when she breaks, right? When she
[00:22:54] says, I just it's so important for know
[00:22:56] your jobs are good. Like I feel I feel
[00:23:00] emotionally attached to you guys working
[00:23:03] for me. And then you attach that to what
[00:23:06] we showed you of a young woman who like
[00:23:09] I said on everything. Never. I never
[00:23:12] leaked. She never leaked anything. She
[00:23:14] never spoke to me. Nothing. Gets fired
[00:23:16] and for asking a simple question like
[00:23:18] literally why am I fired? We've been
[00:23:20] working like 25 hours. Just get out. Get
[00:23:22] out. Get out. There's there's security
[00:23:25] there. That's it. We're moving in a
[00:23:26] different direction. That is not okay.
[00:23:28] Okay. You're not allowed to say
[00:23:29] everybody grieavves differently. So I
[00:23:30] don't have to answer any questions about
[00:23:32] that. And guys, um we're going to bring
[00:23:34] in the beginning, too, because I want
[00:23:35] you to watch the beginning of this so
[00:23:36] you can see the full thing because we
[00:23:37] don't need to strip anything. Um because
[00:23:39] she starts by laughing, which I find to
[00:23:41] be interesting, but I do want to let you
[00:23:44] know that we are having some buffering
[00:23:45] issues. We still have major blackouts uh
[00:23:47] in Nashville. So, we're doing our best
[00:23:49] here. If you have some connectivity
[00:23:51] issues, just know that that's the reason
[00:23:52] why. Here is the beginning of that call.
[00:23:54] >> Yep. There you go.
[00:23:55] >> Oh, look at all the thumbs up. Look how
[00:23:58] cute that is. Sorry, this is a little
[00:24:00] bit more informal than probably Charlie
[00:24:01] would be reacting. How sweet.
[00:24:04] >> I didn't know they could do that. I hate
[00:24:06] Zoom. I never like Zoom. Sorry you guys.
[00:24:09] Um I just wanted to say first and
[00:24:10] foremost um my heart obviously is broken
[00:24:14] for you guys as much it is for our
[00:24:16] family. You guys lost not only a boss
[00:24:18] but someone that you
[00:24:21] looked up to, someone that you uh
[00:24:24] believed in his mission that you also um
[00:24:29] that you loved. um you loved listening
[00:24:31] to his show,
[00:24:33] you loved um hearing his wisdom on
[00:24:35] things. I'm sure some of you have also
[00:24:37] had very personal moments of where you
[00:24:39] sat down and um
[00:24:43] so that's the beginning just so you have
[00:24:44] that in its full context. Now, like I
[00:24:47] said, this
[00:24:49] is something it's definitely something.
[00:24:51] It feels to me a bit like the
[00:24:52] psychological phenomenon known as trauma
[00:24:54] bonding, right? They had just suffered a
[00:24:56] very real trauma. That's not a trauma
[00:24:58] that most people go through in their
[00:24:59] entire lives. Um, you're
[00:25:02] signed up for a company. Charlie Kirk is
[00:25:05] the leader of that company. You sign up
[00:25:07] majority of these people to work for
[00:25:08] this organization because they believe
[00:25:10] in Charlie Kirk. They believe in what he
[00:25:11] is doing on college campuses. And then
[00:25:13] you watch him get live assassinated.
[00:25:16] And now management is going to try to
[00:25:19] establish your loyalty using all sorts
[00:25:22] of tactics. But essentially what they're
[00:25:23] creating here is an emotional
[00:25:25] dependence. Right? We are a family. We
[00:25:27] have lived through this. This is a
[00:25:28] family, family, family family. And that
[00:25:31] very well may not have been Erica's
[00:25:34] intent.
[00:25:35] But hearing her sound like she's about
[00:25:36] to cry when she discusses specifically
[00:25:38] them keeping their jobs, not Charlie,
[00:25:40] but having Charlie having been
[00:25:41] assassinated in front of the world, but
[00:25:43] the prospect of their employment, we do
[00:25:45] not have to imagine uh if she meant that
[00:25:48] sincerely because she didn't. She did
[00:25:49] not mean that sincerely. after working
[00:25:51] them all like horses, wrapping them in
[00:25:52] this way, she's going to fire a boatload
[00:25:54] of them without cause or even
[00:25:55] conversation. That's actually traumatic.
[00:25:58] See it from the employees viewpoint. For
[00:25:59] those of you wondering,
[00:26:02] they just must feel like they just got
[00:26:03] punched in the face.
[00:26:05] You had to watch him die. Then you get
[00:26:07] brought in on this emotional, we're a
[00:26:09] family, we're a family. Never. I never
[00:26:11] would do this. And it's like, get out.
[00:26:13] Don't let the door hit you on the way
[00:26:14] back. Yeah, we raised a quarter billion.
[00:26:15] You're not even going to get a bonus.
[00:26:18] Now, we're going to keep letting this
[00:26:19] play out because you are going to hear
[00:26:21] her actually be the first person uh to
[00:26:25] say an expression that has been used a
[00:26:28] lot. She's going to remind people that
[00:26:30] everybody grieavves differently 5 and a
[00:26:33] half days after Charlie was announced
[00:26:36] dead at the hospital. Take a listen.
[00:26:39] >> And we will um do our best to continue
[00:26:42] to make Turning Point USA the Oh, he
[00:26:44] meant that he wanted it to be this
[00:26:46] massive thing. Yeah, it is. It is. And
[00:26:48] that's why we have to stay humble. But,
[00:26:50] um, you know, I just want you guys to
[00:26:52] stay in prayer. And if if you guys do
[00:26:54] need anything, please reach out to
[00:26:55] whoever you know to reach out to. Um,
[00:26:58] and pray with one another. Be there with
[00:27:00] one another. Be soft with one another.
[00:27:02] Everyone grieavves differently. So, if
[00:27:03] someone's acting weird, don't read into
[00:27:05] that. Uh,
[00:27:08] weddings and funerals bring out the
[00:27:09] weirdest side in people. Just anyone
[00:27:12] who's been married knows that. Um, so
[00:27:14] don't read into that. just love on each
[00:27:16] other and if there's anything or anyone
[00:27:20] who tries to divide your team or you or
[00:27:23] that's just the enemy and just rebuke it
[00:27:26] and know that there's a bigger mission
[00:27:28] at hand and um again you guys are all
[00:27:31] very loved and I feel very honored and
[00:27:33] um I'm grateful for all of you. So I
[00:27:36] just wanted to take some time to hop on
[00:27:38] and share with you my condolences. Um I
[00:27:42] wish I could help all of you but again
[00:27:43] the fact that um there's a lot of in the
[00:27:46] office on today fact that a lot of you
[00:27:48] guys are here in office that's what he
[00:27:50] would like the mission he doesn't want
[00:27:52] you to just be sitting on the couch
[00:27:53] alone in your room he wants you to
[00:27:56] obviously I mean we will all mourn but
[00:27:58] he would want you to build and so that's
[00:28:01] what we'll do we'll have a sword in one
[00:28:02] hand and we'll have a healing to build
[00:28:05] okay I love you all and
[00:28:11] deep breaths. Uh, I just want to share
[00:28:13] this with you all. I asked her when we
[00:28:16] were on the tour.
