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[00:00:00] all right ladies and gentlemen this is [00:00:01] the moment we have all been waiting for [00:00:03] I'm so excited to share with you this [00:00:06] interview with Xavier pussard uh the [00:00:08] journalist who initially broke the [00:00:11] brigit mccrone Scandal via a publication [00:00:15] he did multiple Series in it [00:00:17] collaborative work with Natasha Ray who [00:00:19] had helped him you'll hear about that so [00:00:22] much is leading up to this moment [00:00:23] obviously so I just wanted to let you [00:00:24] know when I sat down with him at the end [00:00:26] of last year never in a million years [00:00:28] could I have imagined that Emanuel cron [00:00:30] and bit would be sending me a legal [00:00:31] letter uh I believe because they knew [00:00:34] that this interview was going to be [00:00:35] forthcoming and they did not want this [00:00:37] series to happen and in many ways this [00:00:39] series may not have happened uh had it [00:00:41] not been for me digging my feet further [00:00:44] into the ground simply because I believe [00:00:47] in free speech and I believe in [00:00:48] information and I believe that what is [00:00:50] happening in France is evil Xavier [00:00:53] pisard has never before this moment [00:00:55] appeared on camera he has been [00:00:57] remarkably private about his work he has [00:00:58] dedicated years years of his life has [00:01:01] dealt with the brunt of the what I would [00:01:05] describe as a totalitarian government in [00:01:07] France coming after him and his family [00:01:09] he has uprooted his family and had to [00:01:11] move to Italy to make sure that they [00:01:14] were safe and make sure that they were [00:01:16] protected and of course he is not the [00:01:19] only one but this interview is a [00:01:21] culmination of a year worth of work [00:01:24] really a year last year where I read [00:01:27] just the tip of the iceberg and [00:01:29] recognized that this was an explosive [00:01:31] story and then when Xavier Xavier pisard [00:01:35] and I initially sat down and we just [00:01:37] showed a picture of him YouTube moved to [00:01:41] move to take the interview entirely off [00:01:44] and essentially said that we weren't [00:01:45] allowed to discuss Cults or imply [00:01:47] anything about cults but we felt that [00:01:50] they had perhaps been contacted by [00:01:52] someone with a lot of power well this [00:01:54] time what we've done as a response is we [00:01:57] built an entire website where we can put [00:01:59] in interviews like this up without the [00:02:03] fear of having them taken down and of [00:02:05] course that's at Candace ens.com so what [00:02:07] we're going to do today is we're going [00:02:09] to give you 15 minutes of that interview [00:02:12] with Xavier pussard here on YouTube [00:02:14] obviously making sure that nothing trips [00:02:16] over any of their policies and then the [00:02:19] rest of the interview will be available [00:02:20] for free at Candace ens.com so that you [00:02:24] can watch it in its entirety uh just to [00:02:26] let you guys know when he and I were [00:02:28] sitting down I was still trying to [00:02:29] comprehend elements of the story so you [00:02:32] may hear me ask questions as the viewers [00:02:34] would ask questions uh trying to [00:02:36] understand exactly what it was that he [00:02:38] was suggesting that's why we felt that [00:02:40] making this a series so that you guys [00:02:42] could at least have the backing of the [00:02:44] first six episodes to comprehend what he [00:02:47] is saying which I think most of you do [00:02:48] now was so important to us so important [00:02:51] to the team we have put so much work [00:02:52] into this and I am just truly humble in [00:02:55] all of this grateful to Xavier pussard [00:02:57] Natasha Ray and all of the journalists [00:02:59] who have braved the uh French government [00:03:03] really and the evil of the French [00:03:04] government to bring us to this moment so [00:03:07] uh without further Ado here is Xavier [00:03:11] pussard Xavier I really don't even know [00:03:14] where to begin here I already feel like [00:03:16] this is going to be the biggest Story of [00:03:17] the Year and we're only in January and [00:03:20] so I think just for my audiences and [00:03:22] everybody worldwide just tell us how you [00:03:25] got involved in the Brit macron Emmanuel [00:03:29] macron story what your background is and [00:03:32] what piqu your [00:03:41] interest so I got into this subject [00:03:43] because I'm interested in press [00:03:44] portraits and that means I specialize in [00:03:47] unauthorized press portraits the sort of [00:03:49] things that people might not want [00:03:51] somebody to say about them but I do so [00:03:54] with a conscience and I do so as [00:03:56] accurately as [00:03:57] possible and so they sort of dropped [00:04:00] this biography bit mcon emano mcon uh [00:04:05] there's this unofficial biography that [00:04:07] gets dropped about them and what is the [00:04:09] first thing that strikes you as [00:04:15] [Music] [00:04:16] peculiar there was an over mediatization [00:04:19] the mainstream media decided to very [00:04:21] strongly attack the other candidates [00:04:23] during the 2017 presidential election [00:04:26] particularly Penelope Fon and sort of [00:04:30] hail and hail and lawed everything [00:04:32] surrounding Emanuel macron and Brit they [00:04:35] were essentially attacking the far right [00:04:37] everyone apart from them so they tried [00:04:40] to paint this picture of mcon as being a [00:04:42] sort of mosart esque figure that he was [00:04:45] very virtuous and precarious they began [00:04:48] forming a narrative that he had met this [00:04:49] woman when he was 17 years old so this [00:04:52] sort of this man of great precarious [00:04:56] nature a conqueror a virtuoso who no one [00:04:59] could resist essentially just as Mozart [00:05:03] was so the first lie was regarding age a [00:05:06] journalist had compiled a combination of [00:05:08] the amount of times it was noted that [00:05:10] they initially spun a narrative of him [00:05:12] being 17 years old and her being 36 and [00:05:16] so it was sort of this Brave man you [00:05:18] know going after the woman he loved at a [00:05:20] young age because he was just a daring [00:05:23] young chap so to say whereas in fact he [00:05:26] was 14 at the time and she was 9 which [00:05:30] turns it from a brave story into a story [00:05:33] of pedophilia and the abuse of a [00:05:36] minor when their real age was brought to [00:05:38] light there were many mechanisms of [00:05:40] communication in the play from the [00:05:42] couple they really played on the way the [00:05:44] story was brought to the public it was [00:05:46] sort of like Robert dairo and Dustin [00:05:48] Hoffman's movie Wag the Dog where they [00:05:50] used a spin doctor who brought certain [00:05:52] messages to the public to distract them [00:05:55] from the actual true scandal at hand but [00:05:58] there was a narrative spun of the [00:06:00] difference in age being an issue between [00:06:02] a man being younger and a woman being of [00:06:04] an older age whereas the difference of [00:06:07] age was exactly the same between for [00:06:09] example Donald Trump and Melania yet no [00:06:12] one batted an eye there however the [00:06:15] issue is not so much of the difference [00:06:16] in age and people sort of jumped on the [00:06:18] bandwagon here and said well why it's so [00:06:22] unfair how a man with a more advanced [00:06:24] age being with a younger woman is not an [00:06:26] issue but the reverse is quite [00:06:28] scandalous but that is not the issue [00:06:30] here it's an issue of the age of macron [00:06:33] at the time when he was [00:06:35] 14 so this is clearly the abuse of a [00:06:38] minor rather than just having a [00:06:39] salacious story of a difference between [00:06:41] the age of a man and a [00:06:44] woman so essentially what you're saying [00:06:46] is the media tried to do the modern [00:06:49] feminist spin on this somebody got [00:06:51] involved and said we'll take the [00:06:52] feminist angle the sexist angle the [00:06:54] misogynist angle the agist angle and say [00:06:57] you only notice this because it's an old [00:06:59] woman and why is that a problematic if [00:07:02] it's okay for Donald Trump to be dating [00:07:04] Melania it's actually a very smart way [00:07:06] to try to spin it but you're going no no [00:07:08] no no this is not about the age gap [00:07:11] between because it's a man or a woman [00:07:13] Emanuel mcro was just 14 years old and [00:07:15] she was [00:07:18] 39 actually Bri mcon was on the front [00:07:21] page of the economist and there was this [00:07:24] constant push on the left to guilt [00:07:25] people that the idea of patriarchal [00:07:28] society is not right they tried to [00:07:31] portray briet mccon as this Barbie doll [00:07:33] or pinup to the public I believe a firm [00:07:36] noted that in 2018 there was more [00:07:38] content on brigit mccon on the internet [00:07:41] than there was on David Beckham who's [00:07:43] obviously far more [00:07:45] renowned and the internet became [00:07:47] saturated with these curated pictures [00:07:49] and often doctored pictures to make her [00:07:51] seem appealing in a pinup and focusing [00:07:54] on her attire Etc rather than what was [00:07:57] really going on Insiders and power knew [00:08:00] but the media didn't focus on her [00:08:02] increasing level of political importance [00:08:04] which was