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[00:00:03] [Music] [00:00:08] What's up everyone and welcome back to [00:00:10] another edition of our Mintcast podcast [00:00:12] here at Mintress News. I am your host [00:00:15] Manar Adi. I'm the founder and director [00:00:18] of Mintress News. Now, as important as [00:00:21] the war of missiles and guns are for [00:00:24] Israel is the propaganda war for Western [00:00:27] hearts and minds. And to that end, the [00:00:29] Israeli government has increased its [00:00:31] budget for Hasbbor, Foreign Public [00:00:34] Relations, by more than 2,000%. [00:00:38] The foreign ministry alone is slated to [00:00:40] spend over $150 million this year on [00:00:44] propaganda and public relations. So [00:00:47] where does all of this money go? [00:00:49] Platforms such as Google, that's where [00:00:52] they go. Google is making gigantic [00:00:54] profits airing Israeli propaganda to [00:00:57] Europeans in searches and on YouTube. [00:01:00] Now, Google is a willing participant in [00:01:03] the slaughter and famine and as a close [00:01:07] partner of Israel, having spent tens of [00:01:09] billions propping up the faltering [00:01:12] Israeli economy. Joining me today to [00:01:15] discuss the PR war is our resident [00:01:18] propaganda expert and senior staff [00:01:20] writer um here at Mint Press News, Alan [00:01:23] Mloud. Alan has recently published [00:01:26] investigations on Mint Press News [00:01:28] studying the Israeli propaganda drive on [00:01:30] YouTube and on the close links between [00:01:33] Google and the state of Israel. Welcome [00:01:36] back, Alan. [00:01:38] >> It's great to be back with you, Manar. [00:01:42] Well, I'm always excited to speak with [00:01:43] you, Alan, because our work together has [00:01:46] always helped expose um the way in which [00:01:50] propaganda is formulated and spread out [00:01:54] across these big tech platforms and [00:01:56] broadcasted to the world. Um, your [00:01:59] recent investigation found that the [00:02:01] Israeli Foreign Ministry has spent [00:02:03] millions targeting Europeans with slick [00:02:06] ad campaigns on Google platforms. Let's [00:02:09] actually watch one of these uh videos [00:02:11] now and I want to get your reaction. [00:02:14] >> Israel launched Operation Rising Line, a [00:02:17] targeted military operation to roll back [00:02:19] the Iranian threat to Israel's very [00:02:22] survival. For decades, the tyrants of [00:02:24] Tehran have brazenly openly called for [00:02:27] Israel's destruction. They backed up [00:02:29] their genocidal rhetoric with a program [00:02:31] to develop nuclear weapons. In recent [00:02:34] years, Iran has produced enough [00:02:36] highlyenriched uranium for nine atom [00:02:38] bombs. Nine. We struck at the heart of [00:02:41] Iran's nuclear enrichment program. We [00:02:43] struck at the heart of Iran's nuclear [00:02:45] weaponization program. We targeted [00:02:47] Iran's main enrichment facility in [00:02:49] Natans. We targeted Iran's leading [00:02:51] nuclear scientists working on the [00:02:53] Iranian bomb. We also struck at the [00:02:55] heart of Iran's ballistic missile [00:02:57] program. I want to assure the civilized [00:02:59] world, we will not let the world's most [00:03:01] dangerous regime get the world's most [00:03:03] dangerous weapons. The increasing range [00:03:05] of Iran's ballistic missiles would bring [00:03:08] that nuclear nightmare to the cities of [00:03:10] Europe and eventually to America. [00:03:12] Remember, Iran calls Israel the small [00:03:14] Satan. It calls America the great Satan. [00:03:18] Never again is now. Today, Israel has [00:03:21] shown that we have learned the lessons [00:03:23] of history. When enemies vow to destroy [00:03:25] you, believe them. When enemies build [00:03:27] weapons of mass death, stop them as the [00:03:30] Bible teaches us. When someone comes to [00:03:32] kill you, rise and act first. [00:03:37] >> Wow. There's a lot there's a lot to [00:03:38] unpack in this one. I mean, we are going [00:03:40] from talking about Iran, of course, [00:03:43] that's Netanyahu's uh voice there that [00:03:45] we heard, but we're going from Iran is [00:03:47] on its way to building nine atomic bombs [00:03:50] to we have to stop Iran from building a [00:03:52] bomb. Um, and I I just love that he ends [00:03:57] with uh citing the Bible. So, let's get [00:04:00] your reaction to this, Alan. [00:04:01] >> Yeah, as you said, that's Benjamin [00:04:03] Netanyahu, prime minister of Israel [00:04:05] himself, which really shows the [00:04:07] importance of this propaganda operation [00:04:10] for the Israeli government that they [00:04:12] would enlist the prime minister of [00:04:14] Israel himself to appear in these ads. [00:04:16] that it really shows you just the sort [00:04:19] of resources that are being targeted [00:04:22] towards what Netanyahu in his own words [00:04:25] rather racistly called the civilized [00:04:27] world in that clip we just saw as if [00:04:30] Israel that's the message that Israel is [00:04:32] basically the entity which is standing [00:04:35] between the civilized world of Europe [00:04:37] and the United States and the barbarous [00:04:39] world of Iran which is trying to develop [00:04:41] a nuclear weapon in order to destroy [00:04:44] itself. Now, as you said, the Israeli [00:04:47] Ministry of Foreign Affairs, their [00:04:49] budget for PR and Hasbbor, which is what [00:04:52] they call uh PR in Israel, has grown to [00:04:55] over $150 million, which is well over [00:04:59] 2,000% raise from last year. And as we [00:05:03] saw, the content of what they put out is [00:05:05] basically that Iran represents a huge [00:05:07] threat, and it's all about justifying [00:05:09] Israel's actions to a Western audience. [00:05:12] Now, in the past few weeks alone, my um [00:05:16] my investigation found that the Israeli [00:05:19] government have managed to reach at [00:05:21] least 45 million Europeans on YouTube [00:05:25] alone. And that's just one platform and [00:05:28] one ministry, the Ministry of Foreign [00:05:29] Affairs. So, that doesn't include Google [00:05:32] um uh Google ads themselves, ads on [00:05:35] Facebook, WhatsApp, Telegram, Tik Tok, [00:05:37] whatever. and it doesn't uh it doesn't [00:05:40] host uh account for the myriad of [00:05:42] pro-Israel organizations which basically [00:05:45] pump out the same stuff. Now, you can [00:05:47] also tell that this is a highly [00:05:49] inorganic campaign because if you go to [00:05:51] the uh Israeli Ministry of Foreign [00:05:53] Affairs own YouTube channel, they also [00:05:56] have other uh ads or or videos that they [00:05:59] do not promote. and