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[00:00:00] The big question right now obviously is [00:00:02] once we turned over into 2026 is the [00:00:04] midterms. And there is this lingering [00:00:06] question now turning point action. We're [00:00:08] going to be working in New Hampshire. [00:00:09] We're going to be working in Arizona, [00:00:10] Nevada. We're going to be working on [00:00:12] congressional races that build towards [00:00:14] 2028, right? We have to pick our [00:00:16] battles. Tyler Boyer is going to be on [00:00:18] the show talking about some of this. [00:00:19] We're hiring. We're staffing up ahead of [00:00:22] the midterms. But we can't do it all. [00:00:24] And there's going to be a lot of races [00:00:25] across the country that are going to be [00:00:26] very hotly contested. and President [00:00:29] Trump's not going to be on the ballot. [00:00:31] So, what what do we have to do? What's [00:00:33] the vibe? What's the energy? [00:00:35] >> So, Trump and Susie Wilds have both said [00:00:37] he's going to treat the midterms like a [00:00:38] like a general election. So, that's [00:00:41] obviously a really good sign. He's going [00:00:43] to do rallies. It's still going to be [00:00:45] hard. I looked up 2018, which was his [00:00:47] first midterms. We lost 40 seats in the [00:00:50] House. [00:00:52] >> So, what's that number going to be this [00:00:54] time? I don't know. I honestly don't [00:00:56] think we're going to hold the House. Uh [00:00:59] but this but what you know and then what [00:01:02] is that going to lead to? It's going to [00:01:03] lead to impeachments in the House. The [00:01:06] Senate is virtually impossible to lose [00:01:08] just based on on the map. Um it would [00:01:12] take some big some huge upsets. So [00:01:15] that's part of why I was talking about [00:01:17] the filibuster. And you know getting [00:01:19] back to the SAVE Act for people who [00:01:21] don't know the Save Act is the Voting [00:01:22] Reform Act. [00:01:24] um you know to require citizenship to [00:01:28] register to vote uh to require voter ID [00:01:31] nationwide all these things that you [00:01:33] know and I think it actually eliminates [00:01:35] uh mailin ballots which is an [00:01:37] interesting thing because as you know [00:01:39] Andrew and Blake Charlie sort of picked [00:01:40] up that mantra you guys that was one of [00:01:42] the the keys to success in Arizona and a [00:01:45] few other states that we really pushed [00:01:47] on the mail and ballot [00:01:48] >> well Kane really quick here the yeah it [00:01:50] would require proof to be presented in [00:01:52] person in most cases which would [00:01:54] effectively eliminate or at least [00:01:56] severely restrict online voter [00:01:58] registration, mail-in voter [00:02:00] registration. Uh so many automatic voter [00:02:03] registration systems like motor voter [00:02:05] when you get a driver's license, which [00:02:07] we know a lot of illegals are doing in [00:02:09] these states where they're where they're [00:02:10] giving illegals driver's licenses. [00:02:12] >> Uh voter registration drives since you [00:02:14] couldn't just fill out a form on the [00:02:15] spot without showing documents to an [00:02:17] official, right? So, you know, by the [00:02:19] way, Turning Point Action, we did voter [00:02:21] registration drives. follow the laws of [00:02:23] the land. We use the exact same laws [00:02:24] that everybody else does. But if they're [00:02:26] going to restrict this, which is I think [00:02:28] a good thing, then you know it's going [00:02:30] to hamper some of these these uh [00:02:32] especially the libs, man. They get way [00:02:34] more volunteers for this stuff cuz [00:02:35] remember they're not going to church. [00:02:36] They're not having families. This is [00:02:37] their church. This is their church. [00:02:38] Their church is destroying America. [00:02:41] That's their cult. [00:02:42] >> So yeah, to your point, please please [00:02:43] continue. [00:02:44] >> Well, I was going to say Blake knows all [00:02:46] about same day voter registration in New [00:02:48] Hampshire. [00:02:49] >> Um [00:02:50] >> they they would No, they made a point of [00:02:51] that. They would do the whole spiel with [00:02:53] the students at Dartmouth. They would [00:02:55] say, "You can change your