Senator Hawley Questions MN State Senator Who Shares Protests Are 'HIGHLY ORGANIZED AND COORDINATED'
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[00:00:00] Let me just start with you, Senator
[00:00:01] Corin, if I could. I'm sure you're
[00:00:03] familiar with the recent anti-ICE
[00:00:06] protests in Minnesota. Let me just ask
[00:00:08] you this. From your vantage point in the
[00:00:10] state, are the majority of these
[00:00:13] protests spontaneous or more organized?
[00:00:16] What is your impression? You're there.
[00:00:20] >> Sorry. Sorry, Mr. Chair. They're highly
[00:00:22] organized and coordinated.
[00:00:24] >> What what what evidence of that? what uh
[00:00:27] what what data what signs have you
[00:00:29] observed that would indicate some level
[00:00:31] of coordination?
[00:00:32] >> Well, you've seen in Minnesota, we've
[00:00:34] seen a wide variety of uh coordinated
[00:00:36] efforts. The the agitation groups on the
[00:00:38] ground, there are a wide variety of
[00:00:39] them. Uh some national, some very
[00:00:41] professional. Um in addition to um local
[00:00:45] reports that state they've trained some
[00:00:47] 30,000 observers to get in and and uh
[00:00:51] get in the middle of the uh protests.
[00:00:53] Now, what what are the how would you
[00:00:55] describe the tactics that are used
[00:00:56] during these protests that you've
[00:00:59] observed? Peaceful, aggressive, um
[00:01:03] inciting violence, trying to draw a
[00:01:05] reaction. I mean, what again, you're on
[00:01:06] the ground, so you tell us.
[00:01:07] >> Yeah. What what we've seen is a whole
[00:01:09] host of doxing, highly coordinated
[00:01:12] efforts in doxing. We've seen instance
[00:01:14] of violence against federal agents. I
[00:01:16] think in two cases we've had um agents
[00:01:19] that have had one had their finger
[00:01:21] bitten off and they've been pelted with
[00:01:23] frozen bottles, stones, and every other
[00:01:26] uh type of thing in addition to directly
[00:01:28] interfering um with legal law
[00:01:30] enforcement.
[00:01:31] >> Let me ask you this. Have you seen any
[00:01:33] evidence that state officials
[00:01:35] are cooperating or coordinating with
[00:01:38] these efforts in any manner? Yes, we've
[00:01:40] seen there are there are variety of uh
[00:01:42] state officials, elected officials uh
[00:01:44] that represent the Minneapolis area that
[00:01:47] have gotten involved. Some are on the uh
[00:01:49] chat box, the chats uh out there. The um
[00:01:54] uh we've got one one representative very
[00:01:57] proud uh Brad Tabkkey uh is a
[00:02:00] representative out there proud making
[00:02:01] sure to help train and coordinate those
[00:02:03] efforts.
[00:02:04] >> Um Mr. Can I just turn to you? Senator
[00:02:07] Corin has said that he has seen
[00:02:09] coordinated efforts within his state to
[00:02:11] disrupt ICE uh including lookout signal
[00:02:15] chats etc. Your organization specializes
[00:02:18] in following nonprofit funding and
[00:02:20] organizational networks. So based on
[00:02:22] your research, what organizations have
[00:02:25] been active on the ground in Minnesota?
[00:02:27] What can you tell us?
[00:02:28] >> Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[00:02:30] Uh yes, we have tracked over $60 million
[00:02:34] according to the latest 990 disclosures
[00:02:37] to approximately 14 groups. Some of them
[00:02:39] national, others on the ground. Groups
[00:02:41] like the ACLU provide the legal defense
[00:02:44] uh as well as facilitate the trainings
[00:02:46] for some of the tactics that Senator
[00:02:48] Corin Corin just described. A group
[00:02:51] named Democracy Forward. Uh, take Action
[00:02:54] Minnesota has gotten over $10 million
[00:02:56] from these large NGO networks, uh,
[00:02:58] including the Neville Roy Singum
[00:03:00] Network, uh, Indivisible, National
[00:03:03] Lawyers Guild, uh, CTUL, the Council on
[00:03:06] American Islamic Relations Minnesota,
[00:03:08] CARE, uh, Minnesota 350, Voices for
[00:03:12] Racial Justice, on and on. Like I said,
[00:03:14] over $60 million just according to the
[00:03:16] latest 990 disclosures.
[00:03:18] >> $60 million, 14, at least 14 different
[00:03:21] groups. uh that sounds like a pretty
[00:03:23] broad ecosystem here. Where's this money
[00:03:24] coming from? I mean, how how is it
[00:03:26] flowing to these groups? Do you have any
[00:03:27] sense? So we've built a database that
[00:03:30] contains uh hundreds of thousands of
[00:03:32] rows from grants from networks like the
[00:03:34] Soros network, the Arabella funding
[00:03:36] network, uh as mentioned the Neville Roy
[00:03:38] Singum funding network, many others,
[00:03:41] tides, uh the Ford Foundation network,
[00:03:43] the Rockefeller funding network, these
[00:03:44] massive NOS's that have billions of
[00:03:47] dollars to spend on all kinds of
[00:03:49] coordinated protest or in this case riot
[00:03:51] activity. give us a sense if you could
[00:03:54] of how this money flows to the ground
[00:03:58] level. You know, how does it get from
[00:03:59] these various donors and and come down
[00:04:01] to ground level and start funding
[00:04:03] protests and and other violent activity?
