Harvey Speaks: Exclusive Interview On His Retrial

[00:00:00] Well, Harvey, it's good to speak with [00:00:01] you again. [00:00:02] >> Nice to hear your voice, Candace, and [00:00:04] see you. [00:00:05] >> How are you feeling? [00:00:07] >> Well, you know, it was a mixed up trial. [00:00:10] You know, we had jurors, you know, uh um [00:00:13] you know, in the middle of the trial say [00:00:15] they didn't want to be there. And um I [00:00:18] mean at you know towards the end of the [00:00:20] trial you know it got very very serious [00:00:23] with one of the jurors and uh who just [00:00:26] said I won't be in the same room with [00:00:29] the people who are making the decision. [00:00:32] And uh you know uh I have spoken to five [00:00:36] or six judges uh three or four close [00:00:39] friends of mine. Some I just know and uh [00:00:43] and they have never experienced what we [00:00:45] experienced in the courtroom with three [00:00:46] jurors complaining about the proceedings [00:00:49] as they were going on. [00:00:52] Yeah, I was following that in the news [00:00:53] and obviously the the jurors were pretty [00:00:55] explicit to the judge that they felt [00:00:57] that there was intimidation that some of [00:01:00] them were being mistreated according to [00:01:02] um whether they were coming on one side [00:01:04] of the issue or the other. And so I was [00:01:06] very surprised and I I tweeted actually [00:01:08] out on X I don't see how they can't say [00:01:10] this is declared this an immediate [00:01:12] mistrial and they didn't. They didn't [00:01:14] declare it an immediate mistrial. [00:01:16] >> Well, we wanted it declared a mistrial. [00:01:19] Arthur Ayadala, my head lawyer. Arthur [00:01:21] and Diana are fabulous. And Mike Sabella [00:01:24] and Jennifer Bonine, I had a fabulous [00:01:27] team. They rose and, you know, said one [00:01:29] time after another, this is a definite [00:01:32] mistrial. And at one point, I was, you [00:01:36] know, frustrated and I addressed the [00:01:38] judge myself and I said, "Your honor, [00:01:40] this is a matter of a profile and [00:01:42] courage. It's not important enough to [00:01:44] keep the trial going. Something is [00:01:47] radically wrong here. When there are [00:01:49] playground tactics, when somebody is [00:01:52] being threatened, I'll take you outside [00:01:54] and we'll settle this outside. That's [00:01:56] not the way to settle uh somebody's [00:01:59] life. In in this case, my life. [00:02:03] >> Why do you think the judge didn't [00:02:05] declare a mistrial? [00:02:07] >> I I have no idea. I have no idea [00:02:10] whatsoever. I think he maybe thought he [00:02:13] could power through it, but you can't [00:02:15] power through those things. Those things [00:02:17] are too important. [00:02:19] >> You know, Harvey, I have to say on some [00:02:21] matters, I think that you remain, I [00:02:24] would almost say optimistic when it [00:02:27] comes to the court system, even in [00:02:28] making a plea to the judge. And I can [00:02:31] just tell you on the outside looking in [00:02:32] with a lot of the cases that are [00:02:34] happening, you know, there's there's big [00:02:36] news regarding the Epstein case that, [00:02:38] you know, they're just kind of going to [00:02:39] leave it alone and we're not going to [00:02:40] get any client list. There's been the [00:02:42] Diddy case which happened last week and [00:02:44] um he got great news despite [00:02:46] overwhelming video evidence uh that one [00:02:49] of his producers had and even with [00:02:52] Justin Baldoni, you know, elements of [00:02:54] his case getting dropped that people [00:02:56] feel are unfair. Um all of these having [00:02:59] having taken place majority in New York, [00:03:01] people are wondering if the the system [00:03:04] is even fair, forgetting your case, but [00:03:06] just taking a look at everything on a [00:03:08] large larger picture. Is there something [00:03:10] rotten in the New York system? [00:03:13] >> Well, I I I certainly am, you know, [00:03:16] sickened by the results. You know, [00:03:18] there's no reason that with this trial [00:03:21] shouldn't be a mistrial. And so you can [00:03:24] add me to those voices, you know, who [00:03:27] feel that something's wrong with the [00:03:29] system. This is a terrible outcome. [00:03:33] >> But have you have you considered that it [00:03:35] could be deeper than that? And I know [00:03:36] that I've asked you this offline, but [00:03:40] that there was somebody who wanted you [00:03:41] put away, that there may have been [00:03:42] someone who wanted your company. I mean, [00:03:44] these are genuinely the questions that I [00:03:46] have asked myself when looking at your [00:03:47] case because to me, there is just [00:03:50] overwhelming evidence that you were set [00:03:52] up here. Like there's just no objective [00:03:54] look at the evidence in my view that you [00:03:57] could come away going Harvey Weinstein [00:03:59] is definitively guilty and someone like [00:04:02] Diddy who we have on camera beating a [00:04:04] woman is definitively not guilty. I just [00:04:08] I have to ask you that question. [00:04:10] >> Well, I just have to say that you know [00:04:12] the district attorney in this situation [00:04:14] is relentless. They will spend and have [00:04:17] spent millions of dollars. They flew to [00:04:20] Australia to confirm with one of their [00:04:22] to confer with one of their clients. [00:04:24] They flew to Washington State to confer [00:04:26] with the other one of their clients. [00:04:28] They will spend whatever it takes to [00:04:30] spend they hired uh an expert witness [00:04:34] who told the jury that it's okay for [00:04:37] Mimi to have uh to to quote say that I [00:04:41] raped her and then have consensual sex [00:04:43] with me two weeks later. You know that [00:04:46] that was normal. a at $750 an hour plus [00:04:51] expenses. You're hardressed to find [00:04:54] anybody who wouldn't say what that [00:04:56] expert said for that kind of money. But [00:04:59] they said it in the court and the [00:05:01] district attorney paid it. I am sure [00:05:03] when they got paid through with that [00:05:05] bill, you know, I mean, at $750 an hour, [00:05:09] you're talking about $50,000 [00:05:11] to get an expert witness to say that [00:05:14] it's okay to have consensual sex with [00:05:16] your rapist. common sense. Common sense [00:05:20] was thrown out the window. You can buy [00:05:23] anything. And apparently the DA bought [00:05:26] that that that instruction, that advice [00:05:29] was paid for. [00:05:31] >> And and that's what I'm saying, Harvey. [00:05:33] Like I said, I've looked at this case [00:05:35] deeply, and it looks to me like a [00:05:37] modern-day hit. And I'm sorry to say [00:05:39] that. I I genuinely think that for [00:05:41] whatever reason, I don't know who you [00:05:43] upset. I don't know what they were [00:05:44] after, but it just looks to me like a [00:05:46] rigged system and they took you out. And [00:05:48] there are some a cast of characters are [00:05:50] involved that make me uncomfortable. I [00:05:52] mean, Gloria Allred's name. I don't know [00:05:54] that she's ever lost a case. And I I [00:05:56] think back to even when Michael Jackson [00:05:58] was was trying to publicly signal, and [00:06:00] again, this is all allegedly, he's