vote day of. [00:02:57] You don't need to vote in your home [00:02:58] state." They would explicitly say, "Oh, [00:03:00] if you're from a state that's deep blue, [00:03:02] most of them were a lot of people from [00:03:03] Massachusetts, California, New York, [00:03:06] switch your vote here day of, vote in [00:03:08] this race." And I I often thought I once [00:03:10] did the math and if they'd built that [00:03:12] college on the other side of the river [00:03:13] in Vermont, we would have won that state [00:03:16] in 2016. We would have won Kelly Ayat [00:03:19] Senate race in 2016. It makes a [00:03:21] difference. [00:03:22] >> By the way, we may or may not have an [00:03:25] upcoming event [00:03:26] >> at your alma mater. [00:03:28] >> Well, we were going to we were going to [00:03:29] have that, but that's one of the reasons [00:03:31] we're going back. So, we'll just you [00:03:33] watch that space because it's key [00:03:36] >> when we're talking about New Hampshire, [00:03:38] which is a state that has more [00:03:39] conservatives than uh or Republicans [00:03:41] than Democrats. It's but it's always [00:03:43] that independent vote in the middle, [00:03:45] right? That's what's going to determine [00:03:46] that state. [00:03:48] >> Yeah. And to Blake's point, um, you [00:03:52] know, there always talk about [00:03:53] Massachusetts universities busing [00:03:55] students across the state line just on [00:03:58] election day and doing same day [00:04:00] registration. So, it's a problem. The [00:04:02] thing is, how the heck do we get the [00:04:03] Save Act passed with the filibuster and [00:04:06] if you have to get rid of the filibuster [00:04:08] because, you know, Democrats are going [00:04:09] to do it, not this term when they [00:04:11] because they aren't going to get the [00:04:12] Senate in in 2026, but they will [00:04:14] eventually and they do drop the [00:04:16] filibuster. Um, Well, whatever. There's [00:04:19] just no motivation to to get rid of the [00:04:21] filibuster now. And um and so the I [00:04:24] don't see how again the Save Act gets [00:04:25] passed. Another thing on midterms, you [00:04:27] know, I always pay attention to the [00:04:29] generic congressional stuff. And in the [00:04:30] New York Times poll that I put in the [00:04:32] stack today, they've got the generic [00:04:34] congressional at 4843, [00:04:36] which 4843 Democrats. And I know that's [00:04:39] a negative five number for us, but there [00:04:42] was also like the Atlas Intel generic [00:04:45] congressional poll from about three [00:04:47] weeks ago was 12 points. Uh, you know, [00:04:50] plus 12 for Democrats. So this plus five [00:04:52] number from New York Times is actually [00:04:54] not that bad. And 4843 is, you know, [00:04:58] it's whatever. It's not insurmountable [00:05:00] the way a 12 point is. So I don't know. [00:05:02] I I don't want to be completely [00:05:03] pessimistic, but it's going to be a [00:05:05] tough sled and we're going to need we're [00:05:07] going to need Trump to treat it like the [00:05:09] general. [00:05:09] >> Well, you're you're absolutely right and [00:05:11] I would just say if he's getting out [00:05:12] there and you got to imagine Elon's [00:05:14] going to be activated, everybody's [00:05:16] motivated. We know these guys are just [00:05:17] going to bog everything down in [00:05:18] investigations and uh all of this stuff. [00:05:21] I want you to throw up this graphic [00:05:23] though here just real quick. Last [00:05:24] thought. Rasmman Rasmusen reports is [00:05:28] requiring photo ID to vote a reasonable [00:05:30] measure to protect the integrity of [00:05:32] elections. All voters altogether 73% say [00:05:36] yes, which is huge. So, you know, here's [00:05:40] the issue. What I'm told, I've been back [00:05:42] channeling with some senators. They [00:05:43] there's these 10 to 15 senators [00:05:45] basically think it's constitutionally [00:05:47] problematic for the federal government [00:05:49] to weigh in on states the way they [00:05:51] conduct their elections, right? But the [00:05:54] legal question then is can they weigh in [00:05:57] on federal elections that are conducted [00:05:58] by the states. So that's that's the key. [00:06:01] So that that's the excuse they're [00:06:02] throwing up. But it's it's pathetic. [00:06:04] Citizen Kain, Citizen