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Candace Owens Just TORCHED Turning Point — This Cease & Desist Is INSANE

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[00:00:02] There it is. [00:00:05] Let's get into it. Happy Monday, [00:00:07] everybody. I can't wait to hear Candace [00:00:10] weigh in on this. She already has, and [00:00:12] I'm going to be showing you that. A lot [00:00:14] of you don't have X, so you don't know [00:00:16] that Candace Owens has weighed in on [00:00:18] what happened with Wolves in Finance. [00:00:20] Recently, he received a cease and desist [00:00:23] letter from Turning Point for various [00:00:25] things that he said in his videos when [00:00:28] he was following the money of everything [00:00:31] and looking into their financials and [00:00:33] tax and even showing up to a building to [00:00:36] see if the actual business existed. [00:00:39] So, I was like, "Okay, I I want to check [00:00:42] this out. It's very interesting. Uh what [00:00:45] Candace has to say is very true. I'll be [00:00:47] showing you that in a second. But for [00:00:49] those of you that don't know about [00:00:50] what's going on, I want to give you a [00:00:51] rundown. I have like four or five clips [00:00:54] of Wolves and Finance talking about this [00:00:56] whole thing and he's setting the record [00:00:58] straight in certain places and in other [00:01:00] places he is standing 10 toes down on [00:01:05] his opinion because he says he should [00:01:07] not have to change his opinion. He is [00:01:09] allowed to have his opinion. I myself [00:01:12] think this is a terrible move by Turning [00:01:14] Point. Uh, I don't understand why [00:01:17] they're doing this type of thing. Uh, it [00:01:19] looks ridiculous and it's one of the [00:01:22] many things that I've talked about that [00:01:23] Turning Point does and you're like, what [00:01:25] is going on? Like, who is the person [00:01:28] who's okaying all of this? It just [00:01:30] doesn't make sense in my opinion. [00:01:32] Anyway, let's jump into more important [00:01:34] things. Of course, whoever did this, [00:01:37] shout out to you. You have blessed me [00:01:39] with quite the body. Okay, thank you so [00:01:42] much for this. And you guys don't even [00:01:44] know this looks exactly like my brother. [00:01:46] I have a brother. He looks exa from the [00:01:48] body to the face to the hat even. Looks [00:01:51] just like my brother. Shout out to you. [00:01:53] Thank you so much. Keep those mint memes [00:01:56] coming. But let's jump into Wolves and [00:01:58] Finance. Hear what he has to say. Point [00:01:59] states in the letter, "Turning point [00:02:00] entities are not looking for litigation. [00:02:02] Rather, their interest is in the truth [00:02:04] and making sure the public record is [00:02:05] accurate." So they are claiming they do [00:02:08] not want to sue me. But I view this [00:02:10] letter as a threat to sue. and I think [00:02:12] any reasonable business person would do [00:02:14] the same. A cease and desist letter is [00:02:16] the first step towards a defamation [00:02:18] lawsuit. I interpret this letter as [00:02:21] Turning Point telling me to shut my [00:02:23] mouth or they're going to sue me. I do [00:02:26] not understand what Erica Kirk is doing. [00:02:29] Out of the hundreds of people posting on [00:02:31] social media about Turning Point, why [00:02:33] are they targeting me? Why are they so [00:02:36] worried about what I am saying that [00:02:37] they're sending me legal letters? I am [00:02:40] he's the one he's the one following the [00:02:42] money. I haven't seen many people follow [00:02:44] the money uh so closely like he has and [00:02:48] he has a background in it and he can [00:02:50] point things out. So I think that has to [00:02:54] be the reason why you know he also lives [00:02:56] in Arizona. I don't know if that's any [00:02:58] connection, but you know, again, he's [00:03:01] he's been doing good work in regards to [00:03:04] looking into what they have going on. [00:03:06] And it seems like they've even reacted. [00:03:08] I mean, before this, he talked about [00:03:11] something about 990s. [00:03:13] The whole finance thing is hard for me [00:03:15] to track, but he was talking about some [00:03:17] something in regards to 990s and them [00:03:19] being missing, and then Turning Point [00:03:21] actually produced them. So, that was [00:03:23] early on in his like, you know, YouTube [00:03:26] career. So, they've been watching it for [00:03:28] a while, I would think. [00:03:30] >> One of the smallest YouTube channels in [00:03:31] my market segment. Who do they think I [00:03:34] am? I'm a working accountant with a [00:03:36] small YouTube channel. I have no money. [00:03:39] I have no power. I have no influence. I [00:03:42] don't know how much money they think [00:03:43] they're going to get from suing me. All [00:03:45] I have is the truth. And I'm not going [00:03:48] to stop speaking the truth because Erica [00:03:50] Kirk doesn't like it. [00:03:52] The one good thing about a lawsuit is [00:03:55] that everything will be out in the open [00:03:57] and Turning Point will quickly find out [00:03:59] that I have nothing to hide. [00:04:01] It's pretty amazing. So, he's, you know, [00:04:04] he has the truth. He's standing 10 toes [00:04:07] down on it. Uh, I think that's pretty [00:04:09] amazing. Um, and something completely [00:04:11] separate. I just want to say I've always [00:04:12] loved Turning Point. I mean, [laughter] [00:04:14] you guys know, right? You you know me, [00:04:17] right? I love Mikey McCoy. Okay. [00:04:19] [clears throat] I think I've put like, [00:04:20] you know, maybe two or three engagement [00:04:22] proposals out to him. He hasn't [00:04:24] responded. That's fine. That's cool. Um, [00:04:26] I'll be waiting. And, you know, I've [00:04:28] always loved what they do. I think, uh, [00:04:31] you know, the whole alibi thing that [00:04:34] they did, right? I think getting Gary on [00:04:37] their side, I think that was just [00:04:39] masterful. I mean, Gary from Paramount [00:04:41] Tactical, that's the best, right? Best [00:04:44] of the best. Alex Tones. I mean, all the [00:04:46] guys that they I mean, I think they've [00:04:48] just been making solid decisions this [00:04:50] whole way through. I have to say, I [00:04:52] really like the direction they're going [00:04:54] in. I was actually telling my wife the [00:04:56] other day, you know, I was like, the [00:04:58] same way people head out to that wall in [00:05:01] Philadelphia, I'd like to do that with a [00:05:05] turning point. You know, maybe not one [00:05:08] of their walls, maybe just a tent at an [00:05:11] event. uh and you know just be in front [00:05:13] of it, maybe kiss it a couple times. You [00:05:15] know that that's that's that's how I [00:05:17] feel about Turning Point. And if anybody [00:05:21] says anything to the contrary, I will [00:05:23] sue you for defamation. [00:05:26] Okay, I'm putting it out there. Okay, [00:05:29] following suit with Turning Point. Any [00:05:32] anybody steps out of line, [laughter] [00:05:37] let's jump into the next one. In the [00:05:39] letter, they order me to please confirm [00:05:42] that you will publicly correct your [00:05:44] false statements immediately. This is [00:05:46] not what I was going to talk about this [00:05:47] week, but Turning Point is demanding [00:05:50] that I communicate their statements [00:05:51] publicly. So, here we go. They include a [00:05:56] whole list of statements they claim are [00:05:57] false that I have made in my videos [00:05:59] about Turning Point. Now, I'm not [00:06:02] interested in spreading false [00:06:04] information. So, I'm glad that Turning [00:06:05] Point reached out to me because if I [00:06:07] said something wrong, I am happy to [00:06:09] correct it. So, let us go through the [00:06:11] statements where they have a problem. [00:06:13] And you're going to want to hear this [00:06:14] because some of