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[00:00:00] Amber Rose I am so excited to have you
[00:00:02] here thanks for joining thank you thanks
[00:00:04] for having me so many things that I want
[00:00:05] to say I'm going to try to shut up but
[00:00:07] the first thing that I want to say is I
[00:00:10] was so empathetic watching you at the
[00:00:14] RNC because first and formost your
[00:00:16] speech was amazing and I think everybody
[00:00:18] agreed that your speech was amazing but
[00:00:20] I knew it was going to follow
[00:00:21] immediately after which was sort of this
[00:00:24] purity test because I had lived it
[00:00:26] before so I was in your shoes I guess
[00:00:28] now it's been like eight nine years ago
[00:00:29] and just realized that everything I was
[00:00:31] being told was a lie like I and it was
[00:00:33] specifically started on the BLM stuff
[00:00:35] like on the Black America stuff and
[00:00:38] that's all I said and then my remarks
[00:00:41] went viral I was being invited to all
[00:00:42] these places and I wasn't ready to then
[00:00:46] have my feet held to the fire about
[00:00:48] every single position what is she what
[00:00:49] has she ever said about pro-life what
[00:00:51] has she ever said about this what like
[00:00:52] is she actually a conservative I'm like
[00:00:54] guys I'm just saying what I believe in
[00:00:57] my heart to be true and now you're
[00:00:58] trying to put me through a test right
[00:01:01] and that's exactly what happened to you
[00:01:04] thereafter yeah so I guess the first
[00:01:06] question I just want to ask you is how
[00:01:08] are you doing today I'm wonderful you're
[00:01:11] good yeah this isn't the first time I've
[00:01:13] been cancelled or viral or trending on
[00:01:17] Twitter you know I've been down this
[00:01:19] road several times throughout the years
[00:01:21] so it's kind of just like I I mean I
[00:01:23] slept like a baby this whole week so I'm
[00:01:27] so glad to hear that so how are you
[00:01:29] feeling I guess leading up to the speech
[00:01:30] cuz that's the that's a huge honor to be
[00:01:33] speaking in front of the former
[00:01:35] president and likely future president of
[00:01:36] the United States how are you feeling
[00:01:38] leading up to the speech and immediately
[00:01:41] following it
[00:01:43] so I um I wrote my speech with one of
[00:01:46] the writers that works for Trump right I
[00:01:50] told them everything that I wanted to
[00:01:52] talk about I didn't want to talk about
[00:01:53] the Border I didn't want to talk about
[00:01:55] all that stuff I wanted to just keep it
[00:01:57] like you know I'm a mom I want to talk
[00:01:58] about the economy inflation things like
[00:02:01] that my story how I came over to this
[00:02:04] side and um they wrote something up and
[00:02:07] then I kind of put it into my own words
[00:02:09] and that's what everyone saw at the RNC
[00:02:13] but I I will say Candace I did not think
[00:02:18] anyone would care I'll be honest with
[00:02:21] you I just you know I was just like
[00:02:23] there's so many speakers going up no one
[00:02:26] knows me in the political world you know
[00:02:28] I'm going to go there and honestly the
[00:02:31] whole day before I spoke maybe there was
[00:02:34] like some young girls that were like my
[00:02:35] fans and stuff that wanted pictures but
[00:02:38] other than that no one you know really
[00:02:40] knew who I was
[00:02:42] there and right after that speech boy I
[00:02:45] I've must have taken like 3,000 pictures
[00:02:48] in 4 days wow I promise you it was like
[00:02:52] from the morning into the night
[00:02:54] downstairs in the hotel outside at the
[00:02:56] RNC walking to the RNC cuz you know had
[00:03:00] everything blocked off and stuff um it
[00:03:03] definitely changed my life but I don't
[00:03:04] know for sometimes for me I'm like I'm
[00:03:07] just a girl from Philly why does anyone
[00:03:10] care you know and then I go online and
[00:03:13] everyone's like she's irrelevant no one
[00:03:15] cares about what she has to say no one
[00:03:18] gives a you know and then I'm like okay
[00:03:20] no one gives a let me just go on
[00:03:21] stage and just say how I feel and then
[00:03:24] people give a sh and I'm like but I
[00:03:26] thought they weren't going to give a sh
[00:03:27] yeah so that's what I battle with every
[00:03:29] time I do something like that well I
[00:03:31] knew it was going to be huge for a
[00:03:33] couple of reasons the first and I saw
[00:03:35] this happening as soon as you put on the
[00:03:37] magah hat and there was a clip of you
[00:03:40] TMZ was basically chasing you trying to
[00:03:44] pigeon hole you of like wait you're you
[00:03:46] belong to us like you're you're on the
[00:03:48] left you're the girl from the slutwalk
[00:03:50] and I know how proprietary Hollywood
[00:03:53] gets about if you're in Hollywood if
[00:03:56] we've ever promoted you if we ever put
[00:03:57] you on a magazine cover you get in line
[00:04:00] with these beliefs like you these are
[00:04:03] your political beliefs and you can't
[00:04:04] change so I knew hit in the RNC stage
[00:04:07] which is such a pendulum swing they were
[00:04:09] not going to have that and then I knew
[00:04:11] that conservatives I just don't think
[00:04:13] that they have thought through the
[00:04:15] differences not all conservatives I
[00:04:16] thought the differences between what it
[00:04:18] means to be a conservative what it means
[00:04:19] to be a Republican and what it means to
[00:04:22] be a Christian and they were holding you
[00:04:25] to a test of is she a republican
[00:04:27] Conservative Christian and then we
[00:04:29] reality is tons of people can and do
[00:04:32] vote Republican who are not Christians
[00:04:34] who are not even necessarily fully
[00:04:36] conservatives they're like gay married
[00:04:38] men and they vote because they
[00:04:40] prioritize the economy over their gay
[00:04:43] identity also don't think Donald Trump
[00:04:44] is very conservative
[00:04:47] interesting in what ways um he's
[00:04:50] pro-choice I don't think that's very
[00:04:53] conservative it's definitely not
[00:04:55] Christian so people can say you're
[00:04:57] fiscally conservative and this kind of
[00:04:59] gets it like there needs to be a
[00:05:01] thorough conversation about what it
[00:05:03] means to be a Republican versus a
[00:05:05] conservative versus a Christian and we
[00:05:07] haven't had that and I knew that your
[00:05:08] feet were going to be held to the fire
[00:05:10] was there any comments that before we
[00:05:13] get into like your background and how
[00:05:14] you ended up there that impacted you or
[00:05:16] that you felt upset about that came at
[00:05:18] you or were you just like I'm
[00:05:21] good well I'll be honest with you the
[00:05:23] Matt wall stuff it didn't really bother
[00:05:26] me but it did it did um
[00:05:31] you know people of religious people like
[00:05:33] that is why I went on my atheist
[00:05:37] journey and so I I was a I was a
[00:05:40] Christian my whole life I used to go to
[00:05:42] my mom still goes to church seven days a
[00:05:43] week you know I used to go to church
[00:05:44] with my mom all the time but I used I I
[00:05:47] used to run into people like him often
[00:05:50] and so for me it made me just get turned
[00:05:52] off by the church and then in turn kind
[00:05:56] of go on a spiritual journey I was
[00:05:57] looking into Buddhism I was looking
[00:05:59] looking into Islam which was extremely
[00:06:03] far-fetched for me um and then I landed
[00:06:06] on atheism because I just I just never
[00:06:09] felt comfortable on that side but I I
[00:06:11] will say besides that
[00:06:15] um when I when I showed up at the RNC it
[00:06:18] was there was a lot of white men in
[00:06:22] suits and so I can understand why maybe
[00:06:25] a person of color somebody that comes
[00:06:27] from the left would be intimidated by
[00:06:29] that because that's maybe not
[00:06:32] necessarily the norm that we were used
[00:06:33] to being around but after I did that
[00:06:36] speech Candis I I spoke to so many
[00:06:39] people they were coming up to me telling
[00:06:40] me their stories right and these are
[00:06:44] these are guys that look like they come
[00:06:46] from generational wealth MH and they're
[00:06:49] like oh no I I came from nothing you
[00:06:52] know I I just worked my way up and I
[00:06:55] figured it out or uh one of the other
[00:06:58] guys was like my dad's in prison for
[00:07:00] murder I mean you would think this guy
[00:07:02] was like had a billionaire Daddy he was
[00:07:04] like no my dad's in prison for murder um
[00:07:07] my sister died of fentanyl poisoning you
[00:07:10] know my brother died in the opioid
[00:07:13] crisis and so it just you know I I still
[00:07:16] had that remnants left of the of the
[00:07:18] left in my head where I I have to admit
[00:07:21] when I walked in there I'm like oh my
[00:07:23] God they're going to hate me or they're
[00:07:25] just they're from a different world and
[00:07:28] when I started talking to them I'm like
[00:07:30] we're actually all going through the
[00:07:32] same thing in America right now and you
[00:07:34] can't just judge a book by its cover cuz
[00:07:36] I don't want people to judge me I'm
[00:07:37] actually a sweetheart I'm I I'm not a a
[00:07:40] crazy person or anything like that but
[00:07:43] yeah it was um it was it was really sad
[00:07:46] a lot of people were going through a lot
[00:07:47] and um and thank you you know for
[00:07:51] telling your stories everyone at the RNC
[00:07:54] like you know um and sorry for your loss
[00:07:57] cuz people lost a lot of people um
[00:07:59] to fet and mostly so and it's
[00:08:01] interesting that you say that because
[00:08:02] one of the things I always say to my
[00:08:03] cousin she she does my hair and we talk
[00:08:05] about this a lot I'm like if only people
[00:08:07] in the hood knew that the redneck them
[00:08:09] are the exact same people they're the
[00:08:11] exact same people and yet the media will
[00:08:13] have you thinking like oh the Rednecks
[00:08:15] hate black people like it is actually as
[00:08:19] soon as you get around them I'm like
[00:08:20] they're exactly the same people flipped
[00:08:22] and some of the best people I've ever
[00:08:24] met actually I will say the best people
[00:08:25] I ever met are just from down here in
[00:08:27] the South because they have the right
[00:08:28] values like you know family and faith
[00:08:31] and faith is a big component of it and I
[00:08:33] know what you mean when you say that you
[00:08:34] feel and I it makes me sad to hear that
[00:08:37] cuz I've heard it many times that
[00:08:38] Christians can be really judgmental or
[00:08:40] if you felt that because the reality is
[00:08:43] that there were so many other Christians
[00:08:44] who were not saying that and I messaged
[00:08:47] Matt immediately because I actually know
[00:08:48] Matt Walsh very well I've worked with
[00:08:49] him for years he's actually an amazing
