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[00:00:00] All right, you guys. Happy Thursday. So, [00:00:02] Erica Kirk went onto Fox News last night [00:00:06] and she made a plea for transparency. I [00:00:09] have to say I'm totally with her on that [00:00:11] one and I would like to join her in the [00:00:13] pursuit of it with an open letter to [00:00:15] her. In the same vein, one of the fired [00:00:18] TPUSA employees has now posted a public [00:00:20] video informing the public of exactly [00:00:22] what's been going on behind the scenes [00:00:24] and the real reason that they believe [00:00:25] that a lot of people were fired. Now, [00:00:28] after watching their boss get [00:00:30] assassinated and after working 20our [00:00:32] days, this young employee was subjected [00:00:35] to a rather bizarre loyalty test. We're [00:00:38] going to tell you all about that. So, [00:00:39] welcome back to Candace. [00:00:56] Let there be light. I mean, at least [00:00:59] that was in a nutshell what Erica Kirk [00:01:01] told the reporter Trace Gallagher in a [00:01:03] one-on-one interview regarding what she [00:01:06] is hoping to get out of these court [00:01:08] proceedings. She wants transparency. [00:01:11] Take a listen. [00:01:12] >> I want there to be no hesitation in [00:01:15] understanding of what happened to my [00:01:17] husband that day. I want there to always [00:01:19] be full transparency because what I [00:01:22] don't want to have happen is for there [00:01:24] not to be and then I am relying then on [00:01:28] social media and other news outlets to [00:01:31] explain the narrative rather than saying [00:01:34] hey this is what happened. This is what [00:01:36] you Here's all of the [00:01:40] excess is hard. All of the facts on the [00:01:43] table for you guys to see and you guys [00:01:46] can [00:01:47] >> see on full display what happened to my [00:01:49] husband and there is no if ends or buts [00:01:51] or confusion as to who did it and why. [00:01:56] >> I don't I don't believe her at all. That [00:01:58] wasn't convincing. Um I don't know what [00:02:00] was hard about getting that sentence [00:02:01] out. That seems remarkably rehearsed. It [00:02:03] almost just seems like she forgot a [00:02:05] line. Uh, nothing in her eyes there [00:02:07] makes you believe it. She's telling the [00:02:08] truth. But beyond the eyes, just the [00:02:10] actions, right? You can judge people by [00:02:12] their actions. Erica, if she truly [00:02:13] wanted more transparency, she could [00:02:15] provide it because you don't need it in [00:02:17] a courtroom. We actually do not need to [00:02:20] turn to the courts to have the public [00:02:22] understand what happened on that day. [00:02:23] Because before the courts even got [00:02:25] involved, the first people that had [00:02:26] access to exactly what happened in 4K, [00:02:30] as Tyler Boyer said, was Turning Point [00:02:32] USA. They seized the cameras. Um, they [00:02:35] could have said, "Here, I'm also going [00:02:36] to have some private investigators take [00:02:38] a look at everything and tell them what [00:02:39] they think." I I was one of the people [00:02:41] that called in personally requested to [00:02:42] view the tapes. I said, "We don't have [00:02:44] to release them. I just want to see the [00:02:45] tapes." And they were immediately ky. [00:02:48] They've been ky about information. [00:02:50] They've been changing information uh for [00:02:53] saying, "Oh, I didn't realize that we [00:02:54] lied about this or we lied about that." [00:02:56] So, making this public plea to the [00:02:59] courts, I don't know. I think that it [00:03:00] stands in stark contrast to the actions [00:03:03] um that are available to Erica Kirk as [00:03:07] the CEO and chairman of this massive [00:03:11] organization. But exactly how massive? [00:03:13] Anyway, I wanted to write this open [00:03:16] letter to Erica because I know that [00:03:18] Turning Point USA watches every episode [00:03:21] of this podcast and that people then [00:03:24] take what I say back to her and they [00:03:26] give her notation. So, I would [00:03:28] appreciate it if the elves at Turning [00:03:30] Point USA just let her see this in its [00:03:33] entirety. Here we go. Because more [00:03:34] information has become available to me. [00:03:38] I am feeling [00:03:41] well, I'm feeling some type of way. Here [00:03:43] we go. Ready? [00:03:45] Dear Erica, I thought it best to do this [00:03:49] publicly. I think public conversations [00:03:52] keep keep everybody honest and there are [00:03:54] some things that certainly need to be [00:03:55] clarified because sometimes the gap [00:03:58] between the truth and the lie is what [00:04:00] happens behind closed doors. You and [00:04:02] Charlie began dating in earnest in 2019 [00:04:06] and in retrospect it was accompanied by [00:04:08] a season of a lot of change. Uh for one [00:04:12] I was getting married and virtually [00:04:15] therefore joined at the hip with my [00:04:17] fiance. He was sort of a new third wheel [00:04:19] at all of our events. A few months later [00:04:23] on May 1st, the public was informed that [00:04:26] I was resigning from my position as the [00:04:29] communications director of Turning Point [00:04:31] USA. Now, there has been a lot of public [00:04:34] speculation [00:04:36] as to what led to that decision. The [00:04:38] media ran with it was anti-semitism or [00:04:41] some disagreement about Kanye West, but [00:04:44] that wasn't true. None of that was true [00:04:46] of the truth. And I think that you very [00:04:47] well know what the truth is because you [00:04:50] were around for it is that Charlie and I [00:04:52] had a disagreement [00:04:54] uh which fractured my trust in him. He [00:04:57] did something that he had never done [00:04:59] before. He lied to my face about money. [00:05:03] Now, in retrospect, I believe that the [00:05:06] manner in which I discovered the lie [00:05:08] might have been by design, but there's [00:05:10] no need for us to delve into conspiracy [00:05:11] when the facts are plenty enough. [00:05:14] Charlie had taken a meeting down in [00:05:17] Florida with Ike Promoter at Mara Lago. [00:05:20] It was a a fundraising meeting. For [00:05:22] whatever reason, he did not want me to [00:05:24] know about this meeting and that was [00:05:26] strange. It was meant to be kept a [00:05:27] secret. Strange because we had always [00:05:30] collaborated on and taken those sorts of [00:05:32] meetings together. Anyway, I found out [00:05:35] about it and um I decided to ask him [00:05:37] casually as we were riding up an [00:05:39] elevator at the Trump Hotel in DC. I [00:05:43] said to him, "Uh, have you heard from [00:05:45] Ike recently?" And he looked me right in [00:05:48] the face, uh, just as he was getting off [00:05:50] on his floor. And he said, "No, I [00:05:51] haven't. I haven't heard from him in [00:05:53] like two weeks." And I then said back to [00:05:57] him, "Really? Really, Charlie? Because [00:05:59] you had you had lunch with him yesterday [00:06:00] at Mara Lago." And I saw his stomach [00:06:03] drop. His entire face looked, you know, [00:06:07] as if he was going down um a roller [00:06:09] coaster. He stuck his arm back in the [00:06:12] elevator really quickly and tried to [00:06:14] explain it away. He he then pivoted [00:06:15] toward an apology, but obviously the [00:06:18] damage was done. And if I'm being [00:06:20] honest, I was as hurt as I was shocked [00:06:23] and confused by it because we were [00:06:25] close. [00:06:26] We did go back down uh to the lobby. We [00:06:29] sat at a table and we talked. I don't [00:06:31] even remember whether or not I was [00:06:32] angry. I probably was. That does tend to [00:06:34] be my choice emotion. Uh, but deep down [00:06:37] there was a part of me that knew that it [00:06:39] was coming because of a lot of the new [00:06:43] hires that were coming into Turning [00:06:44] Point USA post Kanye tweet. Charlie had [00:06:48] new people in his ear that were [00:06:50] hijacking his