BREAKING: CHARLIE KIRK ASSASSIN IN CUSTODY
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[00:05:45] Well, folks, this morning the presidents
[00:05:48] of the United States went on Fox and
[00:05:50] Friends and announced that the murderer,
[00:05:53] the assassin alleged of Charlie Kirk
[00:05:56] has been found is now in custody. Here's
[00:05:59] the president had to say on Fox and
[00:06:02] Friends this morning. This is shortly
[00:06:03] before a press conference held by the
[00:06:05] Utah Governor, Spencer Cox, who added
[00:06:07] more details, which we'll get into
[00:06:08] momentarily. Here was the president on
[00:06:10] the alleged murder of Charlie Kirk.
[00:06:15] >> Any updates on the suspect?
[00:06:17] >> Yeah. Uh, can I always say, uh, I think
[00:06:20] just to protect us all and so Fox
[00:06:23] doesn't get sued and we all don't get
[00:06:24] sued and everything else, but I think,
[00:06:27] uh, with a high degree of certainty, we
[00:06:30] have him
[00:06:31] >> in custody, right? In custody. Uh,
[00:06:35] everyone did a great job. We worked with
[00:06:36] the local police, the governor,
[00:06:39] everybody did a great job,
[00:06:40] >> you know, uh, getting somebody that you
[00:06:42] start off with absolutely nothing. We
[00:06:44] started off with a clip that made him
[00:06:46] look like an ant. Mhm.
[00:06:47] >> That was almost useless. We just saw
[00:06:49] there was somebody up there and uh so
[00:06:52] much work has been done over the last 2
[00:06:54] and a half days. You know, it's amazing
[00:06:56] actually when you start off with that
[00:06:57] and then all of a sudden you uh you get
[00:07:00] lucky or talent or whatever it is. But
[00:07:02] yeah, we're I think we're in great
[00:07:04] shape.
[00:07:05] >> He's in custody.
[00:07:08] >> Uh the president said that actually what
[00:07:10] happened here is that someone close to
[00:07:12] the suspect turned him in. And we'll get
[00:07:14] into that in a moment as well.
[00:07:22] essentially somebody that was very close
[00:07:24] to him turned him in. And that happens
[00:07:27] when you had some of those good shots.
[00:07:28] Somebody is going to say, whether it's a
[00:07:30] parent or whatever. I'd rather not say
[00:07:32] right now. They're going to announce it
[00:07:33] today. Sometime later, probably talk
[00:07:35] about that. But somebody close to him
[00:07:37] turned and miss, you know, they said,
[00:07:39] "Whoa, it's interesting where we we had
[00:07:42] very good pictures, but not great, not
[00:07:44] perfect." And when you look at it, what
[00:07:47] happened is is somebody, and this
[00:07:50] happens a lot. It happened with the
[00:07:52] crazy Boston bomber. It happened with
[00:07:54] others. Somebody this close recognizes
[00:07:56] even a little tilt of the head, which
[00:07:58] nobody else would do. And somebody that
[00:08:00] was very close to him said, "That's
[00:08:03] him." and uh essentially uh went to the
[00:08:08] father, went to a US marshal who was
[00:08:11] fantastic by the way and the person was
[00:08:14] involved with law enforcement but was a
[00:08:16] person of faith, a minister and brought
[00:08:20] him to a US marshal who was fantastic
[00:08:23] and the father convinced the son this is
[00:08:27] it.
[00:08:30] Well, I mean, obviously
[00:08:33] this alleged shooter should get the
[00:08:35] death penalty without a doubt. Uh, good
[00:08:38] for his father for apparently being
[00:08:41] involved in the arrest of his son, which
[00:08:45] is what baseline morality would suggest.
[00:08:47] Spencer Cox, the Utah governor, held a
[00:08:49] press conference this morning with an
[00:08:51] extraordinary amount of additional
[00:08:52] detail that gives a window into the
[00:08:55] identity of the alleged shooter and also
[00:08:58] into his ideology, the things that he
[00:09:00] was thinking. One thing became very
[00:09:03] clear from the minute that his name was
[00:09:05] announced. And again, we don't typically
[00:09:07] do the names of mass shooters or
[00:09:09] assassins on the show. It's out there.
[00:09:10] There's not much we can do about that at
[00:09:12] this point. His name is Tyler Robinson.
[00:09:14] The shooter in this particular case was
[00:09:17] clearly a sort of online the way it
[00:09:20] would be described online would be like
[00:09:21] an online autist. This is a person who
[00:09:23] had very high scores on some of his ACTs
[00:09:25] apparently uh and got deeper and deeper
[00:09:27] into online culture as we're about to
[00:09:30] hear from the Utah Governor Spencer Cox.
[00:09:32] Here he was announcing that the suspect
[00:09:35] is in custody.
[00:09:38] Good morning ladies and gentlemen. We
[00:09:40] got him.
[00:09:42] On the evening of September 11th, a
[00:09:45] family member of Tyler Robinson reached
[00:09:47] out to a family friend who contacted the
[00:09:50] Washington County Sheriff's Office with
[00:09:52] information that Robinson had confessed
[00:09:54] to them or implied that he had committed
[00:09:56] the incident. This information was
[00:09:59] relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's
[00:10:00] Office and scene investigators at Utah
[00:10:03] Valley University. This information was
[00:10:05] also conveyed to the FBI. Investigators
[00:10:08] reviewed additional foot video footage
[00:10:11] from UVU surveillance and identified
[00:10:13] Robinson arriving on UVU campus in a
[00:10:16] gray Dodge Challenger at approximately
[00:10:18] 8:29 a.m. on September 10th in which he
[00:10:22] is observed on video in a plain maroon
[00:10:25] t-shirt, light colored shorts, a black
[00:10:28] hat with a white logo, and light colored
[00:10:30] shoes. When encountered in person by
[00:10:32] investigators in Washington County on
[00:10:34] September 12th in the early morning
[00:10:36] hours, Robinson was observed in
[00:10:38] consistent clothing with those
[00:10:40] surveillance images. Investigators
[00:10:43] interviewed a family member of Robinson
[00:10:45] who stated that Robinson had become more
[00:10:47] political in recent years. The family
[00:10:50] member referenced a recent incident in
[00:10:52] which Robinson came to dinner prior to
[00:10:54] September 10th. And in the conversation
[00:10:57] with another family member, Robinson
[00:10:59] mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to
[00:11:02] UVU. They talked about why they didn't
[00:11:04] like him and the viewpoints that he had.
[00:11:07] The family member also stated Kirk was
[00:11:09] full of hate and spreading hate. The
[00:11:12] family member also confirmed Robinson
[00:11:14] had a gray Dodge Challenger.
[00:11:16] Investigators identified an individual
[00:11:18] as the roommate of Robinson.
[00:11:21] Investigators interviewed that roommate
[00:11:23] who stated that his roommate, referring
[00:11:25] to Robinson, made a joke on Discord.
[00:11:28] Investigators asked if he would show
[00:11:29] them the messages on Discord. He opened
[00:11:32] it and showed several messages to
[00:11:33] investigators and allowed investigators
[00:11:36] to take photos of the screen as each
[00:11:38] message was shown by Robinson's
[00:11:40] roommate. These photos consisted of
[00:11:42] various messages, including content of
[00:11:45] messages between the phone contact name
[00:11:47] Tyler with an emoji icon and Robinson's
[00:11:50] roommate's device. The content of these
[00:11:53] messages included messages affiliated
[00:11:56] with the contact Tyler stating a need to
[00:11:59] retrieve a rifle from a drop point,
[00:12:02] leaving the rifle in a bush, messages
[00:12:05] related to a to visually watching the
[00:12:08] area where a rifle was left, and a
[00:12:11] message referring to having left the
[00:12:13] rifle wrapped in a towel. The messages
[00:12:17] also refer to engraving bullets and a
[00:12:20] mention of a scope and the rifle being
[00:12:23] unique. Messages from the contact Tyler
[00:12:26] also mentioned that he had changed
[00:12:29] outfits.
[00:12:32] I know there has been speculation as
[00:12:34] well as to uh the the writing on those
[00:12:38] casings,
[00:12:40] those those uh those bullet casings. And
[00:12:43] uh I believe we have that as well and I
[00:12:47] I will share that with you now.
[00:12:51] >> So the governor went on to explain what
[00:12:54] the bullet casings actually said which
[00:12:57] is a window into the peculiar strange
[00:13:01] and evil ideology of the shooter which
[00:13:04] again was was rife with two online. It
[00:13:08] was rife with apparently references to
[00:13:11] everything from furries to online games
[00:13:14] like hell divers. Here was Spencer Cox
[00:13:17] explaining
[00:13:19] >> with trees on the edge of the UVU
[00:13:21] campus. Investigators discovered a
[00:13:23] boltaction rifle wrapped in a dark
[00:13:26] colored towel. The rifle was determined
[00:13:28] to be a mouser model 98 300 6 caliber
[00:13:32] 306 caliber bolt-action rifle. The rifle
[00:13:34] had a scope mounted on top of it.
