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[00:02:00] All right, guys. It's not Ian's uh
[00:02:02] smooth jazz in the background, but that
[00:02:04] was uh your humble host. Hold music. Ian
[00:02:07] Carol.
[00:02:10] >> Oh, you're locked. I don't have you. I
[00:02:11] don't have your sound.
[00:02:12] >> Uh, no, it's just me being amateur hour
[00:02:14] over here, not unmuting myself.
[00:02:17] >> Uh, got
[00:02:17] >> the chat. I already saw a chat that said
[00:02:19] Ian, don't let Baron touch any
[00:02:20] technology, and I'm the one coming in
[00:02:22] muted.
[00:02:23] >> [laughter]
[00:02:25] >> I I get the guy who literally builds
[00:02:27] applications. He comes in and uh and and
[00:02:30] is on mute when he starts the show.
[00:02:31] >> Yeah.
[00:02:32] >> Um guys, welcome in. We're going to have
[00:02:34] a big show today. Um we we have a hard
[00:02:36] cap, though. And um we have to shut it
[00:02:39] down at 7:30 central time. So, we have a
[00:02:41] 90minute program set up for you. After
[00:02:43] the 90 minutes goes, Ian has to run. He
[00:02:46] has a prior commitment. I conned him
[00:02:48] into staying for an hour and a half and
[00:02:51] um much against his will and um he he's
[00:02:54] the
[00:02:54] >> rough life. It's a rough life.
[00:02:56] >> He's the psy tonight.
[00:02:57] >> Whether knowing or unknowing is not yet
[00:02:59] decided. We'll discuss that on tonight's
[00:03:01] show.
[00:03:02] >> Yeah. But um but yeah, we'll we'll we'll
[00:03:05] go an hour and a half. I'll stay a
[00:03:06] little bit afterwards, answer questions
[00:03:09] um and kind of do my uh interaction with
[00:03:11] the uh audience afterwards. But we are
[00:03:14] on both channels. For those that don't
[00:03:15] know, we're on Real Baron podcast on
[00:03:17] YouTube. We are on Ian Carroll Show on
[00:03:20] YouTube as well.
[00:03:23] >> Yes, sir.
[00:03:24] >> Is that is it called Ian Carol Show? As
[00:03:25] soon as I said that,
[00:03:26] >> it is. It is. I keep thinking about
[00:03:27] changing it, but it's still Ian Carol
[00:03:29] show to this day.
[00:03:30] >> You know, I was on my my show was Baron
[00:03:32] Coleman and then I went to Real Baron
[00:03:35] podcast about the time you found me and
[00:03:40] now I want to go back to Baron Coleman
[00:03:41] if someone else picked it up.
[00:03:43] They'll do that to you. They'll get you.
[00:03:45] >> They have two subscribers. [laughter]
[00:03:49] U But guys, we got a big show lined up.
[00:03:51] I do not have my traditional opening uh
[00:03:53] because Ian's here and I did not want
[00:03:54] him sitting here watching me read the
[00:03:56] screen for 10 minutes. We talked about
[00:03:58] maybe it would be cool to have Ian do an
[00:04:00] opening and me watch him do it for 10
[00:04:01] minutes. But uh
[00:04:02] >> we could both do an opening one of these
[00:04:04] days.
[00:04:05] >> We could do it like the Beasty Boys.
[00:04:06] Pass it back and forth. [laughter]
[00:04:07] >> Yeah, now we're talking. Now we're
[00:04:09] talking.
[00:04:09] >> Every other line. Every other line. Um,
[00:04:11] but we do we want to recap for
[00:04:13] everybody. I really want to recap sort
[00:04:15] of the Charlie Kirk universe, the
[00:04:17] Charlie Kirk investigation. Figure out
[00:04:19] where we are on it, but also give people
[00:04:22] a unique back and forth spin on on where
[00:04:26] each of the items is. So, there's
[00:04:28] different buckets of the Charlie Kirk
[00:04:30] investigation. This is something uh my
[00:04:32] the guy I really like to follow, you and
[00:04:34] I were talking about this afternoon,
[00:04:34] Jason Goodman, who I really like his
[00:04:36] personality. I think he um he provides a
[00:04:39] great voice to a lot of different
[00:04:40] issues. Uh but he's loving the drone
[00:04:42] issue. And I'm like, Jason, I've had no
[00:04:44] time to look into drones. This is not
[00:04:45] something I've had any time to explore.
[00:04:47] I'm looking at, you know, gunshots. I'm
[00:04:49] looking at shrapnel. I'm looking at the
[00:04:51] doctor. I'm looking at, you know, plants
[00:04:53] exploding in West Tennessee. I don't
[00:04:55] have time to look at
[00:04:56] >> kind of become an expert at tracking
[00:04:57] planes.
[00:04:59] >> I'm not
[00:05:00] >> just a million different directions to
[00:05:01] go with this investigation.
[00:05:02] >> Do you want to preview what you might be
[00:05:04] working on relative to tracking? Maybe
[00:05:05] like I think that I think that right now
[00:05:07] it's like uh in a state of complete
[00:05:09] disarray because I was trying to load a
[00:05:11] whole bunch of Fort Wuka flights into
[00:05:12] it. So we'll we'll we'll tease it
[00:05:14] another time.
[00:05:15] >> But uh go ahead.
[00:05:16] >> I was just going to say that like you're
[00:05:18] saying there's all these [snorts]
[00:05:19] different directions of investigation
[00:05:21] and we've gotten so far down so many of
[00:05:23] them that we kind of need a a not just a
[00:05:25] recap but like a recondensing of what do
[00:05:27] we know, what do we not know, what was
[00:05:29] disproven and what was proven. And where
[00:05:32] like a lot has been coming out with
[00:05:34] Candace's recent two episodes today and
[00:05:35] yesterday um and things that happened
[00:05:38] over the break that adds a lot of
[00:05:40] context to old stuff and pushes some of
[00:05:42] the old stuff a little bit further
[00:05:44] without necessarily people realizing.
[00:05:47] >> Yeah, she had a good show today. I
[00:05:48] thought she dropped a lot of really um
[00:05:51] a lot of really interesting uh points.
[00:05:54] We can we can open up a couple of those
[00:05:55] as we go. Um, I think the the number one
[00:05:59] dividing line because I keep hearing
[00:06:00] news people say this. I keep hearing
[00:06:02] people in the the investigation sphere
[00:06:04] say this. I see people on the right wing
[00:06:05] and the left wing say this. The
[00:06:07] overarching question to me the entire
[00:06:09] investigation divides on was Charlie
[00:06:11] Kirk shot
[00:06:12] >> 100%.
[00:06:13] >> Did did something external to Charlie
[00:06:16] Kirk enter his neck from more than two
[00:06:19] feet away?
[00:06:21] >> Yep.
[00:06:22] And we've had a lot of playing that idea
[00:06:25] out over time. We've had a lot of people
[00:06:27] testing bullets, people triangulating
[00:06:30] the audio from the actual video
[00:06:33] recordings, people looking at sight
[00:06:35] lines. I drove all the way to UVU to
[00:06:37] look at a single rooftop location to try
[00:06:39] to figure out if a vent was a shooter or
[00:06:41] event. [clears throat] Um, there's been
[00:06:43] a lot of investigation into all possible
[00:06:45] angles of shots and all other theories
[00:06:47] as well. There's still a lot of theories
[00:06:48] out there, but I think we both pretty
[00:06:50] much hone in on one or two, maybe three
[00:06:53] most likely scenarios, not necessarily
[00:06:55] exclusive.
[00:06:57] >> I [snorts] still catch myself saying the
[00:06:58] moment he was shot or Charlie Kirk was
[00:07:00] shot. I still catch myself saying that
[00:07:01] and I don't believe he was shot.
[00:07:03] >> As I was captioning the video that we're
[00:07:04] gonna that we're going to have of that
[00:07:06] little piece today. Um, I caught myself
[00:07:08] doing that when I was captioning it of
[00:07:10] like gunshot and I was [snorts] like,
[00:07:11] "Wait a minute. Yeah, go ahead.
[00:07:14] >> I've taken to calling it the big bang
[00:07:16] and I've seen other people now start to
[00:07:18] call it the big bang or the the moment
[00:07:19] or the whatever. So I think I think
[00:07:21] other people are starting to distance
[00:07:23] themselves from this. Initially gunshot
[00:07:25] seemed very rational, very reasonable to
[00:07:27] me. Um you know, if you look at my text
[00:07:30] threads from September 10th to maybe
[00:07:34] October 15th, there wasn't a single
[00:07:36] doubt in my mind that he had been shot.
[00:07:38] >> It was it was what was the angle? I
[00:07:40] loved Dr. for Chris Martinson when he
[00:07:42] was really going over.
[00:07:43] >> I agree.
[00:07:44] >> Very precise. But then people started
[00:07:46] shooting things with 30 sixes and we
[00:07:49] found out during that investigation that
[00:07:51] Candace had seen footage that showed no
[00:07:53] blood from the back, which we kind of
[00:07:55] all could tell from all the other
[00:07:56] angles, too. But the confirmation of no
[00:07:58] blood from the back, no exit wound, then
[00:08:02] all of the different shooting that was
[00:08:03] happening with 306es into all sorts of
[00:08:05] different materials. Like Chris
[00:08:06] Martinson, for example, did I think 38
[00:08:08] shots in his first test that went
[00:08:10] through roast, bone in roast, concrete
[00:08:13] behind roast, plywood and concrete
[00:08:15] behind roasts. Um it just became more
[00:08:18] and more apparent that the rifle doesn't
[00:08:20] match the crime at all in any way. And
[00:08:23] now actually tonight, I think that you
[00:08:24] have queued up a couple of the frangible
[00:08:26] rounds that have been shot now too,
[00:08:27] right?
[00:08:29] >> I want to bring those in. Uh we'll go
[00:08:31] ahead and bring bring um trigger smarts
[00:08:33] in because we played this before. So,
[00:08:34] this will be a recap for some of my
[00:08:36] audience. I don't know if your audience
[00:08:37] has seen this.
[00:08:39] >> Maybe my Twitch audience had.
[00:08:40] >> But let's bring up why we're looking at
[00:08:42] at frangible audience uh frangible
[00:08:44] rounds at all.
[00:08:45] >> Yeah. The changing narrative.
[00:08:47] >> Yeah. So, so Candace kind of dropped a
[00:08:49] bomb yesterday. That the doctor may not
[00:08:53] have been the one suggesting the gunshot
[00:08:57] as much as Erica Kirk and
[00:08:59] >> Andrew. Huge bomb. A lot of the things
[00:09:02] that she dropped about Erica Kirk
[00:09:03] yesterday were absolutely
[00:09:06] >> gamechanging. They rearranged the whole
[00:09:08] story
[00:09:09] >> in a way that I think a lot of people
[00:09:10] are already suspecting. The most
[00:09:11] suspicious among us are already like
[00:09:13] laser focused on Erica. But it's
[00:09:15] different to be suspicious of Erica than
[00:09:17] to have facts coming out that just kind
[00:09:20] of disqualify her statements.
[00:09:23] >> I I promise not to do the Erica Demon
[00:09:25] voice tonight. [laughter]
[00:09:27] I kind of gave a few promises that
[00:09:29] that's not going to happen.
[00:09:31] >> We'll try our best.
[00:09:32] >> I'm not going to do the Erica tail. Uh
[00:09:35] we're keeping we're keeping it clean
[00:09:36] tonight. Keeping it clean tonight. So,
[00:09:38] you know, clean clean often involves
[00:09:40] more than just um just that. So, so
[00:09:42] yeah, I wanted to wanted to bring that
[00:09:44] in. The reason we're looking at
[00:09:45] frangible rounds is because initially
[00:09:47] the 306 round was kind of accepted by
[00:09:49] everybody. It was recapped by the news.
[00:09:51] Everybody was sort of went with it. It
[00:09:53] was all over social media. your humble
[00:09:54] host. I I think I heard you talk about
[00:09:56] it. We sort of accepted, yeah, Charlie
[00:09:58] was shot. Now, which where was he shot
[00:10:00] from? Was it Tyler Robinson who shot
[00:10:02] him? And then people started firing
[00:10:04] thousands and thousands of rounds at
[00:10:07] everything imaginable in the field. And
[00:10:08] we started looking at it thinking maybe
[00:10:10] he wasn't shot. Like maybe he wasn't
[00:10:12] shot with a 30 six. Then we get the
[00:10:16] information from TPUSA that no, the
[00:10:19] doctor in fact did not say what Andrew
[00:10:22] Kovette said he said. And in fact, what
[00:10:25] he said was perhaps there was a
[00:10:26] frangible round. Now, we learned from
[00:10:28] Candace yesterday, maybe the doctor
[00:10:30] didn't say that either. Maybe they're
[00:10:31] just plugging.
[00:10:32] >> We also halfway through that heard that
[00:10:35] the bullet had hit his C2 down to his
[00:10:39] C6. Like this weird trajectory that goes
[00:10:41] through your face. Like the spinal
[00:10:43] damage that the doctor, the surgeon was
[00:10:45] apparently reporting was completely
[00:10:47] inconsistent with the wound that we had
[00:10:49] all seen in in multiple ways. And so
[00:10:52] with the changing narrative about the
[00:10:54] damage to his neck and the changing
[00:10:55] narrative about the bullet that did the
[00:10:57] damage to his neck, it's and and now we
[00:11:00] can't trust anything that any of them
[00:11:01] have said.
[00:11:02] >> Um and I think that you're the one that
[00:11:03] was pointing out to me that Dr. Lee
[00:11:04] Troder probably can't speak at all. He's
[00:11:06] probably locked up.
[00:11:08] >> Yeah, we'll get
[00:11:09] >> verbally, so to speak.
[00:11:11] >> Right. Not not not physically locked up.
[00:11:13] >> Hopefully not.
[00:11:14] >> Hopefully not locked up. Uh and if he
[00:11:16] is, I hope he's enjoying it. [laughter]
[00:11:18] >> Hope it hope it's consensual. Um, but
[00:11:21] let me uh let me get to this because now
[00:11:23] we have a little background to
[00:11:24] understand why it is we were looking at
[00:11:25] frangible rounds at all because there
[00:11:27] was a legitimate question. Could this
[00:11:29] have been a frangible round? And let me
[00:11:30] say real quickly before I show this
[00:11:32] video, if you are watching on my stream,
[00:11:35] jump over real quickly on Ian, subscribe
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[00:11:41] >> If you are watching on Ian's, I'll be
[00:11:42] selfish here. jump over on mine,
[00:11:44] subscribe to my channel,
[00:11:46] >> like my uh video so that we'll push it
[00:11:48] up to the front of the a
[00:11:50] um all right, let me play this here. Uh
[00:11:54] I might Well, I'm going to leave it on.
[00:11:56] I think he does say a foul word or two
[00:11:57] here, but let me let me bring Actually,
[00:11:59] I don't want to say that. I don't want
[00:12:00] to put ugly words in.
[00:12:01] >> Yeah, don't put words in his mouth.
[00:12:03] >> But hey, let me So, you're gonna
[00:12:05] >> here shooting in the cold for us.
[00:12:07] >> I know it was freezing. You can see he
[00:12:09] was shaking at one point. [laughter]
[00:12:10] Uh let me do this. This is a frangible
[00:12:13] 5.56 round. In a minute, we'll show a
[00:12:14] frangible 300 6 round, but this was
[00:12:16] trigger.
[00:12:17] >> Let me clarify. This round is smaller
[00:12:18] than a 300 6. Oh,
[00:12:20] >> it's about a third of the size.
[00:12:22] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[00:12:23] >> I mean, a traditional 306. Obviously,
[00:12:25] 300 sixes come in a variety of weights,
[00:12:27] but this is um this is a smaller than
[00:12:31] what you would think of as a 30 six
[00:12:32] round. So,
[00:12:33] >> that's a honker of a bone.
[00:12:35] >> That looks delicious. [laughter]
[00:12:37] >> That looks del Yeah, it does. I just I
[00:12:40] just po someone uh texted me and asked
[00:12:42] if I was drinking again. No, this is
[00:12:44] coffee. I just put it in a red wine
[00:12:45] glass because that's all I could find in
[00:12:46] there right now. Um all right, let me
[00:12:49] fire this away. It's going to happen as
[00:12:51] soon as I hit play.
[00:12:54] Boom. So, you saw the the steak get hit.
[00:12:58] You saw the bone jump.
[00:13:00] And so immediately, pause right there.
[00:13:02] Pause. Pause. That right there. The
[00:13:04] first thing I noticed in this test was I
[00:13:06] mean I was actually kind of nervous
[00:13:08] because I I've been theorizing that a
[00:13:10] bullet would not be stopped. And still
[00:13:13] this round is smaller. Yeah. But but if
[00:13:15] this round gets stopped then it leads to
[00:13:17] questions of like well hey maybe we're
[00:13:19] wrong. But not only was the bullet not
[00:13:21] stopped but also the obvious thing that
[00:13:24] these frangible rounds are doing in
[00:13:25] every single instance of them we've seen
[00:13:27] so far is they're doing way more damage
[00:13:30] to the actual tissue that they're
[00:13:31] passing through. And if you watch
[00:13:33] Triggersmart's whole video, which you
[00:13:35] all should go and watch Trigger Smart's
[00:13:36] whole video, it's only like 50 minutes
[00:13:37] long. Excellent video. He shoots a bunch
[00:13:40] of different fruit. He shoots water jugs
[00:13:41] and he shoots this meat and a roast. And
[00:13:44] you can see over and over that the
[00:13:45] frangible rounds are breaking up within
[00:13:47] the flesh a little bit and they're like
[00:13:49] sending their force out into the flesh
[00:13:51] way more. And it it implies to me that
[00:13:53] if a frangible round had hit Charlie
[00:13:55] Kirk in the neck, we would have expected
[00:13:56] to see more damage to the neck, not
[00:13:58] less.
[00:13:59] >> You know what this this test in
[00:14:00] particular did for me? And then watching
[00:14:02] Jesse on Fire and Heavy Duty Country do
[00:14:05] their test, what it confirmed to me was
[00:14:07] a frangible round is not necessarily
[00:14:09] designed, and I don't want to spoil the
[00:14:11] conclusion this early. We're showing the
[00:14:12] first four seconds of the clip here.
[00:14:15] >> Uh, but the fragile round is designed
[00:14:17] not to redirect off of a hard surface.
[00:14:21] >> So, if you shoot at a steel target in
[00:14:22] the field, you know, it might shoot back
[00:14:25] at you if you're just at the right
[00:14:27] angle, but a fragile round is not going
[00:14:28] to shoot back at you. If you hit the
[00:14:30] steel, it it breaks up and and falls to
[00:14:32] the ground. But it is not going to be
[00:14:34] stopped. What we learned in this test
[00:14:36] here, and we'll show I don't want to
[00:14:37] spoil the surprise on heavy duty
[00:14:39] countries video, but um what we learned
[00:14:41] is it doesn't stop in the flesh either
[00:14:43] >> at all or the bone.
[00:14:45] >> Good shot.
[00:14:45] >> No, it goes right through bone both
[00:14:47] tests.
[00:14:49] >> I got I got to I got to figure out uh
[00:14:51] Look at that. That's the bone right
[00:14:53] there. See that?
[00:14:54] >> That's the what we have.
[00:14:55] >> Look at that.
[00:14:58] I mean that just it just went right
[00:14:59] through.
[00:14:59] >> Pretty sizable entry hole. Some pretty
[00:15:02] good damage. Nice wound cavity.
[00:15:03] >> Oh, that's the that's the flesh side.
[00:15:06] >> And I
[00:15:06] >> So yeah, there's your answer. Can a
[00:15:09] human neck stop the
[00:15:11] >> the uh uh frangible round? Now again
[00:15:14] this is a 5.56 round which you know um
[00:15:20] you know in a uh
[00:15:24] I guess in a millimeter perspective it's
[00:15:26] it's uh
[00:15:28] 5 millimeters across instead of uh 8 mm
[00:15:32] across on a 300 6 or 7 1/2 millime
[00:15:34] across on a 300 6 round. Uh in terms of
[00:15:36] inches it's 2200s of an inch instead of
[00:15:39] 3/10 of an inch on a 300 6 round. Um, in
[00:15:42] terms of weight, a typical 30 6 round is
[00:15:44] going to be, you know, in the 140 170
[00:15:47] grain. A 5.56 round is going to be
[00:15:49] around 50 maybe give or take. Um, so
[00:15:52] it's a smaller
[00:15:55] smaller diameter, smaller weight. It is
[00:15:57] a little hotter round. They do fly a
[00:15:58] little faster.
[00:16:00] >> Um, so it wasn't a perfect test, but
[00:16:01] Trigger Smart was able to get his hands
[00:16:03] on, so I'll go ahead and pull this down.
[00:16:05] He was able to get his hands on a
[00:16:08] frangible round and give it a test.
[00:16:12] Now, what did we learn on
[00:16:17] the heavy duty country?
[00:16:20] >> Yeah, shout out to Jesse on Fire and
[00:16:22] Heavy Duty Country for hunting down some
[00:16:24] frangible 306 rounds. I'm pretty sure
[00:16:27] that uh Jesse on Fire said that these
[00:16:29] are actually from 1945 or something.
[00:16:31] They're actual like old military
[00:16:33] surplus.
[00:16:35] >> Yeah, he um I didn't mean to pull that
[00:16:37] up. I'm sure it was a great
[00:16:38] >> She was on She was on point with the
[00:16:39] comment though. Uh, let me look at it. I
[00:16:41] don't want to do that. I don't want
[00:16:43] Erica tried to explain her telling
[00:16:44] Candace she met Tyler at the 2015 rally.
[00:16:46] That was a huge lie and he crushed it
[00:16:48] previously at the funeral rally. Erica
[00:16:50] Kirk is a blank. Um, yeah, when you're
[00:16:54] telling lies that were refuted already
[00:16:56] on stage at Charlie Kirk's memorial in
[00:16:58] front of millions of people. That is bad
[00:17:00] planning. That is bad.
[00:17:02] >> A Joeard. Come on.
[00:17:04] >> Bad PR.
[00:17:05] >> Oh, I get the Joe reference now.
[00:17:07] [laughter]
[00:17:09] You guys are great.
[00:17:10] >> Yeah, we don't Jojo, but we Joe,
[00:17:12] >> we don't [laughter]
[00:17:14] I did I tell you I ordered that book?
[00:17:16] It's coming. The book is on its way.
[00:17:18] I've got the live.
[00:17:18] >> Let's go.
[00:17:20] >> So, this is a 1945 collector's round. I
[00:17:23] think they said they paid $12 per round
[00:17:25] for four rounds of this. Um, which I
[00:17:28] like because had they gone out and
[00:17:29] gotten a new brand new frangible round,
[00:17:32] somebody could say, "Oh, well, perhaps
[00:17:33] Tyler was shooting an 80-year-old
[00:17:35] frangible round and and perhaps it would
[00:17:37] have lost some of its oomph over the
[00:17:38] years." Well, we'll find out how much
[00:17:41] oomph it oomph.
[00:17:42] >> Here's the oomph right here. Boom.
[00:17:45] >> It shot through the turkey, the turkey
[00:17:47] bones, the cinder block behind it.
[00:17:50] >> You'll get to watch them come up and uh
[00:17:52] and and get a peek at it here.
[00:17:54] >> Half the sound of Definitely doesn't do
[00:17:57] as much damage to what's behind it as
[00:17:59] >> That was weird.
[00:18:00] >> Oh my god. It went all the way through,
[00:18:01] >> obviously. But no, but it does damage
[00:18:03] behind it. That's the point. It does do
[00:18:04] damage behind it.
[00:18:05] >> Oh my god. I
[00:18:06] >> mean, look at this thing.
[00:18:07] >> Straight through. Holy sh.
[00:18:10] >> So, it went through.
[00:18:11] >> I mean, there you see the size of the
[00:18:12] hole coming out of the back of it. It
[00:18:14] broke the cinder block.
[00:18:17] >> Straight through.
[00:18:18] >> There's no Look at that. His whole thumb
[00:18:19] fits in the back of it.
[00:18:21] >> Yeah. I saw it hit that 30 odd secret
[00:18:25] [laughter]
[00:18:26] >> like it was like not even if you don't
[00:18:28] watch Heavy Duty Country or Jesse on
[00:18:30] Fire, go give them a follow as well.
[00:18:32] They they're fantastic people. They do
[00:18:33] great.
[00:18:33] >> They do great work.
[00:18:35] >> Um
[00:18:36] >> Lost Stars aspect. There we go. Um All
[00:18:39] right. So, what do you conclude from
[00:18:41] that?
[00:18:42] >> I mean, what we're all thinking is that
[00:18:46] he wasn't shot with a 30 six and we knew
[00:18:48] that from the beginning. I mean, well,
[00:18:50] we've known that for a while now. um
[00:18:52] we've suspected it, but the more tests
[00:18:53] that come out, the more and the more
[00:18:56] absurd the rebuttals are like the bouncy
[00:19:00] skin theory. And I like
[00:19:05] I don't know, like
[00:19:08] maybe the ammunition salesmen out there
[00:19:10] know bullets better than the tests
[00:19:12] actually are showing, and I'm just
[00:19:14] waiting for any of them to do a test to
[00:19:16] shoot something that will stop a 30 six.
[00:19:18] Valhalla literally shot through steel
[00:19:20] with 3006. Not frangible, but with 3006.
[00:19:24] So, it's it's it makes you think about
[00:19:27] what's a different plausible scenario.
[00:19:29] And there's a lot of other plausible
[00:19:30] scenarios when you actually look at the
[00:19:31] video evidence of what actually happened
[00:19:32] that day. When you put together the
[00:19:34] fragments, these are things that really
[00:19:35] came together on your show on Trigger
[00:19:37] Smart. A number of people have been
[00:19:39] involved in putting together the pieces
[00:19:40] of the puzzle of a possible explosion, a
[00:19:43] possible exploding microphone, a
[00:19:45] possible shape charge. um a fair bit of
[00:19:47] discussion about possible electrocution.
[00:19:49] Um there have been people talking about
[00:19:51] like you know low low velocity short
[00:19:54] range projectiles but I have not largely
[00:19:57] bought that because of how
[00:20:00] unreliable that would be and because of
[00:20:03] how much evidence we see that actually
[00:20:04] matches up with an explosive at this
[00:20:07] point.
[00:20:07] >> Yeah. I if for people who are I mean if
[00:20:09] it was a short range low velocity
[00:20:12] projectile so from within 30 ft or less
[00:20:16] I'm willing to entertain that I I would
[00:20:18] have to see evidence of something left
[00:20:20] in his neck I would have to see where
[00:20:22] that projectile is. Um and it in his
[00:20:25] body the way his body moves the way the
[00:20:27] shirt jumps the way his uh necklace
[00:20:29] moves is not consistent with that being
[00:20:31] the sole cause of damage to his neck.
[00:20:35] But I would at least be willing to
[00:20:36] entertain that, hey, maybe they in just
[00:20:38] in just sheer piling on, they made his
[00:20:41] necklace move, they made his microphone
[00:20:42] move, they made his shirt move, they
[00:20:44] made his neck, you know, jump up, they
[00:20:46] made his his shoulder tense, they made
[00:20:48] his hands crink up. Uh, and also just
[00:20:50] because they wanted to make sure, you
[00:20:52] know, Rasputin wouldn't come back for
[00:20:53] the dead, they also hit him with a low
[00:20:54] velocity projectile. But if you're going
[00:20:56] to tell me they hit a low velocity
[00:20:57] projectile from 300 ft away, no, that's
[00:21:01] not that they are not made for that.
[00:21:03] That's not That's not something people
[00:21:05] do. And if you don't believe me, walk
[00:21:07] into any sporting goods store, go grab a
[00:21:09] subsonic round, and look at the drop
[00:21:12] rating on those things at 50, 100, 150,
[00:21:15] 200 meters out. You get you get drops
[00:21:18] that are just ludicrous. I mean,
[00:21:20] absolutely ludicrous.
[00:21:21] >> You're like throwing a football at that
[00:21:22] point.
[00:21:23] >> Yeah. [laughter]
[00:21:24] >> Yeah. You're hail marrying. It is the
[00:21:26] difference honestly between throwing a
[00:21:28] throwing something and shooting a like
[00:21:31] throwing a rock and shooting a uh uh
[00:21:33] what do you call this? Slingshot.
[00:21:35] >> Yeah,
[00:21:35] >> the slingshot's going to be much
[00:21:37] straighter. Might have a little drop to
[00:21:38] it, but much straighter over a period of
[00:21:40] time than just chucking the rock.
[00:21:43] But here's the here's the real kicker
[00:21:45] that I keep coming back to and my brain
[00:21:47] keeps swirling around this piece is that
[00:21:50] if you take a couple of assumptions that
[00:21:52] we're certainly both on this page, I
[00:21:54] think and I think most of our audiences
[00:21:55] are is that the rifle was planted and
[00:21:59] if they planted this mouser that shoots
[00:22:02] 30 out six rounds and then he gets shot
[00:22:05] in the neck, why would they plant the
[00:22:07] wrong rifle? Right? And that's this is
[00:22:10] one of the key questions that to me
[00:22:12] lends credibility to the exploding
[00:22:14] microphone theory because part of the
[00:22:15] exploding microphone theory, the most
[00:22:17] likely version of the exploding
[00:22:18] microphone theory in my understanding of
[00:22:20] it is that it was actually supposed to
[00:22:21] hit him in the chest. Is that he was
[00:22:23] supposed to have a chest wound and if he
[00:22:24] had a chest wound, none of these
[00:22:26] questions would have been asked. None of
[00:22:27] this weirdness with the bullet and the
[00:22:29] autopsy and the neck and the vertebrae.
[00:22:31] None of that would have happened. And no
[00:22:32] one would be shooting through roasts
[00:22:34] with 30 sixes because 306 can totally
[00:22:38] stop in your chest. That's fine. No
[00:22:39] problem. But the neck wound just does
[00:22:42] not make sense for the plan. And John
[00:22:44] Bray laid out a very compelling case
[00:22:46] that we aren't going to show because you
[00:22:47] have to kind of look at the blood pool.
[00:22:49] You have to look at the blood and the
[00:22:50] piece in the blood. He laid out a very
[00:22:52] compelling case for that possibly if
[00:22:54] there's a a shape charge in the shirt
[00:22:56] attached to the microphone inside the
[00:22:58] microphone and it it kind of uh primes
[00:23:01] at a weird angle and then shoots at the
[00:23:03] wrong angle and either a piece of
[00:23:05] shrapnel hits him in the neck or I think
[00:23:08] shrapnel is most likely for the neck but
[00:23:09] maybe the actual shape charge hits him
[00:23:10] in the neck. that starts to make a lot
[00:23:13] more sense because you're not going to
[00:23:14] go to all this planning like carry out
[00:23:16] this complex assassination and plant the
[00:23:19] wrong rifle.
