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[00:00:00] Secretary of State Marco Rubio goes to
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[00:00:42] Secretary of State Marco Rubio went to
[00:00:43] the Munich Security Conference over in
[00:00:46] Germany. It was attended by a wide
[00:00:47] variety of politicos both from the Trump
[00:00:49] administration and as we'll see from the
[00:00:51] Democratic side of the aisle. And he was
[00:00:53] the adult in the room. Marco Rubio is
[00:00:55] the best spoken member of the Trump
[00:00:57] administration. It doesn't happen to be
[00:00:59] particularly close when it comes to
[00:01:00] foreign policy and he gave a truly
[00:01:02] bang-up speech about the relationship
[00:01:04] between America and Europe. So you'll
[00:01:06] recall that last year JD Vance vice
[00:01:08] president he also went to Europe and at
[00:01:10] Davos he proceeded to give a speech
[00:01:12] blistering the Europeans. Some for good
[00:01:15] reasons, some for not such great
[00:01:16] reasons, but it appeared to draw the
[00:01:18] hackles of a bunch of Europeans because
[00:01:20] it was basically saying, "Guys, you seem
[00:01:22] to be kind of on your own. America is
[00:01:23] drawing back." And that is not what
[00:01:25] Rubio said. What Rubio said is we have
[00:01:27] strong bonds, centuries long bonds with
[00:01:30] the continent of Europe and many of the
[00:01:31] countries thereupon. And we also are
[00:01:34] going to have common interests with
[00:01:36] those countries, but we need strong
[00:01:37] allies to stand up for themselves. And
[00:01:40] he actually attempted to draw a
[00:01:41] definition of what it meant to be in
[00:01:44] continent with Europe that I think Vice
[00:01:47] President Vance in some ways failed to
[00:01:49] advance. Secretary of State Rubio
[00:01:50] received a standing ovation for this,
[00:01:52] which of course is a good thing because
[00:01:54] his defense of the Trump administration
[00:01:56] policy was quite muscular over at the
[00:01:58] Munich Security Conference. So, he did a
[00:02:01] bit of a Q&A as well. He shared his own
[00:02:05] family history. Again, one of the things
[00:02:06] that that people tend to forget is that,
[00:02:08] for example, Latinos and Hispanics in
[00:02:10] the United States are of Spanish, at
[00:02:13] least in part, descent. Spain is a
[00:02:15] country that is on the continent of
[00:02:16] Europe, which is why people from South
[00:02:19] and Latin America generally speak
[00:02:21] Spanish. It is why, as we will also see
[00:02:23] from Alexander Okaziocortez, there are
[00:02:25] horses on this continent. In any case,
[00:02:28] here was Secretary of State Rubio
[00:02:30] talking about his own family history.
[00:02:33] >> The year that my country was founded,
[00:02:36] Lorenzo and Catalina Geraldi lived in
[00:02:38] Casar Montto in the Kingdom of Pedmont,
[00:02:41] Sardinia.
[00:02:42] and Jose and Manuela Arena lived in
[00:02:44] Sevilla, Spain. I don't know what if
[00:02:47] anything they knew about the uh 13
[00:02:50] colonies which had gained their
[00:02:51] independence for the from the British
[00:02:53] Empire. But here's what I'm certain of.
[00:02:56] They could have never imagined that 250
[00:02:59] years later, one of their direct
[00:03:01] descendants would be back here today on
[00:03:04] this continent as the chief diplomat of
[00:03:07] that infant nation.
[00:03:09] And yet here I am reminded by my own
[00:03:12] story that both our histories and our
[00:03:16] fates will always be linked.
[00:03:20] Secretary of State Rubio also suggested
[00:03:23] that the US and Europe have a great
[00:03:25] history of cooperation. And a bit I want
[00:03:27] to explain sort of the history of
[00:03:29] European identification because one of
[00:03:31] the things that the Secretary of State
[00:03:33] says is that people don't fight for
[00:03:34] ideas. That's not really quite true.
[00:03:36] People definitely fight for ideas, but
[00:03:38] those ideas do have to be rooted in a
[00:03:40] time and a place and in a loyalty to
[00:03:42] family and kinship and nation. Anyway,
[00:03:45] here was Secretary of State Rubio
[00:03:46] talking about the history of US European
[00:03:49] cooperation.
[00:03:51] Together, we rebuilt the shattered
[00:03:53] continent in the wake of two devastating
[00:03:55] world wars. When we found ourselves
[00:03:58] divided once again by the Iron Curtain,
[00:04:00] the free West linked arms with the
[00:04:02] courageous dissident struggling against
[00:04:04] tyranny in the east to defeat Soviet
[00:04:07] communism. We have fought against each
[00:04:10] other, then reconciled, then fought,
[00:04:12] then reconciled again.
[00:04:14] And we have bled and died side by side
[00:04:17] on battlefields from Chem from Capyang
[00:04:21] to Kandahar.
[00:04:24] The Secretary of State went on to
[00:04:26] explain that a US European alliance
[00:04:28] should be growing and building and
[00:04:30] burgeoning and ruling the new century.
[00:04:34] Together we can re-industrialize our
[00:04:36] economies and rebuild our capacity to
[00:04:38] defend our people. But the work of this
[00:04:41] new alliance should not be focused just
[00:04:43] on military cooperation and reclaiming
[00:04:45] the industries of the past. It should
[00:04:48] also be focused on together advancing
[00:04:50] our mutual interests in new frontiers,
[00:04:53] unshackling our ingenuity, our
[00:04:55] creativity and the dynamic spirit to
[00:04:58] build a new western century.
[00:05:02] Now, what Rubio said there is that we
[00:05:05] definitely need strong allies. That it
[00:05:06] can't just be the United States picking
[00:05:08] up the check for everybody else. You
[00:05:09] can't build gigantic welfare states on
[00:05:11] the back of American taxpayers. You need
[00:05:13] to be strong because strong alliances
[00:05:15] require strong allies. And those strong
[00:05:17] allies are capable of providing
[00:05:19] deterrence against, for example, a
[00:05:21] wavered Russia. Here was the Secretary
[00:05:22] of State.
[00:05:24] >> We want allies who can defend themselves
[00:05:26] so that no adversary will ever be
[00:05:28] tempted to test our collective strength.
[00:05:31] This is why we do not want our allies to
[00:05:33] be shackled by guilt and shame. We want
[00:05:36] allies who are proud of their culture
[00:05:38] and of their heritage, who understand
[00:05:40] that we are heirs to the same great and
[00:05:42] noble civilization, and who together
[00:05:44] with us are willing and able to defend
[00:05:48] it.
[00:05:50] Rubio called out a bunch of problems
[00:05:52] that the continent has brought upon
[00:05:53] itself, ranging from its subjugation of
[00:05:56] itself to the green revolution, the
[00:05:59] green new deal sort of thinking to the
[00:06:02] mass migration that it brought in upon
[00:06:04] itself largely through a bizarre sort of
[00:06:06] blood guilt. The idea that Europe
[00:06:08] because it had destroyed so much of the
[00:06:10] world during World War II somehow owed
[00:06:12] it to the rest of the world to open its
[00:06:13] borders and bring everyone in. Here's
[00:06:15] Rubio speaking up against that.
[00:06:18] >> Mass migration is not was not is some
[00:06:22] fringe concern of little consequence. It
[00:06:25] was and continues to be a crisis which
[00:06:27] is transforming and destabilizing
[00:06:30] societies all across the west.
[00:06:34] >> And then he talked about the sort of
[00:06:36] values that are supposed to unite the
[00:06:37] United States and Europe. This I think
[00:06:39] was the key section of his speech.
[00:06:43] The fundamental question we must answer
[00:06:44] at the outset
[00:06:47] is what exactly are we defending?
[00:06:49] Because armies do not fight for
[00:06:52] abstractions. Armies fight for a people.
[00:06:55] Armies fight for a nation. Armies fight
[00:06:58] for a way of life. And that is what we
[00:07:01] are defending. A great civilization that
[00:07:04] has every reason to be proud of its
[00:07:06] history.
[00:07:07] >> Well, Marco Rubio is the adult in the
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[00:09:42] Okay, so the question is, what are the
[00:09:45] ideas that unite that civilization? So
[00:09:47] he says armies don't fight for
[00:09:48] abstractions. I beg to differ somewhat.
[00:09:50] Obviously, armies do fight for
[00:09:51] abstractions. There are armies that have
[00:09:53] fought for communism. There are armies
[00:09:55] that fight for Islamic fundamentalism.
