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[00:00:00] Joe, [00:00:01] Andrew Kulvet and Blake Nef in. So we [00:00:04] want to get to this PTOAC story. Yes, [00:00:07] the PTOIC, not the PTOAC, because it has [00:00:11] just experienced the largest sewage [00:00:14] spill in US history. [00:00:16] 240 million gallons of raw sewage [00:00:19] flooding the PTOAC in one month. This [00:00:21] has been going on for weeks, [00:00:24] which is just remarkable actually that [00:00:26] anything this catastrophic and horrific [00:00:29] and smelly and gross and disgusting [00:00:31] would be allowed to happen. Almost like [00:00:34] we're the third world. [00:00:35] >> I can't imagine just a giant poop smell [00:00:37] permeating over the capital of the [00:00:40] United States of America. Drain the swap [00:00:42] where all the politicians and power [00:00:44] seekers are. [00:00:45] >> I know it's terrible. So, here's the [00:00:46] thing. There's multiple layers to this [00:00:49] story. Let's uh let's start with NBC is [00:00:51] finally covering this 464. [00:00:54] >> The river George Washington called the [00:00:56] nation's river is tonight off limits and [00:00:59] contaminated after a 60-year-old sewage [00:01:02] line in Maryland broke open last month, [00:01:04] spewing more than 240 million gallons of [00:01:07] raw waste into the river. The same river [00:01:10] that flows past the Kennedy Center and [00:01:12] the Lincoln Memorial and used by Boers, [00:01:14] kayakers, high school, and college [00:01:16] rowing teams. So you can see some of the [00:01:18] toilet paper and the sewage up on the [00:01:20] banks there. [00:01:21] >> River keeper Dean Nells says the stench [00:01:24] and environmental damage are staggering [00:01:26] with E.coli levels more than 10,000 [00:01:29] times above EPA quality standards at the [00:01:32] time of the spill. [00:01:34] >> I think they could fix it. They could [00:01:35] just take a box of like kitchen matches [00:01:38] and you just light it and burn it for a [00:01:40] bit and get all [00:01:40] >> Yeah. Well, if you set the PTOIC on [00:01:42] fire, uh it would probably clean it up [00:01:45] faster than what they're going to do [00:01:46] here. And they're saying this might not [00:01:47] be fixed for nine months. [00:01:49] >> Yeah. It's just I feel like that's [00:01:51] that's probably the most emblematic [00:01:52] thing. It's that when you're decaying [00:01:55] you you read like the Hoover Dam got [00:01:57] built in like two years or something. [00:02:00] The Empire State Building went up in 9 [00:02:01] months. I think less than a year [00:02:03] >> and now [00:02:04] >> and Chinese are building ships in we [00:02:06] can't fix a pipe for 9 months. [00:02:07] >> You don't even need to look at China. I [00:02:08] remember Japan once they raised an [00:02:10] entire train line in a day. You can [00:02:12] watch the time lapse. They just shut [00:02:13] down the whole station and did it all in [00:02:14] one night. And now there's there's a [00:02:17] powerful symbolism in it's already been [00:02:19] a month. This is a it's a six foot wide [00:02:21] pipe. It's quite the quite the [00:02:24] >> and I guess some rocks. [00:02:26] >> There's like a rock dam. So they they're [00:02:28] investigating like oh well we have to [00:02:29] clear this rock dam before we can cure [00:02:31] the blockage. But yes, 6 months, nine [00:02:33] months. And you know when they say it'll [00:02:35] take nine months, that means it might [00:02:36] take them a year, two years. They might [00:02:38] just say, you know, ultimately it's now [00:02:39] just the sewage river. [00:02:41] >> It's the sewage river. It's the ptoic. [00:02:43] And now President Trump is blaming Wes [00:02:45] Moore for Maryland. The governor there [00:02:47] and the governor is blaming the feds. [00:02:50] 465. [00:02:52] >> President Trump has blamed Maryland's [00:02:54] Democratic governor Wes Moore for gross [00:02:56] mismanagement. While Moore fired back, [00:02:59] saying the pipe was federally built and [00:03:01] regulated and the Trump EPA has been [00:03:03] slow to respond. The fear now the PTOAC [00:03:06] may not be safe for months. [00:03:08] >> You used to swim right here. [00:03:10] >> I've swam right here. [00:03:11] >> Would you swim in here again? Not for a [00:03:13] while. [00:03:14] >> DC Water expects to have the immediate [00:03:16] repair job done by mid-March, but [00:03:19] overhauling the entire line could take [00:03:21] at least 9 months. As America turns [00:03:23] [music] 250 this year, we want to help [00:03:26] good ranchers take a moment to remember [00:03:27] the people who helped build it. 