those ones receive [00:06:02] only tens of views per day rather than [00:06:05] hundreds of thousands or in fact [00:06:06] millions in some cases. So we're really [00:06:09] living through just the most enormous [00:06:12] propaganda campaign that we can really [00:06:15] envision the scale of which uh really [00:06:18] beggars belief and that's one reason [00:06:20] that really piqued my interest in this. [00:06:22] I was in Europe recently and I was just [00:06:25] bombarded with these Israeli government [00:06:27] ads every time I tried to watch a [00:06:29] YouTube clip and they were even trying [00:06:30] to reach me which I found pretty ironic. [00:06:33] So yeah, this is going on. There is a [00:06:36] battle for hearts and minds which is [00:06:38] absolutely as important to the Israeli [00:06:40] government as the battle against Iran [00:06:42] and other uh neighbors of Israel. [00:06:45] Well, it's so interesting that they're [00:06:46] spending so much money on these [00:06:50] propaganda campaign ads to, you know, [00:06:52] pull at the heartstrings of uh people [00:06:55] across Europe to get them to support uh [00:06:59] Israel's endless war machine against [00:07:02] Iran and its genocide in Gaza. Of [00:07:05] course, we all know that the war in Iran [00:07:07] is or the Israel's war against Iran is a [00:07:09] distraction from what Israel is [00:07:11] committing genocide in Gaza. But the [00:07:15] truth on the ground actually says [00:07:18] something completely different. I mean, [00:07:19] people in general, I would say humanity [00:07:23] in general are with the Palestinian [00:07:26] people and are opposed to um an expanded [00:07:30] USbacked Israeli war against Iran. Is [00:07:33] that correct? Oh, most definitely. I [00:07:35] mean, Israel is trying to target [00:07:38] European uh countries in this operation, [00:07:40] but the studies that are coming out of [00:07:42] Europe show that the people of Europe [00:07:44] are absolutely they absolutely despise [00:07:46] what Israel is doing. So, for example, [00:07:50] uh a new study from British pollster [00:07:52] Yugov actually found that only 16% of [00:07:55] Western European publics hold a [00:07:57] favorable opinion of Israel compared to [00:07:59] more than 66% expressing an unfavorable [00:08:02] view. In fact, more than 10 times as [00:08:04] many Europeans have a very unfavorable [00:08:06] view of Israel, 39.7% [00:08:09] as hold a very favorable one, which is [00:08:11] 3.5%. There was a recent poll in the [00:08:14] United Kingdom that showed that 57% of [00:08:17] the country want uh the UK to stop [00:08:19] selling arms to Israel and that 82% of [00:08:23] the public think that Israel is [00:08:24] committing a genocide in Gaza. And only [00:08:27] 6% of the British public said no, uh [00:08:30] they're not. This is pretty interesting [00:08:34] uh because this poll shows that even [00:08:37] bastions of pro-Israel support like [00:08:39] Germany uh really when you actually look [00:08:42] at what the public think uh it's really [00:08:44] not the case that the Germans are lining [00:08:46] up uh to support Israel again what we [00:08:49] see there is that only 4% of uh [00:08:52] respondents in Germany have a highly [00:08:54] positive opinion of Israel compared to [00:08:57] twothirds of the population who hold [00:08:59] unfavorable views. [00:09:01] So what's really going on right now is [00:09:03] that Israel is really bombarding us with [00:09:06] this propaganda, but they're doing that [00:09:08] precisely because the public is turning [00:09:10] against them. Uh this is really an [00:09:14] existential problem for Israel because [00:09:16] it drives its legitimacy and it uh its [00:09:19] support ultimately and its safety and [00:09:21] security from Western Europe and from [00:09:23] the United States which continually uh [00:09:26] provide economic benefits for Israel [00:09:28] help it economically, politically and [00:09:30] militarily because without support of [00:09:32] Western Europe and the United States, uh [00:09:35] this genocide simply couldn't go on for [00:09:37] even a couple of weeks longer. Well, and [00:09:39] I want to unpack the um because we have [00:09:42] another video that we're going to watch [00:09:43] um and we're going to also get your [00:09:45] reaction and my reaction from this [00:09:47] video. But before we get into that, I [00:09:49] want to unpack the other aspect of this [00:09:51] video, which is um all of these [00:09:53] accusations about nuclear weapons made [00:09:55] against Iran by BB Netanyahu himself, [00:09:58] who has been making these accusations [00:10:00] against Iran since the 1980s. But in [00:10:02] fact uh Iran has uh released a fatwa [00:10:06] which is an Islamic ruling that it is [00:10:09] forbidden to uh create a any sort of [00:10:13] nuclear weapons that it's not it's not [00:10:16] good for Iran. And so [00:10:20] talk to us more about this propaganda [00:10:22] and this kind of uh witch hunt against [00:10:24] Iran and this red herring of um of [00:10:29] nuclear weapons. [00:10:31] Well, you said it there. Uh, the [00:10:32] government of Iran has been stridently [00:10:34] against nuclear weapons ever since the [00:10:36] Islamic uh, revolution. And yet, in the [00:10:39] past few weeks and months, we've seen [00:10:41] the public start to turn on that [00:10:43] position and try to put pressure on the [00:10:45] government to develop a nuclear weapon. [00:10:47] Even some of the more secular, liberal, [00:10:49] more pro-western uh, elements within [00:10:51] Iran are now starting to heavily [00:10:53] criticize the Ayatollah's decision not [00:10:55] to pursue nuclear weapons. And the whole [00:10:58] thing is bizarre and ridiculous on its [00:11:01] face because of course there is one [00:11:03] country in the Middle East or more [00:11:05] accurately as we should call it West [00:11:07] Asia that does have nuclear weapons and [00:11:09] that is Israel. It has on the lowest [00:11:12] count around 80 nuclear weapons and some [00:11:14] people uh credible sources suggest that [00:11:17] it might be up to 200 or even slightly [00:11:19] more than 200 nuclear weapons that they [00:11:21] possess. So we've got a situation where [00:11:24] the only nuclear armed country in West [00:11:26] Asia is trying to scaremonger the world [00:11:29] to about a country which does not [00:11:31] possess nuclear weapons that they might [00:11:34] one day in the future have nuclear [00:11:35] weapons and then use them against a [00:11:38] nuclear armed state. The whole thing is [00:11:40] absurd on its face. And every time [00:11:42] Benjamin Netanyahu goes to the United [00:11:44] Nations with a big caricature of