these are wild. On [00:06:17] November 16th, I posted a video called [00:06:19] Bombshell: Did Turning Point USA commit [00:06:21] fraud. They say these are false claims. [00:06:24] Charlie Kirk ordered a Doge style audit [00:06:26] that was never conducted. Here is my [00:06:28] first problem with this letter. They do [00:06:30] not include the actual quote that I said [00:06:33] in the video. This is a paraphrase [00:06:35] statement of what I said. And they are [00:06:37] saying that the paraphrase statement is [00:06:39] a lie. You have to tell me exactly what [00:06:43] I said that was supposedly a lie. And [00:06:45] they do this through the whole letter. [00:06:48] So my request to this lawyer in future [00:06:50] letters because I'm assuming there's [00:06:52] going to be more. Please include the [00:06:54] actual quote that I said so that I can [00:06:56] respond to your accusation. [00:06:59] But I'm going to at least try to [00:07:00] interpret what they are saying. I spoke [00:07:02] in my video about a memo that Charlie [00:07:04] Kirk wrote eight days before he was [00:07:06] murdered. In the cease and desist [00:07:08] letter, they say, "Indeed, Turning Point [00:07:11] USA's COO announcement concerning the [00:07:13] Doge effort never used the word audit." [00:07:16] So, this is breaking news. Turning [00:07:18] Point's attorney has now confirmed that [00:07:20] the Charlie Kirk memo is authentic. We [00:07:23] now have legal confirmation this did [00:07:25] happen. It seems like their problem with [00:07:27] my video is that I called it a Doge [00:07:29] audit when in the memo it is written as [00:07:32] Doge effort. So they want everyone to [00:07:35] use the word effort and not use the word [00:07:37] audit. I have no problem with that. I [00:07:40] think that's uh rather good. So from now [00:07:42] on, you know, you guys want to talk [00:07:43] about the detonator effort, if you want [00:07:46] to talk about [00:07:49] if you want to talk about the handoff [00:07:51] effort, if you want to talk about, you [00:07:53] know what I mean? These are efforts. [00:07:55] Okay, guys, get it straight. Get it [00:07:58] straight. All right, all you nerd [00:08:00] dwells, how dare you? How dare you? [00:08:04] Efforts. [00:08:06] Because that's that's all Turning [00:08:08] Point's been doing. They've been giving [00:08:10] an effort, right? They've just been [00:08:14] efforting this whole time. And what? [00:08:17] They didn't mess up on the alibis or [00:08:20] anything like that, okay? They were just [00:08:22] giving efforts. say it correctly, guys. [00:08:26] This is ridiculous. It's very we It's [00:08:28] very weird that they're doing this. And [00:08:30] just so you know, I know he's bringing [00:08:33] up the internal memo. A lot of you guys [00:08:35] maybe think like, "Oh, like what do you [00:08:36] mean it's of course it's real." Uh there [00:08:39] was a big debate online whether or not [00:08:41] it was even real because it does look [00:08:43] odd. It just says internal memo and it [00:08:47] looks weird, right? Candace discussed [00:08:49] it. I think she was the first to discuss [00:08:51] it. Um, and a lot of people right away [00:08:55] because it's Candace, they were like, [00:08:56] "This thing's fake. She just made it up, [00:08:58] etc., etc." So now they're actually [00:09:00] saying that it was real. [00:09:03] Interesting. Interesting. So there was [00:09:05] an effort, a Doge effort. Here's the [00:09:08] thing, though. Uh, when you say Doge, we [00:09:12] all know what's going on, right? Like [00:09:14] what did Doge do? You had you had Elon [00:09:17] on stage with like a a a chainsaw and [00:09:20] he's like, [00:09:21] >> [laughter] [00:09:25] >> Like what? [laughter] [00:09:27] We know what was going on. We saw we saw [00:09:31] Listen, when he did a Doge effort, there [00:09:34] was billions of dollars exposed that [00:09:38] were going to the most wild places. So [00:09:42] even the fact that the word Doge is used [00:09:45] implies way more to this effort than [00:09:49] anything, right? Uh yeah. So, let's keep [00:09:52] going here. Uh he's just really trying [00:09:54] to make his case here. [00:09:56] This letter is seriously hurting my [00:09:59] head. Whatever word you use, the memo is [00:10:02] clearly talking about an evaluation of [00:10:04] Turning Point. But we cannot use the [00:10:06] word audit. We have to call it an effort [00:10:09] or they are going to sue you. The letter [00:10:11] goes on to say, "The announcement makes [00:10:13] clear that Turning Point USA was doing [00:10:15] what it has always pledged to donors, [00:10:16] ensuring it was being efficient with its [00:10:18] funds and time and making changes to [00:10:20] foster greater efficiencies. Moreover, [00:10:22] Turning Point USA hires a third party [00:10:23] audit firm to conduct an audit every [00:10:25] year." This is all just their opinion. [00:10:28] This is how they are interpreting [00:10:30] Charlie Kirk's memo. They think that [00:10:32] Charlie Kirk wrote this memo and they [00:10:34] think it means that they do not have to [00:10:36] do anything. [00:10:38] How convenient. [00:10:40] They think that Charlie Kirk wrote a [00:10:42] memo just to tell people to keep doing [00:10:44] business as usual. Well, my opinion and [00:10:46] the opinion of many other people was [00:10:48] that Charlie Kirk's memo meant something [00:10:50] different. This is not a statement of [00:10:52] fact. It is an opinion. This is another [00:10:55] problem I have with this letter. Most of [00:10:57] the statements they mention are opinions [00:10:59] just like this one. If you are going to [00:11:02] accuse me of defamatory statements, they [00:11:04] need to be facts, not opinions. If I [00:11:07] have a fact wrong, let me know and I [00:11:09] will happily correct it. But I that's [00:11:12] the interesting thing, too. They um they [00:11:15] will reach out to Candace about things [00:11:18] and be like, "Hey, this is like with [00:11:20] Charlie the Charlie's tent being put [00:11:23] up." Um because Candace was like, "Who [00:11:25] did that? Why would they do that?" They [00:11:27] reached out to her and let her know like [00:11:29] that was a that was a joint effort. [00:11:33] Okay. and that they all kind of came [00:11:36] together and they were like this is a [00:11:38] thing to do. [00:11:40] It's terrible thing to do but that's my [00:11:43] opinion. [00:11:45] It's not a stated fact. I mean, [00:11:48] [laughter] [00:11:48] you look at it, you look at the tent. I [00:11:50] mean, it's, you know, but it's uh Yeah, [00:11:54] it's very interesting. Very, very [00:11:56] interesting that they will reach out to [00:11:57] Candace, not reach out to this guy, go [00:12:00] straight at him. But if you notice, [00:12:02] Candace really hasn't focused on the [00:12:04] finances. I think she has a little bit, [00:12:07] but not really. She's usually focused on [00:12:09] the characters um that are reoccurring [00:12:13] in certain places. That's what she [00:12:15] focuses on a lot. That's what I tend to [00:12:16] focus on a lot too. Um, [00:12:20] but yeah. Yeah, it's it's it's [00:12:21] interesting. And again, I think it's [00:12:23] because this guy's following the money. [00:12:24] I mean, they people always say, you [00:12:26] know, follow the money or following the [00:12:28] money is the is the not just the hardest [00:12:31] thing to do, but the kind of the most [00:12:32] dangerous thing to do. Here, let's keep [00:12:34] going. This money did move between the [00:12:37] organizations. I'm allowed to have my [00:12:39] opinion. On November 30th, I posted a [00:12:41] video called Explosive More Fraud at [00:12:44] Turning Point USA. They say these are [00:12:46] false claims. There was more fraud at [00:12:49] TurningPoint USA. I assume they are [00:12:51] referring to the title of the video [00:12:53] here. They of course are saying that [00:12:55] there is no fraud at Turning Point USA. [00:12:58] The content of the