ambition, making him [00:06:52] believe that money was the truest [00:06:54] measure of success. Charlie was a [00:06:57] brilliant fundraiser. Everybody knows [00:06:58] that. But he was also young. He was [00:07:00] naive to what the wrong money could [00:07:02] invite into his life. And I warned him. [00:07:05] I warned him in that restaurant. I [00:07:07] warned him specifically about Stacy [00:07:09] Sheridan. Everything about her made my [00:07:12] skin crawl. And I suspected she and [00:07:15] Tyler had something to do with it. I [00:07:17] also warned him about Schaefer security [00:07:19] and Dan Flood. You can check the text [00:07:21] messages because you have them. And uh [00:07:24] now I am left wondering obviously if [00:07:27] Charlie had heeded my advice if he would [00:07:30] still be alive. I've also come to [00:07:32] another realization that I missed at [00:07:34] that time. maybe the uh the newest and [00:07:36] the biggest influence in his ear. Who [00:07:39] was that? Obviously. Uh it was you. You [00:07:42] were the newest and biggest influence in [00:07:44] Charlie's life. You kind of all arrived [00:07:46] at the same time. And you too, Erica. [00:07:49] You lied to my face as we sat down in [00:07:53] that hotel and we spoke for four hours. [00:07:56] But I want to be clear, it was [00:07:57] different. You see, with Charlie, I [00:07:58] could forgive him. We were always like [00:08:00] brother and sister. We went on tours [00:08:01] thereafter. [00:08:03] But you didn't do it um when you lie. [00:08:05] You didn't do it out of naivity. You [00:08:07] didn't do it because you were young and [00:08:09] being pulled into the wrong direction by [00:08:10] bad faith actors. [00:08:13] Andrew Kovat was never going rogue. You [00:08:16] knew that every single evil thing that [00:08:19] was done to me was done with your [00:08:22] blessing. And I consider uh the [00:08:24] onslaught of attacks that I had to [00:08:26] endure, [00:08:28] they were evil because you knew I was [00:08:30] telling the truth. And you authorized [00:08:33] people with an incredible amount of [00:08:35] money to attack one of the few people in [00:08:39] politics who was actually grieving your [00:08:42] husband. You knew we had a deep [00:08:44] friendship. You knew I was telling the [00:08:46] truth about the Catholic thing about [00:08:48] everything. You allowed these people to [00:08:50] lie and to say that Charlie and I hadn't [00:08:55] spoken since 2019. I mean, it's it's [00:08:57] crazy how much of a lie that was. you [00:08:59] authorized it and I now know that. The [00:09:01] question [00:09:03] is why? It was so cruel. It was so mean, [00:09:06] right? Why impart that on someone who [00:09:09] you know within a sea of snakes actually [00:09:11] cared about Charlie and didn't want [00:09:13] anything out of the organization? [00:09:16] Um maybe it's because I was like a loose [00:09:19] end one person that wasn't controlled by [00:09:22] an organization. had just kind of proven [00:09:25] uh that I'd rather lose everything to [00:09:27] say something that I don't believe, [00:09:28] least of all for money. I mean, maybe [00:09:31] it's also because you have his phone. [00:09:33] And when I revealed to the public that [00:09:36] he had predicted his own death in [00:09:38] remarkable detail, maybe you went back [00:09:40] and you read the rest of those messages, [00:09:41] the ones that I haven't yet revealed to [00:09:43] the public, because in retrospect, those [00:09:45] messages are they're pretty terrifying [00:09:47] because they're precise and it feels [00:09:49] prophetic. [00:09:51] Charlie was gifted. You know that. I [00:09:52] know that. And the government most [00:09:54] certainly knew that as well since he was [00:09:57] a kid, which is why it is, it was at [00:10:01] least very interesting to me that you [00:10:04] told the New York Times, something that [00:10:05] most people didn't pay attention to, but [00:10:07] you told the New York Times the night [00:10:08] before his murder, Charlie's, and