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[00:00:00] All right, you guys. Happy Monday. And
[00:00:02] is everybody okay? I just want to check
[00:00:06] in to see if everybody's feeling okay
[00:00:08] because there are a lot of people online
[00:00:11] who are coming undone.
[00:00:14] What is it about the Charlie Kirk
[00:00:15] investigation? What is it about Charlie
[00:00:17] Kirk's assassination
[00:00:19] that is causing so much panic?
[00:00:23] They're saying, "I faked the text
[00:00:25] messages again, the ones I showed
[00:00:27] regarding Ben Shapiro. They got AI
[00:00:30] analysis.
[00:00:31] These are fake. They're sending experts,
[00:00:35] quote unquote, experts, out to diagnose
[00:00:37] me and my show, and they've decided
[00:00:39] we're a cult. Okay. Over the weekend,
[00:00:42] Grock, literally the AI robot, crashed
[00:00:44] out. He he crashed out. He couldn't keep
[00:00:46] up with the lies about me. And so then
[00:00:48] he stated the robot on top of a trend
[00:00:51] that Candace Owens has accused Marcus
[00:00:53] Hail of murdering Charlie Kirk this past
[00:00:56] October. I don't know what's going on.
[00:01:00] I'm just going to say that it's kind of
[00:01:02] weird how the only people that seem to
[00:01:04] believe the Fed story are Zionists and
[00:01:08] they demand that we accept the Fed story
[00:01:10] and their panic is making me think that
[00:01:12] we're getting closer to something and
[00:01:14] that something is pretty big and it's
[00:01:17] going to imply a lot of people. Um, I
[00:01:20] don't know. Today I'm gonna tell you
[00:01:22] guys about a particular person who is
[00:01:25] connected to Charlie Kirk and January
[00:01:28] 6th. So welcome back to Candace.
[00:01:46] Okay. Okay. So, something that I want to
[00:01:47] say right at the top here before we get
[00:01:49] further into the the Charlie Kirk story
[00:01:52] and speaking about January 6th and how
[00:01:54] somehow that's connected.
[00:01:56] There's something I learned that's
[00:01:57] bothering me. Just going to put it out
[00:01:59] there. See if it bothers you as well.
[00:02:01] But I learned via tips that the feds
[00:02:06] immediately seized the footage at
[00:02:09] Temponogos Hospital. Okay, Temponogos
[00:02:12] Hospital. Remember this is the hospital
[00:02:13] that it was quite strange that they
[00:02:14] moved to take Charlie to uh because it
[00:02:17] was further and also less equipped than
[00:02:21] UV hospital. Like it was like UV was a
[00:02:23] trauma 1 and Tonogos was trauma 3 and
[00:02:27] bunch of people said very strange that
[00:02:29] they took him here and then it got
[00:02:30] strange because we started hearing from
[00:02:32] other people that he was definitely at
[00:02:34] UV hospital. It was very weird. Anyways,
[00:02:36] I'd like to add to that by saying that
[00:02:39] on the day that Charlie was shot, for
[00:02:41] whatever reason, you know, Cash Patel
[00:02:42] injects himself into it, the feds seized
[00:02:45] all of the footage at the hospital that
[00:02:48] Charlie was brought to at Timbonos. That
[00:02:50] doesn't make sense to me. Nothing makes
[00:02:52] sense to me in this whole story. So,
[00:02:53] this is just kind of the icing on, you
[00:02:55] know, on the top here. Not even the
[00:02:56] icing on the top, but why would they
[00:02:59] move to seize that footage? How is that
[00:03:02] going to help their investigation?
[00:03:03] What's happening inside of Temponogos?
[00:03:05] How is that going to help their
[00:03:07] investigation? Their immediate boots on
[00:03:09] the ground investigation into who shot
[00:03:12] Charlie Kirk? They're trying. They're on
[00:03:13] a manhunt. Why are they going, "Okay,
[00:03:15] let's at first grab the footage at
[00:03:16] Tanogo." Does that make sense? Were you
[00:03:19] worried? Did a nurse call 911 and say,
[00:03:22] "Oh, a guy just ran in here with a gun
[00:03:24] and you need to see seize the the
[00:03:26] footage because that's going to help you
[00:03:27] track him down." If that didn't happen,
[00:03:29] why are you seizing that footage?
[00:03:32] I don't know. with everything that is
[00:03:34] going on and I would say almost the lack
[00:03:36] of information that we have at Tempanog,
[00:03:39] not a single person who captured uh them
[00:03:41] pulling up, nothing despite the fact
[00:03:43] that there were news cameras outside
[00:03:45] waiting oddly from like a new a New York
[00:03:48] news channel. Uh we have not seen
[00:03:50] anything regarding that that we can
[00:03:52] build in confidently on our timeline
[00:03:55] that would let us know what time in
[00:03:57] particular Charlie arrived at the
[00:03:58] hospital. And I feel like something's a
[00:04:00] miss if the feds moved to grab the
[00:04:03] footage inside of the hospital
[00:04:05] immediately and outside of the hospital
[00:04:07] immediately. So, just putting it out
[00:04:08] there. If you maybe were somebody who
[00:04:12] has footage and saw that black SUV pull
[00:04:14] up at the hospital, please get that to
[00:04:17] us at more tips at kennison.com because
[00:04:19] it's starting to bother me. Something
[00:04:20] there is starting to feel a miss.
[00:04:23] Everything's a miss. Anyway, there also
[00:04:26] happens to be another interesting
[00:04:29] constellation that's building here
[00:04:31] because as I said at the top, there is
[00:04:33] something about this investigation into
[00:04:36] Charlie Kirk and who who assassinated
[00:04:39] him that is causing extremely powerful
[00:04:43] people to panic. A network of powerful
[00:04:46] people. And by powerful people, I mean
[00:04:50] the feds. Okay, I don't know about you,
[00:04:53] but I'm starting to wonder if every
[00:04:56] major publicly traumatizing event may
[00:04:59] have actually just been organized by the
[00:05:01] feds. And rather than blaming
[00:05:03] themselves, the strategy that they
[00:05:06] always employ is to get out a narrative,
[00:05:08] a sloppy narrative like we saw this time
[00:05:10] with the Charlie Kirk assassination.
[00:05:12] That is one thing that I will say is so
[00:05:15] amazing. The only thing that has been
[00:05:16] amazing about the Charlie Kirk
[00:05:17] assassination is that it has brought the
[00:05:19] left and the right together. And what I
[00:05:21] mean by that is typically we're ready to
[00:05:23] take the Fed slop. This time it was the
[00:05:25] messages obviously and they're like,
[00:05:28] "Oh, my dad's MAGA. He just he was
[00:05:31] magging too hard." And the left was
[00:05:33] supposed to go, "See, it's his dad's
[00:05:35] fault. Magga's bad." And then the right
[00:05:38] was supposed to go, "Look, he transerson
[00:05:41] bad." This time though, we all went,
[00:05:44] "This is too evil. It feels
[00:05:46] orchestrated." And do you guys always do
[00:05:48] this? Like, is this what you guys do?
[00:05:51] That definitely Now that I'm reflecting,
[00:05:53] and I am including myself in this, that
[00:05:55] was kind of my old vibe, left or right.
[00:05:57] That was definitely the vibe of January
[00:06:00] 6th, right? We all took the bait. Just
[00:06:02] own it. Okay? If you're a lefty, own it.
[00:06:04] You were like, "MA is bad. If you're on
[00:06:06] the right, own it." We were like, "The
[00:06:08] left is bad. They're overthrowing an
[00:06:10] election." And we we did it on January
[00:06:12] 6th, 2020. I can tell you where I was. I
[00:06:14] was 9 months pregnant, my first child.
[00:06:17] And I was super MAGA at this time. I
[00:06:20] would have definitively gone to this
[00:06:22] Stop the Steel rally, but I was just too
[00:06:25] pregnant to go. And I was living in DC,
[00:06:27] so it was just down the street from me.
[00:06:28] And I reflect on that and I think, wow,
[00:06:30] that saved me because I I could have
[00:06:32] been swept up in what happened on
[00:06:34] January 6th. I could have been there. We
[00:06:36] all know how the story goes. Trump hosts
[00:06:38] this speech. She has this rally and then
[00:06:41] afterward people quote unquote storm the
[00:06:44] capital, break through the barriers and
[00:06:46] there's an insurrection and CNN is
[00:06:49] showing these clips in the footage and
[00:06:50] it's funny for me especially cuz I was
[00:06:52] right up the road and as a resident of
[00:06:55] DC literally living there and I was
[00:06:58] thinking how strange it was. I'm sitting
[00:07:00] on the couch with my husband and we
[00:07:01] start getting all these phone calls like
[00:07:02] from my sisters and family members
[00:07:03] asking if we're okay and we didn't have
[00:07:05] the news on and we're like yeah we're
[00:07:07] okay. So strange that you're calling. We
[00:07:09] don't even hear any noise. And it was
[00:07:10] actually the first time that there was
[00:07:11] peace in DC, meaning it was the summer
[00:07:14] of BLM riots. So, it was strange that we
[00:07:16] never got called when people's cars were
[00:07:18] getting smashed and things were being
[00:07:19] burned to the ground. But suddenly, we
[00:07:21] were getting phone calls because the
[00:07:22] media was there, you know, right there.