video is me going [00:12:59] over the evidence of fraud and sharing [00:13:01] my opinion. Now, technically a true [00:13:04] statement would be that no one has been [00:13:05] convicted of fraud at Turning Point USA, [00:13:08] but whether fraud is going on right now [00:13:10] is an opinion. This is what happens in [00:13:12] every criminal court case. Both sides [00:13:15] look at the facts. One side gives their [00:13:17] opinion that they are innocent. The [00:13:18] other side gives their opinion that they [00:13:20] are guilty. Turning Point is looking at [00:13:22] the financials and claiming that they [00:13:23] are innocent. I understand that. I'm [00:13:26] looking at the same financials and [00:13:27] thinking they look suspicious. I did not [00:13:30] even say in my video that they committed [00:13:32] fraud. I think I'm very fair and [00:13:35] balanced when I say, "Now, for legal [00:13:37] reasons, I have to say that I do not [00:13:38] have any evidence of a crime. We would [00:13:40] need an investigation of the books at [00:13:42] Turning Point to know for sure. What I [00:13:44] am saying is that there are red flags in [00:13:46] the financials at Turning Point and a [00:13:48] lot of questions that need to be [00:13:50] answered. That sounds to me to be pretty [00:13:53] fair and balanced and it's 100% fair and [00:13:56] balanced. And it's interesting that [00:13:57] that's the part they leave out because [00:13:59] if they include that part into what [00:14:01] they're talking about, everything falls [00:14:02] apart. You can't you shouldn't even be [00:14:04] sending the letter at this point because [00:14:06] that guy is saying that there's no crime [00:14:09] at all. So now you're like, "Oh, well, [00:14:11] there's that." Like it's it's this is [00:14:13] very interesting what's going on. And [00:14:15] you know what point that he makes near [00:14:16] the end because I'm about to jump into [00:14:19] what Candace has to say here. Um what he [00:14:22] says near the end is very interesting [00:14:24] because he says, "I've said a lot of [00:14:26] things." He's talking about Turning [00:14:29] Point and everything that he's been [00:14:30] covering. He's like, "I said a lot of [00:14:32] things." He's like, "And these are the [00:14:33] only things that they have come forward [00:14:36] saying are false." And then he says, [00:14:38] "That's very telling." So, if you're a [00:14:40] consumer of his content, think about, [00:14:42] you know, these these 12 things um that [00:14:46] have been said or or have been stated as [00:14:49] being false. And then think about all [00:14:51] the other things that they haven't even [00:14:52] touched on yet. And that's the thing, [00:14:54] maybe they haven't touched on it yet, or [00:14:56] maybe they're just going to let that [00:14:57] stand. It's very It's very very weird. [00:14:59] Just like Candace has said some things [00:15:01] and they're like and nobody's even like [00:15:03] refer like even mentioned it. [00:15:05] >> It's very weird. Very very weird. the [00:15:07] thing the it's it's always the things [00:15:09] that they they go towards, the things [00:15:12] that they freak out about. [00:15:15] I don't know. This is what Candace had [00:15:16] to say about the whole thing. She said, [00:15:18] "Uh, difficult difficult to put into [00:15:20] words how terrible of an idea it was for [00:15:22] Turning Point to send out this cease and [00:15:24] desist letter. I'm [snorts] at the point [00:15:27] where I think someone internally [00:15:28] absolutely detests Erica and permanently [00:15:31] feeds her bad ideas. It's it's the only [00:15:35] thing that makes sense at this point." [00:15:36] again. I offer my consulting services to [00:15:40] Turning Point for a monthly retainer. We [00:15:43] can end this corporate s show. [00:15:47] That's so funny. That is so funny. And [00:15:49] she wrote that in uh as a repost of what [00:15:52] Tucker Carlson's brother had to say. I [00:15:54] don't know if you know Buckley. Buckley [00:15:56] is on there. He said, "Wherein Turning [00:15:58] Point also confirms for the very first [00:16:01] time that yes, there were drones, but [00:16:03] only media drones. Oh, only for their [00:16:05] media effort." Well done, Buckley. Uh, [00:16:08] not for Charlie's security, because that [00:16:11] makes so much sense. Now, what he's [00:16:14] saying there, oh, and also very, uh, [00:16:16] very important, [00:16:19] uh, very worth watching Zach's video [00:16:21] below, um, and supporting his seemingly [00:16:24] fair, objective database efforts to [00:16:27] expose the truth. Now, [00:16:30] that has been brought up in the video [00:16:32] that apparently there were media drones [00:16:35] allowed and that's why Frank Turk said [00:16:37] they were looking at drone footage and [00:16:39] there weren't security drones uh, [00:16:41] allowed. [00:16:43] Okay. Okay. I don't know. Did no one [00:16:47] see, I think outside the box, right? Did [00:16:49] no one go [00:16:51] Hey, I'm gonna send my media drone up to [00:16:54] go check out the roofs because we have a [00:16:58] Turning Point segment where we check out [00:16:59] rooftops. Yeah, we just do that. It's [00:17:02] for media. It's going to go on TikTok. [00:17:04] Is that cool? It is. Okay. [00:17:08] Is that not allowed? Am I just I'm too [00:17:11] much of a renegade here? you don't think [00:17:13] to just, you know, think outside the box [00:17:14] a little bit. I don't know. The whole [00:17:17] thing seems very weird. Like Buckley [00:17:18] said, that makes so much sense. And [00:17:20] Candace is 100% right. It does seem like [00:17:23] something's going on here. Terrible idea [00:17:26] after terrible idea. Um, if it starts [00:17:29] happening to more people, it just it [00:17:30] makes it look worse and worse as it goes [00:17:33] on. It makes it look terrible. I don't [00:17:36] know, man. It's a very odd thing to do. [00:17:40] And I I hope they cuz here's the thing, [00:17:44] they could be testing that out to see [00:17:46] how people react and then go after [00:17:48] Candace. If they just start going after [00:17:50] everybody who's making Turning Point [00:17:52] videos, it's going to look ridiculous. [00:17:55] It really is. It's It's going to look [00:17:56] nuts. So, and and I don't just mean in [00:18:00] public opinion to the courts. The courts [00:18:02] are going to be like, "What's going on [00:18:04] here? This is the ninth person. This is [00:18:07] this person is Dee got a podcast. What [00:18:11] are you doing? [00:18:13] They're going to be like, "Well, Dee Dee [00:18:15] should know you're not allowed to do [00:18:17] things like this." [00:18:19] Dee leaves. Baron walks in. [00:18:23] Baron should know. Okay. Statements are [00:18:26] false. [00:18:28] Baron leaves. Jesse walks in. [snorts] [00:18:31] Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. [00:18:33] Anyway, let's uh keep going. He has like [00:18:35] a couple more here. Let me play this [00:18:37] one. I'm allowed to have my opinion. On [00:18:40] November 30th, I posted a video called [00:18:42] Explosive, more fraud at TurningPoint [00:18:44] USA. They say these are false claims. [00:18:47] There was more fraud at TurningPoint [00:18:49] USA. I assume they are referring to the [00:18:52] title of the video here. They of course [00:18:54] are saying that there is no fraud at [00:18:56] TurningPoint USA. The content of the [00:18:58] video is me going over the evidence of [00:19:00] fraud and sharing my opinion. Now, [00:19:02] technically a true statement would be [00:19:03] that no one has been convicted of fraud [00:19:05] at Turning Point USA. But whether fraud [00:19:07] is going on right now is an opinion. [00:19:10] This is what happens in every criminal [00:19:12] court case. Both sides look at the [00:19:14] facts. One side gives their opinion that [00:19:16] they are in uh I already played this [00:19:18] part for you guys. I just wanted to go [00:19:20] over cuz he changes the