America is a Christian Country & We Need to Keep It That Way

[00:00:00] Thank you so much for joining the show. [00:00:01] I reached out to you, Nick, because I I [00:00:04] I see in you somebody after Charlie, [00:00:07] after we lost Charlie, after he was [00:00:09] killed, there is certain voices, certain [00:00:11] names, certain personalities with the [00:00:14] right disposition, [00:00:16] the right internal constitution that I [00:00:18] believe God is raising up and promoting [00:00:21] to help bring, you know, we're we're [00:00:24] filling the back lines here and [00:00:26] reinforcing the the front lines. So that [00:00:28] is one. You are one of those people. So [00:00:30] please just introduce yourself to our [00:00:32] audience and um and and welcome. [00:00:35] >> Oh gosh. Well, I'm honored. It was an [00:00:37] honor to actually get to speak at [00:00:38] Ampfest this year. You guys did an [00:00:40] incredible job. Um it was a wonderful [00:00:43] tribute to to Charlie. But yeah, just a [00:00:46] little bit about me. Uh as of yesterday, [00:00:48] I'm no longer a member of the Virginia [00:00:50] House of Delegates, but I served as a [00:00:51] state legislature legislator there for [00:00:54] 10 years. Before that, I did some time [00:00:55] in the United States Army with 82nd [00:00:58] Airborne, 25th Infantry. Did a couple [00:01:00] combat tours in Iraq with First Special [00:01:01] Forces Group. Uh but uh but more than [00:01:03] any of that, um I'm a husband and a [00:01:06] father. I've been married to my high [00:01:07] school sweetheart for 26 years. Uh I [00:01:10] tricked her into marrying me. We had a [00:01:12] very very small graduating class. She [00:01:13] didn't have a lot of options. And um and [00:01:16] then we have three wonderful kids, uh [00:01:18] 22, 20, and uh and 18. So yeah, that's [00:01:22] that's just a little bit about me. So, [00:01:24] funny backstory here is my wife follows [00:01:27] you on Instagram and she kept going, [00:01:29] "You need to get this guy on the show. [00:01:31] You need to get this guy on the show." [00:01:32] And I I kept saying, "Yeah, you know, I [00:01:33] don't I don't have a contact for him, [00:01:34] but I'm going to figure it out. We'll [00:01:35] figure it out." And you know, and then [00:01:37] you're at Amfest and I'm showing picture [00:01:39] of you on stage to my wife. And she's [00:01:41] like, "Will you finally get him on the [00:01:42] show?" I was like, "Yes, we we [00:01:43] absolutely will." Uh it so much of what [00:01:46] you say resonates with exactly what [00:01:48] Charlie would say. you have this uh such [00:01:50] a a a drum beat about family, marriage, [00:01:54] faith, uh owning your your own block, [00:01:58] taking responsibility for your own [00:01:59] actions. So much of your political [00:02:01] commentary originates out of that, just [00:02:03] like it did for Charlie. Explain why [00:02:04] that's important to you and explain. I [00:02:06] believe it's the path forward. I believe [00:02:07] that we don't got we don't have a [00:02:08] country if we lose our virtue and that [00:02:11] seems to actually be the core of your [00:02:13] message. [00:02:14] >> Oh, no. It's it's absolutely true. I I [00:02:16] was listening to, you know, people are [00:02:18] arguing about this now on the right [00:02:19] where we're having this internal battle [00:02:21] and we have some people arguing for more [00:02:23] liberty and some people arguing for more [00:02:25] order and and the bottom line is if you [00:02:26] want us if you want a civilization that [00:02:28] actually has ordered liberty where we [00:02:30] can actually work and cooperate and [00:02:32] create and build together, then virtue [00:02:35] has to be a part of that. And how do you [00:02:36] achieve that if you don't have if it's [00:02:38] not built upon something that actually [00:02:40] provides something transcendent? If you [00:02:43] want objective truth and objective [00:02:44] morality, I got news. There's only one [00:02:46] place I know to actually find those [00:02:48] things, and that's through Christ. And I [00:02:50] I think one of the things that I always [00:02:51] admired so much about Charlie was that [00:02:54] it it has become very very easy and [00:02:56] popular on the right to