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[00:00:00] President Trump takes Davos. He backs [00:00:02] off of those gigantic tariffs on the EU. [00:00:04] But did he get a win on Greenland? [00:00:06] That's the big question. We'll get to [00:00:07] all of it first. Three years ago, we [00:00:09] announced the most ambitious project in [00:00:11] Daily Wire history. And then went to [00:00:13] work writing an entire series, filming [00:00:15] across two continents, building [00:00:16] something so audacious, no conservative [00:00:18] media company has ever attempted [00:00:20] anything like it. And now the wait is [00:00:22] finally, finally over. The Pen Dragon [00:00:24] Cycle, Rise of the Merlin, is here, and [00:00:27] you can see it. Episodes 1 and two of [00:00:29] the seven-part cinematic epic are [00:00:30] streaming right now exclusively at [00:00:32] DailyWare Plus. Take a look at the Pen [00:00:34] Dragon Cycle Rise of the Merlin. [00:00:38] What was it like, Merlin, to be alone [00:00:41] with God? [00:00:44] [screaming] [00:00:47] >> Is that who you think I was alone with? [00:00:53] >> Madin, I knew your father. I am yet [00:00:56] convinced that he was not of this world. [00:01:01] >> All men know of the great Talasin. You [00:01:04] are my father and the gods should war [00:01:06] for my soul. [00:01:08] >> Princess Garis, savior of our people. [00:01:14] >> I know what the bull god offered you. I [00:01:17] was offered the same. [00:01:18] >> And [00:01:20] there is a new power at [music] work in [00:01:21] the world. I've seen it. [00:01:24] A god who sacrifices what he loves for [00:01:26] us. [00:01:27] >> We are each given only one life singer. [00:01:30] >> No. And we're given another. [00:01:35] >> I learned of Yazu the Christ. And I have [00:01:37] become his follower. He's waiting on a [00:01:39] miracle. And I think you can give him [00:01:41] one. [00:01:42] >> Trust in Yu. He is the only hope for men [00:01:45] like us. [00:01:46] >> Fate of Britain [music] never rests in [00:01:48] the hands of the great light. [00:01:49] >> Great light. Great darkness. Such things [00:01:53] mattered to me then. [00:01:55] >> What matters to you now, mistress of [00:01:56] lies? [00:01:58] >> You, nephew, [00:02:01] [music] [00:02:03] the sword of a high king. [00:02:07] How many lives must be lost before you [00:02:09] accept the power you were born to wield? [00:02:15] >> So cling to the promises of a god who [00:02:17] has abandoned [music] you. [00:02:18] >> I cannot take up that sword again. [00:02:21] You know what you must do. [00:02:24] >> Great life. Forgive me. [00:02:28] [music] [00:02:33] The time has come to be reborn. [00:02:40] All righty. So, President Trump did [00:02:41] something pretty extraordinary in Davos. [00:02:44] He gave a speech basically going [00:02:45] directly at our European allies, telling [00:02:48] them that they needed to up their game [00:02:49] in terms of defense, in terms of [00:02:51] economics, in terms of their own [00:02:53] national sovereignty. And then he pried [00:02:55] a deal away from Denmark with regard to [00:02:57] Greenland. We'll get into the details of [00:03:00] that because this makes the markets [00:03:02] sanguin. Again, the markets were very [00:03:03] concerned about the possibility that [00:03:05] President Trump was going to hit all of [00:03:07] Europe with these gigantic tariffs based [00:03:08] on a desire for sovereignty over all of [00:03:11] Greenland. give us Greenland or we will [00:03:13] tariff all of you. That is no longer the [00:03:15] case. A deal has been cut. What is that [00:03:17] deal? Well, European allies will claim [00:03:20] that President Trump really didn't get [00:03:21] much in the deal. President Trump [00:03:22] supporters will claim that he got a lot [00:03:23] in the deal. We'll go through the [00:03:25] details that we know about at the [00:03:27] moment. However, the really big story [00:03:29] here is how the president of the United [00:03:31] States is calling on Europe to stand up [00:03:33] for itself. And this of course follows [00:03:34] hard on a speech given by the vice [00:03:36] president JD Vance last year in which he [00:03:38] went to Europe and basically told them [00:03:40] they need to reestablish their borders. [00:03:41] They need to stop falling prey to mass [00:03:43] migration. They need to allow their [00:03:45] markets to actually function. And they [00:03:47] need to move away from a an economy [00:03:51] based largely on Russian oil and heavily [00:03:54] regulated industry. That means that [00:03:56] Europe has been stagnating for decades. [00:03:58] So the president arrived in Davos. It [00:04:00] was a red carpet arrival. Here is what [00:04:02] it looked like. [00:04:04] That is a very, very long red carpet. [00:04:06] That is indeed a very very literal long [00:04:07] red carpet that the president walked [00:04:09] down as he arrived in Davos. And I will [00:04:13] say the president was very funny. He [00:04:15] spoke for quite a while yesterday. He [00:04:18] began by saying that it was good to be [00:04:20] here with many friends and also a few [00:04:22] enemies. [00:04:23] It's great to be back in beautiful [00:04:27] Davos, Switzerland, [00:04:29] and to address so many respected [00:04:31] business leaders, so many friends, few [00:04:34] enemies. [00:04:37] [laughter] [00:04:38] He's always Trump. That's the thing [00:04:40] about President Trump. He he never stops [00:04:41] being Trump. Well, President Trump [00:04:43] started off his speech by saying people [00:04:45] suggest that he is anti-European, but of [00:04:47] course, he's of European descent. He's [00:04:48] both Scottish and German. [00:04:51] I am derived from Europe. Scotland and [00:04:54] Germany. [00:04:57] 100% [00:04:59] Scotland. My mother 100% German, my [00:05:02] father. And we believe deeply in the [00:05:05] bonds we share with Europe as a [00:05:08] civilization. I want to see it do great. [00:05:11] That's why issues like energy, trade, [00:05:13] immigration, and economic growth must be [00:05:15] central concerns to anyone who wants to [00:05:19] see a strong and united west. [00:05:22] Now, the president clocked Europe, [00:05:24] calling it unrecognizable, suggesting [00:05:26] that they had moved away from the [00:05:27] principles that once made Europe the [00:05:29] leading center of civilization. [00:05:32] the places where you come from can do [00:05:35] much better by following what we're [00:05:36] doing because certain places in Europe [00:05:39] are not even recognizable frankly [00:05:42] anymore. They're not recognizable and we [00:05:45] can argue about it but there's no [00:05:47] argument. Friends come back from [00:05:49] different places. I don't want to insult [00:05:51] anybody and say I don't recognize it. [00:05:55] And that's not in a positive way in a [00:05:57] very negative way. and I love Europe and [00:06:00] I want to see Europe go good, but it's [00:06:03] not heading in the right direction. [00:06:05] >> That president said that his goal in [00:06:06] saying all of this wasn't just to dunk [00:06:08] on the Europeans. Obviously, his goal [00:06:10] was to revitalize what he called a [00:06:11] precious culture shared by Americans and [00:06:14] Europeans. Here was the president at the [00:06:16] World Economic Forum. [00:06:18] The explosion of prosperity and [00:06:21] conclusion and progress that built the [00:06:24] West did not come from our tax codes. It [00:06:28] ultimately came from our very special [00:06:30] culture. This is the precious [00:06:33] inheritance that America and Europe have [00:06:36] in common. And we share it. We share it. [00:06:38] But we have to keep it strong. [00:06:41] We have to become stronger, more [00:06:43] successful, and more prosperous than [00:06:45] ever. We have to defend that culture and [00:06:48] rediscover the spirit that lifted the [00:06:50] west from the depths of the dark ages