title of one of [00:19:22] his videos and I just thought it was so [00:19:24] funny. Oh, I can't find it. there. He He [00:19:28] literally talks about this title that [00:19:29] he's referring to and he just he changed [00:19:32] it. It's the same title. He just put [00:19:34] allegedly in brackets and that made me [00:19:37] laugh so much. So much. I loved it. He's [00:19:42] like allegedly. Okay. And and I I bring [00:19:45] that up because I have to hire somebody [00:19:47] to go on onto all my videos and say [00:19:49] allegedly. Actually, you know what? I [00:19:52] have a disclaimer in my description. [00:19:55] Uhoh. Oh, [00:19:58] your boy grew up around [00:19:59] Philadelphiaians, my people. Okay. Your [00:20:02] boy grew up around some pretty smart [00:20:04] Philadelphia types [00:20:07] and they told me what to do on the back [00:20:09] end. You know what I mean? Anyway, [00:20:13] [laughter] [00:20:13] it's true. Uh, Crown Heights, you know, [00:20:16] Crown Heights is it's just black and [00:20:18] it's Philadelphiaian. That's that's what [00:20:21] it is, you know. [00:20:23] and and and we intermingle from time to [00:20:25] time, you know, they figure out they [00:20:29] come to us to learn how to roll blunts, [00:20:33] we come to them to figure out our taxes. [00:20:36] It's a real nice little, you know, uh [00:20:39] [laughter] [00:20:42] anyway, let's go to the next clip here. [00:20:45] Um I think this is him just signing off [00:20:47] on this whole thing. I wanted to play [00:20:48] this part. I think I I might go right to [00:20:51] the end cuz I want you guys to see how [00:20:52] you can help him. [00:20:53] >> I'm not allowed to ask questions. [00:20:55] >> Does turning point. [00:20:56] >> Of course I have it on this speed. [00:20:58] Ridiculous. I always have it on like two [00:21:00] 2.5. Apologies. Let's go. Let's go back [00:21:03] to normal speed. See the irony in this? [00:21:07] Charlie Kirk died under a tent with the [00:21:10] slogan, prove me wrong. His whole [00:21:14] college campus tour was about asking [00:21:16] questions. [00:21:18] And now Turning Point is sending out [00:21:20] legal letters to small YouTube channels [00:21:22] accusing them of defamation for asking [00:21:26] questions. [00:21:27] I was asking the question why their COO [00:21:30] was an independent contractor. I think [00:21:32] that is unusual. That is my opinion. [00:21:36] Turning Point is now stating their [00:21:37] official position. America's Turning [00:21:39] Point lists its COO as an independent [00:21:42] contractor because his substantive role [00:21:44] for America's Turning Point is more in [00:21:46] line with the contractor classification. [00:21:48] So this is new information. Now we know [00:21:51] TurningPoint is intentionally doing [00:21:53] this. This is not a mistake. They are [00:21:56] intentionally classifying their COO as [00:21:59] an independent contractor, which means [00:22:02] they are not withdrawing payroll taxes [00:22:04] to send to the IRS. [00:22:06] Now, if I were their CFO, I would not do [00:22:09] this. [00:22:10] [laughter] [00:22:12] This guy is unintentionally funny [00:22:13] sometimes. Look at this. I would not do [00:22:16] this. [laughter] [00:22:19] But, um, man, it is uh I think it's sad [00:22:22] and ridiculous that this is happening to [00:22:24] him. Um, I hope he's okay right now [00:22:28] because mental state when you're going [00:22:30] through stuff like that, especially I [00:22:33] don't know if this guy's a father or a [00:22:34] husband or what, but you know, just as a [00:22:37] person, it could be hard going through [00:22:39] some stuff like that. And um, yeah, I [00:22:42] just I as soon as I saw this, I sent it [00:22:44] to Baron, I sent it to Ian, I sent it to [00:22:47] Jesse, I sent it to a bunch of people. I [00:22:50] hope they all make content on it. I know [00:22:51] Ian is right now. He's currently live. [00:22:54] he was talking about it. Um, I I hope [00:22:56] everybody touches on this because, you [00:22:59] know, you got to raise awareness about [00:23:01] this type of thing. I think in a few [00:23:03] hours we are going to see Candace go [00:23:05] live and uh I think she's going to talk [00:23:08] about this. I mean, it it wouldn't make [00:23:10] sense if she didn't, right? Um, and you [00:23:13] know, this interrupted my scheduling [00:23:16] because I was supposed to talk about my [00:23:18] back and forth with Bix Tones. That's [00:23:21] right. Yeah, it's getting weird. It's [00:23:24] getting real weird. Anyway, let's end it [00:23:26] off. Why turning point is attacking me [00:23:28] like this. I don't have a lot of money. [00:23:31] Lawyers are expensive and I'm going to [00:23:33] need a good one. So, I'm going to ask [00:23:36] for help. If you like my videos, [00:23:38] consider signing up for a membership. [00:23:40] That is money that I would use if this [00:23:42] turns into a lawsuit. If you want to [00:23:44] provide additional support, you can also [00:23:46] donate directly from the homepage of my [00:23:48] website on wolvesandfinance.com. [00:23:50] I really appreciate all my members and [00:23:52] I'm so thankful for your support, [00:23:54] especially in times like these. I'm Zach [00:23:56] from Wolves and Finance. Thank you for [00:23:58] watching. [00:24:00] So, that's it. That's it. That's what's [00:24:02] going on with him. And honestly, I sent [00:24:05] it to Ian. He's like, I can't wait to [00:24:07] hear your your analysts of this. And I [00:24:08] was like, me? I'm like, I don't I don't [00:24:11] analyze things. I'm going to bring up [00:24:13] some mint jokes. I'm going to make I'm [00:24:14] going to make some jokes. But um [00:24:17] honestly, at the end of the day, when I [00:24:19] see this, it shows that Turning Point [00:24:22] died with Charlie. And that's very sad [00:24:26] because I've said this before, everybody [00:24:28] wanted Turning Point to [00:24:31] become more like Charlie. Charlie said [00:24:34] in an interview once that what he wanted [00:24:37] to be remembered for is that he lived [00:24:40] out his faith courageously. And I think [00:24:43] everybody was hoping that Turning Point [00:24:45] would would do that and be courageous, [00:24:49] not just about faith, but just about [00:24:52] Charlie and what he what he stood for. [00:24:56] And instead, it seems like it just [00:24:58] turned into politics. And Charlie was [00:25:01] heavy politics, of course, but he was [00:25:04] also a lot of other things. You know, if [00:25:07] you watch his show, there were moments [00:25:08] where he would there was a lot of [00:25:10] segments where he would be just like [00:25:11] Candace and people would be like, "Whoa, [00:25:13] this guy's talking some stuff here, [00:25:15] right? He really would really would talk [00:25:17] that stuff a lot of times." [00:25:20] And he was about faith and again, he was [00:25:23] about politics, but but it seems like [00:25:26] what it's just turned into is this [00:25:28] political machine and he was the soul of [00:25:32] it. And now it seems like it's operating [00:25:34] soullessly. And it sucks to see because [00:25:38] it was what he built and [00:25:42] and now it just seems like it's it's [00:25:44] doing something else, right? I mean, [00:25:47] before it was this massive movement and [00:25:49] it still is, but now it feels more it [00:25:54] feels more like Congress than it feels [00:25:56] like a grass uh roots movement. And it [00:26:01] seems like we're going to see a lot of [00:26:03] pushing of the official narratives in [00:26:05] regards to everything from Turning [00:26:08] Point, whereas Charlie was very much [00:26:10] into alternate theories on things and he [00:26:13] would push back where push back was [00:26:15] needed and uh it's sad to see. So [00:26:19] anyways guys, just wanted to make that [00:26:21] video. Wolves in Finance, hope you're [00:26:23] doing good. Let me know if you need [00:26:25] anything. Message me and uh I'm out of [00:26:28] here. We'll see Candace soon.
