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[00:00:00] Okay, everyone. Happy Thursday. I have [00:00:03] to tell you that I was laughing so much [00:00:04] yesterday because I received a flood of [00:00:07] emails from law enforcement officers, [00:00:09] military guys that were just like, "No [00:00:12] way. Absolutely not. That's where I draw [00:00:14] the line. The bomb dogs missed the gun." [00:00:18] Apparently, for people who work with [00:00:20] bomb dogs, this is more of an offense to [00:00:23] their intelligence than the man of steel [00:00:25] neck. Like, it was just a bridge too [00:00:26] far. This is where they are drawing a [00:00:29] line in terms of feds. Anyway, we have [00:00:32] another unbelievable episode for you [00:00:33] guys here today. I thought long and hard [00:00:35] about whether to bring on the eyewitness [00:00:39] from Fort Wuka. And I think when we [00:00:43] speak to him today and he gives you his [00:00:45] testimony, you will of course understand [00:00:47] why. I am always honored uh to have any [00:00:50] person that serves in our military, [00:00:52] especially honored to have him given all [00:00:54] that he has lived through despite the [00:00:56] firestorm that I know that both he and I [00:00:58] are about to endure. Welcome back to [00:01:01] Candace. [00:01:18] Okay, so a couple of things before we [00:01:20] get into that interview. I at the top of [00:01:23] the show first want to tell you about [00:01:25] this interesting question that I [00:01:27] received yesterday from one of our [00:01:29] viewers over on X that I wanted to [00:01:31] address. He asked me specifically if I [00:01:34] saw black plastic fragmentation [00:01:39] over the floor of Charlie's SUV. I was [00:01:42] immediately struck by this question [00:01:44] because I am not kidding. When I tell [00:01:47] you that the very first thing that I [00:01:48] noticed when I went through those photos [00:01:52] of Charlie's SUV, I said to my team that [00:01:54] it looked like there were shards of [00:01:56] glass, like tempered glass that you [00:01:58] might see if you drop or break an [00:02:00] iPhone. Uh it was very distinct to me in [00:02:02] the picture from the blood that is all [00:02:04] over the seats and all over the floor. I [00:02:07] was like, "Oh, maybe like someone broke [00:02:08] a window or something." And then I sort [00:02:10] of put it out of my mind and [00:02:12] particularly I noticed a lot of it [00:02:14] spread across that back back seat rear [00:02:16] floor. So, I'm going to show you that [00:02:17] just a couple of photos of that close up [00:02:19] so that you can see it. Uh what that [00:02:22] looks like because yeah, it was just [00:02:24] kind of a compelling thing that he [00:02:26] noticed something that I noticed and you [00:02:28] can see it was unusual. I I think in [00:02:31] this person's mind, they the the line [00:02:35] that they were going down, I guess the [00:02:36] line of questioning that they were going [00:02:37] down in their own mind was, is this [00:02:39] evidence that something broke on [00:02:40] Charlie? Could something have been [00:02:42] rigged? And I want to say that we can't [00:02:44] necessarily extrapolate that from what [00:02:47] we're looking at. It could be a thousand [00:02:49] other things. Somebody could have [00:02:50] actually broken a phone in there. [00:02:51] Somebody could have had something in [00:02:52] there. It could be broken hard candy. I [00:02:54] mean, there's a lot going on. And yeah, [00:02:57] I just But I did want to address that [00:02:59] because it was interesting that he noted [00:03:02] it and asked if if we saw little black [00:03:04] bits and we and I I do that is visually [00:03:06] what I see. I am hesitant, by the way, [00:03:10] to put up the rest of the photos. Kind [00:03:12] of still going through that. I want to [00:03:13] be slow on that because obviously I [00:03:16] don't want the federal officers, the [00:03:18] good guys that are in there who have [00:03:19] assisted in this to be rumbled, right? I [00:03:22] don't want people cash to go on a hunt [00:03:25] and figure out who gave us what and [00:03:27] people to start getting fired. We need [00:03:28] to have the white knights in government. [00:03:30] So, I just need some time to think about [00:03:32] that. And yeah, anyways, what we can do, [00:03:35] however, and what we're starting to [00:03:37] formulate now are just addressing these [00:03:38] data points, right? These these [00:03:41] mysterious circumstances, these things [00:03:42] that don't necessarily make sense. What [00:03:44] do we actually know about that day? And [00:03:47] what's really interesting for me is when [00:03:50] I review these data points, I I can't [00:03:52] fathom how there are people out there [00:03:54] right now trying to convince you that [00:03:56] there is overwhelming evidence that [00:03:57] Tyler Robinson committed this crime. [00:03:59] There's actually no there's no evidence [00:04:01] outside of these shady messages that are [00:04:04] not even timestamped. [00:04:06] He we don't have a confession from him. [00:04:08] We have nothing. Okay. So, these are [00:04:09] just some some data points for you to to [00:04:11] remember as we go through this. [00:04:13] The surgeon never confirmed or even [00:04:16] suggested that Charlie was shot with a [00:04:19] 30 odd six or that Charlie had a steel [00:04:21] neck uh that stopped that bullet. [00:04:24] Rather, he suggested throughout the [00:04:26] course of a conversation that maybe A [00:04:29] frangible bullet was used. The lone [00:04:32] confirmed eyewitness that we have that [00:04:34] is confirmed to the alleged shooter on [00:04:36] Loy Center rooftop before the sound goes [00:04:39] off. The sound of a shot rings out has [00:04:42] not been contacted by the lawyers or the [00:04:45] investigators on either side of this [00:04:48] trial, the pending trial. We are now in [00:04:49] the phase where investigators are [00:04:51] supposed to go out and be collecting [00:04:53] more evidence pending um the May [00:04:56] probable cause hearing. He still has not [00:04:58] been contacted. And why is that crucial? [00:05:01] Because this individual is an instructor [00:05:03] at a gun range. He claims the weapon [00:05:05] that he saw looked more like a 223. [00:05:09] Quote, something shorter than the one [00:05:11] that they found. The person that he [00:05:14] observed was wearing what seemed to him [00:05:16] to be black tactical gear plus a face [00:05:17] mask. And he describes that person as [00:05:19] looking like a like a professional. [00:05:22] The bomb dogs were unable to locate the [00:05:26] weapon in the field. where it was [00:05:28] eventually discovered despite the fact [00:05:30] that they had crawled over that area. [00:05:32] They just weren't on their game that [00:05:33] day. That this is not my favorite part [00:05:34] of the story. It's just a little I just [00:05:36] didn't expect uh the reaction to be what [00:05:39] it was. It's I I just love the people [00:05:40] that are like no. Absolut [00:05:48] directed local officers to the weapon. [00:05:50] Lucky feds. Lucky feds. The canines were [00:05:53] not provided with the scent of the [00:05:55] weapon once it was discovered. So they [00:05:57] did not then take that weapon and then [00:05:59] have the dogs trace it back to the top [00:06:01] of lawy. That did not happen. Uh Terl [00:06:04] Farnsworth still major question marks. [00:06:06] He raced to remove the camera that was [00:06:08] directly behind Charlie's head. I want [00:06:10] to tell you, by the way, I'm reading [00:06:12] myself into this, so not a data point, [00:06:14] but in my mind, when I imagine why he [00:06:17] might have done that, uh, I think it's [00:06:20] because they were going to go with this [00:06:22] story that a 306 hit Charlie Kirk. And [00:06:26] what debunked that obviously would be [00:06:28] seeing that it didn't it didn't go [00:06:30] through. There was no like there was no [00:06:31] evidence of what should have been a [00:06:33] tremendous amount of damage done to his [00:06:35] neck. I also want to say here because [00:06:37] I've heard that various people like Terl [00:06:40] are getting death threats. Obviously, if [00:06:41] you're watching this show, we are [00:06:43] investigating what happened with Charlie [00:06:45] Kirk. I have been clear that I do [00:06:46] believe that there are some people that [00:06:47] are engaged in a cover up. I am never [00:06:49] giving anybody the permission to, you [00:06:51] know, go be a bandit and go outside and [00:06:53] and take the law into your own hands. [00:06:55] That's not what we should ever be doing [00:06:57] and engaging in. Um, next data point [00:07:01] that we have, federal agents prevented [00:07:03] the surgeon from returning to his [00:07:05] operating room. I told you that was [00:07:07] something that startled him and he [00:07:09] placed a call presumably to DC uh to [00:07:12] make them move because he wanted that [00:07:14] obviously the team to get back in there [00:07:15] to clean it to make sure that Charlie [00:07:17] could get cleaned up before Erica came [00:07:18] in. Uh, federal agents removed the [00:07:21] hospital surveillance footage. They're [00:07:23] on a manhunt and for some reason that [00:07:25] seemed like something that they should [00:07:26] do. that strikes me as tremendously odd. [00:07:29] We have that the vehicle in which [00:07:30] Charlie was transported to Tempenos or [00:07:32] Tanagos Hospital was not impounded by [00:07:36] law enforcement. It's very odd. Uh and [00:07:39] there were multiple sets of prints on [00:07:42] the weapon that was found. Something [00:07:43] that I did not share with you, but I did [00:07:45] know this for some time and I can [00:07:48] confirm this to you because that's one [00:07:49] of their things. They got the prints of [00:07:51] Tyler Robinson on this gun. There were [00:07:53] multiple sets of prints that were on the [00:07:56] gun that was recovered thanks to the [00:08:00] instincts of the feds and not the noses [00:08:02] of the dogs. And