[00:13:37] Investigators noted inscriptions that
[00:13:39] had been engraved on casings found with
[00:13:41] the rifle. Inscriptions on a fired
[00:13:45] casing read, "Notices, bulges, capital
[00:13:49] O, what's this question mark?"
[00:13:52] Inscriptions on the three unfired
[00:13:54] casings read, "Hey, fascist exclamation
[00:13:57] point. Catch exclamation point." Up
[00:14:00] arrow symbol, right arrow, and uh
[00:14:04] symbol, and three down arrow symbols. A
[00:14:07] second unfired casing read, "Oh, Bella
[00:14:09] Chow, Bella Chow, Bellachchow, Chow
[00:14:12] Chow." And a third unfired casing read,
[00:14:15] "If you read this, you are gay." L M A
[00:14:18] Oo,
[00:14:21] we are indebted to law enforcement uh
[00:14:26] across the state who has worked
[00:14:27] seamlessly together, local law
[00:14:29] enforcement.
[00:14:32] Now again notices bulges is presumably a
[00:14:36] reference to gay or trans and we don't
[00:14:40] know that for certain but that
[00:14:41] apparently is the online mememory. Again
[00:14:44] I think all of us who are not too online
[00:14:46] are kind of working in uncharted waters
[00:14:47] here because if you don't spend too much
[00:14:49] time online if you actually have a
[00:14:50] normal life then you are not going to be
[00:14:53] familiar with phrases like hey fascist
[00:14:55] catch which apparently again is from
[00:14:56] hell divers the game. You have to be a
[00:14:57] gamer in order to understand some of
[00:14:59] these reference references. Uh it is
[00:15:03] clear from the available evidence that
[00:15:04] he hated Charlie Kirk's politics that
[00:15:07] apparently he had called Charlie Kirk
[00:15:10] hateful which again would suggest that
[00:15:12] this is a member of the political left
[00:15:14] or was radicalized into extraordinarily
[00:15:17] left-wing viewpoints.
[00:15:19] Spencer Cox went on to say words are not
[00:15:21] violence. Violence is violence which of
[00:15:22] course should be obvious but
[00:15:23] unfortunately is not.
[00:15:27] conversations.
[00:15:29] I I think we need more moral clarity
[00:15:31] right now. I hear all the time that
[00:15:34] words are violence. Words are not
[00:15:37] violence. Violence is violence.
[00:15:40] And there is one person responsible
[00:15:44] for what happened here. And that person
[00:15:47] is now in custody
[00:15:49] and will be charged soon and will be
[00:15:52] held accountable.
[00:15:56] Spencer Cox then went on to give what I
[00:15:58] think is a terrific message and a
[00:15:59] necessary message. Something that of
[00:16:01] course you've heard a lot on this show,
[00:16:02] which is that social media is in fact a
[00:16:04] cancer and you need to touch some grass.
[00:16:05] A phrase that I've used repeatedly over
[00:16:07] the course of the last several years.
[00:16:11] This is not good for us. It is not good
[00:16:13] to consume. Um, social media is a cancer
[00:16:16] on our society right now. And I would
[00:16:18] encourage again I would encourage people
[00:16:20] to log off, turn off, touch grass, hug a
[00:16:23] family member, go out and do good in
[00:16:24] your community. Uh there are pe that is
[00:16:27] happening and it's happening organically
[00:16:28] right now. Had a friend in a in a small
[00:16:30] city in Utah who said we're we're we're
[00:16:33] getting together the Republicans and
[00:16:34] Democrats in my little town are getting
[00:16:36] together to have a discussion tonight uh
[00:16:38] last night um just to find a way to to
[00:16:41] to find their better angels. So, so yes,
[00:16:44] this this could be I I mean you you know
[00:16:47] again you have to go back to JFK to to
[00:16:50] have seen a video live of something like
[00:16:53] this happening. Um I wasn't born until
[00:16:56] 1975, but but I know that things were
[00:16:58] really dark in in the late '60s. Sorry
[00:17:00] to some of you. I know some of you were
[00:17:01] there. Uh but but
[00:17:04] this is the this is our moment. Um do we
[00:17:07] escalate or do do we find an off-ramp?
[00:17:10] And uh again, it's a choice. It's a
[00:17:13] choice.
[00:17:16] >> All of that is true. Now, the the
[00:17:18] responses from sort of the mainstream
[00:17:20] right and the mainstream left have been
[00:17:22] fairly similar in terms of of rhetoric.
[00:17:25] The president yesterday said that he
[00:17:27] wants to see nonviolence. And and I will
[00:17:28] note here that there is in fact
[00:17:30] nonviolence as a response to this. Is
[00:17:31] something Spencer Cox also noted
[00:17:33] correctly. There have been no riots.
[00:17:34] There's been no looting. There's been no
[00:17:35] violence done. Instead, you've seen
[00:17:37] prayer vigils, people coming together,
[00:17:39] even people of the right and left coming
[00:17:41] together to have discussions in honor of
[00:17:42] Charlie because that's what Charlie's
[00:17:44] life was really about. It was about
[00:17:46] aggressively promoting his ideas through
[00:17:48] discussion and debate. Here was the
[00:17:50] president yesterday.
[00:17:53] >> How do you want to see your uh
[00:17:56] supporters respond to this? Charlie Kirk
[00:17:57] was big advocate of nonviolence and free
[00:17:59] speech on campus. How do you want your
[00:18:01] supporters to respond, sir? I think that
[00:18:03] way he was he was an advocate of
[00:18:05] nonviolence. That's the way I'd like to
[00:18:07] see people respond.
[00:18:11] >> The president went on to rip what he
[00:18:13] called radical left lunatics. And I'll
[00:18:15] explain in a little bit what I think
[00:18:16] what the the president means here
[00:18:17] because again these are not arguments
[00:18:20] over over tax policy that we are talking
[00:18:22] about here. There's something deep and
[00:18:23] dark that is going on in American life.
[00:18:26] It is getting worse. It is not getting
[00:18:29] better. It is tied into deeper root
[00:18:31] ideologies and views of the world.
[00:18:34] Here's the president yesterday talking
[00:18:35] about what he called radical left
[00:18:36] lunatics.
[00:18:38] >> Are you concerned for your own safety?
[00:18:41] >> Not really. I'm uh really concerned for
[00:18:44] our country. Uh we have a great country.
[00:18:48] We have a radical left group of lunatics
[00:18:51] out there. Just absolute lunatics. And
[00:18:54] we're going to get that problem solved.
[00:18:55] I'm only concerned for the country.
[00:18:59] Bernie Sanders from the left side of the
[00:19:01] aisle put out a video in which he talked
[00:19:03] about the evils of political violence
[00:19:04] and said the discussion should be
[00:19:05] upheld, a sentiment with which everyone
[00:19:08] of good mind should agree. I despise
[00:19:10] Bernie Sanders as a politician. I think
[00:19:12] that everything that he stands for in
[00:19:14] terms of his politics is not just wrong
[00:19:16] but actually horrifically wrong for the
[00:19:18] system. I can't think of a single issue
[00:19:21] on which I agree with Bernie Sanders.
[00:19:22] Obviously, when he says this, everyone
[00:19:25] agrees.
[00:19:27] I want to say a few words regarding the
[00:19:29] terrible murder yesterday of Charlie
[00:19:32] Kirk. Uh someone who I strongly
[00:19:34] disagreed with on almost every issue,
[00:19:37] but who was clearly a very smart and
[00:19:39] effective communicator and organizer and
[00:19:42] someone unafraid to get out into the
[00:19:44] world and engage the public. My
[00:19:47] condolences go out to his wife and his
[00:19:50] family.
[00:19:52] A free and democratic society, which is
[00:19:55] what America is supposed to be about,
[00:19:58] depends upon the basic premise that
[00:20:01] people can speak out, organize, and take
[00:20:05] part in public life without fear,
[00:20:08] without worrying that they might be
[00:20:10] killed, injured, or humiliated for
[00:20:13] expressing their political views. In
[00:20:16] fact, that is the essence of what
[00:20:19] freedom is about and what democracy is
[00:20:22] about. You have a point of view. That's
[00:20:24] great. I have a point of view that is
[00:20:26] different than yours. That's great.
[00:20:28] Let's argue it out. We make our case to
[00:20:32] the American people at the local, state,
[00:20:34] and federal levels. And we hold free
[00:20:36] elections in which the people decide
[00:20:39] what they want. That's called freedom
[00:20:42] and democracy. And I want as many people
[00:20:46] as possible to participate in that
[00:20:49] process without fear.
[00:20:53] Freedom and democracy is not about
[00:20:56] political violence. It is not about
[00:20:59] assassinating public officials. It is
[00:21:02] not about trying to intimidate people
[00:21:04] who speak out on an issue. Political
[00:21:07] violence in fact is political cowardice.