far greater than most first [00:08:06] ladies had in the past they saw there [00:08:09] were no pictures of her no pictures of [00:08:11] her as a child or as a mother they saw [00:08:14] there was no real background on her and [00:08:16] initially it was well-meaning for [00:08:18] journalists they just wanted to build [00:08:20] upon this narrative which had been [00:08:21] created around her she's this feminist [00:08:24] icon she's big in politics let's tell [00:08:26] her story but they failed every time [00:08:29] they always faced a brick wall in the [00:08:31] end and I would just like to give you [00:08:33] two quotes from journalists who are not [00:08:35] some conspiracy people they're real [00:08:37] journalists the first is a woman named [00:08:40] vgin lenhard she's ashkanazi Jewish and [00:08:43] reports on the Holocaust and such topics [00:08:45] on French television she said I needed [00:08:48] photos of brijit macron as a young woman [00:08:51] with small children showing an itinerary [00:08:54] outside of those stamped by the best [00:08:56] image agency what doesn't come out is [00:08:59] anything to do with her former life it's [00:09:01] a total [00:09:03] blackout the second journalist is Sylvia [00:09:06] Bame who does portraits in the French [00:09:08] edition of Vanity Fair she said while [00:09:11] conducting her investigation it's like [00:09:13] an episode of Black Mirror where the [00:09:16] president's offices have found a way to [00:09:18] penetrate the brains of his former [00:09:20] acquaintances and erase everything so we [00:09:23] are facing something completely [00:09:25] incredible all these journalists who are [00:09:27] saying let's tell the story of mcon they [00:09:30] find this woman to be something almost [00:09:34] paranormal remind you guys about [00:09:36] American financing because I know the [00:09:37] average person finds it difficult to [00:09:39] keep up with monthly expenses in most [00:09:41] cases there is little left at the end of [00:09:42] the month to cover any extras most [00:09:44] Americans aren't getting a big raise [00:09:46] expenses are up and it is very hard to [00:09:48] manage without using credit cards so if [00:09:49] you're a homeowner and you're frustrated [00:09:51] with that cycle I need you to make a [00:09:52] 10-minute no obligation call today to my [00:09:54] friends in American financing if you're [00:09:56] carrying a credit card balance each [00:09:57] month with a rate in the 20s or or even [00:09:59] the 30s American financing can show you [00:10:01] how to put your hard-earned Equity to [00:10:03] work and get you out of debt their are [00:10:05] salary based mortgage consultants are [00:10:06] saving their customers an average of [00:10:08] $800 a month if you get started today [00:10:11] you may not even have to make next [00:10:12] month's mortgage payments there are no [00:10:15] upfront fees so it costs nothing to find [00:10:17] out how much you could be saving every [00:10:18] month so call American financing today [00:10:20] at 800 7951 1210 again that's 800 7951 [00:10:25] 1210 or visit American financing.net ens [00:10:29] that's American financing.net [00:10:32] ens so these are not conspiracy [00:10:35] journalists these aren't people on [00:10:37] Reddit that are trying to make noise [00:10:39] what you're saying is these people were [00:10:41] well- intended they were interested in [00:10:43] this feminist angle they thought this is [00:10:45] going to be an amazing story to cover [00:10:47] how this woman came to power sort of [00:10:49] like uh doing a profile piece on [00:10:51] Michelle Obama during the Obama years [00:10:53] and they were sort of going wait a [00:10:55] minute where is this person how did this [00:10:58] person come to be I've never seen such a [00:11:00] a black hole and this kind of gets into [00:11:04] maybe something you never thought you [00:11:06] were going to expect here as you were [00:11:07] digging into this you expected probably [00:11:09] some holes in the story but not I guess [00:11:13] what you discovered [00:11:16] [Music] [00:11:18] next so what I do in my job is I archive [00:11:21] things this is what I really enjoy I [00:11:24] like going back into details and back [00:11:26] into history and looking at people's [00:11:28] problems I had a bunch of people around [00:11:30] me my contacts in Paris some mainstream [00:11:33] journalist in the media who were egging [00:11:35] me to say things they said go on this is [00:11:38] what you do this is what I do I take [00:11:41] information and share it when other [00:11:43] journalists cannot and all of a sudden I [00:11:45] came across someone in my informal work [00:11:47] surroundings and he said this is a man [00:11:51] like surely you can see this is a man as [00:11:53] if it was the