Free Press, check [00:06:06] out the stack. I go there multiple times [00:06:08] every day. You should, too. God bless [00:06:10] you, sir. We'll we'll we'll talk to you [00:06:11] soon. Once again, Kane, Republicans are [00:06:13] the only ones trying to play by [00:06:15] gentleman's rules, and we're getting [00:06:17] steamrolled. And you know, there's this [00:06:19] whole redistricting debate going on. And [00:06:21] everybody's, oh, Trump is trying to [00:06:22] redistrict midterm. It turns out the [00:06:24] Democrats are the only ones with a [00:06:25] enough political will and ruthlessness [00:06:28] to actually move forward with it. What's [00:06:30] your take? [00:06:31] >> Yeah. Well, yeah, I was going to before [00:06:33] you said it, I was going to mention the [00:06:35] Maryland thing because I just put it in [00:06:37] the stack like 30 minutes ago. Wes [00:06:39] Moore, the governor, is trying to get [00:06:40] rid of the only uh Republican seat that [00:06:44] uh in the in the Maryland congressional [00:06:47] delegation. I I'm trying to I think [00:06:49] Maryland usually is about 6040 [00:06:52] in governor's races. So, I mean, if [00:06:55] you're getting 40% Republican votes, it [00:06:57] would be nice to have at least uh one [00:07:00] Republican seat. Yes. You know, that's [00:07:02] brutal. That would be brutal as hell [00:07:04] that if if that, you know, if if if we [00:07:07] lost because because our state [00:07:10] representatives didn't have the uh [00:07:12] whatever they got their feelings hurt. [00:07:14] There were all kinds of reasons that [00:07:15] that the Indiana reps did not vote to [00:07:18] redistrict. Um, you know, one last thing [00:07:20] I'll throw on the redistricting. I put a [00:07:22] story up maybe a month ago that talked [00:07:24] about how the five seats in Texas may [00:07:27] not even end up being five seats that it [00:07:30] might be four seats because we're [00:07:32] getting slightly in lower numbers with [00:07:33] Hispanics. So, yeah. So, Democrats, [00:07:37] there's a tracker I guess one last [00:07:39] thing. There's a tracker that I keep I [00:07:41] bring to the top near the stack that [00:07:43] sort of shows what's going on in every [00:07:45] single state and they still say that we [00:07:48] may gain three [00:07:50] uh if everything plays out correctly, [00:07:52] but you guys are probably on top of it. [00:07:55] Hey, look. [00:07:56] >> Yeah. [00:07:56] >> Yeah. No, you're right, Kane. It's it's [00:07:58] just much closer than it should be. And [00:08:00] meanwhile, we're gonna talk about this [00:08:02] in an hour or two with Ryan James [00:08:04] Gduski, but you know, if we had a real [00:08:05] census in this country that didn't count [00:08:08] foreign illegals, [00:08:10] >> which Trump tried to get done, he lost [00:08:11] that battle. I think we win that battle. [00:08:13] If we pick it today, [00:08:14] >> we should be redoing the 2020 census. It [00:08:17] was a botch census. It was done [00:08:19] properly, incorrectly. Co completely [00:08:21] ruined it. They used all these like [00:08:22] privacy, you know, protocols to shield [00:08:26] illegals and so they would be counted [00:08:28] and it screwed up the whole algorithm. [00:08:30] Okay, so if we redid the census, you [00:08:33] would see 10 to 15 seats move to the [00:08:35] sunb belt, move to where people are [00:08:37] moving. Okay, so there's a lot wrong [00:08:39] with this. I do not believe that we have [00:08:42] been getting a fair shake in national [00:08:44] elections when with Congress. We just [00:08:46] haven't. You know, President Trump had a [00:08:48] basically a landslide victory, won the [00:08:50] popular vote, ran the table on the swing [00:08:53] states, and we ek out this tiny little [00:08:55] majority in Congress, in the House. It [00:08:58] something ain't right. And so, we've got [00:09:00] we got to fight on this front. 