to [00:06:53] the pinnacle of human achievement. [00:06:56] Okay. The president also suggested of [00:06:58] course that the Europeans have failed [00:07:00] themselves in pursuing a green energy [00:07:02] based economy that has been a complete [00:07:04] fail. He is right about this. Germany's [00:07:06] economy particularly has suffered [00:07:07] because of its reliance on so-called [00:07:09] green energy which is to say less [00:07:11] reliable less effective forms of energy [00:07:14] like for example windmills. The [00:07:16] president is not a fan of the gigantic [00:07:18] windmill farms and he made that very [00:07:20] clear. [00:07:21] >> There are windmills all over Europe. [00:07:24] There are windmills all over the place [00:07:27] and they are losers. One thing I've [00:07:31] noticed is that the more windmills a [00:07:33] country has, the more money that country [00:07:35] loses and the worse that country is [00:07:37] doing. China makes almost all of the [00:07:40] windmills. [00:07:42] And yet I haven't been able to find any [00:07:44] wind farms in China. Did you ever think [00:07:46] of that? It's a good way of looking at [00:07:48] it. They're smart. China is very smart. [00:07:49] They make them. They sell them for a [00:07:51] fortune. They sell them to the stupid [00:07:54] people that buy them. [00:07:58] >> You know what? When the man's right, the [00:07:59] man is right. Now, the president of [00:08:01] course also made the case that under his [00:08:04] toutelage, the United States has become [00:08:06] significantly stronger. He talked about [00:08:08] how if America booms, the rest of the [00:08:09] world also booms. This is a domestic [00:08:11] pitch for his constituents. [00:08:14] >> The USA is the economic engine on the [00:08:17] planet. And when America booms, the [00:08:19] entire world booms. It's been the [00:08:21] history. When it goes bad, it goes bad. [00:08:23] The whole we all you all follow us down. [00:08:28] and you follow us up. [00:08:30] >> The president also talked about [00:08:32] immigration in the United States, how he [00:08:34] was ending illegal immigration in the [00:08:35] United States and blowing drug boats out [00:08:37] of the water and some of his domestic [00:08:39] achievements as president of the United [00:08:40] States. [00:08:42] >> But equally importantly, we're cracking [00:08:44] down on more than $19 billion in fraud [00:08:47] that was stolen by [00:08:50] Somalian bandits. Can you believe that [00:08:52] Somalia? They turned out to be higher IQ [00:08:54] than we thought. [00:08:56] I always say, "These are low IQ people. [00:08:58] How do they go into Minnesota and steal [00:09:00] all that money?" And we have, you know, [00:09:02] they're pirates. They're good pirates, [00:09:03] right? But we shoot them out of the [00:09:05] water just like we shoot the drug boats [00:09:06] out. They're not pirating too many boats [00:09:08] lately. Do you notice, [00:09:12] man? The the comedy routine here. Now, [00:09:15] the real message the president was there [00:09:16] to deliver, of course, that the [00:09:17] Europeans ought to be both independent, [00:09:20] but also recognize that they are in fact [00:09:22] reliant on the United States. And so in [00:09:25] that vein, he went after Mark Carney, [00:09:26] who is the prime minister of Canada. Of [00:09:29] course, the reality is that Mark Carney [00:09:31] would not be the prime minister of [00:09:32] Canada if it had not been, I think, for [00:09:33] the trade war declared on Canada by the [00:09:36] United States leading to the elevation [00:09:37] of Carney in the polls in the late [00:09:38] stages of an election against Pierre [00:09:40] Polyv. In any case, Mark Carney gave a a [00:09:44] peculiar address that we discussed a [00:09:46] couple of days ago on the program with [00:09:49] regard to the United States in which he [00:09:51] suggested that the era of American [00:09:52] dominance was over. And Trump basically [00:09:54] said, "Well, that's weird since if it [00:09:56] weren't for us, your continent would be [00:09:57] a little bit more at risk. We are your [00:09:59] defense shield. [00:10:01] >> We're building a golden dome that's [00:10:03] going to just by its very nature [00:10:07] [clears throat] [00:10:08] going to be defending Canada. [00:10:11] Canada gets a lot of freebies from us, [00:10:13] by the way. They should be grateful [00:10:14] also, but they're not. I watched your [00:10:16] prime minister yesterday. He wasn't so [00:10:18] grateful. But they should be grateful to [00:10:21] us. Canada [00:10:23] lives because of the United States. [00:10:25] Remember that, Mark? The next time you [00:10:28] make your statements. [00:10:30] >> Okay. Well, the president also dumped [00:10:32] out the the favorite line of of those of [00:10:34] us on the right, which is that if it had [00:10:35] not been for the United States [00:10:36] involvement in Europe, then everybody [00:10:38] would be speaking German and Japanese. I [00:10:40] mean, it's slightly weird that he was [00:10:42] saying this in Switzerland, where [00:10:43] actually the predominant language is [00:10:44] German, but the general point holds, [00:10:46] obviously. [00:10:48] And then after the war, which we won, we [00:10:51] won it big without us. Right now, you'd [00:10:54] all be speaking German and a little [00:10:57] Japanese perhaps. [00:11:00] After the war, we gave Greenland back [00:11:04] to Denmark. How stupid were we to do [00:11:07] that? [00:11:08] >> Okay, so I mean that history is not [00:11:10] right. Denmark maintained control of [00:11:11] Greenland even during the war. They [00:11:13] signed a defense agreement that allowed [00:11:15] the United States to essentially build [00:11:17] up a military presence on Greenland. In [00:11:21] any case, the president's main mission [00:11:23] here, which was to tell the Europeans [00:11:24] that they really need to up their game, [00:11:26] that was a successful mission. 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The president at Davos [00:14:16] said that he would not use force in an [00:14:18] American attempt to take Greenland. [00:14:21] >> We never asked for anything [00:14:24] and we never got anything. We probably [00:14:26] won't get anything unless I decide to [00:14:28] use excessive strength and force where [00:14:31] we would be frankly unstoppable. [00:14:34] But I won't do that. [00:14:38] Okay, now everyone's saying, "Oh, good." [00:14:41] That's probably the biggest statement I [00:14:43] made because people thought I would use [00:14:45] force. I don't have to use force. I [00:14:47] don't want to use force. I won't use [00:14:48] force. [00:14:50] All the United States is asking for is a [00:14:52] place called Greenland, where we already [00:14:55] had it as a trustee, but respectfully [00:14:58] returned it back to Denmark not long ago [00:15:01] after we defeated the Germans, the [00:15:04] Japanese, the Italians, and others in [00:15:06] World War II. We gave it back to them. [00:15:10] We were a powerful force then, but we [00:15:12] are a much more powerful force now after [00:15:14] I rebuilt the military in my first term [00:15:17] and continue to do so today. [00:15:20] >> Well, the president went on to make the [00:15:22] case for why the United States required [00:15:24] ownership of Greenland. It wasn't enough [00:15:25] just to have military bases there, which [00:15:26] again, under current military [00:15:28] agreements, we absolutely have and can [00:15:30] expand. [00:15:31] And all we're asking for is to get [00:15:35] Greenland including right title and [00:15:38] ownership because you need the ownership [00:15:40] to defend it. You can't defend it on a [00:15:43] lease. Number one, legally it's not [00:15:46] defensible that way totally. And number [00:15:50] two, psychologically, who the hell wants [00:15:52] to defend a license agreement or a [00:15:56] lease, [00:15:58] which