BREAKING: TPUSA Throws Down The Gauntlet! Publicly Invites Me To Ask Questions. | Candace Ep 273

[00:00:00] All [00:00:00] right, you guys. It's happening. It's [00:00:02] [snorts] happening. Everybody stay calm. [00:00:04] After yesterday's episode where we went [00:00:08] kind of for the juggler with Turning [00:00:09] Point USA because really I think [00:00:11] everybody in the entire world has had [00:00:13] enough with the nonresponse, trying to [00:00:16] move on, trying to gaslight us on [00:00:18] answering basic details. So, we just [00:00:20] went for it. And guess what? Turning [00:00:21] Point has moved to formally respond to [00:00:24] all the things that we have said. And [00:00:26] after a very long diet tribe in which [00:00:28] they wildly misrepresent the public and [00:00:32] global investigation of Charlie Kirch's [00:00:34] assassination, they at long last issued [00:00:37] a public invitation or a challenge. I'm [00:00:40] not sure what it is, but I accept. Okay. [00:00:44] Quite literally, all we have ever asked [00:00:47] for were sensible answers to our basic [00:00:51] questions about what transpired on [00:00:53] September 10th. And it looks like we're [00:00:56] going to get those things. So major [00:00:58] major win. I'm excited. Also later on in [00:01:01] the show, what I have for you is The [00:01:02] Game, whose rapper is releasing a song [00:01:05] that is entitled The Assassination of [00:01:08] Candace Owens. And I have more [00:01:11] questions. I've got questions. Am I [00:01:12] allowed to have questions? Welcome back [00:01:14] to Candace. [00:01:31] What can I say other than we went max [00:01:34] pause, reflect. I'm proud of everybody. [00:01:37] I'm proud of the world. every single [00:01:39] person who was in my inbox giving me [00:01:41] tips, the people inside of Turning Point [00:01:42] USA who were leaking, the donors that [00:01:45] wrote public letters, the donors that [00:01:47] didn't write public letters but sent us [00:01:48] messages encouraging us to keep going. [00:01:52] Today feels like a win because guess [00:01:54] what? It forced Turning Point USA to [00:01:56] finally respond. And that was the entire [00:01:58] point. Okay, that has been the point of [00:02:01] refusing to let up even one second in [00:02:05] this investigation. They wanted to [00:02:07] simply be able to eulogize Charlie Kirk [00:02:09] at a big memorial event and then they [00:02:11] wanted us to simply move on and we [00:02:13] didn't do that. Okay. So yeah, we should [00:02:16] celebrate the fact that we kept up the [00:02:19] pressure that we insisted that we have [00:02:21] answers that even in this tremendous [00:02:23] culture of ADHD and everyone's [00:02:26] constantly being distracted by their [00:02:27] iPhones that we kept the focus. Okay. [00:02:31] Turning Point is going going to commit [00:02:33] to a livereamed event where they are [00:02:36] apparently going to answer all of these [00:02:38] lingering questions. And I would say [00:02:40] these were pretty basic questions right [00:02:43] out of the gate. Why they didn't do that [00:02:45] right out of the gate, nobody knows. We [00:02:48] can hear them uh their explanation for [00:02:50] why they didn't in just a moment uh [00:02:53] because they sent Blake Nef out. Blake [00:02:56] Nef, by the way, is the producer of the [00:02:58] Charlie Kirk show. Now, he is kind of [00:02:59] the rotating talent of the Charlie Kirk [00:03:01] show. He was already featured with [00:03:02] Charlie on the show, so that's not [00:03:04] unusual. But I think we probably [00:03:06] anticipated that Andrew Kulvette, who is [00:03:08] the TPUSA spokesperson, would have been [00:03:10] the person to deliver this message. [00:03:12] Maybe in theory that should have been [00:03:14] his job. Maybe he's traveling. The point [00:03:16] is, we got Blake Nef. And I want to say, [00:03:19] just to reiterate that I have always [00:03:20] maintained that whatever is going on at [00:03:22] Turning Point USA, I have not felt that [00:03:24] Blake Nef is one of the bad guys. Okay? [00:03:27] I just have never gotten that particular [00:03:29] vibe from him. I believe that when he [00:03:31] speaks, he believes that he is telling [00:03:33] the truth. And maybe that's why they [00:03:34] want him in front of the camera. He's [00:03:35] been the only person that has been [00:03:38] responding in a way that feels even [00:03:39] remotely authentic when he defends the [00:03:41] actions of Mikey McCoy on that day. I I [00:03:44] sense that he believes that he is [00:03:46] telling the truth. Anyways, let's listen [00:03:48] to what Blake Nef had to say in its [00:03:51] entirety. It's not going to feel [00:03:52] organic. Obviously, he's reading from a [00:03:54] piece of paper. This has probably been [00:03:55] been reviewed 12 times by many different [00:03:58] lawyers because that's how it works at [00:04:00] big organizations and companies. But um [00:04:03] I don't fault him that. We'll pause at [00:04:06] certain moments because I do want to be [00:04:07] able to respond throughout it. It's a [00:04:08] bit long, but I want to give them my [00:04:11] platform as I always have made that [00:04:13] offer to. So here is Blake Nef. Ever [00:04:17] since Charlie's murder, Candace Owens [00:04:20] has leveled a flood of allegations [00:04:22] against people at Turning Point USA, [00:04:25] people at Turning Point Action, and [00:04:27] people who work for this show. She has [00:04:29] made them against some of Charlie's [00:04:31] closest friends, and against some of his [00:04:32] most dedicated employees. [00:04:35] >> Yes, [00:04:35] >> she has suggested that Michael McCoy, [00:04:37] Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie [00:04:39] would be murdered, was happy that he [00:04:41] died, and stayed silent because he was [00:04:43] told he would be the next Charlie. She [00:04:46] has suggested Michael is not his real [00:04:48] name. It is I have seen his birth [00:04:50] certificate myself. She has called it [00:04:52] suspicious that Mikey's wife who works [00:04:54] at Turning Point helped plan the campus [00:04:57] tour event where Charlie was murdered [00:04:59] which she didn't by the way. She doesn't [00:05:01] work on campus events. [00:05:03] >> Okay. So, first and foremost, I actually [00:05:05] never said that she helped plan the [00:05:06] event. I said it was suspicious that [00:05:08] Mikey McCoy's wife um that we never [00:05:10] found out who did plan the event. That [00:05:12] we want that was one of the answers that [00:05:13] we wanted to know. Uh, and I said that [00:05:16] she works in events. Still was not clear [00:05:18] on what happened regarding Mikey McCoy. [00:05:20] I think the entire world believes that [00:05:22] his actions are suspicious. Uh, because [00:05:23] we have eyes and you don't get to wiggle [00:05:26] out of that by pretending that us [00:05:29] playing the words of his own father, Rob [00:05:31] McCoy, who I think is highly suspicious [00:05:34] in all of this. He has a suspicious [00:05:35] background. Uh, we played his own words [00:05:38] as he tried to sanitize someone who [00:05:41] spent time in prison for being a sexual [00:05:43] deviant, right, for trying to take [00:05:46] photos of uh, young girls. I I don't [00:05:49] think he's a good guy. And you're not [00:05:50] going to make us forget those things [00:05:52] because you are trying to pretend that [00:05:54] Mikey's actions were totally normal that [00:05:56] day. They weren't. That's why I I didn't [00:05:58] make the public feel that way. Okay. Um, [00:06:01] I may have voiced how they felt, which [00:06:03] everyone else is refusing to do, but I [00:06:06] do believe that Mikey McCoy should have [00:06:09] to answer for who he had on the phone [00:06:14] right when the shot went off. So, yeah, [00:06:17] his father, his own father is the one [00:06:19] that spoke about Charlie's notebooks and [00:06:22] spoke about how Mikey McCoy was [00:06:23] talented. And it was Mikey McCoy who [00:06:26] then jumped on Liberty University's [00:06:27] stage for an event that was scheduled [00:06:29] for Charlie Kirk. So there you go. [00:06:32] That's our perspective and I'm going to [00:06:34] stand by it. Let's keep it rolling. [00:06:38] >> Candace has suggested the Utah Valley [00:06:40] University event was unusual and its [00:06:42] details suggested a quote inside job. [00:06:47] >> It was unusual. That's a fact. And you [00:06:49] can quote me on that because I worked [00:06:51] for Turning Point USA and I went on [00:06:54] every uh tour, every tour since 2019. [00:07:00] And typically those events are decided [00:07:03] at least the semester before. This came [00:07:05] together very quickly. It is unusual and [00:07:09] I don't know why you think that you are [00:07:11] going to be able to disprove that notion [00:07:13] when I have the emails to support that [00:07:14] claim. Let's keep it rolling. She has [00:07:17] claimed that foreign aircraft have [00:07:19] followed Erica Kirk around the country [00:07:21] and that Turning Point has lied about [00:07:23] this happening. [00:07:25] >> Definitely never said Turning Point lied [00:07:27] because you never responded. So that [00:07:30] doesn't actually make any sense. And [00:07:32] this is why it's not good to have [00:07:34] lawyers write things out because [00:07:35] sometimes they're not so detail [00:07:37] oriented. Uh what we did was we showed [00:07:40] at first that when I plotted these [00:07:42] strange Egyptian jets that they were [00:07:44] following Charlie and that was a concern [00:07:46] because I wondered if they were tracking [00:07:48] Charlie. We then obviously realized that [00:07:51] they were tracking TPUSA faith events [00:07:54] and that many more times uh they were [00:07:57] following and perhaps tracking Erica. [00:08:00] You should be concerned about that. We [00:08:03] find it odd that rather than being [00:08:05] concerned or trying to get answers to [00:08:07] why a foreign military jet would be on [00:08:10] the ground during a time when Charlie [00:08:13] Kirk was assassinated, you're upset with [00:08:15] us for asking questions about these [00:08:17] jets. Let's keep rolling. [00:08:20] >> She has accused us of lying about [00:08:22] Charlie wanting Erica to take over for [00:08:24] him if he died. [00:08:27] >> Never happened. That is not a quotation. [00:08:30] That is just them saying that. Uh so [00:08:33] let's keep rolling. [00:08:35] >> She has suggested Charlie's security [00:08:37] team intentionally denied him first aid [00:08:40] after the shooting to ensure that he [00:08:41] died. [00:08:43] >> When you say suggested, it means that [00:08:45] they are interpreting my words. What I [00:08:47] said is another fact. They did not issue [00:08:50] him first aid when he fell down. There [00:08:52] was nobody who pulled out um any gauze [00:08:55] and tried to stop the bleeding. and [00:08:57] they've admitted to that. In a sitdown [00:08:59] with Shawn Ryan, Brian Harpole said it [00:09:02] was because of the severity of the [00:09:04] injury. I'm sorry again that we noticed [00:09:06] something that stood out as unusual uh [00:09:09] given the expertise and the amount of [00:09:11] money that he was paying that uh [00:09:14] supposed to be uh an elite team. Let's [00:09:18] keep rolling. [00:09:19] >> She has raised suspicions about the head [00:09:21] of our technical team because he took an [00:09:23] SD card out of a camera. She has spread [00:09:26] absurd claims that Tyler Ber, who we [00:09:29] just had on the show, sexually abuses [00:09:32] male interns. [00:09:34] >> Okay, so yes, the SD card thing is [00:09:37] unbelievably suspicious. It's not [00:09:39] something that you would do. Neither [00:09:40] would you just run up onto a grassy null [00:09:42] and record yourself. Again, these are [00:09:44] unusual actions. And rather than trying [00:09:47] to pretend like it's normal to record a [00:09:49] selfie video of yourself and to [00:09:51] prematurely announce that somebody is [00:09:53] dead, maybe you should answer why all of [00:09:56] that took place because you guys told [00:09:59] lies about verifiable lies about why [00:10:01] that took place. Because don't forget, [00:10:02] Andrew Kovette sat next to you and said [00:10:05] it was because people were stealing. [00:10:06] People were stealing. you probably would [00:10:08] want to grab the very expensive cameras [00:10:11] and not the SD card for an event that [00:10:14] was being livereamed. Regarding Tyler [00:10:16] Ber, I'm so glad we're going to do this [00:10:18] live streamed because I'm happy to [00:10:20] present to you the exact name of the [00:10:22] intern. And I didn't say that he abused [00:10:24] him. I didn't say it was not consensual. [00:10:26] I said that he likes younger boys. I [00:10:28] don't mean like younger as in they're [00:10:30] not of the legal age. I'm just saying [00:10:32] they're a lot younger than him. And [00:10:35] yeah, I can give you the exact name of [00:10:36] the intern that he hooked up with. That [00:10:39] person was not at Turning Point USA. Uh, [00:10:41] but I can also give you more than that [00:10:44] as well as people that are currently um [00:10:46] working for Turning Point USA who said [00:10:48] that Tyler Boyer and these are young men [00:10:51] tried to hook up with them after um uh [00:10:54] some events. So, I'm glad we're going to [00:10:56] live stream that. Keep going. She has [00:10:58] suggested that TPUSA faith affiliated [00:11:01] pastors like theologian Frank Turk, who [00:11:03] we'll have on in a moment, and pastor [00:11:05] Rob McCoy, are part of a military quote [00:11:08] infiltration of Turning Point, either [00:11:11] because they are veterans or because [00:11:12] they have family members who are. [00:11:15] >> Yeah. So, I do believe the Calvary [00:11:17] Chapel uh their history with Chuck [00:11:19] Smith, the evidence that it was a [00:11:21] militant CIA effort to infiltrate the [00:11:24] Christian faith uh and to tie the [00:11:26] Christian faith to the political [00:11:28] ideology of Zionism. I think there's a [00:11:30] lot of evidence for that and I'm happy [00:11:32] to discuss that in a broader debate. I [00:11:35] do think that things at Turning Point [00:11:36] USA uh became a bit problematic when you [00:11:40] started to, I would say, almost hijack [00:11:43] genuine Christian faith and sort of roll [00:11:45] it into this idea that you must support [00:11:48] Israel in order to be a Christian. [00:11:50] that's kind of floating into more [00:11:52] opinion, but I think well backed by the [00:11:54] facts of the founding of the Calvary [00:11:57] Chapel Church during uh the decade of [00:12:00] the 60s where the CIA was really just [00:12:02] spiking the ball on Christians in [00:12:04] general. Let's keep going. [00:12:06] Even if not everyone has been named [00:12:08] specifically though, Candace has [00:12:10] effectively tarred everyone here with [00:12:13] complicity in Charlie's death by [00:12:15] repeatedly saying he was quote betrayed [00:12:18] by quote everyone. [00:12:21] >> Sorry, that was a dream that I had. And [00:12:23] it is also a a realization that it has [00:12:27] been months people at Turning Point USA [00:12:30] are in possession of text messages and [00:12:32] the day before Charlie died in which he [00:12:34] wrote out to you and not just to people [00:12:36] that work at Turning Point USA but also [00:12:38] security guards that he thought that [00:12:41] they were going to kill him tomorrow [00:12:43] explicitly. I find it highly unusual uh [00:12:46] that you wouldn't share that information [00:12:49] at all or that you would sit by and be [00:12:53] quiet or at some some points attack [00:12:56] people that are trying to explore who [00:13:00] they is because I don't think anybody [00:13:01] believes that Charlie thought that a [00:13:05] trans furry kid who had never been on [00:13:07] UVU's campus was going to kill him [00:13:10] tomorrow. And your silence during [00:13:12] moments when people are lying, like Josh [00:13:15] Hammer when he said, "Hey, this never [00:13:18] happened. Charlie never blinked on [00:13:20] Israel." Makes you all look very, very [00:13:24] suspicious. Lies are only necessary. [00:13:27] Okay. When you are covering something [00:13:30] and if you are covering the truth, you [00:13:33] are betraying Charlie. So, I stand by [00:13:35] that. Let's keep going. She has said [00:13:38] Charlie's murder quote had to be [00:13:40] approved by Charlie's friends and then [00:13:42] suggested those friends might have her [00:13:44] murdered too for quote knowing the [00:13:47] truth. So you notice that's a little [00:13:49] that's like a snopes tactic when he says [00:13:51] the quote it's actually not a full [00:13:53] quotation. I never said that obviously [00:13:56] in the context that he put it in uh that [00:13:59] Charlie's friends quote had to know he [00:14:01] was going to be murdered. that did I say [00:14:03] the sentence had to know he was going to [00:14:04] be murdered perhaps but we're going to [00:14:06] need to hear the full sentence because [00:14:08] you're trying to context it in a way [00:14:09] that is just um just untrue and I don't [00:14:12] think it's necessary if you're willing [00:14:14] to have a conversation that you need to [00:14:15] lie about anything that I've said people [00:14:17] have watched the show they know exactly [00:14:19] what I've said and I I tend to stand by [00:14:21] what I've said and I do stand by [00:14:23] everything that I've said keep going [00:14:26] >> she has made claims of financial [00:14:27] impropriy and fraud at turning point [00:14:30] adding up into the millions of dollars [00:14:32] which again is not true. Charlie made [00:14:35] sure the organization was audited by a [00:14:36] third party every year. He personally [00:14:39] reviewed and he signed off on every [00:14:41] expense report and literally every [00:14:44] single bill paid by the organization [00:14:46] down to a single United States dollar. [00:14:49] We have never missed a 990 deadline. [00:14:53] >> Okay. So immorality like financial [00:14:57] impropriy does not necessarily mean that [00:15:00] you committed true financial fraud. [00:15:03] There's definitely financial impropriety [00:15:04] at the company. I would say that if you [00:15:06] are representing yourself as a charity [00:15:08] and what you're actually doing is [00:15:10] evaporating millions of dollars into [00:15:12] various LLC's [00:15:14] uh that have your name on it. That would [00:15:16] be financial impropriety, right? Like [00:15:18] you could say, "I'm a contractor. I'm [00:15:20] this LLC. I'm that LLC. I'm not doing [00:15:22] anything illegal, but it's it's [00:15:25] inappropriate. It's improper. Um, most [00:15:27] people are not able to read those forms [00:15:30] and won't understand what's happening to [00:15:31] the the $80 million. And I think that [00:15:33] those