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And they are willing to [00:09:50] fight and penalize and dox and even [00:09:53] insult our law enforcement officers in [00:09:56] order to fight for the basic principle [00:09:58] that anybody ought to be able to come [00:10:00] into the United States of America. Well, [00:10:01] I'll tell you right now, the Trump [00:10:03] administration, we reject that. We are [00:10:05] going to get illegal criminals out of [00:10:06] our country, and we're not going to let [00:10:08] a few left-wing radicals stop us. [00:10:11] So, it seems like the administration is [00:10:13] getting the memo here. Ryan James [00:10:15] Gerduski 1776 pack. Uh Blake, read some [00:10:19] of these numbers though on this New York [00:10:21] Times poll because for sure I mean I [00:10:24] >> it's interesting to me. So, as you [00:10:26] mentioned, he's strongest on the border. [00:10:29] >> Uh but and unsurprisingly, people are [00:10:32] annoyed about the Epstein files thing, [00:10:34] but like for example, he's only uh 41 [00:10:36] approved, 53 disapprove on Venezuela, [00:10:40] which [00:10:41] We talked to Rick Shares about that. [00:10:42] It's interesting because Latin America [00:10:44] does overwhelmingly seem to like it and [00:10:46] it seems it basically did work whatever [00:10:49] he was what his plan was and you know we [00:10:51] didn't invade we didn't have a war. So [00:10:53] what what are they unhappy about there [00:10:55] or uh 3754 on the Israel Palestine [00:10:58] conflict where it's imperfect but they [00:11:00] actually did get a ceasefire in that one [00:11:02] which is one of the things he promised [00:11:04] he would get. [00:11:05] >> So [00:11:06] >> he's seen as too close to BB probably. [00:11:07] >> Yeah. 34 negative 24 34 to 58 on Russia [00:11:10] Ukraine. I guess it hasn't ended the war [00:11:13] yet, but nothing catastrophic has [00:11:15] happened either. Uh [00:11:17] >> but if you look at the because because [00:11:18] if you look at the numbers, right, it's [00:11:21] it's comes down to this essential thing [00:11:22] of inflation and cost of living, right? [00:11:24] The only thing that he does worse than [00:11:26] the cost of living on is the Epstein [00:11:27] files. And it's kind of like something [00:11:29] one thing is polluted and therefore [00:11:31] everything is polluted. It makes no [00:11:33] rhyme or reason. like on on Israel he [00:11:36] did a great job on Venezuela everything [00:11:38] worked out like so there's the negative [00:11:40] negativity towards the issue of cost of [00:11:43] living and the feeling that he is not [00:11:45] organized on the issue of cost of living [00:11:47] and that's not a priority pollutes [00:11:50] everything. The one caveat I will say [00:11:52] about the times and I'm not a I'm not a [00:11:53] poll truther but the one caveat I will [00:11:55] provide for the times issue is when they [00:11:57] ask independents do you lean Republican [00:11:59] or Democrats overwhelmingly Democrat. So [00:12:01] there could be some maybe a little maybe [00:12:04] a margin of error in one way or the [00:12:05] other, but I think that the idea is that [00:12:07] the priorities are not there. We want to [00:12:09] really focus a lot on on American on [00:12:10] American stuff and making sure American [00:12:12] jobs are coming back and I think that [00:12:15] that is just creates negativity across [00:12:17] the board on everything. [00:12:18] >> What is driving the So people say cost [00:12:22] affordability. Is that a vibesbased [00:12:25] thing? Is there something specific they [00:12:27] see? cuz I just thought I was looking up [00:12:28] and I know rental prices in a lot of big [00:12:31] cities are stagnating or falling. So [00:12:35] housing especially for people [00:12:37] >> healthare is a big part of it but also [00:12:39] it is one of the worst times when to be [00:12:41] young and looking for a job in our [00:12:43] country like that is just the truth. I [00:12:45] don't know whether it's AI or jobs being [00:12:48] moved overseas or whatever the case is. [00:12:50] You hear a lot of things from a lot of [00:12:51] different people and you kind of try to [00:12:52] parse through to find the truth. That [00:12:54] though is a really big part of it. And [00:12:57] the number one group that has sat there [00:12:58] and turned on Trump are young people. [00:13:00] It's people under the age of 30. His [00:13:02] numbers are very stable for people over [00:13:04] the age of 30. I mean, they're really [00:13:06] not horrendous. There are some numbers [00:13:07] that are that could be off. It could be [00:13:09] better. However, the numbers under 30 [00:13:12] are where you're seeing the biggest [00:13:13] Uturn against him. I kind