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[00:00:00] The DOJ has now arrested Don Lemon. Left [00:00:03] says it's because he was journalisming. [00:00:05] The uh the DOJ says no, it's because he [00:00:07] was actually organizing violation of the [00:00:09] law. We'll bring you all the latest. [00:00:10] Plus, the latest from Minneapolis. And [00:00:12] the president selects a new Fed chair. [00:00:14] We'll go into his economic theories. Are [00:00:16] they good? Are they bad? First, if you [00:00:18] need something to watch this weekend, I [00:00:19] have excellent news. Matt Walsh has now [00:00:21] dropped a brand new series. It's called [00:00:22] Real History with Matt Walsh. It starts [00:00:24] with the real history of slavery. Is it [00:00:26] controversial? Well, the left certainly [00:00:28] thinks so. filled with facts that [00:00:30] schools and institutions have left out [00:00:32] of their education for decades. 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Well, Don Lemon has been [00:01:30] arrested, the former CNN talking [00:01:32] head/host [00:01:34] who went out on his own and formed his [00:01:37] own podcast and who then either trailed [00:01:39] or was involved with a protest that [00:01:42] pretty clearly violated the Face Act, [00:01:45] which was designed to guarantee access [00:01:47] to abortion clinics for people who [00:01:49] didn't want to go through protests and [00:01:52] also designed to protect churches in [00:01:54] their actual attempts to perform their [00:01:57] services. Well, it turns out that he has [00:01:59] now been arrested by federal agents. The [00:02:02] federal government had been targeting [00:02:04] Lemon ever since he went at very least [00:02:07] handin glove with these protesters to a [00:02:10] church in order to disrupt services. [00:02:12] According to the New York Times, the [00:02:13] former CNN anchor Don Lemon was arrested [00:02:15] late Thursday night on charges he [00:02:16] violated federal law during a protest at [00:02:18] a church in St. Paul, Minnesota. Now, [00:02:20] that case had been rejected last week by [00:02:22] a magistrate judge. Lemon claims that he [00:02:25] was simply reporting as a journalist [00:02:26] when he entered the city's church [00:02:27] January 18th to observe a demonstration [00:02:29] against immigration crackdowns in the [00:02:31] area. The protesters then got up and [00:02:33] disrupted the service where an ICE [00:02:36] official serves as a pastor chanting ICE [00:02:39] out. The Trump administration tried to [00:02:41] charge eight people over the episode, [00:02:43] including Lemon. The magistrate judge [00:02:46] approved charges against three of the [00:02:48] eight people and rejected the evidence [00:02:49] against Lemon and the others as [00:02:50] insufficient. So the DOJ petitioned a [00:02:53] federal appellet court to force the [00:02:54] judge to issue the additional warrants. [00:02:56] They were denied. Abby Lel is the lawyer [00:02:59] for Don Lemon, sort of a lawyer to the [00:03:02] political stars. He put out a statement, [00:03:03] quote, "Don Lemon was taken into custody [00:03:05] by federal agents last night in Los [00:03:06] Angeles where he was covering the Grammy [00:03:08] Awards. Don has been a journalist for 30 [00:03:10] years. His constitutionally protected [00:03:11] work in Minneapolis was no different [00:03:13] than what he has always done." And Lel [00:03:16] said, "This unprecedented attack on the [00:03:17] First Amendment and transparent attempt [00:03:19] to distract attention from many crises [00:03:21] facing this administration will not [00:03:22] stand. Don will fight these charges [00:03:24] vigorously and thoroughly in court." Now [00:03:26] again, the claim that's being made by [00:03:28] the Trump administration is that when [00:03:29] these people invaded a church and [00:03:31] disrupted services and started shouting [00:03:33] at the pastor in violation of the Face [00:03:36] Act, that Lemon wasn't just a person who [00:03:38] followed them in there with a microphone [00:03:39] or even a journalist who knew beforehand [00:03:41] that he was complicit in the [00:03:42] organization of the event, that he was [00:03:45] involved in a conspiracy to disrupt [00:03:47] services here for political purposes. [00:03:51] And those are the charges apparently [00:03:52] that are being pursued here. Conspiring [00:03:54] to deprive rights and interfering with [00:03:56] someone's religious freedom in a house [00:03:58] of worship. [00:04:00] Now again, Lemon claims that he quote [00:04:03] unquote didn't even know they were going [00:04:04] to this church until we followed them [00:04:05] there. Kind of clear that that much that [00:04:08] much at least is not true. Here is a [00:04:10] clip from the day of. Lemon was pretty [00:04:13] clearly in cahoots with the protesters. [00:04:16] I'm speaking to an organization there [00:04:18] that's gearing up to u for resistance [00:04:20] and protest. Um I've been surprised, [00:04:23] pleasantly surprised to see the [00:04:24] community coming together. Um diverse [00:04:27] community if you see this when we first [00:04:28] pulled up we're like wait a minute what [00:04:30] is which um which operation are we at? [00:04:33] And as it turns out because we we're [00:04:35] like well this is kind of MAGA coded [00:04:37] right? Saw the American flag or whatever [00:04:39] but these are resistance protesters. [00:04:41] They're planning an operation that we're [00:04:42] going to follow them on. I can't tell [00:04:44] you exactly what they're doing, but it's [00:04:46] called Operation Pull-Up. Um, and it's [00:04:48] Teima Armstrong, and she has been doing [00:04:51] this since George Floyd, um, Dante [00:04:54] Wright and others, where they surprise [00:04:57] people, catch them off guard, and hold [00:04:58] them to account. And so, that's what [00:05:01] we're doing here. And then we're after [00:05:02] that, after we do this operation, you'll [00:05:04] see it live. And these these operations [00:05:05] are surprise operations. Again, can't [00:05:07] tell you where they're going and where [00:05:08] we're gathered right now. However, um [00:05:11] and then we're going to head over to [00:05:12] Whipple. There we go. Everybody's ready [00:05:14] to go. [00:05:16] >> Let's go. Okay. [00:05:19] Thank you guys for being Thanks you for [00:05:21] allowing me to be here. [00:05:23] >> Thank you guys. [00:05:25] >> How are you? Good to see you. We're [00:05:26] We're on We're not saying what what it [00:05:28] is, what's going on, but thank you. Tell [00:05:31] us why you're doing this. [00:05:32] >> So, [00:05:33] >> this is Nika Levy Armstrong. She's on [00:05:35] the show Armstrong, civil rights [00:05:37] attorney, longtime activist here in the [00:05:39] community. And um you know, we protest [00:05:42] and do activism in all kinds of ways. [00:05:45] This is operation pullup, more of a [00:05:47] clandestine operation. We show up [00:05:49] somewhere uh that is a key location. [00:05:53] They don't expect us to come there and [00:05:55] then we disrupt business as usual. So [00:05:58] that's what we're about to go do right [00:06:00] now. We've had a lot of success with the [00:06:02] times we have done operation pull up. [00:06:05] >> So again, they're sort of in a random [00:06:06] parking lot and then they proceed to go [00:06:08] to the church and disrupt the services. [00:06:12] Now Lemon said once the protest started [00:06:15] in the church, we did an active [00:06:16] journalism which was report on it and [00:06:17] talk to the people involved including [00:06:18] the pastor, members of the church and [00:06:20] members of the organization. That's it. [00:06:22] That's called journalism. Now, that [00:06:24] seems to be not particularly true that [00:06:27] it was only once the thing started that [00:06:29] he decided to join on and that he was he [00:06:31] was really not joined with them. He was [00:06:33] just reporting on it and pretty clearly [00:06:35] they're blurring the lines. Now to be [00:06:37] fair to Lemon and just speaking legally, [00:06:40] there is a fine line between a [00:06:42] journalist doing a ride along even with [00:06:44] people who are committing criminal acts, [00:06:46] which by the way is legal. Like [00:06:48] journalists do this on a fairly regular [00:06:50] basis, and journalists being involved in [00:06:52] the planning and commission of the [00:06:52] crime, and that's what is being accused. [00:06:55] It's being accused that Lemon was [00:06:56] involved in the planned and and [00:06:58] commission of this crime and that he was [00:07:01] an integral part of that presumably [00:07:03] because they wouldn't have done it if [00:07:04] they didn't have Lemon there covering [00:07:06] it. [00:07:07] that they they required him as part of [00:07:08] the plan. That is going to be the case [00:07:10] that is made by the federal government. [00:07:11] Now, naturally, people are claiming that [00:07:13] this is a crackdown on the First [00:07:14] Amendment. They're suggesting that this [00:07:17] is [00:07:18] a