Rupert Lowe Warns of the Globalist Agenda Destroying the West and the Revolution Soon to Come

[00:00:00] Thank you for doing this. Uh so the [00:00:02] similarities between the US and Great [00:00:04] Britain are are very obvious, often [00:00:06] remarked upon, but the one I notice the [00:00:08] most is whenever you talk to people [00:00:10] here, they say exactly what people in [00:00:12] the US say, which is nothing changes. It [00:00:14] doesn't matter if you vote for Boris [00:00:16] Johnson or Rishi Sunnac or Kier Starmer, [00:00:19] you know, different parties, Tory Labor, [00:00:23] same result. What is that? Well, I I [00:00:26] think Tucker, it's basically it's our [00:00:29] democracy's gone badly wrong. So, uh [00:00:32] what what happened is we are the mother [00:00:34] of all parliaments and we effectively [00:00:36] were the the genesis of of true [00:00:38] democracy. I mean, forget the Greeks for [00:00:40] now, but let's let let's just say we we [00:00:42] we are modern democracy. We [00:00:44] >> democracy at scale. Athenian democracy [00:00:46] was tiny. [00:00:47] >> Yeah. But this is democracy at scale. [00:00:48] So, they but they had the right concept, [00:00:50] I think. And there's some great, you [00:00:52] know, great philosophers from from from [00:00:54] that era. But I think our parliament was [00:00:58] structured so that you had MPs elected [00:01:02] by the people and they were effectively [00:01:04] the people's representatives. So that [00:01:05] the job of parliament was ultimately to [00:01:09] uh put the interests of the British [00:01:11] nation first. Uh make decisions uh that [00:01:14] was first of all and above everything [00:01:16] else in the interests of the nation. But [00:01:19] at the same time there were internal [00:01:21] rivalries about regional uh competition [00:01:24] between each of those MPs to try and do [00:01:26] the best for their constituency as well. [00:01:29] But most of them were in some way [00:01:31] invested in the in Britain. They [00:01:33] [clears throat] were landowners. They [00:01:34] were businessmen. They were peers. They [00:01:37] were aristo aristocrats. They actually [00:01:39] had a big shareholding if you like in UK [00:01:43] plc. And you know I look at prime [00:01:46] ministers like Lord Ssbury and I look at [00:01:48] you know men who made great decisions [00:01:50] and obviously we can talk about [00:01:52] Churchill we can talk about the great [00:01:53] leaders Maggie Thatcher who I loved. Uh [00:01:55] we we can talk about great leaders, but [00:01:57] I think what's gone badly wrong, and [00:01:59] this is why I've set up a movement, not [00:02:02] a party, to unite common sense thought, [00:02:05] and to allow those people who share the [00:02:08] view you've just outlined, that that it [00:02:10] doesn't matter who [clears throat] you [00:02:11] vote for, the smalus board of [00:02:13] opportunities that you've got at the [00:02:14] moment, whether it's the Tories, whether [00:02:16] it's Labour, whether it's the Lib Dems, [00:02:18] whether it's the Greens, whether it's [00:02:19] the Scottish National Party, whoever, [00:02:21] they're all part of this dying [00:02:24] uh sort of remnant of what was [00:02:26] parliament. So I I think we've got to [00:02:28] have some form of what in geological [00:02:31] terms uh uh rejuvenation and uplift uh [00:02:35] uh uh to change uh the way in which [00:02:38] we're governed and make sure that we [00:02:40] reempower the MPs, the elected [00:02:43] representatives of the people and we [00:02:45] disempower the people who run [00:02:48] parliament, the quangos, the unelected [00:02:51] civil servants who are largely [00:02:53] represented by the permanent [00:02:54] secretaries, many of whom I now see on [00:02:56] the public accounts committee. Uh the [00:02:59] country uh Tucker is just run by people [00:03:03] who don't know which way is up. So we've [00:03:06] got a dying body of productive Brits who [00:03:10] I have the greatest admiration for who [00:03:12] who really fight all this regulation, [00:03:14] this red tape, uh all of the oppression [00:03:17] of government, of licensing, of [00:03:19] regulations, of rules. They fight their [00:03:21] way through all this, not to mention [00:03:23] huge taxes which will probably increase [00:03:25] dramatically tomorrow uh in order to uh [00:03:29] basically debit the productive and [00:03:31] credit the indolent uh the most [00:03:33] extraordinary sort of um uh uh uh [00:03:35] formula which which is doomed to [00:03:37] failure. But so I think I think we need [00:03:41] uh the people uh who ultimately care [00:03:44] about the country to rise up. Now, I [00:03:47] don't think the way in which our [00:03:49] government is structured is ever going [00:03:51] to serve them well. So, all they will do [00:03:54] is go around crying into their beer [00:03:56] about the fact that they voted for, as [00:03:58] you say, Rishi Sunnak or they voted for [00:04:00] Kama [00:04:02] and they're all the same. There's [00:04:03] there's no real difference. [00:04:04] >> I don't think you're overstating it. I [00:04:06] mean, look at their priorities. are both [00:04:08] totally dis I'm an outsider but I'm just [00:04:10] watching this from thousands of miles [00:04:12] away but they seem totally disconnected [00:04:14] from the actual country [00:04:16] >> what happens here what it's like what it [00:04:18] looks like who lives here they don't [00:04:20] seem interested at all [00:04:22] >> well I think what's happened is [00:04:23] parliament as I say when it whereas it [00:04:25] was elected by the people and it its [00:04:28] interests were aligned with the people [00:04:29] now parliament and the MPs an an MP [00:04:33] earns about £92,000 a year something [00:04:35] like that I actually give high salary to [00:04:37] charity. Each month I give it to a great [00:04:39] Yarmouth charity. Um but I think a lot [00:04:42] of the MPs need that money. So they've [00:04:44] they've become they've become dependent [00:04:47] on that. Uh they've obviously got status [00:04:49] as an MP. Uh they they there's a lot of [00:04:53] talk goes on in parliament. there's a [00:04:54] lot of sort of, you know, video calls [00:04:56] and and and meetings in room P and, you [00:04:59] know, all all sorts of stuff goes on and [00:05:02] people feel important, but actually, are [00:05:04] they delivering for the people? I I [00:05:06] would argue they're not. So, uh, I I I [00:05:09] think we've got to have some form of [00:05:12] massive change. And I, you know, I I [00:05:15] watch what's happening in the US and I [00:05:18] think we need some help from the US. I I [00:05:21] think I think what's happening uh with [00:05:24] Donald Trump and with with with JD Vance [00:05:27] and and with with with Rubio, I I mean, [00:05:29] you've got some great people who are [00:05:31] really trying to change uh the way [00:05:33] things are going. I I think I blame you [00:05:35] partly for infecting us with this DEI [00:05:39] nonsense and all the other stuff that is [00:05:41] is is seeping into the veins of Britain, [00:05:43] but I think you've realized that that's [00:05:45] not the way forward. That's