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[00:00:00] We have um Mark Root or Rut or however
[00:00:02] you say his name. Rut and he is senior
[00:00:06] official with NATO. Yep. And he's at
[00:00:08] Davos and he's kind of
[00:00:10] >> I sympathize with him because you know
[00:00:12] he's clearly must be having a hard time.
[00:00:14] >> He's a NATO realist.
[00:00:15] >> He's a NATO realist. And so, but he did
[00:00:17] say something which a lot of people are
[00:00:19] not happy about. And he basically said
[00:00:21] Donald Trump is right that Greenland is
[00:00:23] strategically important. And I think
[00:00:26] he's got to make the case if you're not
[00:00:27] going to give it to him, you have to
[00:00:29] really up the defenses for it in a way
[00:00:31] that makes the security argument less
[00:00:33] credible. Let's play uh clip 332.
[00:00:36] >> We need to defend the Arctic. Uh we know
[00:00:38] that these sea lanes are opening up. We
[00:00:40] know that China and Russia are
[00:00:42] increasingly active in the Arctic. There
[00:00:44] are eight countries bordering on the
[00:00:46] Arctic. Uh seven are a member of NATO.
[00:00:48] That's Finland and Sweden and Norway and
[00:00:50] Denmark, Iceland, Canada, and the US.
[00:00:54] And there's only one country bordering
[00:00:55] on the Arctic outside NATO, and that's
[00:00:57] Russia. And I would argue there is a
[00:00:59] ninth country, which is China, which is
[00:01:01] increasingly active in the Arctic
[00:01:03] region. So, President Trump and other
[00:01:05] leaders are right. We have to do more
[00:01:07] there. We have to protect the Arctic
[00:01:09] against Russian and Chinese influence.
[00:01:12] I've had this thought. I feel like it's
[00:01:14] so frustrating. The Europeans, they have
[00:01:16] to act a certain way because they just
[00:01:18] don't like Trump a lot. And so, for
[00:01:21] example, this drama we had where they
[00:01:23] sent their troops up. Did you follow
[00:01:24] this?
[00:01:25] >> Yes. The UK Star, it was like they sent
[00:01:28] like five people.
[00:01:28] >> The best one, the best one was Germany,
[00:01:30] which sent 13 soldiers, but they didn't
[00:01:32] want to aggravate us by getting it used
[00:01:34] making it too military. So what they did
[00:01:35] is they took a big military plane and
[00:01:38] they landed it in Denmark and then they
[00:01:40] put the troops onto a commercial flight
[00:01:42] and they flew them to Denmark on the
[00:01:44] commercial plane and they stayed there
[00:01:45] for two days. They cancelled a planned
[00:01:48] uh sightseeing trip because it was too
[00:01:50] cold and then they got on a commercial
[00:01:52] flight and they flew home and they did
[00:01:55] all this as an obvious gesture. Oh,
[00:01:57] we're standing with Denmark against
[00:01:59] America. I feel like they would create a
[00:02:02] President Trump loves wins. If they
[00:02:04] really don't want to give away Denmark,
[00:02:05] what they should have just or Greenland,
[00:02:07] they should have just said, "President
[00:02:08] Trump is right. Here we're calling a
[00:02:10] meeting. Here's the 5 billion 10 billion
[00:02:14] some big amount of money and like
[00:02:15] deployment of troops we're ready to do
[00:02:17] in the Arctic and we're going to pay for
[00:02:20] it. We'll we'll pay for America to
[00:02:22] expand their bases in the Arctic. We'll
[00:02:23] pay for this Golden Dome base he wants
[00:02:25] to build. There you go." And then
[00:02:27] President Trump, he loves to tout wins.
[00:02:29] He comes back. He's like, "I made this
[00:02:30] great deal. We're expanding our bases in
[00:02:33] the Arctic and they're paying for all
[00:02:34] the you." We've seen how he does this.
[00:02:36] President Trump loves making deals on
[00:02:38] things. And it's so frustrating that
[00:02:41] they're not reacting that way and
[00:02:42] instead we're get both sides digging in
[00:02:44] their heels and we might get a renewed
[00:02:46] trade war out of this potentially.
[00:02:48] >> Yeah. I think today was a step back from
[00:02:50] that. But you know what I what probably
[00:02:52] would make sense on your line of
[00:02:54] reasoning is you do it in sort of like a
[00:02:56] Guantanamo Bay, Cuba scenario where you
[00:02:58] you know if Charlie if uh this is what
[00:03:00] Charlie would say um at least I'm I'm
[00:03:02] suspecting because Charlie went to
[00:03:04] Greenland. You know this is going in the
[00:03:06] back of my head. Charlie experienced
[00:03:08] firsthand all the love that the folks of
[00:03:10] Nuke had uh for President Trump. I think
[00:03:13] Greenlanders want their independence.