[00:21:11] It means that you cannot convince people
[00:21:14] of the correctness of your ideas and you
[00:21:17] have to impose them through force.
[00:21:21] Obviously, this is all true. Everything
[00:21:23] that he's saying is true. I do have
[00:21:25] questions about why violence is arising.
[00:21:29] Excuse me. Senator Chuck Schumer and
[00:21:33] House Minority Leader Hakee Jeff also
[00:21:36] suggested political violence was wrong.
[00:21:38] Now again, it feels to me when people
[00:21:40] talk about political violence is wrong.
[00:21:42] That's like saying violence is wrong. Of
[00:21:44] course, that's true. Does that change
[00:21:47] the underlying substructures of thought
[00:21:50] that are leading to a massive elevation
[00:21:52] in violence in the country of the
[00:21:54] political variety? I don't think it
[00:21:57] means anything to just say that
[00:21:58] political violence is wrong. Because, as
[00:22:00] we'll get to in a moment, there are
[00:22:01] actual substrates of thought that lead
[00:22:03] to the elevation of the violence that
[00:22:05] lead fringe actors to go out and do
[00:22:07] things like murder Charlie Kirk.
[00:22:10] And so, having our politicians simply go
[00:22:12] out there and say, "We got to take down
[00:22:13] the temperature. We all have to use
[00:22:14] better language." Of course, that's
[00:22:16] true. But that isn't specific enough. It
[00:22:20] is not specific enough. Here Chuck
[00:22:22] Schumer and Hakee Jeff talking about
[00:22:24] this.
[00:22:27] The bottom line is this is a time that
[00:22:28] all Americans should come together and
[00:22:31] feel and mourn what happened. Violence
[00:22:34] which affects so many different people
[00:22:36] of so many different political
[00:22:38] persuasions is a is an affliction of
[00:22:41] America and coming together is what we
[00:22:44] ought to be doing. Not pointing fingers
[00:22:46] of blame. This moment requires
[00:22:49] leadership that brings the American
[00:22:51] people together as opposed to trying to
[00:22:54] further divide us. Political violence in
[00:22:57] any form against any American is
[00:22:59] unacceptable. Should be denounced by
[00:23:01] everyone. And moving forward, we have to
[00:23:04] figure out a better way to come
[00:23:06] together. Not as Democrats or
[00:23:08] Republicans, but as Americans.
[00:23:12] Okay? Now, again, all this is nice. All
[00:23:15] this is incredibly vague. So now I want
[00:23:18] to talk about something that we all know
[00:23:20] is true, but nobody seems to want to
[00:23:22] say. Not all ideologies are equally
[00:23:25] prone to violence. When there is a
[00:23:27] shooting, a mass shooting at a
[00:23:28] synagogue, a mass shooting at a church,
[00:23:31] when Charlie Kirk is shot, everybody's
[00:23:33] mind immediately go immediately goes to
[00:23:36] what are the likeliest probabilities in
[00:23:39] terms of who did the shooting. Everyone
[00:23:40] does this. We cannot pretend that we are
[00:23:43] sort of blind to the realities of the
[00:23:45] world. When there is a shooting at a
[00:23:47] synagogue,
[00:23:50] I can tell you my mind goes to two
[00:23:52] places. Radical Muslim, white
[00:23:54] supremacist. Those are usually the
[00:23:56] options. If there's a shooting at a
[00:23:57] synagogue, if there's a shooting at a
[00:23:59] church, your mind now goes to trans
[00:24:02] radical or radical Muslim. That's where
[00:24:05] your mind is going to go. I mean, this
[00:24:07] is leaving aside people who just are
[00:24:09] generally mentally ill, okay? Where
[00:24:12] there's no political ideology involved.
[00:24:14] If there is a political ideology
[00:24:15] involved, your mind immediately goes to
[00:24:17] the movements that are likely to drive
[00:24:19] people toward murder.
[00:24:23] Not every ideology is prone to this. No
[00:24:25] one thought yesterday when the killer
[00:24:28] was being sought, literally no one
[00:24:30] thought the reason that Charlie Kirk was
[00:24:32] murdered is because of Charlie's stance
[00:24:34] on low taxes. No one thought that,
[00:24:37] right? We differ on all sorts of
[00:24:39] politics in this country. Nobody thought
[00:24:40] that this was a debate about marginal
[00:24:42] tax rates and that is why Charlie was
[00:24:43] shot. Nobody thought that Charlie Kirk
[00:24:47] was murdered because of his stance on
[00:24:48] energy policy.
[00:24:51] Right? In order for an ideology, in
[00:24:53] order for a movement to coalesce in such
[00:24:55] a way that it allows for violence that
[00:24:57] the sort of bubbling of violence lies at
[00:25:00] the outskirts of a movement,
[00:25:02] there have to be some preconditions.
[00:25:05] Now, I've been talking a lot on the show
[00:25:07] about lions and scavengers.
[00:25:10] What we are seeing here is the
[00:25:12] scavengers at work. The basic philosophy
[00:25:15] of the scavenger
[00:25:16] is very simple.
[00:25:19] All morals and civilizations I don't
[00:25:20] like are guises for power. It's three
[00:25:23] principles. All morals and civilizations
[00:25:25] are merely guises for power. My failure
[00:25:28] is a result of one of those corrupt
[00:25:30] power systems. There's a great
[00:25:32] conspiracy out there. I am the victim. I
[00:25:34] am being targeted. I am the actual
[00:25:36] victim.
[00:25:38] And number three, if there is a great
[00:25:40] conspiracy that is targeting me for
[00:25:42] destruction, I must respond in kind with
[00:25:44] violence. This is how you get to the
[00:25:46] idiotic notion that speech is violent.
[00:25:49] And that that that's just the reality.
[00:25:51] It's those three elements. Morals and
[00:25:53] civilizations that I don't like are
[00:25:54] guises for power, right? They're not
[00:25:56] actual arguments. They're actual guises
[00:25:58] for power. Is power being used against
[00:25:59] me?
[00:26:01] that that my failure within that system
[00:26:04] is a result of that great conspiracy. I
[00:26:07] am the victim and it is an existential
[00:26:09] threat to me and therefore I must act
[00:26:11] out with violence and harm somebody.
[00:26:14] I'm going to give you three examples and
[00:26:16] I'm going to take them from the top
[00:26:17] death threats I receive. Now I receive
[00:26:19] an enormous number of death threats. As
[00:26:20] I've said before, I have 247 security on
[00:26:23] me, on my family. I literally go nowhere
[00:26:26] without an entire team of security now
[00:26:28] at this point in my life. And that is
[00:26:30] because of things that like what just
[00:26:32] happened to Charlie. And Charlie, by the
[00:26:33] way, had security there. I've said
[00:26:35] before, I think we're now at the end of
[00:26:36] outdoor political events after the
[00:26:37] attempted assassination of President
[00:26:39] Trump after the assassination of Charlie
[00:26:41] Kirk.
[00:26:43] I do not think that anyone in public
[00:26:45] life is going to be doing outdoor events
[00:26:47] that are insecure for the foreseeable
[00:26:49] future. Okay? But I'm going to use the
[00:26:53] PE. I know where the death threats are
[00:26:54] coming from. Okay? We know this because
[00:26:56] we can chart it. Thousands and thousands
[00:26:57] of death threats. I'm sure Charlie had a
[00:26:59] bunch, too.
[00:27:00] And there are three main wings that I
[00:27:01] get it from. Trans ideology/marxist
[00:27:04] ideology,
[00:27:06] white supremacists and radical Muslims.
[00:27:09] Okay. So I want to go through each one
[00:27:11] of those and explain why these are
[00:27:12] likely why these particular ideologies
[00:27:15] why these particular movements are
[00:27:17] likely to generate violence.
[00:27:19] A trans ideology says
[00:27:22] that your argument about biology, male
[00:27:25] and female, that that argument is in
[00:27:28] fact a guys for power. You're you're
[00:27:30] just saying that there are boys and
[00:27:31] there are girls because you hate me.
[00:27:34] You're doing it because you wish to
[00:27:35] erase me. I am a victim of your failure
[00:27:38] to accept my identity such that you're
[00:27:40] erasing me. You're engaging in a quote
[00:27:43] unquote trans genocide and therefore you
[00:27:44] are threatening me. Your speech is a
[00:27:46] form of violence. It is wiping away my
[00:27:48] identity and therefore violence ought to
[00:27:49] be met with violence. Marxist ideology
[00:27:52] which is part of the same sort of idea
[00:27:54] in these these kind of derived from the
[00:27:56] same general area. Marxist ideology
[00:27:59] which is the idea that the governmental
[00:28:01] system the the free market system is an
[00:28:04] imposition on me. It is a conspiracy
[00:28:06] from above to harm me to destroy me.
[00:28:10] That my failures inside the market are
[00:28:12] actually not my own. They are the fault
[00:28:14] of a system. And you as an advocate for
[00:28:16] the system
[00:28:17] are going to you're victimizing me.