of think in [00:13:15] part part of it is vibes and it's social [00:13:17] media and people getting outraged over [00:13:19] over every kind of nonsense there is. [00:13:21] And part of it, I think, is one of the [00:13:22] worst times to be a young person to try [00:13:24] to find a job. [00:13:25] >> I will tell you, we had a bunch of [00:13:28] Turning Point students on the show not [00:13:30] too long ago. And I was struck by how [00:13:33] much they kept going and again, these [00:13:35] are conservative kids. All right. Okay. [00:13:37] So, it's a selected bias there. But I [00:13:41] was struck by how much they talked about [00:13:43] H-1B. They I and and listen, I'm H-1B is [00:13:48] a actually a small fraction of a much [00:13:50] larger legal immigration [00:13:51] >> to some extent. It's what they talk [00:13:53] about, right? Because [00:13:54] >> it's symbolic for them because they feel [00:13:56] like, [00:13:57] >> you know, yeah, they do have the a AI [00:13:59] onslaught coming. That's that's that's [00:14:00] an entrylevel job killer. AI is going to [00:14:03] is going to take a lot of analyst jobs. [00:14:05] It's going to take a lot of, you know, [00:14:07] data jobs. [00:14:09] So, they look at H-1B as a truly [00:14:11] symbolic problem for their generation [00:14:13] going into the workforce. I think they [00:14:15] need to do more on that. I think they [00:14:17] need to do it more on legal immigration [00:14:18] because legal immigration is actually [00:14:20] structurally, I think, one of the [00:14:21] biggest problems facing the country. [00:14:24] >> Yeah. And listen, President Trump is [00:14:25] going all in on AI. He's making a really [00:14:27] big bet. He says it's going to create [00:14:29] more jobs than it takes away. Maybe it [00:14:31] doesn't. Maybe we're just in the pain [00:14:32] period. I don't know. I don't have a [00:14:34] crystal ball. However, if he is wrong, [00:14:38] it is a generational consequence. Like [00:14:40] there's I don't know if anyone sat there [00:14:41] and said, "Mr. President, what if you [00:14:43] are wrong on this major major thing and [00:14:46] you're looking at a generation where 20% [00:14:48] can't find a job?" I think that that's a [00:14:50] real conversation that Democrats on the [00:14:53] left are having. Ro Kana is having that [00:14:56] conversation. Democrats are saying, [00:14:57] "What are we going to do about AI in a [00:15:00] real way where we redistribute wealth?" [00:15:02] They're speaking about as a solution [00:15:03] towards socialism is AI is the gateway [00:15:06] to actually get real socialism in [00:15:08] America in a way that we have never felt [00:15:10] it. They think that that's the answer. [00:15:12] And I know the internal polling that [00:15:14] they have flagged the president says the [00:15:16] numbers on AI are not great. Like they [00:15:18] do most Americans are worried about it. [00:15:20] They're not concerned. You are the AI [00:15:22] president. I think that that's something [00:15:24] that they should be sitting there and [00:15:25] trying to calculate and say, "Okay, what [00:15:27] are you know what are we doing?" You [00:15:29] know, I saw um David Saxs was flagging [00:15:32] this over at Davos and he was talking [00:15:34] about how China has, you know, the [00:15:36] Chinese population has like an 80% [00:15:39] positive rate, you know, when pled about [00:15:41] AI and in the United States it's like [00:15:43] 40, 41, 43. [00:15:45] >> I think the president is right to go for [00:15:46] AI because it's not even whether AI will [00:15:49] create jobs or not. It's that AI will [00:15:50] exist and do you want it to be in [00:15:52] America like or do you want to be in [00:15:54] China and we lose whatever jobs it [00:15:55] takes? Oh, [00:15:56] >> regulated at all. That's the question is [00:15:58] like like Sachs will say, "Oh, we need a [00:16:02] federal regulation." And then just ask [00:16:03] Sax, "Okay, what's the federal [00:16:04] regulation you support and see if he [00:16:07] says anything?" Because I have yet to [00:16:09] see when we when you ask Silicon Valley [00:16:11] to police themselves, they fail. Do I [00:16:14] mean, we we can just go back to 2020 [00:16:15] where they were literally on board with [00:16:17] every single far-left extreme thing that [00:16:20] there was and