finally, and I think [00:08:07] this is a big thing, the footage of [00:08:09] Tyler Robinson turning himself in is [00:08:10] apparently missing. And I have told you [00:08:12] guys, and again, I'm reading myself into [00:08:14] this. And in my investigation, I found [00:08:16] that their entire story about how the [00:08:18] parents turned him in and did the right [00:08:20] thing is crap. It is BS. That's not what [00:08:23] happened. They were told either, you [00:08:25] know, these doors are going to get [00:08:26] broken down or you're going to you're [00:08:27] going to come in peacefully. Uh and [00:08:30] Tyler chose the latter. I also was told [00:08:32] by police officers that were there when [00:08:35] he he came into the police uh that they [00:08:37] were they were told not to look at him. [00:08:41] They were told to avoid cameras. Very [00:08:44] strange things that happened when he did [00:08:47] eventually come in. And we won't know [00:08:48] how strange because apparently the [00:08:50] footage is missing according to local [00:08:52] Utah news that they they didn't say a [00:08:55] foya. There's another term. What was a [00:08:56] gamma requested for that footage and [00:08:59] were basically told well now there's [00:09:01] been an expiration on that footage and [00:09:03] we don't have it. So maybe they just [00:09:06] mean they already handed it over to [00:09:08] investigators. I don't know. But we will [00:09:11] wait and see. That's a lot that is going [00:09:13] on. I want to pivot now because our [00:09:16] instincts, which they keep mocking us [00:09:18] over, I think are on the money. We're [00:09:21] going to talk now about Christianity. [00:09:24] Christianity, I'm putting that in [00:09:26] quotation marks because it has been on [00:09:28] this podcast a recurring theme, right? I [00:09:31] keep sensing [00:09:32] a that these pastors are dangerous, [00:09:36] right? I've covered extensively how even [00:09:38] just amongst the Cavalry Chapel uh in [00:09:41] particular, there's just way too much of [00:09:44] a habit of establishing former [00:09:46] pedophiles and drug traffickers as lead [00:09:49] pastors of churches. Okay? I'm not [00:09:51] saying that people can't find God. I'm [00:09:55] just saying that my preference would be [00:09:57] that they maybe not be provided with [00:09:58] access to children, right? if if you [00:10:01] committed a crime against child. Uh this [00:10:04] is a preference that I guess is not or [00:10:07] perhaps is in conflict with the beliefs [00:10:10] and the preferences of Rob McCoy who [00:10:11] makes my skin crawl. We showed you uh [00:10:14] that interview that he did with somebody [00:10:15] who apparently went on rampage. He [00:10:17] actually went to prison for it and he [00:10:18] was just sort of laundering his [00:10:19] reputation and then gave him access [00:10:21] again uh to children. I feel like that [00:10:23] is very wrong. [00:10:25] I have also on this show been speaking a [00:10:28] lot about these quote unquote Christian [00:10:30] influencers. Something's not right. A [00:10:34] lot of women who seem to know their [00:10:36] Bibles for almost the implicit and [00:10:40] explicit aim of socially engineering the [00:10:43] population, right? Telling you, "Oh, [00:10:45] it's right here in the Bible." Same with [00:10:46] the pastors. God doesn't want you to [00:10:48] follow Tucker Carlson on Instagram. Josh [00:10:50] Hammer is amazing. Candace is possessed [00:10:53] by a demon. You don't want to be [00:10:54] possessed by a demon. So unfollow Tucker [00:10:56] Carlson and unfollow Candace and I [00:10:58] promise there is no other motivations. [00:11:00] Candace is just crazy and you should [00:11:01] listen to me. Similarly, there are so [00:11:04] many conservative media companies who [00:11:06] are run by former military intelligence. [00:11:08] People that leave naval intelligence, [00:11:10] people that lead the MSAD, uh suddenly [00:11:12] their aim is to speak about [00:11:13] Judeo-Christian values. Uh you know, [00:11:16] they find God after they they leave the [00:11:19] military. I'm not saying that that's [00:11:20] impossible. I'm just saying that this is [00:11:21] something that we have discussed a lot [00:11:22] on this podcast. I have been suggesting [00:11:25] to you all that faith has been [00:11:27] infiltrated by the military and people [00:11:29] laughed. They laughed. Well, you guys [00:11:30] didn't laugh, but like, oh, what do you [00:11:32] mean by that? Well, you guys pull up a [00:11:35] chair because it's about to get even [00:11:36] more interesting. Fort Wuka, as many of [00:11:40] you in the military have informed me, is [00:11:43] actually an intelligence base. Now for [00:11:45] those of you who are ignorant like me [00:11:47] regarding the structure of the military, [00:11:49] this is an important distinction to make [00:11:51] in your mind because when we think about [00:11:53] military bases, at least me, maybe you [00:11:56] can uh you have the same mindset. I tend [00:11:59] to think about where they're scrambling [00:12:01] off the planes off of an air base if [00:12:03] there's an attack, right? Oh, quickly [00:12:06] jump into jump into your planes and get [00:12:08] into the air or maybe get into the sea. [00:12:11] It just requires an immediate response. [00:12:13] But that is not what Fort Wuka in [00:12:15] Arizona is. Okay? It is a hub for [00:12:18] intelligence training. Civilians can be [00:12:22] turned into intelligence assets on this [00:12:24] base. They can take courses to join the [00:12:27] intelligence community. Okay, just [00:12:28] giving you one example of an email that [00:12:30] I got. Quote, just FYI, Fort Wuka is [00:12:33] where soldiers go for their MIT courses. [00:12:36] That is Army military intelligence. Once [00:12:38] a soldier has finished basic training, [00:12:40] they go here for their advanced training [00:12:42] for their actual job in Army military [00:12:45] intelligence. End quote. Okay. Now, [00:12:47] among the many emails that I received [00:12:48] regarding what sort of intelligence [00:12:50] courses take place, I was absolutely [00:12:53] floored when a person who grew up and [00:12:56] lives just outside of the base in uh in [00:13:01] Sierra Vista told me something. I'm [00:13:03] going to recount the story to you and [00:13:06] I'm going to paraphrase a little bit of [00:13:08] this so that I protect their identity. [00:13:10] Basically, their story begins in May of [00:13:12] 2013. They are two recently baptized [00:13:15] Christians. Like I said, they grew up in [00:13:16] this area, Sierra Vista, and they [00:13:18] decided they were going to pour their [00:13:19] savings into starting a gym. Now, of [00:13:22] course, because it's a gym that's [00:13:23] located off base, they had a lot of [00:13:25] clientele who happened to be associated [00:13:27] with the base. And one such client uh [00:13:30] was a woman that they met, a couple that [00:13:32] they met that were on fire for the Lord, [00:13:35] right? That couple uh made a sizable [00:13:40] investment in their gym and became quote [00:13:43] unquote founding members. Okay, so the [00:13:45] gym owners [00:13:47] were drawn to this couple because they [00:13:49] were so bold in their faith. They were [00:13:52] like, I I loved the bold proclamation of [00:13:54] their faith and we thought this is [00:13:56] great. This this is going to work. they [00:13:58] accept money from them. So, you can [00:14:00] imagine that they were then completely [00:14:01] surprised and shocked when this couple [00:14:04] over time effectively staged something [00:14:07] akin to a hostile takeover of their [00:14:10] company, undermining them while [00:14:12] pretending to be their friends, going [00:14:14] behind their backs, propositioning other [00:14:16] gym members. I'm going to be clear here. [00:14:18] This is obviously allegedly uh I'm going [00:14:21] to say allegedly allegedly allegedly [00:14:22] here the couple almost lost everything [00:14:25] in the process and they had to start all [00:14:27] over again. Now what was once the [00:14:29] fastest growing gym in Sierra Vista [00:14:33] suddenly [00:14:35] they were forced to relocate and [00:14:37] downsize their company entirely. So now [00:14:39] it's 2015 they are in their new smaller [00:14:42] location of a gym. And I'm going to read [00:14:44] this next portion of the email that I [00:14:46] received verbatim. Again, allegedly, [00:14:49] allegedly, allegedly, because he names [00:14:51] an individual, an individual who I do [00:14:53] not know. I have never heard of this [00:14:54] individual, but I feel it is relevant [00:14:57] because I'd like to learn more. The [00:14:59] email continues, quote, "We were [00:15:01] struggling, sometimes barely making [00:15:03] rent, but still serving the community, [00:15:05] including military students who came [00:15:07] through for 4 to sixmonth training [00:15:10] courses." Okay, I want to stress that [00:15:12] again. got all these students that are [00:15:14] coming in and their training is lasting [00:15:15] between four to six months. So, they're [00:15:16] signing up for this gym. Back into the [00:15:18] quotation, um, one morning I noticed a [00:15:21] female military military member [00:15:23] lingering after class. She was visibly [00:15:25] distressed, so I kept the gym open [00:15:26] longer than usual to give her space to [00:15:29] talk. We ended up conversing for about [00:15:31] 45 minutes, and what she shared with me [00:15:33] has stuck with me ever since. She said [00:15:36] she quote, "Could not take it anymore." [00:15:39] When I asked for details, she explained [00:15:41] that her stress was coming from a class [00:15:42] that she was taking on Fort Wuka, taught [00:15:45] by none other than Bruce Bevans. My ears [00:15:48] perked up when I heard his name as I [00:15:49] immediately remembered the incident with [00:15:52] his wife. This young woman described [00:15:55] Bruce as quote, "The most evil man that [00:15:57] she had ever met." She then revealed [00:15:59] something that I wasn't expecting at [00:16:01] all. The