no [00:06:02] longer alive, that Gloria Allred was a [00:06:05] part of sort of this team of people who [00:06:06] can just take people out when they want [00:06:08] to. And I can't ignore that. I can't [00:06:10] ignore those things. I can't ignore [00:06:11] what's happening to you. I can't ignore [00:06:13] the overwhelming evidence. It to me it [00:06:14] looks like it was just a show trial and [00:06:16] the outcome was already determined [00:06:18] before you even stepped into that [00:06:19] courtroom. [00:06:20] >> Well, Gloria Alred came to me with Mimi [00:06:24] when she first announced Mimi's trial. [00:06:26] She went to my lawyers and said, "For [00:06:29] $750,000, [00:06:31] pay us off and we'll go away." [00:06:34] And we didn't pay him, you know, because [00:06:36] we thought it was absolute nonsense. and [00:06:39] and also there were term limits at that [00:06:41] point, but she made a deal with the [00:06:44] district attorney to wave the term [00:06:46] limits in return for Mimi's testimony. [00:06:49] So, I mean, a deal was made by Gloria [00:06:51] Alred. Gloria Alred is the villain and [00:06:56] one of the villains here and she made [00:06:58] the deal to prove what you say is true. [00:07:02] >> And that to me is not unlike the [00:07:05] structure of a modern gang. you know, [00:07:07] you pay us. You pay us and you'll be [00:07:09] fine. If you don't pay us, then you're [00:07:10] going to have trouble. And it looks like [00:07:12] you walked away from the deal. You could [00:07:13] given her $750,000 and she would have [00:07:16] gone away and you opted not to. And you [00:07:19] have been fighting for your life ever [00:07:20] since. You know, it's it's one of these [00:07:22] things that, like I said, the [00:07:24] conversation is very different from when [00:07:26] you went in and this conversation would [00:07:28] have been impossible a few years ago. [00:07:29] But people are starting to see that this [00:07:32] isn't a coincidence that this keeps [00:07:33] happening, that the same characters are [00:07:35] involved from even the publications. I [00:07:36] mean the New York Times, you Justin [00:07:38] Baldoni, you know, they publish a piece [00:07:40] absent a lot of information and then [00:07:42] suddenly the attack dogs are out in full [00:07:45] force. [00:07:46] Well, even the New York Times in this [00:07:48] situation, you know, amazing as it is, [00:07:52] you know, I mean, with the with the [00:07:53] investigation that's going on with the [00:07:55] New York Times, they did a piece about [00:07:57] the jurors and what the jurors went [00:08:00] through on this trial, and they had four [00:08:02] or five jurors and their testimony to [00:08:06] the incredible nature of being [00:08:08] threatened by one another during this [00:08:11] trial. So, I mean, the New York Times, [00:08:14] you know, just to bring it up is there's [00:08:16] an a young man named Clark Patterson who [00:08:19] just wrote an article about the New York [00:08:20] Times and wrote an article about the two [00:08:24] journalists who wrote the first hit [00:08:26] piece on me. And I think if you tangle [00:08:28] with the New York Times, you're dead. [00:08:31] You know, I mean, they have infinite [00:08:32] resources and they will call up those [00:08:35] resources and they will go after you no [00:08:37] end. And he wrote a piece, you know, he [00:08:40] had the courage to write a piece. It's [00:08:42] in MSN and it's on Medium. The full [00:08:45] 17,000 words is on Medium. And and [00:08:48] nobody nobody is out there rushing to [00:08:52] publicize the fact that the New York [00:08:55] Times original piece about me was wrong, [00:08:58] you know, and the Ashley Juds of this [00:09:00] world and the other and the Rose [00:09:03] McGawans and all what they said was [00:09:06] I mean, nonsense. Excuse my [00:09:09] language, you know. and uh this reporter [00:09:12] captured all that, but there's no public [00:09:14] outcry, you know, uh with his piece, but [00:09:17] I think he's going to get there. I think [00:09:19] slowly but surely it's working its way [00:09:21] up through the system, but it's slow. [00:09:24] >> Yeah. And you my you will definitely [00:09:26] find a sympathetic audience wi with with [00:09:28] my audience because we speak about this [00:09:30] often. I think the only way that we can [00:09:31] make sense of the present is to look at [00:09:33] the past. And I have examined the New [00:09:35] York Times through the lens of how they [00:09:36] were created. I mean, we've been [00:09:38] wrongly, I think, deluded to believe [00:09:40] that journalists are sort of this like [00:09:41] fourth estate that they protect against [00:09:44] corruption. They're a part of the [00:09:45] corruption. Historically, the New York [00:09:47] Times had a relationship with the CIA. [00:09:49] That is just a fact. It is a fact that [00:09:50] is available at anybody's fingertips. [00:09:52] They are an extension of the state. Um, [00:09:55] and so that is why when I when I ask you [00:09:56] those questions and I was not surprised [00:09:59] when they chopped up Justin Baldon's [00:10:00] lawsuit because he went after the New [00:10:02] York Times. You can't win against the [00:10:04] New York Times. judges have lost going [00:10:06] after the New York Times saying that the [00:10:08] New York Times was defaming them as I've [00:10:10] shown on my show. When I look at that [00:10:12] and I think that the New York Times was [00:10:14] initially uh the people behind them went [00:10:16] after you, I do think that you stepped [00:10:18] on somebody's toes like there's [00:10:19] somebody's toes that you stepped on that [00:10:22] you may not have been aware of when you [00:10:23] were in Hollywood because you had a lot [00:10:25] of power. You had a lot of power. [00:10:27] >> I agree with you, Candace. You know, [00:10:30] looking back on it, you know, there are [00:10:32] definitely people, you know, I can't say [00:10:35] who. [00:10:36] >> Why not? Why can't you say who? What do [00:10:37] you have to say? [00:10:38] >> Because I'm not sure that I'm right. You [00:10:41] know, [00:10:41] >> you say I think [00:10:44] >> maybe [00:10:44] >> I I I will say that I think there are [00:10:47] people whose toes I stepped on. And I [00:10:50] will also say I think there are [00:10:51] politicians whose toes I whose toes I [00:10:54] stepped on. And as a result of the two [00:10:57] forces mingling together and you throw [00:10:59] in the New York Times and you have [00:11:01] enormous prejudice against me and an [00:11:04] enormous fight against me and an [00:11:06] enormous [00:11:08] I I don't know what to say, you know, [00:11:11] you know, just a force against me of all [00:11:14] these forces coming together. But it's [00:11:17] weakening. It's weakening. It's [00:11:19] weakening because of you and and I I [00:11:23] can't tell you that having done your [00:11:24] interview how many people come up to me [00:11:27] in whatever little street cred credence [00:11:30] I have now. Cops come up to me, workers [00:11:33] come up to me wherever I'm at, wherever [00:11:36] I'm out, people come to me and say, "I [00:11:38] saw you on Candace. I saw you on [00:11:40] Candace. Keep up the good work. Keep up [00:11:43] your good work because you're cracking [00:11:45] that system." And Clark Patterson is