not how [00:05:47] we're going to get the quality of life [00:05:48] and the common sense and the logic and [00:05:50] the fairness that we used to have. We've [00:05:53] got to expunge all that. And the only [00:05:55] way we're going to do that is by very [00:05:57] strong people standing up and actually [00:05:58] affecting change. And I, you know, I [00:06:01] reflect on the US a lot because as you [00:06:06] probably know that there was a man [00:06:07] called John Lambert who uh played a part [00:06:10] in the civil war. Cromwell, Oliver [00:06:11] Cromwell is one of my great historical [00:06:13] heroes. [00:06:13] >> Your civil war [00:06:14] >> in in the British civil war. Yeah. He [00:06:16] and Henry Arson when when when Croml won [00:06:18] the Civil War, [00:06:20] >> he said he always said if if I lose one [00:06:23] battle, I lose my head. The king can [00:06:24] lose a hundred battles and he keeps his. [00:06:26] Well, he didn't fortunately lose a [00:06:27] battle and he won the civil war. And [00:06:29] then they had to work out how to govern. [00:06:31] And uh this guy John Lambert and Henry [00:06:34] Arton wrote this thing uh this this [00:06:36] paper uh uh which ultimately guided uh [00:06:40] uh it was called the instrument of power [00:06:42] and its job was to effectively separate [00:06:46] the powers that Cromwell was going to [00:06:47] have as Lord Protector and put in the [00:06:49] checks and balances which is what you [00:06:50] need in any any form of uh democracy [00:06:53] proper checks and balances that controls [00:06:56] uh uh any sort of aggregation of power [00:06:59] which can be damaging. need some power [00:07:01] but you don't want anybody to become [00:07:03] omnipotent and he this was this is an an [00:07:06] incredible piece of work which was then [00:07:08] used in our bill of rights and then some [00:07:10] of it was lifted by by by your founding [00:07:12] fathers Jefferson Madison Adams and Jay [00:07:14] who who effectively played a big part in [00:07:17] in writing the US constitution which is [00:07:19] is the best uh I think uh attempt at [00:07:23] setting out uh uh uh a a sort of code [00:07:27] for governance uh which always return [00:07:30] power to the individual states and to [00:07:32] the individual because it's always the [00:07:34] individual who gets oppressed by the [00:07:36] state. Uh and and here we've got a a [00:07:40] state that now accounts for 50% of our [00:07:41] GDP. Uh we've got, as I say, all these [00:07:46] quangos, unaccountable people who are [00:07:48] doing things which are damaging the [00:07:50] interests of Britain, aggregating money [00:07:52] and influence to themselves, but [00:07:55] damaging the interests of those people [00:07:57] they're supposed to be serving. You [00:07:58] know, they're called civil servants for [00:08:00] a reason and that's their job. [00:08:02] >> Christmas season is here and although [00:08:03] it's a bit of a cliche, it really is [00:08:05] important to keep Christ in Christmas. [00:08:07] Should we focus on cookies and presents [00:08:09] or on the reason we're doing this, which [00:08:12] is Jesus, obviously the point is Jesus. [00:08:15] That's the whole point. That's the only [00:08:17] point. And all the decency and good [00:08:19] cheer of this holiday comes [music] from [00:08:22] Jesus. 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Get 3 months for free at [00:09:06] hallow.com/tucker. [00:09:08] Experience greater peace and stillness [00:09:10] this Christmas. One of the maybe the [00:09:12] biggest factor scrambling every one of [00:09:14] these calculations and eliminating the [00:09:16] historical knowledge that you just [00:09:18] displayed is mass migration. This is [00:09:20] very true in the United States as well. [00:09:21] It's not just here. It's throughout the [00:09:23] West. [00:09:24] But what is that? That is the one thing [00:09:28] that I notice as a foreigner coming here [00:09:30] that does not change regardless of who's [00:09:32] in power is this constant churn in [00:09:35] population. Millions of new people. [00:09:37] There's never been any indication that [00:09:39] Native Britain want that. No Native [00:09:42] Americans, you know, no one in the [00:09:44] United States wants that. We've gotten [00:09:45] it anyway. In my country, they used to [00:09:47] say, "We need to do this for economic [00:09:49] reasons. We need the labor." They don't [00:09:52] say that anymore. No one explains why [00:09:53] this is happening. Why is it happening [00:09:54] here? What's your guess? [00:09:55] >> Well, I think the essence of immigration [00:09:57] is that targeted immigration is good. So [00:10:00] if you if you have a a leadership of the [00:10:02] country that can identify where skills [00:10:04] are short [00:10:05] >> and you can actually attract people [00:10:07] who've got those skills who are going to [00:10:09] contribute to the economy and actually [00:10:10] >> we have no dentists. Let's import some [00:10:11] dentist. [00:10:12] >> Exactly. Exactly. But but you need to [00:10:13] have a you need to have a leadership [00:10:15] who's capable of identifying where the [00:10:17] shortages are. Uh and and and that's [00:10:20] good immigration. It's it's targeted. [00:10:23] It's it's small and it basically [00:10:25] improves the standard of living and the [00:10:27] quality of life for the people in the [00:10:29] country. [00:10:29] >> Is that happening here now? [00:10:31] >> No. I I I was just going to go on to say [00:10:32] that what's happened here is it's [00:10:34] actually been turned on its head. So [00:10:36] what we're doing is we are allowing [00:10:38] millions or hundreds of thousands of [00:10:40] illegal migrants from different cultures [00:10:43] to arrive by boat. And really since [00:10:46] since the war we've also brought in uh [00:10:49] lots of legal migrants who have in some [00:10:52] cases contributed but in many cases they [00:10:54] still haven't integrated into what [00:10:56] Britain is and what you know we are a [00:10:59] Christian country. We are we have our [00:11:01] history we have our roots and now we've [00:11:03] got sort of pools of of of people from a [00:11:06] different culture with a different [00:11:07] belief and a different uh a different [00:11:10] sort of outlook on life and that's [00:11:12] getting worse. So we are now and you're [00:11:15] seeing this we're now seeing our best [00:11:18] people leaving Britain. So the rain [00:11:20] makers are leaving in huge numbers now. [00:11:23] Uh the nondons who used to be here are [00:11:26] now have been uh taxed uh uh and they're [00:11:29] leaving. They don't have to be here. As [00:11:31] you know in the modern world you can [00:11:33] basically do a job from almost anywhere [00:11:35] in the world. And and what you have to [00:11:37] do is create the conditions where people [00:11:38] want to live somewhere. And 10, 15, 20 [00:11:41] years ago, everybody wanted to be in [00:11:43] London. You know, when I was young, [00:11:44] London was the place to be because it [00:11:46] was deregulated. It was fun. Uh, you [00:11:49] know, people actually could generate [00:11:51] wealth. You