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[00:00:00] All right, you guys. Happy Friday. We [00:00:03] are going on a journey today. You know, [00:00:05] I like it's going to be a good episode [00:00:06] when I start that way. I'm looking at [00:00:08] everything. The pieces are coming [00:00:09] together. I'm asking myself, you're [00:00:11] asking yourselves, is this a scam of [00:00:15] biblical proportions? Emphasis on the [00:00:18] biblical. Because from the very [00:00:20] beginning of this investigation, I [00:00:21] always said there was something wrong [00:00:24] with Turning Point faith. That's when [00:00:27] Turning Point made a turning point, so [00:00:28] to speak. feels a bit scoopy, like a [00:00:31] psychological operation, almost as [00:00:33] though faith is being intentionally [00:00:36] hijacked. Um, Dr. Frank Turk, by the [00:00:38] way, went on another rant about me. He's [00:00:41] getting to sound a little bit like Bobby [00:00:43] Buché's mom. If you guys have seen Water [00:00:44] Boy, everything is the devil. Gen Zones [00:00:47] is the devil. He says I'm Satan because [00:00:49] I'm confusing. It's just crazy how the [00:00:52] truth can confuse people. What is it [00:00:53] about the truth that is confusing people [00:00:56] in this moment? Now, before we get into [00:00:58] Frank Turk, I first have to share with [00:01:00] you a very scary story. Something that [00:01:03] happened the day after Charlie's [00:01:05] memorial. And yes, it's going to include [00:01:08] another text message from him. This [00:01:10] time, uh, sent on September 9th. So, [00:01:14] welcome back to Candace. [00:01:31] You know, Turning Point has a lot of [00:01:33] money. Enough money to have not just a [00:01:35] PR person, but then to have an entire [00:01:37] orbit of people who are being paid to [00:01:40] push their talking points like Paramount [00:01:42] Tactical. The They also have a crisis PR [00:01:45] team. They I was told that actually by [00:01:47] Erica that they hired a crisis PR team [00:01:49] because you know Andrew had made all [00:01:51] those mistakes. But I have to say all of [00:01:52] those people appear to be in struggle [00:01:54] city at this moment. They are struggling [00:01:56] to come up with a way to explain [00:02:00] a way a way a way to explain the calls [00:02:03] that we saw, the Zoom calls that we [00:02:05] shared, the laughter, the smiling. [00:02:07] They're wondering how exactly they can [00:02:09] go about gaslighting the public into [00:02:11] believing that all of that is perfectly [00:02:12] normal 5 and a half days after your [00:02:14] husband was publicly executed in front [00:02:16] of the world. Which is why I want to [00:02:19] shout out the Daily Mail, okay? Because [00:02:22] no one has been working harder than the [00:02:24] Daily Mail to invert reality. And I got [00:02:27] to tell you, this was a difficult one [00:02:29] for them. It was not easy, but they did [00:02:32] their best with this article. Check out [00:02:34] this headline. The definitive truth [00:02:36] about Erica Kirk's tears, the leather [00:02:38] pants, and her new fortune as Candace [00:02:40] Owens drops quote unquote giggling phone [00:02:43] call in wake of Charlie's death. Well, I [00:02:46] said it's the definitive truth. Look no [00:02:48] further. Nothing says I'm the truth. [00:02:51] Quite like when a journalist comes out [00:02:52] and says it, right? It you it could be [00:02:54] nothing else. No way. This is going to [00:02:56] be a lie. So definitive. You don't have [00:02:59] to look any further. Here's what the [00:03:00] article says. This is amazing. This is [00:03:02] funny. This will lighten your mood. [00:03:04] Quote, "The Daily Mail has spoken with [00:03:07] several experts on grief and so-called [00:03:10] grief policing about the recent [00:03:12] obsession that many Americans have [00:03:15] developed with Kirk's behavior as a new [00:03:17] widow. Love that already. Love that we [00:03:20] have a term grief policing. I love that [00:03:22] you can always rely on a new [00:03:25] psychological phenomena to be spun out [00:03:27] by the media." This is the problem is [00:03:29] actually you guys for noticing. [00:03:32] And then it says, "And as her critics [00:03:34] will likely be disappointed to learn, [00:03:36] those experts say judgments about Kirk [00:03:38] reveal less about her, less about her [00:03:41] true state of mind and much more about [00:03:43] the broader national discomfort with [00:03:45] death, especially the kind of violent, [00:03:47] widely broadcast killing that took her [00:03:49] husband down." Quote, this is a quote [00:03:52] from an expert, guys. It reflects our [00:03:55] mourning avoidant, emotion phobic [00:03:58] culture where people tend to make all [00:04:00] sorts of quick uninformed judgments [00:04:02] about how people are supposed to grieve, [00:04:04] says Dr. Allen Wolft, a Colorado-based [00:04:08] death educator and grief counselor. [00:04:11] Shout out to Dr. Allen because that this [00:04:13] is a tough job and he's saying a lot of [00:04:15] words. He's doing what he's learned at [00:04:17] school is just say a bunch of words, [00:04:18] call people bunch of names. He's like, [00:04:21] "This is super califragilistic [00:04:23] ispialociousness." [00:04:25] Yeah. The ism, the the [00:04:29] caladocious abracadobra abracadabra [00:04:32] dabda doo doo dab dah ism is what [00:04:36] everyone's suffering from. Anyways, it [00:04:38] goes on the article. The experts, so [00:04:39] step aside, losers, the experts are [00:04:41] here. The experts at the Daily Mail [00:04:43] spoke to were quick to note that Kirk [00:04:45] has been an easy target for people who [00:04:47] don't share her or her husband's staunch [00:04:50] political or religious views. There is, [00:04:52] they say, also an aspect of sexism at [00:04:55] play. Another quote, another therapist. [00:04:59] This guy says, "Widows are uniquely [00:05:01] grief policed. Their appearance, their [00:05:03] tone, and behavior, said LA grief [00:05:06] therapist Bidwell Smith." Okay, Bidwell. [00:05:09] He says there's this cultural belief [00:05:11] that a good widow should look really [00:05:14] collapsed and devastated, but grief is [00:05:16] not a performance and survival is not a [00:05:17] moral failure. When grieving, people can [00:05:22] hyperfunction as Kirk has appeared to [00:05:24] do. People throw a lot of negative [00:05:25] judgment on that, thinking that they [00:05:26] feel nothing when internally, privately, [00:05:28] they may be collapsing and not really [00:05:30] show it," Bidwell Smith added. Dr. Wolf [00:05:34] similarly suspects that Kirk's [00:05:35] insistence on getting up and getting [00:05:37] dressed and putting on makeup and [00:05:38] fighting for something she believes in [00:05:40] every day is a classic emotional [00:05:42] survival tactic. And so first I want to [00:05:45] say that's amazing when I actually [00:05:47] thought about that when they're like the [00:05:48] problem is you and you guys are sexist [00:05:50] is first and foremost it was the women [00:05:52] that came out first and said I don't [00:05:56] like this for some reason. I want to [00:05:57] remind you of that. Secondly, I had to [00:05:59] go backward in my own mind because I'm [00:06:00] close to this situation. And I was like, [00:06:02] may maybe there is maybe there is some [00:06:03] objective sexism here. Let me think [00:06:05] about that. And then I remembered [00:06:08] another death that deeply impacted the [00:06:11] entire world. Literally, I did not know [00:06:14] this man, never met this man, and felt [00:06:17] like I knew him. And I boohoo cried in [00:06:19] my bed. uh when Kobe Bryant died in the [00:06:22] helicopter. I remember this day like [00:06:24] exactly where I was crying hysterically [00:06:27] because I was a huge Lakers fan growing [00:06:28] up and I just always admired uh Kobe [00:06:31] Bryant. This is before I was Catholic. [00:06:32] He's Catholic. And I never for a single [00:06:37] second do I remember the conversation [00:06:39] being about his wife being [00:06:40] inappropriate. In fact, there was a [00:06:42] memorial. It didn't happen 11 days [00:06:43] later. It happened a month later and she [00:06:47] it was [00:06:49] there were no fireworks, there were no [00:06:51] pyrochnics, there were uh she was [00:06:53] agrieved and I went back and I listened [00:06:55] to this speech and I had to stop [00:06:58] watching it because I almost cried [00:06:59] again. It was in a eulogy. It was parts [00:07:02] of Kobe that no one could know other [00:07:04] than his wife. uh when she spoke about [00:07:06] her daughter and what she would never [00:07:09] get to experience because her daughter [00:07:12] was now gone, she spoke about not being [00:07:16] able to be at her wedding. I mean, it's [00:07:17] it's I can't even talk about it because [00:07:19] it was again this go