an attempt by the Trump administration [00:07:20] to quote unquote silence people. [00:07:23] That that seems a stretch to me. We'll [00:07:26] have to see what evidence they have, [00:07:28] particularly in terms of prior planning [00:07:31] from Lemon and the people who are [00:07:32] involved in this. Was he involved in [00:07:34] recommending sites that they should go [00:07:35] to? Was he involved in organizing [00:07:37] transportation? Was he involved in [00:07:38] determining how they should protest? [00:07:41] Right? Those are going to be the [00:07:42] questions that come up in court. [00:07:44] But it's pretty clear that Lemon was [00:07:47] involved in some capacity. [00:07:49] I'm not going to prejudge this thing [00:07:50] legally, but for people to claim that [00:07:52] there is no shot at all, that the [00:07:54] federal government has no case at all, [00:07:56] that basically they're just arresting [00:07:57] him for being a journalist on the scene, [00:08:00] that is a stretch to me. So, I'm not [00:08:02] going to proclaim guilt or innocence. [00:08:04] The alleged crime again would be [00:08:05] conspiracy that he actually conspired [00:08:06] and we'll have to see the evidence of [00:08:08] that. But the attempt to treat this as [00:08:10] this is a violation of the First [00:08:12] Amendment. It's an attempt to destroy [00:08:14] journalistic capability and all the [00:08:16] rest, [00:08:17] I I do not think that that is accurate [00:08:19] either. Again, the way the rest of the [00:08:22] press is covering this is as a [00:08:23] journalistic crackdown. You may have [00:08:25] noticed that journalists have been [00:08:26] covering what's going on in Minnesota a [00:08:28] lot and none of them have been arrested. [00:08:30] The only person who's been arrested at [00:08:31] this point is Lemon and presumably [00:08:34] that's because the federal government is [00:08:36] going to have to present evidence that [00:08:37] he was involved in a conspiracy to [00:08:39] violate the FACE act. Well, joining me [00:08:41] on the line is Mary Margaret Olean. She [00:08:43] of course is our Daily Wire White House [00:08:44] correspondent. A lot happening this [00:08:46] week. Mary Margaret, thanks so much for [00:08:47] the time. [00:08:49] >> Good morning, Ben. Great to be here. [00:08:52] >> So, let's talk about what's going on [00:08:54] with ICE and Minnesota. Obviously, the [00:08:56] big news of the day is the arrest of Don [00:08:58] Lemon by the Department of Justice. What [00:09:01] What is the sentiments around the White [00:09:02] House around current situation with [00:09:04] regard to ICE in Minnesota and also what [00:09:05] have you heard regarding the the Lemon [00:09:07] arrest? [00:09:09] Well, actually, Ben, I was at the [00:09:11] screening of Melania at the Kennedy [00:09:12] Center last night, and I bumped into [00:09:14] Harine Dylan, who told me she had [00:09:16] recently been in California uh for some [00:09:18] meetings. And at the time, I thought [00:09:20] maybe she had just been there, you know, [00:09:22] to enjoy the California weather when [00:09:24] it's so freezing here in Washington DC. [00:09:26] But turns out, uh her meetings probably [00:09:28] had something to do with this arrest. Um [00:09:31] Don Lemon is now uh facing charges from [00:09:34] the DOJ as the DOJ had warned that he [00:09:36] would. And uh you know this has been [00:09:39] predicted by the DOJ that it's been [00:09:40] coming. I believe Harmeat has hinted [00:09:42] about this online. She's the uh the [00:09:45] assistant civil rights or she's the [00:09:47] assistant attorney for the civil rights [00:09:48] division at the DOJ and now it has in [00:09:51] fact happened. We haven't seen a ton of [00:09:54] reactions from the White House yet. Um [00:09:56] this is breaking news and everyone of [00:09:58] course is is kind of reeling from this [00:10:00] news. Uh Lemon and others are trying to [00:10:02] portray it as a uh you know a violation [00:10:04] of his rights as a journalist. But we do [00:10:06] know that he was part of this uh attack, [00:10:09] if you want to call it that, on this [00:10:10] church. These people were praying uh be [00:10:12] and this attack occurred because the [00:10:15] pastor had alleged ICE associations. But [00:10:18] Ben, as we know, he was leading a [00:10:20] service worshiping God with these other [00:10:22] churchgoers. And uh at the end of the [00:10:24] day, these protesters uh went into this [00:10:26] church and um disrupted this this uh [00:10:29] worship of God. And uh the DOJ has [00:10:32] deemed that this this incident [00:10:34] constituted an attack. And uh something [00:10:37] that I found really interesting, Ben, [00:10:38] and I know you do as well, our [00:10:40] colleague, Luke Rosia, had reported [00:10:42] earlier this week uh that the top [00:10:44] staffer for Henipin County's Sorosbacked [00:10:47] prosecutor was among those protesters [00:10:49] that stormed into that church. So James [00:10:52] Lundy, one of those protesters, works as [00:10:54] an intergovernmental affairs coordinator [00:10:56] for Henipin County, and he's married to [00:10:59] St. Paul City Council member Anika Ba [00:11:01] Bowie and he's running for a seat in the [00:11:03] state legislature as a Democrat. Um this [00:11:06] is all as the Department of Justice was [00:11:08] pursuing federal charges against the [00:11:10] protesters and he was the very staffer [00:11:13] that would interface with the federal [00:11:14] government. Now Lundy was arrested with [00:11:17] Don Lemon uh early this morning [00:11:19] according to Pam Bondi. He was arrested [00:11:21] um with three other people in connection [00:11:23] with this coordinated attack on the [00:11:25] city's church in St. Paul, Minnesota. [00:11:27] Uh, and it just shows you the level of [00:11:29] um, you know, intertwinement between [00:11:31] these protesters, between these [00:11:32] activists and a lot of these local city [00:11:34] officials in Minneapolis. [00:11:38] Mayor Margaret, on a broader level, [00:11:39] obviously what what's going on in in [00:11:41] Minnesota has eaten up an enormous [00:11:42] amount of the administration's time and [00:11:44] effort, and there has been some pretty [00:11:46] obvious conflict inside the [00:11:48] administration in terms of the [00:11:49] viewpoints expressed publicly with [00:11:51] regard to the the killing of Alex Prey, [00:11:54] for example, the deployment of Tom Hman [00:11:56] to Minneapolis. What's the mood inside [00:11:57] the White House? What are you hearing in [00:11:59] terms of potential conflicts between say [00:12:01] Steven Miller, Christine Gnome, Tom [00:12:03] Hman? Because the approaches seem to be [00:12:05] pretty different and obviously the [00:12:06] demotion of Greg Bevino, the movement of [00:12:08] him away from Minneapolis says something [00:12:10] about the administration's shift in [00:12:11] approach. [00:12:14] >> Absolutely. I mean, Tom Hman's presence [00:12:15] in Minneapolis is kind of a repudiation [00:12:17] of Christine Noom and Bo uh Christine [00:12:20] Nolan Luwendowski team. Uh, we know they [00:12:22] were here at the White House earlier [00:12:24] this week meeting with the president, [00:12:26] Chrissy Noom and Cory Luwendowski for a [00:12:28] private meeting for I believe two hours [00:12:31] um after it was announced that Tom [00:12:32] Hullman was heading to Minneapolis and [00:12:34] now he is in fact there. He gave this [00:12:35] presser yesterday morning uh where he [00:12:38] just kind of calmly delivered uh his his [00:12:41] thoughts on the process to uh the whole [00:12:43] country perhaps the whole world and he [00:12:45] calmly told everyone that things were [00:12:47] not going to proceed as they had been. [00:12:49] Uh we've been hearing from Jenny Ter, [00:12:51] who's our our fantastic immigration [00:12:53] reporter, uh that there's going to be [00:12:55] some changes and already have been some [00:12:57] changes to who DHS is um apprehending, [00:13:01] who their targets are. She's been doing [00:13:02] a lot of great reporting on that and I [00:13:04] know she's got some great DHS sources [00:13:05] that are are sharing that information [00:13:07] with her. Um but as of right now, you [00:13:10] know, we saw right away from the White [00:13:12] House top figures condemning Alex Prey [00:13:14] as a domestic terrorist. I think we've [00:13:16] seen a little bit more caution and [00:13:18] restraint in recent days as we wait for [00:13:20] the results of this investigation into [00:13:22] what exactly happened there. But the [00:13:24] release of that footage, the the clip [00:13:26] from a a BBC affiliated outlet did show [00:13:30] us a side of Alex Party that many people [00:13:33] um you know, many people across the [00:13:34] board, but especially on the left had [00:13:36] wanted to say didn't exist. you know, he [00:13:38] was portrayed to us as um a very kind, [00:13:42] loving soul, I ICU nurse who would never [00:13:44] have harmed anyone, but that footage did [00:13:47] in fact show uh that he was kicking the [00:13:49] tail