[00:07:25] MAG has gone too far and and they were
[00:07:27] showing all this footage and it was out
[00:07:29] of place. Right now, I knew instantly as
[00:07:34] a DC resident that the feds were
[00:07:35] involved because of the pipe bombs. That
[00:07:37] was it. I was I I knew they were
[00:07:39] involved when I heard that pipe bombs
[00:07:42] were mysteriously dropped off the night
[00:07:44] before um at the DNC headquarters, RNC
[00:07:48] headquarters, and we just don't know who
[00:07:50] did that because I live there and there
[00:07:53] it's I mean it's it's the capital so
[00:07:56] every square inch there's a camera. You
[00:07:58] just can't do that. You can't just get
[00:07:59] away from being a couple of blocks away
[00:08:01] from the White House and dropping off
[00:08:03] pipe bombs, right? Anyways, this weekend
[00:08:06] after five long years, finally the
[00:08:09] person, and I I will say allegedly, uh,
[00:08:12] because I guess we're gonna have to wait
[00:08:13] for the feds to dispute this, but the
[00:08:16] person responsible for dropping off
[00:08:17] those pipe bombs was revealed to be a
[00:08:21] fed. More specifically, a 31-year-old
[00:08:24] woman and a United States Capitol police
[00:08:26] officer named Shaunie Ray Kirkoff.
[00:08:29] Right. a man named reporter named Steve
[00:08:31] Baker deserves all of the credit on this
[00:08:34] amazing discovery. And I'm going to let
[00:08:36] you listen to Glenn Beck who is
[00:08:38] interviewing Steve Baker to tell you
[00:08:41] about how he came across this footage
[00:08:43] and how that went down
[00:08:45] >> when I stumbled on what I stumbled on.
[00:08:48] And because I, as I said, I've been
[00:08:50] pulling these threads for years and I
[00:08:52] pulled one last Wednesday, a week, two
[00:08:54] weeks ago today rather. And when I
[00:08:57] pulled this thread,
[00:09:00] I was so shocked by what I saw,
[00:09:03] I immediately took it to a source in one
[00:09:07] of the most important, highest level
[00:09:10] investigative federal agencies in the
[00:09:12] country. I immediately took it to our
[00:09:15] sources there and I said, "You have to
[00:09:17] see this." After they looked at it for
[00:09:21] about two hours, the response that I got
[00:09:24] back was, "Holy f".
[00:09:29] And then the follow-up response was,
[00:09:33] "She's one of us."
[00:09:40] And when you find out the position, um,
[00:09:44] I mean, this is going to lead, it's not
[00:09:46] just this one person. This now will
[00:09:48] implicate
[00:09:50] so many people at the highest levels
[00:09:54] that had to have known because
[00:09:58] of of what happened after January 6th. I
[00:10:00] mean, it's it's but this I mean, how big
[00:10:04] does this net get?
[00:10:07] >> How big does this net get? I'm feeling
[00:10:09] this way about the Charlie Kirk
[00:10:11] investigation. A lot of people are going
[00:10:12] to get swept up in this investigation.
[00:10:15] perhaps the same people that are going
[00:10:16] to get swept up in the January 6th and
[00:10:18] it's not going to be this left or right
[00:10:20] story right now. Much more is going to
[00:10:22] come out. I'm not here to cover all of
[00:10:24] January 6th uh and and what they have
[00:10:26] been unpacking. More will come out in
[00:10:28] the coming days. What we do know is,
[00:10:30] like I said, this was a 5-year
[00:10:31] investigation. It involved forensic
[00:10:33] analysis. Uh, a CIA spokeswoman Liz Lion
[00:10:37] stated that Shaunie Kirkoff, uh, the
[00:10:39] alleged person who dropped off these
[00:10:41] pipe bombs, worked in campus, Capitol
[00:10:43] Police campus security. Uh, she lives in
[00:10:45] Alexandria, Virginia. She is apparently
[00:10:48] now under the watch of law enforcement
[00:10:50] officers because the Blaze news
[00:10:52] editor-inchief decided to pull up to her
[00:10:55] house to just kind of see if any action
[00:10:57] was happening at her home. And then he
[00:10:59] instantly got stopped by local police
[00:11:01] before they allowed him to leave. Now,
[00:11:03] Surprise, surprise. I think it's always
[00:11:05] the feds. And we might be being ruled by
[00:11:08] criminals like I don't know, Jeffrey
[00:11:11] Epstein. Who?
[00:11:13] >> Are you still talking about Jeffrey
[00:11:14] Epstein?
[00:11:16] >> We're still talking about Jeffrey
[00:11:17] Epstey. Now, if we are allowed to follow
[00:11:21] this idea that the feds are behind major
[00:11:24] politically divisive events, then we
[00:11:26] have to ask ourselves who exactly was
[00:11:28] behind organizing the stop the steel
[00:11:30] rally event itself. And interestingly
[00:11:33] enough, on the quote unquote Republican
[00:11:36] side, Christian Zionist pastors were
[00:11:39] heavily involved in not just influencing
[00:11:42] the public, right? Uh understanding
[00:11:45] right away telling the public, the
[00:11:46] Republicans, that we had to fight for
[00:11:49] justice, they went out immediately
[00:11:51] follow the following election uh
[00:11:53] results. One person was Lance Wallno.
[00:11:56] Okay, I want you to remember this guy's
[00:11:57] name. Lance Wallno. Immediately, just 3
[00:12:00] days after the election of 2020, on
[00:12:02] November 6th, he publishes this onto his
[00:12:05] Facebook page. Okay? It says, "We're
[00:12:08] going to expose the fraud and stop the
[00:12:11] steel. The Lord our God is with us and
[00:12:13] we were built for this battle. Be strong
[00:12:16] and courageous." So that's three days
[00:12:17] after he's saying, "Stop the steel. Be
[00:12:20] strong. Be courageous." And Lance, who
[00:12:23] is a charismatic preacher, wasn't the
[00:12:25] only charismatic preacher or pastor that
[00:12:28] instantly threw their weight behind
[00:12:30] quote unquote stopping the steel.
[00:12:32] Actually, four out of the six uh protest
[00:12:37] permits that were issued on January 6th
[00:12:39] were issued to independent charismatic
[00:12:43] Christian groups. Okay. 15 of these
[00:12:46] pastors and leaders surrounded Trump at
[00:12:49] the White House leading up to the
[00:12:50] January 6th um stop the steel rally
[00:12:54] telling him that the war was now
[00:12:56] spiritual. So they're in his ear. This
[00:12:58] is spiritual. This is what you have to
[00:12:59] do. Uh Mr. President, okay, there's an
[00:13:02] article about that. The new apostolic
[00:13:05] reformation drove the January 6th riots.
[00:13:09] So why was it overlooked by the House
[00:13:11] Select Committee? This person asks.
[00:13:13] Okay. NAR. I brought this up to you
[00:13:15] before. Lance Wallnau is in this
[00:13:17] article. So is Shan Fu. Now you're
[00:13:20] thinking uh these names might sound
[00:13:23] familiar. Certainly Sean Foy, I brought
[00:13:24] him up to you regarding TPUs faith who
[00:13:27] who started to lead uh these events that
[00:13:29] they were having. So who is Lance Wall
[00:13:32] now? Well, he is one of these NAR
[00:13:34] preachers like I said who came up with
[00:13:37] their seven mountain mandate. Okay.
[00:13:41] Charlie began to be get become very
[00:13:43] interested in the seven mountain
[00:13:45] mandate. I would say like he became
[00:13:46] mesmerized by the seven mountain
[00:13:48] mandate. He became friends with Lance
[00:13:50] Wall. Now I'm going to let you listen to
[00:13:52] Lance himself describe this seven
[00:13:55] mountain mandate in his own words.
[00:13:59] >> Hi, I'm Lance Walnau. I want to talk to
[00:14:01] you for a moment about this concept
[00:14:02] called the 7M mandate. In reality, it
[00:14:06] started with a conversation I had in the
[00:14:08] year 2000. I had been talking to Lauren
[00:14:10] Cunningham who's the founder of Youth
[00:14:12] with a Mission and Lauren was sharing
[00:14:15] with me about a conversation he had had
[00:14:16] with Bill Brightite. The two of them
[00:14:18] were visited actually by the Lord within
[00:14:20] the same 24 hours and God spoke to them
[00:14:23] and said they had a message to give the
[00:14:25] other man. And the message was that
[00:14:27] there are seven molders of culture or
[00:14:29] seven world kingdoms and that he who
[00:14:32] could take those kingdoms could take the
[00:14:35] harvest of nations. Now this
[00:14:37] illustration is the way I see it. I look
[00:14:40] at it this way. I see those seven
[00:14:42] molders of culture as being the religion
[00:14:45] mountain as a metaphor for something
[00:14:47] you've got to take or climb. Uh then we
[00:14:50] have education, we could say, family.