[00:28:18] I said,
[00:28:20] I don't know how to get through this.
[00:28:26] And she said, you know, when you're on
[00:28:28] an airplane, and some of you have kids
[00:28:30] will really relate to this. Others that
[00:28:32] don't, you've been on a plane with kids,
[00:28:33] so you can also relate to this.
[00:28:36] She said, "When you're on an airplane
[00:28:38] and you're 15 minutes before landing
[00:28:41] and the kids are going crazy and you
[00:28:44] have 15 minutes left on the plane and
[00:28:46] they're throwing their toys and they're
[00:28:48] screaming and you're thinking to
[00:28:49] yourself, am I going to make it through
[00:28:51] these next 15 minutes?" And then the
[00:28:53] plane lands and Ursa said, "You're going
[00:28:56] to make it through those next 15
[00:28:57] minutes." And then there was 15 minutes.
[00:29:02] And so I just want to share that with
[00:29:03] you because it was a very private
[00:29:05] moment. Um, but it gave me
[00:29:09] it gave me some peace to know that we
[00:29:11] can just do this for 10 minutes at a
[00:29:13] time. So if that means at work when
[00:29:14] you're feeling a little bit, stop, take
[00:29:18] those 15 minutes and you'll be okay.
[00:29:20] We're all going to be okay.
[00:29:23] I love you guys. Um, have a great
[00:29:26] meeting. Is there anything else to say?
[00:29:29] It's good. You guys are loved.
[00:29:31] >> Love this little thing about Donald.
[00:29:33] [laughter]
[00:29:35] >> So sweet. God bless you all.
[00:29:37] >> Thank you guys.
[00:29:40] >> I mean, I don't really know what to say.
[00:29:41] I just I wanted to share that with you.
[00:29:42] I wanted to share that with you because
[00:29:44] I fully side with the employees um what
[00:29:48] they have lived through everything
[00:29:49] that's happened uh to have them admit
[00:29:51] that they work 20our days to see how
[00:29:53] they were manipulated into doing that
[00:29:54] and then having the carpet pulled under
[00:29:56] their feet and told goodbye and god
[00:30:00] forbid you want to speak out about what
[00:30:02] you've lived through then you're you're
[00:30:03] somehow like it's a cult that that's a
[00:30:05] cult to be clear that's just a cult.
[00:30:08] You're with us or you're against us. And
[00:30:09] these people were not against them. They
[00:30:12] were loyal employees. Okay, they were
[00:30:14] loyal employees and they said that they
[00:30:16] felt like they were being emotionally
[00:30:19] manipulated to think that they had to
[00:30:20] just work harder even beyond the 20our
[00:30:23] days they working during the weekday.
[00:30:24] They were then asked to come in on the
[00:30:26] weekend to pack t-shirts because it's
[00:30:29] what Charlie would want. And I kept
[00:30:31] picking up on that beyond these calls. I
[00:30:34] kept saying,"Wh does it feel like
[00:30:35] they're using the ghost of Charlie to
[00:30:38] sort of guilt people into doing things
[00:30:40] like this is what Charlie would want.
[00:30:41] He'd want your money. This is what
[00:30:42] Charlie would want. He would want your
[00:30:43] your kids' college fund. This is what
[00:30:45] Charlie would want. He wants grandma's
[00:30:47] will. This is what Charlie's uh dancing.
[00:30:49] He's dancing in heaven. He is I I'm not
[00:30:51] I don't want to say the word happy.
[00:30:54] Maybe he's not happy. He just got
[00:30:55] assassinated. Maybe he's not happy that
[00:30:57] he's never going to see his children
[00:30:59] again or put into bed, but he is dancing
[00:31:05] unhappily or something. What? What?
[00:31:09] Okay. Like I don't know what this is. I
[00:31:12] like I said fully side with the
[00:31:15] employees. I do believe with all of the
[00:31:18] new information that I am getting and it
[00:31:19] is a lot that she has been orchestrating
[00:31:22] this entire PR campaign from the back
[00:31:24] and pretending that Andrew Kovette was
[00:31:25] problematic. Maybe some credit to to
[00:31:28] Andrew Kovette for being enough of a
[00:31:29] gentleman to absorb all of that to allow
[00:31:32] people to think that it was just him
[00:31:33] acting rogue when it wasn't. It
[00:31:34] factually was not. We were lied to. Um I
[00:31:38] and I don't know what the purpose is of
[00:31:39] that lie. That's what troubles me. What
[00:31:41] is the purpose of that lie? And by the
[00:31:43] way, just going back to that end of uh
[00:31:47] the timeline that we have put together,
[00:31:49] it's actually stunning to consider that
[00:31:52] when they opted to have the three-way
[00:31:54] call with the doctor, okay, when they
[00:31:57] hurried hurried and called the surgeon
[00:31:59] because I did an episode and I was like,
[00:32:01] "Hey, something's really weird that you
[00:32:02] guys should know is that, you know, the
[00:32:04] bul didn't go through. There was no
[00:32:05] blood in the back of Charlie." And then
[00:32:06] Erica and Andrew got on the phone with
[00:32:09] the surgeon.
[00:32:12] That was on the day of Charlie's actual
[00:32:13] funeral mass. Like that was a priority
[00:32:15] for them to have something to issue as a
[00:32:19] statement onto X to try to explain away
[00:32:22] why a 306 didn't go through. Like that
[00:32:24] doesn't seem like the proper day for
[00:32:26] that. But [clears throat] that's when it
[00:32:27] happened. That's when it factually that
[00:32:29] phone call took place. We know because
[00:32:30] Andrew said just got off the phone with
[00:32:32] the surgeon. So we don't have to imagine
[00:32:34] when that was the day after my episode
[00:32:36] when people were going, "What do you
[00:32:37] mean there's no blood in the back? What
[00:32:38] do you mean the 306?
[00:32:41] Why lie about that? Why are we being
[00:32:43] lied to? And we're supposed to accept
[00:32:45] that they have enough money, well, they
[00:32:46] do, to hire crisis PR people and a bunch
[00:32:49] of accounts on uh X to tell us that it's
[00:32:52] ungodly for us to not just sit there and
[00:32:54] be lied to. That God's mandate means you
[00:32:57] you can't question this. You can't
[00:32:59] question why kids are being treated like
[00:33:00] this. Like, this is Charlie's vision.
[00:33:01] He's dancing in heaven watching how kids
[00:33:04] that a bunch of students that slaved for
[00:33:07] him 20our days to put together uh the
[00:33:12] memorial events are being let go for no
[00:33:15] reason other than loyalty tests that are
[00:33:17] being conducted by Marina the COO who's
[00:33:21] talking to Uber drivers for the tea.
[00:33:22] Hey, have you hear anything about
[00:33:23] Turning Point USA? Well, I heard that
[00:33:25] this Uber driver said that you may have
[00:33:26] said something. Bring her into the room.