[00:09:57] There are armies that have fought for
[00:09:58] Catholicism and for Protestantism.
[00:10:01] There are armies all over the world that
[00:10:02] fight for ideas. The question is, what
[00:10:04] are the ideas of Western civilization
[00:10:06] that are worth upholding and preserving
[00:10:08] because if you don't know what it is you
[00:10:09] are defending, it is very difficult to
[00:10:10] fight for it. So, here is how he
[00:10:12] characterized civilization. He said,
[00:10:15] "For the United States and Europe, we
[00:10:16] belong together. America was founded 250
[00:10:18] years ago, but the roots began here on
[00:10:20] this continent long before. The man who
[00:10:22] settled and built the nation of my birth
[00:10:23] arrived on our shores, carrying the
[00:10:25] memories and the traditions and the
[00:10:26] Christian faith of their ancestors as a
[00:10:28] sacred inheritance, an unbreakable link
[00:10:30] between the old world and the new. We
[00:10:32] are part of one civilization, Western
[00:10:33] civilization. We're bound to one another
[00:10:35] by the deepest bonds that nations could
[00:10:37] share. forged by centuries of shared
[00:10:39] history, Christian faith, culture,
[00:10:40] heritage, language, ancestry, and the
[00:10:42] sacrifices our forefathers made together
[00:10:44] for the common civilization to which we
[00:10:46] have fallen heir. And a little bit later
[00:10:48] on in the speech, he again describes
[00:10:51] Western civilization. Quote, "It was
[00:10:52] here in Europe where the ideas that
[00:10:54] planted the seeds of liberty that
[00:10:55] changed the world were born. It was here
[00:10:57] in Europe where the world which gave the
[00:10:58] world the rule of law, the universities,
[00:11:00] and the scientific revolution. It was
[00:11:02] this continent that produced the genius
[00:11:03] of Mozart and Beethoven, of Dante and
[00:11:05] Shakespeare, of Michelangelo and Da
[00:11:07] Vinci of the Beatles and the Rolling
[00:11:08] Stones. I agree with a lot of this. The
[00:11:09] Beatles and the Rolling Stones apart.
[00:11:11] And this is the place where the vaulted
[00:11:12] ceilings, said the secretary of state,
[00:11:14] of the Systeine Chapel and the towering
[00:11:16] spires of the great cathedral in
[00:11:17] Cologne. They testify not just to the
[00:11:19] greatness of our past or to a faith in
[00:11:21] God that inspired these marvels. They
[00:11:23] foreshadow the wonders that await us in
[00:11:25] our future. But only if we are
[00:11:26] unapologetic in our heritage and proud
[00:11:28] of this common inheritance can we work
[00:11:30] together to begin the envisioning and
[00:11:31] shaping of our economic and political
[00:11:33] future.
[00:11:35] And this is some interesting stuff here
[00:11:37] and it requires a little bit of a
[00:11:38] breakdown because the truth is that
[00:11:39] Europe itself is a bit of an idea. There
[00:11:42] have times when members of the European
[00:11:44] continent have been fighting each other
[00:11:45] tooth and nail in bloody centuries long
[00:11:48] war. It is true that Europe itself was
[00:11:52] divided in the middle of the 20th
[00:11:54] century. So what exactly is the concept
[00:11:56] of Europe? What is the American European
[00:11:59] common heritage ideological heritage
[00:12:02] that actually counts? Because if you if
[00:12:04] you're talking about heritage heritage,
[00:12:06] then let's just be real about this. The
[00:12:08] Germans and the French were fighting
[00:12:09] each other for several centuries. The
[00:12:10] French and the English were fighting
[00:12:11] each other for several centuries.
[00:12:14] The Italians and the French and the
[00:12:17] Spanish and everybody else were fighting
[00:12:19] each other for several centuries there.
[00:12:21] And so if you're going to talk about
[00:12:22] Europe as a holistic concept, you have
[00:12:24] to sort of define your terms. If you
[00:12:27] were going through the history of Europe
[00:12:29] going all the way back to the Roman
[00:12:30] Empire, what you'd see is that the Roman
[00:12:32] Empire was its own civilization. It
[00:12:34] considered outlying areas to be
[00:12:36] barbarians, which means people who are
[00:12:39] sort of speaking gibberish. It at that
[00:12:42] time applied to the Germans, right? The
[00:12:44] Germans were the barbarians.
[00:12:46] And the Germans now of course are
[00:12:47] considered part of European
[00:12:48] civilization. After the fall of the
[00:12:50] Roman Empire, what rose in its wake was
[00:12:53] Christendom, which was basically the
[00:12:55] idea of Catholic dominance of the
[00:12:58] European continent. And that grew over
[00:13:01] the course of the Carolinian Empire and
[00:13:03] then grew over the course of the
[00:13:04] subsequent centuries up until the
[00:13:06] Protestant Reformation. The Protestant
[00:13:09] Reformation ushered in an era of
[00:13:11] religious warfare that lasted well over
[00:13:13] 100 years and end with the peace of
[00:13:15] Westfailia that basically ended
[00:13:17] Christendom.
[00:13:19] There's sort of a new concept of Europe
[00:13:21] that was formed in the aftermath and the
[00:13:24] question is always in opposition to
[00:13:25] what? So whenever you are defining a
[00:13:27] civilization, civilizations have an
[00:13:29] internal definition and then they have
[00:13:30] an a definition with regard to others.
[00:13:34] So the reality is the Roman Empire was
[00:13:36] not only defined as that which was under
[00:13:37] the sway of Rome but also in opposition
[00:13:40] to other empires in opposition to other
[00:13:43] armies, German armies or Assyrian armies
[00:13:47] or Persian armies or whatever the case
[00:13:49] may be.
[00:13:51] Christrysendom was largely forged in
[00:13:53] opposition to Muhammadanism and to Islam
[00:13:57] in the aftermath of the fall of the
[00:13:58] Roman Empire because Islam was actually
[00:14:00] a dire threat to Europe and spread all
[00:14:02] the way in deep into Europe all the way
[00:14:04] into France actually
[00:14:07] after the peace of Westfailia.
[00:14:10] Then about a century later you started
[00:14:13] to get the rise of the enlightenment and
[00:14:15] then the west became identified with
[00:14:17] these enlightenment ideas. a history of
[00:14:19] Christianity that bled over into a sort
[00:14:21] of secularized version of many of the
[00:14:23] key values of Christianity, but with a
[00:14:26] critical eye toward the idea that
[00:14:27] religion could answer all questions and
[00:14:29] therefore a sort of arisatilian approach
[00:14:32] toward science that looked to evidence
[00:14:35] first
[00:14:36] and you get the separation of church and
[00:14:38] state in many of these countries. You
[00:14:40] get the rise of the scientific
[00:14:42] revolution, the rise of the industrial
[00:14:43] revolution, the rise of free economies
[00:14:44] and all the rest.
[00:14:46] And then of course the west tears itself
[00:14:48] apart. Europe with the rise of
[00:14:50] nationalism
[00:14:52] falls into war. World War many times
[00:14:56] actually but two big ones, right? World
[00:14:58] Wars one and two. And then you have a
[00:15:00] west redefined in opposition to Soviet
[00:15:03] communism. And in the aftermath of
[00:15:05] Soviet communism, what is the west? What
[00:15:07] are these values that we hold dear?
[00:15:10] So it is not just a matter of quote
[00:15:12] unquote common heritage. It is not just
[00:15:14] a matter of common language because the
[00:15:15] truth is that for virtually all of this
[00:15:17] history there wasn't really a common
[00:15:19] language.
[00:15:21] It is not really just a matter
[00:15:24] of sort of cultural inheritance because
[00:15:26] there are similarities in cultures and
[00:15:28] pretty significant differences in these
[00:15:29] cultures. So much so that again people
[00:15:31] were fighting bloody wars that killed
[00:15:33] off significant portions of the
[00:15:34] continent for centuries on end. But to
[00:15:37] pretend that Europe doesn't exist as a
[00:15:39] concept or as a civilization is of
[00:15:41] course silly. So what is Europe today?
[00:15:43] Obviously it has a shared Christian
[00:15:45] history. It grew out of Christendom.
[00:15:48] But also it has an enlightenment history
[00:15:50] and it has shared values. And if those
[00:15:53] values Wayne so too will the alliance
[00:15:55] between the old world and the new.
[00:15:59] And those values include things like the
[00:16:00] rule of law and freedom of speech and
[00:16:03] yes freedom of religion and property
[00:16:05] rights and yes democracy and small our
[00:16:08] republicanism.