[00:08:51] person and I just felt that you know I
[00:08:53] was actually following him on Instagram
[00:08:56] were you and I unfollowed him after I
[00:08:57] saw that tweet oh my see I I didn't know
[00:09:00] much about him but I saw other people
[00:09:01] following him so I was just trying to
[00:09:03] find a community of people and I I just
[00:09:06] I unfollowed him I'm like oh I guess he
[00:09:07] doesn't like me so that and that is so
[00:09:11] honestly the Tweet was Ill
[00:09:13] representative of Who Matt Walsh is and
[00:09:15] his wife is amazing he I think what he
[00:09:18] was trying to say didn't come across the
[00:09:19] right way cuz I immediately texted him
[00:09:21] and I was just like wait Matt I think
[00:09:23] that like you have you have this wrong
[00:09:25] and I think what he was trying to say
[00:09:27] and I hope I don't I don't sound like
[00:09:29] I'm an apologist from at Walsh obviously
[00:09:31] like and I might be being a little
[00:09:32] catholic gang gang here but I think what
[00:09:34] he was trying to say was something about
[00:09:37] the RNC and like what they're
[00:09:39] prioritizing but I actually even
[00:09:41] disagree with that point too because I
[00:09:43] think that again speaking to like what
[00:09:45] the RNC should be trying to do ahead of
[00:09:47] an election is basically saying are we
[00:09:51] these are the things that we are
[00:09:52] offering like a better economy this that
[00:09:54] and but these are the lies that are told
[00:09:55] about the RNC like people believe that
[00:09:57] Donald Trump is this and I think a part
[00:09:59] of that is kind of trying to disillusion
[00:10:01] people and so I wish you you guys and I
[00:10:04] hope you will in the opportunity have a
[00:10:05] moment to speak because I promise you
[00:10:07] like it's not who he is he's like a
[00:10:09] really good dude and I know I'm good
[00:10:11] though yeah I know I know I feel it I
[00:10:13] know I get it but I'm glad that so many
[00:10:14] other people like responded yeah I had a
[00:10:16] lot of DMS of you know people saying
[00:10:19] that they're you know they're going to
[00:10:20] pray for me that like nice Christians I
[00:10:23] promise he's a nice Christian I promise
[00:10:25] he is that I just it came out I think it
[00:10:27] came out the wrong way but yeah Matt
[00:10:29] does so much charity for Christians and
[00:10:32] he's fought on a lot of causes and again
[00:10:34] I don't want to sound like a Matt
[00:10:34] apologist but I get it I totally get how
[00:10:36] you feel about the it's more so like
[00:10:38] when he's like you know um the walk
[00:10:42] fine the rappers part I you know what's
[00:10:46] so funny K is I I've only been in
[00:10:49] relationships my whole career and I've
[00:10:52] been pigeon
[00:10:54] like do you know in Hollywood if you
[00:10:56] were at the same restaurant as someone
[00:10:59] they will put it on the news that you're
[00:11:01] together you're not at the same table
[00:11:03] you don't know them they're with their
[00:11:05] family you're with your family and
[00:11:07] they'll say we're at the the the hotel
[00:11:11] or the restaurant at the same exact time
[00:11:14] this is what they have done to me
[00:11:15] throughout the years okay so I get it I
[00:11:19] understand this why I'm doing this
[00:11:20] interview I understand why he's like she
[00:11:22] just rappers or she just does this and
[00:11:26] even my
[00:11:27] slutwalk I was really really proud of it
[00:11:30] I hate what it turned into I hated the
[00:11:32] name slutwalk I hate it when girls you
[00:11:35] know which sounds very hypocritical had
[00:11:38] to leave the slutwalk dressed like that
[00:11:41] which was the whole point like don't
[00:11:43] touch me because I'm dressed like this
[00:11:45] you know still respect me cuz I'm
[00:11:46] dressed like a but then when they
[00:11:49] would leave I'd be like this is my
[00:11:50] responsibility I brought them here but
[00:11:53] now I don't want them to go get hurt but
[00:11:55] would that was the whole damn point of
[00:11:57] the walk where I'm not making a
[00:11:58] change change there's nothing I'm not
[00:12:01] making any change for any women right
[00:12:03] now cuz I really want them to go put on
[00:12:05] a blanket and walk home and go be safe
[00:12:06] and cover up hope you guys are enjoying
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[00:13:14] docomond it's actually I actually want
[00:13:16] to talk about the slutwalk and that's a
[00:13:17] great place because we can actually talk
[00:13:18] about your history and some of the
[00:13:19] Judgment that was thrown at you and I do
[00:13:22] want to say this because I have tried to
[00:13:24] communicate this to people who just
[00:13:27] cannot understand why I have any
[00:13:29] sort of a semblance of a relationship
[00:13:31] with Tristan Tate and Andrew Tate and
[00:13:33] they're very big and I just get it I
[00:13:36] think one of the things that happens a
[00:13:39] lot and I I always talk about ali Stucky
[00:13:41] who's this pod Christian podcaster she's
[00:13:43] amazing she's lovely she's basically
[00:13:45] like what you want your daughter to be
[00:13:46] like everything turned out right she
[00:13:47] came from a stable family two Christian
[00:13:49] parents she like loves the Lord and then
[00:13:53] you have someone like Andrew Tate and
[00:13:55] her and him maybe have said things about
[00:13:57] each other what I always say to people
[00:14:00] with the way that my life was how my
[00:14:02] life started I would have never listened
[00:14:04] to Ali suaki like I would have never in
[00:14:07] a million years listened to an Ali sucki
[00:14:10] podcast before I listened to an Andrew
[00:14:12] tap podcast you get what I mean because
[00:14:15] it wasn't which is I'm saying this quite
[00:14:16] ironically it wasn't relatable that's
[00:14:17] the name of her podcast it wasn't
[00:14:19] relatable because I'm like okay you're a
[00:14:21] girl I hope one day that I could raise
[00:14:24] kids like that but I'm going to listen
[00:14:25] to someone who I just feel understand
[00:14:29] things like that I've lived through you
[00:14:31] know what I mean and it's not easy to be
[00:14:34] guided down the right path or to end up
[00:14:36] at Faith immediately and that I think
[00:14:37] that's why an entire generation of kids
[00:14:40] who didn't grow up with two parents in
[00:14:41] the home would rather listen to an
[00:14:43] Andrew Tate and the conservative woman
[00:14:46] does not always understand that and I
[00:14:47] think that that's not a good thing and
[00:14:48] that's why I loved when I heard you just
[00:14:51] say what you believe because I'm like if
[00:14:52] that I I cuz I believed that you
[00:14:54] believed it right and I'm like great now
[00:14:56] we invite her in and talk to her about
[00:14:59] where she's been and what made her wake
[00:15:01] up so starting with the slutwalk because
[00:15:04] I was frantically against the slutwalk
[00:15:06] talked about it many times in my old
[00:15:07] show I'm going to just I know I remember
[00:15:10] oh I was like I was anti slutwalk
[00:15:13] because I felt that women were being
[00:15:15] used to actually make things harder for
[00:15:17] women so I'm going to show you just like
[00:15:19] a cut here for the audience for a clip
[00:15:22] of just some slutwalk footage you're not
[00:15:25] in any of this footage but I just so
[00:15:27] people know what it is okay
[00:15:29] I'm a porn star my name is Lily Cade I'm
[00:15:31] here today because just because I am a
[00:15:33] doesn't mean you can rap me I am
[00:15:35] who I am if you don't like it do the
[00:15:37] word should be reclaimed because
[00:15:38] sex is just something that's fun and
[00:15:40] something that's natural that we do
[00:15:42] we're here to support women's rights and
[00:15:44] to choose what they want to do and
[00:15:46] they're not asking for it just cuz
[00:15:47] they're dressing like this or however
[00:15:48] they choose to dress every time someone
[00:15:51] tried to call me a slot when I was
[00:15:52] younger I was like no no no no I'm not
[00:15:54] I'm not a I'm not a I'm not
[00:15:56] all that finally my 18th birthday comes
[00:15:58] around so I'm like I can do what I want
[00:15:59] now I don't know how to say I'm not a
[00:16:01] dick or bad don't care so when you see
[00:16:04] that and I will granted look and if it's
[00:16:06] funnyish it is funny um how does it make
[00:16:10] you
[00:16:11] feel um a part of it I am not proud of
[00:16:16] another part of it I I I agree with and
[00:16:19] the part that I do agree with is that
[00:16:21] there are a lot of girls in high school
[00:16:24] or college right young girls that are
[00:16:27] literally called derogatory names for no
[00:16:30] reason at all they're not even doing
[00:16:31] anything I was one of those girls I was
[00:16:33] a lay Bloomer my my kids are 11 and four
[00:16:36] I have friends that have like 25 year
[00:16:38] olds so you know I I do think that
[00:16:42] sometimes that is an issue where you
[00:16:46] bully girls because you're insecure or
[00:16:49] maybe she might like another boy or
[00:16:50] something like that so that was one
[00:16:52] piece in there if I'm not mistaken where
[00:16:54] the girl said that but then she said
[00:16:55] dick or badge or whatever who cares or
[00:16:58] something like that um that's the only
[00:17:01] thing I still do agree with but um the
[00:17:04] other stuff I just and you know what
[00:17:07] Candace too listen when it comes to sex
[00:17:10] workers I'm still for sex workers and
[00:17:12] when I say that I mean that I understand
[00:17:16] it's not easy to just say stop don't do
[00:17:19] this anymore you're better than this
[00:17:21] right we can all say that at all day but
[00:17:25] there has to be a solution for why they
[00:17:27] should stop you you know or um maybe the
[00:17:31] money that they did make through sex
[00:17:34] work or the umbrella of sex work like
[00:17:36] stripping and stuff was not actually sex
[00:17:40] um and create businesses for themselves
[00:17:42] or something like that you know so I I
[00:17:46] have empathy for women like that because
[00:17:48] I was I was that girl I never my dreams
[00:17:50] and aspirations in life were not to be a
[00:17:53] dancer um but I grew up poor and my mom
[00:17:58] had mental health issues and you know we
[00:18:01] were homeless when I was really young
[00:18:04] and my neighborhood was drug dealers and
[00:18:06] strippers you know
[00:18:08] so um that was my lifelong dream and
[00:18:11] then when I became
[00:18:13] famous everyone just pointed the finger
[00:18:15] at me and was like you used to be a
[00:18:17] stripper we we remember you you know and
[00:18:21] um and then that made like the whole
[00:18:23] internet and stuff and then I had to
[00:18:24] just live with that and over
[00:18:26] time I uh embraced it with my walk
[00:18:31] because it was the only way to survive I
[00:18:33] was like in survival mode because
[00:18:35] initially I'm like hey guys I grew up