didn't have too much [00:11:53] oppressive regulation and statism. And [00:11:56] gradually, it's been strangled a bit [00:11:57] like Guliva. So, I think a lot of people [00:12:00] and a lot of my friends are leaving. [00:12:01] They're going to live in Dubai. They're [00:12:02] going to live in in in in Milan. They're [00:12:05] going to live in [00:12:05] >> Montenegro. [00:12:07] >> Could be Montenegro. It could be it [00:12:09] could be almost Maitius. It could be [00:12:10] almost anywhere. We we we just sent a [00:12:12] whole load of English money out to [00:12:13] Maitius. I mean, they're getting tax [00:12:15] cuts out there. So, you know, we've [00:12:16] given the Chaos Islands away uh when we [00:12:19] didn't need to. We we we've sort of uh I [00:12:21] I think um [00:12:22] >> Maitius is an island in the Indian Ocean [00:12:24] far far far away. [00:12:26] >> Maitius is an island in the Indian [00:12:27] Ocean, but the Chaos Islands uh [00:12:29] basically a lot of Chagosians live in [00:12:31] Crawley here and they didn't want us to [00:12:35] they didn't want to be part of Maitius. [00:12:36] They they they and what what's happened [00:12:38] is K star and Herma and Philipe Sanss [00:12:41] this sort of bunch of human rights [00:12:43] lawyers uh you may or may not know the [00:12:45] history we actually paid Maitius some [00:12:47] money in 1963 when when we gave her [00:12:50] independence [00:12:51] that so she had no claim on the Chaos [00:12:53] Islands arguably arguably the se shells [00:12:56] and the Maldes have a bigger claim on [00:12:58] the Chaos Islands that are 1300 [00:13:00] kilometers away from Maitius but these [00:13:03] human rights lawyers have indulged their [00:13:05] fantasies And at the expense of the [00:13:07] British taxpayer, I mean, we don't quite [00:13:08] know what the number is. It's somewhere [00:13:10] between 18 and 30 billion over the next [00:13:12] 90 years. We've literally handed that to [00:13:15] Maitius who've now given a tax cut to [00:13:17] their citizens on the back of it. [00:13:19] >> Have you committed a lot of atrocities [00:13:21] in Maitius? Why why would you owe them [00:13:23] billions of dollars? [00:13:23] >> Talk about the Diego Garcia base. [00:13:25] >> I'm no I I know the actual story. [00:13:27] >> So So the Chagosians, a lot of them live [00:13:30] in Crawley here. So uh you know, they [00:13:32] they didn't want the the deal to happen. [00:13:35] They they they they basically don't like [00:13:37] the militians. [00:13:38] >> But if you take three steps back, like [00:13:40] why would you do that? You would only do [00:13:41] that if you hate yourself. There's no [00:13:44] potential for gain at all for you, your [00:13:46] children, your country. What What is [00:13:49] that? [00:13:49] >> Well, I think a lot of them do dislike [00:13:51] what Britain was. I think they have this [00:13:54] sort of hatred of of of colonial [00:13:56] Britain, which I mean, if you have a a [00:13:58] hatred of any form of colonialism, you [00:14:00] have to have a hatred of the Belgian uh [00:14:02] uh uh a sort of colonization of the [00:14:04] Congo empire [00:14:06] >> or even France's occupation of of of of [00:14:09] North Africa. So, they still occupy [00:14:11] Africa to this day. [00:14:12] >> They do. No, no, they do. They do. I I [00:14:15] Yeah, absolutely. But I I think I think [00:14:17] no I Britain may have done some things [00:14:20] that that weren't great. But on the [00:14:21] whole we've I think been a force for [00:14:23] good. We've left you know sound legal [00:14:26] systems in India. We've we've done [00:14:29] [clears throat] good things not bad [00:14:30] things. We voluntarily ended the slave [00:14:32] trade. Uh you know we we actually cost [00:14:34] us a lot of money. The British Navy was [00:14:36] was used to police the the the the the [00:14:39] cessation of the of the slave trade. So [00:14:41] I feel very proud of Britain. I love [00:14:42] Britain. And I think I think these [00:14:44] people these these human rights lawyers [00:14:47] I actually despise them, Tucker. I I [00:14:49] think they're the enemy of Britain. And [00:14:51] I don't understand what motivates them. [00:14:53] Well, so that's that's it. It's clearly [00:14:55] not a hatred of colonialism because [00:14:57] Africa has been colonized at a scale [00:14:59] never before seen by China. And they [00:15:01] won't say a single word about that. I [00:15:03] mean, colonialism will never end. The [00:15:05] weak dominating the strong is just a [00:15:06] feature of life. It's sad, but it's [00:15:08] that's what it is. They're not mad about [00:15:10] that. They're only mad about the west. [00:15:13] >> Well, in the end, history will tell you [00:15:15] that we always return to rail politique [00:15:17] and rail politique is basically uh power [00:15:21] power ultimately dictates what happens [00:15:23] course [00:15:23] >> and as you say that's happening. China [00:15:25] is very cleverly positioning herself you [00:15:28] know in in countries which are [00:15:30] struggling for money obviously in Africa [00:15:32] I mean her tentacles are going almost [00:15:33] everywhere and you know I I I think I [00:15:36] think China in a way is an extraordinary [00:15:40] economy because you've got this you've [00:15:42] got this extraordinary relationship [00:15:43] between uh communism and and and [00:15:46] [clears throat] [00:15:47] their capitalism which Deng tried to to [00:15:49] to introduce which has generated a sort [00:15:52] of class of people who and the Chinese [00:15:54] are enterprising people who have [00:15:56] generated wealth. But then, you know, [00:15:58] you've also got this communist block and [00:16:00] I visited um when I was chairman of [00:16:03] Southampton, I visited Ching Dao where [00:16:04] we we were Southampton's twinned with [00:16:07] Ching Dao and it's an extraordinary uh [00:16:11] sort of relationship. So very much the [00:16:13] the capitalist is is is effectively uh [00:16:17] uh uh in hawk to the to the to the [00:16:20] communists. So they they control [00:16:22] everything. And if you look at what [00:16:23] happened to Jack Maher, I mean he he he [00:16:25] built an incredibly successful business [00:16:26] in Alibaba. So I think that their blend [00:16:29] of communism and capitalism which if you [00:16:32] dig deep you all their state enterprises [00:16:34] are incredibly uh uh indebted and almost [00:16:37] bankrupt. Uh so I don't think her model [00:16:40] is sustainable. [00:16:42] Meanwhile, she's generated or or huge [00:16:45] amounts of of foreign exchange from [00:16:48] effectively uh if you like she's [00:16:51] undercut a lot of the the western cap [00:16:54] capitalists [00:16:56] uh in solar panels and in other things [00:16:58] and she's running huge trade surpluses [00:17:01] even if internally her finances aren't [00:17:03] great. So I I I don't think her model is [00:17:07] a sound model. Uh I I I I think she is [00:17:12] actually quite a dangerous influence. [00:17:14] She she I think bears a very long [00:17:18] memory. Uh she never forgets uh what's [00:17:21] been done to her in the past and and and [00:17:23] I read an interesting