[00:16:10] This is one reason among many that
[00:16:13] Russia has never quite ever entered the
[00:16:15] world of Europe. It has always sort of
[00:16:17] existed on the fringes of Europe. But
[00:16:21] as Vladimir Putin's brain, Alexander
[00:16:22] Dugan has explained,
[00:16:24] European ideas or what he calls
[00:16:26] Atlanticist ideas are not in fact
[00:16:29] Russian ideas. It's a very different set
[00:16:31] of things. And that's why trying to
[00:16:32] integrate the Russian Empire into Europe
[00:16:34] has always been a failed experiment.
[00:16:37] What does this mean? Well, it means
[00:16:39] number one that Europe needs to uphold
[00:16:40] its own values. It means the United
[00:16:42] States needs to uphold its own values.
[00:16:43] And it needs to understand, we all need
[00:16:45] to understand that a shared history and
[00:16:48] a shared experience and a shared set of
[00:16:51] values are all necessary in order to
[00:16:54] have an increasingly powerful alliance.
[00:16:58] The Secretary of State Rubio, again for
[00:17:00] laying this out, received a standing
[00:17:01] ovation at Munich, which is a very
[00:17:03] different response than the vice
[00:17:04] president received. Again, the vice
[00:17:05] president came in with a 2x4 and started
[00:17:06] clocking people. Secretary of State
[00:17:08] Rubio came in and he said, "Listen,
[00:17:10] here's all the things that we share and
[00:17:11] also you need to actually strengthen
[00:17:13] yourselves. You need to not empty
[00:17:15] yourselves out because of dumb
[00:17:16] environmental regulations or through
[00:17:17] mass migration
[00:17:20] or through bad trade deals." Here was
[00:17:23] the Secretary of State receiving a
[00:17:24] standing ovation.
[00:17:27] [applause]
[00:17:31] [applause]
[00:17:38] Again, for all those who so who seem to
[00:17:41] believe that the Trump administration
[00:17:42] has offended all of our European allies
[00:17:44] beyond recognition that there's no
[00:17:46] future there, that obviously is not
[00:17:47] true. You need a wellspoken advocate of
[00:17:50] that relationship. and a realist
[00:17:52] advocate of that relationship. Not not
[00:17:54] some sort of pie in the sky Wilsonian
[00:17:56] dreamer who believes that America ought
[00:17:58] to foot the bills for our allies such
[00:17:59] that again they can slip into quietude
[00:18:02] and scinessence. They can slip into old
[00:18:04] age into the welfare state decay into
[00:18:08] which they have slipped endlessly and
[00:18:10] we'll continue to foot the bill. That is
[00:18:12] not real. What Rubio did there is he
[00:18:15] bucked up Europe. He encouraged them. He
[00:18:16] said, "Listen, you can be great again.
[00:18:18] We can help make you great again. We
[00:18:20] want to sit alongside you and hold hands
[00:18:24] and walk forward into the future
[00:18:26] together.
[00:18:28] He said that. He said, quote, I am here
[00:18:29] today to leave it clear that America is
[00:18:31] charting the path for a new century of
[00:18:32] prosperity. And that once again, we want
[00:18:34] to do it together with you, our
[00:18:35] cherished allies and our oldest friends.
[00:18:39] We want to do it together with you. With
[00:18:40] a Europe that is proud of its heritage
[00:18:42] and of its history. With a Europe that
[00:18:44] has the spirit of creation of liberty
[00:18:45] that sent ships out into uncharted seas
[00:18:47] and birthed our civilization. with a
[00:18:49] Europe that has the means to defend
[00:18:50] itself and the will to survive.
[00:18:52] And that is the proper conclusion. Of
[00:18:55] course.
[00:18:57] So again, this is the right approach for
[00:18:59] the Trump administration to take.
[00:19:03] It is a big difference between there are
[00:19:05] differences inside the Trump
[00:19:06] administration. Okay. Trying to pretend
[00:19:08] there are not is I think foolhardy.
[00:19:11] Elbridge Kby who is the Pentagon under
[00:19:12] secretary for policy and more aligned
[00:19:14] with the Vance wing of the Republican
[00:19:15] party told attendees in Munich that he
[00:19:18] is not sure that the one time quote
[00:19:19] hosanas and shibiliths about shared
[00:19:21] values between Europe and the US are
[00:19:23] true
[00:19:26] like that that is
[00:19:29] that is some dicey stuff right there if
[00:19:31] you wish to build alliance with people
[00:19:32] with whom you have historically had
[00:19:34] alliance then you ought to look to
[00:19:35] shared values on the other hand you
[00:19:37] don't want it to be that the sort of
[00:19:40] nostrm of shared values substitutes for
[00:19:42] actual real shared values
[00:19:45] because then you end up with people who
[00:19:48] are living high off the hog while you
[00:19:50] foot the bills. On the other hand, you
[00:19:52] don't want to break the chain of shared
[00:19:55] values with Europe because if you do
[00:19:56] that, then you end up in an isolationist
[00:19:58] position without any allies.
[00:20:03] It's a fascinating gap inside the Trump
[00:20:04] administration. And I think that that
[00:20:06] there's no question from my from my
[00:20:08] perspective that the secretary of state
[00:20:10] has the best of it
[00:20:13] and I think that is why you saw him get
[00:20:14] such a warm reception there.
[00:20:18] Now that is a very different vision for
[00:20:19] the world than the world presented by
[00:20:21] the left. The left showed up on mass.
[00:20:23] The American left showed up on mass in
[00:20:25] Munich and there they presented a
[00:20:27] different vision of quote unquote world
[00:20:28] order. And that world order is a west
[00:20:30] that is apologetic for its own
[00:20:31] existence.
[00:20:32] That believes that it has committed
[00:20:34] grave evils, unrectifiable evils, and
[00:20:38] that all the evils of the rest of the
[00:20:39] world are somehow to be laid at the foot
[00:20:41] of the West.
[00:20:44] That actually what the West ought to do
[00:20:46] is become sort of a repository for
[00:20:48] anyone who wants to come in and subsume
[00:20:50] its own values under the rubric of
[00:20:53] multiculturalism.
[00:20:55] The New York Times took this position.
[00:20:57] Quote, "There's an Afghan grocery store
[00:20:59] on the blocks outside the main train
[00:21:00] station in Munich. Halal food counselors
[00:21:02] are sprinkled amid the cathedral spires
[00:21:05] and beer halls. Nearly one of every
[00:21:06] three residents you meet in town is not
[00:21:08] German. It's a decent approximation of
[00:21:10] what many European cities and Europe
[00:21:12] European people look like today. And a
[00:21:14] different Europe from the one the Trump
[00:21:15] administration says it wants to be
[00:21:17] friends with." Now again, notice the the
[00:21:19] loaded language there. European people
[00:21:22] look like Afghan grocery stores in the
[00:21:25] train station in Munich.
[00:21:28] I mean what values are there? Can there
[00:21:31] be assimilation to European values? In
[00:21:32] this view, there is no western
[00:21:34] civilization. There's just a group of
[00:21:36] people who exist inside a certain
[00:21:38] geographical area.
[00:21:41] The New York Times admits the United
[00:21:42] States and Europe are indeed pillars of
[00:21:44] what historians refer to as Western
[00:21:45] civilization, which has roots typically
[00:21:47] traced to ancient Greece. Now, to be
[00:21:50] fair, I wrote an entire book about
[00:21:51] Western civilization, The Right Side of
[00:21:52] History. It's not just to ancient
[00:21:53] Greece. It is also to ancient Jerusalem.
[00:21:55] Because if you are going to look to
[00:21:57] Christian civilization, you can't just
[00:21:59] look to Greece, as Greece is not where
[00:22:01] Christianity arose. You also have to
[00:22:02] look to its Judeaic roots in Jerusalem.
[00:22:05] Their modern relationship and the bonds
[00:22:06] that Rubio said it held together,
[00:22:08] according to the New York Times, has
[00:22:09] been changed by demographic trends,
[00:22:10] including new arrivals and rising
[00:22:12] secularization.
[00:22:16] After a decade long influx of migrants
[00:22:17] from the Middle East and elsewhere, the
[00:22:18] share of Muslims across Europe has
[00:22:20] ticked up to about 6% in 2020, according
[00:22:22] to Pew.
[00:22:24] Countries across Europe have struggled
[00:22:26] with questions of migration, culture,
[00:22:28] and heritage in recent years.