out [00:11:48] there cracking that system, too. You [00:11:51] know, they it it won't it won't permeate [00:11:54] forever and it's not as strong as it [00:11:56] thinks it is. [00:11:57] >> It's not and and we're seeing that the [00:11:59] fraying is happening now, but I really [00:12:01] want to push you on this point, Har, [00:12:02] because I think I think it's very [00:12:04] significant. Who were the politicians [00:12:07] toes that you stepped on? I'm not we're [00:12:09] not making any allegations against them, [00:12:11] but I it certainly is it's interesting. [00:12:13] It would be an interesting rabbit for me [00:12:15] to chase to know which politicians you [00:12:17] think you may have upset because I'm [00:12:18] telling you the New York Times is an [00:12:20] extension of the state. [00:12:22] >> Well, I think that um you know with the [00:12:25] Ombro situation, you know, I mean, I got [00:12:28] off with a mis not even a misdemeanor. I [00:12:30] just got off with a you know, you know, [00:12:33] just an understanding that Amber was an [00:12:37] unreliable witness. This is the woman [00:12:39] who taped me, made the telephone call, [00:12:42] set me up with the police officers, and [00:12:44] the police officers wanted to prosecute [00:12:46] me. And I think that um as a result of [00:12:50] me getting off, what I had was I got [00:12:54] jurisdiction in Italy. And in Italy, I [00:12:57] got my people to go to the judge in [00:12:59] Italy and open up sealed paperwork which [00:13:04] admitted that when she was 17 years old, [00:13:08] she was living in a house paid for by [00:13:10] her pimp, $5,000 a month, and getting [00:13:14] $1,000 a month sexual congress for [00:13:16] having sex with this guy. Not her pimp, [00:13:19] I guess, her boyfriend, you know, you [00:13:22] know, whatever. But she was paid for [00:13:24] sex. And then she also went to a party, [00:13:27] a bunga bunga party with the prime [00:13:29] minister of Italy, Burleskonei. And she [00:13:32] also complained to the press about that. [00:13:34] She later on said her boyfriend raped [00:13:37] her in Italy and she had huge, huge [00:13:40] press. So when this situation happened [00:13:42] with me, she just wanted huge press and [00:13:46] she got huge press. She became a famous [00:13:49] person. But when I got off, Cyrus Vance, [00:13:52] who is the district attorney, was [00:13:54] accused of leniency in my situation. And [00:13:58] then when the New York Times published [00:14:00] its piece, they went after me held to [00:14:02] leather. So, I think Cyrus Vance was one [00:14:05] of those people who wanted to see me, [00:14:08] you know, uh um you know, screwed and uh [00:14:13] and certainly went out of his way, you [00:14:15] know, I mean, with an incredible, [00:14:17] you know, force that they put together [00:14:20] in this district attorney's office to [00:14:22] convict me the first time. [00:14:24] >> I've said it before and I'm going to say [00:14:26] it again that I am pro-life. That means [00:14:27] standing with mothers before their baby [00:14:29] is born and long after. 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[00:16:56] Like she's like you know a person grows [00:16:58] too big or they they own a catalog of [00:17:00] something and then they'll start making [00:17:01] up rumors about this person. The next [00:17:03] thing you know he's forced to sort of [00:17:04] sell his company. Kind of similar by the [00:17:06] way with what happened with Michael [00:17:07] Jackson. If you take a look at that case [00:17:09] he had almost owned the the Beatles [00:17:10] catalog. he was definitely fighting Sony [00:17:12] and winning. And then suddenly these [00:17:14] allegations began swirling. And so in my [00:17:16] mind, I thought, you know, Harvey [00:17:18] Weinstein, he had a lot. I mean, you had [00:17:20] the greatest movies that that were in [00:17:21] Hollywood. You had a lot of power. And [00:17:23] I'm wondering if there was anybody in [00:17:24] Hollywood that you may have been [00:17:26] fighting with at that time, like whether [00:17:28] it was, you know, another producer or [00:17:30] another company or or an individual that [00:17:35] just anything that could have been going [00:17:36] on because I think there's something [00:17:37] bigger happening here. There wasn't a [00:17:39] fight per se, but nobody enjoyed my the [00:17:42] inner sanctum of Hollywood did not enjoy [00:17:45] my success. The people enjoyed my [00:17:48] success. The people who went to movies, [00:17:51] the young filmmakers, you know, the [00:17:53] people who believed that they could do [00:17:55] it too if they just had an opportunity [00:17:58] to do it. But the establishment I would [00:18:00] not say was my friends. [00:18:02] >> Right. And and who what is the [00:18:04] establishment in Hollywood? It's [00:18:07] normally the big studios, you know what [00:18:09] I mean? And uh and it's, you know, it's [00:18:11] the big studios, but I I can't say that [00:18:14] they put me into a New York Times [00:18:16] article, you know? I can't I I can say [00:18:19] that there was animosity, but I can't [00:18:22] say that they were part of this, [00:18:24] >> right? No, I'm just wondering like who [00:18:26] in the end who owns all those movies [00:18:28] now? Who owns who owns your catalog? [00:18:30] What happened? We sold the we sold the [00:18:32] catalog to um uh a company called Bin, [00:18:38] you know, I mean, which is owned by the [00:18:39] Qatari government. [00:18:41] >> And uh and um we sold the other part of [00:18:45] the library to a company called Spy [00:18:47] Glass and Lantern, which is owned by the [00:18:50] Saudi Arabian uh government. [00:18:53] >> Very interesting. I'm asking these [00:18:55] questions because my investigation into [00:18:57] this isn't going isn't going to stop [00:18:58] with the conclusion of your trial. I [00:19:00] just think that there was something more [00:19:02] sinister that was happening. I've always [00:19:03] had that instinct and on the basis of [00:19:05] things that I've just been reading this [00:19:07] year about Hollywood and the things that [00:19:09] have happened, I I do think that it was [00:19:11] very intentional. So, what happens now [00:19:13] with your case? [00:19:16] What happens now with my case is that [00:19:18] Arthur Ayadala is, you know, I mean, [00:19:21] circling the wagons and, you know, I [00:19:23] mean, and interviewing the jurors, you [00:19:26] know, we're doing the interviews [00:19:27] ourselves and obviously we have the [00:19:30] right to bring this situation back up [00:19:33] and hopefully the court will listen, but [00:19:36] I'm not sure that they will. You know, [00:19:38] they have they they they might just turn [00:19:40] us down again and just say, "Forget [00:19:43] about it." Even with all this publicity, [00:19:46] even with all the sturman drang of these [00:19:48] jurors, you know, the court might just [00:19:50] say, "Look, they made an opinion. You [00:19:53] know, the verdict sticks and you've got [00:19:55] to pay the price." So, you know, the [00:19:58] district attorney in Jennifer Man's [00:20:01] Jessica Man's situation, we had a hung [00:20:05] jury and the district attorney wants to [00:20:08] immediately prosecute that again. They [00:20:11] want to go again. And Jessica Man wants [00:20:13] to go again, which