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[00:00:02] There it is. [00:00:05] Let's get into it. Happy Monday, [00:00:07] everybody. I can't wait to hear Candace [00:00:10] weigh in on this. She already has, and [00:00:12] I'm going to be showing you that. A lot [00:00:14] of you don't have X, so you don't know [00:00:16] that Candace Owens has weighed in on [00:00:18] what happened with Wolves in Finance. [00:00:20] Recently, he received a cease and desist [00:00:23] letter from Turning Point for various [00:00:25] things that he said in his videos when [00:00:28] he was following the money of everything [00:00:31] and looking into their financials and [00:00:33] tax and even showing up to a building to [00:00:36] see if the actual business existed. [00:00:39] So, I was like, "Okay, I I want to check [00:00:42] this out. It's very interesting. Uh what [00:00:45] Candace has to say is very true. I'll be [00:00:47] showing you that in a second. But for [00:00:49] those of you that don't know about [00:00:50] what's going on, I want to give you a [00:00:51] rundown. I have like four or five clips [00:00:54] of Wolves and Finance talking about this [00:00:56] whole thing and he's setting the record [00:00:58] straight in certain places and in other [00:01:00] places he is standing 10 toes down on [00:01:05] his opinion because he says he should [00:01:07] not have to change his opinion. He is [00:01:09] allowed to have his opinion. I myself [00:01:12] think this is a terrible move by Turning [00:01:14] Point. Uh, I don't understand why [00:01:17] they're doing this type of thing. Uh, it [00:01:19] looks ridiculous and it's one of the [00:01:22] many things that I've talked about that [00:01:23] Turning Point does and you're like, what [00:01:25] is going on? Like, who is the person [00:01:28] who's okaying all of this? It just [00:01:30] doesn't make sense in my opinion. [00:01:32] Anyway, let's jump into more important [00:01:34] things. Of course, whoever did this, [00:01:37] shout out to you. You have blessed me [00:01:39] with quite the body. Okay, thank you so [00:01:42] much for this. And you guys don't even [00:01:44] know this looks exactly like my brother. [00:01:46] I have a brother. He looks exa from the [00:01:48] body to the face to the hat even. Looks [00:01:51] just like my brother. Shout out to you. [00:01:53] Thank you so much. Keep those mint memes [00:01:56] coming. But let's jump into Wolves and [00:01:58] Finance. Hear what he has to say. Point [00:01:59] states in the letter, "Turning point [00:02:00] entities are not looking for litigation. [00:02:02] Rather, their interest is in the truth [00:02:04] and making sure the public record is [00:02:05] accurate." So they are claiming they do [00:02:08] not want to sue me. But I view this [00:02:10] letter as a threat to sue. and I think [00:02:12] any reasonable business person would do [00:02:14] the same. A cease and desist letter is [00:02:16] the first step towards a defamation [00:02:18] lawsuit. I interpret this letter as [00:02:21] Turning Point telling me to shut my [00:02:23] mouth or they're going to sue me. I do [00:02:26] not understand what Erica Kirk is doing. [00:02:29] Out of the hundreds of people posting on [00:02:31] social media about Turning Point, why [00:02:33] are they targeting me? Why are they so [00:02:36] worried about what I am saying that [00:02:37] they're sending me legal letters? I am [00:02:40] he's the one he's the one following the [00:02:42] money. I haven't seen many people follow [00:02:44] the money uh so closely like he has and [00:02:48] he has a background in it and he can [00:02:50] point things out. So I think that has to [00:02:54] be the reason why you know he also lives [00:02:56] in Arizona. I don't know if that's any [00:02:58] connection, but you know, again, he's [00:03:01] he's been doing good work in regards to [00:03:04] looking into what they have going on. [00:03:06] And it seems like they've even reacted. [00:03:08] I mean, before this, he talked about [00:03:11] something about 990s. [00:03:13] The whole finance thing is hard for me [00:03:15] to track, but he was talking about some [00:03:17] something in regards to 990s and them [00:03:19] being missing, and then Turning Point [00:03:21] actually produced them. So, that was [00:03:23] early on in his like, you know, YouTube [00:03:26] career. So, they've been watching it for [00:03:28] a while, I would think. [00:03:30] >> One of the smallest YouTube channels in [00:03:31] my market segment. Who do they think I [00:03:34] am? I'm a working accountant with a [00:03:36] small YouTube channel. I have no money. [00:03:39] I have no power. I have no influence. I [00:03:42] don't know how much money they think [00:03:43] they're going to get from suing me. All [00:03:45] I have is the truth. And I'm not going [00:03:48] to stop speaking the truth because Erica [00:03:50] Kirk doesn't like it. [00:03:52] The one good thing about a lawsuit is [00:03:55] that everything will be out in the open [00:03:57] and Turning Point will quickly find out [00:03:59] that I have nothing to hide. [00:04:01] It's pretty amazing. So, he's, you know, [00:04:04] he has the truth. He's standing 10 toes [00:04:07] down on it. Uh, I think that's pretty [00:04:09] amazing. Um, and something completely [00:04:11] separate. I just want to say I've always [00:04:12] loved Turning Point. I mean, [laughter] [00:04:14] you guys know, right? You you know me, [00:04:17] right? I love Mikey McCoy. Okay. [00:04:19] [clears throat] I think I've put like, [00:04:20] you know, maybe two or three engagement [00:04:22] proposals out to him. He hasn't [00:04:24] responded. That's fine. That's cool. Um, [00:04:26] I'll be waiting. And, you know, I've [00:04:28] always loved what they do. I think, uh, [00:04:31] you know, the whole alibi thing that [00:04:34] they did, right? I think getting Gary on [00:04:37] their side, I think that was just [00:04:39] masterful. I mean, Gary from Paramount [00:04:41] Tactical, that's the best, right? Best [00:04:44] of the best. Alex Tones. I mean, all the [00:04:46] guys that they I mean, I think they've [00:04:48] just been making solid decisions this [00:04:50] whole way through. I have to say, I [00:04:52] really like the direction they're going [00:04:54] in. I was actually telling my wife the [00:04:56] other day, you know, I was like, the [00:04:58] same way people head out to that wall in [00:05:01] Philadelphia, I'd like to do that with a [00:05:05] turning point. You know, maybe not one [00:05:08] of their walls, maybe just a tent at an [00:05:11] event. uh and you know just be in front [00:05:13] of it, maybe kiss it a couple times. You [00:05:15] know that that's that's that's how I [00:05:17] feel about Turning Point. And if anybody [00:05:21] says anything to the contrary, I will [00:05:23] sue you for defamation. [00:05:26] Okay, I'm putting it out there. Okay, [00:05:29] following suit with Turning Point. Any [00:05:32] anybody steps out of line, [laughter] [00:05:37] let's jump into the next one. In the [00:05:39] letter, they order me to please confirm [00:05:42] that you will publicly correct your [00:05:44] false statements immediately. This is [00:05:46] not what I was going to talk about this [00:05:47] week, but Turning Point is demanding [00:05:50] that I communicate their statements [00:05:51] publicly. So, here we go. They include a [00:05:56] whole list of statements they claim are [00:05:57] false that I have made in my videos [00:05:59] about Turning Point. Now, I'm not [00:06:02] interested in spreading false [00:06:04] information. So, I'm glad that Turning [00:06:05] Point reached out to me because if I [00:06:07] said something wrong, I am happy to [00:06:09] correct it. So, let us go through the [00:06:11] statements where they have a problem. [00:06:13] And you're going to want to hear this [00:06:14] because some of these are wild. On [00:06:17] November 16th, I posted a video called [00:06:19] Bombshell: Did Turning Point USA commit [00:06:21] fraud. They say these are false claims. [00:06:24] Charlie Kirk ordered a Doge style audit [00:06:26] that was never conducted. Here is my [00:06:28] first problem with this letter. They do [00:06:30] not include the actual quote that I said [00:06:33] in the video. This is a paraphrase [00:06:35] statement of what I said. And they are [00:06:37] saying that the paraphrase statement is [00:06:39] a lie. You have to tell me exactly what [00:06:43] I said that was supposedly a lie. And [00:06:45] they do this through the whole letter. [00:06:48] So my request to this lawyer in future [00:06:50] letters because I'm assuming there's [00:06:52] going to be more. Please include the [00:06:54] actual quote that I said so that I can [00:06:56] respond to your accusation. [00:06:59] But I'm going to at least try to [00:07:00] interpret what they are saying. I spoke [00:07:02] in my video about a memo that Charlie [00:07:04] Kirk wrote eight days before he was [00:07:06] murdered. In the cease and desist [00:07:08] letter, they say, "Indeed, Turning Point [00:07:11] USA's COO announcement concerning the [00:07:13] Doge effort never used the word audit." [00:07:16] So, this is breaking news. Turning [00:07:18] Point's attorney has now confirmed that [00:07:20] the Charlie Kirk memo is authentic. We [00:07:23] now have legal confirmation this did [00:07:25] happen. It seems like their problem with [00:07:27] my video is that I called it a Doge [00:07:29] audit when in the memo it is written as [00:07:32] Doge effort. So they want everyone to [00:07:35] use the word effort and not use the word [00:07:37] audit. I have no problem with that. I [00:07:40] think that's uh rather good. So from now [00:07:42] on, you know, you guys want to talk [00:07:43] about the detonator effort, if you want [00:07:46] to talk about [00:07:49] if you want to talk about the handoff [00:07:51] effort, if you want to talk about, you [00:07:53] know what I mean? These are efforts. [00:07:55] Okay, guys, get it straight. Get it [00:07:58] straight. All right, all you nerd [00:08:00] dwells, how dare you? How dare you? [00:08:04] Efforts. [00:08:06] Because that's that's all Turning [00:08:08] Point's been doing. They've been giving [00:08:10] an effort, right? They've just been [00:08:14] efforting this whole time. And what? [00:08:17] They didn't mess up on the alibis or [00:08:20] anything like that, okay? They were just [00:08:22] giving efforts. say it correctly, guys. [00:08:26] This is ridiculous. It's very we It's [00:08:28] very weird that they're doing this. And [00:08:30] just so you know, I know he's bringing [00:08:33] up the internal memo. A lot of you guys [00:08:35] maybe think like, "Oh, like what do you [00:08:36] mean it's of course it's real." Uh there [00:08:39] was a big debate online whether or not [00:08:41] it was even real because it does look [00:08:43] odd. It just says internal memo and it [00:08:47] looks weird, right? Candace discussed [00:08:49] it. I think she was the first to discuss [00:08:51] it. Um, and a lot of people right away [00:08:55] because it's Candace, they were like, [00:08:56] "This thing's fake. She just made it up, [00:08:58] etc., etc." So now they're actually [00:09:00] saying that it was real. [00:09:03] Interesting. Interesting. So there was [00:09:05] an effort, a Doge effort. Here's the [00:09:08] thing, though. Uh, when you say Doge, we [00:09:12] all know what's going on, right? Like [00:09:14] what did Doge do? You had you had Elon [00:09:17] on stage with like a a a chainsaw and [00:09:20] he's like, [00:09:21] >> [laughter] [00:09:25] >> Like what? [laughter] [00:09:27] We know what was going on. We saw we saw [00:09:31] Listen, when he did a Doge effort, there [00:09:34] was billions of dollars exposed that [00:09:38] were going to the most wild places. So [00:09:42] even the fact that the word Doge is used [00:09:45] implies way more to this effort than [00:09:49] anything, right? Uh yeah. So, let's keep [00:09:52] going here. Uh he's just really trying [00:09:54] to make his case here. [00:09:56] This letter is seriously hurting my [00:09:59] head. Whatever word you use, the memo is [00:10:02] clearly talking about an evaluation of [00:10:04] Turning Point. But we cannot use the [00:10:06] word audit. We have to call it an effort [00:10:09] or they are going to sue you. The letter [00:10:11] goes on to say, "The announcement makes [00:10:13] clear that Turning Point USA was doing [00:10:15] what it has always pledged to donors, [00:10:16] ensuring it was being efficient with its [00:10:18] funds and time and making changes to [00:10:20] foster greater efficiencies. Moreover, [00:10:22] Turning Point USA hires a third party [00:10:23] audit firm to conduct an audit every [00:10:25] year." This is all just their opinion. [00:10:28] This is how they are interpreting [00:10:30] Charlie Kirk's memo. They think that [00:10:32] Charlie Kirk wrote this memo and they [00:10:34] think it means that they do not have to [00:10:36] do anything. [00:10:38] How convenient. [00:10:40] They think that Charlie Kirk wrote a [00:10:42] memo just to tell people to keep doing [00:10:44] business as usual. Well, my opinion and [00:10:46] the opinion of many other people was [00:10:48] that Charlie Kirk's memo meant something [00:10:50] different. This is not a statement of [00:10:52] fact. It is an opinion. This is another [00:10:55] problem I have with this letter. Most of [00:10:57] the statements they mention are opinions [00:10:59] just like this one. If you are going to [00:11:02] accuse me of defamatory statements, they [00:11:04] need to be facts, not opinions. If I [00:11:07] have a fact wrong, let me know and I [00:11:09] will happily correct it. But I that's [00:11:12] the interesting thing, too. They um they [00:11:15] will reach out to Candace about things [00:11:18] and be like, "Hey, this is like with [00:11:20] Charlie the Charlie's tent being put [00:11:23] up." Um because Candace was like, "Who [00:11:25] did that? Why would they do that?" They [00:11:27] reached out to her and let her know like [00:11:29] that was a that was a joint effort. [00:11:33] Okay. and that they all kind of came [00:11:36] together and they were like this is a [00:11:38] thing to do. [00:11:40] It's terrible thing to do but that's my [00:11:43] opinion. [00:11:45] It's not a stated fact. I mean, [00:11:48] [laughter] [00:11:48] you look at it, you look at the tent. I [00:11:50] mean, it's, you know, but it's uh Yeah, [00:11:54] it's very interesting. Very, very [00:11:56] interesting that they will reach out to [00:11:57] Candace, not reach out to this guy, go [00:12:00] straight at him. But if you notice, [00:12:02] Candace really hasn't focused on the [00:12:04] finances. I think she has a little bit, [00:12:07] but not really. She's usually focused on [00:12:09] the characters um that are reoccurring [00:12:13] in certain places. That's what she [00:12:15] focuses on a lot. That's what I tend to [00:12:16] focus on a lot too. Um, [00:12:20] but yeah. Yeah, it's it's it's [00:12:21] interesting. And again, I think it's [00:12:23] because this guy's following the money. [00:12:24] I mean, they people always say, you [00:12:26] know, follow the money or following the [00:12:28] money is the is the not just the hardest [00:12:31] thing to do, but the kind of the most [00:12:32] dangerous thing to do. Here, let's keep [00:12:34] going. This money did move between the [00:12:37] organizations. I'm allowed to have my [00:12:39] opinion. On November 30th, I posted a [00:12:41] video called Explosive More Fraud at [00:12:44] Turning Point USA. They say these are [00:12:46] false claims. There was more fraud at [00:12:49] TurningPoint USA. I assume they are [00:12:51] referring to the title of the video [00:12:53] here. They of course are saying that [00:12:55] there is no fraud at Turning Point USA. [00:12:58] The content of the video is me going [00:12:59] over the evidence of fraud and sharing [00:13:01] my