lights out of ICE officers [00:13:50] vehicles, begging them to assault him. [00:13:52] And uh keep in mind, you know, I'm in [00:13:54] Washington DC. I've been on on numerous [00:13:58] news shows this week where I've had [00:14:00] everyone telling me that this was a kind [00:14:02] and good man and that uh you know, the [00:14:04] Trump White House was unfairly [00:14:06] demonizing him. Well, you know, the [00:14:08] video does not necessarily change the [00:14:10] other videos we saw involving the death [00:14:12] of Alex Buddy, but it does show us, as [00:14:14] we know, that this was not the man that [00:14:16] he was painted to be. He was violent. He [00:14:18] was antagonizing ICE, and we don't know [00:14:20] if there were other incidents involving [00:14:21] him in the same way. So, um I think the [00:14:24] Trump White House views that video as a [00:14:25] partial vindication for their rhetoric [00:14:27] on this, which they've gotten a lot of [00:14:28] criticism for. And President Trump [00:14:30] himself actually put out a statement [00:14:32] this morning uh talking about Alex Prey [00:14:34] and uh had some very harsh words for him [00:14:36] and talked about the video and how it [00:14:37] showed that uh that a lot of people had [00:14:39] been lying about Alex Prey and uh you [00:14:42] know going so far as MSNBC did um to [00:14:45] kind of facetune him and make him a more [00:14:47] handsome man, more appealing to uh the [00:14:50] crowds online who have been glorifying [00:14:52] him as a saint. So, um, this is a [00:14:54] tumultuous, uh, ever moving news cycle [00:14:57] and I have to believe we're going to see [00:14:58] more footage coming out soon. Tom Hman's [00:15:01] presence in Minneapolis, I think, has [00:15:03] had a slightly calming effect for now, [00:15:05] but it remains to be seen what will come [00:15:08] next and whether Christy Gnome will [00:15:11] ultimately be replaced here. We're [00:15:12] hearing some names floated uh, and uh, [00:15:15] that would be quite the shakeup here in [00:15:17] Washington. [00:15:20] So, Mary Margaret, you you had the [00:15:21] opportunity to ask spokespeople for [00:15:23] Gavin Newsome, you know, about his [00:15:25] recent press office comment. He he has [00:15:27] this sort of checkered history with the [00:15:29] press office. Obviously, I asked him on [00:15:31] his own podcast about the fact that his [00:15:33] press office had had suggested that ICE [00:15:35] was engaged in state sponsored [00:15:36] terrorism, the killing of Renee Good. [00:15:37] And then his press office put out a [00:15:39] statement via their ex account, which is [00:15:41] always quite lit, suggesting that Greg [00:15:43] Bavino was was a member of the SS uh [00:15:47] that that he was a member of the [00:15:48] Gestapo. Uh, and you had the opportunity [00:15:50] to ask the Newsome team about that. [00:15:51] Their their response seemed to be, shall [00:15:53] we say, less consiliatory than Newsome's [00:15:55] response directly to me when I asked him [00:15:56] about similar matters. [00:15:59] >> Absolutely, Ben. I mean, the contrast [00:16:01] was startling and and you have to wonder [00:16:03] if uh if Newsome is perhaps more [00:16:06] interested in being a charmer and person [00:16:07] than his staff is in echoing what he [00:16:10] exactly means. Look, I watched that clip [00:16:12] of you and Newsome where he really uh [00:16:14] conceded that his rhetoric on ICE was [00:16:16] putting was not a not a good idea at the [00:16:19] bare minimum. And then when I reached [00:16:20] out to his spokesman earlier this week [00:16:22] as I was writing a story on all of these [00:16:24] Democrats comparing ICE to Nazis to [00:16:27] Gestapo to the SS, I said to his [00:16:30] spokesman, uh, do you stand by this [00:16:32] portrayal of Greg Bovino as Gestapo? And [00:16:35] his spokesman replied with a very [00:16:37] sassily worded message saying, "Yes, we [00:16:39] do stand by it. that's what he looks [00:16:40] like. And I followed up and said, "Does [00:16:42] Gavin Newsome support these portrayals [00:16:45] from people like Tim Walsh of ICE as [00:16:47] Nazis?" And again, this spokesman [00:16:49] followed up and said, "Well, what else [00:16:51] do you consider people who murder people [00:16:53] in cold blood?" Um, so there's no [00:16:55] backing down in that quarter. Newsome [00:16:57] absolutely on Nuome's staff is [00:17:00] portraying this in a very aggressive [00:17:02] light. And no matter what Newsome is [00:17:04] saying to you on uh his podcast or [00:17:06] portraying himself uh as a moderate on [00:17:09] this issue or any other, it appears that [00:17:10] his staff is not actually interested in [00:17:12] that image and he might be trying to [00:17:13] play it both ways. [00:17:16] >> Well, Mary Margaret Olean doing a [00:17:18] fantastic job as always from the White [00:17:20] House. She's our Daily Wire White House [00:17:21] correspondent. Mary Margaret, really [00:17:22] appreciate the time. [00:17:24] >> Thank you, Ben. [00:17:26] >> All right, coming up, more on the [00:17:27] continued conflict in Minnesota. [00:17:29] Democrats keep upping the rhetorical [00:17:30] anti-irst. You know what holiday our [00:17:32] sponsor Pure Talk celebrates? [00:17:33] President's Day because they believe [00:17:35] wireless service should only cost you a [00:17:37] couple of presidents. Just a Jackson and [00:17:38] a Lincoln. That's 25 bucks a month for [00:17:40] unlimited talk, text, and plenty of [00:17:42] data. Think about it. That's the cost of [00:17:43] one or two meals out versus the hundreds [00:17:45] that big wireless charges families every [00:17:47] month. There's no reason wireless [00:17:49] service needs to be that expensive. 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Now, all of this just [00:19:07] highlights the continued conflict in [00:19:08] Minnesota. Democrats are trying to claim [00:19:11] victory in Minnesota that they've gotten [00:19:12] the Trump administration to back off [00:19:14] from immigration enforcement. The Trump [00:19:15] administration, meanwhile, is saying, [00:19:17] "Listen, we just are trying to work with [00:19:18] you guys in order to effectuate the [00:19:20] enforcement of immigration law." [00:19:22] President Trump last night was asked at [00:19:24] a premiere for Melania, which is the [00:19:26] documentary about his wife, the first [00:19:29] lady. He was asked about whether there [00:19:31] was a draw down that was going to happen [00:19:32] in Minneapolis, and President Trump [00:19:34] said, "No." [00:19:36] >> Will you be pulling back immigration um [00:19:38] enforcement agents out of Minnesota? [00:19:40] >> We want to keep our country safe. We'll [00:19:41] do whatever we can to keep our country [00:19:43] safe. So not pulling back. [00:19:45] >> No, no, not at all. [00:19:49] >> Well, that is, I think, the correct [00:19:52] approach. Obviously, the federal [00:19:54] government cannot pull back thanks to [00:19:56] the heckler's veto or the riers veto, [00:19:58] Tom H. Homeman, again, the person who [00:20:00] should have been in charge of this [00:20:01] operation all along. He is in [00:20:02] Minneapolis. He says he's going to stay [00:20:03] there until everything that has to be [00:20:06] done is done. He says, "I've been [00:20:08] enforcing the law under six presidents, [00:20:10] and I will continue to enforce the law [00:20:11] today. [00:20:13] for the people out there don't like what [00:20:14] ISC is doing. If you want certain laws [00:20:17] reformed, then take it up with Congress. [00:20:20] Again, ISIS is making this up. They're [00:20:22] enforcing laws enacted by Congress and [00:20:24] signed by President. The same laws have [00:20:25] been on the books. [00:20:28] For the last six presidents I work for, [00:20:30] I started with President Reagan [00:20:33] and ending with President Trump. Every [00:20:36] administration, we enforce the same [00:20:38] laws. [00:20:41] If you don't like what ISIS is doing, [00:20:43] instead of protesting this building, go [00:20:46] protest Congress. Tell me what changes. [00:20:51] I wish that Homeman had been in charge [00:20:53] of this operation from the beginning. I [00:20:54] think the Trump administration would be [00:20:56] in much better PR shape were that the [00:20:58] case. Democrats, for their part, [00:20:59] continued to push the pedal to the [00:21:00] metal, believing that they have the [00:21:02] upper hand here. Jacob Fry, the mayor of [00:21:03] Minneapolis, he he's out there [00:21:05] proclaiming that America has rejected [00:21:06] the quoteunquote law of the jungle. [00:21:08] Well, actually disobeying federal law, [00:21:11] violating federal law, obstructing the [00:21:13] enforcement of federal law, and instead [00:21:14] allowing those who violate the law to [00:21:17] take control of the city. That's the law [00:21:20] of the jungle, not the federal [00:21:21] government doing its job. [00:21:24] Time and again, America has rejected [00:21:28] the law of the jungle. Time and again, [00:21:31] America has rejected this notion that [00:21:34] might makes right. [00:21:38] That notion and that belief that we are [00:21:40] of something greater than simply force [00:21:43] has allowed our country to rise in [00:21:45] international influence and allowed [00:21:47] great cities to be laboratories of [00:21:49] democracy. [00:21:51] We must reject the notion that might [00:21:53] makes right again and again. [00:21:58] Um man is he obnoxious. I mean truly [00:22:01] just the white Zoran Mandani he is he is [00:22:05] incippid. This notion that America [00:22:09] rejects the law of the jungle by [00:22:10] embracing chaos in the streets is [00:22:12] totally numpish [00:22:14] and unamerican. [00:22:17] Fry by the way then says your city is [00:22:19] next. Well no it's not. My city is down [00:22:21] here in Florida where we enforce the [00:22:22] laws and actually work with the federal [00:22:24] government in order to ensure that [00:22:25] criminal illegal immigrants are [00:22:26] deported. So actually I'm not worried [00:22:28] that my city is next. Mayor Fry, [00:22:32] >> this is not a time to bend our heads in [00:22:35] despair or out of fear that we may be [00:22:37] next. Because if we do not speak up, if [00:22:41] we do not step out, it will be your city [00:22:43] that is next. [00:22:46] >> No, it won't. And this this whole [00:22:49] narrative, I think the Democrats, as [00:22:51] I've said before, are winning this [00:22:52] battle, but they are going to lose the [00:22:53] war because it turns out that in the [00:22:54] short term, Americans like like not [00:22:56] having ugly pictures on their TV. And in [00:22:58] the long term, they do need workable [00:23:00] policy that solves their problems. Tim [00:23:03] Walls, supposed voice of moderation, is [00:23:05] not moderating at all either. He did an [00:23:07] interview with The Atlantic in which he [00:23:09] claimed that we are nearing the point of [00:23:11] a civil war in the country. Quote, I [00:23:14] mean, is this a Fort Sumpter? [00:23:17] He says, "It's a physical assault. It's [00:23:18] an armed force that's assaulting, that's [00:23:20] killing my constituents, my citizens." [00:23:24] Again, I'm not sure I've seen a [00:23:25] politician as eager to capitalize off [00:23:26] tragedy as Tim Walls in the recent past. [00:23:28] It's pretty astonishing. The guy was in [00:23:30] serious political trouble so bad that he [00:23:32] had to withdraw from his third term [00:23:34] gubernatorial run in Minnesota, and now [00:23:37] he's trying to make his way as leader of [00:23:39] the resistance. [00:23:42] He was asked specifically by a columnist [00:23:45] for The Atlantic, Isaac Stanley Becker, [00:23:48] if he thought that America was barreling [00:23:50] toward an internal armed struggle. And [00:23:52] he said, quote, "I don't want to alarm [00:23:53] people." [00:23:55] But he said some of his constituents [00:23:56] think he should call in the National [00:23:58] Guard and arrest ICE. Okay, first of [00:24:00] all, they don't have the power to do [00:24:01] that. [00:24:02] the the fact that that walls continues [00:24:05] to up the ante here despite the fact [00:24:07] that Hman is pretty clearly just looking [00:24:10] for some sort of offramp and the [00:24:12] continued enforcement of federal law [00:24:13] demonstrates how politicized this has [00:24:15] become for walls and for fry. He put out [00:24:17] a statement yesterday. Quote, [00:24:18] "Mininnesota is grieving, but we're [00:24:20] resolved. The support we've received [00:24:21] from across the country has energized us [00:24:22] and given us hope. It's time for the [00:24:24] federal government to draw down their [00:24:25] forces and let us get back to allowing [00:24:27] freedom, opportunity, and security for [00:24:29] everyone." [00:24:30] But again, this is the government that [00:24:33] has administered billions of dollars in [00:24:36] fraud. This is the government that has [00:24:38] prevented the implementation of federal [00:24:40] immigration law. [00:24:43] Democrats in the state seem to want the [00:24:45] chaos. Again, I've said this all along. [00:24:46] It's a chaos operation that they are [00:24:47] attempting, and it has been successful [00:24:49] on a PR level, but in the end, Americans [00:24:52] are not going to like the idea of chaos [00:24:53] in their streets. the federal government [00:24:55] ejected from cities where they're just [00:24:57] simply attempting to arrest and deport [00:25:00] illegal immigrants. The media, by the [00:25:02] way, are doing their best to run cover [00:25:03] for all of this. So CNN's Branna Keeler [00:25:07] was interviewing the ex ICE director for [00:25:10] President Trump and he was saying, [00:25:12] "Listen, they're trying to refocus on [00:25:14] arresting criminal illegal immigrants." [00:25:15] And and Keeler continued to try and up [00:25:17] the ante, [00:25:20] >> but the prioritization [00:25:22] are going to be criminal aliens, public [00:25:24] safety threats, and national security [00:25:25] threats. Is that an admission that those [00:25:28] things were not the priority before? [00:25:30] >> I don't think so. I think it's always [00:25:31] been the priority, but I think what [00:25:33] President Trump said the other day, this [00:25:34] is an adjustment. [00:25:35] >> Am I hearing you right? You're saying [00:25:36] you don't actually expect any changes in [00:25:38] terms of who is going to be prioritized. [00:25:41] >> I I don't know in terms of what the [00:25:43] priorities seem to be criminalists [00:25:44] before, but I think it'll be a very [00:25:45] tailored and focused approach. [00:25:48] >> So, when Homeman is actually emphasizing [00:25:50] the prioritization [00:25:52] of criminal aliens and public safety [00:25:54] threats, he's not actually emphasizing [00:25:57] anything new. I just want to be clear, [00:25:59] that's your read on this. He's not [00:26:00] emphasizing anything new. He's not Let [00:26:03] me finish my [00:26:04] >> You've asked it like three times. I I [00:26:05] mean, I'm trying to answer the question [00:26:06] because it sounds like you're just [00:26:07] saying no. [00:26:09] >> I mean, the truth is that Hman is not [00:26:11] emphasizing anything new. It is just [00:26:13] that the people who were before him in [00:26:15] the PR lines did a poor job of [00:26:16] explaining what the administration was [00:26:18] doing. Meanwhile, in terms of enforcing [00:26:21] the law, the Department of Justice has [00:26:23] charged Ilhan Omar's alleged attacker on [00:26:25] Thursday, as should happen. [00:26:29] The person charged was a 55-year-old [00:26:32] charged with quote forcibly assaulting, [00:26:34] opposing, impeding, intimidating an [00:26:36] officer and employee of the United [00:26:37] States while she was performing her [00:26:39] congressional duties at a Tuesday night [00:26:40] town hall in Minneapolis. This is when [00:26:42] she was sprayed with what apparently was [00:26:44] apple cider vinegar. [00:26:47] That is what the DOJ should in fact be [00:26:50] doing. Ilhan Omar is out there promoting [00:26:53] herself on the back of this as per our [00:26:54] usual arrangement. She still has no [00:26:56] answers, by the way, as to why her [00:26:57] husband's winery is suddenly worth tens [00:26:59] of millions of dollars. [00:27:02] >> And so, I know that there's always been [00:27:04] an attempt to smear my character, uh, to [00:27:07] smear the character of the community [00:27:10] that I ethnically belong to. Uh, there's [00:27:12] always this sort of, um, sad reference [00:27:15] to the fact that I'm a refugee. It seems [00:27:18] like these people um, seem to have a [00:27:21] problem with the fact that I am living [00:27:23] the American dream. [00:27:26] Uh no that that is not the problem. The [00:27:28] problem is that the American dream is [00:27:29] not coming here possibly under [00:27:31] fraudulent immigration circumstances and [00:27:34] then proceeding to run for Congress on [00:27:36] the basis of really disliking the [00:27:38] country and all of its allies and maybe [00:27:41] participating in some shady financial [00:27:43] practice that like none of that is the [00:27:44] American dream. That's the problem [00:27:46] people have. But good on the Trump [00:27:47] administration for enforcing the law. [00:27:49] The Democrats continue to undermine the [00:27:52] law. So Mikey Cheryl, the new governor [00:27:55] of New Jersey, and it seems as though [00:27:57] the the national Democrats are swirling [00:27:59] more and more around a radical [00:28:02] interpretation of the circumstances, and [00:28:04] that's going to be a fail for them. It [00:28:05] really is. It is not smart. Mikey Cheryl [00:28:08] announces that she is going to seek [00:28:09] surveillance for ICE agents in New [00:28:11] Jersey. [00:28:13] >> We are not going to allow any ICED uh [00:28:15] raids to be staged from state [00:28:17] properties. And we are also going to be [00:28:20] standing up a portal so people can [00:28:23] upload all their cell phone videos and [00:28:25] alert people. Like if you see an ICE [00:28:26] agent