just shows how [00:20:16] absolutely offthe-wall Jessica Man is. [00:20:19] She just wants to continue and continue [00:20:22] and continue. No matter how much she has [00:20:24] to get on that witness stand, it's her [00:20:26] life. It's become her identity. You [00:20:30] know, it the the victimhood is so strong [00:20:33] with who she identifies with. This was a [00:20:36] failed actress and as a result, you [00:20:39] know, I mean, in Hollywood, she didn't [00:20:41] get what she wanted. But I was always [00:20:43] kind to her. I was always sweet to her. [00:20:46] I opened the doors for her. It's just [00:20:48] sometimes I always said to them, "I'll [00:20:50] open the door, but you have to go [00:20:52] through it. It's your talent that wins [00:20:55] the game." Even one of her best friends [00:20:57] said she didn't go to acting school. She [00:21:00] didn't pursue it the way you know the [00:21:02] great actresses of today and yestery [00:21:05] year went to schools. You you hear about [00:21:08] all the Jane Fonda Actor Studio, Merl [00:21:12] Street, Bal Drama School. You I mean the [00:21:15] the the credentials of these actresses [00:21:19] that have succeeded or unsurpassed the [00:21:22] work that they put into their own [00:21:24] personal careers. And yet there were [00:21:27] people like Jessica man who just wanted [00:21:30] it to come for free, you know, or wanted [00:21:33] it to come through knowing me and or [00:21:35] networking at parties that I invited her [00:21:38] to. Well, now she's made now her I she [00:21:41] got paid $475,000, [00:21:44] you know, which is more money than she's [00:21:46] ever seen. Uh uh Mimi Ha, Miriam H got [00:21:51] $475,000. [00:21:53] And the girl who the jury voted not [00:21:56] guilty got $3 million. [00:21:59] >> Unbelievable. [00:22:00] >> $3 million. [00:22:02] >> From the Walt Disney Company. She lied. [00:22:05] She lied. She was not She was found not [00:22:10] I was found not guilty and she lied and [00:22:13] she put $3 million in her pocket. [00:22:16] >> I mean, it's one of those things that if [00:22:17] the public could read all of their [00:22:19] emails, it's it's stunning to me. I [00:22:21] don't know how they put their heads on [00:22:23] their pillow at night. You know, they if [00:22:25] they have any sense of faith, I mean, [00:22:27] hell is an eternity. It's it's scary to [00:22:29] me that you could switch so quickly from [00:22:31] I love you and excs xxx and smooches and [00:22:34] I see Harvey like a father to suddenly [00:22:37] being on the stand. I mean, just so many [00:22:39] emails. I couldn't read them all. I I [00:22:41] literally did not have the time, Harvey, [00:22:44] to commit to reading all of the emails [00:22:46] because that's how many there are after [00:22:49] their alleged quote unquote sexual [00:22:51] assaults or rapes. And for that to be [00:22:54] the case, to have an overwhelming [00:22:56] catalog of evidence that shows that this [00:22:58] relationship was consensual, and to have [00:23:01] the public then be told, "Oh, no, [00:23:03] actually, but this one time it maybe [00:23:05] wasn't, and we have no evidence of that [00:23:06] other than their word." It should [00:23:08] terrify everyone. That is why this case [00:23:10] is so important to me because I have [00:23:12] three sons, right? And we can't live in [00:23:14] a world where women can essentially [00:23:18] throw out their bodies like it's the [00:23:20] casting couch. That's what they wanted. [00:23:21] They wanted an exchange. These these are [00:23:22] sugar baby relationships. And then, you [00:23:25] know, I'm going to re on that [00:23:27] because I didn't become the next [00:23:28] Angelina Jolie. And so now I'm saying [00:23:31] that actually I was I was raped. [00:23:34] >> Well, Jess, you know, Jessica man did [00:23:36] exactly what you're talking about. Mimi [00:23:39] Hale did exactly what you're talking [00:23:41] about and Kaya did exactly what you're [00:23:44] talking about. You know, there are there [00:23:46] are emails that are filled with good [00:23:49] thought, you know, and there's nothing [00:23:52] there's not one disagreement on any of [00:23:54] those emails. There's no like Harvey, [00:23:56] you were rude to me at a party or you [00:23:59] didn't let me in or you didn't get me [00:24:01] invited somewhere. They would ask me for [00:24:03] tickets and even if it was an impossible [00:24:05] situation, you could see through the [00:24:08] emails the effort that was made to get [00:24:10] them into the event. [00:24:12] >> You know, I I took these, you know, even [00:24:15] after the relationships ended, I took it [00:24:18] seriously that they that there were [00:24:19] friendships here and that these were [00:24:22] people who wanted to get into the [00:24:23] industry and it was trying to do my part [00:24:26] to help them get into the industry. But [00:24:29] Ka broke my heart. We got her into the [00:24:31] Lee Strawber Institute, the toughest [00:24:34] school for acting in New York, and she [00:24:36] was modeling and making good money, and [00:24:39] she said she couldn't afford to go. I [00:24:41] mean, but we got her in, and she just [00:24:43] should have gone, but she didn't go. She [00:24:46] didn't put the work in. [00:24:48] >> It's unbelievable. It is. It truly is [00:24:50] unbelievable. And I can imagine that [00:24:52] it's it's difficult for your family to [00:24:53] have to go through this. Um, but are you [00:24:56] optimistic on the outcome that you know [00:24:58] once you once Arthur shows that this [00:25:01] clearly should have been declared a [00:25:02] mistrial that they might do the right [00:25:04] thing here? [00:25:06] C [00:25:07] >> Candace, I I like you say with the [00:25:09] system the way it is, I I'm not I'm not [00:25:12] optimistic and I'm not pessimistic. I'm [00:25:15] somewhere in the middle. I don't know [00:25:17] what's going to happen. I really don't [00:25:19] know what's going to happen. It's, you [00:25:22] know, it's it's like I said to the judge [00:25:24] the first time, it's a profile and [00:25:26] courage, you know, to the judge. [00:25:29] >> I don't and I don't think that these I [00:25:31] think there are people way above their [00:25:32] pay grades that that make these sorts of [00:25:34] decisions and I mean, we're we're [00:25:35] speaking about that today on the podcast [00:25:37] and we've been covering all of this, but [00:25:39] you know, we're going to continue to [00:25:40] cover this this case, Harvey, and you [00:25:42] know, hopefully the right thing will [00:25:44] happen here. If nothing else, this has [00:25:46] contributed to an international [00:25:48] conversation about what the Me Too [00:25:50] movement is, about the fact that people [00:25:52] don't actually get justice when they go, [00:25:54] you know, when they go through the court [00:25:56] system. I would say, especially in New [00:25:58] York and Los Angeles, there seems to be [00:26:00] a particular strand of corruption that I [00:26:02] can't quite figure out. Um, and like I [00:26:05] said, you have a case where Justin [00:26:06] Baldon is even seeing the results of [00:26:08] that and he did nothing but try to make [00:26:10] a movie with a woman that he adored, [00:26:12] which was Blake Lively, and has had his [00:26:15] life just rad through the