[00:23:20] >> Right.
[00:23:22] >> I want to get to shape charges. I want
[00:23:24] to get to explosives in just a second.
[00:23:25] You've raised the issue of the exploding
[00:23:27] microphone. I am a fan that among the
[00:23:30] many things that took place that day. Uh
[00:23:33] something
[00:23:36] something ignited, I'll say, if not
[00:23:38] exploded, ignited under his shirt,
[00:23:40] causing his shirt to rapidly deform in a
[00:23:43] way that that a uh a gunshot to the neck
[00:23:45] would not have done. Uh but I want to
[00:23:47] pause and remind people, we pulled the
[00:23:49] actual comments on the law from HHS
[00:23:52] today just so you can see that we're not
[00:23:55] making this up. The doctor Dr. Lee
[00:23:58] Dupont Troder is in a very unenviable
[00:24:02] position. So this is the pro definition
[00:24:04] of protected health information here.
[00:24:06] This is as it relates to deceased
[00:24:10] >> individuals. [snorts]
[00:24:11] Um the the HIPPA privacy rule that we're
[00:24:13] all familiar with because we all have to
[00:24:15] go in HIPPO releases every time you go
[00:24:17] to the doctor somewhere. Um HIPPA the P
[00:24:19] does not stand for privacy. It stands
[00:24:21] for portability. It was about a health
[00:24:22] insurance portability. a bunch of
[00:24:24] senators got together and said, "Hey,
[00:24:25] while we're doing this, we might as well
[00:24:26] protect our uh uh health information so
[00:24:28] no one knows we're screwing around on
[00:24:30] our wives and no one knows we're going
[00:24:31] to be." [laughter]
[00:24:33] It was great. It was great for them. Um,
[00:24:36] but it's it's created a night a
[00:24:38] nightmare for the rest of us. But it
[00:24:39] does protect individually identifiable
[00:24:42] health information for 50 years
[00:24:45] following the date of death. I wanted to
[00:24:47] point that out because people are saying
[00:24:49] I hear people saying in the field, well,
[00:24:52] you know, the doctor is telling so and
[00:24:53] so this, the doctor said this, and I'm
[00:24:55] telling you right now, that's not
[00:24:57] happening. Yeah, that's just not
[00:25:00] happening. Uh the doctor is not telling
[00:25:03] these people these things. Um
[00:25:05] individually identifiable health
[00:25:07] information about a deedent for 50 years
[00:25:10] following the death of an individual
[00:25:11] remains protected health information.
[00:25:14] after that 50 years and even during the
[00:25:16] 50 years there are some exceptions but
[00:25:18] it would never be like you can talk to
[00:25:19] Andrew Kovvette.
[00:25:21] >> That exception wouldn't exist. There's
[00:25:22] no Covet exception.
[00:25:24] >> No. And you certainly can't make up
[00:25:26] stuff and tell them f be spreading false
[00:25:29] information about someone's death
[00:25:31] either.
[00:25:32] >> That's not happening.
[00:25:34] >> No, you can't.
[00:25:35] >> No, no, you can't. Um, so I wanted to
[00:25:37] get to that. Now, you had some
[00:25:39] information about a potential source of
[00:25:43] the explosive uh material. Should should
[00:25:46] the explosive material have actually
[00:25:48] happened? Talk to
[00:25:49] >> actually actually before we go to
[00:25:51] talking more about accurate energetics,
[00:25:53] let's talk about um let's just play this
[00:25:56] clip that I pulled out. Um, I want to
[00:25:59] share just the exact video because we
[00:26:02] pulled a video out so that Charlie's not
[00:26:05] in the video, but there is a thing that
[00:26:09] seems to drop from the sky behind
[00:26:10] Charlie right after the shot is fired,
[00:26:13] like one second after the shot is fired.
[00:26:15] And it's been a bit of a mystery all
[00:26:16] along because it looks like something
[00:26:18] falls from the top of the tent at like
[00:26:22] right before Charlie's even fallen over,
[00:26:24] before anything's happened. Um, and and
[00:26:27] I've been wondering this the whole time.
[00:26:28] I just loaded into the bottom there,
[00:26:30] Baron.
[00:26:30] >> Okay. I was going to say, why am I not
[00:26:31] seeing it? But that's why.
[00:26:32] >> Yeah. And um and so what I did is I cut
[00:26:34] this so that Charlie's not in the frame.
[00:26:36] And I actually took out the audio, too,
[00:26:37] just in case YouTube is being really
[00:26:38] paranoid. But I put in title cues for
[00:26:41] when the audio for when the gunshot
[00:26:43] sounds happened. And I also put in cues
[00:26:45] for what frame rate, like what speed
[00:26:47] we're watching this at. So first we'll
[00:26:48] watch it at 4x speed and then it slows
[00:26:50] down to one/10enth speed and then it
[00:26:51] slows down to 120th speed. So we can see
[00:26:53] this thing. It's only in three frames of
[00:26:55] this video, I'm pretty sure. Maybe four.
[00:26:57] Um, so it's at one quarter speed and
[00:27:00] Charlie's head is right down here
[00:27:02] beneath.
[00:27:03] And the gunshot just sounded and then a
[00:27:06] thing falls right here. Right there. A
[00:27:09] little piece of something.
[00:27:11] One10enth speed. And this is at 120th
[00:27:13] speed.
[00:27:15] Okay. And
[00:27:18] it's, you know, maybe it's a bug. Maybe
[00:27:22] it's a giant cockroach bug that flies
[00:27:26] over Charlie Kirk's head in September in
[00:27:29] Utah
[00:27:31] 1 second after the gunshot sound rings
[00:27:33] out, but that seems like a crazy
[00:27:37] coincidence to me. So, just to clarify
[00:27:39] the frame direction that's happening
[00:27:40] here. This is the first frame in this
[00:27:42] video that I can see it in. I've seen it
[00:27:44] in a couple of the videos. This is the
[00:27:46] best one that I could find today to pull
[00:27:47] it from this frame. It's unclear if it's
[00:27:50] going up or down, but the next frame in
[00:27:52] the line is this.
[00:27:54] And then the next frame is this. And
[00:27:58] then it falls out of frame.
[00:28:01] >> So yeah, tell tell me what you're
[00:28:03] thinking there.
[00:28:04] >> Well, so I watch this and to begin with,
[00:28:06] when you watch it in normal speed, bugs
[00:28:09] don't move that way. They don't move
[00:28:10] that fast. They don't they don't change
[00:28:12] directions on a dime. Um, this thing,
[00:28:15] you're you're talking 120th speed and
[00:28:18] you're hitting frame by frame. Um, a bug
[00:28:21] moving this far in one frame is 120th of
[00:28:24] a second. No bug flies that fast.
[00:28:26] >> So, that's not a bug.
[00:28:27] >> Yeah,
[00:28:28] >> there's a 0% chance it's a bug.
[00:28:29] Initially, people were saying perhaps it
[00:28:32] was a a bullet shell because he was shot
[00:28:34] from behind.
[00:28:35] >> People were saying that it was a bullet
[00:28:36] shell that fell out of the camera,
[00:28:37] right? Because the camera was a gun,
[00:28:39] right? which is like, yeah, maybe a
[00:28:41] stretch, but it certainly if it looks
[00:28:43] like something falling from the ceiling
[00:28:44] of the tent, but what no one what at
[00:28:46] least I had not yet thought of is maybe
[00:28:48] it's something that exploded upwards out
[00:28:50] of Charlie's shirt and hit the top of
[00:28:52] the tent and then fell. And it happens
[00:28:54] about 1 second after the gunshot sound
[00:28:57] rings out, which in my mind is about the
[00:29:00] time it would take for something to fly
[00:29:02] up extremely fast, hit the bounce of the
[00:29:04] tent canopy, and then fall down at a
[00:29:07] regular speed. So, you and I speculated
[00:29:09] today, actually you speculated, and I
[00:29:10] think I agree with it. Um, that
[00:29:14] it looks on its face like something hit
[00:29:17] the top of the tent, the metal of the
[00:29:19] tent, a piece of
[00:29:21] >> Yeah, it might be hitting this bar here.
[00:29:23] >> Yeah.
[00:29:24] >> And bouncing off that. Or it might like
[00:29:26] I'm undecided. Maybe it's something that
[00:29:28] goes all the way up to the roof of like
[00:29:30] the canopy of the tent, bounces off that
[00:29:31] really fast, and then the very next
[00:29:33] frame we already see it falling down.
[00:29:35] It's hard to say, but it kind of looks
[00:29:37] like it deflects right here, right from
[00:29:39] there to there.
[00:29:40] >> And and if you've ever thrown like a a
[00:29:43] pizza box or something, you know the
[00:29:45] little circles that come in a pizza box
[00:29:46] and they spin because they're flat and
[00:29:48] the and the air acts on it.
[00:29:52] And it clearly has different
[00:29:54] dimensionality to it. Here we're seeing
[00:29:55] it side on kind of side on kind of more
[00:29:58] flat on
[00:30:00] >> but see this is a piece of physical
[00:30:02] evidence and maybe like maybe it's an
[00:30:04] aberration of camera but I kind of doubt
[00:30:07] that. Um I would love to hear someone's
[00:30:09] argument for that. Maybe it's a bug. I
[00:30:12] highly doubt that. Maybe it's some
[00:30:15] advanced DARPA drone. I don't think so.
[00:30:17] Um, I think the far more likely
[00:30:19] explanation that it's a piece of ADSB
[00:30:21] plastic from some of the one component
[00:30:24] of something that exploded somewhere
[00:30:26] down below.
[00:30:27] >> I I think I I I tend to agree with you.
[00:30:29] Um, it's black, it's fragmented, and it
[00:30:32] looks to me like a large piece of what
[00:30:35] we see as debris on the floor of the SUV
[00:30:38] that Candace showed in the picture.
[00:30:39] >> And it's also worth noting that it's not
[00:30:41] this black piece of the actual tent. It
[00:30:43] is not that. And that piece does not
[00:30:45] move as this other piece comes in and
[00:30:48] comes near it and kind of like not
[00:30:50] really sure what the white is going on
[00:30:52] in that frame, but that other thing
[00:30:53] stays there the whole time.
[00:30:54] >> I think I think it's light. It's it's
[00:30:56] just light hitting it. So something that
[00:30:58] John Bray pointed out to me today
[00:31:00] actually um and John Bray's done yman's
[00:31:02] work on this uh microphone theory, but
[00:31:04] what he pointed out to me is the road go
[00:31:07] actually has a glassy cover over one
[00:31:09] side. And so what you may be seeing on
[00:31:12] that what you said looked white
[00:31:14] >> uh
[00:31:15] >> is light fragmenting also or light uh
[00:31:18] reflecting also off of that fragmented
[00:31:20] plastic because it has sort of a glassy
[00:31:21] cover on one side.
[00:31:22] >> Yeah.
[00:31:23] >> The newer Rogue 3 doesn't have that
[00:31:25] >> because this is a piece of what I'm what
[00:31:28] I mean to say is this is a piece of
[00:31:29] physical evidence that is captured on
[00:31:31] film on multiple cameras and it needs an
[00:31:33] explanation and a gunshot does not
[00:31:35] explain this.
[00:31:36] >> No,
[00:31:36] >> at all. This has nothing to do with a
[00:31:38] gunshot. And so this just one piece of
[00:31:40] many piece of evidence that goes with
[00:31:42] the evidence in the car of what looks
[00:31:44] like fragmented plastic on the floor of
[00:31:46] the car. Um it goes with the puffing of
[00:31:48] the shirt which pulls Charlie's shirt up
[00:31:50] in like one 130th of a second more or
[00:31:54] less in front of his face with gases
[00:31:56] appearing to come out. Maybe it's
[00:31:58] aberration, but I think we're all on the
[00:32:00] same page that things are starting to
[00:32:03] add up to be more more in line with some
[00:32:06] sort of explosive charge or some other
[00:32:08] device rather than a gunshot. So, I want
[00:32:12] to pull up since we're talking
[00:32:13] explosives. Um, a lot of people may not
[00:32:16] know about a month to the day, give or
[00:32:19] take, after Charlie Kirk was um after
[00:32:22] the big bang in Oram, Utah, where
[00:32:25] Charlie Kirk uh was taken down at the
[00:32:27] tender age of 31,
[00:32:29] a munitions plant in Tennessee blew up.
[00:32:33] And when I say it blew up, I don't mean
[00:32:35] it caught fire and and sparkled like
[00:32:37] Erica Kirk coming on stage.
[00:32:39] >> [laughter]
[00:32:40] >> I mean it like ceases to exist.
[00:32:43] >> Yeah.
[00:32:44] >> Like my house
[00:32:45] >> a hole in the ground.
[00:32:46] >> Yeah. My house is 60 miles away. People
[00:32:48] in our neighborhood felt it.
[00:32:50] >> Is a massive facility, a massive
[00:32:52] explosion. And you pulled some
[00:32:56] information on this. I will pull some of
[00:32:57] these up uh one at a time. Tell us what
[00:33:00] it is you see in this about us page on
[00:33:04] AES. This is the plant that exploded.
[00:33:08] tell us why you think this might be
[00:33:09] something we should be looking at.
[00:33:11] >> So, you'll notice first off though,
[00:33:13] you'll notice that that page right there
[00:33:16] actually is not the original web page.
[00:33:19] That page is a archive.org page. Right.
[00:33:23] >> That's correct.
[00:33:23] >> Because Baron, if you switch to showing
[00:33:24] my screen at the bottom real quick.
[00:33:27] >> Hold, please.
[00:33:28] >> What my screen shows is what you would
[00:33:30] actually find if you went to this web
[00:33:32] page today, right now.
[00:33:36] Oh my gosh. really
[00:33:37] >> page no longer exists
[00:33:39] >> and you know maybe Acur Energetics is
[00:33:42] under investigation maybe they are
[00:33:44] rightfully concerned about their public
[00:33:46] image and what's going on but right now
[00:33:48] this page does not exist so you got to
[00:33:50] go to the archive and way back their
[00:33:52] page and that is what Baron is looking
[00:33:54] at and I found this this page in
[00:33:56] particular Baron if you scroll all the
[00:33:58] way down to the bottom
[00:34:00] the very very bottom of this page I mean
[00:34:02] they do have a lot of stuff so scroll up
[00:34:04] just a little bit sorry I was getting
[00:34:05] ahead of myself saying the bottom Scroll
[00:34:06] up to the next red section.
[00:34:09] In this red section right there,
[00:34:12] um bottom left, it says expertise in
[00:34:14] shaped charges and cast cure
[00:34:18] technologies, right? And you know,
[00:34:22] that's just like a little, you know,
[00:34:23] diddly on their website. It's just a
[00:34:25] little a little ping that kind of hit my
[00:34:27] searches.
[00:34:28] But um there's another page that's on
[00:34:31] their old website that is also 404 not
[00:34:33] found. Baron, if you want to go to mine.
[00:34:35] Um, and I'll jump from the 404 to what I
[00:34:37] found. Um, so this is another page that
[00:34:40] is no longer exists, but when you go to
[00:34:45] archive.org torque and plug that in.
[00:34:50] Um,
[00:34:52] application of linear shaped charges.
[00:34:55] Accurate energetic jetic systems. Linear
[00:34:57] shaped charges are ideal for a variety
[00:34:59] of applications including demolition,
[00:35:01] mining, salvage operations, and wherever
[00:35:03] precision metal cutting is required.
[00:35:04] Whether cutting through steel beams and
[00:35:06] construction, demolition or severing
[00:35:07] underwater pipelines during salvage
[00:35:09] operations provide unmatched precision
[00:35:11] and reliability. This is a thing that
[00:35:13] they make and that they specialize in.
[00:35:15] And this is not new news. John Bray
[00:35:17] already broke this. John Bray already
[00:35:18] talked about this. But you shouldn't
[00:35:20] just trust someone to tell you that a
[00:35:23] thing is real. You shouldn't just trust
[00:35:24] someone else's research. You should be
[00:35:26] triangulating and verifying for
[00:35:28] yourself. And so I thought what John
[00:35:29] Bray said about the shape charge theory
[00:35:32] was very compelling. And so I wanted to
[00:35:34] dig in and see if I could verify each
[00:35:36] individual piece of it. And it turned
[00:35:38] out to be a little harder than I
[00:35:40] expected to verify the uh sort of the
[00:35:44] claim that Accurate Energetic Systems
[00:35:46] was like actively manufacturing these
[00:35:48] types of explosives that John Bray was
[00:35:49] talking about. But I found those two
[00:35:51] dead pages in their old like in their
[00:35:53] dead web page. And also um on acid
[00:35:56] energetic systems association
[00:35:58] association of the United States Army
[00:36:00] page they actually um me here let me
[00:36:04] change my search from Lori to shaped
[00:36:07] they mentioned shape charges in the
[00:36:09] specific details about uh two of their
[00:36:12] different facilities capacities and
[00:36:14] they're actually talking about their
[00:36:16] various facilities and what they build
[00:36:17] at those facilities. And then this is
[00:36:20] another area that consists of two
[00:36:21] multi-level buildings purpose-built for
[00:36:23] this. Um, and they make all kinds of
[00:36:25] things. Cast items include mining
[00:36:27] boosters, warheads, grenades, mortars,
[00:36:29] shape charges, and TNT cylinders.
[00:36:32] So,
[00:36:33] this is just a bit of that verification
[00:36:35] process of realized that actually, yes,
[00:36:36] this plant, to recap, this plant that
[00:36:41] blows up one month after Charlie Kirk
[00:36:44] was assassinated out of nowhere, they
[00:36:47] specialize in, among other things,
[00:36:49] shaped charges. And John Bray, who's got
[00:36:52] a lot more expertise in this than I do,
[00:36:54] was talking about how they actually work
[00:36:55] with the exact type of explosive
[00:36:57] material that he suspects was in the
[00:36:59] shape charge that he's discussing. and
[00:37:00] he's talking about building actually a
[00:37:02] model to try to replicate the damage to
[00:37:04] a microphone and try to test that
[00:37:05] plastic out afterwards. But um we'll
[00:37:07] have to wait and see what he pulls up on
[00:37:08] that. Um that is okay. So Baron, I want
[00:37:12] to ask you about the contracts that you
[00:37:15] found
[00:37:16] >> because I was digging into the contracts
[00:37:18] too
[00:37:19] >> and I think I probably found some of the
[00:37:21] same contracts as you. um when you dig
[00:37:23] into oh that's other stuff from Canada's
[00:37:26] episode is when you dig into the
[00:37:27] contracts you find a lot of contracts on
[00:37:29] um higher gov and kind of like basic
[00:37:31] contract uh amalgamation websites but
[00:37:34] this is the one that I was telling you
[00:37:35] about earlier when we were getting ready
[00:37:36] here that seems to have a glitch in the
[00:37:39] system
[00:37:41] seems to be every way that I've been
[00:37:43] able to triangulate it seems to be
[00:37:45] entered with a glitch a computer glitch
[00:37:48] and it's not showing up in most of the
[00:37:49] other contract databases but it seems to
[00:37:51] be entered where it was uh awarded and
[00:37:55] completed both on September 23rd, 2025
[00:37:59] apparently. Um I don't know a lot about
[00:38:02] military contracts and I've not seen
[00:38:04] them like I've not done a lot of digging
[00:38:06] into them in the past.
[00:38:09] >> That's interesting. I've not seen it for
[00:38:11] the first time. Yeah. Um
[00:38:14] >> so it was
[00:38:17] I mean this is a little suspicious to
[00:38:20] begin with. Not not wholly suspicious,
[00:38:22] but the fact that they solicited and
[00:38:24] only got one bid received is is a little
[00:38:27] unusual. That second sentence there.
[00:38:29] >> No, two were received.
[00:38:30] >> Well, that's the that's the global
[00:38:32] military products one. Go down.
[00:38:33] >> Oh, you're right.
[00:38:34] >> Yeah. So, that was a 19,000.
[00:38:37] >> One received.
[00:38:38] >> Yeah. One received. Work locations
[00:38:40] funding determined with each order. Uh,
[00:38:42] estimated completion date September 23.
[00:38:44] >> It's right there.
[00:38:46] >> Yeah,
[00:38:47] >> right there. So, it's like, is this a
[00:38:49] typo? Let me look.
[00:38:50] >> And why doesn't this contract show up in
[00:38:52] the normal contract locations?
[00:38:55] >> Yeah. So, I'm on USA spending. Let me
[00:38:57] see real quickly. Sorry guys, we're
[00:38:59] doing a little research on the fly. This
[00:39:00] is
[00:39:00] >> because I had So, when I was telling
[00:39:02] Baron about this earlier, we had already
[00:39:03] been talking a little bit as we were
[00:39:04] getting ready for the show. I was
[00:39:05] talking to Baron about how, you know, I
[00:39:07] think that we should probably revisit
[00:39:08] the Acura Energetic systems explosion. I
[00:39:10] want to hear a little bit of more about
[00:39:11] the Baron's been doing some foot some
[00:39:13] footwork in the background that he's
[00:39:14] going to tell us about, I hope. Um, and
[00:39:17] I was just digging through the contracts
[00:39:18] just as like, you know, grunt work to
[00:39:20] make sure I was caught up. And I figured
[00:39:22] that I was finding the exact same things
[00:39:23] that Baron had already talked about. And
[00:39:24] I mentioned this just earlier today and
[00:39:26] Baron was like, "What do you I don't
[00:39:27] know if I've seen this contract that
[00:39:29] you're referring to."
[00:39:30] >> Um, because it's my understanding it's
[00:39:32] not showing up in those normal places.
[00:39:34] >> Yeah, I just found it. Um, it is a it's
[00:39:38] a six-year period of performance though.
[00:39:41] Um, I'll I'll just share the
[00:39:43] >> So, it seems like this has to be a typo,
[00:39:45] right? It's like I'm I'm not under the
[00:39:46] impression that this is some sin. Like
[00:39:48] let's be real. If you're ordering a
[00:39:50] special shape charge for a secret
[00:39:52] assassination, you're not doing it
[00:39:53] through like a DoD contract, right?
[00:39:56] You're not.
[00:39:56] >> Well, you might. And
[00:39:57] >> but you might piggyback off of it. You
[00:39:59] might, you know, grab a little bit off
[00:40:01] the you might skim a little off the top,
[00:40:02] so to speak, right?
[00:40:03] >> You you might. So, let me let me pull
[00:40:05] let me drop this and I'll pull up what
[00:40:08] um what I've been using. So, for those
[00:40:11] that don't know, if you go to
[00:40:12] usaspending.gov, of most federally
[00:40:15] contracted dollars are available here. I
[00:40:17] think this is the contract you're
[00:40:18] looking at. This top one right here. Um
[00:40:21] period of performance start date uh 2025
[00:40:24] 92 uh 923. And then you'll notice it's
[00:40:27] it's four years later at the end of Q2
[00:40:30] is
[00:40:30] >> does it have spend in it?
[00:40:32] >> Yeah. So this is
[00:40:34] >> 119 million.
[00:40:36] >> 119. Well, it's it's part of a lot
[00:40:39] larger than that. Yeah. $7 million
[00:40:41] obligation.
[00:40:43] >> Um, we could open this up and see
[00:40:46] >> W519TC25D41.
[00:40:50] >> Yep, that's it.
[00:40:51] >> Cool. Good.
[00:40:52] >> That's it. Um, so this is part of a this
[00:40:55] is a small piece what you've discovered
[00:40:57] here of a very large order uh for
[00:41:02] for
[00:41:04] TNT.
[00:41:05] >> Yeah.
[00:41:06] um obviously probably not going to be
[00:41:08] able to deliver now that they've been
[00:41:09] wiped off the map.
[00:41:10] >> Yeah. Awkwardly. And speaking of them
[00:41:13] being wiped off the map, that brings us
[00:41:14] back to what you've been up to lately is
[00:41:17] that um
[00:41:19] the
[00:41:21] what was it? The plant manager. People
[00:41:24] discovered maybe John Bray was the first
[00:41:25] one to discover it that the plant
[00:41:27] manager had quit like days after Charlie
[00:41:30] was killed. Can you you know a little
[00:41:31] more about this than me?
[00:41:32] >> Well, I don't know a ton about it
[00:41:34] because I actually reached out to the
[00:41:35] guy. I found his name. Uh, actually
[00:41:38] reached out to the guy and
[00:41:42] he was less than enthusiastic about
[00:41:44] talking to me [laughter]
[00:41:46] >> to no one's surprise.
[00:41:48] >> The nicest way. I know. I don't even
[00:41:49] want to say his name because I I don't
[00:41:51] want people harassing this guy. Um, and
[00:41:53] I I I often tell people I don't I don't
[00:41:55] love reaching out to people if I don't
[00:41:56] have to. Um, but I I got to
[00:42:00] >> You felt the explosion in your house.
[00:42:02] >> Yeah. I got to the point where I was
[00:42:03] like, "All right, I gotta ask this guy."
[00:42:05] I mean, he he left the he left
[00:42:07] employment. He left I pick up the phone,
[00:42:09] I call him. To my surprise, he answers.
[00:42:11] Um, I have a way to find phone numbers
[00:42:14] for people. I pick up the phone, I call
[00:42:15] him. He answers and and uh and was
[00:42:18] polite. I mean, he wasn't a jerk. And he
[00:42:20] said, "Hey, what can you know, can I
[00:42:21] help you?" And I said, "Yeah, I'm um I'm
[00:42:24] I'm Baron Coleman. I've got a a show on
[00:42:26] on YouTube and I' I'd just like to if
[00:42:29] you have a few moments ask you some
[00:42:30] questions about your employment at
[00:42:32] Accurate Energetic Systems and um and
[00:42:35] sort of some of the fallout after the
[00:42:37] explosion. And he said, "F you. Don't
[00:42:40] you ever effing call me again. Uh
[00:42:44] something some other f word." And then
[00:42:45] he hung up. So, I was like, "All right,
[00:42:47] well, I guess I I guess the answer to
[00:42:50] that question is uh you don't want to
[00:42:51] talk about it if uh you apparently don't
[00:42:54] have time or don't want to talk."
[00:42:55] >> Yeah. So, the timeline, just to clarify,
[00:42:57] is Acura Energetic Systems makes all
[00:42:59] kinds of explosives for the US
[00:43:00] government and they have ongoing
[00:43:02] contracts to this day. Charlie Kirk is
[00:43:04] murdered on September 10th. Just a few
[00:43:07] days later, the plant manager resigns
[00:43:10] and a new plant manager takes over. And
[00:43:13] within that next month period,
[00:43:15] a lot of people are talking about a lot
[00:43:17] of theories about how did Charlie Kirk
[00:43:18] actually die. They're paving over the
[00:43:21] courtyard at UVU, which I think we'll
[00:43:23] talk about in a little bit.
[00:43:24] >> And then about a month after Charlie is
[00:43:26] killed, that plant just goes poof right
[00:43:29] off the map.
[00:43:30] >> And I think the obvious suspicion that I
[00:43:33] am very curious about um is was that an
[00:43:37] accident or was that in response to
[00:43:39] needing to cover up some sort of
[00:43:40] evidence? And obviously we don't know
[00:43:42] and we don't have any evidence to say
[00:43:44] that that was malicious. There is an
[00:43:46] investigation ongoing though.
[00:43:47] >> Well, of course there is, but it'll be
[00:43:49] years before it's done. But I think one
[00:43:51] there's one component to it you didn't
[00:43:53] mention, which is again just like the
[00:43:56] Fort Wuka story change the nature of the
[00:43:58] response from the other side. Everybody
[00:44:00] seemed to be willing to just let, you
[00:44:03] know, Chris Martinson and and Valhalla
[00:44:05] and you and me and Candace and everybody
[00:44:07] else sort of talk about the Charlie Kirk
[00:44:08] investigation as long as we were
[00:44:10] examining what angle he might have been
[00:44:11] shot in, maybe what grain of round might
[00:44:13] have shot,
[00:44:14] >> uh,
[00:44:15] >> perfectly happy to talk about bullets.
[00:44:17] >> Yeah. The moment John Bray enters the
[00:44:18] scene and says kind of looks like his
[00:44:21] mic exploded, kind of looks like there
[00:44:23] was an explosion under his shirt. I
[00:44:24] mean, within days of that report, this
[00:44:27] plant gets blown off the map.
[00:44:29] >> Yeah.
[00:44:30] >> 16 people died. This was not like
[00:44:31] something that happened at 2 am. This
[00:44:33] was during a shift. I think it was a
[00:44:35] morning shift. Like,
[00:44:36] >> was it after John Bray came out and
[00:44:38] started talking about it?
[00:44:39] >> Yes.
[00:44:39] >> Whoa, dude.
[00:44:41] >> I'm 99.5%
[00:44:43] sure. 99.
[00:44:44] >> I think I think you might be right.
[00:44:46] >> I mean, it was it was not long after
[00:44:48] either.
[00:44:48] >> Maybe a week, week and a half. I mean to
[00:44:50] be fair people have been talking about
[00:44:52] exploding microphones since the
[00:44:53] beginning but but I was dismissive of it
[00:44:56] for the reason I think a lot of people
[00:44:57] were is because until you start saying
[00:44:58] the words shaped charges it doesn't
[00:45:01] actually it doesn't add up. It's like
[00:45:03] there's no outwards 360°ree explosion. A
[00:45:06] shape charge is very very different and
[00:45:08] a shape charge basically makes a hole in
[00:45:10] something. Um
[00:45:11] >> so so this is the contract that raised
[00:45:13] people's suspicion. Um I don't remember
[00:45:16] if I was the I think I was the first one
[00:45:17] >> you were the first one that I saw talk
[00:45:19] about it. Yeah, I think I was the first
[00:45:20] one to mention it. I've since seen it so
[00:45:21] many other places. I don't remember if I
[00:45:22] was first or not. I think I was. Um,
[00:45:24] start date May 1, 2025. This was for
[00:45:28] miniaturized extra small demolition
[00:45:31] charges, anti-personnel extra small.
[00:45:35] [laughter]
[00:45:36] >> I mean, you can't get extra
[00:45:38] >> a little on the nose.
[00:45:40] >> Yeah. I mean, other than saying we need
[00:45:42] something that'll fit in a microphone.
[00:45:44] [laughter]
[00:45:46] >> Teeny weeny, please. Yeah. Um, and it's
[00:45:49] a small amount. I mean, a defense
[00:45:51] contract uh in
[00:45:53] >> a tiny contract.
[00:45:55] >> Yeah.
[00:45:55] >> Compared to the other contracts that
[00:45:56] they have open,
[00:45:57] >> they're eight figure contracts.
[00:45:59] >> Yeah.