that [00:11:46] cartoon picture of a bomb and says Iran [00:11:48] is weeks or months away from developing [00:11:51] nuclear weapons, we've heard it all [00:11:52] before. We heard it in the 2010s, the [00:11:54] 2000s, the 1990s. You can go back to the [00:11:57] 1980s and see Israeli officials warning [00:12:00] that the Iranians are so close to [00:12:03] developing a nuclear weapon and we have [00:12:05] to step in. The fact of the matter is is [00:12:07] that this is a justification for what [00:12:09] they've been wanting to do for decades, [00:12:11] which is strike at Iran because Iran [00:12:13] poses a threat to Israel. It's not an [00:12:16] aggressive or military threat, but it's [00:12:18] the threat of a country that's not [00:12:20] following orders. There aren't that many [00:12:22] countries in Western Asia that are [00:12:24] actually actively trying to uh oppose [00:12:27] Israel. Frankly, you can count them on [00:12:29] the hands uh of one f uh of your fingers [00:12:32] on one hand. Unfortunately, that's the [00:12:34] case. too many of these governments are [00:12:36] actually tacitly or sometimes not even [00:12:38] so tacitly supporting what Israel is [00:12:40] doing. And so that's really the whole [00:12:42] bizarre propaganda bizarre world we live [00:12:45] in where as I said a nuclear armed [00:12:48] country uh that is threatening and [00:12:51] bombing six countries simultaneously is [00:12:53] trying to scare uh the world into [00:12:55] believing that Iran a country without [00:12:57] nuclear weapons uh is somehow a threat [00:13:00] to the world when it's actually exactly [00:13:02] the opposite going on. [00:13:04] >> Absolutely. And we know that this is all [00:13:06] a red herring to, you know, to to to [00:13:10] fearmonger about Iran, but in reality, [00:13:12] Iran poses poses an economic threat to [00:13:16] um Israel and to other countries in the [00:13:19] region for its resources. It's a very [00:13:21] self-sufficient country. Uh but most [00:13:24] importantly, it's an anti-imperialist [00:13:26] country and it's supporting resistance [00:13:27] movements in the region that are [00:13:29] standing up and pushing back against US [00:13:31] and Israeli imperialism. Um, and that's [00:13:34] why Iran truly does pose a threat to uh [00:13:38] to Israel. But of course, um, the United [00:13:40] States knows that it probably can't win [00:13:43] a war with Iran. Um, even Israel knows [00:13:47] that a war with Iran wouldn't even uh [00:13:50] work without the backing and support of [00:13:52] the United States. But the United States [00:13:53] has showed great restraint. It showed [00:13:55] that it doesn't want this war despite [00:13:58] its um you know theatrical uh missile [00:14:01] strikes against these empty nuclear uh [00:14:04] sites inside of Iran. [00:14:06] But um you know we have to wait and see [00:14:09] because you know Netanyahu just in the [00:14:10] last month has met with the Trump [00:14:12] administration to what we believe is [00:14:15] pushing [00:14:17] to convince the Trump administration to [00:14:18] push for more war uh with Iran. But [00:14:22] clearly they're not giving up. So [00:14:24] they're they're you know we watched a [00:14:27] ceasefire say called c se ceasefire but [00:14:30] Israel is clearly paying a lot of money [00:14:32] for this haz um YouTube uh propaganda [00:14:35] and I just want to remind everybody too [00:14:37] like mint press has been targeted by [00:14:40] Google through Google owl and we've been [00:14:42] suppressed we've been um delisted and [00:14:45] demoted uh blacklisted um within search [00:14:50] results while Google is now actively [00:14:52] taking this money from the state of [00:14:54] Israel from an apartheid state that is [00:14:55] engaging in genocide and pushing that [00:14:59] haz propaganda to push for war with Iran [00:15:02] which shows what is acceptable [00:15:04] um coverage on these big tech platforms [00:15:08] anti-war journalism that holds the elite [00:15:10] accountable the military class [00:15:12] accountable or war propaganda clearly [00:15:15] war propaganda is okay as long as it [00:15:18] reinforces the military-industrial [00:15:20] complex so we're going to watch this [00:15:22] next video that we've prepared and we'll [00:15:24] get your reaction to that um Alan as [00:15:26] well. [00:15:27] >> Imagine this. You're holding your [00:15:29] newborn in a hospital room. Then the air [00:15:32] raid sirens go off. Iran fires ballistic [00:15:35] missiles at hospitals, at innocent [00:15:37] Israelis, patients, doctors, newborn [00:15:40] babies deliberately targeted. While Iran [00:15:43] aims at families and children, Israel [00:15:45] responds with precision, striking [00:15:48] military sites. This is not a war of [00:15:50] choice. Those who target civilians and [00:15:53] hospitals become the target. [00:15:57] >> Uh to me it sounds like Israel suffers [00:16:00] from a syndrome called projection [00:16:02] syndrome that they would call in like [00:16:03] psychiatry wards. What do you think [00:16:05] Alan? [00:16:07] >> Yeah I mean it's interesting that we are [00:16:10] invited to think of ourselves as the [00:16:12] Israeli mother. We're not invited to [00:16:14] think of ourselves as the Palestinian [00:16:15] mother who's been forced to give birth [00:16:18] in their own home without anesthetic or [00:16:21] without any medical uh supervision [00:16:23] because most of the um hospitals in Gaza [00:16:26] have been bombed out. And so many of the [00:16:28] claims in this video are really highly [00:16:30] questionable. I mean in what's now [00:16:32] called the 12-day war in the West, uh [00:16:35] around around 935 Iranians were killed [00:16:38] compared to 28 Israelis. So the idea [00:16:41] that Israel is really being precise with [00:16:43] its strikes while while Iran bombs [00:16:46] people indiscriminately doesn't really [00:16:48] seem to be borne out by those figures. [00:16:50] In fact, since October 2023, Israel has [00:16:53] deliberately and repeatedly struck at [00:16:55] hospitals in Palestine. The World Health [00:16:58] Organization, for example, is documented [00:17:00] uh documented 697 [00:17:03] separate Israeli strikes on medical [00:17:05] facilities. Uh 94% of Gaza's hospitals [00:17:09] have been destroyed or damaged and more [00:17:11] than,400 medical personnel in Gaza have [00:17:14] been killed since October 2023. Some of [00:17:17] them in extremely gruesome ways. For [00:17:19] example, Dr. Adnan Albur who was head of [00:17:22] orthopedics at Alshifa Hospital in Gaza [00:17:25] was reportedly raped to death by Israeli [00:17:27] prison guards. Uh according to UNICEF, [00:17:29] more than 