[00:18:38] poor and my and they're like shut up you
[00:18:40] were a stripper shut up you know so I'm
[00:18:43] like okay well no one cares why so what
[00:18:47] else is there left for me to do I have
[00:18:49] to just own it which I think is what CI
[00:18:53] B does often she she has to own it and
[00:18:56] act like she we are have to act like we
[00:18:59] love it see that's so this is very
[00:19:01] interesting so for those who were not
[00:19:03] introduced to Amber Rose before the RNC
[00:19:05] Amber Rose is introduced to the world
[00:19:07] because you were dating Kanye West and
[00:19:09] it years ago 15 years ago and it became
[00:19:11] this big thing Kanye West is is dating a
[00:19:14] stripper and suddenly you became famous
[00:19:16] like basically overnight yeah um and I
[00:19:19] well he didn't know that I was a
[00:19:20] stripper at all oh when he met me I
[00:19:22] didn't know this so the misconception is
[00:19:24] that he met me at the strip club I
[00:19:26] thought that my whole life until right
[00:19:27] now ever met me at the strip club I was
[00:19:30] actually a model I was signed with Ford
[00:19:32] models I got booked for a music video
[00:19:36] called Robocop on 808 and heartbreak
[00:19:39] okay although that album is not about me
[00:19:42] the the My Beautiful Dark Twisted
[00:19:44] Fantasy is about me um that's also
[00:19:46] another misconception that's about his
[00:19:47] ex- fiance so I got booked for a job and
[00:19:52] then we fell in love and we were
[00:19:53] together for like two years um and um it
[00:19:57] was a good time and it was a great time
[00:19:59] in pop culture and we really did have a
[00:20:00] lot of fun for a long time but um yes he
[00:20:03] did not meet me in the strip club so
[00:20:05] when me and him started to get to know
[00:20:07] each other I was like hey I you know I
[00:20:09] just want to be honest because I could
[00:20:10] tell that we have feelings for each
[00:20:11] other I am actually a dancer back in the
[00:20:14] Bronx I Liv in the Bronx at the time
[00:20:16] funny me and cardi worked at the same
[00:20:18] spot just different times cuz I'm older
[00:20:19] than her oh and
[00:20:22] um and uh he was like I don't care I
[00:20:26] just want to be with you I don't even
[00:20:28] care that you work dancer that doesn't
[00:20:29] even bother me you know and um he was
[00:20:32] really great about it he just really
[00:20:34] didn't care cuz I felt like he just knew
[00:20:35] my heart he he knew who I was as a
[00:20:38] person um so yeah so go ahead but that's
[00:20:41] that's how I'm so glad you clarified
[00:20:42] that and so you which is really funny
[00:20:44] because you got branded as a stripper
[00:20:45] when he met you you weren't even
[00:20:46] stripping but they I guess I was
[00:20:48] stripping but he didn't know that I was
[00:20:50] a stripper he didn't know you were a
[00:20:51] stripper so I was a model but I wasn't a
[00:20:54] Bella Hadid I wasn't a famous model I
[00:20:56] just happened to be signed to a big
[00:20:58] agency
[00:20:59] but I wasn't getting a lot of work like
[00:21:00] that so I still had to dance and money
[00:21:02] back to my mom in Philly you know my
[00:21:05] family so so that's why I was still
[00:21:07] dancing in the Bronx but he didn't meet
[00:21:09] me there he met me cuz I booked uh his
[00:21:12] music video got it okay so this is
[00:21:14] literally a case of just I guess
[00:21:16] misconceptions in the media no just
[00:21:18] people pulling stories out of their ass
[00:21:20] and throwing it on the internet and then
[00:21:21] everyone believes it I think people can
[00:21:24] be
[00:21:25] really I don't know I guess unforgiving
[00:21:27] of circumstances can never imagine
[00:21:29] themselves to be in so you kind of hear
[00:21:30] this when they find out like in
[00:21:31] someone's history like this person sold
[00:21:33] drugs or you know this person was a
[00:21:34] stripper or did anything that was to
[00:21:37] them obviously we look at these things
[00:21:40] and we're like this is not a good career
[00:21:42] to go into but they don't understand
[00:21:44] what it means when your back is against
[00:21:46] the wall and what you would do and it's
[00:21:47] unfortunate that the sex industry is
[00:21:49] fast money for people that need it who
[00:21:51] don't come from these circumstances it's
[00:21:53] very unfortunate and I'm glad you
[00:21:55] actually brought up cardi B because so
[00:21:57] much in the media has made it seem like
[00:21:59] I am an enemy of cardi B and I feel like
[00:22:01] I'm actually the only person that ever
[00:22:04] believed in cardi B and uh who truly
[00:22:07] believed in her meaning that she could
[00:22:09] break out of this stripper stereotype so
[00:22:12] I was introduced to her because my
[00:22:14] cousin like made me watch Love & Hip Hop
[00:22:16] and she was a star there's no question
[00:22:18] about it I had never watched love and
[00:22:20] hip hop in my life her and rayj I just
[00:22:21] thought they were both like very
[00:22:23] entertaining in this way and what was so
[00:22:26] enjoyable about her was she was very
[00:22:28] self deprecating she was just like I
[00:22:29] want to work hard and I'm going to make
[00:22:30] it and I believe in myself but she would
[00:22:32] kind of you know point to the things
[00:22:34] that weren't right about herself in the
[00:22:36] same way and that it was very endearing
[00:22:38] and then she kind of makes it when
[00:22:39] everyone's telling her she's not going
[00:22:40] to and she makes some music and I can't
[00:22:43] remember what her was it bodak yellow
[00:22:44] that went viral for the first time and
[00:22:47] suddenly she's in Hollywood and she's
[00:22:49] got tons of followers because people
[00:22:50] liked her personality but then I felt
[00:22:53] like okay now she's going to move on
[00:22:55] from the stripper stereotype she doesn't
[00:22:56] have to be that anymore like her her
[00:22:58] music is boppy that people love her not
[00:23:00] because she's a stripper and actually
[00:23:02] what I felt the industry did was they
[00:23:04] tried to turn her into like the ultimate
[00:23:05] stripper they were like no you're you're
[00:23:07] still you have to be the stripper no
[00:23:08] babe it's not her fault they they don't
[00:23:10] let you they don't let you move forward
[00:23:13] I think this is why like I'm 40 now and
[00:23:17] this is why I don't give a anymore like
[00:23:19] I don't care I'm going to speak at the
[00:23:21] RNC I'm going to speak at my um on my
[00:23:23] Instagram I'm going to say how I feel
[00:23:25] about things and um I'm not going to
[00:23:27] hold back any more because the industry
[00:23:30] does do that to women especially women
[00:23:31] that come from nothing like somebody
[00:23:33] like me and cardi b um they intimidate
[00:23:37] you with the fact that you'll eventually
[00:23:39] be back there with nothing and that's
[00:23:41] how it's been for the 15 years that I've
[00:23:44] been famous and so it's like you have to
[00:23:47] do this you have to twerk on Instagram
[00:23:49] you have to go viral you know um if the
[00:23:52] more followers you get the more
[00:23:54] endorsement deals you get which in turn
[00:23:57] gives you more money to support your
[00:23:58] family who specifically is is with is
[00:24:01] giving you that directive there it's
[00:24:02] everyone it's everyone out there because
[00:24:04] it became a a a culture so now and again
[00:24:09] I don't know cardi personally but I'm
[00:24:11] just looking from the outside in because
[00:24:13] I I lived it
[00:24:15] already I think that her team is
[00:24:17] probably saying look at this other
[00:24:20] female rapper look what she's doing oh
[00:24:22] she just went viral doing that so now
[00:24:24] you got to do something you know raise
[00:24:27] the bar and do something else and so it
[00:24:29] becomes an intimidation tactic where you
[00:24:33] feel anxiety that like it may be over
[00:24:36] for you in a
[00:24:37] second and so even when me and Kanye
[00:24:40] broke up I'll never forget it I mean
[00:24:42] obviously so many years ago but they
[00:24:45] were like your 15 minutes is up it's
[00:24:47] over for you it's done you're never
[00:24:50] going to work in Hollywood again this is
[00:24:52] like the internet and just people
[00:24:55] um I couldn't get a I couldn't get a
[00:24:58] publicist I could nobody wanted to work
[00:25:00] with me um and I was like maybe they're
[00:25:04] right but I just persevered and I
[00:25:07] managed myself for a few years and I
[00:25:10] just I did it by myself and that first
[00:25:13] year uh I made my first million dollars
[00:25:16] in
[00:25:17] 2011 um by myself you know and
[00:25:21] so but even then it's like you go this
[00:25:25] way a little bit and you're happy and
[00:25:26] you're just like finally getting out of
[00:25:28] out of this and then it's like
[00:25:31] hey do you want I don't know a million
[00:25:33] dollars to sign up to only fans there's
[00:25:35] a pandemic everyone might die you know
[00:25:37] you're you you can't really work and
[00:25:39] travel anywhere unless you want to get a
[00:25:40] vaccine
[00:25:42] so is this what you want you're like and
[00:25:45] you're just thinking in your head like
[00:25:47] this money could be gone like what am I
[00:25:48] going to do after this this could be the
[00:25:50] last check that I get yeah so it's
[00:25:52] everywhere the degeneracy is everywhere
[00:25:54] so you're surrounded by that and I was
[00:25:56] telling you on the phone how like um I
[00:25:59] posted that bikini pick like three weeks
[00:26:01] ago I since like archived it on my page
[00:26:03] but I dropped a coin a crypto coin
[00:26:06] called MAA which is great everyone go
[00:26:08] get the MAA coin but um I still fell
[00:26:12] into it Candace because I I'm I was
[00:26:14] telling my team like guys they're like
[00:26:17] well Iggy aelia's coin was doing really
[00:26:19] good and she has her hands on her ass
[00:26:21] and she's like spreading her ass cheeks
[00:26:23] and like you got to at least do a bikini
[00:26:25] picture with maybe like the make America
[00:26:27] great hat
[00:26:28] and you want to make money you want your
[00:26:30] coin to go up like you know and so I'm
[00:26:33] like fine let me go in the backyard by
[00:26:35] the pool and just do it so I still
[00:26:38] battle with those things Candace I and I
[00:26:41] I don't want to get beat up by the
[00:26:42] Republicans I'm already getting beat up
[00:26:44] enough by the left you're basically
[00:26:47] you're in political Purgatory it's the
[00:26:49] worst because when you leave you're like
[00:26:50] I've escaped then when you arrive you're
[00:26:52] like whoa whoa I don't know I know I'm
[00:26:55] not perfect I'm getting everything wrong
[00:26:56] and you're being screamed up by the
[00:26:57] right and it's it's sucks it is it's it
[00:27:00] really sucks because I can just sense
[00:27:02] I'm a person that goes on Vibes my team
[00:27:03] is laughing cuz I literally like I just