[00:45:59] >> And and this one was such a short
[00:46:01] turnaround like the one you just found a
[00:46:02] minute ago from September 23rd. This had
[00:46:05] a that had a period of performance of
[00:46:06] four or five years. This one was months
[00:46:10] >> months.
[00:46:10] >> Kind of weird.
[00:46:11] >> And it was delivered on August 25th.
[00:46:13] That's when the SAM flight, SAM
[00:46:15] triple0ero flight flies from Camp
[00:46:16] Springs to Colorado Springs. Uh that's
[00:46:19] when the Hebrew City flight comes into
[00:46:21] John Tune.
[00:46:22] >> You did great work on that Hebrew City
[00:46:23] flight.
[00:46:24] >> Yeah. So I mean it's it's
[00:46:25] >> that's interesting
[00:46:26] >> there. This is this is recapping to say
[00:46:29] there are reasons people might have
[00:46:31] these suspicions. All right. I don't
[00:46:32] want to I don't want to step on your uh
[00:46:34] thunder here.
[00:46:35] >> No, no, that's exactly it. And I think
[00:46:37] it's a perfect time to actually move
[00:46:39] into you talking about paving over.
[00:46:41] >> Oh,
[00:46:42] >> yeah. that stuff that we'll talk about
[00:46:43] um Tyler Robson in a minute.
[00:46:45] >> So, I want to play real quickly a um a
[00:46:49] clip from now I've played this before,
[00:46:52] but but we've got again 30 plus thousand
[00:46:54] people on a live stream right now. So,
[00:46:55] some of you may not have seen this. This
[00:46:57] is a clip from uh the great John Goodman
[00:47:00] or Jason Good, excuse me, the great
[00:47:02] Jason Goodman. Someone called him John
[00:47:03] Goodman to his face the other day and
[00:47:05] now I can't stop in my mind calling him
[00:47:07] John Goodman. [laughter]
[00:47:08] Uh the great Jason Goodman interviews.
[00:47:11] Now, this guy on the screen is not only
[00:47:14] an eyewitness to the Charlie Kirk
[00:47:15] assassination. He's a great person to
[00:47:17] listen to for the next 25 seconds or so
[00:47:19] because he is also a contractor at Utah
[00:47:23] Valley University. He's a roofer. He
[00:47:25] works with the contracting. So, he
[00:47:27] understands the flow of money through
[00:47:29] Utah Valley University. And there is an
[00:47:32] entity that he will discuss in just a
[00:47:34] second and we'll look at what they have
[00:47:36] to say, but let me play this for the
[00:47:39] folks. Um he's going to be talking about
[00:47:43] when when he opens he's talking about
[00:47:44] the paving job that he's standing on
[00:47:46] because that was grass where his feet
[00:47:48] are right now was grass when Charlie
[00:47:50] Kirk was taken
[00:47:51] >> and it was done on a Sunday in Utah.
[00:47:53] >> Four days after the shooting
[00:47:54] >> rush Sunday job in Utah.
[00:47:56] >> See I just said shooting four days after
[00:47:58] the big.
[00:47:59] >> Yeah.
[00:48:00] >> So let's listen to uh what our roofing
[00:48:01] contractor has to say to the great Jason
[00:48:04] Good.
[00:48:05] >> But you know everyone's asking about
[00:48:08] this. Everyone thought it was UVU. Um, I
[00:48:11] found out that it was it was that it was
[00:48:13] the D the DFCM.
[00:48:15] >> What is that?
[00:48:16] >> Uh, Division of Facilities Construction
[00:48:19] Management.
[00:48:20] They're the ones that push this concrete
[00:48:22] pad through. Uh,
[00:48:26] you know, I've we do some commercial
[00:48:28] roof uh roofing work here and I was told
[00:48:32] that I don't want to mention any names,
[00:48:34] but
[00:48:35] >> Yeah. Let's step over here so we're out
[00:48:36] of the wind. You don't want to mention
[00:48:37] any names, but
[00:48:40] >> UVU is pretty much sounded like they
[00:48:43] were just as confused as everyone else
[00:48:45] when this thing came.
[00:48:47] >> So, what he's saying there is I don't
[00:48:48] know. There was a lot of wind noise, but
[00:48:50] UVU was just as confused as everyone
[00:48:52] else why they're rushing to pave over a
[00:48:55] crime scene. Literally cover up a crime
[00:48:57] scene.
[00:48:58] >> Yep.
[00:49:00] >> It's almost like there was explosive
[00:49:02] material in the grass or something.
[00:49:04] Almost like maybe the black piece we saw
[00:49:06] falling from the tent. There might have
[00:49:07] been others.
[00:49:08] >> Yeah. Almost like all the black pieces
[00:49:10] of something that are in the floor of
[00:49:12] Charlie of the car they took Charlie out
[00:49:13] in. Um like maybe some of that's in the
[00:49:16] grass that you got to get rid of because
[00:49:17] how would you find it all?
[00:49:19] >> And how would you cover up the fact that
[00:49:20] you're pick I mean you could have the
[00:49:21] cop like you could say you were the cops
[00:49:23] picking through the grass but you're not
[00:49:24] going to find it all.
[00:49:25] >> Well, when I covered this the first time
[00:49:27] I played that clip from Jason Goodman's
[00:49:29] podcast, Crowds Source the Truth. Again,
[00:49:31] he does great work. Um, if you
[00:49:34] been he's been hard on it for a long
[00:49:36] time, just doing awesome reporting on
[00:49:38] all kinds of stories.
[00:49:39] >> Yeah, he's he and he's his personality
[00:49:41] is great. I I I really genuinely like
[00:49:43] his uh his approach to things. And
[00:49:44] again, you saw a little bit of it there.
[00:49:46] He's like the guy said, "Oh, this is
[00:49:47] from DFCM." And he's like, "What's
[00:49:49] that?" I mean, Jason never misses a
[00:49:51] follow-up question.
[00:49:52] >> Yep.
[00:49:53] >> But I don't want to glaze over too much.
[00:49:55] Um,
[00:49:57] >> but if you go to the DFCM, let me let me
[00:50:00] pull it up. This is the 2025
[00:50:04] uh Utah Valley University projects that
[00:50:07] they had. Now, I will show you the 2026
[00:50:09] just in case you think, well, maybe they
[00:50:11] just rolled a little bit ahead, but no,
[00:50:12] they didn't. This is the 2025 projects
[00:50:15] they had planned, the Division of
[00:50:16] Facilities Construction Management for
[00:50:18] the state of Utah.
[00:50:20] This is the capital improvement plan
[00:50:23] they had for that year. And it does not
[00:50:27] have paving over the courtyard. It has
[00:50:29] roofing funds, ceramic roofs, a chiller
[00:50:32] replacement,
[00:50:34] um a roundabout
[00:50:36] over on College Drive, a pneumatic
[00:50:39] damper operator.
[00:50:40] >> Yeah, you weren't kidding that it is
[00:50:42] deeply itemized down to very small. Like
[00:50:44] there's a $144,000 job up there for
[00:50:47] replacing ceramic roof.
[00:50:50] >> They have a gas meter.
[00:50:51] >> Yeah, they're they're outing a few gas
[00:50:54] meters and they've got it. Light bulbs.
[00:50:57] Light bulbs are in here.
[00:50:58] $300,000 of light bulbs.
[00:51:00] >> Well, it's a big campus.
[00:51:02] >> 75,000 for parking lot lighting
[00:51:04] replacements. And so there is no pave
[00:51:06] crime scene in here. [laughter]
[00:51:09] >> There's no itemized pave Charlie Kirk
[00:51:11] crime scene.
[00:51:12] >> Um,
[00:51:14] >> and that's where we
[00:51:15] >> that's where we get the phrase cover up,
[00:51:17] right? When we say it's a cover up, what
[00:51:19] we mean is they're literally covering up
[00:51:22] a crime. We say that figuratively,
[00:51:25] metaphorically, we say it's a cover up.
[00:51:26] I'll show you the 26 just in case you
[00:51:28] don't believe me. Um, but
[00:51:31] this is this is where it comes from. You
[00:51:33] would take a uh there we go. Utah Valley
[00:51:36] University. So, again, same thing.
[00:51:39] They've got it deeply itemized here.
[00:51:41] They even have the names of these
[00:51:42] people, and I'll tell you about those in
[00:51:43] just a second. Uh, but you know, look,
[00:51:47] VAV and AHU upgrades, safety railing
[00:51:49] upgrade, on and on. Concrete grinding
[00:51:52] and leveling. Uh, again, that's grinding
[00:51:54] and leveling. That's not paving over
[00:51:56] crime scenes, uh, pathways,
[00:51:59] uh, controls upgrades, boiler replace. I
[00:52:02] mean, but again, there's nothing about
[00:52:04] the courtyard being turned from grass to
[00:52:07] concrete. That does not exist in here
[00:52:09] anywhere. I'll let you kind of review
[00:52:11] this for a minute while I tell you about
[00:52:13] these people over here. I'll leave this
[00:52:15] >> which wouldn't have been a terribly
[00:52:16] cheap operation either. I mean, it's not
[00:52:18] the most expensive thing in the world,
[00:52:19] but it certainly is a operation. They
[00:52:21] had machinery in there. They were
[00:52:23] leveling and compacting dirt. They were
[00:52:25] pulling out all the sod. Let me say this
[00:52:28] for Utah. I like that they do this
[00:52:30] because it it prevents the facilities of
[00:52:34] Utah owned assets, stateowned assets
[00:52:38] like university systems. It prevents
[00:52:39] them from degrading due to neglect of
[00:52:43] the people operating those facilities.
[00:52:45] So the state comes in and they oversee
[00:52:46] and they say, "Hey, wait a minute.
[00:52:47] You're neglecting a parking lot and
[00:52:48] you're devaluing our asset. We're going
[00:52:51] to come in and pave it for you. we're
[00:52:53] not going to let you neglect it like
[00:52:54] that. But the fact that Utah Valley
[00:52:56] University was confused by it shocks me
[00:52:59] because I guarantee you Utah Valley
[00:53:01] University is like, "Hey, we need a
[00:53:03] cooling tower replaced. Hey, we need a
[00:53:05] transformer replaced. We need this
[00:53:07] parking lot scraped in and
[00:53:08] >> hey, we need more security cameras on
[00:53:10] our campus. [laughter]
[00:53:13] >> Uh, hey, we could we could use some more
[00:53:15] security guards. Maybe a magnetometer or
[00:53:17] two."
[00:53:17] >> Yeah. Um, but the people that you saw on
[00:53:19] the right hand side over here,
[00:53:22] I was called by somebody. I was actually
[00:53:24] put on to this um to this I was put on
[00:53:27] to this uh spreadsheet for 25 and 26.
[00:53:31] And the fact that this was not a Utah
[00:53:33] Valley University operation, but this
[00:53:35] was a state operation. Somebody called
[00:53:36] me and said, "I know the four people you
[00:53:38] need to talk to. Here are their cell
[00:53:41] phone numbers. Don't tell anyone where
[00:53:42] you got them." And I haven't, but I
[00:53:45] reached out to them. Reached out to them
[00:53:46] by text. reach out to him by call. No
[00:53:48] response.
[00:53:49] Absolutely no response. Same thing I
[00:53:51] said before. Hey, you know, very similar
[00:53:54] to what I said to the uh the guy from
[00:53:56] Accurate Energetic Systems. Hey, I've
[00:53:57] got a show. You know, we get we get some
[00:54:00] viewers from time to time. People are
[00:54:01] asking a lot of questions about this.
[00:54:02] Can you just give me a call back? Happy
[00:54:04] to talk to you off the record and
[00:54:07] determine what part of that you would
[00:54:08] like to be on the record. And there was
[00:54:10] no answer. There was no response with
[00:54:11] text and no answer to the phone call.
[00:54:13] So, draw whatever conclusions you want.
[00:54:16] >> [snorts]
[00:54:17] >> They all changed their phones.
[00:54:20] >> They all got rid of their phones.
[00:54:22] >> They probably need to um [laughter]
[00:54:25] >> throw them in the river. Pave over those
[00:54:27] phones.
[00:54:28] >> Yeah. So, um what is sort of your uh
[00:54:34] summation of of the the state of the
[00:54:36] Charlie Kirk investigation in light of
[00:54:38] the things we've talked about tonight?
[00:54:40] >> Everything about the gunshot stinks and
[00:54:42] they are more than happy for us to go
[00:54:44] down the trail of the gun. go down the
[00:54:45] trail of the gunshot, shoot as many
[00:54:47] things as we want, but every new thing,
[00:54:50] every new significant break around the
[00:54:52] guns, like for example, Candace breaking
[00:54:54] that she has information that to claim
[00:54:56] that it was the feds that later found
[00:54:58] the gun with not the dogs, but their
[00:55:00] special fed feed evidence. Um, all these
[00:55:03] things that just add up to the gun
[00:55:05] doesn't make sense. The gun doesn't seem
[00:55:07] to be a part of it. the gun doesn't
[00:55:08] match the actual wounds that we see, but
[00:55:11] we see all sorts of evidence, mostly
[00:55:14] evidence that was not controlled by the
[00:55:16] government because, for example, the
[00:55:18] piece falling from the sky we just
[00:55:19] looked at, that's not controlled. That's
[00:55:21] an accident. Whatever that is, if that's
[00:55:23] a piece of evidence, that's an accident.
[00:55:24] Um the photo of the ch of the car with a
[00:55:27] bunch of plastic all over the bottom,
[00:55:28] apparently that wasn't controlled. That
[00:55:30] was a release by the people that they
[00:55:32] didn't control. Um the people getting on
[00:55:36] to the plant. Um, I mean, you can't
[00:55:38] really, you know, you can't hide a giant
[00:55:40] explosion, but there, this is not, none
[00:55:42] of the evidence that's kind of led in
[00:55:44] this direction has been from the feds.
[00:55:46] It's all been from citizen journalists,
[00:55:48] and it's all been arising organically
[00:55:50] from people asking questions, and it has
[00:55:52] coincided, as you know, steps in this
[00:55:55] line of questioning has happened. Um,
[00:55:57] it's coincided with plants being wiped
[00:56:00] off the face of the earth and all sorts
[00:56:02] of other drama online to distract back
[00:56:05] to bullets and stuff like that. So, I
[00:56:08] just can't help but notice that all the
[00:56:09] actual evidence starts to point in this
[00:56:11] direction and all the responses to
[00:56:12] evidence and the sort of like media
[00:56:15] environment points away from a gun and a
[00:56:17] bullet as well.
[00:56:19] >> So, this is a very complex operation in
[00:56:21] my opinion. A lot of people point to
[00:56:22] that as as the idea that it probably
[00:56:24] isn't suspicious at all because if it
[00:56:26] was suspicious, it would just be too
[00:56:28] dogone complex. Um, you had some
[00:56:30] information about where Tyler went to
[00:56:32] college and some of the uh plane the the
[00:56:35] programs they have there.
[00:56:36] >> Hey, listen. This this whole line of
[00:56:39] reasoning,
[00:56:40] >> it might be a red flag or a red herring.
[00:56:43] It's hard to say. Um, it's hard to say,
[00:56:45] but it's really interesting and it's
[00:56:46] worth reminding ourselves all of um that
[00:56:49] Tyler Robinson went to a intelligence
[00:56:53] operative school. He went to an
[00:56:54] intelligence recruiting ground haven.
[00:56:57] And UVU itself actually is deeply
[00:57:00] involved in intelligence agencies. Um,
[00:57:02] and this has been swirling for a long
[00:57:03] time. People dug this up right away. And
[00:57:05] actually, I found clips of uh so first
[00:57:09] share my first page here, Baron.
[00:57:11] [snorts] Um because I found our boy Alex
[00:57:13] Jones enters the picture here as well.
[00:57:15] Um because I found out that actually
[00:57:18] Utah State University, which is where
[00:57:21] Tyler attended for one semester,
[00:57:24] 4.0 student, nearly aced his ACT on the
[00:57:27] way to greatness, you know, presumably
[00:57:29] from his prior school behavior. He goes
[00:57:32] to Utah State University, which has all
[00:57:35] these CIA programs we're about to look
[00:57:36] at. And then he drops out after one
[00:57:38] semester and does a hard Uturn in his
[00:57:40] life. and decides to become an
[00:57:42] electrician or go to the electrical
[00:57:44] program at like a tiny local like
[00:57:46] community college kind of place. And the
[00:57:49] speculation about him being recruited by
[00:57:51] the CIA at this college got so
[00:57:53] overwhelming so fast that they put out a
[00:57:55] statement all the way back in September
[00:57:57] officially denouncing the theory and
[00:57:59] saying that due to unfounded
[00:58:01] misinformation circulating online, USU
[00:58:03] is offering the following statement on
[00:58:06] Tyler Robinson's time at the university.
[00:58:08] He was not involved with the center for
[00:58:10] anticipatory intelligence, did not have
[00:58:12] contact with CIA faculty and did not
[00:58:14] attend any CIA activities, CI
[00:58:17] activities, sorry. [laughter]
[00:58:19] The center for anticipatory intelligence
[00:58:21] is a strictly academic classroom blah
[00:58:22] blah blah blah blah. And this reporting
[00:58:24] came up because Alex Jones had actually
[00:58:27] done a report early on where he said
[00:58:30] confirmed uh Tyler Robinson was
[00:58:32] confirmed an asset. Um where am I at? I
[00:58:36] think it's uh did I put it? Oh, I'm
[00:58:38] actually at the wrong end of the
[00:58:40] reporting here.
[00:58:42] Um this is an Alex Jones tweet from
[00:58:46] September 29th, 2025, the same day they
[00:58:48] put that statement out. Breaking Tyler
[00:58:50] Robinson confirmed to be in a CIA
[00:58:51] advanced program for college students,
[00:58:54] which is typical, you know, getting a
[00:58:57] little ahead of our skis here. Think of
[00:58:59] it what you want. Certainly, oh, we
[00:59:01] don't need to visit that. Certainly
[00:59:03] Tyler Robinson did attend this school
[00:59:05] that has extremely heavy ties to the
[00:59:08] intelligence community, but that does
[00:59:10] not mean that he was necessarily in the
[00:59:12] program. Um, and in light of Mr. Jones's
[00:59:16] recent, shall we say, um, ranting, I
[00:59:22] have questions about um, whether this is
[00:59:24] a red herring or not. I don't know. But
[00:59:28] I did pull together some of their staff
[00:59:31] and faculty just to remind us all of
[00:59:34] although I think I need to switch to
[00:59:36] sharing my whole screen in order to show
[00:59:38] this to you. Um
[00:59:40] >> do you need do you need me to drop you
[00:59:41] or I mean drop your share or can you
[00:59:43] switch?
[00:59:44] >> No, I'll just kill it and I'll bring up
[00:59:45] bring up the next one because and this
[00:59:48] is just a quick recap um as we get to
[00:59:51] remind ourselves. So there's my new
[00:59:53] screen. I just pulled this all straight
[00:59:55] off of UVU's or USU's website, sorry,
[00:59:58] the school that Tyler attended for one
[01:00:00] semester that they have this thing
[01:00:02] called the Center for Antipatory
[01:00:03] Intelligence that was founded by ex CIA
[01:00:06] Jeannie Johnson who has a strange gap
[01:00:09] for many years um between when she was
[01:00:13] um a member of the Balkan Task Force
[01:00:15] from 98 to 99 for the CIA and then later
[01:00:18] went back to school to get her PhD. But
[01:00:20] there's a number of years that are
[01:00:21] unaccounted for there. And you know, you
[01:00:23] can imagine what a CIA operative would
[01:00:24] be doing in unaccounted four years. And
[01:00:26] Matt Barrett, her co-founder, um, and
[01:00:29] close partner, has an even more
[01:00:31] astounding resume at the CIA. Uh, he
[01:00:36] retired from the Central Intelligence
[01:00:37] Agency as an assistant director of the
[01:00:39] CIA. And he had all these other senior
[01:00:41] positions including mission manager for
[01:00:43] the Near East, South Asia, and Africa in
[01:00:45] the directorate of science and
[01:00:46] technology. He was the head of three
[01:00:48] offices in the directorate of analysis.
[01:00:50] It goes on and on and on. and they have
[01:00:52] several other employees too um that have
[01:00:54] a bit of a CIA pedigree,
[01:00:57] intelligence agency and defense
[01:00:58] department pedigrees in general. But
[01:01:01] there is um it's not just the
[01:01:07] school that Tyler went to. It's actually
[01:01:09] UVU
[01:01:11] as well. Um
[01:01:14] and here, let me pull this one up for
[01:01:16] you. I think this is my whole window, so
[01:01:18] I can thumb through my tabs.
[01:01:22] I see.
[01:01:22] >> So, at UVU, the school where the
[01:01:24] shooting happened, there's also this
[01:01:27] NSS, the Center for National Security
[01:01:30] Studies, and I actually saw their
[01:01:31] building when I went there to visit and
[01:01:32] check out the crime scene. And they,
[01:01:34] this is also a intelligence agency
[01:01:36] pipeline part of the school. Um, let me
[01:01:40] see where my tab is.
[01:01:42] And it's quite well confirmed that these
[01:01:44] are direct recruiting pipelines. Um,
[01:01:47] this is an article about
[01:01:50] UVU's national security students
[01:01:52] determined to combat global tech threats
[01:01:54] and how these programs
[01:01:57] are new, but they're designed for the
[01:01:59] next generation of intelligence assets
[01:02:01] and intelligence preparedness, etc. in
[01:02:03] the national security studies program.
[01:02:06] One of the country's premier national
[01:02:09] security programs
[01:02:11] just happens to be at this college where
[01:02:13] this assassination happens.
[01:02:14] >> You know what I if when you're picking a
[01:02:18] jury, let me just say this. When you're
[01:02:19] picking a jury and and you get the idea
[01:02:21] someone really wants to be on the jury,
[01:02:23] both the prosecution and the defense are
[01:02:25] apt to strike that person because that
[01:02:27] person
[01:02:29] might take any position in order to get
[01:02:31] power or to assert himself or herself
[01:02:34] over the jury process. They might leak.
[01:02:36] They might be um too excited to be
[01:02:39] there. And and because of that, you just
[01:02:40] don't want them around. Wouldn't you
[01:02:43] think if you showed up at a college
[01:02:44] that's known for having a CIA pipeline,
[01:02:46] you're like, "Hey, I'd like to join the
[01:02:47] CIA program. Can I get into the secret
[01:02:50] the secret program? Can I become an
[01:02:51] agent?
[01:02:52] >> And then about that time, you'd be like,
[01:02:54] "Yeah,
[01:02:55] >> that guy probably watched too many Bond
[01:02:56] movies. Let's let's move on from this
[01:02:58] guy."
[01:02:58] >> Yep.
[01:02:59] >> Let's go recruit the guy that looks at
[01:03:00] that cheese pizza. [laughter]
[01:03:03] >> Yep. Let's go get that guy and we'll own
[01:03:05] him.
[01:03:06] >> Yep. Because remember, the official
[01:03:08] statement released is that he had no
[01:03:10] contact with the official program
[01:03:12] members. He wasn't in the program. He
[01:03:13] didn't go to any program activities. And
[01:03:15] that's not what I think anyone
[01:03:16] intelligent is alleging. And I'm not
[01:03:18] even alleging anything. I'm just saying
[01:03:19] that he goes to a school where he's
[01:03:22] surrounded by intelligence assets and
[01:03:23] intelligence recruiting pipelines. And
[01:03:25] then this murder happens at a school
[01:03:26] that is also filled with intelligence
[01:03:28] assets and intelligence recruiting
[01:03:29] pipelines. And it's no secret like it is
[01:03:32] within their own um documentation that
[01:03:35] such experiential learning draws job
[01:03:37] recruiters from both traditional
[01:03:38] government agencies such as the CIA or
[01:03:40] FBI along with private security firms,
[01:03:42] etc.
[01:03:43] and that their graduates are uniquely
[01:03:45] prepared to understand how to work in a
[01:03:46] professional security and intelligence
[01:03:48] environment and how to brief from day
[01:03:50] one.
[01:03:52] And there's this is the one that's at
[01:03:54] UVU. This is the building that's at on
[01:03:56] the UVU campus. Um, and they actually
[01:03:58] have a thing called the Inter Mountain
[01:04:00] Intelligence Industry and Security
[01:04:01] Consortium, the I3SC, which is a
[01:04:05] university industry partnership led by
[01:04:07] UVU Center for National Security Studies
[01:04:09] and USU's Center for Anticipatory
[01:04:12] Intelligence. And there's that word
[01:04:13] again, intermount. If you remember Inter
[01:04:16] Mountain Healthcare, right? It just
[01:04:17] couldn't help but have that stand out to
[01:04:19] me. And so you're just in an environment
[01:04:21] where Inter Mountain Healthcare seems to
[01:04:22] own all of the
[01:04:25] medical facilities around and a lot of
[01:04:28] the medical planes that are flying
[01:04:30] happen to be owned by a company that's
[01:04:32] owned by an Inter Mountain Healthcare
[01:04:34] Company, an Inter Mountain intelligence.
[01:04:37] Uh I mean, and maybe it's just names.
[01:04:39] Maybe it's just naming conventions. Um,
[01:04:41] I haven't dug deep enough and I don't
[01:04:43] necessarily even think it's going to be
[01:04:45] very fruitful to dig that deep into it,
[01:04:49] but it is not hard to dig this stuff up
[01:04:51] and to realize that we're dealing with
[01:04:53] an environment um where this is the
[01:04:57] company that the second in command at CI
[01:05:01] um has been a a high level member of
[01:05:04] this company for a long time. It goes on
[01:05:06] and on and on. Why do you think the uh
[01:05:09] these intelligence a agencies are so
[01:05:11] active in Utah? Um I mean I I went to
[01:05:15] college in in Alabama. I don't recall
[01:05:17] there being a massive
[01:05:20] >> traditionally they recruited at Ivy
[01:05:21] Leagues because traditionally Ivy
[01:05:23] Leagues was where you could get people
[01:05:26] that were from the aristocracy, kids
[01:05:28] that were from money, that were from
[01:05:31] >> Yeah. psychopaths. Yeah. [laughter] and
[01:05:33] also people that were really good at
[01:05:35] checking boxes and following orders and
[01:05:37] doing what they were told to achieve the
[01:05:39] mission being getting into Ivy Leagues.
[01:05:41] It was always an old boys club in the
[01:05:43] intelligence communities and they
[01:05:44] recruited from the old boys club
[01:05:46] universities. But in this new era,
[01:05:48] they're clearly branching out from that
[01:05:49] and there's a and this is not news,
[01:05:52] there's a long history of the CIA
[01:05:54] recruiting from the LDS faith um for
[01:05:57] whatever reason. Okay. Um, and Utah
[01:06:00] being a Mormon hub and Utah being the
[01:06:02] seat of the new CIA recruiting programs,
[01:06:05] both of these things sort of swirling
[01:06:06] around this case, it's just a lot of
[01:06:08] color. And I think if I were to
[01:06:10] speculate on it right now, if and this
[01:06:12] is how I always think is like, if this
[01:06:14] theory is true, what would that mean? If
[01:06:16] this theory were true, what how would
[01:06:18] these facts fit into place? And what
[01:06:19] would you actually be looking at? And I
[01:06:20] do this for every different theory. And
[01:06:22] so if Tyler Robinson were recruited by
[01:06:25] some sort of intelligence agency
[01:06:27] operation, it wouldn't be him going to
[01:06:30] the actual classes and going to the
[01:06:32] actual school and taking the normal
[01:06:33] pipeline. It would be something along
[01:06:35] the lines of bumping into someone at
[01:06:37] school that offers a different direction
[01:06:39] or that just keeps tabs on them. Maybe
[01:06:41] they're looking for loaners. Maybe
[01:06:42] they're looking for people of a certain
[01:06:44] disposition. Who knows? And the
[01:06:46] suspicious part is actually not that he
[01:06:47] went to the school. The suspicious part
[01:06:49] in my mind is that he dropped out of the
[01:06:50] school right after one semester.
[01:06:52] >> One semester.
[01:06:54] >> Yeah. And then he goes into this
[01:06:55] electrical engineering kind of program
[01:06:57] that I have not actually worked to
[01:06:59] confirm yet. It occurred to me today in
[01:07:00] re in rehashing the story that it would
[01:07:02] be interesting to try to confirm with
[01:07:03] people that go to that small uh
[01:07:06] community college. if anyone knows Tyler
[01:07:08] Robinson from that community college, if
[01:07:09] he was attending classes at that
[01:07:10] community college because he was
[01:07:12] allegedly attending classes there for
[01:07:13] quite some time and working as an
[01:07:15] electrician um to make money
[01:07:18] and I have some questions just because
[01:07:20] it's it's just weird and I suspect that
[01:07:22] it would check out
[01:07:23] >> but I don't know.
[01:07:24] >> So that's one one area that I don't feel
[01:07:27] like has been run down. Another area is
[01:07:29] I don't feel like the neighbors have
[01:07:30] been prodded enough.
[01:07:32] >> No. um the neighbors where Lance Twigs
[01:07:35] and and uh Tyler Robinson would host
[01:07:37] their Magic the Gathering uh group where
[01:07:40] they would host their friends over.
[01:07:41] Several of the neighbors said they saw
[01:07:43] strange cars in the weeks and months
[01:07:44] leading up to u the Charlie Kirk
[01:07:46] assassination. They saw out of state
[01:07:48] plates. They saw tinted windows. And you
[01:07:52] know, I I I'm curious why when Casey
[01:07:55] Anthony was charged with, and I say that
[01:07:58] cuz she now lives near us. Um, but when
[01:08:01] Casey Anthony was charged with murder,
[01:08:03] they were camped out of her house. The
[01:08:04] news was camped outside of her house
[01:08:06] forever. They harassed her mom. They
[01:08:08] they I mean, every day there was
[01:08:10] somebody broadcasting live.
[01:08:12] >> They were talking supposed to look.
[01:08:14] >> Why has no one gone to the neighbors?
[01:08:17] >> Why has no one gone to the neighbors?
[01:08:18] Why has CNN not gone to the neighbors
[01:08:20] and say, "What did you see?" You know,
[01:08:21] with your gigantic old,
[01:08:22] >> look at the negative space. Right.
[01:08:25] >> Yeah.
[01:08:25] >> Right. And I was just doing that show
[01:08:27] with Tucker about uh Las Vegas shooting.
[01:08:30] And it's the same thing again. It's like
[01:08:32] where the media ignores where the media
[01:08:34] avoids the story, where normally they'd
[01:08:36] be in it, where normally they'd have
[01:08:37] cameras everywhere, where normally
[01:08:38] they'd be filling you with emotion and
[01:08:40] with narrative and they're not there.
