How Wokeness Ruined UCLA
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[00:20:42] my name is ysy Frankle I'm a law student
[00:20:45] here at the law school I'm a father of
[00:20:47] four and I'm proud to serve as one of
[00:20:49] the executive board members for Young
[00:20:51] Americans for Freedom here at UCLA since
[00:20:54] Ben Shapiro last spoke here at his Alma
[00:20:56] moer UCLA in 2017
[00:20:58] louder
[00:21:00] sorry things have gotten much worse with
[00:21:03] the help of the Becket fund for
[00:21:05] religious liberties we have sued UCLA
[00:21:07] and we're able to get a court
[00:21:09] [Applause]
[00:21:14] order stating that UCLA's Behavior
[00:21:17] towards Jews during the encampments last
[00:21:19] spring was abhorent and
[00:21:22] unimaginable nevertheless UCLA persists
[00:21:25] in claiming it did nothing wrong
[00:21:29] if that violation of civil rights wasn't
[00:21:30] enough for you UCLA cave to the Mob last
[00:21:33] semester and blocked our speaker Robert
[00:21:36] Spencer at the last minute yaf and
[00:21:39] Mountain State Legal Foundation have
[00:21:41] filed the lawsuit for that one
[00:21:49] too things could be better for UCLA
[00:21:52] we're actually quite surprised to find
[00:21:54] ourselves aloud in here in this venue
[00:21:55] tonight as UCLA unconstitu
[00:21:59] blocked our last
[00:22:03] event no luck tonight but we're
[00:22:06] persisting and we're fighting back if
[00:22:08] you're a student here at UCLA and you
[00:22:10] want to join the team and make a
[00:22:12] positive impact here at UCLA please
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[00:22:17] YF I'd also like to give a shout out to
[00:22:20] Chairman Matthew Weinberg and vice
[00:22:21] chairman Brian fallace they did a ton of
[00:22:24] work behind the scenes they're true
[00:22:26] Patriots I also want to to thank young
[00:22:29] America's foundation and the generous
[00:22:31] sponsor who made it possible for us to
[00:22:33] have Ben Shapiro here with us tonight as
[00:22:36] part of the things that matter lecture
[00:22:38] series and now without further Ado I
[00:22:41] have the honor of introducing our
[00:22:42] speaker for tonight's
[00:22:44] lecture Ben chapiro is the
[00:22:47] [Applause]
[00:22:53] co-founder Ben chapiro is the co-founder
[00:22:55] and editor ameritus of the daily wire
[00:22:58] and host of the Ben Shapiro show the
[00:23:01] largest and fastest growing conservative
[00:23:03] podcast and Radio Show in the nation in
[00:23:07] addition he also hosts debunked Ben
[00:23:10] aero's book club the search and the very
[00:23:13] popular Sunday special please join me in
[00:23:15] welcoming Ben Shapiro
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[00:23:36] that's very sweet of you thank you so
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[00:23:43] much that's very sweet of you thank you
[00:23:45] so much it's been a while since I've
[00:23:48] been back here first I want to say thank
[00:23:50] you to yaf of course for all of their
[00:23:51] hard work on campus thanks to all of you
[00:23:52] for coming out I know that they're still
[00:23:55] gradually slowly allowing students in uh
[00:23:58] they trying to hold some hundreds of
[00:23:59] students outside they're letting them in
[00:24:01] 20 at a time so I'll speak a little
[00:24:02] slower than usual
[00:24:05] which I want to thank the anonymous
[00:24:08] sponsor of the things that matter our
[00:24:09] lecture series as well so listen I have
[00:24:12] a lot of amazing memories from this
[00:24:13] particular campus I originally came to
[00:24:15] this campus in the year 2000 so it's
[00:24:17] been quite a while I was 16 at the time
[00:24:20] and yeah I have some great memories here
[00:24:22] I met my wife right next door to this
[00:24:24] campus uh right off campus here I used
[00:24:25] to bring her dinner at po Library while
[00:24:28] she was studying for her for her biology
[00:24:30] classes after I came back from law
[00:24:33] school and lot a lot of great things
[00:24:35] happened to me on this particular campus
[00:24:36] I have a lot of fondness for this campus
[00:24:39] and then I have some bad memories as
[00:24:40] well from this particular campus so back
[00:24:42] in 2002 I used to write for the UCLA
[00:24:45] daily Bru what actually got me into
[00:24:47] politics was the craziness of this
[00:24:49] campus when I first came to UCLA at the
[00:24:51] age of 16 I thought I was going to
[00:24:53] double major in music I was a fairly
[00:24:55] good violinist at the time I was going
[00:24:56] to double major in music and by ology
[00:24:59] and none of those two things came true
[00:25:00] because I was walking down Bruin walk
[00:25:02] and I picked up a copy of the daily
[00:25:03] Bruin and there was an editorial
[00:25:05] comparing comparing Ariel Chiron then
[00:25:07] the prime minister of Israel to adman
[00:25:10] the Nazi and I promptly walked into the
[00:25:12] UCLA daily Brun offices and asked if I
[00:25:14] could write a counter and at the time
[00:25:15] they said yes that turned into a regular
[00:25:17] column which turned into eventually my
[00:25:18] syndicated column but the reason I
[00:25:20] stopped writing for the UCLA daily Brun
[00:25:22] is of some note so this is back in 2002
[00:25:26] I had submitted I think 35 columns or so
[00:25:29] while I was writing for the UCLA daily
[00:25:30] Bru and all of them had been accepted
[00:25:32] except for two and they were on the
[00:25:34] exact same topic every other column I
[00:25:35] wrote I it was some pretty provocative
[00:25:37] stuff like stuff I would not write today
[00:25:39] and there were two columns specifically
[00:25:41] that they rejected and they were both on
[00:25:43] the exact same topic and that was the
[00:25:45] radicalism of the Muslim Student
[00:25:46] Association on campus they would not
[00:25:48] allow me to write this they would not
[00:25:50] allow me to write or quote the Muslim
[00:25:53] news magazine on campus which at the
[00:25:54] time I don't know it's called now was
[00:25:55] called Al Talib at the time that Muslim
[00:25:58] news magazine happened to be so radical
[00:25:59] that it had joked just before September
[00:26:01] 11th about changing the name of the
[00:26:03] magazine to Al Taliban and making Osama
[00:26:05] Bin Laden editorinchief it's unfortunate
[00:26:07] timing but they didn't want me writing
[00:26:10] about any of this stuff they didn't want
[00:26:11] me writing about the fact that the MSA
[00:26:13] had nationally fund rais for
[00:26:14] organizations with Terror ties and
[00:26:16] eventually after they refused to publish
[00:26:19] these columns I went public with that
[00:26:20] and they ended up firing me from the
[00:26:22] daily Bruin in Fairly public fashion
[00:26:24] that was all the way back in 2002 and it
[00:26:27] turns out that not much changed because
[00:26:28] you fast forward about 12 years and that
[00:26:30] was kind of my next big moment on this
[00:26:32] campus it was In This Very Room actually
[00:26:35] there's a big hearing before all of your
[00:26:37] times there's a big hearing here it's a
[00:26:38] decade ago about boycott divestment and
[00:26:41] sanctions from the state of Israel and
[00:26:44] my wife and I were living in the valley
[00:26:45] at the time now we have fled this God
[00:26:47] awul State for the warmer climbs of
[00:26:50] Florida a free country
[00:26:53] and we started getting notifications
[00:26:56] that this hearing was not going well
[00:26:58] that people were getting up and lying
[00:26:59] about what Israel was doing that there
[00:27:01] was a lot of anti-Semitism that was
[00:27:02] being evinced in the room and so we had
[00:27:05] just had our first baby I turned to my
[00:27:06] wife and I said here sweetheart hold the
[00:27:08] baby I'm going to get in our crappy
[00:27:10] Honda cord and I'm going to drive over
[00:27:12] the hill and I'm going to come here and
[00:27:13] I came in here and I went to the front
[00:27:16] of the line and I proceeded to deliver a
[00:27:18] bit of a two-minute di tribe about why
[00:27:20] BDS was anti-semitic which it is and the
[00:27:23] diet tribe was very simple it went
[00:27:25] something like this the only reason that
[00:27:27] you give a damn about what is is doing
[00:27:28] is because it's filled with Jews there's
[00:27:29] a whole set of countries all over the
[00:27:31] Middle East that are constantly engaging
[00:27:34] in the worst human rights atrocities on
[00:27:36] planet Earth you don't seem to have a
[00:27:37] word for them you don't seem to have a
[00:27:39] word about the atrocities committed by
[00:27:40] Hamas you don't seem to have a word
[00:27:42] about the atrocities committed by
[00:27:43] Palestinian Authority or Islamic Jihad
[00:27:45] the only people you seem to care about
[00:27:46] are the Jews and that's for one reason
[00:27:48] and one reason only and that's because
[00:27:49] you don't like Jews and this went fairly
[00:27:52] viral they ended up voting down BDS that
[00:27:54] time of course later the student
[00:27:55] government would go ahead and vote in
[00:27:56] favor of BDS so nothing has changed
[00:27:59] since 2014 and then of course there was
[00:28:01] last year when we all sort of watched
[00:28:02] agog as the administration simply
[00:28:04] allowed the tentata to take place on
[00:28:07] campus people blocking off the quad
[00:28:10] because apparently they experience a
[00:28:12] certain Joy at living in their own
[00:28:15] feces and I understand this is
[00:28:17] California and that's actually like a
[00:28:18] cherished way of life here but
[00:28:20] still blocking students from actually
[00:28:23] accessing places like pow Library places
[00:28:25] of which I have fond memories and the
[00:28:27] school doing Absolut absolutely nothing
[00:28:28] and then finally after the tentata is
[00:28:31] cleared 800 University of California
[00:28:32] faculty and staff asking demanding
[00:28:35] actually that all legal charges be
[00:28:37] dropped and amnesty be granted to all
[00:28:39] students staff and faculty who were
[00:28:40] involved in the encampment in peaceful
[00:28:42] protests peaceful would be a euphemism
[00:28:43] therefore for totally not particularly
[00:28:45] peaceful so the reason I'm retelling
[00:28:48] these stories is because not much has
[00:28:49] changed I wrote a book again 20 years
[00:28:52] ago now 2004 called brainwashed how
[00:28:54] universities indoctrinate America's
[00:28:55] Youth and it was all about UCLA if you
[00:28:57] go back and read the book now it's
[00:28:58] quoting professors who are still working
[00:29:00] at UCLA the only thing that has changed
[00:29:03] is that it's just gotten significantly
[00:29:05] worse and significantly more open at the
[00:29:07] time I was mentioning something not a
[00:29:08] lot of people knew about now of course
[00:29:10] everybody knows about this and it is
[00:29:12] wide open and it is very clear and so
[00:29:15] the question becomes why did it become
[00:29:17] so much worse and the answer is that
[00:29:19] this University among other universities
[00:29:21] has decided to coddle an entire
[00:29:23] generation of
[00:29:24] losers an entire Coalition of losers
[00:29:34] and it is a coalition is a group of
[00:29:36] groups that have decided for various
[00:29:38] reasons really only one reason to
[00:29:39] associate with one another people who
[00:29:40] would never get along in regular life
[00:29:42] except they share one thing and that is
[00:29:44] hatred of the system take for example
[00:29:46] queers for Palestine the most
[00:29:48] self-contradictory group in the history
[00:29:49] of all groups it's chickens for
[00:29:55] KFC it makes zero sense of course
[00:29:57] because whatever quers there are in
[00:29:59] Palestine are no longer alive having
[00:30:00] been thrown off
[00:30:02] Roes but what exactly is behind all of
[00:30:04] that well it actually is pretty simple
[00:30:07] people who believe that they are members
[00:30:08] of victimized marginalized groups get
[00:30:11] together and decide that they are going
[00:30:12] to tear down the system from within that