I'm [00:10:11] going to quote this, you said that [00:10:12] Charlie's adrenal glands were just going [00:10:15] off. He couldn't sleep. I know enough [00:10:18] about Charlie to know what that means. [00:10:21] That means that Charlie was being [00:10:22] bothered. He was probably having visions [00:10:24] like he was in 2018. Probably a clearer [00:10:27] vision than the one that I had that you [00:10:28] guys tried to mock. That danger was [00:10:30] coming. And I'm going to go ahead and [00:10:32] say that it wasn't about a Jezebel [00:10:36] article written by some leftist. Please [00:10:38] stop saying that because it's not true. [00:10:40] I know Charlie. A leftist article didn't [00:10:41] upset him in this way. Didn't make him [00:10:43] call a priest to pray over him. [00:10:46] He thought someone was going to kill [00:10:47] him. Did express that in writing. and [00:10:49] you did not lose those text messages. [00:10:51] You knew that Charlie and I spoke a lot [00:10:54] about his third eye. That's why that [00:10:57] sentence caught my attention in the [00:10:58] article. You spoke about the street [00:11:00] lamps that would go off when he would [00:11:02] run, about the special school that he [00:11:04] had to go to. We spoke about a lot of [00:11:06] the things that were strange in our [00:11:07] childhood, the testing that both of us [00:11:09] had to endure. We spoke about the fact [00:11:11] that we could both astral project. You [00:11:13] know, all of this, of course, you have [00:11:14] his phone. Um, and how surprised we were [00:11:17] when we learned that not everybody does [00:11:18] that naturally. Sleep paralysis, you [00:11:20] name it, we had conversations about it. [00:11:23] And if Charlie's adrenal glands were [00:11:25] going off, um, it was probably maybe for [00:11:28] the very same reason that I pulled my [00:11:31] kids out of school days before he was [00:11:33] murdered because I sensed danger was [00:11:36] coming. And since we are being open, I [00:11:39] also want you to know that it struck me [00:11:41] as odd when you said in that interview [00:11:45] with Jesse Waters that you wanted [00:11:47] Charlie to have a good night's sleep. He [00:11:50] was so excited. Um, so you sent him to [00:11:53] sleep in his daughter's room. [00:11:56] You know, just register me as a little [00:11:57] bit backwards. If I wanted my husband to [00:11:59] have a good night's sleep because of [00:12:01] something he had the next day, I'd [00:12:04] probably let him sleep in the room and I [00:12:06] would sleep in my in my daughter's room. [00:12:09] Flagged that. Um, I also thought what [00:12:12] was interesting is that you said the [00:12:14] next morning when he snuck in, he [00:12:15] grabbed his wedding band. [00:12:18] Again, minor detail, but I asked myself, [00:12:19] why was his wedding band off? [00:12:23] But enough of speculation. Here are the [00:12:25] facts. [00:12:27] I now have verifiable proof in writing [00:12:31] that Justin Strife and you lied to me. [00:12:35] You know exactly who Pierre is. Why did [00:12:38] Justin try say that? He had never heard [00:12:40] of Pierre. It's crazy. Justin, why would [00:12:42] you do that, Justin? Uh, you know him. [00:12:45] You've met with him. You've personally [00:12:47] met with Pierre. Um, Erica, you've met [00:12:50] with him in the wake of Charlie's death. [00:12:53] Uh, I have again verifiable proof. So, [00:12:56] you can call your lawyers. You can spend [00:12:57] another billion on PR if you want to [00:13:00] tell your lawyer to call my lawyer. I [00:13:02] mean, you guys certainly have the money [00:13:03] to do all of these things. It's not [00:13:05] going to wipe away the the truth. Okay. [00:13:09] Uh the truth is that there was a deal on [00:13:12] the table with Pierre who yes is from [00:13:15] France born in France and that deal was [00:13:19] worth billions [00:13:21] not millions billions plural billions of [00:13:25] dollars [00:13:28] just after Charlie was shot and again I [00:13:29] have proof