[00:28:20] You're erasing me. You're destroying me.
[00:28:21] And I must act with violence. There's a
[00:28:23] reason why Marxist movements are so
[00:28:24] violent.
[00:28:26] Speech advocacy for the free market is
[00:28:28] in fact a system of power. It is to be
[00:28:30] met with violence.
[00:28:33] Okay. White supremacy. This is in fact I
[00:28:36] know that there is an attempt to pretend
[00:28:37] that this doesn't exist. It absolutely
[00:28:38] exists in online spaces. Pretending it
[00:28:40] doesn't is and everyone knows
[00:28:42] it.
[00:28:43] Yeah, I know it because I've had to have
[00:28:45] the FBI literally arrest somebody who is
[00:28:48] doing this while while threatening not
[00:28:49] just me, by the way, but Donald Trump
[00:28:50] Jr., okay, that ideology says that white
[00:28:54] people are being put upon in the United
[00:28:56] States
[00:28:58] by an entire system and if you are an
[00:29:01] advocate for that system, you are
[00:29:02] threatening me with destruction, with
[00:29:05] eraser, with white genocide
[00:29:08] and thus you must be killed.
[00:29:11] Right? Violence is a proper response to
[00:29:14] an attempted genocide.
[00:29:17] Right? That that is the argument that is
[00:29:18] made at root by many white supremacists.
[00:29:21] Which is why again white supremacy has
[00:29:23] been linked with and here I'm not
[00:29:24] talking about what the left calls white
[00:29:26] supremacy which is anything to the right
[00:29:27] of Hillary Clinton. I'm talking about
[00:29:28] actual honest to god white supremacists.
[00:29:32] Okay? And I again get an awful lot of
[00:29:34] that in my death threats. And group
[00:29:36] number three, radical Muslims, who
[00:29:38] believe that the failures of the
[00:29:41] Palestinians, for example, are the
[00:29:44] result of evil Western systems. If
[00:29:46] you're an advocate for those systems,
[00:29:47] it's because you want to erase them and
[00:29:48] you want to kill people and you want to
[00:29:50] commit genocide. And therefore, it is
[00:29:51] fine to shoot two Israeli embassy
[00:29:53] staffers dead in Washington, DC.
[00:29:56] That is why it is fine to throw a
[00:29:58] Molotov cocktail at an 80-year-old woman
[00:30:00] protesting hostages being held in
[00:30:01] Colorado.
[00:30:03] Okay, we all know this is true.
[00:30:05] pretending it isn't true doesn't make it
[00:30:07] go away.
[00:30:09] Okay? Not all movements are equally
[00:30:12] likely to bubble up with violence. And
[00:30:13] so when we have politicians saying
[00:30:15] political violence is bad, if you're not
[00:30:16] speaking out against the movements that
[00:30:18] use this logic,
[00:30:20] if you're not speaking out against the
[00:30:22] movements that say that speech is in
[00:30:24] fact a form of violence, that systems
[00:30:26] are in fact a form of violence, and that
[00:30:27] violence is the proper response to that,
[00:30:30] then you are contributing to the
[00:30:31] environment in which this kind of stuff
[00:30:32] happens.
[00:30:34] fact. Okay. Now, just in terms of
[00:30:36] numbers, this is not differentially
[00:30:38] split across the right and left in the
[00:30:40] United States. It is not.
[00:30:43] There are not that many radical Muslims
[00:30:44] in the United States. Thank God. Okay?
[00:30:47] That's just a reality by the numbers.
[00:30:49] There are not that many white
[00:30:50] supremacists in the United States just
[00:30:52] by the numbers.
[00:30:54] The increasing radicalism of the left in
[00:30:58] the United States is in fact a massive
[00:31:00] issue. And I'm going to show you the
[00:31:01] poll data that suggests that violence is
[00:31:04] linked with this.
[00:31:06] And all of these movements are linked
[00:31:08] with violence. They are, but not all of
[00:31:10] them are all that prominent or all that
[00:31:13] popular.
[00:31:15] And you can tell, you can see it.
[00:31:18] So for example,
[00:31:20] FIRE recently did rankings of campus
[00:31:24] free speech and what they found is that
[00:31:27] college campuses are replete with
[00:31:31] failure to speak your mind. Why? Because
[00:31:33] people are afraid of violence. This goes
[00:31:34] all the way back to when I was in
[00:31:35] college. There's nothing new here. I
[00:31:36] wrote my very first book in 2004 about
[00:31:39] the kind of discrimination conservatives
[00:31:40] faced on campus. And yes, there was the
[00:31:43] possibility of violence even in 2004,
[00:31:45] not being shot, but the possibility of
[00:31:48] being physically assaulted, which is
[00:31:49] something that
[00:31:51] came close to happening to me multiple
[00:31:53] times when even I was in undergrad. And
[00:31:55] that's going back 20 years already,
[00:31:56] going back two decades. And I was
[00:31:58] warning that was going to metastasize
[00:31:59] and take over huge swaths of the
[00:32:02] political left. And people ignored it at
[00:32:04] the time, but that was true. According
[00:32:07] to fire, after 6 years of surveying
[00:32:10] almost 300,000 college undergraduates, a
[00:32:13] sobering picture has emerged. Students
[00:32:14] are reluctant to speak their minds. The
[00:32:16] atmosphere isn't just cautious, it's
[00:32:17] hostile. Students continue to show low
[00:32:19] tolerance for controversial speakers or
[00:32:21] troubling. More believe it is acceptable
[00:32:23] to shout down a speaker or even resort
[00:32:25] to violence to silence campus speech
[00:32:27] than ever before. Ever. Resort to
[00:32:30] violence to silence campus speech.
[00:32:32] That's exactly what happened to my
[00:32:34] friend Charlie Kirk. He was shot to
[00:32:36] death doing campus speech.
[00:32:38] And that is not a wildly unpopular
[00:32:42] viewpoint on college campuses. It just
[00:32:44] isn't. It's the reason why I've had to
[00:32:46] have, honest to God, hundreds of police
[00:32:48] officers sometimes escort me when I want
[00:32:50] to speak on campus. And I've said
[00:32:52] before, I feel like an idiot today.
[00:32:53] Honestly, I feel like a because
[00:32:55] for more than 10 years, like my my first
[00:32:58] big speech along these lines came, I
[00:33:00] believe, in 2015 at the University of
[00:33:01] Missouri during the Black Lives Matter
[00:33:03] sort of upsurge. might have been in 2014
[00:33:06] after Ferguson. And I remember
[00:33:10] people asking about safety. I said, "I'm
[00:33:12] not I'm not worried about safety.
[00:33:13] There's some police there. I've got a
[00:33:14] security team. No one's going to take a
[00:33:16] shot at me. This is America. You don't
[00:33:18] get shot in America for saying things on
[00:33:20] a college campus. This is America. I
[00:33:21] grew up in this country. This is my
[00:33:23] country. This is the country I love.
[00:33:24] This is where our fundamental value is
[00:33:26] the first amendment to the Constitution
[00:33:27] of the United States. No one's going to
[00:33:30] do this kind of stuff. No one. And I was
[00:33:32] wrong. I was an idiot. And it turns out
[00:33:34] it's becoming more and more common.
[00:33:37] A record one in three students,
[00:33:39] according to fire, the foundation for
[00:33:41] individual rights and education, a
[00:33:43] record one in three students now holds
[00:33:45] some level of acceptance, even if only
[00:33:47] rarely, for resorting to violence to
[00:33:49] stop a campus speech. The answer is
[00:33:52] never. Not rarely. Never. That is the
[00:33:54] proper moral answer.
[00:33:57] Right now, according to fire, 71%
[00:34:01] of college students nationally say that
[00:34:04] they support shouting down a speaker to
[00:34:05] prevent them from speaking on campus.
[00:34:08] 54% say that they approve blocking other
[00:34:12] students from attending a campus speech.
[00:34:15] 34%, more than onethird, say that it is
[00:34:18] sometimes acceptable to use violence to
[00:34:21] stop a campus speech. Now, I'm sure not
[00:34:23] everybody who believes they're using
[00:34:24] violence thinks in terms of shooting
[00:34:26] someone to death. But when you are
[00:34:28] drawing from a pool at this point of
[00:34:30] legitimately tens of millions of
[00:34:31] Americans, young Americans, people who
[00:34:34] are too online by the numbers who are
[00:34:36] atomistic and isolated and don't touch
[00:34:38] grass and you're drawing from that pool,
[00:34:41] it is not going to be hard to find some
[00:34:43] unhinged people who decide to take that
[00:34:45] to its logical conclusion and fire a
[00:34:47] bullet through the throat of a man who
[00:34:49] is simply attempting to speak truth to
[00:34:52] people in the friendliest possible
[00:34:54] fashion.
[00:34:56] And unfortunately,
[00:34:57] this is not this fire survey is not an
[00:35:00] outlier. It is not an outlier.