book the other day [00:17:25] uh by Colin Thubon called the Amma [00:17:27] River. I don't know if you've read about [00:17:28] the Amma River runs through Mongolia [00:17:30] >> and it's the history of the relationship [00:17:32] between Russia and China. It's it's a [00:17:34] very good book to read, but she never [00:17:35] forgets when people breach treaties. [00:17:38] It may not happen tomorrow, but it's [00:17:40] logged and she remembers [00:17:42] >> sell opium to her. [00:17:42] >> And we've done a few things. We've done [00:17:44] a few things that she won't have liked [00:17:46] historically. So, I think we've got to [00:17:47] be very wary of China. [00:17:49] >> Um I'm I'm in favor of basically [00:17:52] liberating [00:17:54] uh what I see as one of the best and [00:17:56] most creative economies in the world, [00:17:58] which is Britain. And [clears throat] if [00:18:00] we can cut away all of the regulations, [00:18:03] I mean when I was young and I worked in [00:18:04] the city, London was the almost the [00:18:08] primary center. We had the Euro bomb [00:18:10] market. We had a hugely powerful stock [00:18:12] market. You know, we we were raising [00:18:14] money all over for people all over the [00:18:16] world. Everybody wanted to be in London. [00:18:18] Gradually the regulatory uh uh uh and [00:18:22] again you have to blame Tony Blair for a [00:18:24] lot of this stuff. A lot of the [00:18:25] regulatory legislation, it was called [00:18:26] the financial services market act 2000 [00:18:29] that basically tied the city down and it [00:18:32] started this overregulation. [00:18:34] >> Yeah. [00:18:34] >> Which has meant that London is now a [00:18:36] shadow of its former self. So we don't [00:18:39] have we don't have a position I mean [00:18:40] NASDAQ has has flown on the back of [00:18:43] London's failure. Uh you still have a [00:18:46] much more uh capitalistic approach to [00:18:49] your financial markets. Ours are now so [00:18:52] regulated that they've become [00:18:54] [clears throat] arguably uh more [00:18:56] interested in protecting the value of of [00:18:59] of people's pensions than they have in [00:19:02] matching risk capital with [00:19:04] entrepreneurs, which is what they should [00:19:05] be doing. [00:19:06] >> They feminized your finance. No, I' I've [00:19:08] watched. So, but what does that mean? [00:19:10] So, what is the the British economy now? [00:19:13] >> Well, I think the British economy is in [00:19:15] pretty bad shape. I mean, [00:19:17] >> I don't even know what it is. I mean, I [00:19:18] thought it was it was manufacturing, [00:19:20] obviously, greatest manufacturing power [00:19:22] in the world and the greatest goods in [00:19:23] the world still like 100 years later. [00:19:26] That's remarkable how well they're made. [00:19:28] >> Well, it's a service industry, a lot of [00:19:29] it, as you know. [00:19:30] >> Okay. But [00:19:31] >> and Jimmy Goldmith talked about this. I [00:19:32] mean, we Jimmy Goldmith, great man. He [00:19:34] saved the pan through the through [00:19:35] referendum party where the other the [00:19:37] parties promised. He doesn't ever get [00:19:39] enough credit for it. [00:19:40] >> Um, so he spoke very well about this. uh [00:19:44] and it was happening in the '9s really [00:19:45] when we were uh outsourcing our [00:19:49] manufacturing to cheap labor countries [00:19:52] and he forecast what would happen which [00:19:53] is that we would become a dependency [00:19:56] culture rather than a culture of of [00:19:59] innovation because actually when you've [00:20:02] got your factories in different parts of [00:20:04] the world it's there that the innovation [00:20:06] takes place [00:20:07] >> it doesn't take place in the consuming [00:20:09] nations so I think I think what's [00:20:11] happened is we've gradually been party [00:20:14] or our our leaders have to closing down [00:20:17] our economy, damaging the interests of [00:20:19] the British people. But the British [00:20:21] people are still incredibly creative. I [00:20:23] have every faith in their ability if [00:20:26] they're cut free. 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[00:21:49] And they're continuing, by the way, to [00:21:50] change the population dramatically every [00:21:52] year. So like the calculation changes [00:21:54] every year as does the culture, etc. But [00:21:58] I don't think you have an election. I [00:22:00] think Labor's in charge until 29 unless [00:22:02] I'm missing. [00:22:03] >> Labor's in charge till 29. But I think [00:22:05] the Achilles heel there possibly is the [00:22:08] economy. So you you talked about what is [00:22:10] the British economy? The British economy [00:22:12] is as you know it's as has as as as the [00:22:16] American economy was relied on something [00:22:18] I hate called quantitative easing which [00:22:20] is basically getting high on your own [00:22:22] suppliers. I [00:22:24] >> it's it's basically what third world [00:22:26] dictators used to do shortly before [00:22:27] their currencies descended into chaos. [00:22:29] But because you've got this sort of [00:22:32] manufacturing taking place in one part [00:22:34] of the world and the consumption in [00:22:36] another part of the world, they've been [00:22:37] able to get away with it so far, but [00:22:39] it's still further hollowed out [00:22:41] productive Britain. So I I I'm very [00:22:44] worried about our level of debt. You [00:22:45] know, we're looking at a level of debt [00:22:47] of around 100% of our GDP. Our civil [00:22:50] service pensions are off balance sheet [00:22:53] and there's another we don't know the [00:22:55] exact number somewhere between three and [00:22:57] five trillion maybe a bit more which is [00:23:00] probably 200% of GDP that's not even on [00:23:02] the balance sheet. Uh we have this [00:23:04] accounting system called Oscar 2 which I [00:23:07] think is probably delusional in that it [00:23:09] leaves off chunks of liability and [00:23:11] probably enhances chunks of of the asset [00:23:13] side of the balance sheet. Uh so I think [00:23:16] we're delusional. I I'm just waiting for [00:23:18] our currency to collapse. And I think [00:23:20] when you say there's not going to be an [00:23:21] election or 29, we have the budget [00:23:24] tomorrow where Rachel Reeves who seems [00:23:26] to believe that she can tax herself into [00:23:28] wealth and prosperity which nobody's [00:23:31] ever done in history before. And I I [00:23:32] certainly [00:23:32] >> Who's Rachel Reeves? [00:23:33] >> She's our chancellor of the excheer. [00:23:35] >> Do what's her background? Pretty [00:23:37] impressive person. Well, she's variously [00:23:39] she's Rachel from accounts or Rachel [00:23:41] from complaints or she told a few [00:23:44] porkies about her CV, which she she [00:23:46] seems to have got away with that as did [00:23:48] a number of other Labour MPs. [00:23:49] Apparently, it's okay to embellish your [00:23:51] CV these days and and and nobody seems [00:23:53] to care. [00:23:54] >> But you're not aware of any material [00:23:56] accomplishments in her past. [00:23:57] >> Very, very few. I mean, she's not [00:23:59] qualified to be doing