[00:30:14] is the most important thing it doesn't
[00:30:15] matter if members of these various
[00:30:16] groups actually want to kill one another
[00:30:18] the most important thing is that the
[00:30:19] system in which they live is terrible
[00:30:21] and awful and so what you get is some of
[00:30:23] the most privileged obnoxious people on
[00:30:24] Earth hanging out with each other in
[00:30:27] places where they would never hang out
[00:30:28] with one another simply to yell at the
[00:30:30] University to yell at Jews to yell at
[00:30:33] the United States to yell at Western
[00:30:34] Civilization to talk about how they have
[00:30:37] occupied native land and all the rest of
[00:30:39] this sort of trash and whenever people
[00:30:41] by the way give land acknowledgements
[00:30:43] the first question you should ask is so
[00:30:44] why don't you give it back like anytime
[00:30:46] you're right here you can't float three
[00:30:47] feet above the Earth so if you want to
[00:30:48] give it back like your apartment is now
[00:30:49] available to any person who is of a
[00:30:52] Heritage that is older than yours in
[00:30:54] this country so what exactly does this
[00:30:56] Coalition of losers scavengers and they
[00:30:58] are they're scavengers what we are in
[00:30:59] right now in the United States and in
[00:31:00] western civilization generally is a
[00:31:02] battle between what I call the Lions and
[00:31:04] the Scavengers people who actually like
[00:31:05] to produce people who wish to build
[00:31:06] social fabric people who wish to fight
[00:31:08] for Central principles of Western
[00:31:09] civilization and people who only care
[00:31:11] about tearing all of those things down
[00:31:13] so what is it that they believe what
[00:31:14] unites them well there are really three
[00:31:17] things three basic beliefs that unite
[00:31:19] them belief number one is that there is
[00:31:21] no such thing as a duty you owe to other
[00:31:22] people there is just the stuff you want
[00:31:25] more than anything else what you want is
[00:31:27] what matters who you are is a series of
[00:31:29] wants in fact and anyone who denies you
[00:31:31] those wants is in some way oppressing
[00:31:33] and exploiting you that is belief number
[00:31:35] one belief number two is that all
[00:31:38] disparity equals discrimination that if
[00:31:41] there is a disparity between groups
[00:31:42] along any lines that must be the result
[00:31:44] of exploitation and discrimination so if
[00:31:46] one group is economically
[00:31:48] underperforming it's not because members
[00:31:49] of that group for example have a higher
[00:31:51] single motherhood rate or their kids
[00:31:52] study less or anything like that it must
[00:31:55] instead be that the system is built in
[00:31:57] order to explore that oppressed group of
[00:31:59] people in this Matrix failure equals
[00:32:02] victimization and success equals
[00:32:05] victimizer if you are a success if you
[00:32:07] have succeeded in life it's because you
[00:32:10] must have necessarily by definition
[00:32:13] exploited someone you did something
[00:32:14] wrong you hurt somebody and finally
[00:32:17] there's a third principle and that is
[00:32:18] that if there is any group that is both
[00:32:21] victimized and successful that group
[00:32:23] does not exist it's not real so if you
[00:32:26] were to look at for example Asian
[00:32:27] Americans historically victimized in the
[00:32:29] United States disproportionately
[00:32:31] educationally successful they're no
[00:32:32] longer Asian they are now white adjacent
[00:32:35] they don't count because you cannot have
[00:32:36] a group that violates the rules any
[00:32:38] group that is successful is a victimizer
[00:32:40] so if you can identify a group that is
[00:32:42] successful and that is not a victimizer
[00:32:44] and is in fact disproportionately a
[00:32:46] victim group that group does not exist
[00:32:49] Jews therefore are white Asians are
[00:32:51] white adjacent hey these are the beliefs
[00:32:54] that bind together this Coalition of
[00:32:56] losers so exactly who is in the
[00:32:58] Coalition of losers a few categories in
[00:33:00] the Coalition of losers some of them are
[00:33:02] Imports so there are a group of foreign
[00:33:04] students who are sponsored from abroad
[00:33:06] who come here and don't like American
[00:33:08] values very much who don't like private
[00:33:09] property who don't like Western
[00:33:10] Civilization who don't like free speech
[00:33:12] who don't like judeo chrisan values and
[00:33:14] who believe that they are the voice of
[00:33:16] the colonized and are therefore here to
[00:33:18] tear away at the system there are some
[00:33:21] of those people and there's good data to
[00:33:23] suggest that many of the protests that
[00:33:24] we've been seeing on campus are actually
[00:33:26] sponsored from abroad
[00:33:28] an official ofah the Lebanese terrorist
[00:33:30] group the Iranian front group recently
[00:33:32] admitted that they have been funding
[00:33:33] student protests from abroad via front
[00:33:35] groups again that's nothing new this
[00:33:37] been happening for decades ail Haynes
[00:33:39] who's the director of National
[00:33:40] Intelligence confirms that some of these
[00:33:42] protests have been funded by Iran
[00:33:44] there's nothing new here it just used to
[00:33:46] be that in the United States we didn't
[00:33:47] tolerate that sort of thing it used to
[00:33:49] be that in the United States if you came
[00:33:51] here we had a general rule you have to
[00:33:52] like the place and if you don't like the
[00:33:54] place you can go you can leave and if if
[00:33:57] you won't leave we will make you
[00:34:05] leave then there are the marxists these
[00:34:08] are the people who feel truly
[00:34:09] dispossessed in literally the richest
[00:34:11] nation in the history of the world
[00:34:13] people who believe that they are
[00:34:15] victimized as they tweet from their
[00:34:16] iPhone
[00:34:17] 16s people believe that capitalism is a
[00:34:20] rapacious system of wealth destruction
[00:34:22] as they shop at Gucci right those are
[00:34:25] the people who occupy this campus large
[00:34:27] largely many of them are in the
[00:34:28] professor being paid Rich taxpayer
[00:34:30] sponsored salaries to teach absolute
[00:34:32] trash and random nonsense in careers
[00:34:36] that would not exist outside of their
[00:34:37] various departments I'm looking at you
[00:34:43] sociology these marxists do not like the
[00:34:46] West they think that capitalism is the
[00:34:48] root of all evil and they are willing to
[00:34:50] Ally with just about anyone if it means
[00:34:52] they get to tear away at what they
[00:34:53] believe is the capitalist infrastructure
[00:34:56] so that is another group so you have
[00:34:57] Imports you have marxists then you have
[00:34:59] the transgresses these are folks who
[00:35:01] feel marginalized in their own personal
[00:35:04] lives these are people who believe that
[00:35:06] the traditional structures things like
[00:35:08] family and Church These are oppressive
[00:35:09] institutions that demand things of them
[00:35:11] that they don't want to give and
[00:35:13] therefore the system has victimized them
[00:35:14] and they have to tear it down too queers
[00:35:16] for Palestine would fall into exactly
[00:35:18] this group The
[00:35:28] because in order for you to feel truly
[00:35:30] free in order for you to be an
[00:35:32] autonomous individual you cannot have
[00:35:34] the imposition of any rule or any
[00:35:36] institution you have to tear away at
[00:35:38] every rule in every institution so you
[00:35:39] have to go in search of things that
[00:35:41] oppress you and then tear them down that
[00:35:43] is another part of the Coalition of
[00:35:44] losers and then finally you have the
[00:35:46] racialists these are people who deeply
[00:35:48] desire to divide Americans not by
[00:35:51] individual identity but by group
[00:35:52] identity identify people in the United
[00:35:55] States simply by Dent of racial group in
[00:35:58] the United States these would be people
[00:36:00] represented by the likes of the much
[00:36:02] celebrated and bhood complete
[00:36:04] tanasi coats a person who is so
[00:36:08] racialist in his Outlook that he once
[00:36:10] suggested that as he watched 9111 happen
[00:36:13] Stone from the top of a Brooklyn
[00:36:14] building he felt nothing because they
[00:36:17] were not human to him because they were
[00:36:18] representatives of the white super
[00:36:20] structure in the United States that is a
[00:36:21] person who is seen as a moral Clarion
[00:36:23] call by the racialists and by much of
[00:36:24] the leftwing media and indeed on campus
[00:36:26] I'm sure many of you have been assigned
[00:36:27] his trash books in your
[00:36:30] class now of course tanasi codes has
[00:36:32] written a new trash book he comes out
[00:36:34] with one every 10 years or so after
[00:36:37] visiting a place for two weeks he
[00:36:38] decides he knows everything there is to
[00:36:39] know about that place and then proceeds
[00:36:40] to write a book about how it turns out
[00:36:42] everything complex is actually Crystal
[00:36:44] Clear he writes in that book about his
[00:36:46] father he's talking about the
[00:36:47] Palestinians and the Israelis he says I
[00:36:49] remember watching World News Tonight
[00:36:50] with my father and dering from him a
[00:36:52] dull sense that the Israelis were white
[00:36:54] and the Palestinians were black which is
[00:36:55] to say that the former were the
[00:36:56] oppressors and the latter the oppressed
[00:36:59] this is a great thinker in the Modern
[00:37:01] Age tanasi codes so this Coalition of
[00:37:04] losers only have one thing in common
[00:37:06] because really they violate each other's
[00:37:07] rules if you were looking at imported
[00:37:10] radical fundamentalist Muslims from the
[00:37:12] Middle East for example and you are
[00:37:13] saying what do they have in common with
[00:37:15] transgressors the answer is nothing
[00:37:16] except they don't like the system if you
[00:37:18] are looking at the marxists and you say
[00:37:20] what do those people have in common with
[00:37:21] fundamentalist Muslims the answer is not
[00:37:23] a whole hell of a lot but they have in
[00:37:25] common the thing they want to tear down
[00:37:28] they are scavengers in other words now
[00:37:29] Society is not built on scavengers
[00:37:31] Society is built on the back of lions
[00:37:34] okay lions are different type of human
[00:37:36] being hey anybody can be a lion by the
[00:37:38] way when I say this and when I say
[00:37:39] they're a different type of person I
[00:37:40] mean people make themselves one or the
[00:37:42] other you make yourself in your life the
[00:37:43] choice between being a lion or being a
[00:37:45] scavenger lions are people who build
[00:37:48] lions are people who defend the
[00:37:50] civilization that has given them
[00:37:51] everything lions are people who
[00:37:56] innovate right CES are providers people
[00:37:59] who actually want to take us to the
[00:38:01] Stars people who generate new products
[00:38:02] people who go to work every day and put
[00:38:04] food on the table for their families
[00:38:06] because they're increasing the amount of
[00:38:08] good in the world they're using their
[00:38:10] labor and their productivity and their
[00:38:12] brains and their Innovation to make the
[00:38:13] world a better place for everyone and
[00:38:16] those are providers and they are lions
[00:38:17] and then there are warriors people who
[00:38:19] are out there on the front lines
[00:38:20] actually defending the things that truly
[00:38:22] matter in this note by the way I want to
[00:38:24] thank law enforcement for being here
[00:38:25] tonight and making this possible
[00:38:35] it's a great tragedy in the United
[00:38:36] States that so few Americans know
[00:38:38] members of the military these days
[00:38:40] because members of the military the
[00:38:41] people who are actually out on the front
[00:38:42] lines protecting Americans freedoms now
[00:38:45] those people are absolute Warriors and