class's objective was to teach [00:16:04] military personnel to infiltrate [00:16:06] Christian groups and organizations [00:16:08] through covert psychological operations. [00:16:12] The training focused specifically on [00:16:14] deceiving Christians. At the time, I [00:16:16] didn't fully connect the dots. Our gym [00:16:18] was and still is an openly Christian [00:16:20] faith-based organization. But looking [00:16:22] back now, I have to wonder if the [00:16:23] infiltration and the destruction of our [00:16:25] gym was actually a training exercise or [00:16:27] field assignment. I also wonder if the [00:16:29] distressed young soldier was sent to our [00:16:31] gym on assignment from Bruce, but [00:16:34] couldn't follow through with her [00:16:35] objectives and instead chose to confide [00:16:37] in me. There were other students who [00:16:39] will corroborate this type of training. [00:16:41] Two military students, both named blank [00:16:43] and blank, I'm redacting that passed [00:16:46] through our gym during this same period. [00:16:48] They shared similar stories but seemed [00:16:50] much more advanced in their training. On [00:16:52] one occasion after I asked what was so [00:16:54] funny in the back of my class, they [00:16:55] privately shared that they had just [00:16:56] returned from an overnight field [00:16:58] training mission with very little sleep. [00:17:00] Their objective had been to deceive [00:17:01] civilians in Tucson about an hour north [00:17:04] of us. They practiced at local bars and [00:17:06] public venues on unsuspecting people, [00:17:08] telling lies, remembering those lies, [00:17:10] and maintaining their false personas [00:17:12] without quote unquote breaking [00:17:14] character. They laughed about their [00:17:15] conquests while working out at our gym. [00:17:17] Now, I got the impression that their [00:17:18] deception sometimes extended to sexual [00:17:21] encounters with their targets. At the [00:17:23] time, I found this disturbing, but I did [00:17:25] not know what to make of it. Now, 12 [00:17:27] years later, and watching the situation [00:17:28] unfold with Charlie Kirk and learning [00:17:29] that some of his most trusted people may [00:17:32] have been trained operatives who [00:17:33] infiltrated Turning Point USA, these [00:17:35] memories suddenly seem significant. You [00:17:37] mentioned previously that there was a [00:17:38] strange military background connection [00:17:40] among some of the people involved. I am [00:17:42] now wondering if instructors like Bruce [00:17:44] Bevven trained some of these individuals [00:17:46] before they infiltrated Christian [00:17:48] organizations like Turning Point USA. [00:17:51] End quote. [00:17:53] Now, I obviously cannot confirm just [00:17:55] yet. I'm sure after the show we're going [00:17:57] to get a bunch of emails the allegations [00:17:59] against Bruce. Again, I have never heard [00:18:00] of this individual. What I can say to [00:18:02] you is on a guttural level, I feel this [00:18:04] is accurate. I do. It is what I have [00:18:08] noticed. It's what I've been pointing to [00:18:09] you all year. Many of these pastors are [00:18:11] behaving like operatives and many of [00:18:13] these Christian influencers are behaving [00:18:14] like operatives. And I keep telling you [00:18:17] that all roads including the Egyptian [00:18:20] here Israeli uh planes lead to the front [00:18:26] door of Turning Point USA. Faith I kept [00:18:29] saying there's something when faith [00:18:30] suddenly infiltrated and something [00:18:32] happened to this organization and I feel [00:18:35] this email is a big piece of the puzzle. [00:18:39] Okay. So, if you played a part in these [00:18:42] exercises on Fort Wuka base where you [00:18:45] were learning instructions about how to [00:18:47] be a good little Christian to infiltrate [00:18:49] and potentially to overthrow a Christian [00:18:51] organization and maybe you're having [00:18:53] some second thoughts about your soul and [00:18:55] you'd like to speak to me about it off [00:18:56] record, please email more tips at [00:18:58] candacewowens.com. [00:19:01] And I would also like you all to [00:19:04] remember that we suddenly have been [00:19:08] experiencing wallto-wall panic ever [00:19:12] since we mentioned Fort Wuka. You saw [00:19:14] this. It's I mean the articles right now [00:19:17] are unhinged. They are they are just [00:19:19] doing fiction. The panic button was [00:19:22] pressed when we mentioned Fort Wuka in [00:19:24] the alleged meeting that happened on the [00:19:27] morning of September 9th. So we're going [00:19:29] to get into that. By the way, for those [00:19:31] of you that thought that this person was [00:19:33] making it up, he was uh apparently not [00:19:36] familiar with metadata. I don't think he [00:19:38] was. And he had not sent me the photos [00:19:41] that he took that morning on the base. [00:19:42] So, he tells a story. I stepped outside. [00:19:44] I got coffee. Well, because he thought [00:19:46] he was going to write, and I'm laughing [00:19:48] here, going to like write the wrong of [00:19:50] his past. He was sort of documenting [00:19:53] himself while he was on the base. So, he [00:19:55] sent sends me over all this stuff and I [00:19:57] literally was able to confirm with the [00:19:59] metadata uh where he was, exactly what [00:20:01] time it was and see the background [00:20:03] obviously and it's just a fact. Okay, [00:20:06] it's just a fact that this this [00:20:07] happened. He was there. 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Do we have [00:24:06] essentially a cast of characters who are [00:24:10] performing and pretending and this is [00:24:13] what kind of made everybody go crazy [00:24:15] after the Turning Point USA event where [00:24:18] Tucker asked the question, where does [00:24:19] this guy's money come from? I mean, [00:24:20] obviously Barry Weiss is one of these [00:24:23] actors. This is clearly an act. You [00:24:25] obviously are not intelligent. You [00:24:27] obviously are not some journalist that [00:24:30] worked their way up and broke some [00:24:32] important stories. You are obviously an [00:24:34] intelligence op, a not so intelligent [00:24:37] op. Like, are all are we living in the [00:24:39] Truman Show? Are we all going to work [00:24:41] thinking that we can climb a ladder when [00:24:42] in reality these people are just [00:24:43] selected and given certain uh there were [00:24:48] supposed to be certain characters. [00:24:49] You're supposed to pretend like you're a [00:24:51] head of a tech company and you're [00:24:53] supposed to be super weird and quirky. [00:24:55] I'm going to cast you into that role and [00:24:57] then we're going to call you a genius [00:24:59] and you're supposed to pretend that [00:25:01] you're this super financial guru like a [00:25:04] Jeffrey Epstein and we're going to put [00:25:06] you at the head of a finance company. [00:25:09] You know, you have no background in [00:25:10] this. That's kind of the theme that I'm [00:25:12] seeing. Anyways, I don't want to waste [00:25:13] too much more time because I do want to [00:25:16] bring on Mitch who apparently has what I [00:25:20] would describe as I don't know if it's [00:25:22] the best or the worst luck ever in life [00:25:26] stumbling upon the feds when they're [00:25:29] maybe up to no good. Mitch, welcome to [00:25:32] my podcast. It's so great to have you [00:25:34] here. [00:25:35] >> It's wonderful to be here, Candace. How [00:25:37] are you doing? [00:25:38] >> I'm doing very well. I uh I obviously [00:25:40] you know the story of how I instantly [00:25:43] got the email from one of your friends [00:25:45] that just said, "You should call Mitch [00:25:46] after I prayed and said, "I'm missing a [00:25:49] piece of this. Please, God, give me a [00:25:50] piece of the story." And the first email [00:25:52] I see when I get back from church on a [00:25:55] day of holy obligation is this email. [00:25:57] And so Mitch, my audience is up to date [00:25:59] on what happened to you when you were 20 [00:26:03] years old. And I'm wondering if you can [00:26:05] just sort of briefly recap in case I got [00:26:07] some things wrong. [00:26:10] Oh wow. Briefly recap 35 years. Sure. Um [00:26:15] yeah, we uh we were part of a mission [00:26:18] going down to um down to the border JTF6 [00:26:21] assigned from 10th Mountain. Um [00:26:24] previously there had been a Marine Corps [00:26:27] uh unit there. Um apparently they had an [00:26:31] incident. We had to replace them. uh and [00:26:33] they wanted a less less kinetic unit to [00:26:37] um be involved. So we went down there in [00:26:42] a matter of a few days, you know, and I [00:26:44] was the youngest guy on the team. And [00:26:46] for the first few days, I I got assigned [00:26:49] to um have to, you know, do the hard [00:26:52] work of putting in the sensors and [00:26:54] following one of the border patrol who [00:26:56] was on a uh he was on horseback. got to [00:26:59] learn a little bit about um picking up [00:27:01] signs in the desert, stuff like that [00:27:03] while we were placing these sensors [00:27:04] down. Um it took a few days. Um I think [00:27:09] we put in like 80 sensors or so along [00:27:12] the border and [00:27:14] uh we were getting some they thought it [00:27:17] was some glitch signals coming back. Um, [00:27:21] being that I had just gone through the [00:27:22] course, I had the most updated [00:27:24] information and [00:27:26] um, what we realized is they weren't uh, [00:27:29] they weren't glitched signals uh, that [00:27:32] these people were being sent out for. [00:27:34] Um, [00:27:35] it was uh, subterranean. And once [00:27:41] when I got pulled back uh to the JTF6 [00:27:45] headquarters, [00:27:47] they were in discussions of of trying to [00:27:50] remove the army. Um, in case your [00:27:54] viewers don't understand, [00:27:56] when units get put together like this, [00:27:58] especially this mission, um, there's a [00:28:02] lot of contention even to this day [00:28:03] between the army and, uh, Border Patrol [00:28:06] and who gets