you should [00:07:22] challenge yourself to go watch that [00:07:23] speech. you should go watch Vanessa's [00:07:25] speech at the memorial um and see if you [00:07:29] recognize some differences because I [00:07:30] realized that I was so traumatized by [00:07:32] Charlie's um I I actually wasn't being [00:07:35] objective. I wasn't being objective and [00:07:38] realizing these things early on that I [00:07:40] think some of the public was recognizing [00:07:42] right away. And something else that is [00:07:45] interesting about Vanessa is she went [00:07:48] through the anger period. Vanessa was [00:07:50] suing everybody. She was suing people [00:07:52] who released the photos. She was suing [00:07:55] the helicopter company even though the [00:07:57] guy who ran the company was actually the [00:07:58] one flying the plane. He died. I [00:07:59] actually remember thinking, "Wow, like [00:08:02] she like she's I I personally thought [00:08:05] this is not going to bring him back." [00:08:06] But I understood that phase of anger. [00:08:08] She was angry at the sheriff's [00:08:10] department. Like you knew what time it [00:08:12] was. Like talk about an investigation. [00:08:14] She was doing that. Nobody was invited [00:08:17] into her home least of all the New York [00:08:18] Times. And when she gave her first [00:08:20] interview, just so you know, that wasn't [00:08:23] until 4 months later in April, and they [00:08:25] were not invited into her home. And it [00:08:26] was because she was accepting on behalf [00:08:28] of Kobe him being inducted into the Hall [00:08:31] of Fame. So, I just wanted to give you [00:08:33] some compare and contrast because the [00:08:34] sexism thing is completely ridiculous [00:08:37] and you can step you could just [00:08:38] completely uh sidestep that. And another [00:08:42] thing that I wanted to point out as I [00:08:43] was kind of examining that was I went [00:08:45] back and I went, "Wow, the speech is so [00:08:46] beautiful and I'm learning so much about [00:08:49] who Kobe was." Because to me, he was a [00:08:51] basketball player and he was a leader [00:08:53] and I loved that he spoke different [00:08:54] languages and there were so many things [00:08:55] I loved about Kobe. I I thought he was I [00:08:57] just thought he was brilliant. Um, and [00:09:00] but I didn't I didn't know him. and she [00:09:02] when she's giving in all of these [00:09:04] examples and the things that he would do [00:09:05] around the house and who he was and who [00:09:06] they were, I by the end of that felt [00:09:09] like I knew Kobe behind the scenes. And [00:09:12] then I sort of went back and I revisited [00:09:14] and just read the transcript of Erica's [00:09:16] speech and I am actually in retrospect [00:09:19] quite amazed by how much was really [00:09:21] about Turning Point USA and what was [00:09:24] going to happen going forward. And you [00:09:26] don't actually when you read the [00:09:27] transcript learn anything about Charlie [00:09:29] other than Turning Point USA and what's [00:09:31] going to happen going forward. Even in [00:09:34] the first speech that she gave next to [00:09:36] his chair, she talks about Turning Point [00:09:38] USA and what we can do for the [00:09:39] organization, right? As if comparing it [00:09:42] if Vanessa got up and said, "Here's what [00:09:44] you can do for the Lakers organization [00:09:46] today. Here is what the Lakers are going [00:09:48] to do. Lakers 2.0. Here's the Lakers. [00:09:50] This is what Kobe love to play [00:09:51] basketball. Here's what you can do for [00:09:52] the sport of basketball." I think that [00:09:55] is the reason people were immediately [00:09:58] off-put because it wasn't a eulogy. It [00:10:01] wasn't speaking about those parts and [00:10:02] and those pieces of him. Um yeah, and [00:10:06] yeah, watching it in retrospect was [00:10:08] something different. And I'm going to [00:10:09] let you listen to again this this piece [00:10:11] about Turning Point USA. What was this [00:10:14] 36 hours after Charlie was assassinated? [00:10:16] Maybe it was 48 hours after he was [00:10:17] assassinated. Take a listen. My favorite [00:10:20] my my favorite too, but my husband's [00:10:22] favorite word in the English language [00:10:26] was earn. [00:10:29] He would call all of you to be people of [00:10:31] action who earn the future America [00:10:35] deserves. [00:10:38] So to all of the young people who felt [00:10:40] inspired by my husband's faith in hard [00:10:42] work [00:10:45] all of you already know what Charlie [00:10:47] would want you to do. You know [00:10:51] you know [00:10:53] if you're in high school or if you're in [00:10:55] college, go find your local Turning [00:10:57] Point USA chapter. [00:11:00] Join it. Stay involved. [00:11:04] He wants you to make a difference. [00:11:07] And you can. [00:11:09] You can. The movement's not going [00:11:11] anywhere. And it will only grow stronger [00:11:14] when you join it. [00:11:17] If there isn't a chapter, you can't find [00:11:20] one, then start one. There is no excuse. [00:11:22] You can start one. And as my husband [00:11:25] used to say in this room every single [00:11:27] day, if you want to get involved, the [00:11:30] best way you can do that is going to [00:11:31] tpusa.com. [00:11:33] That's what he would say every day from [00:11:34] this chair every single day. I watched [00:11:37] his show every day and he would always [00:11:38] say, "If you want to get involved, go to [00:11:40] tpusa.com." [00:11:44] If you're a pastor, join our movement at [00:11:46] TPUSA faith. And if you're a parent, I [00:11:49] highly recommend that you come to [00:11:51] America Fest in December. [00:11:54] Sign up right now for that because we [00:11:56] would love to see you. I would love to [00:11:58] see you. Charlie would he'll be there. [00:12:01] He'll be there in spirit. [00:12:05] >> That's three web addresses. [00:12:08] Here's how you can sign up. Here's what [00:12:09] you can do. And I I now in retrospect [00:12:14] I don't know. I'm I'm at a loss for [00:12:16] words. And then it's the same thing with [00:12:17] the speech. There's it's a lot about [00:12:18] Turning Point USA and Turning Point USA [00:12:20] as if that's just who he was. Like there [00:12:22] was no person other than a business. And [00:12:25] I'm telling you that because I now want [00:12:27] to pivot into telling you I think kind [00:12:30] of a scary story heading into the [00:12:32] weekend. A little terrifying story. [00:12:34] Maybe because I'm a little biased here. [00:12:35] Okay. Catholic. And this just disturbs [00:12:37] me a little bit more. I promise. Um, you [00:12:40] know, I'm wearing my this uh sweatshirt. [00:12:42] I told the priest I would chill. I told [00:12:44] the priest I would chill. We had [00:12:45] somebody message us and say, "You should [00:12:46] you should be uh making these [00:12:48] sweatshirts." And it's real. I do [00:12:50] actually like I'm being always sincere [00:12:52] when I say that. Um, but this is a story [00:12:55] that involves a priest and I promise [00:12:57] after this I'm going to chill for the [00:12:59] weekend because I think this story is so [00:13:00] crazy I need time to process it because [00:13:03] again it involves Catholics and we're [00:13:05] up. Sorry guys, it brings me no pleasure [00:13:07] to report. [00:13:09] So Catholics, if you're watching, take a [00:13:11] listen. I got an email from a woman, [00:13:14] Catholic woman, back in October, and the [00:13:17] email did not sit right with me [00:13:19] spiritually. There was a lot going on [00:13:21] though. I was obviously in survival mode [00:13:24] mentally. I flagged the email. I filed [00:13:27] it away in this inbox that I just this [00:13:30] is I need to address this later. It's [00:13:32] important. And I then decided to revisit [00:13:36] it and to respond to the woman and to [00:13:38] process what it was that had initially [00:13:40] disturbed me. Now, I'm going to read you [00:13:42] this email and I am going to protect um [00:13:46] information of of people today. Uh, I'm [00:13:48] not going to be giving out any names [00:13:50] because it doesn't actually change the [00:13:52] story any. Uh, this person wrote, "Dear [00:13:56] Candace, firstly, thank you and may God [00:13:58] bless you and protect you for everything [00:13:59] that you do. I pray for you every day [00:14:01] and I thank God for you bringing the [00:14:03] light of truth and Christ to this world. [00:14:05] I attended the memorial and I ended up [00:14:08] sitting next to Father Blank. He was [00:14:10] actually the priest that flew with Erica [00:14:12] to Utah. He was with her when they [00:14:14] called her that he did not make it. [00:14:16] prayed over him. She actually asked him [00:14:19] to pray the rosary there at the hospital [00:14:21] and he said the homaly at the private [00:14:23] funeral the Friday before the memorial. [00:14:27] Now, in