[00:22:32] And of course, the idea here is that
[00:22:34] Europe should basically wither away into
[00:22:36] nothingness
[00:22:39] while apparently bankrolling the rest of
[00:22:41] the world. This is the perspective of
[00:22:42] the American left. AOC again took that
[00:22:45] 2028 bicycle out for a ride and she
[00:22:47] proceeded to smash that directly into an
[00:22:49] embankment. They go head over heels down
[00:22:51] a mountain. It was not a good showing
[00:22:53] for Alexander Okaziocortez, who of
[00:22:56] course is the heir to the Bernie Sanders
[00:22:58] wing of the party. According to the New
[00:23:00] York Times, however, she did an amazing
[00:23:02] job. Quote, Representative Alexander
[00:23:04] Okaziocortez had anticipated a
[00:23:06] potentially frosty reception to her
[00:23:08] anti-establishment arguments at the
[00:23:09] Munich Security Conference, a venue she
[00:23:11] called quote, "An elite place of
[00:23:12] decision makers that frankly are not
[00:23:14] responsive to a class-based message."
[00:23:16] And this, of course, was her stick. Her
[00:23:18] stick was that workers of the world
[00:23:20] unite. There's nothing that she is
[00:23:22] saying that the wobblies weren't saying
[00:23:23] prior to World War I or that Marxists
[00:23:26] haven't been saying for a century and a
[00:23:28] half at this point that the workers of
[00:23:30] the world are going to unite and rise up
[00:23:32] and that all of the problems on planet
[00:23:33] Earth are caused by class basis. That of
[00:23:36] course is nonsense. It has been
[00:23:37] eminently defeated by history itself
[00:23:39] over and over and over again. But bad
[00:23:41] ideas never die. They just sort of fade
[00:23:43] and then come back even stronger. But
[00:23:46] according to the New York Times, the
[00:23:47] visit to Germany felt high stakes. It
[00:23:49] was the most prominent foreign trip to
[00:23:50] date by the progressive New York
[00:23:52] congresswoman who had mostly focused on
[00:23:53] domestic priorities until now. Her
[00:23:55] remarks last week about addressing
[00:23:57] working-class concerns around the globe,
[00:23:58] and the reception from world leaders
[00:24:00] were both eagerly awaited and highly
[00:24:01] scrutinized. But rather than the
[00:24:03] substance of her arguments, it was her
[00:24:04] on camera stumbles when answering
[00:24:06] questions about specific world affairs
[00:24:08] that rocketed around conservative social
[00:24:10] media and drove plenty of the discussion
[00:24:11] about her visit as potential observers
[00:24:13] speculated whether they would make a
[00:24:15] dent in a potential presidential run in
[00:24:17] 2028. Okay, so the problem here
[00:24:19] apparently is Republicans pounds. Of
[00:24:21] course, according to It's not that she
[00:24:22] screwed it up, it's that Republicans
[00:24:24] pounds. Now, she had been preparing for
[00:24:25] this, according to Politico, for
[00:24:27] literally months, quote, to prepare for
[00:24:29] her Munich debut. AOC has been advised
[00:24:32] by Matt Dus, the former foreign policy
[00:24:34] adviser to Bernie Sanders, an EVP at the
[00:24:36] progressive think tank center for
[00:24:38] international policy. The two have met
[00:24:40] roughly half a dozen times over Zoom and
[00:24:42] in person since she received her
[00:24:43] invitation.
[00:24:45] Now, I'm just going to point out at this
[00:24:47] point, Matt Dus is a horrifyingly bad
[00:24:49] pick as your adviser. Bernie Sanders is
[00:24:51] the stupidest person on foreign policy
[00:24:53] in modern American history. Truly a
[00:24:55] dullard. His economic policy is bad
[00:24:57] enough. His foreign policy has the
[00:24:59] United States basically siding with
[00:25:01] every terrible regime on planet Earth
[00:25:03] and also blaming America simultaneously
[00:25:05] for every bad thing that happens on
[00:25:07] planet Earth.
[00:25:10] He's a low IQ Noam Chsky. Bernie
[00:25:12] Sanders.
[00:25:15] AOC tried to run interference with the
[00:25:17] New York Times. She in an interview with
[00:25:18] the Times in which she tried to
[00:25:20] backtrack all of her failures. Quote,
[00:25:22] "The story is less about the opponents
[00:25:24] being some hypothetical primary. To me,
[00:25:26] my opponents are the networks that link
[00:25:27] Orbin, Trump, Melee, Bolsini, all these
[00:25:30] folks. We need to be able to be very
[00:25:31] angry at each other and also know what
[00:25:33] the real enemy is. We have to grow our
[00:25:35] ranks and we have to persuade. If we go
[00:25:36] separately, we will lose it all." Okay,
[00:25:39] I'm just going to point out again,
[00:25:42] Javier Mle is not an authoritarian
[00:25:43] leader. He is not. Javier Mle is a
[00:25:46] libertarian.
[00:25:48] Victor Orban has been repeatedly elected
[00:25:50] in Hungary. You may not like Victor
[00:25:51] Orban. He has been repeatedly elected in
[00:25:53] Hungary. And if you want to learn more
[00:25:54] about Victor Orban, go watch the
[00:25:55] interview that I did with him in Hungary
[00:25:57] or the interview that I did with Mle.
[00:26:00] Now, linking together every leader you
[00:26:02] don't like and then just saying all bad
[00:26:04] is simpleton stuff. But of course, she
[00:26:07] is not particularly bright. I know we're
[00:26:08] not supposed to say it. She isn't. I'm
[00:26:10] sorry. She isn't. Can we just call
[00:26:12] stupid people stupid sometimes? She is
[00:26:14] not very smart. That doesn't mean that
[00:26:17] she can't speak cogently for 37 seconds
[00:26:20] in the middle of a congressional hearing
[00:26:21] when all her material has been
[00:26:22] pre-written. She can, but on her feet,
[00:26:26] she is a tortoise. She cannot move. She
[00:26:28] is stuck to the ground. gravity has
[00:26:30] inordinate effect on her mind apparently
[00:26:33] when she is asked to stick and move. So
[00:26:37] for example here she was asked about
[00:26:40] whether the United States should defend
[00:26:41] Taiwan if China seeks to make a move on
[00:26:42] Taiwan and brain freeze.
[00:26:46] >> Would and should the US actually commit
[00:26:49] US troops to defend Taiwan if China were
[00:26:52] to move? Um, you know, I think that uh
[00:26:58] this is such a uh you know, I I think
[00:27:02] that
[00:27:03] this is a um
[00:27:07] >> this is of course a a very long-standing
[00:27:10] um
[00:27:12] policy of the United States. Uh and I
[00:27:15] think what we are hoping for is that we
[00:27:17] want to make sure that we never get to
[00:27:20] that point and we want to make sure that
[00:27:23] we are moving in all of our economic
[00:27:26] research and our global positions to
[00:27:28] avoid any such confrontation and for
[00:27:31] that question to even arise.
[00:27:34] And um the uh the Iraq and the Iraq
[00:27:40] badl look air from Alexander Okaziac
[00:27:42] Cortez losing some of the fresh and
[00:27:45] losing some of the face. No longer so
[00:27:47] fresh face trademark. Man, that is some
[00:27:50] bad stuff. But of course, she's done
[00:27:53] this before. You can recall that one
[00:27:55] time when she interviewed with Margaret
[00:27:56] Hoover and she was asked about Israel
[00:27:58] and the Palestinians and she did the
[00:28:00] exact same thing. She doesn't know
[00:28:01] things, okay? She doesn't she doesn't
[00:28:03] read books. She doesn't study. She is
[00:28:05] not particularly smart.
[00:28:10] This is our politics now. Dumb people
[00:28:12] who are good on TikTok. This is our
[00:28:14] politics now. Congrats to everybody. You
[00:28:15] did great. Also, by the way, apparently
[00:28:18] the reason the United States went after
[00:28:20] Nicholas Maduro is because Venezuela is
[00:28:22] below the equator. Oh, wait.
[00:28:26] It isn't.
[00:28:30] You know, we look at what happened in
[00:28:32] Venezuela, for example. It is not a uh
[00:28:37] it it is it is not a a remark on who
[00:28:42] Maduro was as a leader. He canceled
[00:28:44] elections. He was an anti-democratic
[00:28:46] leader. That doesn't mean that we can
[00:28:47] kidnap a head of state and engage in
[00:28:51] acts of war just because the nation is
[00:28:54] below the equator.