50,000 uh Palestinian children [00:17:32] have been killed or injured since [00:17:33] October 2023. [00:17:36] And recently we spoke to Wally Massie, [00:17:39] an American nurse uh who served in Gaza. [00:17:42] You should go back and watch that uh [00:17:44] interview that we did a few weeks ago. [00:17:46] He said to us that the IDF regularly [00:17:49] shoots boys in their genitals [00:17:52] specifically to prevent them from [00:17:54] reproducing in the future. So despite [00:17:56] this, Israel presents itself as like the [00:17:59] savior of the Palestinian people in [00:18:01] these uh videos, which is uh utterly [00:18:04] ridiculous. like you know they talk [00:18:05] about this is what real aid looks like. [00:18:07] We are on a humanitarian mission but it [00:18:10] is really a gross uh upending of the [00:18:13] facts on the ground and that's really [00:18:16] all the Israeli government has. It can't [00:18:18] fight on the the reality of facts and [00:18:21] logic. So it has to invent these worlds [00:18:23] where we are suddenly Israeli mothers uh [00:18:27] that are being targeted by Iran. But as [00:18:30] we've been intimating before, this is [00:18:32] not based in reality. this is propaganda [00:18:34] and we have to call it out for what it [00:18:36] is. [00:18:37] >> And I know we kind of briefly mentioned [00:18:39] this about how people on the ground [00:18:43] and just humanity in general are [00:18:45] standing with the people of Palestine [00:18:47] and they don't want this war with Iran, [00:18:52] whether it's Israel or an expanded war [00:18:54] um by the United States. People are [00:18:56] quite exhausted. Do you think any of [00:18:59] this propaganda is actually working on [00:19:01] anyone specific? [00:19:04] >> Uh, it's difficult to say really. I [00:19:06] mean, they're spending a lot of money, [00:19:07] so they must think they're getting some [00:19:09] kind of um [00:19:10] >> yeah, [00:19:10] >> some kind of benefit from it, right? Uh, [00:19:13] and I guess if you're what a lot of [00:19:15] Americans call low information voters, [00:19:18] it might it might have some sort of [00:19:19] effect. I mean, it's the same reason why [00:19:21] Benjamin Netanyahu goes on uh you know, [00:19:24] a couple of podcast bros uh uh podcast [00:19:27] and you know gets lob softball questions [00:19:30] by them. The whole point is to try to [00:19:33] present the uh the narrative in a [00:19:36] certain way that's favorable to Israel. [00:19:37] I think much more effective, frankly, is [00:19:40] all of the western uh traditional [00:19:42] mainstream media outlets who are [00:19:44] continually uh representing this uh war, [00:19:48] as they call it. It's not a war, it's a [00:19:51] genocide, as something that started on [00:19:54] October 7th, 2023. And Israel is just [00:19:56] responding to that. I think is actually [00:19:58] the much more effective propaganda [00:20:00] whereby these media outlets that present [00:20:03] themselves as bastions of truth and [00:20:05] they're just calling balls and strikes [00:20:07] and they're neutral observers when they [00:20:10] frame things as uh Hamas slaughter [00:20:13] versus Israeli response. I think that [00:20:15] actually has a much bigger and deeper [00:20:17] effect on Western publics. [00:20:20] Well, and it seems like the very uh you [00:20:23] know, more conservative or right-wing [00:20:26] base that would have normally supported [00:20:28] Israel are now turning against the state [00:20:30] of Israel. But that's not stopping [00:20:32] Israel from actually uh targeting in the [00:20:36] United States. Here, MAGA supporters. A [00:20:38] lot of MAGA supporters and influencers [00:20:41] are turning against Israel. I mean, [00:20:43] that's just a fact right now. It's it's [00:20:45] pretty wild to see this whole thing go [00:20:47] down. and the tension between these MAGA [00:20:50] influencers like Tucker Carlson, uh [00:20:52] Marjorie Taylor Green, uh Candace Owens, [00:20:56] people that have come out in support of [00:20:58] Trump and now like, you know, Trump's [00:21:00] strongest base is turning against Trump [00:21:02] and they're turning against the state of [00:21:04] Israel because they're realizing and [00:21:05] recognizing that support uh US support [00:21:09] for Israel is harming America and it's [00:21:12] targeting in fact the um this indigenous [00:21:16] Christian [00:21:18] population inside of Palestine, inside [00:21:20] of Lebanon, inside of Syria. They're [00:21:23] being attacked and targeted by Israel or [00:21:26] US backed forces um in those countries. [00:21:29] >> Yeah, I mean some Oh, sorry. [00:21:31] >> No, no, go ahead. I was just going to [00:21:32] say like but now Israel is actually kind [00:21:35] of pushing back by uh funding trips for [00:21:39] young MAGA supporters to get them to [00:21:41] support Israel and use their platforms [00:21:43] to promote Israeli propaganda. [00:21:46] Can you tell us more about that? [00:21:48] >> Yeah, that's right. I mean, for decades, [00:21:51] some the real bastion of support for [00:21:53] Israel in the United States has not [00:21:55] actually been the Jewish community. In [00:21:57] fact, if you look at polls of American [00:22:00] Jews, the plurality of young Jews under [00:22:03] 40 consider Israel itself to be a [00:22:06] racist, apartheid state. And when you [00:22:08] look at who actually voted for the [00:22:11] Muslim leftist anti- uh pro Palestine [00:22:15] candidate uh for the Democratic uh [00:22:17] nomination for mayor of New York, Sauron [00:22:19] Mandami, you look at it seems that a [00:22:22] majority of Jews in New York actually [00:22:23] voted for him rather than Cuomo or [00:22:25] someone else, which goes completely [00:22:27] against what you think if you were just [00:22:29] um relying on the New York Times or CNN [00:22:32] or or whomever. the real bastion of [00:22:34] support for Israel in the United States [00:22:36] has always been conservative Christians. [00:22:38] And that's because in their ideology, [00:22:41] they want to see the the end times being [00:22:43] brought about. And that necessitates the [00:22:46] rebirth of the state of Israel. It's [00:22:48] actually a very anti-semitic position [00:22:50] because in their crazy view of what's [00:22:53] going to happen, they actually believe [00:22:54] the righteous will ascend to heaven and [00:22:56] that's them, the Christians, and [00:22:58] everyone else, including Jewish people, [00:23:00] will be sent to hell. So, they're [00:23:01] actually wishing uh for Armageddon in [00:23:04] the apocalypse specifically because they [00:23:07] want to be uh God's chosen people and [00:23:09] for the rest of them to