[00:14:53] These are in no particular order of
[00:14:54] importance. They all represent the
[00:14:57] forces that shape societies and nations.
[00:15:00] government, media,
[00:15:03] art
[00:15:05] which is the entertainment mountain and
[00:15:07] uh business which is where we have the
[00:15:09] economics mountain happening also. Now
[00:15:11] these seven fields of influence are very
[00:15:13] powerful. So powerful in fact that he
[00:15:16] who occupies the top of those mountains
[00:15:19] can literally shape the agenda that that
[00:15:22] forms nations. The foundation of the
[00:15:25] prosperity of nations is going to have
[00:15:28] to be the teaching of Jesus. The good
[00:15:32] news is you can do that covert or you
[00:15:35] can do that overt. You can be like I
[00:15:38] always say, you could actually be
[00:15:40] following that thing from Jehovah Reef
[00:15:42] Roofi, Jehovah Ni, Jehovah Sidkanu, or
[00:15:45] Jehovah Sneaky.
[00:15:47] Because God has a way of getting into
[00:15:49] positions, companies, businesses,
[00:15:51] nations, and communities before the
[00:15:52] devil even knows what got in there.
[00:15:54] Because the gospel is bigger than just
[00:15:56] the church mountain. It's the gospel
[00:15:58] that covers the whole earth.
[00:16:02] So what he's describing there and what
[00:16:04] they believe is that there are new
[00:16:06] prophets, there are new apostles, they
[00:16:08] have the seven mountain mandate. And
[00:16:10] when he is speaking about covertly, he
[00:16:12] means that. Okay, this is a philosophy
[00:16:14] of infiltration. And he says, but before
[00:16:16] people even know, boom, he describes it
[00:16:19] as a devil. Before people know, boom,
[00:16:21] everyone around them is actually working
[00:16:23] for a higher purpose.
[00:16:25] Man, I got to say kind of sort of
[00:16:27] reminds me of what happened to Charlie,
[00:16:31] right? This is kind of where this is
[00:16:32] going. Turning Point Faith, everywhere
[00:16:35] that I'm investigating, turning point
[00:16:38] faith keeps coming up. These characters
[00:16:40] keep coming up and there's a pattern
[00:16:41] that I'm noticing that a lot of these
[00:16:43] mainstream pastors and preachers
[00:16:46] actually come from highranking military
[00:16:48] families. High ranking military families
[00:16:50] that have been around for a long time.
[00:16:51] ties to the Navy times uh ties to the
[00:16:54] Air Force, Frank Turk, Air Force. Uh Rob
[00:16:57] McCoy, we discussed about his
[00:16:58] background, his naval background,
[00:17:00] psychological operations. They're
[00:17:02] literally named like a fleet of ships
[00:17:04] after his father. Uh like there was like
[00:17:06] the McCoy naval something. Lance
[00:17:10] Wallnau, he's no different. He graduated
[00:17:12] from a military academy. His father,
[00:17:14] Carl Walnau, was a major in the United
[00:17:18] States Air Force. Okay. Wall now served
[00:17:21] under General Patton. After the war, he
[00:17:24] then continued his adventures as a field
[00:17:26] engineer for standard oil, okay,
[00:17:30] building high pressure uh liquid propane
[00:17:33] installations throughout political
[00:17:35] revolutions in the world. So he he would
[00:17:37] go and do that in Haiti, in Cuba,
[00:17:39] Dominican Republic, places that I would
[00:17:41] argue that we cause a lot of drama in.
[00:17:44] I'm just saying. So Lance fits the
[00:17:47] pattern well. And before I tell you how
[00:17:49] he is very connected to Turning Point
[00:17:51] USA faith, uh, I do want to also be
[00:17:54] clear that Frank Turk stands out because
[00:17:56] he flat out acknowledged on one of his
[00:17:59] podcasts that NAR was a cult. Actually
[00:18:02] darker than a cult. Take a listen to
[00:18:03] what Frank Turk said about NAR.
[00:18:06] >> So technically a group and NAR stands
[00:18:08] for what again?
[00:18:09] >> I'm sorry, the New Apostolic
[00:18:11] Reformation.
[00:18:11] >> That's Bill Johnson out there in
[00:18:13] California, Northern California. We'll
[00:18:15] talk about him in a minute. uh but word
[00:18:17] of faith movement they don't necessarily
[00:18:20] add subtract multiply or divide but
[00:18:24] they're hermeneutic the way they
[00:18:26] interpret the scriptures is aberrant
[00:18:29] >> and it and they interpret the scriptures
[00:18:31] in such a way that their practice uh
[00:18:35] follows this aberant theology that they
[00:18:37] have
[00:18:39] >> and they wind up doing things that are
[00:18:41] more newagy or more even occult-like
[00:18:44] than they are Christian,
[00:18:47] >> the occult and that is correct. Now,
[00:18:50] Frank Turk, this didn't stop him uh
[00:18:53] didn't or I didn't make him go warn
[00:18:55] Charlie about this in any way as these
[00:18:57] people began to infiltrate his
[00:18:59] organization and Lance Wall worked his
[00:19:02] way into Turning Point USA. I had a
[00:19:05] phone call with someone, by the way,
[00:19:06] who's extremely close to this current
[00:19:08] administration, and they said completely
[00:19:09] off-handedly, we were not even really
[00:19:11] discussing Charlie, but then they said,
[00:19:12] you know, something that's really weird.
[00:19:13] I was at Charlie's memorial.
[00:19:16] She said, "When did Turning Point become
[00:19:19] so faith focused?" She's like, "I
[00:19:21] remember obviously Charlie always spoke
[00:19:22] about his evangelical faith." She's
[00:19:23] like, "But when you guys were running
[00:19:25] around starting all these Turning Point
[00:19:26] chapters, it was all about free markets
[00:19:27] and capitalism." And she was like, "And
[00:19:28] I was at the rally and it was suddenly
[00:19:30] faith, faith, faith, faith, pastor,
[00:19:32] pastor, pastor, pastor." And I said, you
[00:19:34] know, that is actually interesting. That
[00:19:36] is true that it just kind of started um
[00:19:40] and then it was almost the biggest thing
[00:19:42] about Turning Point. It's really
[00:19:44] interesting to consider that Turning
[00:19:46] Point suddenly got super duper faithful
[00:19:49] with what I would say is an interesting
[00:19:52] cast of characters, the wrong
[00:19:53] characters. Okay, Rob McCoy leading that
[00:19:56] frontier as we know. What people don't
[00:19:59] know publicly is that Lance Wall now was
[00:20:01] working with him. Okay. He was
[00:20:03] intimately involved and more
[00:20:05] importantly, he was financially
[00:20:06] involved. Sources within Turning Point's
[00:20:08] faith department tell me that Lance was
[00:20:11] running the show behind the scenes
[00:20:13] through funding that he put a ton of
[00:20:15] money into Turning Point USA faith
[00:20:18] operations. Now, um I guess a better way
[00:20:22] for me to state this cuz I want to be
[00:20:23] super clear here is that Lance Wallnau,
[00:20:25] who was from a military family and who
[00:20:29] is saying that he believes in
[00:20:30] infiltration as a means to climb
[00:20:33] mountains and overtake society, however
[00:20:35] he just described that, right, was
[00:20:38] privately directing large sums of money
[00:20:42] into turning point faith. Okay. He's
[00:20:44] friends with Rob Macau, Rob McCoy. Um,
[00:20:48] and he eventually did tour stops with
[00:20:50] Turning Point Faith and he knew Charlie.
[00:20:52] He said Charlie was his friend. I think
[00:20:55] truly as a society that we need to start
[00:20:58] focusing our attention, okay,
[00:21:00] independently, uh, Village Crazy Lady. I
[00:21:03] told you guys about Mel on X. She's been
[00:21:04] doing great work on this. But you need
[00:21:06] to start investigating this faith mil
[00:21:09] military constellation. We can call it
[00:21:11] the militant faith pipeline because it's
[00:21:14] getting a little much for me. I mean, I
[00:21:16] told you guys, you start looking at that
[00:21:18] and you wonder about other events that
[00:21:21] have happened in the past, right? There
[00:21:23] were a ton of conspiracies following
[00:21:26] October 1st, 2017
[00:21:29] when the Las Vegas shooting happened,
[00:21:31] largest mass shooting in American
[00:21:33] history, and it was almost instantly
[00:21:36] covered up.