is a large piece of ice in the [00:16:00] middle of the ocean where if there is a [00:16:03] war, much of the action will take place [00:16:05] on that piece of ice. Think of it. [00:16:08] >> Okay. So, the president went on to [00:16:09] suggest that this is a small ask [00:16:11] compared to what we have given Europe in [00:16:13] the past. [00:16:15] It's a very small ask [00:16:18] compared to what we have given them for [00:16:21] many many decades. [00:16:24] But the problem with NATO is that we'll [00:16:27] be there for them 100%. [00:16:30] But I'm not sure that they'd be there [00:16:33] for us if we gave them the call. [00:16:37] Gentlemen, we are being attacked. We're [00:16:39] under attack by such and such a nation. [00:16:43] I know them all very well. I'm not sure [00:16:45] that they'd be there. I know we'd be [00:16:46] there for them. Okay. [00:16:48] >> The president then concluded by [00:16:50] suggesting that people could say yes or [00:16:51] they could say no, but we would [00:16:52] certainly prefer yes. [00:16:54] >> So, we want a piece of ice for world [00:16:56] protection [00:16:58] and they won't give it. We've never [00:17:00] asked for anything else and we could [00:17:03] have kept [00:17:05] that piece of land and we didn't. So, [00:17:09] they have a choice. You can say yes and [00:17:12] we will be very appreciative or you can [00:17:15] say no and we will remember. [00:17:19] Okay. So what are the actual contours of [00:17:22] a deal? And the reason we're talking [00:17:23] about a deal is because the president [00:17:24] came out after his speech and he said [00:17:26] that a deal had been reached. A [00:17:28] framework for a deal had been reached. [00:17:30] He put out a statement saying, "Based [00:17:31] upon a very productive meeting that I [00:17:33] have had with the secretary general of [00:17:35] NATO, Mark Rudy, we have formed the [00:17:37] framework of a future deal with respect [00:17:39] to Greenland and in fact the entire [00:17:40] Arctic region. The solution, if [00:17:42] consummated, will be a great one for the [00:17:44] United States of America and all NATO [00:17:46] nations. Based upon the understanding, I [00:17:48] will not be imposing the tariffs that [00:17:50] were scheduled to go into effect on [00:17:51] February 1st. Additional discussions are [00:17:53] being had concerning the Golden Dome as [00:17:55] it pertains to Greenland. Further [00:17:57] information when made available as [00:17:58] discussion progresses. Vice President JD [00:18:01] Van, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, [00:18:03] Special Envoy Steve Whitoff, and various [00:18:04] others as needed will be responsible for [00:18:06] the negotiations. They will report [00:18:08] directly to me. So what exactly is the [00:18:10] deal that delayed this tariff order from [00:18:14] the president of the United States? And [00:18:16] again, I'm glad that we are not doing a [00:18:17] tariff war with the Europeans over [00:18:19] Greenland. That seemed to me a policy [00:18:21] that was at the very best smashing a fly [00:18:23] with a nuclear bomb. It was something [00:18:25] that was driving the Europeans into the [00:18:27] arms of the Chinese. It was causing the [00:18:29] Europeans to reorient away from the [00:18:30] United States on behalf of what would be [00:18:33] at best a marginal military interest for [00:18:36] the United States. So what exactly is [00:18:37] the thing that we are getting? Well, in [00:18:39] order to understand what it is that we [00:18:40] are getting, you first have to [00:18:41] understand the deal that we currently [00:18:42] have with Denmark. There's a 1951 [00:18:45] agreement relating to the defense of [00:18:46] Greenland. It replaced a temporary [00:18:48] wartime agreement from 1941. [00:18:52] It was revised in 2004. The original [00:18:54] 1951 text established that the United [00:18:57] States could establish, use, and operate [00:18:59] specific defense areas. Right? In other [00:19:02] words, we could build bases in [00:19:03] Greenland. And within those particular [00:19:05] areas, the United States had the right [00:19:07] to improve and generally to fit the area [00:19:08] for military use. That meant that we [00:19:10] could construct what we wanted in those [00:19:11] areas, store supplies, we could put [00:19:13] personnel on the ground in those areas. [00:19:16] And that treaty was for an indefinite [00:19:18] duration. So as long as NATO was still [00:19:20] active then the treaty remained in [00:19:23] obligation. [00:19:26] So today presumably there's a an [00:19:29] understanding under a 2004 bilateral [00:19:33] agreement. [00:19:34] It moved from bilateral US Denmark to a [00:19:36] trilateral one because Greenland is now [00:19:38] involved in the negotiations because [00:19:39] they have a level of self-government. [00:19:41] Well, since 2004, the US presence does [00:19:44] require the continued consent of the [00:19:45] people of Greenland, but the reality is [00:19:48] that the people of Greenland have never [00:19:49] objected to the United States having a [00:19:51] military presence there. They don't want [00:19:52] the Russians washing ashore any more [00:19:54] than the United States does. [00:19:58] And again, there there's not a lot to be [00:20:00] said about the expansion of US military [00:20:02] presence. Presumably, if the United [00:20:04] States had asked, then Greenland or [00:20:05] Denmark would have said yes. And if [00:20:06] they'd said no, that would have been a [00:20:08] good predicate for the United States to [00:20:09] really put the pressure on. But there [00:20:12] was no such conflict initiating all of [00:20:13] this. So what exactly is the deal? Well, [00:20:16] according to the UK Telegraph reporting [00:20:18] yesterday evening, Connor Stringer, the [00:20:20] Washington correspondent, and Joe [00:20:21] Barnes, the Brussels correspondent, the [00:20:23] United States will control parts of [00:20:24] Greenland by designating them as [00:20:25] sovereign base areas under the terms of [00:20:27] a proposed deal agreed in Davos. Per the [00:20:30] draft framework which mimics Britain's [00:20:32] agreement with Cypress, American bases [00:20:33] would be considered US territory in the [00:20:35] Arctic region, according to the UK [00:20:37] Telegraph. That framework agreed between [00:20:39] Donald Trump and Margaruti, the NATO [00:20:40] secretary general on Wednesday evening [00:20:42] will ease Danish fears the US is [00:20:44] preparing to annex the semi-autonomous [00:20:45] region entirely. [00:20:47] The framework would allow the United [00:20:49] States to perform military operations, [00:20:50] intelligence, and training while also [00:20:52] facilitating some local development, [00:20:54] including potentially mining for rare [00:20:55] earth minerals without having to seek [00:20:56] permission from Denmark. So that seems [00:20:58] to be the only part of the framework [00:21:00] that is a major change from the 1951 [00:21:02] agreement. Now you can make the case [00:21:03] that granting sovereignty means we no [00:21:05] longer have to worry about any sort of [00:21:07] threat from Greenland's government or [00:21:08] from the Danish government about what we [00:21:10] do in those military areas. Again the [00:21:12] reality is practically speaking that was [00:21:14] not happening. Now theoretically we [00:21:17] could get crossways with them and so [00:21:18] this is a better deal. This is the [00:21:19] United States obtaining sovereignty over [00:21:22] small portions of Greenland. It is not [00:21:24] Greenland becoming the 51st estate or [00:21:26] turning into Trumpland. As far as the [00:21:28] potential mining for rare earth [00:21:29] minerals, which the president is very [00:21:31] focused on given our dependence on [00:21:33] Chinese rare earth minerals, unclear [00:21:35] what extent that is is going to [00:21:37] materialize what that actually means at [00:21:39] this point. [00:21:41] According to one diplomatic source, the [00:21:43] idea was to give Trump a deal. It was [00:21:46] seen as a creative workaround to [00:21:47] President Trump's demands for ownership [00:21:49] of the entire island. [00:21:52] So the the president again does have his [00:21:54] eyes on some rare earth minerals in [00:21:57] Greenland. 