hindsight, it is strange to me [00:14:28] that he was just put in the crowd at the [00:14:30] memorial, but then again, he may have [00:14:32] wanted that. I was at the memorial [00:14:34] having zero personal or prior [00:14:37] involvement or engagement with Turning [00:14:39] Point USA or anyone from there. and I [00:14:42] ended up sitting next to Father Blank [00:14:44] and then with Erica at mass the next [00:14:47] day. I truly believe it is complete [00:14:50] divine intervention. I prayed at the [00:14:52] time and each day after exactly this [00:14:55] God, I see and feel you are leading me. [00:14:57] I know there is a purpose. I don't know [00:14:59] what it is or where you are taking me, [00:15:01] but I'm following with complete [00:15:02] surrender and faith to your holy will. [00:15:05] I'll try to I'll try to best email this [00:15:08] with the relevant relevant details and I [00:15:10] think that it may help. I was watching [00:15:11] your podcast as I'm finishing up work [00:15:13] and I had to pause it when you played [00:15:15] Alex Clark's interview because it [00:15:16] honestly made my stomach hurt how [00:15:18] untruthful what they were saying was and [00:15:20] I felt strong conviction to write you. [00:15:22] I've never emailed a person I don't know [00:15:24] in my life but I'm following this [00:15:26] conviction. [00:15:27] I spent a good eight hours sitting with [00:15:29] Father Blank. I'm shy generally and was [00:15:33] sitting with empty seats around me in [00:15:35] the third row from the stage. So when I [00:15:38] saw the priest walking by and looking [00:15:40] like he didn't know where he was going, [00:15:41] I said, "Hi, Father. I'm also Catholic. [00:15:43] If you need a seat, this one's empty." [00:15:45] Whether he wanted to or not, he sat [00:15:46] down. He seemed like a holy priest, [00:15:48] soft-spoken, but so sincere and genuine. [00:15:51] He prayed in silence throughout and [00:15:52] would smile and say, "Charlie wouldn't [00:15:55] believe this." Looking around the [00:15:56] stadium, it was like he was going [00:15:57] through a roller coaster of emotions [00:15:59] right there. where he shared stories of [00:16:00] Charlie attending mass and him spending [00:16:02] a lot of time with Erica and Charlie. As [00:16:05] Erica was taking talking on stage, [00:16:08] father held his hands towards her was [00:16:11] praying over her for protection and [00:16:13] strength. Tears going down his face from [00:16:15] his stories and messages from Charlie [00:16:17] that he showed me. It seemed like he was [00:16:19] probably the closest person in that room [00:16:21] to Charlie and to Erica. Yet, he was [00:16:24] sitting with me like any other guest. [00:16:25] Like I said, in hindsight, it just feels [00:16:27] so off still. [00:16:29] At some point during one of our [00:16:31] conversations, we spoke about the daily [00:16:34] mass at his parish because I wanted to [00:16:37] go on Monday before I flew back to [00:16:40] Chicago. Uh he said yes, at 8:30 a.m. [00:16:45] there would be mass. To be honest, I [00:16:47] wasn't sure if I was going to make it, [00:16:48] but then I saw a text from him at 6:30 [00:16:51] a.m. saying, "Hope to see you at mass." [00:16:53] I knew it was my sign to just make it [00:16:55] work and go. There were about six people [00:16:58] at the 8:30 a.m. mass that Monday, the [00:17:00] large church of blank. I sat in the [00:17:03] first row, and I felt God's presence so [00:17:05] powerfully the entire mass that I [00:17:07] couldn't stop the tears from flowing. I [00:17:08] didn't cry at the memorial, but I I wept [00:17:10] quietly the entire mass. Afterward, I [00:17:12] stayed to pray a while longer. Lights [00:17:14] were starting to turn off, and I looked [00:17:15] back, and I noticed a tall bodyguard in [00:17:17] the back along with Erica and a [00:17:19] middle-aged woman that was sitting by [00:17:20] her. At that moment, I went back to [00:17:23] prayer and I said, "God, if you'd like [00:17:25] for her and I to connect or speak, [00:17:28] please bring us together. If not, I will [00:17:30] pray for her and I'll head out." I did [00:17:32] not want to disrupt her, but also I had [00:17:33] an intense knowledge of how much God's [00:17:36] hand was present throughout the last two [00:17:38] days. A minute or two later, as I was [00:17:41] still in prayer, I had a tap on my [00:17:42] shoulder by a woman. I believed it was [00:17:45] an assistant. I can't remember what it [00:17:47] is she does. She said, "Would you like [00:17:50] to join Erica?" Candace, at that moment, [00:17:52] I thought, "Okay, God, I hear you. I've [00:17:54] never had so much peace while blindly [00:17:56] surrendering to God's will. Maybe I [00:17:58] have, but I haven't ever seen it so [00:18:00] clearly in action." I hugged Erica. I [00:18:03] sat next to her in the last pew, and I [00:18:04] just had the most beautiful [00:18:05] conversation. She mentioned that Charlie [00:18:08] went to mass with her there and that [00:18:10] Father Don would open the church up for [00:18:12] him there often when Charlie just wanted [00:18:15] to pray and reflect without being [00:18:18] disrupted and that he was with her the [00:18:20] entire time from Arizona to Utah in the [00:18:23] hospital etc. I have so much I could [00:18:25] share on all of the little miracles, but [00:18:27] I just want to say that today I felt [00:18:29] compelled to send this to you. And so [00:18:32] I'm listening to my conviction in [00:18:33] sending this and I am hoping that the [00:18:34] Holy Spirit and both of our guardian [00:18:37] angels will direct this message as it is [00:18:39] intended per God's will. I have to say I [00:18:44] uh felt more realness from Erica in my [00:18:47] exchange with her in that church than [00:18:49] from the memorial. [00:18:53] I saw her at mass again on Tuesday. I [00:18:56] ended up staying an extra day because I [00:18:58] had relics from St. Paul II that my mom [00:19:02] wanted to give Erica flown there. I [00:19:04] coordinated someone to fly it to me and [00:19:07] then I gave it to her. Okay, I am going [00:19:12] to [00:19:13] end it there. [00:19:16] Now, [00:19:18] why do you think that uh that email [00:19:21] disturbed me and made me file it? Just [00:19:24] check in the chat here. What what is not [00:19:26] right with that email? And I'll tell [00:19:29] you, it wasn't the person who wrote it [00:19:30] that disturbed me. I blanked out over [00:19:33] her name because I'm going to tell you [00:19:34] now that the person who tapped on her [00:19:38] shoulder who she thought was an [00:19:40] assistant [00:19:41] was Stacy Sheridan. [00:19:46] That was what disturbed me about the [00:19:47] email and made me file it right away [00:19:48] because I knew exactly what happened and [00:19:50] I did not have the heart to tell her [00:19:53] what had happened because I know who [00:19:54] Sace Sheran is. know what I told Charlie [00:19:56] about Stacy Sheridan. I've seen her [00:19:59] work. I've been at events with her. I [00:20:02] knew that Stacy would have only done [00:20:04] that if the girl who was writing me this [00:20:06] email had a boatload of money. Didn't [00:20:11] even need to look up this person or the [00:20:13] email. I knew that they had that girl [00:20:16] clocked before she walked into memorial. [00:20:19] I don't think actually it was God that [00:20:23] sat her where she was sat. three rows [00:20:25] in. She was amazed by all of this. Oh, I [00:20:26] don't even know anybody here. Here I am. [00:20:28] I don't even know Charlie. I don't know [00:20:29] anybody about Turning Point USA. Here I [00:20:30] am sitting at the front and oh my gosh, [00:20:33] this moment and and and you know, Erica [00:20:35] won't even speak to this after turning [00:20:36] point USA. But Stacy Sheridan, would you [00:20:38] like to would you like access to the [00:20:39] grieving widow? I knew I knew and I [00:20:42] filed it. I knew something was wrong. [00:20:44] And then when I went to go revisit all [00:20:46] these things I had filed and I saw this, [00:20:47] I went, "Oh my gosh, this makes me so [00:20:49] sick." And I knew that I had to reach [00:20:51] out to this person and I had to say it. [00:20:53] Um, hey, don't know anything about you, [00:20:56] but I'm going to assume you have a lot [00:20:59] of money, and it breaks my to tell you [00:21:01] this, but you were targeted. Uh, they [00:21:04] would have known everything about you. [00:21:05] That's how they work. Before everyone is [00:21:06] seated, Stacy Sheridan's job literally [00:21:08] is to know everything about that person, [00:21:10] their net worth. She she'll know your [00:21:13] dad's net worth, your mom's net worth. [00:21:16] She would tell Charlie. She whisper in [00:21:17] Charlie's ear. That person runs [00:21:19] soahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah [00:21:20] blah blah blah and then Charlie