Pierre had a phone call with [00:13:32] Justin Strife. He also had a phone call [00:13:35] uh with Mr. Don Oro of Turning Point USA [00:13:39] down in Tampa. [00:13:42] And you know what's really odd? Somehow [00:13:44] this French man Pierre, he knew that [00:13:48] Charlie was dead before the rest of the [00:13:49] world did. How did he know that? How did [00:13:51] he know before I knew? Especially [00:13:52] because he wasn't yet a donor to Turning [00:13:54] Point USA. Why was he given so much [00:13:58] priority? [00:13:59] French man. [00:14:02] I'm interested. [00:14:05] I uh I know that after Charlie died, [00:14:09] that deal went through. [00:14:13] Yeah, [00:14:15] if I'm lying, this would definitely fall [00:14:17] within the category of defamation. So, [00:14:20] um yeah, I'm all in on this one. [00:14:23] I'm guessing, by the way, regarding [00:14:25] this, Pierre, that this might be the [00:14:26] reason that the White House never got [00:14:29] back to me regarding the French Foreign [00:14:31] Legion being involved with Charlie's [00:14:33] assassination [00:14:36] because I don't know, there could be a [00:14:38] French angle here. Could this be a [00:14:40] motive? Could billions of dollars be a [00:14:42] motive? I mean, I'll just ask some [00:14:43] immediate questions. My question would [00:14:46] be, why would a devout Catholic [00:14:49] Frenchman be looking to give billions of [00:14:53] dollars to an evangelical organization? [00:14:56] Is that not weird? Just objectively [00:14:58] weird? Gosh, that's a pretty big [00:15:00] investment. Just really care about free [00:15:02] market capitalism. [00:15:04] What's France got to do with college [00:15:06] campuses in America? Full stop. The [00:15:07] answer, Erica, is nothing. [00:15:10] Nothing. [00:15:12] And one of the things uh that uh when I [00:15:16] was a kid and other gate kids as we've [00:15:19] been speaking about the gate program and [00:15:21] they put you in these special classes [00:15:22] they test you frequencies sound they [00:15:25] made us drink fluoride all the weird [00:15:26] stuff. But one of the things that [00:15:28] they're especially interested in is how [00:15:31] quickly you can put together puzzles. [00:15:33] And I want you to know that I excelled [00:15:34] at that. I was really good at putting [00:15:38] together puzzles. I gotta tell you, I [00:15:42] think picture is starting to emerge [00:15:45] here. I think I was right. [00:15:47] My best guess is that it was Pierre [00:15:50] Falconee all along of Angola Gate. We [00:15:54] talked about it on the show. France, [00:15:55] Israel, the United States, this time it [00:15:58] would be Egypt rather than Angola all [00:16:01] working together. [00:16:03] Maybe they were getting the ban back [00:16:04] together to traffic because uh yeah, [00:16:06] there's been a lot of trafficking that [00:16:08] just keeps coming up in this [00:16:10] investigation. [00:16:11] These countries, these satellite of [00:16:13] countries, you trying to pretend [00:16:16] with your what now billions of dollars [00:16:19] got a PR, you got we can do all of this. [00:16:22] And it was so crazy. Oh my [laughter] [00:16:25] little joke about the Egyptian planes. [00:16:27] What? Nothing to see here. [00:16:30] This is my theory. There's a lot to see [00:16:32] here. Uh because you were lying to cover [00:16:37] BB Netanyahu's tracks. That's very [00:16:38] strange. You were there when BB [00:16:41] Netanyahu called. Andrew told me that BB [00:16:43] offered to take Turning Point USA to the [00:16:46] next level and that Charlie turned him [00:16:49] down in the Hamptons at the dinner that [00:16:53] you were a part of. But you don't [00:16:54] remember that part. You say he's just [00:16:56] calling about a letter that Charlie [00:17:00] wrote. [00:17:02] Five months earlier, [00:17:04] the dinner that you thereafter allowed [00:17:08] an army of influencers to claim never [00:17:11] actually happened. But you were there. [00:17:13] Oh, I was there every step of the