[00:28:56] And [applause] um
[00:29:01] >> it's not below the equator. Also, it's
[00:29:04] not an act of war to capture a person
[00:29:07] who is a criminal and bring him back to
[00:29:10] the United States. We are not at war
[00:29:11] with Venezuela. We are currently working
[00:29:13] handinand glove with the Venezuelan
[00:29:15] government. Actually, all of this of
[00:29:17] course was secondary to the actual
[00:29:19] stupidity which was the big statement
[00:29:20] from her. The big statement from her is
[00:29:22] that again, America, Europe, these are
[00:29:24] negative forces in the world. They are
[00:29:25] exploitive. They are capitalistic. And
[00:29:27] this means that they are bad. Here she
[00:29:30] explained that whiteness is an imaginary
[00:29:32] thing. Now,
[00:29:35] there's a complexity here that could
[00:29:37] theoretically be explored, but not the
[00:29:38] way she's doing it.
[00:29:42] There's a very big difference between
[00:29:45] whiteness
[00:29:46] and
[00:29:49] national like your actual culture,
[00:29:53] right? whiteness is uh an imaginary
[00:29:56] thing.
[00:29:58] >> Like whoa, like
[00:30:02] Hey, by the way, if we're going to do
[00:30:03] that, then there is no such thing as
[00:30:05] Latinosess because it turns out that
[00:30:06] there are a bunch of different
[00:30:07] variations there. It turns out that
[00:30:09] people from Cuba not exactly the same as
[00:30:10] people from Puerto Rico not exactly the
[00:30:12] same as people from Argentina or from
[00:30:14] Venezuela or from Peru.
[00:30:17] Like what point are why is it only
[00:30:20] whiteness is not a thing? Blackness is a
[00:30:22] thing. Even though again great variation
[00:30:25] in the so-called black community. I say
[00:30:27] so-called because a Nigerian American
[00:30:29] who got here 20 years ago is not exactly
[00:30:31] from the same group of people as
[00:30:33] American descendants of slaves, which is
[00:30:35] why we have a term American
[00:30:37] descendants of slaves.
[00:30:40] Whatever. Trying to trying to delve into
[00:30:43] the depths of Alexander Okaziocortez's
[00:30:45] thought is like trying to jump from a
[00:30:48] diving board into a kitty pool head
[00:30:51] first. You are likely to crack your
[00:30:54] neck.
[00:30:56] But in the end, AOC only wants a world
[00:30:58] order without hypocrisies. Uhhuh.
[00:31:03] In a rules-based order, hypocrisy is
[00:31:08] vulnerability.
[00:31:09] And so I think what we are seeking is a
[00:31:11] return to a rules-based order that
[00:31:14] eliminates the hypocrisies
[00:31:16] around when too often in the west we
[00:31:19] look the other way for inconvenient
[00:31:22] populations
[00:31:24] um to act out these paradoxes. Whether
[00:31:28] it is, you know, kidnapping a foreign
[00:31:32] head of state, whether it is threatening
[00:31:35] our allies to colonize Greenland,
[00:31:38] whether it is um looking the other way
[00:31:43] in a genocide. Hypocrisies are
[00:31:46] vulnerabilities and they threaten
[00:31:47] democracies globally. And so I think
[00:31:50] many of us are here to say we are here
[00:31:52] and we are ready for the next chapter.
[00:31:54] Not to have the world turn to isolation,
[00:31:57] but to deepen our partnership on on
[00:32:01] greater and increased commitment to
[00:32:03] integrity to our values.
[00:32:06] >> Okay. So apparently non-hypocrisy would
[00:32:08] be allowing Venezuela to continue to be
[00:32:10] a communist dictatorship, allowing Hamas
[00:32:12] to rule the Gaza Strip with an iron hand
[00:32:14] and invade Israel. that those would be
[00:32:17] the the non-hypocrisies according to
[00:32:18] AOC. Listen, this is what Democrats have
[00:32:20] to offer. Good luck to them. Seriously,
[00:32:23] good luck to them. Joining me on the
[00:32:24] line to discuss all this is Senator Tim
[00:32:26] Scott of South Carolina. Senator Scott,
[00:32:28] thanks so much for taking the time.
[00:32:29] Really appreciate it.
[00:32:30] >> Hey man, how are you doing today? Good
[00:32:31] to be with you.
[00:32:33] >> I think doing well. So, let's talk about
[00:32:35] the shocking contrast between the
[00:32:37] Secretary of State Marco Rubio in Munich
[00:32:40] and AOC and other Democrats in Munich.
[00:32:42] Secretary of State Rubio laid out a
[00:32:44] common vision for the United States and
[00:32:46] Europe in Munich which was very warm. It
[00:32:49] was also demanding on the Europeans.
[00:32:50] What did you think of the Secretary of
[00:32:51] State speech?
[00:32:55] I thought it was incredibly
[00:32:56] statesmanlike. He did a fantastic job
[00:32:58] talking very much about the shared value
[00:33:00] system that created the greatest the
[00:33:04] west alliance and it was based upon this
[00:33:06] Judeo-Christian ethos that permeates in
[00:33:09] the soil led by America and it's when we
[00:33:11] sta stand strong on our foundation we
[00:33:14] succeed as an alliance when we deter
[00:33:16] from that when we take a detour from
[00:33:18] that it everything seems to fall apart I
[00:33:21] thought he did a fabulous job of
[00:33:23] foreshadowing the future of America if
[00:33:25] we get immigration wrong and or
[00:33:28] foreshadowing the future of Europe if
[00:33:30] they come back to this western alliance
[00:33:33] this ethos that permeates by doing so
[00:33:35] what you do and Ben is you start
[00:33:38] focusing on what we have in common that
[00:33:41] purpose is incredibly important we see
[00:33:44] that in the immigration policy here at
[00:33:46] home we see that with the closed borders
[00:33:48] by President Trump here at home we see
[00:33:49] that in focusing on free markets
[00:33:52] capitalism but most importantly it is
[00:33:54] the foundation of values that has made
[00:33:57] America the most prosperous country on
[00:33:59] the planet. And it is what tethers us to
[00:34:02] this western alliance is a value system
[00:34:04] that has to be protected. I've said it
[00:34:07] several times, you can't have multiple
[00:34:09] missions in a simple singular alliance.
[00:34:13] It has to be one mission. That mission
[00:34:16] comes from our shared values. And
[00:34:18] anytime you allow immigration to
[00:34:21] confuse, to distort, and to try to have
[00:34:25] multiple missions, you always destroy
[00:34:27] the underlying country or alliance. And
[00:34:30] that's what I thought he did really
[00:34:32] well, speaking about our shared values
[00:34:35] and talking about how we can succeed
[00:34:38] together if we stand on those shared
[00:34:41] values.
[00:34:43] >> And Senator Scott, one of the things
[00:34:44] that was pretty astonishing is at the
[00:34:46] reception. So, so obviously he's a
[00:34:47] European audience and the European
[00:34:49] audience was extraordinarily warm
[00:34:50] towards Secretary Rubio. He he spoke
[00:34:52] many of the same sort of harsh truths to
[00:34:54] the Europeans actually that the vice
[00:34:55] president did a few months back, but
[00:34:57] this time they seem to be willing to
[00:34:58] hear them because again he began with
[00:35:01] the realization and and the reality that
[00:35:03] the United States and Europe ought to be
[00:35:04] on the same side. He he wasn't starting
[00:35:06] sort of from the point of taking a 2x4
[00:35:08] to them. It was listen, we we want you
[00:35:10] to do better. if you are strong allies,
[00:35:12] if you join us in this mission, then
[00:35:14] we'll be able to walk into the future
[00:35:15] together. I thought it was a very
[00:35:16] encouraging, optimistic message and and
[00:35:18] I think that the Europeans responded to
[00:35:20] that even though again he was he was
[00:35:21] saying some pretty harsh things to them.