talk about what [00:02:58] we're fighting against, right? Because [00:02:59] every day we get new examples of what [00:03:01] we're fighting against. But I think [00:03:03] Charlie understood that the best [00:03:05] soldiers are not the people that hate [00:03:06] what they're fighting against. They're [00:03:07] the ones that love what they're fighting [00:03:09] for. M [00:03:10] >> and so when you put the emphasis on your [00:03:12] relationship with God, uh the [00:03:13] relationship you have with your spouse, [00:03:15] your children, [00:03:16] >> that's what actually gives you the [00:03:18] energy. Um it's what gives you the [00:03:20] discipline sometimes when when [00:03:21] motivation may may fall a little bit [00:03:23] short uh to keep going and to keep [00:03:25] fighting because when you know what it's [00:03:27] for um all all of a sudden the obstacles [00:03:30] don't seem so great. Yeah, I think [00:03:32] that's really well said. And we, you [00:03:34] know, I have to do a better job of that, [00:03:35] of promoting what we are for, what we [00:03:38] because we love this country. I always [00:03:39] say, I was born here, I'm going to die [00:03:42] here. My kids were born here, they're [00:03:43] probably going to die here. It's [00:03:45] probably true for my grandchildren. God, [00:03:46] I hope so. And I love this country so [00:03:49] much that I'm willing to to step into [00:03:52] roles that I never imagined for myself, [00:03:54] especially after Charlie. I'm willing to [00:03:56] to continue putting it all on the line [00:03:58] for this country. And uh when you say [00:03:59] stuff like that, it really inspires me, [00:04:01] Nick. And you know, you but again, you [00:04:03] have taken your faith and you've put it [00:04:05] into action, not only in Virginia, but [00:04:08] you know, I'm looking at your Twitter [00:04:09] feed and you're you're talking about the [00:04:11] primary season. We should be replacing [00:04:13] weak Republicans in safe districts. This [00:04:15] is what you will have the best chance of [00:04:16] winning and the others will get the [00:04:18] point. So, you are somebody that then [00:04:20] takes your faith, your your your [00:04:23] convictions, your love of this country, [00:04:24] you're putting it into action. explain [00:04:28] why that's important. I because a lot of [00:04:30] people, you know, I think it's like poso [00:04:32] will say this a lot. It's like, you [00:04:33] know, look at all the black pillars, the [00:04:35] doomers. Show me which ones have done [00:04:37] anything. Show show me which ones have [00:04:39] gotten out and chasing ballots that have [00:04:41] knocked on doors. And you will you will [00:04:43] separate the we from the chaff really [00:04:45] really quickly. [00:04:47] >> Oh, no. He's absolutely right. The the [00:04:48] people that the people that are most [00:04:50] convinced were doomed have probably put [00:04:52] in the least amount of effort to save [00:04:53] anything. [00:04:54] >> Boom. Um, and and I I think when when we [00:04:56] look at, okay, what is the strategy [00:04:58] going forward? The thing I'm always [00:04:59] going to start with is what is the thing [00:05:00] you have most control over in your life? [00:05:02] Because if you're spending hours of time [00:05:04] on campaigns and on social media [00:05:06] debating with people that are not even [00:05:08] going to give you a fair hearing, well, [00:05:10] in the meantime, your children are being [00:05:11] indoctrinated at school, I'm going to [00:05:13] argue that you're probably not investing [00:05:14] your time where where it can have the [00:05:16] most um the most impact. So, focus on [00:05:19] that first. What can you do about [00:05:20] yourself? What can you do about your [00:05:22] family? what you can do about your [00:05:23] family, your community, um, etc. But [00:05:25] then when it does come to the political [00:05:27] world, the other thing that's been [00:05:28] frustrating is watching people behave as [00:05:31] if, well, there's there's no real [00:05:32] difference between the two parties. We [00:05:34] had 300,000 people that showed up to [00:05:36] vote for Governor Glenn Yncan that [00:05:38] didn't show up to vote in this last [00:05:39] election. And you look at what