[00:27:04] going to Vibe and and but my vibes
[00:27:06] wasn't right and when I spoke to you I
[00:27:08] was like no she means what she says and
[00:27:10] she's going through this metamorphosis
[00:27:12] and it's painful like it is really
[00:27:14] painful to come out of that cocoon
[00:27:15] especially I would imagine it's 10 times
[00:27:17] worse for you cuz your cocoon is
[00:27:18] Hollywood and there's no room there's no
[00:27:21] I mean mine was hard enough just being
[00:27:22] black and being like hey I am like a
[00:27:24] conservative oh I'm no longer black no
[00:27:27] they will take that away I'm I've black
[00:27:28] my whole life but they they were
[00:27:30] instantly like she's not black yeah I'm
[00:27:31] not black anymore apparently so so
[00:27:33] they're they they take that away and
[00:27:34] they denigrate you but it's got to be
[00:27:36] even harder to come out of the Hollywood
[00:27:37] cocoon because the entire industry is
[00:27:41] built around really everyone has to have
[00:27:43] the same perspective everyone has to be
[00:27:45] the same if you want to sign the deals I
[00:27:46] mean I sat down with a Tik tocker super
[00:27:48] young gen Z Tik tocker and he spoke
[00:27:50] about how he was basically told like he
[00:27:52] wanted to do more serious and talk about
[00:27:54] real issues stay out of it you know keep
[00:27:56] doing fun stupid Tik toks because if you
[00:27:59] start talking and you sound conservative
[00:28:01] you're not going to get the sponsorships
[00:28:03] you're not going to get the deals it's
[00:28:05] intimidation right 100% which is crazy
[00:28:08] and what's crazy is that it wakes me up
[00:28:10] at night Candace because I have tortured
[00:28:14] myself for 15 years I've tortured myself
[00:28:18] with this stuff you know and I've begged
[00:28:21] and I've cried and plead it please reach
[00:28:24] for the stars even if go talk to like
[00:28:28] maybe more conservative Brands see if
[00:28:30] they'll give me a chance they wouldn't
[00:28:31] give me a chance you know cuz they just
[00:28:33] didn't know me and I get it I'm not
[00:28:35] upset but um they're like no this is it
[00:28:40] this is this is this is what and you
[00:28:42] know I have a family and so when I went
[00:28:45] out on a Ledge and I posted the picture
[00:28:47] with me Trump and
[00:28:50] Melania that was my moment where I was
[00:28:53] like I'm done like I'm done how did it
[00:28:56] come about like in your mind
[00:28:58] how when did you decide I'm just going
[00:29:00] to post this photo magga goodbye I'm
[00:29:03] with Donald Trump and Melania because
[00:29:04] that obviously became a moment on the
[00:29:06] internet yeah so um my ex-husband
[00:29:10] actually told me to do it whiz whiz did
[00:29:14] he told me to do it yeah although he's
[00:29:16] not political at all and he's not voting
[00:29:19] he's just not in doesn't want to be in
[00:29:21] that world
[00:29:22] whatsoever I you know he's really one of
[00:29:25] my best friends I love him so much still
[00:29:26] to this day he's just such a great
[00:29:28] person but I went to him and I was just
[00:29:31] like I feel like I'm living a lie and I
[00:29:34] feel like and it's so much more than
[00:29:36] Trump but just me as a person I was just
[00:29:37] like I'm so unhappy you know I I'm
[00:29:41] starting to hate everyone and I was
[00:29:43] never like that I was always full of
[00:29:45] love you know and um I just want to be
[00:29:50] me and I don't know how to be me I don't
[00:29:52] know I I don't give a but I don't know
[00:29:55] how to just like bungee jump like once I
[00:29:58] bungee jump I'm good like once I do it
[00:30:00] or like jump out the airplane I'm done
[00:30:02] you know and and I can forever do
[00:30:04] that and I told him that I wanted to
[00:30:06] post a picture he's
[00:30:08] like Amber post
[00:30:11] that he was like post that right now you
[00:30:15] know I'm like for real I should you know
[00:30:17] and he's like he's like do it he's like
[00:30:20] who cares he's like you voting for Trump
[00:30:22] is that what you want to do and I was
[00:30:23] like yeah I'm kind of really into it you
[00:30:26] know and and he's like man do that and
[00:30:30] he put a battery in my back and I was
[00:30:32] like all right I'm going to do it and
[00:30:35] out of 50,000 comments I didn't leave
[00:30:38] one comment under my own page I just let
[00:30:40] everybody just argue with each other
[00:30:42] like just go crazy on each other cuz I'm
[00:30:45] I said what I said it is so freeing I
[00:30:48] just remember when I had that moment and
[00:30:50] it's funny because the world Works
[00:30:52] mysterious ways but I was listening to
[00:30:55] Kanye West's song over and over again
[00:30:58] one when he came out with um gosh I
[00:31:00] can't even think of the name of the song
[00:31:01] he did it 300 style where he talks about
[00:31:03] it's going to be a beautiful death I'm
[00:31:05] jumping out the window I can't think of
[00:31:06] the name of the song um it's one of his
[00:31:08] newer songs no power yes uh oh power
[00:31:11] yeah I was listening to power on repeat
[00:31:14] because I knew cuz that was kind of when
[00:31:16] Kanye got cancelled and then he came
[00:31:17] back and he talked about like really the
[00:31:20] power that has to come from within and
[00:31:22] that end like it's going to be a
[00:31:23] beautiful death I'm jumping out the
[00:31:24] window that idea came to him from the
[00:31:28] movie 300 one of the people that was
[00:31:30] involved in that told me that and it was
[00:31:32] all about I mean that whole song He's
[00:31:34] like fsnl in the whole cast like he's
[00:31:36] basically saying like goodbye to
[00:31:37] Hollywood I'm going to be myself and I
[00:31:39] listened to it over and over I knew I
[00:31:41] was just going to be bullied every day
[00:31:44] people were going to call me Uncle Tom
[00:31:45] Aon but I had listened to so much of
[00:31:48] Kanye's power that I just did not care I
[00:31:50] was like blacking out on Kanye's music
[00:31:53] and you do you have to it has to be that
[00:31:55] battery pack you have to have either the
[00:31:57] voice within yourself behind you to be
[00:31:58] like listen you know what's worse it is
[00:32:01] so much worse to live a life and not be
[00:32:05] yourself like that is a kind of a death
[00:32:07] you know it is I mean I was literally
[00:32:10] like suicidal two years ago and that and
[00:32:14] I spoke about that on Jason Lee's
[00:32:16] podcast um I just could not take it
[00:32:21] anymore just living in a lie and if you
[00:32:25] look at my my record I don't really I
[00:32:28] don't argue with people online like I
[00:32:29] have like two arguments online out of 15
[00:32:32] years of people just going in on me you
[00:32:35] know and so um it does take a toll after
[00:32:38] a while because you just want to scream
[00:32:41] from the rooftops like guys you don't
[00:32:44] know me at all you don't know where I
[00:32:47] come from but a part of me and I don't
[00:32:49] know what that is inside of me that it's
[00:32:52] just like you I don't you don't like me
[00:32:55] I don't even want to explain to you why
[00:32:57] like I don't don't even want to tell you
[00:32:59] like no like me because this is why this
[00:33:02] is like this you know what I'm saying I
[00:33:05] rather just be like well just unfollow
[00:33:06] me then or talk I don't I don't even
[00:33:08] care because people that actually know
[00:33:11] me love me and I'm okay with that right
[00:33:14] and that's where it has to come from and
[00:33:15] and that's why I I love that he says
[00:33:17] it's going to be a beautiful death cuz
[00:33:18] it it's it's a death of Swords but it's
[00:33:20] very beautiful and then once you start
[00:33:22] building it's a real Foundation because
[00:33:25] if every day you have to be someone
[00:33:26] you're not your
[00:33:29] spirit it's in Conflict at all times
[00:33:31] like I you you're basically lying all
[00:33:33] the time you're someone that you're not
[00:33:35] and so when you're able to just be
[00:33:36] yourself and just face the consequences
[00:33:38] of whatever that means to just literally
[00:33:39] be yourself you get to start rebuilding
[00:33:42] the blocks in your life and you get to
[00:33:44] decide like okay this is now a real
[00:33:45] friend because I'm being me and they
[00:33:48] want to be my friend like I am not
[00:33:50] pretending to be something because I
[00:33:52] want magazine covers I'm opport telling
[00:33:54] to be someone I'm not because I'm trying
[00:33:55] to make money and I think that's is and
[00:33:58] I know that you're not on your journey I
[00:34:01] think you will get there eventually but
[00:34:03] what brought me back to Faith is like
[00:34:04] all of that wisdom is in the Bible like
[00:34:06] when it says like you know you can't
[00:34:07] serve you know both money and God right
[00:34:11] and I think that what's happened a lot
[00:34:13] in La is people are serving money
[00:34:14] because there's of course there's an
[00:34:16] anxiety that comes from like well what
[00:34:18] am I going to do if I'm not doing this
[00:34:20] and it makes it harder and harder as as
[00:34:22] those wheels keep spinning and you're
[00:34:24] just the whole industry is around you
[00:34:26] and everything that you're getting
[00:34:26] offered is in the industry like well
[00:34:28] it's also a gamble because it's I I
[00:34:30] really took a gamble by posting Trump on
[00:34:32] my page and endorsing him because
[00:34:36] everyone everyone could have been like
[00:34:37] Matt Walsh every single person there and
[00:34:40] or anybody online you know that was on
[00:34:43] that side could have been like Matt
[00:34:45] Walsh and they weren't they were
[00:34:47] actually very receptive and loving and
[00:34:50] made me feel really accepted at the rnz
[00:34:54] most people did most people were really
[00:34:56] really great to me and they were really
[00:34:58] nice and and I appreciate them very much
[00:35:00] but I really did I took a gamble you
[00:35:04] know by doing that but that was better
[00:35:06] than how I was living
[00:35:07] before so that's just how I felt I mean
[00:35:11] I took the risk and I guess it worked
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[00:36:58] what we're fighting today is like actual
[00:37:00] demons I think there are tons of things
[00:37:01] that contribute to demons and it puts
[00:37:04] your soul at conflict and so I did a
[00:37:06] show um last week where I was talking
[00:37:08] about how many people in the industry
[00:37:10] rappers have spoken out and said that
[00:37:12] they feel like they sold their soul to
[00:37:14] the devil like specifically that
[00:37:16] language or that they were wrestling
[00:37:18] with demons because of what they were
[00:37:19] putting out all the time and I wanted to
[00:37:22] because we talked about cardi B and she
[00:37:24] sometimes has this break online and
[00:37:26] she's crying and I I can't explain to
