Trump Admin Is Hitting the Reset Button in Minnesota?

[00:00:00] The big news of the day is this Bevino [00:00:03] story. We got to get into it. So Blake, [00:00:05] why don't you set up the backdrop for [00:00:07] this and then we'll get into what we [00:00:08] know. We've been calling people trying [00:00:10] to get the inside scoop. [00:00:11] >> Well, so Bevino is the he's kind of been [00:00:14] the point man for a lot of the drama [00:00:16] that's been unfolding with ICE in [00:00:18] Minnesota. It's almost it's almost worth [00:00:20] reminding people the full arc of how we [00:00:22] got here, which is last fall. Well, [00:00:25] okay. The full full arc of how we got [00:00:27] here. [00:00:27] >> How far back do we want to go? 1964 [00:00:30] >> during the last glacial maximum the [00:00:32] glaciers created a bunch of lakes in [00:00:34] Minnesota thus making it a pleasant [00:00:36] place for people to live and so a bunch [00:00:38] and it resembled Finland and Sweden and [00:00:40] so a bunch of Finns and Swedes moved to [00:00:43] Minnesota and they made a great state [00:00:44] and it was very pleasant but it was kind [00:00:47] of progressive it was a little leftwing [00:00:49] and they they have a dog goodter impulse [00:00:50] to them and a bunch of Somali moved a [00:00:52] lot of people moved there including yes [00:00:54] many Somali they built a big welfare [00:00:56] state that has started to go a little [00:00:58] bit ary much like the one in Sweden. And [00:01:01] so we had it was not really a [00:01:03] coincidence that George Floyd unfolded [00:01:05] in Minneapolis. That would not have [00:01:07] unfolded the way it did if it had [00:01:08] happened [00:01:09] >> in Atlanta, in Texas, in other states. [00:01:13] Kind of had to happen in Minnesota. And [00:01:15] since then, we've been repeatedly going [00:01:17] back there. So that's a little setup. [00:01:19] Anyway, this past fall we had that drama [00:01:22] with people noticed the smalle fraud [00:01:24] stuff which has been going on for years [00:01:25] and in fact been getting prosecuted and [00:01:27] covered for years. [00:01:28] >> You were early on this by the way. [00:01:29] >> But yeah, we weren't like feeding our [00:01:31] future was going on in 21 and 22 and [00:01:34] then you remember when we had KMU on and [00:01:35] he said, "Yeah, all these there's a [00:01:37] giant autism scam going on in Minnesota, [00:01:40] all this fraud." And then lo and behold, [00:01:42] that was blown up. So we had uh you know [00:01:44] Chris Rufo was covering it and then of [00:01:46] course Nick Shirley was covering it as [00:01:48] well. just the realization, oh caused [00:01:51] this surge, [00:01:51] >> huge huge surge of attention on it of [00:01:53] what fraud is going on. And so then ICE, [00:01:56] which has been pursuing its immigration [00:01:58] activities, they sort of seized on this, [00:02:00] oh well, let's let's do a surge in [00:02:02] Minnesota. It's a good symbol of how [00:02:04] serious we are on finding fraudsters, [00:02:06] finding criminals, and deporting them. [00:02:08] And so we have the surge there. And [00:02:10] Bevino, as you said, is he's kind of the [00:02:12] on the ground symbolic leader of this. [00:02:15] He's almost like the mascot of Border [00:02:17] Patrol, which is distinct from ICE, [00:02:20] which is an important distinction. So, [00:02:22] you know, typically Bevino would not be [00:02:24] up [00:02:25] >> in Minneapolis, right? So, he was [00:02:28] brought there as a part of the surge to [00:02:29] oversee it. He is this kind of folk hero [00:02:32] among a lot of the border patrol. Uh [00:02:35] we've got some images of of Greg. He's a [00:02:37] total patriot, by the way. Total [00:02:39] patriot. Um, but things have gone arai [00:02:42] and there is infighting within some of [00:02:46] the ranks of ICE, Border Patrol, even [00:02:49] there's differing opinions at the [00:02:50] administration. But here's what I can [00:02:52] tell you is that everybody's committed [00:02:55] to the president's immigration agenda. [00:02:57] That's what I have ascertained. I've [00:02:59] been calling around