80% of Greenland by the way [00:21:59] is covered in ice and it means that the [00:22:01] United States presumably would not have [00:22:03] to seek permits like planning permission [00:22:05] and it would make it somewhat easier for [00:22:06] the United States to station Golden Dome [00:22:08] there. So on that level it's a victory [00:22:10] for the president. Now did we have to go [00:22:13] about it this way? Did we have to scare [00:22:15] the Jesus out of the Europeans in order [00:22:17] to get them to do all of this? Or could [00:22:20] we have simply gone to them and said, [00:22:21] "Guys, we want to build some extra [00:22:23] military bases in Greenland to fight off [00:22:27] the predations of the Russians and [00:22:28] Chinese and also we'd like to make a [00:22:30] deal with you on rare earth minerals." [00:22:33] So, it'll be interesting to see sort of [00:22:35] what is found out over the coming days [00:22:37] about how the negotiations actually went [00:22:39] and what really does materialize here. [00:22:42] Certainly, it doesn't mean the United [00:22:43] States is about to take over all of [00:22:44] Greenland. It is however a more [00:22:46] advantageous situation than we had [00:22:48] before with regard to Greenland. The [00:22:51] question is what is the knock-on effect? [00:22:52] Is this going to mean that Europe sees [00:22:54] the United States as a robust ally that [00:22:56] just wanted a little bit more for its [00:22:58] money or does it mean that Europe is [00:23:00] going to completely reorient away from [00:23:02] the United States seeing in President [00:23:04] Trump's tactics a sort of opening to [00:23:06] move toward Russia to move toward China? [00:23:08] While the president of the ECB, [00:23:10] Christine Lagarde, suggested this is a [00:23:12] major wakeup call and Europe may start [00:23:14] to trend away from the United States. [00:23:17] This is a wakeup call, a bigger one than [00:23:20] we ever had. And I think that Europe is [00:23:23] going to look at its strength, look at [00:23:26] its weaknesses, do a, you know, a big [00:23:28] SWAT analysis and decide what do we need [00:23:31] to do to be strong by ourselves, to be [00:23:33] more independent, to rely on the [00:23:35] internal trade that we do with each [00:23:37] other so that we can just not ignore, [00:23:40] but at least be prepared and have a plan [00:23:41] B uh just in case the normal [00:23:44] relationship is not restored. [00:23:46] Well, Mark Rudy, the head of NATO, [00:23:48] taking a very different attack from [00:23:49] Christine Lagard, clinging to the [00:23:51] alliance with the Americans, recognizing [00:23:53] that it's not going to be quite so easy [00:23:54] for the Europeans to simply shift away [00:23:56] from the United States. [00:23:59] So, you can be assured absolutely if [00:24:01] ever US will be under attack, your [00:24:03] allies will be with you. Absolutely. [00:24:06] There's absolute guarantee. I really [00:24:07] want to tell you this because it is [00:24:08] important. It pains me if you think it [00:24:10] is not. And under your leadership, this [00:24:12] alliance is stronger than ever. [00:24:15] >> Okay. So again, I think that's the right [00:24:16] approach by Mark Rudy, but you can see [00:24:20] why the Europeans are feeling a little [00:24:22] bit peeish right now, and we'll have to [00:24:24] see how they react to everything that's [00:24:25] going on. Are we again entering a period [00:24:28] of a multipolar world order, or is the [00:24:30] president just flexing American muscles [00:24:31] a little bit more than usual in an [00:24:33] attempt to get everybody back on the [00:24:35] same pro America, pro-western page? That [00:24:37] that remains a bit of an open question. [00:24:39] Well, the other subplot to Davos is that [00:24:42] Gavin Newsome showed up. Obviously, I [00:24:44] spoke with the California governor last [00:24:45] week on his program. Not sure what he [00:24:48] was doing in Davos other than running [00:24:49] for president there. He met up with, [00:24:52] wait for it, Alex Soros. So, here is the [00:24:55] thing. If you are going to claim, as [00:24:57] Gavin Newsome is, that he is not in [00:24:59] favor of crony capitalism, that he is [00:25:01] not in favor of broader government [00:25:03] centralization, if he's going to try and [00:25:05] hit the Republicans from the right in [00:25:06] the 2028 election, hanging out with Alex [00:25:09] Soros, who is again the sort of Fredo [00:25:12] Corleó of left-wing politics, right? [00:25:14] He's the dumb son of a smarter father, [00:25:16] George Soros, who is a nefarious figure [00:25:18] in his own right for spreading [00:25:20] far-leftwing principles around the [00:25:21] globe, including in the United States. [00:25:23] Alex Soros has been taking photos for a [00:25:25] very long time with pretty much every [00:25:26] major Democratic politician and then [00:25:28] stuffing money in their pockets. Well, [00:25:30] apparently Gavin Newsome stopped by the [00:25:32] WF and met with Alex Soros. And Alex [00:25:34] Soros put out a statement, quote, "Great [00:25:36] catching up with the real star of the [00:25:37] 2026 World Economic Forum. My friend [00:25:39] Gavin Newsome. So glad he's here calling [00:25:41] out world leaders for believing [00:25:42] appeasement works when it comes to [00:25:43] Trump. It doesn't. It only emboldens him [00:25:45] to become more chaotic and destructive. [00:25:47] World leaders could take a page out of [00:25:48] Newsome's book, It's time to stand tall, [00:25:50] stand firm, and stand united before it's [00:25:52] too late. See, the part of this that's a [00:25:54] little bit bizarre is what is the thing [00:25:55] that they are standing tall against [00:25:56] Trump in doing? What is the thing? If it [00:26:00] comes to, okay, we don't want Trump to [00:26:02] simply grab Greenland, I get it. But if [00:26:03] the idea is that broad spectrum, your [00:26:06] goal is to stand up to the United [00:26:08] States, I'm not in favor [clears throat] [00:26:09] of foreign countries generally standing [00:26:11] up to the United States as like a [00:26:13] general broad rule. I think it's kind of [00:26:14] bad. I think American interests ought to [00:26:18] be pursued by pretty much every [00:26:19] American, including, of course, Governor [00:26:21] Nuomo and for that matter, Alex Soros. [00:26:25] Well, things got a little messy for [00:26:27] Gavin Newsome right after Trump's [00:26:28] speech. He called the speech remarkably [00:26:30] insignificant. Here was Gavin Newsome. [00:26:34] >> What was your reaction to what he had to [00:26:35] say about you? [00:26:37] >> Uh, none. [00:26:40] I think he said something very different [00:26:42] last night. Um, I didn't hear new scum. [00:26:44] I heard new news new green scam. Um but [00:26:48] uh I mean come on. It that's uh [00:26:51] it's uh it was remarkably boring. It was [00:26:56] remarkably [00:26:58] insignificant. [00:26:59] He was never going to invade Greenland. [00:27:01] It was never real. So that was always a [00:27:04] fade. And so he says, "Well, we should [00:27:06] negotiate." Well, everybody here has [00:27:08] been willing to negotiate for a year. Uh [00:27:10] so it had fire and fury signifying [00:27:12] absolutely nothing. [00:27:14] uh even by Trump's standards, I was [00:27:15] rather curious and there was borish [00:27:18] parts of it, but those were uh not even [00:27:20] that consequential, including uh [00:27:22] namechecking people he likes, people he [00:27:25] didn't