[00:37:28] you like my heart I just want to hug her
[00:37:30] when I hear it but there's this uh tape
[00:37:33] that's out there of her having one of
[00:37:34] these moments again where she's talking
[00:37:36] about demons and I want you to hear it
[00:37:38] this kind of why I didn't want her to do
[00:37:41] this song shake it or like any drill
[00:37:44] songs
[00:37:47] because it's like these songs are
[00:37:51] activating like these demons that I
[00:37:54] killed you know what I'm saying like I
[00:37:57] don't want to be that girl anymore like
[00:38:01] like I just I just want to be a mother
[00:38:03] you know what I'm saying
[00:38:05] like I don't want to be that old cardi
[00:38:08] anymore I'm not kidding when I say that
[00:38:11] like it makes me want to cry hearing her
[00:38:12] say that literally exactly how I feel
[00:38:16] and I didn't even hear that Candace when
[00:38:18] we first started this interview and I
[00:38:20] can look at cardi and she reminds me of
[00:38:23] myself I know I can watch what she post
[00:38:26] I I've seen other things that she said
[00:38:29] and I'm like that's me all day every day
[00:38:32] she's done Ellen she's done all these
[00:38:34] like um late night talk shows and I've
[00:38:38] seen them they're like so you were a
[00:38:41] stripper she's like I'm an international
[00:38:46] Superstar you know and like that's the
[00:38:48] first thing they go to they do the same
[00:38:51] exact thing to me and and I can tell in
[00:38:53] her voice I've been there yo I promise
[00:38:56] you I've I've I've been there so many
[00:38:58] times and once I set myself free and
[00:39:03] um and now I'm just able to just be who
[00:39:06] I want to be whatever that is even
[00:39:08] moving forward she'll she'll eventually
[00:39:11] get there but she needs to get she needs
[00:39:13] a clean house with her entire team fire
[00:39:16] all those mother get brand new people in
[00:39:19] Period people that are not going to
[00:39:21] intimidate her that it's going to be
[00:39:23] over for her if she doesn't clap her ass
[00:39:26] on Instagram I've been there they've
[00:39:28] done that to me for years like cardi if
[00:39:31] you are listening like you are special
[00:39:34] and you're you don't have to do this if
[00:39:36] you want to be a mom you can still be a
[00:39:38] mom and you can still be a rapper you
[00:39:40] don't have to be a poring rapper you
[00:39:42] don't like and I hear the stuff that she
[00:39:45] says it and I had a walk I get it I
[00:39:48] lived it we we've done the same thing
[00:39:50] you know I think like I yeah I want her
[00:39:53] to know that like she and that's how I
[00:39:54] felt when I was so protective of you
[00:39:57] like when I saw TMZ harassing you like
[00:39:59] to every person you have a right to
[00:40:02] evolve absolutely and the second someone
[00:40:05] tries to pigeon hole you and say you're
[00:40:07] not allowed to evolve that person is
[00:40:09] literally trying to corrupt your spirit
[00:40:13] you you're not they don't want your
[00:40:14] spirit to flourish and they want you to
[00:40:16] only see yourself one way and so when I
[00:40:19] saw that video of her crying and there
[00:40:20] other videos of for crying and that is
[00:40:23] because she has children now and she's
[00:40:26] she's a different stage in her life
[00:40:28] right she was talented not because she
[00:40:31] was a stripper she was a star not
[00:40:33] because she was a stripper when I was
[00:40:35] watching her on Love and& Hip Hop I
[00:40:37] didn't care about the fact that she was
[00:40:38] a stripper she was a star because she's
[00:40:40] a star and I feel no one in her circle
[00:40:42] is telling her that like you do not have
[00:40:44] to do this at all because you will still
[00:40:46] have fans because you're talented
[00:40:48] probably not yeah they're probably not
[00:40:49] Candace they're they've never told me
[00:40:52] they never told me that there was
[00:40:53] another way out just you know what the
[00:40:55] other way out is just be
[00:40:58] yourself it's really it's the easiest
[00:41:00] thing you can do is really just be
[00:41:03] yourself cuz right now in Hollywood
[00:41:05] we're all being someone else we are our
[00:41:09] personas and it's crazy cuz when people
[00:41:11] actually get to know me as a person
[00:41:14] they're like wow you are really nerdy
[00:41:17] you're nothing you're not hypersexual at
[00:41:19] all and um I'm very like traditional in
[00:41:23] a lot of ways you know but life has
[00:41:27] dealt a hand sometimes you know and um
[00:41:33] and that's just how it is but yeah if
[00:41:35] you're if you're just going to be
[00:41:37] yourself it's just the best way to go
[00:41:39] whatever that is I want to talk to you
[00:41:41] about your only fans account because
[00:41:42] there was so much misinformation on the
[00:41:44] web about this when everyone after you
[00:41:46] got kicked in the head by the left then
[00:41:48] the right came in and said no we're
[00:41:49] going to kick you too and look we found
[00:41:51] her and she's on only fans and she's
[00:41:53] literally just doing this because she
[00:41:54] wants a bunch of people to sign up to
[00:41:55] her only fans I was like M I feel like
[00:41:58] there's more to the story cuz the girl
[00:41:59] that I just spoke to on the phone was
[00:42:01] very genuine so can you explain to
[00:42:03] everybody why there wasn't only fans
[00:42:05] account because of course the people
[00:42:07] that were coming at you yeah actually
[00:42:10] had not paid to see whether or not you
[00:42:12] were posting sex content or what was
[00:42:14] happening yeah so I never posted sex
[00:42:17] content I've never done porn in my life
[00:42:20] uh at all um I've never been a
[00:42:22] prostitute in my life I just supposed to
[00:42:24] like really like sexy pictures and stuff
[00:42:26] um
[00:42:28] but um funny enough I I get on Twitter
[00:42:31] I'm not on Twitter as much as I am on
[00:42:33] Instagram which is why I have more
[00:42:35] followers on Instagram but I go on
[00:42:37] Twitter and I'm just like you know the
[00:42:39] RNC just happened and I'm like let me
[00:42:41] see what's if anyone's arguing on
[00:42:43] Twitter and I saw that people were like
[00:42:46] oh she has the only fans and she's
[00:42:47] available right now to
[00:42:49] talk and I'm like no I don't I haven't
[00:42:52] been on only fans in 2 years and so I
[00:42:55] called my assistant Joe and and I'm like
[00:42:58] Joe why does my only fan say that it's
[00:43:00] available now that was supposed to be
[00:43:02] deleted a long time ago I haven't given
[00:43:04] any content or anything like that and
[00:43:07] he's like I don't know let's I call my
[00:43:09] business manager and she's like well you
[00:43:12] know we had this company that was doing
[00:43:14] all the DMS for you and when you said
[00:43:17] you didn't want to do only fans anymore
[00:43:19] they were still doing the DMS and you
[00:43:20] were probably I don't want to see how
[00:43:22] much I was making a month but she was
[00:43:24] like you were still kind of making good
[00:43:25] money every month and you weren't doing
[00:43:29] anything and so I was like you cannot do
[00:43:33] this to me if I told you that I was done
[00:43:35] it should have been deleted two years
[00:43:37] ago I'm not an avid online only fans
[00:43:42] person I'm not going on only fan to see
[00:43:44] if my account is up there and what's
[00:43:45] crazy was actually in my bio and I have
[00:43:48] several links in my bio but you have to
[00:43:51] click a certain link to go to the only
[00:43:54] fans link and I'm My Own persons I don't
[00:43:56] click my own bio you know
[00:44:00] um and it it made me very upset but I
[00:44:02] also didn't fire her because I was like
[00:44:04] I know she was just trying to um I have
[00:44:07] a lot of different streams of Revenue
[00:44:08] that that go into my accounts and stuff
[00:44:10] like that and I know she was trying to
[00:44:11] look out but I'm like don't ever do that
[00:44:13] to me again when I say it's over it's
[00:44:15] over so you hadn't posted any new
[00:44:16] content for over a year two years almost
[00:44:19] I feel like yeah it's it's it's
[00:44:21] definitely been over a year for sure
[00:44:24] residuals coming in via the DM or
[00:44:26] whatever and so they had the service and
[00:44:27] they were like look the money's coming
[00:44:28] in like what's the point of deleting
[00:44:30] this bank account essentially exactly
[00:44:33] okay that makes that makes sense because
[00:44:34] I was realizing I was like has anybody
[00:44:35] actually signed up to see if she's
[00:44:37] posting content or if she just has an
[00:44:38] old only fans way no I have not uh did
[00:44:41] content for only fans and such a long
[00:44:43] time right so I was just as shocked as
[00:44:46] everyone else on Twitter when it was
[00:44:48] like a available now on only fans and
[00:44:51] I'm like and they put a sale up I mean
[00:44:53] it's embarrassing you do really hear a
[00:44:56] lot of this in the industry the more
[00:44:58] that I speak to people and it's funny
[00:45:00] because I keep going back to Kanye but
[00:45:02] you know he said so much to me that I
[00:45:06] couldn't even comprehend a couple of
[00:45:07] years ago about what's going on in
[00:45:09] Hollywood and I think that he senses the
[00:45:11] demonism and I think he really wanted
[00:45:12] out like I think everyone was like
[00:45:15] what's he doing he's blowing up his life
[00:45:16] I was like no I think he literally wants
[00:45:17] to blow up his life he he doesn't want a
[00:45:19] pathway back to Hollywood because he has
[00:45:22] seen it up close and he thinks that a
[00:45:24] lot of elements of it are demonic and
[00:45:26] the more that you speak to people in the
[00:45:28] industry like hearing you say that
[00:45:29] there's this pressure like if you want a
[00:45:31] book you got to this is what you have to
[00:45:33] do here's what you have to do it does
[00:45:35] make you wonder why it got to be like
[00:45:37] this you know what I mean like it how
[00:45:39] many times I've been offered a tell all
[00:45:41] book about Kanye and my relationships or
[00:45:45] my ex-husband and I refuse to do it
[00:45:48] Candace I will never ever ever sell out
[00:45:51] like that and I've been offered a lot
[00:45:54] you know and I I've I've I've taken
[00:45:56] punches
[00:45:57] because um I choose to do other things
[00:46:00] instead of doing something like that cuz
[00:46:03] I feel like if even if I didn't we
[00:46:05] didn't work out in a relationship it
[00:46:08] doesn't mean that I didn't love you
[00:46:09] while we were together so um I wouldn't
[00:46:13] do that but that's how Hollywood is it's
[00:46:15] like oh you're not with uh so and so
[00:46:17] anymore you want to write a book you
[00:46:20] know and I was like bro I'll never go
[00:46:22] out like that hell no no matter what I
[00:46:25] won't do that but that's that's how it
[00:46:27] is that's how it is in Hollywood for