[00:04:05] >> It comes in the form of a check, a six-f
[00:04:07] figure check uh you know that'll come uh
[00:04:10] from whether it's the Open Society or
[00:04:12] the Tithes groups, the Singum groups.
[00:04:14] They'll fund directly some of these on
[00:04:16] the ground organizations. And we've seen
[00:04:18] this uh happen time and again it's not
[00:04:19] just in Minnesota. So, the money I think
[00:04:22] we've got a chart perhaps the money gets
[00:04:24] moved around. You just referenced a
[00:04:26] number of these groups. Arabella
[00:04:28] advisors, the tides groups. These are
[00:04:30] left-wing dark money groups. So, you've
[00:04:32] got this incredible I mean, just look at
[00:04:34] the number of of of different entities
[00:04:36] on this one chart. All of this money
[00:04:38] moving through all of these different
[00:04:39] groups. Many of them again non-disclosed
[00:04:42] donors, right? So, we we don't know
[00:04:43] exactly where the donors ultimately come
[00:04:45] from. Often times, the entity that gets
[00:04:47] the money doesn't have to report where
[00:04:49] they get the money. So it's it's washed
[00:04:51] through multiple times and what you're
[00:04:53] saying is your research has found
[00:04:54] multiple different left-wing groups that
[00:04:56] are funding these protests on the ground
[00:04:58] in Minnesota. Is that a fair statement?
[00:05:00] >> Yeah, that's that's absolutely fair. And
[00:05:02] uh the foreign money is probably the
[00:05:03] most concerning whether it's from
[00:05:04] Neville Roy Singum or the Swiss
[00:05:06] billionaire Hans York.
[00:05:08] >> Okay, talk about that. Talk about the
[00:05:09] foreign money because you've mentioned
[00:05:10] Singum now a couple of times. There was
[00:05:12] a New York Post article not long ago
[00:05:14] talking about Neville Singum uh who's
[00:05:16] based I think in in China. uh tell us
[00:05:19] what you have what your research has
[00:05:21] uncovered about this foreign money
[00:05:22] making its way to American protests that
[00:05:25] often harm our law enforcement officers.
[00:05:28] >> Sure. So Neville Roy Singham he's an
[00:05:29] American citizen. He's an avowed
[00:05:31] Marxist. Uh you'd think and he he made
[00:05:33] nearly a billion dollars roughly a
[00:05:35] decade ago selling his tech company. Uh
[00:05:39] you know one of the funds that purchased
[00:05:40] the tech company had Chinese sovereign
[00:05:42] wealth uh money in it. And uh once he
[00:05:45] sold that company again got close to $1
[00:05:48] billion dollar he now uses that money to
[00:05:50] fund a variety of uh protest riot
[00:05:54] anti-semitic protests the pro Hamas
[00:05:56] things in New York he funded the LA
[00:05:58] riots uh earlier this year uh and so he
[00:06:02] lives in China is a proCCP guy uh and
[00:06:06] he's he's uh you know not done he's also
[00:06:09] got very close ties to the communists in
[00:06:10] Cuba he finances trips uh for American
[00:06:14] groups who go down to Cuba to receive
[00:06:16] Marxist revolutionary training. They
[00:06:18] come back here and then they operate on
[00:06:20] the ground. Uh famously, one of the
[00:06:22] groups in Salt Lake City, the Armed
[00:06:24] Queers of Salt Lake City, they went down
[00:06:26] to Cuba and got one of these trips. Uh
[00:06:28] they're also very anti- ice and and
[00:06:30] working on these uh anti- ice
[00:06:33] demonstrations.
[00:06:33] >> So, let me just make sure I understand.
[00:06:35] You're telling me that protest, quote
[00:06:38] unquote, protest activity we've seen in
[00:06:40] Los Angeles, we've seen in Minnesota,
[00:06:42] we've seen in other places that often
[00:06:43] turns violent, that some of this, maybe
[00:06:46] much of it is funded by overseas money,
[00:06:49] including by this individual who has
[00:06:50] ties to the Chinese Communist Party.
[00:06:51] Have I got that right?
[00:06:52] >> Yeah, that's right. You can see on the
[00:06:53] uh on a lot of the placers when you see
[00:06:55] all these placers roll out party for
[00:06:57] socialism and liberation other groups
[00:06:59] like that uh the democratic socialists
[00:07:02] of America uh these are not organic
[00:07:04] spontaneous they got thousands and
[00:07:06] thousands of signs that get pointed out
[00:07:08] those are all within the s uh Singum
[00:07:09] network
[00:07:10] >> let me just finish with this you
[00:07:11] mentioned another major source of of
[00:07:13] foreign money tell us about that
[00:07:15] >> yeah uh Hans York he's a Swiss
[00:07:17] billionaire he uh the New York Times
[00:07:19] reported this he's one of the largest
[00:07:20] funders of the Arabella network of
[00:07:23] funds. He pledged to give $200 million
[00:07:26] to uh electing people in the United
[00:07:28] States. Many people have wondered how is
[00:07:30] a foreigner allowed to fund political
[00:07:32] operations. Uh thus far has escaped, you
[00:07:35] know, there's been some investigations,
[00:07:36] but not enough.
[00:07:38] >> Uh this is exactly the kind of thing
[00:07:41] that Alexander Hamilton all those years
[00:07:42] ago warned about when he warned about
[00:07:44] the danger of foreign influence and
[00:07:46] foreign adversaries in our elections.
[00:07:48] And we're seeing it play out in real
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