coals. [00:26:17] >> Well, recently, Candace, the [00:26:20] international part of what you say is [00:26:22] actually happening. There's a fissure [00:26:24] there. And what happened was in Italy in [00:26:28] the in my in my case in Los Angeles [00:26:31] which is under appeal for Eugenia [00:26:33] Chernichova [00:26:35] the man Pascal Basadimi is now on trial [00:26:39] for perjury in Italy. So, you know, we [00:26:43] are hoping that we win the perjury trial [00:26:45] and rather than have to go through the [00:26:48] years of appeal, you know, I mean, that [00:26:50] we would have to go through that if he [00:26:53] if we win our if we win our lawsuit in [00:26:56] Italy that they could vacate the [00:26:58] sentence and we could be free of that [00:27:01] charge in Italy charge in California. So [00:27:05] there there it is this is you know big [00:27:09] news in the world of you know this whole [00:27:12] me too movement that Italy is taking an [00:27:15] active stand against the me too movement [00:27:18] by having this trial. [00:27:20] >> Yeah that is amazing. When is your LA [00:27:22] appeal when is that case going to be [00:27:24] heard? [00:27:25] >> We file it we file it this week and you [00:27:29] know I mean I don't know how long it [00:27:30] could take. It could be a year. It could [00:27:32] be two years. I I don't know, you know, [00:27:35] I mean, hopefully sooner than later, but [00:27:38] I do not know the answer to that [00:27:39] question. [00:27:40] >> And you're in Rikers where I I should [00:27:42] just just going to mention this. I mean, [00:27:43] talking about how rough that prison is. [00:27:45] We were supposed to do this call last [00:27:47] week and then everything got locked down [00:27:49] because there was a stabbing. Is that [00:27:51] correct? [00:27:52] >> A gunfight and a stabbing. And um you [00:27:55] know I was at you know sitting at the [00:27:57] dental dentist's office at 12:00 with [00:28:01] you know more than 2 hours to prepare to [00:28:04] go to do the interview and then the [00:28:06] lockdown happened. This is a very rough [00:28:09] place. This is an unhygienic place. You [00:28:12] don't get your shirts. You don't get [00:28:14] your socks. You don't get your [00:28:15] underwear. You know the food is rancid. [00:28:18] I mean it is really awful. you know, the [00:28:21] food and it just I it took me 5 days to [00:28:24] get a pillow when I got back. And a [00:28:27] pillow is in the patient's bill of [00:28:29] rights, but I didn't get the pillow. I [00:28:33] had to have Arthur and Craig, you know, [00:28:35] I mean, lobby the heads of Riker's [00:28:40] Island to get a pillow. I mean, and and [00:28:44] I had a pillow and they took my pillow [00:28:46] and I guess they gave it to somebody [00:28:48] else. I mean, it's just absurd the [00:28:51] fighting for these little things that we [00:28:53] take for granted. I mean, I've been in [00:28:56] upstate New York in prison and those [00:28:58] things come to you. You know, I mean, [00:29:01] the prisons are run better, but Riker's [00:29:03] Island is medieval and it's it's an [00:29:06] entity unto itself and it's no good and [00:29:09] everybody says it should be closed down [00:29:11] and for once it should be closed down. [00:29:14] >> How are you able to to keep your spirits [00:29:16] up? I I am kind of always amazed that [00:29:19] your mind is just always so strong [00:29:21] throughout all of this and I'm just [00:29:23] wondering what what is the solution for [00:29:24] you? [00:29:25] >> I have the strength of my friends, you [00:29:28] know, and uh and they're not the friends [00:29:30] of Hollywood. They're the friends that I [00:29:32] grew up with and the friends that I made [00:29:35] along the way that were just genuine and [00:29:38] nothing to do with my career. And so, as [00:29:41] a result of my friends and my family and [00:29:43] my kids, you know what I mean? I'm able [00:29:46] to just live for, you know, hearing [00:29:50] their stories, getting a kick out of [00:29:53] their stories, you know. Um, uh, India [00:29:56] told me a story, you know, the other day [00:29:59] about her being, you know, uh, with her [00:30:02] friends and there was an argument and [00:30:04] she didn't want to be there for the [00:30:05] argument and she was able to get out of [00:30:08] the house and have somebody drive her [00:30:10] and just, you know, just a simple story [00:30:13] like that just, you know, it it it's [00:30:16] unfortunate that it happened, but it [00:30:18] makes my day to watch how ingenious she [00:30:20] was to get out of that house when, you [00:30:24] know, when she when she needed to get [00:30:25] out of there and um just listening to [00:30:28] the kids and talk about movies and you [00:30:31] know say hey you know because we get we [00:30:34] have a a tablet and we get movies [00:30:37] normally 6 months later and my son said [00:30:40] to me hey dad you know I don't believe [00:30:42] that uh uh Black Panther not Black [00:30:45] Panther that Captain America is going to [00:30:48] be a good movie and I said no no it [00:30:50] looks good I've heard it's good see it [00:30:53] and he went and saw it and he said, [00:30:54] "Dad, it was terrible." And then I I I [00:30:58] finally saw it and I had to call him on [00:31:00] the phone and said, "You know what? [00:31:02] You're right. It was terrible." But but [00:31:05] he just went to F1, Formula 1, the Brad [00:31:08] Pitt movie, and he said that was great. [00:31:10] And he said it was really a great movie. [00:31:12] And he's a racing car fan, so he loved [00:31:14] it. [00:31:15] >> Do you know? [00:31:15] >> So just hearing their stories, hearing [00:31:17] their their tals makes it is the only [00:31:20] thing that keeps me going. Otherwise, I [00:31:22] would give up. [00:31:23] >> Um, you know, Twitter is a cesspool, but [00:31:26] there's a lot of humor on Twitter. And I [00:31:28] did see somebody tweeted and it went [00:31:30] kind of viral because they did sort, you [00:31:32] know, they're doing all these Disney [00:31:33] remakes and they did um the Snow White [00:31:37] remake, which ended up being a disaster [00:31:39] with Rachel Zgler and somebody tweeted, [00:31:41] I don't care what anybody says, if [00:31:42] Harvey Weinstein was out of prison, this [00:31:44] would have never happened. [00:31:47] And I think everyone acknowledges movies [00:31:49] have gone downhill since Harvey has been [00:31:51] locked up. And it was a very funny tweet [00:31:53] and I totally totally agreed. This [00:31:55] disaster would not have happened. [00:31:57] >> Well, you know, it's funny. Um, you not [00:32:00] to be egotistical about it, but you [00:32:03] know, sometimes I watch my movies, you [00:32:06] know, because I get them on the tablet [00:32:08] or I see them, you know, on television [00:32:11] and um and uh and I remember the [00:32:14] meticulous amount of work that we did [00:32:17] did on every film. We were so [00:32:19] meticulous, such perfectionist. And that [00:32:22] probably got me into trouble because I [00:32:24] had a temper and I was angry. But I saw [00:32:27] a movie that we made called Kate and [00:32:28] Leopold with Meg Ryan and you Jackman [00:32:31] and I said this can't be any good. It [00:32:34] was successful because it was a romantic [00:32:36] comedy and I watched it and it's a [00:32:38] charmer and James