[00:38:47] they deserve obviously not only our
[00:38:48] support but our love and our undying
[00:38:54] respect and I will say this not just
[00:38:56] warriors on behalf of the United States
[00:38:58] but warriors on behalf of the West in
[00:38:59] general I had the experience fairly
[00:39:00] recently back in June of visiting Israel
[00:39:02] in the middle of this war and I happened
[00:39:04] to be sitting during one of the
[00:39:06] afternoon prayers next to a 20-year-old
[00:39:09] who had just lost both of his legs one
[00:39:11] arm and two of his fingers on the other
[00:39:13] hand in the war in Gaza a 20-year-old
[00:39:16] kid American parents and he had you know
[00:39:20] they were going house to house in Gaza
[00:39:21] an IED had exploded a building killed
[00:39:23] many of his compatriots and he'd been
[00:39:25] Gravely wounded and he turned to me he
[00:39:27] listened to the show he turned to me
[00:39:29] right before I left avening and he said
[00:39:32] you know Ben I listen to the show I
[00:39:33] really appreciate what you do which is
[00:39:34] really you know upsetting because when
[00:39:36] somebody gives their limbs for Western
[00:39:38] Civilization you know talking for a
[00:39:39] living doesn't quite do it and and he
[00:39:41] said you what more can I do that is the
[00:39:44] mentality of Warriors all over western
[00:39:47] civilization and then there are the
[00:39:48] Weavers right these are the people who
[00:39:49] weave together the social fabric these
[00:39:51] are parents who set standards for their
[00:39:53] children these are teachers who teach
[00:39:56] kids actual values as opposed to the
[00:39:58] morally relativistic trash that they are
[00:40:00] taught at this University or teach small
[00:40:02] kids that boys can be girls and girls
[00:40:04] can be boys the
[00:40:05] [Applause]
[00:40:09] people these are the members of
[00:40:11] community who do charity work right
[00:40:13] these are the people who actually build
[00:40:14] a civilization and what they believe
[00:40:16] they have a system of belief too it's
[00:40:17] the opposite of the system of belief of
[00:40:19] the Scavengers what they believe is that
[00:40:20] there is a logic to the universe and
[00:40:22] that we have an obligation to understand
[00:40:24] that logic what does that mean it means
[00:40:25] there's cause and effect so that also H
[00:40:28] happens to me that success is very often
[00:40:29] within your control because if there's
[00:40:31] cause and effect your own failures very
[00:40:33] often are your own fault and your own
[00:40:35] successes are Reliance on you making
[00:40:37] good decisions which brings us to
[00:40:39] principle number two that they believe
[00:40:40] which is that choice is theirs agency is
[00:40:42] theirs I know an enormous number of
[00:40:45] truly highly successful people and this
[00:40:47] is the one thing they all have in common
[00:40:49] their level of understanding of their
[00:40:51] own agency is Limitless Limitless they
[00:40:54] truly believe that everything is on
[00:40:56] their shoulders
[00:40:57] if something goes wrong they don't look
[00:40:59] at the outside world for reasons why
[00:41:00] they fail they look in the mirror at how
[00:41:02] they can fix that problem this is what
[00:41:04] Lions do and this is how problems get
[00:41:06] solved as opposed to on campuses like
[00:41:08] this one where people look at ills in
[00:41:10] the world and immediately attribute it
[00:41:11] to the world instead these people look
[00:41:14] at the ills of the world and they say
[00:41:15] how can I in my personal life change the
[00:41:18] world in such a way that I make the
[00:41:19] world a better place these are the
[00:41:20] people who live some of them very famous
[00:41:23] lives and some of them very very quiet
[00:41:25] lives lives of just building their
[00:41:27] community and then they're buried by
[00:41:29] their family and what goes on their
[00:41:31] gravestone is beloved wife or beloved
[00:41:32] mother or beloved husband or beloved Son
[00:41:35] and those people build community and
[00:41:36] then finally Lions understand that there
[00:41:39] are duties that are outside you that
[00:41:40] ruled you that rule you you are not ow
[00:41:42] to everything you owe everything you
[00:41:46] ought to be grateful for the
[00:41:47] civilization that you were given there's
[00:41:48] a series of Duties those duties were
[00:41:50] handed down to you by your ancestors and
[00:41:52] you owe them to your children those
[00:41:54] duties were created by God and you owe
[00:41:57] them to the people who are around you
[00:42:00] and rights are a part of that you have
[00:42:01] to be able to exercise rights and
[00:42:02] Liberties within those duties but
[00:42:04] specifically so you can fulfill those
[00:42:05] duties this is what lions believe and
[00:42:06] those are the people who build
[00:42:07] civilization and that is the big Clash
[00:42:09] that we've been seeing on campus over
[00:42:10] the course of the last year or so but
[00:42:12] really over the course of the last
[00:42:13] several decades just taking sort of aead
[00:42:15] this year coming to aead this year and
[00:42:17] that I think is the conflict in western
[00:42:19] civilization more broadly right now are
[00:42:21] we going to be a civilization of lions
[00:42:24] or are we simply going to throw that out
[00:42:25] the window and tear down everything
[00:42:27] thing are we so are we so enjoying our
[00:42:31] lifestyle of bitching and moaning amid
[00:42:34] the greatest wealth in human history
[00:42:36] that we are willing to tear down the
[00:42:37] system that built all of that wealth
[00:42:39] Prosperity health or are we actually
[00:42:42] going to contribute because that's the
[00:42:44] choice especially in front of young
[00:42:45] people are you going to be a useful
[00:42:47] person or are you going to be a worse
[00:42:49] than useless person are you going to be
[00:42:51] a person who makes the most of the
[00:42:52] skills that God gave you and that you
[00:42:54] have a duty to develop or are you going
[00:42:56] to be a person who decides that it's
[00:42:58] your job in the name of social justice
[00:43:00] to tear down all the systems of Merit
[00:43:02] that actually make the world a better
[00:43:03] place for yourself and for everybody
[00:43:05] else civilization is at a Crossroads and
[00:43:08] we're going to have to choose one or
[00:43:09] we're going to have to choose the other
[00:43:11] so I hope that tonight for for those who
[00:43:14] disagree with some of what I say at
[00:43:16] least we should be able to agree on one
[00:43:18] thing that individual initiative hard
[00:43:21] work good solid choices decent virtues
[00:43:25] membership in a community that that
[00:43:27] matters these are the things that are
[00:43:28] going to build up this country and make
[00:43:30] our civilization a better place not the
[00:43:32] endless acidic cynicism that you see
[00:43:34] from the radical left on places like
[00:43:36] this campus thank you so much happy to
[00:43:38] take your
[00:43:39] [Applause]
[00:43:52] questions uh excuse me so we're going to
[00:43:54] be having the Q&A section for the
[00:43:56] lecture today if you have any questions
[00:43:59] please come to the back of the event
[00:44:00] from here everyone line up do not come
[00:44:02] from the front
[00:44:05] please uh please line up at the line
[00:44:07] over there where my colleague is having
[00:44:09] his hand
[00:44:11] please thank
[00:44:17] you okay
[00:44:24] come as always by the way I do have one
[00:44:26] rule
[00:44:27] this is for every lecture if you
[00:44:28] disagree with me on any topic whatever
[00:44:30] you want to do then raise your hand you
[00:44:31] go to the front of the line that's how
[00:44:32] that
[00:44:36] works hi Ben um my name is Colin I'm a
[00:44:39] center left um typically and I joined
[00:44:41] yaf recently because I've gotten really
[00:44:43] sick of the divisiveness in politics and
[00:44:46] frankly what I'd like to know from you
[00:44:49] is as a commentator on some of the most
[00:44:51] contentious issues today and what can we
[00:44:53] do as students to bridge this divide
[00:44:57] what do you think the answer is so first
[00:44:58] of all thank you so much for coming
[00:45:01] seriously I
[00:45:03] mean I think that the first way to
[00:45:05] bridge The Divide is actually to have
[00:45:06] conversations like the one that we're
[00:45:07] having so I appreciate the fact that
[00:45:08] you're Center left and you joined a
[00:45:10] group that tends toward the right in
[00:45:11] order to facilitate those conversations
[00:45:13] uh I think that on campus there are a
[00:45:15] few different types of folks uh there
[00:45:16] are the folks who are militant leftists
[00:45:18] I think that having conversations with
[00:45:19] many of those people tends to be worse
[00:45:21] than useless uh they they've sort of
[00:45:23] decided what they've decided and you're
[00:45:24] wasting your time and wasting your
[00:45:25] breath you have to decide that based on
[00:45:26] each individual conversation then there
[00:45:28] are a bunch of people in the middle who
[00:45:29] just want to have an open conversation
[00:45:30] and those are the people that I would
[00:45:32] focus on when I was on campus you know I
[00:45:34] those are the people I'd like to talk to
[00:45:36] because their views have not yet been
[00:45:37] set and you can have some really good
[00:45:39] interesting back and forth about all of
[00:45:41] this in terms of you know generating
[00:45:43] change on the campus more generally
[00:45:45] obviously there are sort of strategic
[00:45:46] things you can do by going after donors
[00:45:48] and telling them to pull their money if
[00:45:49] they're going to engage and go ahads for
[00:45:51] tentas and such but I think the other
[00:45:53] thing that that really can be done is
[00:45:55] establishing the ground rules
[00:45:57] on campus I think the ground rules have
[00:45:58] fallen apart and some of those ground
[00:46:00] rules include things like freedom of
[00:46:02] speech rather than silencing of disent
[00:46:04] or you don't get to push people around
[00:46:06] on the quad would be a good a good way
[00:46:07] to to characterize that rule and I think
[00:46:09] there ought to be 70 80% Unity on
[00:46:12] questions like that and if you can't get
[00:46:13] the other 20% well you know tough that's
[00:46:15] kind of life thank you Ben appreciate
[00:46:22] it good evening Ben my name is Alex very
[00:46:25] nice to meet you sir so I'm a Roman
[00:46:27] Catholic and I know that you've had many
[00:46:29] conversations with Catholics such as
[00:46:31] Bishop Robert Baron and Matt frad and so
[00:46:33] my question is how have those
[00:46:34] conversations impacted your
[00:46:36] understanding of who Jesus Christ is and
[00:46:38] the church that he started okay so I
[00:46:41] mean the hat means I'm a Jew right so
[00:46:45] the so I always preface any conversation
[00:46:48] by saying that if you're a Catholic you
[00:46:49] should absolutely go to church more
[00:46:51] often yes and also by the way if you're
[00:46:52] a Protestant you should go to church
[00:46:53] more often what what the what the
[00:46:54] country needs is more people going to
[00:46:56] church and going to synagogue it's what
[00:46:57] the country desperately
[00:47:02] needs as far as my own person personal
[00:47:04] understanding if we're talking about the
[00:47:05] Divinity of Jesus my opinion on that
[00:47:07] hasn't changed because again that is
[00:47:08] sort of one of the foundational tenants
[00:47:09] of Judaism is that God has never taken
[00:47:11] human form but if the if the question is
[00:47:14] you know what have I learned about
[00:47:15] Catholicism from many of the people that
[00:47:16] I'm talking to I mean I I think that one
[00:47:18] of the things that Robert Baron Bishop
[00:47:19] Baron does really really well is he
[00:47:21] points out the continuity between an
[00:47:22] enormous number of ideas in the Old
[00:47:23] Testament and the stuff that Jesus is
[00:47:25] saying in the New Testament which is