[00:35:23] I don't disagree with you, Ben. That's
[00:35:24] one of the reasons why I thought it was
[00:35:25] really important to to reflect on why it
[00:35:28] was so successful. I think the
[00:35:29] foundation matters, but he also used a
[00:35:30] really important word, we he said we a
[00:35:33] lot. Why? Because when you were talking,
[00:35:35] if you're going to be critical of
[00:35:36] someone and you start with a
[00:35:37] conversation, we need to do these things
[00:35:39] better. looking at what we've done well,
[00:35:42] contrasting where they've departed from
[00:35:45] what we're doing really well. That is a
[00:35:47] place where you can lean into the
[00:35:49] conversation. If you're going to
[00:35:50] critique your friends, you got to do so
[00:35:53] with love in your heart. You've got to
[00:35:54] do so with this shared concept at the
[00:35:57] top of the top of your mind. He did a
[00:35:59] really good job of articulating the
[00:36:01] necessary uh change in direction that we
[00:36:04] need to see from our European allies and
[00:36:06] at the same time reinforcing the fact
[00:36:09] that it has been a western coalition
[00:36:11] that has transformed everything we know
[00:36:14] in modern history since World War II. If
[00:36:17] we're going to have the kind of success
[00:36:19] we need to defend true, strong,
[00:36:23] universal values, it is better done as a
[00:36:26] team. But if you're not going to play by
[00:36:29] the same rules, the same values, with
[00:36:31] the same objectives,
[00:36:33] the team will not abide. And I thought
[00:36:34] he did a really good job of articulating
[00:36:37] that with the concept of we, which is
[00:36:39] very important.
[00:36:42] >> By contrast, the Democrats in Munich, I
[00:36:44] thought, did a pretty shockingly bad
[00:36:46] job. Alexander Okaziocortez, as I said
[00:36:49] earlier on the show, was taking her 2028
[00:36:51] car out for a spin. It it kind of spun
[00:36:53] out. It hit it hit the embankment a few
[00:36:55] times. It was not a good look for AOC.
[00:36:57] Aside from her pretty obvious gaffs
[00:36:59] saying that that Venezuela was south of
[00:37:01] the equator and such, the the gigant the
[00:37:03] general vision that she laid out for
[00:37:05] Western civilization is basically that
[00:37:06] the West is wrong. The West is bad. The
[00:37:08] West is the harbinger of evil. The West
[00:37:10] has been responsible for all the world's
[00:37:12] problems and and this is somehow why she
[00:37:15] should be a leader in the West. It's a
[00:37:18] bizarre self-contradictory notion. What
[00:37:20] did you make of of her speech in in
[00:37:22] Munich and and the rest of the Democrats
[00:37:24] in Munich? Yeah, Ben, you hit hit the
[00:37:27] nail on the head. AOC did a terrible
[00:37:30] job. She seemed confused. She seemed to
[00:37:33] be completely without facts and frankly
[00:37:36] when she was talking about Taiwan, she
[00:37:38] was talking about a genocide and she was
[00:37:40] sympathetic to Hamas when answering
[00:37:42] questions about Taiwan and China. It was
[00:37:44] really strong clear that she had no clue
[00:37:46] what she was talking about. But imagine
[00:37:48] being [clears throat] the split screen
[00:37:50] between AOC on one side and Marco Rubio
[00:37:54] on the other side. It it gave America a
[00:37:57] great contrast on what we could have for
[00:38:00] a future and what we would be afraid of
[00:38:02] for a future. I think President Trump
[00:38:04] made a fantastic decision choosing Marco
[00:38:07] Rubio as our Secretary of State and
[00:38:09] seeing him on one part of the split
[00:38:10] screen and AOC talking about everything
[00:38:13] that seemed to be unamerican while he
[00:38:15] was talking about everything that makes
[00:38:16] America great. She was talking about
[00:38:18] things that were confusing and he was
[00:38:21] very clear. She was talking about
[00:38:24] sympathetic having sympathy for Hamas
[00:38:28] and for people who caused nearly a
[00:38:30] genocide while he was talking about
[00:38:32] defending the values here that are
[00:38:34] clear. He did such a great job job. We
[00:38:39] almost breathe a sigh of relief that
[00:38:42] President Trump in his infinite wisdom
[00:38:44] has chosen well for our nation and our
[00:38:49] future. And at the exact same time,
[00:38:52] Democrats say AOC. That's why as a
[00:38:55] party, the the the Republican party, we
[00:38:59] need to remember that the road to
[00:39:00] socialism runs right through a divided
[00:39:03] Republican party. And it is incredibly
[00:39:05] important that we keep America's future
[00:39:08] as paramount and winning elections as
[00:39:10] the next major step in the right
[00:39:12] direction of having the kind of future
[00:39:14] that Marco Rubio articulated and laid
[00:39:17] out for this western alliance. It starts
[00:39:19] all in America though.
[00:39:21] >> I I think that's exactly right. One of
[00:39:23] the things that that AOC was doing over
[00:39:25] there, she she was talking a lot about
[00:39:26] class consciousness. It was a very
[00:39:27] Bernie Sanders speech. Obviously, some
[00:39:29] of the people who helped her craft it
[00:39:31] are on the Bernie Sanders team,
[00:39:33] including one Matt Dus, who is a former
[00:39:35] foreign policy adviser to Bernie
[00:39:36] Sanders. The Bernie Sanders view of the
[00:39:39] world is essentially a class-based view
[00:39:41] of the world in which any country that
[00:39:44] is rich is exploitative. that the people
[00:39:46] who have made that country rich are the
[00:39:47] exploiters and that there must be some
[00:39:49] sort of gigantic class uprising. If if
[00:39:52] that sort of philosophy is mirrored on
[00:39:53] the right, that is a gigantic category
[00:39:55] error. The the the right in the United
[00:39:57] States and in Europe has to be based on
[00:39:59] again that shared fundamental value
[00:40:00] system that includes things like rule of
[00:40:02] law and equal protection of the laws and
[00:40:04] yes, private property and the
[00:40:06] possibility of of upward mobility and
[00:40:08] and economic progress.
[00:40:13] >> Yes. Well, without any question, if you
[00:40:14] look back at the 250 years of American
[00:40:16] history, the one thing we have to
[00:40:17] conclude is that starting with the right
[00:40:20] foundation as a necessary component for
[00:40:22] all the success that we've seen. Going
[00:40:24] back to our Declaration of Independence
[00:40:25] and having a conversation about how our
[00:40:27] creator gave us inalienable rights. That
[00:40:30] is a that is the value proposition that
[00:40:33] the world needs to take a strong look
[00:40:35] at. And from that you can create an
[00:40:37] objective standard that has the rule of
[00:40:39] law applied fairly across the board
[00:40:41] makes America the envy of the world. It
[00:40:44] is that value system that allows for me
[00:40:46] a poor kid born in 1965 in the deep
[00:40:50] south to believe that the American dream
[00:40:52] is coming not only to the south but to
[00:40:54] my zip code. And as a result of that I
[00:40:56] sit in front of you as a United States
[00:40:58] senator. Why? Because America's values.
[00:41:01] We had to fight for them. We had to
[00:41:03] fight frankly in our own country for
[00:41:05] them. But we did that in the last 30 to
[00:41:08] 40 years of American history has been
[00:41:10] the fastest in history of progress for
[00:41:14] all people. Something the world looks
[00:41:16] back and say how did that happen? It
[00:41:18] happened because we stood on the right
[00:41:20] foundation and we were willing to fight
[00:41:22] for the future that our Declaration of
[00:41:25] Independence said should be ours. and
[00:41:28] AOC and the Democrats fight against our
[00:41:32] value proposition, against a singular
[00:41:35] focus, a purpose for our nation. They
[00:41:39] fight for something we as Americans
[00:41:41] would call unamerican. And that is the
[00:41:44] contrast that we'll see in 28 and
[00:41:46] beyond. I when I say the road to
[00:41:48] socialism, Ben, I mean it sincerely. the
[00:41:51] the thought of meritocracy is something
[00:41:55] the Democrats and the liberals are
[00:41:57] allergic to. I am so thankful that we
[00:42:00] have rules of the road that we have an
[00:42:03] objective standard that allows for the
[00:42:06] poorest kid like me to literally start a
[00:42:10] business and change my financial future.
[00:42:12] I am so thankful that we have a contrast
[00:42:14] between strong education systems around
[00:42:17] the country and the weakest in the
[00:42:20] nation in places like Chicago, 13 uh
[00:42:23] school districts in Maryland where the
[00:42:25] average well frankly only 1% of the kids
[00:42:28] can can read at grade level. We have an
[00:42:32] opportunity to see what works in America
[00:42:34] versus what doesn't work in America. And
[00:42:36] what you'll find very consistently, what
[00:42:38] works in America comes from conservative
[00:42:41] values and what doesn't work comes from
[00:42:43] a socialist paradigm spreading
[00:42:45] throughout parts of the country by AOC
[00:42:48] Mandani and others.
[00:42:51] >> That's Senator Tim Scott of South
[00:42:52] Carolina. Senator, thanks so much for
[00:42:54] your time and thanks for your hard work
[00:42:55] in the Senate.