would go [00:21:23] have the conversation. That was the [00:21:25] whole reason they brought her on. That's [00:21:26] what Stacy's brilliant at. Smelling [00:21:28] money truly. Uh and so I uh had a [00:21:33] conversation. I said and actually when [00:21:36] we finally broke this conversation uh [00:21:39] she had already arrived to that [00:21:40] conclusion. So that was back in October [00:21:41] sent the email. And so my message to [00:21:43] her, she said, "Yeah, I I kind of [00:21:44] figured this all out now." And uh I [00:21:46] said, "You got a lot of money?" "Yeah, [00:21:48] got a lot of money." Uh how much money [00:21:50] we talking? Dad sold a huge business. [00:21:52] She runs a massive business. They are [00:21:55] wealthy. Extraordinarily wealthy. And I [00:21:57] said, "Now, let's go through how this [00:21:59] all really happened because you were [00:22:00] targeted. And um I'd like to know how [00:22:04] you ended up at the memorial." And so [00:22:05] she tells me a story of how that all [00:22:07] happened. And I'm going to walk you [00:22:08] through it because I think it is uh [00:22:12] one of the more disgusting and [00:22:14] disturbing things that I've heard [00:22:15] throughout the story. Maybe I'm taking [00:22:16] it more personally because I am Catholic [00:22:19] and I'm happy to be biased in that way, [00:22:21] but I I think you will tend to agree [00:22:22] with me here. So just so there's no [00:22:25] confusion, she was obviously telling the [00:22:27] truth. She even supplied evidence uh in [00:22:29] the form of a text message that the [00:22:31] priest that she was sitting next to had [00:22:32] shared with her. This is Charlie's text [00:22:34] message. She's on a group chat with [00:22:36] Erica and the priest. And this is the [00:22:38] morning of September 9th. Now, Erica has [00:22:41] been telling the truth when she says [00:22:43] that Charlie would send uh messages and [00:22:46] have biblical verses. I have tons with [00:22:48] Charlie. They were typically relevant to [00:22:50] whatever we were going through, a verse [00:22:52] of encouragement uh to keep going, to [00:22:54] keep fighting. And here is the message [00:22:56] that he chose to share. Again, group [00:22:59] chat between him and Erica. September [00:23:00] 9th, it is 1 Corinthians. Paul's letter [00:23:02] to the Corinthians 16:9 and it reads for [00:23:05] a wide door for effective work has [00:23:09] opened to me and there are many [00:23:12] adversaries. [00:23:14] Just find that message in general to be [00:23:17] interesting because it is him [00:23:19] acknowledging that his opportunities [00:23:23] have bred him enemies who were the [00:23:25] adversaries. I I find that to be [00:23:27] interesting that message was shared [00:23:29] anyway. So I said, "How did you actually [00:23:31] arrive?" because people were waiting in [00:23:32] the rain for tickets and so there had to [00:23:35] be a little bit of inside baseball here. [00:23:37] Um, and then she said, "Oh, well, [00:23:39] actually I was at a different event, a [00:23:41] marketing event when Charlie was shot [00:23:45] and was networking with some people that [00:23:48] were involved. It was it was a [00:23:50] conference event with some people that [00:23:54] were orbiting around like PBD's podcast. [00:23:56] That part's not exactly that relevant to [00:23:58] the story because these they're [00:24:00] marketing people. they're kind of doing [00:24:01] their job. And that person then hooked [00:24:03] her up directly with somebody that they [00:24:05] said could help get her into the venue. [00:24:08] She was so struck um emotionally uh [00:24:11] stricken by the Charlie's assassination [00:24:14] like all of us were that she just wanted [00:24:17] to be a part of the memorial. And then [00:24:19] just her luck, somebody said, "Oh yeah, [00:24:21] I I can get you in touch with someone [00:24:22] that can get you through the door and [00:24:23] that's going to be great." And so I also [00:24:26] just want to show you this because in [00:24:27] retrospect she reads it and she realizes [00:24:30] that she's being manipulated. Right? [00:24:31] This is the message. [00:24:34] Perfect. I'm going to introduce you via [00:24:36] text to TPUSA's Blank who traveled [00:24:39] everywhere with Charlie handling many of [00:24:41] their big donors. Uh Blank says that [00:24:43] Erica has been getting more death [00:24:45] threats every day. He's promised Erica [00:24:48] that he will run point on raising money [00:24:50] to cover the memorial service, which is [00:24:52] going to cost approximately $6 million. [00:24:55] Apparently, Trump had to get personally [00:24:57] involved to secure the Cardinal Stadium, [00:24:59] which was planning to host a large and [00:25:01] lucrative RV show this weekend. So, [00:25:04] making up that lost revenue to the [00:25:05] stadium is driving the high cost of this [00:25:08] event. It's uh crazy what their team is [00:25:12] going through right there. Already [00:25:14] emotional manipulation, right? this [00:25:17] idea. You have to rescue Erica. She's [00:25:19] not safe. And oh, by the way, it's going [00:25:22] to be so expensive this thing. She [00:25:24] doesn't even see. She just thinks, "Oh [00:25:25] my god, amazing. I can't believe this." [00:25:27] And doesn't realize that this is like, [00:25:29] you know, we'll get you in, but we're [00:25:30] expecting you to kind of ride check. And [00:25:33] by the way, I do want to address that [00:25:34] lucrative RV show this weekend. I went [00:25:36] back on Wayback Machine, saved [00:25:38] screenshots. There was no RV show that [00:25:42] was on the calendar for this Cardinal [00:25:45] Stadium. Has anybody been able to find [00:25:46] this? We've been told the story a couple [00:25:48] of times now that the White House got [00:25:50] involved and secured the venue and [00:25:52] people started asking questions about [00:25:53] how this was possible to turn around so [00:25:54] quickly uh because there are, you know, [00:25:56] tons of policies and booking these sorts [00:25:58] of venues. They don't do things last [00:25:59] minute. This RV show, if you know [00:26:01] something about it, you were supposed to [00:26:03] attend and had tickets and got an email [00:26:05] and said, "Hey, never mind. It's off." [00:26:07] Please email more tips.com. I need to [00:26:10] know more about this little RV show. [00:26:12] Anyway, this idea that it was going to [00:26:14] cost them $6 million to make off the [00:26:16] revenue. Obviously, we know they made a [00:26:17] ton of money. They geofenced everybody's [00:26:19] phones, I can't imagine what just [00:26:20] selling the data uh on that would have [00:26:22] been worth, but interesting to know this [00:26:24] is this is how it gets started. Okay, so [00:26:27] then I Okay, she's sitting in the third [00:26:30] row and she's now next to the priest and [00:26:32] I asked, "What about the next Let's go [00:26:34] more specifically about how you got uh [00:26:37] to church the next morning because [00:26:39] that's interesting, right? like you [00:26:41] struck up a conversation. You said that [00:26:42] you struck up a conversation, whatever. [00:26:44] And that the the priest said, "Yeah, [00:26:45] come to mass." Well, the part that she [00:26:47] forgot is that he told her in this text, [00:26:51] "Erica might be there. Good morning. I [00:26:54] hope to see you at 8:30 a.m. Uh Erica [00:26:56] may be there, too." Okay, that's an [00:27:01] interesting text from a priest. Now, she [00:27:04] believes that this is a good guy, and [00:27:08] that's great. And I hope deeply in my [00:27:11] heart that that is true. But I am [00:27:13] beginning to ask questions about that [00:27:17] because it is there's a lot there that's [00:27:20] happening. If I am correct, he also [00:27:24] cancelled his mass on September 10th. [00:27:27] Give me just a second cuz I hear my [00:27:28] phone is on. Um that he canled his mass [00:27:30] on September 10th on that morning. I I [00:27:33] just I'd like to know more. I genuinely [00:27:35] would like to know more. And I don't [00:27:37] understand if a priest is just trying to [00:27:39] get you through the door on a Monday [00:27:40] morning to go to mass why you would say [00:27:42] Erica might be here. And also, why is it [00:27:44] a might? [00:27:46] You would know. You more than anyone [00:27:48] would know. You've been with her every [00:27:49] second of every day throughout all of [00:27:51] this. You know whether or not she's [00:27:53] going to be there. You, her, and Stacy [00:27:56] have been rolling pretty deep. So, I I [00:27:58] feel like you knew she was going to be [00:27:59] there. That's my opinion. I genuinely [00:28:02] hope I'm wrong and I'm open to be wrong, [00:28:04] but I have to tell you how I feel about [00:28:06] this. Anyway, she was amazed by this. [00:28:10] Um, and she went and then you know what [00:28:13] happens