[00:33:28] She may have critiqued Erica. Not
[00:33:30] allowed. What is this, guys? It's it's
[00:33:33] severe manipulation and it's not okay.
[00:33:36] It's not okay at all. And what is
[00:33:38] guiding that though? What what is
[00:33:39] guiding
[00:33:41] the lies?
[00:33:43] That's what I'm interested in. I don't
[00:33:45] like when people lie to my face. I
[00:33:46] really don't like when people lie to my
[00:33:47] face. And then I don't like when they
[00:33:48] send me cease and desist because I told
[00:33:49] the truth. I would say that's like um a
[00:33:53] personal trigger of mine. Anyway, we're
[00:33:55] going to take a brief break and get into
[00:33:58] some more people grieving differently in
[00:34:00] the form of former CEOs.
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[00:37:07] I would say that we exist in a time
[00:37:08] right now where we recognize that the we
[00:37:11] live in a matrix. We actually live in a
[00:37:13] matrix and that matrix is fully
[00:37:15] glitching. We don't know where this is
[00:37:18] going to end. It's sort of like we know
[00:37:21] they're lying. They're caught lying.
[00:37:23] They know that they've lost power, but
[00:37:24] they're still going to create this
[00:37:25] illusion that they haven't. They're
[00:37:27] going to keep writing articles. They're
[00:37:28] going to keep smearing people that are
[00:37:29] telling the truth even though it's
[00:37:31] ineffectual. Like, no, we actually don't
[00:37:33] care anymore what they're writing, but
[00:37:35] they're going to keep doing it. They're
[00:37:36] going to tell us who we have to like.
[00:37:37] They're going to keep pretending
[00:37:40] um that these people are popular and
[00:37:42] these people are awful. I When does it
[00:37:45] stop? Everything feels fake and gay and
[00:37:48] fictitious. And we're learning that
[00:37:50] people who pretended like they cared
[00:37:53] about free speech are the number one
[00:37:55] people that are trying to squash it.
[00:37:57] They're trying to squash it now. And
[00:37:58] there's no greater example of that than
[00:38:00] of course Daily Wire. Now the Daily Wire
[00:38:02] CEO
[00:38:04] one day it will Daily Wire is a company
[00:38:07] in a fair world probably not one day and
[00:38:08] so therefore probably not in this world
[00:38:10] but if we lived in a fair world it would
[00:38:12] be taught in psychology courses like
[00:38:14] watching what this company did to itself
[00:38:17] in the span of one year is incredible.
[00:38:19] subjectively as an interest piece.
[00:38:23] Incredible. Like if I'm just a
[00:38:24] journalist going, "This is fascinating."
[00:38:25] Right? Jeremy Boring was the CEO when
[00:38:27] all that happened. And he kind of went
[00:38:29] away for I would say a year and now he's
[00:38:32] back. He would never not be back. Guys,
[00:38:34] this man loves the spotlight like you
[00:38:36] wouldn't believe. We're going to talk
[00:38:36] about that in a second. But he goes on
[00:38:38] to a podcast and decides to open up
[00:38:42] about me, of course, and what I did
[00:38:46] wrong, saying essentially things were
[00:38:49] fine until they weren't fine. And I'm
[00:38:51] just going to let you hear him in in
[00:38:53] context, what I've what I've done here
[00:38:54] and what he has to say about me. Take a
[00:38:56] listen.
[00:38:57] >> When Candice worked for you, do you
[00:38:59] sometimes look back at the decision and
[00:39:01] think that wasn't a good one when she
[00:39:03] was working at the wire?
[00:39:05] >> Yeah. Well, I certainly think that
[00:39:07] hiring Candace is probably the biggest
[00:39:09] mistake of my professional life so far.
[00:39:12] Um, at the time I had misgivings about
[00:39:16] Candace, but I it wasn't a completely
[00:39:19] cynical decision. I believed that uh
[00:39:21] Candace could be a great force for good
[00:39:23] in the world. Um, I still believe that
[00:39:25] Candace is the most talented person I've
[00:39:27] ever met, not just in conservative
[00:39:29] media, but in in any media. She has it,
[00:39:31] you know, she has that star quality. You
[00:39:33] know it the moment that you meet her.
[00:39:35] Unbelievable charm, unbelievable
[00:39:37] charisma. The camera absolutely loves
[00:39:39] her. She uh she has incredibly unique
[00:39:43] gifts and skills in that area. And when
[00:39:45] she wields those gifts and skills for
[00:39:47] good, she's incredibly effective. She
[00:39:49] was during the BLM movement in America.
[00:39:52] Some of the content that we made when we
[00:39:53] first brought Candace on was focused on
[00:39:55] that topic and I think she was as good
[00:39:57] as anybody in the world and made a
[00:39:58] really positive impact.
[00:40:02] I've said before, Candace is like
[00:40:03] nuclear energy. You know, if you if you
[00:40:05] harness it properly, she can power a
[00:40:06] city. If you lose control, she'll
[00:40:08] flatten the city. And I think that's
[00:40:10] what we're seeing now. Candace uh all
[00:40:13] those same gifts that she has at various
[00:40:16] times used for good, she's now using for
[00:40:18] ill. And there's no one better. The
[00:40:20] problem is if what you're pursuing is
[00:40:23] bad and you're the best at it, you're
[00:40:25] going to do an incredible amount of
[00:40:26] damage. And Candace is doing an
[00:40:27] incredible amount of damage.
[00:40:30] So, what's amazing about that is he's
[00:40:33] not even aware of how objectively racist
[00:40:36] what he just said was. We brought
[00:40:38] Candace on because she was critiquing
[00:40:41] black people. [laughter] We brought her
[00:40:43] on because it was nice to have a black
[00:40:45] person that was willing to call out
[00:40:47] Black Lives Matter. And that's largely
[00:40:48] why we brought her on. That's why we
[00:40:50] did. And she was doing great. We did the
[00:40:51] documentary and she talked about how
[00:40:52] Black Lives Matter had grown into really
[00:40:54] what it was was a black supremacy
[00:40:55] movement where they were no longer
[00:40:56] fighting for equality. actually what
[00:40:58] they wanted was special treatment. I
[00:40:59] believe that. I stand by that. I have
[00:41:00] not shifted my viewpoints on BLM and the
[00:41:02] fact that it was going to ultimately
[00:41:04] backfire on black America like it did
[00:41:06] burn down black American cities. But
[00:41:08] then then that oh my gosh when she then
[00:41:13] noticed that Israel was actually
[00:41:16] flattening cities. Really bad analogy
[00:41:18] there Jeremy when she noticed that
[00:41:20] actually the Jewish community was was
[00:41:22] acting like the supremacist suddenly and
[00:41:25] uh noticed that they were acting uh
[00:41:28] exceptionally they wanted to be treated
[00:41:29] exceptionally and they were coming after
[00:41:31] speech. That's when I realized that this
[00:41:33] energy this energy couldn't be
[00:41:35] harnessed. That's when we realized we
[00:41:36] had a problem. Oh, it could do great
[00:41:38] damage. It could flatten a city like
[00:41:39] BBNet and Yahoo did to Gaza. That's when
[00:41:42] [sighs] man, she was a talent. When I
[00:41:44] could teach her to go after black
[00:41:46] people, but then when she sort of
[00:41:48] noticed that Jewish people were not uh
[00:41:50] behaving correctly and were making
[00:41:51] demands in in a similar fashion and
[00:41:53] coming after people's lives and
[00:41:54] livelihood, that's when well, we had to
[00:41:57] draw the line. Nuclear energy, it's very
[00:42:00] bad. It's amazing. And then he he's
[00:42:02] going to correlate my show to
[00:42:06] pornography. Take a listen.