questions are of course valid and [00:15:36] that you guys should have no issues [00:15:38] answering them. Um, I am struck by the [00:15:41] fact that you're still trying to [00:15:42] conflate an annual audit with Charlie's [00:15:46] explicit request to put together a Doge [00:15:50] department 7 days before he died. These [00:15:52] are not the same. You know, they're not [00:15:53] the same. I know they're not the same. [00:15:54] Okay, everyone knows that Doge is not [00:15:56] the same as the audits that are required [00:15:59] for 501c3s, [00:16:00] um, conducting an internal audit. And [00:16:02] having you still misrepresent that makes [00:16:06] us uncomfortable. address the Doge. [00:16:10] That's got nothing to do with anything [00:16:12] other than Charlie, right? Charlie felt [00:16:15] that this needed to happen and inside [00:16:17] sources at your own company say it was [00:16:19] because he didn't know where the money [00:16:20] was coming from or how quickly and where [00:16:23] exactly the money was being evaporated [00:16:25] to. That passes the vibe check in terms [00:16:28] of what Doge is about because of course [00:16:33] Charlie could not have been establishing [00:16:34] Doge for the last 5 years because that's [00:16:36] a very new concept as of 2025. Something [00:16:40] that Trump put into place with Elon Musk [00:16:43] and Vic Ramos Swami, right? So yeah, [00:16:46] you're still being dishonest, but carry [00:16:48] on. [00:16:50] >> Candace has made other stranger [00:16:51] allegations involving French [00:16:53] paratroopers in maroon shirts. uh [00:16:55] Egyptian Air Force planes flying out of [00:16:57] Provo, Utah, and potential underground [00:16:59] assassins traveling through unseen [00:17:01] tunnels. At this at one point in early [00:17:04] November, she started wildly throwing [00:17:06] suspicion on members of Utah Valley's [00:17:09] soccer team for wearing hoodies. I could [00:17:12] go on. There is always something new [00:17:14] coming up and none of it ever pans out [00:17:17] because from the start, there has been [00:17:20] nothing there. Okay. So, no, no matter [00:17:23] how many times you keep pretending [00:17:24] there's nothing there with the Egyptian [00:17:25] planes, the whole internet understands [00:17:26] that there's something there with the [00:17:27] Egyptian planes, especially because you [00:17:29] keep pretending like it's not weird. [00:17:31] Like, you're just like, "It's not weird. [00:17:32] No, this is normal. It's totally fine [00:17:33] that these Egyptian planes uh and also, [00:17:36] by the way, today it broke that like the [00:17:40] Saudi king was this plane at some point, [00:17:42] 2023. We'll get to that later." And you [00:17:45] guys are like, "This is totally normal. [00:17:46] This is just what happens at UVU. People [00:17:48] just lay over into Wilmington, do [00:17:50] things. It's It's just so foolish. You [00:17:52] guys have got to stop the gaslighting if [00:17:54] you think your organization is going to [00:17:57] survive. I mean, some of that stuff is [00:17:59] just untrue. Saying that I went after [00:18:01] somebody for wearing a green hoodie is [00:18:03] not true at all. We never even covered [00:18:05] the green hoodie people on this show. I [00:18:08] shared a picture when somebody asked for [00:18:10] a picture because they were trying to [00:18:13] investigate and identify everyone who [00:18:14] was there, which is valid. And the [00:18:16] person wearing the green hoodie was not [00:18:17] even upset about it. He responded. So [00:18:20] that has nothing to do with me [00:18:21] whatsoever. And by the way, it would [00:18:23] probably feel better to the public if [00:18:26] you guys were the ones that were asking [00:18:28] questions about who was there on that [00:18:29] day. I completely stand by what I said [00:18:32] about the people that are wearing maroon [00:18:34] shirts. They are going to I will [00:18:36] guarantee you represent a military unit [00:18:38] somewhere. I'm very close to figuring [00:18:40] out exactly which military unit that [00:18:42] was. Again, trying to gaslight us and [00:18:45] pretend we're conspiracy theorists or [00:18:46] like that's stupid. Uh, not a good [00:18:49] long-term strategy for Turning Point [00:18:51] USA. Carry on. [00:18:52] >> The attacks and allegations from Candace [00:18:55] are either lies or they are innuendos [00:18:57] thrown around with a total reckless [00:19:00] disregard for the truth so that Candace [00:19:02] can manipulate and string along an [00:19:04] audience of people who don't realize [00:19:07] they are being played. Instead of being [00:19:09] able to grieve properly after one of the [00:19:11] most heinous murders in American [00:19:13] history, a murder many of us had to [00:19:15] witness, my friends have had to endure [00:19:18] harassment from people who have gotten [00:19:21] whipped up by what Candace is saying. In [00:19:23] fact, I would say we have suffered more [00:19:26] harassment from these people than we [00:19:28] have from Antifa supporters who overtly [00:19:31] celebrate Charlie's murder. And just [00:19:33] like a lot of those Antifa members, many [00:19:35] of these people take this delight in how [00:19:38] gross and unpleasant they can be. What [00:19:41] our friends have had to endure is not [00:19:43] funny and it's not insignificant. It is [00:19:46] evil. I have seen it. [00:19:49] >> Okay. Conflating people that are trying [00:19:51] to figure out who murdered Charlie Kirk [00:19:52] with like Antifa is actually objectively [00:19:54] funny. That's an unforced error. They [00:19:56] should not have included that in the [00:19:57] statement. Somebody in that room was [00:19:58] like, "Should we say that? Should we [00:20:00] not?" And somebody said, "No, we [00:20:01] shouldn't say that." and then you [00:20:02] somebody else in the room said no we [00:20:04] should let's keep it in that second [00:20:05] person was wrong that should have been [00:20:07] struck from the statement. It's very [00:20:08] silly. Okay, it's very silly to attack [00:20:10] your own audiences who are concerned and [00:20:12] your own donors who are concerned and [00:20:13] say you're Antifa if you don't accept [00:20:15] this absurd fed slop. If you're not [00:20:17] going to drink the fed slop, then you [00:20:18] are Antifa. Just not a good idea [00:20:22] whatsoever. Okay, that is not what's [00:20:24] happening here. You are not the victim. [00:20:26] Charlie is actually he's dead. And to [00:20:28] pretend like you are too agrieved to be [00:20:31] able to answer the questions makes [00:20:33] entirely no sense. Obviously, if you [00:20:35] were actually under a real amount of [00:20:37] stress, if you actually were deeply [00:20:40] upset that people had you on a list of [00:20:42] suspects or thought that you were [00:20:44] suspicious, you would just clarify [00:20:46] things instantly, immediately. It's so [00:20:49] easy. It's free. If someone said, [00:20:51] "Kenneth, what were you doing when [00:20:53] Charlie Kirk was shot?" I'd be like, I [00:20:54] was sitting down at my table prepping my [00:20:57] show. Like, the question doesn't offend [00:21:00] me because I had nothing to do with [00:21:01] Charlie dying. Okay, this is a [00:21:04] psychological technique that is failing. [00:21:05] It is failing for you. And you're upset [00:21:07] because you thought that with time, with [00:21:10] the passage of time, people would let [00:21:11] the story go and they didn't. And these [00:21:13] reasons that he's about to list for why [00:21:15] they didn't respond and answer any [00:21:16] questions are beyond ridiculous. Let's [00:21:18] take a listen. [00:21:20] For months, we have received hundreds, [00:21:22] thousands, I suspect, emails and calls [00:21:25] asking us to respond. [00:21:27] >> People have wanted us [00:21:28] >> to invite Candace on the show. But for a [00:21:31] long time, our approach was to say [00:21:33] nothing. We did that for several [00:21:35] reasons. First, we've first, we thought [00:21:39] that her prearications were so absurd [00:21:41] that nobody would believe them. we [00:21:43] shouldn't have to answer questions about [00:21:46] secret tunnels or Egyptian Air Force [00:21:48] planes. That sort of thing is just it's [00:21:50] beneath contempt to respond to. The [00:21:53] second reason we've said so little [00:21:55] though is because there's a good rule of [00:21:56] thumb which Charlie followed. Do not [00:21:58] feed the trolls. Focus on the mission. [00:22:01] Reviving America, uplifting young [00:22:03] people, making heaven crowded. Don't [00:22:05] give air to people who want to tear you [00:22:07] down. And so Discord. Lastly, we didn't [00:22:11] respond because [00:22:14] Charlie always viewed Candace as a [00:22:16] friend and we were holding out hope that [00:22:18] she would return that friendship and [00:22:20] stop what she was doing. [00:22:24] Okay, so the first thing he says there [00:22:26] is we didn't respond because it's [00:22:27] beneath us. Like that's just not the [00:22:30] right. I mean that is an elitist [00:22:32] attitude. It is beneath us to respond to [00:22:34] the very people who showed up in scores [00:22:38] because they were so moved by Charlie's [00:22:39] assassination that they all poured into [00:22:42] the Staples Center, right, and poured [00:22:45] their tears out and made videos and [00:22:47] donated. It is beneath us to not to then [00:22:51] respond to questions that