to take credit, and who [00:28:09] gets to stay, who gets to go. And back [00:28:11] then, um, [00:28:14] Border Patrol, I I think they just [00:28:16] wanted us out of their hair. [00:28:20] Um, so they were having some sort of a [00:28:22] big meeting. Um, and a big do not [00:28:25] disturb meeting and uh I got assigned to [00:28:29] the skeleton crew to sit back on the SMS [00:28:33] uh um excuse me, the receiver. Um, [00:28:38] and I was looking at the data while [00:28:42] [clears throat] the skeleton crew of the [00:28:44] border patrol was left there with me as [00:28:47] well. and he was giving me a bad time [00:28:49] about the army equipment and how they [00:28:52] were being sent out for for no reason [00:28:55] and he kept giving me a bad time about [00:28:58] it. So, uh, we were looking at the data [00:29:00] and we started discussing things and and [00:29:02] I brought up the fact that, you know, [00:29:05] you know, I asked if there was any [00:29:07] subways or something like that around [00:29:08] and between the two of us, the light [00:29:10] bulb went on that um, yeah, it was a [00:29:14] yeah, it was an underground tunnel and [00:29:17] within minutes we could triangulate the [00:29:20] uh, triangulate the signals and be able [00:29:24] to pinpoint the location and that's the [00:29:26] information I got to hand off. So, no, I [00:29:29] didn't, you know, like go on the raid [00:29:31] itself. Um, handing that information off [00:29:34] was was the probable cause they needed [00:29:37] to be able to go get a warrant, go to [00:29:41] the location, um, and also communicate [00:29:44] with the Mexican authorities on the [00:29:47] other side to uh, perform a raid. And, [00:29:50] uh, yeah, that's what that's what [00:29:53] happened. [00:29:55] Now, um, [00:29:56] >> you're thinking, amazing. We have found [00:29:58] the biggest cartel tuttle. Uh, there [00:30:02] there had never been one bigger [00:30:03] previously discovered. I I presume maybe [00:30:05] there had been. I'm And there I don't [00:30:07] know. I'm just I'm going to become a [00:30:09] hero. Maybe you're thinking this is [00:30:10] going to be great. And the exact [00:30:12] opposite thing is true. And it's because [00:30:15] they eventually find pictures of well, [00:30:20] uh, was it an American lieutenant [00:30:21] colonel? Who who exactly? Sorry, you I [00:30:24] know you told me this. Was it a colonel? [00:30:27] >> One of the commanders that was um [00:30:31] with the border patrol um was actually [00:30:34] posed with a photo um that was found on [00:30:37] the Mexican side um after the tunnel [00:30:40] apparently had been built um along with [00:30:43] other Mexican military and and US [00:30:46] military. So there had been some [00:30:48] collaboration uh prior to us getting [00:30:51] there. There had been some a lot of [00:30:53] suspicion that [00:30:56] uh the federal government knew that 80% [00:30:58] I think it was 60 to 80% of the cocaine [00:31:01] was coming through the Douglas, Arizona [00:31:03] area. That's basically region six or [00:31:06] that's why they called it JTF6. [00:31:09] Um [00:31:10] so they knew all the cocaine's coming [00:31:12] through this one area. Um but the local [00:31:15] authorities back then, you know, came up [00:31:17] with shrugs like, you know, oh, we just [00:31:20] don't see where it's coming from. So [00:31:21] they suspected there was some [00:31:25] uh there was some you know compromise of [00:31:28] of officials down there. Um [00:31:32] so yeah we we went to work and and it [00:31:35] didn't take us long to pinpoint this. [00:31:38] Um, so when they recovered that data and [00:31:41] they recovered the photos, obviously u [00:31:44] they had some of the top names of of who [00:31:47] was helping out on the US side to [00:31:50] help build the tunnel and also keep it [00:31:53] functioning for at least 6 months. Uh, [00:31:55] judging by the date on the photo. [00:31:58] >> So I just wanted to ask you your [00:32:01] attachment to because I'm trying to [00:32:02] figure out why you're going to then go [00:32:04] back to Fort Wuka. Is that where you [00:32:05] were initially trained? [00:32:08] Um, yeah, I was. Yeah. [00:32:10] >> Fort. Okay. So, you were initially [00:32:11] trained at Fort Wuka. What then ends up [00:32:14] happening is they put you, you [00:32:15] basically, you're not allowed to talk. [00:32:17] You just get gagged for, is it 25 years [00:32:20] the gag order lasted while they [00:32:22] destroyed every layer of your life, fed [00:32:24] your name to the cartels. You've been on [00:32:26] the run. You've had to change your name. [00:32:28] Your family is now in debt. You've been [00:32:29] fighting lawsuits trying to get um the [00:32:32] government to, I guess, defend you [00:32:34] against the cartel gangs. And clearly [00:32:38] they're angry because you stepped on [00:32:40] their toes. It looks like I think that's [00:32:41] a fair depiction uh of what happened [00:32:43] here which we are learning more and more [00:32:45] how corrupt and our I think the CIA was [00:32:48] created to traffic to be clear. That's [00:32:50] that's my opinion there. But you they [00:32:54] effectively destroyed your life and [00:32:55] gagged you in in the process. Is that a [00:32:57] fair assessment of what happens next? [00:33:02] >> Yeah, it is. Um, I could probably go [00:33:05] into some detail that uh while we were [00:33:07] down there, [00:33:09] you know, I got to uh got the honor of [00:33:11] incinerating all the uh [00:33:14] uh it was about a ton of cocaine. It was [00:33:16] and bunch of guns, bunch of money. Um, [00:33:20] and then right afterward, we went right [00:33:21] back to work and I ended up getting [00:33:24] approached with a friend at uh NOA, [00:33:26] Arizona. Um, not a friend, but another [00:33:29] Border Patrol agent. And if it wasn't [00:33:32] for him, I I was too stupid. I didn't [00:33:34] understand why this person was coming up [00:33:36] or why they had personal information on [00:33:38] me. I I was a young kid. Um it was the [00:33:42] Border Patrol agent that caught what it [00:33:44] was about and um yeah, thank God. Uh he [00:33:49] he knew what to do. Um took me back to [00:33:53] base and they thought it was, you know, [00:33:55] something I did uh to give away my [00:33:57] identity. Uh so I was on base for uh it [00:34:02] was the next day that I got brought into [00:34:04] a briefing and by that time [00:34:07] um the photos from the Mexican side had [00:34:09] made their way to the American side and [00:34:11] they were able to put together how my [00:34:14] information got got fed um to the other [00:34:18] side. As far as cartels and stuff like [00:34:21] that, I you know [00:34:24] it's just plain corruption at this [00:34:26] point. It's it's and it's thick and [00:34:30] yeah, they have followed me. Um there's [00:34:32] been I've had people come through my [00:34:35] windows. Um and it's not like I know [00:34:38] these are [00:34:40] it's like fantastical stories. We got [00:34:42] the court documents. We got the we got [00:34:45] the court cases. Um [00:34:47] >> you've sent them to [00:34:47] >> It's not just that we have those. It [00:34:49] it's that uh the work that was done to [00:34:52] even try to bury those afterward. [00:34:55] Um it's pretty substantial and yeah I've [00:34:58] got 20 years of this and you'd think you [00:35:01] know one would think that u somebody in [00:35:03] the federal government would care um or [00:35:06] in any part of our government would [00:35:08] care. Uh the more I've gone up the chain [00:35:10] to try and u [00:35:14] you know get more of these records as [00:35:16] well as get answers [00:35:20] uh to this saga. Um [00:35:23] it just seems like I step on more and [00:35:25] more toes and eventually that's what led [00:35:28] me to going down to Fort Wuka was just [00:35:30] to get the original records and find out [00:35:33] you know why wasn't the FBI updated as [00:35:36] to what my status was and you know why [00:35:39] has this been allowed to um [00:35:43] yeah basically use our own laws against [00:35:45] me to attack my life. Um [00:35:48] >> I feel [00:35:49] >> I wanted answers. [00:35:51] I I when I hear the story, it makes me [00:35:53] it makes me so angry because it's just [00:35:54] too many people that are serving our [00:35:56] country only to figure out that our [00:35:57] country is serving some other, you know, [00:35:59] the interests of oligarchs truly. And I [00:36:01] think we're kind of all coming to that [00:36:02] moment right now and recognizing that it [00:36:04] hasn't been left or right. It has been [00:36:06] them, the a unique gang of oligarchs and [00:36:09] criminals that are running every aspect [00:36:11] of our lives. And um they would gladly [00:36:13] have you die for them and could they [00:36:15] they couldn't care less. I want to pivot [00:36:18] now. So you you're uh they put you [00:36:20] there's this gag order or you know [00:36:23] non-disclosure agreement and it is 25 [00:36:27] long years and it happens to 35 pardon [00:36:32] me 35 years you're told yeah you can [00:36:35] suffer the cartels can chase you change [00:36:37] your name but you keep your mouth shut [00:36:38] about it and finally in May this of this [00:36:41] year this this uh it expires right this [00:36:45] this gag order expires and you Say to [00:36:48] yourself, I am going to go down to that [00:36:50] base where I was trained. I'm going to [00:36:51] go down to Fort Wuka, book myself into a [00:36:54] hotel. I'm going to go to the criminal [00:36:56] division, investigative division. I'm [00:36:58] going to get that original paperwork and [00:37:00] get some answers to why my I feel that [00:37:03] my life has been effectively ruined for [00:37:05] me having done what I was ordered to do [00:37:07] by the government. [00:37:09] >> So, you get to the base, and I want you [00:37:12] to address this because there were so [00:37:13] many people who were like, "There's no [00:37:14] way you could have gotten on to the [00:37:15] base. Obviously, you sent me your [00:37:16] military cards and I think we