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ISRAEL STRIKES IRAN

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[00:00:00] very very inland. I hope people [00:00:02] understand. I mean, that is incredibly [00:00:03] inland. We saw this developing [00:00:05] throughout the night. Well, you know, [00:00:07] their night, but our afternoon we were [00:00:08] like, "This is happening. This is [00:00:10] happening." And it's amazing how many [00:00:11] people who think they actually know [00:00:12] what's going on are like super surprised [00:00:14] on chats like what's happening. I'm [00:00:16] like, "Guys, this is the last couple [00:00:18] hours if you weren't paying attention, [00:00:19] this is what was happening." So, walk us [00:00:21] through the map. Uh Blake Blake, why [00:00:23] don't you do this? We have the map of [00:00:24] Iran on screen here. Just the geography [00:00:27] of the entire region. This was a [00:00:28] multi-hour flight from Israel to Iran. [00:00:31] Blake, this is a major operation. [00:00:33] Please, um, Blake, walk us through it. [00:00:36] Yeah, exactly. So, Iran's not as big as [00:00:38] the United States, but it is a a fairly [00:00:40] large country. I think if you overlaid [00:00:42] it, I think it'd be about the size of [00:00:44] maybe one quarter of the United States, [00:00:46] maybe even one-third of the of like the [00:00:48] continental United States. So, it's a [00:00:49] it's a large country, and it doesn't [00:00:52] border Israel. In fact, you have to fly [00:00:53] over at least two additional countries [00:00:56] to get there. Uh they probably flew over [00:00:58] Jordan and Iraq and it's a long flight. [00:01:02] Uh if you look at that map, you can see [00:01:04] little kind of red cylinders, red [00:01:06] pillars. Those are their uranium [00:01:09] enrichment plants. So that's where [00:01:11] they're taking uranium and they're [00:01:14] running it through centrifuges to make [00:01:15] it enriched uranium, which is what you [00:01:18] would use for a nuclear weapon. And so [00:01:21] those are almost certainly the primary [00:01:23] targets. There are already reports of [00:01:25] explosions there. We will see if those [00:01:27] are confirmed. Uh maybe we'll actually [00:01:29] get video of it eventually. Uh but those [00:01:32] will be the places that you want to hit [00:01:33] if your desire is to take out a nuclear [00:01:36] program, but they're in the mountains. [00:01:38] Uh I believe at least one or both [00:01:40] facilities. They're built underground, [00:01:42] so they're difficult to get to. So [00:01:44] there's been a lot of talk about how [00:01:45] this would unfold because the US has [00:01:48] some very heavy, we call them bunker [00:01:50] busting munitions. They're designed to [00:01:52] pulverize very deep underground [00:01:55] facilities, but Israel doesn't have [00:01:58] access to those weapons and we've been [00:02:00] hesitant to supply them or give them any [00:02:02] access to them. And so, if we're not [00:02:04] involved in this, there's been talk that [00:02:06] Israel may have to modify its plans. [00:02:08] They may have to strike it several times [00:02:10] so they could strike it, see if there's [00:02:11] any damage, do follow-up hits, and so [00:02:14] on. But these are difficult places to [00:02:16] reach. They would be flying several [00:02:19] probably about two or three hours to get [00:02:21] there and then a similar amount of time [00:02:23] to get back. Uh they're deep inside [00:02:25] Iranian airspace. They are presumably [00:02:29] well defended. So we may learn maybe [00:02:33] whether any planes were shot down or [00:02:34] whether there's any attempt to shoot [00:02:36] them down. We're going to be seeing this [00:02:38] all unfold very quickly. Uh you know [00:02:40] this is breaking news all within the [00:02:42] last 20 minutes. [00:02:45] And so, so Jack, help help everyone in [00:02:47] the audience understand kind of the [00:02:48] timeline here. I mean, on on Sunday, [00:02:51] there were supposed to be more talks. [00:02:52] Why did Israel strike even though there [00:02:54] were more talks between the United [00:02:56] States and Iran and kind of short [00:02:58] circuit that? Please. I mean, Jack, tell [00:03:00] us this is a little confusing to our [00:03:02] audience. [00:03:04] Well, Charlie, as we've seen from [00:03:06] President Trump, uh, President Trump was [00:03:08] very explicit on this and al even back [00:03:11] in April when Prime Minister Netanyahu [00:03:14] came to the White House and was really [00:03:17] pushing for strikes on Iran to be [00:03:21] conducted jointly between the United [00:03:23] States and Israel. Uh, this those [00:03:26] strikes of course were rejected by [00:03:28] President Trump. that plan was rejected [00:03:30] and it was reported that there were some [00:03:31] other elements of the uh of the [00:03:34] administration or at least the US [00:03:36] government at large that were also [00:03:38] working on planning those potential [00:03:40] strikes. Uh this has been something that [00:03:42] Israel has wanted for a long time. [00:03:44] Strikes on the nuclear program. [00:03:45] Obviously they've been targeting their [00:03:46] nuclear programs uh for a decade plus at [00:03:49] this point ever since they embarked on [00:03:52] it in the first place. Of course, this [00:03:54] is all about uranium enrichment. And [00:03:56] this has become the sort of a jump ball [00:03:58] between what you're seeing with the [00:04:00] neocons and the more uh I would say the [00:04:03] the anti-war crowd out there. One crowd [00:04:06] pointing to saying, well, wait, there is [00:04:08] no nuclear weapons program in Iran. The [00:04:10] neocons's pointing to well, there's this [00:04:12] continued uranium enrichment which could [00:04:14] potentially be used for nuclear weapons [00:04:17] even if there isn't a nuclear weapons [00:04:19] program. And so this being the impetus [00:04:22] for wanting to have a preemptive strike [00:04:24] as we're seeing right now. And of course [00:04:26] the political situation in Israel [00:04:28] obviously quite chaotic given everything [00:04:30] that's gone on since the end of the [00:04:31] ceasefire back in March between Israel [00:04:34] and Gaza, the situation with the Hamas [00:04:36] terrorists going on, the ongoing war [00:04:39] there. So a lot of chaos in their [00:04:41] internal politics as well. even a uh a [00:04:44] vote on potential early elections that [00:04:46] took place just last night in the [00:04:48] Knesset in Israel which Netanyahu [00:04:50] survived but I believe by less than 10 [00:04:53] votes out of the 120 member here's what [00:04:56] I don't understand is that I'm not an [00:04:57] expert though [00:04:59] so but I we we don't yet know where all [00:05:01] the strikes are we are seeing here on [00:05:04] understand is that an expert though they [00:05:06] why am I hearing myself back like five [00:05:08] seconds later hold on okay so why why [00:05:11] are they striking tan [00:05:13] on the map. There's no nuclear [00:05:15] facilities in Tran. Am I mistaken here? [00:05:17] Oh, there are there's a research [00:05:19] reactor. Reactor. Okay, got it. So, and [00:05:22] who knows, but striking the capital [00:05:24] seems to be a major escalation. Blake. [00:05:26] Yeah, I don't want to presume. There [00:05:28] could be any number of reasons. It could [00:05:30] be that there are military facilities [00:05:32] there they want to hit. So, that could [00:05:34] be like elements of their military [00:05:35] command structure. Maybe that's where [00:05:37] some of their like fighters are based or [00:05:39] their like air defenses. So there's any [00:05:42] number of reasons they could hit it [00:05:43] because presumably they're banking on [00:05:46] even if they want to strike the nuclear [00:05:48] targets, there's so many potential [00:05:51] complications to this depending on how [00:05:53] Iran chooses to strike back, whether [00:05:56] they choose to strike back, that it'd be [00:05:58] highly unlikely that the only thing they [00:06:00] would hit would be just the nuclear [00:06:03] sites. And so I don't know what they [00:06:06] would be aiming at, but there's any [00:06:07] number of possible reasons they would go [00:06:09] for it. [00:06:12] Okay, so this is happening uh live right [00:06:14] now. For those of you that just tuning [00:06:15] in, uh Israel has launched preemptive [00:06:18] military strikes on the interior of Iran [00:06:20] against nuclear reactors. So Jack, I [00:06:23] want to throw this to you as from an [00:06:24] intel standpoint. Um you could kind of [00:06:26] see this building yesterday. You saw Tom [00:06:28] Cotton and Lindsey Graham say, "Hey, you [00:06:31] know, are they close to a um a bomb in [00:06:34] Iran? Are they close to a bomb in Iran?" [00:06:36] The skeptics would say that well we've [00:06:38] been hearing that for the last 30 years [00:06:40] that Iran is close to a nuclear weapon [00:06:42] close to a nuclear weapon. So so Jack as [00:06:45] from an intel standpoint was Iran close [00:06:47] to nuclear weapon. Now the way it the [00:06:49] question of is doesn't really mean [00:06:51] anything. So tell us you know what what [00:06:54] is really going on here and can we trust [00:06:56] the intel agencies? [00:06:59] Well, Charlie, this of course has been a [00:07:01] one of the most uh fractured debates [00:07:04] that's gone on from the intel community [00:07:06] and uh members of the US political [00:07:09] community as well as the Israeli [00:07:11] political community as I mentioned [00:07:12] before with uh Prime Minister Netanyahu [00:07:15] really pushing for these strikes of [00:07:16] course for quite some time uh years in [00:07:19] many cases and has directly targeted [00:07:20] these facilities uh with variety of [00:07:22] cyber attacks and other attacks over the [00:07:24] years. The question comes down to and [00:07:27] the intel community's official [00:07:28] assessment. Everyone I've talked to in [00:07:30] the intel community has always and and [00:07:32] even from my time there has said that [00:07:34] Iran did not have an active weapons of [00:07:38] mass destruction program in the sense [00:07:41] that uh you know in in the sense of [00:07:44] having a a actual nuclear weapons [00:07:46] program. But what they were doing was [00:07:47] this uranium enrichment and this the end [00:07:50] of question of course and even by the [00:07:52] way even DNI Gabbard who many people [00:07:54] pointed to say that's obviously she's no [00:07:56] hawk even she pointed out that their [00:07:59] uranium enrichment was much higher at a [00:08:01] much higher yield than anyone would need [00:08:04] for only a uh a fuel program or only for [00:08:07] nuclear energy. And so a lot of the war [00:08:09] hawks have been pointing to that saying, [00:08:11] look, it's clear that they're going to [00:08:12] do this in order to uh in order to try [00:08:15] to ratchet up their their ability for um [00:08:19] their ability for escalation. And so one [00:08:21] of the things though that people have [00:08:23] pointed to is say, well, Iran, you know, [00:08:25] back the back and forth has always been, [00:08:26] well, Iran was doing that because there [00:08:28] is no Iran deal. Trump of course ended [00:08:31] Obama's Iran deal that which was a total [00:08:33] uh total handoff to them back in 2018. [00:08:36] he ends this thing after the pallets of [00:08:38] cash and he had run on it of course back [00:08:41] in 2016 the Obama uh deal and and so [00:08:45] after ending that deal that's really [00:08:47] when Iran pushed towards this enrichment [00:08:50] to say we're going to essentially kind [00:08:52] of have a middle ground of saying well [00:08:54] we're not start restarting the program [00:08:56] but we are enriching this uranium which [00:08:59] of course puts them in a situation to [00:09:00] say well they could would potentially be [00:09:02] able if they chose to use that in a [00:09:05] weapon at any time. That being said [00:09:07] though, um you know, that's that's my [00:09:10] distillation of the intel on both sides [00:09:12] there. That being said, we do know that [00:09:15] Iran had been and it seems in good faith [00:09:17] conducting these negotiations with Steve [00:09:19] Whit uh having meetings with him as [00:09:22] appointed by President Trump. We saw [00:09:24] President Trump earlier today saying [00:09:26] that he had directed all members of his [00:09:29] administration to pursue negotiations [00:09:31] and diplomatic means of working with [00:09:34] Iran to end this uh to end this [00:09:37] potential threat and prevent of course [00:09:39] prevent Iran from getting a nuclear [00:09:41] weapon. And something where you've also [00:09:43] seen in reports I believe the Guardian [00:09:44] had actually put out at one point that [00:09:46] there were there was a potential for [00:09:48] Russia to come in and be the guarantor [00:09:50] of this program. And Russia, of course, [00:09:52] being the country that finished the [00:09:54] building of the Busher nuclear power [00:09:55] plant, which we had on the map a minute [00:09:57] ago, that's there on the coast. That is [00:09:59] their completed nuclear power plant, the [00:10:01] only one uh functional within Iran right [00:10:03] now. It needs that water source. Can't [00:10:04] really be in the mountains or the [00:10:06] desert. And so this had been a potential [00:10:10] triangulation, if you will, of the [00:10:12] negotiations between Ukraine, Russia, [00:10:15] Israel, and Iran to say if the Russians [00:10:19] were able to come in, uh this would be [00:10:21] something that Obama's Iran deal had [00:10:23] never considered. Although it is kind of [00:10:25] similar to one of the Syria deals prior [00:10:27] to the red line back in 2013 where [00:10:29] Russia came in and was the guarantor of [00:10:31] Syria's chemical weapons. Uh China also [00:10:34] played a small role in that. And so [00:10:36] there was a really a lot of potential [00:10:38] for talk regarding this. Now of course [00:10:41] it remains to be seen what what will [00:10:43] happen because we don't know what the [00:10:45] fallout will be both locally from again [00:10:48] whether or not these facilities were [00:10:50] destroyed. Uh I think there are a lot of [00:10:52] questions as to whether or not Israel [00:10:53] had the capability of actually being [00:10:55] able to really take out the program [00:10:57] given the fact that they are [00:10:58] underground. Blake was mentioning that [00:11:00] Israel doesn't have the bunker buster [00:11:01] bombs that the US has to be able to go [00:11:03] after those underground facilities. And [00:11:06] then of course whether or not Iran [00:11:07] decides to blame the United States or [00:11:09] claim this is some kind of proxy attack [00:11:11] and cancel the negotiations. So a lot of [00:11:14] that is going to be up in the air uh [00:11:17] just as the Israeli jets are up in the [00:11:19] air right now over Iran. [00:11:22] This is this has such incredible [00:11:24] geopolitical implications here. Blake on [00:11:26] the ground. what is going on in Israel [00:11:28] and do we know the the the breadth or [00:11:31] the depth or the scale of these military [00:11:34] strikes and walk our audience through [00:11:36] exactly the technical side of what just [00:11:39] happened probably what's happening right [00:11:40] now there are probably jets still right [00:11:42] now we know this certainly in the air [00:11:44] that are coming back from Israel and we [00:11:46] kind of saw this happening real time in [00:11:48] our group chats were like oh there are [00:11:50] sources that hear jets over Iraq there [00:11:52] are sources I mean and we kind of had a [00:11:54] little bit more of a heads up than that [00:11:56] and Blake Before you do that, everybody [00:11:57] watching, I want to hear from you. [00:11:58] Freedom charliekirk.com. Do you support [00:12:01] Israel striking Iran preemptively? I [00:12:03] want to hear from you. Freedom at [00:12:05] charliekirk.com. We're very interested. [00:12:07] Freedom charliekirk.com. Blake, your [00:12:09] thoughts. Okay. Yeah. So, first of all, [00:12:12] for if you want the absolute breaking [00:12:14] stuff, I'm monitoring um Israeli news [00:12:16] sites uh the Jerusalem Post Harts. Those [00:12:18] are going to be where you get any info [00:12:20] from the Israeli government, the IDF as [00:12:23] quickly as possible. Also, of course, on [00:12:25] X, it was very funny how, you know, we [00:12:27] were seeing on X, oh, reports of planes [00:12:29] flying, reports of explosions, and then [00:12:32] I'm looking at the New York Times, I'm [00:12:33] looking at CNN. It takes them ages to [00:12:36] catch up to the basics that something is [00:12:38] happening. Are you kidding me? And yeah, [00:12:39] yeah, we were I think we were live [00:12:40] before CNN even had a little, you know, [00:12:43] thing up top. But I want to read what's [00:12:45] uh Jerusalem Post has kind of a breaking [00:12:48] steadily updated thing where they're [00:12:50] getting the info from the IDF, the [00:12:52] Israeli Defense Forces. And so what they [00:12:55] say is first of all, there are warning [00:12:56] sirens have been set off to get the [00:12:58] public ready for a potential Iranian [00:13:00] counterattack. No ballistic missiles [00:13:02] have been fired yet, but there are [00:13:03] thousands of them according to the IDF. [00:13:06] So this is their justification for [00:13:08] action. They said that Iran had enough [00:13:10] uranium to weaponize it to nuclear [00:13:12] levels to make 15 nuclear weapons within [00:13:15] days. This is what the IDF says. In [00:13:18] recent days, they say Iran developed a [00:13:21] plan with Hezbollah and Hamas and other [00:13:23] proxies to destroy the state of Israel, [00:13:26] potentially including attempts to attack [00:13:28] via all borders, including Egypt and [00:13:31] Jordan. The IDF says this was quote a [00:13:34] point of no return. Uh Benjamin [00:13:38] Netanyahu has entered the security [00:13:40] cabinet. They're having some high stakes [00:13:42] meeting of the cabinet. It says the I [00:13:44] this might be uh answering your question [00:13:45] about why they would hit Tran. IDF [00:13:48] targets uh include commanders, bases as [00:13:51] well as nuclear sites, though the main [00:13:53] goal is the nuclear sites. Uh the IDF [00:13:56] claims they believe Iran was taken by [00:13:58] surprise and was attacked in places they [00:14:01] did not expect. that would potentially [00:14:04] answer the question of why they would do [00:14:05] it now rather than waiting through the [00:14:07] weekend. There there might have been an [00:14:09] element that they had already given up [00:14:11] on the process but they didn't want to [00:14:12] tip their hand that they had given up by [00:14:15] waiting for negotiations over the [00:14:17] weekend to fail. Uh and then Jerusalem [00:14:21] Post continues here. Israel has had [00:14:23] strong coordination with the US, but [00:14:26] Israeli military officials refused to [00:14:28] say whether America was pre-updated or [00:14:31] fully coordinated into the current [00:14:33] attack. [00:14:35] Um, and that's all the relevant info we [00:14:38] have now. And, uh, they're just they're [00:14:39] constantly adding to this. So, I think [00:14:41] this is statements that are coming from [00:14:42] an IDF person as we speak. And it's [00:14:46] middle of the night there. So, this is [00:14:48] all unfolding. But, help help me [00:14:50] understand though. I I want Blake help [00:14:52] me understand this. So negotiations were [00:14:54] going on. This is the just the news [00:14:55] headline. This is not Charlie Kirk's [00:14:57] opinion. This is just the news from John [00:14:59] Solomon. Just the news headline is this [00:15:01] which is Israel launches attack on Iran [00:15:04] in defiance of Trump's urgings. So help [00:15:07] me like understand. It seems like [00:15:09] negotiations were going on. Do we even [00:15:11] know enough about that? So help like [00:15:14] basically fill in the blanks here. So, I [00:15:17] believe Trump Trump had said like there [00:15:19] was some sort of deadline to make a deal [00:15:21] I think a few months ago and that [00:15:23] deadline was right around now or maybe [00:15:26] it even just passed. But Trump has [00:15:28] always been I mean we know Trump is a [00:15:31] pro peace guy. He'll always say Iran [00:15:33] can't have a nuclear weapon. He is not [00:15:35] willing to allow that to happen. But [00:15:37] he's he's Trump the dealmaker. He's [00:15:39] always going around saying I am want to [00:15:42] make a deal. I'm ready to make a deal. [00:15:44] I'm hopeful for making a deal. and we [00:15:46] saw it just today, he's saying, "I'm [00:15:48] committed to reaching a diplomatic [00:15:50] resolution of this." Now, him saying it [00:15:53] today, there's a couple possible [00:15:55] interpretations. One is he genuinely was [00:15:58] still seeking that deal and, you know, [00:16:01] was trying to message, "Please make the [00:16:03] deal before something happens." Or [00:16:06] there's the possibility they already [00:16:08] knew this was going to happen, but they [00:16:10] wanted to signal communicate that [00:16:12] America is not directly involved. And [00:16:15] we've seen several attempts to [00:16:18] communicate that uh just before the [00:16:20] strikes happened. I believe um Axios I [00:16:23] think was reporting that there was [00:16:25] communication someone in the White House [00:16:27] I think Wickoff said you know the White [00:16:29] House has [00:16:31] disassociated itself from any Israeli [00:16:33] attempt like they might know about it [00:16:35] but they're not cooperating with it. So [00:16:38] whether that's true or not, I think [00:16:40] we're certainly going to see the US [00:16:42] government claim that we were not [00:16:44] involved in this because obviously once [00:16:48] this has happened, our biggest concern [00:16:49] is our biggest concern is are American [00:16:52] troops in Iraq, in Kuwait, in Saudi [00:16:54] Arabia, and whatever bases we have in [00:16:56] the Middle East, are they going to be in [00:16:58] danger of of being hit? [00:17:02] And and so what what does what does the [00:17:04] retaliation then look like? But we got [00:17:06] Tyler Boyer in the chair here, which I [00:17:07] actually want to ask the political [00:17:08] question of Tyler next cuz I am I'm also [00:17:11] this is going to schism terribly online. [00:17:13] I mean, you are going to see I don't [00:17:15] want to say a MAGA civil war, but it's [00:17:17] going to be a MAGA online food fight in [00:17:20] the likes of which um is going to be [00:17:22] very very hard to navigate. We we saw [00:17:24] this coming, but apparently that was not [00:17:27] um as important and that's fine. Maybe [00:17:29] there's stuff that we don't know. But [00:17:30] but Jack, what how could Iran respond? [00:17:33] And what do you have to say, Jack, to [00:17:35] this idea that there might be Iranian [00:17:37] sleeper cells in America that Joe Biden [00:17:41] allowed in the country? We had 10 [00:17:42] million people come into the country. [00:17:44] Are there Iranian sleeper cells right [00:17:46] now in America that then could be [00:17:48] activated by the Mullis? [00:17:51] Well, Charlie, of course, the the answer [00:17:52] is yes. That that could Iran have gotten [00:17:55] sleeper cells in the United States? I [00:17:57] think that's increasingly likely and and [00:17:59] almost certainly they have operatives [00:18:02] within the United States. Also, Iran is [00:18:04] famous for uh having the IRGC or Cuds [00:18:08] force. This was uh formerly head by [00:18:10] headed by Sulammani. Uh that they will [00:18:12] pay operatives who are already in areas [00:18:16] uh that they can't get into themselves [00:18:17] to conduct uh conduct attacks or conduct [00:18:20] sabotage type operations. Look, we just [00:18:22] saw the Ukrainians uh launch this huge [00:18:24] kamicazi drone kamicazi style drone [00:18:27] attack deep within Russian territory. It [00:18:29] would be very easy for Iran to do [00:18:32] something like that or to have smuggled [00:18:33] such types of things across the US [00:18:35] border in the Biden years where there [00:18:37] was no operational control of vast [00:18:39] swaths of the US border other than by [00:18:41] the cartels. Uh so it'd be it'd be very [00:18:44] simple for them to just pay the cartels [00:18:45] to allow them to do such a thing. Um, [00:18:47] when it comes to direct retaliation [00:18:50] though, I think more than likely at this [00:18:52] point unless unless more information [00:18:54] comes in at this point. It seems as [00:18:56] though their retaliation will be [00:18:59] directly and solely against Israel. Uh, [00:19:02] remains to be seen. Of course, if they [00:19:04] wish to strike any US forces within the [00:19:07] region, they certainly can. They have [00:19:08] the capability to do so. Uh, they have a [00:19:11] robust ballistic missile program. They [00:19:13] have two, by the way, they have two [00:19:14] militaries in Iran. the uh regular the [00:19:17] nominal Iranian forces, their regulars [00:19:19] as well as the IRGC, the Iranian [00:19:21] Revolutionary Guard Corps. Those are the [00:19:23] forces that are directly uh directly [00:19:26] subordinated subordinated to the [00:19:28] Ayatollah. So those are the Ayatollah's [00:19:30] forces and the country's forces. It's a [00:19:32] little bit different uh than we do in [00:19:34] the United States as it would be, but uh [00:19:37] certainly they have ballistic missile [00:19:38] capability and I would expect that that [00:19:40] is what they use again in strikes on [00:19:43] Israel. Um, obviously we'll see. You [00:19:46] know, I think Israeli Air Force bases [00:19:48] potentially, whatever bases were used to [00:19:49] conduct this strike would probably be [00:19:51] the most likely attacks. [00:19:54] So, Tyler, let let's talk. I mean, we're [00:19:55] we're monitoring the situation in real [00:19:57] time. Actually, let me just check one of [00:19:58] my sources here. Okay, this is one of my [00:20:01] sources who has Jack, how right were my [00:20:03] sources today? [00:20:05] Uh, Charlie, you you they were I would [00:20:08] say down to the minutes. Down to the [00:20:11] exact minute. Um, so if you guys you [00:20:14] guys can watch all the chattering people [00:20:15] on TV, but we have good sources here. [00:20:17] Yeah. Um, this seems to be like an [00:20:20] allout attack and possibly the start of [00:20:23] another regional war. That is what I am. [00:20:26] Um, that's what again you guys can say [00:20:28] that's not true, but this is from very [00:20:31] very good intel. I mean, I'm seeing here [00:20:33] that uh Jerusalem Post just continues to [00:20:35] update and they say there are mixed [00:20:37] reports of a possibility that Israel has [00:20:40] targeted Iran's chief of staff. That [00:20:42] would be presumably [00:20:44] uh I think I've got his name here, [00:20:46] General Muhammad. [00:20:49] General Muhammad Baryi, chief of staff. [00:20:51] That would be the basically the top [00:20:53] general, you know, like Millie was chief [00:20:54] of staff uh under Biden. I can't [00:20:56] remember who our chief of staff is right [00:20:57] now. Um but like top general. So if [00:21:01] you're trying to decapitate the top of [00:21:03] their military, you've moved beyond just [00:21:06] a limited strike on their nuclear sites [00:21:09] and you are attempting to hobble their [00:21:11] entire military. We need to confirm [00:21:13] that. We need to confirm that. Yes, we [00:21:16] don't know that for sure. This is a [00:21:17] report, mixed reports from Jerusalem [00:21:19] Post. So they're presumably drawing on [00:21:21] Israeli sources what the IDF is saying. [00:21:23] Not confirmed. There's going to be, [00:21:25] let's just say from from the get-go, [00:21:27] we're in a fog of war situation. Uh [00:21:29] we're receiving this information as much [00:21:31] as anybody else. Uh people know people [00:21:34] know who Charlie is. People know who I [00:21:35] am. People know who we know. But that [00:21:37] being said, uh everyone is in the fog of [00:21:40] war on this situation. So just caveat [00:21:42] everything and and we'll do our best. [00:21:44] We'll do our our level best. And if [00:21:45] there's anything that we put out that [00:21:48] ends up being uh being corrected, we'll [00:21:50] certainly make sure to be able to update [00:21:51] that as well. So we're drinking from the [00:21:53] fire hose just as much as everybody else [00:21:54] trying to make sense of this out there. [00:21:57] So yeah, the senior Israeli officials [00:21:59] said high probability that Iran's chief [00:22:00] of staff was eliminated and that Israel [00:22:02] began this attack with direct [00:22:04] elimination of many IRGC commanders. [00:22:07] This is not just a targeted attack [00:22:09] against nuclear facilities based on what [00:22:10] we are reading. This seems like uh [00:22:13] Israel that is calling the bluff against [00:22:15] Iran. And the question is guys, [00:22:18] is this going to drag America into a war [00:22:20] against Iran? [00:22:22] And who wants to take that one? And [00:22:24] that's and that's the real question. I [00:22:25] mean that I think the debate's already [00:22:27] started. It's it's pretty much a [00:22:28] wildfire on X which is you know if [00:22:32] there's one thing if you could probably [00:22:33] sum up President Trump's campaign uh [00:22:36] from 2024 it was that electing me is [00:22:39] going to prevent World War II that I [00:22:42] mean is that fair to say with the the [00:22:44] conversation with Kamla? And so this was [00:22:48] one of the biggest promises if not the [00:22:50] biggest promise of the campaign is with [00:22:52] me you get less war. I'm I'm an anti-war [00:22:54] president. I'm I'm a guy that makes sure [00:22:58] that conflict does not happen across the [00:23:00] world. I'm looking for the best and most [00:23:01] reasonable uh deal to make. I'm the deal [00:23:05] guy. And you know, right now, we kind of [00:23:08] went into this week going, "Well, if [00:23:09] President Trump isn't strong enough with [00:23:12] the the riers in LA, that's going to be [00:23:16] problematic." If President Trump is not [00:23:18] strong enough on the border, we've known [00:23:20] this all throughout um and and and [00:23:22] provides any kind of amnesty to illegals [00:23:25] and to the anti-American protesters that [00:23:29] we've we've seen in California, that's [00:23:30] going to be a problem. Uh but war with [00:23:33] Iran, I would I would argue, is going to [00:23:37] spin out into something here that's much [00:23:39] bigger than what I think we even are are [00:23:43] realizing right now. But they're going [00:23:44] to try to blame Trump for war regardless [00:23:48] of how hard he fights against it. [00:23:51] Uh Israel has also struck in Iran in [00:23:53] Yemen just so we are clear. So this is [00:23:56] uh multi-reional is what it looks like. [00:24:00] Oh