next? She gets a little tap from [00:28:14] Stacy Sheridan who should burst into [00:28:16] flames when she walks into a church. [00:28:18] We're being honest. Okay, this woman [00:28:20] what? But think about that. What moved [00:28:22] Stacy Sheridan to tap on this person's [00:28:24] shoulder? [00:28:26] Erica told her to do that. Erica gave [00:28:27] her permission to do that. Why would she [00:28:29] randomly go and say tap tap, would you [00:28:32] like to sit with the grieving widow? [00:28:35] That would be the most inappropriate [00:28:36] thing ever. Ever. If you're sitting with [00:28:39] your friend and your friend is grieving [00:28:40] their husband, you would not be like, [00:28:43] "Let me go up to a rando that I don't [00:28:45] know and see if they just want to chill [00:28:46] with her." You would want her to have [00:28:48] privacy. Okay? There's a conversation [00:28:50] that took place. Do not play us for [00:28:52] dummies. Don't do it. There was a [00:28:54] conversation that took place between [00:28:56] Erica and Stacy Sheridan. conversation [00:28:57] that I have seen before between Charlie [00:29:00] and Stacy Sheridan about who that woman [00:29:02] is. That woman was targeted in that [00:29:04] church. Okay, I am not I don't care. Cut [00:29:07] it. Do whatever you want to say. Put it [00:29:08] on Instagram. Oh my god. Clutch your [00:29:10] pearls. I can't believe Yes, you better [00:29:12] believe it. This woman was targeted in a [00:29:15] church after mass. It makes me sick. It [00:29:18] really does. So anyways, she thinks it's [00:29:20] all God. But let me tell you something. [00:29:22] Where Stacy Sheridan is, we're going in [00:29:24] the other direction. Okay, we're going [00:29:26] in the other direction. And then she [00:29:27] sits and Erica opens up to her. They're [00:29:29] having this beautiful conversation and [00:29:31] she then arranges, she was so amazed by [00:29:33] this that she organizes to get a relic [00:29:36] um from St. Michael, the same actually [00:29:38] same cave that sits behind me. And here [00:29:41] is where I actually see God working that [00:29:43] this woman sent me this email and out of [00:29:45] 50,000 emails coming in. I saw this [00:29:47] email. I saved this email and she [00:29:49] happened to have this might have this is [00:29:51] actually I'm just thinking about this [00:29:52] live. I got this relic [00:29:55] When was I in Wyoming? I got it in [00:29:57] Wyoming from the priest in Wyoming. [00:30:00] You're going to have to tell me. I feel [00:30:01] like it was the first weeks of October [00:30:02] and this is when the woman sent me the [00:30:04] email. So, that's just something that [00:30:05] I'm sorry. I just have like a spiritual [00:30:06] vibe about that. That that also is the [00:30:08] relic that she had and she gave to [00:30:09] Erica. So, St. Michael's doing a little [00:30:12] bit of protection here. And I think that [00:30:13] there is a reason that she had to go [00:30:15] through this. Um, even sometimes when [00:30:17] you're going through things like being [00:30:19] scammed, you're there's a reason for [00:30:20] that. And so, this information came to [00:30:22] me. She gives this organizes uh St. [00:30:24] Michael's relic and she gets this to [00:30:26] Erica. The next day at mass she doesn't [00:30:28] get to speak to Erica because this time [00:30:30] another top fundraiser at Turning Point [00:30:32] USA met her there and said, "Hey, you [00:30:34] know, um Erica wanted me to follow up [00:30:37] with you." And she again was so amazed [00:30:39] by God working that she decided to even [00:30:42] message the priest afterward and thank [00:30:44] him. Thank him that she was able to get [00:30:45] this relic to Erica. And I just want to [00:30:47] read you this because [00:30:50] again we her and I might have different [00:30:51] perspectives here but she says I will [00:30:54] always cherish my time with you both so [00:30:55] much. I'm in absolute awe of how God [00:30:57] worked through me to what I believe uh [00:31:00] was to give Erica those relics. The [00:31:02] experience felt like me directly [00:31:03] witnessing God working through each of [00:31:05] us. I just wanted to send a quick note [00:31:06] to share. Hope to see you soon father. [00:31:07] God bless. And response the father said [00:31:10] God bless. Thank you for sharing your [00:31:11] wonderful words. God's fingerprints are [00:31:13] all over what is happening. There is no [00:31:15] doubt that your presence to Erica was a [00:31:18] God moment for both of you. [00:31:25] I don't like it. [00:31:29] I don't like it. I don't like it one [00:31:31] bit. There's this [00:31:34] we have to protect Erica. This is God. [00:31:38] This is God. What happens there after I [00:31:41] like even less. Um, the intermediary, [00:31:44] the person that delivered the relic, [00:31:45] another top fundraiser for Turning Point [00:31:47] USA, offered that he was going to be in [00:31:49] the Chicago area. Uh, that's where she [00:31:51] lives in Illinois. And he says, "Hey, [00:31:53] I'm going to be there already." [00:31:55] Obviously, Charlie's from Chicago. I'm [00:31:56] sure that was true. Uh, but I'd love to [00:31:59] pop in and see you. And, you know, [00:32:01] you're I'm another we're all committed [00:32:03] in in this faith journey together. And [00:32:06] that happens. And he meets her and he [00:32:09] meets her father. And while he meets [00:32:11] her, he then invites her to the big [00:32:13] gala, the one at Mara Lagu, where [00:32:14] they're going to raise like $42 million. [00:32:17] And hears that message, [00:32:20] he says, "Thank you for organizing [00:32:22] dinner. It was great to spend time on [00:32:23] the road with great Catholics. I had a [00:32:25] wonderful time and thank you for all the [00:32:27] prayers, especially for Erica. Can I [00:32:30] call you tomorrow regarding the gala? We [00:32:31] would love to have you guys involved, [00:32:33] but we can talk further." Erica repeated [00:32:35] how much she loved meeting you again. [00:32:39] Why does this feel to me like [00:32:41] manipulation? Like a a bit of Erica [00:32:45] really needed you. You know, you were [00:32:47] sent from God to Erica with Stacy [00:32:50] Sheridan in the middle of it. Okay. [00:32:53] Well, here's what happens next. [00:32:55] She uh gets a little nudge when she does [00:32:57] go down to Marago. She's she knows [00:32:59] nothing about Mara Lago and Palm Beach. [00:33:00] And I find this part to be quite funny. [00:33:02] Uh dark humor in this because I know [00:33:04] everything about Mara Lago. And it's [00:33:06] like it's like, you know, little Israel. [00:33:07] It it really is and um it's where a lot [00:33:10] of the meetings take place. The Zionist [00:33:12] donors, you know, Prager, you doing a [00:33:14] gala down there makes perfect sense. [00:33:15] They do that and they were all over [00:33:17] this. Suddenly, she's there and she's [00:33:20] meeting a different Turning Point USA [00:33:22] team. Like she meets them at this [00:33:23] church. It's Catholic, but she notices [00:33:25] there's no Catholic discussion or [00:33:27] presence. Rather, you got Dr. Frank Turk [00:33:28] and apparently, according to her, he's [00:33:30] on stage and he's hitting he's hitting [00:33:32] at the Judeo Judeo Judeo. They're now [00:33:34] editing their message because they're in [00:33:36] a room with Jews. And suddenly, we don't [00:33:38] want to talk about the Catholicism. We [00:33:39] don't want to talk about faith. We don't [00:33:40] want to talk about relics. We don't want [00:33:41] to talk about St. Michael. No, wrong [00:33:43] crowd for this. Shabbat shalom. Daddy's [00:33:46] home. [00:33:48] And so she says to the person, she's [00:33:50] like, "What? You know, why aren't you [00:33:51] guys doing anything with the Catholic [00:33:52] stuff? This was I felt, you know, this [00:33:53] was such a strong Catholic bond." And he [00:33:55] kind of kicks the can down the road and [00:33:57] says, "Oh, we're going to we're planning [00:33:58] on doing stuff in the future." Like, not [00:34:00] here. Shabbat shalom. [00:34:03] Shabbat shalom at Mara Lago and she's [00:34:05] just like no something that this doesn't [00:34:09] this is not my thing over the you know [00:34:10] everyone's dressed the nines and and [00:34:13] it's she's like I don't have an issue [00:34:14] with Israel but this feels like [00:34:16] something else than what I experienced. [00:34:18] Um [00:34:20] and then what happens is they follow up [00:34:23] with her and they keep following up with [00:34:25] her because they're they're looking uh [00:34:27] to have a check pretty much. We'd love [00:34:31] to have a call. Leave another message [00:34:33] for your dad. I look forward to getting [00:34:35] you all involved. I hope all is well. I [00:34:36] want to set up time to visit and discuss [00:34:38] further support. Are you