[00:21:38] 58 people were murdered. More than 600
[00:21:41] others were injured. And they told us
[00:21:43] that it was just a lone shooter, Steven
[00:21:46] Paddock, some crazy guy who acted alone.
[00:21:48] Conspiracy theorists said it was a
[00:21:50] military operation. And there was ton of
[00:21:52] evidence to support that. Okay. Fast
[00:21:55] forward a year later on November 7th of
[00:21:58] 2018, and there's almost this like Las
[00:22:01] Vegas shooting hangover that happens in
[00:22:05] uh Thousand Oaks, California.
[00:22:07] Oddly, uh about 40 people who were at
[00:22:10] the Las Vegas shooting were all at the
[00:22:13] borderline bar one night when a Marine
[00:22:16] who family knows Rob McCoy well. Rob
[00:22:19] McCoy is friends with that Marine uh
[00:22:23] decides to that Marine's mother decides
[00:22:25] to storm into a bar and conduct a mass
[00:22:28] shooting. And a victim of that bar
[00:22:31] shooting was a 27-year-old Navy veteran
[00:22:34] who had survived the Las Vegas shooting.
[00:22:37] So, it just makes me wonder, was he a
[00:22:39] victim or was he a target? Right? We
[00:22:42] have to start asking these questions.
[00:22:44] Um, this is a headline from the BBC
[00:22:46] regarding the Las Vegas shooting uh and
[00:22:50] thousand I'm sorry, the Thousand Oak
[00:22:51] shooting at the Borderline Bar and
[00:22:52] Grill. The Las Vegas shooting survivor
[00:22:55] being among the dead. We're not getting
[00:22:58] answers to any of these questions and
[00:23:00] they're telling everybody that these are
[00:23:01] just conspiracies. It's always a
[00:23:03] conspiracy. Uh when you start
[00:23:05] questioning these Fed narratives, uh one
[00:23:08] survivor said that the group of them
[00:23:10] were meeting up for a second time in
[00:23:13] about a year, having I guess like a
[00:23:14] little Las Vegas reunion, and that's why
[00:23:16] they were all there. Uh the the point
[00:23:18] being is
[00:23:21] following this, a month after this, Rob
[00:23:23] McCoy then gets elected mayor of um of
[00:23:27] Thousand Oaks. He's mayor for a year.
[00:23:30] And I'm just starting to ask a lot of
[00:23:32] questions about what is happening here.
[00:23:35] Uh who is funding these groups? Who is
[00:23:38] funding these pastors? Who is funding
[00:23:40] these churches? We're getting a lot of
[00:23:42] weird stories about these churches uh
[00:23:44] that are coming out. I shared something
[00:23:46] over the weekend about Romanian sex
[00:23:49] trafficking on my on my ex feed um that
[00:23:52] is involving one of these churches, one
[00:23:56] of these big churches out in California.
[00:23:58] And I'm saying it's time to start
[00:23:59] proddding the narrative because I'm
[00:24:01] thinking that perhaps faith has been
[00:24:03] hijacked. And like I said, and we are
[00:24:06] going to have some explosive stuff for
[00:24:08] you on Wednesday um that we have
[00:24:11] discovered about this Charlie case. The
[00:24:14] faith element is compelling and I am not
[00:24:18] convinced that these people that stand
[00:24:20] on stages and tell you to stop following
[00:24:23] Tucker Carlson are working on behalf of
[00:24:27] the Lord. Okay? I don't think that
[00:24:30] that's the case. I think these people
[00:24:31] that are telling you that you are not
[00:24:32] allowed to question Israel or you're
[00:24:33] going to go to hell are not working on
[00:24:37] behalf of God. I think that they worship
[00:24:41] specific people with military ties. In
[00:24:44] fact, they are just following orders.
[00:24:46] But there's a picture here that's
[00:24:47] emerging that we should not ignore. So,
[00:24:50] we we will pause there um before we get
[00:24:52] into some of these bizarre responses
[00:24:55] that I've been going through, militant
[00:24:56] responses that I've been going through
[00:24:57] on ex from Christian Zionists. Um we'll
[00:25:00] be right back. All right, you guys.
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[00:27:08] So, there is definitely something going
[00:27:10] on here with these mega churches and
[00:27:12] these mega pastors. And what I was just
[00:27:14] referring to in the monologue was in
[00:27:16] California where a lot of these churches
[00:27:18] mega churches are, uh, there's been
[00:27:20] another megaurch pastor that was accused
[00:27:22] of trafficking children. They have
[00:27:25] trafficking children from Romania of all
[00:27:30] places. And that uh former megaurch
[00:27:34] pastor, I'm going to give you his name
[00:27:35] here, Paul Havsgard, right? A
[00:27:39] missionary. Again, this element of
[00:27:40] missionary going around the world on
[00:27:42] these missions. I just something is just
[00:27:44] stinking to high heaven. I'd like to
[00:27:46] press my finger here. And I don't
[00:27:47] particularly love the reaction that
[00:27:49] we're seeing from Christian Zionist
[00:27:50] right now. I don't even know how to
[00:27:51] describe what is happening over in
[00:27:53] Christian Zionist land. It is wacky.
[00:27:56] It's It is definitively exceptional.
[00:27:58] I've never seen it. There's anger.
[00:28:00] There's tears. There's frustration.
[00:28:02] There's fatigue. There's defeat. And of
[00:28:05] course, there's biblical scripture.
[00:28:07] Right. When my show hit number one
[00:28:09] globally last week, it was just an
[00:28:11] allout virtual war. Seth Dylan from the
[00:28:14] Babylon tweeted this. This is hilarious.
[00:28:17] He obviously just tweets a verse trying
[00:28:18] to make it seem like again this is what
[00:28:20] they do Christian Zionists. They will
[00:28:22] find a ver a verse to be petty and like
[00:28:24] use scripture to justify who they really
[00:28:27] just want to insult me or Ter Carlson
[00:28:28] to. And what do you benefit if you gain
[00:28:30] the whole world but lose your own soul?
[00:28:33] Okay. Like that's not like that is are
[00:28:35] you out of your mind? Actually, I didn't
[00:28:37] sell my soul, right? All of you guys
[00:28:39] did. I had to literally build from
[00:28:42] scratch because I was rejected
[00:28:44] everywhere plus cancelled. You you shut
[00:28:47] down. You went after my sponsors. You
[00:28:50] emailed people. You got me banned from
[00:28:52] Australia. I actually did the exact
[00:28:54] opposite. I didn't sell my soul and I
[00:28:56] said what was right about what was
[00:28:59] happening in Gaza. So, there's that.
[00:29:00] Joel Barry, who also was at the Babylon,
[00:29:03] so real funny guys, um wrote this. In
[00:29:06] the last year, Candace and Tucker have
[00:29:08] given our side nothing but
[00:29:09] demoralization, division, confusion, and
[00:29:11] conflict. Their impact on the right has
[00:29:13] been devastating. They've made us
[00:29:15] weaker, and they've won nothing except
[00:29:16] clicks and ad revenue for themselves.
[00:29:19] Pathetic. Strange. I've never been on
[00:29:21] the same side as Joel Barry. Just want
[00:29:22] to clarify that. I am never on the side
[00:29:24] of people that cheer on kids being
[00:29:25] killed and uh churches being bombed and
[00:29:28] and insinuate as he did that even the
[00:29:31] Christians in Gaza should are aren't
[00:29:34] really human beings and that they're all
[00:29:35] supporting Hamas which is basically
[00:29:37] justifying a genocide, right?
[00:29:40] Justification of genocide. I have never
[00:29:42] been on your side. Then there were these
[00:29:45] compounding lies. Okay. Obviously,
[00:29:49] last week we watched Ben press Megan on
[00:29:53] stage. Very strange to see him do
[00:29:55] something like that, to see him just lie
[00:29:57] and try to pressure her with the lie.
[00:29:59] And it was also on the day that it was
[00:30:01] announced that this podcast was number
[00:30:02] one globally. I responded on my show
[00:30:04] with the truth. Showed you screenshots
[00:30:07] of what Charlie had said, said told you
[00:30:10] honestly that he had kind of prevented
[00:30:12] Charlie from coming up. And that was
[00:30:14] certainly how Charlie felt. And then
[00:30:16] some guy on Frank Mc named uh Frank
[00:30:18] McCormack on X started circulating. And
[00:30:21] then of course I instantly made a trend
[00:30:23] that I forged the text messages that I
[00:30:26] just made them up and I was just going
[00:30:28] to be so risky and throw these text
[00:30:31] messages up and just lie as if I wasn't
[00:30:34] going to get debunked quickly. Anyways,
[00:30:36] this is what he wrote on there. Candace
[00:30:38] Owens recently posted what she claims
[00:30:40] are more text messages from Charlie
[00:30:42] Kirk. He asked chat GPT to analyze. Look
[00:30:45] at this next one. Um, if you want to
[00:30:47] skip over to the next, he he analyzed
[00:30:49] the bubble design, the profile
[00:30:51] placement, the header layout, font
[00:30:53] spacing, color balance, and he
[00:30:56] discovered that these were digitally
[00:30:57] fabricated. Bro, you didn't have to do
[00:30:59] any of that. You could just asked me to
[00:31:02] show you the messages. I I show messages
[00:31:04] on this show. Like, I'm happy to show
[00:31:05] you guys this live. So, just to give you
[00:31:07] the receipts here. Wait, Skyler, can you
[00:31:09] tell me in my ear what did the message
[00:31:11] even say? Because I can look it up. Just
[00:31:12] give me like a sentence.