Democrats [00:05:41] are doing in the first 24 hours they've [00:05:42] taken control. They're trying to turn [00:05:44] Virginia into California. And it's like, [00:05:46] look, no, you have to participate in the [00:05:49] political process. I'm not saying you [00:05:51] got to run for office. I'm not saying [00:05:52] you got to make it your whole life, [00:05:54] right? But this idea that you're going [00:05:55] to stand back because you're either [00:05:56] above all of that or well, you just [00:05:58] don't feel like that's what they should [00:06:00] be talking about from the pulpit. [00:06:02] Garbage. It's done. I'm sorry. You're [00:06:04] not going to find biblical justification [00:06:05] for that. Um what you need to be doing [00:06:07] is focusing on how do you be salt and [00:06:09] light in every area that you encounter [00:06:11] with. And then how do you be obedient to [00:06:13] what God's laid out as your purpose in [00:06:14] this life? And one of those realms is [00:06:17] the political. And and these people that [00:06:19] will say, "Well, Nick, you know, you [00:06:20] can't legislate morality." 10 years in [00:06:22] the general assembly, you want to know [00:06:23] how many bills I voted on that had no [00:06:25] moral premise? Zero. All legislation is [00:06:28] built upon a moral premise. And so [00:06:31] whereas I don't believe that we can [00:06:32] proilitize through the sword, I don't [00:06:34] believe that we're supposed to use [00:06:35] government as a mechanism to compel [00:06:37] people to believe what I believe about [00:06:39] God. By the same token, all law is [00:06:42] predicated upon some set of moral [00:06:45] principles. I would like my mor moral [00:06:48] principles to be represented in that [00:06:49] law. And so I do believe I have an [00:06:52] obligation to go out and to speak about [00:06:54] these things and and to not only let my [00:06:56] arguments speak for themselves, but also [00:06:58] the way I live my life to speak for [00:06:59] itself. Because one of the reasons why [00:07:02] so many young people were attracted to [00:07:03] what Charlie had to say was not simply [00:07:06] because he gave incredibly good [00:07:08] academically and intellectually rigorous [00:07:10] arguments. But when you took a look at [00:07:11] that guy's life, his marriage, his [00:07:14] relationship with his kids, his friends, [00:07:16] that was something to where no matter [00:07:18] what they were be told in college, they [00:07:19] could look at that and say, "I don't [00:07:21] know what it is, and I don't know what [00:07:22] the source of it is, but that guy's got [00:07:24] it and and I want it. That's somebody [00:07:26] who's worth listening to, not because [00:07:28] he's got a degree that he's pointing to, [00:07:30] but because he's got a lifetime worth of [00:07:31] accomplishments at a young age that I [00:07:33] would love to emulate. And that's the [00:07:35] thing that we need to do more of is [00:07:37] actually demonstrate to people what it [00:07:38] is that they're fighting for. And nobody [00:07:41] did it better than Charlie. I I think [00:07:43] that's actually an incredibly powerful [00:07:45] point there, uh, Nick, that we say we [00:07:48] ran into so many people who like would [00:07:50] say, "Ah, I disagree with Charlie on X [00:07:52] YZ thing." But that magnetic pull [00:07:55] because he he lived what he preached so [00:07:58] well and people have seen so many [00:08:00] hypocritical politicians, so many [00:08:01] hypocritical public figures, [00:08:02] hypocritical preachers and pastors. [00:08:04] >> We saw up close and we saw it. It was [00:08:06] all real. I think people could see that [00:08:08] that all of us who were around Charlie [00:08:10] were such big. we could testify so [00:08:13] genuinely to seeing that and I love that [00:08:15] you you you speak to that that's one of [00:08:17] the strongest things that you can offer [00:08:19] and it was always funny because Charlie [00:08:20] would run into that where people would [00:08:21] say a Charlie you know I disagree with [00:08:23] you on XYZ but I love all you've [00:08:24] accomplished and you just say what's [00:08:27] stopping you why why do you disagree you [00:08:29] can have all of these same things and [00:08:31] but