opinion. Now, technically a true [00:13:04] statement would be that no one has been [00:13:05] convicted of fraud at Turning Point USA, [00:13:08] but whether fraud is going on right now [00:13:10] is an opinion. This is what happens in [00:13:12] every criminal court case. Both sides [00:13:15] look at the facts. One side gives their [00:13:17] opinion that they are innocent. The [00:13:18] other side gives their opinion that they [00:13:20] are guilty. Turning Point is looking at [00:13:22] the financials and claiming that they [00:13:23] are innocent. I understand that. I'm [00:13:26] looking at the same financials and [00:13:27] thinking they look suspicious. I did not [00:13:30] even say in my video that they committed [00:13:32] fraud. I think I'm very fair and [00:13:35] balanced when I say, "Now, for legal [00:13:37] reasons, I have to say that I do not [00:13:38] have any evidence of a crime. We would [00:13:40] need an investigation of the books at [00:13:42] Turning Point to know for sure. What I [00:13:44] am saying is that there are red flags in [00:13:46] the financials at Turning Point and a [00:13:48] lot of questions that need to be [00:13:50] answered. That sounds to me to be pretty [00:13:53] fair and balanced and it's 100% fair and [00:13:56] balanced. And it's interesting that [00:13:57] that's the part they leave out because [00:13:59] if they include that part into what [00:14:01] they're talking about, everything falls [00:14:02] apart. You can't you shouldn't even be [00:14:04] sending the letter at this point because [00:14:06] that guy is saying that there's no crime [00:14:09] at all. So now you're like, "Oh, well, [00:14:11] there's that." Like it's it's this is [00:14:13] very interesting what's going on. And [00:14:15] you know what point that he makes near [00:14:16] the end because I'm about to jump into [00:14:19] what Candace has to say here. Um what he [00:14:22] says near the end is very interesting [00:14:24] because he says, "I've said a lot of [00:14:26] things." He's talking about Turning [00:14:29] Point and everything that he's been [00:14:30] covering. He's like, "I said a lot of [00:14:32] things." He's like, "And these are the [00:14:33] only things that they have come forward [00:14:36] saying are false." And then he says, [00:14:38] "That's very telling." So, if you're a [00:14:40] consumer of his content, think about, [00:14:42] you know, these these 12 things um that [00:14:46] have been said or or have been stated as [00:14:49] being false. And then think about all [00:14:51] the other things that they haven't even [00:14:52] touched on yet. And that's the thing, [00:14:54] maybe they haven't touched on it yet, or [00:14:56] maybe they're just going to let that [00:14:57] stand. It's very It's very very weird. [00:14:59] Just like Candace has said some things [00:15:01] and they're like and nobody's even like [00:15:03] refer like even mentioned it. [00:15:05] >> It's very weird. Very very weird. the [00:15:07] thing the it's it's always the things [00:15:09] that they they go towards, the things [00:15:12] that they freak out about. [00:15:15] I don't know. This is what Candace had [00:15:16] to say about the whole thing. She said, [00:15:18] "Uh, difficult difficult to put into [00:15:20] words how terrible of an idea it was for [00:15:22] Turning Point to send out this cease and [00:15:24] desist letter. I'm [snorts] at the point [00:15:27] where I think someone internally [00:15:28] absolutely detests Erica and permanently [00:15:31] feeds her bad ideas. It's it's the only [00:15:35] thing that makes sense at this point." [00:15:36] again. I offer my consulting services to [00:15:40] Turning Point for a monthly retainer. We [00:15:43] can end this corporate s show. [00:15:47] That's so funny. That is so funny. And [00:15:49] she wrote that in uh as a repost of what [00:15:52] Tucker Carlson's brother had to say. I [00:15:54] don't know if you know Buckley. Buckley [00:15:56] is on there. He said, "Wherein Turning [00:15:58] Point also confirms for the very first [00:16:01] time that yes, there were drones, but [00:16:03] only media drones. Oh, only for their [00:16:05] media effort." Well done, Buckley. Uh, [00:16:08] not for Charlie's security, because that [00:16:11] makes so much sense. Now, what he's [00:16:14] saying there, oh, and also very, uh, [00:16:16] very important, [00:16:19] uh, very worth watching Zach's video [00:16:21] below, um, and supporting his seemingly [00:16:24] fair, objective database efforts to [00:16:27] expose the truth. Now, [00:16:30] that has been brought up in the video [00:16:32] that apparently there were media drones [00:16:35] allowed and that's why Frank Turk said [00:16:37] they were looking at drone footage and [00:16:39] there weren't security drones uh, [00:16:41] allowed. [00:16:43] Okay. Okay. I don't know. Did no one [00:16:47] see, I think outside the box, right? Did [00:16:49] no one go [00:16:51] Hey, I'm gonna send my media drone up to [00:16:54] go check out the roofs because we have a [00:16:58] Turning Point segment where we check out [00:16:59] rooftops. Yeah, we just do that. It's [00:17:02] for media. It's going to go on TikTok. [00:17:04] Is that cool? It is. Okay. [00:17:08] Is that not allowed? Am I just I'm too [00:17:11] much of a renegade here? you don't think [00:17:13] to just, you know, think outside the box [00:17:14] a little bit. I don't know. The whole [00:17:17] thing seems very weird. Like Buckley [00:17:18] said, that makes so much sense. And [00:17:20] Candace is 100% right. It does seem like [00:17:23] something's going on here. Terrible idea [00:17:26] after terrible idea. Um, if it starts [00:17:29] happening to more people, it just it [00:17:30] makes it look worse and worse as it goes [00:17:33] on. It makes it look terrible. I don't [00:17:36] know, man. It's a very odd thing to do. [00:17:40] And I I hope they cuz here's the thing, [00:17:44] they could be testing that out to see [00:17:46] how people react and then go after [00:17:48] Candace. If they just start going after [00:17:50] everybody who's making Turning Point [00:17:52] videos, it's going to look ridiculous. [00:17:55] It really is. It's It's going to look [00:17:56] nuts. So, and and I don't just mean in [00:18:00] public opinion to the courts. The courts [00:18:02] are going to be like, "What's going on [00:18:04] here? This is the ninth person. This is [00:18:07] this person is Dee got a podcast. What [00:18:11] are you doing? [00:18:13] They're going to be like, "Well, Dee Dee [00:18:15] should know you're not allowed to do [00:18:17] things like this." [00:18:19] Dee leaves. Baron walks in. [00:18:23] Baron should know. Okay. Statements are [00:18:26] false. [00:18:28] Baron leaves. Jesse walks in. [snorts] [00:18:31] Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. [00:18:33] Anyway, let's uh keep going. He has like [00:18:35] a couple more here. Let me play this [00:18:37] one. I'm allowed to have my opinion. On [00:18:40] November 30th, I posted a video called [00:18:42] Explosive, more fraud at TurningPoint [00:18:44] USA. They say these are false claims. [00:18:47] There was more fraud at TurningPoint [00:18:49] USA. I assume they are referring to the [00:18:52] title of the video here. They of course [00:18:54] are saying that there is no fraud at [00:18:56] TurningPoint USA. The content of the [00:18:58] video is me going over the evidence of [00:19:00] fraud and sharing my opinion. Now, [00:19:02] technically a true statement would be [00:19:03] that no one has been convicted of fraud [00:19:05] at Turning Point USA. But whether fraud [00:19:07] is going on right now is an opinion. [00:19:10] This is what happens in every criminal [00:19:12] court case. Both sides look at the [00:19:14] facts. One side gives their opinion that [00:19:16] they are in uh I already played this [00:19:18] part for you guys. I just wanted to go [00:19:20] over cuz he changes the title of one of [00:19:22] his videos and I just thought it was so [00:19:24] funny. Oh, I