[00:31:16] Okay, keep going.
[00:31:24] Okay, hold on.
[00:31:27] Uh, that's not populating. It was
[00:31:29] because I the way that it's spaced. Can
[00:31:30] you give me the sentence after that?
[00:31:35] There we go. That will work. We just
[00:31:38] have to treat him
[00:31:42] like
[00:31:44] noise.
[00:31:46] Are there typos in that? Here we go. I
[00:31:49] found it. There we go. A little bit of
[00:31:52] typos. There we go. Okay. Here we go,
[00:31:54] guys. Just to show you this. Just looked
[00:31:57] up on my phone. These are not made up
[00:31:59] text messages. You probably want to see
[00:32:00] the date here and see the time sliding.
[00:32:03] Hold on. We did not make up these
[00:32:06] messages. Okay.
[00:32:09] Iron sharpens iron. It's not a dominant
[00:32:11] partnership. Each hand washes the other.
[00:32:13] It is what Christ talked about as true
[00:32:15] partnership. Reliant yet separate. None
[00:32:18] other dominant. Of course, there were
[00:32:20] struggle disagreement, but each side
[00:32:22] gets stronger and sharper because of the
[00:32:24] other. This is us describing our
[00:32:25] partnership. These are just real. What
[00:32:28] an absolute nonsense to think that I
[00:32:29] would make up text messages. Like it's
[00:32:33] just such a nonsense. I don't even know
[00:32:34] what would be the point of that. What
[00:32:35] would be the point of that? Okay, I was
[00:32:37] very clear at the beginning of this
[00:32:39] entire thing. No fakeness and no
[00:32:41] gayness. You know, I ask that if you,
[00:32:43] you know, didn't get along with Charlie,
[00:32:45] you don't think that you can just drop a
[00:32:46] million dollars and then rewrite
[00:32:48] history. Okay? You might have money, we
[00:32:51] have truth. That's what's on our side.
[00:32:53] Also, to build upon that, I saw a clip
[00:32:55] of Ali Stucky, who I very much like. I
[00:32:57] ve I've been clear about that. I very
[00:32:58] much like Ali Stucky. very surprised
[00:33:01] she's working with Alyssa Cordova, but
[00:33:03] she's also in very rare form. I don't
[00:33:05] know what's driving that. And she kind
[00:33:08] of, I guess I don't know when this live
[00:33:10] was taken, presumably over the last
[00:33:12] week. I just saw it circulating.
[00:33:14] Said to people that we should shouldn't
[00:33:16] be asking these questions about the
[00:33:18] Charlie Kirk assassination. Anyways, I'm
[00:33:19] not going to put words in your mouth.
[00:33:20] Listen to Ally Stucky.
[00:33:23] >> I'm just really tired of some of y'all
[00:33:25] not thinking. I really am. You say that
[00:33:28] you're seeking truth and asking
[00:33:29] questions, but you're actually just
[00:33:30] outsourcing your critical thinking and
[00:33:32] your question asking to someone else and
[00:33:34] you're never really asking questions.
[00:33:36] You're never saying does that make
[00:33:37] sense? Or what could be the other side
[00:33:39] of that story? Or what is the
[00:33:41] alternative explanation for that? Or are
[00:33:43] these two things actually connected by
[00:33:45] evidence or does it just sound
[00:33:46] compelling? This is not a Netflix
[00:33:48] series. It's not an Agatha Christie
[00:33:50] novel. You're not watching a who done it
[00:33:53] movie. These are people's real lives.
[00:33:55] And if you are implicating a real person
[00:33:57] in a murder plot, you better be 100%
[00:34:00] sure that it is true and backed by hard
[00:34:04] evidence.
[00:34:08] Think. Turn on your brain. The thoughts
[00:34:11] we think and the words we say not only
[00:34:14] affect real people's lives, but they
[00:34:16] carry weight in eternity. We are
[00:34:18] responsible for these things. I'm going
[00:34:20] to take that seriously, but you should,
[00:34:22] too. Look y'all, I don't even want
[00:34:26] There's I've just been wrestling with
[00:34:27] this so much over the past few weeks.
[00:34:31] I don't want the drama. I don't I don't
[00:34:33] have the the the time and energy that it
[00:34:36] takes to go through to make all of these
[00:34:40] claims first is incredible. But then to
[00:34:42] go through and debunk all of these
[00:34:43] claims, I don't have that time. I don't
[00:34:46] have that energy. I don't have that
[00:34:47] capacity. I don't
[00:34:52] Look, Ally, I I just think she should
[00:34:54] take a break. Like, I genuinely didn't
[00:34:55] even know she was going through it like
[00:34:56] this. Like, I didn't I don't think we
[00:34:58] asked her for any assistance at all.
[00:35:00] Actually, I did all the work. Um, and
[00:35:02] people sent me stuff and then we put
[00:35:04] together a timeline. And here's what I
[00:35:05] want to say because you're saying it's
[00:35:06] real life. It was Charlie's real life,
[00:35:09] Ally. That was Charlie's real life when
[00:35:11] you saw him sitting there and he got
[00:35:12] shot. That was his real life. So, I feel
[00:35:14] like that that's the part you're missing
[00:35:15] because you're so worried about the
[00:35:17] surrounding cast of characters who have
[00:35:18] been literally caught lying. They lied.
[00:35:21] That's why we're here. Okay? We didn't
[00:35:23] just randomly pluck people up from
[00:35:24] obscurity. Okay? These are people who
[00:35:26] said he had blood on him. He's amazing.
[00:35:29] He was so amazing, but he walked away
[00:35:30] from Charlie as he was bleeding out. His
[00:35:32] real life. That was his real life. Okay?
[00:35:35] So, that's what's on the line right here
[00:35:37] is he's not here anymore. Maybe you're
[00:35:39] not worried about him. Um, but I am. I'm
[00:35:42] actually worried and I want to know what
[00:35:43] happened to Charlie Kirk, okay? And why
[00:35:46] I feel like you and so many Christian
[00:35:48] Zionists just kind of wanted to turn him
[00:35:50] into a ghost. Like, you know, Charlie
[00:35:51] the friendly ghost and are not
[00:35:54] interested at all. And if you're looking
[00:35:55] for real life Agatha Christie stuff, uh,
[00:35:58] in real life, people's necks don't stop
[00:36:01] 306 bullets. In real life, that's all
[00:36:04] I'm saying. In real life, when you spend
[00:36:06] millions of dollars on security, on your
[00:36:08] security detail, they don't have you
[00:36:10] sitting like a sitting duck and forget
[00:36:13] to have an ambulance behind you. In real
[00:36:15] life, I worked for Turning Point USA,
[00:36:17] and I know what does not make sense in
[00:36:19] terms of the timeline of how this event
[00:36:21] came together. And in real life, if
[00:36:23] somebody suspects you in a murder for
[00:36:26] any reason whatsoever, and you can put
[00:36:28] something out publicly that will clarify
[00:36:30] a fact that isn't correct, if you say
[00:36:32] it's not correct, you would do that. You
[00:36:34] wouldn't hide in 4 seconds. I would say,
[00:36:37] "Oh, this is oh, the reason why I was on
[00:36:38] the phone with so and so had nothing to
[00:36:40] do with anything." So, people are
[00:36:42] following their instincts because they
[00:36:43] should. But I just want to remind you
[00:36:44] because it bothers me that that was
[00:36:46] Charlie's real life. Okay, that was
[00:36:48] Charlie's real life. Ally, right? And
[00:36:50] move on for that. See, you're stressed
[00:36:52] out. I'm stressed out, too, to be honest
[00:36:53] with you. And we're not the only people
[00:36:55] that are stressed out because apparently
[00:36:56] Grock is stressed out because it can't
[00:36:58] keep up with the lies that are being
[00:36:59] spread about me. So, he had some sort of
[00:37:01] a a software crash out. This was him
[00:37:04] being like, "I'm tired. I'm tired." And
[00:37:06] sitting in his car.