Mangle did a great job [00:32:42] you know on the film and I but but I [00:32:43] remember the work that we did alongside [00:32:46] of him. It was intense to make a romant [00:32:49] simple romantic comedy but a simple [00:32:52] romantic comedy can be so elegant and so [00:32:54] winning. I I never made Breakfast in [00:32:56] Tiffany's. That's too old even for me. [00:32:59] But it's beautifully done. Just [00:33:02] beautifully done. And I tried to emulate [00:33:04] that in everything that we did. [00:33:06] >> Yeah. I I I used to love it. And this [00:33:08] isn't one of your movies, but because [00:33:09] you brought her up, Meg Ryan, uh When [00:33:11] Harry Met Sally is one of my one of my [00:33:13] absolute favorite movies, and it is [00:33:14] quite simple, but it's just a good [00:33:15] script, and it's very funny. [00:33:17] >> Well, she's fantastic in in that movie, [00:33:20] and she's fantastic in Kate Leopold. [00:33:22] She's just terrific. And uh what a what [00:33:26] a what a just a force of nature that she [00:33:30] brought to the whole enterprise. I mean [00:33:33] and they you know like they have her [00:33:36] sing Moon River, you know, on the fire [00:33:38] escape. It's so romantic. It's just a [00:33:40] just a delicious little treat. And I saw [00:33:43] Shall We Dance the other day, another [00:33:45] movie that I made and I just, you know, [00:33:48] I recommended it to a bunch of friends [00:33:50] and they had a good time watching it. So [00:33:53] some of the, you know, and then then I [00:33:55] try to watch as many new movies as I [00:33:57] can. I can't find the great ones, you [00:34:00] know. I mean, but maybe they don't have [00:34:01] them on my tablet, you know? They don't [00:34:03] they didn't have Nora or The Brutalist [00:34:06] or any of those movies haven't been on [00:34:08] the tablet, but I'm looking forward to [00:34:10] seeing those films. [00:34:12] >> Costs are still rising on everything. [00:34:13] Gas, groceries, home repairs. 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[00:36:42] Second, I would say to myself, [00:36:45] am I entitled to make these movies? Will [00:36:48] I be cancelled? Will I be black balled? [00:36:50] And if I wasn't cancelled and black [00:36:53] balled, you know, I mean, I would make [00:36:54] movies again, you know, I mean, not as [00:36:57] many as I used to make, but I would [00:36:58] certainly make, you know, I have certain [00:37:01] ideas about some of the films that I [00:37:03] would make. I I would certainly [00:37:06] certainly try my best to remake Farewell [00:37:08] to Arms and just make it simple and [00:37:11] elegant. And the actress who plays the [00:37:14] part should be British because she's [00:37:16] British in the book. And the American [00:37:20] actor should be young rather than Rock [00:37:22] Hudson and Jennifer Jones, which was the [00:37:25] last version that that was made. and you [00:37:27] just watch the movie and it's got all [00:37:29] the bare bones of the Hemingway thing, [00:37:31] but the two actors are so miscast that [00:37:35] it's just awful. You I mean, I I would [00:37:38] love to do a simple remake of of an [00:37:40] elegant short Hemingway novel, you know, [00:37:44] and uh and try to to, you know, do [00:37:47] something like that. And then there are [00:37:49] other projects I hope I could do, too. [00:37:51] scripts that I read to try and find out [00:37:54] if they're owned by somebody or owned by [00:37:56] somebody who would help me make them. I [00:37:58] would love to do it again. But if I [00:38:01] can't do it again, just to get out and [00:38:03] be with my children and to be a part of [00:38:06] them. I would and whatever I did [00:38:08] work-wise, that would never be number [00:38:11] one as it used to be. My kids is number [00:38:14] one now. My family is number one because [00:38:17] they're the important thing. I learned [00:38:19] my lesson the hardest way possible. [00:38:22] What's important in life and I sometimes [00:38:25] took that for granted more than [00:38:27] sometimes. A lot I took it for granted. [00:38:30] But I was a good father throughout. The [00:38:32] one thing I can say that people do say [00:38:34] about me was that I was a good father. [00:38:37] But I would be a better father. A lot [00:38:40] better father. [00:38:41] >> That's amazing. But that's what I also [00:38:43] mean when I say that you're still you [00:38:44] like your passion is still there. or you [00:38:46] just you love film and you you just kind [00:38:48] of want to create beautiful films for [00:38:50] people to enjoy and let me tell you it [00:38:52] is desperately needed. Are you reading [00:38:54] any books right now? [00:38:55] >> I'm reading every kind of book in the [00:38:58] world. I've read so hundreds of book I [00:39:00] think I read 300 books in 5 years. [00:39:03] >> Wow. [00:39:03] >> At least. And I just read a book called [00:39:06] Demon Copperhead by Barbara Consolver [00:39:09] about Appalachia and that whole crisis [00:39:12] with the Oxycottton. [00:39:14] And uh and I I'm describing it so [00:39:17] poorly. It's an epic novel. It's a [00:39:19] retelling of the David Copperfield story [00:39:22] only set in America in Appalachia. And [00:39:25] it is absolutely it won the Pullet [00:39:28] Surprise for a reason. It's fantastic. [00:39:31] And uh um uh just I read that and then I [00:39:36] read the classic I read some of the [00:39:38] classics I read in high school again. [00:39:40] But I I read everything. I read Lauren [00:39:43] Michael's biography. I read Graden [00:39:45] Carter's memoir, Barry Diller's memoir, [00:39:48] you know, and then, you know, I read, [00:39:50] you know, classic fiction. I'm reading [00:39:52] The Great Divide about the Panama Canal [00:39:55] and uh and and this historical novel. [00:39:59] So, you're reading all the time. But [00:40:01] speaking of the Pulletzer Committee, I [00:40:04] with the research that that P Clark [00:40:07] Patterson has done on the New York [00:40:09] Times, I'm asking the the and the [00:40:12] research that's been done on Rowan and [00:40:15] Pharaoh's incredibly inaccurate article [00:40:18] in the New Yorker. The Pullet Surprise [00:40:21] should reconsider giving those guys the [00:40:23] PLET surprise. You know, I mean, I hope [00:40:26] they take the research seriously and [00:40:29] read it and just say, "Wait a second. We [00:40:31] should take a look at our decision." [00:40:33] Because those pieces weren't about work. [00:40:35] They were just she said, the woman said, [00:40:38] "This is what happened." And nobody did [00:40:40] any research. Ashley Jud, you know, uh, [00:40:44] he ruined my career. Ruined my career. [00:40:47] She had a fabulous career. And what was [00:40:51] the movie that I ruined her career on? I [00:40:53] was fighting to get her Goodwill Hunting [00:40:55] to be the girl in Goodwill Hunting. [00:40:58] Yeah. I mean, nobody called her agent. [00:41:00] And Clark Patterson points out that the [00:41:02] two reporters from the New York Times [00:41:04] never called Michelle Bohan, who was [00:41:06] Ashley Jud's agent, and said, "Where did [00:41:09] Harvey ruin her career? Where did Mirror [00:41:12] Cervino's career get ruined?" Speak to [00:41:15] the agent. Speak to Warner Brothers. [00:41:18] Speak to a director. Talk to Marty [00:41:20] Scorsesei. Did