[00:03:15] They want to be able to vote on a
[00:03:16] referendum. But the point is you could
[00:03:20] you could give or sell portions of
[00:03:23] Greenland to the United States almost in
[00:03:25] a Guantanamo Bay fashion or you where we
[00:03:27] actually do own the land. It can't be
[00:03:29] taken back. Uh and you know Denmark
[00:03:32] could retain ownership of the rest. I
[00:03:33] don't think Trump would be happy with
[00:03:34] that because we do want to mine it. We
[00:03:37] do want to you know take these rare
[00:03:38] earth minerals out of it. But in defense
[00:03:41] of a strong US imperial economic
[00:03:45] military force, I just have to say I
[00:03:48] love it because Trump is calling BS on a
[00:03:51] lot of this stuff where, you know,
[00:03:53] Europe is weak. They haven't grown. The
[00:03:56] the, you know, you've got Germany that's
[00:03:58] deindustrialized itself over the last
[00:04:00] few years. Energy prices are soaring.
[00:04:03] They produce less energy than they did.
[00:04:04] I think energy prices is up like 75% in
[00:04:06] Germany and they produce 20% less than
[00:04:09] they did in 2017. Huge, huge strategic
[00:04:12] mistake. Meanwhile, President Trump's
[00:04:13] bringing in 171 18 trillion of direct
[00:04:16] investment, foreign direct investment
[00:04:18] businesses investing in the country.
[00:04:20] We've got nuclear plants, the brand new
[00:04:22] ones that are a lot safer, a lot more
[00:04:24] efficient, smaller, building those all
[00:04:26] over the country, building new plants,
[00:04:28] building new factories. GDPs could very
[00:04:31] well be over 5%. We have a lot going for
[00:04:34] us and we investing a lot in our
[00:04:36] military. All right, listen. I'd love to
[00:04:37] cut the debt. I'd love to I'd love to
[00:04:39] decrease spending. Those are Let's put
[00:04:42] those to the side. Those are problems.
[00:04:43] But there's a lot going for America that
[00:04:45] is not going for Europe. And Europe
[00:04:47] knows it. America is strong. It's
[00:04:49] aggressive. It's robust. It's muscular.
[00:04:51] Especially under President Trump. Europe
[00:04:53] is a malaise. Europe is stagnate
[00:04:55] stagnant growth. Europe has a migration
[00:04:57] pro problem that is not going away
[00:04:58] anytime soon. They lack political will.
[00:05:01] They're fighting a rise of right-wing
[00:05:03] populism and nationalism in their own
[00:05:04] countries and they're distracted and
[00:05:06] they have a fertility problem. So you've
[00:05:08] got all of these things and candidly
[00:05:11] Europe knows that they can't fight
[00:05:13] America on this. They can't even
[00:05:14] outnegotiate America on this. Trump is
[00:05:16] right to call their bluff and say you
[00:05:18] would be nothing without us. As a matter
[00:05:19] of fact, I think we have a clip that
[00:05:21] says just that that NATO would be
[00:05:24] nothing and we we asked for nothing. He
[00:05:26] kind of mentioned that before, but this
[00:05:28] is this is the truth of the of the
[00:05:30] situation. I love that President Trump
[00:05:32] is calling it. Um, you know, here's
[00:05:35] here's another clip that I think is
[00:05:37] really important here. Actually, it sort
[00:05:38] of plays into it. 329.
[00:05:41] In
[00:05:41] >> recent decades, it became conventional
[00:05:44] wisdom in Washington and European
[00:05:47] capitals that the only way to grow a
[00:05:49] modern western economy was through
[00:05:51] everinccreasing government spending.
[00:05:54] unchecked mass migration and endless
[00:05:56] foreign imports.
[00:05:59] >> So why that plays in is that Trump has
[00:06:02] reversed the trend on those pieces. We
[00:06:04] have re reverse migration. Europe has
[00:06:07] not.
[00:06:08] >> But you have to be careful. For example,
[00:06:09] he says we've never asked for anything.
[00:06:11] But the Danes certainly remember they
[00:06:13] did send troops to Afghanistan. 43 of
[00:06:16] them died there. That's a lot for a
[00:06:18] country of 5 million people. Well,
[00:06:20] >> and I mean in the whole if you humiliate
[00:06:23] your friends, you won't have as many
[00:06:25] friends in the future. Friends, the
[00:06:27] Charlie Kirk show team here. America's
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[00:07:11] We're going to turn our attention to
[00:07:13] what's happening at Davos. Now there is
[00:07:17] a very very interesting
[00:07:20] thing that we are watching happen a
[00:07:21] phenomena and there's multiple pieces to
[00:07:25] this thread that you could pull right
[00:07:27] this and and you you will you will get
[00:07:29] to something that's happening. So
[00:07:31] >> basically you've got the Greenland
[00:07:34] contention that's happening. Denmark's
[00:07:36] not happy with us. NATO is, you know,
[00:07:38] some of our NATO partners are not happy
[00:07:40] with the pressure campaign that Trump is
[00:07:43] pushing to acquire Greenland. So then
[00:07:47] all these Davos leaders go over there
[00:07:49] and they're kind of saying, "Hey, we
[00:07:51] love you the United States, but what
[00:07:53] you're doing is wrong. We made a deal.