you have that [00:22:53] are meaningful because we just think [00:22:55] it's so stupid that you would suggest [00:22:58] that the feds are involved in an [00:22:59] assassination. That's never happened in [00:23:01] American history. What? What? So that's [00:23:05] that's a ridiculous thing. The second [00:23:06] thing he says there is Charlie always [00:23:07] said, "Don't feed the trolls." Well, [00:23:08] that flies into the face of what he says [00:23:11] thereafter where he says Candace and [00:23:13] Charlie were friends. So I'm not a [00:23:15] troll. Okay? I'm not a troll. I'm not [00:23:17] trolling. I'm not someone who's hated [00:23:18] Turning Point and wanted Turning Point [00:23:20] to fail. I'm actually the exact opposite [00:23:22] of that. And that's why the people [00:23:24] believe in me and they trust me because [00:23:26] they feel that I'm the only one that's [00:23:28] acting right in the situation. Who [00:23:30] wouldn't want to have every stone [00:23:33] unturned if they cared about somebody? [00:23:35] Who wouldn't want to have every question [00:23:37] answered? Who wouldn't be immediately [00:23:39] suspicious to see Egyptian military [00:23:42] jets? Who wouldn't go, "Why the hell [00:23:45] were these jets around Turning Point way [00:23:48] before years before Charlie's [00:23:50] assassination? Who is on these jets?" [00:23:52] Instead, you're mentioning the Egyptian [00:23:54] planes for the fourth time. So, I would [00:23:56] like to recommit everybody that is [00:23:57] watching this to figuring out what the [00:23:58] hell is going on with these Egyptian [00:23:59] planes because they're nervous about [00:24:00] them. Okay, they're mentioned so many [00:24:02] times they're trying to give the vibe [00:24:04] that this is so crazy. No, they are [00:24:06] fearful. The Egyptian planes hold the [00:24:08] key and that is obvious even in Blake [00:24:10] Nef's statement. But yeah, I am not a [00:24:12] troll. Okay? And people followed what [00:24:15] felt to them as authenticity and it was [00:24:18] not you. They were not getting that from [00:24:20] Charlie's closest friends. Why is that? [00:24:23] They weren't getting that from Charlie's [00:24:26] most loved pastors. Why is that? Don't [00:24:29] blame me for the bad energy that you [00:24:32] exuded. Okay? Don't blame me for the [00:24:35] fact that you didn't pass the gut check [00:24:37] with the public. That's why you're doing [00:24:40] this. Okay? That is why you are doing [00:24:42] this because your strategy failed. In [00:24:46] fact, this is your old school turning [00:24:48] point before they put on the faith [00:24:50] pants. This is your old school turning [00:24:52] point lesson and what the free markets [00:24:54] are. The free markets saw what you were [00:24:57] offering. All right. And they saw what [00:25:00] what I was offering. You were offering [00:25:03] we should accept this and move on. And I [00:25:04] was saying we need to investigate this. [00:25:05] And the free markets said no to Turning [00:25:07] Point USA. Anyways, um let him let him [00:25:11] take this away in terms of what he [00:25:14] thought I guess was the best way to be a [00:25:17] friend to Charlie Kirk. What did he [00:25:19] think was the best way for them to show [00:25:20] that they were friends with Charlie [00:25:21] Kirk? Keep going, Blake. [00:25:23] >> But a week from now, it's going to be 3 [00:25:26] months since Charlie's murder. Candace [00:25:28] has not changed her behavior. She has [00:25:31] continued to spread falsehoods about [00:25:33] Charlie's friends, and she continues to [00:25:36] concoct new ones about new people. She's [00:25:39] using these falsehoods to enrich herself [00:25:41] while dividing the conservative movement [00:25:44] at an absolutely critical time for this [00:25:46] country. [00:25:49] I have to applaud that audacity. I have [00:25:53] to applaud it. You do. You have to [00:25:54] applaud it. [00:25:56] These Excuse me here, but like I'm [00:26:00] trying not to swear. [laughter] [00:26:04] These men, okay, this this company, [00:26:07] these amazing lads over here have the [00:26:10] audacity to accuse me of enriching [00:26:12] myself when they were out there selling [00:26:14] t-shirts. Okay. of what Charlie died in [00:26:18] to enrich themselves. Were they giving [00:26:20] those t-shirts away for free at the [00:26:22] staple centers? No, they were selling [00:26:24] kit of what Charlie died in to the tune [00:26:26] of 80 million plus dollars that they [00:26:29] made in the first three weeks. Okay? [00:26:31] They made their entire budget for the [00:26:34] year in the first couple of weeks [00:26:37] following Charlie's assassination. And [00:26:39] they are attacking me with zero proof [00:26:41] that I made a single dollar off of [00:26:44] Charlie's assassination. I did not sell [00:26:45] a cup. I did not sell a mug, okay? All I [00:26:49] did was do what I already do for a [00:26:51] living, okay? I podcast and I [00:26:54] investigate things. I investigate things [00:26:56] that I feel passionate about. Sometimes [00:26:58] it's Camala's genealogy when she's [00:27:00] saying she wants to be the president and [00:27:01] things aren't making sense and I sense [00:27:03] that she is lying. Sometimes it's Blake [00:27:05] Lively and Ryan Reynolds when they try [00:27:09] to destroy a man's life who's not even [00:27:12] on my quote unquote political team. [00:27:14] Sometimes it's Breijgit and why we are [00:27:18] colluding uh with nations to cover the [00:27:21] obvious fact that Breijgit was born a [00:27:23] male. And this time it's personal and [00:27:26] it's you. Do you want to know what all [00:27:29] of these investigations have in common? [00:27:33] liars who lie and think that the public [00:27:35] is too stupid to see through their lies. [00:27:38] That is how we got into this. Okay? I [00:27:41] did not sell anything. You did that. You [00:27:45] guys did that. You guys continued to do [00:27:47] that. You guys wanted to just move on [00:27:50] and to grift off of Charlie's legacy. I [00:27:53] dedicated myself to figuring out who [00:27:55] murdered him. So anyways, uh he does get [00:28:00] to the point here, which is that they [00:28:02] are willing to finally address things [00:28:04] headon. So I will let Blake say that. [00:28:07] And far too often we here have heard [00:28:10] from ordinary people, people who loved [00:28:12] Charlie and who Charlie loved so much in [00:28:14] return. These people have expressed the [00:28:16] worry that we are staying silent out of [00:28:18] cowardice or as some sort of tacit [00:28:20] admission that some of the attacks are [00:28:22] true. Neither is the case. Our silence [00:28:25] has never been and it will never be [00:28:28] equal to complacency or approval. Still, [00:28:33] we decided Charlie would not allow this [00:28:35] to go on. Charlie was not a coward. [00:28:38] Charlie was a fighter. Charlie would not [00:28:41] allow someone to spread lies about the [00:28:43] people closest to him with impunity. And [00:28:46] he would feel ashamed if other people [00:28:48] were stepping up to defend his friends [00:28:50] while he never did so himself. [00:28:54] Candace has mentioned several times that [00:28:56] the ball is in our court. So, here's [00:28:59] what is going to happen in the near [00:29:01] future. There will be a live stream here [00:29:03] in Phoenix where we address in a clear [00:29:06] and comprehensive way the claims and [00:29:09] accusations, the false accusations that [00:29:11] have been made against Charlie's family, [00:29:13] friends, and the people here at Turning [00:29:15] Point. We plan to walk through [00:29:17] everything carefully and thoroughly. If [00:29:19] Candace is available, we would sincerely [00:29:22] welcome her participation in that live [00:29:24] stream at our studio here in Phoenix. At [00:29:28] this point, we believe the ball is back [00:29:30] in her court. [00:29:32] Our motivation for doing this is not out [00:29:34] of any obligation to Candace. It is [00:29:37] about honoring Charlie. We feel a deep [00:29:39] responsibility to protect his legacy, [00:29:41] his work, and the truth. I feel that. I [00:29:45] owe Charlie everything in my life. it. I [00:29:48] feel it immensely [00:29:50] and that is why we feel compelled to [00:29:52] speak clearly and openly now. We'll have [00:29:56] more on this in the near future. [00:29:59] Yay! [00:30:01] Finally, you didn't have to get through [00:30:03] all that shade that you were throwing me [00:30:05] to get to the point that you were [00:30:07] willing to answer questions. Okay? [00:30:09] Because that's what Charlie did for a [00:30:11] living. How could you guys think that [00:30:14] you were just going to continue on and [00:30:16] pretend like people asking meaningful [00:30:18] questions was somehow an attack? That's [00:30:20] what he did for a living. He stood up on [00:30:22] college campuses and he debated people [00:30:25] and he sat there principally and debated [00:30:28] people because he felt that he had the [00:30:30] moral high ground. Okay? And that if [00:30:33] those people disagreed with him, he [00:30:34] could bring them over to his side. You [00:30:37] guys have been actually acting and [00:30:39] embodying the opposite of Charlie Kirk's [00:30:41] spirit. Okay? And you did it even in [00:30:43] this. It was like one big character [00:30:45] assassination. Uh and it wasn't to me. [00:30:47] That's what you guys don't