boy. Great. Speaker Johnson yesterday [00:24:03] uh announced he's actually going to be [00:24:04] addressing the Israeli Knesset on June [00:24:07] 22nd. Uh so so let me ask the audience [00:24:11] just 10 days from now. Email us [00:24:12] [email protected] if it's true [00:24:15] if it's true and if it's true that [00:24:18] Israel is striking Iran more than just [00:24:23] nuclear facilities and they're going [00:24:25] after chief of staff. According to air [00:24:27] safari who's very very well respected [00:24:30] and is very well sourced. He says quote [00:24:33] high probability that Iran's chief of [00:24:34] staff was eliminated. Iran began this [00:24:36] attack with the direct elimination of [00:24:38] many IRGC commanders. [00:24:41] So, if it is more than just [00:24:44] um targeting Iranian nuclear facilities, [00:24:48] does that change your level of support? [00:24:49] Uh, email us freedom charliekirk.com. [00:24:51] Breaking news from Reuters. Iran's [00:24:53] leadership holds top security meeting, [00:24:55] senior Iranian official to Reuters. Uh, [00:24:58] they are planning an all-out response. [00:25:00] And now I have the second person that is [00:25:02] predicting uh this is going to be a [00:25:05] regional war. quote, "But Gary is second [00:25:07] in command after Quaameni." Uh, and it's [00:25:11] very possible that um the Israel attacks [00:25:14] took him out tonight, man. Holding a [00:25:17] meeting. I hope they're holding it via [00:25:18] Zoom because I feel like I always read [00:25:20] about these meetings getting blown up. [00:25:23] Uh, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, second in [00:25:26] command under and like they're saying [00:25:27] second in command under the Supreme [00:25:28] Leader who is a religious cleric. He's [00:25:31] not a military commander. Um and just [00:25:34] because we've repeated it, IRGC is the [00:25:36] Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. So [00:25:39] main the big main unit of their military [00:25:41] I believe. [00:25:43] So just so we are clear um like taking [00:25:46] out um Berry Bajerry sorry would be the [00:25:49] equivalent of assassinating JD Vance and [00:25:52] Susie Wilds together. That's essentially [00:25:56] how the Iranian government works to the [00:25:58] best of our understanding. that would be [00:26:00] like the combined [00:26:02] um lethality. [00:26:04] So uh the IDF spokesperson has just said [00:26:06] quote the IDF launched a preemptive [00:26:08] strike to damage the Iranian nuclear [00:26:10] program. Dozens of air force aircraft [00:26:12] recently completed the on opening strike [00:26:14] opening strike. Um the public must obey [00:26:17] the homeront commands. Iran has been a [00:26:20] threat for quite some time [00:26:23] and uh looks like oh they they they went [00:26:25] after that more than just nuclear [00:26:27] facilities. [00:26:30] So, how do we how do we think the Trump [00:26:34] uh Netany and Yahoo relations are [00:26:38] where we are right now? Do we look [00:26:39] there's there's going to be I mean [00:26:41] there's going to be hell to pay. Yeah. [00:26:44] If this was done in defiance of Trump. [00:26:46] Well, that's the question. We're seeing [00:26:48] that that's he came out very publicly [00:26:50] today and said negotiations, [00:26:53] negotiations, negotiations. And so the [00:26:58] question is, is BB Netanyahu thinking of [00:27:00] his political calculus in terms of his [00:27:03] survival as prime minister of Israel? [00:27:07] And is he putting that ahead of the [00:27:09] security interests of the Middle East, [00:27:12] his own people, by the way, uh, all of [00:27:14] Israel, and the entire stability of the [00:27:18] region, not to mention what it would do [00:27:20] to the fallout of oil price. Here we are [00:27:22] at the beginning of of summer, folks. [00:27:23] beginning of summer and we've got a war [00:27:26] kicking off in the Middle East which has [00:27:29] and if these indications are true has [00:27:31] all the hallmarks of something that [00:27:34] could incite a wider regional war. What [00:27:36] do you think that's going to do to gas [00:27:38] prices to supplies to everything else as [00:27:41] we look at the very beginning of the [00:27:43] summer? Uh certainly this is not uh this [00:27:47] is not what and and yeah, Israeli media [00:27:50] is now again Israeli media is saying [00:27:53] that this was coordinated with the [00:27:55] United States. Uh let's I'm going to [00:27:57] wait to hear from our own president of [00:27:59] the United States when it comes to [00:28:01] something like that. But of course that [00:28:03] is what they're putting out right now. [00:28:05] Again, we just saw President Trump a few [00:28:08] hours ago say negotiations and of course [00:28:11] there was a lot of reporting. Uh P. [00:28:14] Yeah, that's true. They're just getting [00:28:16] this as IP, but it could be. So this is [00:28:19] this is Secretary of State Marco Rubio [00:28:21] who says the following. Tonight, Israel [00:28:23] took unilateral action against Iran. We [00:28:26] are not involved in the strikes against [00:28:27] Iran and our top priority is protecting [00:28:30] American forces in the region. Israel [00:28:32] advised us that they believed this was [00:28:33] necessary for its self-defense. [00:28:35] President Trump and the administration [00:28:36] taken all necessary steps to protect our [00:28:38] forces and remain in close contact with [00:28:40] regional partners. Let me be clear, Iran [00:28:42] should not target US interests or [00:28:44] personnel. All being said, that is a [00:28:46] very very neutral statement from Marco [00:28:48] Rubio. I um that was not a a supportive [00:28:52] statement at all by the way. That was in [00:28:53] fact that is not a distance. So what [00:28:57] he's trying to do is put distance [00:28:59] between the United States. Look, the [00:29:00] United States has 40 to 50,000 uh troops [00:29:03] in the middle the Middle East at large. [00:29:05] Uh so not Yes, we of course we have [00:29:07] combat troops on and and a variety of [00:29:09] troops on the ground in Iraq and Syria, [00:29:12] but of course we have troops all over [00:29:15] the Persian Gulf. Of course, DoD calls [00:29:17] it the the Arabian Gulf, but I'm not in [00:29:19] uniform right now, so I'm going to say [00:29:20] Persian Gulf because that's what most [00:29:21] people know. And uh and a variety a [00:29:25] variety of t of targets right across the [00:29:27] Gulf. when you're talking about Qatar, [00:29:29] when you're talking about our troops in [00:29:30] Bahrain, our troops in Jordan, our [00:29:32] troops in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, [00:29:35] um just just all over the place. All [00:29:37] over the place. Not to mention, I [00:29:38] believe the Carl Vincent aircraft [00:29:40] carrier, the carrier battle group is [00:29:42] there and uh the Truman is certainly [00:29:44] within the region as well. Plus, we know [00:29:46] that back in April during these uh the [00:29:51] Houthi strikes when all that was going [00:29:52] on, there were B2 bombers that were [00:29:55] flown to Diego Garcia. Now, that's not [00:29:57] within range of Iran, but of course, [00:29:58] there were a lot of people saying that [00:30:00] those bombers could potentially be used [00:30:02] if a wider regional war were to break [00:30:04] out. And well, we could be looking at [00:30:06] the very beginning of a wider regional [00:30:09] war right now. [00:30:12] And you got to believe with that there's [00:30:14] uh Yeah, Tyler, go ahead. I was just [00:30:15] going to say that response from Marco [00:30:17] Rubio. I mean, Marco Rubio historically [00:30:19] has not been a person to shy away from, [00:30:21] you know, in over his the course of his [00:30:23] long career from neoy type, you know, [00:30:27] excitement. It's happened in the past [00:30:29] with him. And so for him to come out [00:30:31] and, you know, obviously he's a changed [00:30:33] man. He's he's a lot of a different guy [00:30:35] today than he was then. But for him to [00:30:37] come out and and and make that very [00:30:39] clear statement, I think is reassuring [00:30:41] for a lot of Trump supporters who are [00:30:43] listening to this. And I hope that [00:30:45] that's the case for most that are [00:30:47] watching this is that the president has [00:30:49] made a commitment and I don't think they [00:30:51] would come out that rapidly that that [00:30:52] fast with that statement if that wasn't [00:30:55] true. Sorry, Charlie. So, no, it's fine. [00:30:58] Um, I I want everyone to email us [00:31:00] freedom charlariekirk.com. So, here's [00:31:02] the sequence that I'm most afraid of. [00:31:04] Let me walk you through it. Israel [00:31:05] strikes. Iran retaliates big time. There [00:31:08] is a regional war. The US is then [00:31:10] pressured to send more aid to Israel. [00:31:13] MAGA will likely resist sending more aid [00:31:16] to Israel based on the emails that I'm [00:31:18] getting right now. And I want to hear [00:31:20] from you guys. Freedom [00:31:21] charlariekirk.com. By the way, there are [00:31:23] initial reports, it's fog of war, that a [00:31:25] high-rise apartment um has seen [00:31:28] partially collapsed in the Iranian uh [00:31:30] capital of Tran. Initial reports of [00:31:33] missiles launched by Iran towards [00:31:35] Israel. [00:31:36] So the question is, do you guys support [00:31:38] sending US money and military aid to [00:31:41] Israel? Email us [00:31:42] [email protected]. We're [00:31:43] getting thousands of emails. I want to [00:31:45] read I want to read them. I want to [00:31:46] analyze what you're thinking in real [00:31:48] time here. And do you believe that this [00:31:50] was an act of self-defense by Israel or [00:31:53] an offensive position? Again, we're the [00:31:56] emails are so largely overwhelmingly [00:31:59] against the um Israel doing this. I'd [00:32:04] say it's probably 99 to1. So, but email [00:32:07] us freedom charliek.com. Jack, your [00:32:09] thoughts? [00:32:10] Well, Charlie, we we did the same thing [00:32:12] with emails earlier uh for human events, [00:32:15] and it was it was a similar ratio. Um [00:32:18] there were a lot of people calling for [00:32:20] saying saying, "Why is this something [00:32:22] that should be done now when we're in [00:32:24] the midst of negotiations? [00:32:26] Why not trust President Trump? Why not [00:32:29] trust the work that Steve Witoff is [00:32:32] doing?" And uh try to find a way where [00:32:35] certainly we know that President Trump [00:32:37] has been committed to peace. This this [00:32:39] obviously is not the path towards peace. [00:32:41] This is the path towards a wider [00:32:43] regional war. And of course hearing uh [00:32:48] with if whether or not it's true that [00:32:50] there were uh strikes in some of these [00:32:52] other regions uh whether it be Yemen on [00:32:55] the Houthis who are Iran's uh proxy [00:32:57] force there or other areas. The goal of [00:33:00] course would be to incite a wider [00:33:02] regional war or perhaps provoke a [00:33:05] unified response from the Arab countries [00:33:07] against the non-Iranian aligned Arab [00:33:09] countries, the Saudis, the Jordanians [00:33:12] and others against Iran and create a [00:33:16] basically a a united front uh from the [00:33:18] GCC countries, the Gulf Cooperation [00:33:20] Council. And so, uh, the question is, of [00:33:24] course, I think on everyone's mind, uh, [00:33:27] how large will Iran's retaliations be? [00:33:30] And quite frankly, how far are these [00:33:33] strikes going to go? Is this the first [00:33:35] round or is this the opening salvo of [00:33:38] strikes? And if it's simply this, uh, [00:33:41] and we can all go to bed, um, perhaps [00:33:44] that's one thing, but I don't think [00:33:45] that's what how it's going to be. [00:33:49] I just saw an interesting also Tyler uh [00:33:52] I I think Tyler there's going to be some [00:33:53] major uh protests and riots in the [00:33:55] country coming up in the next couple [00:33:56] days. Yeah, that's going to be the [00:33:58] interesting breakdown, Charlie, is like [00:33:59] how how is the country going to fall on [00:34:01] this thing? And one one interesting [00:34:03] comment that just came through from a [00:34:05] person I really trust just said, "Hey, [00:34:08] please don't forget, you know, we just [00:34:09] saw the statement from Marco Rubio. Um [00:34:12] that's fantastic. We don't forget that [00:34:15] Kla Harris could be president right now. [00:34:17] Imagine a world in which this happens [00:34:20] today and Kla Harris is your president [00:34:23] or does this happen much faster much [00:34:25] earlier which I think you probably would [00:34:27] have something of of this nature is [00:34:28] probably they're probably a little bit [00:34:30] bummed actually that Trump got elected [00:34:32] because they were wanting to strike much [00:34:35] more quickly and and again depending [00:34:37] upon where you're at on the spectrum [00:34:39] with that but I I'm just so grateful [00:34:41] that Kla Harris isn't president right [00:34:43] now. Can you imagine the amount of [00:34:44] instability [00:34:46] uh that we would have across the world? [00:34:47] She would come out and she would be [00:34:48] like, "So Iran is this big country." Oh, [00:34:53] can you imagine in the Middle East and [00:34:57] they have a nuclear program. A nuclear [00:35:01] program is what enriches uranium to make [00:35:06] big bombs. And yeah, you'd want to die [00:35:10] the whole time. the whole time. She'd be [00:35:12] in front of Congress right now trying to [00:35:14] talk down to Speaker Johnson. It would [00:35:15] just be a terrible, terrible situation. [00:35:18] And to Charlie's point, there's going to [00:35:19] be protests and there's going to be [00:35:20] backlash. And the Democrats are in a [00:35:22] really bad precarious position right now [00:35:24] because they've been the antagonizers of [00:35:26] war uh across the world. And so, you're [00:35:30] not going to have prominent Democrats [00:35:31] coming out and, you know, doing it the [00:35:34] same way that they did it to Trump, to [00:35:35] Bush. that it's not going to be the same [00:35:39] uh you know recourse that they they will [00:35:41] have with members of Congress. So, it's [00:35:43] going to be really interesting [00:35:44] politically how this is going to play [00:35:45] out. That's why I think it's so [00:35:47] important for MAGA to stay firmly on the [00:35:50] side of opposing war. And I think that [00:35:53] that's probably majority of expectations [00:35:55] from Republicans. The probably 8020 I [00:35:58] would guess 7525 somewhere in there. [00:36:05] Uh so the politics of this are quite [00:36:07] interesting but I'm trying to I'm trying [00:36:10] to understand the situation on the [00:36:12] ground. So Iran has declared a [00:36:13] nationwide state of emergency. Netanyahu [00:36:16] says quote this operation will continue [00:36:18] for as many days as it takes. Uh there [00:36:21] are multiple reports of residential [00:36:24] buildings uh that are being collapsed. [00:36:26] multiple residential buildings in Thran [00:36:29] on fire or collapsing after Israeli air [00:36:32] strikes on Iran's capital. So, Jack, uh, [00:36:36] and then this Israeli planning multiple [00:36:38] waves of attack. So, this is just the [00:36:39] beginning, but help me understand, Jack, [00:36:42] if this is just going after nuclear [00:36:44] reactors or nuclear weapons. Are they [00:36:46] striking the apartment buildings because [00:36:48] maybe there were generals there? This [00:36:50] seems a lot broader than just a targeted [00:36:52] strike against Iranian nuclear reactors. [00:36:55] Well, Charlie, that's possible. Also, [00:36:58] they could another possibility could be [00:37:01] and and I think you you see this quite [00:37:03] quite a bit in Ukraine where they may [00:37:06] have been uh conducting attacks and [00:37:08] potentially targeting uh command [00:37:12] structures, command and control [00:37:13] structures within Tyrron. Of course, [00:37:15] that's where Iranian leadership is. And [00:37:18] the reason that you're seeing these hits [00:37:19] on uh apartment buildings and [00:37:22] residential buildings rather than on [00:37:24] command control centers for of the [00:37:26] higher leadership. Um this is what [00:37:28] happens potentially when you see when [00:37:30] you see missiles that are shot down, [00:37:32] when you see interceptors, when you see [00:37:33] debris, when you see these various types [00:37:36] of munitions, you get blowback. And so [00:37:39] that blowback ends up hitting the you [00:37:43] know it might hit the tower but not take [00:37:44] it out uh conduct debris and that's [00:37:46] where you're hitting civilians on and [00:37:49] give getting that collateral damage. [00:37:51] Unfortunately as as uh the parlance is [00:37:53] the civilians do become that damage if [00:37:56] it is one of those situations where [00:37:58] there's a missile shootown from Iranian [00:38:01] air defense missiles or potentially if a [00:38:04] missile malfunctioned as well. I I I [00:38:07] don't think that they would be targeting [00:38:08] directly civilian apartment buildings, [00:38:11] but of course, as you say, if there were [00:38:14] a general or some high level official, [00:38:16] some cleric inside, then that was being [00:38:18] targeted if they were the second in [00:38:20] command. Um, potentially, although the [00:38:22] question is, would they really be living [00:38:24] in a civilian high-rise like that? And [00:38:26] so, a lot of this is going to shake out. [00:38:29] We're still in the fog of war. But this [00:38:31] is war. This is what war is like. Uh [00:38:34] wars are never they never go the way you [00:38:37] think they're going to go. Uh everyone [00:38:38] has a plan until they get punched in the [00:38:40] face and the enemy gets a vote. The [00:38:44] enemy gets a vote. And so this has [00:38:45] always been the nature of warfare from [00:38:48] the very early days. And so we will see. [00:38:52] We will see what happens. Are they able [00:38:54] to ratchet up the escalatory ladder [00:38:57] before Iran can respond with significant [00:39:00] attacks, the ballistic missiles? Will [00:39:02] will Israel be able to shoot down [00:39:05] ballistic missiles with the Golden Dome? [00:39:07] Uh what do Iran's allies do? What does [00:39:09] Russia do? What does China do? Uh what [00:39:13] will is or will American forces in the [00:39:15] region face retaliatory measures? Again, [00:39:19] all of this really coming into question [00:39:21] here as we determine the initial battle [00:39:24] damage assessments from uh from these [00:39:27] what we're being told at least is the [00:39:28] opening salvo of strikes. [00:39:32] Okay, let's go to cut uh 519. This is [00:39:35] the official statement from the IDF 519. [00:39:39] For years, the Iranian regime has called [00:39:41] for the destruction of the state of [00:39:43] Israel, planning and advancing concrete [00:39:45] military plans to do so. Over the past [00:39:48] few months, intelligence has shown that [00:39:51] Iran is closer than ever to obtaining a [00:39:53] nuclear weapon. This morning, the IDF [00:39:57] began preemptive and precise strikes [00:39:59] targeting the Iranian nuclear program in [00:40:02] order to prevent the Iranian regime's [00:40:04] ability to build a nuclear bomb in the [00:40:06] immediate time frame. [00:40:09] We have no choice. We are operating [00:40:12] against an imminent and existential [00:40:14] threat. We cannot allow the Iranian [00:40:17] regime to obtain a nuclear weapon that [00:40:19] would be a danger to Israel and the [00:40:21] entire world. [00:40:24] This operation is for our right to exist [00:40:26] here, for our future and for our [00:40:28] children's future. [00:40:30] The state of Israel has the right and [00:40:32] the obligation to operate in order to [00:40:35] protect its people and will continue to [00:40:37] do so. [00:40:39] The IDF conducted significant [00:40:41] preparations for this operation. We are [00:40:43] well prepared both in defense and [00:40:45] offense to defend ourselves. The IDF [00:40:49] will continue to defend the state of [00:40:51] Israel. [00:40:54] So Blake, I want to throw this to you, [00:40:55] Blake. Is it, and I'm not even taking [00:40:58] aside here, is it self-defense to strike [00:41:00] another country that is threatening you? [00:41:03] Is that a is that a in the rules of war, [00:41:07] in the kind of way that we look at the [00:41:09] doctrine of self-defense? Is striking [00:41:11] another sovereign country self-defense? [00:41:14] I mean, the answer, the frustrating [00:41:16] answer is it depends. uh if if like an [00:41:19] attack is imminent. I think there's [00:41:21] general agreement. Like if you know with [00:41:22] certainty an enemy is about to attack [00:41:24] you, then striking in advance is is I [00:41:30] think most people would concede that [00:41:32] it's acceptable. It's just it's probably [00:41:35] the right move. But the line of course [00:41:38] is when do you actually know that sort [00:41:40] of thing? And when are you actually just [00:41:42] sort of recklessly provoking wars with [00:41:45] anyone you perceive as a threat or if [00:41:47] you're elevating threats in your own [00:41:50] mind and creating them where they [00:41:51] wouldn't necessarily exist otherwise. [00:41:54] Um, and I think something that's [00:41:56] influencing how people feel about this [00:41:58] is, as we've mentioned, you can go all [00:42:00] the way back. I think in 1992 or 1993 is [00:42:02] the first time Netanyahu, I think he was [00:42:05] just a member of the Knesset then, he [00:42:06] said Iran was 3 to 5 years away from [00:42:09] getting a nuclear weapon. And then about [00:42:11] 3 years later, he said they're 1 to two [00:42:13] years away from a nuclear weapon. And [00:42:15] then he said, you know, they're six [00:42:16] months to a year. He was saying that [00:42:18] around the time of the Iraq war. He was [00:42:20] saying that during Obama's [00:42:21] administration. He was saying that [00:42:22] during Trump's first administration, we [00:42:24] have literally been hearing about Iran's [00:42:27] being close to a nuclear weapon [00:42:29] as long as I have been alive. And I'm, [00:42:33] you know, and I'm not 20. I'm I'm I'm [00:42:35] over 30 here. And so they've been [00:42:37] pushing this a long time. And that's [00:42:40] going to color any claims like, oh, this [00:42:42] time we're dead serious. They were about [00:42:44] to build a nuclear bomb. I I just [00:42:48] remember in 2013 so much stuff. Oh, [00:42:50] they're a few months away from having a [00:42:52] nuclear bomb. And then even if they do, [00:42:54] like that doesn't equate to them [00:42:56] actually using a nuclear bomb. So you'd [00:42:58] have to go on to that level, too. Like [00:43:00] Pakistan has nuclear weapons. They're a [00:43:02] Islamic country with like an Islamic [00:43:05] government, and that actually hasn't led [00:43:06] to nuclear war. North Korea is an [00:43:09] extremely loopy country. They have [00:43:11] nuclear weapons. That is scary. I don't [00:43:13] like that at all, but it hasn't led to a [00:43:15] nuclear war. And so [00:43:19] that's going to color how people react [00:43:20] to this. Uh I want to flag cuz we have a [00:43:23] few of these donations. Uh Marishia 91 [00:43:25] said, "Everyone agrees that war is bad. [00:43:27] No one agrees on when war is necessary." [00:43:29] I've got to disagree with that one. I [00:43:31] think uh I'm not sure Lindsey Graham [00:43:32] agrees that war is bad. I think some [00:43:35] people think war is fun. War is [00:43:36] exciting. War gives them that tingle [00:43:39] down their leg that their life has [00:43:42] meaning to it. Yeah. You have to [00:43:43] remember there's some people that [00:43:45] explicitly go into politics because of [00:43:47] war. They that they love war so much [00:43:50] that they go in and and again there's [00:43:52] some really great people who serve in [00:43:54] our military who uh become this war is [00:43:57] their whole life. They've lived it. It's [00:44:00] been part of it. That's why they go in [00:44:01] is to use what they've learned to be [00:44:04] helpful. And there's others that go in [00:44:05] and that have made significant sums of [00:44:08] money from the concept of war. And [00:44:11] there's lots of people who love it. [00:44:16] And and so I guess the question is, [00:44:19] Jack, the escalatory [00:44:22] response here, what could Iran do if [00:44:24] they go all out to try to respond to [00:44:27] Israel? And will they loop the United [00:44:29] States or Saudi Arabia into that? Well, [00:44:32] yeah, Charlie, I like I said, um, in in [00:44:34] any military scenario, your assessment, [00:44:38] you want to usually create two most [00:44:39] likely and most dangerous. So, I I said [00:44:42] earlier that the most likely course of [00:44:45] action will be strikes on Israel's [00:44:48] military, uh, strikes on their uh, the [00:44:52] air force bases that conducted this [00:44:53] attack. Again, attempted strikes. You [00:44:55] know, we'll see if Israel is able to to [00:44:57] counter that. And now as we're learning [00:44:59] more about these strikes on Iranian [00:45:02] leadership, well, I'm sure that Iran's [00:45:04] uh generals and the leaders of their the [00:45:07] IRGC as well as the Mullas, they're [00:45:09] probably going to be calling for strikes [00:45:11] on Israeli leadership as well to I would [00:45:14] say including the Knesset building [00:45:16] itself where Speaker Johnson is supposed [00:45:18] to be speaking himself in just 10 days. [00:45:21] Uh that again depends on the level of [00:45:25] this opening salvo and whether or not [00:45:27] there are more waves of strikes planned. [00:45:30] Uh fighters traveling Mach 2 would take [00:45:32] about two or excuse me 45 minutes to [00:45:35] reach uh Tyrron from Tel Aviv and so you [00:45:39] need about 45 minutes to an hour between [00:45:42] Salvos. So we'll know pretty soon here [00:45:44] since the first round of strikes was [00:45:46] about 1 hour ago. if there's another [00:45:47] round of strikes taking place tonight, [00:45:49] we'll know that pretty soon. Uh it [00:45:51] should be occurring. And so if uh if [00:45:55] they want to go further than that, uh of [00:45:58] course uh hitting Israeli uh energy [00:46:00] infrastructure, hitting Israeli civilian [00:46:02] targets as well as potentially even [00:46:04] threatening uh holy sites of course all [00:46:07] could be on the table. most dangerous [00:46:08] scenario of course could be uh the the [00:46:12] shutting down of the straight of Hormuz [00:46:14] which is a critical choke point at the [00:46:16] end. I know people say it all the time [00:46:18] but just to explain it um that's a [00:46:20] critical choke point. It is the mouth of [00:46:22] the Persian Gulf. It is a very narrow [00:46:25] strip of water uh through which 20% of [00:46:29] the entire world's oil supply flows [00:46:32] through on a daily basis. And so uh [00:46:36] putting mines in the street of Hormuz or [00:46:39] putting out these picket ships from the [00:46:41] the fast attack boats from the IRGC and [00:46:44] the IRGC navy could all be potential [00:46:47] threats to that civilian merchant [00:46:48] shipping and to those super tankers [00:46:50] traveling through the straight of [00:46:52] Hormuz. Uh this would of course royal [00:46:54] energy markets and be used to be able to [00:46:57] essentially hold hostage the entire [00:46:59] world's economy. [00:47:01] So let me ask so Blake do you think that [00:47:03] the Iranian mullers get stronger or [00:47:05] weaker war? [00:47:07] So so so Blake do you think the Iranian [00:47:09] mullers get stronger or weaker with an [00:47:11] attack like this? This can actually [00:47:12] consolidate uh bad guys hold on a [00:47:15] country. Look, the West hates us. [00:47:17] They're attacking us. I know it's hard [00:47:19] to tell, but I could actually see a [00:47:21] scenario where the the bad government [00:47:23] gets more popular here. What do you [00:47:24] think? Yeah, definitely. I think in in [00:47:28] the context of the situation [00:47:31] unless like incredibly strong proof is [00:47:33] offered that they that as the IDF claims [00:47:36] they were about to assemble nuclear [00:47:37] weapons and launch an attack which I it [00:47:41] sounds it's a very strong sounding claim [00:47:43] to me that you could see in the [00:47:45] Jerusalem Post they were claiming that [00:47:47] they were planning to build about a [00:47:49] dozen nuclear weapons. they would be [00:47:50] able to assemble them quickly and they [00:47:52] were planning an attack on Israel [00:47:54] including via the Egyptian and Jordanian [00:47:57] border. They were essentially claiming a [00:47:59] like pan middle eastern plot to attack [00:48:01] Israel like a six-day war type scenario [00:48:03] when you know the overall situation is [00:48:06] Egypt has a peace treaty with Israel. [00:48:07] They've basically stayed out of this [00:48:09] one. Jordan has a peace treaty with [00:48:11] Israel. They've stayed out of this one. [00:48:13] So I'm really interested in what the [00:48:15] basis of that claim is. Uh, and so what [00:48:18] you have is they were in negotiations [00:48:20] with the United States. Obviously, [00:48:21] relations are bad. We've had some [00:48:24] missile exchanges back and forth. Like [00:48:26] there's certainly room to claim this was [00:48:27] already like a very lowlevel war, [00:48:30] especially when you take in to account [00:48:32] that Hamas is to some extent a proxy. [00:48:35] Hezbollah is definitely a proxy of Iran. [00:48:37] There's already a lot of conflict [00:48:39] between the two. But they'll certainly [00:48:41] be able to claim we did not take this [00:48:44] radical step and we were still in [00:48:45] negotiations with the United States. And [00:48:48] combined with the fact that their [00:48:50] population already doesn't like Israel [00:48:52] that much. The wider Middle East doesn't [00:48:54] like Israel that much. I think this is [00:48:56] going to not be great for their [00:48:59] reputation. I imagine Israel's [00:49:00] calculation was this is dangerous [00:49:02] enough. We don't really care about our [00:49:04] reputation on this one. That is going to [00:49:06] be their attitude on it. Now how this [00:49:09] unfolds from here I get scared by the [00:49:11] fact that [00:49:13] our ability to control what happens here [00:49:16] is very limited. Essentially Iran gets [00:49:19] to deci has the chance to decide h how [00:49:22] they want to respond and how much they [00:49:24] want us involved right now. I think our [00:49:26] attitude here you know uh you Charlie uh [00:49:30] Tyler Jack our attitude is we don't want [00:49:32] war. And I think most of MAGA is saying [00:49:34] the same thing. We don't want a war. We [00:49:36] don't want this war to involve us. [00:49:38] That's easy for us to say now, but Iran [00:49:40] has thousands of ballistic missiles. [00:49:42] Now, maybe