[00:42:56] >> God bless.
[00:42:57] >> Gretchen Whitmer, who now apparently has
[00:43:00] the same look as Katherine Han, like she
[00:43:02] she looks like she's going to turn to
[00:43:04] camera and wink.
[00:43:06] And I don't know what she's going for
[00:43:07] here, but in any case, it was not a
[00:43:09] great moment for her either. She was
[00:43:10] asked about Ukraine and she didn't know
[00:43:13] where the Ukraine, what is a Ukraine,
[00:43:16] why is a Ukraine? Can Ukraine? Can I
[00:43:19] crane? Can anyone crane? Here's Gretchen
[00:43:22] Whitmer
[00:43:23] >> on Ukraine. What does victory look like?
[00:43:28] >> Ambassador.
[00:43:29] >> No, please. I'd love to [laughter] I'd
[00:43:30] love to hear your answer.
[00:43:33] [snorts]
[00:43:34] you it is I the two the two that I am on
[00:43:38] the panel with are much more steeped in
[00:43:40] foreign policy than than a governor is
[00:43:42] but um you know I do think that
[00:43:46] Ukraine's independence keeping their
[00:43:48] their land mass and having um the
[00:43:51] support of of all the allies I think is
[00:43:54] is the goal
[00:43:57] >> man this month's wattage on what on one
[00:44:00] panel this kind of wattage could toast a
[00:44:02] piece of bread lightly if properly
[00:44:04] channeled into a toaster. Like really,
[00:44:06] really well done here. Gavin Newsome
[00:44:08] showed up also. He's just making the
[00:44:11] rounds now. Gavin Newsome, he's
[00:44:12] basically doing his presidential tour
[00:44:14] now. Any place that will give him a
[00:44:15] microphone, he is. He showed up in
[00:44:18] Munich to explain that the term
[00:44:20] pluralism might be banned one day in the
[00:44:22] United States, which my dude, come on.
[00:44:26] You don't believe He doesn't believe
[00:44:27] this. He doesn't. I've met him. He
[00:44:29] doesn't believe this. This is nonsense.
[00:44:33] 27% of the state is foreignb born which
[00:44:36] is an important point. Uh we practice
[00:44:38] pluralism. That's a word uh might be
[00:44:41] even banned one day in the United States
[00:44:43] but not currently. We're a universal
[00:44:45] state.
[00:44:50] >> Really important stuff there. He also
[00:44:52] suggested that American law enforcement
[00:44:54] while he's abroad he compared them to
[00:44:56] the Nazis. Don't do. He literally said
[00:44:58] to me on his show that he shouldn't do
[00:45:00] this and then he went and he kind of did
[00:45:01] it. What?
[00:45:05] >> All those images of masked men, the
[00:45:07] secret police, something familiar in
[00:45:09] Germany.
[00:45:11] Those first images came out of my state,
[00:45:14] the second largest city in the United
[00:45:16] States of America. We saw 4,000 National
[00:45:18] Guard federalized, first time. We'd
[00:45:20] never see anything like this. and 700
[00:45:22] active duty Marines sent not overseas
[00:45:25] but to the second largest city in the
[00:45:26] United States of America.
[00:45:29] >> Ju it was just like it was just like
[00:45:30] Nazi Germany except for how it wasn't at
[00:45:32] all like Nazi Germany like at all. But
[00:45:35] but other than that exactly the same.
[00:45:38] He also then suggested that President
[00:45:39] Trump is temporary but California is
[00:45:41] reliable. Uh reliable to do what?
[00:45:45] Precisely. As a former resident I ask
[00:45:47] reliable to do what? steal more wealth
[00:45:49] from its citizens to spend on gigantic
[00:45:51] boondoggles. Okay.
[00:45:55] >> I'm here in many respects to remind
[00:45:56] everyone that Trump is temporary. He'll
[00:45:59] be gone in a matter of years. States
[00:46:01] like California are permanent. We're
[00:46:03] reliable, stable partners. Had a chance
[00:46:04] just a moment ago to be on a panel
[00:46:06] talking about climate policy. We saw
[00:46:08] what Trump just did with the
[00:46:09] endangerment finding completely rolling
[00:46:12] back progress the last half century.
[00:46:14] Wants to recreate the 19th century. And
[00:46:16] uh we want to transform our economy. We
[00:46:18] want to dominate in the next great
[00:46:20] global economy, lowcarbon green growth.
[00:46:22] And I'm reminding world leaders of that.
[00:46:25] >> Oh boy. So, uh, so low carbon green
[00:46:28] growth, more regulation and open
[00:46:30] borders, gigantic immigration.
[00:46:34] Yeah, that's going to work out well.
[00:46:35] It's worked out great for Europe.
[00:46:37] Hillary Clinton is back from the grave
[00:46:40] to to speak in Munich as well. And there
[00:46:43] she explained that President Trump had
[00:46:44] betrayed the West and human rights as
[00:46:46] well, which is a hell of a statement
[00:46:47] coming from a woman who served as
[00:46:49] Secretary of State under the Obama
[00:46:51] administration, which repeatedly
[00:46:52] abandoned our allies to the predations
[00:46:54] of our enemies.
[00:46:56] He has betrayed the West. He's betrayed
[00:47:01] human values. He's betrayed the NATO
[00:47:04] charter, the Atlantic Charter, the
[00:47:06] Universal Declaration of Human Rights. a
[00:47:09] lot of what has been done before to try
[00:47:11] to make sense of how difficult it is to
[00:47:14] restrain people who want unaccountable
[00:47:17] power. And none of us in this room,
[00:47:20] including all of us on this panel, would
[00:47:22] choose to live under a regime that was
[00:47:25] so unaccountable that it could act with
[00:47:27] impunity the way that Putin does. Except
[00:47:30] that's who Trump is modeling himself.
[00:47:32] didn't think
[00:47:35] >> Trump is modeling himself after Putin.
[00:47:37] According to Hillary Clinton, who once
[00:47:38] held a reset button that didn't say
[00:47:40] reset with Vladimir Putin, the Czech
[00:47:42] foreign minister actually challenged
[00:47:44] Hillary at one point. It got awkward.
[00:47:47] >> We saw the the cancel culture. That's
[00:47:50] the We saw the the Voke revolution. We
[00:47:53] we don't I don't agree with the gender
[00:47:56] revolution, the climate alarmism.
[00:47:58] >> What's gender? Women having their
[00:47:59] rights. No, let let Peter let Peter go
[00:48:02] on.
[00:48:03] >> I think there are two genders. So, but
[00:48:05] but some of us can some of us some of us
[00:48:09] think that there is more than one or
[00:48:10] more than two sorry more than two
[00:48:12] gender. I think there is male and female
[00:48:15] and the rest probably is a social
[00:48:17] construct. So, this is something that
[00:48:20] went too far. But does that justify
[00:48:22] selling out the people of Ukraine who
[00:48:24] are on the front lines dying to save
[00:48:27] their freedom and their two genders if
[00:48:29] that's what you're worried about?
[00:48:30] >> Can I can I please finish my points? I'm
[00:48:32] I'm sorry that uh [laughter]
[00:48:35] that makes you makes you nervous. I'm
[00:48:37] really sorry for that.
[00:48:38] >> Make me nervous. It makes me
[00:48:39] >> No, but seriously, can we let Peter
[00:48:42] finish, please?
[00:48:43] >> I have to I have
[00:48:44] >> Can we let Peter finish, please?
[00:48:47] >> Okay. Now, it is amazing how she
[00:48:49] immediately responds with rage at this.
[00:48:51] Why can't she just say, "Yes, you're
[00:48:53] right. There are men and there are women
[00:48:54] and also we should defend Ukraine." But
[00:48:55] this is the biggest problem for the
[00:48:56] Democrats. They cannot. They are a
[00:48:57] divided party. They are divided between
[00:48:59] this radical
[00:49:02] worldview about women and men and open
[00:49:05] immigration and socialism and between
[00:49:08] the real world and and they can't bridge
[00:49:10] the gap. The same Hillary Clinton who is
[00:49:12] saying that Donald Trump has betrayed
[00:49:13] the West says that America was designed
[00:49:15] for white male capitalists. I'm sorry.
[00:49:16] This is just nonsense. It's trash.