Harvey say Marty [00:41:22] Scorsesei don't work with Mirror [00:41:24] Cervino? All they had to do was the [00:41:26] research, the backbreaking research. [00:41:29] That is what makes great reporters. What [00:41:32] made Woodward and Bernstein? This isn't [00:41:35] Woodward and Bernstein. As I'll steal [00:41:37] from Clark Patterson, he said they [00:41:39] weren't Woodward and Bernstein. They [00:41:40] were Felma and Louise. [00:41:42] >> Yeah. Well, what I'll tell you, Harvey, [00:41:44] is when you get to really researching [00:41:46] how things work, you'll start to realize [00:41:48] that the the Pulitzer Prize is also a [00:41:50] part of it. It's a it's a part of kind [00:41:51] of gifting these journalists so that [00:41:53] they can go out and do these sorts of [00:41:54] pieces. That is my belief after the [00:41:56] research I've done. I'm actually going [00:41:57] to I'm going to send you a book. Um and [00:41:59] I think you'll find it quite [00:42:00] interesting. You know, just a bit about [00:42:02] Hollywood and how the journalists are [00:42:04] involved and how they've kind of always [00:42:05] been involved in sort of helping to [00:42:07] further these narratives that they knew [00:42:08] were not true. Like I said, they were [00:42:10] never the fourth estate. And um you [00:42:12] know, the Pulitzer Prize has definitely [00:42:14] also always been complicated as well. [00:42:16] The Nobel Peace Prize as well. you know, [00:42:17] we we could get in into politics, but I [00:42:21] think all of that is uh there's a veneer [00:42:23] there that is is starting to crack and [00:42:25] people are starting to realize it. So, I [00:42:26] wouldn't hold your breath for the [00:42:27] Pulitzer to reverse the prize. In fact, [00:42:29] they they award the prizes to the people [00:42:32] that successfully execute these sort of [00:42:34] hit pieces. Case in point, um I was just [00:42:36] covering another journalist who did it [00:42:38] to this like nice Mormon family. [00:42:39] Everything she wrote was deceptive and [00:42:41] then she was awarded with a press award [00:42:42] for it. So, um yeah, don't hold your [00:42:45] breath breath on that one, I would say. [00:42:46] Yeah, I guess not. I guess not. You know [00:42:49] what I mean? One can only wish anyhow. [00:42:53] >> Yeah. Well, look, you're contributing to [00:42:54] it, though. I would say you're helping [00:42:55] people to recognize what it is. And I do [00:42:58] think the future is going to be better. [00:43:00] Uh I I definitely don't want your life [00:43:02] to have have been sacrificed so that the [00:43:04] future could be better and foster these [00:43:05] conversations. But they're happening. [00:43:07] They are happening. And the mainstream [00:43:08] media is failing where independent media [00:43:10] is picking up. It is a different world [00:43:12] than when you went in 100%. [00:43:15] Well, Candace, you know, I mean, I I [00:43:17] face, you know, I mean, there could be a [00:43:19] sentence is, you know, I don't know how [00:43:22] long that sentence can be. So, I face [00:43:24] danger, you know, if that trial isn't [00:43:26] get called a mistrial, you know, I mean, [00:43:30] that that case, you mean that I'm up up [00:43:33] against, you know, we won two of the [00:43:35] three, but we didn't win the third, and [00:43:38] the third is a dangerous case, Miriam H. [00:43:41] So, I don't know. I'm in a period of [00:43:44] just, you know, just not knowing what [00:43:47] what my fate is. And it's just to me [00:43:51] something that I have to do. And it's [00:43:54] not easy to get it done. But I I took a [00:43:58] a lie detector test with Jessica Man. I [00:44:00] sent you or they sent you the results [00:44:04] and I passed with flying colors. I took [00:44:07] a lie detector test on Eugenia at [00:44:09] Chernova, the girl in California. and I [00:44:12] passed with unbelievable the highest you [00:44:15] could get. And I mentioned Sianance who [00:44:18] really went against me, the district [00:44:20] attorney. I used his lie detector person [00:44:23] because I didn't want anybody to say [00:44:25] that I cheated in any way or we used a [00:44:28] lie detector test friendly to us. But [00:44:30] I'm gonna take one on Miriam Hle and and [00:44:33] and I and uh and I'm gonna take one on [00:44:36] her and get that in here so once and for [00:44:39] all people can understand that that [00:44:42] case, you know what I mean, is not true. [00:44:44] You know, I mean, I never assaulted that [00:44:47] woman. Never ever ever in a million [00:44:50] years. But it was worth money to her. [00:44:52] They went after the money and you know I [00:44:55] mean and here I face this incredible [00:44:57] situation that I'm in. But this was for [00:45:00] the money. This was for the money. [00:45:02] Gloria Alred called it reparations. You [00:45:05] know, the other thing with Gloria Alred [00:45:07] Candace is I used her daughter, you [00:45:10] know, I mean, you know, to to work for [00:45:12] me and I and I bought her daughter's [00:45:15] script when I made the Trayvon Martin [00:45:18] documentary because she wrote a [00:45:19] brilliant book about the trial of [00:45:22] Trayvon Martin. And so I, one of the [00:45:25] episodes in the Trayvon Martin [00:45:27] documentary that I made features her [00:45:30] work. And when this thing exploded, her [00:45:34] lawyer was her daughter, Gloria Alred's [00:45:37] daughter, was collateral damage. Gloria [00:45:39] Alred represents Mimi Ha. She's always [00:45:42] there for, you know, right after the [00:45:45] trial. Somehow Miriam H instead of [00:45:47] flying back to where she lives, she [00:45:50] showed up to have a victory lap. Gloria [00:45:52] Alred flew back to New York to have a [00:45:55] victory lab. She's there in the [00:45:57] courtroom. She's just there. It's It's [00:46:00] clear. It's clear. Did I piss off [00:46:03] somebody? Yeah. Amongst others, I pissed [00:46:06] off Gloria Alred in a big way. [00:46:08] >> Yeah. Yeah. I have to say she's someone [00:46:10] that is worthy of an investigation in [00:46:12] and of itself because I'm telling you, [00:46:14] this woman is involved in a way that is [00:46:17] so evidently clear to me. There's just [00:46:18] no way that like Michael Jackson puts [00:46:20] her on a short list and basically says [00:46:22] his whole life is being ruined. I had to [00:46:24] sort of reexamine the facts of that case [00:46:26] and what was happening to him behind the [00:46:27] scenes and every time her name comes up, [00:46:30] it it seems to be that she's involved in [00:46:32] no good. Even her client has spoken out [00:46:34] and said that they were treated terribly [00:46:36] by her uh and that they didn't get the [00:46:38] sense that she was in this because she [00:46:40] wanted justice for the victims, but [00:46:41] rather she was kind of a part, and I'm [00:46:43] paraphrasing here, of a larger [00:46:45] syndicate. Um, and so it she is somebody [00:46:47] that I I'm I'm definitely interested in [00:46:49] and I I hope sooner rather than later [00:46:52] we're able to determine what exactly it [00:46:53] is that she's a part of because it it's [00:46:55] something sinister. There's no question [00:46:56] about it. [00:46:57] >> Well, I'll tell you I'll tell you what I [00:46:59] know of it to be. She says that she's, [00:47:02] you