be cast into the [00:23:12] fiery pits of uh hell. Um as you were [00:23:15] saying though, uh MAGA is really split [00:23:17] right now and that is why uh the state [00:23:19] of Israel is really trying very hard to [00:23:22] shore up those sorts of um uh lines of [00:23:26] support. Uh they've recently announced [00:23:28] that 16 MAGA influencers uh all young [00:23:31] and all with hundreds of thousands of [00:23:33] followers on various social media [00:23:34] platforms are going to be brought to [00:23:36] Israel for a multi-day trip uh in the [00:23:39] coming weeks whereby they will be taught [00:23:42] about Israel's uh history and its [00:23:44] present and will be specifically taught [00:23:46] how to counter pro Palestine narratives [00:23:48] online. And the Israeli Ministry of [00:23:51] Foreign Affairs has actually set aside [00:23:52] money so that at least 500 different [00:23:56] influencer trips to Israel will be paid [00:23:59] for by the end of the year. And that's [00:24:01] not even clear if that's just single [00:24:03] influencers or it's actually groups of [00:24:05] influencers going over. So, we could be [00:24:07] seeing thousands of uh right-wing people [00:24:10] in the United States taking trips to [00:24:12] Israel and then suddenly paring um Tel [00:24:15] Aviv's uh propaganda lines. So, anyone [00:24:18] who watches uh right-wing media, just [00:24:20] watch out for that in the in the coming [00:24:22] months cuz it's coming [00:24:25] >> for sure. And I want to talk more about [00:24:27] uh what's happening inside of Google. Um [00:24:30] I'm not sure how many people would even [00:24:32] be surprised right now by the fact that [00:24:35] Google is allowing this content, this [00:24:37] kind of propaganda paid for by the state [00:24:39] of Israel um to be broadcasted on uh [00:24:43] Google and spread to the masses. But few [00:24:46] would know just how closely Google [00:24:49] materially [00:24:51] actually aids Israel in its destruction [00:24:53] of Palestine. So this brings me to your [00:24:56] next investigation which is on our [00:24:59] website called Whiz Acquisition puts [00:25:01] Israeli intelligence in charge of your [00:25:04] Google data. How is Google aiding [00:25:07] Israel? [00:25:08] Well, I mean, for a start, it's uh [00:25:11] taking huge amounts of money to accept [00:25:14] tens of millions of uh ads directed at [00:25:17] European publics promoting uh the state [00:25:20] of Israel, promoting narratives that [00:25:22] explicitly break Google's terms of [00:25:25] services. Uh I put this to them in [00:25:27] questions and multiple people at Google [00:25:29] said that they would get back to me and [00:25:31] they never did. Of course, uh Google's [00:25:34] terms of services specifically say that [00:25:36] you cannot justify violence in these [00:25:38] ads, but as we've seen, so many of these [00:25:41] ads say things like Israel needs is [00:25:43] doing what needs to be done. It's [00:25:44] protecting European publics. It's [00:25:46] completely ridiculous. And the amount of [00:25:48] people that getting targeted here, I [00:25:50] mean, the countries that are [00:25:51] specifically being targeted are the [00:25:52] United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, [00:25:55] and Greece. And I think Greece is a [00:25:57] really interesting uh test case here [00:26:00] because there are multiple uh ads on um [00:26:04] the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs [00:26:06] YouTube channel that have been up uh [00:26:08] just for a few days that are in Greek [00:26:11] only and have uh got more than 2 million [00:26:13] views a piece. Now the entire world [00:26:16] population of people who speak Greek is [00:26:18] only about 13 million people. So we're [00:26:21] talking about something like close to [00:26:23] 20% of all Greek speaking people have [00:26:26] been hit with these ads on YouTube [00:26:27] alone. And we're not even talking about [00:26:29] other ads on Google, on WhatsApp, [00:26:31] Telegram, Instagram, etc. So this is an [00:26:34] enormous um funneling of resources [00:26:38] towards certain publics and maybe it's [00:26:40] not working because we recently saw a [00:26:42] huge uh protest by the Greek people uh [00:26:45] blocking Israeli ships from uh docking [00:26:48] and disembarking and having all these [00:26:50] Israeli tourists/ um uh refugees come [00:26:53] aboard uh come into uh Greece to you [00:26:57] know potentially cause trouble in Greek [00:26:59] eyes. So yeah, it's very interesting [00:27:01] what's going on there. But Google itself [00:27:04] has been really at the forefront of [00:27:07] helping Israel for such a long time. [00:27:09] Quite recently, as you said in your [00:27:11] question, it bought Whiz, which is a [00:27:13] cyber security firm, for $32 billion, [00:27:17] which raised a lot of eyebrows because [00:27:20] that valuation for a company that almost [00:27:22] nobody has heard of seemed outlandish. [00:27:25] is actually 65 times the yearly revenue, [00:27:28] not profit but revenue of this country [00:27:31] uh company and just the amount of tax [00:27:34] that this allcash per uh purchase of [00:27:36] whiz uh brought to the Israeli [00:27:39] government was in the billions and in [00:27:41] fact it was calculated by Israeli media [00:27:43] that this boosted the Israeli economy uh [00:27:46] its GDP by 0.6%. [00:27:49] So a lot of people who were you know [00:27:51] watching this were wondering not so [00:27:54] quietly even quite loudly they were [00:27:56] thinking is Google actually just trying [00:27:58] to shore up the Israeli wartime economy [00:28:00] which is really on its knees but um few [00:28:04] who really studied Google's connections [00:28:06] to the Israeli government would be that [00:28:09] surprised by this. I mean, the CEO or [00:28:11] sorry, former CEO, Eric Schmidt, is [00:28:14] known as Israel's one of as one of [00:28:17] Israel's biggest supporters online and [00:28:19] offline. Google's been financially [00:28:21] invested in Israel for nearly 20 years. [00:28:23] Uh, it opened its first offices in Tel [00:28:25] Aviv in 2006. Uh, Schmidt has met with [00:28:29] Nessah at least once and he declared [00:28:31] that the decision to partner with Israel [00:28:34] was the best decision Google has ever [00:28:35] made. Um, another Google co-founder, [00:28:38] Sergey Brin, has been one of the most [00:28:41] vehement and vocal supporters of Israel, [00:28:43] denouncing even the United Nations as [00:28:46] what he called a quote transparently [00:28:48] anti-Semitic end quote uh, organization. [00:28:51] He also said that uh, he told Google [00:28:54] staff that using words like genocide