[00:07:55] You can't add you can't add new tariffs
[00:07:58] on top of a deal that was already made."
[00:07:59] And then you've got guys like Mcronone
[00:08:02] who are messaging him behind the scenes
[00:08:04] and then it's not behind the scenes.
[00:08:05] Well, but then he goes he's he's wearing
[00:08:07] sunglasses for some reason. I don't
[00:08:08] understand this, but let's play this
[00:08:10] clip. It's a little hard to understand
[00:08:11] because of his accent, but we'll break
[00:08:12] it down on the other side. 290. China is
[00:08:15] welcome but what we need is more Chinese
[00:08:19] foreign diet investment in Europe in
[00:08:21] some key sectors to contribute to our
[00:08:22] growth to transfer some technologies and
[00:08:26] not just to export towards Europe some
[00:08:29] devices or produces or products which
[00:08:32] sometimes don't have the same standards
[00:08:35] or are much more subsidized are the one
[00:08:38] being produced in Europe.
[00:08:40] >> So you pair this with what's happening
[00:08:42] in Canada. So you got Carney that
[00:08:44] basically goes travels over to the CCP
[00:08:47] rolls they roll out the red carpet for
[00:08:48] him. Brave New Era, New World Order.
[00:08:52] China is being welcomed in by the same
[00:08:55] actors that Trump is challenging.
[00:08:57] >> So Trump is shaken up everything and now
[00:09:02] they're basically trying to fight back
[00:09:03] and say, "Well, we've had enough of the
[00:09:05] tariffs. We've had enough of the
[00:09:06] bullying. We've had enough of the
[00:09:07] Greenland stuff." So you got Carney
[00:09:10] welcoming the CC CP. Then you got French
[00:09:12] President Mcronone and I'll translate.
[00:09:14] He said China is welcome
[00:09:17] and he he de he's asking instead of just
[00:09:20] exports that have different standards,
[00:09:22] lower standards and are subsidized from
[00:09:24] China. We want you to invest in Europe.
[00:09:27] That's a huge thing to invite direct
[00:09:30] foreign direct investment in Europe.
[00:09:31] >> With the Greenland thing, an argument
[00:09:33] that's been made in support of it is
[00:09:35] basically saying Europe are they're
[00:09:37] vassels of the United States. They're
[00:09:39] just clients of the United States and
[00:09:41] Europe is they are actually quite aware
[00:09:44] that they've they've put themselves in a
[00:09:46] bad spot. They've underinvested in their
[00:09:47] military for a long time. They've messed
[00:09:49] up their own indust industry and
[00:09:51] manufacturing Germany. They've really
[00:09:54] screwed things up and they actually are
[00:09:56] kind of aware of this. This they were
[00:09:57] very aware of it during trade
[00:09:58] negotiations and they kind of recognize
[00:10:00] they're in a weak position here. But one
[00:10:02] thing that they can point out is they
[00:10:04] can say okay we are basically vassels of
[00:10:08] the United States but we could in fact
[00:10:09] go be vassels of somebody else
[00:10:12] >> and use that as our way to come back.
[00:10:15] And I think I think it is worth thinking
[00:10:17] about that that in the end we are
[00:10:19] stronger than Europe and Europe has been
[00:10:21] a free rider on this and our goal needs
[00:10:23] to be I think to and this is mentioned
[00:10:26] in our own in President Trump's national
[00:10:28] security strategy that came out a few
[00:10:30] months ago. Uh the goal needs to be that
[00:10:33] Europe has to take more responsibility
[00:10:35] for itself that we want to recultivate
[00:10:38] Europe as a viable U as more of an ally
[00:10:41] rather than just a freeloader. And
[00:10:43] that's important for any number of
[00:10:45] reasons. We talk about Islamization of
[00:10:48] the West so often on the show because it
[00:10:50] does matter. It really does matter to
[00:10:52] all of us if Britain, the birthplace of
[00:10:56] all the liberties that we care about,
[00:10:58] the birthplace ultimately the the mother
[00:11:00] country of this one, if it becomes this
[00:11:03] Islamic dump. And it matters the same
[00:11:06] way if France goes that way, if Germany
[00:11:07] goes that way, if Denmark goes that way.
