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[00:02:44] Well, thank you very much. It's an honor [00:02:45] to have a friend of mine here, Victor [00:02:47] Orabond, the prime minister of Hungary. [00:02:50] And he's done a fantastic job. He's a a [00:02:54] very powerful man within his country, [00:02:56] but he's also beloved. They love Victor [00:03:00] and uh people that know him do. He's run [00:03:03] a really great country and he's got no [00:03:06] crime. He's got no problems like some [00:03:08] countries do, but uh probably has a [00:03:10] couple of things that I don't know [00:03:11] about, maybe that I don't want to know [00:03:13] about, but he's a very special person. [00:03:15] I've known him for a long time. We're [00:03:18] going to be talking trade. We're going [00:03:19] to be talking uh a little bit of Russia [00:03:22] Ukraine. We'll be talking about energy [00:03:23] and energy prices. We have energy down [00:03:26] to a pretty low point right now in the [00:03:28] United States. We're drilling, drill [00:03:30] baby drill we call it, but energy costs [00:03:32] are very low. Our general costs are very [00:03:34] low. And I just saw that Walmart came [00:03:37] out with a statement last night. They've [00:03:38] done it for many years. That [00:03:40] Thanksgiving this year will cost 25% [00:03:43] less than Thanksgiving last year under [00:03:46] Sleepy Joe Biden. So that's a big [00:03:49] difference. That's a big difference. 25% [00:03:51] less Thanksgiving. And I think that's a [00:03:54] very good chart. they uh include [00:03:55] everything everything that you need for [00:03:58] Thanksgiving. So, it's 25% less this [00:04:00] year than it was last year. And that's [00:04:02] true. That's emblematic of uh of the [00:04:05] rest of prices. Uh energy prices are way [00:04:08] down from what they were last year. Uh [00:04:11] inflation is almost non-existent. We [00:04:13] have inflation down to a very low [00:04:15] number, whereas uh Biden, as you know, [00:04:17] is the worst inflation in the history of [00:04:19] our country. So, we're doing very well. [00:04:22] We have a shutdown as you probably know [00:04:24] because the Democrats have gone they're [00:04:26] they're crazy. They're crazy but they [00:04:28] don't care if they hurt the country. But [00:04:30] we've uh approved it 14 times. We've [00:04:32] approved a opening up 14 times and they [00:04:36] keep rejecting it. And uh I guess maybe [00:04:39] they will again. Let's see what happens. [00:04:41] Uh they want to have a lot of bad things [00:04:43] happened bad things for our country. [00:04:45] We're not going to give $1.5 trillion [00:04:48] dollars to people that came into our [00:04:49] country illegally. we're not going to do [00:04:50] it. Uh to people came from prisons. They [00:04:53] came from mental institutions. They're [00:04:55] drug dealers. They want to give them [00:04:58] medical care, [00:05:00] $1.5 trillion. Uh and we're not going to [00:05:03] do other things that they're requesting [00:05:05] also. So, uh I just want to welcome this [00:05:08] uh really good person. I know him very [00:05:12] well. He's a good person and he's a [00:05:14] great leader and he's loved in his [00:05:15] country. And Victor, would you like to [00:05:16] say a few words? [00:05:18] >> Thank you very much, President. [00:05:19] >> Thank you. First of all, may I say that [00:05:22] uh thank you very much for the [00:05:23] invitation. Uh it's good to see you [00:05:27] president back to the White House. Uh [00:05:30] and good to be back after six years away [00:05:32] again to see you here. [00:05:34] >> Yeah. [00:05:34] >> As we have met last time. Um the reason [00:05:37] why we are here to open a new chapter [00:05:40] between the bilateral relation of the [00:05:42] United States and Hungary basically [00:05:44] because during the democrat [00:05:45] administration everything was ruined. So [00:05:47] after your leaving president everything [00:05:49] was basically blocked, ruined, [00:05:51] cancelled, a lot of harm done uh by the [00:05:54] previous uh administration. Uh in the [00:05:57] last 10 months president what you have [00:05:59] done we are very much grateful for that. [00:06:01] You restored uh the old level of the [00:06:04] relationship. You improved uh the [00:06:07] bilateral relation. Uh you repair what [00:06:10] was done uh badly by the previous [00:06:12] administration. So now we are in quite a [00:06:14] good position to open up a new chapter. [00:06:16] let's say a golden age between United [00:06:18] States and Hungary and we have plenty of [00:06:21] suggestions of for today economic [00:06:23] cooperation, military cooperation and [00:06:25] political cooperation and the main issue [00:06:27] probably president you know we are [00:06:29] neighboring uh Ukraine sure [00:06:31] >> which is in war uh it's most important [00:06:34] issue for us and we would like to [00:06:35] discuss with you how we can contribute [00:06:38] to help you in your peace efforts that's [00:06:40] why we [00:06:41] >> and you've taken a lot of Ukrainians [00:06:42] that needed your help and you've taken a [00:06:45] lot of them in your country and [00:06:47] everybody appreciates that. [00:06:48] >> Thank you very much. We we do our best. [00:06:50] >> Thank you very much. Any questions, [00:06:52] please? [00:06:58] >> Thank you, Mr. President. [00:07:00] >> Mr. Orban has requested an exemption as [00:07:04] it relates to oil that is coming from [00:07:07] Russia. Is that something that you are [00:07:09] prepared to do? And may I ask Mr. Orban [00:07:12] a question in regards to that very [00:07:14] issue? Sure. Uh we're looking at it [00:07:16] because it's very difficult for him to [00:07:18] get uh the oil and gas from other areas. [00:07:22] As you know, they don't have uh they [00:07:23] don't have the advantage of having sea. [00:07:25] It's a great country. It's a big [00:07:26] country, but they don't have sea. They [00:07:28] don't have the ports. And so they have a [00:07:31] difficult problem. There's another [00:07:33] country that has that same problem, by [00:07:35] the way. But when you look at what's [00:07:37] happened with Europe, many of those [00:07:38] countries, they don't have those [00:07:40] problems. and they buy a lot of oil and [00:07:42] gas from Russia and as they know I'm [00:07:45] very disturbed by that because we're [00:07:46] helping them and they're going and [00:07:48] buying oil and gas from Russia. So that [00:07:50] question could be really asked maybe [00:07:52] more accurately if you talked about many [00:07:55] European countries, not Hungary [00:07:57] necessarily because Hungary is is in a [00:08:00] different position, but many European [00:08:02] countries are buying oil and gas from [00:08:04] Russia and they have been for years and [00:08:07] I say what's that all about? Right. [00:08:09] Thank you. Yeah. [00:08:12] >> So that will be one of the issue for [00:08:14] today uh to explain clearly what would [00:08:16] be the consequences for the Hungarian [00:08:18] people and for the Hungarian economy not [00:08:21] to get oil and gas from Russia because [00:08:23] we are supplied by pipelines. Pipeline [00:08:25] is not an ideological political issue. [00:08:27] It's a physical reality because we don't [00:08:29] have support exactly as the president [00:08:32] explained to you. So we will negotiate [00:08:34] on that point. It's vital for us anyway. [00:08:36] >> Mr. Orban, there are two pipelines as I [00:08:38] understand it. There's a pipeline from [00:08:40] Ukraine and there's a pipeline from [00:08:41] Croatia. And my understanding is that [00:08:44] the pipeline from Croatia can provide [00:08:46] all of Hungary's energy needs. As a [00:08:50] result, why would you need an exemption [00:08:52] if that's the case? [00:08:53] >> So when we discuss that issue, you [00:08:55] should separate the gas and the oil. On [00:08:57] the gas issue, which is very important [00:08:59] for us, 90% of the Hungarian households [00:09:02] based on heating system based on gas. Uh [00:09:05] so so we have only one uh pipeline [00:09:09] delivering gas to Hungary which is the [00:09:11] main uh pipeline the Turkish one. Uh [00:09:15] what we got from uh Croatia is a very [00:09:17] small volume supplementary gas pipeline. [00:09:20] Okay that's gas. Oil is another issue. [00:09:23] So oil is coming from the DUBA pipeline [00:09:25] which is the main supply and that is the [00:09:27] Croatian one which is the uh the [00:09:30] secondary and supplementary pipeline. We [00:09:33] would like to convince the Croatian [00:09:35] government to enlarge it and make it [00:09:37] possible to deliver more. Under these [00:09:39] circumstances, it cannot be the main [00:09:41] pipeline. It's just supplementary. But [00:09:44] later on with some big investments, it [00:09:46] could serve better the interest of [00:09:47] Hungary. [00:09:49] >> Yes, please. [00:09:53] Many [00:09:56] many people see this mission not just as [00:09:59] an encounter between countries but as [00:10:02] the symbol of the strengthening of the [00:10:05] new conservative alliance [00:10:09] interpretation and how do you see the [00:10:12] future of the light of like [00:10:16] stand up to pro bureaucracy and the [00:10:18] globalist agenda. [00:10:21] Are you from Hungary? Yes, I am. [00:10:22] >> I figured uh the fact is that he's a [00:10:25] great leader and he's respected all [00:10:28] over. Not necessarily liked by some of [00:10:30] the leaders, but you know, those leaders [00:10:32] have proven to be wrong. If you look at [00:10:34] his stance on immigration and other [00:10:36] things, you know, if you look at Europe, [00:10:38] they've made tremendous mistakes on [00:10:40] immigration. It's really hurting them [00:10:42] very badly. He has not made a mistake on [00:10:44] immigration. So, uh he's respected by [00:10:47] everybody. He's liked by some. [snorts] [00:10:50] And I can tell you I like and respect. [00:10:52] I'm a double. I like and respect him. [00:10:54] And that's the way uh Hungary is being [00:10:56] led. They're being led properly. And [00:10:59] that's why he's going to be very [00:11:00] successful in his upcoming election. [00:11:06] >> May I have a comment? [00:11:07] >> May I have a comment on that? You know, [00:11:09] language is important because the [00:11:11] Anglo-Saxon uh terminology is different [00:11:13] from the European one. So to use [00:11:15] categories can create some [00:11:17] misunderstanding. So uh I would like to [00:11:19] be clear as much as we can. We are the [00:11:22] only uh only government uh in Europe [00:11:26] which consider itself as a modern [00:11:28] Christian government. All the other [00:11:29] governments in Europe are basically [00:11:31] liberal leftist governments. So we try [00:11:33] to do something from 2010 which is [00:11:36] different from what the others are doing [00:11:38] even at the philosophical level and the [00:11:40] level of practice as well as just the [00:11:42] president described it like migration. [00:11:44] So we are kind of a a special island of [00:11:48] difference in a liberal ocean in Europe [00:11:51] and we considered ourselves as a modern [00:11:53] Christian government. That's that's the [00:11:55] proper category to describe what we are [00:11:57] doing [00:11:58] >> to both of you to both of you to both of [00:12:02] you. [00:12:04] >> We're talking but uh we'll report on [00:12:07] that later. Meetings with Putin. We were [00:12:10] talking about that with Victor. [00:12:12] understands Putin and knows him very [00:12:13] well. And uh I feel that I mean I'm [00:12:17] going to let you say what you think, but [00:12:20] I think that uh Victor feels we're going [00:12:22] to get that war ended in the not too [00:12:24] distant future. Victor, do you want to [00:12:26] talk about that? [00:12:27] >> I I'm I'm strongly convinced. So the [00:12:29] question is whether we Westerners are [00:12:31] unified or not. The problem is that the [00:12:34] president has huge peace efforts which [00:12:36] are just splendid and and very positive [00:12:39] for the European continent and all the [00:12:41] peoples of the of of Europe. But at the [00:12:44] same time, we are not unified because [00:12:46] Brussels and the Europeans has a [00:12:48] different approach to the war. So the [00:12:50] only pro peace government is the United [00:12:52] States government and the small Hungary [00:12:54] in Europe. Anyway, all the other [00:12:55] governments prefer to continue the war [00:12:58] because many of them think that Ukraine [00:13:00] can win on on the on the front line [00:13:03] which is a misunderstanding of the [00:13:04] situation. So So it's a complicated [00:13:06] issue. We will discuss it. It's it [00:13:08] requests not just two minutes to respond [00:13:10] to your question but rather an hour [00:13:12] lecture sorry not to continue more [00:13:14] >> to both of you to both of you. [00:13:16] >> So you would say that [00:13:18] >> Ukraine cannot win that war. [00:13:21] >> You know miracle can happen. [00:13:23] Yeah, that's right. Mr. President, [00:13:29] >> thank you, Mr. President. What is your [00:13:30] message to the EU because about Hungary [00:13:34] and the EU want to impose their war [00:13:37] policies on Hungary? What is your [00:13:39] message? [00:13:40] >> Well, I think they should respect uh [00:13:43] Hungary and respect this leader very [00:13:45] very strongly because he's been right on [00:13:47] immigration. Look what's happened to [00:13:49] Europe with the immigration. And they [00:13:51] have people flooding Europe all over the [00:13:53] place and it's hurting it. It's uh the [00:13:55] crime rates are way up. A lot of bad [00:13:57] things are happening. He his crime rates [00:13:59] are very low. The they're the same as [00:14:02] they always were, which is very little [00:14:04] crime. Uh because he's kept uh he's kept [00:14:07] it the way it should be. Uh Europe, I [00:14:10] mean, I don't want to go into individual [00:14:11] countries. They're all friends of mine. [00:14:13] everyone as you know in the uh in NATO [00:14:15] they voted to go from 2% to 5% and you [00:14:18] know that nobody thought that was [00:14:20] possible and we had just about almost [00:14:22] other than Spain a unanimous vote. Um no [00:14:26] I think that uh [00:14:29] I think they respect him a lot. They [00:14:31] don't agree with him but actually [00:14:33] inwardly I think they probably do agree [00:14:35] what he he was right on immigration. [00:14:38] They were wrong. They are flooding [00:14:40] Europe with people from all over the [00:14:42] world and Europe is becoming a different [00:14:44] place. And I tell the leaders all the [00:14:46] time, you better stop or you're not [00:14:48] going to have Europe anymore. It's a [00:14:49] very dangerous thing they're doing. [00:14:53] >> Wait, may I have a reflection on that? [00:14:55] So on migration issue, just for [00:14:57] clarification, in Hungary, the number of [00:15:00] illegal migration is like that zero. [00:15:04] Zero. Because we have a crystal clear [00:15:06] system. If somebody would like to come [00:15:08] to Hungary, first he should ask for [00:15:10] that. If you give the permission, they [00:15:13] can step in. Nobody can step on the [00:15:15] territory of Hungary without giving [00:15:17] having a permission from the Hungarian [00:15:19] authorities. This is the regulation. [00:15:21] Simple, well working. What is the [00:15:23] consequence of that? We are under [00:15:25] sanctions, financial sanctions of [00:15:27] European Union because we don't let the [00:15:29] illegal migrations to come to Hungary [00:15:32] and uh to the European Union as well. So [00:15:34] we have to pay, just to inform you, we [00:15:36] have to pay every day€1 million euro as [00:15:40] a punishment to the Brazilian budget [00:15:43] because we stopped the migrants. This is [00:15:45] the absurd world we are living now in [00:15:46] Europe. [00:15:47] >> Mr. [00:15:53] Thank you. Um I'd like to ask whether [00:15:55] what do you think what do you believe um [00:15:57] after this meeting can you have maybe or [00:16:00] the European European Union will have [00:16:03] another opinion about um you know just [00:16:05] because of this penalty another opinion [00:16:07] about Hungary because of the immigration [00:16:10] and because all this kind of politics [00:16:12] which is not that strictly as the [00:16:14] European Union direct. What do you [00:16:16] believe? [00:16:16] >> Yeah. Where are you from? [00:16:17] >> I'm from Hungary. [00:16:18] >> Okay. Uh, I do have that conversation [00:16:22] with them and I I respect and like them. [00:16:24] You know, they're all friends of mine. I [00:16:25] think pretty much every single leader in [00:16:27] Europe is a friend of mine. We get along [00:16:29] really well. They've done everything [00:16:31] I've asked them to do with NATO, etc. [00:16:34] The only thing they continue to do is [00:16:36] buy oil from Russia. That's not too [00:16:38] good. But I told them they should [00:16:40] respect this man. They can also learn [00:16:42] from Victor. Victor has had a very hard [00:16:46] stance on more than anything else uh [00:16:49] immigration or even illegal immigration. [00:16:52] He literally has accepted no one over [00:16:55] the years. Uh think of how much greater [00:16:58] these countries would be if they didn't [00:17:00] have the tremendous crime that has come [00:17:02] in with the immigration. [00:17:04] People just flowing into Europe. They've [00:17:06] got to stop it. And not only stop it, [00:17:08] they have to reverse it. They have to [00:17:10] get them out. We've done that here. We [00:17:12] have zero people coming in now. the [00:17:14] borders are closed. We take people, but [00:17:16] we take them legally, but we've done it [00:17:18] very strongly. And we're we're moving uh [00:17:20] hundreds of thousands, millions of [00:17:22] people out. We had uh of the 20 million [00:17:26] people, 25 million. Nobody knows even [00:17:28] what the number is. They they never [00:17:29] knew. Biden had no idea. He wasn't he [00:17:31] had no idea. I don't believe he had any [00:17:33] idea what was happening because he [00:17:35] wasn't about open borders. But we had [00:17:37] open