asking my sources up [00:03:01] there. Everybody's committed to it. But [00:03:03] there is a difference of tactics, of [00:03:06] messaging, of presentation. [00:03:08] >> Yeah. And it's just funny how symbolic [00:03:09] it is because I believe he's he's [00:03:11] commander of the border patrol. And so [00:03:12] it is a little funny that he was there, [00:03:14] but he what he was is he had that [00:03:16] bravado of oh we're here, we're tough. [00:03:18] He's like parading around in public to [00:03:21] show frankly that he's not afraid of all [00:03:22] the ICE people and or the anti-ICE [00:03:25] protesters, which is a big deal because [00:03:27] people have openly fantasized about [00:03:29] wanting this guy shot. They've openly [00:03:31] fantasized I think someone even put out [00:03:33] a hit on him, I believe. [00:03:34] >> Yeah. His family is in hiding. [00:03:36] >> Yes. [00:03:36] >> Just so you're aware. This guy is a very [00:03:38] brave man and he he put himself out [00:03:40] there for the agenda. But he also as a [00:03:42] result became symbolic of the [00:03:44] difficulties that happened in [00:03:45] Minneapolis which unfortunately we've [00:03:47] had two shootings. Uh we've had a lot of [00:03:51] chaos in the city mostly driven by the [00:03:53] left of course. Charlie Kirk believed [00:03:55] courage and conviction still matter. He [00:03:57] wanted every Christian to stand firm in [00:03:59] their faith no matter the cost. That's [00:04:01] why the voice of the martyrs is offering [00:04:02] you a free copy of extreme devotion. [00:04:05] Inside are true stories of Christians in [00:04:07] places like China, Iran, and Nigeria who [00:04:09] refused to deny Jesus Christ even in the [00:04:12] face of imprisonment or death. Charlie's [00:04:15] passion was to see that kind of faith in [00:04:17] all of us. Get your free copy today at [00:04:19] vom.org/charlie. [00:04:21] That's vom.org/charlie. [00:04:28] Well, in the new one, Prey, is I think [00:04:31] where we're getting a lot of this [00:04:32] consternation because listen, I will [00:04:36] defend ICE all day long. As a matter of [00:04:39] fact, I'm going to continue to because I [00:04:41] think they're amazing heroes. But there [00:04:43] are some ICE agents and Border Patrol [00:04:46] that that feel like we need a new [00:04:48] approach, a a re we need to hit the [00:04:50] reset button in Minneapolis. You see Tom [00:04:53] Hman, who's been on this show many [00:04:55] times. We love Tom. I think it's a great [00:04:56] it's a great move. Great. Mix it up. But [00:05:00] Bavino has now so there was some [00:05:03] confusion yesterday. Bovino gets [00:05:04] relieved of duty. Did he get fired? Did [00:05:06] he get did he is he now transferred? [00:05:09] >> So he's and then his social media was [00:05:11] shut down. He was mixing it up on social [00:05:13] media with some lawmakers who were [00:05:15] overreacting. By the way, again, I [00:05:18] basically agree with everything Bavino [00:05:20] was saying. He's absolutely right to [00:05:22] have our ICE agents back, to have border [00:05:24] patrols back, but some of the details I [00:05:28] think were misplaced. I think some of [00:05:30] the initial reaction was based on faulty [00:05:33] information about the altercation with [00:05:35] Prey. And so there there's movement [00:05:39] happening, right? But he's not been [00:05:40] fired. And essentially what happened was [00:05:42] Bovino was put on ice for a second. [00:05:46] President Trump put on ice. [00:05:48] >> Yeah. Well, he was Oh, put on ice. I [00:05:50] didn't even mean to do that. President [00:05:52] Trump says this guy's a hero. He's a [00:05:54] patriot. He's on the team. We're keeping [00:05:56] him keeping him on his post. And so he's [00:05:58] on his post, but H Homeman's coming in. [00:06:00] He's going to he's going to shake things [00:06:02] up. Why I like this, and I will tell [00:06:04] you, Bo is an actual operator, right? [00:06:07] He's he's less of the policy wonk guy, [00:06:09] less of the architect of the but he is [00:06:11] an absolute architect. He's a real tough [00:06:14] guy. Bovino