[00:42:09] >> You say people tell you that they listen
[00:42:10] to Candace. I had a guy tell me
[00:42:11] recently, he said, "You know what? What
[00:42:13] should I say to my wife? You know, she
[00:42:15] keeps she keeps telling me about things
[00:42:17] that she hears Candace say, and I I
[00:42:18] don't even know how to respond to them."
[00:42:20] I said, "I I would just respond by
[00:42:22] telling her fun things that you saw in
[00:42:24] some porno video that you watched."
[00:42:26] [laughter]
[00:42:26] >> He said, "Whoa, what are you talking
[00:42:27] about?" I said, "Well, the same level of
[00:42:28] shame should accompany both statements."
[00:42:31] Like,
[00:42:31] >> uh, one should be ashamed to say
[00:42:33] publicly that they're watching Candace
[00:42:35] Owens now.
[00:42:36] >> And Candace Owens, who is at war with
[00:42:38] the widow of her purported best friend,
[00:42:41] Charlie Kirk, uh, this is this is so far
[00:42:46] beyond the pale. You know, the fact that
[00:42:48] people can say with a straight face, oh,
[00:42:50] what do you make of what Candace said?
[00:42:52] What I make of it is that it is a kind
[00:42:55] of pornography.
[00:42:57] It is it is rhetorical pornography. It
[00:43:00] does the same thing that regular
[00:43:01] pornography does. It titillates. It
[00:43:02] stimulates. It's slightly naughty. Uh
[00:43:06] it's great for getting clicks and it
[00:43:07] makes tons of money on the internet.
[00:43:10] And you shouldn't be able to look at it
[00:43:11] if you're under 18 or [laughter]
[00:43:16] >> Now I remind you that one of the reasons
[00:43:17] I got fired is I said we should look
[00:43:18] into the history of pornography. Don't
[00:43:19] ask him that question. Don't ask him
[00:43:21] [laughter] about real pornography and
[00:43:23] where it comes from. Don't do that.
[00:43:26] Don't you dare because then you would be
[00:43:28] the kind of nuclear energy that we can't
[00:43:31] harness correctly. Now when you you talk
[00:43:32] about pornography, you should talk about
[00:43:34] real pornography. You should talk about
[00:43:35] podcast or people are getting educated
[00:43:36] and recognizing that there are double
[00:43:37] standards and that you cannot use
[00:43:39] emotional arguments like BLM did and
[00:43:42] like we are seeing Israel do today to go
[00:43:44] you you can't talk about the facts.
[00:43:46] George Floyd died and we can't talk
[00:43:47] about any more facts and this is crazy
[00:43:49] and we're all sad and we can't even
[00:43:51] discuss things rationally. same thing
[00:43:54] Israel post October 7th he's this is he
[00:43:57] is arguing like a leftist but the moment
[00:44:00] where you really recognize that we I had
[00:44:04] hoped that he checked into treatment to
[00:44:05] be honest with you but he has zero
[00:44:07] self-awareness is when Jeremy accuses me
[00:44:11] of being self arandizing take a listen
[00:44:13] to what he had to say
[00:44:15] >> Candace Owens is engaged in a as I as I
[00:44:19] see it Candace is engaged in um a
[00:44:22] project of self argrandisement.
[00:44:25] I've asked Candace on two separate
[00:44:26] occasions, what do you actually believe?
[00:44:29] And on both occasions, she told me, "I
[00:44:31] believe what the people believe. I am
[00:44:33] the voice of the people."
[00:44:36] >> Never mind that that's a completely
[00:44:38] amoral statement. Never mind that I
[00:44:41] don't know who the people are in this
[00:44:42] conversation. Uh never mind that the
[00:44:44] people, whoever they are, can obviously
[00:44:46] be wrong. Handis is actually saying
[00:44:48] somethingwhat profound. She's she's
[00:44:50] saying, "I will say whatever gets the
[00:44:52] most reward." She may not even know that
[00:44:55] that's what she's saying, but she's
[00:44:56] essentially she's uh articulating
[00:44:59] audience capture as a virtue.
[00:45:02] This is incredible for so many reasons.
[00:45:04] So, the first and foremost, that is
[00:45:05] obviously made up. It's it's such an
[00:45:07] obviously madeup conversation. Who just
[00:45:09] comes in and goes, "What do you
[00:45:10] believe?" Zero context. And then someone
[00:45:13] just replies and says, "I believe
[00:45:14] whatever the people believe." Zero.
[00:45:16] Like, believe regarding what are we
[00:45:19] talking about? faith. What are we
[00:45:20] talking about? The transgender movement.
[00:45:21] We don't just ask someone. I asked her
[00:45:22] three times. She said, "I believe
[00:45:24] whatever the people believe because I
[00:45:25] just want clicks." Which is why she took
[00:45:27] this path of going up against Black
[00:45:29] Lives Matter as a black person and
[00:45:30] putting on a Trump hat because the easy
[00:45:32] route that was obviously the easy route
[00:45:34] to get clicks back in 2016 is completely
[00:45:38] ridiculous. But to pretend that I am
[00:45:41] into myself, you I have to just shout
[00:45:43] this out because there are Daily Wire
[00:45:45] employees. You don't understand what we
[00:45:46] live through, you guys. And and they
[00:45:48] need to hear this. and they're just
[00:45:49] somewhere they're they're passing away
[00:45:51] listening to Jeremy Boring talk about
[00:45:52] somebody who likes attention. Jeremy
[00:45:54] Boring is the CEO who woke up every day
[00:45:57] like I I'm his biggest regret. So many
[00:46:00] more regrets that I could toss out of
[00:46:01] him. I'm going to try a few. like
[00:46:03] getting up every day, going into the
[00:46:05] office and getting your hair and your
[00:46:06] makeup done to play the role of a CEO.