[00:35:03] Citizen data did a poll in 2004 in which
[00:35:07] it found that Gen Z shows a higher
[00:35:10] tolerance for political violence against
[00:35:11] elected officials.
[00:35:13] If you take a look at this particular
[00:35:15] graph, what it shows
[00:35:19] is that the vast majority of boomers
[00:35:21] understand
[00:35:23] that as much as we hate the boomers, the
[00:35:24] boomers did grow up in a in a time when
[00:35:26] free speech was actually valued.
[00:35:29] Not even 10% of boomers believe that
[00:35:32] there ought to be some form of
[00:35:34] acceptable political violence against
[00:35:36] elected officials. For millennials,
[00:35:38] people aged 28 to 43, that number was
[00:35:41] about onethird.
[00:35:44] for Jenzers, people aged 18 to 27,
[00:35:48] people aged 18 to 27, you are talking
[00:35:51] about nearly 60% 60%
[00:35:55] believe that there are some
[00:35:58] times or people who should be targeted
[00:36:01] with political violence. The acceptance
[00:36:04] of political violence by the younger
[00:36:06] generation particularly who have been
[00:36:08] too online for too long is astounding.
[00:36:12] astounding.
[00:36:15] According and and by the way, it there
[00:36:17] there are some weird outliers in in
[00:36:19] these graphs. By the way, it turns out
[00:36:21] that actually an outsized number of
[00:36:22] millennials believe that it is okay to
[00:36:25] kill or physically harm somebody you
[00:36:28] disagree with politically.
[00:36:32] I mean, the these are these numbers
[00:36:34] should scare the living hell out of you.
[00:36:37] And as far as free speech,
[00:36:40] a future of free speech global survey
[00:36:42] showed, this is back in March, that only
[00:36:45] 47% of young people in America aged 18
[00:36:48] to 34 say that hate speech should be
[00:36:51] allowed. Now, again, hate speech is
[00:36:52] vaguely defined. Hate speech just means
[00:36:55] a thing I don't like. Right? That's what
[00:36:57] hate speech supposedly means because you
[00:37:01] could call it hate speech if you say
[00:37:02] boys are not girls. You could also call
[00:37:04] it hate speech if you use the n-word
[00:37:07] where you say that Jews are responsible
[00:37:08] for all the world's problems. Now, two
[00:37:11] of those three things are terrible and
[00:37:13] untrue. One of those things that men are
[00:37:15] not women is not. But if they all get
[00:37:16] labeled hate speech, and if hate speech
[00:37:18] is just a moving target, which it really
[00:37:20] is, then what you end up with is people
[00:37:22] who believe that free speech ought not
[00:37:24] apply to people with whom they disagree.
[00:37:28] tolerance for religiously offensive
[00:37:30] speech has dropped from 71% in 2021 to
[00:37:32] 57% in 2025. So what does this result
[00:37:36] in? It doesn't mean that every single
[00:37:37] person on the left is a is a violent
[00:37:40] radical. It means these ideologies are
[00:37:42] significantly tied in with violent
[00:37:44] radicalism in a way that makes it more
[00:37:46] likely that you are going to. Again,
[00:37:48] there are many ideologies that do this,
[00:37:50] many conspiratorial ideologies that do
[00:37:51] this, but the ones that are most
[00:37:53] prevalent in America are among young
[00:37:54] people. They're on college campuses.
[00:37:57] They are online and they are oriented to
[00:37:59] the left. It is how you end up with
[00:38:01] University of Louisville posters showing
[00:38:05] the day after Charlie Kirk was shot to
[00:38:07] death cartoons of Charlie Kirk bleeding
[00:38:10] from his jugular vein saying debate
[00:38:13] this.
[00:38:14] That is how you end up with that sort of
[00:38:16] trash. This is how you end up with
[00:38:19] graffiti at Seattle Central College
[00:38:23] that says kill all Charlie Kirks at
[00:38:25] Seattle Central. That's how you end up
[00:38:27] with this. Doesn't mean again every I
[00:38:29] don't like when people I've said this
[00:38:31] yesterday. I don't like when people say
[00:38:32] they. They shot Charlie. Okay? Because
[00:38:35] they isn't a a person. A person shot
[00:38:38] Charlie Kirk and he shot Charlie Kirk
[00:38:39] for a deranged reason. With that said,
[00:38:42] there are movements that the substrates
[00:38:45] of their of their political thinking
[00:38:48] lead to an elevation in violence.
[00:38:50] Period. End of story. That is a reality.
[00:38:52] And it is not enough to just say
[00:38:54] political violence is bad if you are not
[00:38:55] calling out the movements themselves and
[00:38:58] either dellinking them from violence,
[00:39:00] dellinking, doing a cognitive behavioral
[00:39:03] intervention,
[00:39:05] dellinking these movements from
[00:39:06] violence, saying listen, we can agree on
[00:39:08] again, no one thinks people are getting
[00:39:09] shot over tax rates. Why? Because no one
[00:39:11] talks about tax rates as a giant
[00:39:13] conspiracy by the by some against others
[00:39:16] that are an existential threat to you.
[00:39:18] That is why.
[00:39:20] But this is how you end up this sick
[00:39:22] sort of thinking is how you end up with
[00:39:24] Michael Mann
[00:39:26] reposting a UEN administrator
[00:39:30] who said quote Ezra Klein whitewashing
[00:39:31] Charlie Kirk is an upstanding political
[00:39:33] citizen of the world with just a few
[00:39:35] free speech controversies who started
[00:39:36] disagreements is the most predictable
[00:39:37] thing to happen. I envied what he built.
[00:39:39] Is this an abundance mindset? people
[00:39:41] just making excuses now looking for
[00:39:44] reasons to say that you know well that
[00:39:47] that Charlie let's not let's not be
[00:39:50] let's not beatify Charlie let's not
[00:39:51] let's not give Charlie saintthood or
[00:39:53] something
[00:39:55] right this is it should not be necessary
[00:39:59] in the aftermath I was talking to a
[00:40:01] friend who's European yesterday and he
[00:40:05] was it was Douglas Murray and Douglas
[00:40:06] was I was talking to Douglas about this
[00:40:07] a little bit yesterday and Douglas was
[00:40:09] saying that when he was covering
[00:40:11] the Charlie Hebdo shooting in France.
[00:40:13] One of the things that he found
[00:40:14] interesting is that the upsurge in this
[00:40:17] the Jesu Charlie you remember this there
[00:40:20] people were posting sweet Charlie I am
[00:40:22] Charlie Hebdo and he said one of the
[00:40:25] things that was fascinating is no one
[00:40:26] felt the compulsion to say in in France
[00:40:30] I disagreed with Charlie Hebdo but no
[00:40:34] one felt that compunction. Why? Because
[00:40:36] the basic idea is that whatever you
[00:40:37] disagree with is irrelevant. You don't
[00:40:39] get shot for saying a thing. You don't
[00:40:43] get shot. But in the United States,
[00:40:44] there is this very large group of people
[00:40:46] who feel the necessity
[00:40:49] to say, well, you know, not saying he
[00:40:52] had it coming, but
[00:40:55] there is that there is that Stephen King
[00:40:59] got himself in trouble yesterday
[00:41:02] for tweeting he advocated stoning gays
[00:41:04] to death. Just saying. Which is a lie.
[00:41:06] That is not true. Charlie never
[00:41:07] advocated that. Not in a million years.
[00:41:11] This is how you end up with the Oxford
[00:41:14] Union president-elect,
[00:41:17] a person named George Aberany
[00:41:22] who put out on social media, Charlie
[00:41:24] Kirk got shot. Let's effing go. This
[00:41:28] would be a person that Charlie actually
[00:41:29] debated. A person that Charlie actually
[00:41:31] had a perfectly normal exchange with.
[00:41:34] Here is the video of him interacting
[00:41:36] with this person who is then essentially
[00:41:38] blessing his murder.
[00:41:42] >> There are other factors outside of
[00:41:43] simply just
[00:41:44] >> you see what you're doing respectfully.
[00:41:46] You you're you're scrambling for an
[00:41:48] excuse to get away from the truth that's
[00:41:49] right in front of you. Maybe men should
[00:41:52] get married and have children because
[00:41:54] it's worked for 2,000 years.
[00:41:55] >> I just think it's a very dishonest way
[00:41:57] to go about this argument that there's
[00:41:58] only one issue.
[00:41:59] >> Interesting. Can I challenge you on that
[00:42:00] though? Why is it that the men of much
[00:42:02] poorer African and Asian countries don't
[00:42:04] have suicide issues yet they have no
[00:42:06] money?
[00:42:08] >> How do we know that?
[00:42:08] >> Oh, we know again by a empirical third
[00:42:11] party reported data from the UN from the
[00:42:14] US State Department. There is not a
[00:42:15] suicide crisis in subsaharan Africa.