then Trump was popular and [00:16:21] won and now they're all on board, but [00:16:23] they'll leave us again in 35 seconds. [00:16:25] They don't care. They have no loyalty. [00:16:27] If you ask what is the thing you're [00:16:29] willing to sit there and actually get [00:16:30] har federal legislation on what is it [00:16:33] and I don't just tell me you know [00:16:34] children child pornography tell me a [00:16:36] real concrete thing. [00:16:37] >> Yeah. I mean I listen and I know there [00:16:39] was a b bunch of back and forth on the [00:16:40] one big beautiful bill and there was [00:16:42] that one clause which was was going to [00:16:44] >> you know put off any regulation at the [00:16:47] state level for 10 years or whatever. It [00:16:49] made sense because California was and [00:16:52] New York are so large, their economies [00:16:54] are so large that they could basically [00:16:55] dictate a patchwork of woke regulation [00:16:58] at the state level on AI and it would [00:17:00] screw everybody else. So I understood [00:17:02] the sentiment. It got demonized and [00:17:03] villainized. Yeah. Uh 20 seconds. [00:17:05] >> But Andrew, but but remember Tennessee [00:17:07] was what killed that part of the bill. I [00:17:09] know Tennessee did. It wasn't New York [00:17:11] or California. Texas has AI regulation. [00:17:13] Florida has AI regulation. It is not [00:17:16] just the thing is yeah, we're going to [00:17:18] end up with patchwork because there's no [00:17:20] federal response. Either make a federal [00:17:22] response and give up something instead [00:17:24] of asking Silicon Valley for for advice. [00:17:27] Give up something that the tax the [00:17:29] voters want. Talk about this deep mass [00:17:32] deportations. You just said we got to [00:17:33] ramp it up. I agree. Then you got Axio [00:17:37] saying that this is so unpopular. The [00:17:39] Trump administration is looking at it. [00:17:40] You got this story this morning of this [00:17:42] 5-year-old illegal that they're that [00:17:44] Democrats are spreading all this [00:17:45] propaganda. Turns out the data banned [00:17:47] him. How popular or unpopular is it? And [00:17:50] specifically with independents and [00:17:52] minorities. [00:17:54] >> So the New York Times poll that just [00:17:56] came out this morning was terrible for [00:17:57] Trump. It was horrible poll numbers [00:17:59] except on two issues, border security [00:18:01] and deporting illegal immigrants. Now [00:18:03] they're going to sit there and say, "Oh, [00:18:04] look, the poll said that ICE is [00:18:05] unpopular." Yeah, they don't. People [00:18:07] don't like masked agents. They don't [00:18:09] like watching families cry. They don't. [00:18:11] People are people. Like they have a [00:18:12] heart. However, that doesn't mean that [00:18:15] they don't endorse the deportation [00:18:18] effort. It is the most popular issue [00:18:20] still when they ask what is Trump doing [00:18:22] right. Deporting illegal immigrants. It [00:18:25] was popular among not only Republicans, [00:18:26] but I think it was plus 12 among [00:18:28] independents. It was positive among all [00:18:30] age demographics over the age of 30. So [00:18:33] only the very young were opposed to it. [00:18:35] It was pop very popular among men. And I [00:18:37] think it was 50/50 among women. It is [00:18:39] the issue that people voted for Donald [00:18:41] Trump. Listen, there was no like, oh, I [00:18:43] wonder what he'll sit there and do. The [00:18:45] signs were at the convention deport mass [00:18:47] deportation now. So overall, yes, when [00:18:50] they see the images on social media, [00:18:52] they really don't like him. It's really [00:18:53] g they don't like what happened in [00:18:55] Minneapolis. However, they still support [00:18:58] deport doing mass deportations. If blue [00:19:00] states would get on board with actually [00:19:02] allowing prisons to to so, you know, [00:19:05] obliged by ICE detainers and we could [00:19:06] deport them straight from prisons, which [00:19:08] blue states are stopping right now, it [00:19:10] would be a much easier and pragmatic [00:19:13] approach. We can't have that. We should [00:19:14] also be looking at finding increasing [00:19:16] fines against employers that hire [00:19:17] illegals. That's an easier way to do it. [00:19:19] But