they shoot all of them at [00:49:43] Israel, but maybe they lobbed them at a [00:49:45] bunch of bases and in 2 days there are [00:49:48] 200 dead US troops who got blown to [00:49:51] smitherines by an Iranian response. [00:49:54] What do we do then? Truthfully, what do [00:49:57] we do then? Like, people are going to be [00:49:59] outraged and hundreds of US troops are [00:50:01] dead. What do we do? And the thing is is [00:50:04] Iran might decide to do that because [00:50:06] they might make the calculation [00:50:09] America lost in Afghanistan. America is [00:50:13] very indebted. America is overstretched. [00:50:16] What if you want to dare America to try [00:50:19] to deploy a 100,000 troops into Iran? [00:50:21] And if people don't visualize this, you [00:50:23] might think, okay, we whacked Saddam. [00:50:25] That was pretty easy. Iraq is a flat [00:50:28] country. It's just a bunch of people [00:50:30] along two rivers in this relatively flat [00:50:32] desert. Iran is three times the size of [00:50:35] Iraq. It has three times as many people [00:50:37] as Iraq did when we invaded it. It's [00:50:39] heavily mountainous. It's heavily spread [00:50:41] out. It has spent way more time [00:50:44] preparing for a war against the United [00:50:46] States. Uh by which I mean like Iraq was [00:50:50] this sort of play army. Like they were [00:50:52] trying to pretend to be America. So they [00:50:54] had tanks and they had dudes with [00:50:56] machine guns and they had fighter jets, [00:50:58] but they were all way crappier than [00:50:59] ours. So we kind of fly over them and [00:51:01] blow them to smitherines and it was, you [00:51:03] know, it was like a video game. Iran [00:51:06] actually like is more self-aware that [00:51:08] they are outmatched by the United [00:51:10] States. So for example, they have a [00:51:11] navy, but it's like all little [00:51:13] motorboats that you can put little [00:51:14] suicide bombers on and you try to sail [00:51:16] them up to a boat and blow it up. They [00:51:18] have a ton of drones. They have a ton of [00:51:20] stuff that is designed for a weak [00:51:23] country fighting against a strong [00:51:26] country. And yeah, we can drop a ton of [00:51:29] bombs on Tran. We can drop a ton of [00:51:32] bombs on any other place. Not as many [00:51:34] because we gave a bunch of them to [00:51:35] Ukraine. But I don't know that we [00:51:38] actually have the ability to just take [00:51:41] 100,000 US troops, 200,000 US troops and [00:51:44] try to occupy Iran in some regime change [00:51:46] war. And I think Iran might realize that [00:51:49] and think, "Make my day, America. We're [00:51:51] going to try to get you sucked into this [00:51:53] because we hate you and we're going to [00:51:56] absolutely ruin your week." And if they [00:52:00] decide to do that, I don't know if we at [00:52:02] this point have the power to stop them. [00:52:04] If they kill hundreds of US troops, I [00:52:06] don't know that there will be the [00:52:08] political will to say, "We have to stay [00:52:10] out of this one." People will want [00:52:11] revenge. [00:52:14] With us now is Steve Bannon, host of [00:52:16] Hold on, Jack. I want to throw to Steve [00:52:18] really quick. Uh, host of War Room here [00:52:20] on Real America's Voice. Uh, do we have [00:52:22] Steve? We don't have Steve. Okay. I was [00:52:24] told that we had Oh, we have John [00:52:26] Solomon. Okay. John is here. John from [00:52:29] just thenews.com. John, you have an [00:52:30] article that's going viral right now [00:52:32] saying that Israel uh defied Trump's [00:52:34] urges. Please tell us about the [00:52:36] reporting, John Solomon, and what led uh [00:52:38] to this incredible uh historic event of [00:52:42] Israel's strike against Iran. Some [00:52:44] breaking news just a few minutes ago. [00:52:46] Marco Rubio telling Iran, "Do not attack [00:52:48] our troops in uh in the Middle East or [00:52:50] anywhere because we did not join Israel [00:52:53] in this attack. Israel acted alone." [00:52:56] That is Marco Rubio's statement just put [00:52:58] out about three minutes ago. Uh there's [00:53:00] a news alert on Justin News. Yeah, [00:53:02] listen. I think the Trump administration [00:53:04] wanted more time to try to get a Iran [00:53:07] deal in place. Uh they believe that Iran [00:53:10] is a little further from having a [00:53:12] nuclear weapon than Israel's assessment. [00:53:14] Not far different months uh in the US [00:53:17] assessment, weeks in the Israel [00:53:19] assessment. Uh and Israel had some [00:53:22] urgency believing that there might have [00:53:24] been another sort of poxy attack in the [00:53:26] wings uh with Lebanon. I think the [00:53:28] president said, "Hey, you feel like you [00:53:29] got to protect yourself, protect [00:53:31] yourself, but we're not sanctioning [00:53:32] this. Uh this is your action, not ours." [00:53:35] And and BB went ahead and did it. So, [00:53:38] we'll see how that plays out. There are [00:53:40] four things going on right now. The [00:53:41] president has a cabinet meeting going on [00:53:42] right now, even as Marco Rubio interest [00:53:45] um issued that statement. Uh the FBI is [00:53:49] uh mobilizing all of its [00:53:51] counterterrorism efforts to make sure [00:53:52] that no Hezbollah cells. We know we have [00:53:54] lots of Hezbollah cells on our soil here [00:53:57] in America. We know some we don't know [00:53:59] some because of what came in during the [00:54:00] Biden years. There will be a full alert [00:54:03] for all counterterrorism [00:54:05] uh outfits in the country to be looking [00:54:06] for any suspicious activity that would [00:54:09] suggest that Israel Iran has given some [00:54:12] signal to its sleeper cells here to [00:54:14] attack on US things and all military [00:54:17] personnel have been on alert for two [00:54:18] days already in the Middle East but [00:54:20] they'll be watching for all signs that [00:54:22] Iran tries to drag as you said drag US [00:54:25] into this attack by attacking our [00:54:27] troops. Um, all of that is right uh [00:54:30] ongoing as we speak right now. But it is [00:54:32] true that Trump didn't want this attack [00:54:34] tonight. He told Netanyahu, "If you got [00:54:37] to do it because you feel like you have [00:54:38] an imminent threat, you do it, but you [00:54:40] do it on your own and you you you have [00:54:42] to deal with it what the consequences [00:54:44] are." So, we're watching things really [00:54:45] closely. I think Marco Rubio's statement [00:54:47] very important. It's a very strong [00:54:49] statement. It's very seldom that the US [00:54:51] has said, "Hey, Israel's on their own on [00:54:53] this one." But that's what Rubio just [00:54:54] said. [00:54:56] Well, so John, how does that then [00:54:57] manifest from military aid, missiles? [00:55:00] Because if Israel is going to get into a [00:55:02] regional or a kinetic war, then at what [00:55:05] I mean is does that mean Israel is on [00:55:08] their own, no more foreign aid? Because [00:55:09] I can tell you right now, our audience [00:55:10] is so against what Israel is doing right [00:55:12] now, just looking at the emails, does [00:55:14] this mean that the US US aid to Israel [00:55:17] is over? I don't think so yet. I listen, [00:55:20] Donald Trump has still been a strong [00:55:22] supporter of Israel. Uh Donald Trump has [00:55:24] fresh in his mind the atrocities that [00:55:26] Iran allowed and funded and caused to [00:55:29] happen on October 7th which was their [00:55:31] 911. I think the president will give him [00:55:34] uh Netanyahu some room. I think we will [00:55:36] continue to support them in the short [00:55:38] term. That's the guidance I got earlier [00:55:40] today. The Trump White House knew this [00:55:42] was going for two days, so there's been [00:55:44] no surprise about it. Um it really comes [00:55:46] down to how does Iran react in the next [00:55:50] uh several days? Does it try to drag [00:55:52] another Western or American ally into [00:55:54] this? Attack Saudi Arabia, attack Iraq, [00:55:57] attack our troops and some of our [00:55:59] forwardleaning bases in the Middle East. [00:56:01] That will have one calculation. I think [00:56:03] Iran is pretty smart to know that they [00:56:06] don't want to poke the bayer unless [00:56:07] they're ready for a real war. Uh, keep [00:56:09] in mind that some of Iran's military [00:56:11] production has been diverted to Russia. [00:56:13] So, it doesn't have as uh full a [00:56:16] compliment as it would have had two [00:56:18] years ago before the Ukraine war began [00:56:20] sucking up resources from Russia. So, [00:56:23] that's the another piece that it goes [00:56:24] into the calculus. My guess is this is a [00:56:27] four or five day operation between both [00:56:29] sides. Then there'll be a truce and then [00:56:31] America will go back to the bargaining [00:56:33] table and say, "Let's not have another [00:56:35] one of these. Let's get this done." Now, [00:56:37] if Israel hits successfully a major [00:56:39] nuclear site and Iran is really upset u [00:56:42] and they actually cause damage and set [00:56:44] the program back, Iran might want to [00:56:46] prolong it. But we'll wait and see. A [00:56:48] lot needs to be sorted out. There's [00:56:50] always propaganda in the early moments [00:56:51] of the war. Some of Israel's statements [00:56:53] tonight, we just don't know if they're [00:56:54] true, right? We don't know if there was [00:56:55] a planned attack at the border. We don't [00:56:57] know uh if there's been some [00:56:59] acceleration. We do know one thing. [00:57:01] About two hours ago, the UN atomic [00:57:04] weapons agency said that Iran is more [00:57:07] out of compliance than it's been in a [00:57:09] long time on its nuclear obligations. Uh [00:57:11] that is something that comes from a uh a [00:57:14] body that's more generally sympathetic [00:57:16] to Iran. It is a warning sign that Iran [00:57:18] might be uh moving ahead with a nuclear [00:57:20] weapon, but um I think the US is going [00:57:23] to let Israel fight this on its own, but [00:57:25] not pull support, the normal support we [00:57:27] give the country. [00:57:30] Okay. So um question here John. So the [00:57:33] Iranian uh jets are now airborne heading [00:57:36] towards Israel look looks like according [00:57:38] to reports and so the this this will [00:57:42] likely escalate in the coming days. Um [00:57:46] how do you see this as far as the MAGA [00:57:48] movement? What do you think the [00:57:50] sentiment is amongst the rank and file [00:57:52] politically? Um because that kind of [00:57:55] very tepid response from President Trump [00:57:58] is uh very very telling and illuminating [00:58:01] and also undermines all the talks that [00:58:04] were planned coming up on Sunday. John. [00:58:07] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, I uh I think [00:58:11] the MAGA movement is going to take its [00:58:12] cues from President Trump. They trust [00:58:14] President Trump. He has created a far [00:58:16] more stable world just in the first four [00:58:18] or five months. They'll be looking for [00:58:20] cues from the president. Marco Rubio's [00:58:22] statement is the first you Iran, we [00:58:25] didn't do this. This is your beef with [00:58:27] Israel. You take it up with them. Now, [00:58:29] if Iran tries to drag us in, American [00:58:32] sentiment in the MAGA movement will move [00:58:33] very quickly. And Donald Trump, as he [00:58:35] has shown previously when he took out [00:58:37] Solommani in 2020, won't hesitate uh to [00:58:40] use military might. And uh we could we [00:58:43] could harm is Iran pretty heavily pretty [00:58:46] quickly. I know uh a ground war is not [00:58:48] of anyone's interest, but our air [00:58:50] superior our air superiority over Iran [00:58:53] would be significant. Their drones [00:58:55] wouldn't work on us because we don't [00:58:56] have a significant forwardleaning [00:58:58] location where they can deploy their [00:59:00] drones. Uh we could we could put some [00:59:02] big hurt on it. I think Iran knows that. [00:59:04] Um how this plays out, I think it's [00:59:06] about a seven or eight day war. I think [00:59:08] Iran and Israel will fight it out until [00:59:10] they get tired for a while and then [00:59:11] they'll take a pause and assess the [00:59:13] damage and then that's Donald Trump's [00:59:16] moment to get people to the bargaining [00:59:17] table and see if he can resume [00:59:19] negotiations. [00:59:21] Okay, let's play BB Netanyahu's [00:59:23] statement. Play cut 523, please. [00:59:26] Moments ago, Israel launched Operation [00:59:29] Rising Lion, a targeted military [00:59:32] operation to roll back the Iranian [00:59:34] threat to Israel's very survival. This [00:59:38] operation will continue for as many days [00:59:40] as it takes to remove this threat. For [00:59:44] decades, the tyrants of Thran have [00:59:46] brazenly, openly called for Israel's [00:59:49] destruction. They backed up their [00:59:51] genocidal rhetoric with a program to [00:59:54] develop nuclear weapons. In recent [00:59:57] years, Iran has produced enough [00:59:59] highlyenriched uranium for nine atom [01:00:02] bombs. Nine. In recent months, Iran has [01:00:06] taken steps that it has never taken [01:00:08] before. Steps to weaponize this enriched [01:00:11] uranium. And if not stopped, Iran could [01:00:14] produce a nuclear weapon in a very short [01:00:17] time. It could be a year. It could be [01:00:19] within a few months, less than a year. [01:00:22] This is a clear and present danger to [01:00:24] Israel's very survival. [01:00:28] So, so John, the counterargument that [01:00:30] people will say is that we have been [01:00:31] we've been hearing that for the last 20 [01:00:33] to 30 years, John. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, [01:00:35] that's true. Listen, we certainly heard [01:00:37] it for the last 10 or 15 years. Um, and [01:00:39] then there was a pause with the 2016 [01:00:42] Obama deal, though Iran did continue to [01:00:45] work behind the scenes. I will tell you [01:00:46] this. Uh I've always taken the grain of [01:00:48] salt that Iran's getting really close to [01:00:50] a nuclear weapon. But in the last eight [01:00:52] months, uh both people who are very [01:00:54] liberal and have been very supportive [01:00:56] and tolerant of um Iran have told me [01:00:59] they have really accelerated. Uh we're [01:01:02] seeing a a level of behavior we haven't [01:01:04] seen. That was really the message today [01:01:06] in the UN atomic weapons um uh statement [01:01:10] that came out which I think surprised [01:01:11] Iran. They didn't think that was coming. [01:01:13] Uh the Trump intelligence people believe [01:01:15] that there has been an acceleration. [01:01:17] That's why they moved more aggressively [01:01:19] into negotiations. Remember, Donald [01:01:21] Trump wasn't that interested in Iran [01:01:23] negotiations during the uh uh election. [01:01:26] But he he saw the intelligence when he [01:01:28] came in and he made a calculated [01:01:30] decision that's in the world's interest [01:01:31] to try to negotiate. I do think there's [01:01:33] been an acceleration based on the 360 [01:01:36] degree view of sources that I've talked [01:01:39] to. Were they days away from having a [01:01:41] nuclear weapon? No. Did Israel have more [01:01:44] time to give the United States time to [01:01:45] negotiate? Yes. Uh unless there was some [01:01:48] border attack or um Hamas attack that we [01:01:51] didn't know about, but Hamas has spent [01:01:53] down. Hezbollah is expent out. Uh it [01:01:56] does feel like Israel just arbitrarily [01:01:57] picked this day based on all the intel I [01:01:59] have. But we'll let this play out for a [01:02:01] couple days. We might learn some things. [01:02:03] Um I do think Marco Rubio's line is [01:02:06] probably the line the Trump [01:02:07] administration will take for the first [01:02:08] few days until things sort itself out. [01:02:12] Jack, do you have a question for John [01:02:14] here? Uh Jack Pasobic um here on Real [01:02:16] America's Voice. Jack, uh they were [01:02:19] telling me there was some uh there was a [01:02:22] routing issue. So, I don't know if the [01:02:23] way that I'm in that John can hear me, [01:02:25] but I guess I I suppose going back to [01:02:28] John's and if someone can relay this [01:02:30] going back to John's question regarding [01:02:32] the sleeper cells. Hey, Charlie, I might [01:02:34] need you to interpret because I don't [01:02:36] have a feedback. I would like like to [01:02:38] hear more about what we know about [01:02:39] potential sleeper cells that came in [01:02:40] under Biden. [01:02:43] John Jack says he wants to know about [01:02:44] sleeper cells that came in under Biden. [01:02:46] Oh yeah, that is a really really big [01:02:50] concern inside the FBI inside the larger [01:02:53] intelligence committee. We there were [01:02:54] some here already. We thwarted an attack [01:02:57] in 2011 and 12 against uh the Saudi [01:03:00] Arabia via ambassador Ab Al Jabar. Uh [01:03:04] but we barely caught that. We got lucky [01:03:06] on that one. And the open border allowed [01:03:09] so many people to come in. You saw all [01:03:11] those passports that Ben shows on air [01:03:13] all the time. A lot of them were [01:03:15] Iranian. Uh there is grave concern that [01:03:17] there are far more than we know of. The [01:03:19] FBI since the moment Cash Patel got in [01:03:22] has put a big press in to get all the [01:03:24] identities of anyone they think could be [01:03:26] even remotely associated with radicals. [01:03:29] Uh but three months isn't enough to undo [01:03:32] the damage of four years of Joe Biden. [01:03:34] So that is the gravest concern and uh [01:03:36] you know we deal with some of these uh [01:03:39] lone actors and even al-Qaeda is the [01:03:41] rookie leagues of terrorism compared to [01:03:43] Hezbollah. Hezbollah are the best of the [01:03:45] best and they probably sent their best [01:03:47] sleeper cells to America. So it is [01:03:49] something that we're all going to have [01:03:50] to be on alert. Uh hopefully Iran will [01:03:53] take Donald Trump at his word that we [01:03:54] aren't behind this. We don't support it. [01:03:56] We still want a negotiation and if you [01:03:58] poke this bear, you're going to regret [01:04:00] it. [01:04:02] the uh according to CNN, the entire [01:04:04] Iranian general staff, including the [01:04:06] head of um all military, several senior [01:04:09] Iranian nuclear scientists, all [01:04:11] eliminated tonight. Uh intel uh suggests [01:04:14] uh so their targets. I can tell you I [01:04:17] can tell you from talking to Israel in [01:04:19] the last couple hours that this was more [01:04:21] than just a nuclear strike. This was a [01:04:23] decapitation strike against their [01:04:25] military, particularly the uh Republican [01:04:27] Guard leadership. Uh, so they're [01:04:29] achieving more than just a preemptive [01:04:31] nuclear strike. They're trying to wipe [01:04:32] out the military control and command [01:04:34] capabilities of their best officers. [01:04:38] Yeah. And so Iran is a big country and a [01:04:41] proud country. John, I want to play this [01:04:43] here. Actually, let's play cut 526. This [01:04:45] is CNN's reporting. First, Caitlyn, uh, [01:04:49] something I just heard from a senior [01:04:51] Israeli official who says that according [01:04:53] to Israeli assessments, uh, there are [01:04:56] very high chances that the entire [01:04:59] Iranian general staff, including the [01:05:01] head of the Iranian general staff of the [01:05:03] Iranian military and several senior [01:05:06] Iranian nuclear scientists, were all [01:05:09] eliminated in the Israeli strikes [01:05:12] tonight. [01:05:15] So here's where our audience is a little [01:05:17] confused, John. It was told to be a [01:05:20] nuclear issue. If it was just about [01:05:22] taking out nuclear reactors, then I [01:05:25] guess also taking out the entire senior [01:05:27] military command. So help us understand [01:05:30] that. As I said, uh these early [01:05:33] statements that Israel give often has a [01:05:35] little bit of propaganda. It often has a [01:05:37] little bit of misdirection. Listen, I'm [01:05:39] not unconvinced that when the president [01:05:42] said uh he had sent um Wickoff back as [01:05:45] an ambassador that it wasn't a head fake [01:05:46] to make the Iranians sick, they had more [01:05:48] time because the Iranians were even [01:05:51] though Donald Trump signaled for two [01:05:52] days, I can tell you from what I've [01:05:55] heard on the ground and from our own [01:05:56] intel before I got on air here, the [01:05:58] Iranians were caught a little flatfooted [01:06:00] even though they were being told. So, [01:06:02] it's possible that Wickoff and the idea [01:06:04] that he was coming back to the region [01:06:05] might have lulled them into some [01:06:07] complacency. They were caught a little [01:06:09] bit flatfooted. They could have all been [01:06:11] at a meeting preparing thinking they had [01:06:13] another day before Israel how what's our [01:06:14] war plan and Israel could have sniped [01:06:16] them tonight. Uh that is what happens [01:06:18] when war gets started, right? All rules [01:06:20] are set aside. And um I I know for [01:06:23] certain from talking to my Israeli [01:06:25] sources that beyond the nuclear reactor [01:06:28] targeting, there was a decapitation [01:06:30] strategy to get some of the Iranian [01:06:32] National Guard and those generals that [01:06:34] were most capable in the nuclear warfare [01:06:37] to be knocked out denied if they could [01:06:39] get. [01:06:41] John, please uh tell the audience how [01:06:43] people can support Just the News, some [01:06:44] of your reporting, and what are you [01:06:45] keeping your eye on most closely in the [01:06:48] coming hours and days? [01:06:50] FBI response is going to be number one. [01:06:52] Are they concerned? Do they begin to [01:06:53] issue terrorism warning on our site? Do [01:06:55] we wake up tomorrow morning to any news [01:06:57] that US troops have been engaged by Iran [01:07:00] o overseas? Uh I'm hoping not. I think [01:07:03] the Trump administration right now has [01:07:04] some level of confidence that won't [01:07:06] happen. Uh but those are wild cards that [01:07:08] change this dynamic very quickly for the [01:07:10] United States. Everybody can keep up [01:07:12] with us at just the newsws.com and Jay [01:07:14] Solomon reports on all social media [01:07:15] including Truth. [01:07:18] Thank you so much, John. Really [01:07:19] appreciate it. Thank you. Great to be [01:07:20] with you guys. [01:07:22] All right, Blake, Jack, catch us up. [01:07:24] What are we reading? What are we seeing? [01:07:27] Uh, nothing too immediately breaking [01:07:30] now. I mean, it's just the standard [01:07:31] stuff. You have the narratives of um [01:07:36] obviously the possibility that the [01:07:38] general staff member is that the general [01:07:40] staff is getting taken out. I I really [01:07:42] don't want to like underplay that. That [01:07:45] would be a huge escalation. You see, [01:07:47] there's always this dance. Uh some [01:07:50] people have said this could be a big [01:07:51] nothing burger because of course we had [01:07:53] we've had exchanges with Iran in the [01:07:55] past. We took out um what was what was [01:07:58] his name? Uh their the Republican guard [01:08:01] the revolutionary guard commander that [01:08:03] we that we blew up and then you know [01:08:05] after that yeah they then they kind of [01:08:08] buzzed our bases and then there was some [01:08:10] stuff where you know Iran shot a few [01:08:12] missiles at Israel's way. They've done [01:08:15] it twice. [01:08:16] So, we have these like minor engagements [01:08:20] back and forth, but like now you're just [01:08:22] taking out the very top of their [01:08:24] military structure. You're hitting stuff [01:08:25] that wasn't hit before. [01:08:28] It's not going to invite the same scale [01:08:30] of response as before, I believe. [01:08:36] Jack, what are we seeing? I'm having [01:08:37] some audio issues here. So, Jack Oh, [01:08:39] Jack, we lost Jack. [01:08:42] Jack is gone. Jack not up. Uh I I need [01:08:46] to I need to fix some uh feedback issue [01:08:48] here for a second. So um Blake talk [01:08:52] about this here. Um [01:08:55] residential buildings targeted in Tran. [01:08:57] Um top Democrat on US Armed Services [01:09:00] Committee condemns Israel's reckless [01:09:03] escalation. Um Israel believes that the [01:09:06] chief of Iranians u nuclear scientists [01:09:09] and program and IDF uh was killed. So [01:09:12] Blake, is it fair to say this is beyond [01:09:14] just the strike on nuclear facilities? [01:09:16] Yeah, very clearly it's beyond that. We [01:09:19] have I mean we're blowing up buildings [01:09:21] in Tran that that is not their nuclear [01:09:23] program. Their nuclear program is these [01:09:26] enrichment facilities that are in the [01:09:27] mountains of Iran. They're underground. [01:09:29] They're hard to hit. You're not going to [01:09:31] be seeing a lot of footage of those [01:09:32] getting hit because they're not where a [01:09:33] bunch of people are. But when you see [01:09:35] them hitting buildings in Tran, that's [01:09:37] them going after uh Iranian Iranian [01:09:40] officials, Iranian generals, Iranian [01:09:43] military command and control. It's the [01:09:45] stuff you'd expect in, you know, if [01:09:48] they're preparing for a normal war that [01:09:50] they're worried about the conventional [01:09:51] response of the Iranian forces. So, this [01:09:54] is not merely a strike on their nuclear [01:09:57] program. It's I mean, it's the opening [01:09:59] volley of what could be an extended air [01:10:01] war. And I shudder to say potentially [01:10:04] some sort of ground war. Like they don't [01:10:06] have a land border with Israel, but they [01:10:08] have a land border with Iraq. That [01:10:10] that's a country where we have soldiers. [01:10:12] There's a lot of room for this to [01:10:13] escalate. And a big thing to know about [01:10:15] wars is once they begin, they evolve in [01:10:20] directions that nobody can predict and [01:10:21] you can't necessarily expect and you [01:10:23] definitely can't control. [01:10:27] To put this into perspective, Charlie [01:10:30] and Blake, the Democrats right now are [01:10:33] more concerned about Senator Padilla [01:10:36] right now than they are anything having [01:10:38] Jeff like did a post about 37 minutes [01:10:41] ago after after this had begun just Oh [01:10:44] yeah, I'm talking about this other [01:10:45] thing. No, it's they are completely [01:10:48] focused. They're completely trying to [01:10:50] offiscate [01:10:52] any kind of responsibility on either [01:10:55] side of the this major major world [01:10:57] changing like to your point world [01:10:59] changing issue. I mean this is going to [01:11:00] be a historical moment probably for how [01:11:04] uh how relations turn out. We we talked [01:11:06] a little bit in the chat about Russia [01:11:08] what Russia's response is going to look [01:11:09] like in the midst of war with Ukraine. [01:11:11] Uh there's it's going to be a very [01:11:13] interesting moment that happens now [01:11:14] where things have to move, dominoes have [01:11:16] to fall and the Democrats the best they [01:11:19] can do, the best they can muster up. [01:11:21] Chuck Schumer, Hakee Jeff, Nancy Pelosi, [01:11:25] all of their most recent posts within [01:11:27] the last hour, last few hours have been [01:11:30] about Alex Padilla and him, you know, [01:11:34] rightfully getting thrown to the ground. [01:11:37] So, this is how unserious the Democrat [01:11:39] party is. And this is part of the reason [01:11:40] why the Democrats are losing so much [01:11:42] ground with the American people is that [01:11:44] we're watching, you know, really serious [01:11:47] things happen right now. And you have [01:11:49] really serious players at the table [01:11:50] like, you know, former Senator Marco [01:11:53] Rubio who's now Secretary of State who's [01:11:55] who's been doing an incredible job. He's [01:11:57] getting extremely high approval ratings, [01:11:59] some of the highest that we've seen out [01:12:01] of administrative members for the last [01:12:04] three presidents. and these that we [01:12:07] can't even get the Democrats to come out [01:12:09] of their hole to give their response and [01:12:12] they they clearly don't have one and [01:12:14] that's bad for America because what the [01:12:17] Democrats are doing is they're posturing [01:12:19] to politicize whatever the result of [01:12:21] tonight's going to be. So, you know, the [01:12:23] answer John Solomon was just talking [01:12:25] about what happens tomorrow. You were [01:12:26] talking about what happens tomorrow when [01:12:29] Americans die. And that's where the big [01:12:32] boys actually have to make a decision on [01:12:33] what do we do as a as an American [01:12:35] people? What are the decisions that we [01:12:36] have to make? What's the listening that [01:12:37] we have to do to people? And you have [01:12:39] half of Americans represented, [01:12:42] effectively half of Americans, slightly [01:12:44] less this this last election represented [01:12:47] by Democrats who have nothing to say. [01:12:51] and they are they are torn ideologically [01:12:54] within their own party in defending [01:12:58] Jewish people and going after uh Jewish [01:13:02] people and so the Jewish people and and [01:13:04] their identity that around [01:13:08] so that's we're in a really put these [01:13:11] headphones on interesting time right now [01:13:12] where we are going to be really [01:13:14] determining whether or not the Democrat [01:13:16] party is going to be living up to the [01:13:18] task to gain any seats in Congress. [01:13:21] Because the net outcome of this could be [01:13:23] is that Trump handles this really well [01:13:25] shows and gives congressional leadership [01:13:27] a nice kick in the in the in the tush [01:13:30] which is that you know a lot of people [01:13:32] have had a lot of bad negative things to [01:13:34] say about Congress because of a lack of [01:13:36] ability to pass basic cuts and now we [01:13:40] have a real conflict on on our hands and [01:13:42] the Trump administration being able to [01:13:44] show up and handle this correctly and [01:13:45] appropriately and be a true world leader [01:13:48] especially in the shadow shadows of a [01:13:52] really devolving Democrat party is, I [01:13:55] think, a really great opportunity for [01:13:57] Republicans, but this is an opportunity [01:14:00] for us to unify, talk about things, come [01:14:03] together, you know, behind closed doors, [01:14:05] figure out things before you go out and [01:14:06] start spouting off stuff because the [01:14:08] Democrats are positioning themselves to [01:14:11] have a unified message. That's why [01:14:12] they're not saying anything. That's why [01:14:13] they're their last posts are about [01:14:15] Padilla. That's going to be a very [01:14:18] interesting thing what they come out [01:14:19] with. And it may not be very smart. Like [01:14:22] it could be a very uh haphazard [01:14:26] type of move that they make. I mean [01:14:28] Chuck Schumer is clearly not on his [01:14:30] game. Uh Jeffrey's again 37 minutes ago [01:14:33] at 38 minutes 40 minutes ago he's [01:14:35] posting about Padilla in the middle of [01:14:37] all this. You're not you can't be a [01:14:38] serious future speaker of the house. [01:14:41] Like no one can look at that and say [01:14:42] you're serious. Yeah. It's I [01:14:46] we have Jack. No, no. I guys, I was just [01:14:48] going to throw in I know I said this [01:14:49] earlier, but I'm going to say it again. [01:14:51] There's going to be hell to pay between [01:14:54] President Trump and BB Netanyahu if [01:14:57] Netanyahu did this in defiance of what [01:15:00] Trump asked him to do. Uh, this of [01:15:04] course, as we know, has been a huge crux [01:15:06] of their relationship. They've gotten [01:15:08] into it before going back to 2020, even [01:15:11] going back to the Solmani strike. And of [01:15:14] course we know that uh a regional war is [01:15:18] the very last thing that President Trump [01:15:21] campaigned on. It is the very last thing [01:15:23] that he asked for. It's the very last [01:15:25] thing that he wants right now. And so [01:15:27] this idea that President Trump would be [01:15:29] totally okay with this after saying [01:15:31] spending all day saying negotiations [01:15:34] only. The question is what did he say to [01:15:38] Netanyahu? When did he say it? And of [01:15:41] course, what's he going to come back and [01:15:43] uh and respond? And of course, of [01:15:46] course, if Israel does and obviously [01:15:49] this has gone beyond just a strike on [01:15:51] nuclear facilities at this point. And if [01:15:53] if Iran does retaliate by raining [01:15:56] missiles down on Israel, then will the [01:16:00] US be drawn in? And that's the bigger [01:16:02] question here. Will the US with the [01:16:04] again the 40 to 50,000 US military [01:16:07] personnel, the carrier strike groups, [01:16:09] the Red Sea, the Straight of Hormuz, the [01:16:11] bombers down in Diego Garcia, all the [01:16:13] rest of this. Are they going to be [01:16:15] sucked in? Is the United States about to [01:16:17] be sucked into yet another war in the [01:16:19] Middle East? Because that's exactly the [01:16:22] opposite of what I campaigned for, what [01:16:24] President Trump campaigned for back in [01:16:26] Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin. [01:16:29] And I was with him at all of those [01:16:30] states. And I don't think the people of [01:16:32] those rallies were campaigning for a [01:16:34] wider regional war in the Middle East. [01:16:37] Yeah. And I mean, we have right here, [01:16:39] uh, this is just Shane just sent this [01:16:41] over. According to Washington Post, US [01:16:43] defense official says Israel's attack is [01:16:45] likely to provoke a strong Iranian [01:16:47] response and then Israel will likely ask [01:16:50] the United States to help counter Iran's [01:16:52] response. And that is where this is [01:16:55] going to become a real challenge frankly [01:16:59] is like okay it's easy to say we oppose [01:17:02] war now but this it's like terrible is [01:17:06] Iran really has a huge amount of control [01:17:08] over where this goes and they can decide [01:17:12] we want this to be a big thing that we [01:17:14] suck America into. I think that would be [01:17:15] kind of suicidal of them but they are [01:17:18] radical and another thing is is once you [01:17:20] start big wars countries can behave [01:17:22] irrationally. they can decide to expand [01:17:24] things. I mean, if you want to draw in [01:17:26] historical examples, everyone's [01:17:27] endlessly thinking about World War II, [01:17:30] like in World War II, Hitler went and [01:17:33] like declared war on America. We didn't [01:17:35] declare war on him. He declared war on [01:17:37] us. And that was a highly irrational [01:17:40] thing to do. But wars make people behave [01:17:43] irrationally. That is one reason you [01:17:45] should be very, very careful about [01:17:46] starting them. Does Jack, does Trump's [01:17:50] relationship, recent relationship with [01:17:53] Putin change the calculus of this entire [01:17:56] thing? [01:17:58] Well, I think there's going to be a lot [01:17:59] of questions and I would certainly I [01:18:01] I'll say right now, I certainly hope [01:18:03] that the United States is coordinating [01:18:05] on all fronts. Obviously, Iran uh being [01:18:09] right in the backyard of Russia is going [01:18:11] to be a key part of the strategic [01:18:13] calculus between the United States and [01:18:15] Russia visv our negotiations with them [01:18:18] on Ukraine and a host of other fronts. [01:18:20] Again, we know this is what the Russians [01:18:22] have been asking for. Lavrov has said so [01:18:24] many times in all of these meetings and [01:18:26] is said in his meeting with uh Secretary [01:18:29] Rubio as well that what they're looking [01:18:31] for is a wider uh negotiation with the [01:18:34] United States on all fronts, not just [01:18:36] Europe, not just Ukraine, but also the [01:18:39] Middle East and other areas. And this [01:18:41] had been potentially an area where the [01:18:43] Russians could be partners with the [01:18:46] United States. Uh Russia does not has [01:18:49] never said they wanted Iran to have a [01:18:51] nuclear weapon. I Iran having a nuclear [01:18:53] weapon is an issue for Russia even more [01:18:56] than it's an issue for the United States [01:18:59] because if there's regional instability [01:19:01] in the Middle East, that's right in [01:19:02] Russia's backyard. They have borders [01:19:04] throughout that region. They're a key uh [01:19:08] key part of Central Asia. Again, Russia [01:19:10] is a massive land empire. So, they've [01:19:12] got borders from Europe to Central Asia [01:19:14] to the Middle East all the way out to [01:19:17] China and Mongolia in their far east and [01:19:19] even even of course touching Japan in a [01:19:21] sense. And so this strategic calculus [01:19:24] between the United States and Russia [01:19:26] could be absolutely critical right now [01:19:29] between Trump and Putin. And if Trump [01:19:32] and Putin, I'm sure President Trump, by [01:19:33] the way, is talking to a variety of [01:19:36] world leaders tonight. We know the White [01:19:38] House has convened this cabinet meeting. [01:19:40] We know that the situation room has been [01:19:42] active all day at the White House. So [01:19:44] I'm sure that President Trump has been [01:19:46] in communication with many world [01:19:47] leaders. And I would expect that he's [01:19:49] speaking with Vladimir Putin, Xiinping, [01:19:51] and many others this very night. [01:19:58] Yeah, I think and we've got we've got [01:20:00] Charlie jumping back in here right now. [01:20:02] Who's coming back? Good. Yeah. But I you [01:20:05] know I I I think it's going to be very [01:20:07] interesting. You know, some people there [01:20:09] was some speculation that the Ukraine [01:20:13] Russia conflict that's going on right [01:20:14] now. Hello. It plays at a huge uh [01:20:18] Charlie, is that you? Yeah, we got [01:20:19] Charlie. I can't hear you guys, but I [01:20:22] can see you reacting. We can hear you, [01:20:23] Charlie. We'll text you. Hold on. I'll [01:20:25] I'll text him in the chat. We'll get [01:20:27] We'll get Charlie back. We're doing it [01:20:29] live, folks. We're doing it live. Second [01:20:31] round of attacks are happening. I can't [01:20:32] hear you. See why? [01:20:36] We'll get Charlie's audio back. This is [01:20:37] great. If I ever debate Charlie Kirk, I [01:20:38] always want to be like this over stream [01:20:41] where I can hear him but he can't hear [01:20:43] me. Yeah. [01:20:45] But I I this the only way you could ever [01:20:47] you could ever beat him, folks. This is [01:20:48] what happens. This is the fog of war, [01:20:49] guys. Things break down go into the take [01:20:54] down Charlie's mic. You don't know who's [01:20:56] talking force. There's uh there's a lot [01:20:59] of interest. I think that that this [01:21:01] could be a Ukraine war killer out of [01:21:04] this entire thing where it's going to be [01:21:06] changes the entire dynamics of the the [01:21:09] war in Ukraine may come to a rapid close [01:21:12] here based off of this whole thing which [01:21:16] also is a a dynamic of the outcomes from [01:21:19] these strikes that are happening which [01:21:22] is you know maybe there's some immediate [01:21:24] positives that come from that u because [01:21:26] of the concern that I think so many of [01:21:27] us had about that uh you know, Democrats [01:21:30] will shout and scream and say, "Oh my [01:21:32] gosh, no, we are giving too much power [01:21:34] again to Russia and everything else." [01:21:36] It's going to be a very interesting [01:21:37] outcome. But I do think a net positive [01:21:39] of this is perhaps it does close that [01:21:41] window. Perhaps it does bring Russia to [01:21:44] the table. Perhaps it does bring some uh [01:21:47] working together to ensure that there is [01:21:49] peace in the Middle East. But who knows, [01:21:52] you know, guys, and and I'll say this as [01:21:54] well, you know, for for anyone who's [01:21:56] sort of in that we've talked about this [01:21:58] before that sort of like elder [01:22:00] millennial [01:22:01] band or just millennials in general, uh, [01:22:04] the Gen Y's out there. So, speaking to [01:22:08] them as opposed to the the the Gen Z's [01:22:10] and I know Gen Alphas and others who are [01:22:13] watching, I hear my Gen Alpha son in the [01:22:15] other room right now, by the way. uh [01:22:17] that this all reminds us of the post 911 [01:22:21] er era and certainly it reminds me of [01:22:24] the era of going into Iraq and I just [01:22:27] wanted to I wanted to ask you guys if [01:22:28] that you know my memories of that are so [01:22:31] clear and I remember all of the things [01:22:34] that we were told all the this is going [01:22:36] to make the world safer this is going to [01:22:38] be good for America this is going to be [01:22:40] helpful we're shutting down a weapons of [01:22:41] mass destruction program and it's like [01:22:44] it's like I've seen this movie before [01:22:46] and I feel a lot of those same arguments [01:22:49] and a lot of those same uh emotions of [01:22:52] the time. But at the same time is that [01:22:54] you know we've got social media now [01:22:55] we've got this immediate rapid response [01:22:57] from uh from X and you you sort of you [01:23:01] remember that even if you think that the [01:23:05] war is a good idea going into it, it [01:23:08] sort of gives you this this overarching [01:23:10] look where you have the ability to [01:23:12] think, you know, secondary effects, [01:23:15] tertiary effects, those could [01:23:17] potentially be far worse and far wider [01:23:21] reaching than anything that came before. [01:23:23] And how do we know about this? Well, we [01:23:24] have the history of the Iraq war and the [01:23:26] history of the global war on terror, the [01:23:28] recent history, even with the fall of [01:23:30] Kabool that we can point to and say, [01:23:32] "Yeah, this went really really wrong, [01:23:34] even though we thought these were great [01:23:35] ideas going into it." And just for uh [01:23:37] for Tyler and Blake, I didn't know if [01:23:39] you guys had had any reflections or if [01:23:40] it if it just for me, I just I keep [01:23:42] feeling like like it's it's very similar [01:23:45] to that. Yeah. Well, my thought is if I [01:23:48] think about how it feels different from [01:23:50] then, I mean certainly the right is [01:23:53] totally different. The right was in a [01:23:54] very rah rah mood and we should [01:23:56] acknowledge not I guess I should [01:23:57] acknowledge not everyone was. There were [01:23:59] people on the right. Um Pat Buchanan was [01:24:03] one of them. There were others who said [01:24:05] this war would be a mistake. This is not [01:24:07] what conservatism is about. This is not [01:24:09] what putting America first is about. [01:24:12] This is a huge blunder. people warned [01:24:16] about that. I we should remember that. [01:24:18] And [01:24:21] we kind of our blood was up over 9/11. [01:24:24] And I think it's taken a long time for [01:24:26] us to come around to this. But I think [01:24:28] there's now a pretty [01:24:30] widpread acknowledgment that because of [01:24:34] 9/11, because of the national tragedy we [01:24:37] suffered, that we made we made a big [01:24:39] mistake. We got ourselves involved in [01:24:41] conflicts that were had no clear [01:24:43] objective, that had no clear end point, [01:24:46] that were hugely expensive, and that [01:24:49] produced no real long-term good for the [01:24:51] United States. In fact, if you really [01:24:53] want to go back, you could say a lot of [01:24:54] the enduring problems America has right [01:24:56] now that we're trying to solve with [01:24:58] Trump. Go back to that post 911 period [01:25:00] and us making the wrong decisions. We [01:25:02] had a blank check. Bush could have done [01:25:05] anything he wanted after 9/11. He could [01:25:08] have said this happened because we had [01:25:09] an open border and we need to fix that [01:25:13] or the country's doomed and or this [01:25:16] happened because we're dependent on [01:25:17] foreign countries. We need to make sure [01:25:18] all of our manufacturing is in the [01:25:20] United States. Instead, he invaded a [01:25:22] foreign country and he shot the deficit [01:25:25] up super high. And we're still dealing [01:25:26] with both of those things. Uh totally [01:25:30] different country. What I remember is [01:25:32] that America, it felt like we were [01:25:35] invincible. It felt like we could do [01:25:37] just about anything and we were [01:25:39] overconfident and so I definitely feel [01:25:41] different now. We are a nation that is [01:25:44] far more aware of our limitations to be [01:25:47] honest. [01:25:49] Okay guys, here we are. Uh can you hear [01:25:51] me? Okay, everyone good? Yes, we can [01:25:52] hear you Charlie. You hear me? Great, [01:25:54] great, great, great. Okay, so it looks [01:25:55] like the second round of attack is [01:25:57] happening. Everybody, hello. If you are [01:25:58] just tuning in, uh it looks like the um [01:26:01] it is escalating even further. Israel [01:26:03] has decided to strike Iran preemptively. [01:26:06] This is one of the largest preemptive [01:26:08] strikes that we have seen between any [01:26:10] two sovereign countries in quite some [01:26:13] time. And this has huge American [01:26:15] domestic political implications. I'm [01:26:17] going to make a a prediction right now. [01:26:20] These kind of no kings protests that [01:26:23] we're seeing this weekend, they're going [01:26:24] to be hijacked by all the pro Hamas [01:26:25] stuff. We're going to have all [01:26:27] intersectionality back in the streets. [01:26:29] Iran State TV says, quote, unconfirmed [01:26:31] reports say that Israel has martyed [01:26:33] Iranian revolutionary guard chief [01:26:36] Salami. Uh that is from Iranian state [01:26:40] TV. And so this is now going to have [01:26:42] major American domestic implications. [01:26:45] Questions of should we um continue to [01:26:48] finance Israel? Should we um continue to [01:26:51] sell armaments? And as you very well [01:26:53] know, I'm very pro-Israel on this show. [01:26:55] I'm just simply interpreting the [01:26:57] political dynamics here. And I could [01:26:59] tell you right now that the um the the [01:27:04] audience, you guys, freedom [01:27:06] charliekirk.com are not thrilled with [01:27:08] this situation at all. Uh and so right [01:27:10] now, Mike Pence is saying, quote, "Iran [01:27:13] must never have a nuclear weapon. Uh we [01:27:15] must support uh the United States um [01:27:19] with uh information and with resources." [01:27:22] So the question is also I think [01:27:26] fundamentally at its core [01:27:28] how does the American America first [01:27:31] foreign policy doctrine and foreign [01:27:33] policy agenda [01:27:36] let's just say um stay consistent with [01:27:39] this [01:27:41] this this this right now is going to [01:27:43] cause I think a major schism in the MAGA [01:27:46] online community. We're not seeing that [01:27:47] yet though, right Tyler? I mean, I'm [01:27:49] seeing it a a little bit in my X feed, [01:27:51] but Tyler, it seems, you know, I don't [01:27:53] want to say over it's it's not it's [01:27:56] somewhat unified, but what are we seeing [01:27:59] so far in the right-wing community? It [01:28:01] still's early. I mean, it's still early. [01:28:03] So, I But so far, I mean, we were [01:28:05] talking about this because things are [01:28:07] happening very rapidly in real time and [01:28:10] we know war is such a hotly debated [01:28:13] topic, particularly in kind of the new [01:28:15] right, what we call it, like the MAGA [01:28:17] movement. I like the new right. we talk [01:28:18] about all the time which is very [01:28:20] anti-war. Uh so you have a lot of [01:28:22] millennials who uh who voted in record [01:28:24] numbers for Donald Trump this last [01:28:26] election uh who were kind of raised [01:28:28] under that anti- Bush remember Liz [01:28:31] Cheney, the Bushes all endorsed uh [01:28:34] against President Trump basically twice [01:28:36] in a row and they lost they lost big [01:28:39] time because the the right has shifted [01:28:42] so far into the anti-war space. So, this [01:28:45] is a huge deal. But yeah, I think right [01:28:47] now you're seeing a lot of people really [01:28:49] happy with the response from President [01:28:52] Trump's team, from Marco Rubio, his [01:28:53] statement they put out there. I think [01:28:54] that was a brilliant thing to do to make [01:28:56] sure that that that art that statement [01:28:59] is out there. But I think what's coming, [01:29:01] like you said, Charlie, is that there's [01:29:04] going to be uh so many different levels [01:29:07] to this with what we're fighting right [01:29:09] now with all these protests that are [01:29:11] happening uh with the left just going [01:29:13] psychopathic out on the streets trying [01:29:16] to trying to burn things down. It's [01:29:18] going to get hijacked by the well-funded [01:29:20] groups that are out there on the left, [01:29:22] by C4s, political action committees, big [01:29:26] nonprofit groups, C-3s that are all so [01:29:29] pro- Hamas, they're all so pro [01:29:31] anti-Israel that they're not going to be [01:29:34] able to resist to hijack these things. [01:29:36] And so, I think your your your guess is [01:29:39] is is great. It's it's a it's a lot of [01:29:41] great intuition is that we're going to [01:29:43] see a lot of that. And I don't think [01:29:44] Americans are going to love that. And I [01:29:46] think it's actually going to push people [01:29:47] more to the side of Israel because I [01:29:50] think the scariest thing here is is that [01:29:52] we be, you know, it starts this debate [01:29:55] of being really anti-Israel because, you [01:29:58] know, some people might start putting [01:30:00] out there that maybe Israel lied to [01:30:02] Trump or whatever. People will start [01:30:04] running with that narrative. And I think [01:30:06] that that's probably really negative for [01:30:07] the MAGA movement. I think the MAGA [01:30:09] movement needs to focus on, hey, we have [01:30:10] all these like really crazy pro Hamas uh [01:30:14] actors that are on the streets that are [01:30:16] burning stuff down and that's not good [01:30:19] for America and that's here. That's here [01:30:20] right now. And so I think that's really [01:30:22] smart, Charlie, to look at that. [01:30:25] So Jack, help me understand this. If we [01:30:27] knew the attack on Iran was coming, how [01:30:29] were these generals so exposed? I mean, [01:30:32] we're still we're still kind of being [01:30:33] told that Iran was taken by surprise, [01:30:35] that Iran didn't see this coming. help [01:30:38] me understand that because this was like [01:30:40] the longest windup of an attack that [01:30:43] we've seen. In fact, you and I knew this [01:30:44] was happening like hours as it was [01:30:47] developing. Jack Pobic. [01:30:49] Yeah. And and Charlie, even you and I [01:30:52] spoke this morning uh very early and and [01:30:55] heard that it was a strong possibility. [01:30:58] uh we both took to Twitter X and uh were [01:31:02] were posting messaging about it and [01:31:03] people were saying why are Jack and [01:31:05] Charlie posting about uh an Iran you [01:31:08] know strikes on Iran at you know you [01:31:10] know 7 a.m. and 8 a.m. when no one's [01:31:12] talking about that. Then as the day went [01:31:15] further, people started to realize what [01:31:17] was going on and then uh and then yeah, [01:31:19] we got that that confirmation. Charlie, [01:31:21] this remains to be seen exactly what [01:31:23] went down here. So uh there could very [01:31:26] well have been potentially operatives on [01:31:28] the ground, MSAD operatives on the [01:31:30] ground in Tyrron that knew about safe [01:31:33] houses, that knew about these types of [01:31:36] locations, that new sites that they [01:31:37] would be taking into. There are some [01:31:39] reports that Israel may have been uh [01:31:41] deploying weapons that were previously [01:31:43] not known about. So, it's it's possible [01:31:45] that even if the generals were moved to [01:31:47] a safe house or were in concert with [01:31:49] moving, if their forces had been [01:31:51] penetrated by Israeli intelligence, then [01:31:54] they they could have been able to find [01:31:55] out exactly where they were to conduct [01:31:57] these strikes. Again, I'm not saying [01:31:59] that's exactly what happened, but it it [01:32:01] may not be that they were taken by [01:32:02] surprise. It may be very well that [01:32:04] Israel conducted a large-scale [01:32:06] intelligence or even deception operation [01:32:09] to make it seem as if they didn't know [01:32:11] what the locations of these generals and [01:32:12] leaders were, but in fact they did know [01:32:14] after all. There's there's lots of ways [01:32:16] that this can be done. And again, this [01:32:19] is why some of those indications were [01:32:21] given when they were given. The question [01:32:23] of course really, I think, for a lot of [01:32:25] people is what's the what's the scale of [01:32:27] this and how is this going to be [01:32:29] returned? But uh but yes, it it can be [01:32:31] done as we're seeing. [01:32:34] Okay. So like did we talk about the [01:32:36] politics of this? The kind of the next [01:32:38] steps this is going to increase. Blake, [01:32:40] you're kind of a military historian. How [01:32:42] do these things usually end between [01:32:43] Israel? Israel does very well in short [01:32:46] wars and short conflicts. Blake, your [01:32:49] thoughts? Well, what's what's so [01:32:50] different about this one is Israel I [01:32:52] mean they have a lot of wars, but their [01:32:54] wars that are big ones are against their [01:32:57] neighbors. So they have a very strong [01:32:59] track record in wars. Uh you know they [01:33:01] beat Egypt in several wars. They beat uh [01:33:05] Syria in some wars. They fought Jordan. [01:33:07] The six- day war was them versus Egypt, [01:33:09] Jordan, Syria. Those are all countries [01:33:11] that border them. You can have a [01:33:13] conventional land war with them. With [01:33:16] Iran, I mean Iran is far away. Iran is [01:33:18] very big. So like you can kind of have [01:33:21] back and forth bombing. Obviously Israel [01:33:23] has the technology to do that. They just [01:33:25] did this. But it's like they don't have [01:33:27] the air force to like strategically bomb [01:33:30] Iran into like total submission. They [01:33:34] can kind of bomb them as much as they [01:33:36] want, but they don't have unlimited [01:33:37] munitions. We don't even have unlimited [01:33:39] munitions. I mean, Iran is I believe [01:33:41] it's a bigger it's a bigger country than [01:33:43] Ukraine. It has many more people than [01:33:45] Ukraine. And you can see like we see the [01:33:47] limitations of how far munitions can go [01:33:49] in that country. Now imagine you don't [01:33:51] have a land border with that country and [01:33:52] it's even bigger and it's more [01:33:53] mountainous. We don't actually have a [01:33:56] great model for this kind of conflict [01:33:57] for them. Israel is a country that's [01:33:59] fought its immediate neighbors in [01:34:00] conventional wars. It's fought [01:34:02] counterinsurgencies in Gaza, in the West [01:34:05] Bank, and in uh in Lebanon. But this [01:34:09] isn't a conflict that they that we have [01:34:12] a model for how it's going to go. And so [01:34:15] I can't easily say how it's going to [01:34:18] unfold. And that's why I say like we [01:34:20] have to be ready for Iran really does [01:34:22] have the capacity to decide how hot this [01:34:25] war gets. And I feel like we have to [01:34:28] hope that they don't want this to be a [01:34:31] big one. But we may have, you know, it's [01:34:33] possible that we may have set them off [01:34:35] so much they decide to escalate. I I [01:34:38] cannot. First of all, this is a credit [01:34:40] to Israel. I just got to be honest. Can [01:34:41] we put this up on screen? The pictures I [01:34:43] just sent. These are the Iranian [01:34:45] generals, Iranian commanders. So I in [01:34:48] America largely consuming public [01:34:51] information knew that a strike was [01:34:53] imminent against Iran. Okay, it's again [01:34:57] must be a credit to Israel here. How is [01:34:59] it that these four lunatics that work [01:35:01] for just as a side note for the Iranian [01:35:03] Revolutionary Guard who are now all dead [01:35:05] and eliminated when they woke up, did [01:35:08] they really not take precautions to [01:35:10] protect their military leaders? I I this [01:35:13] I I cannot I cannot understand this. [01:35:16] Like I just it is [01:35:19] Blake, can you help me process this? [01:35:21] Like I we all knew this was coming. What [01:35:23] What was it? Cockiness, pride, hubris. [01:35:26] Was it just the bombs were so powerful [01:35:28] or missiles were so powerful they [01:35:30] penetrated any bunkers they might have [01:35:31] been in? Help me understand how these [01:35:35] four guys who knew this was like the [01:35:36] longest wind up ever. We're going to do [01:35:38] it. We're going to do it. Oh, we're [01:35:41] doing it. And then it still is. there [01:35:44] was like no deception involved here. Um [01:35:47] it must be that the idea was that Israel [01:35:49] was able to get within their networks [01:35:51] and inside their networks. Maybe Iran [01:35:54] thought negotiations were coming Sunday, [01:35:56] but even they could see the writing on [01:35:57] the wall of what Israel was doing and [01:35:59] they could tell they had no intelligence [01:36:01] network of when Israeli airplanes took [01:36:04] off from Israel. Anyway, Blake, help me [01:36:06] understand this. It's it's perplexing to [01:36:09] me. I mean, it's not an easy one to [01:36:12] answer to be honest. I guess the most [01:36:13] boring take is they were able to hit [01:36:16] them with this forewarning because [01:36:18] perhaps Israel has the intelligence to [01:36:20] say we know that uh like when there is a [01:36:25] war that's going to break out, actually [01:36:26] this is this is their safe house. This [01:36:28] is where they're actually supposed to go [01:36:30] when they worry that Israel is going to [01:36:32] launch some sort of strike on them. It [01:36:33] could it could be an answer like that. [01:36:35] Uh, Israel's intelligence service has [01:36:37] always been a lot more effective than [01:36:40] ours. Uh, the CIA has a long legacy of [01:36:42] extremely embarrassing failures. Uh, [01:36:44] MSAD has has a history of successfully [01:36:48] assassinating its enemies in foreign [01:36:50] countries. They've done it in Egypt. [01:36:52] They've done it in the United Arab [01:36:54] Emirates. They've done it in Lebanon. [01:36:56] They have done it apparently in Iran. We [01:37:00] may not know anytime soon exactly how [01:37:02] they pulled it off, but they have the [01:37:05] talent for this. Now, how they were [01:37:07] caught off guard by the strikes [01:37:09] themselves, [01:37:11] I don't know. It It seems like Yeah, we [01:37:13] knew it was coming. At some point knew [01:37:15] it was coming. At some point, you're [01:37:16] like, can at some point, let's go to [01:37:19] like the the most rural remote part of [01:37:21] Persia in a bunker, right? I mean, at [01:37:24] some point, you're like, okay, we're not [01:37:26] ex then. Still, it's just it's just [01:37:27] really it's either cockiness or remember [01:37:30] this is um [01:37:32] 30 seconds because then we got to say [01:37:35] the the beeper uh attack they were able [01:37:37] to conduct uh just a few months ago was [01:37:40] very significant in terms of their intel [01:37:41] operations and shows a high degree of [01:37:43] capability. So I I wouldn't wouldn't put [01:37:45] anything past him. [01:37:48] So this is the final thought here. [01:37:49] Israel has attacked at least six [01:37:51] military bases around Tran, including [01:37:53] parian residential homes at two highly [01:37:55] secure complexes for military commanders [01:37:57] and multiple residential buildings [01:37:59] around Tran, what appears to be target [01:38:01] assassinations, according to four senior [01:38:03] Iranian officials. [01:38:05] So, in closing here, we're going to have [01:38:07] to throw off to the Real America's Voice [01:38:08] gang and crew. They do a great job. [01:38:10] Thank you guys for allowing us to [01:38:11] interlude. Um, this is I want to make [01:38:13] sure I get this handoff correctly here. [01:38:16] Um, before we do that, I want to keep on [01:38:18] hearing your thoughts. freedom [01:38:19] charlariekirk.com. That is freedom [01:38:21] charlariekirk.com. [01:38:22] Uh for the RAV audience, we're going to [01:38:24] send you guys back to Studio 6B. But [01:38:26] again, I want to hear your thoughts. Are [01:38:28] you supportive or not? And look, I I I [01:38:31] am pro-Israel here. Um and of course, [01:38:33] I'm America first first and foremost. [01:38:35] I'm very worried that this could [01:38:36] escalate into a war that could uh then [01:38:38] draw America in, but Israel is a [01:38:40] sovereign country. They made a decision. [01:38:42] President Trump says, "Look, this is [01:38:44] what you wanted. Knock yourself out." [01:38:45] They did it without American support, [01:38:47] American help. I am afraid of what this [01:38:49] could escalate towards. We're going to [01:38:50] keep a close eye on it. We'll be [01:38:51] broadcasting live tomorrow. We'll also [01:38:53] be at our Young Women's Leadership [01:38:54] Summit. So, email us [01:38:55] [email protected]. [01:38:56] Subscribe to our podcast and back to [01:38:58] Studio 6B. [01:39:04] Don't crime is death.