way. [00:17:15] Nothing. None of this ever happened. [00:17:16] Nobody wanted to address BB calling. [00:17:20] Nobody made any statements about that. [00:17:23] Full-blown SCOP, psychological [00:17:24] operation. truly everything that you [00:17:27] guys did uh not only was it cruel, but I [00:17:29] think the real motive the real [00:17:31] motivation was you just thought you [00:17:34] could psychologically break me. That's [00:17:36] what this this whole thing has been. [00:17:37] It's been one big scop very wellunded [00:17:40] because there's a lot of money on the [00:17:42] line. Um if nothing happened in the [00:17:45] Hamptons that was out of the usual, why [00:17:47] the panic? [00:17:49] Because something did happen. Charlie [00:17:52] told BBNet and Yahoo no. [00:17:56] BB uh also Charlie had declined to have [00:17:59] BB on his podcast [00:18:02] when BB went on a little PR tour. [00:18:04] Charlie didn't want to have him on the [00:18:05] podcast according to Andrew. [00:18:08] So Charlie seems pretty done with [00:18:10] Israel, right? You don't want to have on [00:18:12] the prime minister of Israel. [00:18:15] But the um the obvious question here [00:18:17] that the media is not interested in, but [00:18:20] I certainly am, is in exchange for what, [00:18:23] right? In exchange for what was BB [00:18:24] Netanyahu going to take Turning Point [00:18:26] USA to the next level? In exchange for [00:18:29] what? And also, how was he planning to [00:18:32] get that money into the company? [00:18:35] Turning Point was all already worth a [00:18:36] hundred million dollars. Pulls in $100 [00:18:41] million annually. What does the next [00:18:42] level mean? It sounds like it would have [00:18:44] to be billions [00:18:47] via whom? [00:18:49] My guess is Pierre Eica. I think that [00:18:54] there's a reason Pierre knew that [00:18:55] Charlie was dead first. I think there's [00:18:57] a reason he was a priority. [00:18:59] How? Why? I think France and Israel are [00:19:02] involved in Charlie Kirk's [00:19:03] assassination. And um I'm going to put [00:19:06] that out there with full confidence. I [00:19:08] also now have very strong evidence which [00:19:13] suggests that you lied about your [00:19:16] whereabouts on the morning of September [00:19:19] 10th. Little details haven't been [00:19:21] edited. You said that you were [00:19:22] accompanying your mother as she was [00:19:24] receiving a treatment. [00:19:26] Like I said, I now have something which [00:19:28] strongly disputes that narrative. So, [00:19:30] I'll ask you this question on behalf of [00:19:32] the world. What the hell happened on [00:19:34] September 10th? [00:19:38] Why are you guys struggling to get your [00:19:40] story straight? [00:19:42] Why did you tell Jesse Waters this? [00:19:47] >> And you wanted to see Charlie [00:19:49] immediately [00:19:51] and came up. [00:19:53] Take us through that. [00:19:56] >> We landed in Utah, went straight to the [00:20:00] hospital. [00:20:03] >> Straight to the hospital. [00:20:05] Andrew told me that when he deplaned, [00:20:08] you guys embraced on the tarmac and he [00:20:11] boohoo cried in your arms because he had [00:20:13] so much pent up anxiety. So just given [00:20:16] the planes which you confirmed to me [00:20:18] which plane he was on and which plane [00:20:20] you were on, that would mean that you [00:20:22] had to wait for Andrew to land for an [00:20:24] hour. Waited for an hour. [00:20:29] Don't do the thing where you tell me [00:20:30] that Andrew went rogue. Don't do that, [00:20:32] Erica. You're lying. You would be lying. [00:20:35] question is why? Why did you wait? And [00:20:38] how long did you wait? And who was on [00:20:39] the Egyptian planes? Who took off of [00:20:42] Delaware? Who stayed behind to uh [00:20:45] communicate on that second plane that [00:20:47] was transponding for no reason? I think [00:20:49] you know what I know, which is that [00:20:54] I'm going to find out. [00:20:56] This is not going to be a never- ending [00:20:58] mystery. This is not going to be the JFK [00:21:01] story. I'm going to figure out exactly [00:21:03] what happened and I'm getting very close [00:21:05] against all odds, against billions. You [00:21:08] might have the billions, but I have the [00:21:10] truth. So, that's what I wanted to say [00:21:13] to you. We'll be right back. All right, [00:21:16] you guys. Inflation has been [00:21:17] skyrocketing and it doesn't seem like it [00:21:19] will slow down anytime soon. 