understand. [00:30:49] You're not attacking me. You are [00:30:50] attacking millions of people around the [00:30:53] world who watched a man, an innocent man [00:30:57] be publicly executed and then watched [00:31:01] what felt very much like the state [00:31:04] collude to feed us absolute horseshit [00:31:08] about what took place on that day. Okay. [00:31:11] 306 bullets do not get stopped by human [00:31:15] necks because they eat healthy. They [00:31:17] don't. And yes, you guys are a part of [00:31:20] that apparatus of people who made us [00:31:22] feel and you've expressed it here like [00:31:24] you were too good to answer questions. [00:31:26] We are already said, I got on stage and [00:31:29] I told you that I'm Charlie's pastor. I [00:31:31] told you I'm his best friend. I told you [00:31:33] you guys have even allowed people to [00:31:36] inject themselves into his legacy that [00:31:39] Charlie didn't even like. And we're [00:31:41] supposed to believe you're doing this [00:31:43] because you're his friend, because [00:31:45] you're committed to truth. You sat there [00:31:48] and allowed the very people who [00:31:50] pressured Charlie towards the end of his [00:31:53] life to try to claim his whole legacy [00:31:56] and you're pretending we are the ones [00:31:57] that are immoral. You're upset because [00:31:59] you got caught lying. You're upset [00:32:01] because you got caught with your pants [00:32:02] down. But you cannot blame me for that. [00:32:04] Okay? These were your own errors. These [00:32:07] were your own lies. And I was not going [00:32:09] for a single second to let up on the [00:32:10] pressure. In fact, I have been so [00:32:12] strategic that I have been holding on to [00:32:14] certain information hoping that you [00:32:17] would acquies to have a public [00:32:18] conversation because I want to look you [00:32:19] in the eye and I want to challenge you [00:32:23] to lie to me because I care deeply about [00:32:26] what happened to Charlie on that day. I [00:32:28] don't think we're getting the truth. And [00:32:29] I do believe that because you are not [00:32:31] forthcoming about the information that [00:32:33] you have about Charlie texting you guys [00:32:35] and saying that he thought he was going [00:32:37] to be assassinated that very next day. [00:32:40] Okay. The day that he died, Charlie knew [00:32:42] that he thinks he was going to be killed [00:32:44] tomorrow. And you guys are sitting on [00:32:45] that information. So, I'm the right [00:32:47] person. Yeah. I'm the right person to [00:32:49] sit across from you and to ask you [00:32:51] questions, right? Some things that you [00:32:53] told me on that day, they're not adding [00:32:54] up. I think the entire world would like [00:32:56] to see this discussion. I think you can [00:32:59] do it in Charlie's honor. I'll sit [00:33:02] there. You pick a place and time. We [00:33:04] could have done this today, by the way. [00:33:05] You didn't have to read all that. Okay? [00:33:07] We all have tech. We could have done a [00:33:09] live stream. We could schedule a live [00:33:11] stream. We can raise money for Turning [00:33:13] Point USA. If you promise to answer [00:33:16] every question that I have, okay? And [00:33:19] it's not hard. It's it's not difficult [00:33:21] if you are telling the truth to answer [00:33:24] questions. when you are emoting so much [00:33:26] and you're upset at the inquiry and [00:33:29] you're playing this game like you're [00:33:32] David Hog and why I survived Parkland so [00:33:34] how dare you question my authority on [00:33:36] anything not a good long-term strategy [00:33:39] it's not going to be effective long term [00:33:40] and I think you're learning that lesson [00:33:41] because three months on with the entire [00:33:45] mainstream media on your side and [00:33:47] attacking me which you guys didn't even [00:33:48] stand up for me when you knew they were [00:33:50] lying about me you stayed mom that in [00:33:54] and of itself. You should be ashamed of. [00:33:58] You should be ashamed to sit across from [00:34:00] people who did everything they could to [00:34:02] stop Charlie's rise, breaking bread with [00:34:04] them and refusing to have a conversation [00:34:08] with me. And you know that I cared about [00:34:09] Charlie. [00:34:11] Have you no shame? We're going to find [00:34:13] out. You can pick the place. You can [00:34:16] pick the time. I say we do it tomorrow. [00:34:17] We don't need to plan for this. We don't [00:34:18] need lawyers in between us. Lawyer [00:34:20] statements. It's not how I roll. Okay? I [00:34:22] don't care about any of I wanted to be [00:34:24] authentic. Like I said, you can take the [00:34:26] money. You can we can raise money live [00:34:28] for this conversation. That is how badly [00:34:30] the world is demanding it. So I accept [00:34:33] it with whistles and bells. Everything I [00:34:36] fully accept. I say, "Let's do it [00:34:38] tomorrow. Let's do it tomorrow." And my [00:34:40] only ground rule is no assassinations. [00:34:43] Okay? No assassinations. No funny [00:34:45] business. You can't pretend you're going [00:34:45] to do it and then Candace died a [00:34:47] mysterious accident. Okay? 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Kits [00:37:10] are available to US residents only. [00:37:13] All right, you guys, let's get into some [00:37:15] stories. I'm laughing at the uh live [00:37:17] chat right now. They really think [00:37:18] Turning Point's going to kill me. Like, [00:37:19] don't go don't go in person. It's a [00:37:21] setup. It's a trap. I really, guys, I [00:37:23] think that they would be they would kind [00:37:26] of figure that they would be blamed for [00:37:29] that. I I think we're okay there. Um, [00:37:31] but let's start with the Pentagon [00:37:33] because this is interesting. The United [00:37:34] States Pentagon, in case you don't know, [00:37:36] is the complex that houses our [00:37:38] Department of Defense. It's a massive [00:37:40] complex, right? There is arguably no [00:37:43] more relevant building to communicating [00:37:47] to the American people about foreign [00:37:48] threats. That's what they do. Is quite [00:37:51] literally the nerve center for the [00:37:54] United States Armed Forces. It's [00:37:55] headquarters for the Army, the Navy, and [00:37:58] the Air Force. And recently, because the [00:38:01] American government wants the world to [00:38:03] no longer take us seriously as a nation [00:38:06] or something, they decided to undergo a [00:38:08] quote unquote press corps makeover [00:38:10] ostensibly to let in new independent, [00:38:13] more trusted journalists. And some of [00:38:14] them are okay. James O'Keefe obviously [00:38:16] formerly of Project Veraritoss. He's [00:38:18] very much trusted. Uh Matt Gates, I like [00:38:20] him very much. But some of the people [00:38:22] that they let in are almost the exact [00:38:24] opposite of trustworthy and are just [00:38:26] radically pro- Zionist. like they will [00:38:28] lie, steal, cheat, and figuratively [00:38:31] murder or figure, I guess, literally [00:38:34] allow Israel to murder without asking [00:38:36] any questions. And so that's why they're [00:38:37] being let in. Most notably, obviously, [00:38:39] Laura Loomer. She's totally nutty. And I [00:38:41] don't say that in a way of like I'm just [00:38:44] is an ad hom attack. I mean like she has [00:38:46] psychotic issues. uh allowing Laura [00:38:49] Loomer into a national defense complex [00:38:51] is actually sort of just an indication [00:38:53] to just how committed they are to [00:38:55] laundering the reputations of anyone as [00:38:58] long as they say I support Israel [00:38:59] because Laura Loomer is quite literally [00:39:02] so deranged that she once handcuffed [00:39:03] hers herself to the Twitter headquarters [00:39:06] because they banned her account. Okay, [00:39:08] that's like and she wore yellow star of [00:39:11] David. When I met her, she was crying [00:39:12] tears because they took away her check [00:39:14] mark. She deeply deeply cares about [00:39:17] social media in a way that is just [00:39:18] unhinged. Okay. Now, she is apparently [00:39:22] not allowed to own a gun because of [00:39:24] various psychotic events that required [00:39:27] her hospitalization. But due to her [00:39:29] commitment to Zionism, which in a [00:39:31] Zionist's defense seems like a [00:39:34] psychopathology is a prerequisite, the [00:39:37] media is now trying to mainstream her [00:39:39] and make us think that she's like a [00:39:40] serious person. So, our government, the [00:39:43] Pentagon, decide to credential her at [00:39:45] this time. She's a part of the new press [00:39:47] corps that we can trust. Laura has [00:39:50] probably been the uh one of the more [00:39:52] prominent gaslighters when it comes to [00:39:53] Charlie Kirk's assassination. Uh she [00:39:55] hated Charlie when he was alive and now [00:39:58] wants everyone to honor him by not [00:40:00] proddding the narrative surrounding his [00:40:02] death. Literally a couple of weeks [00:40:03] before he died, she called Charlie uh a [00:40:06] charlatan, a political opportunist, that [00:40:08] he wasn't proTrump simply because he [00:40:10] hosted Dave Smith, who was anti-Zionist. [00:40:14] He is also Jewish, for a debate with [00:40:16] Josh Hammer, who's a radical Zionist [00:40:18] like herself, at one of his events. [00:40:20] Charlie believed in free speech and he [00:40:22] believed in debate. And