borders and we had millions of [00:17:39] people come in and they were coming in [00:17:41] from jails. They were coming in from [00:17:43] mental institutions. They were coming in [00:17:45] as drug dealers. We had 11,888 [00:17:49] murderers. [00:17:51] Half of them committed more than one [00:17:53] murder. We're getting them all out. [00:17:55] We're getting them out. He doesn't have [00:17:57] that problem. But Europe does have that [00:17:59] problem. Other parts of Europe have that [00:18:01] problem. So, uh, you know, I tell them [00:18:05] all the time, we I'm I stick up for [00:18:08] Victor Auburn. Not a lot of people do [00:18:10] because they're in many cases they're [00:18:12] jealous. They wish they did what he did. [00:18:15] They would have no problems if they did [00:18:17] did what he did. And I have a bigger [00:18:19] heart than anybody. But you know they [00:18:21] they've destroyed some of those [00:18:23] countries. Some of those countries had [00:18:25] no crime 10 years ago and now they have [00:18:28] quite a bit of crime. And uh I would say [00:18:31] that I I don't know anything about your [00:18:33] crime levels, but I would imagine [00:18:34] they're very low. [00:18:36] >> Huh? [00:18:36] >> Not too high, right? No, no, no. It's [00:18:38] well done. [00:18:39] >> All of the best in you. [00:18:40] >> I had a feeling [00:18:43] sorry may I have one? [00:18:45] >> Sure, please. [00:18:46] >> No, no, no, no. Just just just to just a [00:18:48] clarification as well. I'm not here to [00:18:50] to ask President Trump to manage my [00:18:54] conflicts or our conflicts with the [00:18:55] European Union. This is our matter. So, [00:18:58] we will do it. What we need is a golden [00:19:00] age to open a golden age of the United [00:19:03] States Hungarian relationship. That's [00:19:05] the biggest hub we can get from United [00:19:07] States [00:19:07] >> and maybe Europe too. You know here it's [00:19:10] gonna get more difficult. [00:19:12] >> So inside the European Union, we will [00:19:14] manage all of our affairs uh to be the [00:19:18] most possible humble guy. Yeah. But I'm [00:19:20] the longest serving prime minister of [00:19:22] Europe. I survived all the prime [00:19:24] ministers who attacked us and I'm sure [00:19:26] we will survive next years as well. So [00:19:28] we will manage our conflict [00:19:30] successfully. [00:19:31] >> Mr. President, [00:19:33] Mr. President, one question for the [00:19:36] prime minister. Speaking of Europe, last [00:19:38] month you said that you would not [00:19:40] withdraw US troops from from Europe. Yet [00:19:43] few weeks later, the Pentagon announced [00:19:47] uh decided to withdraw significant [00:19:49] number of troops from Romania. So, have [00:19:52] you changed your mind or the Pentagon [00:19:55] ignored your assurance? [00:19:57] >> No, they don't ignore anything that I [00:19:59] say. What they do do is they we make [00:20:02] changes. We move, it's the same number, [00:20:04] total number, but we move people around. [00:20:06] I happen to like uh the Romanian people. [00:20:08] I think they're great people. And uh [00:20:11] Pete, you may want to suggest something [00:20:13] right there, please. [00:20:14] >> Absolutely. No, nothing was [00:20:15] uncoordinated with the White House. It's [00:20:17] all part of the view that we have of [00:20:19] Europe. And there will remain troops in [00:20:21] Romania, but there's some change in how [00:20:23] we rotate and how many we rotate. [00:20:24] >> And the relationship with Romania is [00:20:26] very good, right? [00:20:27] >> Very good. And we've coordinated all [00:20:28] this with Secretary General Ruta, with [00:20:31] throughout Yukon, throughout our allies. [00:20:33] Everyone was notified in in advance. [00:20:35] >> The relationship with Romania is very [00:20:37] good. The relationship with Europe is [00:20:39] very good. I disagree with what Europe [00:20:42] is doing having to do with immigration, [00:20:44] but I agree with them and many other [00:20:45] subjects. We just signed the biggest [00:20:47] trade deal ever made with Europe, $950 [00:20:51] billion dollars. We were able to do it [00:20:53] because of tariffs. It was a deal that [00:20:55] was good, very good, but we had a very [00:20:58] unfair deal. We were treated very badly [00:21:00] before I came into office. But we uh we [00:21:04] just signed. It's it's the single [00:21:05] biggest trade deal ever signed. So, we [00:21:07] have a very good relationship with [00:21:09] Europe. Yeah. [00:21:13] What is the main dispute with the [00:21:15] Russians which prevent the Budapest [00:21:18] summit with Putin [00:21:21] from [00:21:21] >> uh the basic dispute is they just don't [00:21:24] want to stop yet and uh I think they [00:21:28] will. I think that's it's taken a big [00:21:30] toll on Russia, big toll on both [00:21:32] countries obviously, but it's taken a [00:21:34] big toll. They're losing 7,000 soldiers [00:21:37] a week. That's a big toll. and uh [00:21:39] between the two of them divided you know [00:21:42] with Russia losing more soldiers [00:21:44] actually but uh they're both losing a [00:21:46] lot of people and that's the primary [00:21:48] thing that with me it's not economic [00:21:50] it's not money in fact we don't spend [00:21:53] any money we we send it to NATO they pay [00:21:55] us for our missiles and for our military [00:21:57] and everything else we don't it's not a [00:21:59] question of money it was with Biden he [00:22:00] spent $350 billion he got nothing for it [00:22:04] uh the war would have never happened if [00:22:06] I were president the war would have [00:22:07] never happened I think you would agree [00:22:09] with that this war would never have [00:22:11] happened if I were president. It's [00:22:12] stupid that it happened, but it did [00:22:14] happen. I inherited the war and I think [00:22:17] we're going to get it ended not too [00:22:19] distant future, [00:22:21] please. [00:22:22] >> Well, no question that uh if that time [00:22:26] the name of the United States president [00:22:28] would have been Donald Trump, there [00:22:29] would be no war between Ukraine and [00:22:31] Russia. That's clear. But but what we [00:22:33] are speaking about here is more than [00:22:35] that. Because without the pressure [00:22:37] coming from the United States [00:22:39] government, I'm speaking 2022. The [00:22:42] Europeans would not take that hardline [00:22:44] what they have today on the war. [00:22:46] Remember that big countries of Europe [00:22:48] rejected to be involved more than just [00:22:50] sending some, you know, humanitarian [00:22:52] issues. So the pressure coming from the [00:22:54] United States to be more pro-war in [00:22:57] Europe. So that's that's that's the fact [00:22:59] of the history anyway. So we have to [00:23:02] restore something which was which was [00:23:04] ruined and and and created from here and [00:23:06] that's the reason why I'm I'm I [00:23:08] understand absolutely the the devotion [00:23:10] of the president now to to do everything [00:23:12] to stop the war because that would be [00:23:14] not that that deep without the previous [00:23:17] pressure previous government pressure [00:23:19] from here. So so I the the reason why [00:23:21] I'm here to be as much as helpful I can [00:23:25] uh to contribute to the peace efforts of [00:23:27] the president because that was a [00:23:28] enormous mistake what we have done. I [00:23:30] mean the western world several years ago [00:23:32] and we have to stop it and it's come [00:23:34] responsible. [00:23:35] >> Biden actually pushed for that war to [00:23:37] happen. Okay, if you can believe it. [00:23:38] Nobody can believe it, but it's one of [00:23:40] those things. And now look what [00:23:41] happened. Look what's happened to [00:23:43] Ukraine. It's a much smaller country. A [00:23:45] lot of people are dead. Uh you take a [00:23:47] look at what it's a whole different [00:23:49] world over there. And Russia has not [00:23:52] been helped very much by that war [00:23:54] either. They lost a tremendous number of [00:23:56] soldiers and people. Uh and you know [00:24:00] look that war should have been a oneweek [00:24:02] war I don't know why it's taken this is [00:24:04] four years should have been one week [00:24:06] should have been over with but it would [00:24:07] have never started should have never [00:24:09] started and I would have solved the [00:24:11] problem without giving up anything [00:24:13] Ukraine would have remained as is so [00:24:16] there were tremendous mistakes long [00:24:17] before I got there I inherited that mess [00:24:20] and we're getting it solved along with [00:24:21] the eight wars that we've already ended [00:24:27] or minister or [00:24:28] >> Mr. President, [00:24:29] >> what what is our interest cultivating [00:24:32] better relations with EU EU leader or or [00:24:36] >> I think I can do both. I mean there's no [00:24:38] reason why I can't. I get along well [00:24:39] with the European nations. [00:24:41] >> He still member of European Union, so [00:24:42] it's easy. [00:24:43] >> Yeah. And by the way, he's a member in [00:24:45] good standing, I guess. Although they [00:24:46] penalize him everywhere, but he's a [00:24:49] member in good standing with the [00:24:50] European Union. So he's a he's a member. [00:24:52] He's a you know, he's a part of it. But [00:24:55] I get along great with him and I get [00:24:56] along very well with them. I I agree [00:24:58] with him on immigration much more than I [00:25:00] agree with them. But I agree with, you [00:25:02] know, a lot of uh a lot of the things in [00:25:04] Europe he also agrees with. But he uh he [00:25:07] had a difference, I would say, primarily [00:25:10] on immigration more than anything else. [00:25:11] And I happen to think he was right [00:25:14] because their whole fabric has changed. [00:25:16] I mean, you go to some of the countries, [00:25:18] they're unrecognizable now because of [00:25:20] what they've done. And Hungary is very [00:25:22] recognizable. Yes, ma'am. President. [00:25:24] >> Yes, Mr. President. Will there be a [00:25:27] peaceful meeting in Budapest till this [00:25:29] year? What do you think? [00:25:31] >> You mean a meeting with uh President [00:25:33] Putin? [00:25:34] >> Yes. [00:25:34] >> You mean and in Hungary? Well, I'd like [00:25:36] to keep it in Hungary in Budapest. Uh [00:25:40] that meeting it turned out I didn't want [00:25:42] to do that meeting because I didn't [00:25:43] think anything was going to be happening [00:25:45] of significance. But uh if we have it, [00:25:48] I'd like to do it in Budapest. Yeah, it' [00:25:50] be good. [00:25:50] >> Mr. President, you said many time you [00:25:52] said many times to support Victor Orban. [00:25:55] Why is it important to win the next [00:25:57] election for example for the United [00:25:59] States, Hungary and also Europe? Why is [00:26:01] it important? [00:26:02] >> Well, I don't know his opponent. I don't [00:26:04] know if he has an opponent yet. At some [00:26:07] point he will, I guess. You know, we [00:26:08] always have opponents, right? Not much [00:26:10] of an opponent, [00:26:12] >> but uh I'll be supportive of him. He's [00:26:14] done a fantastic job. We've had a great [00:26:16] relationship. Uh the United States uh [00:26:20] look we had a country that had no [00:26:22] leader. It had an autopen illegal [00:26:25] autopen totally illegal and that's [00:26:27] coming out stronger and stronger. But we [00:26:30] had we had no leader in the United [00:26:32] States. I mean Hungary as an example had [00:26:35] no relationship with the United States [00:26:37] even though we do you know billions of [00:26:40] dollars in trade with Hungary. Hungary [00:26:42] is a big country economically. We do, [00:26:44] you know, billions of dollars in trade [00:26:46] with Hungary. Uh why would they give [00:26:49] that up? [00:26:51] And they gave up so much else. Look, [00:26:52] they give up everything. This country [00:26:54] was poorly run. I think if I didn't win [00:26:57] the election, we might not have a [00:26:59] country if you want to know the truth. [00:27:00] Not a recognizable country. But our [00:27:04] relationship