[00:46:09] Making talent, people who had shows wait
[00:46:12] outside while you close the room, had
[00:46:14] people wash your hair, do your makeup,
[00:46:16] and style you hundreds of thousands of
[00:46:19] dollars on a clothing rack so you could
[00:46:21] go sit in the office and take phone
[00:46:23] calls like a CEO. That probably actually
[00:46:25] was the honest Jeremy. He's always been
[00:46:28] an aspiring actor. That's who he wants
[00:46:30] to be. He wants to be on a stage and he
[00:46:32] literally builds stages every time he
[00:46:34] speaks at the Daily Wire. Jeremy Boring
[00:46:36] is a person that is so obsessed with
[00:46:38] himself and thinks about nobody else
[00:46:40] that he put the company into debt. What
[00:46:42] happens? What's the true story? What
[00:46:43] happened to the Daily Wire? Jeremy
[00:46:45] Boring was wanting to live out his
[00:46:49] boyhood theater kid dreams, right? He
[00:46:53] blew flew out virtually the entire
[00:46:56] company to Hungary to bring a book that
[00:46:59] he read in middle school to life on a
[00:47:02] budget that would make HBO blush. Paying
[00:47:05] to transport bulls across the continent
[00:47:08] of Europe and the process obviously
[00:47:11] plummeting a once financially healthy
[00:47:13] company into the ground. I am told last
[00:47:15] number I heard was $67 million spent on
[00:47:19] a high school dream. so much money that
[00:47:21] he had to borrow empty a savings
[00:47:23] account, borrow money personally from
[00:47:25] Ben Shapiro to make ends meet because he
[00:47:28] couldn't let go of his high school
[00:47:29] dream. That's not ranking as his number
[00:47:32] one regret because that's the true story
[00:47:34] of what happened in the Daily Wire.
[00:47:35] Everything else is noise. Actually, the
[00:47:38] Bull Work podcast, which is no friend of
[00:47:39] mine, they hate me. Um, they were pretty
[00:47:42] frank if you go back and listen and
[00:47:44] honest about what happened at the Daily
[00:47:47] Wire. They spent some time investigating
[00:47:49] it. Take a listen.
[00:47:51] because of the Daily Wire's enormous
[00:47:52] revenues, they were in their their
[00:47:54] streaming ambitions, Jeremy Borg was
[00:47:57] able to become not just like to finance
[00:47:59] this, but he is the director and the
[00:48:01] creator of it. Um, this like incredibly
[00:48:04] ambitious uh operation and so like they
[00:48:07] they made these production diaries and
[00:48:08] so I watched these videos on YouTube of
[00:48:10] them filming it and you look at it and
[00:48:12] it's like are they capable of doing
[00:48:14] this? I mean, we're talking of like a
[00:48:16] hundred extras like fist fighting in a
[00:48:18] marsh in Hungary. Like the mist is
[00:48:21] coming in all like enormous crews. Then
[00:48:23] they're like, "Well, we're flying off to
[00:48:24] Italy."
[00:48:25] >> And this was on the Daily Wires dime.
[00:48:27] They were doing this.
[00:48:27] >> Yeah. [laughter]
[00:48:28] >> Oh my god.
[00:48:29] >> Oh yeah. We're flying to Italy to film
[00:48:31] with bulls, but they were imported from
[00:48:33] Spain, so it's all good. Like it's it's
[00:48:34] authentic. And you're just like like
[00:48:36] kaching kaching kaching. [laughter]
[00:48:39] >> And it still hasn't come out. Well, that
[00:48:40] might explain
[00:48:42] some of this departure agreement where
[00:48:45] you're spending millions on a bizarre
[00:48:49] project set in Roman era Britain but
[00:48:52] filmed in Hungary involving Italian
[00:48:54] bulls meant to be from Spain.
[00:48:57] >> That's actually that's actually what
[00:48:59] happened and it caused me Jeremy Boring
[00:49:01] to have a mental a mental break and we
[00:49:04] all just had to be subjected to it um as
[00:49:06] people that were working up at Daily
[00:49:07] Wire. And he would think that after
[00:49:08] taking a hiatus, he would come back and
[00:49:10] realizing this failed, nobody wanted to
[00:49:12] buy it. Nobody wanted anything to do
[00:49:13] with it because like always, he casts
[00:49:15] himself in every role. Jeremy Boring's
[00:49:17] razors, Jeremy Boring's hair products,
[00:49:18] Jeremy Boring's high school project. Uh
[00:49:21] Jeremy Boring, Jeremy Boring all the
[00:49:23] time. Build a stage cuz I want to fire
[00:49:25] Candace. You would think, but after
[00:49:27] taking a year to reflect, he would come
[00:49:30] back and say, "That's my biggest
[00:49:31] mistake. that I put me at the center of
[00:49:34] everything and I took a financially
[00:49:36] healthy company and I crushed it. And
[00:49:38] you know what else was a mistake? If I'm
[00:49:39] Jeremy Boring, I would say it was a
[00:49:40] mistake not to just end things amicably
[00:49:42] with Candace. Especially when she gave
[00:49:45] me the option after Ben jumped up on a
[00:49:47] table and accused her of being a faux
[00:49:51] sophisticate because she said genocide
[00:49:53] is always wrong. Yeah. when she came to
[00:49:57] me eight and a half months pregnant,
[00:49:58] hands open and willing to discuss and
[00:50:00] fix things or agree to amicably go our
[00:50:03] separate ways if we couldn't post
[00:50:04] October 7th. Uh he he decided not to do
[00:50:09] that. Jeremy decided to instead
[00:50:11] maniacally
[00:50:13] uh convey to me that they suspected that
[00:50:16] I might have been secretly working with
[00:50:17] Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson like
[00:50:19] we're the three musketeers or something.
[00:50:21] Rather than simply humbling himself,
[00:50:24] admitting that he was completely deluded
[00:50:26] and wrong and that I was in fact always
[00:50:28] loyal to the company that I worked for,
[00:50:30] he hatched up his next great plan. Oh, I
[00:50:32] know. I'll I'll fix two birds with one
[00:50:34] stone. Okay, I sank the company into
[00:50:36] debt, but I can fix it. My next big plan
[00:50:39] is to do what we did to Breitbart. We'll
[00:50:41] create a fake scandal. We'll accuse
[00:50:43] Candace, who's actually hardworking,
[00:50:46] super pregnant. We'll accuse her of
[00:50:49] being anti-Semitic and gloriously fire
[00:50:51] her over having said Christ is king.
[00:50:53] We'll do this during Lent because surely
[00:50:55] that will lead to more Daily Wire
[00:50:57] signups. It worked for us once at
[00:50:58] Breitbart. You think we can do it again?
[00:50:59] The world will see it our way, right?
[00:51:02] The world will see it our way. They'll
[00:51:03] realize that we had to do the tough but
[00:51:04] the moral thing. Well, well, it it's a
[00:51:06] scop. like we just need the money. But
[00:51:08] they'll realize that we took a moral
[00:51:10] stance for Jews because what kind of
[00:51:13] monster tweets genocide is always wrong.
[00:51:16] True story. Jeremy actually personally
[00:51:19] reviewed Andrew Claven's episode before
[00:51:21] it went out. The first attack after we
[00:51:24] amicably departed. Jeremy proved it.
[00:51:26] He's so genius and so sure of himself.
[00:51:29] Management truly believed that they were
[00:51:31] going to get a bunch of signups of the
[00:51:33] Daily Wire in mass. the whole world was
[00:51:35] going to support them and their debt
[00:51:36] issues would be wiped away.