[00:47:27] obviously quite true much of the stuff
[00:47:28] that Jesus is saying in the New
[00:47:29] Testament is almost quoted word for word
[00:47:32] either from the Old Testament or from
[00:47:34] places like the book of Jeremiah and so
[00:47:36] you know that the continuity there is
[00:47:37] why when I say judeo-christian that's
[00:47:39] not meant as some sort of denigration or
[00:47:41] watering down of Christianity that's
[00:47:42] meant to point to the continuity of
[00:47:44] Christian ideas with Judaism sure thank
[00:47:47] you I really appreciate your response
[00:47:48] and please know that I'm praying for you
[00:47:50] God bless you sir I appreciate that
[00:47:51] thank
[00:47:55] you good even good evening Ben it's a
[00:47:57] pleasure to to meet you in person I know
[00:47:59] you're not fun of the far right and you
[00:48:01] mentioned in the past that you were a
[00:48:02] target of the for right in 2016 the
[00:48:05] latest polls show that Trump is polling
[00:48:07] better among black voters than any
[00:48:08] previous Republican candidate however
[00:48:11] some black voters have spoken to are
[00:48:12] still hesitant to support him partly
[00:48:14] because far groups such as white
[00:48:15] nationalists like Nick Fuentes seem to
[00:48:17] Rally behind Trump why do you think
[00:48:19] these groups though small in number are
[00:48:20] more drawn to Trump than any past
[00:48:22] candidate so I mean I will point out
[00:48:23] that at this point my understanding is
[00:48:24] Nick fentz is unendorsed Donald Trump he
[00:48:27] actually unendorsed Donald Trump and he
[00:48:28] suggested to his followers that they
[00:48:29] campaign against Donald Trump so that
[00:48:31] that is worth pointing out and the
[00:48:32] reason is because Donald Trump happens
[00:48:34] to be too
[00:48:35] philosemitic he's explicitly said this
[00:48:37] so you know I think that there there's a
[00:48:39] reactionary strain that does exist on
[00:48:41] the right and in reaction to what they
[00:48:44] see as the sort of racialism of the left
[00:48:47] they developed a racialism of their own
[00:48:48] it's an ugly response so because the
[00:48:51] left has tended over the course of the
[00:48:53] last 20 years to see people in terms of
[00:48:55] race the white nationalists will well
[00:48:57] you get to see yourself as a proud black
[00:48:58] person I get to see myself as a proud
[00:49:00] white person and I'm going to see myself
[00:49:01] as a proud white person in opposition to
[00:49:04] you as as a black person I'm going to
[00:49:05] start thinking in explicitly racial
[00:49:07] terms which I think is really quite ugly
[00:49:09] uh and and I think that again because
[00:49:10] that is a response to the racialism of
[00:49:12] the left some of that has ended up on
[00:49:13] the right that's not an excuse for it
[00:49:15] that's an explanation for it it's really
[00:49:16] ugly it has been largely marginalized on
[00:49:19] the right I hope it continues to be
[00:49:20] marginalized on the right I've been
[00:49:21] fighting that battle myself for for
[00:49:23] quite a while I think it's hideous I
[00:49:24] think it's ugly I think the Viewpoint is
[00:49:26] disgusting I think it's morally
[00:49:27] reprehensible and logically idiotic
[00:49:29] thank you Ben have a good
[00:49:36] day
[00:49:37] oh sorry uh hi Ben thank you for showing
[00:49:41] up uh throughout your speech you talk
[00:49:43] about how you feel that Western
[00:49:45] Civilization is being threatened by all
[00:49:47] these forces that you mentioned in my
[00:49:50] view the greatest threat towards Western
[00:49:51] civilation isn't what what random
[00:49:53] professors are teaching kids but climate
[00:49:55] change you know as you see that we have
[00:49:57] all these hurricanes I'm from Texas and
[00:50:00] I can tell you for sure in the last
[00:50:02] couple years in the Summers it's been
[00:50:03] significantly hotter since when I was a
[00:50:06] small child like I don't even go outside
[00:50:08] between May and September anymore and so
[00:50:13] why is fighting climate change
[00:50:15] inconsistent with conservatism why can't
[00:50:16] we not have conservatism with carbon
[00:50:18] taxes and pushing solar and wind and
[00:50:21] nuclear like why why do we need oil and
[00:50:24] gas to be a conservative okay so I I
[00:50:26] think that there are really two
[00:50:28] questions when it comes to climate
[00:50:29] change one is the question of climate
[00:50:30] change itself and then one is the
[00:50:31] solutions that are proposed for climate
[00:50:33] change when it comes to climate change
[00:50:34] itself there are some open questions as
[00:50:37] to exactly the extent to which
[00:50:38] anthropogenic climate change is the
[00:50:41] cause of climate change so when I say
[00:50:43] that I don't I I personally believe that
[00:50:45] the climate is changing uh that doesn't
[00:50:47] mean that every weather event is
[00:50:48] attributable to climate change because
[00:50:50] actually uh there were fewer hurricanes
[00:50:52] up until like the last month in the Gulf
[00:50:54] this year than there had been years past
[00:50:55] it was really baffling a lot of Cl
[00:50:56] climatologist and you can't mix up it's
[00:50:58] always funny whenever you talk about
[00:50:59] climate change if if there's a real cold
[00:51:01] snap somebody on the right will go see
[00:51:02] climate change isn't happening and then
[00:51:03] everybody on the left will go hey
[00:51:05] weather is not climate and then there
[00:51:06] will be a hurricane and everybody on the
[00:51:08] left will go hey the climate's changing
[00:51:10] and it be like well hold up a second is
[00:51:12] weather climate or is a not climate
[00:51:13] you're going to have to pick one if the
[00:51:14] idea is the average temperature on
[00:51:16] planet Earth as measured by available
[00:51:18] statistics from say the ipcc has been
[00:51:20] marginally increasing over the course of
[00:51:21] years and will likely continue to do so
[00:51:23] for the foreseeable future then we get
[00:51:25] to question number two okay so I think
[00:51:27] that the first one which leaves open a
[00:51:28] bunch of questions does ask what happens
[00:51:32] next it's the what happens next where
[00:51:33] things start to get a little bit crazy
[00:51:35] okay because what the left has suggested
[00:51:36] very often is taking measures that
[00:51:38] completely quash the American economy in
[00:51:40] the name of a change that will be
[00:51:42] incremental at best if the United States
[00:51:44] for example were to hold by the
[00:51:46] commitments of the Kyoto protocols then
[00:51:48] the United States would be responsible
[00:51:49] for destroying a centrally its own
[00:51:51] economy and would marginally change over
[00:51:53] the course of The Next Century climate
[00:51:54] change because it turns out that the
[00:51:55] climate is global and so China is still
[00:51:57] polluting a lot a lot it turns out that
[00:51:59] American emissions have actually been
[00:52:00] headed in the right direction for the
[00:52:02] past decade or so while Chinese
[00:52:03] emissions have been headed in the wrong
[00:52:04] direction because when countries
[00:52:05] economically developed carbon-based
[00:52:07] fossil fuels are really really efficient
[00:52:09] so the answers on a conservative side to
[00:52:11] climate change if this is something that
[00:52:13] that is deeply concerning I really
[00:52:15] twofold one there's a great litus test
[00:52:17] as to whether somebody is serious about
[00:52:18] climate change you mentioned it so you
[00:52:19] get included in the good group that's
[00:52:21] nuclear if somebody on the left refuses
[00:52:23] to consider nuclear as a solution to
[00:52:24] climate change they're not serious
[00:52:25] they're just lying in and they want to
[00:52:26] restructure the global economy so if you
[00:52:28] said nuclear is is a great thing new
[00:52:30] nuclear facilities should be built as an
[00:52:33] alternative to many of the dirtier
[00:52:34] fossil fuels that are being used to
[00:52:36] power the electric grid for example then
[00:52:38] you get to the question of what else can
[00:52:40] be done carbon taxes tend not to be
[00:52:42] particularly effective on a global scale
[00:52:44] all you end up doing is penalizing your
[00:52:45] own consumers in the United States and
[00:52:47] really harming the economy taking away
[00:52:48] jobs in favor of places like India or
[00:52:50] China they're still developing and if
[00:52:51] you're a developing country do you think
[00:52:52] that people in developing Africa care
[00:52:54] deeply about climate change or are they
[00:52:55] just trying not to burn D for fuel well
[00:52:57] well you just have like an adjusted
[00:52:58] border tax so if China is using coal you
[00:53:01] just tax the Imports that use coal
[00:53:04] that's what like the European Union is
[00:53:05] doing and and it's been wildly
[00:53:07] ineffective and getting China to
[00:53:08] actually lower its coal usage for
[00:53:09] example so it has not been an effective
[00:53:11] approach the truth is human beings are
[00:53:13] really really bad at mitigation and
[00:53:15] really really good at adaptation and so
[00:53:18] you know I think there will be you know
[00:53:19] new innovations that actually are
[00:53:21] significantly more effective than what's
[00:53:22] come along right now hopefully there
[00:53:23] will be better innovation in places like
[00:53:25] solar and wind to bring the price per
[00:53:27] per kilowatt down so that it's more
[00:53:29] competitive right now the solutions that
[00:53:31] are being proposed are so blunderbus and
[00:53:33] large in their effect that they outweigh
[00:53:36] the actual impact of climate change
[00:53:37] financially speaking it's not me saying
[00:53:39] that William nordhouse has made that
[00:53:40] claim when the Nobel prize in economics
[00:53:41] a few years back from making quite
[00:53:43] similar claims it's a book called
[00:53:44] climate Casino worth checking out all
[00:53:46] right thank you so
[00:53:47] [Applause]
[00:53:52] much hi Ben it's nice to see you um I'm
[00:53:56] I'm a firsttime voter and speaking as a
[00:53:58] conservative in deeply blue California I
[00:54:01] was more interested in seeing what you
[00:54:04] what you had to say about the Electoral
[00:54:06] College because I find it difficult a
[00:54:08] even as a conservative to argue for a
[00:54:11] system that basically invalidates
[00:54:14] millions of California Republicans or
[00:54:17] Texas Democrats or New York Republicans
[00:54:20] so I just wanted to hear if you favored
[00:54:22] the national popular vote system
[00:54:24] something like that and get your
[00:54:26] thoughts so I don't favor a national
[00:54:27] popular vote system because it's never
[00:54:28] going to be implemented and I don't know
[00:54:30] why people are wasting their breath and
[00:54:31] time on it I mean I mean that's that's
[00:54:33] the real answer I mean there are a lot
[00:54:34] of things that you could do Den noo
[00:54:36] right if you were going to start over at
[00:54:37] the United States would you have a
[00:54:38] national popular vote system or would
[00:54:40] you have an electoral college and the
[00:54:42] answer is well when the United States
[00:54:44] began it was a compendium of states and
[00:54:45] those States had to get together and
[00:54:46] create a system and so states with a
[00:54:48] more sparse population were simply not
[00:54:50] willing to hand over a the power of a
[00:54:52] national popular vote to big cities like
[00:54:54] Boston at the time or New York City at
[00:54:55] the time and so you know all these sort
[00:54:57] of attempts to retcon the Electoral
[00:54:59] College I mean there have been states by
[00:55:01] the way that actually have debuted up
[00:55:02] their Electoral College vote by popular
[00:55:04] vote I mean all states can do that if
[00:55:06] California wants to do that I'd be more
[00:55:07] than more than happy if they would that
[00:55:08] would be great I would love it if
[00:55:10] California didn't take 50 odd electoral