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[00:00:00] very very inland. I hope people [00:00:02] understand. I mean, that is incredibly [00:00:03] inland. We saw this developing [00:00:05] throughout the night. Well, you know, [00:00:07] their night, but our afternoon we were [00:00:08] like, "This is happening. This is [00:00:10] happening." And it's amazing how many [00:00:11] people who think they actually know [00:00:12] what's going on are like super surprised [00:00:14] on chats like what's happening. I'm [00:00:16] like, "Guys, this is the last couple [00:00:18] hours if you weren't paying attention, [00:00:19] this is what was happening." So, walk us [00:00:21] through the map. Uh Blake Blake, why [00:00:23] don't you do this? We have the map of [00:00:24] Iran on screen here. Just the geography [00:00:27] of the entire region. This was a [00:00:28] multi-hour flight from Israel to Iran. [00:00:31] Blake, this is a major operation. [00:00:33] Please, um, Blake, walk us through it. [00:00:36] Yeah, exactly. So, Iran's not as big as [00:00:38] the United States, but it is a a fairly [00:00:40] large country. I think if you overlaid [00:00:42] it, I think it'd be about the size of [00:00:44] maybe one quarter of the United States, [00:00:46] maybe even one-third of the of like the [00:00:48] continental United States. So, it's a [00:00:49] it's a large country, and it doesn't [00:00:52] border Israel. In fact, you have to fly [00:00:53] over at least two additional countries [00:00:56] to get there. Uh they probably flew over [00:00:58] Jordan and Iraq and it's a long flight. [00:01:02] Uh if you look at that map, you can see [00:01:04] little kind of red cylinders, red [00:01:06] pillars. Those are their uranium [00:01:09] enrichment plants. So that's where [00:01:11] they're taking uranium and they're [00:01:14] running it through centrifuges to make [00:01:15] it enriched uranium, which is what you [00:01:18] would use for a nuclear weapon. And so [00:01:21] those are almost certainly the primary [00:01:23] targets. There are already reports of [00:01:25] explosions there. We will see if those [00:01:27] are confirmed. Uh maybe we'll actually [00:01:29] get video of it eventually. Uh but those [00:01:32] will be the places that you want to hit [00:01:33] if your desire is to take out a nuclear [00:01:36] program, but they're in the mountains. [00:01:38] Uh I believe at least one or both [00:01:40] facilities. They're built underground, [00:01:42] so they're difficult to get to. So [00:01:44] there's been a lot of talk about how [00:01:45] this would unfold because the US has [00:01:48] some very heavy, we call them bunker [00:01:50] busting munitions. They're designed to [00:01:52] pulverize very deep underground [00:01:55] facilities, but Israel doesn't have [00:01:58] access to those weapons and we've been [00:02:00] hesitant to supply them or give them any [00:02:02] access to them. And so, if we're not [00:02:04] involved in this, there's been talk that [00:02:06] Israel may have to modify its plans. [00:02:08] They may have to strike it several times [00:02:10] so they could strike it, see if there's [00:02:11] any damage, do follow-up hits, and so [00:02:14] on. But these are difficult places to [00:02:16] reach. They would be flying several [00:02:19] probably about two or three hours to get [00:02:21] there and then a similar amount of time [00:02:23] to get back. Uh they're deep inside [00:02:25] Iranian airspace. They are presumably [00:02:29] well defended. So we may learn maybe [00:02:33] whether any planes were shot down or [00:02:34] whether there's any attempt to shoot [00:02:36] them down. We're going to be seeing this [00:02:38] all unfold very quickly. Uh you know [00:02:40] this is breaking news all within the [00:02:42] last 20 minutes. [00:02:45] And so, so Jack, help help everyone in [00:02:47] the audience understand kind of the [00:02:48] timeline here. I mean, on on Sunday, [00:02:51] there were supposed to be more talks. [00:02:52] Why did Israel strike even though there [00:02:54] were more talks between the United [00:02:56] States and Iran and kind of short [00:02:58] circuit that? Please. I mean, Jack, tell [00:03:00] us this is a little confusing to our [00:03:02] audience. [00:03:04] Well, Charlie, as we've seen from [00:03:06] President Trump, uh, President Trump was [00:03:08] very explicit on this and al even back [00:03:11] in April when Prime Minister Netanyahu [00:03:14] came to the White House and was really [00:03:17] pushing for strikes on Iran to be [00:03:21] conducted jointly between the United [00:03:23] States and Israel. Uh, this those [00:03:26] strikes of course were rejected by [00:03:28] President Trump. that plan was rejected [00:03:30] and it was reported that there were some [00:03:31] other elements of the uh of the [00:03:34] administration or at least the US [00:03:36] government at large that were also [00:03:38] working on planning those potential [00:03:40] strikes. Uh this has been something that [00:03:42] Israel has wanted for a long time. [00:03:44] Strikes on the nuclear program. [00:03:45] Obviously they've been targeting their [00:03:46] nuclear programs uh for a decade plus at [00:03:49] this point ever since they embarked on [00:03:52] it in the first place. Of course, this [00:03:54] is all about uranium enrichment. And [00:03:56] this has become the sort of a jump ball [00:03:58] between what you're seeing with the [00:04:00] neocons and the more uh I would say the [00:04:03] the anti-war crowd out there. One crowd [00:04:06] pointing to saying, well, wait, there is [00:04:08] no nuclear weapons program in Iran. The [00:04:10] neocons's pointing to well, there's this [00:04:12] continued uranium enrichment which could [00:04:14] potentially be used for nuclear weapons [00:04:17] even if there isn't a nuclear weapons [00:04:19] program. And so this being the impetus [00:04:22] for wanting to have a preemptive strike [00:04:24] as we're seeing right now. And of course [00:04:26] the political situation in Israel [00:04:28] obviously quite chaotic given everything [00:04:30] that's gone on since the end of the [00:04:31] ceasefire back in March between Israel [00:04:34] and Gaza, the situation with the Hamas [00:04:36] terrorists going on, the ongoing war [00:04:39] there. So a lot of chaos in their [00:04:41] internal politics as well. even a uh a [00:04:44] vote on potential early elections that [00:04:46] took place just last night in the [00:04:48] Knesset in Israel which Netanyahu [00:04:50] survived but I believe by less than 10 [00:04:53] votes out of the 120 member here's what [00:04:56] I don't understand is that I'm not an [00:04:57] expert though [00:04:59] so but I we we don't yet know where all [00:05:01] the strikes are we are seeing here on [00:05:04] understand is that an expert though they [00:05:06] why am I hearing myself back like five [00:05:08] seconds later hold on okay so why why [00:05:11] are they striking tan [00:05:13] on the map. There's no nuclear [00:05:15] facilities in Tran. Am I mistaken here? [00:05:17] Oh, there are there's a research [00:05:19] reactor. Reactor. Okay, got it. So, and [00:05:22] who knows, but striking the capital [00:05:24] seems to be a major escalation. Blake. [00:05:26] Yeah, I don't want to presume. There [00:05:28] could be any number of reasons. It could [00:05:30] be that there are military facilities [00:05:32] there they want to hit. So, that could [00:05:34] be like elements of their military [00:05:35] command structure. Maybe that's where [00:05:37] some of their like fighters are based or [00:05:39] their like air defenses. So there's any [00:05:42] number of reasons they could hit it [00:05:43] because presumably they're banking on [00:05:46] even if they want to strike the nuclear [00:05:48] targets, there's so many potential [00:05:51] complications to this depending on how [00:05:53] Iran chooses to strike back, whether [00:05:56] they choose to strike back, that it'd be [00:05:58] highly unlikely that the only thing they [00:06:00] would hit would be just the nuclear [00:06:03] sites. And so I don't know what they [00:06:06] would be aiming at, but there's any [00:06:07] number of possible reasons they would go [00:06:09] for it. [00:06:12] Okay, so this is happening uh live right [00:06:14] now. For those of you that just tuning [00:06:15] in, uh Israel has launched preemptive [00:06:18] military strikes on the interior of Iran [00:06:20] against nuclear reactors. So Jack, I [00:06:23] want to throw this to you as from an [00:06:24] intel standpoint. Um you could kind of [00:06:26] see this building yesterday. You saw Tom [00:06:28] Cotton and Lindsey Graham say, "Hey, you [00:06:31] know, are they close to a um a bomb in [00:06:34] Iran? Are they close to a bomb in Iran?" [00:06:36] The skeptics would say that well we've [00:06:38] been hearing that for the last 30 years [00:06:40] that Iran is close to a nuclear weapon [00:06:42] close to a nuclear weapon. So so Jack as [00:06:45] from an intel standpoint was Iran close [00:06:47] to nuclear weapon. Now the way it the [00:06:49] question of is doesn't really mean [00:06:51] anything. So tell us you know what what [00:06:54] is really going on here and can we trust [00:06:56] the intel agencies? [00:06:59] Well, Charlie, this of course has been a [00:07:01] one of the most uh fractured debates [00:07:04] that's gone on from the intel community [00:07:06] and uh members of the US political [00:07:09] community as well as the Israeli [00:07:11] political community as I mentioned [00:07:12] before with uh Prime Minister Netanyahu [00:07:15] really pushing for these strikes of [00:07:16] course for quite some time uh years in [00:07:19] many cases and has directly targeted [00:07:20] these facilities uh with variety of [00:07:22] cyber attacks and other attacks over the [00:07:24] years. The question comes down to and [00:07:27] the intel community's official [00:07:28] assessment. Everyone I've talked to in [00:07:30] the intel community has always and and [00:07:32] even from my time there has said that [00:07:34] Iran did not have an active weapons of [00:07:38] mass destruction program in the sense [00:07:41] that uh you know in in the sense of [00:07:44] having a a actual nuclear weapons [00:07:46] program. But what they were doing was [00:07:47] this uranium enrichment and this the end [00:07:50] of question of course and even by the [00:07:52] way even DNI Gabbard who many people [00:07:54] pointed to say that's obviously she's no [00:07:56] hawk even she pointed out that their [00:07:59] uranium enrichment was much higher at a [00:08:01] much higher yield than anyone would need [00:08:04] for only a uh a fuel program or only for [00:08:07] nuclear energy. And so a lot of the war [00:08:09] hawks have been pointing to that saying, [00:08:11] look, it's clear that they're going to [00:08:12] do this in order to uh in order to try [00:08:15] to ratchet up their their ability for um [00:08:19] their ability for escalation. And so one [00:08:21] of the things though that people have [00:08:23] pointed to is say, well, Iran, you know, [00:08:25] back the back and forth has always been, [00:08:26] well, Iran was doing that because there [00:08:28] is no Iran deal. Trump of course ended [00:08:31] Obama's Iran deal that which was a total [00:08:33] uh total handoff to them back in 2018. [00:08:36] he ends this thing after the pallets of [00:08:38] cash and he had run on it of course back [00:08:41] in 2016 the Obama uh deal and and so [00:08:45] after ending that deal that's really [00:08:47] when Iran pushed towards this enrichment [00:08:50] to say we're going to essentially kind [00:08:52] of have a middle ground of saying well [00:08:54] we're not start restarting the program [00:08:56] but we are enriching this uranium which [00:08:59] of course puts them in a situation to [00:09:00] say well they could would potentially be [00:09:02] able if they chose to use that in a [00:09:05] weapon at any time. That being said [00:09:07] though, um you know, that's that's my [00:09:10] distillation of the intel on both sides [00:09:12] there. That being said, we do know that [00:09:15] Iran had been and it seems in good faith [00:09:17] conducting these negotiations with Steve [00:09:19] Whit uh having meetings with him as [00:09:22] appointed by President Trump. We saw [00:09:24] President Trump earlier today saying [00:09:26] that he had directed all members of his [00:09:29] administration to pursue negotiations [00:09:31] and diplomatic means of working with [00:09:34] Iran to end this uh to end this [00:09:37] potential threat and prevent of course [00:09:39] prevent Iran from getting a nuclear [00:09:41] weapon. And something where you've also [00:09:43] seen in reports I believe the Guardian [00:09:44] had actually put out at one point that [00:09:46] there were there was a potential for [00:09:48] Russia to come in and be the guarantor [00:09:50] of this program. And Russia, of course, [00:09:52] being the country that finished the [00:09:54] building of the Busher nuclear power [00:09:55] plant, which we had on the map a minute [00:09:57] ago, that's there on the coast. That is [00:09:59] their completed nuclear power plant, the [00:10:01] only one uh functional within Iran right [00:10:03] now. It needs that water source. Can't [00:10:04] really be in the mountains or the [00:10:06] desert. And so this had been a potential [00:10:10] triangulation, if you will, of the [00:10:12] negotiations between Ukraine, Russia, [00:10:15] Israel, and Iran to say if the Russians [00:10:19] were able to come in, uh this would be [00:10:21] something that Obama's Iran deal had [00:10:23] never considered. Although it is kind of [00:10:25] similar to one of the Syria deals prior [00:10:27] to the red line back in 2013 where [00:10:29] Russia came in and was the guarantor of [00:10:31] Syria's chemical weapons. Uh China also [00:10:34] played a small role in that. And so [00:10:36] there was a really a lot of potential [00:10:38] for talk regarding this. Now of course [00:10:41] it remains to be seen what what will [00:10:43] happen because we don't know what the [00:10:45] fallout will be both locally from again [00:10:48] whether or not these facilities were [00:10:50] destroyed. Uh I think there are a lot of [00:10:52] questions as to whether or not Israel [00:10:53] had the capability of actually being [00:10:55] able to really take out the program [00:10:57] given the fact that they are [00:10:58] underground. Blake was mentioning that [00:11:00] Israel doesn't have the bunker buster [00:11:01] bombs that the US has to be able to go [00:11:03] after those underground facilities. And [00:11:06] then of course whether or not Iran [00:11:07] decides to blame the United States or [00:11:09] claim this is some kind of proxy attack [00:11:11] and cancel the negotiations. So a lot of [00:11:14] that is going to be up in the air uh [00:11:17] just as the Israeli jets are up in the [00:11:19] air right now over Iran. [00:11:22] This is this has such incredible [00:11:24] geopolitical implications here. Blake on [00:11:26] the ground. what is going on in Israel [00:11:28] and do we know the the the breadth or [00:11:31] the depth or the scale of these military [00:11:34] strikes and walk our audience through [00:11:36] exactly the technical side of what just [00:11:39] happened probably what's happening right [00:11:40] now there are probably jets still right [00:11:42] now we know this certainly in the air [00:11:44] that are coming back from Israel and we [00:11:46] kind of saw this happening real time in [00:11:48] our group chats were like oh there are [00:11:50] sources that hear jets over Iraq there [00:11:52] are sources I mean and we kind of had a [00:11:54] little bit more of a heads up than that [00:11:56] and Blake Before you do that, everybody [00:11:57] watching, I want to hear from you. [00:11:58] Freedom charliekirk.com. Do you support [00:12:01] Israel striking Iran preemptively? I [00:12:03] want to hear from you. Freedom at [00:12:05] charliekirk.com. We're very interested. [00:12:07] Freedom charliekirk.com. Blake, your [00:12:09] thoughts. Okay. Yeah. So, first of all, [00:12:12] for if you want the absolute breaking [00:12:14] stuff, I'm monitoring um Israeli news [00:12:16] sites uh the Jerusalem Post Harts. Those [00:12:18] are going to be where you get any info [00:12:20] from the Israeli government, the IDF as [00:12:23] quickly as possible. Also, of course, on [00:12:25] X, it was very funny how, you know, we [00:12:27] were seeing on X, oh, reports of planes [00:12:29] flying, reports of explosions, and then [00:12:32] I'm looking at the New York Times, I'm [00:12:33] looking at CNN. It takes them ages to [00:12:36] catch up to the basics that something is [00:12:38] happening. Are you kidding me? And yeah, [00:12:39] yeah, we were I think we were live [00:12:40] before CNN even had a little, you know, [00:12:43] thing up top. But I want to read what's [00:12:45] uh Jerusalem Post has kind of a breaking [00:12:48] steadily updated thing where they're [00:12:50] getting the info from the IDF, the [00:12:52] Israeli Defense Forces. And so what they [00:12:55] say is first of all, there are warning [00:12:56] sirens have been set off to get the [00:12:58] public ready for a potential Iranian [00:13:00] counterattack. No ballistic missiles [00:13:02] have been fired yet, but there are [00:13:03] thousands of them according to the IDF. [00:13:06] So this is their justification for [00:13:08] action. They said that Iran had enough [00:13:10] uranium to weaponize it to nuclear [00:13:12] levels to make 15 nuclear weapons within [00:13:15] days. This is what the IDF says. In [00:13:18] recent days, they say Iran developed a [00:13:21] plan with Hezbollah and Hamas and other [00:13:23] proxies to destroy the state of Israel, [00:13:26] potentially including attempts to attack [00:13:28] via all borders, including Egypt and [00:13:31] Jordan. The IDF says this was quote a [00:13:34] point of no return. Uh Benjamin [00:13:38] Netanyahu has entered the security [00:13:40] cabinet. They're having some high stakes [00:13:42] meeting of the cabinet. It says the I [00:13:44] this might be uh answering your question [00:13:45] about why they would hit Tran. IDF [00:13:48] targets uh include commanders, bases as [00:13:51] well as nuclear sites, though the main [00:13:53] goal is the nuclear sites. Uh the IDF [00:13:56] claims they believe Iran was taken by [00:13:58] surprise and was attacked in places they [00:14:01] did not expect. that would potentially [00:14:04] answer the question of why they would do [00:14:05] it now rather than waiting through the [00:14:07] weekend. There there might have been an [00:14:09] element that they had already given up [00:14:11] on the process but they didn't want to [00:14:12] tip their hand that they had given up by [00:14:15] waiting for negotiations over the [00:14:17] weekend to fail. Uh and then Jerusalem [00:14:21] Post continues here. Israel has had [00:14:23] strong coordination with the US, but [00:14:26] Israeli military officials refused to [00:14:28] say whether America was pre-updated or [00:14:31] fully coordinated into the current [00:14:33] attack. [00:14:35] Um, and that's all the relevant info we [00:14:38] have now. And, uh, they're just they're [00:14:39] constantly adding to this. So, I think [00:14:41] this is statements that are coming from [00:14:42] an IDF person as we speak. And it's [00:14:46] middle of the night there. So, this is [00:14:48] all unfolding. But, help help me [00:14:50] understand though. I I want Blake help [00:14:52] me understand this. So negotiations were [00:14:54] going on. This is the just the news [00:14:55] headline. This is not Charlie Kirk's [00:14:57] opinion. This is just the news from John [00:14:59] Solomon. Just the news headline is this [00:15:01] which is Israel launches attack on Iran [00:15:04] in defiance of Trump's urgings. So help [00:15:07] me like understand. It seems like [00:15:09] negotiations were going on. Do we even [00:15:11] know enough about that? So help like [00:15:14] basically fill in the blanks here. So, I [00:15:17] believe Trump Trump had said like there [00:15:19] was some sort of deadline to make a deal [00:15:21] I think a few months ago and that [00:15:23] deadline was right around now or maybe [00:15:26] it even just passed. But Trump has [00:15:28] always been I mean we know Trump is a [00:15:31] pro peace guy. He'll always say Iran [00:15:33] can't have a nuclear weapon. He is not [00:15:35] willing to allow that to happen. But [00:15:37] he's he's Trump the dealmaker. He's [00:15:39] always going around saying I am want to [00:15:42] make a deal. I'm ready to make a deal. [00:15:44] I'm hopeful for making a deal. and we [00:15:46] saw it just today, he's saying, "I'm [00:15:48] committed to reaching a diplomatic [00:15:50] resolution of this." Now, him saying it [00:15:53] today, there's a couple possible [00:15:55] interpretations. One is he genuinely was [00:15:58] still seeking that deal and, you know, [00:16:01] was trying to message, "Please make the [00:16:03] deal before something happens." Or [00:16:06] there's the possibility they already [00:16:08] knew this was going to happen, but they [00:16:10] wanted to signal communicate that [00:16:12] America is not directly involved. And [00:16:15] we've seen several attempts to [00:16:18] communicate that uh just before the [00:16:20] strikes happened. I believe um Axios I [00:16:23] think was reporting that there was [00:16:25] communication someone in the White House [00:16:27] I think Wickoff said you know the White [00:16:29] House has [00:16:31] disassociated itself from any Israeli [00:16:33] attempt like they might know about it [00:16:35] but they're not cooperating with it. So [00:16:38] whether that's true or not, I think [00:16:40] we're certainly going to see the US [00:16:42] government claim that we were not [00:16:44] involved in this because obviously once [00:16:48] this has happened, our biggest concern [00:16:49] is our biggest concern is are American [00:16:52] troops in Iraq, in Kuwait, in Saudi [00:16:54] Arabia, and whatever bases we have in [00:16:56] the Middle East, are they going to be in [00:16:58] danger of of being hit? [00:17:02] And and so what what does what does the [00:17:04] retaliation then look like? But we got [00:17:06] Tyler Boyer in the chair here, which I [00:17:07] actually want to ask the political [00:17:08] question of Tyler next cuz I am I'm also [00:17:11] this is going to schism terribly online. [00:17:13] I mean, you are going to see I don't [00:17:15] want to say a MAGA civil war, but it's [00:17:17] going to be a MAGA online food fight in [00:17:20] the likes of which um is going to be [00:17:22] very very hard to navigate. We we saw [00:17:24] this coming, but apparently that was not [00:17:27] um as important and that's fine. Maybe [00:17:29] there's stuff that we don't know. But [00:17:30] but Jack, what how could Iran respond? [00:17:33] And what do you have to say, Jack, to [00:17:35] this idea that there might be Iranian [00:17:37] sleeper cells in America that Joe Biden [00:17:41] allowed in the country? We had 10 [00:17:42] million people come into the country. [00:17:44] Are there Iranian sleeper cells right [00:17:46] now in America that then could be [00:17:48] activated by the Mullis? [00:17:51] Well, Charlie, of course, the the answer [00:17:52] is yes. That that could Iran have gotten [00:17:55] sleeper cells in the United States? I [00:17:57] think that's increasingly likely and and [00:17:59] almost certainly they have operatives [00:18:02] within the United States. Also, Iran is [00:18:04] famous for uh having the IRGC or Cuds [00:18:08] force. This was uh formerly head by [00:18:10] headed by Sulammani. Uh that they will [00:18:12] pay operatives who are already in areas [00:18:16] uh that they can't get into themselves [00:18:17] to conduct uh conduct attacks or conduct [00:18:20] sabotage type operations. Look, we just [00:18:22] saw the Ukrainians uh launch this huge [00:18:24] kamicazi drone kamicazi style drone [00:18:27] attack deep within Russian territory. It [00:18:29] would be very easy for Iran to do [00:18:32] something like that or to have smuggled [00:18:33] such types of things across the US [00:18:35] border in the Biden years where there [00:18:37] was no operational control of vast [00:18:39] swaths of the US border other than by [00:18:41] the cartels. Uh so it'd be it'd be very [00:18:44] simple for them to just pay the cartels [00:18:45] to allow them to do such a thing. Um, [00:18:47] when it comes to direct retaliation [00:18:50] though, I think more than likely at this [00:18:52] point unless unless more information [00:18:54] comes in at this point. It seems as [00:18:56] though their retaliation will be [00:18:59] directly and solely against Israel. Uh, [00:19:02] remains to be seen. Of course, if they [00:19:04] wish to strike any US forces within the [00:19:07] region, they certainly can. They have [00:19:08] the capability to do so. Uh, they have a [00:19:11] robust ballistic missile program. They [00:19:13] have two, by the way, they have two [00:19:14] militaries in Iran. the uh regular the [00:19:17] nominal Iranian forces, their regulars [00:19:19] as well as the IRGC, the Iranian [00:19:21] Revolutionary Guard Corps. Those are the [00:19:23] forces that are directly uh directly [00:19:26] subordinated subordinated to the [00:19:28] Ayatollah. So those are the Ayatollah's [00:19:30] forces and the country's forces. It's a [00:19:32] little bit different uh than we do in [00:19:34] the United States as it would be, but uh [00:19:37] certainly they have ballistic missile [00:19:38] capability and I would expect that that [00:19:40] is what they use again in strikes on [00:19:43] Israel. Um, obviously we'll see. You [00:19:46] know, I think Israeli Air Force bases [00:19:48] potentially, whatever bases were used to [00:19:49] conduct this strike would probably be [00:19:51] the most likely attacks. [00:19:54] So, Tyler, let let's talk. I mean, we're [00:19:55] we're monitoring the situation in real [00:19:57] time. Actually, let me just check one of [00:19:58] my sources here. Okay, this is one of my [00:20:01] sources who has Jack, how right were my [00:20:03] sources today? [00:20:05] Uh, Charlie, you you they were I would [00:20:08] say down to the minutes. Down to the [00:20:11] exact minute. Um, so if you guys you [00:20:14] guys can watch all the chattering people [00:20:15] on TV, but we have good sources here. [00:20:17] Yeah. Um, this seems to be like an [00:20:20] allout attack and possibly the start of [00:20:23] another regional war. That is what I am. [00:20:26] Um, that's what again you guys can say [00:20:28] that's not true, but this is from very [00:20:31] very good intel. I mean, I'm seeing here [00:20:33] that uh Jerusalem Post just continues to [00:20:35] update and they say there are mixed [00:20:37] reports of a possibility that Israel has [00:20:40] targeted Iran's chief of staff. That [00:20:42] would be presumably [00:20:44] uh I think I've got his name here, [00:20:46] General Muhammad. [00:20:49] General Muhammad Baryi, chief of staff. [00:20:51] That would be the basically the top [00:20:53] general, you know, like Millie was chief [00:20:54] of staff uh under Biden. I can't [00:20:56] remember who our chief of staff is right [00:20:57] now. Um but like top general. So if [00:21:01] you're trying to decapitate the top of [00:21:03] their military, you've moved beyond just [00:21:06] a limited strike on their nuclear sites [00:21:09] and you are attempting to hobble their [00:21:11] entire military. We need to confirm [00:21:13] that. We need to confirm that. Yes, we [00:21:16] don't know that for sure. This is a [00:21:17] report, mixed reports from Jerusalem [00:21:19] Post. So they're presumably drawing on [00:21:21] Israeli sources what the IDF is saying. [00:21:23] Not confirmed. There's going to be, [00:21:25] let's just say from from the get-go, [00:21:27] we're in a fog of war situation. Uh [00:21:29] we're receiving this information as much [00:21:31] as anybody else. Uh people know people [00:21:34] know who Charlie is. People know who I [00:21:35] am. People know who we know. But that [00:21:37] being said, uh everyone is in the fog of [00:21:40] war on this situation. So just caveat [00:21:42] everything and and we'll do our best. [00:21:44] We'll do our our level best. And if [00:21:45] there's anything that we put out that [00:21:48] ends up being uh being corrected, we'll [00:21:50] certainly make sure to be able to update [00:21:51] that as well. So we're drinking from the [00:21:53] fire hose just as much as everybody else [00:21:54] trying to make sense of this out there. [00:21:57] So yeah, the senior Israeli officials [00:21:59] said high probability that Iran's chief [00:22:00] of staff was eliminated and that Israel [00:22:02] began this attack with direct [00:22:04] elimination of many IRGC commanders. [00:22:07] This is not just a targeted attack [00:22:09] against nuclear facilities based on what [00:22:10] we are reading. This seems like uh [00:22:13] Israel that is calling the bluff against [00:22:15] Iran. And the question is guys, [00:22:18] is this going to drag America into a war [00:22:20] against Iran? [00:22:22] And who wants to take that one? And [00:22:24] that's and that's the real question. I [00:22:25] mean that I think the debate's already [00:22:27] started. It's it's pretty much a [00:22:28] wildfire on X which is you know if [00:22:32] there's one thing if you could probably [00:22:33] sum up President Trump's campaign uh [00:22:36] from 2024 it was that electing me is [00:22:39] going to prevent World War II that I [00:22:42] mean is that fair to say with the the [00:22:44] conversation with Kamla? And so this was [00:22:48] one of the biggest promises if not the [00:22:50] biggest promise of the campaign is with [00:22:52] me you get less war. I'm I'm an anti-war [00:22:54] president. I'm I'm a guy that makes sure [00:22:58] that conflict does not happen across the [00:23:00] world. I'm looking for the best and most [00:23:01] reasonable uh deal to make. I'm the deal [00:23:05] guy. And you know, right now, we kind of [00:23:08] went into this week going, "Well, if [00:23:09] President Trump isn't strong enough with [00:23:12] the the riers in LA, that's going to be [00:23:16] problematic." If President Trump is not [00:23:18] strong enough on the border, we've known [00:23:20] this all throughout um and and and [00:23:22] provides any kind of amnesty to illegals [00:23:25] and to the anti-American protesters that [00:23:29] we've we've seen in California, that's [00:23:30] going to be a problem. Uh but war with [00:23:33] Iran, I would I would argue, is going to [00:23:37] spin out into something here that's much [00:23:39] bigger than what I think we even are are [00:23:43] realizing right now. But they're going [00:23:44] to try to blame Trump for war regardless [00:23:48] of how hard he fights against it. [00:23:51] Uh Israel has also struck in Iran in [00:23:53] Yemen just so we are clear. So this is [00:23:56] uh multi-reional is what it looks like. [00:24:00] Oh boy. Great. Speaker Johnson yesterday [00:24:03] uh announced he's