[00:37:09] I'm just going to show you what Grock
[00:37:11] said at the top here. Um, no, I want the
[00:37:14] Grock headline. Candace Owens accuses
[00:37:16] Turning Point USA of Charlie Kirk
[00:37:18] assassination role. And then it says
[00:37:21] Candace Owens alleged Turning Point USA
[00:37:24] orchestrated the October 15th, 2025
[00:37:28] assassination of its founder, Charlie
[00:37:30] Kirk, in Phoenix, Arizona by former
[00:37:32] volunteer Marcus Hail, who police say
[00:37:36] acted alone with no evidence. Ben
[00:37:38] Shapiro publicly condemned Owens's
[00:37:40] claims as evil. And then yeah, he it's
[00:37:44] just none of this is real. Like you guys
[00:37:46] are exhausting not just Ally Stucky,
[00:37:49] you're exhausting Grock. So much so many
[00:37:52] lies being made up about me. If you
[00:37:54] don't have time to look at the facts and
[00:37:55] see what we've come up with and that's
[00:37:56] fine, but you're not required to
[00:37:58] interject here. I just want everybody to
[00:38:00] know that. Grock, Ally, everyone, you
[00:38:02] are not required to take part in this.
[00:38:04] And we're not stopping. Okay? And I just
[00:38:07] sense I just sense that we're getting
[00:38:10] close. And when I tell you on Wednesday
[00:38:12] what we discovered about those Egyptian
[00:38:14] military planes,
[00:38:17] I think some more people are going to be
[00:38:18] on the run. Anyways, the oddest response
[00:38:21] came from Mark Levvin, who has been kind
[00:38:24] of psychopathically obsessed with
[00:38:26] destroying Tucker Carlson for years now.
[00:38:28] He was very happy when Tucker Carlson
[00:38:30] got fired from Fox News. They don't seem
[00:38:32] to be friends. And it regarding Mark
[00:38:35] Levin, if a person was actually like,
[00:38:38] "You should move to Israel because it
[00:38:39] would make you happy happier." If that
[00:38:41] was a person, that would be Mark
[00:38:42] Leavvin. Okay.
[00:38:45] Turning point USA, credit to them, said,
[00:38:47] "We are not canceling Tucker Carlson."
[00:38:49] Despite the pure pressure, despite them
[00:38:51] sending out every queen and pawn on the
[00:38:53] board to make that happen, they said,
[00:38:54] "He's still speaking." And not only is
[00:38:56] he speaking, but why don't why don't you
[00:38:58] debate uh Mark Leavvin, debate Tucker
[00:39:00] Carlson on stage. And this is how Mark
[00:39:03] Leavvin responded. It's incredible. And
[00:39:05] I'm actually going to roll the whole
[00:39:07] thing. It's about 2 and a half minutes,
[00:39:08] but I want you guys to listen to him.
[00:39:10] >> I got a very strange text this morning
[00:39:12] from Tucker Carlson,
[00:39:14] 10:16 a.m. I'll read it to you for
[00:39:16] verbatim. Good morning. He writes to me,
[00:39:19] "The leadership at Turning Point has
[00:39:22] asked me to debate you at their event in
[00:39:24] Scottsdale in December. I'm happy to do
[00:39:27] it, and I hope you'll agree as well.
[00:39:29] Beyond the personal insults which I'll
[00:39:31] try to keep to a minimum, there are real
[00:39:33] and important ideological differences
[00:39:35] between us and I think the country would
[00:39:38] benefit from an extended conversation
[00:39:40] about them. So again, I hope you'll
[00:39:42] accept. Let me know. Thanks.
[00:39:47] The guy is desperate. He's taking a hit
[00:39:50] on his podcast.
[00:39:52] He's fighting like hell for his career.
[00:39:54] He's fighting like hell for his
[00:39:56] reputation. People are awakening to what
[00:39:59] scum he actually is.
[00:40:01] And he thinks I'm going to platform him.
[00:40:05] He thinks I'm going to help him kick up
[00:40:06] his podcast ratings.
[00:40:09] What would Charlie say? What would Rush
[00:40:11] say? What would any rational response?
[00:40:14] Here it is. I wrote him the following.
[00:40:17] My family and I want nothing to do with
[00:40:19] you. what you've become, your vile
[00:40:22] liables against my faith, millions of
[00:40:25] Christians, and in my view,
[00:40:27] what you seek to do to our country.
[00:40:29] There's nothing to debate. You're a Nazi
[00:40:32] promoter. You're the modern-day David
[00:40:34] Duke. I debate people with whom I
[00:40:37] disagree for a living, who are a lot
[00:40:39] smarter than you, but for whom I have
[00:40:42] some respect. I'm also disappointed in
[00:40:45] TPUSA
[00:40:47] that continues to platform you. It's not
[00:40:49] about free speech. You could be heard by
[00:40:51] millions regardless. Some unsolicited
[00:40:54] advice. Stop long enough to remember who
[00:40:57] you used to be and what you used to
[00:41:00] stand for.
[00:41:02] So, as expected, knee-jerk, for the
[00:41:06] record, I'm strongly anti-Nazi. Does he
[00:41:08] sound that way to you, America? Oh,
[00:41:09] you're going to hear more. But that's
[00:41:11] hardly the point. This seems like the
[00:41:13] perfect opportunity to rebut what you
[00:41:15] consider evil ideas and to do it to my
[00:41:18] face like a man. I'd think you'd jump at
[00:41:20] the chance assuming you believe your
[00:41:22] positions are defensible. I'm offering
[00:41:25] the marketplace of ideas you often talk
[00:41:27] about. Is it possible you can't really
[00:41:29] defend, for example, what Israel has
[00:41:32] done to civilians in Gaza?
[00:41:34] I said, there you go. You're not feared.
[00:41:37] You're despised.
[00:41:39] Well, you're a coward. And if you change
[00:41:41] your mind, I'm here. Thanks.
[00:41:45] You little bastard. You attacked my my
[00:41:48] stepson.
[00:41:50] You didn't do that face to face, did
[00:41:52] you? You stabbed him in the back while
[00:41:56] he's serving President Trump on his
[00:41:58] second tour
[00:42:00] while he's in safe rooms with ballistic
[00:42:02] missiles passing over his head. You
[00:42:04] little bastard. Nobody's afraid of you.
[00:42:09] I'd rather debate a skunk than you.
[00:42:14] >> Is he good?
[00:42:16] Is everybody okay? Like [laughter] what?
[00:42:20] [gasps] This would be your opportunity
[00:42:22] to reveal Tucker Carlson to the world
[00:42:25] since you say like [laughter]
[00:42:27] that he's a fraud and he's lying and all
[00:42:29] of his stuff. Like why wouldn't you
[00:42:30] readily accept that debate? Why are you
[00:42:32] so focused on canceling him? And lol to
[00:42:34] you saying that you don't want to
[00:42:35] platform Tucker Carlson. Yeah. You know
[00:42:38] what? I decided on this podcast. I'm not
[00:42:40] going to platform Taylor Swift. Yeah.
[00:42:42] I'm not going to platform her. So, if
[00:42:43] she ever wants to come with this
[00:42:44] podcast, I will not platform. Like, are
[00:42:46] you this delus? You cannot be that
[00:42:47] delusional. You cannot be that
[00:42:49] delusional. What are you saying?
[00:42:52] Something is happening. I'm telling you
[00:42:53] guys, this is like a full Zionist crash
[00:42:55] out since Charlie died. And I just feel
[00:42:57] like they sent a very real threat um to
[00:43:00] the little matrix that they established.
[00:43:02] And um so much so that I'm actually
[00:43:05] proud to announce that I have finally
[00:43:07] caught the final Pokemon ball. I've long
[00:43:10] said that in terms of the names I get
[00:43:12] called in the media, I feel like I'm I'm
[00:43:13] playing Pokemon. I just got to catch
[00:43:15] every single ball. When they try to
[00:43:16] cancel you, that's what they do. They
[00:43:18] call you all sorts of things.
[00:43:19] Anti-Semitic. I've been called a
[00:43:21] self-hating black person. I've been
[00:43:23] called a homophobe. I've been called a
[00:43:25] trans phobe. I've been called crazy. Um,
[00:43:28] I've been diagnosed as suffering from
[00:43:30] postpartum
[00:43:32] depression, a postpartum psychosis, a
[00:43:34] postpartum depression, and I didn't
[00:43:37] think there was anything left for me to
[00:43:38] grab, but it's here. It's final. I've
[00:43:40] now won the game. And they are calling
[00:43:43] me a cult leader. Yeah. So, because I
[00:43:46] survived all their attacks and have
[00:43:48] focused my energy on what I wanted to
[00:43:50] build and not on who I wanted to
[00:43:51] destroy, they have decided that that's
[00:43:53] because I'm leading a cult. Now, when I
[00:43:55] think of a cult, I typically think of
[00:43:57] people who say like, "Oh, um, you're
[00:43:59] going to get into heaven if you defend
[00:44:00] BBNet and Yahoo, right? It says it right
[00:44:04] here in the Bible that if you don't
[00:44:05] unfollow Candace Owens, you won't go to
[00:44:07] heaven." That to me is cult language,
[00:44:09] promising people that their souls um are
[00:44:13] are somehow tied to following your
[00:44:15] instructions. I'm just trying to figure
[00:44:16] out who killed Charlie Kirk. Okay,
[00:44:18] that's all. I want to know who killed my
[00:44:20] friend. Well, Carrie Smith, who is the
[00:44:22] host of the podcast Deprogrammed with
[00:44:25] Carrie Smith, says that she was formerly
[00:44:27] of a cult mindset and so she's an expert
[00:44:30] on this and she has now watched 10
[00:44:32] episodes of this show. She watched the
[00:44:36] Charlie Kirk series and she has
[00:44:37] determined that if you are interested in
[00:44:41] what I have to say and what I am
[00:44:43] uncovering about Charlie Kirk's
[00:44:44] assassination, then you you at home are
[00:44:48] in a cult. Take it away, Carrie. I do
[00:44:50] think it's a cult. I think she is
[00:44:54] exhibiting several cult uh tactics.