[00:55:12] votes every election cycle that'd be
[00:55:13] awesome but and and there are in fact a
[00:55:15] number of states that have sort of bound
[00:55:17] together uh and and have committed that
[00:55:19] if if a majority of states in terms of
[00:55:21] the Electoral College sign on they
[00:55:23] they've signed on to a pledge that if
[00:55:25] the popular vote goes one way they'll
[00:55:26] vote in favor of that popular vote so
[00:55:28] theoretically that could pass without
[00:55:30] some sort of Constitutional Amendment
[00:55:31] but as far as sort of the principle the
[00:55:33] argument for the Electoral College you
[00:55:34] know the idea that it acts is sort of a
[00:55:36] a bull workk or manufactures a greater
[00:55:38] level of consent in a very split
[00:55:39] population yeah I hear the arguments on
[00:55:42] both sides I don't find you know the
[00:55:44] argument against the national popular
[00:55:45] but wildly unconvincing per se I just
[00:55:48] think it's a complete useless waste of
[00:55:49] time because how you going to do it like
[00:55:51] explain it's like saying let's get rid
[00:55:53] of the United States Senate okay talk to
[00:55:54] Wyoming and see how that goes for you
[00:55:55] all right thank thank you so
[00:55:58] [Applause]
[00:56:04] much Hi man my name is Tammy uh I'm a
[00:56:08] liberal well thanks for coming pronounce
[00:56:10] she her I know that might give you
[00:56:12] trouble uh it do and I can speak English
[00:56:16] thank you
[00:56:18] so I appreciated what you said about the
[00:56:22] Coalition of losers who hate the Western
[00:56:25] values I'd like to add Donald Trump and
[00:56:27] his supporters to that club
[00:56:30] so guys go easy on him go easy on him
[00:56:34] he's sensitive I'm curious let's hear it
[00:56:36] okay go for it so Donald Trump's conduct
[00:56:39] was knowingly criminal criminal and
[00:56:40] knowingly criminal not only on January 6
[00:56:43] but in the leadup to January 6th with
[00:56:44] the false Lector scheme you on a
[00:56:47] previous podcast with Lex fredman said
[00:56:49] admitting that he was testing the
[00:56:52] boundaries of our constitutional system
[00:56:54] and the only reason that he didn't get
[00:56:56] away with it because the guard rails
[00:56:58] held now after the Supreme Court
[00:57:01] immunity ruling and the fact that he has
[00:57:02] a new VP who said he would go along with
[00:57:04] such schemes there are no longer such
[00:57:07] guard rails so would you now denounce
[00:57:09] that Donald Trump is a danger to
[00:57:10] democracy and ask him to drop out nope
[00:57:13] so let me explain why
[00:57:15] um
[00:57:18] so so you point out two reasons that
[00:57:21] factors have changed presumably since
[00:57:22] 2021 the factor that you first cited was
[00:57:25] the Supreme Court ruling in which you
[00:57:26] suggest that the president has immunity
[00:57:27] sort of blanket immunity first of all
[00:57:29] it's not what the Supreme Court decision
[00:57:30] says what the Supreme Court decision
[00:57:31] actually does is it establishes three
[00:57:33] categories of executive action one is an
[00:57:35] unprotected category of executive action
[00:57:37] that say the president sides somebody
[00:57:39] with his automobile is he now free of
[00:57:41] manslaughter charges no that's not
[00:57:43] protected executive action he doesn't
[00:57:44] have immunity for that that's not inside
[00:57:45] the Constitutional boundaries then there
[00:57:47] is stuff that is clearly protected
[00:57:49] executive action say Barack Obama
[00:57:50] droning anir Al alaki right he getes an
[00:57:52] order to the military he has the
[00:57:53] capacity to do that in his capacity as
[00:57:55] commander-in-chief that's clearly
[00:57:56] protected and then there's a big gray
[00:57:57] area that's stuff where say the
[00:57:59] president of the United States gives an
[00:58:00] illegal order to somebody in the
[00:58:02] executive branch and then the question
[00:58:04] is not does he get automatic immunity he
[00:58:05] does not get automatic immunity then you
[00:58:07] are able to show that he actually that
[00:58:10] that it would be a threat that he' have
[00:58:11] to show that would be a threat to the
[00:58:12] Constitutional order not to stop him so
[00:58:14] precisely the reverse would have been
[00:58:16] true for Donald Trump in 2021 if he had
[00:58:18] gotten away with it that would have been
[00:58:19] a threat to the Constitutional order in
[00:58:21] my view so that would not have withstood
[00:58:23] claims of executive immunity which is
[00:58:25] why this was commanded back to the DC
[00:58:27] the DC court of appeals where judge
[00:58:29] chuin is then going to make a decision
[00:58:31] as to which of those claims still hold
[00:58:32] from Jack Smith that's the actual legal
[00:58:34] case Okay putting on my lawyer hat
[00:58:35] that's the actual legal case then you
[00:58:37] make a second contention with regard to
[00:58:40] president Trump which is what it was it
[00:58:42] was the it was the Supreme Court case
[00:58:43] and then remind me what your second
[00:58:44] contention was the second one was now
[00:58:46] he's going to surround himself with with
[00:58:47] the VP yes so the Electoral account
[00:58:48] Reform Act did pass early on in the
[00:58:50] Biden Administration that wildly
[00:58:52] restricts the ability of the vice
[00:58:53] president to do anything has a
[00:58:55] constitutional Duty now to certify the
[00:58:57] state vote and the state legislature
[00:58:58] certifies that vote so Congress can't
[00:59:00] actually hold that up so the guard rails
[00:59:01] were actually made stronger in the wake
[00:59:03] of 2021 see the thing is about President
[00:59:05] Trump in 2021 and and January 6 I didn't
[00:59:08] like any of that right I'm one of the
[00:59:09] few conservative commentators who said I
[00:59:11] really didn't like any of what he was
[00:59:12] saying between November 6th and January
[00:59:14] 6th I didn't I thought that I thought
[00:59:15] that it was wrong I thought that that he
[00:59:17] was making specious legal claims and all
[00:59:19] of the rest okay with that said here's
[00:59:22] the beauty of our Constitution and and
[00:59:23] its guardrails it was set up for people
[00:59:26] who tried to do the kinds of things that
[00:59:27] Donald Trump do what it was not set up
[00:59:29] for was people gutting the institutions
[00:59:31] and then wearing them around as skin
[00:59:32] suits so for example the bid
[00:59:34] Administration trying to use OSHA the
[00:59:36] occupational safety and health
[00:59:37] administration or to cram down vaccine
[00:59:38] mandates on 80 million Americans or for
[00:59:42] example or for example the Biden
[00:59:44] Administration actually mobilizing the
[00:59:46] Department of Justice against political
[00:59:47] opposition it's always funny to me to
[00:59:49] hear people on the left suggest that
[00:59:50] Donald Trump is going to do that when he
[00:59:52] actually did not do that while he was
[00:59:53] president but Joe Biden actually has his
[00:59:56] attempt to do that he tried to get the
[00:59:57] doj to file charges against Hillary
[00:59:59] Clinton that that that is untrue if he
[01:00:02] he actually said he was going to do that
[01:00:03] in 2020 in 2016 and then he never did
[01:00:05] that that is not true he was unable to
[01:00:07] do that is not the same no he didn't
[01:00:08] actually even try to do that Jeff
[01:00:09] sessions Jeff sessions turned him down
[01:00:10] on many things he didn't even make an
[01:00:11] effort to investigate Hillary Clinton
[01:00:13] under the doj it's critique actually
[01:00:14] many Republicans have of Donald Trump
[01:00:16] who wish that Hillary Clinton had been
[01:00:17] prosecuted may I turn back to something
[01:00:20] you said about the core powers of the
[01:00:21] executive power related to immunity so
[01:00:24] you yourself said that using drones
[01:00:26] using the military is a core part of the
[01:00:28] executive branch and therefore is
[01:00:29] covered by immunity depends on the
[01:00:30] function of the military so if you were
[01:00:32] to use the if I were to order Seal Team
[01:00:33] 6 to say kill my political opponent that
[01:00:35] would not be protected and the way you
[01:00:36] know that's not protected by the way is
[01:00:38] because Joe Biden has not used SEAL Team
[01:00:39] Six to kill Donald Trump if that's the
[01:00:41] case then why didn't chief justice
[01:00:42] Roberts addressed that when that
[01:00:44] specific point was brought up in the
[01:00:45] immunity case because he because Justice
[01:00:47] Roberts has a has a philosophy of
[01:00:49] judicial restraint that means that he
[01:00:50] likes to kick stuff back to the lower
[01:00:52] courts until it matures that's part of
[01:00:53] his Judicial philosophy I disagree with
[01:00:55] it by the way I think
[01:00:56] ambiguous I mean Justice Roberts is
[01:00:58] quite famous for leaving things
[01:00:59] ambiguous and then kicking them back to
[01:01:00] the lower courts where they the legal
[01:01:02] term is ripen and then come back to the
[01:01:04] Supreme Court thank you I want I want to
[01:01:05] make sure other people have time but
[01:01:06] thank you thank you for your
[01:01:07] [Music]
[01:01:14] time would it be okay if I hold the mic
[01:01:17] yeah
[01:01:18] no
[01:01:20] noise greetings Mr Shapiro uh I am born
[01:01:23] and raised here in Los Angeles
[01:01:24] California a current student here here
[01:01:26] at UCLA I'm a junior and I wanted to ask
[01:01:28] you a question regarding your stance on
[01:01:30] something a little more relating IR
[01:01:32] international
[01:01:34] relations given that Israel is fighting
[01:01:37] a war to preserve its self-determination
[01:01:39] while faced with an existential crisis I
[01:01:42] can't help but ignore the fact that we
[01:01:45] seek dictatorships military dictatorship
[01:01:47] like aleran waging a war of aggression
[01:01:50] against a peaceful democracy like
[01:01:52] Armenia forcing 120,000 Christian
[01:01:55] Armenian to flee the region of nagoro
[01:01:57] kabak formerly known as arak how do you
[01:02:00] feel about Israel being a democratic
[01:02:02] country itself supporting military
[01:02:04] dictatorship that is pushing people out
[01:02:06] of their homes so I'm not fond of
[01:02:08] Israel's position with regard to aeran
[01:02:10] and and Armenia actually with regard to
[01:02:11] neoral kabak it's a little bit
[01:02:13] complicated only in the sense that
[01:02:14] azerbajan has been more aligned with the
[01:02:18] west and Armenia has been in terms of
[01:02:20] international relations kind of weirdly
[01:02:21] aligned with Iran and so that that's
[01:02:23] complicated a lot of the factors on the
[01:02:25] ground but obviously you know the
[01:02:26] situation in Goro kabak is is really
[01:02:28] really horrifying uh and I think
[01:02:30] everyone would prefer you know some some
[01:02:32] form of ceasefire in a permanent
[01:02:33] settlement and borders there as well I I
[01:02:35] frankly I wish Armenia were on the other
[01:02:37] side of Iran and then that would solve a
[01:02:38] lot of the problems I I wish for the
[01:02:40] same exact thing yeah I appreciate it
[01:02:42] thank you for your
[01:02:43] [Applause]
[01:02:50] time we next here um I Ben my name's uh
[01:02:54] na uh quick question do you think
[01:02:57] America should take in more refugees to
[01:03:00] save lives and when I mean refugees I
[01:03:02] mean people who are in some form of
[01:03:05] immediate or semi- immediate danger uh
[01:03:07] so I think that the United States should
[01:03:10] do so if they have no other option and
[01:03:11] if those people are warmed toward
[01:03:12] American values so I think those two
[01:03:14] things are are sort of prerequisites the
[01:03:16] second one actually I think is more of a
[01:03:18] prerequisite I don't think that every
[01:03:19] let's put it this way I don't think
[01:03:20] anyone has a right to come to the United
[01:03:22] States simply because they're suffering
[01:03:23] in their home country that's why one of