can show a [00:37:18] picture of that. You get onto the base [00:37:21] and I want you to walk us through what [00:37:23] time and I did show a timeline, but a [00:37:24] bouch, you know, you don't have to be [00:37:25] perfect here. We already showed a [00:37:27] timeline, but like you get to the base [00:37:29] and just kind of what's your general [00:37:30] mood and this is on September 8th, the [00:37:32] evening of September 8th at the [00:37:34] Candlewood Inn and Suites, which you [00:37:36] have given me all the documentation for. [00:37:40] >> Okay. [00:37:42] Yeah. And um getting into Tucson, there [00:37:45] was a little bit of a issue getting the [00:37:47] rental car and stuff. So that took a [00:37:49] little while, a little bit of a delay, [00:37:50] but we made reservations ahead of time [00:37:53] for me to be there. And um yeah, I get [00:37:57] down to the base. For those that think [00:37:58] that uh people can't get on base, no, [00:38:01] typically you can as long as you have [00:38:02] your your ID, your insurance, and you [00:38:06] have a purpose for being there. Um I [00:38:08] certainly did. Uh, [00:38:10] >> you can show that documentation as he's [00:38:12] speaking. I'm sorry. Go ahead. [00:38:13] >> Yeah. [00:38:15] >> Um, [00:38:17] so yeah, we made made reservations and [00:38:20] uh I got to the hotel. I had uh it was [00:38:23] sort of hard to find, but once I found [00:38:24] it, I sort of recognized it because it [00:38:26] was uh that was actually the barracks [00:38:28] that I had when I was there in AIT [00:38:31] training, but they converted it. So, uh [00:38:33] yeah, that was pretty cool. All of a [00:38:35] sudden, I'm staying in the same [00:38:36] barracks. Um, [00:38:39] really nice place, by the way. Wonderful [00:38:41] beds. Um, [00:38:44] but yeah, I check in and as I'm doing [00:38:46] that, um, you can tell that there's [00:38:49] regular, uh, military people, um, [00:38:54] uh, young kids that are there. Um, [00:38:57] probably just checking into post, stuff [00:38:59] like that. [00:39:00] Uh there were a couple people that that [00:39:02] stood out and they're a little bit older [00:39:05] and and um as I'm checking in, uh one [00:39:09] guy that was sitting on the couch [00:39:13] he just had a sheen to him. Um looked [00:39:16] like he had a professional military [00:39:18] sheen to him. If I had to guess um you [00:39:21] know being a special forces guy [00:39:25] I would have guessed that he's ex [00:39:27] special forces probably doing you know [00:39:29] something down there probably contract [00:39:32] uh he was definitely waiting on [00:39:33] something and [00:39:36] >> age about just so we can get a [00:39:37] description age [00:39:39] >> you know I'd say [00:39:42] 30 33 to 40 about there give or take Um, [00:39:48] you know, I wasn't there to check out [00:39:50] people, um, or check ID cards. Um, I [00:39:54] just happen to know him. And veterans, [00:39:57] especially SF guys, when you notice [00:39:58] somebody like that, I almost had the [00:40:01] impression so much so that I was going [00:40:03] to go up and ask him what group he was [00:40:04] with and say hi and thank him for his [00:40:06] service. I didn't really get that [00:40:08] chance. So, as I'm checking in and then [00:40:10] I go to my room and then come back out, [00:40:13] um he was joined and um [00:40:19] joined by a female that you can you can [00:40:21] definitely tell when um how do you put [00:40:24] it? When people are well off and um [00:40:29] they're dressing down. [00:40:32] Um she was definitely dressing down and [00:40:36] it was um very wellkept. [00:40:41] Uh the one thing I noticed about the [00:40:43] woman that really stuck out to me was [00:40:45] was her eyes and um [00:40:50] I have an ex that um has caused me a lot [00:40:53] of problems. So, uh, when I see someone [00:40:56] with with, uh, striking blue eyes like [00:40:58] that, they stick out. And, um, I even I [00:41:03] was on the phone, uh, with my, [00:41:07] uh, with my wife here, and I even told [00:41:10] her about it. I said, "Oh, gez. Uh, [00:41:12] somebody has those kind of eyes." Um, it [00:41:16] creeped me out a little bit, you know, [00:41:18] and it had nothing to do with that [00:41:20] person. I just, [00:41:22] you know, life is what it is. But as I [00:41:25] was checking in, they um I was going to [00:41:27] go back and actually talk to that [00:41:29] person, the the guy. And um [00:41:34] yeah, they between me at the front desk [00:41:38] and then going back to my room one time [00:41:39] and then coming back out. I was going to [00:41:41] go to dinner. Um yeah, they had gotten [00:41:45] into uh there was a vehicle parked out [00:41:48] front. uh big green truck G it looked [00:41:50] like a real shiny GSA type. Um [00:41:56] and yeah, they were getting into that [00:41:58] vehicle and and driving off. And that [00:42:01] night I went to dinner at some a little [00:42:03] bit crazy. The people in Sierra Vista, [00:42:05] they can probably verify there was a [00:42:08] Mexican oh Mexican sushi place in Sierra [00:42:12] Vista. So, I got dinner and and um it [00:42:16] was a pretty good place actually. Um and [00:42:19] then I came back and went to sleep that [00:42:22] night, [00:42:24] got up early the next morning, wanted to [00:42:26] see the sunrise. Uh reminisce about, [00:42:30] you know, um yeah, there we go. Just [00:42:34] reminisce about having been there a long [00:42:36] time ago. Um [00:42:40] and uh even stopped to talk to some of [00:42:42] the police. They tried to give me [00:42:44] directions to [00:42:46] to CD, but the buildings there are are [00:42:48] uh they're sort of old World War II and [00:42:51] they're also built on top of the [00:42:52] foundations of um like almost Alamo era [00:42:57] uh rocks and stuff and some of them [00:42:59] aren't really well marked. So, um his [00:43:03] direction sort of led me off on a wild [00:43:05] goose chase. [00:43:08] And I'll interject here while you're [00:43:09] having a sip of water that this is when [00:43:11] you accidentally take a video and it's [00:43:14] 18 minutes long while this guy's giving [00:43:16] you directions which you've also you've [00:43:17] sent everything over. So there's no [00:43:19] question you were here and everything [00:43:20] happened because you tried to document [00:43:22] this thinking you were going to get some [00:43:24] justice from the past and and I I will [00:43:26] let you continue telling the story. [00:43:29] >> Yeah, I was there to get help. Um, [00:43:32] and uh, I was really figuring some [00:43:35] people would have a, [00:43:38] you know, have some answers for me. Um, [00:43:42] I couldn't find C, but as I'm wandering [00:43:45] around and I finally decide, you know, I [00:43:47] need to get some coffee and wake up, [00:43:49] maybe have a little breakfast. Um, I [00:43:52] noticed that there's some signs there [00:43:53] that say JTF and uh, and JTF [00:43:57] headquarters. [00:43:59] I went in a couple of the buildings. [00:44:01] There was nobody there yet. So, I [00:44:03] continued on. I went and got coffee. Ran [00:44:05] into some 10th Mountain people there. [00:44:07] Um, they said they were there for JTF. [00:44:10] Um, [00:44:12] you know, we we sort of talked. I bought [00:44:13] them coffee, I think, for their service. [00:44:16] Uh, they sort of I asked where there [00:44:18] would be a headquarters that I could go [00:44:20] to to to speak to someone. They tried to [00:44:23] explain it to me. Um, I forget they gave [00:44:26] me a building name. Uh, and I don't [00:44:28] necessarily want to, we don't want to [00:44:29] disclose that kind of stuff, but [00:44:32] uh, I went right back to the front gate [00:44:35] and as I came in, I as they scanned me [00:44:37] in with my ID card, um, yeah, I asked [00:44:40] the gate guard there where, you know, [00:44:42] where would this building be and how [00:44:45] would I get there? Uh, he gave me [00:44:48] detailed instructions on how to get [00:44:49] there, how to wind around to get to that [00:44:51] building. And so I did. And um it was [00:44:56] obviously a a temporary setup for this [00:44:59] new command down there. Um [00:45:02] there was no gate guard. There was uh I [00:45:05] I think they did have some um [00:45:08] uh barb wire around the the field in the [00:45:11] in the building, which made me hesitate [00:45:14] for a second, but there was a it was a [00:45:16] parking lot. So um I I just went in and [00:45:20] parked. Um, I was on the phone with my [00:45:22] MS here and [00:45:25] uh told her, you know, uh, we'll see how [00:45:27] it goes. We'll see what they say here [00:45:28] and I I'll I'll call you in a few. Um, [00:45:33] I ended up not being able to call it [00:45:35] back for about seven hours. Um, [00:45:38] and you can being in the military for a [00:45:41] while, you [00:45:45] notice when there's a lot of high [00:45:46] ranking people around and you notice um [00:45:48] when there's a little bit of a buzz and [00:45:50] I I walked in there, [00:45:54] I didn't know if it if this was just a [00:45:56] new type of army uh that I haven't seen [00:45:58] for a while. Um, but I walked up to the [00:46:01] front desk. I sort of told him what I [00:46:02] wanted. I initially talked to one [00:46:04] captain for about five minutes um and [00:46:07] then he stepped back out. He was going [00:46:08] to go get someone. I stood there at the [00:46:11] front and as I did um the guy that I [00:46:15] thought was an XSF guy um he had walked [00:46:20] out from uh from wherever it was and he [00:46:23] was sort of walking out to the to the [00:46:25] front doors and he stood there for a [00:46:27] while waiting and then uh three more [00:46:30] people came came around silly dressed [00:46:32] and one he looked like a congressman uh [00:46:36] had the pin, had the flag um you know [00:46:39] congressman suit. Um, and there were a [00:46:43] couple of people next to him and [00:46:45] obviously they were trying to talk to [00:46:46] him and [00:46:48] uh they were sort of ping around. Um, [00:46:52] but it was also sort of serious and