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[00:00:03] You're telling me that there are [00:00:05] companies that are listed that receive [00:00:09] transportation payments that don't [00:00:10] exist. [00:00:13] When I say they don't exist, all they [00:00:16] are is registered with the state of [00:00:18] Minnesota. They're a slip of paper. They [00:00:20] don't exist. They have no office. They [00:00:22] have no assets. [00:00:23] >> So, it's a it's a scam. [00:00:24] >> It's a total scam. [00:00:25] >> So, here's to the people of Minnesota. [00:00:27] your governor, you better answer these [00:00:30] questions. [00:00:31] What can we do? We can get you here and [00:00:35] hold you accountable for the programs [00:00:37] you're running in Minnesota. Miss [00:00:39] Robbins, are you here to tell me that [00:00:41] the system in Minnesota is broken and [00:00:44] you're having a hard time getting people [00:00:45] to help you? [00:00:47] >> Thank you. The system is absolutely [00:00:49] broken. There are fraud on multiple [00:00:51] levels. There are failures of internal [00:00:54] controls and finding your state [00:00:57] >> has not been responsive. [00:00:59] >> No, they have actively I would say uh [00:01:03] harmed whistleblowers who tried to uh [00:01:05] point it out and they have tried to shut [00:01:07] down investigations. [00:01:08] >> You said fake meals for fake kids. [00:01:11] >> Yes. Uh would it help if you had to [00:01:14] biometrically identify uh recipients of [00:01:17] aid that they'd have to [00:01:20] be a biometrically identified to prove [00:01:21] they exist? [00:01:23] >> I think it certainly would help. I'm I'm [00:01:25] a privacy advocate, so I'd want to [00:01:27] understand the details of [00:01:28] >> Well, number one, prove you exist. [00:01:31] >> Yes, prove you exist. Like very basic. [00:01:33] >> That's not That's not a privacy problem. [00:01:35] If I'm going to give you money, is it [00:01:37] too much to ask that you prove you [00:01:39] exist? [00:01:39] >> No. That's why we need documentation. [00:01:41] >> That's coming, [00:01:42] >> not at testation. [00:01:43] >> We're going to fix this. [00:01:47] It's coming. We're not going to sit on [00:01:49] the sidelines and watch billions of [00:01:51] dollars go to organizations that don't [00:01:54] exist, [00:01:56] rows of daycare facilities that don't [00:01:59] provide daycare. [00:02:01] It's in Minnesota. [00:02:03] Bless you both trying to fix it. Is [00:02:06] there any doubt, Mr. Hulk [00:02:11] to the extent of the problem that is [00:02:13] billions in Minnesota. [00:02:16] >> Again, we don't know what the number is [00:02:17] going to be. It's going to be I it could [00:02:20] be 80 billion if you go back. [00:02:21] >> You just don't know. [00:02:22] >> I we we don't know. But to the point [00:02:25] about politicians knowing, so I filed a [00:02:28] criminal complaint against Governor [00:02:30] Walls for violating the law for not [00:02:32] reporting. just I think when you ask the [00:02:36] Medicaid services in in Minnesota [00:02:39] tell us who you give money to that's not [00:02:41] unreasonable. So what I would think this [00:02:44] committee should do quite frankly is [00:02:46] that we should ask for an accounting [00:02:52] when Minnesota sends pay uh wants to get [00:02:56] reimbured for SNAP benefits. Are you [00:02:58] familiar with the SNAP program? [00:02:59] >> Yes sir. Do you have to provide names [00:03:01] who got the benefits or they just give [00:03:03] you a number? [00:03:05] >> My understanding is that there is a list [00:03:07] um and the federal government is trying [00:03:08] to get it from Minnesota. [00:03:10] >> Well, I'm I'm telling you we can't. [00:03:12] >> Right. They're they're stonewalling. [00:03:14] >> That's right. They're stonewalling, [00:03:16] taxpayers, [00:03:18] minority taxpayers. [00:03:21] No matter what the color of your skin, [00:03:23] you work hard for your money. and the [00:03:26] people at the top in Minnesota are [00:03:29] trying to perpetuate the fraud. In my [00:03:31] view, you can say what you want to about [00:03:33] Trump. That's not why we're here. Seems [00:03:36] to me that we would want to make sure [00:03:39] that a transportation company on paper [00:03:42] actually exist. [00:03:44] It seems to me that if we want to feed a [00:03:46] kid, they actually exist. [00:03:49] And you know what? They're not giving us [00:03:52] the data to prove that they actually [00:03:54] exist. [00:03:55] So, how in the world can we as the [00:03:59] federal government allow this to [00:04:01] continue? We are not. Mr. Robinson, are [00:04:05] you begging us to help you? [00:04:06] >> Yes. And we're grateful for the help [00:04:08] that's come recently from the Trump [00:04:09] administration and from our partners [00:04:11] here in these committees. [00:04:12] >> Mr. Hulk, are you begging this committee [00:04:14] to help you? [00:04:15] >> Yes. [00:04:17] >> Message received. Mr. Weissman, I don't [00:04:19] want to waste your time or mine. Bottom [00:04:22] line is we're going to find a way to [00:04:25] help the taxpayer. I don't mind. I like [00:04:29] feeding kids who are hungry and can't [00:04:31] afford to get a meal unless they get one [00:04:33] at school. I don't mind helping Medicaid [00:04:36] people to get to where they want to go. [00:04:38] I do mind when we're getting ripped off. [00:04:42] And to the leadership of Minnesota, your [00:04:46] day is coming. And if you think it's [00:04:48] just Minnesota, [00:04:51] Senator Corn, you're right. It's [00:04:52] everywhere. And we're going to find it. [00:04:55] That's the least we can do [00:04:58] as managers of these programs. God bless [00:05:00] you all.