actually going to be [00:24:04] addressing the Israeli Knesset on June [00:24:07] 22nd. Uh so so let me ask the audience [00:24:11] just 10 days from now. Email us [00:24:12] [email protected] if it's true [00:24:15] if it's true and if it's true that [00:24:18] Israel is striking Iran more than just [00:24:23] nuclear facilities and they're going [00:24:25] after chief of staff. According to air [00:24:27] safari who's very very well respected [00:24:30] and is very well sourced. He says quote [00:24:33] high probability that Iran's chief of [00:24:34] staff was eliminated. Iran began this [00:24:36] attack with the direct elimination of [00:24:38] many IRGC commanders. [00:24:41] So, if it is more than just [00:24:44] um targeting Iranian nuclear facilities, [00:24:48] does that change your level of support? [00:24:49] Uh, email us freedom charliekirk.com. [00:24:51] Breaking news from Reuters. Iran's [00:24:53] leadership holds top security meeting, [00:24:55] senior Iranian official to Reuters. Uh, [00:24:58] they are planning an all-out response. [00:25:00] And now I have the second person that is [00:25:02] predicting uh this is going to be a [00:25:05] regional war. quote, "But Gary is second [00:25:07] in command after Quaameni." Uh, and it's [00:25:11] very possible that um the Israel attacks [00:25:14] took him out tonight, man. Holding a [00:25:17] meeting. I hope they're holding it via [00:25:18] Zoom because I feel like I always read [00:25:20] about these meetings getting blown up. [00:25:23] Uh, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, second in [00:25:26] command under and like they're saying [00:25:27] second in command under the Supreme [00:25:28] Leader who is a religious cleric. He's [00:25:31] not a military commander. Um and just [00:25:34] because we've repeated it, IRGC is the [00:25:36] Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. So [00:25:39] main the big main unit of their military [00:25:41] I believe. [00:25:43] So just so we are clear um like taking [00:25:46] out um Berry Bajerry sorry would be the [00:25:49] equivalent of assassinating JD Vance and [00:25:52] Susie Wilds together. That's essentially [00:25:56] how the Iranian government works to the [00:25:58] best of our understanding. that would be [00:26:00] like the combined [00:26:02] um lethality. [00:26:04] So uh the IDF spokesperson has just said [00:26:06] quote the IDF launched a preemptive [00:26:08] strike to damage the Iranian nuclear [00:26:10] program. Dozens of air force aircraft [00:26:12] recently completed the on opening strike [00:26:14] opening strike. Um the public must obey [00:26:17] the homeront commands. Iran has been a [00:26:20] threat for quite some time [00:26:23] and uh looks like oh they they they went [00:26:25] after that more than just nuclear [00:26:27] facilities. [00:26:30] So, how do we how do we think the Trump [00:26:34] uh Netany and Yahoo relations are [00:26:38] where we are right now? Do we look [00:26:39] there's there's going to be I mean [00:26:41] there's going to be hell to pay. Yeah. [00:26:44] If this was done in defiance of Trump. [00:26:46] Well, that's the question. We're seeing [00:26:48] that that's he came out very publicly [00:26:50] today and said negotiations, [00:26:53] negotiations, negotiations. And so the [00:26:58] question is, is BB Netanyahu thinking of [00:27:00] his political calculus in terms of his [00:27:03] survival as prime minister of Israel? [00:27:07] And is he putting that ahead of the [00:27:09] security interests of the Middle East, [00:27:12] his own people, by the way, uh, all of [00:27:14] Israel, and the entire stability of the [00:27:18] region, not to mention what it would do [00:27:20] to the fallout of oil price. Here we are [00:27:22] at the beginning of of summer, folks. [00:27:23] beginning of summer and we've got a war [00:27:26] kicking off in the Middle East which has [00:27:29] and if these indications are true has [00:27:31] all the hallmarks of something that [00:27:34] could incite a wider regional war. What [00:27:36] do you think that's going to do to gas [00:27:38] prices to supplies to everything else as [00:27:41] we look at the very beginning of the [00:27:43] summer? Uh certainly this is not uh this [00:27:47] is not what and and yeah, Israeli media [00:27:50] is now again Israeli media is saying [00:27:53] that this was coordinated with the [00:27:55] United States. Uh let's I'm going to [00:27:57] wait to hear from our own president of [00:27:59] the United States when it comes to [00:28:01] something like that. But of course that [00:28:03] is what they're putting out right now. [00:28:05] Again, we just saw President Trump a few [00:28:08] hours ago say negotiations and of course [00:28:11] there was a lot of reporting. Uh P. [00:28:14] Yeah, that's true. They're just getting [00:28:16] this as IP, but it could be. So this is [00:28:19] this is Secretary of State Marco Rubio [00:28:21] who says the following. Tonight, Israel [00:28:23] took unilateral action against Iran. We [00:28:26] are not involved in the strikes against [00:28:27] Iran and our top priority is protecting [00:28:30] American forces in the region. Israel [00:28:32] advised us that they believed this was [00:28:33] necessary for its self-defense. [00:28:35] President Trump and the administration [00:28:36] taken all necessary steps to protect our [00:28:38] forces and remain in close contact with [00:28:40] regional partners. Let me be clear, Iran [00:28:42] should not target US interests or [00:28:44] personnel. All being said, that is a [00:28:46] very very neutral statement from Marco [00:28:48] Rubio. I um that was not a a supportive [00:28:52] statement at all by the way. That was in [00:28:53] fact that is not a distance. So what [00:28:57] he's trying to do is put distance [00:28:59] between the United States. Look, the [00:29:00] United States has 40 to 50,000 uh troops [00:29:03] in the middle the Middle East at large. [00:29:05] Uh so not Yes, we of course we have [00:29:07] combat troops on and and a variety of [00:29:09] troops on the ground in Iraq and Syria, [00:29:12] but of course we have troops all over [00:29:15] the Persian Gulf. Of course, DoD calls [00:29:17] it the the Arabian Gulf, but I'm not in [00:29:19] uniform right now, so I'm going to say [00:29:20] Persian Gulf because that's what most [00:29:21] people know. And uh and a variety a [00:29:25] variety of t of targets right across the [00:29:27] Gulf. when you're talking about Qatar, [00:29:29] when you're talking about our troops in [00:29:30] Bahrain, our troops in Jordan, our [00:29:32] troops in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, [00:29:35] um just just all over the place. All [00:29:37] over the place. Not to mention, I [00:29:38] believe the Carl Vincent aircraft [00:29:40] carrier, the carrier battle group is [00:29:42] there and uh the Truman is certainly [00:29:44] within the region as well. Plus, we know [00:29:46] that back in April during these uh the [00:29:51] Houthi strikes when all that was going [00:29:52] on, there were B2 bombers that were [00:29:55] flown to Diego Garcia. Now, that's not [00:29:57] within range of Iran, but of course, [00:29:58] there were a lot of people saying that [00:30:00] those bombers could potentially be used [00:30:02] if a wider regional war were to break [00:30:04] out. And well, we could be looking at [00:30:06] the very beginning of a wider regional [00:30:09] war right now. [00:30:12] And you got to believe with that there's [00:30:14] uh Yeah, Tyler, go ahead. I was just [00:30:15] going to say that response from Marco [00:30:17] Rubio. I mean, Marco Rubio historically [00:30:19] has not been a person to shy away from, [00:30:21] you know, in over his the course of his [00:30:23] long career from neoy type, you know, [00:30:27] excitement. It's happened in the past [00:30:29] with him. And so for him to come out [00:30:31] and, you know, obviously he's a changed [00:30:33] man. He's he's a lot of a different guy [00:30:35] today than he was then. But for him to [00:30:37] come out and and and make that very [00:30:39] clear statement, I think is reassuring [00:30:41] for a lot of Trump supporters who are [00:30:43] listening to this. And I hope that [00:30:45] that's the case for most that are [00:30:47] watching this is that the president has [00:30:49] made a commitment and I don't think they [00:30:51] would come out that rapidly that that [00:30:52] fast with that statement if that wasn't [00:30:55] true. Sorry, Charlie. So, no, it's fine. [00:30:58] Um, I I want everyone to email us [00:31:00] freedom charlariekirk.com. So, here's [00:31:02] the sequence that I'm most afraid of. [00:31:04] Let me walk you through it. Israel [00:31:05] strikes. Iran retaliates big time. There [00:31:08] is a regional war. The US is then [00:31:10] pressured to send more aid to Israel. [00:31:13] MAGA will likely resist sending more aid [00:31:16] to Israel based on the emails that I'm [00:31:18] getting right now. And I want to hear [00:31:20] from you guys. Freedom [00:31:21] charlariekirk.com. By the way, there are [00:31:23] initial reports, it's fog of war, that a [00:31:25] high-rise apartment um has seen [00:31:28] partially collapsed in the Iranian uh [00:31:30] capital of Tran. Initial reports of [00:31:33] missiles launched by Iran towards [00:31:35] Israel. [00:31:36] So the question is, do you guys support [00:31:38] sending US money and military aid to [00:31:41] Israel? Email us [00:31:42] [email protected]. We're [00:31:43] getting thousands of emails. I want to [00:31:45] read I want to read them. I want to [00:31:46] analyze what you're thinking in real [00:31:48] time here. And do you believe that this [00:31:50] was an act of self-defense by Israel or [00:31:53] an offensive position? Again, we're the [00:31:56] emails are so largely overwhelmingly [00:31:59] against the um Israel doing this. I'd [00:32:04] say it's probably 99 to1. So, but email [00:32:07] us freedom charliek.com. Jack, your [00:32:09] thoughts? [00:32:10] Well, Charlie, we we did the same thing [00:32:12] with emails earlier uh for human events, [00:32:15] and it was it was a similar ratio. Um [00:32:18] there were a lot of people calling for [00:32:20] saying saying, "Why is this something [00:32:22] that should be done now when we're in [00:32:24] the midst of negotiations? [00:32:26] Why not trust President Trump? Why not [00:32:29] trust the work that Steve Witoff is [00:32:32] doing?" And uh try to find a way where [00:32:35] certainly we know that President Trump [00:32:37] has been committed to peace. This this [00:32:39] obviously is not the path towards peace. [00:32:41] This is the path towards a wider [00:32:43] regional war. And of course hearing uh [00:32:48] with if whether or not it's true that [00:32:50] there were uh strikes in some of these [00:32:52] other regions uh whether it be Yemen on [00:32:55] the Houthis who are Iran's uh proxy [00:32:57] force there or other areas. The goal of [00:33:00] course would be to incite a wider [00:33:02] regional war or perhaps provoke a [00:33:05] unified response from the Arab countries [00:33:07] against the non-Iranian aligned Arab [00:33:09] countries, the Saudis, the Jordanians [00:33:12] and others against Iran and create a [00:33:16] basically a a united front uh from the [00:33:18] GCC countries, the Gulf Cooperation [00:33:20] Council. And so, uh, the question is, of [00:33:24] course, I think on everyone's mind, uh, [00:33:27] how large will Iran's retaliations be? [00:33:30] And quite frankly, how far are these [00:33:33] strikes going to go? Is this the first [00:33:35] round or is this the opening salvo of [00:33:38] strikes? And if it's simply this, uh, [00:33:41] and we can all go to bed, um, perhaps [00:33:44] that's one thing, but I don't think [00:33:45] that's what how it's going to be. [00:33:49] I just saw an interesting also Tyler uh [00:33:52] I I think Tyler there's going to be some [00:33:53] major uh protests and riots in the [00:33:55] country coming up in the next couple [00:33:56] days. Yeah, that's going to be the [00:33:58] interesting breakdown, Charlie, is like [00:33:59] how how is the country going to fall on [00:34:01] this thing? And one one interesting [00:34:03] comment that just came through from a [00:34:05] person I really trust just said, "Hey, [00:34:08] please don't forget, you know, we just [00:34:09] saw the statement from Marco Rubio. Um [00:34:12] that's fantastic. We don't forget that [00:34:15] Kla Harris could be president right now. [00:34:17] Imagine a world in which this happens [00:34:20] today and Kla Harris is your president [00:34:23] or does this happen much faster much [00:34:25] earlier which I think you probably would [00:34:27] have something of of this nature is [00:34:28] probably they're probably a little bit [00:34:30] bummed actually that Trump got elected [00:34:32] because they were wanting to strike much [00:34:35] more quickly and and again depending [00:34:37] upon where you're at on the spectrum [00:34:39] with that but I I'm just so grateful [00:34:41] that Kla Harris isn't president right [00:34:43] now. Can you imagine the amount of [00:34:44] instability [00:34:46] uh that we would have across the world? [00:34:47] She would come out and she would be [00:34:48] like, "So Iran is this big country." Oh, [00:34:53] can you imagine in the Middle East and [00:34:57] they have a nuclear program. A nuclear [00:35:01] program is what enriches uranium to make [00:35:06] big bombs. And yeah, you'd want to die [00:35:10] the whole time. the whole time. She'd be [00:35:12] in front of Congress right now trying to [00:35:14] talk down to Speaker Johnson. It would [00:35:15] just be a terrible, terrible situation. [00:35:18] And to Charlie's point, there's going to [00:35:19] be protests and there's going to be [00:35:20] backlash. And the Democrats are in a [00:35:22] really bad precarious position right now [00:35:24] because they've been the antagonizers of [00:35:26] war uh across the world. And so, you're [00:35:30] not going to have prominent Democrats [00:35:31] coming out and, you know, doing it the [00:35:34] same way that they did it to Trump, to [00:35:35] Bush. that it's not going to be the same [00:35:39] uh you know recourse that they they will [00:35:41] have with members of Congress. So, it's [00:35:43] going to be really interesting [00:35:44] politically how this is going to play [00:35:45] out. That's why I think it's so [00:35:47] important for MAGA to stay firmly on the [00:35:50] side of opposing war. And I think that [00:35:53] that's probably majority of expectations [00:35:55] from Republicans. The probably 8020 I [00:35:58] would guess 7525 somewhere in there. [00:36:05] Uh so the politics of this are quite [00:36:07] interesting but I'm trying to I'm trying [00:36:10] to understand the situation on the [00:36:12] ground. So Iran has declared a [00:36:13] nationwide state of emergency. Netanyahu [00:36:16] says quote this operation will continue [00:36:18] for as many days as it takes. Uh there [00:36:21] are multiple reports of residential [00:36:24] buildings uh that are being collapsed. [00:36:26] multiple residential buildings in Thran [00:36:29] on fire or collapsing after Israeli air [00:36:32] strikes on Iran's capital. So, Jack, uh, [00:36:36] and then this Israeli planning multiple [00:36:38] waves of attack. So, this is just the [00:36:39] beginning, but help me understand, Jack, [00:36:42] if this is just going after nuclear [00:36:44] reactors or nuclear weapons. Are they [00:36:46] striking the apartment buildings because [00:36:48] maybe there were generals there? This [00:36:50] seems a lot broader than just a targeted [00:36:52] strike against Iranian nuclear reactors. [00:36:55] Well, Charlie, that's possible. Also, [00:36:58] they could another possibility could be [00:37:01] and and I think you you see this quite [00:37:03] quite a bit in Ukraine where they may [00:37:06] have been uh conducting attacks and [00:37:08] potentially targeting uh command [00:37:12] structures, command and control [00:37:13] structures within Tyrron. Of course, [00:37:15] that's where Iranian leadership is. And [00:37:18] the reason that you're seeing these hits [00:37:19] on uh apartment buildings and [00:37:22] residential buildings rather than on [00:37:24] command control centers for of the [00:37:26] higher leadership. Um this is what [00:37:28] happens potentially when you see when [00:37:30] you see missiles that are shot down, [00:37:32] when you see interceptors, when you see [00:37:33] debris, when you see these various types [00:37:36] of munitions, you get blowback. And so [00:37:39] that blowback ends up hitting the you [00:37:43] know it might hit the tower but not take [00:37:44] it out uh conduct debris and that's [00:37:46] where you're hitting civilians on and [00:37:49] give getting that collateral damage. [00:37:51] Unfortunately as as uh the parlance is [00:37:53] the civilians do become that damage if [00:37:56] it is one of those situations where [00:37:58] there's a missile shootown from Iranian [00:38:01] air defense missiles or potentially if a [00:38:04] missile malfunctioned as well. I I I [00:38:07] don't think that they would be targeting [00:38:08] directly civilian apartment buildings, [00:38:11] but of course, as you say, if there were [00:38:14] a general or some high level official, [00:38:16] some cleric inside, then that was being [00:38:18] targeted if they were the second in [00:38:20] command. Um, potentially, although the [00:38:22] question is, would they really be living [00:38:24] in a civilian high-rise like that? And [00:38:26] so, a lot of this is going to shake out. [00:38:29] We're still in the fog of war. But this [00:38:31] is war. This is what war is like. Uh [00:38:34] wars are never they never go the way you [00:38:37] think they're going to go. Uh everyone [00:38:38] has a plan until they get punched in the [00:38:40] face and the enemy gets a vote. The [00:38:44] enemy gets a vote. And so this has [00:38:45] always been the nature of warfare from [00:38:48] the very early days. And so we will see. [00:38:52] We will see what happens. Are they able [00:38:54] to ratchet up the escalatory ladder [00:38:57] before Iran can respond with significant [00:39:00] attacks, the ballistic missiles? Will [00:39:02] will Israel be able to shoot down [00:39:05] ballistic missiles with the Golden Dome? [00:39:07] Uh what do Iran's allies do? What does [00:39:09] Russia do? What does China do? Uh what [00:39:13] will is or will American forces in the [00:39:15] region face retaliatory measures? Again, [00:39:19] all of this really coming into question [00:39:21] here as we determine the initial battle [00:39:24] damage assessments from uh from these [00:39:27] what we're being told at least is the [00:39:28] opening salvo of strikes. [00:39:32] Okay, let's go to cut uh 519. This is [00:39:35] the official statement from the IDF 519. [00:39:39] For years, the Iranian regime has called [00:39:41] for the destruction of the state of [00:39:43] Israel, planning and advancing concrete [00:39:45] military plans to do so. Over the past [00:39:48] few months, intelligence has shown that [00:39:51] Iran is closer than ever to obtaining a [00:39:53] nuclear weapon. This morning, the IDF [00:39:57] began preemptive and precise strikes [00:39:59] targeting the Iranian nuclear program in [00:40:02] order to prevent the Iranian regime's [00:40:04] ability to build a nuclear bomb in the [00:40:06] immediate time frame. [00:40:09] We have no choice. We are operating [00:40:12] against an imminent and existential [00:40:14] threat. We cannot allow the Iranian [00:40:17] regime to obtain a nuclear weapon that [00:40:19] would be a danger to Israel and the [00:40:21] entire world. [00:40:24] This operation is for our right to exist [00:40:26] here, for our future and for our [00:40:28] children's future. [00:40:30] The state of Israel has the right and [00:40:32] the obligation to operate in order to [00:40:35] protect its people and will continue to [00:40:37] do so. [00:40:39] The IDF conducted significant [00:40:41] preparations for this operation. We are [00:40:43] well prepared both in defense and [00:40:45] offense to defend ourselves. The IDF [00:40:49] will continue to defend the state of [00:40:51] Israel. [00:40:54] So Blake, I want to throw this to you, [00:40:55] Blake. Is it, and I'm not even taking [00:40:58] aside here, is it self-defense to strike [00:41:00] another country that is threatening you? [00:41:03] Is that a is that a in the rules of war, [00:41:07] in the kind of way that we look at the [00:41:09] doctrine of self-defense? Is striking [00:41:11] another sovereign country self-defense? [00:41:14] I mean, the answer, the frustrating [00:41:16] answer is it depends. uh if if like an [00:41:19] attack is imminent. I think there's [00:41:21] general agreement. Like if you know with [00:41:22] certainty an enemy is about to attack [00:41:24] you, then striking in advance is is I [00:41:30] think most people would concede that [00:41:32] it's acceptable. It's just it's probably [00:41:35] the right move. But the line of course [00:41:38] is when do you actually know that sort [00:41:40] of thing? And when are you actually just [00:41:42] sort of recklessly provoking wars with [00:41:45] anyone you perceive as a threat or if [00:41:47] you're elevating threats in your own [00:41:50] mind and creating them where they [00:41:51] wouldn't necessarily exist otherwise. [00:41:54] Um, and I think something that's [00:41:56] influencing how people feel about this [00:41:58] is, as we've mentioned, you can go all [00:42:00] the way back. I think in 1992 or 1993 is [00:42:02] the first time Netanyahu, I think he was [00:42:05] just a member of the Knesset then, he [00:42:06] said Iran was 3 to 5 years away from [00:42:09] getting a nuclear weapon. And then about [00:42:11] 3 years later, he said they're 1 to two [00:42:13] years away from a nuclear weapon. And [00:42:15] then he said, you know, they're six [00:42:16] months to a year. He was saying that [00:42:18] around the time of the Iraq war. He was [00:42:20] saying that during Obama's [00:42:21] administration. He was saying that [00:42:22] during Trump's first administration, we [00:42:24] have literally been hearing about Iran's [00:42:27] being close to a nuclear weapon [00:42:29] as long as I have been alive. And I'm, [00:42:33] you know, and I'm not 20. I'm I'm I'm [00:42:35] over 30 here. And so they've been [00:42:37] pushing this a long time. And that's [00:42:40] going to color any claims like, oh, this [00:42:42] time we're dead serious. They were about [00:42:44] to build a nuclear bomb. I I just [00:42:48] remember in 2013 so much stuff. Oh, [00:42:50] they're a few months away from having a [00:42:52] nuclear bomb. And then even if they do, [00:42:54] like that doesn't equate to them [00:42:56] actually using a nuclear bomb. So you'd [00:42:58] have to go on to that level, too. Like [00:43:00] Pakistan has nuclear weapons. They're a [00:43:02] Islamic country with like an Islamic [00:43:05] government, and that actually hasn't led [00:43:06] to nuclear war. North Korea is an [00:43:09] extremely loopy country. They have [00:43:11] nuclear weapons. That is scary. I don't [00:43:13] like that at all, but it hasn't led to a [00:43:15] nuclear war. And so [00:43:19] that's going to color how people react [00:43:20] to this. Uh I want to flag cuz we have a [00:43:23] few of these donations. Uh Marishia 91 [00:43:25] said, "Everyone agrees that war is bad. [00:43:27] No one agrees on when war is necessary." [00:43:29] I've got to disagree with that one. I [00:43:31] think uh I'm not sure Lindsey Graham [00:43:32] agrees that war is bad. I think some [00:43:35] people think war is fun. War is [00:43:36] exciting. War gives them that tingle [00:43:39] down their leg that their life has [00:43:42] meaning to it. Yeah. You have to [00:43:43] remember there's some people that [00:43:45] explicitly go into politics because of [00:43:47] war. They that they love war so much [00:43:50] that they go in and and again there's [00:43:52] some really great people who serve in [00:43:54] our military who uh become this war is [00:43:57] their whole life. They've lived it. It's [00:44:00] been part of it. That's why they go in [00:44:01] is to use what they've learned to be [00:44:04] helpful. And there's others that go in [00:44:05] and that have made significant sums of [00:44:08] money from the concept of war. And [00:44:11] there's lots of people who love it. [00:44:16] And and so I guess the question is, [00:44:19] Jack, the escalatory [00:44:22] response here, what could Iran do if [00:44:24] they go all out to try to respond to [00:44:27] Israel? And will they loop the United [00:44:29] States or Saudi Arabia into that? Well, [00:44:32] yeah, Charlie, I like I said, um, in in [00:44:34] any military scenario, your assessment, [00:44:38] you want to usually create two most [00:44:39] likely and most dangerous. So, I I said [00:44:42] earlier that the most likely course of [00:44:45] action will be strikes on Israel's [00:44:48] military, uh, strikes on their uh, the [00:44:52] air force bases that conducted this [00:44:53] attack. Again, attempted strikes. You [00:44:55] know, we'll see if Israel is able to to [00:44:57] counter that. And now as we're learning [00:44:59] more about these strikes on Iranian [00:45:02] leadership, well, I'm sure that Iran's [00:45:04] uh generals and the leaders of their the [00:45:07] IRGC as well as the Mullas, they're [00:45:09] probably going to be calling for strikes [00:45:11] on Israeli leadership as well to I would [00:45:14] say including the Knesset building [00:45:16] itself where Speaker Johnson is supposed [00:45:18] to be speaking himself in just 10 days. [00:45:21] Uh that again depends on the level of [00:45:25] this opening salvo and whether or not [00:45:27] there are more waves of strikes planned. [00:45:30] Uh fighters traveling Mach 2 would take [00:45:32] about two or excuse me 45 minutes to [00:45:35] reach uh Tyrron from Tel Aviv and so you [00:45:39] need about 45 minutes to an hour between [00:45:42] Salvos. So we'll know pretty soon here [00:45:44] since the first round of strikes was [00:45:46] about 1 hour ago. if there's another [00:45:47] round of strikes taking place tonight, [00:45:49] we'll know that pretty soon. Uh it [00:45:51] should be occurring. And so if uh if [00:45:55] they want to go further than that, uh of [00:45:58] course uh hitting Israeli uh energy [00:46:00] infrastructure, hitting Israeli civilian [00:46:02] targets as well as potentially even [00:46:04] threatening uh holy sites of course all [00:46:07] could be on the table. most dangerous [00:46:08] scenario of course could be uh the the [00:46:12] shutting down of the straight of Hormuz [00:46:14] which is a critical choke point at the [00:46:16] end. I know people say it all the time [00:46:18] but just to explain it um that's a [00:46:20] critical choke point. It is the mouth of [00:46:22] the Persian Gulf. It is a very narrow [00:46:25] strip of water uh through which 20% of [00:46:29] the entire world's oil supply flows [00:46:32] through on a daily basis. And so uh [00:46:36] putting mines in the street of Hormuz or [00:46:39] putting out these picket ships from the [00:46:41] the fast attack boats from the IRGC and [00:46:44] the IRGC navy could all be potential [00:46:47] threats to that civilian merchant [00:46:48] shipping and to those super tankers [00:46:50] traveling through the straight of [00:46:52] Hormuz. Uh this would of course royal [00:46:54] energy markets and be used to be able to [00:46:57] essentially hold hostage the entire [00:46:59] world's economy. [00:47:01] So let me ask so Blake do you think that [00:47:03] the Iranian mullers get stronger or [00:47:05] weaker war? [00:47:07] So so so Blake do you think the Iranian [00:47:09] mullers get stronger or weaker with an [00:47:11] attack like this? This can actually [00:47:12] consolidate uh bad guys hold on a [00:47:15] country. Look, the West hates us. [00:47:17] They're attacking us. I know it's hard [00:47:19] to tell, but I could actually see a [00:47:21] scenario where the the bad government [00:47:23] gets more popular here. What do you [00:47:24] think? Yeah, definitely. I think in in [00:47:28] the context of the situation [00:47:31] unless like incredibly strong proof is [00:47:33] offered that they that as the IDF claims [00:47:36] they were about to assemble nuclear [00:47:37] weapons and launch an attack which I it [00:47:41] sounds it's a very strong sounding claim [00:47:43] to me that you could see in the [00:47:45] Jerusalem Post they were claiming that [00:47:47] they were planning to build about a [00:47:49] dozen nuclear weapons. they would be [00:47:50] able to assemble them quickly and they [00:47:52] were planning an attack on Israel [00:47:54] including via the Egyptian and Jordanian [00:47:57] border. They were essentially claiming a [00:47:59] like pan middle eastern plot to attack [00:48:01] Israel like a six-day war type scenario [00:48:03] when you know the overall situation is [00:48:06] Egypt has a peace treaty with Israel. [00:48:07] They've basically stayed out of this [00:48:09] one. Jordan has a peace treaty with [00:48:11] Israel. They've stayed out of this one. [00:48:13] So I'm really interested in what the [00:48:15] basis of that claim is. Uh, and so what [00:48:18] you have is they were in negotiations [00:48:20] with the United States. Obviously, [00:48:21] relations are bad. We've had some [00:48:24] missile exchanges back and forth. Like [00:48:26] there's certainly room to claim this was [00:48:27] already like a very lowlevel war, [00:48:30] especially when you take in to account [00:48:32] that Hamas is to some extent a proxy. [00:48:35] Hezbollah is definitely a proxy of Iran. [00:48:37] There's already a lot of conflict [00:48:39] between the two. But they'll certainly [00:48:41] be able to claim we did not take this [00:48:44] radical step and we were still in [00:48:45] negotiations with the United States. And [00:48:48] combined with the fact that their [00:48:50] population already doesn't like Israel [00:48:52] that much. The wider Middle East doesn't [00:48:54] like Israel that much. I think this is [00:48:56] going to not be great for their [00:48:59] reputation. I imagine Israel's [00:49:00] calculation was this is dangerous [00:49:02] enough. We don't really care about our [00:49:04] reputation on this one. That is going to [00:49:06] be their attitude on it. Now how this [00:49:09] unfolds from here I get scared by the [00:49:11] fact that [00:49:13] our ability to control what happens here [00:49:16] is very limited. Essentially Iran gets [00:49:19] to deci has the chance to decide h how [00:49:22] they want to respond and how much they [00:49:24] want us involved right now. I think our [00:49:26] attitude here you know uh you Charlie uh [00:49:30] Tyler Jack our attitude is we don't want [00:49:32] war. And I think most of MAGA is saying [00:49:34] the same thing. We don't want a war. We [00:49:36] don't want this war to involve us. [00:49:38] That's easy for us to say now, but Iran [00:49:40] has thousands of ballistic missiles. [00:49:42] Now, maybe they shoot all of them at [00:49:43] Israel, but