[00:51:39] And it's now been two years. And you
[00:51:40] would think, Jeremy, I would think that
[00:51:43] you might have the courage to admit that
[00:51:44] it was simply a bad decision to build a
[00:51:47] stage, to execute a corporate slave
[00:51:50] hanging, to go to war over with someone
[00:51:52] that would have amically left. I think
[00:51:55] it also may have left a bad taste in a
[00:51:56] lot of employees mouths, many of whom uh
[00:51:59] subsequently left and leaked to the
[00:52:01] press what had happened because uh
[00:52:04] because unlike you, I actually knew
[00:52:06] those employees names. You never
[00:52:07] bothered to learn their names. You
[00:52:08] walked by them. They were beneath you.
[00:52:10] They weren't exactly buying what their
[00:52:12] narcissistic CEO who puts his name on
[00:52:14] everything was selling when it came to
[00:52:17] me. And what you did to me came across
[00:52:20] as cruel and unnecessary. A little extra
[00:52:22] judicial. Most people just This could
[00:52:24] have been an email. Now, if I was in
[00:52:26] your shoes, I I might even rank having
[00:52:30] sent an intern on a secret mission to
[00:52:32] stalk the woman that you just fired to
[00:52:35] Dallas to Turning Point USA to put her
[00:52:36] on a plane, an intern. I might rank that
[00:52:39] as having been a mistake, a psychotic
[00:52:42] mistake, no less. uh followed by a
[00:52:46] somehow even worse decision as a CEO to
[00:52:48] then author a maniacal almost five-page
[00:52:51] long email to the entire company
[00:52:53] admitting to the act justifying the
[00:52:55] decision to secretly follow someone that
[00:52:57] you had gloriously fired saying and I
[00:53:00] quote it's my right it's my right to
[00:53:02] know what she's saying that's not why
[00:53:04] you were sending her you were sending
[00:53:05] her to ask me a question if you wanted
[00:53:08] to know what I was saying turning point
[00:53:09] USA live streams their events okay we
[00:53:12] know what you were doing now were I in
[00:53:14] your shoes, Jeremy. I might even rank
[00:53:17] you bizarrely telling Brett Cooper than
[00:53:20] a very young employee of yours just a
[00:53:23] few weeks before she was slated to get
[00:53:26] married, sitting her down and telling
[00:53:27] her that she she shouldn't do that
[00:53:29] because you had big plans and you were
[00:53:31] going to turn her into a star because
[00:53:32] you're the magic. I would probably rank
[00:53:34] that
[00:53:36] at the tippity top of bad corporate
[00:53:38] decisions among others. You maybe forgot
[00:53:41] yourself in that moment as you always
[00:53:42] do. maybe got a little swept up in you,
[00:53:45] but conservatives, those pretending to
[00:53:47] be conservative companies certainly uh
[00:53:50] are not supposed to chase Hollywood fame
[00:53:53] above family. And I think personally
[00:53:55] that she made the right decision to
[00:53:56] leave. And then you made again the wrong
[00:53:59] decision like the angry rep repressed
[00:54:02] homosexual that you are to not just
[00:54:04] allow a young woman again 21 years old
[00:54:08] to just leave, but to again stalk
[00:54:11] because that's what you do. You stalk.
[00:54:12] You pretend it's a business, but you're
[00:54:13] you're glorified stalkers. in this time
[00:54:16] in the most sadistic manner possibly
[00:54:17] ever, offering an obscene amount of
[00:54:20] money to her maid of honor at that
[00:54:22] wedding that you didn't want her to
[00:54:24] have, to hurt her, replacing her with
[00:54:27] her maid of otter because you wanted
[00:54:29] Brett Cooper, a young woman, to suffer
[00:54:32] for simply wanting to change jobs, which
[00:54:36] is why you worked behind the scenes
[00:54:38] through the same demented PR orbit to
[00:54:41] try to smear her, the friendly pop
[00:54:43] culture young girl, as an anti-semite.
[00:54:45] over an Instagram like because she liked
[00:54:48] a yearend roundup of my podcast. And you
[00:54:51] wouldn't have that. You wouldn't have
[00:54:52] that. You know, I I'd rank that as
[00:54:55] another mistake. But what I rank as one
[00:54:57] of my prouder moments in all of that was
[00:55:00] using some of my nuclear energy to stand
[00:55:02] up for her publicly despite contractual
[00:55:04] restraints. Using my platform to say
[00:55:06] what you did to her was wrong. And when
[00:55:08] you sued me for that, for standing up
[00:55:10] for Brett Cooper, I want you to know
[00:55:11] that I communicated to my legal team
[00:55:13] that I would accept that. I would accept
[00:55:15] the penalty of hundreds of thousands of
[00:55:17] dollars which you wanted uh to impart
[00:55:19] upon me for me doing the right thing and
[00:55:21] standing up for someone who didn't
[00:55:22] deserve what you were putting her
[00:55:23] through. You did put me through it and
[00:55:25] you were trying to put her through it.
[00:55:26] And I told my husband that I would
[00:55:27] gladly pay that money. I said if the
[00:55:29] judge came back in your favor, I
[00:55:30] wouldn't lie. I would admit that I
[00:55:32] consciously stood up for somebody who
[00:55:33] didn't deserve to be smeared. I'm proud
[00:55:36] of that. In fact, I would have hung it
[00:55:38] up on a wall and showed my kids that
[00:55:40] money isn't everything. Doing the right
[00:55:41] thing is. So
[00:55:44] maybe all of that could rank somewhere
[00:55:46] as your ranking worst decisions that
[00:55:49] you've ever made.
[00:55:51] No, probably not, right? Probably not
[00:55:53] because you are just a malignant
[00:55:56] narcissist. You admitted to me that you
[00:55:58] had a mental break in Hungary. They
[00:56:00] didn't sleep for days. And you never
[00:56:03] really, Jeremy, have admitted to
[00:56:05] yourself that you haven't come back from
[00:56:07] it. You really have not come back from
[00:56:08] it. You You are not okay. your plan here
[00:56:11] to redeem yourself uh was to try to
[00:56:14] destroy my life. You blame me for what
[00:56:16] you did.
[00:56:19] In the process, honestly, the only thing
[00:56:21] that you've been successful at is
[00:56:23] ruining your own life. So, what I think
[00:56:26] that you're actually suited for, Jeremy,
[00:56:28] is to return back to Texas where you
[00:56:29] grew up, that key you wear around that
[00:56:32] your neck, that bent key that you wear
[00:56:33] as a necklace every day. Okay, for those
[00:56:35] of you who don't know that key, which
[00:56:37] the company is named after, Bent Key
[00:56:39] Ventures, is a key that he's kept around
[00:56:42] his neck for 28 years from his hometown,
[00:56:45] and it unlocks a Playhouse Theater where
[00:56:48] he once performed on stage. I think that
[00:56:53] that's where he should return. He's best
[00:56:54] suited to go back to Texas to quit
[00:56:55] playing pretend in the real world, and
[00:56:58] to resume his playhouse acting.
[00:57:02] How's that? We'll be right back after.