um, [00:46:56] uh, some of the military lieutenant [00:46:59] colonels there and the and the unit [00:47:01] sergeant major escorted them out. Um, [00:47:04] they got into one of the GSAs. Um, for [00:47:07] anybody in the military that knows about [00:47:09] GSA, it it's the [00:47:11] >> they own everything in the government. [00:47:14] >> Could you Sorry, for those of us who [00:47:16] don't know about this GSA, just to to [00:47:19] break it down for us, I'm sorry to be so [00:47:20] ignorant. What does that stand for? [00:47:22] >> No. Uh, what was it? Government services [00:47:27] uh administration or [00:47:28] >> Okay, [00:47:29] >> I forget what it is. [00:47:30] >> No worries. Um what they they basically [00:47:34] maintain all the property for the U for [00:47:36] the federal government. [00:47:37] >> Okay. [00:47:37] >> Um [00:47:39] so if you're in the military or if [00:47:42] you're in federal government and you [00:47:45] need a vehicle, [00:47:47] uh basically you you go to one of the [00:47:50] GSA places and it's like renting a [00:47:52] vehicle at at Enterprise or something, [00:47:54] but you have orders attached to it. Um, [00:48:00] some of those vehicles there, they're [00:48:02] reserved. Uh, at any GSA where they have [00:48:04] VIPs that come in, [00:48:08] for those in the know, they they keep a [00:48:09] reserve um set of vehicles and they're [00:48:14] extra shiny. They're they're like new [00:48:16] off the lot. Um, [00:48:19] you know, their tires aren't worn very [00:48:20] well. So, [00:48:23] uh, they all got into one of those [00:48:25] vehicles and they they left. The [00:48:27] sergeant major came back in. Him and I [00:48:29] was I was teasing him about his tabs and [00:48:31] how he didn't have his long tab and uh I [00:48:34] think he had a Ranger tab and airborne [00:48:36] or no, he didn't have airborne, he had [00:48:38] airs assault. Anyway, uh I was teasing [00:48:41] him about some of that. Um was supposed [00:48:44] to go back and talk to him. I was [00:48:45] finishing signing in when um yeah, a [00:48:48] couple more captains came around the [00:48:49] corners and they escorted me way out. Um [00:48:53] they wanted to take me out of the [00:48:54] building. I thought I was getting [00:48:55] arrested and I didn't know what I had [00:48:57] done wrong. [00:48:59] Uh [00:49:03] yeah, I'd given my name, uh the missions [00:49:06] I had been attached to. Um [00:49:10] I given the purpose why I was there. Uh, [00:49:14] so and I was very polite about I was [00:49:16] trying to be discreet as possible [00:49:19] and um I had no idea what I was walking [00:49:21] into. Obviously, [00:49:24] you know, when congressmen are around, [00:49:25] there's something special going on. [00:49:28] Uh, but yeah, they escorted me out [00:49:30] across the parking lot to the park [00:49:32] benches there and uh me, one of the [00:49:35] captains there, his name was Captain [00:49:37] Nef. Um, nice guy. [00:49:40] Um, [00:49:42] yeah. And I I started telling him my [00:49:44] story, what I'm telling you, and and [00:49:46] what I was there for. Yes, that's the [00:49:48] guy. Um, real decent gentleman. [00:49:52] Um, [00:49:55] and as we sat there, the other captain [00:49:57] went in uh was going to get the Sergeant [00:49:59] Major, and [00:50:01] uh I don't know what exactly what [00:50:03] happened, but uh before long, there was [00:50:07] bunch of cruisers pulling up. There were [00:50:09] police officers from different levels of [00:50:10] the government. Um, I couldn't tell you [00:50:13] all the different types of of um, law [00:50:16] enforcement that were there uh, [00:50:18] surrounding me and sort of putting up a [00:50:21] wall between me and and the front door. [00:50:24] Um, I did catch that there was yet [00:50:26] another I don't know if it was the same [00:50:28] GSA vehicle returning or a different [00:50:31] one, but that did pull up to the [00:50:34] building. Uh, I couldn't see who got in [00:50:36] it. And um [00:50:39] it ended up sort of a big deal. They [00:50:41] kept interrogating me uh trying to [00:50:43] gaslight me, ask me if I what I was [00:50:46] there for, like I was some sort of a [00:50:48] spy. Um I Yeah. And then they mentioned [00:50:52] a bomb threat. They wanted to check my [00:50:55] vehicle. [00:50:56] Uh mentioned that because I was in [00:50:58] special forces, uh obviously I must be [00:51:02] some sort of a bomb threat. And for me, [00:51:04] I I just figured [00:51:07] uh this had to be some sort of the false [00:51:09] flagging that uh that I've encountered [00:51:11] from before. Um [00:51:15] some sort of residual effect from that. [00:51:18] So you're just thinking, you know, this [00:51:19] has got something to do. This has been [00:51:20] 35 years running. The government's [00:51:22] corrupt. It's all about me fighting this [00:51:24] cartel tunnel and this is just going to [00:51:26] be the story of my life never getting [00:51:27] any justice. That's what's going through [00:51:29] your mind. [00:51:30] >> Yeah. At this point, yeah, people, you [00:51:32] know, people in the government start [00:51:34] pointing guns at me. my house been [00:51:36] squatting and stuff like that. I I just [00:51:38] rolled my eyes. Um I literally [00:51:41] [sighs and gasps] [00:51:42] >> Sorry. [00:51:44] >> I was just throwing my car keys out. [00:51:45] They wanted my car keys. I I chucked it [00:51:48] over and said, "Yeah, if you don't mind, [00:51:49] park it closer cuz my bones are getting [00:51:51] old and it hurts. [00:51:52] >> I don't want to walk that far." Um [00:51:54] >> so sad. [00:51:55] >> So, Captain Nef was really nice. And um [00:51:59] I asked him what this was about. He he [00:52:01] tried to shrug it off and say he didn't [00:52:03] know. There was another lady that seemed [00:52:05] to be uh conducting the [00:52:09] what this overreaction was. Um [00:52:13] and she was defin you know she was in [00:52:14] plain clothes undercover big sunglasses [00:52:18] Hispanic woman. [00:52:20] Um [00:52:23] but you know if I had to guess probably [00:52:25] secret service or something like that. [00:52:27] Uh she didn't want to approach me [00:52:29] directly. She was she was directing how [00:52:32] other people would approach me and ask [00:52:34] me questions, get my documents, stuff [00:52:36] like that. Uh eventually they said, [00:52:40] "Okay, we're going to take you to [00:52:41] another location." They took me to uh [00:52:43] they finally showed me where the C [00:52:45] building was, I guess. Um put me in [00:52:48] there and they recorded me for a while. [00:52:51] um asked me a few questions and were [00:52:54] they were very [00:52:58] very concerned about the next 24 hours [00:53:00] like they wanted [00:53:03] they wanted to make sure I don't know [00:53:05] maybe that I wasn't there for some other [00:53:07] purpose or related to something. [00:53:10] Um it was [00:53:13] it was pretty odd. Um they didn't answer [00:53:16] any of the questions I was there for. Uh [00:53:20] they didn't give me the documentation [00:53:21] they wanted. They did give me a report [00:53:22] number to go ahead and you you went [00:53:24] ahead and I gave that to you. [00:53:26] >> You did. [00:53:27] >> Uh we'll see what that says. But um [00:53:30] yeah, they were looking for any excuse [00:53:32] to try and um [00:53:37] hold me up for like 24 hours. And that [00:53:41] 24-hour number kept getting repeated u [00:53:44] by them. And then eventually they didn't [00:53:47] have anything to hold me. I wasn't a [00:53:48] harm to myself or others. I wasn't there [00:53:51] to, you know, spy on anybody. Um, I [00:53:55] really just wanted to get records and [00:53:56] and get out of that desert. [00:53:59] Um, [00:54:01] as reminiscent as it was, the place [00:54:03] creeps me out a little bit. So, [00:54:08] uh, yeah, once they said you have to [00:54:10] stay off base for 24 hours, I was, [00:54:13] "Don't worry about it. I ain't coming [00:54:14] back." [00:54:16] Um got to Tucson, stayed the night there [00:54:19] in a hotel. Um never got a refund on my [00:54:22] Candlewood Suites. Uh but um [00:54:30] yeah, got on the plane and um [00:54:34] before we touched down, I had a stop off [00:54:37] in Salt Lake City. By the time we [00:54:39] wheeled down that, you know, we got the [00:54:41] news about Charlie Kirk. Um, [00:54:45] and of course that's been just all over [00:54:47] the [00:54:49] all over the um all over the news. [00:54:52] Everybody's watching it. And um [00:54:57] you know I I don't think anybody's [00:54:58] believing what the federal government's [00:55:01] saying about it for sure. But [00:55:03] uh what I noticed [00:55:06] um I don't know these people from TP [00:55:08] USA. [00:55:10] um never been associated. [00:55:12] I could recognize Charlie Kirk probably, [00:55:17] but um what I started seeing come across [00:55:20] and got more familiar once I saw a [00:55:23] picture of somebody in a ponytail with [00:55:25] those eyes, [00:55:28] that was that person. They were there. [00:55:31] And um [00:55:34] yeah, the head of security there, he was [00:55:37] one of the people walking out with the [00:55:39] congressman. [00:55:41] Now, [00:55:44] how would I know that? I I just I just [00:55:46] have a gift for recognizing people. And [00:55:51] yeah, maybe it's not him. Maybe as [00:55:53] doppelganger, [00:55:55] but somebody with the same mannerisms, [00:55:58] the same crick in his neck, face, waxy [00:56:02] look on his face, [00:56:04] hand gestures, uh, shoulder shrug, gate, [00:56:08] approximate height, haircut [00:56:11] definitely walked past me. Um, [00:56:15] and [00:56:16] >> you had to put it at a percentage that [00:56:18] you were looking at Brian Harpole. Maybe [00:56:20] he's got a brother in the military. Who [00:56:22] knows, right? Maybe he does have a [00:56:23] doppelganger. He's got a twin brother. [00:56:24] Who knows? And I want to be clear, I can [00:56:28] confirm on this podcast live every step [00:56:31] of your story in terms of where you [00:56:33] went, what time you were there. Um that [00:56:35] there was this big meeting that [00:56:36] happened. I