I it ties into what you just said [00:08:33] which is it is so important I think [00:08:37] especially when we've been getting these [00:08:38] emails where it's like how do we come [00:08:39] together the country's fraying apart [00:08:41] that Charlie believes strongly in [00:08:44] representing a position to advocate for, [00:08:47] especially when the right is so defined [00:08:49] currently by just being an ad hoc [00:08:51] coalition of people opposed to the left. [00:08:53] Our biggest weakness is the sense that [00:08:55] we don't have a strong affirmative [00:08:57] premise. What would we do if the left [00:09:00] disappeared? We need to have an answer [00:09:02] to that. And I think Charlie offered [00:09:03] that. I think you're able to answer that [00:09:05] question, but a lot of people can't. [00:09:06] Friends, the Charlie Kirk show team [00:09:08] here. America's debt bomb has blown past [00:09:11] $ 37 trillion, and it's climbing every [00:09:14] second. President Trump is fighting for [00:09:16] fair trade and strong borders to slow [00:09:18] the train wreck. But the numbers don't [00:09:20] lie. When debt grows this fast, it can [00:09:22] threaten your savings and your family's [00:09:24] future. That's why more Americans are [00:09:26] turning to real assets like gold and [00:09:28] silver. I work with and recommend [00:09:30] Preserve Gold. 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So so it always starts with this [00:10:13] idea of okay as a man what am I trying [00:10:16] to do to be the sort of man that God [00:10:18] wants me to be to be the sort of man [00:10:19] that my husband or my my wife needs to [00:10:22] be the sort of man that my children [00:10:23] need? And when I'm focusing on those [00:10:25] things what what ends up developing as a [00:10:27] consequence of that is I get a lot [00:10:29] closer to being the sort of man that my [00:10:31] community needs and that my country [00:10:33] needs. And so I I want people to once [00:10:35] again be focused on what is their [00:10:37] obligation to God, what is their [00:10:38] obligation to their family, and then how [00:10:40] are they developing the the spiritual, [00:10:42] emotional, physical, professional, [00:10:44] intellectual skills to be able to do [00:10:46] that. I want a free country. But what [00:10:48] what does that mean? I want a free [00:10:49] country that is actually rooted in the [00:10:51] idea that the only way that you can have [00:10:52] liberty that makes any sense is that if [00:10:55] you actually have a culture which is [00:10:57] committed to truth, which is committed [00:10:58] to virtue. And so when I look at the way [00:11:01] that our founders actually formed this [00:11:02] government, I I think they were on to [00:11:04] something. It was this idea that we're [00:11:07] going to reserve the vast majority of [00:11:09] decision-making power to the individual [00:11:11] citizen. To the extent that we have [00:11:13] government, fine, at the local level, [00:11:15] they're going to be the ones that deal [00:11:16] with the things that are the most [00:11:17] intimate to your day-to-day lives. Then [00:11:19] we have the states, which are also [00:11:21] supposed to operate as sovereign [00:11:22] entities within their jurisdictions. And [00:11:24] when it comes to the federal government, [00:11:26] it's only going to worry about those [00:11:27] things which genuinely impact the [00:11:30] country as a whole. The federal [00:11:31] government was never meant to [00:11:33] micromanage our education, our [00:11:34] healthcare, our economy. Steven Miller [00:11:36] is 100% accurate when we say that the [00:11:39] federal bureaucracy is one of the [00:11:40] greatest threats to a free people ever [00:11:43] because those bureaucracies have they [00:11:45] they have goals and objectives of their [00:11:47] own which run contrary to a free state. [00:11:50] And so I I want a government which once [00:11:52] again understands its proper role. I [00:11:55] would argue in God's created order. You [00:11:57] know, again, keep us safe, enforce [00:11:59] contract law, make sure that nobody's [00:12:00] invading the country. But I don't need a [00:12:02] government to try to play daddy for [00:12:04] everybody. I need a government to stay [00:12:06] within its proper role so that free [00:12:08] people can figure things out through [00:12:10] voluntary cooperation. And I think if we [00:12:12] could get back to that point of [00:12:14] understanding that if you really want to [00:12:16] be free, then that also includes a great [00:12:18] deal of personal responsibility. And and [00:12:20] Adams probably said it best when he [00:12:22] said, "Our Constitution is written for a [00:12:24] moral and religious people and is [00:12:25] totally unsuited to the government of [00:12:26] any other." And so it it's about once [00:12:28] again recognizing that if we can if we [00:12:31] again have that shared commitment for [00:12:32] objective truth, objective morality, if [00:12:35] we can understand the author of [00:12:36] objective truth and and morality, uh [00:12:38] then I think we can have the sort of [00:12:40] place where we're so good at governing [00:12:42] ourselves and in our daily interactions [00:12:44] with our family, with our friends, with [00:12:45] our community that the idea that we [00:12:48] would need the government to to try to [00:12:50] run in and micro all these aspects would [00:12:52] just seem absurd to [00:12:53] >> you know, it's just such a it's such a [00:12:54] paradigm shift what you're describing [00:12:56] that I So many people would not even be [00:12:58] able because the left has led us down [00:13:00] this path for basically a century of big [00:13:03] brother government taking care of us [00:13:05] that to fully feel empowered to en enjoy [00:13:09] the totality of your individual agency [00:13:12] will I mean it really will take a [00:13:14] revival. I really believe that. Here's [00:13:16] Charlie in his own words I think [00:13:17] describing exactly what you're talking [00:13:19] about with a student on campus 459. The [00:13:22] practical solution, we don't have to [00:13:23] think. We need to point people to God [00:13:25] and eventually to Jesus Christ. And that [00:13:27] is the solution. People need to humble [00:13:29] themselves before the Lord. They need to [00:13:31] go back to church. They need to get [00:13:33] married before they have sex. They need [00:13:34] to stop engaging in debauchery and [00:13:36] limitless amounts of drinking and the [00:13:38] sins of the flesh and understand that [00:13:41] there's a God who loves them that wants [00:13:42] them to live a certain way. And it's not [00:13:45] a matter of the feminist movement or the [00:13:48] Black Lives Matter movement. We need a [00:13:50] movement that is centered around [00:13:52] spiritual eternal principles. But a [00:13:54] revival will only happen with [00:13:55] repentance. And repentance is at odd [00:13:58] with pride. There is a God and we are [00:14:00] not him. Those two things are [00:14:03] fundamental towards having hopefully the [00:14:05] humility of getting in front of your [00:14:07] creator. Understanding that you fall [00:14:09] short of the glory of God with the eyes [00:14:11] on the cross and understanding the [00:14:13] significance of what the cross is and [00:14:15] what it means for your life. [00:14:18] I just love hearing him just preach it. [00:14:20] Just preach it. Repentance. That line [00:14:22] about repentance just got me. Go ahead. [00:14:24] Yeah. [00:14:25] >> Well, I I think it's also I I've noticed [00:14:27] this um you know, since Charlie since [00:14:29] Charlie was murdered, I I've spoken at [00:14:31] at several universities to include Cal [00:14:33] Berkeley, right, which is not exactly a [00:14:35] bastion of conservative thought. And it [00:14:37] it is amazing to me how few questions I [00:14:40] get on politics, at least in compared to [00:14:42] what I would have gotten a year ago. The [00:14:45] vast majority of questions I'm getting [00:14:46] now are about how do I be a better man? [00:14:48] How do I raise the sort of family I [00:14:50] want? How do I how do I how do I [00:14:53] continue to foster an important [00:14:54] relationship with God? And and I had I [00:14:56] had one student actually af come up and [00:14:58] he goes, "How do I stand up for my faith [00:15:00] when it's so difficult?" And I said, [00:15:01] "Why is it difficult?" And he goes, [00:15:03] "Well, just my my peers, you know, my [00:15:05] peers don't don't share