[01:08:43] That is very suspect to me. And and the
[01:08:47] reason why Baron and I got to talk about
[01:08:48] this earlier, and I'd be curious to I
[01:08:50] never actually got you to kind of rehash
[01:08:51] your thoughts for me here, is that we
[01:08:53] are we're a long ways from the true
[01:08:56] trial, but we're sort of in the
[01:08:57] pre-trial phases now, and we've had our
[01:09:00] first public court appearance of Tyler
[01:09:02] Robinson, and everything the the main
[01:09:04] narrative was all to like his trans tie
[01:09:07] and how he was smiling and laughing. And
[01:09:09] there's this fake lip reading that's
[01:09:10] totally not fedivance about how he said
[01:09:13] that he was so happy that he did it. And
[01:09:15] and it's it's like, okay, so a huge
[01:09:18] question in my mind that I think we
[01:09:19] should all be asking is does Tyler was
[01:09:21] Tyler Robinson duped into being a Patsy
[01:09:24] or is Tyler Robinson a willing psy,
[01:09:27] right?
[01:09:28] >> Because that is a very different trial
[01:09:30] that we're about to see depending on the
[01:09:31] two. And since you have experience with
[01:09:33] trials, Baron, I want to hear your take
[01:09:34] on
[01:09:35] >> Well, I was gonna say if if he is a
[01:09:37] willing psy, I don't know that you'll
[01:09:38] get a trial.
[01:09:41] >> He's a duped psy, he might think, you
[01:09:43] know, like I feel like Lee Harvey Oswald
[01:09:45] was a duped py.
[01:09:46] >> I agree.
[01:09:46] >> Because Lee Harvey Oswald, what what
[01:09:48] were some of his final words? I'm a psy.
[01:09:50] I didn't do it.
[01:09:51] >> I'm a psy. I didn't shoot anyone.
[01:09:53] >> And then Jack Ruby takes me [laughter]
[01:09:55] down.
[01:09:56] >> Man, have you ever gone deep on the Jack
[01:09:58] Ruby train?
[01:09:59] >> Oh yeah.
[01:10:00] >> Oh yeah. Oh, you know who I want to
[01:10:02] interview is um the problem is I can't
[01:10:04] keep it to one subject because he's so
[01:10:06] knowledgeable. I'd love to interview
[01:10:07] Roger Stone on JFK.
[01:10:08] >> Oh, yeah.
[01:10:09] >> And I feel like I could get him on like
[01:10:10] I've got a uh a good friend of mine
[01:10:12] who's a very good friend of his.
[01:10:14] >> Uh I would love to get him to go deep on
[01:10:15] that. But the the Jack Ruby
[01:10:19] Lee Harvey Oswald scenario, I don't feel
[01:10:21] like that dynamic exists here because I
[01:10:24] don't believe
[01:10:26] um
[01:10:28] I don't believe that Tyler Robinson is
[01:10:30] an unwitting psy.
[01:10:32] >> I suspect you are correct.
[01:10:35] >> So then the next question is do you
[01:10:36] think he was recruited?
[01:10:38] >> Do you think that Tyler was recruited or
[01:10:40] do you think that Lance was blackmailed
[01:10:41] or recruited and then Tyler and
[01:10:43] obviously this is pure speculation at
[01:10:45] this point. Sure. But but do you think
[01:10:46] it's more likely that Tyler was the
[01:10:48] recruited one that brought that the
[01:10:50] these guys these random kids into this
[01:10:52] this plot or do you think it's more
[01:10:54] likely that Lance was blackmailed for
[01:10:58] something untowards and then Tyler was
[01:11:00] drugged into it to protect Lance? So the
[01:11:03] I love decision trees or a combination
[01:11:05] of both.
[01:11:05] >> Yeah. I don't know if you ever picked up
[01:11:06] on my decision trees, but I
[01:11:08] >> I do believe he is an un an a willing
[01:11:11] psy meaning he went along with a plan.
[01:11:14] He showed up at UVU and I know people I
[01:11:17] get the emails. I get your super chats
[01:11:18] that people say, "Oh, you got to prove
[01:11:19] it. Prove it." I'm just telling you it's
[01:11:21] a gut instinct. He showed up at UVU
[01:11:23] intending to be part of a crime. I don't
[01:11:24] think he jumped off of the Losi Center.
[01:11:26] I don't think he uh fired a weapon. I
[01:11:29] don't But I think he showed up thinking
[01:11:30] he was part of a a scheme that was going
[01:11:32] to result in Charlie Kirk's death. I do
[01:11:33] believe that.
[01:11:34] >> And I suspect that he knew his rifle was
[01:11:35] involved in the scheme.
[01:11:36] >> I think he took his rifle. That's my
[01:11:38] guess.
[01:11:38] >> I suspect that he he knew his rifle was
[01:11:40] going to be the the murder weapon and
[01:11:42] everything. Well, or he thought murder
[01:11:44] weapon.
[01:11:44] >> Yeah, the alleged murder weapon.
[01:11:47] >> But but so how do you end up a willing
[01:11:50] psy?
[01:11:51] Because again, someone made this point
[01:11:53] today and I can't remember. I think it
[01:11:54] was Candace right before we came on.
[01:11:56] It's not like Charlie was a huge
[01:11:58] opponent of the LGBTQ community.
[01:12:02] >> Like
[01:12:02] >> he was critical just like everyone else
[01:12:03] on the right wing. I
[01:12:04] >> mean, he spoke out against gay marriage,
[01:12:06] but look at his staff. Not. Yeah, that's
[01:12:09] that came apart. [laughter]
[01:12:13] >> Look at TPUSA's events. Look at Grinder
[01:12:16] at a TP USA event.
[01:12:18] >> There's a reason Grinder crashed in
[01:12:20] Phoenix at a
[01:12:23] >> um you know, so I think what happened
[01:12:26] was I don't think it was Tyler Robinson
[01:12:28] sitting around ringing his hand saying I
[01:12:30] just can't believe this guy's against
[01:12:33] gay marriage. Well, I mean like half the
[01:12:35] country is against gay, right? So,
[01:12:37] settle down. Um,
[01:12:40] but if you look, I mean, he surrounds
[01:12:41] himself with sexual deviants. He
[01:12:43] surrounds himself with um I stole that
[01:12:46] line from Candace today as well.
[01:12:47] >> Say closeted gay men allegedly.
[01:12:50] >> Alleg I mean, even if they're not, they
[01:12:52] look like it.
[01:12:53] >> Yeah, [laughter]
[01:12:54] >> they act like it.
[01:12:55] >> I mean, we've all seen Mikey McCoy on
[01:12:57] camera. Anyway, so we uh uh
[01:13:00] I don't think he he was truly motivated
[01:13:03] by what we're told he was motivated by.
[01:13:05] No, I think what likely happened is when
[01:13:08] you have a a guy like Lance Twigs who is
[01:13:12] allegedly transitioning, who, you know,
[01:13:14] was was exploring all facets of his
[01:13:16] sexuality, and then you got a guy like
[01:13:19] Tyler Robinson. There's nobody in the
[01:13:20] house to pump the brakes. There's nobody
[01:13:23] in the house that's like, "Hey, we
[01:13:24] shouldn't go down this road. This is
[01:13:25] dangerous." You know, I I hear what
[01:13:28] you're saying, but we're not going to
[01:13:29] look that up on the internet. I hear
[01:13:30] what you're saying, but we're not going
[01:13:31] to call that person. We're not going to
[01:13:33] meet that kid. we're not do we're not
[01:13:35] going to do these things. And I think
[01:13:37] they one of a couple things happened.
[01:13:40] One is they showed up at a Chris Hansen
[01:13:41] type meeting, but it wasn't Chris
[01:13:42] Hansen. It was step over here. We
[01:13:46] started as the office of secret uh what
[01:13:49] whatever OSS. Now we're CIA. Join us or
[01:13:52] die. Okay, so that's like option one.
[01:13:55] >> Um or it was one of those things where
[01:13:57] they were just looking at things online.
[01:13:59] They didn't necessarily go and act on
[01:14:00] it, but they might have been seeing
[01:14:01] things online and then they get the call
[01:14:03] from the agent who says, "Hey, you need
[01:14:05] to come in. We're going to have to talk
[01:14:06] to you. Um, a lot of trouble, but I
[01:14:10] think we have a solution.
[01:14:11] >> Sure, we can get you out of this." And
[01:14:13] then they sort of get developed over
[01:14:15] time and we just need you to show up at
[01:14:17] UVU, take your gun, it's going to be a
[01:14:19] thing, but don't worry, we've got it all
[01:14:20] under control.
[01:14:21] >> We got your back. You're going to be
[01:14:22] fine. You'll be all set up when it's
[01:14:24] done.
[01:14:25] >> Yep.
[01:14:26] >> We'll put money in account for you.
[01:14:28] don't worry, you're going to get hassled
[01:14:29] small. And so, you know, there's a
[01:14:32] likelihood
[01:14:33] that um that he is a willing py. You
[01:14:37] know, another version of that that I
[01:14:39] suspect is that Lance might have had
[01:14:42] something like that in his past that
[01:14:44] Tyler wasn't necessarily a part of at
[01:14:46] first,
[01:14:47] >> but then because often fear is often not
[01:14:51] like fear for yourself might not always
[01:14:53] be as good of a motivator as fear for
[01:14:55] someone you care about and trying to
[01:14:57] save someone you care about. and Tyler,
[01:14:59] their relationship, what we do know
[01:15:01] about it, you know, sketchy as it may
[01:15:03] be, it does fit in my mind the pattern
[01:15:05] of a savior mentality of a I can fix
[01:15:07] him, I can save him mentality. And so if
[01:15:09] Lance got himself into trouble that was
[01:15:11] going to put him away for a lot of
[01:15:12] years, especially if you make it sound
[01:15:14] scary, I could see maybe the psychology
[01:15:16] is then, hey, Tyler, Lance is in a lot
[01:15:19] of trouble, but we have a job.
[01:15:20] >> Have I lost
[01:15:22] >> me?
[01:15:23] >> I think I think you froze for just a
[01:15:24] second, but you're back. Go ahead.
[01:15:25] >> Yeah, I'm still here. And so it's like
[01:15:27] if they get Lance on something, they go
[01:15:29] to Tyler like listen, Lance is in a lot
[01:15:30] of trouble, but there's something you
[01:15:32] can do about it. We need help with
[01:15:34] something and you can save Lance and
[01:15:36] we'll we'll make it all go away. We'll
[01:15:38] protect him and all those things. You
[01:15:39] just have to play ball. And then you
[01:15:42] wind up in a dynam in a dynamic where
[01:15:43] they've got Lance right now
[01:15:45] >> and Tyler's playing ball. And so they
[01:15:47] have the leverage they need to keep
[01:15:48] Tyler playing ball. And Tyler is
[01:15:51] believes he has the leverage that he
[01:15:52] needs in order to keep them keeping
[01:15:54] Lance safe, so to speak.
[01:15:56] >> Where's Lance today? Just speculative.
[01:15:58] This is just us guessing. All this is
[01:15:59] just guessing.
[01:16:00] >> My speculation would be that Lance Twigs
[01:16:02] is either not among the living anymore.
[01:16:05] >> No.
[01:16:05] >> Or he's very much in witness protection
[01:16:08] type of a situation, put away, and
[01:16:10] probably never coming back out.
[01:16:12] >> Not among the living. Explain.
[01:16:15] There's a lot of versions of this
[01:16:17] scenario where Lance Twigs knows way too
[01:16:19] effing much and he is way too loose of a
[01:16:22] thread with way too loose of a mind to
[01:16:25] let him walk around.
[01:16:27] >> So why would his parents just allow
[01:16:29] that? I mean, why wouldn't they be
[01:16:30] saying, "Where's our kid?"
[01:16:31] >> Well, I don't I haven't looked enough
[01:16:33] into Lance Twix's parents. Are they like
[01:16:35] regular people that are out in the world
[01:16:37] and like
[01:16:38] >> yeah that's so
[01:16:40] >> well hey if their kid did something
[01:16:42] unspeakable and they get the same visit
[01:16:44] saying like listen your kid is going
[01:16:46] away for life right now. Um I don't know
[01:16:50] how how his Mormon family would grapple
[01:16:52] with that. I don't know how they would
[01:16:53] shut up about that. There's a lot of
[01:16:55] secreteping in the Mormon church though.
[01:16:57] and know that that just like every other
[01:17:00] community, just like every other strong
[01:17:01] religious community, the Mormon
[01:17:03] community is in no ways immune to shame,
[01:17:06] secret keeping.
[01:17:07] >> Hey, so so let me tell I know you only
[01:17:09] got 12 minutes left before you got to
[01:17:10] run, but I I um
[01:17:13] actually started two minutes early, so
[01:17:14] you have you have 15 minutes left.
[01:17:15] >> Yeah, we're chilling.
[01:17:16] >> Um
[01:17:18] early on my law practice, I was a puppy
[01:17:20] lawyer. I get I get deployed by the
[01:17:22] little firm I was working at. the first
[01:17:24] couple years I was working, I get
[01:17:25] deployed by my firm to a little small
[01:17:26] town, hour or two, maybe three hours
[01:17:29] away from where I lived at the time. And
[01:17:31] uh I'm supposed to interview this guy
[01:17:32] about an accident he saw. And this is a
[01:17:35] dinky little town in in Alabama. I can't
[01:17:37] say where because of the story I'm about
[01:17:38] to tell. Dinky little town in Alabama.
[01:17:40] And this guy
[01:17:41] >> kind of like Pangu, Utah. Dinky little
[01:17:43] town.
[01:17:44] >> He has the strongest New York accent
[01:17:46] I've ever heard. And I'm asking him
[01:17:48] questions like, "What the hell are you
[01:17:49] doing here?" He's like, "Man, I've been
[01:17:50] here for 30 years." I'm like, "Why?
[01:17:51] What?" And he's like, "Well, you got to
[01:17:53] shut up. You just got to shut up. You
[01:17:55] got to stop asking so many questions."
[01:17:57] Turns out he finally after I go and
[01:17:59] visit him a few times and we're really
[01:18:00] getting down like prepping for trial, he
[01:18:02] tells me he's in witness protection that
[01:18:04] the name I've been calling him has he
[01:18:06] was given 30 years ago. He's not seen
[01:18:09] his family talk to anyone in decades.
[01:18:12] >> Yeah.
[01:18:13] >> Yeah. I earned his trust and he told me
[01:18:14] all that and I
[01:18:16] >> I no one would ever be able to figure it
[01:18:18] out. But he he has been gone so long.
[01:18:22] >> He's probably dead by now because he was
[01:18:23] like 80 at the time. That was 15. That
[01:18:25] was 20 plus years ago. So
[01:18:26] >> Yeah. And this protection doesn't mess
[01:18:28] around.
[01:18:28] >> No, he was he was vanished off the
[01:18:30] planet. Yeah. And
[01:18:31] >> so I wonder if this kid is is, you know,
[01:18:33] got a new haircut and a new name and
[01:18:36] he's working at a, you know, Publix in
[01:18:39] in
[01:18:39] >> But that being said, witness protection
[01:18:42] is usually for a legitimate government
[01:18:45] purpose and a legitimate protective
[01:18:46] purpose as opposed to being an an asset
[01:18:50] or accomplice or, you know, witness to
[01:18:53] one of the largest cover-ups of our
[01:18:55] generation. And I think that if you're
[01:18:56] dealing with a a plot that can murder
[01:18:59] Charlie Kirk, then you're dealing with a
[01:19:02] plot that has no problem offing this
[01:19:04] problematic witness that no one even
[01:19:06] knows where he is.
[01:19:07] >> Do you think it's possible that Lance
[01:19:09] just set him up because he's a
[01:19:10] psychopath?
[01:19:12] >> I think there is there the mechanics
[01:19:14] could be in place, but then how do you
[01:19:16] get Tyler Robinson doing what he's doing
[01:19:18] today? And how do you get his attorneys
[01:19:20] not fighting for him and him smiling
[01:19:22] with them in court, right? He very much
[01:19:24] seems to be cozy with his attorneys. And
[01:19:26] his attorneys aren't doing any of the
[01:19:27] things that you might expect them to be
[01:19:29] doing like going and talking to the
[01:19:31] people at the uh old Cowboys smokehouse
[01:19:34] cafe and steakhouse that um Candace was
[01:19:36] talking about today or going to the
[01:19:37] Dairy Queen or calling any of these
[01:19:40] other leads that might have information
[01:19:41] to help get Tyler Robinson off. Right.
[01:19:44] >> Hey, let me tell you. I saw this. I I
[01:19:46] never thought I would be um uh turned on
[01:19:49] by food in Utah, but look at
[01:19:52] >> Oh, they do it right. I was looking at
[01:19:54] this smokehouse where Tyler Robinson
[01:19:56] allegedly had dinner after the uh after
[01:19:58] the Big Bang. Hey, our boys got taste.
[01:20:00] It's either DQ or classic smokehouse. I
[01:20:04] was like, I could eat at this place.
[01:20:06] >> Nice slice.
[01:20:08] >> Yeah.
[01:20:09] >> Yeah. Shout out to the Cowboy
[01:20:10] Smokehouse. And shout out to whoever at
[01:20:12] the Cowboy Smokehouse had the had the
[01:20:14] the coahones to, you know, throw or
[01:20:18] someone around the Cowboy Smokehouse. I
[01:20:19] don't know who they were, threw
[01:20:20] something in the tip line.
[01:20:22] >> Yeah. Um and shout out to Candace for
[01:20:24] running it down. It's uh got to be hard.
[01:20:27] >> Yeah. It's uh that was an interesting
[01:20:29] wrinkle she she put out today that um
[01:20:32] that you were pointing out earlier that
[01:20:33] correlates with his stop for gas that
[01:20:36] the public uncovered. Not the feds, but
[01:20:38] the public seemed to have uncovered that
[01:20:39] stop for gas.
[01:20:40] >> No, they the feds didn't the feds didn't
[01:20:42] call either of the people that had
[01:20:43] original footage of the alleged shooter
[01:20:45] running off Losi Center. Neither one.
[01:20:47] >> Uh before Candace called him. Now, maybe
[01:20:48] they have since. Um they did not call
[01:20:51] Harrison Smith asking him
[01:20:54] who told you that Charlie said he
[01:20:56] thought the the Israelis were going to
[01:20:58] kill him. Who told you that? Um they
[01:21:01] never called him. They never called
[01:21:02] people at the smokehouse, even though
[01:21:04] they've known now for months that Tyler
[01:21:06] Robinson enjoyed a nice steak and mashed
[01:21:08] potato dinner following the uh largest
[01:21:12] political assassination in 50 years.
[01:21:15] >> Um, so to me, that all adds up to a
[01:21:19] willing pathy.
[01:21:20] >> What do you make of And not I'm not
[01:21:22] trying to throw bombs here, but do you
[01:21:25] have an opinion on Dan Bonino's coming
[01:21:27] back the way he's coming back?
[01:21:30] I
[01:21:32] I've lost a lot of faith in Dan. Um I
[01:21:36] understand that when you get into that
[01:21:37] position, you are forced to see and hear
[01:21:40] things that you can't talk about that
[01:21:42] are unforgivable and un, you know,
[01:21:44] unbefitting of a mortal man. But at the
[01:21:49] same time, I don't think there's any
[01:21:50] coming back for his reputation.
[01:21:53] >> I I I honestly don't either. I forgot
[01:21:55] the police.
[01:21:55] >> I mean, if if I like if I were Dan
[01:21:57] Bonino, I like to think that I'd come
[01:21:59] back and I'd be like, "No, no, I won't
[01:22:00] say anything. I won't say anything. I
[01:22:01] won't say anything." And then just like
[01:22:03] drop it all in one live stream and then
[01:22:04] go and turn myself into the police
[01:22:07] um immediately.
[01:22:10] I like to think I would do that. I don't
[01:22:11] know if I would.
[01:22:12] >> I would because you have to imagine that
[01:22:14] there's, you know, greater threats than
[01:22:16] to your own person. What do you make of
[01:22:18] him attacking I I mean for lack of a
[01:22:21] better uh group of people? You, me,
[01:22:24] Candice, u all the people he's calling
[01:22:27] black pillars because we don't buy the
[01:22:29] fed slop narrative on all these various
[01:22:31] crimes like Epstein and Charlie Kirk.
[01:22:33] You're talking about Dan Bonino, not
[01:22:34] Alex Jones, right?
[01:22:35] >> Yes. It's the same.
[01:22:36] >> I just have to clarify. [laughter]
[01:22:39] >> That's because that's where we're at now
[01:22:40] is I just had to clarify.
[01:22:42] >> Yeah, it's the same.
[01:22:44] I think that that's really weird. I
[01:22:47] mean, I that's bizarre. Like, like, so I
[01:22:50] just played the other day on one of my
[01:22:52] live streams um Dan Bonino's clip where
[01:22:55] before he went in, he was the one
[01:22:58] talking about how his source at Fox News
[01:22:59] told him that Epstein worked for a
[01:23:01] country in the Middle East and I don't
[01:23:03] even know who they are. It's like, it's
[01:23:05] like, Dan, you can't be this dumb and
[01:23:08] also like be what you portray yourself
[01:23:10] to be. And then you get in, it's like
[01:23:11] there's something that's not adding up
[01:23:12] here. And if I'm being really generous,
[01:23:15] I can chalk it up to frustration with
[01:23:17] being unable to share the truth and
[01:23:19] being like, "F it. I'm out." That's the
[01:23:21] most generous I can get. Which is still
[01:23:23] pretty shitty of him because
[01:23:25] >> yeah,
[01:23:26] >> you're you're helping cover up Epstein.
[01:23:29] >> I thought he was going to come back out
[01:23:30] and just say, "Hey, let me just get back
[01:23:33] in the rhythm. Let me get back on the
[01:23:35] horse. Let me get back in the saddle.
[01:23:37] Get my show going again." And then over
[01:23:40] time, I will work with my attorneys,
[01:23:42] work with the ethics offices, and I will
[01:23:45] determine what it is I can share with
[01:23:47] you, what I what I'm not able to for
[01:23:49] whatever reason. Uh, but instead, he
[01:23:51] just came out just absolutely firing
[01:23:54] bombs. I mean, his first Wait, I haven't
[01:23:57] seen any of his shows yet.
[01:23:58] >> No, I'm talking about his Twitter feed.
[01:24:00] Have you seen it?
[01:24:01] >> Oh, no, I haven't.
[01:24:02] >> Oh, bro, you got to check it out. I
[01:24:04] could pull some of it up.
[01:24:05] >> Yeah, dude. But he he he uses a little
[01:24:08] fowler mouth than we normally uh really
[01:24:12] cover here on this uh on this program.
[01:24:14] But yeah, let me um where is the Dan
[01:24:20] Bino?
[01:24:24] Oh, here we go. Yeah, dude. Drop.
[01:24:26] >> He is already retweeting Tim Pool.
[01:24:28] >> Oh, no. He Hold on. I got to show you
[01:24:31] the first one here. Um,
[01:24:35] where is Oh, here it is. Yeah, you're
[01:24:37] going to love this. I know you got a few
[01:24:39] minutes left. I got time to share this
[01:24:40] with you. This is how Dan Bonino
[01:24:43] reintroduced himself to the public. Let
[01:24:46] me add this from the jump. There's so
[01:24:47] there's no confusion. I started this
[01:24:50] movement as a candidate during the Tea
[01:24:52] Party movement.
[01:24:52] >> Oh. Oh, did you?
[01:24:53] >> And I be and I began my political
[01:24:55] commentary shortly thereafter. I helped
[01:24:58] build this movement. Hey, anytime
[01:25:00] somebody comes in and they're like,
[01:25:01] "You're messing with a founder." I They
[01:25:03] lose instant credibility with me.
[01:25:05] >> Yeah.
[01:25:05] >> Right. I don't care.
[01:25:07] >> I'll I'll be the one to tell you what
[01:25:08] we're allowed to think. Thank you very
[01:25:10] much.
[01:25:11] >> Yeah. I sure as hell am not going to let
[01:25:13] this get hijacked by a group of black
[01:25:15] pillars, life losers, grifters, and
[01:25:18] bums.
[01:25:19] >> Cool. Dan,
[01:25:20] >> I'm not going to let it get hijacked by
[01:25:22] somebody who doesn't use the Oxford
[01:25:23] comma.
[01:25:23] >> I'm not going to let it get hijacked by
[01:25:25] somebody who's never read One Nation
[01:25:26] Under Mail. Dan, you should buy it. You
[01:25:29] should read it.
[01:25:30] >> Maybe then you know what the heck you're
[01:25:31] talking about.
[01:25:32] >> His whole timeline is this way. It is
[01:25:35] just bomb after bomb. You ought to get
[01:25:37] on there and check it out. That's what I
[01:25:39] mean. Like I would have come out with a
[01:25:41] little bit of humility. I went in
[01:25:43] telling people I was going to
[01:25:45] >> get to the bottom of Epstein and get to
[01:25:46] the bottom of what happened
[01:25:47] >> the room. Danny boy.
[01:25:49] >> Yeah. Hey Dan, while you've been there,
[01:25:51] life has moved on.
[01:25:53] >> Yeah. The movement is still sitting back
[01:25:56] wanting what we were promised during the
[01:25:58] 2024 election. What you were explicitly
[01:26:01] put in to give us.
[01:26:02] >> Yeah.
[01:26:02] >> And explicitly promised us you would do
[01:26:04] on day one.
[01:26:06] >> Yeah. Like I still want Hillary locked
[01:26:08] up.
[01:26:09] >> Yeah.
[01:26:09] >> I still want to know where the 30,000
[01:26:11] emails are
[01:26:12] >> and Bill and
[01:26:13] >> all the rest of them.
[01:26:14] >> That's the thing is I have never moved
[01:26:16] on from any of these things. I have
[01:26:18] never moved on from one single iota of
[01:26:22] any of these issues. No,
[01:26:24] >> I want all the January people locked up.
[01:26:26] I want the Hunter Biden locked up. I
[01:26:28] don't care how cute he was on Tucker
[01:26:30] Carlson. Now you He wasn't as good as
[01:26:31] you on Tucker Carlson.
[01:26:32] >> Hey, [laughter]
[01:26:34] >> if you've not checked out Ian on Tucker
[01:26:36] Carlson.
[01:26:36] >> I should have smoked a bunch more crack
[01:26:38] before I went on Tucker. Maybe I would
[01:26:39] have been cuter.
[01:26:40] >> Um yeah. Um Cernovich tried that
[01:26:43] approach. [laughter]
[01:26:45] >> Yeah, I saw that today and I was like,
[01:26:46] "Yeah, let's not comment on it."
[01:26:48] >> Yeah. No, I like Mike. Um I don't I
[01:26:51] don't dislike Mike. I don't always agree
[01:26:52] with him. Um but I have liked him for
[01:26:54] for many many years and um
[01:26:58] you know he um he's a sharp guy. He just
[01:27:02] >> he's just not very sharp when it comes
[01:27:03] to 30 odd sixes hitting necks
[01:27:05] apparently.
[01:27:06] >> I was just very disappointed in his
[01:27:08] interview honestly. I I on almost every
[01:27:11] issue I thought man where's Mike gone?
[01:27:14] Yeah,
[01:27:14] >> maybe that's why he's sort of taking a
[01:27:16] backseat to the uh the public life. But
[01:27:18] no,
[01:27:18] >> it's interesting to see the divides in
[01:27:21] alternative media personalities and try
[01:27:24] to understand what of it is authentic
[01:27:26] and what of it is in inauthentic in
[01:27:28] terms of who is buying this Fed
[01:27:30] narrative and who's not because it is a
[01:27:33] real interesting dividing line um
[01:27:36] amongst commentators and amongst people
[01:27:38] that had credibility, have credibility,
[01:27:41] have been here, have been around. A lot
[01:27:43] of people have exposed themselves
[01:27:45] >> um as being either completely paid for
[01:27:48] or as being just dumb or as being
[01:27:52] questionable. Um like you saw you saw
[01:27:55] the footage that Alex Jones was talking
[01:27:57] about coming out and touring with TP
[01:27:58] USA.
[01:28:01] That's weird.
[01:28:02] >> Yeah. I mean
[01:28:04] that's uncomfortable, bro. So, one of
[01:28:07] the I always tell people my favorite
[01:28:09] part of Donald Trump in 2016 is he broke
[01:28:12] down the narrative that there were
[01:28:14] Republicans and Democrats and that was
[01:28:16] the big divide in America. What he
[01:28:18] showed was no, there's a giant uni party
[01:28:20] that's like 85% of the elected officials
[01:28:22] and commentariat
[01:28:24] >> and then there's everybody else who's
[01:28:25] like 15% and some of those are on the
[01:28:27] right, some of those are on the left,
[01:28:28] but it's us versus them. And I still
[01:28:30] feel like I'm in the 15% looking back at
[01:28:33] Goliath going,
[01:28:34] >> you know, and but I always felt like I
[01:28:36] had people on the team with me like
[01:28:38] Cernovich, like Alex Jones.
[01:28:41] >> Yeah.
[01:28:42] >> You know, and I I thought I had these
[01:28:43] same people, you know, initially
[01:28:47] I'd say back in uh 2015, I kind of
[01:28:50] thought Ben Shapiro might be one of
[01:28:51] those people or Sean Hannity might be
[01:28:54] one of those people.
[01:28:55] >> Yeah. And then you look and you get
[01:28:57] through here and you're like, "No, it's
[01:28:58] it's Tucker. It's uh Candace. It's Ian.
[01:29:02] I've got like five people that are still
[01:29:04] [laughter]
[01:29:05] there.
[01:29:06] >> There's not a whole lot."
[01:29:08] >> No. No. So, uh,
[01:29:10] >> but the nice thing is that the the
[01:29:12] independent media is spawning more every
[01:29:13] day. The difficult thing is that it's
[01:29:15] spawning more feds every day, too. And
[01:29:16] it's hard to distinguish what's what.
[01:29:19] And I've taken the I've taken the
[01:29:20] approach of just not trusting anybody
[01:29:22] and not and just verifying everything
[01:29:24] for myself and just open source
[01:29:25] reporting everything and especially I
[01:29:27] actually so I was talking to Sean
[01:29:29] Johnson on his podcast last night and I
[01:29:31] think it's coming out tomorrow. Um and
[01:29:33] we were talking about what how do you
[01:29:36] like see through it all and um and what
[01:29:38] I was talking he was making analogy to
[01:29:40] the casino of how of like I forget and I
[01:29:42] was like I don't think that's a good
[01:29:43] analogy man. You're making analogy to
[01:29:45] like the the casino people betting
[01:29:48] against the house. And it's like no,
[01:29:49] it's like the better analogy is don't
[01:29:52] watch the people, watch the house.