what she's doing, [00:24:01] but she's an incredibly she's incredibly [00:24:04] uh arrogant. I think there there's a [00:24:06] blend of arrogant and arrogance and [00:24:08] ignorance which is always dangerous. [00:24:09] >> We have that in our country. [laughter] [00:24:11] >> So I think I think that the Achilles [00:24:14] heel is if the economy starts to really [00:24:16] go into reverse which I think from my [00:24:19] businesses we're beginning to see orders [00:24:21] slow uh the sort of carryover from the [00:24:24] COVID money injections and from you know [00:24:27] what the tries did in in their latter [00:24:30] days which kept the economy going to [00:24:32] some extent. Although Britain Britain's [00:24:35] growth has been sclerotic for a hell of [00:24:37] a long time now. [00:24:38] >> Yeah. [00:24:39] >> So if we start to see a uh a challenge [00:24:44] to our ability to finance finance our [00:24:46] deficits and you probably saw I mean our [00:24:48] deficit is just out of control. So um [00:24:51] you know it's it's it's going up every [00:24:53] year and in the end if you have a [00:24:55] deficit you got to finance it. So uh I [00:24:59] always think the definition of of of [00:25:01] credit is suspicion of sleep. So in the [00:25:03] end people who borrow or fund our debt [00:25:08] buy our guilts if you like at the moment [00:25:10] they demand a premium uh in terms of [00:25:12] income over other people's debts over [00:25:15] the US debt or German debt. [00:25:17] >> So eventually what they do is they [00:25:19] decide they don't want to buy that debt [00:25:21] and then you can't fund yourself and [00:25:23] then you have a funding crisis a bit [00:25:24] like we had in in the mid70s. [00:25:27] uh and in in that in those days we went [00:25:29] to the IMF uh and we we we got the IMF [00:25:32] to bail us out. I'm not sure that the [00:25:34] IMF would come and bail us out at the [00:25:37] moment because I don't think an economy [00:25:40] which basically robs the productive to [00:25:44] fund the indolent uh and to fund [00:25:46] welfare. I I don't think the IMF would [00:25:49] put up with that. So [00:25:50] >> I'm I'm confused. So you're describing a [00:25:52] country on the very brink of bankruptcy [00:25:54] in solving [00:25:54] >> I think we're very close to it. But [00:25:56] you're still importing hundreds of [00:25:58] thousands of people every year as asylum [00:26:01] seekers as if you're a global empire [00:26:03] that can just like spend money with [00:26:04] >> I don't call them asylum seekers cuz [00:26:06] majority of them aren't. They're [00:26:07] economic migrants. [00:26:08] >> Well, whatever they are. [00:26:09] >> So that's a big difference cuz [00:26:11] >> of course, but I don't even understand [00:26:13] how my country is in Southern also. So [00:26:16] I'm not just speaking of Britain, but I [00:26:18] don't understand how any [00:26:19] >> France is probably worse than us if it's [00:26:21] any consolation, Tucker. But I'm not [00:26:23] really interested in a race to the [00:26:24] bottom. France is Europe's Mississippi. [00:26:27] You can always point to them and say [00:26:28] it's worse. But I don't understand how [00:26:30] any country that's on the brink of not [00:26:32] being able to serve its own people can [00:26:35] decide to serve the world. I just don't [00:26:36] get that. [00:26:37] >> Well, this is where we're delusional [00:26:38] because we our own house isn't in order [00:26:41] and we spend our lives worrying about, [00:26:43] you know, what's happening everywhere [00:26:45] else, including sending vast amounts of [00:26:48] money uh overseas in overseas aid. I [00:26:51] mean where the countries that a lot of [00:26:52] these people are coming from, we're [00:26:54] sending them aid. I mean Pakistan for [00:26:56] instance, I think we send 130 uh uh [00:27:00] billion130 million pounds a year to [00:27:02] Pakistan. [00:27:02] >> Why? [00:27:03] >> Just one example. You tell me. Uh and a [00:27:06] lot of the people are coming from [00:27:07] Pakistan. So I I think it's just the [00:27:10] people in power they get they get a kick [00:27:12] like latter day emperors who used to [00:27:14] travel around the world dishing out sort [00:27:16] of uh cash. I I think it gives them a [00:27:19] lot of pleasure to think that they are [00:27:21] these important people dishing out money [00:27:23] we haven't got. [00:27:24] >> Does anyone in London ever go to [00:27:26] Switzerland in the winter to ski or the [00:27:28] south of France in the summer to relax? [00:27:31] I know they do. Do they notice all the [00:27:34] Ukrainians at the Hermes store using [00:27:36] their money to buy handbags for 50 [00:27:39] grand? Like does anyone ever notice [00:27:40] that? [00:27:40] >> I think people have noticed the uh the [00:27:43] Ukrainian money that's flowing into [00:27:45] Monaco in particular. [00:27:46] >> Exactly. So, the number of UK Ukrainian [00:27:49] registered Porsches in in uh uh [00:27:52] Porsches, Aston, whatever in Monaco is [00:27:55] massive. This is a country in the middle [00:27:57] of a four-year long existential war. You [00:28:00] would think people would be poor, but [00:28:02] they're richer than ever. Not the people [00:28:04] of Ukraine, but the people buying Aston [00:28:06] Martins in Monaco and, you know, [00:28:09] spending $10,000 on dinner in Korchal. [00:28:12] That money is your money. My money. Does [00:28:14] anyone care? [00:28:15] >> You and I know that some people make a [00:28:17] lot of money out of war. War works for [00:28:19] some people, [00:28:20] >> but it's not not usually funded by other [00:28:22] people's taxpayer. Like the war [00:28:24] profiteeers are a feature of every war, [00:28:25] of course, but this is this kind of [00:28:27] weird war where [00:28:28] >> Well, I I'm hoping and it looks like [00:28:29] there's some hope that there's been a [00:28:31] breakthrough today uh uh on that front. [00:28:34] I mean, I I I feel for the young men who [00:28:36] are on both sides who are [00:28:37] >> definitely who are need needlessly [00:28:40] losing their lives. It's a bit like in [00:28:42] our first world war, you know, we [00:28:44] >> we I I lost relations in the first and [00:28:46] second world war, but I mean th those [00:28:48] people if they looked at Britain today [00:28:50] or they looked at America today, would [00:28:51] would would they be prepared to give [00:28:53] their lives as they did so valiantly in [00:28:56] in the trenches in in in the U in um in [00:28:59] Europe and and and you know, Gallipoli [00:29:01] and other parts of the world. I I and [00:29:03] many of them some of them were American [00:29:05] people, [00:29:06] >> including relatives of mine. Yes, I I [00:29:08] absolutely [00:29:08] >> So would they feel comfortable? I'm not [00:29:10] sure they would. And I I think, you [00:29:12] know, I think the I've always thought [00:29:14] that an important element of what made [00:29:17] certainly the US and and the UK [00:29:19] successful was this Protestant ethic, [00:29:21] this ethic of of working hard, of [00:29:24] contributing, of uh being part of [00:29:27] something which is basically driven in [00:29:29] order to create a better community. Yes. [00:29:31] And I think we've lost that ethic and [00:29:33] and and we've we've now lost sight of [00:29:36] what we are. And some somehow we've got [00:29:38] to get that back. And if we don't get [00:29:39] that back, I I don't think I don't think [00:29:42] the outlook is very is very optimistic. [00:29:44] I I think it's it's not going to be good [00:29:46] news. [00:29:46] >> How do you get that back? [00:29:48] >> Well, we've we're trying with Restore [00:29:50] Britain. We we we we see a movement as [00:29:52] being the key. So the only way to I [00:29:56] think show the sclerotic dying organs of [00:30:01] power that they need to change what [00:30:04] they're doing is for a mass movement to [00:30:07] grow spontaneously which we are seeing. [00:30:10] I mean our social media recently has [00:30:12] gone uh stratospheric uh and I think uh [00:30:17] people can see that we are trying our [00:30:19] best to highlight the deficiencies uh in [00:30:22] parliament. That's why it's so important [00:30:23] to be in parliament because we're able [00:30:25] to actually from inside expose exactly [00:30:28] how deficient it all is. And then with [00:30:31] social media and and thanks to Elon Musk [00:30:34] uh you know we actually have now got I [00:30:37] think a far better freer more functional [00:30:40] platform to uh get the message of what's [00:30:44] happening out and actually as you know [00:30:46] transparency is the best cleanser of any [00:30:50] system. a transparent sort of look at [00:30:53] what's going on, which is why very often [00:30:54] a lot of these uh uh administrations try [00:30:58] and keep things as closed down as [00:31:00] possible. I'm always a great believer [00:31:02] in, you know, if it's transparent and [00:31:04] open, it it usually functions a lot [00:31:06] better. So, I I mean, look, I we we we [00:31:10] haven't got long to do this and I think [00:31:12] the people, if they agree with us, need [00:31:14] to now show that they agree and actually [00:31:16] do something about it. And I I say to my [00:31:18] friends I and I, you know, they they've [00:31:21] had life too good. Uh they have they [00:31:23] have leveraged off the back of the [00:31:25] people who did fight in the war, who did [00:31:27] create this post-war uh respect for the [00:31:32] US, for the UK, for the winners, for the [00:31:34] Anglo-Saxon [00:31:35] uh uh sort of um alliance. [00:31:39] And in that I obviously include New [00:31:40] Zealand and Australia and and and and [00:31:43] India to some extent, other parts of of [00:31:44] of of the world who fought for freedom. [00:31:47] So I think we've got to stand up and be [00:31:49] counted. I I don't think we can all sit [00:31:52] back and think it's going to be okay and [00:31:53] it's somebody else's problem. It's going [00:31:55] to be everybody's problem soon. [00:31:56] December's already here. Felt like it [00:31:57] was just summer the other day. Your life [00:31:59] is moving fast as always. 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Taking migrants and [00:33:16] giving them better lodging, better [00:33:17] conditions than nativeorn Britain, many [00:33:19] of whom are poor, that almost seems [00:33:22] designed to infuriate people. It's too [00:33:24] unfair. [00:33:26] I wonder does it stay peaceful. the [00:33:29] response to that? [00:33:30] >> Well, you you hope it stays uh peaceful [00:33:33] and and legal, but you know, we've seen [00:33:36] and again, we in in in response to the [00:33:38] migrants, of course, they shouldn't be [00:33:40] allowing these people. I mean, we're [00:33:42] quite clear they should be detaining and [00:33:43] they should be deporting all illegal [00:33:45] migrants. Uh uh they are economic [00:33:48] migrants in my view, not asylum seekers. [00:33:50] They've traveled through safe countries. [00:33:51] They have no reason to be here. Uh and [00:33:54] they should be detained and deported uh [00:33:56] straight away. And I think then we turn [00:33:58] our attention to people who have been [00:34:00] brought here legally who aren't [00:34:02] contributing to the country. They also [00:34:04] need to be looked at and we need to [00:34:06] decide how they work. And then we also [00:34:08] need to look at the 9 million people of [00:34:10] working age who aren't contributing to [00:34:12] our society. You know they've been told [00:34:14] it's okay to have mental health issues. [00:34:16] It's okay to you know stay at home not [00:34:18] work. [00:34:19] >> 9 million non-working working [00:34:21] >> 9 million people. And so how could you [00:34:23] justify? [00:34:23] >> We also have these schemes like [00:34:25] motability. I mean the whole country is [00:34:27] basically a fraud if you look at it. So [00:34:30] you know these people get motor cars. I [00:34:32] think I think I'm right in saying 13% of [00:34:34] new car registrations is motability [00:34:36] which basically [00:34:37] >> I'm ignorant of what you're saying. What [00:34:39] is it? [00:34:39] >> Motability is like a sort of scheme. So [00:34:41] if if you've got if you tick enough [00:34:43] boxes you get a car paid for by the [00:34:45] taxpayer three named drivers all the [00:34:48] insurance and every 3 years you change [00:34:50] the car. I mean the whole thing is [00:34:51] complete nonsense. [00:34:52] >> You get a new car every 3 years. [00:34:53] >> Yeah. My friends buy old motivility [00:34:56] moability vehicles when when they've [00:34:58] been used by by these people who are on [00:35:00] benefits. So no I look Tucker there's a [00:35:03] lot wrong and we have to have a society [00:35:06] Britain voted for it. Britain the [00:35:08] British people voted in 2016 despite the [00:35:10] fact the government uh advised them not [00:35:13] to but they voted to take back their [00:35:14] sovereignty from the European Union. [00:35:16] They voted for a British nation state. [00:35:18] right now that a nation state's job is [00:35:21] to protect the interests of its [00:35:23] electorate, its taxpayers, its people [00:35:25] who live here, who contribute, have [00:35:28] contributed historically, who basically [00:35:30] fill in their tax reform, write the [00:35:32] check, work every every hour God gives, [00:35:34] try and bring their families up and try [00:35:37] and lead good lives. That that's what we [00:35:39] should be rewarding. We should not be [00:35:42] rewarding [00:35:43] >> [clears throat] [00:35:43] >> uh an indolent uh lazy culture. But as [00:35:47] you probably know, the socialist sort of [00:35:51] view of life often benefits from a [00:35:54] dependency culture because the people [00:35:55] who are on dependency tend to vote for [00:35:57] more dependency. Uh and and and this is [00:36:00] why I think uh you know the danger in [00:36:03] the in the budget tomorrow is that [00:36:04] Rachel Reeves does lift the two two [00:36:07] child cap. So at the moment, you know, [00:36:08] if if you're on benefits, there's a two [00:36:10] child cap for benefits. She's intending [00:36:13] to lift that and she's then intending to [00:36:15] raise the taxes on productive Britain [00:36:18] who can't afford to