[00:11:10] >> And what we want is we want them to be
[00:11:13] robust. We want them to have real
[00:11:14] militaries. We want them to have to not
[00:11:17] be having replacement migration. We want
[00:11:19] them to have real economies because we
[00:11:22] do ultimately, even if they're
[00:11:25] annoyingly liberal in a lot of ways,
[00:11:27] we'd prefer to work with them, I think,
[00:11:30] over China, like a completely alien
[00:11:34] uh culture, a completely alien mode of
[00:11:37] government, one that is far more hostile
[00:11:39] to human freedom, one that is far more
[00:11:41] hostile to religion and Christianity,
[00:11:43] >> hostile to America. Let's
[00:11:45] >> hostile to America that has a lot of
[00:11:46] grievances with us. And
[00:11:49] I I just think we should be aware of
[00:11:51] that. And we have to think about that
[00:11:52] with Canada as well. Greenland really is
[00:11:55] important to our national security, but
[00:11:57] it's also important to our national
[00:11:58] security. If Canada, the I think the
[00:12:00] largest economy in the Americas after
[00:12:02] us, if they're suddenly just
[00:12:04] >> our largest Yeah.
[00:12:05] >> If they're deciding to align with China
[00:12:06] because they decide they're just mad at
[00:12:08] us.
[00:12:08] >> Yeah. This So here's here's the
[00:12:10] question. Is this saber rattling? Is
[00:12:12] this is this a warning? Is this a
[00:12:15] warning shot? Or do they really mean it?
[00:12:17] And I think that the truth will only
[00:12:20] bear out in the coming years. I mean,
[00:12:22] we're going to have to watch to see, you
[00:12:23] know, if Macron really does want Chinese
[00:12:26] investment. You got to believe that
[00:12:28] every single chip, every single product
[00:12:30] will become a tool of espionage in that
[00:12:33] country, a tool of control. And you be
[00:12:36] careful what you wish for. France,
[00:12:39] Canada,
[00:12:40] the the UN, NATO, the these these
[00:12:44] people, they are cruel masters. the
[00:12:46] China will be cruel masters and they
[00:12:48] will extract their pound of flesh. We
[00:12:50] have been allowing Europe to freeload
[00:12:52] off of us for decades and decades.
[00:12:54] Basically, the postw World War II order
[00:12:56] is one giant story of Europe freeloading
[00:13:00] off of us. But they've been useful
[00:13:01] allies at times as well. They've also
[00:13:03] been complicit in a censorship
[00:13:06] industrial complex. They've used NATO to
[00:13:10] try and squash populist uprisings across
[00:13:12] the Western world, which is not okay.
[00:13:14] They've used u I think they've lost
[00:13:17] sight of some of their original ideals
[00:13:20] such as free speech, freedom of
[00:13:21] expression. UK is ground zero for that.
[00:13:25] There are real problems in the NATO
[00:13:26] alliance. The question is can you create
[00:13:28] something better? I don't
[00:13:30] >> I think we can well out of can you
[00:13:32] reform it or do you have to reconstitute
[00:13:35] it entirely?
[00:13:36] >> But that's the thing. I think one thing
[00:13:37] to worry about is America does have a
[00:13:40] lot of strengths that derive from how
[00:13:43] dominant we were for nearly a century at
[00:13:46] this point that after World War II we
[00:13:48] created a financial system that centers
[00:13:50] around the United States. We created a
[00:13:54] defense system that centers around the
[00:13:55] United States and we created a trade
[00:13:58] system that centered around the United
[00:13:59] States. And I think if you were creating
[00:14:02] any of those things from scratch today,
[00:14:04] we would not be as powerful in that as
[00:14:07] we basically are by virtue of inertia.
[00:14:10] So if you inspire the Europeans to even
[00:14:14] if they're just throwing a temper
[00:14:15] tantrum, they go they throw a temper
[00:14:17] tantrum and they drift away from the
[00:14:19] dollar or they drift drift away from
[00:14:20] trade with the United States, it will be
[00:14:22] harder to reconstitute that than it is
[00:14:24] to maintain it. That's a classic
[00:14:26] conservative principle. It's easier to
[00:14:28] maintain things that than it is to build
[00:14:30] them.
[00:14:31] >> Yeah. And you you you do have to look at
[00:14:32] the postw World War II order as a
[00:14:34] snapshot in time. It was a confluence of
[00:14:37] so many different variables coming
[00:14:39] together. America was largely
[00:14:41] industrialized, unscathed in many ways
[00:14:44] on the home front. Europe had to
[00:14:45] rebuild. We had a 10-year head start,
[00:14:48] maybe a 15-year head start on the rest
[00:14:50] of the world, and it entrenched us as
[00:14:51] the economic superpower.
[00:14:54] uh and um it would be harder to rebuild
[00:14:56] that now to reconstitute it.
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