[01:29:54] Because a casino doesn't want the
[01:29:55] professional gamblers in there. They
[01:29:57] want this. They want the stooges. They
[01:29:58] want the NPCs to come in and just give
[01:30:00] their money away. But when a
[01:30:01] professional gambler walks into a
[01:30:02] casino, they don't get treated good.
[01:30:05] They don't get treated the same way.
[01:30:06] They kick them out. If you're counting
[01:30:07] cards, if you're if you're winning at
[01:30:08] their game, they kick you out. and they
[01:30:10] will they will do everything they can to
[01:30:12] harass you and like try to take your
[01:30:14] winnings and and and whatever they can
[01:30:15] to ban you. And and what I do now is
[01:30:17] when I look at the media environment, I
[01:30:19] look for who are those professional
[01:30:20] gamblers that the casino is trying to
[01:30:21] kick out because the people that like,
[01:30:24] you know, the fish at the table, the big
[01:30:25] high rollers that are spending all their
[01:30:26] money that seem to be the center of
[01:30:28] attention, the stars of the show when
[01:30:30] everything's going normally, it's like,
[01:30:31] oh, it'd be easy to think that that guy
[01:30:33] is, you know, the the guy that's going
[01:30:35] to give me my news. But then you realize
[01:30:37] when when the chips are really down on
[01:30:38] the table, you realize that it's the
[01:30:40] ones that the casino doesn't want at the
[01:30:42] table. They're the ones that are that
[01:30:44] are not singing the same song as
[01:30:46] everybody else. And I think the Charlie
[01:30:48] Kirk investigation more so than almost
[01:30:49] any investigation has exposed the the
[01:30:53] sharks and the fish, has exposed who's
[01:30:55] on the team and and who's not, or at
[01:30:57] least who's willing to parrot the
[01:30:58] narrative for the right price or the
[01:31:01] right threats or the right whatever it
[01:31:03] is, right?
[01:31:04] >> It it's Trump 2.0. Um, Trump came in in
[01:31:08] 2016 and he showed us who was who was
[01:31:10] America first and who was uh part of the
[01:31:13] uni party beast and swamp and then he
[01:31:16] left and when he came back the second
[01:31:17] time now we're having to re-evaluate but
[01:31:19] it's Charlie
[01:31:20] >> changed.
[01:31:21] >> Yeah. If you would have if you would
[01:31:23] have told me 12 months ago, you know, a
[01:31:26] month before Trump took office, Trump
[01:31:27] 2.0 I took office. If you'd have told
[01:31:29] me, hey, one year from now,
[01:31:32] Alex Jones is going to be paritting the
[01:31:36] TPUSA line and speaking at their events.
[01:31:40] I couldn't have imagined a scenario.
[01:31:42] >> Yeah.
[01:31:43] >> Could not have imagined a scenario.
[01:31:45] >> Yeah.
[01:31:45] >> Um Ian, you got Do you have to run or do
[01:31:47] you want to hang out?
[01:31:48] >> Yeah, I do have to run. Um I got to go
[01:31:50] get ready. But it has been real, man.
[01:31:52] It's been a real pleasure and thanks for
[01:31:54] having me on. We we I think we peaked
[01:31:56] over 35,000 live.
[01:31:57] >> Oh yeah.
[01:31:58] >> Yeah.
[01:31:59] >> That's cool. Yeah. I don't get to see
[01:32:00] the live viewers on my end of the screen
[01:32:01] here.
[01:32:02] >> Yeah. We're at 346 right now. We peaked
[01:32:04] over 35,000.
[01:32:05] >> Dude, you've had the most incredible
[01:32:06] rise and welldeserved of anyone on
[01:32:09] YouTube this year. It's so cool to watch
[01:32:11] and it's so cool because you like every
[01:32:13] like I have to watch your show every day
[01:32:14] because I have to keep up with what
[01:32:16] you're doing because you just keep
[01:32:17] breaking new stuff. You keep pushing the
[01:32:19] investigation forwards. Like you are
[01:32:21] like absolutely changing the game out
[01:32:23] here. So, it's so cool to be a part of
[01:32:26] it and to learn from you and to get to
[01:32:27] do a show with you. It's awesome, man.
[01:32:28] >> Well, it's it's I'll tell you, I
[01:32:30] wouldn't be here. There wouldn't be
[01:32:31] 35,000 people watching the two of us if
[01:32:33] I wasn't driving to Kroger to get gas
[01:32:35] one day and I I had the phone on my
[01:32:37] dashboard and and and I heard you say,
[01:32:39] "Hey, uh, I'm going to spend tonight I'm
[01:32:41] going to go over about two hours worth
[01:32:42] of this new guy I just found. I watched
[01:32:44] 20 hours of his stuff the last couple of
[01:32:46] days. His name's Baron Coleman." I was
[01:32:47] like,
[01:32:47] >> "Yeah, I did the deep dive on on all
[01:32:49] your early Google Trends content."
[01:32:51] >> Yeah. I had to call my wife and say,
[01:32:52] "Hey, turn Ian on real quick. This is
[01:32:54] probably [laughter]
[01:32:56] >> But that's the cool thing about the
[01:32:57] media environment now is that it's like
[01:32:58] if you provide value to the the
[01:33:01] narratives, the questions, the things we
[01:33:02] all want to know. Anyone that provides
[01:33:04] value can immediately be valuable
[01:33:06] because it's like we just like anyone
[01:33:08] can turn on a camera and investigate and
[01:33:10] share something that changes the case."
[01:33:12] And the Google trends were a great
[01:33:13] example of something that changed the
[01:33:14] case early on and you've just kept on
[01:33:16] that same spirit of just investigating
[01:33:18] all sorts of different leads and
[01:33:19] bringing all kinds of great perspective
[01:33:21] to it. So, I have a lot of fun.
[01:33:22] >> Really cool to watch.
[01:33:23] >> I got you to thank. If you are watching
[01:33:25] on Ian's channel, come over, give me a
[01:33:26] subscribe. Give me a like on the video.
[01:33:28] If you're watching on my channel on
[01:33:30] Baron Coleman, a real Baron podcast,
[01:33:32] flip over uh click on Ian's, click a
[01:33:34] like, click a subscribe there. And uh
[01:33:37] Ian, I've enjoyed this. I'm going to
[01:33:38] stay on a little bit. Um talk.
[01:33:40] >> Yeah, I suspect that if you're watching
[01:33:41] on my YouTube, I suspect that it's about
[01:33:43] to die on you and you got to go over to
[01:33:45] Baron to watch the rest of the show. Um,
[01:33:47] and I do highly encourage you to do that
[01:33:49] because Baron is always dropping both
[01:33:51] sass, spice, humor, and a whole bunch of
[01:33:55] like actual really interesting
[01:33:56] information. Um, so
[01:33:58] >> thanks for having me on, man.
[01:34:00] >> I've been very calm tonight.
[01:34:01] >> You have been? Yeah. I think I've helped
[01:34:02] I've helped Romelo out.
[01:34:04] >> Yeah.
[01:34:04] >> And Joe wasn't We didn't have time to
[01:34:06] read Joe's chats tonight. So,
[01:34:08] >> someone said earlier there, it's bad cop
[01:34:09] and chill cop. [laughter]
[01:34:12] >> You're the chill cop.
[01:34:13] >> Yes, sir.
[01:34:14] >> All right, man. I appreciate it. We'll
[01:34:15] do it again. been real and I will we'll
[01:34:17] definitely do it again, man. Hey
[01:34:18] everybody, thanks for having me on.
[01:34:19] Baron's audience. Love you guys. Thanks
[01:34:21] chat. Y'all are the best. See you next
[01:34:23] time.
[01:34:25] >> All right, guys. Let me uh run through
[01:34:26] some of these super chats again. I
[01:34:28] appreciate you hanging on. Um this has
[01:34:30] been great. Ian, we've been we've been
[01:34:32] trying to get one of these shows
[01:34:33] together for quite some time and uh
[01:34:35] we're finally able to do it. Finally
[01:34:37] able to get it together. So, uh, let me
[01:34:40] know if you,
[01:34:44] um,
[01:34:47] let me know if I'm still on air.
[01:34:50] [laughter] I don't even know. Uh,
[01:34:53] okay. Yes. Yeah, we're I think I'm still
[01:34:55] on. So, let me, uh, run through some of
[01:34:57] these super chats and, uh, we'll kind of
[01:35:01] finish like we do a normal show. Uh
[01:35:03] Baron and Ian, the irony of independent
[01:35:05] media on YouTube not being beholden to
[01:35:08] sponsors or donors burns me up as much
[01:35:11] as I watch how much you have to self
[01:35:13] censor. Thoughts also mad respect to you
[01:35:16] both. PS
[01:35:18] Birmingham hamster. Um my thoughts on
[01:35:21] that uh yes we still have to self censor
[01:35:24] because we still are operating in their
[01:35:28] environment. We are still on a gle
[01:35:32] platform, right? We are still uh y u t-
[01:35:36] u b is still owned by gouble o gle. And
[01:35:39] so yes, I have to selfse excuse me ce n
[01:35:42] s o r. That's just part of it. That's
[01:35:44] just part of it. Uh you got to play the
[01:35:46] game with the hand you're dealt. You got
[01:35:47] to play by the rules
[01:35:50] um that exist in the game. So uh curious
[01:35:54] Joe. Curious Joel. Bold prediction.
[01:35:57] Baron and Ian are in matching magenta
[01:35:58] hoodies tonight. Wrong. Uh text on both
[01:36:02] hoodies reads, "I'm with homie." And has
[01:36:04] a finger that points in the direction of
[01:36:05] the other person. For real though,
[01:36:06] Coleman Carol, stop the slop 28 ticket.
[01:36:09] I'm a down. I'm down as long as he'll be
[01:36:11] the president and I can be the vice
[01:36:12] president. I think he's Yeah, he's old
[01:36:14] enough to be president, right? He's 35,
[01:36:16] isn't he? I notice he has no gray hair
[01:36:18] in his mustache. So, he's not much older
[01:36:21] than 35, but I think he's 35. So, I'll
[01:36:23] give him the top of the ticket. I'll be
[01:36:25] on the couch. I'll be in the pool. I'll
[01:36:28] just be flying around on the SAM flights
[01:36:31] visiting the world having a good time.
[01:36:34] Uh about to drop my story that Yanni New
[01:36:37] York City Harvard 6768 back to Israel
[01:36:39] for duty dies operation thunderbolt.
[01:36:42] July 76 Barack help plan Epstein born
[01:36:45] New York City appears late 76
[01:36:47] handwriting. That's a lot of stuff. I'm
[01:36:49] not following it but I do want to see
[01:36:50] that story. Um so please send me an
[01:36:53] email with a link to that. I would like
[01:36:54] to watch that.
[01:36:56] um because I want to see you've been
[01:36:58] talking about it for a while and I'm
[01:37:00] curious to watch it. Very, very
[01:37:01] genuinely curious to watch it. So, thank
[01:37:02] you. Um
[01:37:05] thank you for that. Thank you for that.
[01:37:06] And uh thank you for sending that my way
[01:37:08] and I look forward to the opportunity to
[01:37:12] uh to see that regulators mount up. Just
[01:37:16] hit the end of Mrs. Candace on a mission
[01:37:19] trying to find
[01:37:21] ah hit the end of Mrs. C on a mission
[01:37:23] trying to find Baron and ENC. See, in a
[01:37:25] car full of security G's, ain't no need
[01:37:27] to tweak because we all know what's up
[01:37:29] with Harpole's integrity.
[01:37:32] Uh, the 40omes know the beat. Yes, we
[01:37:34] do. We are Warren G fans. All of us just
[01:37:36] common sensing it. Thank you for that uh
[01:37:38] very very generous u donation. Yo, my
[01:37:42] favorite sleuth guys got the foyer sent
[01:37:45] for the signing sheets both buildings.
[01:37:47] Um, now you go outside, you kid. You
[01:37:49] kid. Hey, uh, thank you for doing that.
[01:37:52] We need more cit. Look, when Ian was
[01:37:54] talking about citizen journalists at the
[01:37:55] end, this is exactly what he's talking
[01:37:56] about. Get outside, get your camera, and
[01:38:00] start uh looking at stuff. Get talk to
[01:38:02] people, make phone calls, send text
[01:38:04] messages, file the foyas, bring it all
[01:38:07] to the surface. If you don't have your
[01:38:09] own YouTube, you don't have your own
[01:38:11] Twitter to break these things. If you
[01:38:12] have a Twitter feed and you break news
[01:38:14] and it's good, it's going to rise. I
[01:38:15] mean, people will figure out where it
[01:38:16] is.
[01:38:18] But if not, send it to a tip line, send
[01:38:20] it to Candace, send it to Ian, send it
[01:38:21] to me. We will get it out. We will get
[01:38:23] it out. Uh, love your show. My husband
[01:38:26] delivered a package to your house today.
[01:38:28] He got a picture with you and I got your
[01:38:29] autograph. I remember that. Thank you
[01:38:32] for helping us find the truth. I don't
[01:38:34] know if you want me to say your name, so
[01:38:35] I'm not going to, but um, hi.
[01:38:40] Hello.
[01:38:41] I won't say your name out loud, Nexi,
[01:38:43] Angel, but uh, yes, that did happen. And
[01:38:45] we took a nice picture and uh, had a
[01:38:48] good chat. He was a great guy. Uh, you
[01:38:50] got yourself a keeper. Hang on tight.
[01:38:52] Hang on tight.
[01:38:55] Uh Ian, do not let Baron touch any
[01:38:57] technology. See, and he was the one that
[01:38:59] came in on mute. [laughter]
[01:39:01] Baron, I'm being 31. At 31, it doesn't
[01:39:03] even hurt to sleep. That's the sweet
[01:39:04] spot right there. It really is, Rose.
[01:39:07] It really is. Um I woke up this morning
[01:39:10] and both my shoulders hurt and I
[01:39:11] thought, how did I hurt shoulders in my
[01:39:13] sleep? I didn't do anything today.
[01:39:15] I'm here to bet green on the Adidas
[01:39:17] sweatshirt since he switched up and wore
[01:39:18] red to show his rage yesterday. I try to
[01:39:20] drop in every show with 20 to support
[01:39:23] Real Baron podcast, especially since
[01:39:25] you're a real professional. Now, thank
[01:39:27] you, Caitlyn. Uh, I do appreciate that.
[01:39:30] Uh, let me say something about that real
[01:39:32] quickly. Uh, while we're going through
[01:39:33] super chats, often, not every show, but
[01:39:36] often I get more super chats than I
[01:39:38] could possibly read. And I want to be
[01:39:40] very sincere when I tell you this. I I
[01:39:42] love everyone. I do read everyone. I go
[01:39:44] back after the show. I promise you, I
[01:39:46] sit down and I read every single one.
[01:39:48] now. And a lot of them I read while I'm
[01:39:51] going. Uh, but I cannot bring everyone
[01:39:54] to the surface. I had over 400 super
[01:39:56] chats yesterday. Um, I think I end up
[01:40:00] reading well over 200 of them, but I did
[01:40:02] skip quite a few because I can't get to
[01:40:04] them all. But what when you give a super
[01:40:06] chat, it will reach me even if I don't
[01:40:08] pull it up on screen and read it out
[01:40:10] loud. Uh, I do read it. I do see it.
[01:40:13] Plus, it is marked with a color so that
[01:40:15] as the chat is going by, other people
[01:40:17] will see it. and it's preserved at the
[01:40:19] top. So, you'll get your message out to
[01:40:20] them as well. Uh, but just I'm telling
[01:40:23] you, I cannot pull up every single one.
[01:40:26] Um, but I do want to pull this one up
[01:40:29] because I am very dearly sorry. I kind
[01:40:31] of did make fun of your dead cat, but
[01:40:36] the comedy is worth it. [laughter]
[01:40:39] The comedy is worth it. And you forgave
[01:40:41] me, so it it worked out uh on both. It
[01:40:44] worked out on both. Uh, was Martin
[01:40:46] Luther King Jr. also killed by an
[01:40:48] exploding mic. Do do we believe it was a
[01:40:50] 306? I don't know what killed him. Uh I
[01:40:53] do know that if he was hit by a 306, it
[01:40:56] did substantially more damage than it
[01:40:57] did to Charlie Kirk. It go look at the
[01:40:59] autopsy drawings. They don't have the
[01:41:01] photos, I don't believe, released of
[01:41:02] Martin Luther King, but they do have the
[01:41:03] drawing and the whole side of his neck
[01:41:04] is missing.
[01:41:07] So I
[01:41:09] I just don't
[01:41:12] I don't know if that's the point you're
[01:41:14] making.
[01:41:16] How can Candace be helped legally to get
[01:41:18] Ben Shapiro to stop harassing her since
[01:41:20] he fired her? I don't think he can. I
[01:41:22] mean, he's he's free to to make parody
[01:41:24] content if he wants. He's free to
[01:41:25] appropriate her content for commercial
[01:41:27] purposes if he is using it for fair use
[01:41:29] under copyright law here in the United
[01:41:31] States. Um he is free to use it for uh
[01:41:34] however it is he uses it for um
[01:41:38] for uh um
[01:41:42] oh gosh, what's the word I'm looking
[01:41:43] for? for um
[01:41:48] I I don't even know the right word I'm
[01:41:49] looking for, but he's free to use it. Uh
[01:41:52] now, morally, is it shameful? Sure. Uh
[01:41:55] you know, is it more [ __ ] horse
[01:41:57] behavior? Yes. Yes. Poor [ __ ] horse.
[01:42:00] Poor [ __ ] horse, but it's [ __ ] horse
[01:42:02] behavior. But now he's got he's on it.
[01:42:04] Alex is on that [ __ ] horse. Gary
[01:42:06] blinking Gary's on the [ __ ] horse. I
[01:42:09] mean, the [ __ ] that the [ __ ] horse
[01:42:11] is doing so much work right now. So much
[01:42:14] work right now. Uh, with my two favorite
[01:42:16] commentary guys going max together, I
[01:42:18] had to send my first ever super. Truth
[01:42:19] is stranger than fiction. We don't Joe
[01:42:22] because we know. Thank you, Amy. That's
[01:42:24] a that's a different spin on the We
[01:42:25] don't Joe, but we Joe. We don't Jojo
[01:42:27] because we know. Uh, very nicely done.
[01:42:30] Very nicely done. Uh, IQ overload
[01:42:34] coming. Gentlemen, start your engines.
[01:42:35] Yes, we had a big time. We had a big
[01:42:37] time. Uh, for the Hiller reference last
[01:42:39] night, CrossFit, I got mad season. I got
[01:42:41] a U. So, I didn't know if anyone would
[01:42:44] pick up on that Hiller reference. I
[01:42:46] don't even remember what it was. Oh, I
[01:42:48] know what it was. It was me uh going,
[01:42:50] "Is that true?" [laughter]
[01:42:53] Uh, I'll be honest. Hey, this Mad
[01:42:55] Season, this is for you. When I was
[01:42:57] watching my subscription numbers, I I
[01:43:01] realized quickly that I was about to
[01:43:02] cross Hiller, and it was a true moment.
[01:43:05] Like I had an emotional reaction. My
[01:43:07] Mrs. Coleman can tell you that. I had a
[01:43:08] very emotional reaction to that because
[01:43:10] I had looked at Hiller as like somebody
[01:43:12] I looked up to. I love his content. Um
[01:43:16] and uh
[01:43:18] and that was that was interesting. That
[01:43:20] was I I I don't believe Charlie faked
[01:43:23] it. This person says Charlie faked it.
[01:43:24] He sees Hunter looks the master key. I I
[01:43:26] don't I don't think Charlie faked it. I
[01:43:29] think he's dead.
[01:43:31] But there is a question in my mind, and
[01:43:34] I'm not I don't know that everybody
[01:43:36] believes this, but there is at least a
[01:43:38] question in my mind whether or not
[01:43:41] Charlie knew
[01:43:43] something was happening
[01:43:46] and then someone took advantage of that
[01:43:48] to take him out. I don't know that. I
[01:43:50] have explored that mentally. This is a
[01:43:52] this is a mental exercise for me. I
[01:43:55] don't know. No know, but I but I don't
[01:43:58] even know.
[01:44:00] I it's possible Charlie thought he was
[01:44:02] in on some kind of faking and then he
[01:44:04] was taken out anyway. That's possible.
[01:44:06] I' I've explored it. I'm not saying it's
[01:44:09] even more than 50% likely. I'm not
[01:44:11] saying I believe it. I'm just saying I
[01:44:12] have mentally run through that exercise.
[01:44:16] Mentally run through that exercise. Best
[01:44:18] night ever. Love Ian and Baron. Well, we
[01:44:21] love you living for his glory daily.
[01:44:24] That's a fact. Hey Baze, God bless you
[01:44:26] both. You and Ian. God bless you both.
[01:44:29] Uh you guys were fantastic.
[01:44:32] Thank you, Baze. Very uh very kind gift.
[01:44:34] Uh so excited. Thank you for doing this
[01:44:36] collab, watching both of you to support
[01:44:38] you both. Well, thank you. Just say
[01:44:39] Julie. We we like that kind of
[01:44:40] proflegate uh internet bandwidth
[01:44:42] consumption. As someone who considers
[01:44:45] themselves an an agnostic atheist, an
[01:44:47] agnostic theist, that's an interesting
[01:44:50] uh I've never heard of that. I I'll
[01:44:52] explore that in just a second. The way
[01:44:54] organizations like TP have
[01:44:56] commercialized faith in Christianity is
[01:44:58] disgusting. They are capitalistic
[01:45:01] performative Christians who use the
[01:45:03] faith as a shield
[01:45:05] from criticism. Uh let me explore real
[01:45:08] quickly the um the idea of an agnostic
[01:45:14] theist. So a the Latin a means without.
[01:45:19] Gnostic means knowledge. I am without
[01:45:22] knowledge. Well, if you're without
[01:45:23] knowledge of whether or not there's a
[01:45:25] God, you are without belief of a God.
[01:45:27] You've not yet been convinced there's a
[01:45:28] God. So, you're an atheist. No, I mean,
[01:45:32] it sounds ugly, but it's just, you know,
[01:45:34] logically that's how it flows. It's it's
[01:45:36] it's axiomatic that if you're without
[01:45:38] knowledge that there's a God, then you
[01:45:39] are without belief in a God because you
[01:45:42] can't believe in something you don't
[01:45:43] know exists.
[01:45:45] So, I've never heard someone describe
[01:45:47] themselves as an agnostic theist. That's
[01:45:49] a little different. Um, but I'll allow
[01:45:51] it. I'll allow it for all those a book.
[01:45:53] No, I'm just kidding. Uh, thank you very
[01:45:55] much. Thank you. Thank you very very
[01:45:56] much. Uh, on the Grumblers, the
[01:45:58] Grumblers got a super coming in. Nice
[01:46:01] key lime piecolored hoodie. Please look
[01:46:03] for an email I sent of shrapnel passing
[01:46:05] through CK's legs. Slow down. Great
[01:46:08] collaboration with Ian tonight. You guys
[01:46:09] are doing the Lord's work. Well, thank
[01:46:11] you. That was very kind of you. That was
[01:46:14] very kind. And I'll look for it. I'll
[01:46:15] look for it. Real barren
[01:46:16] podcastmail.com. real Baronodcast
[01:46:19] atgmail.com.
[01:46:22] Uh, let me see here.
[01:46:26] Um, yeah, there it is. Real
[01:46:28] [email protected].
[01:46:30] Don't forget to subscribe to the
[01:46:33] program. Subscribe to Ian as well.
[01:46:34] Subscribe to me. Hit notifications. Hit
[01:46:36] like uh subscribe, like, notifications,
[01:46:40] all that good stuff. Oh, and don't
[01:46:42] forget you can you can do that. I don't
[01:46:44] want to say it too loud on the air, but
[01:46:46] you're more than welcome to do that as
[01:46:47] well. That's a way to support the
[01:46:49] program. Uh, two of my favorite homies.
[01:46:52] Well, you are two of my favorite homies,
[01:46:54] Abby Landis. Uh, Ian is definitely one
[01:46:56] of my favorite homies and now you have
[01:46:58] been elevated. You have been elevated to
[01:47:00] the game. Uh, family of 10 stacked like
[01:47:03] sardines on my bed watching our favorite
[01:47:05] YouTubers. Wouldn't trade it for
[01:47:06] anything. Well, thank you, Daily. You
[01:47:09] sure do appreciate it. Very, very kind
[01:47:11] of very, very kind. Uh, fired my 300 6
[01:47:14] yesterday. Ain't no blanking way, bro.
[01:47:17] Yeah, that's the way I feel. Highway
[01:47:19] Nikki, that's the way I feel. I fired a
[01:47:21] 300 6, also known as a cannon.
[01:47:25] [laughter]
[01:47:26] Also known as a cannon. Uh, favorite
[01:47:29] podcast is finally together. Love this.
[01:47:31] Thank you. Well, thank you for joining
[01:47:33] us. Thank you. Um, again, I if you guys
[01:47:36] don't join us, it's just Ian and Baron
[01:47:39] talking to each other, and that's not
[01:47:42] very fun.
[01:47:43] That's not very fun. But when you join
[01:47:46] us, the whole show takes on a different
[01:47:48] dynamic. Uh Charlie's neck was pierced
[01:47:51] by his necklace pendant. Totally
[01:47:53] unexpected reason for the Fed's sloppy
[01:47:55] aftermath. The one thing they couldn't
[01:47:58] plan for. Um
[01:48:01] so like 50% of me believes his neck was
[01:48:04] pierced by the pendant and 50% of me
[01:48:07] believe or like 48 49.44% 44% of me
[01:48:13] believes that his neck was pierced by
[01:48:16] something else under his shirt. Perhaps
[01:48:18] a shape charge coming out of the uh
[01:48:20] microphone. I don't know.
[01:48:24] I just know it wasn't a 30 out of six. I
[01:48:27] know it wasn't 3006
[01:48:29] because I'm with Highway Nikki. Ain't no
[01:48:32] way. Ain't no way. Ain't no blanking
[01:48:35] way. Uh Charlie's Neck. Oh yeah, I just
[01:48:38] read that one. That's right. obsessed
[01:48:39] with this duo. Well, thank you, my newfi
[01:48:42] sisters or Newfi sisters. Uh, this might
[01:48:46] be 10 fat tinfoil hat territory. Well,
[01:48:48] you've come to the right place.
[01:48:49] [laughter]
[01:48:51] Crash and burn. Anytime you want to put
[01:48:53] on your tinfoil hat, you just come on
[01:48:54] in. The water's warm over here. Think
[01:48:57] Erica and JD Vance might secretly be
[01:48:59] brother and sister.
[01:49:01] They look identical, both from Ohio. A
[01:49:04] lot of people from Ohio. You really
[01:49:05] think that?
[01:49:08] You really think that? That's wild.
[01:49:13] Hold on. Erica and Erica Kirk and JD
[01:49:18] Vance side by side. Let me let me check
[01:49:20] this out. Uh get some images of them
[01:49:24] side by side. I will let you guys watch
[01:49:27] as I look side by side. Let's look
[01:49:29] together. Uh Eric Kirk and JD Vance side
[01:49:33] by side.
[01:49:37] Uh, well, that one kind of actually,
[01:49:40] they both have kind of
[01:49:43] pudgy faces.
[01:49:45] Um,
[01:49:46] you know what they both remind me of?
[01:49:48] This is going to be ugly and I shouldn't
[01:49:49] say it.
[01:49:51] My wife would tell me every time I say
[01:49:53] out loud, this is going to be ugly and I
[01:49:55] shouldn't say it, that I ought not say
[01:49:56] it, but I'm probably going to. They both
[01:49:59] remind me of like really fat kids just
[01:50:01] dying to get out. like deep inside their
[01:50:05] body. Like they're both pretty
[01:50:06] good-looking people. Uh they're both
[01:50:07] pretty fit, you know, in shape, but both
[01:50:09] of them just seem like just screaming
[01:50:12] fat kids bang banging on that skin suit
[01:50:14] like, "Let me let me out here. GIVE ME
[01:50:16] SOME OREOS. [laughter]
[01:50:18] I WANT A WHOLE STACK OF OREOS. GET ME
[01:50:20] OUT OF HERE, PLEASE."
[01:50:23] [laughter]
[01:50:24] That's what they remind me of. I don't
[01:50:26] know if it's true or not. I don't know
[01:50:28] if they're brother or sister or not, but
[01:50:30] they both have that kind of thing going
[01:50:31] for them.
[01:50:33] Uh, the podium shadow at Amfest
[01:50:35] confirmed it. Erica has a tail. Yes.
[01:50:37] Yes. I promised Ian I would wouldn't do
[01:50:41] Erica's voice tonight. I promised him. I
[01:50:44] told I said, "Hey, you if you come on, I
[01:50:47] will not do Erica's demon voice." And he
[01:50:49] said, "Deal confirmed."
[01:50:52] So, I'm going to stick with it even
[01:50:53] though he's gone. Uh, has there ever
[01:50:54] been a grieving widow in history that
[01:50:56] one asked to be videotaped crying over
[01:50:58] her husband a casket publicly shared?
[01:50:59] That was creepy and weird.
[01:51:02] to repeatedly lie about her husband's
[01:51:03] murder. Also creepy and weird. Uh not
[01:51:07] fire or sue her security, his security.
[01:51:11] Hold please.
[01:51:14] Hold please. Uh sick monster. Well,
[01:51:19] I'm not going to comment on that last
[01:51:21] two words, but uh I think the the not
[01:51:24] fire su security might be
[01:51:27] a little premature to guess that. But
[01:51:30] the the lying and the the I'm sorry,
[01:51:32] guys. The that was weird. The whole the
[01:51:35] whole like whispering to his coffin
[01:51:37] while somebody's videoing you with an
[01:51:39] iPhone 20 or No, I mean, come on. That's
[01:51:41] weird. That's weird. It's even weirder
[01:51:45] if they weren't like surreptitiously
[01:51:46] doing it with an iPhone, but they had
[01:51:48] like a, you know, one of those whole cam
[01:51:50] cameras on a gimbal and they were
[01:51:51] walking around and they're like, "Lean
[01:51:53] in, lean in. Really put your hands on
[01:51:55] top of his head." Oh yeah. Get in there,
[01:51:56] good girl.