probably have more [00:36:20] than two ch children so they can pay for [00:36:22] people who aren't working who want to [00:36:24] have more than two children. So the [00:36:26] whole thing is completely ass about face [00:36:28] and and I don't know how long it can go [00:36:31] on before people do lose their temper. [00:36:34] Hopefully they will join Restore Britain [00:36:37] and give us the platform to be able to [00:36:40] lobby for change and to affect change. [00:36:42] Now I don't think we've got time to wait [00:36:46] and I I do think uh if the economic [00:36:49] conditions turn down very badly, we will [00:36:51] be forced into an election at some stage [00:36:53] and it may be before 29. That's the [00:36:55] Achilles here on the election. [00:36:56] >> Where's the fierce island spirit that [00:36:58] allowed Britains to rule the world? [00:37:00] >> Well, that is a very good question. I [00:37:01] >> I'm not being mean. I'm just being [00:37:03] >> No, I I think it's a very fair question [00:37:04] and I I wonder I mean has everybody had [00:37:08] life too good? Are they prepared to stir [00:37:10] their stumps and actually contribute [00:37:12] because there's no way that a few [00:37:15] valiant people [clears throat] are going [00:37:15] to be able to deliver this? This has to [00:37:17] be a mass movement of entirely. It has [00:37:20] to be a spontaneous movement. I think it [00:37:22] is happening. I think it's beginning. I [00:37:23] think we can see through our social [00:37:25] media. You can see that people are [00:37:27] concerned and I don't think it's a big [00:37:30] jump from being concerned to actually [00:37:33] doing something about it. [00:37:34] >> But how can your average Britain allow [00:37:37] its government to arrest people for [00:37:41] saying naughty words on social media? [00:37:43] Thousands of people every year. [00:37:44] Thousands. [00:37:45] >> How can they allow that? Why don't they [00:37:47] surround parliament like lift it off its [00:37:49] foundations or something? Seriously. [00:37:50] Well, as you and I know, free speech is [00:37:52] the absolute key to a functioning [00:37:55] democracy. [00:37:55] >> You created it. [00:37:57] >> This country created free speech. [00:37:58] >> We create and it's so important to [00:38:00] everything. And uh we we recently had a [00:38:03] debate in parliament because with our [00:38:04] membership now we can we can there's in [00:38:07] parliament you can uh have a debate or [00:38:09] force a debate in Westminster Hall with [00:38:11] 100,000 signatures on on an e petition. [00:38:14] So to your point uh there's there's the [00:38:17] best example of this is probably Lucy [00:38:18] Connley who who who was caught up in the [00:38:21] Southport in the whole the [00:38:23] [clears throat] whole sort of [00:38:25] emotional upheaval of of the the [00:38:27] Southport killings uh uh where three [00:38:30] three young girls were stabbed to death. [00:38:32] Um and I think the country spontaneously [00:38:36] reacted. Let Labour say it was some sort [00:38:38] of right-wing planned [00:38:40] >> only right-wingers object to kids being [00:38:42] it's not. It was it was a spontaneous [00:38:44] reaction across the country. So Lucy [00:38:46] Connelly posted something ill- advised [00:38:48] but but arguably you know she deleted it [00:38:52] 3 hours later obviously after the heat [00:38:54] had gone out of it. [00:38:54] >> She said that the people who did this [00:38:56] came from a migrant hostel [00:38:57] >> but she went to prison for uh 30 weeks I [00:39:01] think it was. Was it 30 weeks? I think [00:39:03] something like that. Bit more than that. [00:39:04] Bit more. So she but she came we we we [00:39:07] we host her in parliament. [00:39:08] >> Did she harm anybody? [00:39:10] >> No. [00:39:11] No, I get death threats, Tucker, and we [00:39:14] report it to the police. I think I've [00:39:15] had eight death threats in the last 3 [00:39:17] months. Uh, and we report it to the [00:39:19] Metropolitan Police, and the square root [00:39:21] of nothing happens. So, um, I I would [00:39:24] have thought people making death threats [00:39:26] is far more far more dangerous than [00:39:28] people uh, posting something in the heat [00:39:31] of the moment on social media that they [00:39:33] then redact. [00:39:34] >> But, you're a member of parliament. [00:39:35] >> I'm a member of parliament. Yep. And you [00:39:38] get death threats and they [00:39:40] >> we get death threats on social media, [00:39:41] >> but they took your guns away. [00:39:43] >> Well, I was that was because reform uh [00:39:46] for some extraordinary reason [00:39:47] politically assassinated me and um made [00:39:50] some false witness statements that that [00:39:53] I had uh um Muhammad Zudin Ysef said [00:39:57] that I had threatened him uh in a [00:40:00] meeting which was palpable rubbish and [00:40:02] that I stood over him and I was I [00:40:05] threatened to hit him. Well, I'm 68 and [00:40:08] he's 38, so that's a bad idea to start [00:40:10] with. And it just didn't happen like [00:40:13] that. So, you know, at the end of the [00:40:14] day, we had a debate about Great [00:40:16] Yarmouth and my branch office in Great [00:40:18] Yarmouth, no more. And the WhatsApp [00:40:20] train proved it. But he gave this [00:40:22] witness statement and then Lee Anderson [00:40:23] gave a witness statement to say that I [00:40:25] was going around Parliament saying I was [00:40:27] a very fine shot and I was going to [00:40:28] shoot Zia Ysef. [00:40:30] as a result of which the Metropolitan [00:40:32] Police arrived more handed and took my [00:40:34] guns away and it took me about 5 months [00:40:36] to get them back. [00:40:38] So look, and they also suggested I had [00:40:42] early onset dementia, which was again [00:40:44] [clears throat] pretty pretty unpleasant [00:40:45] thing to do. [00:40:46] >> Do they have any evidence? [00:40:48] >> Uh I don't think I've got early onset [00:40:49] dementia. Not not that I'm aware, but I [00:40:52] obviously, you know, those people who do [00:40:53] have it, it's a pretty horrific thing to [00:40:55] have. [00:40:55] >> Oh, of course it is. And if I did have [00:40:56] it and they'd said that, it would have [00:40:58] been even more unpleasant. So, you know, [00:41:00] [laughter] [00:41:00] I hope I haven't got it. I hope I [00:41:02] haven't got it, Tucker. But, you know, [00:41:04] anyway, so we we again, fortunately, I'm [00:41:06] I I'm able to fund the legal costs [00:41:09] required. I was able to go on the attack [00:41:11] >> and and I think um you know, what they [00:41:14] did was just morally and uh uh uh in [00:41:19] everywhere every other way wrong. And [00:41:21] >> but this country, its authorities can [00:41:23] just show up and take your guns without [00:41:25] producing a conviction, putting you on [00:41:27] trial, proving you did anything wrong. [00:41:28] They [00:41:29] >> No, this this country is going badly [00:41:30] wrong. I mean I mean it is it is going [00:41:32] badly wrong. But I think that's probably [00:41:33] a symptom of the fact, [00:41:36] you know, we've lost our way. Uh people [00:41:39] people aren't as