like. So, it it you know, I I I [00:27:27] just that was not honestly it was just I [00:27:30] was a little disappointed. It was a [00:27:31] little non plus. [00:27:31] >> Did it stand out to you that he said [00:27:33] Iceland multiple times when he was [00:27:34] talking about Greenland? [00:27:35] >> Uh you know, [00:27:38] uh and that it every time a windmill [00:27:40] turns, it costs $1,000. A lot of stuff [00:27:43] stands out. None of this is normalized. [00:27:45] There's a normalization, a deviency of [00:27:47] consciousness and, you know, comments [00:27:50] and commentary. And no other president. [00:27:52] He's he's held to the curve. He's graded [00:27:54] on a curve. [00:27:55] >> So, I mean, really, that that's that's [00:27:57] the most so the most you could say was [00:27:59] insignificant except the Europeans [00:28:00] aren't taking it as insignificant. [00:28:02] Newsome then went on to suggest that [00:28:04] European leaders are very happy with him [00:28:05] that he said that they shouldn't put on [00:28:07] knee pads for the president. I will say [00:28:09] that Gavin Newsome is very fond of this [00:28:11] sort of knee pads joke. In fact, back in [00:28:13] October of 2025, he launched a satirical [00:28:16] merchandise campaign, selling signature [00:28:18] knee pads on his Patriot Shop website. [00:28:20] He actually had a pair of those knee [00:28:21] pads framed in in the background of his [00:28:24] podcast studio. You can spot them there. [00:28:25] So, this has been a long time running [00:28:27] joke for for Gavin Newsome. He says the [00:28:29] leaders were very happy. He used the [00:28:30] Newsome knee pads comments again. I [00:28:32] guess [00:28:34] >> I heard a surprising number say, "Glad [00:28:36] you made those comments. [00:28:39] uh the exact opposite of what you might [00:28:41] expect. Um they needed to hear those [00:28:44] comments and I know that people in [00:28:46] America have that point of view and [00:28:47] perspective and so uh I was very [00:28:51] >> Do you want to name names? [00:28:53] >> Absolutely. But I'm not uh but I would [00:28:55] like to. Um and uh and I thought [00:28:58] yesterday's comments by Prime Minister [00:29:00] Carney were effective and Mcron's [00:29:02] comments and obviously EU president's [00:29:04] comments were effective and they helped [00:29:06] shape but the markets more so. [00:29:10] >> Okay. So in his opinion it was Mark [00:29:12] Carney making suggestions about the [00:29:14] United States that caused President [00:29:15] Trump to back off of his sanctions [00:29:17] threat against the EU. Not a deal that [00:29:19] was cut. He does admit that the markets [00:29:21] had some impact on this which [00:29:22] undoubtedly is true. But when the [00:29:24] markets dive, the president doesn't like [00:29:25] it very much. But the the Gavin Newsome [00:29:27] suggesting that he is fond of it when [00:29:29] Mark Carney rips on the United States [00:29:31] and simultaneously makes time with China [00:29:33] is bizarre. Him suggesting that Emanuel [00:29:35] Mcronone is some sort of world leader in [00:29:37] terms of morality. While the French have [00:29:39] been making time with the Iranians for [00:29:40] years is is relatively insane. [00:29:43] And I think you can disagree with a lot [00:29:45] of what President Trump has been doing [00:29:46] with regard to Greenland. I think the [00:29:47] American people, broadly speaking, do. I [00:29:49] have I've disagreed with the president's [00:29:50] policy prescriptions in some areas with [00:29:52] regard to grabbing Greenland. But that [00:29:54] doesn't mean that I'm happy when Mark [00:29:56] Carney suggests that the post-American [00:29:58] order is going to be a positive place. [00:30:01] And it's strange for an American to [00:30:02] believe that a Post-American order is [00:30:04] going to be a positive place or that [00:30:06] European leaders ought to be ripping on [00:30:08] the United States and moving away from [00:30:10] the United States at speed. It's one [00:30:13] thing for Gavin Newsome to make the case [00:30:14] that the president is alienating our [00:30:16] allies needlessly. It's another thing [00:30:17] for him to say that those European [00:30:18] allies are doing the right thing by [00:30:20] ripping on the United States and moving [00:30:21] toward China, which is what Mark Carney [00:30:23] has been doing. Well, the Treasury [00:30:24] Secretary Scott Bessins then went after [00:30:26] Gavin Newsome. By the way, all this [00:30:28] really just does elevate Gavin Newsome. [00:30:30] Let's be clear, Gavin Newsome is playing [00:30:31] a very smart political game here just on [00:30:33] a political raw level. what he is doing [00:30:35] by going to Davos and earning the eyeire [00:30:38] of the Trump administration and getting [00:30:39] members of the Trump administration to [00:30:40] attack him is elevating himself far [00:30:42] above other Democratic candidates who [00:30:44] don't get mentioned nearly as often by [00:30:46] members of the Trump administration. And [00:30:48] again, the Trump administration is not [00:30:50] in high odor right now in terms of [00:30:52] approval ratings. So, this is smart [00:30:53] politicking by Newsome. As much as I [00:30:55] disagree with his principles on a lot of [00:30:57] things, the man is not stupid when it [00:30:58] comes to playing the game. Well, here [00:30:59] was Scott Besson dunking on him. [00:31:02] Governor Nuomo, who strikes me as [00:31:04] Patrick Baitman meets Sparkle Beach Ken, [00:31:06] uh may be the only Californian who knows [00:31:09] less about economics than Kla Harris. Uh [00:31:13] the he's here this week with his [00:31:15] billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros. [00:31:19] And the uh Davos is a perfect place for [00:31:22] a man who when everyone else was on [00:31:24] lockdown, when he was having people [00:31:26] arrested for going to church, he was [00:31:28] having $1,000 a night meals at the [00:31:31] French Laundry. And I'm sure the [00:31:33] California people won't forget that. [00:31:36] >> And again, that is a pretty robust dunk [00:31:38] from Scott Bessant, but let's be clear, [00:31:39] Scott Bessant is also not going to be [00:31:41] the nominee in 2028, presumably. And so [00:31:44] elevating Gavin Newsome as sort of the [00:31:46] bet noir of the Trump administration. [00:31:47] That's the game Newsome is playing and [00:31:49] so far just on a raw political level [00:31:51] that is succeeding. Again, it's very [00:31:53] clever what Newsome is doing. I I talked [00:31:54] about this last week. What Newsome is [00:31:55] doing right now is he is posing as a [00:31:57] political moderate while earning the [00:31:59] eyeire of the Trump administration so [00:32:01] that he appears to be in with his own [00:32:03] base. It is a very smart tactical move. [00:32:06] Even if I think again that Gavin Newsome [00:32:08] seems to be willing to say pretty much [00:32:09] anything to anybody depending on who he [00:32:11] is talking to at the time. Well, all of [00:32:14] this came to a head when Gavin Newsome [00:32:17] was apparently informed at the 11th hour [00:32:18] that his talk with Fortune at USA House [00:32:21] in Davos was cancelled. According to [00:32:23] Politico, he had been invited to speak [00:32:24] on Wednesday at an event sponsored by [00:32:26] USA House, which for the first time was [00:32:28] recognized by the US government as the [00:32:29] country's official headquarters in [00:32:30] Davos. But apparently an organizer told [00:32:32] his office they'd opted not to include [00:32:34] any US officials in the talk focused on [00:32:36] CEOs and other business leaders. A [00:32:39] Newsome administration official accused [00:32:41] the USA house under the opaces of the US [00:32:43] government of bowing to political [00:32:44] pressure from the state department. Now [00:32:46] the organizer denied that. They