[01:51:59] It's like It's like a really bad Only
[01:52:02] fans
[01:52:04] like
[01:52:06] Necroilia had a kind of feel. It was
[01:52:09] creepy. Absolutely creepy. Uh, I'm like
[01:52:12] watching on blank deck speed. [laughter]
[01:52:17] You can't watch it at that speed. You
[01:52:19] wouldn't be able to understand what was
[01:52:20] happening. [laughter]
[01:52:22] It would tear up your uh your feed. No,
[01:52:25] no. There's no internet service that
[01:52:27] provides Blake neck speed. No, no, no,
[01:52:30] no, no. Uh, you two and Candace and
[01:52:32] Tucker equals truth. Can y'all run this
[01:52:34] country, please? Happy to do so. Happy
[01:52:36] to do so. I'm serious. Thanks for doing
[01:52:39] what you're doing. only trust you for
[01:52:40] right now. Now listen, if we're going to
[01:52:42] do that, if we can have Ian be
[01:52:43] president, I don't want to be vice
[01:52:44] president anymore if we got all these
[01:52:45] people involved. Um, we're going to put
[01:52:48] Tucker over the CIA. I'm just saying
[01:52:50] that's just where we're going to put
[01:52:51] Tucker. [laughter]
[01:52:53] Tucker gets CIA.
[01:52:56] Uh, I'll take the Secretary of State. I
[01:52:59] would be the best Secretary of State
[01:53:00] this country's ever had.
[01:53:03] Uh, and we could put Candace at
[01:53:08] uh I want Candace at the Department of
[01:53:09] Defense. That's that's the lineup I
[01:53:12] want. I want Candace as the Secretary of
[01:53:15] War. I want me as Secretary of State. I
[01:53:18] want Tucker Carlson as um as CIA. Oh,
[01:53:23] let's do ODNI. We'll give him the big
[01:53:25] job over there. He'll cover all the
[01:53:26] security agent. I'm just messing around.
[01:53:28] I just know that's the stick. Everybody
[01:53:30] says he's in the CIA. So, I thought
[01:53:31] that's funny. Um, and uh and and Ian can
[01:53:36] be president and we'll just leave vice
[01:53:37] president open. No, because then we
[01:53:39] don't know who's the speaker of the
[01:53:40] house. We're going to need a vice
[01:53:42] president. We'll put Colin in there.
[01:53:44] Coach Colin, you're Are you free for the
[01:53:45] next eight years? [laughter]
[01:53:48] You're going to be the vice president?
[01:53:50] Uh, is Ian single? No, he is not. Uh,
[01:53:53] Baron's bad cop energy and Ian's savage
[01:53:56] tech skills are priceless. God bless
[01:53:58] both of you. Yeah, that's a pretty salty
[01:54:00] combination to be honest with you. We
[01:54:01] had a great conversation today in
[01:54:03] prepping for that show. Um, and it was I
[01:54:07] thought that, you know, I think there's
[01:54:09] a lot I think there's a lot still on the
[01:54:10] table on Charlie Kirk that that is going
[01:54:12] to come out that we've not
[01:54:16] there's a reason we recap today. There's
[01:54:18] a reason Candace recapped yesterday.
[01:54:19] Things are about to I think kick into
[01:54:21] hyperdrive here. I'm so into Baron Ian
[01:54:23] combo sassy and classy Baron with the
[01:54:25] chill and smooth and epic broke collab.
[01:54:28] Uh, thank you. Yeah, I thought I was on
[01:54:30] my best behavior, by the way. I was on
[01:54:32] my best behavior.
[01:54:35] Everybody wanted to see me lose my mind
[01:54:37] in front of Ian and embarrass myself. I
[01:54:40] waited until he got off the air to do
[01:54:42] that. Not going to do that in front of
[01:54:44] the president, the next president of the
[01:54:46] United States. Uh, president,
[01:54:49] president Carol. Um, actually, you know
[01:54:52] what? There was a Carol, Charles Carol
[01:54:54] of Carolton. He signed the Declaration
[01:54:56] of Independence. If you remember, he's
[01:54:58] the only person who signed the
[01:54:59] Declaration of Independence that put his
[01:55:00] address on it. Charles Carroll of
[01:55:02] Carolton. Uh, wonder if he's related to
[01:55:05] Ian. If not, Ian could tell people he
[01:55:07] is. You know, I basically a descendant
[01:55:10] of a guy on the Declaration of
[01:55:11] Independence. Of course, I should be the
[01:55:12] next president. Uh, my dad was a
[01:55:15] ballistics expert. I grew up handloading
[01:55:16] rounds and bullets when I was 13. We
[01:55:19] shot World War I 306 with a range of
[01:55:21] loads. Even the light rounds we loaded
[01:55:23] to condition me to the caliber were
[01:55:24] devastating. Uh yeah, Tamara, a 30 six
[01:55:27] is a um
[01:55:30] is just devastating. Uh hey Edge, how
[01:55:33] you doing? Bro Lab checking in. Uh hit
[01:55:37] that like button people. Not a moder
[01:55:39] associated here. Uh but respect. It's
[01:55:42] respect and free. Yeah, hit the hit the
[01:55:44] like button. Um and again, subscribe to
[01:55:46] both channels. Subscribe to both
[01:55:48] channels. Ian has um Ian has done so
[01:55:52] much for this program.
[01:55:54] We're at 10,000 likes over here, so
[01:55:56] we'll allow that. Uh Ian's done so much
[01:55:58] for this particular program. I can't
[01:56:00] even begin to describe what he's done.
[01:56:02] Uh he's been fantastic, and I would not
[01:56:04] be here today without him. Uh certainly
[01:56:06] wouldn't be full-time without him. So,
[01:56:08] uh his help and guidance every step of
[01:56:10] the way has
[01:56:12] changed my life, honestly. Uh Erica
[01:56:14] Prok. Now, I don't know what Proo means.
[01:56:18] We're not call We're not going after
[01:56:20] people that way.
[01:56:25] Maybe the kids are Maybe that's like 67
[01:56:27] or I don't know what that means. Uh this
[01:56:29] is the state of the union for podcast. I
[01:56:31] emailed you today a banner I designed
[01:56:33] for the 2028 presidential run with you
[01:56:35] and Ian. Thank you both. As Moralda,
[01:56:37] thank you as Moralda. That's very kind
[01:56:38] of you. U but again I'm I'm going to be
[01:56:42] the secretary of state. So uh Baron, I
[01:56:44] went back and watched Erica Kirk's
[01:56:46] sitdown interview. She's the queen of
[01:56:48] not ever answering the question she was
[01:56:49] asked.
[01:56:51] I would love for you to show how you'd
[01:56:52] handle this if you were cross-examining.
[01:56:54] Again, we've talked about this. The
[01:56:55] cross-examination requires ground rules.
[01:56:58] And when you're just interviewing
[01:57:00] somebody, you don't have the ground
[01:57:01] rules. And so, it'd be very difficult
[01:57:03] for me to hold her to any kind of
[01:57:05] standard of cross-examination.
[01:57:08] I I don't I I don't I don't know the
[01:57:10] answer to that to be honest with you.
[01:57:12] I'm a former USMC ordinance expert and
[01:57:14] when I heard the frangible round story,
[01:57:16] I knew it was propaganda. This innocent
[01:57:19] doctor is the one who had this idea of a
[01:57:21] bullet that turns into powder. The doc
[01:57:24] would know the real CK wound. I'm not
[01:57:26] sure that's true. Uh Haley Lua Hav, I'm
[01:57:30] not sure that's true. I'm not sure it
[01:57:32] was the innocent doctor who had the
[01:57:34] idea. I think that the idea might have
[01:57:36] been put in the doctor's mouth
[01:57:39] against his will. Uh, the real Jesse on
[01:57:42] fire. Well, I watched the real Jesse on
[01:57:44] fire. Is that really you? Uh, just to
[01:57:45] add on to what Baron said, audibly the
[01:57:47] difference between the relic rangible
[01:57:49] rounds uh, I purchased and any of the
[01:57:51] modern rounds we tested was enormous.
[01:57:54] Hard to estimate how many FPS were lost,
[01:57:56] but a lot. Still cut through meat and
[01:57:58] bone easily. That's excellent. Excellent
[01:58:00] feedback, Jesse. Thank you for that. Uh,
[01:58:02] love your show. A regular watcher. Try
[01:58:05] to catch as many as I can. Probably 90%
[01:58:07] or more of them. Um, so thank you for
[01:58:10] checking in with us. But yeah, I um
[01:58:14] that's a that's a that's an interesting
[01:58:16] tidbit there because I thought
[01:58:18] originally
[01:58:20] if you guys got brand new frangible
[01:58:22] rounds, people would say, "Well, you
[01:58:24] know, he was using granddaddy's World
[01:58:26] War II frangible rounds." Well, what you
[01:58:28] guys did was use granddaddy's frangible
[01:58:29] rounds. And I mean, you just crushed
[01:58:31] whatever it put in front of it. Um,
[01:58:35] so thanks for checking in, Blair.
[01:58:38] Blue cheer never never wanted to say too
[01:58:40] much. Blue, you know what blue cheer is?
[01:58:43] Blue cheer is the guy at the dinner
[01:58:44] party who doesn't say anything and you
[01:58:46] have no idea if he approves of anything
[01:58:48] that was said or
[01:58:51] if if uh if he's just like dominating
[01:58:55] the meeting. Is this some secret serpus
[01:58:57] agent that's gotten in? Is he going to
[01:58:59] is it subtrauge a foot? Uh Baron,
[01:59:01] contact me about the Tennessee
[01:59:02] explosion. I have expertise that
[01:59:04] disproves the Tennessee on-site
[01:59:05] narrative. How am I going to contact
[01:59:07] you? That's the thing. I mean, you
[01:59:10] contact me. I can't contact you. I don't
[01:59:12] know who you are. Uh, but if you re
[01:59:15] email me at [email protected],
[01:59:18] [email protected],
[01:59:20] I will be happy to talk to you about the
[01:59:24] Tennessee narrative. Uh, do it quick
[01:59:25] because there's going to be some
[01:59:27] developments on the Tennessee explosion
[01:59:29] in the next, let's say, two weeks. So,
[01:59:31] email me soon and we will uh we'll get
[01:59:35] that squared away. Could you do that for
[01:59:37] me? Uh, trauma are in here. That wound
[01:59:40] was a tear. Anyone familiar with
[01:59:43] assessing patients will tell you that
[01:59:44] wasn't caused by a bullet. From the
[01:59:46] beginning, my brain knew an object
[01:59:47] tumbled into his neck at the jugular.
[01:59:50] Well, I think some people are saying
[01:59:52] maybe the bullet yawed and tumbled into
[01:59:55] his neck, but I don't believe that's
[01:59:57] true, particularly if it's a 306.
[02:00:01] Why am I so afraid to deep dive that he
[02:00:03] may be alive? Because I don't believe
[02:00:04] it.
[02:00:07] I don't believe it. I I have seen the
[02:00:10] images.
[02:00:12] Uh I have talked to people who saw him
[02:00:14] dead.
[02:00:16] I've talked to people who talked to
[02:00:17] people who saw his body being prepared
[02:00:19] for burial.
[02:00:21] I mean, it's just it's too many people.
[02:00:25] Way too many people. He's not He's dead.
[02:00:26] He's dead. Uh, I know people who were
[02:00:28] there and said it was like a firework
[02:00:29] that went off and something shot across
[02:00:31] the sky or fell or something like that
[02:00:33] was something that was reported. Um, can
[02:00:36] you get them in touch with me, Alyssa?
[02:00:38] Can you have them email real
[02:00:39] [email protected]
[02:00:41] and in the subject line put eyewitness
[02:00:44] and I will open that email and read it
[02:00:46] and get in touch with them. Will you do
[02:00:47] that for me? Thank you. Uh, Baronian
[02:00:50] watch clip from internet CK files. Slow
[02:00:52] it down to see something in his shirt
[02:00:54] first. Yes, the back of his shirt first.
[02:00:56] number eight MP4. Well, I can't play
[02:00:59] that on air. They basically banned all
[02:01:02] of them. Uh but let me pull up and see
[02:01:04] which one number eight is because I do
[02:01:06] have those right here.
[02:01:10] Okay, I see what you I see which one
[02:01:11] you're talking about. Um I think what
[02:01:14] you're seeing is an artifact of
[02:01:18] I think what you're seeing is an
[02:01:20] artifact of the
[02:01:23] whatever caused his shirt to move so
[02:01:25] rapidly. I don't think it's cavitation
[02:01:26] and I don't think it's something moving
[02:01:28] first in the back of his shirt. I think
[02:01:30] there's something that directed energy
[02:01:33] to the back of his shirt and you saw his
[02:01:35] shirt go back and you saw some maybe
[02:01:37] some uh you know camera pixels frame to
[02:01:42] frame aren't as true as we think they
[02:01:44] are. When things move super fast,
[02:01:46] cameras get a little confused. And I
[02:01:48] think that's what people are confusing
[02:01:49] for cavitation.
[02:01:52] Ian, you can't ever do away with a
[02:01:53] stash. Not only is it one heck of a
[02:01:54] stash, it's a trademark. I bet you have
[02:01:56] a 5:00 shadow twice a day. Uh we
[02:01:59] actually talked about that today. I kind
[02:02:01] of told him that. We talked about uh we
[02:02:04] were talking about it in the context of
[02:02:05] Cabbat Phillips shaving his beard and uh
[02:02:09] he was like, "Yeah, you know, if I ever
[02:02:10] shave my mustache," he's like, "Dude,
[02:02:11] you cannot shave your mustache. Like for
[02:02:13] better or worse, that baby is you're
[02:02:15] like John you're like uh uh the the John
[02:02:18] Bolton. Like John Bolton with the walrus
[02:02:21] stash. It was here to stay. Ian with the
[02:02:23] Ian stash. There's really nobody else
[02:02:24] that has one like it. That is here to
[02:02:28] stay. It's going nowhere. You better
[02:02:30] just get used to it. Uh Baza, I love the
[02:02:34] Jokes. The Joe jokes so much. There's no
[02:02:37] way. We will let the Charlie Kirk invest
[02:02:39] in Investigation. Joe, I will forever
[02:02:41] Joe Max enjoy the NZ bucks. They are
[02:02:44] worth doodoo all thanks to whoever that
[02:02:48] is. Hassenda ar name hardware store. I
[02:02:52] don't know what name hardware store
[02:02:53] means, but thank you for the NZ box.
[02:02:56] For a camera gun that the purpose would
[02:02:58] be stealth and not to appear as a gun.
[02:03:00] Eject a cartridge after the shot doesn't
[02:03:03] make the most sense to me. I'm going
[02:03:04] with ABS plastic, too. Love what you
[02:03:06] guys do. Thank you, JWB. I am pretty
[02:03:08] confident that's AWS plast, excuse me,
[02:03:11] ABS plastic that's falling from the tent
[02:03:13] that that Ian was Ian did a great job
[02:03:15] with that video, by the way, to keep it
[02:03:17] uh keep it clean. Make sure there was no
[02:03:19] Charlie Kirk in there. Yeah, just a
[02:03:20] piece of plastic falling from the top of
[02:03:23] the tent. I think he did a great job
[02:03:24] with that. And it looked to me like a
[02:03:26] ABS plastic with a little shine on it
[02:03:28] from the light coming through the top of
[02:03:29] the tent. So,
[02:03:31] um,
[02:03:36] um, this is a high IQ live chat, people.
[02:03:39] High IQ live chat. Keep that in mind.
[02:03:42] Thanks for all you do. It's a Oh, it's
[02:03:45] not a bug. It's a feature. I thought you
[02:03:46] were saying it's a bug. It's not a bug.
[02:03:49] Yeah, I think it's ABS plastic, but also
[02:03:50] a feature. ABS plastic can also be a
[02:03:53] feature.
[02:03:55] So, yeah, not a bug, but a feature. Uh,
[02:03:59] they used, let's see here. If you look
[02:04:02] at the opposite side of his neck right
[02:04:04] prior to the wound in the beginning, I
[02:04:05] thought it could been been an entrance.
[02:04:08] Now, it looks to be another fragment.
[02:04:10] Okay,
[02:04:12] I'll allow it.
[02:04:15] I'll allow that. You thought it could
[02:04:17] have been an entrance. Now it looks to
[02:04:18] be another fragment.
[02:04:22] Okay.
[02:04:25] In the beginning, I thought it could be
[02:04:26] an injured. Now it looks Okay, that's
[02:04:27] fair.
[02:04:31] I'm trying to think of
[02:04:37] Yeah, I'm trying to think of the video
[02:04:39] you're talking about, but I I think I
[02:04:41] agree with you. It's not an entrance
[02:04:43] over here. Uh, nice. Oh, I've already
[02:04:46] read that one.
[02:04:47] Oh, I thought I had a new grumbler in
[02:04:50] there. Uh, please, I sent you, please
[02:04:52] look, I sent you an email. 6:20 p.m.
[02:04:53] video evidence. I'll check it out. Dual
[02:04:56] trigger mechanisms in both involving
[02:04:58] both Harple and Cutler should be
[02:05:00] seriously examined in military
[02:05:01] detonation detonations that require
[02:05:03] absolute success. Backup triggers are
[02:05:05] critical.
[02:05:07] I I'm not saying that this is a
[02:05:08] Hollywood squib he was wearing, but in
[02:05:10] Hollywood squibs, a lot of those require
[02:05:12] two detonators. I don't know if you guys
[02:05:14] knew that. And the and the idea is the
[02:05:17] actor also will be holding a detonator
[02:05:20] so that we know nobody's going to
[02:05:23] activate it without his knowledge.
[02:05:26] So um that would explain dual detonators
[02:05:30] if they had some sort of similar trigger
[02:05:31] device.
[02:05:33] Google corateed artery rupture from
[02:05:35] electrocution and necklace. Original
[02:05:37] plan was electrocution from wired mic
[02:05:38] and exploding mic to be chest wound.
[02:05:40] Ruptured artery was unforeseen.
[02:05:44] I'm not
[02:05:46] I'm not too far off of that myself to be
[02:05:48] honest with you. Not too far off of
[02:05:51] that. This really shape charge is some
[02:05:52] kind of explosive. Then Erica's affinity
[02:05:54] for pyrotectus is even more sinister
[02:05:57] guys. The the lightning bolt on the tent
[02:05:59] is the worst part of this whole thing.
[02:06:00] Let's just be honest. It does not get
[02:06:02] worse than the lightning bolt on the
[02:06:03] tent. Period. End of story. I sent you
[02:06:06] an email about the many lives of Eric
[02:06:07] Kirk series by Coupe on YouTube. I must
[02:06:10] see in my opinion. If they keep
[02:06:12] shoveling bull butter, we're all going
[02:06:14] to need some serious throat coat. Love
[02:06:15] the show. Go Max. Yeah, it's a ton of
[02:06:17] Bull Butter coming out. I will. I I've
[02:06:20] seen something similar, like a
[02:06:21] compilation of All the Lies, but I'll
[02:06:23] I'll be happy to check it out. I might
[02:06:25] even play it. Been a long time since I
[02:06:27] counted down the hours waiting for a
[02:06:28] podcast. This is great. Thank you for
[02:06:30] caring caving Ian and thank you Baron
[02:06:33] for making it happen. You guys make the
[02:06:34] country a better place. Yeah, we've been
[02:06:36] talking about doing a live together for
[02:06:38] quite some time. It's just hard because
[02:06:39] he's always on the run. I've always got
[02:06:41] obligations going on. It's hard to find
[02:06:42] a night when we're both free at the same
[02:06:44] time. Like maybe I'm free at 7:00, but
[02:06:46] he's not free until 6:00. Uh, you know,
[02:06:48] or he's only free until 6:00, or he's
[02:06:50] good in the afternoon, I'm good in the
[02:06:51] evening. But tonight, it actually worked
[02:06:53] out. He did have to jump off a little
[02:06:54] early. He had somewhere to be. He's a
[02:06:55] very busy man. He had somewhere to be,
[02:06:58] but um it was great. Question regarding
[02:07:02] research in this case. Is it a red flag
[02:07:03] for an LLC certifi certificate of
[02:07:05] reinstatement to be signed by an
[02:07:06] attorney not affiliated with a firm
[02:07:08] listed as company contact or listed as a
[02:07:10] registered agent? No, not at all. Um,
[02:07:13] people can have any attorney sign those
[02:07:17] types of documents. That they don't have
[02:07:19] to be affiliated. That doesn't that
[02:07:21] doesn't raise any red flags to me. Uh,
[02:07:23] whammy paruk 4680 tip. Look into Erica's
[02:07:28] mom's company. A tech. We've looked into
[02:07:30] it. Having contract duty. We looked into
[02:07:32] that. Harding testing. Yeah. Yep.
[02:07:34] Familiar with all of that. Uh, thank you
[02:07:36] for the generous donation.
[02:07:38] Just so everyone knows, a World War I
[02:07:40] Mouser was a German gun. The 300 6 is an
[02:07:43] American round. The old Mousers were
[02:07:46] chambered in 8mm Mouser, not compatible
[02:07:48] with a scope. They're loaded from the
[02:07:50] top with a stripper clip.
[02:07:52] How is that now just coming out?
[02:07:55] I'm looking it up. So, Mouser, they're
[02:07:57] saying it's a 98 model. Mouser. Mouser
[02:08:00] 98 3006.
[02:08:04] Nope. The internet disagrees with you. A
[02:08:07] Mouser 98 in 3006 is a classic robust
[02:08:10] bolt-action rifle blending legendary
[02:08:12] German engineering with the popular
[02:08:13] American 3006 Springfield cartridge
[02:08:15] often found as original sporters.
[02:08:18] Um
[02:08:21] uh let's see here. in World War I.
[02:08:25] Uh Mouser 98 was Germany's standard
[02:08:27] infantry rifle in World War I, but it
[02:08:29] was chambered in 7.92 x 57 8mm Mouser,
[02:08:33] not 3006 Springfield. 306 was an
[02:08:36] American cartridge. Sounds a lot like
[02:08:38] you, Wolfy. Though commercial Mouser 98
[02:08:41] sports sporters were later made in 306
[02:08:44] for foreign markets. Oh, so you're
[02:08:45] suggesting it was not, and Gemini agrees
[02:08:47] with you, it was not potentially a World
[02:08:50] War I gun. Well, that's worth exploring
[02:08:52] more. Uh, dynamic duo right here. Yeah,
[02:08:55] we were doing our best, guys. Keep
[02:08:56] working. We're trying. Charlie deserve
[02:08:58] justice. Agreed. Our little village is
[02:09:00] the best. We do have
[02:09:03] We do have the best little village. I
[02:09:06] believe
[02:09:07] Eve, those were not the same contract
[02:09:09] number era. Ian says a D. Baron's last
[02:09:11] three digits were different. Yeah, we
[02:09:13] were looking at two different contracts.
[02:09:14] He was looking at one from September of
[02:09:16] 20 uh September 23rd of 2025. I was
[02:09:20] looking at one from uh May 1st of 2025.
[02:09:24] Those are two different contracts. I
[02:09:26] foyed information for accurate energies.
[02:09:28] I'll send you what I get. I'll send you
[02:09:30] what I requested. Might not be relevant,
[02:09:32] but it's technically not a contract to
[02:09:33] purchase order. I'm not familiar with
[02:09:34] the difference. So, a I did I email you
[02:09:37] back during the show? Are you the same
[02:09:38] person I emailed? I saw an email during
[02:09:40] the show. Uh I responded to it. And the
[02:09:43] difference is like a contract might be
[02:09:45] for say $5 million and it might say in
[02:09:49] the contract that if you want to spend
[02:09:51] money against this contract you have to
[02:09:53] fill out individual purchase orders and
[02:09:54] then you would submit those purchase
[02:09:56] orders for approval and then they would
[02:09:57] allocate money based on that. So that's
[02:09:59] the difference. Um
[02:10:02] check out my YouTube pick Carol Coleman.
[02:10:04] Stop the slop 28. Have a bunch of shirts
[02:10:06] viewers of these would love. You guys
[02:10:08] rock. Best show on YouTube in NN in
[02:10:11] Carol Coleman. Stop the clock. I like
[02:10:13] that. I don't know why Ian's so much
[02:10:15] bigger than I. He is bigger than I am,
[02:10:16] though. He's a massive dude. Uh, best
[02:10:18] show on YouTube. In insurance.com. Uh,
[02:10:21] yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, very
[02:10:23] generous of you to come up with that and
[02:10:25] offer that for the folks. Offer that for
[02:10:30] the folks. They paved the area where
[02:10:32] Terrell Farnsworth stood. [laughter] I
[02:10:34] don't know if you meant that to be
[02:10:35] funny, but it was hilarious.
[02:10:37] I don't even know if you know how funny
[02:10:39] that is. That's great. Uh, you two,
[02:10:42] Clint and Candace, are spot on. Teo
[02:10:43] Graatia, thank you. Uh, thank you, Alex.
[02:10:47] Got mittens.
[02:10:49] It's probably pronounced some wildly
[02:10:51] crazy crazily different way than that,
[02:10:53] but that's how I'm pronouncing it
[02:10:54] tonight. If there wasn't a rifle, could
[02:10:56] you trigger the mic by a faximile
[02:10:58] gunshot through the PA? Any loud noise
[02:11:01] like that would be an abnormal input to
[02:11:03] that road. I'm not familiar with that
[02:11:05] mic, but I heard they're pretty
[02:11:06] sensitive. um they are sensitive.
[02:11:10] They have processing capabilities on it.
[02:11:12] So I don't I don't I don't know if sound
[02:11:15] would be what would would trigger it. I
[02:11:17] know there are things that can that can
[02:11:19] detonate by sound. And so that's um
[02:11:22] that's not unheard of. It's not unusual.
[02:11:25] But um
[02:11:27] whether or not the um electrocution is
[02:11:31] correct first or the explosion under the
[02:11:33] shirt is correct first. If either or
[02:11:36] both of those things is true, they could
[02:11:37] be triggered by sound, but probably more
[02:11:40] likely triggered by some sort of
[02:11:42] electrical impulse. If I had to guess,
[02:11:45] if I had to guess. Uh, thought you'd
[02:11:47] like to know that the gay bar closest to
[02:11:48] the Pentagon is 270% busier than it
[02:11:50] normally is tonight. Well, that means
[02:11:51] the Pentagon is empty. [laughter]
[02:11:55] That means there's no that must be a TP
[02:11:57] USA event in town. Uh, pizza actual
[02:11:59] pizza sales also have a big spike. Now,
[02:12:01] sometimes that means
[02:12:03] certain things, but the the the the gay
[02:12:06] bar inverse coralate is when the gay
[02:12:09] bars around the Pentagon are empty,
[02:12:10] emptier than usual,
[02:12:13] then we get a strike of some sort
[02:12:14] somewhere. And the inverse coralate, the
[02:12:17] inverse of that is if the pizza sales
[02:12:19] are busier, meaning the to- go orders of
[02:12:22] pizza around the Pentagon are busier, we
[02:12:23] also get a strike. So, low gay bars,
[02:12:26] high pizza, strike. High gay bars, low
[02:12:30] pizza, no strike because they're not
[02:12:32] eating pizza in the Pentagon. They're
[02:12:33] out.
[02:12:35] Well, I love seeing truth tellers come
[02:12:38] together for a greater cause. Candace
[02:12:39] will always be number one. However,
[02:12:41] maybe there is hope from humanity after
[02:12:43] all. Maybe may God continue to bless and
[02:12:45] lead you both. You know, it's not many
[02:12:47] people that would be proud to read a
[02:12:50] comment saying you're number two.
[02:12:52] [laughter]
[02:12:54] There there's someone truly better than
[02:12:55] you and you'll never be better than that
[02:12:56] person. Not a lot of people would put up
[02:12:58] with that, but I I am humble enough to
[02:13:01] appreciate your kind words. Um,
[02:13:06] yeah, this is that that's the contract
[02:13:08] we were looking at. Purchase from
[02:13:09] Tennessee plant made by crane. Yes.
[02:13:11] Prefix. Yes. Uh, not only does the
[02:13:13] prefix order, it actually says it in the
[02:13:15] contract. Have you opened it? Uh, naval
[02:13:17] surface warfare crane. We've talked
[02:13:18] about that. Yeah. Dated 5125. Yeah. So,
[02:13:22] this is You may be coming from me and
[02:13:24] I'm not sure who's coming from where.
[02:13:26] We've talked about that a lot on this
[02:13:28] program. I don't know if Ian's gone into
[02:13:29] the uh that purchase order, but we've
[02:13:31] gone into that pretty pretty in-depth.
[02:13:33] And so you you are feeding back to us a
[02:13:35] lot of what we have fed out uh into the
[02:13:38] community. But thank you for your uh now
[02:13:41] you you watch our program living for his
[02:13:43] glory daily. I think I've seen your
[02:13:45] comments. Uh Baron and Ian, why are you
[02:13:48] two not discussing the clear evidence of
[02:13:50] serious financial fraud involving TPSA
[02:13:52] Hoffman Ber Farnsworth names and more
[02:13:54] that Zach Deg Gregorio has uncovered?
[02:13:58] Because I've told you just like our good
[02:14:00] friend Jason Goodman and the drones, I
[02:14:02] only have so much time on a daily basis.
[02:14:07] We cover a lot of material on this
[02:14:09] program. I cannot possibly cover
[02:14:11] everything that's been unfolded
[02:14:15] or or uncovered in the entire world. I
[02:14:17] just can't. Nor will I try. The show
[02:14:21] will get muddy. I bring two or three
[02:14:23] topics a night and we and we look at
[02:14:25] those for anywhere from 50 minutes to 90
[02:14:28] minutes and then we the next night we'll
[02:14:30] talk about a few more topics and the
[02:14:32] next night a few more topics. Sometimes
[02:14:33] I got to circle back and sometimes I got
[02:14:35] to do five shows on the same topics.
[02:14:38] And and there are other people doing
[02:14:40] this like you mentioned Zack De Gregaria
[02:14:43] Gregorio
[02:14:45] um Wolves in Finance uh Danks DKS I
[02:14:50] don't know if you saw his video on
[02:14:51] YouTube he did a great deep dive into
[02:14:54] the um into life insurance policy. So
[02:14:56] there are other people doing these
[02:14:57] shows. It's not like I'm not like it's
[02:14:59] not being covered.
[02:15:01] Uh looks like very shady business
[02:15:04] practices at UVU based on that lengthy
[02:15:06] list of repairs maintenance you were
[02:15:07] showing. Very cool. Well, it could be.
[02:15:09] You know what, Max Frost, dig into it
[02:15:11] and find some. I'd be happy happy to
[02:15:15] cover it. If you can uncover some of
[02:15:16] that and send it my way. Baron and Ian,
[02:15:18] love the two of you. There's a video
[02:15:19] that had Butch in showing people looking
[02:15:22] all over the grass afterwards, looking
[02:15:23] all over and picking things up in the
[02:15:25] grassy areas, I think, including Terrell
[02:15:26] Farnsworth.
[02:15:28] Was that the life is driving video?
[02:15:33] Because if so, I have to give it a
[02:15:34] second look. I know Adam loves when this
[02:15:37] when this show covers the life is
[02:15:38] driving video.