uh was immediately good as [00:27:06] soon as I won the election because [00:27:08] Victor is one of the people that's uh [00:27:10] highly respected and we had a great [00:27:12] relationship with Hungary. We do again. [00:27:14] >> That was an easy one. Yeah. [00:27:16] >> Do you and Prime Minister Orban agree on [00:27:19] ways to put pressure on President Putin [00:27:22] to come to the negotiating table to end [00:27:25] the war in Ukraine? [00:27:26] >> I think we agree that the war is going [00:27:28] to end. Uh sometimes people have to [00:27:30] fight it out a little bit longer, but I [00:27:32] think we agree that the war is going to [00:27:34] end in the not too distant future. Do [00:27:36] you want to talk about that, Victor? No. [00:27:38] Um, I have some ideas and I will I will [00:27:42] present it to the president how to help. [00:27:44] >> Mr. Prime Minister, [00:27:46] >> Mr. President, since you brought up the [00:27:48] Walmart Thanksgiving meal and it is [00:27:51] cheaper, but it also contains less [00:27:55] >> Well, I haven't heard that. You're [00:27:56] telling me who are you with? Who are you [00:27:58] with? [00:27:58] >> I'm an NBC News. [00:27:59] >> Fake news? NBC. Your fake news. What a [00:28:03] what a NBC's gone down the tubes along [00:28:05] with most of the rest of them. Why do [00:28:07] you think there's such a disconnect [00:28:09] between the economy that you're [00:28:10] describing daytoday and the way many [00:28:13] Americans say and concern? [00:28:15] >> Well, they feel better about our country [00:28:17] right now other than the shutdown [00:28:18] obviously which is caused by the [00:28:20] Democrats could be ended by the [00:28:21] Democrats in two minutes. They feel much [00:28:24] better. We have more jobs. We just set a [00:28:26] record on jobs. You do know that we have [00:28:28] more investment in our country than any [00:28:30] country in history. We're over $18 [00:28:33] trillion as of this moment. and we're [00:28:35] going to be maybe a 20 or 21 trillion by [00:28:37] the time I finish up my first year. And [00:28:41] there's been no country, China, no [00:28:43] country in the world that's done [00:28:44] anywhere even close to that number. Uh [00:28:47] your friend Biden as an example in four [00:28:50] years was less than a trillion. We'll be [00:28:53] at 21 trillion in one year. So there's [00:28:56] no country that was even close to that. [00:28:58] And our country was a laughingstock all [00:29:00] over the world. Uh we have more jobs. We [00:29:02] have more potential than any other [00:29:04] country. And frankly, we're the hottest [00:29:06] country right now. Victor said to me [00:29:08] before, we're the hottest country [00:29:10] anywhere in the world. Think of it. [00:29:12] We'll have 20 21 trillion dollars [00:29:14] invested. We have auto plants pouring [00:29:16] back in. We have AI pouring back in. [00:29:19] We're leading China in AI by a lot. [00:29:22] We're leading everybody in every [00:29:24] category. There's no category that we're [00:29:26] in second place. Uh, so I just heard [00:29:29] this yesterday that Walmart said that [00:29:32] the Thanksgiving was 25 more expensive, [00:29:36] 25% more expensive under Biden. That's a [00:29:39] big to me that's a that's a big number [00:29:42] because Walmart's respected. I mean, [00:29:44] Walmart is Walmart and you know, they're [00:29:47] giving you prices. So, that would mean [00:29:49] that the whole uh series of pricing and [00:29:52] and costs, you know, the groceries and [00:29:54] everything else, it was a conj job. It [00:29:57] was a conj job. Affordability, they call [00:29:59] it, was a conj job by the by the [00:30:01] Democrats. The Democrats are good at a [00:30:03] few things. Cheating on elections and [00:30:05] conning people with facts that aren't [00:30:07] true. It was uh 25% Walmart just [00:30:11] announced it two days ago. 25% cheaper [00:30:15] this year will be cheaper to have [00:30:17] Thanksgiving than it was a year ago [00:30:19] under sleepy Joe Biden. [00:30:23] You say affordability is a a fun job as [00:30:26] you put it. [00:30:27] >> Say it. [00:30:27] >> You said affordability is a job and you [00:30:30] didn't want you said last night you [00:30:31] didn't want to talk about affordability. [00:30:33] >> I talk about it. When did I when did I [00:30:35] not want to talk about it? I talk about [00:30:37] it all the time. We are much better than [00:30:39] Biden and all of them. Now, just so you [00:30:42] understand, do you remember that the [00:30:45] Biden administration had the highest [00:30:47] inflation in 48 years, but most people [00:30:50] say ever recorded. Do you remember that, [00:30:53] right? Do you remember it? [00:30:55] >> Did they have the highest inflation in [00:30:57] 48 years? Did they just answer me the [00:31:00] question? You know the answer. The [00:31:02] answer is yes. They had the worst [00:31:04] inflation in 48 years. We have almost no [00:31:07] inflation. We're down now to 2%. And [00:31:10] we'll be at maybe 1%. You want to always [00:31:12] stay above 1% actually. You want a [00:31:14] little tiny bit of inflation. We're at a [00:31:16] perfect number. uh they were at the [00:31:18] highest level in recorded history. Okay. [00:31:22] And when you talk about affordability, [00:31:25] that one fact. Now, let's talk about the [00:31:27] second biggest subject after inflation, [00:31:29] energy. Uh we're going to be a $2 [00:31:31] gasoline. We're going to be [00:31:32] approximately $2 very soon. We're a [00:31:34] little bit above $2 right now for [00:31:36] gasoline. Now, uh under Biden, it was [00:31:40] four and a half. It even hit five, but [00:31:43] it was $4, three and a half dollars. [00:31:45] We're going to be at $2 a gallon. So [00:31:48] gasoline's much less. Energy costs are [00:31:50] less. When you have energy and when you [00:31:52] have gasoline less, everything else [00:31:54] follows. It's such a big category. So [00:31:56] when you have uh lower energy prices, [00:31:59] which I think you admit we do [00:32:01] substantially, that means everything [00:32:03] else. So we are the victors or [00:32:05] affordability. But if I I watched that [00:32:07] election, which I was not much involved [00:32:09] in. I didn't support Virginia the [00:32:12] candidate. uh didn't do a lot of support [00:32:14] for the other candidates. Uh they asked [00:32:17] me about Cuomo and I said, "Well, it's a [00:32:19] question. Do you want a thug or do you [00:32:21] want a communist?" I mean, that was my [00:32:23] response. So, I wasn't involved in that [00:32:25] stuff too much. But, but I will say [00:32:27] this, uh if you look at affordability, [00:32:30] which they campaigned on, they lied [00:32:32] because they talked about, oh, prices [00:32:34] are up. No, no. Prices are down under [00:32:37] the Trump administration, and they're [00:32:39] down substantially. Energy prices are [00:32:41] down by 30 35 40%. Gasoline is way down. [00:32:46] Uh and the other big thing as we started [00:32:49] inflation is way down. The big the [00:32:51] biggest thing is inflation. The second [00:32:53] biggest thing is energy. Energy is way [00:32:55] down. And what's also down? Gasoline [00:32:58] also. The biggest thing is inflation. [00:33:02] And it's way down. We took over a mess. [00:33:05] The highest inflation in recorded [00:33:08] history. Some people would say 48 years. [00:33:11] I'll take either one of them, but I [00:33:13] believe it's the highest inflation in [00:33:14] recorded history. That alone makes it [00:33:17] impossible for them to have done a good [00:33:19] job affordability wise. And one other [00:33:21] thing, when I came into office, Victor, [00:33:25] two days into office, they were [00:33:26] screaming at me about the cost of eggs. [00:33:28] I was there for two days. Eggs had [00:33:31] quadrupled. And I said, "Listen, I just [00:33:34] did I just got here. Let me check it [00:33:36] out." And they were right. Eggs had gone [00:33:38] up by three, four times. Within a period [00:33:40] of a few months, we had eggs down to a [00:33:43] normal cost. We did a great job on [00:33:46] groceries and affordability. The only [00:33:48] problem is the fake news. You people [00:33:50] don't want to report it. And in fact, [00:33:52] I'd like to ask Caroline. Where's [00:33:54] Caroline? [00:33:55] I'd like to ask Caroline a question. [00:33:58] Where is she? [00:34:00] Did she Uh oh. She deserted us. [00:34:04] She deserted me. [00:34:06] our our great Caroline superstar [00:34:08] deserted me anyway. She's she's right [00:34:11] outside. [00:34:13] >> She was going to talk about because the [00:34:16] fake news yesterday they talked about [00:34:18] that. They said, "Oh, I don't want to [00:34:19] talk about affordability." The reason I [00:34:21] don't want to talk about affordability [00:34:22] is because everybody knows that it's far [00:34:25] less expensive under Trump than it was [00:34:27] under Sleepy Joe Biden. [00:34:28] >> And the prices are way down. Caroline. [00:34:30] >> Yes, sir. Could you uh discuss that uh [00:34:33] that question that was asked and how how [00:34:37] it was asked in such a fake disgusting [00:34:40] manner by the fake news? [00:34:41] >> Yeah. And I just saw asked again here. [00:34:43] Very unfortunate that it [00:34:45] refused to address sir what you just [00:34:48] said which is that you inherited the [00:34:50] worst inflation crisis in modern [00:34:52] American history and you are fixing it [00:34:54] in 10 short months. Your entire [00:34:56] administration has been tasked with this [00:34:58] effort from Treasury Department to [00:35:00] agriculture department to the National [00:35:02] Economic Council right here at the White [00:35:03] House. They are slashing regulations. He [00:35:06] signed the largest middle class tax cut [00:35:07] in 6 months. In 6 months in record times [00:35:10] bringing more money back into people's [00:35:12] pockets. So affordability is what the [00:35:15] American people elected this president [00:35:16] to do and he is doing it. and you guys [00:35:18] refused to cover it. And you refused to [00:35:20] cover that the previous administration [00:35:22] created the worst unaffordability crisis [00:35:25] in American history. And I've been [00:35:27] watching the TV all day saying that he [00:35:29] doesn't want to talk about [00:35:30] affordability. That's what he's working [00:35:31] on every day. And that's [00:35:32] >> that's what I'm talking about right now. [00:35:34] But you know why they refuse to cover [00:35:35] it? [00:35:35] >> Can I? [00:35:36] >> Because they're fake news. That's why. [00:35:38] Go ahead. [00:35:38] >> Can I get her some more? [00:35:39] >> Sure. [00:35:41] >> Caroline, [00:35:43] the uh prime minister would like you to [00:35:45] work for him [laughter] in Hungary. [00:35:47] Please go. [00:35:48] >> You know what? That's a very good [00:35:49] decision you just made. Please, please, [00:35:52] please don't leave us, Caroline. [00:35:54] >> Yeah, please. [00:35:55] >> You spoke to Republican senators. They [00:35:57] do not seem interested right now in [00:35:58] getting rid of the bill. [00:35:59] >> That's too bad. They're making a big [00:36:01] mistake. That's right. No, but they're [00:36:02] they're coming my way. [00:36:04] >> You're right. Wait, wait a minute. Wait [00:36:05] a minute. Uh, [00:36:07] the way to do it for the Republicans is [00:36:10] to terminate the filibuster. They call [00:36:11] it the nuclear option. Uh, this is the [00:36:15] second form of nuclear. Very good. Very [00:36:17] good. This is a good forum. This is not [00:36:18] a bad forum. I would have been in favor [00:36:21] of that a long time ago. But you know, [00:36:22] the Democrats are going to do that. Most [00:36:24] of you will admit the Democrats are [00:36:26] going to do that. So why aren't we doing [00:36:28] it? And I think only a foolish person [00:36:30] would be against that. Especially when [00:36:32] you realize that these are crazed [00:36:34] people. These people are absolutely [00:36:36] crazed Trump derangement syndrome, [00:36:38] whatever it may be. uh and I am totally [00:36:42] in favor of uh terminating the [00:36:44] filibuster and we would be back to work [00:36:47] within 10 minutes after that vote took [00:36:49] place and lots of other good things [00:36:51] would happen. And it it's it doesn't [00:36:54] make any sense that a Republican would [00:36:56] not want to do that. [00:36:56] >> If they're not going to do that, then it [00:36:58] seems like you'd have to make a deal [00:36:59] with Democrats to end the shut down. [00:37:01] >> Here's some of the things that we pass [00:37:03] if we uh terminated the filibuster. [00:37:06] voter ID, no mail-in voting, no cash [00:37:09] bail, no men and women sports, no [00:37:12] welfare for illegals. You could go on [00:37:15] and on. This is two pages of of things [00:37:17] we do if you did that. Without it, I [00:37:19] don't know that you passed anything [00:37:20] because you can't deal with them. [00:37:22] They're they're really irrational. They [00:37:23] really are. But I was happy happy to see [00:37:26] that a tremendous liability to this [00:37:29] country. a woman that made herself rich [00:37:32] in this country. Nancy Pelosi has quit [00:37:34] and she'll be out of here pretty soon. [00:37:36] And that I consider that to be a great [00:37:37] asset for America. Getting her out. [00:37:39] Yeah, please. [00:37:40] >> Are you going to deal with Democrats and [00:37:42] not [00:37:43] >> I I don't know. We'll we'll see what [00:37:44] they have. I mean, we'll see. But [00:37:45] they're very destructive for the [00:37:47] country. NBC fake news. I'm not taking [00:37:49] you. Go ahead. [00:37:50] >> Are you worried about it backfiring in [00:37:52] the future on Republicans? Should they [00:37:54] get rid of filibuster and then down the [00:37:56] road? Well, you know, normally I would [00:37:58] say, well, a little bit. But the reason [00:38:00] that I'm not is because if they ever [00:38:02] took over power, they they'll do it. [00:38:05] Look, Joe Mansion and Cinema are two [00:38:09] people that are no longer in politics [00:38:10] because of this issue. They were uh [00:38:13] opposed to what the Democrats wanted to [00:38:15] do. They wanted to terminate the [00:38:16] filibuster. They were opposed to it. Uh [00:38:18] they're no longer in politics. They [00:38:20] gone. The Democrats will do this. So, if [00:38:22] the Democrats are going to do it, I'm [00:38:24] saying Republicans should do it before [00:38:26] they get a chance. It's very simple. And [00:38:28] if we do it, we will never lose the [00:38:30] midterms and we will never lose a [00:38:32] general election because we will have [00:38:34] produced so many different things for [00:38:36] our people, for the people, for the [00:38:37] country that it would be impossible to [00:38:39] lose an election. [00:38:44] >> AI bubble? [00:38:45] >> No, I love AI. I think it's going to be [00:38:48] very helpful. So many things are [00:38:50] happening with it. And in addition to [00:38:51] which we're leading China, we're leading [00:38:53] the world in AI. We're building massive [00:38:56] electric plants that the companies [00:38:58] themselves are building for their plant. [00:39:00] I've given them the right because we [00:39:01] need so much electricity for that. Just [00:39:03] the word is electricity, believe it or [00:39:05] not. Uh double the electricity that we [00:39:08] currently have in the country for just [00:39:09] the AI plants. And I've allowed those [00:39:12] companies to rebuild and build electric [00:39:16] plants along with their facility. We're [00:39:18] getting approvals done in less than a [00:39:20] month, sometimes in two weeks for [00:39:22] massive, beautiful, massive buildings. [00:39:24] And no, I'm I'm totally in favor of it. [00:39:27] I think it's it's really going to be the [00:39:29] wave of the future. And we're leading [00:39:30] the world. We're leading everybody by a [00:39:33] lot. [00:39:33] >> How long do you think, [00:39:36] how long do you think the shutdown will [00:39:37] last? [00:39:38] >> I I don't know. It's up to the [00:39:39] Democrats. We voted, the Republicans [00:39:41] have voted 14 times to open up the [00:39:43] country and the Democrats have voted 14 [00:39:46] times to uh hurt the country. Really, [00:39:49] they should approve it, but uh they [00:39:51] might not. That's why I like the uh [00:39:54] that's why I like the fact that we [00:39:55] terminate the filibuster. If we [00:39:57] terminate the filibuster, the country [00:39:58] will be open within 10 minutes after [00:40:00] that termination because we'll take a [00:40:02] second vote, which is the opening of the [00:40:04] country, and the Republicans will vote [00:40:06] to open the country. That's one of the [00:40:08] reasons, not the major reason, by the [00:40:10] way. I think it's less important than [00:40:12] the other things that we get. But if we [00:40:15] terminate the filibuster, the second [00:40:17] vote that we will take will be to open [00:40:19] up the country. It'll take 10 minutes [00:40:21] and the country will be open. [00:40:25] >> Is there any room for bipartisanship? [00:40:26] Because it seems like that's the main [00:40:29] purpose of the filibuster is to create [00:40:31] some sort of compromise. [00:40:32] >> Well, it didn't work obviously. [00:40:34] >> So, [00:40:35] >> you're right. That was that was the [00:40:36] purpose of the filibuster, [00:40:38] bipartisanship, but that didn't work. [00:40:39] >> So, are you saying the next three years [00:40:41] in Washington there shouldn't be? [00:40:43] >> Well, no. If there's if there's if the [00:40:45] filibuster is terminated, we will have [00:40:47] the most productive three years in the [00:40:50] history of our country. If the [00:40:51] filibuster is not terminated, then we [00:40:54] will be in a slog with the Democrats and [00:40:57] very little for either party will be [00:40:59] done. So, it's a good thing. Thank Thank [00:41:02] you very much, everybody. Thank you very [00:41:04] much. Thank you very much. [00:42:24] handheld. [00:42:29] Well, thank you very much everybody and [00:42:31] I'm delighted to be hosting this group [00:42:33] of very very