[01:03:24] the policies that example the Trump
[01:03:26] Administration was attempting to pursue
[01:03:27] with regard to people in the northern
[01:03:29] triangle was that people would first
[01:03:30] have to attempt to apply for citizenship
[01:03:32] in Way Station countries before they got
[01:03:34] to the United States it's not like
[01:03:35] you're suffering in your home country
[01:03:36] now you get the pick of the litter until
[01:03:38] you come to the United States with that
[01:03:40] said obviously if somebody the United
[01:03:42] States is filled with tons of of groups
[01:03:44] of refugees from countries that were
[01:03:46] dictatorships who love America want
[01:03:48] America to be stronger here you can name
[01:03:50] a bevy of different groups you can talk
[01:03:52] about the Vietnam the Vietnamese boat
[01:03:53] people you can talk about Cuban
[01:03:55] Americans about Venezuelan Americans me
[01:03:57] tons and tons of refugee groups from
[01:03:59] horrifying circumstances who come here
[01:04:01] and make the country better that doesn't
[01:04:02] mean that the United States doesn't have
[01:04:04] the moral obligation to vet everybody
[01:04:06] who's coming in and determine whether
[01:04:07] it's good for the country for them to
[01:04:08] enter but if we have the capability to
[01:04:10] take in more people why shouldn't we
[01:04:12] because each life is equal and so
[01:04:14] capability is not quite the same thing
[01:04:16] as as the the as the purpose of the the
[01:04:18] United States has the capability of
[01:04:19] probably absorbing the entire population
[01:04:21] of South America just in terms of our
[01:04:23] our actual economic output but but that
[01:04:26] doesn't mean that we have a moral right
[01:04:29] to do that to the citizenry of the
[01:04:30] United States any country is a country
[01:04:32] of its citizens the first duty is to the
[01:04:33] citizens of the country and then you can
[01:04:35] talk about what strengthens the country
[01:04:38] and who should be allowed to come in
[01:04:39] again I'm not anti-immigration I'm
[01:04:41] actually quite pro-immigration I just
[01:04:42] think that when an immigrant comes to
[01:04:43] the United States one of the things
[01:04:44] that's happened that's quite unfortunate
[01:04:46] over the course of American History is
[01:04:47] that the the actual math with regard to
[01:04:50] why people immigrate to the United
[01:04:51] States has changed so my
[01:04:52] great-grandparents on both sides came to
[01:04:54] the United States in the early 20th
[01:04:55] centur there are no welfare programs for
[01:04:57] example what did that mean that meant
[01:04:58] they left a place that was actually more
[01:04:59] secure and came to a place that was
[01:05:00] economically less secure for the
[01:05:01] opportunity that meant automatically
[01:05:03] they weren't for example going to be a
[01:05:04] net drain on taxpayer resources and it
[01:05:07] also meant that my great-grandparents
[01:05:08] when they got here immediately learned
[01:05:10] English so that they could integrate
[01:05:11] into the economy right when you change
[01:05:13] those incentives by providing all sorts
[01:05:15] of welfare programs and Social Security
[01:05:17] Nets and safety nets for people that
[01:05:19] that's not even a rip on the people
[01:05:20] that's just a change in the incentive
[01:05:21] structure and so it broadens the the
[01:05:23] pool of applicants to enter you have to
[01:05:26] be more discriminating in who enters
[01:05:27] right final thing about this question do
[01:05:29] you think America should have taken in
[01:05:31] the people who are refugees of Nazi
[01:05:34] Germany during 1930s and 1940s I think
[01:05:36] those people were so they shouldn't have
[01:05:38] taken in the Frankfurt School um and
[01:05:40] they should have taken in uh a huge
[01:05:41] number of Jews who were then turned away
[01:05:44] and murdered uh in the European death
[01:05:46] camps because those people were
[01:05:47] explicitly fleeing Nazi Germany because
[01:05:49] they didn't like the system of Nazi
[01:05:50] Germany and I think they would have made
[01:05:52] excellent Americans okay cool thank you
[01:05:54] so much
[01:06:00] good evening Ben so when I was in the
[01:06:03] back of the line there someone came up
[01:06:04] to me and said do you disagree I said
[01:06:06] yes so I got moved to the front of the
[01:06:07] line okay which is awesome and also all
[01:06:11] the people who were in front of me who
[01:06:13] mentioned that they disagreed with you
[01:06:14] your reaction was thank you so much for
[01:06:15] coming we're here to bridge the gap so
[01:06:18] yay we're Bridging the Gap that's
[01:06:19] awesome but throughout your speech
[01:06:22] you've referred to the Coalition of
[01:06:24] losers and you sell leftist tears mugs
[01:06:26] and I'm pretty sure below that it
[01:06:27] doesn't say asterisk leftist that I love
[01:06:30] to have conversations with that seems
[01:06:32] like a contradiction to me tell me why
[01:06:33] I'm wrong okay the reason you're wrong
[01:06:34] is because I explicitly so this is a
[01:06:35] conversation inside the daily wirus what
[01:06:37] would be on the left is tears mug okay
[01:06:39] the original proposal was liberal tears
[01:06:41] mug and I said it will not be liberal
[01:06:43] tear mug because I know many
[01:06:44] good-hearted liberals who disagree with
[01:06:45] me on tax policy it'll be leftist tiar
[01:06:47] mug and the distinction that I make
[01:06:48] between a leftist and a liberal is that
[01:06:49] leftists are people who believe in all
[01:06:51] the principles that I've espoused with
[01:06:53] regard to what I would call losers and o
[01:06:55] tend to believe in the shutting down of
[01:06:57] open and public debate along those lines
[01:06:59] through top down opes so I do I do make
[01:07:02] a distinction between liberals and
[01:07:03] leftist that's specifically why I don't
[01:07:05] use you'll notice in all of my speeches
[01:07:06] I never use the word liberal I never do
[01:07:08] it when I'm labeling when I'm labeling a
[01:07:09] particular Viewpoint I never label it
[01:07:11] liberal because again I have many people
[01:07:12] who I am friends with who who are
[01:07:14] liberals I I'm very friendly with Bill
[01:07:16] Maher for example Bill Mah and I
[01:07:18] disagree on a wide variety of topics
[01:07:19] bill is a liberal he's certainly not a
[01:07:20] leftist he's very much in favor of free
[01:07:22] speech open conversation and he believes
[01:07:24] in basic American values like for
[01:07:25] example property rights and freedom of
[01:07:27] speech and freedom of worship right
[01:07:29] that's something that that a Cadre of
[01:07:31] the left really does not believe and so
[01:07:33] I try to make that distinction pretty
[01:07:34] handily my guess is if you're here and
[01:07:36] you're having the conversation I'd label
[01:07:37] you a liberal not a leftist so no
[01:07:39] Bridging the Gap with leftists they they
[01:07:40] don't get to brige a gap zero no nope
[01:07:42] none
[01:07:47] nope thank you thanks
[01:07:56] hey Ben so my question is about the
[01:07:58] Israel Palestine conflict I was watching
[01:08:00] a Norman frankstein video some time ago
[01:08:02] about a year ago where um I'm still
[01:08:04] waiting for you to debate him by the way
[01:08:06] if that ever happens but you previously
[01:08:07] said before that the cartoon resolution
[01:08:10] or the three knows no peace no
[01:08:11] negotiation no resolution was issued
[01:08:14] before the Six Days War implying that
[01:08:16] the Arabs provoked the war with that
[01:08:18] Doctrine and Etc um whereas it's widely
[01:08:21] accepted that the doctrine was issued um
[01:08:23] in September months after that Six Days
[01:08:25] War no actually I didn't say about the
[01:08:26] Kum resolution where I says the PLO was
[01:08:28] formed before The Six Day War it was
[01:08:29] formed in 1964 and the Palestine
[01:08:31] Liberation Organization was founded to
[01:08:33] liberate Palestine as the name might
[01:08:34] imply you might also know that before
[01:08:36] The Six Day War Palestine would have
[01:08:38] just been what would be inside green
[01:08:40] line Israel the Palestine Liberation
[01:08:41] Organization then became the Palestinian
[01:08:42] Authority so I I've actually not
[01:08:45] referenced the carum resolution on with
[01:08:47] regard to that timeline but the
[01:08:49] foundation of the Palestine Liberation
[01:08:50] Organization when the West Bank was in
[01:08:51] the control of Jordan and the Gaza Strip
[01:08:53] was in the control of Egypt is excellent
[01:08:54] excellent evidence evence that the
[01:08:56] actual Palestine seeking to be liberated
[01:08:58] was not in fact Jerusalem which the time
[01:09:00] was occupied by the jordanians or the
[01:09:02] Gaza Strip which at the time was
[01:09:03] occupied by the Egyptians it was in fact
[01:09:05] Tel Aviv and
[01:09:07] Kaa thank
[01:09:08] [Applause]
[01:09:15] you thank you Ben um I'm a Christian I
[01:09:18] go to B University in lamara
[01:09:21] California um I want to ask you as an
[01:09:25] American Jew how can you continue to
[01:09:27] condone the actions of the Israeli
[01:09:30] government condoned by the US government
[01:09:33] in the Gaza Strip where over 40,000
[01:09:36] people have died including Palestinians
[01:09:39] and Israelis and large numbers of
[01:09:41] children and civilians how can you
[01:09:44] continue to condone those actions okay
[01:09:46] so okay hold on I want to I want to
[01:09:48] correct you I don't just condone the
[01:09:50] actions of the Israeli Defense Force and
[01:09:51] the Israeli government I celebrate and
[01:09:53] Loud them
[01:10:01] I'm not morally apathetic about what's
[01:10:05] happening on October 7th Hamas launched
[01:10:08] the most deadly war on Jews since the
[01:10:10] Holocaust they killed 1200 innocent
[01:10:12] people they took 250 hostages a 100 of
[01:10:14] them are still being held hostage I know
[01:10:15] members of families of hostages who are
[01:10:17] still being held American citizens Hamas
[01:10:19] could end this war today by surrendering
[01:10:21] they' have chosen not to surrender
[01:10:22] instead they spend billions of dollars
[01:10:23] building Terror tunnels below civilian
[01:10:25] areas it is not incumbent on the Israeli
[01:10:27] government to surrender just because
[01:10:30] terrorists are evil enough to hide
[01:10:32] behind civilians the Israeli government
[01:10:33] has gone through such extraordinary
[01:10:35] efforts not to kill civilians that it
[01:10:37] has managed the best civilian to
[01:10:39] terrorist kill ratio in the history of
[01:10:41] urban Warfare and it is not
[01:10:45] close I personally know soldiers who
[01:10:47] have gone door too in the Gaza Strip who
[01:10:50] have risked their own lives to prevent
[01:10:51] civilian death Israel has complete and
[01:10:53] utter air superiority over the Gaza
[01:10:54] Strip turns out that Hamas doesn't have
[01:10:56] an Air Force they just had a Ser series
[01:10:58] of tunnels where they hit all their
[01:10:59] leadership while their people suffered
[01:11:01] after their people voted for them and
[01:11:02] then they effectively established a
[01:11:03] dictatorship over the course of the last
[01:11:05] 20 years Israel with their complete era
[01:11:07] superiority certainly would have had the
[01:11:08] ability to commit fullscale human
[01:11:11] atrocities had they wanted to they have
[01:11:13] complete air superiority they could have
[01:11:14] used f35s and simply turned the place
[01:11:15] into a parking lot they did not in fact
[01:11:17] do that they moved vast scales of
[01:11:19] population in fact believe it or not
[01:11:20] there have been more births in the Gaza
[01:11:22] Strip since the beginning of this war
[01:11:23] than than there have been deaths in the
[01:11:25] Gaz a strip from the war itself that is
[01:11:27] a very poor way to conduct a genocide
[01:11:29] Israel is being more meticulous in the
[01:11:32] conduct of this war than any army in
[01:11:34] human history and certainly than the