[00:49:21] >> Very often the ideological
[00:49:24] impulse to try to protect the status quo
[00:49:27] or return making America great again in
[00:49:30] some nostalgic past that existed for
[00:49:33] white men and capitalist enterprise was
[00:49:37] not exactly open and welcoming to people
[00:49:41] who look like me and a lot of other
[00:49:43] people who are part of our national
[00:49:46] fabric.
[00:49:47] I have no argument with the necessity of
[00:49:51] trying to figure out how do we form
[00:49:53] families. I'm very proud of my family.
[00:49:55] I'm proud of my three grandchildren. I
[00:49:57] am proud to be part of that tradition.
[00:50:01] That doesn't mean everybody has to be.
[00:50:03] That doesn't mean everyone who doesn't
[00:50:05] have children is somehow an illegitimate
[00:50:07] human being. So, how do we make the case
[00:50:09] in a positive way, not a bullying and
[00:50:13] very shameful way?
[00:50:16] >> Yeah. But again, the left has become
[00:50:17] famous for it bullying and shameful
[00:50:20] attacks on people who wish to form
[00:50:21] families. And by the way, yes, a society
[00:50:23] does have a stake in saying that it is
[00:50:24] better to have a family than not have a
[00:50:26] family. Yes, a society has a stake in
[00:50:28] saying it is better to have babies than
[00:50:29] not have babies.
[00:50:31] Yes, it is better for a society to say
[00:50:33] there are men and there are women and
[00:50:34] no, men cannot become women. These are
[00:50:36] things that are the fundamental basis of
[00:50:37] any growing and thriving society. And
[00:50:39] the fact that Democrats can't see this
[00:50:41] is why they keep losing over and over.
[00:50:43] Listen, even Hillary had to admit that
[00:50:45] mass migration under Joe Biden went too
[00:50:47] far because reality sometimes sets in.
[00:50:52] >> There is a legitimate reason to have a
[00:50:54] debate about things like migration. It
[00:50:58] went too far. It's been disruptive and
[00:51:01] destabilizing. And it needs to be fixed
[00:51:03] in a humane way with secure borders that
[00:51:06] don't torture and kill people.
[00:51:10] >> And don't torture and kill people. Okay.
[00:51:12] Well, speaking of retreads, the
[00:51:15] Democrats also over the weekend brought
[00:51:17] forth Barack Obama, who is back better
[00:51:19] than ever. He has decided, by the way,
[00:51:21] that he is going to use his presidential
[00:51:22] library, which is a gigantic monstrosity
[00:51:24] that looks like it's directly created by
[00:51:26] the Harkinin family in Dune. I mean, it
[00:51:28] really is horrifying looking. It looks
[00:51:29] like a gigantic
[00:51:31] monolith rising out of the Chicago
[00:51:34] skyline. It's it's it's a terror. He
[00:51:36] says his presidential library will now
[00:51:37] be used to create activists, a social
[00:51:39] change university. Yay. We're going back
[00:51:41] to community organizing for the former
[00:51:43] president.
[00:51:45] >> Young people will be exposed to world
[00:51:48] leaders who are coming through and can
[00:51:50] talk about their own journey. And what
[00:51:54] that does is it builds a community of
[00:51:57] activists and it reminds people you're
[00:52:00] not alone. You're not alone in your
[00:52:03] sorrow when you see some of the stuff
[00:52:05] that's been happening uh in this country
[00:52:08] over the last year,
[00:52:12] but you're also not alone in
[00:52:14] being able to figure out how do we push
[00:52:17] back and come up with new solutions and
[00:52:21] how do we uh remake these institutions
[00:52:24] so that they work for this generation.
[00:52:25] and and that kind of uh spirit is what
[00:52:29] we hope you know this this presidential
[00:52:33] center will will u constantly
[00:52:37] refresh and renew. Um you know that this
[00:52:41] is kind of a social change university.
[00:52:44] >> You want to know the reason why Barack
[00:52:46] Obama was a successful politician? The
[00:52:48] reason is because he spoke in platitudes
[00:52:49] non-stop all the time. Please identify
[00:52:51] the content in what he was just saying.
[00:52:53] You can't. It's not possible. It's not
[00:52:55] possible. All he does is speak in vagory
[00:52:58] and then angrily condemn things that
[00:53:00] most people don't like. That's all
[00:53:01] that's all he does. So for example, he
[00:53:04] will say that Democrats need to stop
[00:53:05] virtue signaling.
[00:53:10] >> I think there was a certain way of
[00:53:12] talking about issues for Democrats where
[00:53:16] we sounded like scolds.
[00:53:18] And I I I've said this before. Um
[00:53:24] there was there was a a a virtue
[00:53:27] signaling
[00:53:29] that made it seem as if ordinary folks
[00:53:33] if they did not say things in exactly
[00:53:36] the right way or meet this litmus test
[00:53:40] that they were being
[00:53:43] uh chastised, pushed away.
[00:53:47] And the truth is most of us, all of us
[00:53:50] are complicated and we have blind spots
[00:53:53] and sometimes we say dumb stuff and we
[00:53:57] and and
[00:53:59] if you want to create an environment
[00:54:02] that is welcoming and makes people feel
[00:54:05] okay, there's room for me here, then the
[00:54:09] message and the story we tell has to be
[00:54:13] all right, none of us are perfect. All
[00:54:15] of us count.
[00:54:18] >> Okay. I mean, again, platitude after
[00:54:20] platitude after platitude. But then, of
[00:54:21] course, he will say that it's
[00:54:22] Republicans who are divisive after the
[00:54:24] Super Bowl if they're a little miffed
[00:54:26] that the entire Super Bowl show was in
[00:54:28] Spanish and had twerking butts.
[00:54:32] The other side does
[00:54:34] the mean, angry
[00:54:37] >> demagoguery,
[00:54:38] >> you know, exclusive,
[00:54:40] us,
[00:54:43] you know, divisive politics.
[00:54:46] That's their that's that's their home
[00:54:49] court.
[00:54:50] >> Yeah.
[00:54:51] >> Our court is
[00:54:54] coming together. Our court is look, you
[00:54:58] know, a great example. Wasn't political.
[00:55:01] Bad bunnies halftime show.
[00:55:02] >> I knew you were gonna say that. Yeah.
[00:55:03] >> Well, be it. It was it it resonated. It
[00:55:07] was smart
[00:55:09] because it wasn't preaching. It was
[00:55:13] showing. It was demonstrating and
[00:55:15] displaying this is what a community is.
[00:55:20] Oh, the gaslighting. Oh, the
[00:55:21] gaslighting. Again, this is the best
[00:55:23] Democrats are going to do. The best
[00:55:24] they're going to do is have somebody who
[00:55:26] is high IQ. Barack Obama's a high IQ guy
[00:55:28] who glosses right over the top of all
[00:55:30] the politics and avoids all answers.
[00:55:32] That is the best version because if they
[00:55:33] ever get dragged down into the depths of
[00:55:35] having to define their policy, their
[00:55:37] policy makes no sense and very often is
[00:55:39] directly opposed to the interests of the
[00:55:41] United States. All they can really do is
[00:55:44] be an anti-Trump coalition. And in the
[00:55:46] end, that's all they they want to do at
[00:55:47] this moment. James Carville, he's out
[00:55:49] there suggesting that Democrats are
[00:55:51] going to win come November. They may
[00:55:52] well do that, but if they do, it will
[00:55:54] not be because they have somehow come
[00:55:56] together around a set of values
[00:55:57] Americans like.
[00:56:00] >> And never forget that if we don't
[00:56:03] develop a sense of like I don't know,
[00:56:06] you call it gallumor
[00:56:08] then the bastards have won. But they're
[00:56:10] not gonna beat us because we're gonna
[00:56:12] laugh at these mothers and we're gonna
[00:56:14] do it a lot and we're gonna laugh
[00:56:16] hardily and we're gonna laugh out loud
[00:56:18] and then we're going to beat their
[00:56:21] come November and the November after
[00:56:23] that.
[00:56:25] Well, standing for nothing will
[00:56:27] presumably be the thing that they go
[00:56:28] for. Okay. Well, we'll see how it works
[00:56:30] out for them. All righty. Coming up,
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[00:56:50] >> Okay.
[00:57:04] No, not even close. Two. Three.
[00:57:07] Whatever. You know what? Two. Three.
[00:57:11] Four.
[00:57:17] >> I cannot believe we're back here again.
[00:57:19] Ben,
[00:57:20] >> if the Ben Shapiro shows mom and Ben
[00:57:22] after dark is a cool mom.
[00:57:26] Jay,
[00:57:27] >> you know, like irresponsible. [music]
[00:57:30] [laughter]
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