said the [00:32:48] governor is still welcome in the venue. [00:32:51] This is again Newsome pretending that he [00:32:53] basically is a co-equal with Trump and [00:32:55] they're punching at each other. That is [00:32:57] the game that Gavin Newsome is playing. [00:32:59] On a broader international level, the [00:33:01] president also had comments while he was [00:33:03] in Davos about a wide variety of [00:33:05] international [00:33:07] situations. One of those, of course, is [00:33:09] Iran. The latest statistics coming out [00:33:11] of Iran from human rights groups suggest [00:33:12] upward of 14,000 dead. Again, those [00:33:14] statistics are not a final tally. We are [00:33:16] not sure at this point how many [00:33:17] protesters were simply shot in the [00:33:19] streets by the Iranian government. Iran [00:33:20] is still in a full state of lockdown. [00:33:23] The internet is not operative in Iran. [00:33:25] And they still have troops out on the [00:33:26] streets every single day to prevent [00:33:28] protesting in the streets. Well, [00:33:30] President Trump at Davos said that Iran [00:33:32] had been hemmed in. [00:33:34] >> They were very close to having the [00:33:36] nuclear weapon, and we hit them hard. [00:33:38] And it was a total obliteration. [00:33:41] Uh if they they may try again, but [00:33:43] they're going to have to try from a [00:33:44] different area because that area was [00:33:46] obliterated. Incredible thing we did. [00:33:50] And because we did that, we were able to [00:33:52] make peace. If we didn't do that, I [00:33:54] would say Jared and Steve, if we didn't [00:33:55] do that, there was no chance of making [00:33:57] peace because the countries I just named [00:34:01] and other countries could have never [00:34:02] signed off. They were afraid. They were [00:34:04] afraid. Uh [clears throat] [00:34:07] we had a bully. The bully was Iran. The [00:34:09] bully of the Middle East. They used to [00:34:10] call it for years. They were the bully [00:34:12] of the Middle East. They're not the [00:34:14] bully of the Middle East anymore. [00:34:17] >> Well, it's unclear what's going to [00:34:18] happen from here on with regard to Iran. [00:34:21] The foreign minister of Iran was granted [00:34:24] an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal to [00:34:25] promote his lies, suggesting that they [00:34:28] are going to basically shoot anybody who [00:34:30] now participates in what they are [00:34:32] calling a resistance. [00:34:34] According to the foreign minister, [00:34:36] quote, the protests began peacefully and [00:34:38] were recognized as legitimate by the [00:34:39] Iranian government. They suddenly turned [00:34:40] violent when foreign and domestic [00:34:42] terrorist actors entered the scene. So [00:34:43] blocking communication among organizers [00:34:45] of the riers and terrorists was an [00:34:47] imperative. So again, the claim is going [00:34:48] to be that it was what, the CIA and MSAD [00:34:51] that was responsible for all of this. [00:34:55] According to the foreign minister, [00:34:57] the people on the ground were targeting [00:34:59] police and civilians alike. Officers [00:35:01] were shot, burned, and even beheaded. [00:35:02] Public buses, hospitals, ambulances, [00:35:04] fire stations, health infrastructure, [00:35:05] chain stores, even mosques were [00:35:07] deliberately destroyed to maximize [00:35:08] casualties and impede emergency [00:35:10] response. The majority of those killed [00:35:11] were police officers and ordinary [00:35:13] civilians. Contrary to the lies being [00:35:15] pedled abroad, all unarmed victims have [00:35:17] been officially recognized as martyrs. [00:35:18] This means every affected family will [00:35:20] receive full support, including the same [00:35:22] compensation and benefits as fallen [00:35:23] police officers. The violence on our [00:35:25] streets has subsided and normal life has [00:35:27] returned nationwide. Well, that's weird [00:35:28] since the internet is still shut down. [00:35:30] The Wall Street Journal editorial board [00:35:32] put out a piece pointing out that [00:35:34] actually none of this is true. That [00:35:37] basically they printed this simply so [00:35:39] that they could identify the lies being [00:35:41] told by the Iranian regime. The [00:35:43] president may be considering military [00:35:45] options still. It would be very [00:35:47] difficult, I think, for the president to [00:35:48] not consider some sort of major move [00:35:50] against Iran, considering he drew a red [00:35:52] line, the mass murder of protesters. [00:35:54] Iran didn't just cross the red line, [00:35:55] they jumped over it with both feet, [00:35:57] shooting protesters by perhaps the tens [00:35:59] of thousands in the streets in Iran. [00:36:02] According to the Wall Street Journal, [00:36:04] President Trump is still pressing aids [00:36:05] for what he terms decisive military [00:36:07] options. The discussions are happening [00:36:09] while the US sends an aircraft carrier [00:36:11] and jet fighters to the Middle East. [00:36:12] Those deployments may be the start of a [00:36:14] broader buildup that would give [00:36:15] President Trump the firepower to strike [00:36:17] Iran should he choose to use them. [00:36:20] So, a revised suite of options are being [00:36:23] created for the president, including [00:36:24] some that would seek to push the regime [00:36:26] out of power. How much can be done with [00:36:29] air power is really the big question. [00:36:33] The White House has to grapple with [00:36:34] whether the administration is prepared [00:36:35] to carry out a sustained military [00:36:36] campaign that might last weeks or months [00:36:38] should the protesters in Iran again take [00:36:40] to the streets and appeal to President [00:36:41] Trump for protection. However, suffice [00:36:43] it to say that if the president really [00:36:45] does not take significant action against [00:36:47] the Iranian government in the aftermath [00:36:49] of telling the protesters who stay out [00:36:50] in the street and quote help is on the [00:36:52] way, that would not only be disastrous [00:36:54] for the protesters in Iran, it would in [00:36:56] fact be a signal to places like China [00:36:58] that going after, say, Taiwan would not [00:37:01] be reacted to by the United States with [00:37:04] any sense of strength or elacrity. I [00:37:06] very much doubt the president is going [00:37:07] to do nothing in Iran. Iran, for its [00:37:10] part, is trying to threaten the United [00:37:12] States. Here is the Iranian armed spokes [00:37:14] armed forces spokesperson general [00:37:15] Shakarti promising retaliation against [00:37:17] the United States or its assets in the [00:37:19] region should the United States strike. [00:37:22] We do not pay attention to Trump's [00:37:24] bluster. He knows that if any hand is [00:37:26] raised to assault our leader, we will [00:37:29] not only cut off that hand decisively [00:37:31] and courageously, and this is not just [00:37:33] rhetoric, but we will set their world on [00:37:36] fire. we will strip them of any security [00:37:39] and leave no safe place for them. Now [00:37:42] again, Iran made those same sorts of [00:37:45] threats to Israel during this 12-day [00:37:47] war. And suffice it to say, those those [00:37:49] threats did not really come true in [00:37:51] large amount because again, if the [00:37:54] Iranian government wishes to take on the [00:37:56] United States military in true fashion, [00:37:58] that will not go well for them. [00:38:00] According to the Wall Street Journal [00:38:02] editorial board, there's a strong case [00:38:04] obviously for regime change in Iran. [00:38:08] That that case for regime change goes [00:38:10] back decades. We'll have to see whether [00:38:12] that is effectuated. At the same time, [00:38:13] the president is expected today in Davos [00:38:15] to hold a sined signing of his