the good thing is that the Brookings [00:19:21] Institute and um AEI looked at this. [00:19:24] We're having a net loss about 100,000 [00:19:26] illegal foreignb born citizens this year [00:19:28] this year and not citizens but foreign [00:19:30] born residents this year and about half [00:19:32] a million next year. It is working. It [00:19:34] might be a little painful for the people [00:19:35] who are queasy but it is working and [00:19:37] it's a good thing. You had this [00:19:39] interesting take here and I think we've [00:19:41] got the graphic and we throw it up but [00:19:43] you you basically break down the the [00:19:47] states that are losing population and [00:19:49] this is something that we've been on [00:19:52] really for a long time. Ryan, where you [00:19:55] say green states that saw net positive [00:19:57] migration from other Americans, purple [00:19:59] states are states that saw net negative [00:20:02] migration, and you say this, immigration [00:20:05] is the only thing keeping certain blue [00:20:07] states like New York, Illinois, New [00:20:09] Jersey, and California from losing 10 [00:20:11] plus congressional districts. Take us [00:20:13] back in time because this was a fight in [00:20:16] Trump 1.0 I know where they tried to [00:20:19] make it so that in the census we would [00:20:21] not have illegals counted in the census. [00:20:25] What happened? Well, I mean listen, when [00:20:28] I say immigration, it is both legal and [00:20:30] illegal. I think that has to be sat [00:20:32] there and stated. Um, from my [00:20:34] recollection from the census thing, they [00:20:36] brought it up to the Supreme Court. The [00:20:37] Supreme Court said no, that they have to [00:20:39] be counted. Now, before that, there was [00:20:41] also a court case that said that only [00:20:43] people of voting age and legality should [00:20:46] be counted. In other words, children [00:20:48] shouldn't be counted and people who [00:20:49] can't be voted either they're residents [00:20:51] or they're visitors or they're legal [00:20:53] visitors or they are illegal aliens [00:20:54] should not be counted because that would [00:20:56] at least make every congressional [00:20:57] district of equal voting population. [00:20:59] There are some congressional districts [00:21:00] that have 100 or 150,000 more voters [00:21:03] than other districts. Makes them much [00:21:05] more expensive, harder to win. So that [00:21:07] was interesting. But all the court has [00:21:09] been very pretty consistent sitting [00:21:10] there and saying no, it's every person [00:21:11] in the building gets counted. So with [00:21:14] that with that happening, especially [00:21:16] because of COVID, there was a mass [00:21:18] change in movement as far as people [00:21:20] goes. California essentially has the [00:21:22] same amount of people today as it did in [00:21:25] 2020, right? American citizens are [00:21:28] leaving that state. They're leaving New [00:21:30] York. They're leaving Illinois. They're [00:21:31] not willing to deal with the nonsense of [00:21:34] failed government de uh Democrat [00:21:36] governance. [00:21:37] What is happening is is that the 300,000 [00:21:41] plus people who have moved to California [00:21:43] from other countries have made up from [00:21:46] the loss of population of Americans. So [00:21:49] in the 2030 census when California [00:21:51] should be like okay when they say how [00:21:53] are the states doing where do people [00:21:54] want to live? Where are people moving? [00:21:56] California should lose five seats. They [00:21:58] really probably should lose five seats. [00:21:59] They wouldn't have gained so many had it [00:22:01] not been for illegal aliens over time [00:22:02] but they should lose five seats. It is [00:22:04] only for legal and illegal immigration [00:22:06] that they don't lose more. So it is very [00:22:09] important in these four years where [00:22:11] President Trump's really cracking down [00:22:12] on illegal immigration. He is putting up [00:22:14] barriers for illegal immigration that we [00:22:16] sit there and we really reduce these [00:22:18] numbers because in the 2030 decade right [00:22:22] as it stands now Texas, Florida, Utah, [00:22:25] Arizona are all set to g Idaho set to [00:22:28] gain congressional