most straightforward [00:11:55] obvious comment he could make about it [00:11:58] another one of my colleagues colleages [00:11:59] he's a civil servant he calls her Amanda [00:12:02] which is a reference to amandier there [00:12:04] was a similar case it's not well known [00:12:06] in the United States but Amanda leer she [00:12:09] was a somewhat notorious figure she was [00:12:11] amused to Salvador di she was a singer [00:12:14] and a television star she's famous in [00:12:17] France so her biographies were written [00:12:19] and Rewritten and every time they were [00:12:21] Rewritten there were small discrepancies [00:12:23] with dates and [00:12:25] timelines I got the same impression when [00:12:27] I read Brit macron's biography [00:12:29] for example the death of a sister in [00:12:31] 1960 but we later learn it was [00:12:34] 1961 then the death of a niece the [00:12:36] following year but then when we would go [00:12:39] dig for the information we discover [00:12:42] actually in fact she died in [00:12:44] 1966 then she says I bought my house we [00:12:47] bought our house in the Le to in [00:12:50] 1950 we'd then go dig it was actually [00:12:53] 1957 and each time like that the story [00:12:57] is modified so in fact we say to [00:13:00] ourselves what is this thing there was [00:13:02] this element of creating complexity and [00:13:04] confusion in order to essentially hide [00:13:06] the elephant in the room going back to [00:13:09] amandier amandier was born Alain tape he [00:13:13] is very well known today in fact she was [00:13:16] unmasked because at one time in her life [00:13:18] she called herself Peggy from Oslo and [00:13:21] she was actually MC Jagger's drug dealer [00:13:24] so we are still experiencing these very [00:13:26] borderline behaviors my point is this [00:13:29] Avenue of a transsexual Persona has been [00:13:31] created before but it's very dangerous [00:13:34] to try to delve into it because you run [00:13:36] the risk of being branded a Madman who [00:13:39] is this man claiming this absurdity is [00:13:41] he crazy so I was facing that risk I [00:13:45] started talking to my broader Network I [00:13:48] started going to everyone I knew trying [00:13:49] to figure out what was going on because [00:13:51] I knew there was a story here and I [00:13:53] wanted to deepen myself within the story [00:13:56] but the French all in all don't realize [00:13:59] what's going on it's not really on their [00:14:01] radar they're not quite aware as to how [00:14:03] big this is all of a sudden I get a [00:14:06] number from this girl called Natasha Ray [00:14:08] she's just a normal citizen not a [00:14:11] journalist she claims to be able to [00:14:13] prove Brit mcon is a man so we begin to [00:14:17] exchange ideas and work together for a [00:14:19] month and is this the moment when you [00:14:24] were first introduced to I guess the [00:14:27] name the person Jean Michelle trau [00:14:30] because prior to there were essentially [00:14:33] just no pictures of brijit mccon for 30 [00:14:37] plus years of his or her life and was it [00:14:41] Natasha that first brought forth the [00:14:44] name to you Jean Michelle [00:14:50] trno so this is something interesting I [00:14:53] had identified this name in The Archives [00:14:55] of documents found in the commercial [00:14:57] courts I ordered a lot of documents from [00:14:59] the commercial courts called the inpi to [00:15:02] trace companies I was interested in the [00:15:04] trog no and I saw this name appear which [00:15:07] did not appear in the [00:15:08] biographies I realized that Emanuel [00:15:11] mccrone wasn't really selling well to [00:15:12] the public as a Persona he was in [00:15:15] managerial positions and in hedge funds [00:15:18] and the public wasn't really gripped by [00:15:20] this when they decided to create a [00:15:22] presidential candidate they tried to [00:15:23] focus more on the background of brijit [00:15:25] macron's family the trog no family who [00:15:28] are family of chocolateers from Amon [00:15:31] France since it is a family which is [00:15:33] rooted in the real country in the real [00:15:35] economy that is to say they are not [00:15:38] bankers at Rothchilds they don't do [00:15:40] mergers and Acquisitions they make [00:15:43] chocolates they were even compared to [00:15:45] the kennedies in The French [00:15:47] Press at that moment we said to [00:15:50] ourselves why is there this insistence [00:15:52] on each brother each sister each niece [00:15:55] Etc except one jean Michelle trno sham [00:15:59] Michelle was erased and Natasha told me [00:16:01] that a family photo which was supposed [00:16:03] to have brigit on her mother's lap had [00:16:05] been shown to the press and she told me [00:16:07] but look closely at the little boy this [00:16:10] is jeam