board of [00:38:20] peace agreement. So the board of peace [00:38:22] was supposed to be part and parcel of [00:38:23] the regovernance of Gaza. a border of [00:38:25] peace run by the president of the United [00:38:27] States that's expected to allow for the [00:38:29] rebuilding of the Gaza Strip. [00:38:32] The list of people who have been invited [00:38:33] is bizarre to say the least. It includes [00:38:36] not only some of the most robustly pro [00:38:39] kamas actors in the Middle East like [00:38:41] Qatar and Turkey. It also apparently [00:38:43] includes Russian President Vladimir [00:38:45] Putin to join the new board of peace [00:38:47] which seems kind of strange. Vladimir [00:38:50] Putin suggested that after the Ukraine [00:38:52] war ends perhaps that will happen. So, I [00:38:55] guess he thinks that he's going to [00:38:56] leverage the president into ending [00:38:57] American support for Ukraine or forcing [00:38:59] Ukraine into final concessions that [00:39:01] Putin will join a board of peace that's [00:39:04] basically meaningless in the Gaza Strip. [00:39:06] Considering Russia's special relations [00:39:09] with the Palestinian people, I think [00:39:12] that we would contribute $1 billion [00:39:18] to the Board of Peace from the frozen [00:39:20] assets by the assets frozen by the [00:39:23] previous administration and the [00:39:25] remaining funds from the funds frozen in [00:39:28] the United States could be used to [00:39:31] rebuild territories that suffered [00:39:35] uh during hostilities once we sign a [00:39:39] peace deal between Russia and Ukraine. [00:39:41] We're discussing this with the [00:39:42] representatives of the US [00:39:44] administration. [00:39:47] Okay. Well, what that amounts to, if you [00:39:48] shorten that, is an attempt of bribery. [00:39:50] Presumably, the idea would be that if [00:39:52] the Ukraine war ends and the United [00:39:53] States forces Ukraine to the table, that [00:39:55] Russia will then get its unfrozen assets [00:39:57] and and it will take those assets and [00:39:59] pour it into the Gaza Strip in in some [00:40:02] way. Again, having the Russians involved [00:40:03] in the Gaza Strip is just reconstituting [00:40:06] Hamas. That is all that will happen [00:40:07] there. Russia, Turkey, Qatar, again, [00:40:09] these are countries that were very much [00:40:10] willing to facilitate funding for Hamas [00:40:13] and turn that area into a terrorist [00:40:15] hotbed. Again, President Trump, for his [00:40:18] part, suggested the people being invited [00:40:19] are people who will get the job done. I [00:40:22] beg to differ when you look at that [00:40:23] list. [00:40:24] >> We want all nations. We want all nations [00:40:26] where people have control, people have [00:40:29] power. That way, we're not never going [00:40:31] to have a problem. It is the greatest [00:40:32] board ever assembled [00:40:34] >> and everybody wants to be on it. But [00:40:36] yeah, I have some controversial people [00:40:38] on it, but these are people that get the [00:40:39] job done. These are people that have [00:40:41] tremendous influence. And you know, if I [00:40:43] put all babies on the board, it wouldn't [00:40:46] be very much. So, he was invited. He's [00:40:49] accepted. Uh many people have accepted. [00:40:52] I think I don't know of anybody that [00:40:53] hasn't accepted. [00:40:55] I mean apparently some of the people who [00:40:57] have been invited and accepted [00:41:00] apparently that that would include not [00:41:01] just Vladimir Putin but also Lucenko in [00:41:04] Bellarus. I'm not I'm not sure how those [00:41:06] are some of the most effective people [00:41:08] other people invited Brazil under Lua [00:41:12] which seems strange to me as well as the [00:41:16] leadership in Pakistan in the Gaza [00:41:19] Strip. Okay, again if you're going to [00:41:22] posit an alternative to the UN, I'm all [00:41:23] in. I love that idea. An alternative to [00:41:25] the UN would be wonderful. The UN is [00:41:27] again the worst place in international [00:41:28] politics. But what you actually should [00:41:30] pursue is a board of peace comprised of [00:41:33] like-minded democracies that actually [00:41:35] share Western values. I have very little [00:41:38] desire for a board of peace that [00:41:39] includes some of the worst actors on [00:41:41] planet Earth. The president did have [00:41:43] some hopeful words for the Gaza Strip. [00:41:45] He suggested that Hamas has agreed to [00:41:46] give up its weapons and he said that if [00:41:47] they do not then there will be [00:41:48] consequences. Hamas is still waiting for [00:41:50] the consequences thus far. [00:41:53] There are some uh little situations like [00:41:56] Hamas and Hamas has agreed to give up [00:41:59] their weapons. Now, you know, they were [00:42:00] born with a weapon in their hand. So, [00:42:02] it's not easy to do. When they were [00:42:03] born, they were born with a rifle in [00:42:05] their hand. It's not an easy thing for [00:42:07] them, but they that's what they agreed [00:42:09] to. They've got to do it. And we're [00:42:10] going to know, Jared, over the next two [00:42:12] or three days, certainly over the next [00:42:15] three weeks, whether or not they're [00:42:16] going to do it. If they don't do it, [00:42:18] they're going to have they'll be blown [00:42:19] away very quickly. [00:42:21] >> Okay. Well, we'll see if that is the [00:42:23] case because the question is who's going [00:42:24] to be doing the blowing away, right? [00:42:26] Will the IDF actually be given the [00:42:28] ability to go and do full-scale [00:42:29] operations in the Gaza Strip again if in [00:42:31] fact Kamas does not disarm? Because [00:42:33] Kamas has no intention of disarming. [00:42:35] Many of the talks so far have included [00:42:36] getting rid of things like rockets and [00:42:38] rocket propelled grenades, but not [00:42:40] getting rid of small arms, which of [00:42:41] course is the way that you control the [00:42:42] population in the Gaza Strip because you [00:42:44] can shoot people with AK-47. Meanwhile, [00:42:47] the president suggested while he was at [00:42:49] Davos that both Vladimir Putin and [00:42:51] Vladimir Zilinsky are stupid if they [00:42:52] don't get a deal done. Again, I'm just [00:42:54] waiting on this particular deal. I'm [00:42:55] just waiting for Vladimir Putin to show [00:42:57] any flexibility whatsoever. We have yet [00:42:59] to see any flexibility, one iota from [00:43:01] Vladimir Putin. [00:43:03] >> So, I believe they're at a point now, [00:43:05] I'm going to meet with President [00:43:06] Zalinsky later today. I believe they're [00:43:09] at a point now where they can come [00:43:12] together and get a deal done. And if [00:43:14] they don't, they're stupid. That goes [00:43:17] for both of them. And I know they're not [00:43:20] stupid. But if they don't get this done, [00:43:22] they are stupid. So, uh, I don't want to [00:43:26] insult anyone, but you got to get this [00:43:28] deal done. Too many people are dying. [00:43:30] It's not worth it. [00:43:32] >> I mean, again, it is not a matter of [00:43:33] will when it comes to Ukraine. It's a [00:43:35] matter of what people are willing to [00:43:36] sacrifice. And so far, the answer from [00:43:38] the Russians has been no. And all this [00:43:40] ties into again, what is the broader [00:43:41] American orientation toward the world? [00:43:44] Is it America first or is it America [00:43:46] alone? Is it a multipolar world order or [00:43:49] is it an America world order where we [00:43:52] are more muscular in pursuit of our own [00:43:53] interests and we expect more from our [00:43:55] allies in helping us out with those [00:43:56] interests? That remains the big question [00:43:58] coming out of Davos. It was the big [00:44:00] question going in. I'm not sure that the [00:44:01] question has been fully answered at this [00:44:03] point in time. Meanwhile, the