[00:46:29] sure yeah they're they're constantly
[00:46:31] especially amongst women it's it's all
[00:46:33] about sex and I'm a person that I think
[00:46:36] that the contributions that the
[00:46:38] Kardashian family has made for women
[00:46:41] have been and I'm not placing it
[00:46:43] squarely on them but I just vividly
[00:46:47] recall a shift in culture you know after
[00:46:49] the Kardashian show where I think
[00:46:52] women I don't know just kind of
[00:46:54] saw sex on display all the time it was
[00:46:57] like the number one show for a very long
[00:46:58] time and and people began to Aspire like
[00:47:01] to glorify it in a way and that might
[00:47:03] also just be the timing of the explosion
[00:47:04] also of social media and they kind of
[00:47:06] like I would say Kim kind of became like
[00:47:08] the queen of Instagram in many ways and
[00:47:10] people wanted to start embodying that
[00:47:12] and holding that up as like a form of
[00:47:13] idolatry like this is what we should be
[00:47:15] like women should be sexy all the time
[00:47:18] and at the same time you had other
[00:47:20] movements that were taking place in in
[00:47:21] different ways like of this modern
[00:47:23] feminism that I hate so much because I
[00:47:25] think that if
[00:47:28] it operates or it tries to sell itself
[00:47:30] as Freedom right we're doing this
[00:47:32] because we're free but in reality women
[00:47:35] are enslaved by it because it then
[00:47:37] becomes the only contribution that you
[00:47:39] have like if you want to be heard you
[00:47:41] need to take your clothes off like if
[00:47:42] you want people to listen to you you
[00:47:43] need to take your clothes off and I'm
[00:47:44] like that is bondage that is not that's
[00:47:47] not actually Freedom yeah no I agree um
[00:47:51] which is crazy because I think that
[00:47:53] people just thought I was just dumb or
[00:47:56] just like good a dumb stripper and um
[00:47:59] they didn't know that I was going to be
[00:48:01] as well well spoken as I was at the RNC
[00:48:04] and
[00:48:05] um you know um you're right it's just
[00:48:09] like that and it's unfortunate and it's
[00:48:12] something that a lot of women in the
[00:48:13] industry are are still living with so I
[00:48:16] hope that they I don't know maybe see
[00:48:18] our interview
[00:48:20] together and they just say you know what
[00:48:23] let me just be myself whatever that is
[00:48:26] instead of falling into Hollywood
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[00:49:39] those young women like these women who I
[00:49:41] say are like on the whatever podcast and
[00:49:44] I hear them and they're pretending they
[00:49:45] love what they do and I'm like you don't
[00:49:46] love what you do you do not love like I
[00:49:48] a cross woman who said that she can
[00:49:50] sleep with you know 12 men in one night
[00:49:53] and how much money she makes how much
[00:49:54] money she makes and I looked at her and
[00:49:55] I just thought I told I was going to
[00:49:57] pray for her like literally I'm going to
[00:49:58] pray for you cuz I know that what you
[00:50:00] are saying is not true but you need to
[00:50:02] say it so that you have like so you can
[00:50:04] keep doing it you know well yeah it's
[00:50:06] it's she's saying it because the men
[00:50:09] that pay her want to hear that she has
[00:50:11] to still stay within the fantasy you
[00:50:14] know what I mean and so like let's say
[00:50:16] if you have an only fans and stuff and
[00:50:18] you get on the whatever podcast you're
[00:50:20] like actually I'm a good girl I've never
[00:50:22] done porn in my life I'm really smart
[00:50:25] and like I I just just kind of just talk
[00:50:27] to these guys to make money but I
[00:50:29] never do anything the guys are going to
[00:50:31] be like I'm never paying this girl any
[00:50:32] money ever again so you have to go on
[00:50:36] those podcasts essentially and say yeah
[00:50:39] you know I had sex with 12 guys and like
[00:50:42] you know maybe the guys are like cucks
[00:50:44] that that give them money you know and
[00:50:46] they like to hear things like that and
[00:50:47] they're like oh you said what I wanted
[00:50:49] you to say on the whatever podcast now
[00:50:52] I'm going to send you
[00:50:53] $1,500 that's how those things work
[00:50:57] I will tell you doing slutwalk and
[00:50:59] talking to a lot of women and sex
[00:51:02] workers 99% of sex workers do not want
[00:51:06] to be sex workers and that's porn
[00:51:10] prostitution stripping only fans all of
[00:51:13] the above they don't want to do it and
[00:51:16] I'll leave the 1% for girls that want to
[00:51:18] argue with me online about how much they
[00:51:20] love porn or
[00:51:22] whatever I've talked to thousands of
[00:51:24] girls throughout the years no body wants
[00:51:27] to do that but the the problem is is
[00:51:30] that like we were saying upstairs the
[00:51:34] feminism turned women masculine men beta
[00:51:38] and now what happened is is that
[00:51:42] um these girls have masculine energy and
[00:51:45] the the guys are still beta they they
[00:51:47] the guys also tell the
[00:51:49] girls no one's ever going to marry you
[00:51:52] you're damaged goods There's No
[00:51:55] Redemption you know you're never going
[00:51:57] to figure this out you might as well
[00:51:58] just give up on life and so that doesn't
[00:52:01] actually help the girls either say
[00:52:03] they're just like well I might as well
[00:52:05] just stay in it no one's ever going to
[00:52:06] love me
[00:52:07] anyway um and so it's a vicious cycle
[00:52:10] and that's why you know people getting
[00:52:13] married like marriage rates are down and
[00:52:15] divorce is up and um we just can't get
[00:52:19] along with each other right I totally
[00:52:21] agree yeah you and I have tons of
[00:52:23] disagreements like I said you're in your
[00:52:25] early phase and but I was there I I
[00:52:28] vividly recall sitting across from Dave
[00:52:29] ruin and I hadn't had it all figured out
[00:52:32] and I just knew I disagree with that one
[00:52:33] thing and I now am probably considered
[00:52:37] far right I guess I mean I'm as right as
[00:52:39] I could possibly be on a lot of the
[00:52:41] issues because it was like it was like
[00:52:42] peeling back an onion I was like this
[00:52:44] isn't true and then I was like oh wait
[00:52:45] this isn't true and this is how feminism
[00:52:47] plays into this and plays into this and
[00:52:49] this is how this plays into this and
[00:52:50] then finally I just was like I am a
[00:52:52] Christian that's like Bible based and
[00:52:57] because the Bible always had the answers
[00:52:58] I was looking for but I want to talk
[00:53:00] about some things that we disagree with
[00:53:02] because I want people to know that this
[00:53:04] isn't an act like this is not an act
[00:53:05] you've said what you believe and you
[00:53:07] don't like it's not like you're checking
[00:53:08] boxes and just saying stuff that you
[00:53:10] would expect a Christian Conservative
[00:53:12] Republican to say we disagree on trans
[00:53:15] stuff I think do we I don't know I think
[00:53:17] we do okay yeah where where are you at
[00:53:20] on like the trans I call it the trans
[00:53:22] agenda uh the explosion of
[00:53:24] transgenderism I guess we could say yeah
[00:53:26] so so um I grew up in the ballroom scene
[00:53:28] I don't know if you know what that is in
[00:53:29] the gay trans world I have no idea what
[00:53:32] that is okay so it's like it's mostly a
[00:53:34] lot of people at the time that um their
[00:53:38] families didn't really necessarily
[00:53:39] accept them and so they created families
[00:53:42] within that Community um and they named
[00:53:44] those families different things and they
[00:53:46] were called houses right um and so I was
[00:53:49] in a house when I was younger my best
[00:53:51] friend was like a gay boy he was like 13
[00:53:53] or whatever and I was surrounded by
[00:53:55] actual trans people now back in that day
[00:53:59] which is the '90s
[00:54:01] 2000s
[00:54:03] um let's say a trans girl would get an
[00:54:06] attitude with me the other trans girls
[00:54:09] that were my friends would be like
[00:54:11] you're a man don't do that to Amber like
[00:54:13] you're a man I'm a man me and you can
[00:54:15] fight but you're not going to touch her
[00:54:17] so those are the trans women that I'm
[00:54:19] used to being around that I grew up with
[00:54:21] right um and it was kind of shady to
[00:54:23] call like a trans girl man but they
[00:54:24] would do that so here's the thing am I
[00:54:29] for gender affirming care for children
[00:54:31] absolutely not I think we share that
[00:54:34] same sentiment um am I for a gender
[00:54:37] affirming care for consenting adults
[00:54:41] absolutely now do I think that a lot of
[00:54:44] people on Tik Tok and
[00:54:46] Instagram um are actual trans people a
[00:54:51] lot of them are not they're cosplaying
[00:54:53] and they want to be a part of a
[00:54:54] community they want attention
[00:54:57] um are trans people real yes they're
[00:54:59] very much real um and I think that those
[00:55:03] other people give the trans Community um
[00:55:07] a bad name because they really just and
[00:55:11] I'm sure Candace that you've been in the
[00:55:13] bathroom with trans people probably
[00:55:15] plenty of times just didn't even know
[00:55:16] because they just went to use the
[00:55:18] bathroom and no one cared and they
[00:55:19] washed their hands and they left the
[00:55:21] problem is is that there's literally
[00:55:24] grown biological men with mustaches and
[00:55:27] beards with you know shaving in the
[00:55:29] women's locker room um not even remotely
[00:55:33] close to transitioning into a trans
[00:55:36] woman and they make women feel
[00:55:38] uncomfortable in women's spaces I'm not
[00:55:40] for that at all you know but I think
[00:55:42] like someone like Danielle for an
[00:55:44] example that's very far in her
[00:55:46] transition um and she has a full sex
[00:55:49] change by the way I think she
[00:55:51] understands that she is a biological
[00:55:53] male but for me I I would call her she
[00:55:57] her I I would just do that because she
[00:56:00] looks like a girl and she's so far into
[00:56:02] her transition with the breast and the
[00:56:03] softness in the face that I I wouldn't
[00:56:06] be dis
[00:56:07] disrespectful although um I think she
[00:56:10] does understand that she is a biological
[00:56:12] male so that's where I'm at with and I'm
[00:56:14] also and I'm also for gay
[00:56:16] marriage I think the more love that we
[00:56:19] have especially in America cuz it's
[00:56:21] really um The Happy The happier we would
[00:56:25] all be so I think that and a lot of
[00:56:28] white gay male couples adopt a lot of
[00:56:32] young black children that are that grow
[00:56:34] up in foster care because they always
[00:56:35] say that the black boys are last to be
[00:56:37] picked I'm a mother of two black boys
[00:56:40] and um my father was also in foster care