[02:15:41] He loved that. That was great. That was
[02:15:43] great. Uh Baron and Ian, have you heard
[02:15:46] of the flock cameras? Yes, I'm familiar
[02:15:48] with flock cameras. Motion activated
[02:15:49] solar power cameras capture image of
[02:15:51] vehicle license plate. Uh Ben Jordan has
[02:15:54] a has a what? I say what? You have me on
[02:15:57] the EDGE OF MY SEAT. WHAT DOES BEN
[02:15:59] JORDAN HAVE? Tell me. Tell me. Why are
[02:16:02] you holding this back for me? Are you
[02:16:03] one of them? Are you working for the
[02:16:05] other side? Are you a spy?
[02:16:08] I need to know.
[02:16:10] [laughter] Looks like you hit uh enter
[02:16:12] too soon. But yeah, I'm familiar with
[02:16:14] flot cameras. Sure.
[02:16:17] Uh
[02:16:19] almost a 50% like to view rate. Well,
[02:16:21] those are rookie numbers. Let's get them
[02:16:23] get the numbers up. You guys go click
[02:16:25] that like button.
[02:16:27] Uh oh my gosh. Serious bro crush times
[02:16:29] two. Well, thank you, Ivan. wife made me
[02:16:31] shave my Ian starter stash. [laughter]
[02:16:34] You had a Ian starter stash. I would
[02:16:36] love to see that. Uh dip early from
[02:16:39] triggers live three-way. Danks AI FD
[02:16:42] fire. Yes. Yes. Uh he'd make a great
[02:16:45] beta tester. Web web is dope. I don't
[02:16:47] know if you guys have seen web
[02:16:49] crowdsource investigation is legit. Go
[02:16:51] Max. You cra you crammed a lot in a $20
[02:16:53] comment.
[02:16:55] I mean that's a whole lot like seven
[02:16:57] different topics. Uh I like Trigger. I
[02:17:00] like Danks. Um, I enjoyed his his show.
[02:17:03] I I not I was not familiar with him
[02:17:04] until a couple days ago. Uh, but I like
[02:17:07] his show quite a bit. Uh, not sure if
[02:17:09] this even relates, but did you see that
[02:17:11] AES was awarded a contract with the
[02:17:12] Department of War of 120 million in
[02:17:15] September 2025? Yeah, that's what we
[02:17:16] were covering. Was it 120? I thought it
[02:17:18] was like seven, but yeah, that we were
[02:17:21] covering a September contract. Uh,
[02:17:23] change your show to Grin and Baronit.
[02:17:25] Ooh.
[02:17:28] Ooh. Don't dislike that at all. NSA has
[02:17:32] a massive facility in Utah and Oracle
[02:17:34] has offices there for their cloud. Makes
[02:17:36] sense. It would also be a hub for the
[02:17:38] CI,
[02:17:40] first letter of the alphabet. Uh there's
[02:17:42] that self-censoring they were talking
[02:17:44] about earlier. This is more exciting
[02:17:45] than Spider-Man and Wolverine team up.
[02:17:46] Time to take America back, boys. Yes.
[02:17:48] You know, can I confess something,
[02:17:51] Henny?
[02:17:52] You know the last superhero movie I saw?
[02:17:57] It was the 1990
[02:17:59] Batman with Michael Keaton. I saw that
[02:18:01] in the theaters.
[02:18:03] The 1990 movie Batman with Michael
[02:18:07] Keaton. And I've seen it like 10 times.
[02:18:11] That was the last superhero movie. I I
[02:18:12] missed all the Marvel universe. I missed
[02:18:14] all the DC movies. And I am a Batman
[02:18:17] fan. I like Batman. I used to watch
[02:18:18] Batman the Allen Adam West Batman when I
[02:18:20] was a kid. I mean, it was on replay. It
[02:18:23] was like on Nick at night or something.
[02:18:25] Yeah, I used to watch that. Uh, maybe
[02:18:27] Tyler Robinson is a perfect psy
[02:18:29] intelligence school, but who also was
[02:18:31] knowledgeable about electrical work, aka
[02:18:34] capable of executing an electrocution,
[02:18:36] perhaps. Maybe he is guilty of murder,
[02:18:37] but not in the way we're being told.
[02:18:41] Interesting.
[02:18:42] Interesting. I don't know how he would
[02:18:44] have access to the sound equipment and
[02:18:46] all that kind of stuff, but I'm not
[02:18:48] ruling it out. I mean, I'm willing to
[02:18:50] hear you out.
[02:18:52] Willing to hear you out.
[02:18:54] You spoke with my husband today. Oh,
[02:18:56] that's Aaron Tea Party. Excited for you
[02:18:58] guys to collab. Hi, Baron. I sent you
[02:19:00] all the Emanuel Beer stuff last month. I
[02:19:02] remember that. That was good stuff. You
[02:19:03] guys are doing great work. Glad to be
[02:19:05] part of this high IQ outfit. Yes, Ian is
[02:19:07] part of the high IQ outfit. He
[02:19:09] absolutely is. And no question in my
[02:19:12] mind, it is a high IQ outfit when Ian
[02:19:14] shows up. Uh, hey Baron, looks like an
[02:19:18] AES employee will be my first interview.
[02:19:20] Do you want to help with my list of
[02:19:22] questions? I think something is hiding
[02:19:24] there. Um, that's amazing, Adam Thomas.
[02:19:28] How did you pull that off?
[02:19:31] Um, I could I could do that.
[02:19:34] I could do that.
[02:19:38] Uh, email me [email protected].
[02:19:40] I don't I I would have a few questions.
[02:19:43] Are you going to do Let me ask you this.
[02:19:44] Are you doing a pre-in? Email me
[02:19:46] [email protected]. What I'd like to know
[02:19:48] is, are you doing a pre-in? I would like
[02:19:49] to sit in on that and then I will watch
[02:19:52] you do the interview, but I would love
[02:19:54] to sit in on the pre-in which I think if
[02:19:56] you're not doing a pre-in you should
[02:19:58] every every interview on like that of an
[02:20:00] AES employee. If you're not talking to
[02:20:02] them before you go on air, you're
[02:20:04] missing a real opportunity to to really
[02:20:06] dig deep and figure out what's worth
[02:20:08] following in the show and what's what's
[02:20:10] worth discarding. Uh Ian, no Twitch,
[02:20:13] bro. Bro Stacy 500.
[02:20:17] Uh Ian will be enthralled
[02:20:20] with your generous contribution to his
[02:20:23] efforts. So uh thank you. Thank you.
[02:20:25] Thank you. And um
[02:20:30] that's great. Thank you so much.
[02:20:34] Uh did I already read this one? Oh yes,
[02:20:36] yes, yes, yes, yes. Hold on. Ah, please.
[02:20:40] There we go. Oh, where am I? How did I
[02:20:42] end up up there?
[02:20:44] Uh
[02:20:46] Ian is at Lance is at Clay with Charlie.
[02:20:50] What's Klay? C L A I S. Should I know
[02:20:53] that by now? A city in France. In
[02:20:55] France. What makes us think uh uh Ian is
[02:20:59] in I mean uh why do I keep saying Ian?
[02:21:01] What makes us think Charlie is in
[02:21:06] next to the do?
[02:21:11] I don't understand French.
[02:21:14] Like if we're being totally honest, I
[02:21:16] don't understand French.
[02:21:19] They just mutter.
[02:21:21] I was watching um what's his name? Uh
[02:21:25] Bridget Mcronone. I was watching Breijit
[02:21:28] Mcronone give an interview about the 10
[02:21:30] people she had arrested for talking bad
[02:21:32] about her on on uh on X.
[02:21:35] And the whole interview was like she
[02:21:37] never moved her mouth. It was like
[02:21:45] And don't sue me because I have no idea
[02:21:47] what I just said.
[02:21:50] Don't sue me, bro.
[02:21:53] Uh, here we go. Uh, best I can tell,
[02:21:55] Bray started the mic chatter on 917 and
[02:21:57] had it pretty solid soon after. So, two
[02:21:59] week for the plant. Oops. Yeah, that's
[02:22:00] what I'm saying. It was pretty quick. It
[02:22:03] was pretty quick. Baron, longtime fan,
[02:22:05] first time super. Well, thank you.
[02:22:06] Welcome to the program. Uh, would the
[02:22:08] Bond Dogs have picked up any scent from
[02:22:10] this explosive? Not an expert here. Me
[02:22:11] and my mom are massive fans. I know
[02:22:13] she's watching. Hi, Mom. Crisis King.
[02:22:16] Hi, Mom. Not my mom, of although my mom
[02:22:20] might be watching. Hi, Mom. Um,
[02:22:24] I think bomb dogs I'm getting mixed
[02:22:26] reports on whether a bomb dog four
[02:22:28] months later would still pick up a
[02:22:29] scent.
[02:22:31] Some people are telling me, "Oh, yeah,
[02:22:32] they can smell anything." Some people
[02:22:33] are like, "Bro, it's been 4 months and
[02:22:35] they paved over the scene." like calm
[02:22:37] down. Uh Baron, did you watch Steu
[02:22:39] Peter's interview with Mitch Snow? I did
[02:22:41] not. Curious your thoughts. Um
[02:22:44] I'll probably check it out. Also, I
[02:22:46] think Lance changed his name to Joe.
[02:22:48] [laughter]
[02:22:49] You're rocking the lime green hoodie.
[02:22:52] Hallelujah. Yes. Yes. Loving the lime
[02:22:54] green hoodie. Heather Ray, um Oh, I've
[02:22:57] got a new color on the way.
[02:22:59] It was supposed to be here today and it
[02:23:02] did not make. So, maybe tomorrow. Uh
[02:23:04] although I don't think I'll be on the
[02:23:05] air tomorrow. I think it'll be Thursday
[02:23:06] before you hear from me again. Uh, don't
[02:23:08] forget subscribe to both channels. Ian's
[02:23:10] and mine. Don't forget to like the video
[02:23:12] and don't I don't know if his channel's
[02:23:13] still up. It may still be up. He may
[02:23:15] maybe me
[02:23:17] I got free reign of Ian's channel.
[02:23:20] Oh, bro. He has no idea what he did. He
[02:23:24] left me in charge of his channel. I'm
[02:23:26] not going off tonight. I'm not shutting
[02:23:28] down. I'm going to talk for 40 hours.
[02:23:31] I'm filibustering. I'm going to get out
[02:23:33] the phone book and be like, "Let me read
[02:23:35] you a few pages of the constituents in
[02:23:37] my district." [laughter]
[02:23:40] I love going to the uh the rich senator
[02:23:44] voice. Uh no, I did not watch it, but I
[02:23:47] might. But I might. Tyler and Lance were
[02:23:48] members of the armed quirs. Uh went to a
[02:23:52] buzzards and bees meet up where younger
[02:23:54] members met with older military to
[02:23:56] frolic. Have you seen this video? Armed
[02:23:58] quirs. We're at UVU on 910. I've not
[02:24:01] seen that video. Feel free to send it to
[02:24:02] me. Um,
[02:24:06] Thernovich. Oh, you're talking about his
[02:24:08] his uh the way he says his name.
[02:24:12] Uh, love you guys. Changing the world.
[02:24:13] Well, thank you. Trying, Sherry. Trying.
[02:24:16] I'm befuddled by Mitch. We mods need
[02:24:18] clarification on Mitch in the chat. Real
[02:24:20] Mitch now joined again tonight, then
[02:24:21] left. Three account accounts have
[02:24:23] claimed to be him. Also, did you watch
[02:24:24] Stup Peter's episode with Mitch from
[02:24:27] yesterday? Uh, yeah. No, I didn't. I
[02:24:30] just had that question a second ago. Um,
[02:24:32] I don't know which one he is.
[02:24:35] I know one of them at one point was him
[02:24:37] because he emailed me and told me he was
[02:24:38] in the chat and then I talked to him and
[02:24:41] we and I unless somebody does a really
[02:24:43] mean Mitch Snow impersonation, I know I
[02:24:45] talked to him and he actually h texted
[02:24:48] me tonight while I was on the show. Um,
[02:24:52] oh,
[02:24:55] oh,
[02:24:59] okay.
[02:25:01] Yeah, he texted me tonight while I was
[02:25:03] on the show. Uh, new weekly podcast,
[02:25:05] please. Coleman and Carol, I doubt
[02:25:07] that's going to happen weekly.
[02:25:09] That would be a big commitment. And, uh,
[02:25:11] it's hard enough to commit your own show
[02:25:14] on a weekly basis. As a mom of eight, I
[02:25:15] prayed for Trump and rallied for change.
[02:25:17] This year has been deeply upsetting and
[02:25:19] has weighed truly on my heart hope for
[02:25:21] real change in the future. It's been a
[02:25:23] tough It's been a tough year for a lot
[02:25:24] of us. Uh frankly, been a tough year.
[02:25:27] Ian, you're getting the uh you're
[02:25:30] getting the salute. Uh that was awesome.
[02:25:32] Thank you both for an amazing show.
[02:25:33] Well, you're you're welcome. You're
[02:25:35] welcome. So many similarities between
[02:25:37] Tyler and Coberger. Top of class, took
[02:25:39] classes in intelligence, shy, awkward,
[02:25:41] both charged with murder, no concrete
[02:25:42] evidence, and many unanswered questions.
[02:25:47] I am really befuddled by that Idaho
[02:25:49] case. You talking about Cober, the Idaho
[02:25:51] case. Is that right? Um
[02:25:57] I I'm really befuddled by that. I I have
[02:26:00] to believe it was not random. I have to
[02:26:05] believe it was more than like jealousy
[02:26:07] or, you know, some kind of
[02:26:11] mental snap.
[02:26:13] But I I can't put my finger on what it
[02:26:15] is. I don't want to start speculating
[02:26:17] out loud. I have something in my head
[02:26:19] and involves one of family of one of
[02:26:21] them and I I don't want to just
[02:26:23] speculate out loud just just to do it.
[02:26:25] That was fun. Thought you guys were
[02:26:27] going to discuss Vegas. Uh did I tell
[02:26:29] you we were going to discuss Vegas? I
[02:26:30] don't recall that. Um but yeah, he had a
[02:26:34] great episode with Vegas on Tucker
[02:26:37] and um with the Vegas topic on Tucker's
[02:26:41] podcast. But, uh, I ought to have him on
[02:26:43] and talk about Vegas because I've done a
[02:26:45] lot of Vegas, uh, research in my life
[02:26:49] and did a lot of shows on Vegas back in
[02:26:50] the day and that would be a fun one to
[02:26:52] go down. Maybe I did hint about it now
[02:26:53] that I'm saying that out loud. It sounds
[02:26:54] like I just said it yesterday, but I
[02:26:56] didn't mean it [laughter]
[02:26:59] because it didn't happen. Uh, love the
[02:27:01] Eden Baron live. Hope y'all do more. I
[02:27:03] agree with y'all's theory that Tyler
[02:27:04] Robinson may be a willing psy duped
[02:27:07] participant in the plot. Saw George W
[02:27:08] clip that Tyler Robinson and Rosy for
[02:27:10] eight years leading to CIA recruitment.
[02:27:11] Is this true? I don't know.
[02:27:14] I don't know. I, you know, I follow the
[02:27:16] people I follow. I have certain people I
[02:27:20] follow. Jesse chimed in tonight. I watch
[02:27:21] him. Uh, I watch Ian, obviously.
[02:27:25] Candace, obviously. Um, I like Colin.
[02:27:27] Colin gives me good recaps. Um, and I
[02:27:31] watch certain videos of other There's
[02:27:33] more people I watch. I don't know why
[02:27:35] I'm blanking on some of the things, but
[02:27:36] there's eight or 10 people I watch. I
[02:27:37] just don't have time for more. Just
[02:27:39] don't have time. I watch Tucker. I just
[02:27:41] don't have time to add more people
[02:27:44] um into the mix. After hearing Ian read
[02:27:46] the background of the woman who
[02:27:47] developed the CAI program at USU, it
[02:27:49] kind of gives a new meaning to we huge
[02:27:50] in the Balkans. Great show. We're
[02:27:53] massive in the Balkans. I mean so big in
[02:27:56] the Balkans.
[02:27:58] People don't even know how big we are.
[02:28:00] Unbelievable. Sent you an email, but
[02:28:02] check out UVU footage by Life is Driving
[02:28:04] on
[02:28:06] uh Tyler Robson or lookike and be Yeah,
[02:28:08] it's a lookalike.
[02:28:10] Can he set up the No, I I would go back
[02:28:13] and look at that, but I have a feeling
[02:28:15] you're talking about the same people
[02:28:16] I've already looked at. I don't recall
[02:28:18] the time stamps off the top of my head.
[02:28:20] Um,
[02:28:22] the answer is no. I don't think that's
[02:28:24] Tyler.
[02:28:26] What does a MSAD chief do after he
[02:28:28] retires? He goes on to be a director at
[02:28:30] an energy company that is moving to the
[02:28:32] US, of course. Uh, Yosi Cohen, Doral
[02:28:35] Renewables, about to start construction
[02:28:36] of a solar farm in West Texas. Why? Hey,
[02:28:39] help me understand.
[02:28:42] Well, I mean,
[02:28:44] I'll give you the innocent version.
[02:28:47] You got to do something, you know, and
[02:28:49] he found somebody that's willing to hire
[02:28:50] him and so he took the job. I mean,
[02:28:51] that's like the innocent version. Now,
[02:28:54] we can all speculate why a member of u
[02:28:57] the intelligence community of a foreign
[02:28:59] country should have access to critical
[02:29:01] electoral infrastructure in the United
[02:29:03] States. I don't think they should. Would
[02:29:04] we let the intelligence chief of France
[02:29:08] have access to critical infrastructure
[02:29:09] or Germany or China or Iran or India or
[02:29:13] Brazil? I mean, where do we draw the
[02:29:15] line? How about we just say nobody with
[02:29:17] foreign ties to foreign intelligence
[02:29:19] agencies may have access to American
[02:29:22] critical electrical infrastructure.
[02:29:23] That's fine with me. No water, no
[02:29:25] electricity, no gas, no pro,
[02:29:29] uh no coal, no nuclear.
[02:29:32] Where what else? Uh what are some of
[02:29:34] them other industry? No cable
[02:29:36] television, internet access, no critical
[02:29:39] utility infrastructure. That's that's
[02:29:43] that's when I'm secretary of state.
[02:29:44] Ian's going to be president. Candace is
[02:29:46] secretary of war. So she'll enforce it.
[02:29:50] Colin, vice president, feet up on the
[02:29:52] couch. Uh t-shirt, hoodie, slogan. Baron
[02:29:55] McGrade. A high IQ outfit. That's
[02:29:57] correct. It is a high IQ outfit. No
[02:30:02] doubt it. Uh, canate 11:04. Baron, the
[02:30:06] area you showed Charlie might have burns
[02:30:08] on his torso is right where
[02:30:10] defibrillator pads would be placed. Was
[02:30:12] Charlie defibrillated to the hospital?
[02:30:14] This was well before he made it to the
[02:30:16] hospital. This was exactly 26 seconds
[02:30:19] after the big bang and that I saw that
[02:30:22] image or the image was taken 26 seconds
[02:30:24] after the big bang. I have stitched
[02:30:25] together enough footage to be able to
[02:30:27] then I can actually see the photographer
[02:30:28] taking the photo.
[02:30:31] So, no, he this is not a um this is not
[02:30:35] a defibrillator pad.
[02:30:37] Not at all a defibrillator pad. Uh
[02:30:39] Stevie, I think he I think the [ __ ]
[02:30:41] horse comment just pushed Ben over the
[02:30:43] edge. Ben is the ex-boyfriend that can't
[02:30:44] move on and see succeed.
[02:30:48] Uh
[02:30:50] maybe there's always danger in the blind
[02:30:52] belief that is why we see what we see
[02:30:55] with so many NTP. Woo, that kind of
[02:30:57] rhymed. That's why we see what we see
[02:30:58] with so many NTP. A note on the Joe
[02:31:01] thing. It's better to be
[02:31:03] It's better to be better than to be as
[02:31:06] bad. Just food for thought. Man, you got
[02:31:08] away with words, sir or ma'am.
[02:31:12] Many of us would rather you not read all
[02:31:13] the super chats. You can end the show
[02:31:14] and be with your wife and children. Your
[02:31:16] family is part of what we love about you
[02:31:17] and the ultimate priority. Uh but but I
[02:31:20] I understand that.
[02:31:23] I genuinely like the super chats for a
[02:31:25] couple reasons. One is it gives me the
[02:31:27] opportunity to interact with people.
[02:31:28] Two, I get an opportunity probably three
[02:31:31] to five times per show. Something in the
[02:31:34] super chats will cause me to stop and
[02:31:35] give explanatory
[02:31:38] context either to something I said
[02:31:39] earlier, maybe something I said to
[02:31:40] another show or something else going on
[02:31:42] outside the news that I've not yet
[02:31:43] covered or some kind of ground rules or
[02:31:47] why the show runs the way it runs. So, I
[02:31:50] understand what you're saying.
[02:31:53] Um, and maybe as time goes by, like if I
[02:31:56] had $4,000 super chats, I could still
[02:31:58] only read so many. Um, and obviously if
[02:32:01] someone donates $100 or $500, I'm going
[02:32:04] to pull it up and we're going to talk
[02:32:05] about it. Um, now the the $1, $2, $5, I
[02:32:10] get to as many as I can, as many as time
[02:32:12] will allow. Um, but if I have again 400
[02:32:17] of them or 300 of them, I might get to
[02:32:19] 20 or 30 or 40 because um, time just
[02:32:23] doesn't allow me to get to every single
[02:32:25] one. But yeah, I'm I'm glad you actually
[02:32:26] said that because
[02:32:29] to me, interacting with the super chats
[02:32:31] is the most enjoyable part of this
[02:32:33] program. I get to talk to you. Like even
[02:32:35] if you all agreed, hey, we'll send you
[02:32:37] the same amount. Just don't read them.
[02:32:38] Go spend.
[02:32:40] My family understands that this is the
[02:32:42] part of the show that drives me to want
[02:32:45] to do this. I enjoy talking to people. I
[02:32:48] like hearing. I like feedback. Now,
[02:32:50] maybe if I've been doing this show with
[02:32:52] the same audience for 10 years, I don't
[02:32:54] want your feedback. I feel like I've got
[02:32:55] it pretty much under control. But right
[02:32:56] now, most of you are watching me for the
[02:32:59] last few months. That's it.
[02:33:03] Thank you for the feedback, though. I
[02:33:04] will run it by Mrs. Coleman. Uh, did you
[02:33:06] see the hand devices being released on
[02:33:08] scene?
[02:33:10] I don't know what that means. I might
[02:33:12] have
[02:33:14] uh went shopping with me. Haha. Great
[02:33:17] episode. Oh, I went shopping. We went
[02:33:19] shopping with you. Bel Jar water
[02:33:20] drinker. Uh cheers to that, man.
[02:33:24] Two of my favorites together. Very well
[02:33:26] done. My grandma graduated from Notre
[02:33:28] Dame. Grandpa taught chemistry at
[02:33:29] Purdue. I'm sorry to hear that. Uncle
[02:33:31] lawyer in Leaport. Love Hooser Land from
[02:33:33] Arizona. Um, yeah, as an as an as a
[02:33:36] lifelong Indianaer. [snorts]
[02:33:39] Um,
[02:33:41] I give Purdue people a hard time. So,
[02:33:43] I'm I'm sorry about your uh grandpa, but
[02:33:45] everybody else dynamite.
[02:33:48] Dynamite. Uh, it's very odd. We hear
[02:33:50] nothing from Charlie's parents about all
[02:33:51] this. They are totally MIA. How do they
[02:33:52] feel about Erica? I have noticed the
[02:33:56] same.
[02:33:57] I've also wondered Arizona has weird
[02:34:00] rules of succession. I don't know if
[02:34:03] you've noticed this Arizona
[02:34:06] um estate succession. I think they have
[02:34:10] very very
[02:34:12] weird rules.
[02:34:15] Um
[02:34:17] I have to go back and look at it. I've
[02:34:19] looked at it before and I I wonder if
[02:34:21] there might be some hard feelings
[02:34:24] between Erica and and his parents about
[02:34:26] that. Uh, authenticity and truth unites
[02:34:29] in a pro. I'm a progressive liberal and
[02:34:31] believer. Left and right narrative is
[02:34:33] eroding and we're seeing the scop for
[02:34:34] what it is. Please, please get rid of
[02:34:36] the center top photo. If I is who I
[02:34:38] think it is, replaced with the King of
[02:34:39] Kings, JC. Now, um, I don't have an 8
[02:34:42] and 1 half1 glossy photograph of
[02:34:46] um, Jesus. And, and if you'll notice,
[02:34:49] that's the motif I have back here is 8
[02:34:51] and 1 half by 11 glossies. If Jesus
[02:34:53] comes back and sits for a photograph or
[02:34:56] is taking a candid and it and I can get
[02:34:59] an 11 eight and a half by 11 off of
[02:35:01] Amazon to put into one of these frames,
[02:35:02] I'll be happy to put it up. Um, you
[02:35:06] don't have to agree. You just said the
[02:35:07] left and right narrative is eroding and
[02:35:09] we're seeing the scop for what it is.
[02:35:10] Don't fall then into the scop of
[02:35:12] believing if I do or don't like a
[02:35:15] certain politician, then you and I
[02:35:17] should somehow be opposed. That's not
[02:35:19] true. I voted for this man three
[02:35:21] different times. But you want you want
[02:35:23] me to tell you something, tasteful tea
[02:35:25] totler? Congratulations on your
[02:35:26] sobriety, by the way. You want me to
[02:35:28] tell you something? I have more in
[02:35:30] common with you than him. And you're a
[02:35:32] progressive liberal.
[02:35:34] I have more in common with you than him.
[02:35:36] Why? Cuz we're not billionaires.
[02:35:38] Probably. If if you're a billionaire,
[02:35:41] let me know in the comments. But I have
[02:35:44] more in common with you. I have more in
[02:35:45] common with the most farleftwing,
[02:35:48] you know, girl with a septum ring,
[02:35:51] purple hair, hairy legs, uh, man-hating
[02:35:55] than I do Donald Trump because she knows
[02:35:58] what it's like to have to check the bank
[02:36:00] account before you run to Kroger
[02:36:02] and make sure you've got enough to get
[02:36:04] everything you need for the week. She
[02:36:06] knows what it's like to say, "Hey, the
[02:36:07] kids need shoes." But we also have to
[02:36:11] call the air conditioning repair guy and
[02:36:14] one of the toilet flappers is running.
[02:36:15] So, that's going to cost 15 bucks. And
[02:36:17] we've got to figure out how all this is
[02:36:19] going to work. And guess what? We've got
[02:36:23] this bill due and we've got that bill
[02:36:24] due. And you know what it's like. I know
[02:36:27] what it's like.
[02:36:30] He doesn't know what it's like. And so,
[02:36:32] while I might like some of his politics
[02:36:34] less and less as time goes by, um,
[02:36:40] he doesn't know what it's like to
[02:36:41] struggle to pay bills.
[02:36:44] And I've raised eight kids through
[02:36:46] various income levels, and I know
[02:36:47] exactly what it's like to to open up the
[02:36:50] checking account and go, you may spend
[02:36:52] $211 at Kroger because we have to leave
[02:36:56] a $100 balance in there. That's all
[02:36:59] we've got. So if it's 212, you've got to
[02:37:01] put something back.
[02:37:03] And so I have more in common with you
[02:37:04] than him. So don't let the left right
[02:37:06] divide. Don't fall into that trap. Don't
[02:37:09] fall into that trap. It's us and it's
[02:37:11] them. It's us and it's them. It's not
[02:37:15] It's not them, you know, you against me.
[02:37:21] Not at all. Not at all. Uh hey Baron,
[02:37:23] you seem to know your way around the
[02:37:24] Bible.
[02:37:24] >> Well, I mean,
[02:37:27] got one right here. Uh, did you follow a
[02:37:29] structured plan like the Bible in 365 or
[02:37:32] is there another way you'd recommend for
[02:37:33] studying it and getting around? If you
[02:37:35] are,
[02:37:37] great question. If you are completely
[02:37:40] unfamiliar with the Bible, if you are if
[02:37:43] you're starting at at a pretty much um
[02:37:46] what's it what's it called here? I want
[02:37:48] to make sure it's right. Yeah, this is
[02:37:49] this is the this is the tutorial for
[02:37:52] you. This is the um Bible in a year
[02:37:58] podcast with Father Mike Schmidtz and
[02:38:00] Jeff Cavens. So uh this is the one if
[02:38:05] you this day one in the beginning if you
[02:38:07] are unfamiliar with the Bible even if
[02:38:10] you're pretty familiar with the Bible
[02:38:11] unless you got like a PhD or something
[02:38:13] this is a great place to start.
[02:38:16] Protestant, Catholic, it doesn't matter.
[02:38:17] Yeah, there are some days that have a
[02:38:19] little bit of a Catholic bent, but most
[02:38:20] of it's pretty down the middle. Um,
[02:38:24] you know, when they when they get to the
[02:38:27] the parts about,
[02:38:29] you know, like the angel visits Mary,
[02:38:31] they're going to be a little more
[02:38:32] Catholic about Mary than
[02:38:35] probably if a Presbyterian did it. But,
[02:38:37] uh, it's pretty down the middle and it's
[02:38:39] a fantastic one. So, if if you if you're
[02:38:41] just starting out or you have kind of a
[02:38:43] medium understanding, go there. If you
[02:38:44] have a pretty good understanding, but
[02:38:45] you just want a great,
[02:38:48] then it's the Navar Study Bible.
[02:38:51] This thing is dope. Uh the the Navar
[02:38:55] Bible. Here's the New Testament expanded
[02:38:57] edition. Um Oh, let me get all the
[02:39:00] popups off before I pull it up for you.
[02:39:02] This thing right here is dope. We have
[02:39:06] uh the Navar commentary even. So, you
[02:39:09] can get the Navar Bible or you can get
[02:39:12] the Navar um commentary.
[02:39:15] The the commentary is like a set of
[02:39:20] 30 books or something. We also have
[02:39:21] that. So, that is that would be a great
[02:39:23] thing for you. So, it just depends on
[02:39:25] kind of where you starting where you're
[02:39:26] starting. But yeah, uh both will give
[02:39:28] you a pretty firm understanding and if
[02:39:30] somebody mentions something, you'll go,
[02:39:31] "Oh, I know what they're talking about.
[02:39:32] I know exactly where that is or I know
[02:39:34] about where that is."
[02:39:37] Uh,
[02:39:39] amazing collab. Thanks for all you do.
[02:39:40] Well, thanks for all you do. RPM87.
[02:39:43] Uh, Baron Coleman for president. I told
[02:39:45] you, Ally, I don't know that I want to
[02:39:47] be president. Ally, don't try to force
[02:39:51] this on me.