is a tough guy, too. But Tom [00:06:17] Hman, absolute field general. He's in [00:06:20] the he's now in the field meeting with [00:06:22] people. And what we've seen, and I think [00:06:26] I think the internet's got this all [00:06:27] wrong. A lot of people are saying [00:06:28] President Trump blinked. You know, he [00:06:30] had this call with Fry Fry. He had a [00:06:32] call with Waltz. What they're doing is a [00:06:36] huge, huge deal. We are now seeing [00:06:39] Minneapolis PD [00:06:42] rush in to defend federal law [00:06:44] enforcement. That's a big change. That's [00:06:46] a positive change after the calls with [00:06:49] the president. So, we're seeing movement [00:06:51] here. We're seeing a little give and [00:06:53] take. I I do not see anybody saying [00:06:56] we're not going to arrest all the [00:06:57] illegals. Nobody's saying that. We're [00:07:00] you you do you do see a little bit of a [00:07:02] uh worse first messaging. Now, as long [00:07:04] as that's just the messaging, I'm okay [00:07:06] with it. And Blake, before we we came in [00:07:08] to the show today, you were making I [00:07:10] thought a really amazing point. [00:07:11] Sometimes I wish you guys could see all [00:07:13] of our our pre-show discussions, but you [00:07:16] were basically saying competence is what [00:07:18] matters. It's not even okay, message how [00:07:20] you're going to message, but we need [00:07:22] competence and we need to stop being as [00:07:25] performative for social media. We just [00:07:26] need to get the job done. Explound on [00:07:29] that point if you can. Well, so a lot of [00:07:31] the drama that's been happening with ICE [00:07:33] is I I think it's downstream of things [00:07:36] the administration has done to show that [00:07:38] they're serious and we want them to be [00:07:39] serious. But what I think Bovino became [00:07:42] a symbol of is like [00:07:46] >> performative [00:07:47] >> performative stuff. And some of this is [00:07:49] is stuff I've heard people complain [00:07:50] about like for lack of a better term [00:07:53] some stuff they'll do. It's almost like [00:07:54] it's intended to look a little cruel or [00:07:58] callous. And I think it is important to [00:08:02] be ser like dead serious. And it's [00:08:03] obviously great when they're saying, [00:08:04] "Oh, this person we arrested was a [00:08:06] rapist. This person we arrested was a [00:08:08] criminal." you definitely communicate [00:08:09] that seriousness, but sometimes it does [00:08:12] go a little bit beyond that and and [00:08:14] that's what ends up like bothering a lot [00:08:16] of people. [00:08:17] >> Uh now, you can't allow those people to [00:08:19] say, "Oh, so we're going to suspend uh [00:08:22] deportations now. Oh, we're going to [00:08:23] pull ICE back. Oh, deportations are [00:08:24] canceled because this made me feel bad." [00:08:26] You don't give in on that point, but you [00:08:28] do have to be smart about things. And I [00:08:31] think the way Trump is, President Trump [00:08:33] is reacting to this is is telling [00:08:36] because I think some people really [00:08:37] wanted to do a bigger pullback. I think [00:08:39] some people probably wanted Greg Mavino [00:08:41] to just be fired and cast aside, say [00:08:43] this whole thing was bad. And I think [00:08:45] the president's instincts are no, we can [00:08:47] swap out personnel, but if I start [00:08:49] firing people or really signaling a [00:08:51] pullback, it's going to show it's going [00:08:53] to set off this cascade of weakness. [00:08:54] Yeah. Whereas with sending in Tom Hman, [00:08:56] Tom H. Homeman is a longtime [00:08:58] professional. He's pretty good at the [00:08:59] more [00:09:01] He's pretty good at disciplined [00:09:02] messaging on this and I think he can say [00:09:05] we'll have homeman running this [00:09:06] operation and he can communicate what [00:09:09] our agenda is that we're focus that you [00:09:11] know most of the people we're getting [00:09:12] are criminals that [00:09:13] >> he can sort of reset the tone of what's [00:09:15] going on without pulling back too [00:09:17] decisively. Right.