[00:56:43] for most of his life and I think that um
[00:56:47] I think that you know it gives these
[00:56:49] kids an opportunity to go to a good
[00:56:51] school and have a good life even if it
[00:56:54] is Two Dads yeah so I think think and I
[00:56:58] disagree with a lot of that almost all
[00:56:59] of it almost all of it actually and I
[00:57:02] think sometimes the mischaracterization
[00:57:04] is that conservatives don't view people
[00:57:08] who are trans as people they're people
[00:57:10] they're absolutely people I just in the
[00:57:12] same way that I would not if someone who
[00:57:14] was schizophrenic told me they were
[00:57:15] Superman I wouldn't play the role with
[00:57:18] them you know because I because they're
[00:57:20] not children agree with you with that
[00:57:21] yeah they're they're not a child you're
[00:57:23] an adult so if I'm going to play Fantasy
[00:57:26] going to play Fantasy with my children
[00:57:28] who are toddlers but I I'm not going to
[00:57:30] do it with an adult because I think
[00:57:31] that's part of the issue is that it's
[00:57:33] now become so commonplace and you're
[00:57:36] they're basically saying I'm the same as
[00:57:38] you and you have to return I'm the same
[00:57:39] as you and I'm like actually you're not
[00:57:41] the same as me they're not and I don't
[00:57:43] want you to suffer because I think
[00:57:44] you're already suffering I actually
[00:57:47] believe especially for a lot of these
[00:57:48] people and I've sat across from uh
[00:57:50] multiple people that are suffering with
[00:57:52] transgenderism and one person especially
[00:57:55] if they're very young and they go
[00:57:56] through these procedures too young had
[00:57:58] their entire life ruined and he looked
[00:58:00] across from me Brianna Ivy and said I
[00:58:02] just wish somebody had said to me like
[00:58:04] you're not this instead of being H
[00:58:06] having Hollywood glamorize this and put
[00:58:07] Caitlyn Jenner on exact same thing
[00:58:09] you're talking about they make it look
[00:58:10] it's going to be so amazing you're going
[00:58:11] to be so happy and in reality you can
[00:58:13] get on this path and there's you can't
[00:58:14] go backwards once you get to a certain
[00:58:16] point and he had the bottom surgery and
[00:58:18] he was like I don't know I found well
[00:58:20] they they Fast Track these young kids
[00:58:22] they FastTrack them they cut their
[00:58:23] breast off um they give them this the
[00:58:26] gender assignment surgery um I actually
[00:58:30] agree with you Candace when it comes to
[00:58:31] that um trans women are not women
[00:58:34] they're not real women but they are
[00:58:35] trans women and I'm I'm okay with that
[00:58:39] term um but they are not or ever going
[00:58:41] to be biological women so and I think
[00:58:43] when it comes to gay marriage and it's
[00:58:45] that again gets into my perception which
[00:58:47] is so much further like eight years
[00:58:50] along of looking into everything I just
[00:58:52] know that the nuclear family is what has
[00:58:55] always been under attack and they just
[00:58:56] keep trying to stop a man and a woman
[00:58:59] coming together getting married and
[00:59:00] having kids like that if you look at
[00:59:02] every single one of these what I would
[00:59:03] describe as leftist positions it's
[00:59:05] always an attack on the family even
[00:59:06] climate change like how do we get there
[00:59:08] they're telling kids not to get married
[00:59:09] or have kids because the planet's going
[00:59:10] to be over in 10 years when you think
[00:59:12] about transgenderism they're editing
[00:59:14] their parts in a way they will never be
[00:59:15] able to have productive families gay
[00:59:17] marriage is obviously not a nuclear
[00:59:19] family you cannot have children the
[00:59:20] Natural Way feminism is poisoning
[00:59:23] women's perspective on there's a lot of
[00:59:24] children that need homes sure but there
[00:59:26] are a lot of nuclear family mother and
[00:59:29] fathers who would adopt them and so and
[00:59:32] I believe kids need as we were talking
[00:59:33] about they're best advantaged when they
[00:59:36] have a two parent home a mom and a dad
[00:59:39] and I agree with you that being wardens
[00:59:42] of the state you know you don't you
[00:59:44] don't want kids to be wens of the state
[00:59:45] I I grew up with a mother who spent time
[00:59:46] in a group home I get that too but I
[00:59:49] just think that there's this like person
[00:59:51] this purposeful attack on just that
[00:59:54] normal family structure because when you
[00:59:56] have an family structure you have
[00:59:59] virtually every advantage in life yeah I
[01:00:01] think that's an ideal situation right
[01:00:03] that would definitely be the ideal
[01:00:05] situation
[01:00:06] but gay people can definitely go and
[01:00:09] help out in the Foster system and adopt
[01:00:12] children and give them a better life as
[01:00:13] well so I agree with you that that may
[01:00:16] be a more ideal situation but I still
[01:00:18] think that two gay men can give a a kid
[01:00:21] a great home and um a great education I
[01:00:24] remember listening to this podcast by by
[01:00:26] the way with you and Emily rowski and
[01:00:28] she was saying and I was just like why
[01:00:31] are we doing this she was talking about
[01:00:32] her son daughter I don't remember I
[01:00:34] don't remember which one she has uh I
[01:00:36] think a son maybe a son and I think she
[01:00:39] was saying that she intentionally buys
[01:00:40] him like girl toys because she wants him
[01:00:43] to not think of things in terms of
[01:00:45] gender and that is so Hollywood to me
[01:00:48] like I'm like okay if a guy wants to go
[01:00:50] be a guy that's what I mean about
[01:00:51] intentionally perverting stuff cuz I'm
[01:00:53] just like what is the problem like my
[01:00:55] boy is so different from my girl you
[01:00:57] have do you have both sexes boy and a
[01:00:59] girl I have two boys two boys okay so
[01:01:00] you know how they are they are like see
[01:01:02] well so I I would never buy my boy's
[01:01:04] girl toys but if they were around the
[01:01:07] little girl and her toy happens to be
[01:01:09] there and my two three-year-old or
[01:01:11] four-year-old would pick it up and play
[01:01:12] with it I wouldn't say that's for girls
[01:01:14] yeah I would just it's a toy and they're
[01:01:16] young but I was I was so disturbed by
[01:01:18] that I was just going why is she trying
[01:01:20] to force him to be confused cuz she said
[01:01:22] something like oh he instantly
[01:01:24] gravitates towards the boy toys and I'm
[01:01:26] like no play with the doll I'm I'm
[01:01:28] totally no she didn't say that she
[01:01:30] didn't say this to you what did I say
[01:01:32] you just said something like yeah I get
[01:01:34] I don't remember what you said you just
[01:01:35] were kind of like nicely agreeing but
[01:01:37] I'm going why why are we doing this why
[01:01:39] do we have to corrupt everything's
[01:01:42] natural everything's normal and actually
[01:01:43] she's admitting that there's a
[01:01:45] difference here like and because there
[01:01:46] is such a difference the boys are wild
[01:01:49] yeah no you didn't you weren't saying
[01:01:50] that you did it too but she was just
[01:01:51] kind of remarking in how she's trying to
[01:01:53] tell him to play with pink stuff and I
[01:01:55] was going what is wrong with Hollywood
[01:01:56] like why can't they why is there almost
[01:01:58] like a I feel like there's a hatred for
[01:02:00] normal like there's just a hatred for it
[01:02:02] and and I think it's part of the the
[01:02:04] school and the education system sort of
[01:02:07] teaching us that there is something
[01:02:09] wrong with normal and that's what I was
[01:02:10] saying to you about when you grow up you
[01:02:12] have this perception of like the South
[01:02:13] as being backwards and racist and people
[01:02:16] that love the Bible and like go to
[01:02:18] church and like what we should all
[01:02:20] aspire to be is like New York and la and
[01:02:22] they're shipping their lattes and
[01:02:23] they're Progressive but I've now gotten
[01:02:25] to a point where I've realized that it's
[01:02:27] actually the opposite and the people in
[01:02:28] the South that are being lied about and
[01:02:30] this the people that you met and that
[01:02:31] you're talking about at the RNC where
[01:02:33] you're hearing their stories they're
[01:02:35] like the salt of the earth like they are
[01:02:37] they were great I'm not going to lie I'm
[01:02:39] not going to lie they were really really
[01:02:41] great people and super nice and I I
[01:02:45] didn't growing up in Philly I grew up in
[01:02:47] a predominantly black City you know and
[01:02:49] a black neighborhood and so I've never
[01:02:52] really seen white people like that that
[01:02:55] that type of white people you know Amber
[01:02:57] Rose has never seen white people until
[01:02:59] the r i my dad is white but he's you
[01:03:03] know and and that's the thing too East
[01:03:05] Coast white people are very different
[01:03:06] than down south white people um you know
[01:03:09] cuz they're more like darker white like
[01:03:10] Italians Greeks and stuff up on the east
[01:03:13] coast and stuff like that it's it's a
[01:03:15] different type of white Candace I know
[01:03:17] you know what I'm saying know exactly
[01:03:18] what you're saying Okay cool so like
[01:03:19] these guys were like super white like
[01:03:21] blonde hair blueeyed like white white
[01:03:24] people um
[01:03:26] I'm totally cutting that for the
[01:03:27] internet like white white people you
[01:03:30] know what I mean I totally don't I'm not
[01:03:33] saying it like that but I will say that
[01:03:37] again we all have the same problems we
[01:03:40] all have family members on drugs we all
[01:03:43] have problems within our families and
[01:03:45] turmoil and um stories to tell you know
[01:03:50] and so we're all kind of in the same
[01:03:51] boat as far as that goes yeah yeah
[01:03:53] you're I know exactly what you mean and
[01:03:55] it is surprising and I just want to say
[01:03:58] this because I know that so many
[01:03:59] Christians are ready reach out to you
[01:04:00] and have said this that they're praying
[01:04:01] for you me and my husband are literally
[01:04:02] praying for you because I I just have a
[01:04:05] feeling it's a Vibe my team again will
[01:04:07] make fun of me I'm A vibe girl okay but
[01:04:09] I just think that God even though you're
[01:04:12] saying you're an atheist there's no such
[01:04:13] thing as an atheist there are different
[01:04:15] churches and there and at some point I
[01:04:18] think your faith was in Hollywood and it
[01:04:20] you just converted away from God to
[01:04:21] something else and it becomes feminism
[01:04:23] it becomes climatism whatever it is I
[01:04:26] think that this moment because I've been
[01:04:27] feeling the Holy Spirit moving Russell
[01:04:29] bran being drawn like this is a guy who