in the street, get your phone out. [00:28:29] We want to know. [00:28:33] >> I mean, this is this is the routine [00:28:35] they're running now. ICE is the enemy. [00:28:37] ICE are Nazis and all of the rest. [00:28:40] Speaking of which, the number of [00:28:42] Democrats who have called ICE Gestapo at [00:28:45] this point is incredibly high. [00:28:48] That now includes Governor Gavin Nuome. [00:28:51] The governor's press office wrote on [00:28:52] January 25th on XG Gestapo Greg [00:28:55] referring to Greg Bavino says filming [00:28:57] ICE agents with your cell phone is [00:28:58] assault and justifies them shooting you [00:29:00] in cold blood. [00:29:02] Now I'm just going to point out here [00:29:04] that I literally asked the governor not [00:29:07] to use this kind of language with regard [00:29:09] to ICE. He had called the shooting of [00:29:10] Renee Goods state sponsored terrorism [00:29:12] via his press office and then he had [00:29:13] backed off of that saying that that was [00:29:15] a mistake. He was asked by the Daily [00:29:18] Wire if he stood by his Gestapo Greg [00:29:20] remarks and Newsome's spokesperson Izzy [00:29:22] Gardin responded, quote, "Absolutely. [00:29:24] Gestapo Greg is in SS soldier cosplay." [00:29:29] This is such a political mistake for [00:29:31] Democrats. True. Truly, it is crazy. It [00:29:33] is It is akin to the abolish the police, [00:29:36] AAB, all cops are bastards kind of stuff [00:29:38] that Democrats were pushing back in [00:29:40] 2020. Short-term gain, long-term pain [00:29:42] for Democrats. This is really quite [00:29:44] foolish. By the way, that's a point [00:29:45] being made by David Axelrod. David [00:29:47] Axelrod yesterday said, you know, you [00:29:49] guys suggesting that Democrats ought to [00:29:50] defund ICE. That is a huge political [00:29:52] fail. [00:29:54] >> I think people believe you should come [00:29:56] to the country legally and uh if you [00:29:59] don't uh you know there should be some [00:30:03] uh there should be some penalty uh for [00:30:06] that. They they do believe that you know [00:30:08] the problem that we've seen before when [00:30:10] people said abolish the police or or [00:30:12] defund the police. I don't think people [00:30:14] most people me I don't think most people [00:30:16] who said it believe that there should be [00:30:17] no uh policing function in cities but [00:30:21] the implication was that there could be [00:30:23] so um I don't think Democrats want to [00:30:26] get into that again I do think they want [00:30:28] fundamental root and branch reform and [00:30:31] if it means getting rid of the name ICE [00:30:33] which has become a very bad brand that's [00:30:36] one thing if it means that we're just [00:30:38] going to abandon immigration enforcement [00:30:40] I don't think Democrats or Republicans [00:30:42] would support that in large numbers [00:30:46] >> and he is right about that and yet [00:30:48] Democrats seem to be embracing this [00:30:50] position which is quite insane. Some are [00:30:52] not. Governor Josh Shapiro of [00:30:54] Pennsylvania who wants to campaign as a [00:30:56] moderate presumably when he runs for [00:30:57] president in 2028. He says that he is [00:30:59] hoping that all levels of the government [00:31:01] cooperate. [00:31:03] >> Do you support state and local [00:31:05] authorities cooperating with ICE on [00:31:08] their job? [00:31:09] >> We're not a sanctuary state in [00:31:11] Pennsylvania. Philadelphia is a [00:31:13] sanctuary city, but [00:31:14] >> we're not a sanctuary state. And I do [00:31:16] believe in law enforcement collaboration [00:31:18] at all levels, local, state, and [00:31:20] federal. But I also believe that all of [00:31:23] your partners need to be working [00:31:25] together on a mission that is [00:31:26] constitutional, working together on a [00:31:29] mission that reduces crime, that brings [00:31:32] law and order to a community, and that [00:31:34] protects people's constitutional rights. [00:31:37] Again, [00:31:38] this is going to be the proper [00:31:40] Democratic position, but that is not [00:31:42] what they're going to say in the moment. [00:31:44] And that is what's amazing. The [00:31:45] Democrats always feel the necessity to [00:31:47] try to outra their most extreme [00:31:49] supporters. [00:31:51] Hillary Clinton is jumping into that. By [00:31:53] the way, I I don't know why people still [00:31:54] think that people want to hear from [00:31:55] Hillary Clinton. I don't know why [00:31:57] Democrats want to hear from Hillary [00:31:58] Clinton. If Hillary Clinton had run a [00:31:59] half decent race in 2016, the entire [00:32:01] Trump era probably never would have [00:32:02] happened, which is kind of astonishing. [00:32:04] whenever they bring her back up, try to [00:32:07] revive her. It's kind of insane. She has [00:32:09] an entire piece at the Atlantic titled [00:32:11] MAGA's war on empathy, and it's all [00:32:13] about how, of course, Republicans don't [00:32:15] care enough. And that's what's really [00:32:16] the problem is Republicans don't care [00:32:19] enough. And this is such tiresome [00:32:20] nonsense. It's tiresome. And the reason [00:32:23] it's tiresome is because caring about [00:32:25] things does not necessarily mean that [00:32:27] you have the solution to the problems. [00:32:29] That the the question in politics is how [00:32:31] do you solve the problems of people? [00:32:34] Caring is not enough. Okay? Being [00:32:36] empathetic is not enough. And empathy [00:32:39] when misdirected towards specific groups [00:32:41] at the expense of other groups is a real [00:32:42] problem as psychologist Paul Bloom has [00:32:44] written about extensively. But according [00:32:46] to Hillary Clinton, it's all about the [00:32:48] lack of empathy. Again, what she's doing [00:32:49] here politically is she's pushing on [00:32:51] what is a sore spot for the Trump [00:32:53] administration because the Trump [00:32:54] administration sort of makes a virtue [00:32:56] out of bravado. And so she's trying to [00:32:58] push back against that by being the [00:33:00] kinder, softer party. That's what she's [00:33:01] doing here. [00:33:04] She says, "The crisis reveals a deeper [00:33:06] heart moral rot at the heart of Trump's [00:33:08] MAGA movement. Whatever you think about [00:33:09] immigration policy, how can a person of [00:33:11] conscience justify the lack of [00:33:12] compassion and empathy for the victims [00:33:14] in Minnesota and for the families torn [00:33:16] apart or hiding in fear for the children [00:33:17] separated from their parents or afraid [00:33:19] to go to school? That compassion is weak [00:33:20] and cruelty is strong has become an [00:33:22] article of MAGA faith." Trump and his [00:33:24] allies believe the more inhumane the [00:33:26] treatment, the more likely it is to [00:33:27] spread fear. And that's the goal of [00:33:28] surging heavily armed federal forces [00:33:30] into blue states. [00:33:32] other recent presidents and then she [00:33:33] names Biden, Obama, Bush, and Clinton [00:33:35] managed to deport millions of [00:33:36] undocumented immigrants without turning [00:33:38] American cities into battlegrounds or [00:33:39] making a show of keeping children in [00:33:40] cages. Okay, this is just it's just [00:33:42] horse pucky. Okay, it's just nonsense. [00:33:45] It's not true. Barack Obama is the [00:33:47] children in cages guy. And the vaunted [00:33:50] empathy of Barack Obama led to riots in [00:33:53] the streets. The vaunted empathy of Joe [00:33:56] Biden led to some of the worst policy [00:33:58] failures in the history of the United [00:33:59] States. [00:34:01] But I guess when Democrats don't have [00:34:02] political victory, they have to go for [00:34:04] empathy instead. Well, on the political [00:34:07] level, it appears that President Trump [00:34:08] and Chuck Schumer, the Senate Minority [00:34:10] Leader, have now reached a deal to stave [00:34:11] off a government shutdown. According to [00:34:14] Fox News, Senate Democrats and the White [00:34:16] House reached a deal to fund the [00:34:18] government. Lawmakers aren't out of the [00:34:19] woods on averting a partial shutdown. So [00:34:21] apparently Schumer and Trump labored [00:34:23] over a deal from late night Wednesday [00:34:24] until Thursday evening after the top [00:34:26] Senate Democrat unleashed several [00:34:28] funding demands and the White House [00:34:29] accused Schumer of blocking a meeting [00:34:30] with rank and file Democrats. Trump said [00:34:33] in a post on Truth Social, "The only [00:34:35] thing that can slow our country down is [00:34:36] another long and damaging government [00:34:38] shutdown." [00:34:40] Schumer said the separation of the five [00:34:42] bipartisan bills the Democrats asked [00:34:43] for, plus the twoe DHS continuing [00:34:45] resolution has been agreed to. They've [00:34:47] staved off a government shutdown for a [00:34:49] couple of weeks here and a full [00:34:51] government shutdown will not happen. Now [00:34:53] the question is going to be what happens [00:34:54] with