[00:42:18] There's not a suicide crisis in in
[00:42:20] Southeast Asia with young men. So
[00:42:23] explain to me that phenomenon. They're
[00:42:24] materially wealthy. Not they're not
[00:42:26] materially wealthy and yet they're
[00:42:29] harming themselves. So why would you
[00:42:31] then say it's austerity?
[00:42:33] >> Wait, sorry. Say that again.
[00:42:34] >> Okay. You're you're you're looking for
[00:42:36] another explanation for male
[00:42:37] unhappiness. I'm pointing to you to a
[00:42:39] part of the world that actually does
[00:42:41] value marriage and does have children,
[00:42:43] but they have no money.
[00:42:44] >> Mhm.
[00:42:45] >> So therefore, how could you say it is a
[00:42:47] material problem why the men of London
[00:42:49] who can dress how they want, go to
[00:42:50] whatever bar they want, are not happy?
[00:42:53] >> Because there's more than one reason.
[00:42:54] Like there are multiple factors. It's
[00:42:56] not just like it's not even just
[00:42:57] economic. there's economic, there's
[00:42:59] social, there's like like religious
[00:43:00] pressures, there's like there's so many
[00:43:01] like you cannot boil down a societal
[00:43:03] issue to like one
[00:43:04] >> and I acknowledge that right I I even at
[00:43:06] the beginning remember I'm saying the
[00:43:08] biggest the one that has an exponent on
[00:43:10] it is that we have a biological urge
[00:43:12] that God gave us when he designed us
[00:43:14] which is to be fruitful and multiply for
[00:43:17] men to provide for the family and when
[00:43:19] we suppress that and we say that you can
[00:43:22] go live whatever lifestyle you would
[00:43:24] like as already happens in the west we
[00:43:26] have exhibit A We have we have
[00:43:31] a a serious
[00:43:33] suicide, mental health, anxiety,
[00:43:35] depression issue. So I would just ask
[00:43:36] you to think over the next couple days,
[00:43:38] months or years, why is it that men in
[00:43:40] countries that barely have toilets and
[00:43:43] do not have two pounds to rub together,
[00:43:46] but they do have kids and they do have a
[00:43:48] wife are much happier than someone with
[00:43:50] a big flat in downtown London. Something
[00:43:52] to think about. I mean I I think
[00:43:54] happiness is a difficult idea to
[00:43:56] conflate in that sense. I mean they're
[00:43:58] less likely to kill themselves. Forget
[00:44:00] all these happiness indexes. If you kill
[00:44:01] yourself, you're not happy, right? So
[00:44:03] these poor countries do not have male
[00:44:06] suicide problems. Why?
[00:44:11] >> Think about it. Thank you very much.
[00:44:14] Okay, that is a perfectly respective I
[00:44:16] mean respectful back and forth with this
[00:44:19] person who celebrated the murder of
[00:44:20] Charlie Kirk yesterday.
[00:44:22] Okay, think about the ideology that
[00:44:24] leads to that. Think about the ideology
[00:44:27] that leads to that. Glad, the gay and
[00:44:28] lesbian alliance against defamation put
[00:44:30] out a statement, quote, "It is a
[00:44:31] demonstrable fact that Charlie Kirk
[00:44:33] spread infinite amounts of
[00:44:34] disinformation about LGBTQ people. Lies
[00:44:36] and betrayal about transgender people
[00:44:38] were a frequent part of his rhetoric and
[00:44:40] events. We need leaders and all those
[00:44:42] with platforms to prioritize safety over
[00:44:43] disinformation, irresponsible politics,
[00:44:45] and profit." Now again, when they say we
[00:44:48] need leaders and all those with
[00:44:49] platforms to prioritize safety, what
[00:44:51] they are saying is that Charlie Kirk
[00:44:52] made people unsafe by saying things.
[00:44:55] Again, I've I've had an I've had this a
[00:44:57] lot myself. This is always the argument
[00:44:59] used to ban me from campus was you're
[00:45:02] going to threaten safety and I'd say
[00:45:03] who's threatening safety? Me talk say no
[00:45:05] no people here are going to get so angry
[00:45:06] they're going to threaten safety. So, so
[00:45:07] they're threatening safety so I'm
[00:45:08] banned. This is the sort of stuff
[00:45:10] Charlie faced down as well.
[00:45:13] A columnist over at Slate. I'm an Ismile
[00:45:16] said the Overton window shifted partly
[00:45:18] by his own hand. Kirk pushed the idea
[00:45:20] that people's identities or political
[00:45:21] beliefs make them inherently dangerous.
[00:45:23] He called Muslims like me incompatible
[00:45:24] with America. Just this summer, he
[00:45:26] released a podcast episode literally
[00:45:27] titled Islam incompatible with the West.
[00:45:31] Okay. Well, I mean, him criticizing
[00:45:33] Islam as a as a full-fledged philosophy
[00:45:37] is not the same thing as people calling
[00:45:40] for his death. He is not saying that
[00:45:42] every Muslim needs to be killed. He
[00:45:44] never said anything remotely like that.
[00:45:47] He was talking about the compatibility
[00:45:48] of ideology with Western ideologies,
[00:45:50] which is sort of a normal conversation
[00:45:51] that's been taking place politically
[00:45:53] for, I don't know, several hundred years
[00:45:54] at this point. But the goal is again to
[00:45:58] create a permission structure, a
[00:46:00] permission structure that ends with
[00:46:01] violence. It's the same permission
[00:46:03] structure that happened with Luigi
[00:46:04] Manion. And I got ripped by people both
[00:46:06] right and left for saying that Luigi
[00:46:08] Manion was a piece of and that what
[00:46:10] he did to Brian Thompson was utterly
[00:46:11] despicable.
[00:46:14] I got ripped for that. Comedian Bill
[00:46:16] Burr went on national television and
[00:46:18] said, "Free Luigi." Why? Because his
[00:46:21] idea was that Luigi Manion, again, when
[00:46:23] I talk about Marxist substrates that end
[00:46:25] with violence, his idea was that Luigi
[00:46:27] Manion represented the common man
[00:46:29] standing up against the predations of a
[00:46:31] conspiratorial and evil healthcare
[00:46:33] system that killed people. Therefore,
[00:46:34] Brian Thompson deserved to die in some
[00:46:36] way. Don't pretend. That's just a quote
[00:46:39] unquote political violence problem. It's
[00:46:40] too vague. It doesn't mean anything.
[00:46:44] If you actually want to fight violence,
[00:46:45] you have to stand up against the
[00:46:47] movements that generate it.
[00:46:51] Medi Hassan and Representative Ilhan
[00:46:53] Omar, who both have spent enormous
[00:46:55] amounts of time over the past several
[00:46:56] years finding strange justifications for
[00:46:59] terror allies,
[00:47:02] playing a double game.
[00:47:04] Oh yes, we condemn terrorism of of all
[00:47:06] sorts. Of all sorts. And by that they
[00:47:07] mean that they condemn, for example,
[00:47:09] Israeli military action against
[00:47:11] terrorists, but they also kind of
[00:47:12] condemn terrorism, but really they're
[00:47:14] not going to they're not going to do
[00:47:15] anything about the
[00:47:18] Both of these people decided that
[00:47:20] yesterday would be an excellent day to
[00:47:22] attack Charlie Kirk.
[00:47:26] You know, Charlie was someone who once
[00:47:29] said, um, you know, guns save lives,
[00:47:34] um, after a a school shooting. Um,
[00:47:37] Charlie was someone who was willing to
[00:47:40] debate and downplay the death of George
[00:47:43] Floyd uh in the hands of Minneapolis
[00:47:45] police.
[00:47:46] >> I think he called him a scumbag,
[00:47:47] >> right? Have no regard. Um, downplay
[00:47:50] slavery and what black people have gone
[00:47:52] through in in this country uh by saying
[00:47:55] Juneen should never exist. Um, and I and
[00:47:59] I think you know the the there are a lot
[00:48:01] of people who are out there talking
[00:48:02] about him just wanting to have a civil
[00:48:04] debate.
[00:48:06] complete rewriting of a complete
[00:48:08] rewriting of history.
[00:48:09] >> Yeah. There is nothing um more effed up,
[00:48:12] you know, like uh than to than to
[00:48:15] completely pretend that, you know, his
[00:48:18] words and actions
[00:48:20] um have not been recorded and and and in
[00:48:24] existence um for for the last decade or
[00:48:27] so.
[00:48:28] and and you know, you you have people
[00:48:31] like Nancy Mays who constantly harass,
[00:48:34] you know, people that she finds inferior
[00:48:37] and and wants them not to exist in in in
[00:48:40] in this country or ever. Um, and you
[00:48:43] know, you have people like Trump who has
[00:48:46] incited violence against people like me.
[00:48:49] >> And so, you know, the these people are
[00:48:51] full of and it's important for us
[00:48:53] to to call them out.
[00:48:58] vile, vile human beings, truly vile.