so that was her [00:40:23] reason for attacking him. Briefly [00:40:25] showing you this tweet from her. uh not [00:40:28] even worth reading in its entirety, but [00:40:30] this is the tweet that she sent out and [00:40:32] then Charlie died a couple of weeks [00:40:34] later and she completely switched and [00:40:37] now thinks that she's guarding his leg [00:40:38] legacy. Anyways, she was beside herself [00:40:41] with Glee this morning sharing news that [00:40:44] another Zionist influencer named Cam [00:40:47] Higgby, who has also now been [00:40:49] credentialed by the Pentagon, uh, [00:40:52] decided to ask the perhaps [00:40:55] billion-dollar question to the [00:40:57] Pentagon's press secretary, young woman [00:40:59] named Kingsley Wilson, about the foreign [00:41:02] angle of Charlie's assassination. Now, [00:41:05] um I obviously reported that the French [00:41:10] Foreign Legion were apparently on the [00:41:12] ground on the day of Charlie Kirk's [00:41:14] assassination. So, here is Cam Higgby, [00:41:18] who I guess is playing dress up as a [00:41:20] reporter, asking the Pentagon's press [00:41:23] secretary, [00:41:25] a question about the most viral story [00:41:29] for about a week uh pertaining to [00:41:32] France's participation in the biggest [00:41:35] political assassination that has taken [00:41:38] place since JFK. I would say I think [00:41:41] that's fair. Here's our new press corps, [00:41:44] guys. Take a listen to Actually, first [00:41:46] let's focus in on Cam Higgby's question. [00:41:49] The way he asks it is, I think, worthy [00:41:52] of highlighting. Take a listen. [00:41:54] >> Absolutely. I'm Kingsley Wilson. I'm the [00:41:56] press secretary here at the Pentagon. [00:41:57] We're in the Pentagon briefing room. Um, [00:41:59] and it's been fantastic. Get to come to [00:42:02] the Pentagon every day. And now you all [00:42:03] do as well. [00:42:04] >> Yeah. So, this is my first question, and [00:42:07] don't laugh. Does the DO have any [00:42:10] evidence at all of a French military [00:42:13] plot to assassinate Candace Owens? [00:42:18] >> Okay, here's my first question. Don't [00:42:20] laugh. It's like two girls getting their [00:42:22] nails done. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let me ask [00:42:23] Let me We're like a sleepover. Okay. [00:42:25] Okay. Okay. Okay. I have something to [00:42:26] tell you. Don't laugh. Don't laugh. [00:42:27] Don't laugh. Is this supposed Like, is [00:42:31] this supposed to make us think that this [00:42:33] is not propaganda? Are we going this is [00:42:35] cool? Is this the new strategy? All the [00:42:38] cool kids don't even ask the feds [00:42:40] questions. All the cool kids just get in [00:42:42] line and do whatever they say. All the [00:42:44] cool kids just think it's beyond crazy [00:42:46] to consider that the state would [00:42:48] assassinate people even though that's [00:42:49] what we do. That's the CIA does. We just [00:42:51] murder people around the world. But [00:42:52] that's crazy talk. And so they're going [00:42:55] to make it it's like too cool to even [00:42:56] answer. Take it away, Kingsley. [00:43:00] >> That is an interesting question. Um not [00:43:02] that I'm aware of. Uh but you know, [00:43:05] interesting question. I can try to find [00:43:07] out and maybe let you know. Uh I think [00:43:09] that might be a little more of a law [00:43:11] enforcement matter though. [00:43:13] >> No, I I think actually the Department of [00:43:14] Defense this would be a good matter for [00:43:17] you guys to take up of whether or not um [00:43:20] uh foreign governments are plotting [00:43:22] assassinations of American citizens. [00:43:24] Feels like this might be the right [00:43:26] department to me and I'm not laughing. [00:43:30] So when I say to you guys um when I [00:43:32] stress to you guys that you should not [00:43:34] be signing up for war, you should not be [00:43:36] signing up for the military, uh you [00:43:38] should not get involved in this obvious [00:43:41] war that they are planning that's coming [00:43:42] soon. This exact moment between these [00:43:46] two people is what I'm referring to. [00:43:48] It's like a rare glimpse into the [00:43:50] elitist perspective of our government. [00:43:52] Like our job I guess is to work and to [00:43:55] deposit money so that they can build [00:43:57] themselves complexes like the Pentagon [00:44:00] which is a 6.5 [00:44:03] million square foot residence office [00:44:07] building. Okay. It is the second largest [00:44:09] office building in the world. 6.5 [00:44:11] million square feet. And they built it [00:44:14] with our money so that we could have [00:44:16] some sort of an illusion of being [00:44:18] protected by our government. like we [00:44:20] could actually call them and say, "Hey, [00:44:22] I have very specific information and [00:44:24] accounts that you can trace because the [00:44:27] president played of France allegedly [00:44:31] paid $1.5 million for my assassination." [00:44:34] And by the way, I have evidence they had [00:44:36] French foreign legion on the ground day [00:44:38] that Charlie got assassinated. [00:44:41] They're not going to respond to that, [00:44:42] right? That's all supposed to be an [00:44:44] illusion. when it comes down to it, [00:44:46] getting that credible evidence uh after [00:44:49] a televised event, essentially a [00:44:51] televised event of a public execution. [00:44:55] Lol. Get back to work, slaves. We're [00:44:59] trying not to laugh at you questioning [00:45:02] whether or not a 30 odd stick can be [00:45:04] magically stopped by a human neck. How [00:45:05] dare you ask any questions or speak to [00:45:08] us about states coordinating [00:45:10] assassinations? And are you guys still [00:45:12] talking about the Epstein files? [00:45:15] That's the that's that's the attitude. [00:45:16] They think this is good PR. Like the [00:45:18] Zionist accounts are sharing this and [00:45:20] they're going, "Lol, I don't know that [00:45:23] the American government has ever been [00:45:25] more I don't know if they've ever been [00:45:27] more out of touch with the American [00:45:28] people than to see this as a they're [00:45:31] like, "Send it around the press." Haha. [00:45:33] The Pentagon is laughing at foreign [00:45:36] assassination. They don't take anything [00:45:37] seriously. Yeah, we just watched uh [00:45:38] Trump get shot at um and his ear [00:45:41] clipped. We just watched another person [00:45:43] try to assassinate Trump on the golf [00:45:45] field and then we watched Charlie Kirk [00:45:47] die publicly. But lol, I'll get back to [00:45:49] you. We'll get back to you. That's not [00:45:51] what we're here for. Get to work, [00:45:53] slaves. Again, there is no left or [00:45:55] right. It's just the elites. It's the [00:45:57] media apparatus that protects those [00:45:59] elites and then the rest of us who are [00:46:01] supposed to be slaves. Okay? The elites [00:46:03] own everything. They own everyone. And [00:46:06] if somebody actually breaks free, right? [00:46:08] If they have an individual in the matrix [00:46:12] who creates something that they cannot [00:46:15] control or buy, then there are only a [00:46:19] couple of options for that individual. [00:46:20] Okay? The state responds and they say, [00:46:22] "We will destroy you reputationally. [00:46:24] We will call you crazy, go after [00:46:26] reputation, make up allegations against [00:46:28] you. We will bankrupt you. We will [00:46:31] imprison you or we will kill you." [00:46:33] That's the reality of the world that we [00:46:34] live in. Okay? We don't live in a [00:46:36] meritocracy. It's not a free nation. you [00:46:38] ha they have to be able to control you. [00:46:40] And the timing of me speaking about this [00:46:42] is so perfect because this article [00:46:44] appeared in Fortune yesterday. This is [00:46:47] the headline inside the economics of [00:46:49] Candace Owens's media empire and the [00:46:51] Mcronone lawsuit threatening to unravel [00:46:54] it. They went with this like they're [00:46:56] proud of this. Like a lawsuit can [00:46:57] unravel what they're calling an empire [00:46:59] is actually uh just a mom from home who [00:47:02] got fired and rejected from literally [00:47:04] nations. They tried to destroy me last [00:47:06] year. They took everything. They just [00:47:08] tried to destroy my reputation, tried to [00:47:10] break my friendships, and I survived, [00:47:12] okay? And that angers them. And so this [00:47:15] article is written with such elitism, [00:47:18] the hope that the state will step in and [00:47:21] just break it, just bankrupt it. This is [00:47:23] an actual quotation. [00:47:25] The lawsuit, it read, "The lawsuit is [00:47:27] set to test whether the controversy as [00:47:31] currency that made Owens rich and gave [00:47:33] her a media brand that reaches tens of [00:47:35] millions of people can survive what [00:47:38] experts say will be an immensely costly [00:47:41] legal battle." Yeah, we're going to [00:47:44] bankrupt Candace Owens. That is our [00:47:47] intent. The experts are saying that we [00:47:49] can do it because we can't control her. [00:47:51] She wouldn't sell out, not to the [00:47:54] military complex that we live in, not to [00:47:55] big companies, not to corporations. She [00:47:57] wouldn't turn the eye uh when [00:47:59] Palestinians were being genocided by [00:48:01] Israel. And we have no other options. [00:48:04] Our we're running out of