DHS. President Trump said, "I'm [00:34:56] working hard with Congress to ensure [00:34:58] that we are able to fully fund the [00:34:59] government without delay." Republicans [00:35:01] and Democrats in Congress have come [00:35:02] together to get the vast majority of the [00:35:04] government funded until September while [00:35:06] at the same time providing an extension [00:35:07] to DHS. [00:35:10] The deal brokered would have the DHS [00:35:12] funding bill stripped from the six bill [00:35:14] package. Schumer and Democrats have been [00:35:17] adamant that if the bill were sidelined, [00:35:18] they would vote for the remaining five. [00:35:20] So, there will be a short-term funding [00:35:21] extension for DHS. [00:35:24] That came after there was a test vote [00:35:26] that happened yesterday on the funding [00:35:28] package where Senate Democrats and seven [00:35:30] other Republicans basically killed that [00:35:32] funding bill. [00:35:36] So, that that is the that is the current [00:35:38] status of it negotiations. Democrats, [00:35:41] for what it's worth, are trying to [00:35:42] DHS without defunding DHS, [00:35:46] as the Daily Wire's Virginia Cruda and [00:35:48] Jenny Ter report, [00:35:50] they're attempting a backdoor amnesty by [00:35:52] changing the law. One issue that [00:35:54] apparently has Democrats coalescing is a [00:35:57] requirement we've talked about on the [00:35:58] show that federal agents acquire [00:36:00] judicial warrants rather than [00:36:02] administrative warrants for immigration [00:36:03] arrests. And they're really pushing hard [00:36:05] on this. One source told the Daily Wire [00:36:07] there would be no more immigration [00:36:08] arrests. It's the functional equivalent [00:36:10] of getting a warrant before issuing a [00:36:11] speeding ticket. It's the entire reason [00:36:13] why administrative arrests exist in the [00:36:15] first place. If every single illegal [00:36:16] alien who is charged with entry without [00:36:18] inspection was treated like a criminal [00:36:20] arrest, they would have among other [00:36:21] things right to counsel provided by the [00:36:23] United States. And that would be [00:36:24] impossible. [00:36:26] So the goal presumably for Democrats [00:36:29] would be to kill immigration [00:36:30] enforcement. Republicans are not going [00:36:31] to go for any of that. [00:36:34] So, Democrats are going to continue to [00:36:36] try to campaign on this. I think Homeman [00:36:38] is bringing down the temperature. [00:36:39] President Trump is trying to bring down [00:36:40] the temperature. And it seems to me that [00:36:42] Democrats are now engaged in a massive [00:36:44] overstep, which I assume is one reason [00:36:46] they are focusing in like a laser beam [00:36:49] on the Don Lemon arrest, trying to claim [00:36:50] that Trump is shutting down the First [00:36:51] Amendment for going after Lemon. And [00:36:53] we'll see the evidence provided by the [00:36:54] DOJ in pursuit of a conviction of Don [00:36:57] Lemon in terms of violation of the Face [00:36:59] Act. In other big news, the president [00:37:02] has now selected a new Fed chair. That [00:37:03] person is Kevin Walsh. There is some [00:37:06] speculation that it might be Kevin [00:37:07] Hasset. Worsh is definitely a better [00:37:09] pick. [00:37:11] According to the Wall Street Journal, [00:37:12] President Trump said on Friday that he [00:37:14] would nominate Worsh to be the next [00:37:15] chairman of the Federal Reserve. He put [00:37:17] out a statement saying, "I've known [00:37:18] Kevin for a long period of time and have [00:37:19] no doubt he will go down as one of the [00:37:21] great Fed chairman, maybe the best. On [00:37:23] top of everything else, he has central [00:37:24] casting and he will never let you down." [00:37:26] You you got to love the fact that [00:37:27] President Trump kind of picks his [00:37:28] cabinet officials based on how they look [00:37:30] on TV. Worsh is quite good on TV, by the [00:37:32] way. And his economic philosophy is [00:37:35] really interesting. Is growthoriented [00:37:37] for sure. He had served on the Fed's [00:37:39] board of governors from 2006 to 2011. [00:37:43] He would succeed obviously Jerome Powell [00:37:45] in midMay. [00:37:47] It is Trump, by the way, who decided [00:37:48] that it would be Powell and not Worsh [00:37:50] originally. He will have to be confirmed [00:37:52] by the Senate. [00:37:55] Senator Tom Tillis, who sits on the [00:37:56] banking committee, wrote on social media [00:37:57] that Worsh is a qualified nominee with a [00:37:59] deep understanding of monetary policy, [00:38:02] but he also wants the DOJ probe of the [00:38:05] Federal Reserve and particularly of [00:38:06] Jerome Pal to go away before there is [00:38:08] any sort of confirmation because the [00:38:10] idea is that that is a pressure tactic [00:38:12] on whoever is the Fed chair to lower the [00:38:14] interest rates. [00:38:18] President Trump wants lower interest [00:38:20] rates. Walsh left the Fed 15 years ago. [00:38:22] He has spent much of the time since [00:38:24] cataloging how he thought the [00:38:25] institution was going astray. [00:38:28] The Wall Street Journal says that the [00:38:30] transition could mark the most [00:38:31] significant changing of the guard at the [00:38:32] Fed since 1979 when Paul Vulkar took [00:38:35] over and dramatically reoriented the [00:38:36] institution's approach to inflation. [00:38:39] Every chair since Greenspan replaced [00:38:40] Vulkar has emphasized continuity with [00:38:42] his or her predecessor. Worsh wants a [00:38:45] clear rupture, a wholesale rethinking of [00:38:47] the Fed's asset holdings, policy [00:38:48] framework, role in the economy, and [00:38:50] relationship with the executive branch. [00:38:53] So, what exactly does he want? Well, the [00:38:56] Wall Street Journal editorial board is [00:38:58] very much in favor of the WS pick. [00:39:02] As they point out, WSH has been arguably [00:39:03] the leading voice in public life for [00:39:05] reforming the Fed. He left the board of [00:39:06] governors in 2011 after chairman Ben [00:39:09] Bernani made vast bond buying a [00:39:10] permanent part of Fed policy rather than [00:39:12] an emergency resort. [00:39:14] Worsh at the time said that the Fed in [00:39:16] its quantitative easing, that is where [00:39:17] the Federal Reserve essentially buys [00:39:19] bonds from banks to inject liquidity [00:39:21] into the economy. So we have this weird [00:39:23] rigma role in the American government [00:39:25] where the Treasury Department issues [00:39:26] bonds. The bonds are sold via this [00:39:30] special VIP group of banks. A huge chunk [00:39:33] of those bonds are then sold to the [00:39:35] Federal Reserve which holds the bonds [00:39:37] and puts a bunch of assets like money on [00:39:41] the balance sheet of the banks. And then [00:39:43] the banks lend that money out. That is [00:39:44] one of the ways that you end up with [00:39:45] more money in the economy because the [00:39:46] Federal Reserve basically creates a [00:39:48] number on paper. It passes that number [00:39:50] along to the banks. The banks then lend [00:39:51] that money out. That's how you inject [00:39:52] liquidity via quantitative easing. [00:39:56] Walsh is an inflation hawk. But he has a [00:39:59] plan to both lower the interest rates [00:40:01] and keep inflation low. [00:40:04] He says that the Federal Reserve has [00:40:06] taken on far too broad a role in [00:40:07] economic policy which of course is [00:40:08] exactly right. He wrote in April 2025 in [00:40:11] my view for a farfield for all seasonal [00:40:13] and in all reasons have led to systemic [00:40:15] errors in macroeconomic policy. The Fed [00:40:17] has acted more as a general purpose [00:40:18] agency of government than as a narrow [00:40:20] central bank. [00:40:22] He says they've wandered into fiscal [00:40:24] policy with their bond buying, basically [00:40:26] buying up a bunch of assets in order to [00:40:29] bolster federal spending. [00:40:32] And that's not even including the [00:40:34] climate change and financial regulations [00:40:36] pushed by the Biden administration. So [00:40:39] what exactly is Kevin Wsh's plan? Well, [00:40:42] first you sort of have to understand how [00:40:43] the Federal Reserve generally injects [00:40:45] liquidity into the economy or removes [00:40:47] it. There are a lot of vehicles for [00:40:48] doing so. The two main ones in the past [00:40:50] several decades have been one something [00:40:52] called open markets operations. This is [00:40:54] where the Federal Reserve buys those [00:40:56] bonds from the banks as we mentioned. [00:40:58] They of course are getting them from the [00:41:00] Treasury Department. This injects money [00:41:01] into the bank accounts of the banks and [00:41:03] then the banks lend that money out. [00:41:05] Right? So that means more liquidity, [00:41:06] more availability for loans in the [00:41:08] economy. And then there is something [00:41:10] called the federal funds rate which is [00:41:11] the interest rate offered