know, for women's rights and [00:47:04] victimhood and the survivors and uses [00:47:07] all the cool language, but when you ask [00:47:09] Mimi H of the $475,000 [00:47:13] that you received, you know, I mean, off [00:47:16] of my back and this trial, you know, I [00:47:19] mean, Mimi said onethird went to Gloria. [00:47:22] Gloria takes between a third and 40% for [00:47:26] every client she has. You know, when [00:47:29] when you talk when they were talking [00:47:31] about getting rid of NDAs, Gloria Alred [00:47:34] was the one who said, "Don't get rid of [00:47:36] NDAs because her practice is full of [00:47:38] it." Somebody says, "I slept with that [00:47:41] corporate CEO." You know, I mean, and [00:47:43] Gloria Alred goes to him and says, [00:47:45] "Sign, you know what I mean? You know, [00:47:47] give us $700,000 [00:47:49] and we'll sign a piece of paper saying [00:47:51] that we uh you won't say anything about [00:47:54] you. We won't tell your wife. We won't [00:47:56] do all the underhanded behind the scenes [00:47:58] stuff is a big part of Gloria's [00:48:01] practice. [00:48:02] >> Yeah. And I don't see how that's not [00:48:03] considered to be extortion in and of [00:48:05] itself. You know, do this or that. Do [00:48:07] this or that. Give me 750K or else. Um, [00:48:11] like I said, that begs a further [00:48:12] investigation. Arby, I know we're [00:48:14] running up against the hour here, so I [00:48:16] want to ask you this. What do you want? [00:48:18] What do you hope your legacy is? [00:48:21] >> That's a big question. Take a second to [00:48:23] answer it. [00:48:24] Um, [00:48:28] in my time I tried to do as well as [00:48:31] having the success that I had, I'm very [00:48:33] proud of the work that I did. We did a [00:48:36] concert with Jim Dolan and John Sykes. [00:48:38] We did the concert for New York and [00:48:40] raised $und00 million for the [00:48:42] firefighters and the widows and the [00:48:45] policemen who were the first defenders [00:48:48] of 9/11. [00:48:50] We did a $77 million concert for Sandy [00:48:53] with Paul McCartney and the Who and Mc [00:48:56] Jagger and the Stones and uh we raised [00:48:59] $77 million for the businesses that got [00:49:03] blown away in Rocka Away in New Jersey [00:49:05] and Bruce Springsteen opened the show. [00:49:07] It was amazing. And uh we were able to [00:49:11] just deliver and deliver the money [00:49:12] quickly because Robin Hood was at the [00:49:15] Robin Hood was the beneficiary of the [00:49:17] money and Robin Hood distributed the [00:49:19] money quickly. I was on the board of [00:49:21] Robin Hood and watched other people, not [00:49:24] me, raised $2.5 billion for children's [00:49:28] charities in New York. And I was on uh I [00:49:32] in I raised $170 million for AMFAR in [00:49:37] Khan with the with the uh events that I [00:49:41] used to organize for the charity. I [00:49:45] don't know, you know, there are others. [00:49:46] The Children of Mandela, I was Glad's [00:49:48] Man of the Year. I tried to I I tried to [00:49:52] have my movies talk about society and [00:49:54] what was going on in a way that wasn't [00:49:57] clobbering people over the head, but [00:49:59] certainly not afraid to make a point and [00:50:01] we were never scared of anything. And I [00:50:04] tried to do good work, you know, good [00:50:07] work on the film making side and I tried [00:50:09] to do good work on the good on the good [00:50:12] side. I just wished I was a better [00:50:14] husband and I wish that I just had the [00:50:18] the non stupidity to just [00:50:23] h how how could I do it? You know I mean [00:50:26] how could I do it? How was I so weak to [00:50:28] just want to be with women who were just [00:50:32] using me and I was using them? It's just [00:50:35] awful to me that a man who had the track [00:50:37] record that I had [00:50:39] >> fell for the oldest sin in the world. [00:50:43] >> That's exactly right. [00:50:44] >> Scary. [00:50:44] >> It is [00:50:45] >> scary. [00:50:46] >> It is. But you you weren't the first and [00:50:48] you certainly weren't won't be the last. [00:50:50] And you hope that people learn that [00:50:51] lesson. They won't learn that lesson. I [00:50:53] promise you there will be another person [00:50:55] that falls to the trap of of young women [00:50:57] and you know not making the right [00:50:59] assessment there in terms of everything [00:51:01] that you have. But, you know, like I [00:51:03] said, I will continue to to pray for [00:51:05] justice in your case. I I really think [00:51:07] it it's a terrifying case to take a look [00:51:08] at if anybody examines it, Harvey, and [00:51:11] we're going to continue to investigate [00:51:13] every element of it up until Gloria [00:51:15] Allred. And I'm going to hope that you [00:51:18] guys are able to, you know, prove what [00:51:20] is obvious here, which is that this [00:51:22] should have been declared a mistrial on [00:51:24] the basis of what the juries the jurors [00:51:26] were saying um in this case, Harvey. And [00:51:28] and so I'm I'm sorry that it is [00:51:30] happening in this way, but I do know [00:51:32] that there is a a greater good that's [00:51:33] happening, which is people are beginning [00:51:35] to ask questions about what the hell is [00:51:36] going on in these courtrooms. [00:51:38] >> Well, you have a great force for good. I [00:51:40] hope some of the people who listen to [00:51:42] your show can write to you and say they [00:51:44] agree with you on the mistrial. When a [00:51:47] jury misbehaves the way the jury [00:51:49] misbehaved in my court case, you know, I [00:51:52] mean, there should be a mistrial. You [00:51:54] know what I mean? Keep those cards and [00:51:56] letters and emails going. I date myself [00:51:59] when I say cards and letters, you know [00:52:01] what I mean? You know, keep those [00:52:03] emails, you know, coming, you know, [00:52:05] because it's important, you know, for me [00:52:08] to read them, you know, and to see the [00:52:11] the that change is coming with it. [00:52:13] Candace, you're a fighter for change and [00:52:15] I appreciate you and thank you. [00:52:17] >> Absolutely. I'm going to send you a [00:52:18] book. You're going to fall down the [00:52:20] Hollywood rabbit hole. I'm going to send [00:52:21] you a book called Chaos. I think you'll [00:52:22] enjoy it. It's about the Manson murders. [00:52:24] It's incredible. The true story of the [00:52:26] Manson Murders. Yeah, I'm going to send [00:52:28] you my book and I've got a book club. [00:52:30] So, maybe we're going to get a [00:52:31] recommendation from you on what book we [00:52:32] should read later this year since you're [00:52:34] reading so many. [00:52:35] >> Um, but you know, Harvey, thank you so [00:52:37] much for trusting me with the story. I [00:52:38] wish I wish you had trusted me sooner [00:52:40] because we could have been covering this [00:52:41] for years. Um, but this is the way it [00:52:44] happened. It's the way God wanted it to [00:52:45] happen and I'm just grateful to have the [00:52:47] opportunity to share this. [00:52:49] >> Thank you, Candace. Thank you so much [00:52:51] for everything. I appreciate it. [00:52:53] appreciate you and congratulations on [00:52:56] the family. [00:52:57] >> Thank you so much. [00:52:58] >> My pleasure. Okay, bye now. [00:53:01] [Music]