to [00:28:56] describe Israeli actions in Gaza is, and [00:28:59] I'm quoting here, deeply offensive to [00:29:01] many Jewish people who have suffered [00:29:02] actual genocides. So it's very clear [00:29:05] from the top down that Google has been [00:29:10] one of Israel's most critical partners [00:29:13] for many years and this purchase of ways [00:29:16] is just another chapter in this uh sorry [00:29:18] of whiz. Um Google has bought a lot of [00:29:21] Israeli companies uh founded by um [00:29:24] Israeli secret intelligence societ uh [00:29:26] services like unit 8200 before one of [00:29:29] them is the uh mapping app ways. This [00:29:32] cyber security company [00:29:34] whiz is a little different because this [00:29:37] really gets to the heart of our user [00:29:39] data. I mean we trust Google with so [00:29:41] much data and now so much of it is going [00:29:45] to be in the hands of a cyber security [00:29:46] firm which was founded by and is still [00:29:49] staffed by unit 8200 members which is uh [00:29:53] Israel's biggest and most controversial [00:29:55] spying group. That really raises a lot [00:29:57] of questions about whether we can trust [00:30:00] Google with our personal data or whether [00:30:02] we should be moving off their platforms [00:30:04] altogether. I mean, to me, this seems [00:30:06] like a pretty big scandal. The fact that [00:30:09] a foreign country has access to all of [00:30:12] Americans data and information, their [00:30:15] maps, their text messages. I mean, [00:30:17] everything is literally now in the hands [00:30:20] of this apartheid regime. And we saw [00:30:23] what happened in Lebanon. I mean, we can [00:30:25] talk about Google and our information, [00:30:27] but look what happened in Lebanon when [00:30:29] Israel had access to Bluetooth devices [00:30:33] um to civilians in South Lebanon. They [00:30:35] say that was targeting um Hezbollah [00:30:39] fighters, right? But Israel was able to [00:30:43] hack and get into all of these Bluetooth [00:30:45] devices [00:30:47] and injure and kill and ex, you know, [00:30:51] with these devices exploding, targeting [00:30:54] so many civilians. [00:30:56] I know that this is like we're talking [00:30:57] about data and we're talking about [00:30:58] emails, but like the fact that Israel [00:31:00] has access to people's also Bluetooth [00:31:03] devices and then also their email [00:31:06] devices, you know, email platforms. Um, [00:31:08] here in the United States, we see Israel [00:31:11] doing sabotage in foreign countries and [00:31:14] we think, "Oh, that's happening over [00:31:16] there, right? We think it's happening [00:31:17] over there." But in fact, it's happening [00:31:20] here on this microcosmic [00:31:22] level that could set us up for future [00:31:27] violence. Would you agree with that? [00:31:30] Well, what I'd say is is that we don't [00:31:32] know for sure if Israel has access to [00:31:35] all this data, but we do know that [00:31:37] companies that have been founded by [00:31:40] Israeli intelligence veterans that rem [00:31:43] uh that remain very close to the Israeli [00:31:46] government and have all sorts of [00:31:47] connections to uh the Israeli military [00:31:51] and uh the Israeli intelligence uh [00:31:53] services uh do have access to this sort [00:31:56] of data and that is that should really [00:31:58] raise the hairs on your head for anyone [00:32:01] who cares about privacy, security, [00:32:04] national security. Even having these [00:32:07] foreign having these companies of a [00:32:09] foreign nation have this amount of data [00:32:12] on us really raises a lot of significant [00:32:15] questions about what the internet is [00:32:17] used for. And frankly, I think a lot of [00:32:19] countries uh should or at least study [00:32:23] the Chinese method of having a great [00:32:25] firewall and building these uh mirrored [00:32:29] platforms, these alternative platforms [00:32:31] that are domestic and can be controlled [00:32:33] as a matter of national security. And a [00:32:35] lot of countries are starting to wake up [00:32:37] to the reality that uh Silicon Valley uh [00:32:41] companies have all sorts of connections [00:32:44] to the United States government to the [00:32:46] point where sometimes it's very hard to [00:32:47] see where one ends and the other one [00:32:50] begins. So yeah, I mean to your [00:32:52] question, this era we're living in is [00:32:56] nightmarish and dysfunctional and [00:32:59] dystopian in so many ways, but a lot of [00:33:01] people who are not paying very close [00:33:04] attention to uh what's actually going on [00:33:07] uh what's going on in terms of the [00:33:08] battle for their uh for their eyeballs, [00:33:11] the battle of uh what they want to think [00:33:13] and how to think. They don't even [00:33:15] realize this is going on. And this is [00:33:17] one of the key fights of the 21st [00:33:19] century that we've all got to be [00:33:20] involved in. [00:33:21] >> Absolutely. I mean, to me, it's it just [00:33:23] seems so obvious that's that all of this [00:33:26] is a national security threat. And [00:33:29] obviously, like, yes, it's not in the [00:33:31] hands of Israel. It's in the hands of [00:33:33] Israeli spies, but these are Israeli [00:33:35] spies that have, you know, that work for [00:33:37] the state of Israel. They say they're [00:33:39] former Israeli spies, but I don't know, [00:33:41] Alan. I think once you're a spy, you [00:33:44] will always be a spy. and you know, [00:33:46] you're you're going to be dedicated to [00:33:48] the state of Israel. And I feel like [00:33:50] this is like an infiltration [00:33:52] um of these is Israeli spies within um [00:33:55] big tech to kind of keep the US hooked [00:34:00] on to Israel. So there's there's kind of [00:34:02] no way out of this relationship because, [00:34:05] you know, to think about having these [00:34:07] Israeli spies having access to all of [00:34:10] this data. I mean, not not only could [00:34:13] they set things up for maybe violence in [00:34:16] the future, but it could also [00:34:19] set people up for sabotage using their [00:34:22] secrets against them if they were to um [00:34:25] want to stand up to any sort of like US [00:34:28] foreign policy issue or Israeli issue. I [00:34:32] mean, we've seen this in the past with [00:34:33] like politicians where, you know, what [00:34:35] they've done in the bedroom is being [00:34:37] used against them. Um, and so I don't [00:34:40] know, that's that's where my thought [00:34:41] process goes. Um, when I think about [00:34:43] this, it really really is scary to [00:34:45] think. And then now we have the rise of [00:34:47] AI and AI is pulling