[02:39:56] Don't try to force this on me. I don't
[02:39:58] know that I want to be president. I
[02:40:00] think I would rather be Secretary of
[02:40:02] State. Secretary of State's the dopest
[02:40:04] job of all time in my opinion. in my
[02:40:06] opinion. You go out there negotiating on
[02:40:08] behalf of the American people. Are you
[02:40:09] kidding me? How awesome is that? Uh
[02:40:11] requesting permission to become a p
[02:40:13] member of the tinfoil hat IQ club.
[02:40:15] You're welcome. Come on in.
[02:40:19] If you don't own a tinfoil hat,
[02:40:22] you know what I saw? They had a um they
[02:40:24] had a almost like a fairday cage beanie
[02:40:28] to begin with. Tim Tim Pool needed one,
[02:40:30] but they they had like a Faraday cage
[02:40:32] beanie and um
[02:40:35] and they uh
[02:40:38] it it it was remarkable because they've
[02:40:40] really modernized the whole tinfoil hat.
[02:40:43] [laughter]
[02:40:45] Uh
[02:40:46] let me see.
[02:40:50] This is a good one. Hi Baron, love the
[02:40:52] show. Are you still convinced Brian
[02:40:53] convinced Brian Harpole's alibis
[02:40:55] regarding Fort Hua are legit or at least
[02:40:58] that he boarded the flights he bought
[02:40:59] tickets for? I missed an episode or two.
[02:41:01] Yes. 100 Well, I don't want to answer
[02:41:04] yes to all of it. I will say he 100%
[02:41:06] boarded the flight from Salt Lake City
[02:41:08] to excuse me, from DFW to Salt Lake
[02:41:11] City. I believe that. I believe he could
[02:41:15] have been traveling with a companion
[02:41:17] perhaps. That has not yet been
[02:41:19] disclosed.
[02:41:21] Um, so there's that potential,
[02:41:24] but I do believe he was on that flight.
[02:41:25] It was I think it was scheduled at 1:42,
[02:41:27] might have taken off at 148 on September
[02:41:30] 9th. That does not mean he has an alibi
[02:41:33] for 7:00 in the morning in Arizona. It
[02:41:36] just doesn't mean that. It means he was
[02:41:38] in Dallas at 1:42 p.m. Now, there's
[02:41:43] seven, six, seven hours between those
[02:41:44] two events, right? Five, six, seven
[02:41:46] hours. So, there's time to move about
[02:41:49] the country.
[02:41:50] But um yes uh but that doesn't so no I'm
[02:41:55] not convinced about his alibi. I am
[02:41:56] convinced he was on those planes. I 100
[02:41:58] well 99.44%
[02:42:01] convinced he was on the planes.
[02:42:03] So proud of you Baron Ian is fire and
[02:42:06] you two just nailed it. Man, I knew he
[02:42:08] would nail it. I knew he would. Of all
[02:42:12] the people I get suggestions for. You
[02:42:13] should do a show with so and so. You
[02:42:14] should do a show on so and so. And I'm
[02:42:16] sure he gets them and I'm sure Candace
[02:42:18] get everybody's getting them. Right. I
[02:42:19] would love to do a show with Candace. Uh
[02:42:21] I know I saw on her show today she
[02:42:23] mentioned that uh that we probably would
[02:42:25] do it on a Friday coming up pretty soon.
[02:42:27] Um I would love that. There are some
[02:42:30] other people I would love to do a show
[02:42:31] with. I'd like to do a show with Nate
[02:42:33] because I think we have enough
[02:42:34] differences of opinions on things.
[02:42:36] Candace and I have some differences of
[02:42:38] opinions on uh Charlie Kirk related. Uh
[02:42:40] we've talked about them. Um
[02:42:44] you know we you what do you think of
[02:42:45] this? Well, I think this why actually I
[02:42:47] think this and they didn't always line
[02:42:48] up. So, um
[02:42:51] I think that makes good content. I think
[02:42:53] it like Edan and I disagree on a few
[02:42:55] things. If you agree with everything
[02:42:57] somebody else says, well, you might as
[02:42:59] well just hear from that person.
[02:43:02] But that was great. I thought tonight
[02:43:03] was fantastic. Ian's fantastic. When he
[02:43:05] first sits down, it looks like he moves
[02:43:06] something under his shirt. What is it?
[02:43:08] Go back. So, I'll have to go back and
[02:43:09] look at that.
[02:43:11] Uh I know where I can find that.
[02:43:15] not high IQ enough to be worthy of your
[02:43:16] show, but we sit in awe of your
[02:43:18] knowledge and comedy. Thanks for all you
[02:43:19] do. We are so proud of you. You are
[02:43:20] certainly high IQ enough because you're
[02:43:22] watching and participating
[02:43:24] and you're saying good things.
[02:43:28] You're not saying things like, "How are
[02:43:30] you supporting Mitch?" And that's just
[02:43:33] telling you what Mitch said.
[02:43:36] Not vouching for 56 years of Mitch's
[02:43:38] life or however old he is. Uh, I'm sure
[02:43:41] Mitch has had ups and downs like we all
[02:43:43] have. Uh, thank you, Wendy. Very kind
[02:43:46] words. Thank you for the generous
[02:43:47] donation as well. Uh, just paying my
[02:43:51] free speech tax. Thanks for all you do.
[02:43:52] Uh, Diane Mooneyham, you have been a
[02:43:54] phenomenal commentator. Uh, yeah,
[02:43:56] commentator and commenter. Uh, but I'll
[02:43:59] say this is uh, commentary that you
[02:44:01] provide in the comments. Uh, you've been
[02:44:02] a good commentary, a good commentator.
[02:44:05] Uh, and um,
[02:44:09] you've been a a a reliable friend of the
[02:44:11] program. So, thank you. Uh,
[02:44:13] Nostradamitch's prediction. A great man
[02:44:15] struck down by thunder. Lightning bolt
[02:44:16] on the tent. Sounds about right. I'm not
[02:44:19] a Nostradamus guy. I think I have a
[02:44:22] Nostradamus book over there somewhere.
[02:44:24] Or I did at one point.
[02:44:27] Not sure where it is.
[02:44:30] I used to have a book of all his
[02:44:31] predictions. I may have loaned it to
[02:44:33] somebody and they didn't give it back or
[02:44:35] maybe hiding. I have like multiple
[02:44:37] levels of books back there. It might be
[02:44:38] hiding behind another book, but I used
[02:44:40] to read them and try to divine all these
[02:44:42] things from him and what does he mean?
[02:44:43] What is he saying? And then I realized
[02:44:45] he just it's bull butter. He's just
[02:44:47] saying stuff.
[02:44:49] Charles Carol of Carlton was not only
[02:44:51] the sole Catholic signer of the
[02:44:53] Declaration Independence, but also had
[02:44:55] the most elegant signature. IM O uh
[02:45:00] Charles Carol
[02:45:03] signature on Declaration of
[02:45:05] Independence. Let me take a peep at
[02:45:08] this. Let me get my Oh, what a beautiful
[02:45:10] signature. Wow,
[02:45:12] that's a work of art. Yeah, I will show
[02:45:15] this. You are correct. You are correct.
[02:45:19] Look at this thing. This is a beautiful
[02:45:22] signature. Yeah. Charles Carroll of
[02:45:24] Carolton,
[02:45:26] the only one that put his address on the
[02:45:28] Declaration of Independence. In other
[02:45:30] words, hey king, you want a piece of
[02:45:32] this? You know where I am?
[02:45:37] Or maybe he was into the queen.
[02:45:39] [laughter]
[02:45:40] You want a piece of this? You know where
[02:45:43] I am, girl. I don't know what Charles
[02:45:46] Carlton Carlton said. Back then it'd be
[02:45:48] like, do thou wantest a piece of thy
[02:45:51] Heiny?
[02:45:53] Thou shalt find me at Carlton, Maryland.
[02:45:59] Uh Baron got great show tonight. Got
[02:46:01] blocked by Dan on Twitter. Guess he
[02:46:02] didn't like being called a scumbag that
[02:46:04] protects pizza. Well, who among us?
[02:46:07] [laughter]
[02:46:08] Who among us would like to be called
[02:46:09] that? Uh Mr. Lamb rocker. I live by a
[02:46:13] guy named Lamb who is a rocker when it
[02:46:16] doesn't look like you. I just zoomed in.
[02:46:18] Um I wondered if you were he. Um
[02:46:23] no. I uh I don't think he would like
[02:46:25] that. I don't know what's up with Dan. I
[02:46:27] don't know why he's taking this.
[02:46:30] Maybe he thinks it's like how he he's
[02:46:32] supposed to reintroduce him. It's just a
[02:46:33] weird take. It's a weird take. Uh Ian,
[02:46:38] you were there when they were doing that
[02:46:40] construction. Have you gone back through
[02:46:41] your photos and footage to see if you
[02:46:43] could zoom in and spot any of those
[02:46:44] little black pieces. Love that you guys
[02:46:46] are live researching this together.
[02:46:48] Well, I will take a picture of this and
[02:46:49] send it to him. I did not know that's
[02:46:51] when he was there. He was there that
[02:46:52] soon. 4 days after. Is that true? Is
[02:46:56] this true? That's my Hiller shout out
[02:46:58] again.
[02:47:00] Uh, thank you. Uh, uh, Louise Doss,
[02:47:04] thank you. Very, very generous donation.
[02:47:07] You guys are
[02:47:09] very kind. Erica's uncle Jack Solomon
[02:47:11] and Norman Elvance had SEC fraud brought
[02:47:14] in 1983.
[02:47:18] While interesting facts, I'm not sure
[02:47:20] about the relevance to the Charlie Kirk
[02:47:22] investigation, but I am open to hearing
[02:47:24] more should you want to bring more to
[02:47:26] the table at Real [email protected].
[02:47:29] Love the show. Podcast duo the whole
[02:47:31] shebang. Erica Kirk, Devil Voice, Devil
[02:47:33] Tale, and Hair Jokes are hysterical.
[02:47:35] Thank you. I promised not to do the
[02:47:37] devil voice tonight. Uh semi- new fan
[02:47:39] super uh new super got my mom to
[02:47:41] subscribe. Donating to your dog's toy
[02:47:43] fund. I will put that $10 to good use
[02:47:47] for the dog. Uh, looks like you got a Is
[02:47:49] that a dog? Yeah. Now you guys don't
[02:47:51] understand how small this screen I'm
[02:47:53] staring at is. You'd be shocked. Um,
[02:47:58] yeah.
[02:47:59] See, I got to have the screen in front
[02:48:01] of the camera, and I can only be so big.
[02:48:02] Otherwise, the camera will be out down
[02:48:04] here looking down at me. Um,
[02:48:08] the camera's got to be able to see over
[02:48:09] the screen, right? Uh, yeah. Okay, cool.
[02:48:13] Um,
[02:48:14] I am not going to do the devil voice
[02:48:16] tonight.
[02:48:18] I mean, maybe at the very end of the
[02:48:20] show. [laughter]
[02:48:21] Maybe at the very very end of the show.
[02:48:24] Uh, Candace on Boyer. Erica said that in
[02:48:26] old interview she was introduced to
[02:48:27] Charlie by Boyer and then again with her
[02:48:29] mom in Israel. Then again, Tyler
[02:48:32] suggested her come to an interview with
[02:48:33] New York Tyler.
[02:48:36] I I think we've established Erica's
[02:48:38] stories change quite a bit.
[02:48:43] I that's my guess. I think Dan never
[02:48:45] quit. He's going home to work from home
[02:48:46] to bash you, Candace, Ian, etc. They
[02:48:48] know they've lost everyone and feel Dan
[02:48:49] is the best weapon where all else has
[02:48:51] failed. I have suspected that that he's
[02:48:54] not really leaving the employee of the
[02:48:56] FBI.
[02:48:58] I have suspected that that he's going to
[02:49:00] come out bombthrowing because they got
[02:49:02] they got in there and said Ben Shapiro
[02:49:05] is not the guy we need out there
[02:49:06] convincing people. We got to have you,
[02:49:09] Dano.
[02:49:12] Uh, would love a collab with Jason
[02:49:14] Goodman. Anything you have Vegas related
[02:49:15] would be awesome. You're a breath of
[02:49:16] fresh air, Baron. Well, thank you. Uh,
[02:49:19] crispy chips. Love how you're willing to
[02:49:21] consider all perspectives, no matter how
[02:49:23] odd. I am. I've been I mean, I honestly
[02:49:25] am a very curious person. That is the
[02:49:28] basis of my show. I don't know if you
[02:49:30] guys have figured that out. Those of you
[02:49:31] who've been here for years watching me
[02:49:33] flail around on podcasting and and
[02:49:36] decades or more or more than a decade
[02:49:38] watching me on radio before that, you
[02:49:40] may have understood that by now, but
[02:49:41] some of you newbies don't understand.
[02:49:42] The whole premise of this show is I am
[02:49:44] insanely curious why I like talking to
[02:49:47] people. If you ever meet me in person,
[02:49:50] all I do is interrupt you and ask you
[02:49:51] questions and it's annoying the hell out
[02:49:53] of a lot of people. But you'll be
[02:49:56] talking about something and and now I'm
[02:49:57] ready to move on to the next one. But
[02:49:58] I'm gonna keep asking you questions. So,
[02:50:00] where'd you grow up?
[02:50:02] Where'd you go to high school? Did you
[02:50:04] go to college? Where'd you go to
[02:50:04] college? What did you do out of what?
[02:50:06] Did you get a job out of what where did
[02:50:07] you go work? I mean, I just And it's not
[02:50:10] that I'm being rude. I It's It's intense
[02:50:13] interest in other people. I'm very
[02:50:16] interested in people's stories. I
[02:50:17] Everybody has a story. I have a story.
[02:50:19] You have a story. Next person I pull up,
[02:50:22] who is this? Just common sensing it. She
[02:50:23] has a story. I learn a lot during super
[02:50:25] chats and enjoy them. I always stay on
[02:50:27] the end because I don't want to miss
[02:50:28] anything. See, I just learned something
[02:50:29] about her. She likes conversation. She's
[02:50:32] a conversationalist. I bet if you went
[02:50:34] to dinner with just common sensing it,
[02:50:36] you would have a blast. You'd have a
[02:50:39] blast. Grab a couple of friends, three,
[02:50:40] four of you guys go to dinner, just
[02:50:42] common sensing it, it will keep the
[02:50:44] common keep the conversation going. Why?
[02:50:45] She's insanely curious. She likes
[02:50:48] hearing what people say. She likes
[02:50:49] hearing the super chats. She likes
[02:50:51] hearing the responses. I would love to I
[02:50:54] see her black and white picture there. I
[02:50:55] don't know anything about her. I'd love
[02:50:57] to ask her a story. Where'd you grow up?
[02:50:59] Oh, you grew up in Kansas. Is it as flat
[02:51:01] as they say? Did your family work in
[02:51:03] corn? [laughter]
[02:51:06] Uh, that's great. Um,
[02:51:10] but oh, oh, back to here. Yes, I would
[02:51:12] love a collab with Jason Good just
[02:51:14] because I love his personality so much
[02:51:16] and I've been listening to him for
[02:51:17] years. I bet I've been listening to
[02:51:18] Jason Goodman for 10 years
[02:51:22] almost.
[02:51:24] Almost. I would do that. Uh, I just
[02:51:26] heard you say it. The big boom could be
[02:51:28] detonated by an electrical poles. An EMP
[02:51:30] to be specific. Something Erica's mom
[02:51:32] was working on with the military at Fort
[02:51:34] Wuka. Jesus loves you. Uh, Jesus loves
[02:51:36] you too, Will. I think she was working
[02:51:37] on hardening systems to withstand uh,
[02:51:41] EMPs. I don't think she was working on
[02:51:42] creating. I could be wrong. I don't know
[02:51:45] everything she's done, but um,
[02:51:49] look, do I Let me just put this out here
[02:51:51] because I I I sense a lot of people
[02:51:53] thinking there's an Erica Kirk mom angle
[02:51:54] to this whole thing. Do I think Erica
[02:51:55] Kirk's mom's weird? Yes.
[02:51:58] Um,
[02:52:01] do I think Erica Kirk is weird? Yes.
[02:52:06] But I don't know. I mean, I think we
[02:52:08] know all we're going to publicly know
[02:52:09] from Erikica Kirk's mom. Like, there's
[02:52:12] no more You can't direct me to a website
[02:52:15] to learn more about her mom. And I I
[02:52:17] think that's
[02:52:19] that's where sometimes audiences
[02:52:22] stop.
[02:52:23] They get to the point where we've
[02:52:25] exhausted everything we can possibly
[02:52:26] know by website.
[02:52:30] Floating in the air right here.
[02:52:32] Um that we get to where everything we
[02:52:35] can possibly know by website
[02:52:38] has been exhausted and and um and then
[02:52:42] we stop
[02:52:44] and and and they and a lot of people
[02:52:46] don't take that next step. So, okay, we
[02:52:48] we know about her work at uh E3 Tech. We
[02:52:51] know about the different companies she'd
[02:52:52] had. know about her work with um the geo
[02:52:55] fencing company. We know about her work
[02:52:57] with different defense contractors. We
[02:52:59] know about her work with the Farnsworth.
[02:53:01] We know we know about all this stuff.
[02:53:06] And then people just are like, "Well,
[02:53:07] did you know this?" Well, yeah, I know
[02:53:09] it. Right. And I'm not making fun of
[02:53:10] you. I'm I'm just saying that I'm
[02:53:12] suggesting the once we've exhausted the
[02:53:15] the open-source intelligence
[02:53:18] available to us, now it's time to pick
[02:53:21] up the phone and start calling people.
[02:53:23] Now it's time to start getting some shoe
[02:53:24] leather on the ground. I'm not always
[02:53:26] that guy.
[02:53:29] you know, then and the beauty of having
[02:53:30] 35 36,000 people watching tonight uh
[02:53:35] with Ian and and me live and the beauty
[02:53:37] of it'll probably end up with, you know,
[02:53:40] half a million people maybe between our
[02:53:42] two channels or more seeing some portion
[02:53:45] of this. The beauty is that that's half
[02:53:48] a million people.
[02:53:50] Somebody's going to have an idea. Wait a
[02:53:52] minute. What if we I know a guy who
[02:53:55] knows her. I know a guy who grew up with
[02:53:56] her. Let me call him. Oh, I know a guy
[02:53:58] who used to work at E3 Tech. Let me give
[02:54:00] a that guy a call. He left in a huff. He
[02:54:03] might be still mad and want to say, I
[02:54:04] mean, you just never know. So, we raise
[02:54:06] these issues, we talk about it, and then
[02:54:08] we sit back and see what comes back so
[02:54:10] we can synthesize and go one step
[02:54:13] further.
[02:54:15] And that's not me like
[02:54:17] like I'm aware of the EMP discussions.
[02:54:20] I'm aware of the the products, but it's
[02:54:22] like I if we're going to keep talking
[02:54:24] about Lorie Frans, we got to go one step
[02:54:27] further. We have to get into outside of
[02:54:30] open source and into shoe leather
[02:54:32] reporting. So, you know, George Webb
[02:54:35] takes a lot of slings and arrows, but at
[02:54:37] least he's standing in
[02:54:39] court in front of courouses talk trying
[02:54:42] to talk to people whether or not they'll
[02:54:44] talk to him.
[02:54:46] Uh, money talks with James Ruer. I
[02:54:48] pulled this up on purpose. A lot of you
[02:54:50] are here because of James Ruer and you
[02:54:51] don't even know that.
[02:54:54] A lot of you are here because of James
[02:54:56] Ruer and you don't know that. Why?
[02:54:57] Because when I did my very first Charlie
[02:55:00] Kirk show on um on the Google Trends,
[02:55:04] James was one of the people I was
[02:55:05] talking to helping to put that together.
[02:55:07] James, I don't know if you wanted me to
[02:55:08] tell you all that. And then James was
[02:55:10] out there sending those episodes to
[02:55:11] people on Twitter like, "You should
[02:55:12] check this out. You should check this
[02:55:13] out. You should check this out." And I
[02:55:15] watched my subscriber base start to go
[02:55:16] up and I watched my live views start to
[02:55:18] go up. And then I watched Ian Carol take
[02:55:20] and this whole thing is taking on an
[02:55:22] entirely new existence because James
[02:55:24] Ruer James deals with money. If you have
[02:55:26] a bunch of money, you need to call him
[02:55:27] because he'll help you protect it.
[02:55:31] James, great guy. Uh, y'all stop with
[02:55:32] the replace the Trump photo. I'm not
[02:55:34] always a fan of DJT, but the man has
[02:55:36] done more for the US than any president
[02:55:37] in modern time. Roll that beautiful bean
[02:55:41] footage. I um pulled that up for a
[02:55:44] reason.
[02:55:45] Yes.
[02:55:48] Yes, I agree with you. Um I don't have
[02:55:52] to agree with everything he's done. The
[02:55:54] vaccine schedule reduction alone that he
[02:55:57] did. Now again, what always happens is
[02:55:59] we get the headline and then days that
[02:56:01] follow we get the truth. We'll see if
[02:56:02] the truth holds up to the headline, but
[02:56:04] the headline looked great. dropping from
[02:56:06] 70 uh 72 down to 17 total vaccines on
[02:56:10] the schedule for kids. If that holds up,
[02:56:12] if that's truth,
[02:56:14] if if if you know the health outcomes,
[02:56:18] the the improvement to health globally
[02:56:22] in America
[02:56:24] is going to be so massive
[02:56:28] that that alone might like justify all
[02:56:30] the the thing. And it's not like had
[02:56:32] Camela won, you'd have gotten a totally
[02:56:34] different outcome.
[02:56:36] So I, you know, you take, what is it?
[02:56:39] Just as Brennan said, you take the
[02:56:40] bitter with the sweet.
[02:56:42] Uh, now we're talking Catholic, we're
[02:56:43] talking Catholicism. Now I'm interested.
[02:56:45] Yeah. What? James good Catholic. James a
[02:56:47] good Catholic boy. Harpole lied on Sean
[02:56:50] Ryan said no credible threats threats as
[02:56:51] of the day before the Big Bang. Yeah.
[02:56:53] Uh, he lied about more than that. I
[02:56:55] think in my opinion, allegedly. I think
[02:56:58] he's latigious,
[02:57:00] but I think I think he might have uh
[02:57:05] uh got a really good one that said not
[02:57:08] to read on air, but it but it was it was
[02:57:10] sweet
[02:57:11] talking about um
[02:57:14] talking about uh enjoying the super
[02:57:16] chats. So, uh $5 for the shout out. Hey,
[02:57:20] money talks, James. No, [laughter]
[02:57:23] go talk to James Rudder. Look him up.
[02:57:25] You'll find him. You'll understand what
[02:57:26] I'm talking about. Uh, he has a way and
[02:57:29] you can't be poor and call him because
[02:57:30] he, you know, takes money to make money,
[02:57:32] but he has a way to to help you not lose
[02:57:34] money during during tough economies. Uh,
[02:57:37] sidebar, I got my mom hooked on your
[02:57:39] show and she bought me the art of
[02:57:40] cross-examination.
[02:57:42] My mom is clearly not a joke. That's a
[02:57:44] great book. It's it's it's old and so
[02:57:48] it's got, you know, early to mid 20th
[02:57:51] century writing, but it's great. You'll
[02:57:55] be hooked on it. you'll absolutely be
[02:57:57] hooked. Uh, always an awesome live.
[02:57:59] Thank you, Baron and Ian. Everyone like
[02:58:01] the live on both sides. Yes. Oh,
[02:58:02] everyone like both shows and subscribe
[02:58:04] to both shows
[02:58:06] cuz what I'd love to see is this
[02:58:08] particular show with the two of us hit
[02:58:11] new heights out there. So, subscribe to
[02:58:13] the Real Baron podcast. Subscribe to Ian
[02:58:15] Carroll Show and uh and like both of
[02:58:18] them. That will push it to the al to the
[02:58:20] top of the algorithm and we will um
[02:58:24] you'll be great. Uh, I find the
[02:58:26] exploding microphone intriguing, but
[02:58:27] that hypothesis falls apart when you
[02:58:28] question how a microphone on his right
[02:58:30] side strikes the left side of his neck.
[02:58:33] Not necessarily. I mean, if the
[02:58:35] microphone
[02:58:37] uh So, so this was the hole here, right?
[02:58:39] I don't know if the screen's reversed or
[02:58:40] not, but this was the hole. We'll say
[02:58:42] this is the hole. And here's the
[02:58:43] microphone.
[02:58:45] If it stayed here, I would agree with
[02:58:47] you. But if you'll notice in the first
[02:58:49] few frames, it comes all the way over
[02:58:50] here. like that magnet comes all the way
[02:58:54] across and then you see the damage and
[02:58:57] then the magnet comes back.
[02:59:00] So, I don't know that I necessarily
[02:59:04] agree with that analysis, but I'm not
[02:59:06] married to any of this. I am raising it
[02:59:08] and looking for smart people like you,
[02:59:10] Chug, to come in and discuss whether or
[02:59:13] not it holds up. Uh, do you think it's
[02:59:15] possible that being that that being
[02:59:17] Tyler dropped out of college and was a
[02:59:19] third-year student in the electoral
[02:59:20] apprentice program? Is it possible he's
[02:59:21] the one that tampered with the
[02:59:22] microphone? No. No, I don't think it's
[02:59:25] possible at all. Uh, news is noise to
[02:59:28] cover the truth they're trying to
[02:59:29] distract us from. And they call it
[02:59:30] action so we don't do anything. Yeah,
[02:59:32] that's that's also what Q was. That's
[02:59:34] what Q was, a distraction. So, everybody
[02:59:36] sat around not doing anything. Okay.
[02:59:38] Vegas. I listened to the live event uh
[02:59:40] listened to the event live via
[02:59:41] Broadcastify and later reviewed the
[02:59:43] archive after Ian show. More than half
[02:59:45] the police communication are gone.
[02:59:48] Your laugh still makes me Jojo laugh.
[02:59:51] Oh, I did not know that they were taken
[02:59:52] down. I'm I'm hustling because I have to
[02:59:54] go to I have to pee so bad. It's been
[02:59:56] three hours. Uh I started with this
[02:59:58] giant coffee right as we were going on
[02:59:59] air because I was very tired and uh and
[03:00:02] it you can you can't buy coffee. You can
[03:00:04] only rent it. Such a great show,
[03:00:05] especially tonight with Ian. never
[03:00:07] ceases to amaze me. Your all's insights
[03:00:09] and research. Well, thank you.
[03:00:11] Thank you. That is very kind. That is
[03:00:13] very kind. Seeing Ian Vegas is on the
[03:00:15] brain would be noteworthy if they were
[03:00:16] Jacock employees from Fort Bragg staying
[03:00:18] at Mandalay Bay that night.
[03:00:21] Um,
[03:00:24] that's interesting. That's interesting.
[03:00:27] Uh, you you you'd have to enlighten me
[03:00:29] on uh on the more about why that would
[03:00:33] be important. Born and raised near a
[03:00:34] city you have mentioned a few times.
[03:00:36] Well, I've mentioned a lot of cities,
[03:00:37] ma'am.
[03:00:38] A lot of cities. Uh, but again, see, she
[03:00:41] likes conversation. She is a
[03:00:43] conversationalist.
[03:00:45] Uh, great. We've gotten James arrested.
[03:00:48] [laughter]
[03:00:49] Now the FBI's knocking on his door. Um,
[03:00:53] Harpole Alibi. Glad it's impossible for
[03:00:54] intel agencies to provide doppelganger
[03:00:56] with fake ID to board plane for him if
[03:00:58] they needed him at a meeting. Uh, yeah.
[03:01:02] Okay, that's possible.
[03:01:05] I got you. Okay. Yeah, somebody scanned
[03:01:08] Brian Harpole's tickets. I cannot say
[03:01:09] the real Brian Harpole scanned. You're
[03:01:13] right. You're right. You know, but they
[03:01:16] do take your photo when you go in now. I
[03:01:19] wonder if that's foyable. I don't think
[03:01:21] it is.
[03:01:23] Uh,
[03:01:25] we're getting down towards the end here.
[03:01:26] Oh my gosh, Baron, you're my brother
[03:01:27] from another mother. Thank you, Victory
[03:01:29] Base. Happy to be that. I wanted to be
[03:01:31] an attorney or child psychologist. I do
[03:01:33] not want to be a child psychologist.
[03:01:34] Attorney's fine because I'm insanely
[03:01:36] curious and asking millions of questions
[03:01:38] about details that no one else would
[03:01:39] probably care about. Love your show.
[03:01:40] Yeah. That's what makes a good attorney.
[03:01:42] That's what makes um a uh a good
[03:01:45] journalist. That's what makes a good
[03:01:47] parent. That's what makes a good child.
[03:01:50] Um it's what makes a good plumber. It's
[03:01:52] what makes a good accountant. It's what
[03:01:54] makes a good um
[03:01:59] uh interior decorator.
[03:02:02] It's what I mean. There's almost nothing
[03:02:04] you can do in life
[03:02:07] where being insanely curious won't be an
[03:02:10] advantage. I mean, there are a few jobs
[03:02:11] perhaps, but it it helps. It helps. So,
[03:02:13] thank you, Victory Base. Uh, thank you,
[03:02:15] Amy Early. Very kind of you to do that,
[03:02:18] Baron. I'm closing in on 150,000
[03:02:20] subscribers. Quick, LET'S GET THERE.
[03:02:21] LET'S GO. I'm just kidding. Uh, guys, I
[03:02:24] appreciate it. You guys have been great.
[03:02:25] I'm going to jump off here uh and get
[03:02:28] this uh get this show on the road.
[03:02:31] I appreciate you joining us. Um, we will
[03:02:34] do this again. Ian was great to have on.
[03:02:36] I am not going to be on in all
[03:02:37] likelihood tomorrow. I don't believe so
[03:02:39] unless something massive breaks. Uh,
[03:02:41] I've been on Sunday night, Monday night,
[03:02:42] and Tuesday night. Three nights in a
[03:02:44] row. I'm going to take a night off and
[03:02:45] I'll be back Thursday for sure. And I
[03:02:47] don't know about Friday, but Thursday
[03:02:49] for sure. Uh, in the meantime, don't
[03:02:51] forget like and subscribe both channels.
[03:02:54] Like and subscribe. Ian, like and
[03:02:56] subscribe. uh Baron Coleman or Real
[03:02:59] Baron podcast, however, however you find
[03:03:00] it. And um share the program with your
[03:03:04] friends. That helps. Say, "Hey, I found
[03:03:05] these guys. They're great. You might
[03:03:06] want to listen to them." That helps a
[03:03:08] ton. And and the most important thing,
[03:03:10] the most important lesson every single
[03:03:12] night,
[03:03:14] Jesus loves
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