available the [00:34:40] second or third week of February? Hi, I [00:34:41] want to touch base and check in. Let me [00:34:42] know if we could schedule a call. And [00:34:45] she kind of just leaves him on red [00:34:46] because she realizes, [00:34:48] yeah, I think I was actually targeted. [00:34:51] I think I was actually targeted. And she [00:34:53] was targeted. And but nothing God lets [00:34:57] everything happen. What I will say is [00:35:00] that God will not be mocked. God will [00:35:02] not be mocked. [00:35:05] I'm a I'm a Latterday Saint on a Monday. [00:35:07] I'm a Catholic on a Tuesday. I'm I'm [00:35:10] Shabbat Shalom on a Wednesday. [00:35:13] God will not be mocked. I I I I see this [00:35:16] for what this is. And there are no [00:35:20] surprises anymore for me. A turning [00:35:22] point faith, the infiltration, it's very [00:35:24] clear. And there is something so [00:35:28] especially sinister about hijacking [00:35:30] people's faith and their emotion. And [00:35:32] when she expressed that that I normally, [00:35:35] you know, I'm a businesswoman. I have my [00:35:36] guard up. But, you know, when it comes [00:35:37] to faith and I'm thinking that this is [00:35:39] all happening, I look back and I go, [00:35:40] man, I didn't even process this because [00:35:43] you shouldn't have had to process that. [00:35:44] No one should have had to have been [00:35:46] thinking this way. Uh that people were [00:35:49] using our trauma and our emotions and [00:35:53] our spirituality [00:35:55] to manipulate us. [00:35:58] Again, God will not be mocked. We'll [00:36:00] take a break. Um, we'll be right back. [00:36:03] All right, you guys. There is a war on [00:36:04] truth right now. You feel it and I feel [00:36:06] it. And the biggest weapon that they [00:36:07] have, of course, is the algorithm. 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[00:38:08] americanfinancing.net. net/owens. [00:38:12] I had to actually go back and check that [00:38:13] to see and she sent me that email on [00:38:15] October 6th and I received the relic on [00:38:18] October 15th. So that's just really [00:38:20] amazing that that happened in October. [00:38:22] Uh relics from the same cave where St. [00:38:25] Michael appeared in Italy. Anyway, uh to [00:38:28] I guess kind of stay in the same vein. [00:38:30] Frank Turk, I've invited him on the show [00:38:31] many times. Uh he gives me Rabbi Barklay [00:38:35] who I had that debate with when I was [00:38:37] over the Daily Wire and I don't even I [00:38:39] don't dislike Frank Turk because it's [00:38:40] just like they are interesting to hear [00:38:42] them talk and explain things and kind of [00:38:45] getting sensed and they seem worried [00:38:48] about not what they're actually saying [00:38:49] like there's something deeper that's [00:38:51] triggering them and he's been saying a [00:38:53] lot about me and I haven't said much [00:38:54] about him but I wanted to let you hear [00:38:58] um how he correlates me to Satan. Take a [00:39:02] listen. [00:39:03] >> I think Candace Owens is um completely [00:39:07] lost any credibility when she's saying [00:39:10] that certain dreams [00:39:13] are are where she's getting her [00:39:14] information from. Okay. Yeah, there are [00:39:16] dreams in the Bible, but there's always [00:39:17] supernatural confirmation for those [00:39:19] dreams. There's been no supernatural [00:39:21] confirmation [00:39:22] for for Candace Owens's dreams. You can [00:39:25] come up with any possibility you want. [00:39:28] Possibilities are not evidence, ladies [00:39:30] and gentlemen. We're supposed to follow [00:39:32] evidence. And notice I'll say this again [00:39:36] for in fact I just had a pastor I was [00:39:38] just talking to a pastor friend of mine. [00:39:40] He's like what do I say when you know [00:39:42] people are running down Erica Kirk and I [00:39:44] say the same thing that I say. Have you [00:39:47] noticed that Jesus and the apostles say [00:39:50] that Satan is a murderer, a slanderer, [00:39:53] an accuser, a liar, and somebody that [00:39:56] brings confusion? Have you noticed that [00:39:59] we've had a murder and then since then [00:40:01] we've had slander, accusations, lies, [00:40:03] and confusion? That's what spiritual [00:40:05] warfare is, ladies and gentlemen. And [00:40:07] for people who are slandering [00:40:10] Erica and others, including me, and [00:40:13] making accusations and lies and stirring [00:40:17] up confusion without evidence, this is [00:40:21] what Satan does. [00:40:25] >> Okay, just a follow-up question, Doc. [00:40:26] like what do we mean that I'm allowed to [00:40:28] have a dream? He's like yeah know that [00:40:29] that's happens all the time in the Bible [00:40:30] when he like remembers that he has to be [00:40:32] Christian and then he's like but there's [00:40:34] supernatural confirmation. What do I [00:40:37] have? What's the supernatural [00:40:38] confirmation that we're looking for? Do [00:40:41] what I what do you want me to say? Had a [00:40:42] dream which happened and then what am I [00:40:45] supposed to say? Like Charlie appeared [00:40:47] in my house. Like I don't know what he's [00:40:48] talking about. That doesn't even make [00:40:49] sense. That's why I just pivots and then [00:40:51] starts going Satan's a murderer. Yeah, [00:40:53] we're kind of trying to figure out who [00:40:55] uh murdered Charlie Kirk. Welcome to the [00:40:57] show, Dr. Frank Turk. We're wear murder. [00:41:01] When you see that act of murder and you [00:41:02] see it in broad daylight, there's [00:41:04] probably like a synagogue of Satan [00:41:06] hiding behind it. And you guys just [00:41:08] don't seem interested at all in going on [00:41:09] this journey to figure out who killed [00:41:10] Charlie Kirk, which is giving us a [00:41:12] little bit of intuition that something's [00:41:15] a miss. Again, going back to the example [00:41:18] of Kobe Bryant's wife, Sue Ever. She [00:41:22] didn't trust nobody. Everybody was [00:41:23] getting sued. Okay. And I didn't even [00:41:26] agree with some of her lawsuits. But [00:41:28] darn if I didn't agree with the emotion [00:41:30] of like a woman who feels like there [00:41:32] needs to be justice served somehow for [00:41:34] my loss. [00:41:36] What would we have said if I don't know [00:41:39] it would have been kind of weird if she [00:41:41] as soon as the helicopter I you know I [00:41:43] just I forgive them. I forgive all [00:41:44] everybody involved. It's like we're [00:41:47] Yeah, you got to get to forgiveness. [00:41:49] You do have to get to forgiveness. And [00:41:51] I'm sure that she's there now, but [00:41:54] immediately after you just you're [00:41:56] skipping all the other phases of grief. [00:41:58] You instantly accepted what happened [00:42:00] within 5 days, maybe even sooner that [00:42:03] Charlie was gone. I I I don't know. I [00:42:06] again, I welcome this discussion with [00:42:08] you, but yeah, Stton is a liar. We're [00:42:11] tracking the Turning Point USA lies. You [00:42:13] are basically confirming for us that [00:42:17] everything that we're looking at is [00:42:18] satanic. kind of what we've been saying, [00:42:21] right? I've been saying this is no [00:42:23] longer about left versus right. This is [00:42:25] good versus evil. And you're upset with [00:42:29] us for pointing out the lies at the same [00:42:31] time that you're calling people Satan. [00:42:33] What am I accusing you of lying? Where [00:42:36] is the evidence? No one in the history [00:42:39] of the world has presented more evidence [00:42:43] than Candace Owens. I got there's just [00:42:44] so much evidence. And then you get [00:42:46] caught up with lies. They debunk them. I [00:42:47] show techies. I I show timelines and [00:42:48] they're just like they concede the [00:42:50] points and then it's just over. They're [00:42:51] like back to like all she's doing is [00:42:52] dreaming. All she's doing is dream. She [00:42:55] hasn't showed us any proof whatsoever. [00:42:57] What are we doing? Why do I feel like [00:42:59] we're on a hamster wheel with these [00:43:01] people? How much more evidence? I have [00:43:03] presented so much more evidence than the [00:43:05] FBI ever did against Tyler Robinson that [00:43:08] they're the accusers. How about they [00:43:10] convicted him when Erica said on stage, [00:43:12] "I forgive you. You're forgiving him." [00:43:14] Which implies that he's guilty. [00:43:18] So, who is the accuser? [00:43:20] Who is the liar? Uh, who is the person [00:43:24] that you are saying is evil in all of [00:43:26] this? The person trying to find out who [00:43:28] killed Charlie Kirk who's willing to sit [00:43:30] down publicly with all of you. All of [00:43:34] you at the same time if you'd like for [00:43:37] as long as you'd like. [00:43:40] Or is the people that are engaged in a [00:43:42] cover up, lying to the public and [00:43:44] gaslighting the public