options here. [00:48:06] So, we've got to kill her or we've got [00:48:07] to bankrupt her. And we're saying we're [00:48:08] signaling that we're going to bankrupt [00:48:09] her. That's how this thing works. We're [00:48:12] telling the truth, by the way. That's [00:48:13] why I'm being sued. And they're not [00:48:15] lying. Thus far in the Breijit Mcronone [00:48:17] lawsuit, we have paid over a quarter of [00:48:20] a million dollars and we haven't even [00:48:22] had our first day in court. Okay, that's [00:48:25] the matrix. That is the matrix. And I [00:48:29] will again assert to these people, I [00:48:32] will never bow the knee to evil. I will [00:48:34] never bow uh uh the knee to bend the [00:48:38] knee rather to people that harm [00:48:40] children. You you will never see me bend [00:48:43] the knee to that ever. bankrupt me if [00:48:46] that is what makes you feel good because [00:48:48] at the end of the day it feels like we [00:48:49] are existing in a time where you are [00:48:51] only catalyzing your own demise like [00:48:53] it's people have never been more awake [00:48:55] and more in tune and the focus on [00:48:57] Charlie Kirk's assassination proves that [00:48:59] you you couldn't make that go away [00:49:01] speaking of which Charlie Kirk whose [00:49:04] death is exposing this matrix in ways [00:49:05] that I do not even think that we can [00:49:06] fully comprehend in this moment just yet [00:49:09] we asked the question and we can't find [00:49:11] the answer as to where Rajit Mcronone [00:49:13] was on the dates of the Egyptian plane [00:49:15] was flying around America just like a [00:49:17] six-day gap in Braz [00:49:20] and now of course especially as we have [00:49:22] learned about Delaware and the DuPont [00:49:25] French connection and the French Foreign [00:49:27] Legion non-answer that we're getting [00:49:29] just gaslighting that we are getting it [00:49:31] feels like an even more relevant and [00:49:34] rational question to be asking and [00:49:36] somehow made even more interesting now [00:49:40] that we know or that we've learned and [00:49:43] thanks to the internet sloo and the [00:49:44] YouTubers that put this together that an [00:49:47] hour and a half before Charlie Kirk was [00:49:49] assassinated in Utah, Donald Trump and [00:49:52] Emanuel Mcronone had a phone call that [00:49:55] has been recorded in Emanuel Mcronone's [00:49:57] public calendar which has been released. [00:49:59] You can see um that he had the phone [00:50:03] call with Donald Trump at 6 uh sorry [00:50:07] this would be 6:45 obviously p.m. in [00:50:10] French time. That's 10:45 a.m. in Utah [00:50:13] time. 10:45 a.m. Utah time is when they [00:50:18] had this phone call. And look, that [00:50:20] could be nothing. There's a lot going on [00:50:21] in the world, obviously. Uh, and we also [00:50:24] know that there's been a lot of [00:50:26] discussion about Ukraine, and there's a [00:50:28] million reasons that Emanuel Mcronone [00:50:30] and him could have had that poorly timed [00:50:33] phone call. But it would be great if a [00:50:35] press member could not lol and say, [00:50:39] "What was the nature of the phone call [00:50:40] just so that we know, right? These are [00:50:42] questions I think it's fair for us to [00:50:44] ask with everything that's coming up and [00:50:46] the lack of a true response that we're [00:50:48] getting from anyone um that has the [00:50:51] means to answer these questions. [00:50:53] Anyways, you guys, uh we're almost at [00:50:55] overtime here, but in other [00:50:56] assassination news, I wanted to mention [00:50:58] to you that The Game, who is a hip-hop [00:51:01] rapper, is releasing an album, and he [00:51:03] has a song on his track list in this [00:51:06] upcoming album that's entitled The [00:51:08] Assassination of Candace Owens. I'm [00:51:11] having like the best year ever or [00:51:13] something. I don't know. [00:51:16] [gasps] Why? Why? Why the game? Why is [00:51:21] it got to be song number 13? What's [00:51:23] going on? This better not be predictive [00:51:25] programming. Okay, we know how Hollywood [00:51:28] gets down. Okay, we're reading your [00:51:29] books. Anyways, he was asked this [00:51:31] question, this exact question. Why? And [00:51:33] he gave him an answer. And here's what [00:51:34] the game had to say. [00:51:35] >> So, you got this new mixtape dropping [00:51:38] and then there's this like one track [00:51:40] called the assassination of Candace [00:51:42] Owens. [00:51:42] >> Yeah. [00:51:43] >> Why that title? [00:51:44] >> Um cuz I think recently I've been seeing [00:51:47] like uh conspiracy theories and you know [00:51:50] about Candace Owens um from herself uh [00:51:53] self admitted um she feels like people [00:51:55] were conspiring her. So what it was is [00:51:57] more so an assassination of the [00:52:00] character. So I just use that because it [00:52:02] was like current news but it's not the [00:52:04] song is not about camp you know. [00:52:06] >> Oh okay. So it's just a little bit [00:52:08] deeper than Okay. [00:52:08] >> Yeah. I'm a rapper. We use metaphors, [00:52:10] you know. [00:52:11] >> Okay. But aren't you I mean, are you [00:52:12] worried about Candace coming for you [00:52:14] about this? I mean [00:52:15] >> uh Yeah. No, I'm not there. Nah, I'm not [00:52:17] worried about Candace. But then again, [00:52:18] you got to hear the song. [00:52:20] >> Okay. So, she'll understand if she hears [00:52:22] the song. Maybe. [00:52:23] >> I mean, the thing is she said that [00:52:26] people were trying to assassinate her. [00:52:27] So, all I did was say it too. You know [00:52:30] what I'm saying? So, again, the song is [00:52:32] not about her. But Candace Owens, man, [00:52:34] she real smart, really intelligent uh [00:52:37] woman. Well, if she comes for me, I [00:52:39] mean, you know, it is what it is. [00:52:42] >> It is what it is. There's beef in these [00:52:44] streets, okay? There's beef in these [00:52:46] streets. And you better be scared [00:52:47] because maybe I am coming for you, okay? [00:52:49] I could be coming for you. I might drop [00:52:51] a whole album. I might drop a whole [00:52:53] mixtape, too. Okay. Anyways, I think it [00:52:56] is a form of flattery. Obviously, I'm [00:52:58] friends with Yay. Um, and he makes music [00:53:01] and they do use a lot of metaphors, so [00:53:03] I'm not offended by this. Do I love the [00:53:06] timing? Could I get a break for six [00:53:08] months maybe and not have that title be [00:53:10] there? Sure. But I'm totally okay with [00:53:13] this. I think it's kind of cool. I [00:53:14] actually kind of think it's cool. I hope [00:53:15] the song lyrics are cool and it's not a [00:53:17] diss track and it's not going to be like [00:53:19] Eminem crying about me on a whole album. [00:53:21] But um I look forward to the song. I [00:53:23] hope you use also feel free to use a [00:53:25] little audio from the podcast. That [00:53:26] would be cool. You could you could use a [00:53:27] strip of me saying something. 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And I [00:57:20] think that power will wayne if we stop [00:57:24] subjecting ourself to their systems, [00:57:27] their financial systems, their peer [00:57:30] pressure systems, Hollywood, you know, [00:57:32] the adoration that we had for stars and [00:57:34] we followed their trends. And if we [00:57:36] actually studied where it all came from, [00:57:37] which is incredibly evil indoctrination, [00:57:41] quite literally doctrines of evil, which [00:57:42] is guiding that movement, um, uh, it's [00:57:45] guiding that theology rather. I spoke [00:57:47] about it more at length with Russell [00:57:48] Brandon uh on his show. So that should [00:57:51] be coming out soon. But we have to [00:57:52] become educated about where it stems [00:57:53] from. There's less of them, but they [00:57:55] have a lot of power and they have a lot [00:57:56] of a lot of influence and they have, you [00:57:58] know, blackmailed people that are in [00:58:00] powerful positions. There's definitively [00:58:02] more of us. That's why they want to kill [00:58:03] us. Obviously, that's why they want to [00:58:04] drug us and keep us dumb is because the [00:58:06] numbers are not on their side. Um so we [00:58:10] have to make sure it's not just the [00:58:11] numbers, but also that the ideology is [00:58:12] not on their side. the answer to people [00:58:14] that want less families, not because uh [00:58:17] they want you to have to be more [00:58:19] efficient and to climb the corporate [00:58:20] ladder. They just want less of you. [00:58:22] There needs to be less slaves if you [00:58:24] want to maintain control and you don't [00:58:25] want the risk of a revolution uh to come [00:58:28] down upon you. That's the that's the [00:58:29] true answer is that that's why they [00:58:30] promote all of these things. That's why [00:58:32] they want people to have less children [00:58:34] um is because they want to increase [00:58:35] their numbers while decreasing ours. And [00:58:38] so we need to be radical about not also [00:58:40] giving our children to the system. Uh if [00:58:43] you can and you can you absolutely can [00:58:46] uh homeschool your children. Pull them [00:58:48] out of the system. Don't send your kids [00:58:49] to college. Usery is another one of [00:58:51] their tactics. Don't rack up debt. I [00:58:53] made that mistake. Uh and learned [00:58:55] nothing. It's just more time for them to [00:58:57] indoctrinate