[00:49:02] You know, like Charlie got shot two days
[00:49:04] ago to death. And their first reaction
[00:49:06] is, "Let me find things I disagree with
[00:49:08] him about and then say that he didn't
[00:49:09] contribute to political debate." That
[00:49:11] that would be it would be ridiculous to
[00:49:13] suggest that he was just trying to
[00:49:14] nonviolently hold debates, which by the
[00:49:17] way is the story about Charlie. You can
[00:49:18] disagree with all the things he said,
[00:49:20] but the notion that because he
[00:49:21] criticized George Floyd or because he
[00:49:24] said that Junth shouldn't be a holiday
[00:49:27] that that somehow it's ridiculous
[00:49:29] rewriting of history to say that Charlie
[00:49:30] was a free speech advocate who who
[00:49:32] engaged in respectful debate.
[00:49:36] F off. I mean truly, especially coming
[00:49:38] from I'm sorry, Ilhan Omar and Medi
[00:49:40] Hassan. Make sure if this is the way
[00:49:42] that we're going to play the game, we're
[00:49:43] going to find the thing I disagree with
[00:49:45] you about most, the one thing that that
[00:49:47] you said or the or the multiple things
[00:49:49] that you said that we find, you know,
[00:49:50] the most difficult to swallow just
[00:49:52] politically, and then we're going to
[00:49:53] essentially imply that he created the
[00:49:55] environment for his own death.
[00:49:57] I have some clips.
[00:50:00] Here's Representative Ilhan Omar
[00:50:02] talking about 9/11 in 2019. I just like
[00:50:05] to remind you this is a person who was
[00:50:07] welcomed to this country. This is a
[00:50:10] person who was welcomed to this country
[00:50:13] as a refugee.
[00:50:17] And here she was talking about 911 on 20
[00:50:19] in in 2019. This was just 6 years ago.
[00:50:25] Care was founded after 911
[00:50:28] because they recognized that some people
[00:50:31] did something and that all of us were
[00:50:34] starting to lose access to our civil
[00:50:37] liberties.
[00:50:39] This is a person who advocates
[00:50:41] permission structures for terrorism. I
[00:50:43] mean that in the most specific possible
[00:50:44] way. This is a person who literally
[00:50:46] wrote a letter to a judge named Michael
[00:50:49] Davis
[00:50:50] in 2016 asking for clemency for people
[00:50:54] who were recruited to ISIS.
[00:50:57] Don't tell me that you are an advocate
[00:50:58] for nonviolent debate and discussion
[00:51:01] when you're doing that and that you're
[00:51:02] going to criticize Charlie Kirk who just
[00:51:04] shot to death because because
[00:51:07] he said they didn't like Junth. Spare
[00:51:10] me.
[00:51:12] She literally wrote in this letter that
[00:51:15] compassion should be used in a
[00:51:17] restorative approach to justice,
[00:51:19] concluding, quote, this ruling can set a
[00:51:20] precedent and has the potential to be a
[00:51:22] landmark case in addressing extremism
[00:51:25] by granting clemency to a bunch of
[00:51:28] people who tried to join ISIS. Who tried
[00:51:31] to join ISIS that was Ilhan Omar just a
[00:51:34] few years ago. Quote, "The desire to
[00:51:36] commit violence is not inherent to
[00:51:37] people. It is the consequences of
[00:51:39] systemic alienation. People seek violent
[00:51:41] solutions when the process established
[00:51:43] for enacting change is inaccessible to
[00:51:45] them. Fueled by disaction turned to
[00:51:46] malice, she wrote, "If the guilty were
[00:51:48] willing to kill and be killed, fighting
[00:51:49] perceived injustice, imagine the
[00:51:51] consequence of them hearing, I believe
[00:51:52] you can be rehabilitated."
[00:51:54] So, in other words, she believed that
[00:51:56] these people tried to join ISIS because
[00:51:58] of shortcomings in American society.
[00:52:01] That's the ideology that I'm talking
[00:52:03] about that generates actual violence.
[00:52:07] That is the ideology
[00:52:11] Medi Hassan
[00:52:14] this is Medi Hassan some years ago
[00:52:16] saying that non-Muslims are animals.
[00:52:19] Should we use that as a a way to gauge
[00:52:21] whether or not he has elevated the
[00:52:23] debate
[00:52:27] >> and we never lose the moral high ground.
[00:52:30] If we know anything Muhammad Shia
[00:52:34] Hussein, we know that keeping the moral
[00:52:37] high ground is key.
[00:52:39] Once we lose the moral high ground, we
[00:52:41] are no different from the rest of the
[00:52:43] non-Muslims, from the rest of those
[00:52:45] human beings who live their lives as
[00:52:47] animals bending any rule to fulfill any
[00:52:50] desire.
[00:52:54] We can play this game all day long.
[00:52:58] Now again, I don't want to pretend that
[00:53:00] you can tell Charlie tweeted this a few
[00:53:02] years back. You can tell who people are
[00:53:04] by how they respond to a death. And that
[00:53:08] is certainly true. And how many people
[00:53:09] on the left have responded to the death
[00:53:10] is sickening, frightening. You go over
[00:53:13] to Blue Sky, you go over to X, you go
[00:53:15] over to you go over to Tik Tok and these
[00:53:17] various other social media outlets and
[00:53:19] you can see it. The reaction to all of
[00:53:21] this.
[00:53:24] There is a conspiratorial strain on the
[00:53:27] right
[00:53:28] that needs to be called out here. And
[00:53:31] the people who have associated with this
[00:53:32] and promoted this, let's just say you've
[00:53:35] made a massive moral error.
[00:53:38] Ian Carol, who's been promoted by a wide
[00:53:41] variety of larger figures. He was on Joe
[00:53:44] Rogan's show. He used to host Candace
[00:53:47] Owen's show. Ian Carol yesterday was
[00:53:50] tweeting out in the middle of the search
[00:53:53] for the suspect that actually actually
[00:53:57] what was happening here was that Israel
[00:54:00] had assass
[00:54:04] and say it was Israel. Of course
[00:54:07] Ian Carol tweeted yesterday was a
[00:54:09] turning point for Israel US relations.
[00:54:12] Less than 24 hours and the internet
[00:54:13] already figured out who the most likely
[00:54:14] culprit was. He was their friend. He
[00:54:16] basically dedicated his life to them and
[00:54:18] they murdered him in front of his
[00:54:19] family. Israel just shot themselves.
[00:54:22] That person was hosted by some of the
[00:54:24] biggest hosts on the man on the man pod
[00:54:28] bro man
[00:54:30] right.
[00:54:32] That that person was elevated
[00:54:36] from obscurity deserved obscurity to
[00:54:39] prominence to promote this kind of
[00:54:40] horseshit.
[00:54:43] And that was going around a lot on the
[00:54:44] internet yesterday.
[00:54:46] You have people who are literally part
[00:54:48] of disinformation systems, like
[00:54:49] legitimate Iranian disinformation
[00:54:51] systems,
[00:54:52] suggesting to the retweets of millions
[00:54:56] of people, literally millions of people
[00:54:58] that Charlie was assassinated because I
[00:55:00] was on Charlie's show the day before and
[00:55:02] he asked me questions about Israel.
[00:55:05] The algorithms are broken. They are
[00:55:07] benefiting the worst people. Social
[00:55:09] media is benefiting the worst people.
[00:55:12] They're generating the conditions for
[00:55:13] violence.
[00:55:15] There's no question that that is the
[00:55:17] case. And all the people who have been
[00:55:19] playing footsie with these folks, all
[00:55:22] the people who have been promoting it in
[00:55:24] the name of just asking questions or or
[00:55:27] trying to unmask the great conspiracy
[00:55:29] that will suddenly change the world
[00:55:31] forever.
[00:55:33] All those people have elevated precisely
[00:55:35] the kinds of scavenger movements that
[00:55:36] I'm talking about that end with
[00:55:38] violence.
[00:55:40] Everyone knows where the violent death
[00:55:41] threats are coming from. Everyone knows
[00:55:43] it. It is a variety of movements. It is
[00:55:44] not just one, but it is also not a
[00:55:47] mystery.
[00:55:49] And it is worth calling all of that
[00:55:52] nonsense, disgusting, awful trash out.
[00:55:59] And by the way, I should mention that
[00:56:01] the number the number of Jews who have
[00:56:04] who have expressed to me their absolute
[00:56:07] heartbreak at the murder of Charlie Kirk
[00:56:09] is extraordinary. Extraordinary.
[00:56:12] It was the prime minister of Israel who
[00:56:14] put up a full statement lamenting the
[00:56:15] death of Charlie Cran. Is he anything
[00:56:16] from Qatar or Saudi Arabia?
[00:56:20] Like this is
[00:56:23] Charlie
[00:56:24] Charlie was an Israel supporter.
[00:56:27] Charlie supported a lot of things that a
[00:56:28] lot of people didn't like.