[01:11:35] United States Army in its vast role in
[01:11:38] the history of of urban combat that is
[01:11:41] that is uncontested what would Israel
[01:11:42] what is Israel supposed to do simply say
[01:11:44] that you get to play tag you take
[01:11:45] Israeli citizens you kill 1200 people
[01:11:47] you hide behind a baby you hide behind a
[01:11:49] civilian and now Israel has to
[01:11:51] preemptively surrender that is a great
[01:11:52] way to make sure that terrorists always
[01:11:54] win what Israel has done ought to be
[01:11:56] celebrated by the Western world because
[01:11:57] they've demonstrated that if terrorists
[01:11:59] decide to launch a war they cannot win
[01:12:01] they will be eviscerated from the face
[01:12:02] of the Earth as they ought to
[01:12:04] be do not want ceasefire now I do not
[01:12:07] want a ceasefire until Hamas is
[01:12:08] destroyed and all the hostages are back
[01:12:10] I
[01:12:14] want and you know how that could happen
[01:12:16] it could have happened October 6th there
[01:12:18] was a ceasefire on October 6th and then
[01:12:21] there wasn't a ceasefire starting on
[01:12:22] October 7th and there could have been a
[01:12:24] ceasefire again on October 8th even
[01:12:26] after all of the death if Kamas had
[01:12:27] surrendered its top leadership to
[01:12:29] International Justice if it had released
[01:12:31] all of its hostages and if it had turned
[01:12:32] over its rulership of the Gaza Strip to
[01:12:35] some sort of decent body that wouldn't
[01:12:37] have reinstalled terrorism at the top of
[01:12:39] the food chain I mean what what exactly
[01:12:41] is the excuse for forah getting involved
[01:12:43] in the warbah isn't even in Israel
[01:12:45] hisbah has nothing to do with Israeli
[01:12:46] territory and they've been launching
[01:12:47] 8,000 Rockets between October 7th and
[01:12:50] now now it's more like 12,000 or 13,000
[01:12:52] Rockets hundreds of them every week what
[01:12:55] what is the justification for that there
[01:12:57] is only one way to defeat terrorism and
[01:12:58] that is to win you do not win Wars with
[01:13:00] ceasefires you do not win Wars by
[01:13:09] losing in your speech you mentioned that
[01:13:12] there are scavengers who like to tear
[01:13:13] down and there are lions who like to
[01:13:15] build up are there not some institutions
[01:13:18] we ought to tear down in society
[01:13:20] potentially like the Israeli Defense
[01:13:22] Force
[01:13:26] I think it would be an it would be it
[01:13:28] would be an act of the gravest evil to
[01:13:30] even make that contention simply because
[01:13:31] the Israeli Defense Force stands between
[01:13:34] 7 and A5 million Jews in Israel and
[01:13:37] complete Slaughter and by the way over 2
[01:13:38] million Arabs and complete Slaughter who
[01:13:40] are citizens of the state of Israel the
[01:13:42] only security and peace in the region
[01:13:44] right now is being guaranteed by the
[01:13:45] Israeli military that is the only Force
[01:13:47] standing between that region and
[01:13:49] continued chaos the destruction of the
[01:13:51] IDF is the destruction of Israel that
[01:13:53] means a genocide a true genocide the
[01:13:55] thing that everybody likes to ignore in
[01:13:56] the Middle East while they're claiming
[01:13:57] genocide and while they are claiming AP
[01:13:58] partide is that there's only one area in
[01:14:00] that specific area that is free of one
[01:14:02] ethnicity and religion and it is quote
[01:14:04] unquote Palestine which has zero Jews
[01:14:06] living in it if you drive through the
[01:14:07] West Bank there are giant red signs if
[01:14:09] you drive into the Palestinian Authority
[01:14:11] area saying Jews are not allowed in here
[01:14:13] and if you drive there without the
[01:14:15] permission of the Israeli government as
[01:14:16] a Jew you will be killed if you're a
[01:14:17] Palestinian and you accidentally make
[01:14:19] your way into Israel nothing will happen
[01:14:20] to you you will go back to nablo in the
[01:14:22] evening if you make it through the
[01:14:23] checkpoint accidentally you'll go back
[01:14:25] and if you're a Jew and you accidentally
[01:14:26] drive into rala you will not emerge
[01:14:27] alive that is not if we are talking
[01:14:30] about which force here is a Force for
[01:14:31] good and which force here is a force for
[01:14:33] evil there is no question what the
[01:14:35] distinction is if we're going to talk
[01:14:37] about institutions that ought to be torn
[01:14:38] down we should start with the Legacy
[01:14:39] Media which seems to have radically
[01:14:40] misinformed you
[01:15:02] all right hi Ben my name is matin I'm
[01:15:04] the chap yaf chapter chairman at Golden
[01:15:06] West College California I was born and
[01:15:08] raised in Iran I became a proud us CI
[01:15:10] citizen last year awesome thank
[01:15:12] you and you have a slick vest look at
[01:15:14] that vest thank you so I was going to
[01:15:16] ask you um why didn't Israel just go in
[01:15:19] and wipe out the Hamas terrorists a week
[01:15:22] after the attack and then these
[01:15:25] genderbending cosplay terrorists would
[01:15:27] have forgot forgotten about it by now if
[01:15:29] they did that so the the truth is that
[01:15:32] that Israel has been again
[01:15:33] extraordinarily meticulous in the in the
[01:15:35] prosecution of this particular War
[01:15:37] whether it is the shipping in of
[01:15:39] legitimately hundreds of thousands of
[01:15:40] tons of humanitarian Aid into a region
[01:15:43] where the civilian population largely
[01:15:44] supports Hamas or or whether you're
[01:15:46] talking about how they prosecute this
[01:15:47] war on an individual level uh they've
[01:15:49] been incredibly thorough they're
[01:15:50] continuing to be incredibly thorough I
[01:15:51] think everyone was frustrated the war
[01:15:53] didn't move faster part of that was
[01:15:54] because the United States was forcing
[01:15:55] the Israelis to slow walk it uh the
[01:15:57] Biden Administration has been egregious
[01:15:58] in its prosecution of the war their
[01:16:00] attempt to push Israel for example not
[01:16:02] to go into Rafa is one of the most
[01:16:04] obvious and stupid blunders in the
[01:16:05] history of modern American foreign
[01:16:07] policy this war would have ended very
[01:16:09] quickly if the United States had been
[01:16:10] under the if Donald Trump had been
[01:16:11] president first of all I don't think
[01:16:12] this ever would have happened and number
[01:16:14] two it would have been solved very
[01:16:16] quickly and the reason for that is very
[01:16:18] simple if Donald Trump had been
[01:16:19] president on October 8th Donald Trump
[01:16:21] would have said publicly the Israeli
[01:16:23] military will get all the help they need
[01:16:24] to complete completely eviscerate Hamas
[01:16:26] and establish some form of working order
[01:16:28] in the Gaza Strip ifah crosses that line
[01:16:30] we are going to give Israel everything
[01:16:31] it needs to Pummel hisbah into the
[01:16:33] ground and we're removing our air Braes
[01:16:34] from Qatar until they unless Qatar
[01:16:37] actually facilitates the exit of all the
[01:16:39] hostages currently being held by
[01:16:41] Hamas
[01:16:43] then I have a simple request so when
[01:16:46] you're talking about Iran please make
[01:16:48] sure to separate our people from the
[01:16:51] from the r Islamic Republic I agree
[01:16:54] Destro country the Iranian government is
[01:16:55] evil and the people of Iran are
[01:16:57] incredible they're awesome
[01:17:05] truly hi Ben my husband and I are huge
[01:17:08] fans of you we listen to you every day
[01:17:10] um and I wanted to let you know that you
[01:17:12] actually inspired us to start our own
[01:17:14] podcast about politics in California
[01:17:16] called the California conversation so
[01:17:17] thank you for that my question you're so
[01:17:19] happy about that that seems like a
[01:17:20] really depressing podcast I'm very
[01:17:22] optimistic
[01:17:23] person my question to you is someone
[01:17:26] with over 2,000 podcast episodes what's
[01:17:28] your advice to someone with so far just
[01:17:30] 12 on shaping the culture pushing
[01:17:33] forward conservative values and making
[01:17:35] positive change and then also could I
[01:17:37] give you my card on where to find the
[01:17:39] podcast so that you can stay informed on
[01:17:41] California Politics as well well I
[01:17:42] appreciate that I think I have security
[01:17:44] people around the room so you can
[01:17:45] definitely hand it to one of them um as
[01:17:46] far as you know advice for people who
[01:17:48] want to get involved again sounds like
[01:17:50] you're using your skill set to to the
[01:17:51] best of your ability my my chief piece
[01:17:53] of advice for anybody who's starting a
[01:17:54] business bu is that marketing is 80% of
[01:17:56] your cost so whatever you've dedicated
[01:17:58] to content now take that and multiply it
[01:18:00] by four and then make that your
[01:18:01] marketing budget it's true for any
[01:18:02] business by the way that's not just true
[01:18:03] for podcasting or for a media business
[01:18:05] if you're if you're starting a shoe
[01:18:06] company the vast majority of your budget
[01:18:08] comes in marketing Because unless people
[01:18:09] are aware of your show you're just not
[01:18:10] going to know and there's only so much
[01:18:11] you can do through sort of organic
[01:18:13] marketing and and and Word of Mouth
[01:18:15] that'd be like my top recommend for for
[01:18:17] as far as like structuring a podcast
[01:18:19] what what I find is for for all you
[01:18:20] aspiring hosts out there everybody has
[01:18:22] sort of their fallback thing that they
[01:18:23] like to do which is when your when your
[01:18:25] computer freezes when it glitches what
[01:18:27] do you talk about now where do you go so
[01:18:29] for me I always go to information right
[01:18:31] so I love information I love data it's
[01:18:33] like it's the thing that I inesh myself
[01:18:35] in all the time I read like somewhere
[01:18:37] between four and six books a week and so
[01:18:39] because of that I'm constant like I
[01:18:41] freeze up I I start going to okay let's
[01:18:43] let's do a disquisition on the history
[01:18:45] of a particular topic some people it's
[01:18:46] anger some people like okay I'm gon to
[01:18:47] rant now it's my rant time some people
[01:18:49] it's funny so find that comfortable
[01:18:50] place for you and you're only going to
[01:18:51] get that with reps with doing that a lot
[01:18:52] of times great thank you so much
[01:18:54] [Applause]
[01:19:00] thanks hi Ben given that we're both
[01:19:02] wearing the Jew hat that helps us
[01:19:04] control the
[01:19:06] weather I think it's clear why me or you
[01:19:08] would want to support Israel or why
[01:19:11] someone who's Ukrainian would want to
[01:19:12] support Ukraine but how would you make
[01:19:14] the argument to someone who's purely
[01:19:16] pro-american and an isolationist on why
[01:19:18] we should be giving billions of dollars
[01:19:20] to foreign aid especially that now that
[01:19:22] we're over $1.5 trillion of that in
[01:19:25] America sure so there's there's sort of
[01:19:27] there are a few arguments so argument
[01:19:29] number one is the realistic benefit that
[01:19:30] you get from having allies in the world
[01:19:32] so the fact is that the United States
[01:19:33] military for example has described
[01:19:35] Israel as America's best aircraft
[01:19:37] carrier in the Middle East it's a giant
[01:19:39] aircraft carrier for American vales and
[01:19:41] Intel the United States gets an enormous
[01:19:43] amount of Middle Eastern Intel from the
[01:19:45] Israelis I mean you can see how good mad
[01:19:46] is by the way like how how amazing is
[01:19:48] mad I
[01:19:50] mean I've already told people that for
[01:19:52] porm which is for those of you who don't
[01:19:54] know it's like Jewish Halloween I'm
[01:19:55] planning on my family dressing up as AI
[01:19:57] beeper Emporium for for Halloween um but
[01:20:01] the the amount of the amount of Intel at