principled as they used [00:41:41] to be. Uh and ultimately it's it's a [00:41:45] function of statism. I mean it used to [00:41:47] happen in the Soviet Union when you get [00:41:50] when you get central planning and you [00:41:51] get stars like behavior. [00:41:54] >> Yes. [00:41:55] >> Uh you get little people making malign [00:41:58] decisions behind closed doors and [00:42:00] damaging the interests of the good [00:42:02] people. So I always say in Russia uh [00:42:05] when the USSR that the qualification you [00:42:07] needed to best survive was to be a very [00:42:09] good liar. Yeah. And I think as a result [00:42:11] of that, you know, your entire fabric of [00:42:13] your society starts to fall apart, which [00:42:15] is what happened with them. Nobody takes [00:42:17] any responsibility. And then what was it [00:42:19] a generation and a half later, the whole [00:42:21] thing imploded? But on the way, a lot of [00:42:24] people died and a lot of people uh had a [00:42:26] you know pretty hellish life. Uh not [00:42:29] least one of my favorite characters, Al [00:42:31] Alexander Solsitson. [00:42:33] >> Yes. who I think made some very uh um [00:42:36] you know meaningful comment about about [00:42:39] sort of people being free and equal and [00:42:41] >> yes [00:42:42] >> equal and free [00:42:44] >> or not equal and not free whichever way [00:42:46] you want to look at it. So he made some [00:42:47] great great comments. So [00:42:48] >> certainly did [00:42:49] >> I I think we are suffering from too much [00:42:53] central planning too much statism and [00:42:55] too many small people in positions of [00:42:57] influence. [00:43:00] >> Last question. I I I look at what's [00:43:02] happening in Ireland and I know [00:43:05] complicated relationship between the two [00:43:07] countries, but what's happening to [00:43:09] Ireland with mass migration [00:43:11] is basically identical to what's [00:43:13] happening here in Great Britain and it's [00:43:16] also happening in Australia and Canada [00:43:17] and the US. It's so close like almost [00:43:22] precise. It's the same template [00:43:25] that cannot be an like what is that? [00:43:28] What are the forces pushing that? [00:43:31] >> Well, I think we have to ask ourselves [00:43:32] why did the post war elite uh think that [00:43:37] this experiment with multiculturalism [00:43:40] was a good idea. [00:43:41] >> Yes. [00:43:41] >> And I I don't think any of them have [00:43:44] ever really answered that question. I [00:43:46] think uh obviously Ireland is a function [00:43:48] of what's happening here. I mean, you've [00:43:50] obviously got the wretched Northern [00:43:52] Ireland protocol which morphed into the [00:43:54] Windsor agreement which which is [00:43:55] shocking division of the of the United [00:43:58] Kingdom which which effectively was a if [00:44:01] you like sacrificed on the order of [00:44:02] Brexit. [00:44:04] >> Um so but but on the multiculturalism [00:44:07] and again this goes to you probably know [00:44:08] we've got a big [00:44:09] >> Can I repeat what you just said because [00:44:10] I think I want the question to hang in [00:44:11] the air. Why did the post-war elite I [00:44:14] think I'm quoting you decide that this [00:44:16] multiculturalism experiment was a good [00:44:18] idea? [00:44:18] >> I don't I don't know. No, I think it's a [00:44:20] it's a thoroughly bad idea. I I like [00:44:23] >> so obviously [00:44:23] >> nation states who interface with each [00:44:25] other, who respect each other, who [00:44:28] respect each other's culture and who [00:44:31] [clears throat] [00:44:31] >> basically, [00:44:32] you know, interface with each other like [00:44:35] that to try and create this. And again, [00:44:38] does it go to the World Economic Forum? [00:44:40] Is it the Bilderberggers? Is it the [00:44:41] Council on Foreign Relations? Look, I I [00:44:43] I where does the truth lie? I mean, I I [00:44:46] find it probably like you do incredibly [00:44:48] difficult to work out where the truth [00:44:50] lies often in our in our modern age. [00:44:53] >> Um, [00:44:54] most people want to live a a healthy [00:44:58] life centered around their community and [00:44:59] their family and and and and they want [00:45:02] to, you know, be able to wake up in the [00:45:03] morning and feel that they've done the [00:45:05] right thing by everybody. But it does it [00:45:08] does seem that there is this malign [00:45:10] agenda to break down families, to break [00:45:13] down communities, to create this [00:45:16] multicultural world [00:45:19] where I guess arguably a small global [00:45:22] elite are able to exert undue influence [00:45:25] on how everybody else leaves their [00:45:27] lives. I I I that's the only solution I [00:45:30] can come up with in my in with my [00:45:32] limited intellect, but I it doesn't add [00:45:34] up, does it? It doesn't make sense. [00:45:36] >> It honestly it doesn't. And I remember [00:45:38] hearing people 30 years ago hint that [00:45:41] there was some multinational or pang [00:45:44] global conspiracy from the groups you [00:45:46] just mentioned and thinking this this is [00:45:47] obviously a mentally ill person talking [00:45:50] and now you just watch the accumulated [00:45:52] evidence is overwhelming. This is not [00:45:53] organic. It's not the product of [00:45:55] democracy. [00:45:55] >> It's not in the interest of our country. [00:45:56] It's not in the interest of your [00:45:57] country. It's not it's not in the [00:45:59] interest of Ireland and and none of the [00:46:00] electorate want it. So [00:46:02] >> So how are we getting it all at the same [00:46:03] time? [00:46:03] >> Well, it's a very good question, Tucker. [00:46:05] I I I I just don't know the answer to [00:46:07] that. But what I do know is the people [00:46:10] who care about it happening need to now [00:46:13] coalesce and actually start to show [00:46:15] those people who are perpetrating this [00:46:17] on us that they don't want it. Uh and if [00:46:20] that means that they get turfed out of [00:46:22] power, that's what's got to happen. We [00:46:23] we've got to turf them out of power and [00:46:25] make common sense prevail. It's common [00:46:28] sense we're lacking everywhere. But I [00:46:31] think there are, you know, as I said, [00:46:32] there are some signs that um that that [00:46:35] that in in the US, you know, people have [00:46:38] people are beginning to address it and [00:46:40] people are beginning to take action. Um [00:46:42] but it's it's like walking through glue, [00:46:45] isn't it? I mean, that the that there's [00:46:47] this there's this malign power base [00:46:49] that's that doesn't lie down very [00:46:51] easily. Uh and it's it's always there [00:46:54] waiting to pounce again. [00:46:59] Thank you very much, Rubert, for talking [00:47:01] to me. That was great. [00:47:02] >> Pleasure. [00:47:06] >> Christmas is back and so is our [00:47:08] merchandise shop at TCN. Visit tucker [00:47:11] carlson.com to see what we have to offer [00:47:13] and it's awesome. Everyone has a long [00:47:15] list of people they need to shop for [00:47:16] this Christmas. 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