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[00:04:11] DC Waters manager David Gatis had a [00:04:15] whole theory of the case. What was wrong [00:04:17] with the people running this system [00:04:19] before? H I'll give you a couple [00:04:21] guesses. [00:04:23] 422. [00:04:25] >> You know, when I arrived at DC Water, [00:04:27] this was an organization that looked [00:04:29] very similar to our to our our industry. [00:04:32] It was predominantly, you know, white [00:04:34] male uh at the top, but this is a [00:04:36] utility that's, you know, more than 70% [00:04:39] people of color work at this utility. [00:04:41] The people at the top, the executives, [00:04:43] the chiefs in that seauite, they should [00:04:46] look like uh the employees uh that they [00:04:49] that they serve and that they work with. [00:04:51] And the same thing with the community. [00:04:53] And so my executive team, you know, [00:04:56] looks exactly like the community. It [00:04:58] looks like it looks like the the the [00:05:00] employees, the staff, you know, be it [00:05:03] people of color, women. [00:05:05] >> Well, now they have a river filled with [00:05:06] poop. [00:05:07] >> Yeah. So, how did that work out? Yeah. [00:05:08] So, okay, they it used to be a bunch of [00:05:10] white men running it, and they're the [00:05:12] ones who built the pipe. They probably [00:05:13] built it faster than they'll ever repair [00:05:15] it here now. It worked for 60 years. [00:05:19] >> Well, and then the fact that this was [00:05:20] going for four weeks is another just [00:05:22] damning detail. It sort of it just seems [00:05:24] to have started as a small story and [00:05:26] then just it keeps going and people are [00:05:28] like wait that's still going. There's [00:05:30] still poo going in the river. [00:05:31] >> You're telling me that the river that [00:05:32] flows by the Kennedy Center and the [00:05:34] Jefferson Memorial and the Lincoln [00:05:35] Memorial right through our nation's [00:05:37] capital is filled with poo. [00:05:39] >> Now admittedly I will I feel obliged to [00:05:41] point out that the PTOAC actually has [00:05:43] been polluted a long time. So I I know [00:05:45] when I moved to DC, you were not [00:05:46] supposed to swim in the PTOAC and that [00:05:48] there was like a decadel long cleanup [00:05:50] process and I think maybe a couple years [00:05:54] ago they finally said you could swim in [00:05:55] it and now it's just right back into the [00:05:56] pool. [00:05:57] >> Well, they have ecoli levels at 10,000 [00:05:59] times. [00:05:59] >> Now you definitely can't, but even [00:06:01] before you were always told not to swim [00:06:03] in it. [00:06:03] >> Here is here is a general observation [00:06:07] because white men get a lot of crap. We [00:06:11] get we get [00:06:12] >> we're the only group it's like [00:06:13] acceptable [00:06:13] >> acceptable to attack us. They have [00:06:15] genocidal fantasies about them. [00:06:17] >> Set the record straight though. White [00:06:19] men created western civilization. [00:06:23] >> They settled this continent. [00:06:25] >> They built the most successful, [00:06:27] functional, prosperous and advanced [00:06:29] societies on planet earth. [00:06:31] And if you are going to go into the [00:06:33] seauite of a utility that runs your [00:06:35] sewage for millions of people and you [00:06:39] remove us arbitrarily, whether that be [00:06:41] culturally or in this case [00:06:43] bureaucratically, [00:06:45] don't be surprised when your city [00:06:49] regresses to the historical mean. Most [00:06:52] places on planet Earth have rivers [00:06:54] filled with poop. Now, if you want if [00:06:56] you want to understand exactly how this [00:06:58] works, there's there's a great exount. [00:06:59] I'm going to shout it out to everyone [00:07:00] and we should talk about it on [00:07:01] Thoughtrime next time we have it. Uh [00:07:03] it's a Twitter account called Josie [00:07:05] versus Josie. That's J O Zi. So Josie [00:07:08] versus Josie. [00:07:09] >> And it's Johannesburg. That's the [00:07:11] nickname for it in South Africa. [00:07:14] >> And all the only thing the account is is [00:07:16] it's photos of Johannesburg from 2010, [00:07:21] 2000, 1990. Old photos of Johannesburg, [00:07:23] but mostly like 2009, 2010 old Google [00:07:26] Maps photos. So when they would just [00:07:27] drive around and take photos and then [00:07:29] today [00:07:30] >> and that's all the account is and all [00:07:33] you have is Johannesburg after another [00:07:35] 15 years of there there's a lot of DEI. [00:07:38] South Africa is basically the DEI [00:07:41] country. It's in their laws in their [00:07:43] constitution at this point. You have to [00:07:44] have African economic empowerment I [00:07:46] believe they call it. Uh black economic [00:07:48] empowerment. They'll have labels like [00:07:50] that. And [00:07:52] that is how they run their country. You [00:07:54] can see how it's turned out. Rodishia is [00:07:55] another example of that. There's [00:07:57] beautiful pictures of Rodishia from the [00:07:59] 1960s and 70s. [00:08:00] >> Or go if you want a closer to home [00:08:02] example, go to London like Charlie did [00:08:04] last spring. You'll see beautiful [00:08:06] building after beautiful building built [00:08:09] 200 years ago. And they can't they can [00:08:12] barely even repair them now. They're [00:08:14] they're talking about tearing down the [00:08:15] Palace of Westminster because it would [00:08:17] be annoying to repair it. [00:08:18] >> They can't do that. [00:08:19] >> They they we should we should do regime [00:08:22] change on them if they try to change it. [00:08:23] >> Can't go that far. Um, you know, be [00:08:26] careful when you attack the people that [00:08:29] uphold society, that produce in your [00:08:31] society, that maintain it, that built it [00:08:33] in the first place. You might just miss [00:08:36] them when they are gone. And I think the [00:08:38] PTOIC story is a sad sad reminder that [00:08:42] villainizing white people often comes [00:08:45] with steep costs.