[01:20:02] the United States receives while working
[01:20:04] with the Israelis is very high also the
[01:20:05] United States does have a military Tech
[01:20:07] arrangement with Israel where Israel is
[01:20:09] amazing at developing Innovative new
[01:20:10] tech and then the United States does get
[01:20:12] a window into a lot of that newly
[01:20:14] developed Tech and ends up in a lot of
[01:20:16] American Military technology beyond that
[01:20:18] the United States does want a
[01:20:19] counterweight to say Iran in the region
[01:20:21] because Iran threatening its neighbors
[01:20:23] is really bad for a global oil supply
[01:20:25] Iran being nuclear is a threat to Saudi
[01:20:27] Arabia is there actual real politique
[01:20:29] reasons to be interested in these things
[01:20:30] like this is why I'm interested in
[01:20:31] Ukraine it's not particularly because of
[01:20:32] democracy versus dictatorship argument
[01:20:34] it's because I think that Russia takes
[01:20:36] positions adversarial to those of the
[01:20:38] United States throughout the world
[01:20:39] ranging from Asia to Africa to the
[01:20:41] Middle East and I think that anything
[01:20:42] that bleeds Russia is actually quite
[01:20:44] good for the United States and so that
[01:20:47] war Ukraine withstanding Russian
[01:20:49] predation which would then push up
[01:20:50] against NATO's borders completely I
[01:20:52] think is a is a very good thing even
[01:20:53] though I'm pushing for an off ramp to
[01:20:55] the war that would basically solidify
[01:20:56] the borders where they currently are so
[01:20:58] argument number one sort of a real
[01:20:59] politique argument argument number two
[01:21:01] is that it's a lot cheaper it turns out
[01:21:03] to do prevention than it is to do uh
[01:21:05] filling the Gap once the Gap has emerged
[01:21:07] so there's this weird idea in sort of
[01:21:09] isolationist circles that if the United
[01:21:10] States withdraws from an area then that
[01:21:12] area just sort of sits there and nothing
[01:21:14] happen and nothing could be further from
[01:21:15] the truth when the United States
[01:21:16] withdraws from the world generally our
[01:21:18] enemies tend to fill the Gap this is
[01:21:19] particularly true for example when it
[01:21:21] comes to the Freedom of the Seas every
[01:21:22] product that you own has been a benefit
[01:21:24] officiary of the Freedom of the Seas
[01:21:25] guaranteed by the United States Navy and
[01:21:27] its allies and so if the United States
[01:21:29] were to withdraw from say the South
[01:21:31] China Sea because it cost too much money
[01:21:32] or not care about Taiwan the
[01:21:34] consequences for your actual daily life
[01:21:36] would be disastrous if China were to
[01:21:37] Simply take Taiwan and destroy tsmc or
[01:21:40] tsmc would destroy itself basically
[01:21:41] every single electronic device you own
[01:21:43] would be would be kaput you couldn't you
[01:21:45] couldn't get a new iPhone you couldn't
[01:21:46] get anything it would all be gone so it
[01:21:48] turns out again that vacuum foreign
[01:21:51] policy uphor a vacuum and so there is a
[01:21:53] lot to the idea that having powerful
[01:21:54] allies is an excellent deterrent this is
[01:21:57] where I like to tell my favorite Donald
[01:21:58] Trump story so president Trump I did a
[01:22:00] fundraiser for president Trump uh maybe
[01:22:02] three months ago at this point four
[01:22:03] months ago and uh and he he's talking
[01:22:05] about Ukraine and Russia he says Ben Ben
[01:22:08] you know the reason you want know the
[01:22:10] reason why Russia never invaded Ukraine
[01:22:12] while I was the president the reason is
[01:22:15] because I caught up Vlad and I said Vlad
[01:22:17] Vlad Vlad do not attack Ukraine if you
[01:22:19] attack Ukraine I will bomb the out
[01:22:21] of
[01:22:23] you and and Vlad said to me Mr President
[01:22:26] no you won't and I said well I
[01:22:30] might and it turns out well I might is a
[01:22:32] really really good foreign
[01:22:34] policy thank you
[01:22:41] thanks hi Ben hope you're doing well so
[01:22:45] I'm not sure if you're aware of this but
[01:22:47] earlier this morning students Justice
[01:22:49] for Palestine at UCLA and Jewish voices
[01:22:51] for peace set up an suot
[01:22:54] for solidarity which is very interesting
[01:22:57] because they even put it under a tree
[01:22:59] which violates the laws of Kut but
[01:23:02] they're very Jewish they're very very
[01:23:03] Jewish these people very Jewish that's
[01:23:05] my favorite thing about Jewish voices
[01:23:06] for peace the only thing that's true in
[01:23:08] that title is
[01:23:11] of or four as we're here right now they
[01:23:15] just turned thatsa into another
[01:23:19] encampment and are they going to take it
[01:23:21] down like Moog or they're just going to
[01:23:22] leave it up or what really big question
[01:23:24] Jewish Insider joke but that means like
[01:23:26] after the
[01:23:27] holiday so my question for you is what
[01:23:30] your thoughts on this is and what you
[01:23:31] think that UCLA Administration should do
[01:23:33] about they're Schmucks and they should
[01:23:34] expel them if you violate the rules
[01:23:38] see if you if you violate the rules of
[01:23:41] the time Manner and place restrictions
[01:23:44] then you should be expelled this is
[01:23:45] quite simple and we all know that that
[01:23:47] would be the case if these were white
[01:23:48] supremacists who set up their white
[01:23:50] supremacy Hut in the middle of Campus
[01:23:51] they would be thrown out of the
[01:23:53] University immediately they would be
[01:23:55] gone and everyone knows it so when the
[01:23:57] Schmucks decide that they're going to
[01:23:58] set up their dumb fake Suka in the
[01:24:00] middle of Campus where fake Jews can go
[01:24:03] to celebrate fake sukot and they do that
[01:24:05] in violation of time place and manner
[01:24:06] restrictions that would be you know how
[01:24:08] many rules yaf had to abide by in order
[01:24:10] to get this to happen you know what
[01:24:11] insane Loops yaf had to do in order for
[01:24:13] us to sit in a room and for me to talk
[01:24:15] to you all peacefully and nice like it
[01:24:17] was insane it's still insane look how
[01:24:18] many police officers are here schmuck
[01:24:20] set up like a Hut in the middle of
[01:24:21] Campus that's not even K or log and and
[01:24:24] suddenly were're supposed to take them
[01:24:25] seriously like at University of Florida
[01:24:28] when Ben benas was president and he said
[01:24:29] when the encampments went up he said
[01:24:30] listen we have rules if you follow the
[01:24:32] rules you can protest you can say
[01:24:33] whatever you want the minute you don't
[01:24:34] follow those rules you're expelled and
[01:24:35] you know what nobody broke the rules
[01:24:37] anymore this is super simple stuff thank
[01:24:40] you so
[01:24:43] much uh this will be the last question
[01:24:45] of the
[01:24:48] evening sorry hi Ben my name is Jonathan
[01:24:52] I came all the way here from USC where I
[01:24:55] am co-president of the Jewish law
[01:24:57] Students
[01:24:58] Association yeah thank you guys guys
[01:25:00] don't make fun of him he has to actually
[01:25:01] live near USC oh it's terrible this is
[01:25:04] such a better neighborhood um I've also
[01:25:07] worked this summer at the brandise
[01:25:08] center um doing hosle environment cases
[01:25:11] against all these anti-semitic
[01:25:12] universities and so I've heard all these
[01:25:16] horror stories and on behalf of Jewish
[01:25:18] students at USC here and everywhere I
[01:25:21] really want to thank you for fighting
[01:25:23] the good fight and for fighting for us
[01:25:26] thank you so much um now all this said
[01:25:30] so I do have um one question so
[01:25:35] recognizing that the two biggest
[01:25:36] obstacles to peace are Hamas and the
[01:25:39] Palestinian Authority my question is um
[01:25:44] long-term while recognizing probably
[01:25:47] peace won't happen now do you support a
[01:25:50] one-state solution or a two-state
[01:25:52] solution if you support a two State
[01:25:54] solution then what do you do about the
[01:25:57] fact that there are so many Israelis
[01:25:59] living intertwined with Palestinians in
[01:26:02] the West Bank and if you support a
[01:26:04] one-state solution how do you propose
[01:26:06] integrating large numbers of people who
[01:26:09] have no desire to be or to live around
[01:26:12] the Israelis so the realistic solution
[01:26:13] is sort of neither okay the realistic
[01:26:15] solution is actually for Israel to treat
[01:26:17] the the Palestinian areas of the West
[01:26:19] Bank sort of like the United States
[01:26:20] treats Puerto Rico meaning like it has
[01:26:22] home rule but no vote in the
[01:26:23] presidential election right so the the
[01:26:25] reason for that is because there is no
[01:26:28] body that is going to emerge electorally
[01:26:30] from the Palestinian people right now by
[01:26:31] any available poll that is not going to
[01:26:33] be opposed just definitionally to the
[01:26:35] existence of the state of Israel which
[01:26:36] means that you can't have a state in
[01:26:38] control of for example its own borders
[01:26:39] its own military that is juxtaposed with
[01:26:41] Israel so that's an impossibility and I
[01:26:43] don't see that changing anytime soon
[01:26:44] without generations of re-education away
[01:26:48] from that and then the emergence of a
[01:26:49] moderate Palestinian faction that seems
[01:26:51] not to have emerged anytime over the
[01:26:53] course of the last four generations so
[01:26:54] that seems a little utopian to me so
[01:26:56] what that actually means and by the way
[01:26:58] this would be in fact the best situation
[01:26:59] for the Palestinians would be that the
[01:27:02] Israelis provide a an additional
[01:27:04] continued Security in the West Bank they
[01:27:07] continue to maintain an anti-terror
[01:27:09] presence in the West Bank greater
[01:27:11] economic investments in places like
[01:27:13] nablo and Janine in these areas to build
[01:27:15] up the economy of these places and they
[01:27:18] just don't get a vote in the national
[01:27:19] election in Israel and then you want to
[01:27:21] call that home rule call it home rule
[01:27:23] you want to call that a two states call
[01:27:24] that whatever you want but that's the
[01:27:26] actual thing that is going to emerge
[01:27:27] from all this because Israel cannot hand
[01:27:28] over security operations to any sort of
[01:27:30] domestic homegrown force in these areas
[01:27:33] and Israel also is not going to dissolve
[01:27:35] itself on the basis of some sort of
[01:27:37] vague idea that magically the vote
[01:27:39] creates moderation in people which
[01:27:41] clearly it doesn't last time there was
[01:27:42] an election held in the Palestinian
[01:27:44] Authority Mahmud abas was about 40 and
[01:27:46] now he's like 90 and and and we are now
[01:27:49] in the 18th year of the 4-year Hamas
[01:27:52] electoral Reign from 2006 so again there
[01:27:55] are no Solutions there there are only
[01:27:57] there there's only security there are no
[01:27:59] Solutions there's only security I think
[01:28:00] would be the best way to put it and
[01:28:01] that's going to manifest in only one way
[01:28:04] and that means continued Israeli
[01:28:05] security presence in these regions along
[01:28:08] with increased investment to and take
[01:28:11] over of the educational system to maybe
[01:28:13] sometime in the future provide a pathway
[01:28:15] toward a moderate Palestinian governance
[01:28:17] in the meantime you know you can you can
[01:28:19] have local governance in these areas
[01:28:21] without giving them foreign policy
[01:28:22] governance which would be a disaster for
[01:28:23] the state state of Israel and for the
[01:28:24] Middle East more broadly thank you Ben
[01:28:27] thank you all righty
[01:28:29] folks is that it we done we are done
[01:28:32] thank you so much I really appreciate it
[01:28:33] thank you for coming
[01:28:34] [Applause]
[01:28:37] [Music]
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