seats. California, [00:22:30] New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, [00:22:33] Illinois will all lose. Or Washington or [00:22:35] Oregon is supposed to lose one as well. [00:22:37] They will all lose. What does that [00:22:40] actually mean as far as presidential [00:22:41] politics go? It means that that decade [00:22:43] will be the first decade where the [00:22:45] entire blue wall does not matter. In [00:22:47] other words, if a Republican wins North [00:22:48] Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Texas, [00:22:50] Arizona, they win the presidency. And [00:22:53] Ohio, I should say Ohio, too. As long as [00:22:55] they win Ohio plus those other states, [00:22:57] they win the presidency. There's no more [00:22:59] conversation of how Wisconsin's going. I [00:23:01] mean, it will be important to win those [00:23:03] states and to sit there and campaign [00:23:04] there, but it's not necessary anymore. [00:23:07] The entire climate changes and it [00:23:09] becomes very difficult for Democrats to [00:23:11] really climb out of that as Florida is [00:23:13] not a swing state anymore. As Texas has [00:23:15] not become a swing state like they hoped [00:23:17] it would be, Arizona, North Carolina, [00:23:19] and Georgia is really, you know, they [00:23:21] have they have work to do there to sit [00:23:22] there and try to win yet. And still they [00:23:25] cannot count on these big blue states to [00:23:28] live anymore because Americans don't [00:23:29] want to live there. [00:23:32] >> It's such a big topic, Ryan, because you [00:23:35] know, you have nativeborn Americans that [00:23:38] are abandoning American states. They're [00:23:41] they're completely they're opting out. [00:23:43] They're walking. [00:23:44] >> And it just it seems like such a [00:23:47] travesty that we have whole tracks of [00:23:49] this country that Americans find so [00:23:51] detestable that they refuse to live [00:23:53] there. It doesn't matter [00:23:55] of America. California was, let's be [00:23:56] frank, it was paradise for decades and [00:23:59] paradise is depopulating. It is a place [00:24:01] of the very rich and the very poor. [00:24:03] >> You have to be a special kind of stupid [00:24:06] to drive people away from California. [00:24:08] You just you you have to [00:24:09] >> Yeah. [00:24:10] >> Yeah. Go ahead, Brian. [00:24:12] >> Yeah. No, it's true. And think of I [00:24:13] mean, but think of like public schools, [00:24:14] right? Public schools are literally free [00:24:16] for people to attend and yet they still [00:24:18] won't. Democrats will make something [00:24:20] unlikable even if you give it away for [00:24:23] free. That is how bad some policies have [00:24:26] been. And think of all the millions who [00:24:27] are literally trapped there who vote [00:24:29] against his policies year in and year [00:24:31] out and they sit there and they try to [00:24:32] work their way to make sure [00:24:33] supermajorities maintain and and the [00:24:35] insanity continues. So I think it's very [00:24:38] very important though that the whole [00:24:39] country doesn't go down that route and [00:24:40] we are no longer held hostage to these [00:24:42] big blue states anymore because [00:24:44] Americans don't want to live there. And [00:24:45] if we can cut off illegal immigration, [00:24:47] start deporting people. I mean, we are, [00:24:49] but ramp it up. And if we can sit there [00:24:52] and reduce legal immigration on top of [00:24:54] that, we saw we we will see massive [00:24:56] change to the tune of 10 12 seats um out [00:24:59] of blue states into red, 10 12 electoral [00:25:02] colleges, and it's a whole different [00:25:03] ballgame. It's just a completely the [00:25:05] 2030s change radically. [00:25:07] >> Well, the 2030s change. I think there's [00:25:09] an I think there's an argument. Listen, [00:25:10] if we look at what the Democrats are [00:25:12] doing in Virginia, they're going full [00:25:14] Marxist in an a D+6 state and we we [00:25:18] can't get Indiana to redistrict. There's [00:25:20] a that we are we are taking a knife to a [00:25:22] gunfight, if you will. And it it's I [00:25:24] mean, we're just we're still playing [00:25:26] under an old playbook. And I I thought [00:25:28] we were past that. I thought in the ear [00:25:30] of Trump we'd finally learn learn our [00:25:31] lesson after 2024. We have not.