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[00:58:27] All right, top comment from last
[00:58:28] episode. Uh Michael writes, "Calling her
[00:58:31] assassinated husband's memorial an event
[00:58:33] of the century is a new form of grief
[00:58:35] that has never been seen before." Yeah,
[00:58:38] I like I said, I'm done making excuses
[00:58:40] after she got caught red-handed and
[00:58:42] everything I'm learning from the
[00:58:43] employees right now. Like she was very
[00:58:45] much involved in a lot of the PR stuff.
[00:58:47] She I assumed everyone was just doing
[00:58:50] things and she was gathering herself and
[00:58:51] she was like at home in the fetal uh
[00:58:53] condition. Nope. She was in the office
[00:58:55] every day and she was making informed
[00:58:57] decisions alongside Stacy Sheridan and
[00:58:59] this Marina Mas who I need to take time
[00:59:00] to look into who apparently, by the way,
[00:59:02] ironically watches my show every day in
[00:59:04] the office. Turning Point USA watches
[00:59:06] this show live in the office and then
[00:59:07] fired someone for screenshotting
[00:59:10] this show in the office. I don't even I
[00:59:12] I I don't comprehend that. I'm going to
[00:59:14] be honest with you. Um, okay. Let's get
[00:59:16] into some of your comments from today's
[00:59:18] episode. Uh, Kiki writes, "Candice, what
[00:59:21] do you mean? Erica said she was watching
[00:59:22] your show in the beginning and learning.
[00:59:24] Her husband was just murdered and she
[00:59:26] was waiting to tune into your next
[00:59:27] episode. She did not call and ask you
[00:59:29] for every detail. Be for real, Erica.
[00:59:31] She thinks we are dumb." Again, yes, in
[00:59:34] retrospect, I realized and have since
[00:59:36] learned that she did tell me a lot of uh
[00:59:40] fibs during our sitdown. And the biggest
[00:59:43] one for me is just the consistent
[00:59:45] throwing Andrew Kovette under the bus
[00:59:47] and then me learning that Andrew told
[00:59:48] the truth from other people.
[00:59:51] I'm getting I was getting played. I was
[00:59:52] getting played. And I will own the fact
[00:59:55] that I was not in a position emotionally
[00:59:58] to contend with her acting in that
[01:00:02] manner at all. Obviously, I knew Charlie
[01:00:04] personally. So, I was not Look, this
[01:00:05] story was not objective for me. This has
[01:00:07] been a subjective story. I was genuinely
[01:00:09] in grief and my sister was correct when
[01:00:11] she said, "You have suffered a trauma. I
[01:00:13] couldn't eat. I couldn't sleep. I uh had
[01:00:16] when I went to Wyoming, it was I was
[01:00:18] starting to go through the phase of
[01:00:20] bargaining and hoping that Charlie
[01:00:22] really was alive." Like trying to find
[01:00:23] the part the pocket of the internet that
[01:00:24] would tell me that he was actually
[01:00:25] secretly alive. And I realized I that
[01:00:28] that's not a good place to be in and I
[01:00:30] need to take a break and to deal and get
[01:00:32] to the stage of acceptance. And I don't
[01:00:34] think I don't regret that it took me a
[01:00:36] while to even look at what other people
[01:00:40] were saying. I I think I needed to
[01:00:42] believe that these were his real friends
[01:00:45] and that everything in his life was I
[01:00:47] don't know. I don't know what I needed
[01:00:48] to believe. I I was going through my own
[01:00:49] process. I wasn't ready. And I am ready
[01:00:52] now because I don't like people lie to
[01:00:53] my face and I don't like when people use
[01:00:54] a lot of money and PR agents and I just
[01:00:57] feel foolish to be honest with you and
[01:01:00] then send me a cease and desist is
[01:01:02] crazy.
[01:01:04] Like you don't have a right to
[01:01:05] investigate what happened to Charlie.
[01:01:07] You don't have a right to ask questions
[01:01:09] about his murder because our contract
[01:01:11] covers everybody and their mamas.
[01:01:14] Goodbye.
[01:01:16] Again, unconscionable. Something I could
[01:01:18] not have known when I signed that
[01:01:21] agreement to tour with Charlie Kirk is
[01:01:23] that he was going to be publicly
[01:01:24] assassinated and the people at the
[01:01:27] organization that he built. Okay. Many
[01:01:30] nights of no sleep were going to be
[01:01:33] colluding to obscure things from the
[01:01:35] public. That's a pretty strong thing
[01:01:36] that I could not have known. I I just
[01:01:39] I'm so this whole contract stuff. It's
[01:01:42] fake. It's gay. It's over. We left it in
[01:01:44] 2025. Okay. the lawsuit stuff to
[01:01:48] basically say I'm allowed to be immoral
[01:01:50] because you signed a contract and didn't
[01:01:52] perceive how I could be immoral is just
[01:01:55] done. You're welcome. It's over. It's
[01:01:59] done. And the people that do this should
[01:02:00] just be called out at all times. Honor
[01:02:02] no contracts where people are trying to
[01:02:05] make it so that they can treat you
[01:02:07] immorally. Honor no contracts. There's
[01:02:10] no way a contract can be written that
[01:02:12] says I'm allowed to be a jerk, an
[01:02:15] I'm allowed to lie and I'm
[01:02:17] allowed to abuse you because you sign of
[01:02:19] a dotted line. Blow him up. Blow him up.
[01:02:22] Okay. I'm sorry. [sighs] You know, this
[01:02:26] is the time where I make a statement
[01:02:27] that I did tell the priest that I would
[01:02:29] uh chill and I am going to talk to him.
[01:02:32] Actually, I realize that it's been a
[01:02:34] probably like seven weeks since I've
[01:02:37] spoken to him and I'm going to get on
[01:02:38] that. Anyways, I call Shia writes season
[01:02:42] 3 episode 4 of Everyone Grieves Dently.
[01:02:45] Oh, no. You got that wrong. It's We're
[01:02:47] in season eight, I think. Actually,
[01:02:48] seven Sheets writes, "Boring makes my
[01:02:50] skin crawl all the more reason. We're
[01:02:52] here watching you and have been long
[01:02:54] before the tragedy of Charlie Kirk and
[01:02:55] continue to be. God bless you, our Jon
[01:02:57] of Arc. I will uh keep dropping these
[01:03:00] and more if we can get two-hour episodes
[01:03:02] with Candace." But I love what we get.
[01:03:04] So, appreciate it. That's a a tremendous
[01:03:05] donation. I really appreciate you guys.
[01:03:07] And yeah, I just I don't know. Maybe
[01:03:11] something did break inside of me with
[01:03:12] this whole Charlie Kirk thing, but it is
[01:03:14] it is the audacity of all of it. These
[01:03:15] they're such bad people. That's what I
[01:03:17] want you to know. They're such bad
[01:03:18] people. I have not even told you 10% of
[01:03:20] what Jeremy Boring put me through. I
[01:03:23] mean, and yeah, every time it was, we'll
[01:03:25] bankrupt you. We'll bankrupt you. If you
[01:03:27] tell anybody what we're doing to you,
[01:03:28] we'll bankrupt you. You're you're
[01:03:30] basically allowed to write contracts to
[01:03:32] abuse people because normal people when
[01:03:34] they're signing these agreements, you
[01:03:35] don't you don't think that it's being
[01:03:38] written so that they can abuse you.