[01:04:31] was in Hollywood who is now praying the
[01:04:33] Rosary every day and I spoke to him and
[01:04:35] he just said he just felt something
[01:04:37] moving and he realized and he's so well
[01:04:41] positioned to speak about it because he
[01:04:42] came from Hollywood and he was an addict
[01:04:44] and they loved him when he was an addict
[01:04:46] and then he cleaned up his life yeah and
[01:04:48] then he cleaned up his life got married
[01:04:50] had kids and start speaking about Jesus
[01:04:52] Christ and they're like get the heck out
[01:04:53] of here we will ruin you and I just feel
[01:04:55] it for you like I think that everything
[01:04:59] you went through God wanted you to go
[01:05:01] through that he wanted you to to believe
[01:05:04] that he wasn't there like you know like
[01:05:05] he wanted you to question whether or not
[01:05:09] any of it's real and now it's because
[01:05:13] you're going to be such a voice for all
[01:05:15] of the young women that are watching
[01:05:17] this who are on only fans who are giving
[01:05:20] themselves who are crying at night who
[01:05:22] are drinking to be able to go through
[01:05:24] with prostituting their bodies a lot of
[01:05:26] these only fan girls that I who also
[01:05:27] Moonlight and they prostitute and they
[01:05:30] feel that they can never be anything
[01:05:32] else and I think you are set up to be
[01:05:35] something else so that they know that
[01:05:39] it's possible I genuinely believe that
[01:05:41] yeah I I want to figure out something
[01:05:43] for these girls
[01:05:45] um some type of nonprofit something to
[01:05:49] help something I want to figure it out I
[01:05:51] I have to figure it out um maybe I could
[01:05:53] work with something that's already
[01:05:55] available able so I don't have to start
[01:05:57] anything by myself again but it has to
[01:05:59] be done in a certain way so we we'll
[01:06:01] we'll see interrupting again because I
[01:06:04] know that so many of you guys work so
[01:06:05] hard to support yourself and your
[01:06:07] families but it seems as though you're
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[01:06:58] ens I also think you should have a
[01:07:01] podcast to talk to these people and like
[01:07:04] I said I'm I feel like I'm going to see
[01:07:05] you in four years and you're going to be
[01:07:07] like I'm a Christian read my Bible
[01:07:09] you're saying no but I'm telling you
[01:07:12] when the Holy Spirit he's the holy
[01:07:13] spirit's already moving with you just
[01:07:14] don't see it and if somebody said to me
[01:07:15] when I had first I I was always I was
[01:07:17] like yeah I'm a Christian but it's
[01:07:19] different now like I'm on I'm like on
[01:07:20] fire for the Lord I really am and I you
[01:07:23] know what I'll say this I wish that I
[01:07:24] wish I was
[01:07:26] I'll say that I wish that I was I missed
[01:07:28] the feeling of the Comfort I had from
[01:07:31] God um but I don't believe in God I just
[01:07:34] don't and I don't know if I can go back
[01:07:37] to that because um o on my journey to
[01:07:42] atheism a lot of times was mostly just
[01:07:45] my mom saying just scaring the living
[01:07:48] out of me when it comes to God and
[01:07:50] demons and being a kid and saying we got
[01:07:53] generational demons on our bag this
[01:07:55] whole family we got generational demons
[01:07:58] and I'm like dude I don't want a demon
[01:08:00] on my back I don't want a demon around
[01:08:02] me like I don't have demons you can have
[01:08:04] demons my aunt can have demons my uncle
[01:08:06] can have demons I don't have demons and
[01:08:08] that for me was far too much as a child
[01:08:13] which in turn made me an atheist it's
[01:08:16] just too much for me Candace I'm telling
[01:08:17] you I'm these are going to be your
[01:08:19] famous last words because I'm telling
[01:08:21] you when you when you go different path
[01:08:22] it's all too much for me it all starts
[01:08:24] with realizing one lie and you realize
[01:08:25] that there's only one author of lies and
[01:08:27] that's Satan and there's only one author
[01:08:28] of truth and that's God see I don't
[01:08:29] believe Satan is real I don't believe
[01:08:31] Satan is a thing well you just you were
[01:08:33] up close and personal with him in
[01:08:34] Hollywood like that like what you're
[01:08:36] hearing when when you hear CI talking
[01:08:38] about I said goodbye to these demons
[01:08:40] like she just is not realizing that's
[01:08:42] real demons like I mean I resignate with
[01:08:44] that figuratively but it's not
[01:08:46] figurative she's wrestling with real
[01:08:47] demons right and and they want you to
[01:08:49] think it's figurative and I don't even
[01:08:52] have to argue with this because I know I
[01:08:53] just know how the holy spirit moves like
[01:08:55] like I'm just
[01:08:56] like just there was something pray and
[01:08:59] prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed
[01:09:01] and my prayers were not answered you
[01:09:04] don't think when I was a Christian you
[01:09:06] don't think your prayers were answered
[01:09:08] somebody said to me God never doesn't
[01:09:11] answer your prayer he either says uh not
[01:09:14] right now or I have something better in
[01:09:16] store for you maybe maybe God answered
[01:09:18] my prayers by all this that's what I'm
[01:09:20] saying sure I'm telling you I think he
[01:09:23] was like not right now and I'm sorry to
[01:09:26] have to turn into a pastor right now but
[01:09:27] I so let me ask you a question if I was
[01:09:29] Hindu or Muslim you would still say the
[01:09:31] same thing I'm Christian I want
[01:09:32] everybody to Believe In Christ yeah
[01:09:35] Christ is the Lord Christ is the savior
[01:09:38] and you like I said I remember feeling
[01:09:41] like that and when I was like well if
[01:09:44] God was real he wouldn't allow this to
[01:09:45] happen to me he wouldn't allow this to
[01:09:47] happen to me and then when I open myself
[01:09:48] up and realized I'm like he put me in
[01:09:51] that scenario because he knew that I
[01:09:52] would be able to speak on this he wanted
[01:09:54] me to go through this negative and this
[01:09:56] negative because he knew that this was
[01:09:58] the ultimate equation and he's the great
[01:09:59] mathematician and he was like you need a
[01:10:01] plus here minus here minus here and
[01:10:02] minus here and so when you're hitting
[01:10:04] and you're seeing all these negatives in
[01:10:05] your life you're just like well God
[01:10:06] can't be real because why would he do
[01:10:09] that and then when you let go I wish I
[01:10:12] had what you had no but I I didn't have
[01:10:14] it like I I'm saying now I wish I wish
[01:10:17] that I had that because I feel like for
[01:10:19] me it's too late no oh gosh I do feel
[01:10:23] like it's too late it is not too late
[01:10:24] and that's why you are at the beginning
[01:10:26] of a new part of your life right now and
[01:10:28] I am it is required that 5 Years From
[01:10:31] the day you come back on this podcast
[01:10:34] okay five years to the day I'm going to
[01:10:37] bring you back and I'm going to be
[01:10:38] running the old Amber Rose clips and
[01:10:40] it's going to be like I don't believe gu
[01:10:41] I believe gu then we're going to be like
[01:10:45] Oh I'm telling you I'm telling you I
[01:10:47] have a feeling I just feel I'm working
[01:10:48] all over okay if I if I were to ever
[01:10:50] believe in God I don't I don't think it
[01:10:52] would be the Christian God well God
[01:10:54] believes in you
[01:10:55] there's only one would be maybe like a
[01:10:58] alien
[01:11:00] simulation God or something like
[01:11:04] that something
[01:11:06] like something like you know aliens from
[01:11:08] another planet you been up in Silicon
[01:11:10] Valley you've been up in Silicon Valley
[01:11:11] too much listening to Elon Musk and AI
[01:11:14] podcast too much BR I'm going to get you
[01:11:16] out of Hol I'm going to get you out of
[01:11:18] California in the South get you out of
[01:11:21] that I'm going to come and visit more
[01:11:22] often I'm going to I'm going to see what
[01:11:23] this place is about and you know and
[01:11:26] everyone who's watching this the
[01:11:27] Christians are going to be praying for
[01:11:28] you so it's a wrap thank you Christians
[01:11:31] like when when I get you baptized and
[01:11:33] confirmed the cathol oh my goodness girl
[01:11:34] I'm scared that Catholic gang gang I'm
[01:11:37] scared I'm scared of that but Amber I
[01:11:40] have to get unscared yeah there's
[01:11:42] religion it scares living childhood
[01:11:45] dealing with some and Trauma from your
[01:11:47] childhood and that's not religion is not
[01:11:49] supposed to be scary in that way like
[01:11:51] it's well I told you praying used to
[01:11:53] give me a lot of comfort that's why I
[01:11:54] let my my children do it but over time
[01:11:57] I'm terrified of the when I see the
[01:11:59] Bible it scares me it really does the
[01:12:04] missile yeah I I and maybe it is trauma
[01:12:07] that I have to work through but I'm not
[01:12:10] ready yet well well you don't have to be
[01:12:12] ready at and that's what I want you to
[01:12:13] give the permission is like take it one
[01:12:14] day at a time and don't let anybody make
[01:12:16] you feel pressured to know the right
[01:12:18] thing to say the right thing and know
[01:12:19] that you are going to say the wrong
[01:12:21] thing and I think people are scared of
[01:12:22] that like if I'm not perfect immediately
[01:12:24] even me
[01:12:25] becoming Catholic I had such I still
[01:12:28] have anxiety I because I'm so afraid I
[01:12:30] understand like there are cameras
[01:12:32] everywhere and now if I mess up it's
[01:12:34] going to be a headline and I had to deal
[01:12:36] with that and go listen I'm not going to
[01:12:38] get it perfect and I pray for grace I
[01:12:41] ask people publicly for grace and I'm
[01:12:43] asking people that are listening to this
[01:12:45] to just give her some Grace you know
[01:12:47] give her some space it took a lot for
[01:12:49] her to say even one true thing and I
[01:12:52] hope you guys watching this that you've
[01:12:54] heard her heart in the way that I heard
[01:12:55] it on the phone and realize this is a
[01:12:58] real person and she does not have it all
[01:12:59] figured out right now and she may never
[01:13:01] have it all figured out because I don't
[01:13:02] have it all figured out right now but
[01:13:04] it's all about whether or not you are
[01:13:06] willing and brave enough to change your
[01:13:08] mind and evolve when you realize that
[01:13:09] you've gotten something wrong for sure
[01:13:11] so am we are all praying for you and
[01:13:13] I'll see you back here Candace in
[01:13:15] exactly 5 years to the day so I can say
[01:13:17] we shall see haha told
[01:13:20] yourself thanks for having me I really
[01:13:22] appreciate it this is fun
[01:13:25] [Music]
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