by the Federal [00:41:12] Reserve for banks to keep their money [00:41:14] there. So if you keep your money in a [00:41:16] Federal Reserve bank and you're a bank [00:41:17] that has its reserves there, the Federal [00:41:19] Reserve offers a particular interest [00:41:20] rate. When that interest rate is low, [00:41:22] that encourages banks not to put their [00:41:24] money with the Federal Reserve, but [00:41:26] instead to lend it out for the [00:41:27] prospective gain. If a bank just like [00:41:29] you, if you can keep your money in the [00:41:30] bank at 2% or invest it at 7%, you're [00:41:33] going to invest it at 7%. The same thing [00:41:35] is true of banks. So, in the past, we [00:41:37] have participated in massive open market [00:41:40] operations, right? That's what we're [00:41:42] talking about with Ben Bernani. That's [00:41:43] what we're talking about with Allen [00:41:44] Greenspan. And that's really what we've [00:41:46] been talking about for the past several [00:41:48] years. Consistent bond buying by the [00:41:51] Federal Reserve, injecting liquidity [00:41:53] into the economy that way. That's what [00:41:56] quantitative easing was kind of [00:41:57] broadscale and also we had a low federal [00:42:00] funds rate which again encouraged banks [00:42:02] to inject more liquidity into the [00:42:04] economy. Kevin Warsh believes this is a [00:42:06] screwed up way of doing things that [00:42:08] encouraged inflation under Joe Biden [00:42:10] because you were injecting liquidity [00:42:11] both via buying bonds and also by [00:42:13] keeping the FFR low but also stagnation [00:42:16] as we move forward because because of [00:42:18] the inflation we're now having to [00:42:19] increase the federal funds rate. Right? [00:42:22] That's that's what we mean. We say we're [00:42:23] increasing the in the the the interest [00:42:25] rate in order to quash inflation. We're [00:42:27] making it so that banks would rather [00:42:28] keep their money at the Federal Reserve [00:42:31] than actually sent it out for [00:42:32] investment. [00:42:34] So he thinks that essentially we gummed [00:42:36] up the works that the banks sold bonds [00:42:39] to the Fed which made money for the [00:42:41] banks and then the banks instead of [00:42:43] spending that money or putting that [00:42:44] money out into the world park their [00:42:46] money at the Fed to earn the 5% interest [00:42:48] rate. And so the investment economy he [00:42:51] thinks is stuck. So his goal is to have [00:42:53] the Federal Reserve sell off a gigantic [00:42:55] portion of its bonds. This would remove [00:42:59] reserves from the banks and also mean [00:43:01] the Federal Reserve is no longer [00:43:02] subsidizing the least effective parts of [00:43:05] the economy, the government-driven parts [00:43:06] of the economy. Also simultaneously [00:43:08] lower those interest rates, which is [00:43:10] what President Trump wants. And this [00:43:11] would then encourage banks to invest in [00:43:13] Main Street and business rather than [00:43:15] just parking their money at the Federal [00:43:16] Reserve. [00:43:18] This would simultaneously reduce the [00:43:20] risk of a major bondled implosion when [00:43:22] all of those bonds come due and the [00:43:23] Federal Reserve has to pay it off and [00:43:24] inflate the currency in order to do [00:43:26] that. And it would stimulate economic [00:43:27] growth. And so his assumption is [00:43:30] normally when you end up selling a bunch [00:43:32] of bonds back into the market. That [00:43:34] means that the bond rates for future [00:43:36] bonds have to rise because if you can [00:43:39] buy a bond really cheap right now when [00:43:42] the market is flooded, then in order to [00:43:44] get people to buy new bonds, you have to [00:43:45] have a higher facial interest rate. [00:43:47] What he's hoping is that that won't [00:43:49] happen because instead people will [00:43:50] invest in bonds based on the fact that [00:43:53] they know that the American economy is [00:43:55] growing. So driving more money into the [00:43:58] AI investment arena via lower FFR and [00:44:02] also getting rid of the bonds at the [00:44:04] Federal Reserve level. He's hoping this [00:44:06] will ungumb the works essentially and [00:44:08] you'll get an honest level of inflation [00:44:10] in the economy that is very low and also [00:44:12] high growth rates. That is that is what [00:44:14] he is looking for. And all of that is [00:44:16] predicated on significant long-term [00:44:18] growth for the United States. And this [00:44:21] is what he was writing back in November [00:44:23] of 2025 or piece for the Wall Street [00:44:25] Journal. What he said was, [00:44:28] "America's real comparative advantage is [00:44:30] its workers of all stripes everywhere [00:44:32] from factory floors to drilling rigs, [00:44:34] corporate cubicles to garage startups [00:44:35] who devise new ways of doing business. [00:44:38] The result is a revitalized nation of [00:44:39] doers, risktakers, and an entrepreneur [00:44:41] Mark Andre's simple framing builders." [00:44:45] He says Wall Street and Silicon Valley [00:44:46] are booming and US workers are finally [00:44:48] getting a step up in their real [00:44:49] take-home pay. Even so, the benefits of [00:44:51] the American juggernaut are yet to be [00:44:53] fully realized. Among the chief [00:44:54] obstacles is the Fed. [00:44:56] What is to be done? Well, first, the Fed [00:44:58] should discard its forecast forecast of [00:45:00] stagflation in the next couple of years [00:45:02] as if subpar growth and inflation 40% [00:45:04] above target is the best that can be [00:45:06] done. AI, he says, is going to bring [00:45:08] prices down. that will be [00:45:09] disinflationary [00:45:10] because if productivity goes up that [00:45:12] means higher supply that means lower [00:45:14] prices. He says that AI will increase [00:45:17] productivity and bolster American [00:45:19] competitiveness and that should drive [00:45:21] significant increases in real take-home [00:45:23] wages because things are going to be [00:45:25] cheaper so they'll be more affordable. [00:45:27] Second, he says inflation is a choice. [00:45:30] The Fed should reexamine its great [00:45:31] mistakes that led to the great [00:45:32] inflation. it should abandon the dogma [00:45:34] that inflation is caused when the [00:45:36] economy grows too much and workers get [00:45:37] paid too much. Inflation is not caused [00:45:39] by that. It's caused when the government [00:45:40] spends too much and prints too much. And [00:45:43] he says that is largely because the [00:45:45] Federal Reserve is making money appear [00:45:47] out of thin air to buy the bonds. So [00:45:48] stop doing that. That's what creates [00:45:50] inflation. Inflation is not when banks [00:45:52] lend out money. Inflation is really more [00:45:55] when the Federal Reserve is injecting [00:45:56] liquidity into the economy that didn't [00:45:58] exist before. [00:46:01] Third, he says the Fed should take [00:46:02] responsibility for regulatory failures, [00:46:04] including a deposit run on banks in late [00:46:06] 2022 and early 2023. He says the Fed's [00:46:08] rules and regulations have [00:46:10] systematically disadvantaged small and [00:46:11] medium-sized banks, and that has slowed [00:46:13] the flow of credit to the real economy. [00:46:16] And fourth, we should stop trying to [00:46:18] hold ourselves to the regulatory [00:46:20] standards of Europe. All of this seems [00:46:22] basically right to me, but the key is [00:46:25] this. It's a big bet, a really big bet [00:46:28] on the growth of AI. That's really the [00:46:31] thing that he's counting on. Now, there [00:46:33] are risks to the strategy because there [00:46:35] are costs and benefits to every [00:46:37] strategy. If because the bonds are being [00:46:39] resold to the banks, the reserves of the [00:46:41] banks runs low, then theoretically if [00:46:44] there is any sort of squeeze on the [00:46:45] banks, then banks would have to increase [00:46:47] their own interest rates to the public [00:46:48] and mortgage rates and credit card rates [00:46:49] and all of it would go up. Or it's [00:46:52] possible that a decrease in the FFR, the [00:46:55] interest rates, could cause the economy [00:46:57] to heat up a lot and people will start [00:46:59] taking out money to speculate wildly and [00:47:01] then you get some sort of inflationary [00:47:03] result. His point is that that's not [00:47:04] real inflation. Real inflation is when [00:47:06] the government is full scale creating [00:47:09] money on a computer and it just goes out [00:47:11] into the world, which really only [00:47:12] happens via open market operations. [00:47:15] Or it's possible that the interest rates [00:47:16] on bonds could spike as the market is [00:47:18] flooded with bonds that are now being [00:47:20] injected back into the economy. And if [00:47:22] those interest rates have to spike, then [00:47:24] our debt becomes significantly more [00:47:26] burdensome and the bond market softens [00:47:28] and it's harder for us to