um, information and [00:34:52] our data from probably even within our [00:34:55] email conversations and our chat [00:34:56] conversations to learn more about us. [00:35:00] It's it's it to me it's it's [00:35:02] frightening. [00:35:03] Um, and so who knows what the world is [00:35:06] going to look like for for our children, [00:35:09] you know, and our grandchildren, you [00:35:11] know, I have two boys, so I I think [00:35:13] about these things things often. And [00:35:15] like when we look at all of these uh big [00:35:17] tech platforms and even the use of AI, [00:35:21] not to go off subject here, um, but a [00:35:24] lot of the people that are engaged in [00:35:27] building AI and the infrastructure [00:35:30] behind it are also very pro-Israel. I [00:35:32] mean, that's just the truth. So, um, and [00:35:35] they're tied to these big tech [00:35:36] companies. And so, that really, um, and [00:35:38] it's becoming normalized within college [00:35:40] campuses. It's being normalized in our [00:35:42] devices and our emails and our WhatsApp [00:35:43] conversations. AI is like everywhere, [00:35:45] everywhere, everywhere. And so, all of [00:35:48] these things intertwined really is [00:35:50] setting us up for who knows what um, in [00:35:53] the near future. But I want to talk more [00:35:55] about these Israeli spies because these [00:35:57] Israeli spies are coming from Israel's [00:36:00] uh most elite spying military unit which [00:36:03] is unit 8200. Um they're the these [00:36:08] people were behind uh building Pegasus [00:36:12] and planting that in the devices of [00:36:14] people like Jamal Kosigible which um [00:36:17] helped Saudi Arabia [00:36:20] um basically assassinate him and kill [00:36:23] him. um and chop him up into pieces. I [00:36:26] mean, how horrific is that? I mean, talk [00:36:27] about having access to our data and [00:36:30] setting us up for some sort of violence [00:36:32] or some sort of sabotage. This is a [00:36:34] perfect example of that. And now these [00:36:37] spies within unit 8200 [00:36:40] um are working um inside Google. And [00:36:44] this is something that you've been [00:36:45] tracking um you've been doing uh [00:36:47] research and investigations and studies [00:36:49] for Mint Press News. We've published [00:36:51] these uh investigations on our website. [00:36:53] Of course, everybody can check them out. [00:36:55] But please do elaborate on unit 8200 [00:36:58] within big tech. Yeah, sure. So, that's [00:37:01] why it's so worrying to see so many of [00:37:03] these unit 8200 uh alumni getting jobs [00:37:06] in prestigious uh places in big tech [00:37:09] like Google, like Tik Tok, like [00:37:11] Facebook, etc. Uh unit 8200 is really [00:37:15] the centerpiece of the Israeli [00:37:17] surveillance state. Uh it for [00:37:20] Palestinians is really just a ubiquitous [00:37:22] force in their life. Palestinians every [00:37:24] day are watched uh by facial recognition [00:37:27] cameras which track their every move. [00:37:29] They are monitored uh all the texts and [00:37:33] messages they send. All the calls they [00:37:36] make are recorded and put into gigantic [00:37:39] unit 8200 databases. In fact, we know [00:37:42] now that Project Lavender has um built [00:37:45] gigantic databases of all gazins and [00:37:48] assigned them scores of between one and [00:37:50] 100. 100 being very likely to be in [00:37:53] Hamas and one being very unlikely to be [00:37:55] in Hamas. This includes women and [00:37:58] children. And if your number that is [00:38:00] assigned to you rises above a certain [00:38:03] level, you are automatically put on a [00:38:05] list to be targeted. And that is why the [00:38:09] onslaught against Gaza was so uh so [00:38:13] violent and so uh foolsome for weeks and [00:38:17] weeks uh because unit 8200 using AI uh [00:38:22] was able to get around this human [00:38:24] targeting bottleneck is what they called [00:38:26] it because this AI program just kept [00:38:29] feeding them tens of thousands of [00:38:30] different um targets to keep hitting day [00:38:34] after day after day and they only [00:38:36] stopped stopped using it when the amount [00:38:38] of people in Gaza who had just been [00:38:40] bombed out of their homes and were just [00:38:42] living on the streets or in makeshift uh [00:38:44] refugee camps became so big that their [00:38:47] data suddenly uh just couldn't be used [00:38:50] anymore. Uh, unit 8200 is also behind [00:38:53] the pager attack on Lebanon, which in [00:38:55] Israel was described as a great success, [00:38:57] but was also described as uh almost [00:39:00] universally as an act of international [00:39:02] terrorism, including by Leon Petta, the [00:39:04] former chief of the CIA, who's hardly [00:39:06] some sort of pro Palestine dove. Uh, and [00:39:09] you don't end up in uh Unit 8200 by [00:39:12] accident. It's often called Israel's [00:39:14] Harvard. Uh, it is the most elite unit [00:39:17] in the Israeli military. And parents uh [00:39:20] rich parents spend fortunes uh for their [00:39:24] teenage uh children on STEM lessons to [00:39:26] try to make it more likely that they [00:39:28] will achieve uh the scores good enough [00:39:31] to be accepted into UN800 because they [00:39:34] know that a future in Israel or even the [00:39:37] world's burgeoning tech center um will [00:39:40] await if you have this thing of unit [00:39:44] 8200 on your resume. And that's what [00:39:47] happens. Uh, big companies in Silicon [00:39:49] Valley like Google actively recruit from [00:39:52] Israel, from the Israeli military and [00:39:55] pick people out of unit 8200 to be [00:39:57] parachuted into their organizations. [00:39:59] My article, which was called revealed [00:40:02] former Israeli spies working for top [00:40:04] jobs in Google, Facebook, and Amazon, [00:40:06] found that there were at least 99 unit [00:40:09] 8200 veterans working within Google's [00:40:11] ranks. And that is very likely to be a [00:40:14] serious underestimate because under [00:40:16] Israeli law, it's actually an offense to [00:40:19] divulge that you are a part of unit 800. [00:40:21] So it's only the people who are actively [00:40:23] flouting Israeli law by putting it that [00:40:25] on their resumes that um that I was able [00:40:27] to find. And these people were a lot of [00:40:29] them were in very politically sensitive [00:40:32] fields in uh in Google's ranks. For [00:40:35] example, Gabriel Goyel, he between 2010 [00:40:38] and 2016 became head of learning. He was [00:40:41] a commander of unit 8200. And then at [00:40:44] one point he uh left unit 8200 and [00:40:47] became the head of strategy and [00:40:48] operations for Google. So he's one of [00:40:50] the highest ranking people at Google who [00:40:53] has had this career in Israeli military [00:40:56] intelligence and not even just at the [00:40:58] low levels where everyone's a private or [00:41:00] anything. This guy is a commander who [00:41:02] jump ship and worked at Google. Another [00:41:04] interesting example I find was uh Ben [00:41:06] Barak. And I do apologize to all of [00:41:09] these Israelis for butchering their [00:41:11] names, but yeah, until 2011, he was a [00:41:14] cyber intelligence officer where he [00:41:16] commanded strategic teams of elite [00:41:18] forces within unit 8200. Uh since 2016 [00:41:22] though he has worked for Google and [00:41:24] between 2020 uh 2018 and 2020 he was [00:41:27] actually controversially uh sorry he was [00:41:30] concentrating on tackling what he called [00:41:33] controversial content disinformation and [00:41:36] cyber security for Google. And I got to [00:41:39] say what sort of controversial content [00:41:42] is a former Israeli spy tracking for [00:41:44] Google? We can only um we can only [00:41:47] speculate because Google is very tight [00:41:49] lipped about this stuff. But I think [00:41:52] perhaps we don't need to have a PhD in [00:41:54] math to put two and two together here [00:41:56] and understand that something very fishy [00:41:59] is going on. Something that we all have [00:42:01] to be looking at because this affects [00:42:02] everyone. Everyone uses Google whether [00:42:04] they like it or not. This affects all of [00:42:07] us all around the world. So we should [00:42:09] all be paying attention to this. [00:42:12] And Alan, you don't need to apologize [00:42:14] for butchering these Israeli spies [00:42:16] names. They're literally butchering our [00:42:18] people. So, um I don't think an apology [00:42:21] is necessary necessary on that. Um we [00:42:24] just have a couple of minutes left and I [00:42:26] want to end with talking about Elon [00:42:28] Musk's uh Space X. Um because it's [00:42:31] actually related to what we're talking [00:42:33] about. Um and it's not just Google who [00:42:35] are waste deep in Israel's wars in the [00:42:37] Middle East. It's also Elon Musk's uh [00:42:40] Space X. People like to think of Musk as [00:42:42] being like this like you know outsider [00:42:44] rebellious person but in fact he's quite [00:42:47] uh close to the Israeli establishment. [00:42:49] So if we can and it relate this also [00:42:51] relates to the war against uh Iran. So [00:42:54] we just have like 3 minutes left. So can [00:42:56] you elaborate on Musk's meddling in Iran [00:42:59] that is benefiting Israel? [00:43:02] >> Well check out the article I wrote [00:43:04] Starlink Secret War. How Musk is [00:43:05] powering a covert campaign against Iran. [00:43:08] Musk obviously presents himself as this [00:43:10] outsider, but his career and his company [00:43:14] is a really birthed by the CIA. Star um [00:43:17] SpaceX itself, which uh controls [00:43:20] Starlink, wouldn't have gotten off the [00:43:21] ground without huge help from Mike [00:43:23] Griffin, who was the head of Incel, uh [00:43:26] the CIA's venture capitalist uh wing. uh [00:43:29] Mike Griffin went to the CIA and pounded [00:43:32] his uh arm uh pounded his fist on the [00:43:34] table and said Elon Musk is the future [00:43:36] Henry Ford of the rocket industry and he [00:43:38] has held Musk's hand every inch of the [00:43:41] way throughout his uh est throughout his [00:43:45] development as a big tech entrepreneur. [00:43:47] In fact, so close to Musk is he that [00:43:49] Elon Musk named his first child Griffin [00:43:52] Musk after Mike Griffin. And he named [00:43:54] his uh that child he had which was like [00:43:56] X12 AE or whatever that was named after [00:43:59] a CIA bomber as well. And Griffin has [00:44:02] constantly pied Musk with government [00:44:05] contracts uh for years. Uh in terms of [00:44:08] Iran, uh during the what's called the [00:44:12] 12-day war, Iran tried to shut down the [00:44:14] internet and close it off for national [00:44:16] security reasons. And Musk announced [00:44:18] that he had actually managed in the past [00:44:20] couple of years to smuggle or helped [00:44:22] smuggle 20,000 Starlink uh satellite [00:44:26] internet dishes into uh Iran, which was [00:44:28] helping Iranian activists and uh Iranian [00:44:32] agents helping Western nations [00:44:34] communicate and coordinate for any sort [00:44:37] of regime change attempt on Iran. This [00:44:39] is not the first time Musk has actually [00:44:41] um uh been used in this method. He's [00:44:45] also very much helped the US war effort [00:44:47] in Ukraine as well. They say Ukrainian [00:44:50] forces can't even fire many of their [00:44:51] high-tech weapons without Starlink. So [00:44:54] Musk is absolutely at the heart of the [00:44:56] militaryindustrial complex whether he [00:44:59] likes to present himself that way or [00:45:00] not. [00:45:01] >> And we'll do another segment on Elon [00:45:03] Musk and SpaceX. We'll elaborate more. [00:45:06] But clearly uh you know on the outside [00:45:08] when we were being told like oh SpaceX [00:45:10] is helping activists on the ground um [00:45:12] you know inside of Iran it sounds like [00:45:15] really nice like cool we're helping [00:45:16] people stand up to their you know to [00:45:18] their government to their authoritarian [00:45:20] government but in reality uh the United [00:45:23] States has been engaging in sabotage in [00:45:26] inside of Iran and um you know I don't [00:45:28] think Iranians need this white savior to [00:45:32] send them satellites so they can [00:45:33] overthrow their government. that is what [00:45:36] the US and Israel want. That's part of [00:45:38] their agenda. It's been their agenda for [00:45:40] quite some time and um it's not some [00:45:44] thing that we can look at um from a [00:45:47] positive perspective and say, "Wow, look [00:45:48] what Elon Musk is doing." Um yeah, I [00:45:52] just don't see that as anything sort of [00:45:54] positive. It just benefits uh the [00:45:56] capitalists. It benefits um the regime [00:45:59] change architects that want to see uh [00:46:02] Iran fall. Anyways, Alan, um, thank you [00:46:06] so much for joining us today. We're [00:46:07] going to continue this conversation next [00:46:08] time. Um, we'll expand more on Elon Musk [00:46:11] and perhaps talk more about this whole [00:46:13] Jeffrey Epstein scandal. I was hoping to [00:46:15] do a podcast about that, but we will do [00:46:16] it in a couple of weeks when I'm back [00:46:18] from my trip. So, thank you so much, [00:46:20] Alan. And everybody can check those [00:46:22] investigations out on our website.