can't find it. there. He He [00:19:28] literally talks about this title that [00:19:29] he's referring to and he just he changed [00:19:32] it. It's the same title. He just put [00:19:34] allegedly in brackets and that made me [00:19:37] laugh so much. So much. I loved it. He's [00:19:42] like allegedly. Okay. And and I I bring [00:19:45] that up because I have to hire somebody [00:19:47] to go on onto all my videos and say [00:19:49] allegedly. Actually, you know what? I [00:19:52] have a disclaimer in my description. [00:19:55] Uhoh. Oh, [00:19:58] your boy grew up around [00:19:59] Philadelphiaians, my people. Okay. Your [00:20:02] boy grew up around some pretty smart [00:20:04] Philadelphia types [00:20:07] and they told me what to do on the back [00:20:09] end. You know what I mean? Anyway, [00:20:13] [laughter] [00:20:13] it's true. Uh, Crown Heights, you know, [00:20:16] Crown Heights is it's just black and [00:20:18] it's Philadelphiaian. That's that's what [00:20:21] it is, you know. [00:20:23] and and and we intermingle from time to [00:20:25] time, you know, they figure out they [00:20:29] come to us to learn how to roll blunts, [00:20:33] we come to them to figure out our taxes. [00:20:36] It's a real nice little, you know, uh [00:20:39] [laughter] [00:20:42] anyway, let's go to the next clip here. [00:20:45] Um I think this is him just signing off [00:20:47] on this whole thing. I wanted to play [00:20:48] this part. I think I I might go right to [00:20:51] the end cuz I want you guys to see how [00:20:52] you can help him. [00:20:53] >> I'm not allowed to ask questions. [00:20:55] >> Does turning point. [00:20:56] >> Of course I have it on this speed. [00:20:58] Ridiculous. I always have it on like two [00:21:00] 2.5. Apologies. Let's go. Let's go back [00:21:03] to normal speed. See the irony in this? [00:21:07] Charlie Kirk died under a tent with the [00:21:10] slogan, prove me wrong. His whole [00:21:14] college campus tour was about asking [00:21:16] questions. [00:21:18] And now Turning Point is sending out [00:21:20] legal letters to small YouTube channels [00:21:22] accusing them of defamation for asking [00:21:26] questions. [00:21:27] I was asking the question why their COO [00:21:30] was an independent contractor. I think [00:21:32] that is unusual. That is my opinion. [00:21:36] Turning Point is now stating their [00:21:37] official position. America's Turning [00:21:39] Point lists its COO as an independent [00:21:42] contractor because his substantive role [00:21:44] for America's Turning Point is more in [00:21:46] line with the contractor classification. [00:21:48] So this is new information. Now we know [00:21:51] TurningPoint is intentionally doing [00:21:53] this. This is not a mistake. They are [00:21:56] intentionally classifying their COO as [00:21:59] an independent contractor, which means [00:22:02] they are not withdrawing payroll taxes [00:22:04] to send to the IRS. [00:22:06] Now, if I were their CFO, I would not do [00:22:09] this. [00:22:10] [laughter] [00:22:12] This guy is unintentionally funny [00:22:13] sometimes. Look at this. I would not do [00:22:16] this. [laughter] [00:22:19] But, um, man, it is uh I think it's sad [00:22:22] and ridiculous that this is happening to [00:22:24] him. Um, I hope he's okay right now [00:22:28] because mental state when you're going [00:22:30] through stuff like that, especially I [00:22:33] don't know if this guy's a father or a [00:22:34] husband or what, but you know, just as a [00:22:37] person, it could be hard going through [00:22:39] some stuff like that. And um, yeah, I [00:22:42] just I as soon as I saw this, I sent it [00:22:44] to Baron, I sent it to Ian, I sent it to [00:22:47] Jesse, I sent it to a bunch of people. I [00:22:50] hope they all make content on it. I know [00:22:51] Ian is right now. He's currently live. [00:22:54] he was talking about it. Um, I I hope [00:22:56] everybody touches on this because, you [00:22:59] know, you got to raise awareness about [00:23:01] this type of thing. I think in a few [00:23:03] hours we are going to see Candace go [00:23:05] live and uh I think she's going to talk [00:23:08] about this. I mean, it it wouldn't make [00:23:10] sense if she didn't, right? Um, and you [00:23:13] know, this interrupted my scheduling [00:23:16] because I was supposed to talk about my [00:23:18] back and forth with Bix Tones. That's [00:23:21] right. Yeah, it's getting weird. It's [00:23:24] getting real weird. Anyway, let's end it [00:23:26] off. Why turning point is attacking me [00:23:28] like this. I don't have a lot of money. [00:23:31] Lawyers are expensive and I'm going to [00:23:33] need a good one. So, I'm going to ask [00:23:36] for help. If you like my videos, [00:23:38] consider signing up for a membership. [00:23:40] That is money that I would use if this [00:23:42] turns into a lawsuit. If you want to [00:23:44] provide additional support, you can also [00:23:46] donate directly from the homepage of my [00:23:48] website on wolvesandfinance.com. [00:23:50] I really appreciate all my members and [00:23:52] I'm so thankful for your support, [00:23:54] especially in times like these. I'm Zach [00:23:56] from Wolves and Finance. Thank you for [00:23:58] watching. [00:24:00] So, that's it. That's it. That's what's [00:24:02] going on with him. And honestly, I sent [00:24:05] it to Ian. He's like, I can't wait to [00:24:07] hear your your analysts of this. And I [00:24:08] was like, me? I'm like, I don't I don't [00:24:11] analyze things. I'm going to bring up [00:24:13] some mint jokes. I'm going to make I'm [00:24:14] going to make some jokes. But um [00:24:17] honestly, at the end of the day, when I [00:24:19] see this, it shows that Turning Point [00:24:22] died with Charlie. And that's very sad [00:24:26] because I've said this before, everybody [00:24:28] wanted Turning Point to [00:24:31] become more like Charlie. Charlie said [00:24:34] in an interview once that what he wanted [00:24:37] to be remembered for is that he lived [00:24:40] out his faith courageously. And I think [00:24:43] everybody was hoping that Turning Point [00:24:45] would would do that and be courageous, [00:24:49] not just about faith, but just about [00:24:52] Charlie and what he what he stood for. [00:24:56] And instead, it seems like it just [00:24:58] turned into politics. And Charlie was [00:25:01] heavy politics, of course, but he was [00:25:04] also a lot of other things. You know, if [00:25:07] you watch his show, there were moments [00:25:08] where he would there was a lot of [00:25:10] segments where he would be just like [00:25:11] Candace and people would be like, "Whoa, [00:25:13] this guy's talking some stuff here, [00:25:15] right? He really would really would talk [00:25:17] that stuff a lot of times." [00:25:20] And he was about faith and again, he was [00:25:23] about politics, but but it seems like [00:25:26] what it's just turned into is this [00:25:28] political machine and he was the soul of [00:25:32] it. And now it seems like it's operating [00:25:34] soullessly. And it sucks to see because [00:25:38] it was what he built and [00:25:42] and now it just seems like it's it's [00:25:44] doing something else, right? I mean, [00:25:47] before it was this massive movement and [00:25:49] it still is, but now it feels more it [00:25:54] feels more like Congress than it feels [00:25:56] like a grass uh roots movement. And it [00:26:01] seems like we're going to see a lot of [00:26:03] pushing of the official narratives in [00:26:05] regards to everything from Turning [00:26:08] Point, whereas Charlie was very much [00:26:10] into alternate theories on things and he [00:26:13] would push back where push back was [00:26:15] needed and uh it's sad to see. So [00:26:19] anyways guys, just wanted to make that [00:26:21] video. Wolves in Finance, hope you're [00:26:23] doing good. Let me know if you need [00:26:25] anything. Message me and uh I'm out of [00:26:28] here. We'll see Candace soon.
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