[00:44:57] She's demonstrating several different
[00:44:59] tactics. I think she's using
[00:45:00] manipulative language and a lot of
[00:45:04] cluster B personality disorder behavior.
[00:45:08] I think that it's easy to observe that,
[00:45:10] but apparently it's it's not easy for
[00:45:13] some people, I guess. And I'm I'm
[00:45:14] assuming maybe that's because they
[00:45:16] haven't been through that before with
[00:45:17] someone. maybe they haven't experienced
[00:45:18] it before. And so this is not an episode
[00:45:23] for people who are in that cult. It's
[00:45:25] not an episode for people who are just
[00:45:28] hanging on every word and following it.
[00:45:30] And uh I've interacted with quite a few
[00:45:32] of you. And I'm not trying to convince
[00:45:34] you. You're obviously not going to be
[00:45:36] happy with this episode and call me all
[00:45:38] kinds of names. I've been over the
[00:45:40] weekend um called every kind of a Jew, a
[00:45:45] Jew lover. Um, I'm getting paid7,000.
[00:45:48] Why don't I go suck blah blah blah? Like
[00:45:50] just terrible,
[00:45:52] very angry things. And um, that's okay.
[00:45:55] This isn't for you. This is an episode
[00:45:58] for normies who are trying to figure out
[00:46:00] what's happening because like a lot of
[00:46:02] us, they used to put a lot of trust in
[00:46:05] Candace Owens and some of these other
[00:46:07] influential figures and they're like,
[00:46:09] "What is happening? What happened to
[00:46:11] her?"
[00:46:13] So, what happened to me was that I I saw
[00:46:15] Charlie the Circuit get shot in the
[00:46:16] throat. But I do want to just bring her
[00:46:17] up for a second without playing it. I I
[00:46:19] can't be the only person that's really
[00:46:20] stressed out by how she's organizing
[00:46:22] those books. Like that is like I've that
[00:46:25] ism that is I don't like the way those
[00:46:27] books are at all. That really is
[00:46:29] stressing me out. So, she's lucky I'm
[00:46:31] not nine months pregnant because this
[00:46:32] would not fly. I would be organizing
[00:46:34] that. Like why the different levels?
[00:46:36] Anyways, she's queen of diagnosing this
[00:46:38] I guess. Cluster B personality. Now what
[00:46:41] I will say is this is if you go back any
[00:46:43] fed operation co whenever you don't
[00:46:46] follow the federal narrative if you
[00:46:48] don't listen to the government they
[00:46:49] always diagnose you with mchavellian
[00:46:53] what do they call it like the dark triad
[00:46:55] traits mchavellian narcissistic and they
[00:46:58] say that you're in a cult if you don't
[00:46:59] wear a mask save lives they did the same
[00:47:01] exact stuff you can go back literally go
[00:47:03] back this is their final stage of we're
[00:47:05] not getting people to behave and listen
[00:47:07] to us so we're going to diagnose them
[00:47:09] and She listed all of the reasons, the
[00:47:11] signs that I was in a cult and about
[00:47:14] seven of them. She, one of them is
[00:47:16] forced teameming. She says that I use
[00:47:18] inclusive language like us, us, we, we,
[00:47:22] we will solve this.
[00:47:24] Again, what is it about they and we?
[00:47:28] What is it about plurality that stresses
[00:47:31] these people out so much? These are just
[00:47:33] words. I do think we are going to solve
[00:47:34] this. I say we because all the
[00:47:37] information I have is thanks to the tip
[00:47:38] slide. So, we're all kind of in this
[00:47:40] together trying to put the pieces
[00:47:41] together to figure out who killed
[00:47:43] Charlie. Um, uh, yeah. She also says
[00:47:46] that I repeat myself constantly, that I
[00:47:49] use sarcasm.
[00:47:51] And I would say that this is sounding a
[00:47:54] lot like my toddlers who could be in a
[00:47:57] cult. Now that she, now that I'm
[00:47:59] thinking about it, she might be right
[00:48:00] because they are laughing. They are
[00:48:03] sarcastic. They definitely have used
[00:48:05] terms like we and us when they address
[00:48:08] me and their father and they repeat
[00:48:10] themselves the whole time. The whole
[00:48:11] time. So, uh, stay tuned. And then my
[00:48:13] favorite part is that she says like we
[00:48:15] have a phrase and it's if you don't know
[00:48:17] no like we don't know no, but we know.
[00:48:20] And she says that that that's somehow
[00:48:23] cult. I don't know. It's a part of the
[00:48:24] cult stuff. So, I guess I'm the cult of
[00:48:27] telling you to think for yourself and to
[00:48:29] trust your gut. And if something seems
[00:48:31] like it's wrong, it's because it
[00:48:32] probably is wrong. and the government
[00:48:33] telling you to violate that to ignore
[00:48:36] your sense your senses uh to believe
[00:48:39] something that is just truly
[00:48:40] unbelievable like a 306 got stopped by
[00:48:44] Charlie's neck because miracle. Yeah,
[00:48:46] trust yourself. That's that is kind of
[00:48:48] the goal here is to let people stop
[00:48:52] committing to government group think
[00:48:54] which is how they control us all and
[00:48:55] also make us hate each other. It is just
[00:48:57] a fact that the greatest threat to
[00:48:59] governments and what this is really
[00:49:00] about I is the left and the right coming
[00:49:02] together. Right? This is like the thing
[00:49:04] that they have to prevent. And this is
[00:49:05] why I am now number one and who they are
[00:49:08] attacking. I'm talking about the
[00:49:09] military-industrial complex which has
[00:49:11] been ruling our nation for a very long
[00:49:12] time. I'm encouraging people to read
[00:49:14] books to learn about the history of
[00:49:16] psychology and why they do these sorts
[00:49:18] of things like diagnose you. I'm telling
[00:49:20] people that they should homeschool their
[00:49:21] kids, right? So they don't end up like
[00:49:23] us. uh and when I say like us committed
[00:49:25] to one side or the other convinced that
[00:49:27] we have things figured out when we're
[00:49:28] shouting at each other and not looking
[00:49:29] at the real power apparatus that sits
[00:49:31] behind. So to that extent I do
[00:49:34] understand why Tucker and I have become
[00:49:37] threat number one showing that you can
[00:49:39] survive outside of their matrix not
[00:49:41] taking money not taking the money that
[00:49:43] makes you fearful to speak out and
[00:49:46] surviving it. But beyond that, yeah, no,
[00:49:49] I really would not say um that we are
[00:49:52] leading a cult, but we're not getting
[00:49:53] rid of this. First off, we don't know.
[00:49:55] No, but we know. Okay. And it's a fact.
[00:49:57] And we are going to solve the Charlie
[00:49:58] Kirk murder. So, we'll take a quick
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[00:52:17] All right, top comment from Friday's
[00:52:20] episode. Think before you type wrote,
[00:52:22] Ben Shapiro was all for Candace Owens,
[00:52:24] keeping it real with the black community
[00:52:26] until she started keeping it real with
[00:52:27] Israel.
[00:52:29] And that, my friend, is a fact. And
[00:52:31] here's the thing. I don't care who you
[00:52:33] are. I'm an equal opportunity offender.
[00:52:35] If you're being stupid and what you're
[00:52:37] saying doesn't make sense, I'm going to
[00:52:39] call it out. Uh whether you're there's
[00:52:41] nothing that's going to protect you.
[00:52:42] Being a woman is not going to protect
[00:52:43] you. Being black, being Jewish, none of
[00:52:45] it's it's just not going to work if
[00:52:46] you're going to use identity politics.
[00:52:48] And right now, it is just the case that
[00:52:51] Zionists are being a little cray cray. A
[00:52:53] lot of cray cray, very cray cray and
[00:52:54] kind of dangerous. Um also, I want to
[00:52:57] tell you, by the way, one of the things
[00:52:59] that she mentioned as sign of a cult was
[00:53:01] me reading comments at the end.