[00:56:32] the people who who have created the
[00:56:35] permission structures
[00:56:37] for
[00:56:38] for this sort of violence.
[00:56:41] Those permission structures need to be
[00:56:43] called out wherever they are, right and
[00:56:45] left. I do not think that they are
[00:56:46] equally distributed right and left. I
[00:56:47] think they are significantly more
[00:56:48] common, significantly more deeply
[00:56:49] embedded on the left. They need to be
[00:56:51] called out. It is imperative to do that.
[00:56:56] It is imperative.
[00:57:00] Well,
[00:57:02] Charlie is was a real human being with a
[00:57:07] real life. He was a married father of
[00:57:10] two.
[00:57:12] They had to ship his body is un unthink
[00:57:14] is just inexpressable.
[00:57:17] Yesterday
[00:57:19] his body was shipped
[00:57:22] back from Utah to Arizona where he lived
[00:57:26] with his wife and his two children. He
[00:57:29] was escorted by the vice president of
[00:57:30] the United States on Air Force 2, which
[00:57:32] of course is a tremendous posumous
[00:57:35] honor. Here's the video of the vice
[00:57:37] president escorting Charlie's casket.
[00:57:57] [Music]
[00:58:23] the the plane deboard in Arizona. Here
[00:58:25] is video of Ushavans, the second lady of
[00:58:27] the United States, and Erica Kirk,
[00:58:30] Charlie's young wife, deboarding the
[00:58:33] plane, holding hands.
[00:58:51] The movements that make a woman like
[00:58:53] this the widow make children like
[00:58:56] Charlie's two little kids
[00:58:58] orphans.
[00:59:00] They put them but
[00:59:04] there there are no there are no words.
[00:59:06] There are legitimately no words. There's
[00:59:08] a fairly moving picture of Charlie's
[00:59:10] wife Erica raising her rosary outside
[00:59:14] the window. One of the things that
[00:59:15] Charlie relied upon in his life, as
[00:59:17] we've saw over and over, was was faith.
[00:59:19] His wife Erica was Catholic. Charlie was
[00:59:21] Protestant.
[00:59:24] It's
[00:59:28] Charlie
[00:59:30] will leave an extraordinary legacy
[00:59:33] for all people of faith, for people who
[00:59:35] believe in a better country of community
[00:59:38] and family, of traditional biblical
[00:59:41] values and free speech.
[00:59:44] an aggressive and interesting debate and
[00:59:46] discussion about the key issues that
[00:59:48] matter. Charlie's legacy will never die.
[00:59:50] The president of the United States
[00:59:52] yesterday talked about TPUSA, of course,
[00:59:55] as Turning Point USA, Charlie's massive
[00:59:57] and powerful organization, and talked
[00:59:59] about keeping TPUSA going, which we hope
[01:00:02] to help in any way that we can here at
[01:00:03] Daily Wire.
[01:00:06] >> I spoke to his wife yesterday. She's
[01:00:07] like devastated, of course. But in
[01:00:10] between the devastation, they want to
[01:00:12] keep Turning Point going because so many
[01:00:15] people called into me with donations.
[01:00:17] They want I don't know who do we give
[01:00:19] donations to her? Do we give it to
[01:00:21] Turning Point? Do we give it to, you
[01:00:22] know, any one of the hundreds of
[01:00:24] colleges that he worked with or
[01:00:26] universities and uh they want to keep
[01:00:28] Turning Point going. They think they can
[01:00:30] do it. He had a very good staff. I
[01:00:31] noticed, you know, Charlie would call me
[01:00:33] up. I'm president of the United States.
[01:00:35] And I get a call like a day before, sir,
[01:00:38] could you come to Arizona tomorrow? I
[01:00:40] said, Charlie, I'm president. I can't
[01:00:43] just come. He said, it's so important.
[01:00:45] Could you usually try and get there,
[01:00:48] right? He's the only one.
[01:00:49] >> 20,000.
[01:00:50] >> He was he was such a great guy that he
[01:00:52] had to end this way. But, you know, in
[01:00:54] many ways, he's bigger now because of
[01:00:57] what happened. He was he was really big,
[01:01:00] important, and I guess this doesn't help
[01:01:02] his family very much. when I say this
[01:01:04] but in terms of you know very very
[01:01:07] important getting that such a good word
[01:01:09] such a solid word you know we have so
[01:01:10] many bad people so many bad philosophies
[01:01:13] ideologies uh politics his was basically
[01:01:17] just good family he talked about family
[01:01:20] talked about get married go get married
[01:01:23] you know sounds oldfashioned when you
[01:01:25] think about it but he's right he was
[01:01:27] just he was just on and it's a shame
[01:01:31] that that voice has been stopped
[01:01:36] Um, I was going through my text with
[01:01:38] Charlie yesterday and um, he had sent me
[01:01:42] back in December a picture of his
[01:01:43] newborn son as we were having some
[01:01:45] conversations about things we could do
[01:01:46] together. That's who Charlie was. And
[01:01:49] those values came out of him. When you
[01:01:52] when you look at even at pictures of
[01:01:53] Charlie or videos of Charlie, he's
[01:01:55] always smiling, right? He's always
[01:01:56] upbeat. He's always energetic. He's
[01:01:58] always optimistic. A light went out of
[01:02:00] the world. a true light went out of the
[01:02:02] world. And in order for that light to be
[01:02:05] rekindled in any shape, I mean, in order
[01:02:09] for that torch that he was carrying to
[01:02:12] generate the same amount of light,
[01:02:13] millions of people are going to have to
[01:02:14] pick up a match and hold it up. And some
[01:02:16] of those matches will become torches
[01:02:17] themselves. But that's the only way to
[01:02:19] spread the light that that Charlie Kirk
[01:02:21] really was. and the people who are who
[01:02:24] are smearing his memory, the people who
[01:02:26] are part of movements that make the
[01:02:28] world worse, those people do need to be
[01:02:32] defeated. They need to be defeated and
[01:02:34] people need to speak out against that.
[01:02:36] They need to debate it. They need to
[01:02:37] discuss it. They need to they need to
[01:02:38] point out that these people are wrong
[01:02:40] and those movements are bad and those
[01:02:41] movements are horrible for America. And
[01:02:43] what Charlie stood for more than
[01:02:45] anything else was a non-victim
[01:02:46] mentality.
[01:02:48] He stood for the prospect that any
[01:02:49] American, even one who never went to
[01:02:51] college, could start an organization
[01:02:53] that became the most important political
[01:02:54] organization in the country and become
[01:02:56] the the confidants of the president and
[01:02:58] vice presidents of the United States at
[01:02:59] the age of 31.
[01:03:01] And that's the thing that that Charlie
[01:03:03] stood for that that if you make the
[01:03:04] right decisions, you get married, you
[01:03:05] have kids, you find religion, you find
[01:03:07] God, you spend time in your relationship
[01:03:09] with God, that your life will get
[01:03:10] better. That is the thing that Charlie
[01:03:12] stood for.
[01:03:14] President Trump talked yesterday about
[01:03:16] attend or this morning rather about
[01:03:17] attending Charlie's funeral. Again, the
[01:03:19] date has not yet been released for
[01:03:20] Charlie's funeral. I assume it will be
[01:03:22] sometime next week. Uh he suggests maybe
[01:03:24] next weekend.
[01:03:28] Here here's even talking about Charlie's
[01:03:30] funeral is just I keep using the word
[01:03:33] unthinkable because it is it does not
[01:03:34] compute. Does not compute.
[01:03:38] Here's the president.
[01:03:40] And I also go to a funeral for a great
[01:03:43] gentleman.
[01:03:43] >> Yes.
[01:03:44] >> Named Charlie Kirk
[01:03:46] >> who should not be having a funeral right
[01:03:48] now. He should be out there in front of
[01:03:50] people. He loved doing it. He was so
[01:03:52] good at it. And I mean, he had a big
[01:03:54] impact on the election. You know, I won
[01:03:56] I got so many young voters that no
[01:03:59] Republicans ever gotten anything close.
[01:04:02] I I dominated with young people and it's
[01:04:05] never happened before. And I give him so
[01:04:07] much credit.
[01:04:11] Yes. Well, that that is for sure true.
[01:04:15] You know, we will we'll obviously keep
[01:04:17] tabs as more information emerges on the
[01:04:20] shooter and the ideology that drove that
[01:04:22] shooter,
[01:04:24] for the moment,
[01:04:26] and for the rest of our lives, hug your
[01:04:29] family. Recognize that what makes this
[01:04:31] country great, what makes this country
[01:04:33] good is the stuff that Charlie was
[01:04:36] doing. and then pick up that match or
[01:04:38] pick up a torch and carry it on.
[01:04:43] We'll see you here a little bit later
[01:04:44] today if there are more updates. If not,
[01:04:45] we'll see you here next week. Say a
[01:04:48] prayer for Charlie. Say a prayer for
[01:04:50] Charlie's family. And say a prayer for
[01:04:52] our country.
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