[01:03:39] you're like, "Oh, we're just agreeing
[01:03:40] like I'm going to show up to work, do
[01:03:41] the right thing, be honest with you,
[01:03:42] have a communicate with you about what
[01:03:44] I'm going through, and depart amicably."
[01:03:46] But within the world of politics,
[01:03:48] entertainment, that's not what they're
[01:03:50] doing. And that's what I I want to use
[01:03:52] my platform to let you guys know that's
[01:03:54] not what they're doing. They're they're
[01:03:55] trying to control you, and it's very
[01:03:57] sinister. And I I could not stay silent
[01:04:01] with them trying to pull that move on
[01:04:02] Brett Cooper. Like, I was I'm good,
[01:04:05] okay? My kids will be proud of me one
[01:04:06] day. I'm good. Jeanie Thompson writes,
[01:04:09] "Erica kept referring to Charlie as
[01:04:11] still directing Turning Point USA rather
[01:04:13] than acknowledging that Turning Point
[01:04:14] USA is an organization established and
[01:04:16] led by God. That is a cult." Yes, I
[01:04:19] agree with you. It's very
[01:04:23] something about all of it, even keeping
[01:04:27] the mic and putting it in a cage and
[01:04:28] setting up his dinner at a fundraiser.
[01:04:31] There's something that feels like a
[01:04:33] seance to me. And we couldn't control
[01:04:36] him uh when he was alive, but we can
[01:04:40] control him now that he's dead. And we
[01:04:42] can control you and tell you what you're
[01:04:45] what he would have wanted. How can you
[01:04:47] debate that? This is what he would have
[01:04:48] wanted. He's dancing in heaven. How can
[01:04:49] you debate that? And if you do debate
[01:04:50] that, well, sorry guys, cuz now his his
[01:04:53] widow is saying that. So, how dare you?
[01:04:56] That there's something about that that I
[01:04:59] really don't like. And that something is
[01:05:01] all of it. I like none of it actually.
[01:05:05] Uh, Miz Mint Julip writes, "Keep it
[01:05:07] going, team Candace. Take it to the max.
[01:05:09] I'm with you all the way. Thank you so
[01:05:11] much." Julia writes, "I'll never be too
[01:05:13] far right to want the truth, even if it
[01:05:15] goes against the narrative. Christ is
[01:05:16] king. The non- elitists are proud of
[01:05:18] you. It's crazy to go backward and to
[01:05:19] realize I tweeted Christ is king. Not at
[01:05:21] anybody." And um they went ahead and
[01:05:24] tried to spin that into an anti-semitic
[01:05:27] attack. And but we're not going to
[01:05:29] acknowledge these very seemetic
[01:05:31] Palestinians being mass murdered. Like
[01:05:33] they really are trying to convince us
[01:05:34] that words hurt more than mass murder.
[01:05:39] That's just crazy. That genuinely is
[01:05:41] just so objectively crazy. And they do
[01:05:43] this without even flinching. They're
[01:05:44] like, "Whoa, did you see what Candace
[01:05:47] Owens said on her podcast? That's
[01:05:49] pornography." the sexual rituals going
[01:05:51] on in Israel, the people that are
[01:05:53] standing up in Nessa talking about how
[01:05:54] they're being raped and the politicians
[01:05:55] are all in on it. Um, Israel
[01:05:57] blackmailing people using sexual
[01:05:58] blackmail, the mass murder of the
[01:06:00] children. That is not pornography.
[01:06:04] No, not pornography at all. Israel once
[01:06:06] upon a time, what was it in 2002? Taking
[01:06:08] over the uh television television sets
[01:06:12] in Gaza and blaring out pornography to
[01:06:15] use it as a spiritual weapon against
[01:06:16] them.
[01:06:18] That's No, that's that's God. That's
[01:06:22] what God mandated. That's what he
[01:06:23] wanted. Crazy. Son of a Guppy writes,
[01:06:28] "Odd. How could you even put these
[01:06:30] sentences together after the trauma of
[01:06:32] what had just happened? Most people
[01:06:33] would still be curled up in a fetal
[01:06:34] position, drooling and barely
[01:06:36] responsive." Yes, I totally agree with
[01:06:38] you. I agree that all of it's unusual at
[01:06:42] best. We were then told it's
[01:06:44] supernatural that it's like that is what
[01:06:46] God can do in your life. And this gets
[01:06:50] into a larger argument about why people
[01:06:52] need to be ordained as priests and you
[01:06:54] shouldn't be listening to people turn
[01:06:58] biblical proverb into bubble gum. It's a
[01:07:02] snapple fact that you could just insert
[01:07:04] it anywhere. Well, Bible talks about
[01:07:06] grieving and so that could mean selling
[01:07:07] t-shirts or something. Christians are
[01:07:09] different. It's supernatural. It's like
[01:07:11] that is literally why you should consult
[01:07:13] a priest on these batters. You are not
[01:07:17] everybody can just wake up and be a
[01:07:18] pastor because they just turn it into
[01:07:21] their own thoughts and their own
[01:07:23] opinions and the people that they like
[01:07:24] and don't like and then throw in an
[01:07:26] occasional biblical verse and then go,
[01:07:28] "Ha, can't touch this biblical verse.
[01:07:31] Can't touch this." No, we're touching
[01:07:33] this and we're saying what you're
[01:07:35] telling us is wild. We have uh spiritual
[01:07:38] intuition. It feels wrong because there
[01:07:41] is something that's wrong. It's very
[01:07:42] obvious something is wrong with Turning
[01:07:43] Point USA. It's kind of been obvious
[01:07:45] since Charlie got assassinated.
[01:07:49] So, we're going to go ahead and
[01:07:50] acknowledge that all together. 1 2 3.
[01:07:53] Something is not right with Turning
[01:07:55] Point USA. Okay. I'm glad we did that.
[01:07:58] It feels like the first step of many.
[01:08:00] Anyways, tomorrow, speaking of
[01:08:02] Palestinian uh uh lives that have been
[01:08:05] lost and my radical transformation,
[01:08:09] which was no transformation at all. I
[01:08:10] actually have not changed any of my
[01:08:11] opinions. I I've always thought
[01:08:12] murdering children is wrong, why I'm
[01:08:13] pro-life.
[01:08:15] Bassam Yousef was a a major reason that
[01:08:17] I woke up and the Daily Wire denied my
[01:08:20] request while I was there to have him on
[01:08:22] my show. Well, guess what? This is not
[01:08:24] their show anymore. It's my show. And so
[01:08:26] Bas Yousef is going to be joining me
[01:08:28] live and we're going to discuss a
[01:08:29] variety of topics. But I'm really
[01:08:31] grateful to the people who spoke out uh
[01:08:34] early on and awakened I think a lot of
[01:08:36] us to the horrors of what's going on in
[01:08:37] Israel. And he's one of them. So we'll
[01:08:39] see you guys tomorrow. [music]
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