[00:53:02] Obviously, you guys pay for me to read
[00:53:04] these comments and you guys compliment
[00:53:05] me, which is very kind. And so, she said
[00:53:08] that me reading your comments is a cult
[00:53:11] leader tactic. So, but I'm going to keep
[00:53:12] reading these comments. US flag pole guy
[00:53:15] writes, "We love you, Candace. We pray
[00:53:16] for you and your family and for truth.
[00:53:18] Fight, fight, fight. Thank you so much
[00:53:20] for that donation." Stephanie writes,
[00:53:21] "Charlie knew that you would have the
[00:53:23] strength of iron against their fighting
[00:53:24] words when the battleground was set. You
[00:53:26] are truly armor bearer. Be my David."
[00:53:29] Yeah, they've cited that as well. And I
[00:53:31] was like, I just shared Charlie's
[00:53:32] messages and he knew he was going to
[00:53:34] die. And that is actually in retrospect
[00:53:36] incredibly compelling and I wish I had
[00:53:40] um I guess there's nothing else I
[00:53:41] there's nothing I could have done if if
[00:53:42] if there's really nothing I could have
[00:53:44] done. I have to remind myself of that.
[00:53:46] Zamit writes, "Candice number one
[00:53:47] worldwide secret sauce. She speaks to
[00:53:50] us, not at us." Yeah, we're just trying
[00:53:53] to figure out what's going on and we
[00:53:54] know that what they're telling us is
[00:53:56] going on is definitely not what's going
[00:53:57] on. And my requirement is pretty easy.
[00:54:00] Are you interested? They're asking you
[00:54:03] to be an idiot. Just be an idiot. Just
[00:54:05] it's just this narrative regarding
[00:54:07] Charlie Kirk is just I've never seen
[00:54:11] any situation where they didn't present
[00:54:14] a shred of proof for their narrative.
[00:54:17] Not a shred of proof. They won't show us
[00:54:19] a clear picture of Tyler Robinson on
[00:54:22] that day despite all the cameras. That
[00:54:23] would do a lot. If they just dropped one
[00:54:25] clear image, right, we would be like,
[00:54:28] "Oh, at least he was on campus." Like,
[00:54:30] "At least we can get there." Nothing.
[00:54:32] They're just like, "Trust us 10,000%
[00:54:36] and we're going to make the physics.
[00:54:38] It's totally everything's impossible,
[00:54:40] but just trust us. We're asking for such
[00:54:43] little." If you actually go back and
[00:54:45] appreciate how the story has unfolded,
[00:54:47] we are basically saying we would have
[00:54:49] taken the bare minimum and maybe
[00:54:51] accepted some of this narrative. They're
[00:54:53] giving us nothing and telling us to
[00:54:54] swallow it whole. We just can't do that.
[00:54:56] Okay, we just cannot do that. Mickey
[00:54:59] Shaw writes, "We love you, Candace."
[00:55:00] Well, you know what? Go tell that to
[00:55:02] cult lady. She's going to be really
[00:55:03] upset about that. Uh Aries girl writes,
[00:55:06] "Seven seven mill 7 million. Oh, seven
[00:55:09] mountain mandate you're referring to.
[00:55:10] Makes me think of Satan tempting Christ
[00:55:12] and the quote from Elder Ephraim. Uh the
[00:55:15] person who limits his mind to the to the
[00:55:17] name of Christ, the hour of death, the
[00:55:19] beauty of paradise and the love of God
[00:55:20] will purge it of every demonic
[00:55:22] contemplation. Um
[00:55:25] the note here is Ephraim. Ephraim was a
[00:55:28] revered Greek Orthodox hero monk. Higher
[00:55:31] monk. Does that say higher monk?
[00:55:35] Yeah, I'm not that familiar with that
[00:55:36] either. In the Greek Orthodox arch
[00:55:38] dascese of America. Okay, that's very
[00:55:41] interesting. What I will say is it's
[00:55:43] giving cults to say you um you can
[00:55:45] infiltrate in the name of the Lord and
[00:55:48] which means be deceptive right you can
[00:55:50] be deceptive in the name of the Lord it
[00:55:53] doesn't make me feel good knowing that
[00:55:55] he was putting money into turning point
[00:55:58] USA faith and like I said we are going
[00:55:59] to have some explosive revelations on
[00:56:02] Wednesday that's going to make you
[00:56:03] rethink everything and turning point
[00:56:06] faith keeps coming up in this
[00:56:07] investigation I think money was being
[00:56:09] interjected and I don't think I think
[00:56:11] when Charlie raised his head and
[00:56:13] realized something was wrong and that's
[00:56:14] why he established Doge. Um, he made
[00:56:18] some real enemies. I I Charlie was too
[00:56:20] brilliant to just ask a question. He
[00:56:23] would have arrived at the answer very
[00:56:25] quickly. He learned very quickly. He
[00:56:27] processed information very quickly. And
[00:56:29] to the extent that he was paying
[00:56:31] attention, he would have found out. That
[00:56:33] is um that's just a fact. I it is not a
[00:56:36] small thing. They tried to reduce it.
[00:56:38] It's not a small thing that Charlie
[00:56:41] suddenly was wondering about where the
[00:56:43] money was coming from and where it was
[00:56:44] going to. On that note, later on this
[00:56:47] week, we'll be have having a guest join
[00:56:48] us that will speak on Friday about
[00:56:51] Turning Point's finances. And that's
[00:56:52] going to paint a big picture. Uh, it's
[00:56:55] going to make a lot of sense why some
[00:56:56] people are freaking out about this
[00:56:58] investigation, pretending to be his
[00:56:59] friend, coming up with ridiculously
[00:57:01] stupid um conclusions about how I
[00:57:04] betrayed him or I lied when I said I
[00:57:07] didn't give a single interview uh
[00:57:08] regarding Charlie. I was in a true stage
[00:57:11] of grief. I didn't offer a single
[00:57:12] interview. Well, Alex Clark figured out
[00:57:14] she rumbled me that I spoke to CNN in a
[00:57:19] I had already scheduled CNN for my book
[00:57:21] promo and we kept the interview on
[00:57:24] September 27th or something and she's
[00:57:25] like, "Well, she lied. She spoke to CNN.
[00:57:28] That interview was supposed to be
[00:57:29] exclusively about my book book
[00:57:32] promotion, uh, my background, what
[00:57:34] brought me to this moment." And
[00:57:36] actually, Elle Reeves did not even get
[00:57:39] to my book at all. She didn't mention my
[00:57:41] book at all, which is quite stunning in
[00:57:43] in retrospect by the end. Uh because she
[00:57:46] was trying to hammer me, not on the
[00:57:48] Charlie stuff, but she was trying to
[00:57:49] hammer me so much on
[00:57:52] Zionism, you know, Israel is kind of
[00:57:54] what she wanted to speak about. And then
[00:57:56] Breijit Mcronone is what she wanted to
[00:57:57] speak about. Anyways, um speaking of
[00:58:00] this book, I loved seeing this online.
[00:58:02] Make him a sandwich. Somebody in Serbia
[00:58:04] got the book and her husband fake signed
[00:58:06] it. He forged my signature and wrote to
[00:58:11] her. Um, I can't read her name. Dear
[00:58:13] Kiki, please make me a sandwich. And I
[00:58:17] can't read that something something. And
[00:58:19] then he signs it himself. He signs it
[00:58:21] XOXO Candace. I love this idea of men
[00:58:24] fake signing my book to try to get their
[00:58:26] wives to do stuff. So, I had to pull
[00:58:27] that out. That's all the way from
[00:58:28] Belgrade, Serbia. I reached out to her.
[00:58:30] We're now going to send her a free
[00:58:31] signed copy because it made me giggle so
[00:58:33] much this morning. And if you guys would
[00:58:34] like to get your copy, you can go to
[00:58:36] make him a sandwichand.com.
[00:58:39] Uh, this book is doing fantastic and
[00:58:40] we're really excited about that. So, um,
[00:58:42] yeah. What else do I have for you guys?
[00:58:44] Thank you for supporting me. Twitter is
[00:58:46] crazy. X is crazy. I don't know why, but
[00:58:48] there's a Zionist picture that is
[00:58:51] emerging in this story. It's a faith
[00:58:53] picture. Be wary of the influencers who
[00:58:56] are trying to struggle session you into
[00:58:58] believing that actually recognizing that
[00:59:02] what they are telling us makes virtually
[00:59:05] zero sense is somehow a sin.
[00:59:09] I would say this isn't an agatha
[00:59:11] Christie novel. Real life is actually
[00:59:13] better than an Agatha Christie novel. Um
[00:59:16] I'm realizing there is so much
[00:59:17] corruption that is happening and uh we
[00:59:20] are now in a time of tremendous
[00:59:22] revelation. So, if you are working for
[00:59:26] the side of darkness, you are probably
[00:59:28] right about now on notice. We'll see you
[00:59:30] guys on Wednesday.
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