confirmed a location with [00:56:38] other people that are that are on uh [00:56:40] Fort Wuka currently. I can confirm [00:56:42] everything with metadata. Um I obviously [00:56:45] can't confirm that you saw who you say [00:56:47] you saw. If you had to put it at a [00:56:49] percentage that you saw Brian Harpole, [00:56:53] what percentage would you put it at? [00:56:55] >> 95. [00:56:56] >> 95%. Okay. [00:56:57] >> 95 to 99. I [00:57:02] when I saw him, you know, on the [00:57:04] interview with the with his face and [00:57:07] gestures, um I Yeah. with that photo, [00:57:14] it struck me in my gut. [00:57:17] Um, [00:57:19] I blew it off [00:57:22] until there was, [00:57:25] you know, some other pictures that came [00:57:27] up with other people. Um, [00:57:29] >> what other people? Other pictures. [00:57:34] >> Uh, if you want me to say it, [00:57:37] there's a picture of Erica Kirk with a [00:57:39] ponytail and um from from her past. [00:57:45] That person matches who I saw at Fort [00:57:48] Wuka in the lobby the night before and [00:57:51] she was with that with that man in the [00:57:53] lobby and that man he was present at [00:57:56] that meeting [00:57:59] uh the next morning. [00:58:00] >> So [00:58:00] >> if you had to put it at a percentage [00:58:04] that you saw that the girl in the [00:58:07] ponytail matches the description of [00:58:09] Erica Kirk, what percentage would you [00:58:11] put that at? Those are really rare eyes. [00:58:16] Um, [00:58:18] that's 95 to 99%. I I [00:58:24] I can't imagine somebody else. [00:58:27] Okay. So, what I'm going to say because [00:58:30] obviously this that's very explosive and [00:58:32] it's it's one of the reasons why I [00:58:33] wanted I wasn't sure if I wanted to have [00:58:35] you on. And I'm going to be honest with [00:58:36] you because I [00:58:39] gosh I mean I guess I'll tell you the [00:58:40] conflict that I had and just be just as [00:58:43] honest with you as as you are being with [00:58:45] me. The first thing was I can't confirm [00:58:47] it, right? I can confirm where you were. [00:58:49] I can do all of that and but I I can't [00:58:51] confirm what you what you think you saw. [00:58:52] I don't know you. Um I don't know there [00:58:55] are people like my husband who we can [00:58:56] see someone once and he recognizes that [00:58:58] person 10 years later exactly where we [00:58:59] saw them and there are people like me [00:59:00] and I kind of have facial blindness [00:59:02] until I meet someone three times. The [00:59:04] second thing was I didn't want people to [00:59:06] wrongly extrapolate things and say, [00:59:09] "Okay, well, maybe she was on the base. [00:59:12] Maybe she w there's a chance she wasn't [00:59:13] on the base, right? That she has a [00:59:15] doppelganger. People do have [00:59:16] doppelgangers. I have doppelgangers, [00:59:18] right?" Um, but let's say she wasn't the [00:59:20] base. Let's say you're right and you saw [00:59:22] her. This is the night before. This is [00:59:24] on the ETH. Maybe she was in the hotel, [00:59:27] >> but maybe she was there for a different [00:59:28] reason. Maybe she was there because [00:59:30] she's always been open about the fact [00:59:31] that her mother moved to Arizona because [00:59:33] she got involved with the military. So [00:59:35] that could be totally unrelated to the [00:59:37] meeting that took place on the 9th and I [00:59:40] didn't want to. But then I I I said to [00:59:43] myself, I am this man has lived through [00:59:45] so much. You know what I mean? This man [00:59:47] has lived through so much and I would be [00:59:50] turning my back on this really a hero [00:59:54] discovering the cartels who's lived [00:59:55] through so much and has been treated [00:59:57] like the government. And then I I [00:59:58] struggled with my own soul going, I'm [01:00:00] turning my my back on him because I'm [01:00:02] afraid of backlash for allowing him to [01:00:07] tell the truth. And so and and my soul [01:00:10] was in conflict. And I decided that you [01:00:13] know what, I am not this is not my [01:00:15] platform. Okay? I I genuinely believe [01:00:17] this is God's platform. I am a conduit. [01:00:19] I don't know why I have a platform. And [01:00:21] I don't know why you have this luck in [01:00:23] life. I really don't. I don't know why [01:00:25] these things happened to you or why they [01:00:27] happened to me, but I know that my my [01:00:29] prayer was very intentional that night [01:00:31] uh that I received that email. So, I'm [01:00:35] going to allow the internet to hear your [01:00:37] testimony, hear what you think. And I [01:00:40] also want to show them a picture because [01:00:41] we did look through some congressmen and [01:00:43] I didn't tell you where they were [01:00:44] congressman from, but there is one that [01:00:45] you thought looked familiar. Uh and I am [01:00:48] going to show that picture of him now. [01:00:50] Uh, this is and Skyler, someone's got to [01:00:53] get in my air because I'm blanking on [01:00:54] his name. Mark, [01:00:57] is that right? Mark from Las Vegas. And [01:01:01] you thought that this could potentially [01:01:03] be the congressman that you saw on the [01:01:05] ninth. [01:01:05] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [01:01:09] >> That's the one that walked closest to [01:01:10] you. [01:01:11] >> That's 95. I'm absolutely, you know, [01:01:13] after I've looked at it, um, that's [01:01:16] Yeah, that was definitely the guy. [01:01:18] >> Okay. [01:01:19] Now, we have then been able to look at [01:01:22] flights and look at who could have been [01:01:25] at that meeting. We were able to confirm [01:01:27] based on a call sign that there was [01:01:29] somebody heavy duty that was at Fort [01:01:31] Wuka Air uh Fort Wuka, pardon on that [01:01:36] morning who uh made sure to turn off [01:01:39] their transponder. So we are the clues [01:01:41] the picture is coming together that you [01:01:43] saw what you saw then that call sign did [01:01:46] change at a certain time which lets us [01:01:47] know that then it could have been moved [01:01:49] to a congressman. There could be a [01:01:51] chance that that person they were [01:01:53] blocking you from seeing when they all [01:01:54] lined up might have been someone that is [01:01:58] it could be Cash Patel. I mean I have it [01:02:00] could be Cash Patel. That's someone who [01:02:01] could have a call sign running ideas. It [01:02:02] could also not be him. Uh and I I want [01:02:05] to be clear. I do think you saw I think [01:02:07] I think that is the reason they [01:02:08] surrounded you was to make sure you [01:02:09] couldn't see who was walking out. I [01:02:11] think your instincts are right on that [01:02:12] and [01:02:15] I don't know what to say other than I [01:02:17] know what you are going to go through [01:02:19] now and I want you to know that you have [01:02:22] an ally with me and I know how much you [01:02:25] are already going through fighting them [01:02:27] and I intend to help you raise money uh [01:02:30] to go through these lawsuits with the [01:02:31] federal government. I know this is not [01:02:33] easy. I know what your kid has been [01:02:34] through. I know what your wife has been [01:02:35] through and no one should have to be [01:02:36] through this, have to go through this [01:02:37] because they told the truth and [01:02:40] potentially stumbled upon something [01:02:41] corrupt, did definitively uh stumble [01:02:44] upon something corrupt. And I think the [01:02:46] public will be with you because they see [01:02:49] what I'm going through right now uh [01:02:51] being sued by a transatlantic [01:02:54] president overseas for just trying to [01:02:56] tell the truth. And um I just want you [01:02:58] to know that like I know that this is [01:03:00] hard for you and given everything you've [01:03:01] been through, but like I am here with [01:03:04] you. I'm going to to fund raise money [01:03:06] for you and I'm here for you and your [01:03:08] family through whatever comes next. [01:03:11] >> Oh boy, that's really wonderful. I I um [01:03:15] and I've told you thank you. [01:03:18] I'd like to see justice. I'd like to see [01:03:20] our [01:03:22] I'd like to see our government being [01:03:24] honest again or some some level. [01:03:30] I don't know [sighs and gasps] [01:03:32] why I was there or why I got to see what [01:03:34] I did or or how I happened to walk in on [01:03:37] something. I wasn't there to, [01:03:39] you know, obviously I didn't know what [01:03:41] was going to happen the next 24 hours. [01:03:43] It seems coincidental that that was the [01:03:46] number they kept bringing up and [01:03:48] whatever they were doing, it was [01:03:51] important and they didn't want any [01:03:52] anybody looking at it. And okay, the [01:03:55] military does that stuff. That's that's [01:03:57] what they do. I [01:04:03] thank you, you know, for everything, but [01:04:06] really [01:04:07] after hearing some of the other stuff, [01:04:10] hearing about some of the threats [01:04:12] against you and I and I do I watch some [01:04:14] of the other podcasters, Valhalla, um [01:04:16] really good guy, even if he he gave me a [01:04:18] bunch of [01:04:20] bunch of crap about stuff. Um fellow [01:04:23] brother there from First Group. Um, [01:04:27] no, he he had uh [01:04:30] when he interviewed the French Foreign [01:04:32] Legion, he and he got to learn a little [01:04:34] bit about sometimes how in the [01:04:36] intelligence world how things cross over [01:04:39] and other countries are a little bit [01:04:41] dirtier and they borrow resources from [01:04:43] us. Um, for Wuka is one of those places [01:04:46] they would have to have done that. [01:04:50] And when I I had I had to pray myself [01:04:55] and be on I I tried to I just wanted to [01:04:58] give [01:05:00] I just wanted to give you a tip. [01:05:02] [sighs and gasps] [01:05:03] Uh since you're pulling on these threads [01:05:05] and I had no idea that you were going to [01:05:06] do all this. Uh-huh. [01:05:10] >> I want you to know there there were [01:05:11] there were literally [01:05:13] >> 51,000 [01:05:15] emails unanswered in that box [01:05:19] >> and I went to church and I prayed and I [01:05:23] said, "Give me something." And I it was [01:05:25] it was the first email just like I said [01:05:26] to you. I mean I what did I call four [01:05:28] minutes after the email was sent and it [01:05:30] was actually me. I didn't send it to [01:05:32] like my producer. I was just like, "Hey, [01:05:34] maybe maybe this is it." And I I can't [01:05:36] help but to see God in in that. And and [01:05:39] not, you know, God as in people being [01:05:41] trained in intelligence to make us think [01:05:44] that everything is holy, but rather [01:05:46] truly I saw God in that. And um yeah, [01:05:48] just it just it's it's stunning. It's [01:05:50] it's hard not to see God in something [01:05:51] like that happening in that order. So um [01:05:55] I don't know what comes next, but I just [01:05:56] want you to know that like you have an [01:05:57] ally in me and I I will I'm a I hope you [01:05:59] see that I am a fighter and when I see [01:06:01] good people and bad things happen to [01:06:02] them, I will fight. And same for the [01:06:04] people that watch this podcast. They are [01:06:06] they are they are fighters as well. So, [01:06:08] and they've had my back and they will [01:06:09] have your back. I promise you that. [01:06:12] >> I really appreciate that. There are a [01:06:13] lot of people in the military who um we [01:06:17] see things. I'm sure there's people down [01:06:18] at Fort Wuka and other places that have [01:06:20] seen things and and um there's a lot of [01:06:24] people that stay quiet to stay nice to [01:06:26] to you know um not be in conflict. and [01:06:32] I had to pray. [01:06:35] Um, this doesn't help [01:06:38] this doesn't help my situation at all. [01:06:40] It's going to aggravate it. I'm [01:06:42] absolutely sure. And, um, [01:06:45] but the truth matters. And, um, [01:06:49] that's why we wanted to send this up to [01:06:50] you. We had no idea all of a sudden [01:06:52] you'd be calling us. [01:06:55] U, that was [01:06:58] You really interrupted our gym time, by [01:07:00] the way. and we really need it. Um, [01:07:04] typically I try to laugh things off [01:07:06] quite a bit, but things are getting [01:07:08] quite serious and uh, I think Baron [01:07:11] Coleman, he gets it. Um, [01:07:17] keep pulling those threads [01:07:20] >> and I hope stay safe [01:07:22] >> and same to you. And, um, like I said, I [01:07:24] I'm going to put together a fundraiser [01:07:25] for you um, you know, imminently. So, [01:07:28] and this is obviously it's just the [01:07:29] first conversation we're having. Uh, I [01:07:32] just want to thank you from the bottom [01:07:33] of my heart, not not just for for [01:07:34] sharing what happened, and I do believe [01:07:36] you are missing piece of this. I also [01:07:38] want to thank you for your service. I [01:07:41] want to thank you for trying to do what [01:07:42] our government should be doing, which is [01:07:44] stopping the cartels and not partnering [01:07:45] with them. And so, just to thank you for [01:07:48] your military service and all that [01:07:50] you've gone through. [01:07:52] >> Thank you, Miss H. Thank you, Candace. [01:07:54] >> Thank you. [01:07:55] >> We will say thank you also. [01:07:58] >> [laughter] [01:07:58] >> Thank you guys. [01:07:59] >> We will be [clears throat] right back [01:08:00] you guys. 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He they they've [01:10:25] endured hell. They've endured hell and [01:10:27] he's been enduring that hell because he [01:10:28] did his job. It sickens me. Our [01:10:31] government sickens me. people telling me [01:10:33] that I need to worry about midterms when [01:10:35] there's just so much corruption that is [01:10:37] happening um and good men that are being [01:10:39] persecuted while bad men are being [01:10:41] protected. Uh so I wanted to just [01:10:44] basically say that you if you look on my [01:10:45] socials I'll make sure that I get a uh [01:10:49] fundraiser out for Mitch and his family [01:10:51] and hopefully we can help them with some [01:10:52] of the legal costs that they have [01:10:54] endured. [01:10:55] Curbster writes, "We stand behind you, [01:10:58] Mitch, and your family just as much as [01:11:00] we stand behind Oh, we stand behind you, [01:11:02] Mitch, and your family just as much as [01:11:03] we stand behind Candace. Thank you for [01:11:05] your service and continued bravery and [01:11:07] resolve despite our government not doing [01:11:09] the same for you. May God continue to [01:11:11] protect you and use you to reveal the [01:11:13] truth." That's very I'm sure that's [01:11:16] going to make them cry. I know that they [01:11:17] were in tears from all the messages of [01:11:19] support that they got uh the first time [01:11:21] around when I when I just shared their [01:11:22] story. Meline writes, "Thank you, [01:11:24] Candace, for keeping me sane these last [01:11:26] hundred or so days. I still cannot [01:11:27] believe that Charlie is not among us, [01:11:29] but um thank you for trying to find who [01:11:31] really did this to him and for helping [01:11:32] us all get through it. Like I said, this [01:11:34] feels like the like there's nothing more [01:11:37] important than getting to the bottom of [01:11:39] this because the implications are so far [01:11:40] reaching. And for me, it is I I I just [01:11:44] have I don't care about politics [01:11:45] anymore. I just don't care. Uh and I do [01:11:48] believe that our government was involved [01:11:50] in this. our government is involved in [01:11:51] the cover the cover up and the people [01:11:54] that would have to okay that would be [01:11:56] the very people that Charlie fought for [01:12:00] uh he fought for them to get into office [01:12:02] sleepless nights fighting for those [01:12:03] people to be in office and so like I [01:12:06] said over and over again I don't care [01:12:07] about your midterms I just don't care [01:12:08] about your midterms I want to know who [01:12:09] killed Charlie Kirk and I want to know [01:12:11] why I want to know why he had to die [01:12:13] Martin Box writes thank you for being my [01:12:16] compass throughout the last few months [01:12:17] and helping me to gauge right from wrong [01:12:18] Christ is king indeed Indeed, Christ is [01:12:20] king. Bitsy Figarino writes, "I [01:12:22] recognize the psychological religious [01:12:24] operation going on since Trump was [01:12:26] elected. It's been wild to watch. Christ [01:12:28] called us to be peacemakers. I would [01:12:29] like to help with pre-born. I'm in [01:12:31] Arizona and I'm also an ultrasound tech. [01:12:33] They know they will know us by our love. [01:12:35] Please reach out to Preborn. They do [01:12:37] fantastic work and you are right to [01:12:39] recognize that." They were also [01:12:40] gaslighting us about that. And I'm I was [01:12:43] saying like there are so many of these [01:12:44] people that have [01:12:46] very high up military and military uh [01:12:49] military connections who are have these [01:12:52] platforms and all they do is they focus [01:12:53] on the Bible and I'm telling you there's [01:12:55] something wrong. There's just something [01:12:57] that is wrong. And you can kind of see [01:12:59] the mask slip now because these people [01:13:01] purport to care about what happened to [01:13:03] Charlie and the easiest thing is to [01:13:05] demand truth and instead they're [01:13:06] protecting people like Josh Hammer. This [01:13:08] is like such an obviously bad person. he [01:13:10] lied and they'll go out of their way to [01:13:12] protect those individuals. That's a [01:13:14] psychological operation. That's not the [01:13:15] truth. And it's actually in many ways [01:13:18] the most sadistic of all psychoper [01:13:20] psychological operations because what [01:13:22] they're doing is they are asserting [01:13:23] themselves as the we are the most [01:13:27] literate in scripture. So we can tell [01:13:28] you whether or not your soul is going to [01:13:30] be condemned uh if you listen to this [01:13:32] person or or you don't listen to this [01:13:34] person. It it is uh it makes me sick. [01:13:37] Like I said, I hold the most contempt [01:13:39] for those that hold up the Bible as they [01:13:42] criticize people knowing fully well that [01:13:45] they could care less about what's in the [01:13:46] Bible and they just want to take swipes [01:13:48] and attack somebody and feel justified [01:13:50] in doing it. It's so it's so arrogant. [01:13:53] Uh and it's I think it's also [01:13:54] tremendously evil because there are [01:13:56] people that follow you and they are true [01:13:57] Christians. [01:13:59] Namarie Valamar writes, "Those who have [01:14:01] been watching every single episode would [01:14:03] not abandon ship. Do not lose hope, but [01:14:05] place your trust in Christ alone. The [01:14:07] Holy Spirit will bring discernment. That [01:14:08] is true. And I think that's what this [01:14:10] has been the story of. We all have [01:14:12] spiritual discernment. Right? We are [01:14:14] feeling things on a spiritual level. And [01:14:16] we are having people that think they can [01:14:18] replace our spirit with garbage and just [01:14:20] like, well, enough of us will say this [01:14:22] and then it will be true. We'll just [01:14:23] keep saying Tyler Robinson. We'll just [01:14:24] keep saying the evidence is overwhelming [01:14:25] and we'll somehow hijack the spirit. And [01:14:27] and this time we're saying no. Ivan [01:14:30] writes, "The more haters, the more we [01:14:32] know that you are on on track. Go Max [01:14:34] Candace. Again guys, I'm going to jump [01:14:36] off because we are over time here, but [01:14:39] uh you will be hearing more from me on [01:14:40] my socials. I will put up a g send go [01:14:43] for Mitch and his family. Uh we will [01:14:45] obviously be giving in a big capacity [01:14:46] and I hope that you guys will join me in [01:14:48] doing that. We'll see you guys tomorrow.
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