Mel trno by process of [00:16:13] elimination it is xamel trno and this [00:16:16] hidden brother if you look closely is [00:16:18] actually brigit mccon she was fully [00:16:21] convinced and I thought it's it's very [00:16:24] disturbing it's it's worth [00:16:26] cross-checking [00:16:29] H so in America there's an [00:16:31] expression um we say the dog that [00:16:34] doesn't bark right so what's quite [00:16:36] interesting is this is the dog that's [00:16:38] not barking it's there's all of this [00:16:39] information about all the family members [00:16:42] and you recognize that there's no [00:16:43] information about this family member and [00:16:46] uh that photograph that we saw of their [00:16:49] family in Amon I remember the first time [00:16:52] that I saw that photo because that's [00:16:53] actually what got me involved in the [00:16:55] case it was for me a matter of Common [00:16:58] Sense I just looked at the photo and the [00:17:01] Daily Mail was trying to tell me that [00:17:03] the little girl on the lap was young [00:17:05] brijit and I just looked over to the [00:17:07] left of the photo and I said no I have [00:17:09] two eyes obviously I don't even know [00:17:11] what the theory is but that's clearly [00:17:13] Brit a very distinct face you don't you [00:17:16] can't really change your face well I [00:17:17] guess you can but um it was very [00:17:19] distinct to me so this is sort of um [00:17:22] what Natasha noticed is you're looking [00:17:24] at this family photo you're looking into [00:17:25] Amon you're looking into this [00:17:26] chocolateers and you're noticing that [00:17:28] this [00:17:29] boy on the left you don't know anything [00:17:32] about [00:17:34] whatsoever what happens [00:17:41] next in an article I stated that you [00:17:44] know this is a legitimate question it's [00:17:46] one worth posing why is brigit hiding [00:17:49] parts of her past and why is there such [00:17:51] an unwillingness to speak about Jean [00:17:53] Michelle what really prompted me to [00:17:55] pursue this question was when Natasha [00:17:57] and I started speaking about about this [00:17:59] they detained her on order of a cousin [00:18:02] of Brit mccon Natasha would develop an [00:18:04] in-depth thesis on how Brit mccon is [00:18:07] Jean Michelle trno and who Brit's [00:18:09] children actually belong to we then [00:18:12] realized further that one of the cousins [00:18:14] was trying to set us up by giving us [00:18:16] details which weren't quite accurate [00:18:18] essentially sending us down the wrong [00:18:19] Avenues they tried manipulating Natasha [00:18:22] myself since I relied on this thesis for [00:18:25] information and another reporter as well [00:18:28] into pursuing these false leads perhaps [00:18:30] on order from the Elis and the [00:18:33] government [00:18:35] itself okay so that's fascinating [00:18:37] because and and this was also something [00:18:39] that again I always tell my listeners [00:18:41] just common sense right so I'm just [00:18:43] thinking I'm the first lady of France [00:18:44] I'm Candace if somebody comes to me and [00:18:47] says hey your brother doesn't exist or [00:18:49] your sister doesn't exist I'm going to [00:18:51] take an opportunity to do a press [00:18:53] conference I'm going to stand next to my [00:18:54] brother and I'm going to say conspiracy [00:18:57] theories are harmful let's put this to [00:18:59] bed I wouldn't contact the French [00:19:02] equivalent to the Secret Service and [00:19:05] have them detain a journalist that's [00:19:07] working on a story that instantly Flags [00:19:09] me as very odd so you're saying in [00:19:11] addition to this they're also giving you [00:19:14] misinformation ironically and uh trying [00:19:17] to get you to arrive at the wrong [00:19:19] conclusion so you've got intimidation [00:19:21] and you have misinformation and all [00:19:23] you're doing at this point is [00:19:24] researching you haven't even arrived at [00:19:26] any conclusions but that's probably [00:19:28] making you you feel like what's going on [00:19:31] here unfortunately you guys that is [00:19:33] where we are going to have to cut to the [00:19:34] interview as we said the last time we [00:19:36] spoke with Xavier pussard this our [00:19:38] interview got taken down from YouTube [00:19:40] and we want to play it safe so all of [00:19:41] you can head to Candace ens.com and [00:19:44] watch the interview in its entirety the [00:19:46] rest of the interview for free it's [00:19:48] completely free of charge the topic is [00:19:49] way too important for us to put it [00:19:52] behind a pay wall we hope that you [00:19:54] appreciate the conversation and I can't [00:19:56] wait to speak with you guys about it on [00:19:58] tomorrow tomorrow's show we'll see you [00:20:00] then