actually spend [00:47:30] on the governmental level. What's the [00:47:32] bottom line here? Worsh's strategy is to [00:47:33] bet on growth and innovation in the [00:47:35] private sector, which is why he's a good [00:47:36] pick. He is a good pick. Worsh does have [00:47:39] a strategy. It is definitely not a [00:47:42] risk-free strategy, but there's no such [00:47:43] thing as a risk-free strategy. The [00:47:44] biggest thing that he is doing is he is [00:47:46] saying that the Federal Reserve should [00:47:48] no longer be the chief policy maker when [00:47:51] it comes to the economy. Instead, the [00:47:53] Federal Reserve should basically be [00:47:55] there as a backs stop. [00:47:57] And that's kind of it, which is the [00:48:00] original concept of the Federal Reserve. [00:48:02] It was instituted to prevent runs on [00:48:04] banks. And he's saying they should [00:48:05] basically go back to that. Set a low [00:48:08] overnight rate, keep that Fed's rate [00:48:10] low. And that's that's kind of the main [00:48:12] mandate. that that is the thing that he [00:48:14] is pushing and that seems eminently [00:48:15] correct to me. Now, Democrats do have a [00:48:20] problem moving forward here. The biggest [00:48:22] problem they have is the 2030 [00:48:24] aortionment forecast. This is a map. The [00:48:28] map shows the 2030 aortionment based on [00:48:30] 2025 population estimates. This is from [00:48:33] Carnegie Melon University. It shows [00:48:34] Texas picking up four seats, Florida [00:48:36] picking up four seats, California losing [00:48:38] four seats. [00:48:40] It shows states like Arizona picking up [00:48:42] one. [00:48:45] It shows North Carolina picking up one. [00:48:48] All of the loss of seats is happening in [00:48:50] blue areas. It's happening in Illinois. [00:48:53] It's happening in New York. It's [00:48:57] happening in a wide variety of of blue [00:48:59] areas. [00:49:00] Michigan also would lose a seat. [00:49:03] Wisconsin would lose a seat. Bottom line [00:49:05] is that under that scenario, if this had [00:49:07] been the map in 2024, Trump would have [00:49:10] won 11 more electoral college votes. So [00:49:12] the map is moving pretty strongly [00:49:14] against Democrats in terms of the [00:49:15] demographics because so many places are [00:49:17] picking up population in red areas. [00:49:19] There has been a significant blue to red [00:49:21] move. Our company, Daily Wire, did this. [00:49:24] My family did this. [00:49:26] The population changes that are [00:49:28] occurring are really significant. [00:49:32] Nine states have gained more than 60,000 [00:49:34] residents from July 2024 to July 2025 [00:49:37] according to the American Redistricting [00:49:39] Project. Those states are Texas, [00:49:42] Florida, North Carolina, Georgia, South [00:49:44] Carolina, Washington, Arizona, [00:49:45] Tennessee, and Virginia. [00:49:47] Of those nine states, seven are pretty [00:49:50] solidly red. [00:49:52] Five states have lost population in that [00:49:54] same period. West Virginia, New Mexico, [00:49:56] Vermont, Hawaii, and California. The [00:49:57] only one of those that's red is West [00:49:59] Virginia. [00:50:01] and the population losses would be [00:50:03] greater for a lot of those blue states [00:50:04] if you don't include foreign in [00:50:06] migration. [00:50:08] This is a major problem for Democrats. [00:50:10] And so Democrats basically have to hope [00:50:12] that either Republicans go over their [00:50:14] skis here and pursue policies that are [00:50:17] wildly unpopular or they have to [00:50:19] moderate. They have to. And it's kind of [00:50:21] incredible that Democrats are seeming to [00:50:24] radicalize even as the map moves away [00:50:26] from them. It's a it's a hell of a [00:50:28] political move. [00:50:30] Meanwhile, it does suggest it creates at [00:50:32] least the motive for the possibility of [00:50:34] problems in the voter roles. Primila [00:50:37] Jipal, leader of the Congressional [00:50:38] Progressive Caucus, she's out there [00:50:40] railing against voter ID still. [00:50:44] All the ways in which voters are [00:50:46] intimidated, including, as you [00:50:47] mentioned, new ID requirements that [00:50:49] Republicans are trying to get into many [00:50:51] places. And so we're both in the courts, [00:50:55] but we also want to make sure that we're [00:50:58] doing everything we can to not scare [00:51:01] people off from voting. [00:51:05] >> Again, is that about scaring people off [00:51:06] from voting or is that about allowing [00:51:08] people who should not vote to vote? You [00:51:10] know, voter ID should be a basic [00:51:11] prerequisite for voting. This should not [00:51:13] be particularly controversial. It is [00:51:15] nonetheless. John Thun, the Senate [00:51:17] Majority Leader, is pushing for the SAVE [00:51:19] Act to be updated to require ID at the [00:51:21] polling places. [00:51:23] My understanding is that they are still [00:51:25] modifying the bill. Um it includes right [00:51:28] now a requirement that you be a citizen [00:51:30] to register to vote, but it doesn't [00:51:32] include a requirement that to vote you [00:51:35] be a resident. So in other words, if [00:51:36] you're going to have what we call voter [00:51:37] ID or photo ID when somebody goes into [00:51:39] the ballot box to vote, that's not [00:51:41] currently covered in the bill. So that's [00:51:43] been fixed and addressed and I think the [00:51:45] new bill that comes out hopefully will [00:51:46] deal with that. [00:51:49] Now, earlier this week, the FBI did [00:51:51] search the main election office in Fulty [00:51:52] County, Georgia, looking for records [00:51:54] related to the 2020 race. According to [00:51:56] the Wall Street Journal, a US official [00:51:58] familiar with the warrant said it [00:51:59] authorized agents to look for physical [00:52:01] ballots, voter roles from that year, [00:52:02] ballot images created by scanning [00:52:03] ballots, and tabulator tapes from every [00:52:05] voting machine in the county. And the [00:52:07] warrant was signed by a magistrate [00:52:08] judge. Apparently, the goal was to look [00:52:10] into possible violations of federal law. [00:52:12] Tulsi Gabbard flew down to Georgia and [00:52:14] was part of the effort. Now, obviously, [00:52:19] some of this is designed there. There is [00:52:21] a a thing that goes on in the Trump [00:52:22] administration where various cabinet [00:52:24] officials try to stay in President [00:52:25] Trump's good graces by by sort of [00:52:27] humoring his ideas. But we'll follow the [00:52:30] evidence wherever it leads, as of course [00:52:32] we should. If it turns out that the DNI [00:52:36] and the FBI end up uncovering serious [00:52:39] evidence of fraud sufficient to change [00:52:42] election results, obviously that should [00:52:44] all be prosecuted. We all want honest [00:52:46] elections or at the very least we [00:52:48] should. All righty. Coming up, we'll [00:52:50] jump into the latest on Iran. Will there [00:52:52] be some action there this weekend? The [00:52:54] show continues for our members right [00:52:55] now. Remember, in order to watch, you [00:52:56] have to be a member. If you're not a [00:52:57] member, become a member. Use code [00:52:58] Shapiro at checkout for two months free [00:53:00] on all annual plans. Click that link in [00:53:01] the description and join us. [00:53:05] >> What was it like, Merlin, to be alone [00:53:08] with God? [00:53:11] [screaming] [00:53:14] Is that who you think I was alone with? [00:53:20] >> Madin, I knew your father. I am yet [00:53:23] convinced that he was not of this world. [00:53:27] >> All men know of the great Talasin. [00:53:30] >> You are my father, that the gods should [00:53:33] war for my soul. [00:53:35] >> Princess Garis, savior of our people. [00:53:41] I know what the bull god offered you. I [00:53:43] was offered the same. [00:53:45] >> And [clears throat] [00:53:47] >> there is a new pirate work in the world. [00:53:48] I've seen it. [00:53:51] >> A god who sacrifices what [music] he [00:53:52] loves for us. [00:53:53] >> We are each given only one life singer. [00:53:56] >> No. And we're given another. [00:54:01] >> I learned of Yazu the Christ. And I have [00:54:04] become his follower. [00:54:05] >> He's waiting on a miracle. And I think [00:54:07] you can give him one. Trust in Yazu. He [00:54:10] is the only hope for men like us. [00:54:13] >> Fate of Britain [music] never rests in [00:54:14] the hands of the great light. [00:54:16] >> Great light, great darkness. Such things [00:54:19] mattered to me then. [00:54:21] >> What matters to you now, mistress of [00:54:23] lies? [00:54:25] >> You, nephew, [00:54:30] >> the sword of a high king. [00:54:34] How many lives must be lost before you [00:54:36] accept the power you were born to wield? [00:54:42] So cling to the promises of a god who [00:54:43] has abandoned you. [00:54:45] >> I cannot take up that [music] sword [00:54:46] again. [00:54:48] >> You know what you must do. [00:54:51] >> Great light, forgive me. [00:55:00] The time has come to be reborn.