Trump [00:44:05] administration continues to progress on [00:44:08] the executive level, putting forward [00:44:10] excellent executive orders, moving [00:44:12] forward on the regulatory level. Dr. Jay [00:44:14] Badacharia, of course, is now the [00:44:16] director of the National Institutes of [00:44:17] Health and was previously tenure [00:44:19] professor at the School of Medicine at [00:44:20] Stanford University among other [00:44:22] superlatives. Dr. Badacharia, thanks so [00:44:24] much for joining the program. Really [00:44:26] appreciate it. [00:44:26] >> Thanks for having me on, Ben. It's nice [00:44:28] to see you again. So let's talk about [00:44:30] what the administration just did with [00:44:32] regard to fetal t tissue research. [00:44:36] >> Yeah. So uh human fetal tissue research [00:44:38] is um I mean obviously it's been a quite [00:44:41] a controversial topic for a long time. [00:44:43] The NIH um had a big debate in the early [00:44:46] 2000s over this. Um it's the the tissue [00:44:49] itself is often derived from from [00:44:53] aborted fetal tissue. So you know [00:44:56] someone has an abortion and then some [00:44:58] researcher goes and buys the tissue and [00:45:01] then uses it for research projects. Um [00:45:04] the uh during Trump Trump won the the [00:45:07] the policy was that if uh so there's two [00:45:10] parts of the NIH there's intramural [00:45:12] researchers that directly work for the [00:45:13] NIH and there's extra mural all the [00:45:14] people that the NIH funds all in the [00:45:16] universities Trump one banned intramural [00:45:19] use of aborted fetal tissue uh human [00:45:23] fetal tissue um this time we're going [00:45:26] beyond that and we're saying not just [00:45:28] the intramural research but all of the [00:45:30] support for the NIH has had especially [00:45:33] during the B administration for human [00:45:35] fetal tissue research more broadly [00:45:37] outside in universities um this derived [00:45:41] from abortions is banned um the the uh [00:45:45] sorry just there's one a couple of [00:45:46] nuances really important here um one is [00:45:49] that if there's tissue from a [00:45:50] miscarriage not from a specifically from [00:45:53] an abortion that's okay the reason [00:45:55] that's important there are some research [00:45:57] uses like for instance understanding how [00:45:59] fetal lungs develop that's useful to [00:46:01] know to have that. So there's some um [00:46:03] we've been tracking this very carefully [00:46:05] and the use of human fetal tissue and [00:46:07] research has been declining pretty [00:46:09] sharply even after the Biden [00:46:10] administration sort of reversed the ban. [00:46:12] Um the the the amount of money that the [00:46:15] NIH has spent on human fetal tissue [00:46:17] during the Biden administration research [00:46:18] has declined very sharply. And so what's [00:46:21] happened is there's all these like big [00:46:23] advances where you can use alternate [00:46:25] methods that you no longer need human [00:46:27] fetal tissue. a lot of the angst and and [00:46:30] fights over this that happened over the [00:46:31] in the early 2000s. I think now that [00:46:33] there there's like better technology uh [00:46:36] we we it's really that the point is that [00:46:39] that there's no scientific harm to this. [00:46:41] We're still going to be able to do the [00:46:42] this the science we need to make, you [00:46:44] know, for human health, for advancing [00:46:46] health of babies and all that. um while [00:46:49] at the same time [00:46:51] getting rid of this this this sort of um [00:46:53] uh this sort of like uh use of aborted [00:46:56] human fetal tissue which so many people [00:46:58] including me find morally abhorent. [00:47:00] >> So let's talk about the scientific value [00:47:02] here. So you say obviously and so does [00:47:05] the administration that the use of [00:47:06] aborted fetal tissue is now largely [00:47:08] unnecessary. We have alternative methods [00:47:10] for doing this. Obviously opponents of [00:47:12] the policy are suggesting that something [00:47:14] terrible is happening scientifically [00:47:16] that research that would have gone uh [00:47:18] that would have been happening is is no [00:47:20] longer going to be done that there will [00:47:21] be medical gains that that we have to [00:47:23] forego because of all of this. What is [00:47:25] the scientific case that that's false? [00:47:27] >> Well, first I I would ask them to look [00:47:29] at the actual policy, right? So, uh, [00:47:32] someone who's had a miscarriage and then [00:47:34] wants to, you know, do a meaningful [00:47:35] thing to, uh, of what that and and they [00:47:38] donate the the tissue from the the the [00:47:41] miscarriage to science, that's still [00:47:43] allowed, right? So, it's this is the [00:47:46] only the only ban is on you have an [00:47:48] abortion specifically to, you know, have [00:47:50] the to terminate the baby and then you [00:47:54] then then the b the the tissue then gets [00:47:56] sold. That's what's being banned. not [00:47:59] all fetal human fiddle tissue. The the [00:48:01] other thing I point out is Ben is that [00:48:03] if you look at the actual data on the [00:48:05] use of NIH funds for this during the B [00:48:09] administration, there was a sharp drop [00:48:11] in spending on on human fetal tissue [00:48:14] research. And the reason is very simple [00:48:16] is because of the the advances in [00:48:18] alternatives to the human fetal tissue. [00:48:20] For instance, induced polyoproin stem [00:48:22] cells for for many uses is uh you can [00:48:25] produce tissues that are uh comparable [00:48:28] or better uh without having the sort of [00:48:30] moral qualms. uh and p man if I make [00:48:33] another make another sort of public [00:48:35] health case about this um and uh during [00:48:38] the pandemic the there were there were [00:48:41] vaccines for instance the Johnson [00:48:43] Johnson vaccine not not an mRNA vaccine [00:48:45] but another technology that was produced [00:48:48] using human uh basically embryionic stem [00:48:53] cells [00:48:54] I I heard from so many people during the [00:48:56] pandemic that you know Catholics and [00:48:58] others who had qualms about using this [00:49:00] technology because they didn't want to [00:49:02] be use gaining from um what what their [00:49:05] moral system said was a a illicit you [00:49:08] know fruit of the the poison tree right [00:49:11] um you know and I completely sympathize [00:49:13] with this uh in public health and in [00:49:16] science we should seek to produce [00:49:18] knowledge and products that are as [00:49:20] widely uh widely available for everybody [00:49:24] if there are large numbers of people [00:49:26] with moral systems that say look if you [00:49:28] don't go down this line and use research [00:49:31] do rese search with uh you know aborted [00:49:33] fetal human fetal tissue. I'm not going [00:49:35] to I'm not going to participate in it. [00:49:37] I'm not going to if it's a vaccine or [00:49:38] whatever it is, I'm not going to use it. [00:49:41] Well, what good was the research if a [00:49:42] large part of the population it feels [00:49:44] ethically bound not to to participate or [00:49:47] use the products of that research? [00:49:49] Well, that's Dr. Jay Badachario over at [00:49:51] NIH. Obviously, he is deeply involved in [00:49:55] every aspect of Trump administration [00:49:56] policy, ensuring that the best of [00:49:57] science is brought to bear despite the [00:50:00] left-wing media trying to claim that [00:50:02] science is somehow on the back burner in [00:50:04] the administration. Dr. Barachari [00:50:05] ensures that is not the case. Dr. [00:50:06] Bachari, really appreciate the time. [00:50:07] >> Thank you, Ben. Nice to talk with you as [00:50:09] always. [00:50:10] >> All righty, folks. 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