because they have [00:43:46] a lot of money. People that are firing [00:43:47] employees without cause [00:43:50] through some loyalty tests because [00:43:51] they're talking to Uber drivers. [00:43:54] You guys are behaving like you're guilty [00:43:58] and like you can spend it away to hide [00:44:01] that. So, if you are a if you have good [00:44:04] intentions and you are a well-meaning [00:44:06] person, um if you are a well-meaning [00:44:08] pastor, I don't know what it takes now [00:44:10] to be a pastor. It seems like all you [00:44:12] have to do is have some feelings and [00:44:13] like a few proverbs, but if if you are [00:44:15] well intended, I don't see why you [00:44:16] wouldn't take me up on the invite to [00:44:18] come on the show. I extend it to you. [00:44:19] Again, I've done it multiple times, but [00:44:20] I extend it to you and any of your [00:44:22] homies at TPUSA [00:44:24] to come on the show. You should be able [00:44:26] to embarrass me. It's very easy, by the [00:44:28] way, to sit down with a liar. That's [00:44:29] like fun when someone's lying through [00:44:31] their teeth. The truth doesn't fear [00:44:34] sitting down with a lie. So, let me know [00:44:36] if you'd like to do it. Anyway, guys, I [00:44:38] do want to also touch briefly before I [00:44:40] get to some of your comments on this Don [00:44:41] Lemon arrest. Like, objectively, no, I [00:44:44] should say subjectively, it's funny. Of [00:44:46] course, it's funny. I mean, Don Lemon, [00:44:47] the idea of Don Lemon being in prison is [00:44:49] funny. Uh, but objectively, him being [00:44:51] put in prison because Pam Bondi wanted a [00:44:53] headline. Pam Bondi, can we get the [00:44:56] Epstein files? Yes or no? like c can you [00:44:59] actually arrest some of these people in [00:45:01] society that are harming children? I [00:45:03] feel like right now um the DOJ has [00:45:06] become like that show Reno 911. Is that [00:45:10] what it is? It's called Reno 911. I [00:45:11] think it's called Reno 911. It just it [00:45:13] all just feels really fake and [00:45:15] ridiculous. People are dressed up and [00:45:18] they're like knocking down doors. We got [00:45:19] Christy Gnome knocking down doors and [00:45:21] she's got long extensions and makeup and [00:45:24] like we're back and Pam Bondi's like and [00:45:26] we're here to arrest the people that [00:45:28] criticize Zionism on college campuses [00:45:32] and now we're like going after Don Lemon [00:45:34] because in case you missed the backstory [00:45:36] of this, Don Lemon is annoying. He's [00:45:38] been annoying his entire life. And [00:45:39] should you go to prison for being [00:45:40] annoying your entire life? Maybe in a in [00:45:42] a sane world when I when I'm the [00:45:44] dictator of the United States. Yeah, [00:45:45] maybe. We don't live in that world right [00:45:47] now. Okay. We live in a world uh where [00:45:49] journalists are allowed to be annoying [00:45:52] and they were basically upset because [00:45:54] what what's happening in Minnesota is a [00:45:57] bunch of protesters figured out that [00:45:59] there is a pastor that works with ICE, [00:46:02] right? And so they've gone in to protest [00:46:04] his church and Don Lemon sort of went [00:46:05] around and started asking a bunch of [00:46:08] questions. But Don Lemon in general [00:46:09] doesn't love church and doesn't love [00:46:10] Christians. Um as we figured this out [00:46:13] when he was speaking to me of like what [00:46:14] do you think about homosexual marriage? [00:46:16] you know, he's got he's got some chips [00:46:17] on his shoulder about it in general. So, [00:46:19] he's there generally to be annoying. [00:46:20] There's no excuse for Dun Lemon, but the [00:46:23] arrest of him after, and we can show you [00:46:25] a clip of him here at this protest is [00:46:27] it's pure theater. It's it is pure FBI, [00:46:31] DOJ, look over here theater because we [00:46:34] have actually been inefficient the [00:46:36] entire time that we've been in office. [00:46:37] We we are actually doing nothing but [00:46:39] trying to grab headlines rather than to [00:46:42] actually solve crimes that are being [00:46:45] committed. mostly by us. Okay. Um, this [00:46:48] is the clip of of Don Lemon just being [00:46:50] Don Lemon at this church and being [00:46:51] annoying. Generally speaking, [00:46:54] >> we're here to worship. We're here to [00:46:55] worship Jesus because that's the hope of [00:46:57] these cities. That's the hope of the [00:46:58] world is Jesus Christ. [00:47:00] >> I want to be very respectful. Please [00:47:01] don't push me, though. [00:47:02] >> We're we're here. We're here to worship [00:47:04] Jesus. That's why we're here. Okay. [00:47:06] That's why we're here. That's what we're [00:47:08] about. [00:47:08] >> Would you think Jesus would be [00:47:09] understanding and [00:47:10] >> we're we're about love these folks? [00:47:12] We're about spreading the love of Jesus [00:47:13] in you. [00:47:14] >> But did you try to talk to them as a as [00:47:15] a Christian? [00:47:16] >> No one is willing to talk. [00:47:17] >> Okay. [00:47:18] >> I I have to take care of my church and [00:47:19] my family. So I ask that you actually [00:47:21] would also leave this building. [00:47:23] >> You don't want us to worship. Unless [00:47:25] you're here to worship. [00:47:25] >> I'm always worship. I'm a Christian. [00:47:26] >> We're here to Well, we're here to [00:47:27] worship. We're here to worship. Okay. [00:47:29] >> Thank you very much. I appreciate. [00:47:31] >> So that's one of the pastors of the [00:47:33] church. Um and it's kind of loud so I [00:47:36] can't hear him, but they're still there. [00:47:40] >> Yeah. This is annoying. Like Don Lemon [00:47:42] obviously his head belongs in a toilet. [00:47:43] He deserves a swirly and if you elect me [00:47:46] dictator I will do it. I promise to do [00:47:47] that. But in the meantime Pam Bondi [00:47:49] trying to grab headlines who's equally [00:47:51] as annoying and who also kind of needs a [00:47:53] swirly if we're being honest. They both [00:47:55] kind of need a swirly. Oh we're not [00:47:56] going to do we're doing this for [00:47:58] Christianity. Shut up Pam Bondi. Just [00:48:00] shut up. Okay. You protected Jeffrey [00:48:03] Epstein. If you never speak again that [00:48:05] would be fine. We would all be okay with [00:48:07] that. You know at the end of the day we [00:48:09] know what this is. Everything, literally [00:48:11] everything is fake and gay. 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Um the we also [00:50:30] have the hard copy autographed bundle [00:50:31] which is now available in the shop as [00:50:33] well. That's make him a sandwich and [00:50:35] blackout both hands signed by me and we [00:50:38] have merged our subscription tiers into [00:50:40] one club canist for $1.99 a month or [00:50:42] $120 for the year. Okay, top comment [00:50:45] from last episode. This person writes [00:50:48] and and this is obviously my sit down [00:50:50] with Bassam Yousef. This person writes, [00:50:51] "Hi, I'm from Switzerland, convert [00:50:52] Muslim woman here. We have been lied to [00:50:54] about Islam in the West. If you want to [00:50:55] know more about the true picture, I [00:50:57] highly recommend you bring on Shik Kamza [00:50:59] Yu Yuf, a great Muslim American scholar. [00:51:02] Lots of love. God bless you. I we have [00:51:04] definitely at the very least been lied [00:51:06] to about all the terrorism. Obviously, [00:51:07] um now we know the CIA and the MSAD [00:51:10] trains, all of these radicals. Um if you [00:51:12] really get into the story of Osama bin [00:51:14] Laden and all of these people that were [00:51:15] CIA agents, then suddenly we're against [00:51:18] uh America and the West. It happens over [00:51:20] and over again too many times for us to [00:51:22] remain foolish about that fact. I mean, [00:51:24] who do you guys think funded Hamas? [00:51:27] Ib Netanyahu did. Obviously, they fund [00:51:30] terror and then they take advantage of [00:51:32] terrorist attacks that they funded. I [00:51:34] think that's pretty obvious and that [00:51:36] Basam Ysef did a good job describing [00:51:37] that. Julia writes, "Petraying devotion [00:51:39] to Christ, but telling consistent lies [00:51:41] gives me holier than thou vibes." [00:51:43] Charlie said, "Lying is like suicide to [00:51:46] the soul." Love you, Candace. Thank you [00:51:48] for the truth. I totally agree, but it [00:51:50] is so much worse. Um, like I said, and [00:51:53] I've been saying this a lot, I rather [00:51:56] people who honestly hate me making [00:51:59] videos, speaking about me, doing [00:52:00] whatever, but when you pretend that [00:52:02] you're doing this as a pastor or uh [00:52:05] somebody who's a godly woman, and you [00:52:07] use uh biblical verses to uh try to [00:52:11] persuade people uh to go after people [00:52:13] that you perceive to be enemies, [00:52:15] typically for purely political reasons [00:52:18] or purely financial reasons. someone's [00:52:20] paying you to do that. Special place in [00:52:22] hell reserved for you. Truly, I I I I [00:52:26] feel that way. It's just God will not be [00:52:28] mocked. That's all I'm going to say. DJ [00:52:30] MCO, was this actually like 50 Cent [00:52:32] here? This person's hi Candace Yay [00:52:34] tweeted out a photo icon. This is g they [00:52:36] gave a really big uh tip here of St. [00:52:38] Moses the Black several years ago and [00:52:40] the momentum that Yay created by this [00:52:42] post finally culminated in a film being [00:52:44] released this Friday. Please give this [00:52:46] redemption themed film a quick shout [00:52:48] out. I have no idea what this film is. [00:52:50] My producer is putting a note here [00:52:52] saying it's a modern retelling of St. [00:52:54] Moses the Black. That's based in [00:52:56] Chicago. 