maybe they lobbed them at a [00:49:45] bunch of bases and in 2 days there are [00:49:48] 200 dead US troops who got blown to [00:49:51] smitherines by an Iranian response. [00:49:54] What do we do then? Truthfully, what do [00:49:57] we do then? Like, people are going to be [00:49:59] outraged and hundreds of US troops are [00:50:01] dead. What do we do? And the thing is is [00:50:04] Iran might decide to do that because [00:50:06] they might make the calculation [00:50:09] America lost in Afghanistan. America is [00:50:13] very indebted. America is overstretched. [00:50:16] What if you want to dare America to try [00:50:19] to deploy a 100,000 troops into Iran? [00:50:21] And if people don't visualize this, you [00:50:23] might think, okay, we whacked Saddam. [00:50:25] That was pretty easy. Iraq is a flat [00:50:28] country. It's just a bunch of people [00:50:30] along two rivers in this relatively flat [00:50:32] desert. Iran is three times the size of [00:50:35] Iraq. It has three times as many people [00:50:37] as Iraq did when we invaded it. It's [00:50:39] heavily mountainous. It's heavily spread [00:50:41] out. It has spent way more time [00:50:44] preparing for a war against the United [00:50:46] States. Uh by which I mean like Iraq was [00:50:50] this sort of play army. Like they were [00:50:52] trying to pretend to be America. So they [00:50:54] had tanks and they had dudes with [00:50:56] machine guns and they had fighter jets, [00:50:58] but they were all way crappier than [00:50:59] ours. So we kind of fly over them and [00:51:01] blow them to smitherines and it was, you [00:51:03] know, it was like a video game. Iran [00:51:06] actually like is more self-aware that [00:51:08] they are outmatched by the United [00:51:10] States. So for example, they have a [00:51:11] navy, but it's like all little [00:51:13] motorboats that you can put little [00:51:14] suicide bombers on and you try to sail [00:51:16] them up to a boat and blow it up. They [00:51:18] have a ton of drones. They have a ton of [00:51:20] stuff that is designed for a weak [00:51:23] country fighting against a strong [00:51:26] country. And yeah, we can drop a ton of [00:51:29] bombs on Tran. We can drop a ton of [00:51:32] bombs on any other place. Not as many [00:51:34] because we gave a bunch of them to [00:51:35] Ukraine. But I don't know that we [00:51:38] actually have the ability to just take [00:51:41] 100,000 US troops, 200,000 US troops and [00:51:44] try to occupy Iran in some regime change [00:51:46] war. And I think Iran might realize that [00:51:49] and think, "Make my day, America. We're [00:51:51] going to try to get you sucked into this [00:51:53] because we hate you and we're going to [00:51:56] absolutely ruin your week." And if they [00:52:00] decide to do that, I don't know if we at [00:52:02] this point have the power to stop them. [00:52:04] If they kill hundreds of US troops, I [00:52:06] don't know that there will be the [00:52:08] political will to say, "We have to stay [00:52:10] out of this one." People will want [00:52:11] revenge. [00:52:14] With us now is Steve Bannon, host of [00:52:16] Hold on, Jack. I want to throw to Steve [00:52:18] really quick. Uh, host of War Room here [00:52:20] on Real America's Voice. Uh, do we have [00:52:22] Steve? We don't have Steve. Okay. I was [00:52:24] told that we had Oh, we have John [00:52:26] Solomon. Okay. John is here. John from [00:52:29] just thenews.com. John, you have an [00:52:30] article that's going viral right now [00:52:32] saying that Israel uh defied Trump's [00:52:34] urges. Please tell us about the [00:52:36] reporting, John Solomon, and what led uh [00:52:38] to this incredible uh historic event of [00:52:42] Israel's strike against Iran. Some [00:52:44] breaking news just a few minutes ago. [00:52:46] Marco Rubio telling Iran, "Do not attack [00:52:48] our troops in uh in the Middle East or [00:52:50] anywhere because we did not join Israel [00:52:53] in this attack. Israel acted alone." [00:52:56] That is Marco Rubio's statement just put [00:52:58] out about three minutes ago. Uh there's [00:53:00] a news alert on Justin News. Yeah, [00:53:02] listen. I think the Trump administration [00:53:04] wanted more time to try to get a Iran [00:53:07] deal in place. Uh they believe that Iran [00:53:10] is a little further from having a [00:53:12] nuclear weapon than Israel's assessment. [00:53:14] Not far different months uh in the US [00:53:17] assessment, weeks in the Israel [00:53:19] assessment. Uh and Israel had some [00:53:22] urgency believing that there might have [00:53:24] been another sort of poxy attack in the [00:53:26] wings uh with Lebanon. I think the [00:53:28] president said, "Hey, you feel like you [00:53:29] got to protect yourself, protect [00:53:31] yourself, but we're not sanctioning [00:53:32] this. Uh this is your action, not ours." [00:53:35] And and BB went ahead and did it. So, [00:53:38] we'll see how that plays out. There are [00:53:40] four things going on right now. The [00:53:41] president has a cabinet meeting going on [00:53:42] right now, even as Marco Rubio interest [00:53:45] um issued that statement. Uh the FBI is [00:53:49] uh mobilizing all of its [00:53:51] counterterrorism efforts to make sure [00:53:52] that no Hezbollah cells. We know we have [00:53:54] lots of Hezbollah cells on our soil here [00:53:57] in America. We know some we don't know [00:53:59] some because of what came in during the [00:54:00] Biden years. There will be a full alert [00:54:03] for all counterterrorism [00:54:05] uh outfits in the country to be looking [00:54:06] for any suspicious activity that would [00:54:09] suggest that Israel Iran has given some [00:54:12] signal to its sleeper cells here to [00:54:14] attack on US things and all military [00:54:17] personnel have been on alert for two [00:54:18] days already in the Middle East but [00:54:20] they'll be watching for all signs that [00:54:22] Iran tries to drag as you said drag US [00:54:25] into this attack by attacking our [00:54:27] troops. Um, all of that is right uh [00:54:30] ongoing as we speak right now. But it is [00:54:32] true that Trump didn't want this attack [00:54:34] tonight. He told Netanyahu, "If you got [00:54:37] to do it because you feel like you have [00:54:38] an imminent threat, you do it, but you [00:54:40] do it on your own and you you you have [00:54:42] to deal with it what the consequences [00:54:44] are." So, we're watching things really [00:54:45] closely. I think Marco Rubio's statement [00:54:47] very important. It's a very strong [00:54:49] statement. It's very seldom that the US [00:54:51] has said, "Hey, Israel's on their own on [00:54:53] this one." But that's what Rubio just [00:54:54] said. [00:54:56] Well, so John, how does that then [00:54:57] manifest from military aid, missiles? [00:55:00] Because if Israel is going to get into a [00:55:02] regional or a kinetic war, then at what [00:55:05] I mean is does that mean Israel is on [00:55:08] their own, no more foreign aid? Because [00:55:09] I can tell you right now, our audience [00:55:10] is so against what Israel is doing right [00:55:12] now, just looking at the emails, does [00:55:14] this mean that the US US aid to Israel [00:55:17] is over? I don't think so yet. I listen, [00:55:20] Donald Trump has still been a strong [00:55:22] supporter of Israel. Uh Donald Trump has [00:55:24] fresh in his mind the atrocities that [00:55:26] Iran allowed and funded and caused to [00:55:29] happen on October 7th which was their [00:55:31] 911. I think the president will give him [00:55:34] uh Netanyahu some room. I think we will [00:55:36] continue to support them in the short [00:55:38] term. That's the guidance I got earlier [00:55:40] today. The Trump White House knew this [00:55:42] was going for two days, so there's been [00:55:44] no surprise about it. Um it really comes [00:55:46] down to how does Iran react in the next [00:55:50] uh several days? Does it try to drag [00:55:52] another Western or American ally into [00:55:54] this? Attack Saudi Arabia, attack Iraq, [00:55:57] attack our troops and some of our [00:55:59] forwardleaning bases in the Middle East. [00:56:01] That will have one calculation. I think [00:56:03] Iran is pretty smart to know that they [00:56:06] don't want to poke the bayer unless [00:56:07] they're ready for a real war. Uh, keep [00:56:09] in mind that some of Iran's military [00:56:11] production has been diverted to Russia. [00:56:13] So, it doesn't have as uh full a [00:56:16] compliment as it would have had two [00:56:18] years ago before the Ukraine war began [00:56:20] sucking up resources from Russia. So, [00:56:23] that's the another piece that it goes [00:56:24] into the calculus. My guess is this is a [00:56:27] four or five day operation between both [00:56:29] sides. Then there'll be a truce and then [00:56:31] America will go back to the bargaining [00:56:33] table and say, "Let's not have another [00:56:35] one of these. Let's get this done." Now, [00:56:37] if Israel hits successfully a major [00:56:39] nuclear site and Iran is really upset u [00:56:42] and they actually cause damage and set [00:56:44] the program back, Iran might want to [00:56:46] prolong it. But we'll wait and see. A [00:56:48] lot needs to be sorted out. There's [00:56:50] always propaganda in the early moments [00:56:51] of the war. Some of Israel's statements [00:56:53] tonight, we just don't know if they're [00:56:54] true, right? We don't know if there was [00:56:55] a planned attack at the border. We don't [00:56:57] know uh if there's been some [00:56:59] acceleration. We do know one thing. [00:57:01] About two hours ago, the UN atomic [00:57:04] weapons agency said that Iran is more [00:57:07] out of compliance than it's been in a [00:57:09] long time on its nuclear obligations. Uh [00:57:11] that is something that comes from a uh a [00:57:14] body that's more generally sympathetic [00:57:16] to Iran. It is a warning sign that Iran [00:57:18] might be uh moving ahead with a nuclear [00:57:20] weapon, but um I think the US is going [00:57:23] to let Israel fight this on its own, but [00:57:25] not pull support, the normal support we [00:57:27] give the country. [00:57:30] Okay. So um question here John. So the [00:57:33] Iranian uh jets are now airborne heading [00:57:36] towards Israel look looks like according [00:57:38] to reports and so the this this will [00:57:42] likely escalate in the coming days. Um [00:57:46] how do you see this as far as the MAGA [00:57:48] movement? What do you think the [00:57:50] sentiment is amongst the rank and file [00:57:52] politically? Um because that kind of [00:57:55] very tepid response from President Trump [00:57:58] is uh very very telling and illuminating [00:58:01] and also undermines all the talks that [00:58:04] were planned coming up on Sunday. John. [00:58:07] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, I uh I think [00:58:11] the MAGA movement is going to take its [00:58:12] cues from President Trump. They trust [00:58:14] President Trump. He has created a far [00:58:16] more stable world just in the first four [00:58:18] or five months. They'll be looking for [00:58:20] cues from the president. Marco Rubio's [00:58:22] statement is the first you Iran, we [00:58:25] didn't do this. This is your beef with [00:58:27] Israel. You take it up with them. Now, [00:58:29] if Iran tries to drag us in, American [00:58:32] sentiment in the MAGA movement will move [00:58:33] very quickly. And Donald Trump, as he [00:58:35] has shown previously when he took out [00:58:37] Solommani in 2020, won't hesitate uh to [00:58:40] use military might. And uh we could we [00:58:43] could harm is Iran pretty heavily pretty [00:58:46] quickly. I know uh a ground war is not [00:58:48] of anyone's interest, but our air [00:58:50] superior our air superiority over Iran [00:58:53] would be significant. Their drones [00:58:55] wouldn't work on us because we don't [00:58:56] have a significant forwardleaning [00:58:58] location where they can deploy their [00:59:00] drones. Uh we could we could put some [00:59:02] big hurt on it. I think Iran knows that. [00:59:04] Um how this plays out, I think it's [00:59:06] about a seven or eight day war. I think [00:59:08] Iran and Israel will fight it out until [00:59:10] they get tired for a while and then [00:59:11] they'll take a pause and assess the [00:59:13] damage and then that's Donald Trump's [00:59:16] moment to get people to the bargaining [00:59:17] table and see if he can resume [00:59:19] negotiations. [00:59:21] Okay, let's play BB Netanyahu's [00:59:23] statement. Play cut 523, please. [00:59:26] Moments ago, Israel launched Operation [00:59:29] Rising Lion, a targeted military [00:59:32] operation to roll back the Iranian [00:59:34] threat to Israel's very survival. This [00:59:38] operation will continue for as many days [00:59:40] as it takes to remove this threat. For [00:59:44] decades, the tyrants of Thran have [00:59:46] brazenly, openly called for Israel's [00:59:49] destruction. They backed up their [00:59:51] genocidal rhetoric with a program to [00:59:54] develop nuclear weapons. In recent [00:59:57] years, Iran has produced enough [00:59:59] highlyenriched uranium for nine atom [01:00:02] bombs. Nine. In recent months, Iran has [01:00:06] taken steps that it has never taken [01:00:08] before. Steps to weaponize this enriched [01:00:11] uranium. And if not stopped, Iran could [01:00:14] produce a nuclear weapon in a very short [01:00:17] time. It could be a year. It could be [01:00:19] within a few months, less than a year. [01:00:22] This is a clear and present danger to [01:00:24] Israel's very survival. [01:00:28] So, so John, the counterargument that [01:00:30] people will say is that we have been [01:00:31] we've been hearing that for the last 20 [01:00:33] to 30 years, John. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, [01:00:35] that's true. Listen, we certainly heard [01:00:37] it for the last 10 or 15 years. Um, and [01:00:39] then there was a pause with the 2016 [01:00:42] Obama deal, though Iran did continue to [01:00:45] work behind the scenes. I will tell you [01:00:46] this. Uh I've always taken the grain of [01:00:48] salt that Iran's getting really close to [01:00:50] a nuclear weapon. But in the last eight [01:00:52] months, uh both people who are very [01:00:54] liberal and have been very supportive [01:00:56] and tolerant of um Iran have told me [01:00:59] they have really accelerated. Uh we're [01:01:02] seeing a a level of behavior we haven't [01:01:04] seen. That was really the message today [01:01:06] in the UN atomic weapons um uh statement [01:01:10] that came out which I think surprised [01:01:11] Iran. They didn't think that was coming. [01:01:13] Uh the Trump intelligence people believe [01:01:15] that there has been an acceleration. [01:01:17] That's why they moved more aggressively [01:01:19] into negotiations. Remember, Donald [01:01:21] Trump wasn't that interested in Iran [01:01:23] negotiations during the uh uh election. [01:01:26] But he he saw the intelligence when he [01:01:28] came in and he made a calculated [01:01:30] decision that's in the world's interest [01:01:31] to try to negotiate. I do think there's [01:01:33] been an acceleration based on the 360 [01:01:36] degree view of sources that I've talked [01:01:39] to. Were they days away from having a [01:01:41] nuclear weapon? No. Did Israel have more [01:01:44] time to give the United States time to [01:01:45] negotiate? Yes. Uh unless there was some [01:01:48] border attack or um Hamas attack that we [01:01:51] didn't know about, but Hamas has spent [01:01:53] down. Hezbollah is expent out. Uh it [01:01:56] does feel like Israel just arbitrarily [01:01:57] picked this day based on all the intel I [01:01:59] have. But we'll let this play out for a [01:02:01] couple days. We might learn some things. [01:02:03] Um I do think Marco Rubio's line is [01:02:06] probably the line the Trump [01:02:07] administration will take for the first [01:02:08] few days until things sort itself out. [01:02:12] Jack, do you have a question for John [01:02:14] here? Uh Jack Pasobic um here on Real [01:02:16] America's Voice. Jack, uh they were [01:02:19] telling me there was some uh there was a [01:02:22] routing issue. So, I don't know if the [01:02:23] way that I'm in that John can hear me, [01:02:25] but I guess I I suppose going back to [01:02:28] John's and if someone can relay this [01:02:30] going back to John's question regarding [01:02:32] the sleeper cells. Hey, Charlie, I might [01:02:34] need you to interpret because I don't [01:02:36] have a feedback. I would like like to [01:02:38] hear more about what we know about [01:02:39] potential sleeper cells that came in [01:02:40] under Biden. [01:02:43] John Jack says he wants to know about [01:02:44] sleeper cells that came in under Biden. [01:02:46] Oh yeah, that is a really really big [01:02:50] concern inside the FBI inside the larger [01:02:53] intelligence committee. We there were [01:02:54] some here already. We thwarted an attack [01:02:57] in 2011 and 12 against uh the Saudi [01:03:00] Arabia via ambassador Ab Al Jabar. Uh [01:03:04] but we barely caught that. We got lucky [01:03:06] on that one. And the open border allowed [01:03:09] so many people to come in. You saw all [01:03:11] those passports that Ben shows on air [01:03:13] all the time. A lot of them were [01:03:15] Iranian. Uh there is grave concern that [01:03:17] there are far more than we know of. The [01:03:19] FBI since the moment Cash Patel got in [01:03:22] has put a big press in to get all the [01:03:24] identities of anyone they think could be [01:03:26] even remotely associated with radicals. [01:03:29] Uh but three months isn't enough to undo [01:03:32] the damage of four years of Joe Biden. [01:03:34] So that is the gravest concern and uh [01:03:36] you know we deal with some of these uh [01:03:39] lone actors and even al-Qaeda is the [01:03:41] rookie leagues of terrorism compared to [01:03:43] Hezbollah. Hezbollah are the best of the [01:03:45] best and they probably sent their best [01:03:47] sleeper cells to America. So it is [01:03:49] something that we're all going to have [01:03:50] to be on alert. Uh hopefully Iran will [01:03:53] take Donald Trump at his word that we [01:03:54] aren't behind this. We don't support it. [01:03:56] We still want a negotiation and if you [01:03:58] poke this bear, you're going to regret [01:04:00] it. [01:04:02] the uh according to CNN, the entire [01:04:04] Iranian general staff, including the [01:04:06] head of um all military, several senior [01:04:09] Iranian nuclear scientists, all [01:04:11] eliminated tonight. Uh intel uh suggests [01:04:14] uh so their targets. I can tell you I [01:04:17] can tell you from talking to Israel in [01:04:19] the last couple hours that this was more [01:04:21] than just a nuclear strike. This was a [01:04:23] decapitation strike against their [01:04:25] military, particularly the uh Republican [01:04:27] Guard leadership. Uh, so they're [01:04:29] achieving more than just a preemptive [01:04:31] nuclear strike. They're trying to wipe [01:04:32] out the military control and command [01:04:34] capabilities of their best officers. [01:04:38] Yeah. And so Iran is a big country and a [01:04:41] proud country. John, I want to play this [01:04:43] here. Actually, let's play cut 526. This [01:04:45] is CNN's reporting. First, Caitlyn, uh, [01:04:49] something I just heard from a senior [01:04:51] Israeli official who says that according [01:04:53] to Israeli assessments, uh, there are [01:04:56] very high chances that the entire [01:04:59] Iranian general staff, including the [01:05:01] head of the Iranian general staff of the [01:05:03] Iranian military and several senior [01:05:06] Iranian nuclear scientists, were all [01:05:09] eliminated in the Israeli strikes [01:05:12] tonight. [01:05:15] So here's where our audience is a little [01:05:17] confused, John. It was told to be a [01:05:20] nuclear issue. If it was just about [01:05:22] taking out nuclear reactors, then I [01:05:25] guess also taking out the entire senior [01:05:27] military command. So help us understand [01:05:30] that. As I said, uh these early [01:05:33] statements that Israel give often has a [01:05:35] little bit of propaganda. It often has a [01:05:37] little bit of misdirection. Listen, I'm [01:05:39] not unconvinced that when the president [01:05:42] said uh he had sent um Wickoff back as [01:05:45] an ambassador that it wasn't a head fake [01:05:46] to make the Iranians sick, they had more [01:05:48] time because the Iranians were even [01:05:51] though Donald Trump signaled for two [01:05:52] days, I can tell you from what I've [01:05:55] heard on the ground and from our own [01:05:56] intel before I got on air here, the [01:05:58] Iranians were caught a little flatfooted [01:06:00] even though they were being told. So, [01:06:02] it's possible that Wickoff and the idea [01:06:04] that he was coming back to the region [01:06:05] might have lulled them into some [01:06:07] complacency. They were caught a little [01:06:09] bit flatfooted. They could have all been [01:06:11] at a meeting preparing thinking they had [01:06:13] another day before Israel how what's our [01:06:14] war plan and Israel could have sniped [01:06:16] them tonight. Uh that is what happens [01:06:18] when war gets started, right? All rules [01:06:20] are set aside. And um I I know for [01:06:23] certain from talking to my Israeli [01:06:25] sources that beyond the nuclear reactor [01:06:28] targeting, there was a decapitation [01:06:30] strategy to get some of the Iranian [01:06:32] National Guard and those generals that [01:06:34] were most capable in the nuclear warfare [01:06:37] to be knocked out denied if they could [01:06:39] get. [01:06:41] John, please uh tell the audience how [01:06:43] people can support Just the News, some [01:06:44] of your reporting, and what are you [01:06:45] keeping your eye on most closely in the [01:06:48] coming hours and days? [01:06:50] FBI response is going to be number one. [01:06:52] Are they concerned? Do they begin to [01:06:53] issue terrorism warning on our site? Do [01:06:55] we wake up tomorrow morning to any news [01:06:57] that US troops have been engaged by Iran [01:07:00] o overseas? Uh I'm hoping not. I think [01:07:03] the Trump administration right now has [01:07:04] some level of confidence that won't [01:07:06] happen. Uh but those are wild cards that [01:07:08] change this dynamic very quickly for the [01:07:10] United States. Everybody can keep up [01:07:12] with us at just the newsws.com and Jay [01:07:14] Solomon reports on all social media [01:07:15] including Truth. [01:07:18] Thank you so much, John. Really [01:07:19] appreciate it. Thank you. Great to be [01:07:20] with you guys. [01:07:22] All right, Blake, Jack, catch us up. [01:07:24] What are we reading? What are we seeing? [01:07:27] Uh, nothing too immediately breaking [01:07:30] now. I mean, it's just the standard [01:07:31] stuff. You have the narratives of um [01:07:36] obviously the possibility that the [01:07:38] general staff member is that the general [01:07:40] staff is getting taken out. I I really [01:07:42] don't want to like underplay that. That [01:07:45] would be a huge escalation. You see, [01:07:47] there's always this dance. Uh some [01:07:50] people have said this could be a big [01:07:51] nothing burger because of course we had [01:07:53] we've had exchanges with Iran in the [01:07:55] past. We took out um what was what was [01:07:58] his name? Uh their the Republican guard [01:08:01] the revolutionary guard commander that [01:08:03] we that we blew up and then you know [01:08:05] after that yeah they then they kind of [01:08:08] buzzed our bases and then there was some [01:08:10] stuff where you know Iran shot a few [01:08:12] missiles at Israel's way. They've done [01:08:15] it twice. [01:08:16] So, we have these like minor engagements [01:08:20] back and forth, but like now you're just [01:08:22] taking out the very top of their [01:08:24] military structure. You're hitting stuff [01:08:25] that wasn't hit before. [01:08:28] It's not going to invite the same scale [01:08:30] of response as before, I believe. [01:08:36] Jack, what are we seeing? I'm having [01:08:37] some audio issues here. So, Jack Oh, [01:08:39] Jack, we lost Jack. [01:08:42] Jack is gone. Jack not up. Uh I I need [01:08:46] to I need to fix some uh feedback issue [01:08:48] here for a second. So um Blake talk [01:08:52] about this here. Um [01:08:55] residential buildings targeted in Tran. [01:08:57] Um top Democrat on US Armed Services [01:09:00] Committee condemns Israel's reckless [01:09:03] escalation. Um Israel believes that the [01:09:06] chief of Iranians u nuclear scientists [01:09:09] and program and IDF uh was killed. So [01:09:12] Blake, is it fair to say this is beyond [01:09:14] just the strike on nuclear facilities? [01:09:16] Yeah, very clearly it's beyond that. We [01:09:19] have I mean we're blowing up buildings [01:09:21] in Tran that that is not their nuclear [01:09:23] program. Their nuclear program is these [01:09:26] enrichment facilities that are in the [01:09:27] mountains of Iran. They're underground. [01:09:29] They're hard to hit. You're not going to [01:09:31] be seeing a lot of footage of those [01:09:32] getting hit because they're not where a [01:09:33] bunch of people are. But when you see [01:09:35] them hitting buildings in Tran, that's [01:09:37] them going after uh Iranian Iranian [01:09:40] officials, Iranian generals, Iranian [01:09:43] military command and control. It's the [01:09:45] stuff you'd expect in, you know, if [01:09:48] they're preparing for a normal war that [01:09:50] they're worried about the conventional [01:09:51] response of the Iranian forces. So, this [01:09:54] is not merely a strike on their nuclear [01:09:57] program. It's I mean, it's the opening [01:09:59] volley of what could be an extended air [01:10:01] war. And I shudder to say potentially [01:10:04] some sort of ground war. Like they don't [01:10:06] have a land border with Israel, but they [01:10:08] have a land border with Iraq. That [01:10:10] that's a country where we have soldiers. [01:10:12] There's a lot of room for this to [01:10:13] escalate. And a big thing to know about [01:10:15] wars is once they begin, they evolve in [01:10:20] directions that nobody can predict and [01:10:21] you can't necessarily expect and you [01:10:23] definitely can't control. [01:10:27] To put this into perspective, Charlie [01:10:30] and Blake, the Democrats right now are [01:10:33] more concerned about Senator Padilla [01:10:36] right now than they are anything having [01:10:38] Jeff like did a post about 37 minutes [01:10:41] ago after after this had begun just Oh [01:10:44] yeah, I'm talking about this other [01:10:45] thing. No, it's they are completely [01:10:48] focused. They're completely trying to [01:10:50] offiscate [01:10:52] any kind of responsibility on either [01:10:55] side of the this major major world [01:10:57] changing like to your point world [01:10:59] changing issue. I mean this is going to [01:11:00] be a historical moment probably for how [01:11:04] uh how relations turn out. We we talked [01:11:06] a little bit in the chat about Russia [01:11:08] what Russia's response is going to look [01:11:09] like in the midst of war with Ukraine. [01:11:11] Uh there's it's going to be a very [01:11:13] interesting moment that happens now [01:11:14] where things have to move, dominoes have [01:11:16] to fall and the Democrats the best they [01:11:19] can do, the best they can muster up. [01:11:21] Chuck Schumer, Hakee Jeff, Nancy Pelosi, [01:11:25] all of their most recent posts within [01:11:27] the last hour, last few hours have been [01:11:30] about Alex Padilla and him, you know, [01:11:34] rightfully getting thrown to the ground. [01:11:37] So, this is how unserious the Democrat [01:11:39] party is. And this is part of the reason [01:11:40] why the Democrats are losing so much [01:11:42] ground with the American people is that [01:11:44] we're watching, you know, really serious [01:11:47] things happen right now. And you have [01:11:49] really serious players at the table [01:11:50] like, you know, former Senator Marco [01:11:53] Rubio who's now Secretary of State who's [01:11:55] who's been doing an incredible job. He's [01:11:57] getting extremely high approval ratings, [01:11:59] some of the highest that we've seen out [01:12:01] of administrative members for the last [01:12:04] three presidents. and these that we [01:12:07] can't even get the Democrats to come out [01:12:09] of their hole to give their response and [01:12:12] they they clearly don't have one and [01:12:14] that's bad for America because what the [01:12:17] Democrats are doing is they're posturing [01:12:19] to politicize whatever the result of [01:12:21] tonight's going to be. So, you know, the [01:12:23] answer John Solomon was just talking [01:12:25] about what happens tomorrow. You were [01:12:26] talking about what happens tomorrow when [01:12:29] Americans die. And that's where the big [01:12:32] boys actually have to make a decision on [01:12:33] what do we do as a as an American [01:12:35] people? What are the decisions that we [01:12:36] have to make? What's the listening that [01:12:37] we have to do to people? And you have [01:12:39] half of Americans represented, [01:12:42] effectively half of Americans, slightly [01:12:44] less this this last election represented [01:12:47] by Democrats who have nothing to say. [01:12:51] and they are they are torn ideologically [01:12:54] within their own party in defending [01:12:58] Jewish people and going after uh Jewish [01:13:02] people and so the Jewish people and and [01:13:04] their identity that around [01:13:08] so that's we're in a really put these [01:13:11] headphones on interesting time right now [01:13:12] where we are going to be really [01:13:14] determining whether or not the Democrat [01:13:16] party is going to be living up to the [01:13:18] task to gain any seats in Congress. [01:13:21] Because the net outcome of this could be [01:13:23] is that Trump handles this really well [01:13:25] shows and gives congressional leadership [01:13:27] a nice kick in the in the in the tush [01:13:30] which is that you know a lot of people [01:13:32] have had a lot of bad negative things to [01:13:34] say about Congress because of a lack of [01:13:36] ability to pass basic cuts and now we [01:13:40] have a real conflict on on our hands and [01:13:42] the Trump administration being able to [01:13:44] show up and handle this correctly and [01:13:45] appropriately and be a true world leader [01:13:48] especially in the shadow shadows of a [01:13:52] really devolving Democrat party is, I [01:13:55] think, a really great opportunity for [01:13:57] Republicans, but this is an opportunity [01:14:00] for us to unify, talk about things, come [01:14:03] together, you know, behind closed doors, [01:14:05] figure out things before you go out and [01:14:06] start spouting off stuff because the [01:14:08] Democrats are positioning themselves to [01:14:11] have a unified message. That's why [01:14:12] they're not saying anything. That's why [01:14:13] they're their last posts are about [01:14:15] Padilla. That's going to be a very [01:14:18] interesting thing what they come out [01:14:19] with. And