your children. Be bold in [00:59:00] changing the system. Be radical in your [00:59:02] response of taking ownership over your [00:59:04] own home. That's what I would say in [00:59:05] response to that. Uh goodness wins. [00:59:08] Goodness wins. In truth, Christ has [00:59:11] already won. [00:59:13] More comments from today. Merryill [00:59:14] writes, "Careful, Candace. They may be [00:59:16] betting that you won't be available for [00:59:18] a sitdown the next few weeks. Also, [00:59:20] watch your sources. Sometimes the feds [00:59:21] plant sources sources with almost good [00:59:24] information in order to humiliate their [00:59:26] target later." Yes. Uh I'm very aware of [00:59:28] that and we are very cautious about our [00:59:30] sources and sometimes we that has [00:59:32] happened where and we haven't gone [00:59:34] fortunately we haven't made a public [00:59:35] mistake but we'll keep going and then [00:59:37] I'll be like I think this is good and [00:59:38] then Mark will be like I don't know [00:59:39] about this or Skyler be like I don't [00:59:41] know about this and that is what takes [00:59:43] us so much time every day is we're a [00:59:45] small team but we're we're constantly [00:59:47] having to debate ourselves before we put [00:59:49] something out. So thank you for that. [00:59:51] Bry writes they didn't answer any of [00:59:53] your questions. They only brought up [00:59:54] speculations that you made throughout [00:59:56] the series. I hope you don't go there in [00:59:57] person for your own safety. It is so sad [01:00:00] that we have reached a time where you [01:00:01] guys are legitimately uh concerned about [01:00:03] my safety. And I get that. I get that. I [01:00:06] feel like there is definitely something [01:00:11] military that happened when Charlie got [01:00:12] assassinated. And I think our lack of [01:00:14] comfort comes from perhaps their refusal [01:00:17] to acknowledge that. I think they their [01:00:19] response is what makes you guys feel [01:00:22] fearful. But truly, I don't think [01:00:23] Turning Point USA is so silly uh and [01:00:27] stupid that they would coordinate [01:00:29] another [laughter] [01:00:30] coordinate an assassination [01:00:32] um on their campus and then think [01:00:34] they're going to be like that just [01:00:35] happened. I don't it was all weird. She [01:00:37] ate a bad sandwich or something. But it [01:00:39] is sad. It really is a a marker of a [01:00:42] times that we live in that you guys [01:00:43] truly feel this way. Angie Lynn writes, [01:00:46] "Ta will lie about everything as they [01:00:48] have been doing. Do not trust this for [01:00:49] one second. you and your family safety, [01:00:51] money, everything is compromised. Team [01:00:53] Candace Christ is king. Uh James Gray [01:00:56] writes, "The TPUSA response seemed fake, [01:00:58] calculated, scared. That guy's body [01:00:59] language was just completely off and he [01:01:01] was literally speaking from a script." [01:01:02] Yeah, he's speaking from a script. But I [01:01:04] will say the thing that felt genuine was [01:01:05] at the very end when he said, "I owe [01:01:07] everything to I owe everything to [01:01:09] Charlie." That's when he went off [01:01:10] script. And I I don't know that they [01:01:12] remember or know how to be authentic [01:01:15] like that anymore. They're going to find [01:01:17] out. [01:01:19] uh because I'm very authentic and us [01:01:21] having a face tof face I think it's the [01:01:22] best way to answer this. Look, I came [01:01:24] from Turning Point USA. So you guys know [01:01:27] that me doing this it there's there's an [01:01:29] element of heartache. You don't go into [01:01:31] an organization and help to build it up [01:01:33] because you one day hope that uh the [01:01:35] founder of it is going to be [01:01:36] assassinated so that you can destroy it. [01:01:38] The the very thing that you helped to [01:01:40] build in a very big way. You know, I [01:01:42] contributed greatly to Turning Point [01:01:43] USA's success and they they would never [01:01:45] deny that. And so it's sad. It is really [01:01:49] sad to see the sort of elitist direction [01:01:51] that they're taking in you. Oh, we [01:01:53] thought you guys would be smarter than [01:01:54] to listen to her. Oh, you guys are [01:01:56] Antifa. What is that? It's such crap. [01:01:59] James Gray writes, uh, sorry, I already [01:02:02] read that one. Tara writes, "Licensed [01:02:04] psychotherapist here. This is obviously [01:02:06] an attempt to psychologically manipulate [01:02:08] and a terrible one at that. I would [01:02:10] gladly put my license on the line at [01:02:11] this point to help in even the smallest [01:02:13] of ways. Holding you and your family in [01:02:14] prayer, Candace, keep up the prayers. [01:02:17] Keep up the prayers. Britney Watson [01:02:20] writes, "Canis, you are not just going [01:02:21] max, you are going scorched earth." And [01:02:23] after watching Monday's episode when you [01:02:25] said that you are not some basic BI, I [01:02:28] was like, "Girl, take my money. Thank [01:02:29] you for being the world's best crime [01:02:30] fighting superhero." You know, I always [01:02:33] think back to this interview that Kanye [01:02:36] gave before I knew who he was. And I I [01:02:38] always loved Kanye. I loved his music. I [01:02:40] loved the code of his music, which is [01:02:42] you have to believe in yourself because [01:02:43] the whole world is going to tell you you [01:02:44] can't. And as soon as you step into the [01:02:46] arena and you think you've won and you [01:02:48] start having any modum of success, the [01:02:51] pressure actually only levels up. And [01:02:52] people that you thought that you would [01:02:54] be allies with, you find to be your [01:02:55] enemies. Like that's kind of the coded [01:02:57] message of Kanye's music. But there's [01:02:59] this interview that he gives where he [01:03:00] says uh somebody I don't know what they [01:03:04] asked him, but he responds and he says, [01:03:06] you know, if you're a fan of Kanye West, [01:03:07] you're not a fan of Kanye West. You're [01:03:09] actually a fan of yourself. uh you [01:03:12] believe in yourself and you think that [01:03:13] you can you can do something in this [01:03:15] world. And I feel the same way. I think [01:03:18] that the people who think that they're [01:03:20] fans of mine, you're not fans of [01:03:23] Candace. Uh you believe in yourself. You [01:03:25] believe that we can actually change [01:03:26] things and you believe that you should [01:03:28] be able to fight for truth and you're [01:03:31] not going to be influenced by people [01:03:33] that are taking money to make videos and [01:03:34] say things like there's that thing. [01:03:36] There's that spark inside of you is kind [01:03:38] of what I got when Kanye said that. It's [01:03:39] not me. It's the spark that you see in [01:03:41] me. It's the audacity to be yourself and [01:03:43] to think your own thoughts and to keep [01:03:45] going when the whole world tells you [01:03:46] tells you no. So that's [snorts] how I [01:03:49] feel. Candace go Max. I love that [01:03:51] someone picked up that name as their [01:03:53] username. Thanks for the honest [01:03:55] investigations. The truth shall set us [01:03:57] all free. Thanks for the USS Liberty [01:03:59] episode as well. Uh to this day the best [01:04:01] interview that we have ever given. Uh we [01:04:04] were all you could feel a spiritual [01:04:08] movement in this room when we [01:04:10] interviewed Phil Turney of the USS [01:04:11] Liberty. I'll never forget that [01:04:12] interview. It transformed me. It was a [01:04:14] major turning point in my life. And um I [01:04:17] thank you guys more. I mean, I'm I'm so [01:04:19] grateful to you guys and I hope you know [01:04:21] that I start all of my prayers with [01:04:23] gratitude because I started realizing [01:04:25] that sometimes when you pray, you're [01:04:27] you're asking for a lot, but if you [01:04:28] start with gratitude of the things that [01:04:30] you're thankful for, like, you know, you [01:04:32] come to God and you're like, I would [01:04:33] like I'm grateful for my health. I'm [01:04:35] grateful for this. I'm grateful. By the [01:04:36] time you get through all the things that [01:04:37] you're grateful for, you're like, man, [01:04:39] do I really want to lodge any [01:04:40] complaints? It's a good way to to pray. [01:04:42] And I always say that I am grateful for [01:04:44] the people around the world that [01:04:45] believed in me and that continue to [01:04:48] believe in me. And yeah, sometimes I [01:04:50] make mistakes. I get time zones wrong, [01:04:52] but at least you guys can see that my [01:04:54] heart is in the right place. And I [01:04:54] really do just genuinely want the [01:04:56] answers. So, uh, I'm glad that we are at [01:04:59] long last going to get them from Turning [01:05:01] Point USA. It sounds like, like I said, [01:05:03] I'll do this tomorrow. I don't have to [01:05:05] be in person. We can live stream this. I [01:05:07] think the people trust me uh to [01:05:09] represent all of the questions that we [01:05:11] have and we can have the money go to [01:05:15] Turning Point USA. Every dollar that's [01:05:16] raised, I would gladly sacrifice that uh [01:05:18] to the organization. That's how much it [01:05:20] means to just be able to get these [01:05:22] questions answered. Anyways, you guys, [01:05:25] we will see you tomorrow.