50 Cent is the executive [00:52:58] producer and Whiz Khalifa is in it. Me [00:53:00] and 50 Cent should sit down in general [00:53:02] because I see the memes of 50 Cent and [00:53:04] Canones. I see them. They're good. [00:53:06] They're fun. And so 50 Cent, if you are [00:53:09] watching, let's make this happen. We we [00:53:10] should just do this for the world and [00:53:12] just go at each other. I think that's [00:53:14] what needs to happen. Uh Titus writes, [00:53:16] "Now we are over the target. God bless [00:53:17] you, Kenneth, and thank you for your [00:53:18] bravery. Uh, John Heinchel writes, "JFK [00:53:21] was a Catholic and Charlie was at a [00:53:23] minimum Catholic. Curious by, by the [00:53:25] way, just to pause before I finish your [00:53:27] what you wrote here." That annoys me so [00:53:30] much too about the amount of smoke that [00:53:34] I had to deal with. He wasn't a [00:53:35] Catholic, not the funded campaigns. And [00:53:38] then low key and then you're telling the [00:53:40] person you're singing with who's giving [00:53:41] you the relics of how much Charlie just [00:53:43] like to love be to be in here and prayer [00:53:45] and all of this stuff. It's just so [00:53:47] there's so many lies. There are so many [00:53:49] lies. Anyways, to continue reading, uh, [00:53:52] this person uh continues with, "Boy, [00:53:56] these Zionists really don't like [00:53:57] Catholics. Also, grieving widows don't [00:53:59] have to lie regardless of how they are [00:54:01] behaving. Mrs. Kirk is not just behaving [00:54:02] inappropriately. She's behaving [00:54:03] suspiciously." I agree that it is always [00:54:06] suspicious to tell a lie. That is what [00:54:07] makes people go, "Hm, that's not right. [00:54:09] That's what made me go, hm." for me when [00:54:13] I saw her and Andrew Kovat colluding [00:54:15] after she told me they were getting rid [00:54:17] of Andrew Kovette and replacing him and [00:54:19] then I realized he's the one organizing [00:54:20] the Paramount Tactical and Andrew and [00:54:22] also the Alex Jones which I've now [00:54:24] confirmed with uh people that they fired [00:54:27] for no reason that it was Andrew. It was [00:54:29] Andrew Kovat the whole time. So why did [00:54:31] Eric lie to me? Why are we lying to [00:54:32] Candace? Why are you lying to Candace? [00:54:38] Anyway, Stephanie writes, "I received my [00:54:40] TPUSA hat today, lol. Most likely only [00:54:42] because of the leaked call and the [00:54:43] attention brought to the contract [00:54:46] wording, if you will, regarding [00:54:48] supplying the hats versus a plastic [00:54:50] bracelet that said, "We are Charlie [00:54:51] Kirk." Your credibility is at 100. Thank [00:54:53] you. Yeah, I got a lot of emails that [00:54:55] never even received the hat and now they [00:54:57] are suddenly receiving them. So, that's [00:54:59] good. Aean Colin writes, "There is a [00:55:01] reason for everything. We now see why [00:55:02] Trump 45 and 47 got in. Without 45, 47, [00:55:06] Charlie and you would not have been able [00:55:08] to expose the truth. Watching this shows [00:55:10] where we are in our Lord's plan. Peace [00:55:13] is on the way. Christ is king. Keep [00:55:14] going. Um, do Max. And I I agree. I I [00:55:19] shared that sentiment with the with this [00:55:20] woman that I was speaking to. I was [00:55:21] like, you know what's crazy? I do think [00:55:23] it all happened for a reason. It's the [00:55:24] same way that I say like I'm so grateful [00:55:25] that I worked for PragerU and Turning [00:55:27] Point USA and um Daily Wire because even [00:55:31] though I was blinded in many ways the [00:55:32] time to what now feels like oh I was [00:55:35] just in the belly of the beast as Basf [00:55:37] was saying yesterday I had to kind of be [00:55:39] in there uh to see how it works and I [00:55:43] think similarly she had to be there at [00:55:45] that time because it moved her to then [00:55:47] email me when she saw this strange lie [00:55:50] coming from Andrew Coven about the [00:55:51] Catholic faith and by the way Another [00:55:54] thing that I found out, [00:55:56] oh, I have so many things I'm mad about [00:55:58] that I'm now learning from the people [00:56:00] that were wrongly fired at Turning Point [00:56:02] USA. So, the whole thing that Erica told [00:56:04] me in my face about that was it was [00:56:07] crazy at that time. And Andrew Kovette [00:56:10] again went rogue in that interview with [00:56:12] Alex Clark. Uh-uh. Not true. Try again. [00:56:16] Another lie that she told me because the [00:56:19] reality is is he was texting her [00:56:21] throughout that interview. you know, [00:56:22] it's like badly cut. And he was in [00:56:24] communication with her during that [00:56:25] interview, according to the person that [00:56:27] worked in Andrew Kovett's office that no [00:56:29] longer does. So, I got to go back and [00:56:31] just now track how many lies I was told [00:56:33] because I'm now I'm getting the [00:56:34] information from the people that were on [00:56:36] the inside inside. Anyways, Mama Essa [00:56:39] writes, "I love Nimi. My faves are the [00:56:41] buzzing bee balm and the four lips and [00:56:43] the elbows body wash and butter. It [00:56:45] smells divine. Tallows and serums. Um, I [00:56:47] love your sass and your sarcasm and [00:56:48] humor, too. Thanks for cracking me up [00:56:49] while being uh great uh and full of [00:56:53] poise and grace and kindness, dignity, [00:56:54] strength and beauty from Contessa. Thank [00:56:56] you, Mama Essa Contessa. And yeah, I [00:57:00] actually do love the the the tallow. The [00:57:02] tallow cream is really nice. Totally [00:57:04] awesome writes, Candace, will you please [00:57:06] tell us more about Charlie Kirk's [00:57:07] children, parents, and Eric Kirk's [00:57:09] father and halfsister? Also, people [00:57:10] think I'm nuts for listening to you, but [00:57:12] we don't. No, no, but we know. Um what I [00:57:14] would say I children are off limits [00:57:17] always. children are innocent and they [00:57:19] should be protected and and every chance [00:57:20] that I get I just that seems for me to [00:57:23] just not be a topic that I want to cover [00:57:24] these those are Charlie's children but [00:57:27] speaking about Erica's background we're [00:57:31] going to do I told you that we have a a [00:57:33] week break coming up not next week the [00:57:35] week after and during that week we'll [00:57:37] we'll get things together and have two [00:57:39] episodes just kind of a profile focus [00:57:41] separating fact from fiction Monzo [00:57:44] writes I watched the Rabbi Barklay [00:57:46] interview after you mentioned it [00:57:47] yesterday just wow My skin was crawling, [00:57:49] but I could not stop watching him bury [00:57:51] himself in his own psycho babble. Thank [00:57:53] you for all that you do, Candace Crisis [00:57:54] King. Honestly, it it's a journey. [00:57:56] You're just like, "Oh, you're just a [00:57:58] Jewish supremacist." It's like, he's [00:58:00] like, "No, we better than you. Oh, don't [00:58:03] you understand? You must worship us at [00:58:06] all times. That's what you're getting [00:58:08] wrong. The only that matters is us. We [00:58:11] are the people we love the most and you [00:58:13] must worship us." And I was just like [00:58:15] trying to take notes and really [00:58:17] understand things. And that probably was [00:58:20] part of the beginning of the end of my [00:58:22] support for Zionism because I now [00:58:23] believe that it is a objectively racist [00:58:26] philosophy. [00:58:28] I don't see how anybody could argue [00:58:29] that. And most don't. They just whine on [00:58:31] the internet, but they don't want to [00:58:32] actually sit down and have a debate [00:58:33] about those things. Uh lastly, oh nope. [00:58:38] I think I got everything here. Yeah, I [00:58:39] got everything. We are good. All right, [00:58:41] you guys. We will see you on Monday.