it may not be very smart. Like [01:14:22] it could be a very uh haphazard [01:14:26] type of move that they make. I mean [01:14:28] Chuck Schumer is clearly not on his [01:14:30] game. Uh Jeffrey's again 37 minutes ago [01:14:33] at 38 minutes 40 minutes ago he's [01:14:35] posting about Padilla in the middle of [01:14:37] all this. You're not you can't be a [01:14:38] serious future speaker of the house. [01:14:41] Like no one can look at that and say [01:14:42] you're serious. Yeah. It's I [01:14:46] we have Jack. No, no. I guys, I was just [01:14:48] going to throw in I know I said this [01:14:49] earlier, but I'm going to say it again. [01:14:51] There's going to be hell to pay between [01:14:54] President Trump and BB Netanyahu if [01:14:57] Netanyahu did this in defiance of what [01:15:00] Trump asked him to do. Uh, this of [01:15:04] course, as we know, has been a huge crux [01:15:06] of their relationship. They've gotten [01:15:08] into it before going back to 2020, even [01:15:11] going back to the Solmani strike. And of [01:15:14] course we know that uh a regional war is [01:15:18] the very last thing that President Trump [01:15:21] campaigned on. It is the very last thing [01:15:23] that he asked for. It's the very last [01:15:25] thing that he wants right now. And so [01:15:27] this idea that President Trump would be [01:15:29] totally okay with this after saying [01:15:31] spending all day saying negotiations [01:15:34] only. The question is what did he say to [01:15:38] Netanyahu? When did he say it? And of [01:15:41] course, what's he going to come back and [01:15:43] uh and respond? And of course, of [01:15:46] course, if Israel does and obviously [01:15:49] this has gone beyond just a strike on [01:15:51] nuclear facilities at this point. And if [01:15:53] if Iran does retaliate by raining [01:15:56] missiles down on Israel, then will the [01:16:00] US be drawn in? And that's the bigger [01:16:02] question here. Will the US with the [01:16:04] again the 40 to 50,000 US military [01:16:07] personnel, the carrier strike groups, [01:16:09] the Red Sea, the Straight of Hormuz, the [01:16:11] bombers down in Diego Garcia, all the [01:16:13] rest of this. Are they going to be [01:16:15] sucked in? Is the United States about to [01:16:17] be sucked into yet another war in the [01:16:19] Middle East? Because that's exactly the [01:16:22] opposite of what I campaigned for, what [01:16:24] President Trump campaigned for back in [01:16:26] Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin. [01:16:29] And I was with him at all of those [01:16:30] states. And I don't think the people of [01:16:32] those rallies were campaigning for a [01:16:34] wider regional war in the Middle East. [01:16:37] Yeah. And I mean, we have right here, [01:16:39] uh, this is just Shane just sent this [01:16:41] over. According to Washington Post, US [01:16:43] defense official says Israel's attack is [01:16:45] likely to provoke a strong Iranian [01:16:47] response and then Israel will likely ask [01:16:50] the United States to help counter Iran's [01:16:52] response. And that is where this is [01:16:55] going to become a real challenge frankly [01:16:59] is like okay it's easy to say we oppose [01:17:02] war now but this it's like terrible is [01:17:06] Iran really has a huge amount of control [01:17:08] over where this goes and they can decide [01:17:12] we want this to be a big thing that we [01:17:14] suck America into. I think that would be [01:17:15] kind of suicidal of them but they are [01:17:18] radical and another thing is is once you [01:17:20] start big wars countries can behave [01:17:22] irrationally. they can decide to expand [01:17:24] things. I mean, if you want to draw in [01:17:26] historical examples, everyone's [01:17:27] endlessly thinking about World War II, [01:17:30] like in World War II, Hitler went and [01:17:33] like declared war on America. We didn't [01:17:35] declare war on him. He declared war on [01:17:37] us. And that was a highly irrational [01:17:40] thing to do. But wars make people behave [01:17:43] irrationally. That is one reason you [01:17:45] should be very, very careful about [01:17:46] starting them. Does Jack, does Trump's [01:17:50] relationship, recent relationship with [01:17:53] Putin change the calculus of this entire [01:17:56] thing? [01:17:58] Well, I think there's going to be a lot [01:17:59] of questions and I would certainly I [01:18:01] I'll say right now, I certainly hope [01:18:03] that the United States is coordinating [01:18:05] on all fronts. Obviously, Iran uh being [01:18:09] right in the backyard of Russia is going [01:18:11] to be a key part of the strategic [01:18:13] calculus between the United States and [01:18:15] Russia visv our negotiations with them [01:18:18] on Ukraine and a host of other fronts. [01:18:20] Again, we know this is what the Russians [01:18:22] have been asking for. Lavrov has said so [01:18:24] many times in all of these meetings and [01:18:26] is said in his meeting with uh Secretary [01:18:29] Rubio as well that what they're looking [01:18:31] for is a wider uh negotiation with the [01:18:34] United States on all fronts, not just [01:18:36] Europe, not just Ukraine, but also the [01:18:39] Middle East and other areas. And this [01:18:41] had been potentially an area where the [01:18:43] Russians could be partners with the [01:18:46] United States. Uh Russia does not has [01:18:49] never said they wanted Iran to have a [01:18:51] nuclear weapon. I Iran having a nuclear [01:18:53] weapon is an issue for Russia even more [01:18:56] than it's an issue for the United States [01:18:59] because if there's regional instability [01:19:01] in the Middle East, that's right in [01:19:02] Russia's backyard. They have borders [01:19:04] throughout that region. They're a key uh [01:19:08] key part of Central Asia. Again, Russia [01:19:10] is a massive land empire. So, they've [01:19:12] got borders from Europe to Central Asia [01:19:14] to the Middle East all the way out to [01:19:17] China and Mongolia in their far east and [01:19:19] even even of course touching Japan in a [01:19:21] sense. And so this strategic calculus [01:19:24] between the United States and Russia [01:19:26] could be absolutely critical right now [01:19:29] between Trump and Putin. And if Trump [01:19:32] and Putin, I'm sure President Trump, by [01:19:33] the way, is talking to a variety of [01:19:36] world leaders tonight. We know the White [01:19:38] House has convened this cabinet meeting. [01:19:40] We know that the situation room has been [01:19:42] active all day at the White House. So [01:19:44] I'm sure that President Trump has been [01:19:46] in communication with many world [01:19:47] leaders. And I would expect that he's [01:19:49] speaking with Vladimir Putin, Xiinping, [01:19:51] and many others this very night. [01:19:58] Yeah, I think and we've got we've got [01:20:00] Charlie jumping back in here right now. [01:20:02] Who's coming back? Good. Yeah. But I you [01:20:05] know I I I think it's going to be very [01:20:07] interesting. You know, some people there [01:20:09] was some speculation that the Ukraine [01:20:13] Russia conflict that's going on right [01:20:14] now. Hello. It plays at a huge uh [01:20:18] Charlie, is that you? Yeah, we got [01:20:19] Charlie. I can't hear you guys, but I [01:20:22] can see you reacting. We can hear you, [01:20:23] Charlie. We'll text you. Hold on. I'll [01:20:25] I'll text him in the chat. We'll get [01:20:27] We'll get Charlie back. We're doing it [01:20:29] live, folks. We're doing it live. Second [01:20:31] round of attacks are happening. I can't [01:20:32] hear you. See why? [01:20:36] We'll get Charlie's audio back. This is [01:20:37] great. If I ever debate Charlie Kirk, I [01:20:38] always want to be like this over stream [01:20:41] where I can hear him but he can't hear [01:20:43] me. Yeah. [01:20:45] But I I this the only way you could ever [01:20:47] you could ever beat him, folks. This is [01:20:48] what happens. This is the fog of war, [01:20:49] guys. Things break down go into the take [01:20:54] down Charlie's mic. You don't know who's [01:20:56] talking force. There's uh there's a lot [01:20:59] of interest. I think that that this [01:21:01] could be a Ukraine war killer out of [01:21:04] this entire thing where it's going to be [01:21:06] changes the entire dynamics of the the [01:21:09] war in Ukraine may come to a rapid close [01:21:12] here based off of this whole thing which [01:21:16] also is a a dynamic of the outcomes from [01:21:19] these strikes that are happening which [01:21:22] is you know maybe there's some immediate [01:21:24] positives that come from that u because [01:21:26] of the concern that I think so many of [01:21:27] us had about that uh you know, Democrats [01:21:30] will shout and scream and say, "Oh my [01:21:32] gosh, no, we are giving too much power [01:21:34] again to Russia and everything else." [01:21:36] It's going to be a very interesting [01:21:37] outcome. But I do think a net positive [01:21:39] of this is perhaps it does close that [01:21:41] window. Perhaps it does bring Russia to [01:21:44] the table. Perhaps it does bring some uh [01:21:47] working together to ensure that there is [01:21:49] peace in the Middle East. But who knows, [01:21:52] you know, guys, and and I'll say this as [01:21:54] well, you know, for for anyone who's [01:21:56] sort of in that we've talked about this [01:21:58] before that sort of like elder [01:22:00] millennial [01:22:01] band or just millennials in general, uh, [01:22:04] the Gen Y's out there. So, speaking to [01:22:08] them as opposed to the the the Gen Z's [01:22:10] and I know Gen Alphas and others who are [01:22:13] watching, I hear my Gen Alpha son in the [01:22:15] other room right now, by the way. uh [01:22:17] that this all reminds us of the post 911 [01:22:21] er era and certainly it reminds me of [01:22:24] the era of going into Iraq and I just [01:22:27] wanted to I wanted to ask you guys if [01:22:28] that you know my memories of that are so [01:22:31] clear and I remember all of the things [01:22:34] that we were told all the this is going [01:22:36] to make the world safer this is going to [01:22:38] be good for America this is going to be [01:22:40] helpful we're shutting down a weapons of [01:22:41] mass destruction program and it's like [01:22:44] it's like I've seen this movie before [01:22:46] and I feel a lot of those same arguments [01:22:49] and a lot of those same uh emotions of [01:22:52] the time. But at the same time is that [01:22:54] you know we've got social media now [01:22:55] we've got this immediate rapid response [01:22:57] from uh from X and you you sort of you [01:23:01] remember that even if you think that the [01:23:05] war is a good idea going into it, it [01:23:08] sort of gives you this this overarching [01:23:10] look where you have the ability to [01:23:12] think, you know, secondary effects, [01:23:15] tertiary effects, those could [01:23:17] potentially be far worse and far wider [01:23:21] reaching than anything that came before. [01:23:23] And how do we know about this? Well, we [01:23:24] have the history of the Iraq war and the [01:23:26] history of the global war on terror, the [01:23:28] recent history, even with the fall of [01:23:30] Kabool that we can point to and say, [01:23:32] "Yeah, this went really really wrong, [01:23:34] even though we thought these were great [01:23:35] ideas going into it." And just for uh [01:23:37] for Tyler and Blake, I didn't know if [01:23:39] you guys had had any reflections or if [01:23:40] it if it just for me, I just I keep [01:23:42] feeling like like it's it's very similar [01:23:45] to that. Yeah. Well, my thought is if I [01:23:48] think about how it feels different from [01:23:50] then, I mean certainly the right is [01:23:53] totally different. The right was in a [01:23:54] very rah rah mood and we should [01:23:56] acknowledge not I guess I should [01:23:57] acknowledge not everyone was. There were [01:23:59] people on the right. Um Pat Buchanan was [01:24:03] one of them. There were others who said [01:24:05] this war would be a mistake. This is not [01:24:07] what conservatism is about. This is not [01:24:09] what putting America first is about. [01:24:12] This is a huge blunder. people warned [01:24:16] about that. I we should remember that. [01:24:18] And [01:24:21] we kind of our blood was up over 9/11. [01:24:24] And I think it's taken a long time for [01:24:26] us to come around to this. But I think [01:24:28] there's now a pretty [01:24:30] widpread acknowledgment that because of [01:24:34] 9/11, because of the national tragedy we [01:24:37] suffered, that we made we made a big [01:24:39] mistake. We got ourselves involved in [01:24:41] conflicts that were had no clear [01:24:43] objective, that had no clear end point, [01:24:46] that were hugely expensive, and that [01:24:49] produced no real long-term good for the [01:24:51] United States. In fact, if you really [01:24:53] want to go back, you could say a lot of [01:24:54] the enduring problems America has right [01:24:56] now that we're trying to solve with [01:24:58] Trump. Go back to that post 911 period [01:25:00] and us making the wrong decisions. We [01:25:02] had a blank check. Bush could have done [01:25:05] anything he wanted after 9/11. He could [01:25:08] have said this happened because we had [01:25:09] an open border and we need to fix that [01:25:13] or the country's doomed and or this [01:25:16] happened because we're dependent on [01:25:17] foreign countries. We need to make sure [01:25:18] all of our manufacturing is in the [01:25:20] United States. Instead, he invaded a [01:25:22] foreign country and he shot the deficit [01:25:25] up super high. And we're still dealing [01:25:26] with both of those things. Uh totally [01:25:30] different country. What I remember is [01:25:32] that America, it felt like we were [01:25:35] invincible. It felt like we could do [01:25:37] just about anything and we were [01:25:39] overconfident and so I definitely feel [01:25:41] different now. We are a nation that is [01:25:44] far more aware of our limitations to be [01:25:47] honest. [01:25:49] Okay guys, here we are. Uh can you hear [01:25:51] me? Okay, everyone good? Yes, we can [01:25:52] hear you Charlie. You hear me? Great, [01:25:54] great, great, great. Okay, so it looks [01:25:55] like the second round of attack is [01:25:57] happening. Everybody, hello. If you are [01:25:58] just tuning in, uh it looks like the um [01:26:01] it is escalating even further. Israel [01:26:03] has decided to strike Iran preemptively. [01:26:06] This is one of the largest preemptive [01:26:08] strikes that we have seen between any [01:26:10] two sovereign countries in quite some [01:26:13] time. And this has huge American [01:26:15] domestic political implications. I'm [01:26:17] going to make a a prediction right now. [01:26:20] These kind of no kings protests that [01:26:23] we're seeing this weekend, they're going [01:26:24] to be hijacked by all the pro Hamas [01:26:25] stuff. We're going to have all [01:26:27] intersectionality back in the streets. [01:26:29] Iran State TV says, quote, unconfirmed [01:26:31] reports say that Israel has martyed [01:26:33] Iranian revolutionary guard chief [01:26:36] Salami. Uh that is from Iranian state [01:26:40] TV. And so this is now going to have [01:26:42] major American domestic implications. [01:26:45] Questions of should we um continue to [01:26:48] finance Israel? Should we um continue to [01:26:51] sell armaments? And as you very well [01:26:53] know, I'm very pro-Israel on this show. [01:26:55] I'm just simply interpreting the [01:26:57] political dynamics here. And I could [01:26:59] tell you right now that the um the the [01:27:04] audience, you guys, freedom [01:27:06] charliekirk.com are not thrilled with [01:27:08] this situation at all. Uh and so right [01:27:10] now, Mike Pence is saying, quote, "Iran [01:27:13] must never have a nuclear weapon. Uh we [01:27:15] must support uh the United States um [01:27:19] with uh information and with resources." [01:27:22] So the question is also I think [01:27:26] fundamentally at its core [01:27:28] how does the American America first [01:27:31] foreign policy doctrine and foreign [01:27:33] policy agenda [01:27:36] let's just say um stay consistent with [01:27:39] this [01:27:41] this this this right now is going to [01:27:43] cause I think a major schism in the MAGA [01:27:46] online community. We're not seeing that [01:27:47] yet though, right Tyler? I mean, I'm [01:27:49] seeing it a a little bit in my X feed, [01:27:51] but Tyler, it seems, you know, I don't [01:27:53] want to say over it's it's not it's [01:27:56] somewhat unified, but what are we seeing [01:27:59] so far in the right-wing community? It [01:28:01] still's early. I mean, it's still early. [01:28:03] So, I But so far, I mean, we were [01:28:05] talking about this because things are [01:28:07] happening very rapidly in real time and [01:28:10] we know war is such a hotly debated [01:28:13] topic, particularly in kind of the new [01:28:15] right, what we call it, like the MAGA [01:28:17] movement. I like the new right. we talk [01:28:18] about all the time which is very [01:28:20] anti-war. Uh so you have a lot of [01:28:22] millennials who uh who voted in record [01:28:24] numbers for Donald Trump this last [01:28:26] election uh who were kind of raised [01:28:28] under that anti- Bush remember Liz [01:28:31] Cheney, the Bushes all endorsed uh [01:28:34] against President Trump basically twice [01:28:36] in a row and they lost they lost big [01:28:39] time because the the right has shifted [01:28:42] so far into the anti-war space. So, this [01:28:45] is a huge deal. But yeah, I think right [01:28:47] now you're seeing a lot of people really [01:28:49] happy with the response from President [01:28:52] Trump's team, from Marco Rubio, his [01:28:53] statement they put out there. I think [01:28:54] that was a brilliant thing to do to make [01:28:56] sure that that that art that statement [01:28:59] is out there. But I think what's coming, [01:29:01] like you said, Charlie, is that there's [01:29:04] going to be uh so many different levels [01:29:07] to this with what we're fighting right [01:29:09] now with all these protests that are [01:29:11] happening uh with the left just going [01:29:13] psychopathic out on the streets trying [01:29:16] to trying to burn things down. It's [01:29:18] going to get hijacked by the well-funded [01:29:20] groups that are out there on the left, [01:29:22] by C4s, political action committees, big [01:29:26] nonprofit groups, C-3s that are all so [01:29:29] pro- Hamas, they're all so pro [01:29:31] anti-Israel that they're not going to be [01:29:34] able to resist to hijack these things. [01:29:36] And so, I think your your your guess is [01:29:39] is is great. It's it's a it's a lot of [01:29:41] great intuition is that we're going to [01:29:43] see a lot of that. And I don't think [01:29:44] Americans are going to love that. And I [01:29:46] think it's actually going to push people [01:29:47] more to the side of Israel because I [01:29:50] think the scariest thing here is is that [01:29:52] we be, you know, it starts this debate [01:29:55] of being really anti-Israel because, you [01:29:58] know, some people might start putting [01:30:00] out there that maybe Israel lied to [01:30:02] Trump or whatever. People will start [01:30:04] running with that narrative. And I think [01:30:06] that that's probably really negative for [01:30:07] the MAGA movement. I think the MAGA [01:30:09] movement needs to focus on, hey, we have [01:30:10] all these like really crazy pro Hamas uh [01:30:14] actors that are on the streets that are [01:30:16] burning stuff down and that's not good [01:30:19] for America and that's here. That's here [01:30:20] right now. And so I think that's really [01:30:22] smart, Charlie, to look at that. [01:30:25] So Jack, help me understand this. If we [01:30:27] knew the attack on Iran was coming, how [01:30:29] were these generals so exposed? I mean, [01:30:32] we're still we're still kind of being [01:30:33] told that Iran was taken by surprise, [01:30:35] that Iran didn't see this coming. help [01:30:38] me understand that because this was like [01:30:40] the longest windup of an attack that [01:30:43] we've seen. In fact, you and I knew this [01:30:44] was happening like hours as it was [01:30:47] developing. Jack Pobic. [01:30:49] Yeah. And and Charlie, even you and I [01:30:52] spoke this morning uh very early and and [01:30:55] heard that it was a strong possibility. [01:30:58] uh we both took to Twitter X and uh were [01:31:02] were posting messaging about it and [01:31:03] people were saying why are Jack and [01:31:05] Charlie posting about uh an Iran you [01:31:08] know strikes on Iran at you know you [01:31:10] know 7 a.m. and 8 a.m. when no one's [01:31:12] talking about that. Then as the day went [01:31:15] further, people started to realize what [01:31:17] was going on and then uh and then yeah, [01:31:19] we got that that confirmation. Charlie, [01:31:21] this remains to be seen exactly what [01:31:23] went down here. So uh there could very [01:31:26] well have been potentially operatives on [01:31:28] the ground, MSAD operatives on the [01:31:30] ground in Tyrron that knew about safe [01:31:33] houses, that knew about these types of [01:31:36] locations, that new sites that they [01:31:37] would be taking into. There are some [01:31:39] reports that Israel may have been uh [01:31:41] deploying weapons that were previously [01:31:43] not known about. So, it's it's possible [01:31:45] that even if the generals were moved to [01:31:47] a safe house or were in concert with [01:31:49] moving, if their forces had been [01:31:51] penetrated by Israeli intelligence, then [01:31:54] they they could have been able to find [01:31:55] out exactly where they were to conduct [01:31:57] these strikes. Again, I'm not saying [01:31:59] that's exactly what happened, but it it [01:32:01] may not be that they were taken by [01:32:02] surprise. It may be very well that [01:32:04] Israel conducted a large-scale [01:32:06] intelligence or even deception operation [01:32:09] to make it seem as if they didn't know [01:32:11] what the locations of these generals and [01:32:12] leaders were, but in fact they did know [01:32:14] after all. There's there's lots of ways [01:32:16] that this can be done. And again, this [01:32:19] is why some of those indications were [01:32:21] given when they were given. The question [01:32:23] of course really, I think, for a lot of [01:32:25] people is what's the what's the scale of [01:32:27] this and how is this going to be [01:32:29] returned? But uh but yes, it it can be [01:32:31] done as we're seeing. [01:32:34] Okay. So like did we talk about the [01:32:36] politics of this? The kind of the next [01:32:38] steps this is going to increase. Blake, [01:32:40] you're kind of a military historian. How [01:32:42] do these things usually end between [01:32:43] Israel? Israel does very well in short [01:32:46] wars and short conflicts. Blake, your [01:32:49] thoughts? Well, what's what's so [01:32:50] different about this one is Israel I [01:32:52] mean they have a lot of wars, but their [01:32:54] wars that are big ones are against their [01:32:57] neighbors. So they have a very strong [01:32:59] track record in wars. Uh you know they [01:33:01] beat Egypt in several wars. They beat uh [01:33:05] Syria in some wars. They fought Jordan. [01:33:07] The six- day war was them versus Egypt, [01:33:09] Jordan, Syria. Those are all countries [01:33:11] that border them. You can have a [01:33:13] conventional land war with them. With [01:33:16] Iran, I mean Iran is far away. Iran is [01:33:18] very big. So like you can kind of have [01:33:21] back and forth bombing. Obviously Israel [01:33:23] has the technology to do that. They just [01:33:25] did this. But it's like they don't have [01:33:27] the air force to like strategically bomb [01:33:30] Iran into like total submission. They [01:33:34] can kind of bomb them as much as they [01:33:36] want, but they don't have unlimited [01:33:37] munitions. We don't even have unlimited [01:33:39] munitions. I mean, Iran is I believe [01:33:41] it's a bigger it's a bigger country than [01:33:43] Ukraine. It has many more people than [01:33:45] Ukraine. And you can see like we see the [01:33:47] limitations of how far munitions can go [01:33:49] in that country. Now imagine you don't [01:33:51] have a land border with that country and [01:33:52] it's even bigger and it's more [01:33:53] mountainous. We don't actually have a [01:33:56] great model for this kind of conflict [01:33:57] for them. Israel is a country that's [01:33:59] fought its immediate neighbors in [01:34:00] conventional wars. It's fought [01:34:02] counterinsurgencies in Gaza, in the West [01:34:05] Bank, and in uh in Lebanon. But this [01:34:09] isn't a conflict that they that we have [01:34:12] a model for how it's going to go. And so [01:34:15] I can't easily say how it's going to [01:34:18] unfold. And that's why I say like we [01:34:20] have to be ready for Iran really does [01:34:22] have the capacity to decide how hot this [01:34:25] war gets. And I feel like we have to [01:34:28] hope that they don't want this to be a [01:34:31] big one. But we may have, you know, it's [01:34:33] possible that we may have set them off [01:34:35] so much they decide to escalate. I I [01:34:38] cannot. First of all, this is a credit [01:34:40] to Israel. I just got to be honest. Can [01:34:41] we put this up on screen? The pictures I [01:34:43] just sent. These are the Iranian [01:34:45] generals, Iranian commanders. So I in [01:34:48] America largely consuming public [01:34:51] information knew that a strike was [01:34:53] imminent against Iran. Okay, it's again [01:34:57] must be a credit to Israel here. How is [01:34:59] it that these four lunatics that work [01:35:01] for just as a side note for the Iranian [01:35:03] Revolutionary Guard who are now all dead [01:35:05] and eliminated when they woke up, did [01:35:08] they really not take precautions to [01:35:10] protect their military leaders? I I this [01:35:13] I I cannot I cannot understand this. [01:35:16] Like I just it is [01:35:19] Blake, can you help me process this? [01:35:21] Like I we all knew this was coming. What [01:35:23] What was it? Cockiness, pride, hubris. [01:35:26] Was it just the bombs were so powerful [01:35:28] or missiles were so powerful they [01:35:30] penetrated any bunkers they might have [01:35:31] been in? Help me understand how these [01:35:35] four guys who knew this was like the [01:35:36] longest wind up ever. We're going to do [01:35:38] it. We're going to do it. Oh, we're [01:35:41] doing it. And then it still is. there [01:35:44] was like no deception involved here. Um [01:35:47] it must be that the idea was that Israel [01:35:49] was able to get within their networks [01:35:51] and inside their networks. Maybe Iran [01:35:54] thought negotiations were coming Sunday, [01:35:56] but even they could see the writing on [01:35:57] the wall of what Israel was doing and [01:35:59] they could tell they had no intelligence [01:36:01] network of when Israeli airplanes took [01:36:04] off from Israel. Anyway, Blake, help me [01:36:06] understand this. It's it's perplexing to [01:36:09] me. I mean, it's not an easy one to [01:36:12] answer to be honest. I guess the most [01:36:13] boring take is they were able to hit [01:36:16] them with this forewarning because [01:36:18] perhaps Israel has the intelligence to [01:36:20] say we know that uh like when there is a [01:36:25] war that's going to break out, actually [01:36:26] this is this is their safe house. This [01:36:28] is where they're actually supposed to go [01:36:30] when they worry that Israel is going to [01:36:32] launch some sort of strike on them. It [01:36:33] could it could be an answer like that. [01:36:35] Uh, Israel's intelligence service has [01:36:37] always been a lot more effective than [01:36:40] ours. Uh, the CIA has a long legacy of [01:36:42] extremely embarrassing failures. Uh, [01:36:44] MSAD has has a history of successfully [01:36:48] assassinating its enemies in foreign [01:36:50] countries. They've done it in Egypt. [01:36:52] They've done it in the United Arab [01:36:54] Emirates. They've done it in Lebanon. [01:36:56] They have done it apparently in Iran. We [01:37:00] may not know anytime soon exactly how [01:37:02] they pulled it off, but they have the [01:37:05] talent for this. Now, how they were [01:37:07] caught off guard by the strikes [01:37:09] themselves, [01:37:11] I don't know. It It seems like Yeah, we [01:37:13] knew it was coming. At some point knew [01:37:15] it was coming. At some point, you're [01:37:16] like, can at some point, let's go to [01:37:19] like the the most rural remote part of [01:37:21] Persia in a bunker, right? I mean, at [01:37:24] some point, you're like, okay, we're not [01:37:26] ex then. Still, it's just it's just [01:37:27] really it's either cockiness or remember [01:37:30] this is um [01:37:32] 30 seconds because then we got to say [01:37:35] the the beeper uh attack they were able [01:37:37] to conduct uh just a few months ago was [01:37:40] very significant in terms of their intel [01:37:41] operations and shows a high degree of [01:37:43] capability. So I I wouldn't wouldn't put [01:37:45] anything past him. [01:37:48] So this is the final thought here. [01:37:49] Israel has attacked at least six [01:37:51] military bases around Tran, including [01:37:53] parian residential homes at two highly [01:37:55] secure complexes for military commanders [01:37:57] and multiple residential buildings [01:37:59] around Tran, what appears to be target [01:38:01] assassinations, according to four senior [01:38:03] Iranian officials. [01:38:05] So, in closing here, we're going to have [01:38:07] to throw off to the Real America's Voice [01:38:08] gang and crew. They do a great job. [01:38:10] Thank you guys for allowing us to [01:38:11] interlude. Um, this is I want to make [01:38:13] sure I get this handoff correctly here. [01:38:16] Um, before we do that, I want to keep on [01:38:18] hearing your thoughts. freedom [01:38:19] charlariekirk.com. That is freedom [01:38:21] charlariekirk.com. [01:38:22] Uh for the RAV audience, we're going to [01:38:24] send you guys back to Studio 6B. But [01:38:26] again, I want to hear your thoughts. Are [01:38:28] you supportive or not? And look, I I I [01:38:31] am pro-Israel here. Um and of course, [01:38:33] I'm America first first and foremost. [01:38:35] I'm very worried that this could [01:38:36] escalate into a war that could uh then [01:38:38] draw America in, but Israel is a [01:38:40] sovereign country. They made a decision. [01:38:42] President Trump says, "Look, this is [01:38:44] what you wanted. Knock yourself out." [01:38:45] They did it without American support, [01:38:47] American help. I am afraid of what this [01:38:49] could escalate towards. We're going to [01:38:50] keep a close eye on it. We'll be [01:38:51] broadcasting live tomorrow. We'll also [01:38:53] be at our Young Women's Leadership [01:38:54] Summit. So, email us [01:38:55] [email protected]. [01:38:56] Subscribe to our podcast and back to [01:38:58] Studio 6B. [01:39:04] Don't crime is death.
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