my worldview." [00:15:07] And I said, "So why is it difficult?" [00:15:09] And he goes, "Well, well, my my college [00:15:11] professors, you know, they they will [00:15:13] criticize." is I said once again I'm not [00:15:14] trying to be a smart alec here. Why is [00:15:16] it difficult? [00:15:18] And what he was getting to is that [00:15:19] there's there's social there's academic [00:15:21] consequences. There's there's [00:15:22] potentially economic consequences. I [00:15:24] looked at him and I said, "Look, I'm not [00:15:26] discounting those, but here's what I [00:15:27] will tell you. Every time you suffer [00:15:30] anything, no matter how minor, your [00:15:32] immediate response should be, thank you, [00:15:35] God, that I could suffer something for [00:15:36] your name." [00:15:38] >> Said, "Because as soon as you take in [00:15:39] that attitude, then every time it [00:15:41] happens, you're not upset. you're [00:15:43] smiling because you know what it [00:15:44] represents. And if you actually want to [00:15:46] foster the kind of mindset that can save [00:15:48] your country, that's it. Because you're [00:15:50] not going to do it apart from the [00:15:52] revival side. Because why are we doing [00:15:54] all this? Secular humanism. It It's not [00:15:56] as if we're not living in an environment [00:15:58] which has been inextricably shaped by [00:16:01] secular humanism for the last several [00:16:02] decades. Is anyone happy with it? I it [00:16:06] it's amazing to me that when I when I [00:16:07] actually mention Jesus, when I mention [00:16:10] the Bible, I will have people on our [00:16:12] side that will say, "Nick, I like what [00:16:13] you have to say, but can you leave God [00:16:14] out of it?" No, he's the author of what [00:16:16] I'm talking about. It would it would be [00:16:19] plagiarism for me to suggest that these [00:16:21] are just Nick Freighus' idea. They're [00:16:22] not. I'm ripping him off. But here's [00:16:24] what I would ask you to consider. If if [00:16:27] you if you trusted Charlie and you you [00:16:29] agreed that he could give really good [00:16:30] arguments, if you can look around at the [00:16:32] world right now and what's actually been [00:16:33] governing up until this point and come [00:16:35] to the recognition that the people least [00:16:38] happy, we we think we're unhappy with [00:16:41] what's going on with woke. Go look at [00:16:43] the charts of the people most likely to [00:16:45] actually be diagnosed with a mental [00:16:47] health issue. And it's young women [00:16:49] between the ages of 18 and 29 who [00:16:52] identify as liberal. They are the ones [00:16:54] suffering the most from what they have [00:16:56] accomplished. [00:16:57] >> And at this point, I think it's [00:16:59] perfectly reasonable for us to say we're [00:17:01] advocating for something else. [00:17:03] >> And and the answer is not just in the [00:17:06] arguments that we use. It's not just in [00:17:08] the logical consistency or effectiveness [00:17:10] of the arguments and the way that we [00:17:12] construct them. It's actually found in [00:17:13] the way we live our lives and the [00:17:15] results of those actions in that [00:17:16] worldview. [00:17:17] >> Spiritual battle, light versus darkness. [00:17:22] How much I mean how much of that do you [00:17:25] see whether it's the infighting on the [00:17:27] right whether it's some of the [00:17:29] progressive ideology the Marxist [00:17:31] ideology how much do you think this [00:17:33] defines our current moment is it [00:17:35] overused is it underused [00:17:37] >> I I challenge anyone to just go with an [00:17:40] open mind and read the book of Romans [00:17:42] and not think it provides a a perfect [00:17:44] example of what we see going on around [00:17:46] us it's this idea of people being [00:17:48] totally given over to a way of thinking [00:17:50] that bears No, for forget morality. It [00:17:53] bears no resemblance to reality. When [00:17:56] when you have Supreme Court justices or [00:17:58] you have people arguing behind before [00:18:00] the the highest courts in the land, they [00:18:01] cannot make distinctions between a man [00:18:03] or a woman is because they're terrified [00:18:05] of the political implications. I think [00:18:07] we have to understand that there's a [00:18:08] spiritual component here. And by the [00:18:10] way, if you believe in God, then [00:18:11] believing in the spiritual should be [00:18:13] obvious and logical. I think the [00:18:15] spiritual component cannot be [00:18:16] undermined. Um it it has to it has to [00:18:18] lead. It can't just be this side [00:18:20] component where we think if we make a [00:18:22] really good economic argument that'll [00:18:24] win the day. We've seen what happens [00:18:26] when you actually have a conservative [00:18:27] movement that is obsessed with the [00:18:29] economic but then gives up on the truly [00:18:31] moral issues of our day. And and it [00:18:33] turns out that Democrats or or leftists [00:18:35] or wokeists, they don't mind moving to [00:18:36] your state to take the tax advantages [00:18:38] and then all of a sudden push their [00:18:40] indoctrination within your school [00:18:41] system. So I I think we have to [00:18:44] understand what it is that we're [00:18:45] fighting for on the fundamental level. [00:18:47] And and I think the key to this is that [00:18:49] when you look at young men and you look [00:18:51] at the the overwhelming numbers for [00:18:53] which they are returning to the faith [00:18:54] where they're trying to look at [00:18:55] something that will actually give them [00:18:57] an identity that is that is [00:18:58] transcendent. Um that's incredibly [00:19:01] encouraging. That that tells me that the [00:19:03] right questions are being asked within [00:19:05] the next generation because they're not [00:19:07] just interested in how they get onto a [00:19:08] campaign or how do they run for office. [00:19:10] They're actually interested in the [00:19:12] things that are virtuous and moral and [00:19:14] noble and just. And by the way, they [00:19:17] want a cause to fight for. They want to [00:19:19] risk something for what they believe. [00:19:21] They just want to make sure it's worth [00:19:22] it. And as they walk back into our [00:19:24] churches right now, the most important [00:19:26] message I can send out to the men in [00:19:27] those churches is you have a generation [00:19:29] of young men looking for answers, [00:19:31] looking for truth, and they want to be [00:19:32] honorable. What do they find when they [00:19:34] walk into your church? Because if they [00:19:36] find weak men, if they find men that are [00:19:38] unwilling to stand for anything, if they [00:19:40] find men that are unwilling to accept [00:19:42] risk, if they find men that may talk a [00:19:43] good game but don't live it out, I [00:19:45] promise you they have other options to [00:19:47] listen to. [00:19:48] >> Because the one thing I know is woke [00:19:50] losses. Woke loses no matter what. You [00:19:53] do not win a war. You do not fight a [00:19:54] revolution. You do not run a country [00:19:56] with people who define themselves by [00:19:58] their mental illness. That does not [00:20:00] happen. So young men will determine the [00:20:04] outcome of what happens next. The [00:20:06] question is is are they going to listen [00:20:07] to the sort of men like Charlie Kirk or [00:20:08] are they going to find answers somewhere [00:20:10] else? And if they find answers somewhere [00:20:11] else, this can get bad really quick. [00:20:14] >> Well said. [00:20:16] >> All men have need of the gods. It [00:20:18] depends on which one you will follow. [00:20:21] >> Bob Dylan said something like that too. [00:20:23] >> Also Homer. Yeah. The ancient Homer. Not [00:20:25] not Homer Simpson. [00:20:26] >> Yeah. But [00:20:27] >> Bob Homer. [00:20:28] >> Bob Bob Dylan and Homer. I Blake is our [00:20:31] is our history buff here and uh we're [00:20:33] grateful for him. I I I I want to [00:20:35] respect your time. I know uh Steven [00:20:37] Miller went long and so we had to sort [00:20:39] of compress our time with you, Nick. I [00:20:41] hope you will come back on with us soon. [00:20:42] I think you have so much to offer. I [00:20:45] just want to full circle why I thought [00:20:48] it was important to have you on is [00:20:49] because I I do believe God is raising up [00:20:52] more leaders that are going to be more [00:20:54] and more prominent and you're one of [00:20:56] those. Um, so thank you for making the