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[00:24:24] Well, she has now dropped a video and [00:24:26] I'm going to play it um about five [00:24:28] minutes of this video so you can listen [00:24:29] to her describe what happened to her [00:24:30] because it gives us insight into how [00:24:32] this company is running with Charlie [00:24:33] gone and with Erica at the helm of it. [00:24:35] Take a listen. [00:24:36] My name is Aubrey Lech and I am the [00:24:38] former public relations manager for [00:24:41] Turning Point USA and I was a part of [00:24:44] the recent kind of mass termination [00:24:47] group at Turning Point uh and was let go [00:24:50] about 3 weeks ago. And at the time of my [00:24:54] release, I was working for the ATK [00:24:56] company, which is spokesman Andrew [00:24:58] Kvett's private business that contracts [00:25:00] out with the Turning Point kind of [00:25:02] ecosystem. Uh, so encompassing of [00:25:04] TurningPoint USA and Turning Point [00:25:07] Action, I was working directly for him. [00:25:10] Prior to that, I did work for Turning [00:25:12] Point USA. So, I've been with the [00:25:14] organization since 2021, September 10th, [00:25:17] 2025. Obviously, it was an extremely [00:25:20] traumatizing day for everyone. I think [00:25:23] pretty much everyone in the world with [00:25:25] any amount of sanity was slightly [00:25:27] traumatized by what they saw. It was an [00:25:30] extremely traumatizing day for me and I [00:25:35] worked non-stop. My phone received [00:25:38] hundreds of phone calls on September [00:25:40] 10th, thousands of text messages. In [00:25:42] December, we obviously had America Fest [00:25:44] here in Phoenix, Arizona. And that was [00:25:46] non-stop work, too. And so, really, it's [00:25:50] just been go go go for almost the past 6 [00:25:53] months. During the memorial, for [00:25:54] example, I literally did not sleep for [00:25:56] over 48 hours. Despite all of that, I [00:26:00] want to go ahead and fast forward to my [00:26:02] termination, which took place about 3 [00:26:05] weeks ago, and I was brought into an [00:26:09] office to have a discussion just [00:26:10] generally about my employment. It was [00:26:13] myself, Andrew Kvette, and Marina Munz, [00:26:16] who is the CMO of Turning Point USA, who [00:26:19] I used to work for when I was just [00:26:20] full-time with Turning Point. They sat [00:26:22] me down and told me that there were two [00:26:24] instances they wanted to talk to me [00:26:26] about. Um, one of which is pretty [00:26:29] irrelevant to this timeline. So, I'm [00:26:31] just going to talk about the one which [00:26:33] was an Uber ride. What was told to me [00:26:35] was that a Turning Point executive got [00:26:37] into an Uber one day and they randomly [00:26:40] just kind of started talking about [00:26:41] Turning Point. And the executive asked [00:26:44] the driver, "What so what do you think [00:26:46] about Turning Point?" And the driver [00:26:47] proceeded to tell the Turning Point [00:26:50] executive, "Well, it's just really sad. [00:26:52] I've heard the organization's really [00:26:53] going going downhill. There's not really [00:26:55] a direction, and nobody likes Erica." [00:26:59] And the Turning Point executive [00:27:00] proceeded to ask this Uber driver, [00:27:02] "Well, who told you that?" And the Uber [00:27:05] driver told the Turning Point executive [00:27:08] that his daughter was good friends with [00:27:11] a girl that worked at Turning Point. Way [00:27:13] back when in high school, they had [00:27:15] spoken about Turning Point since [00:27:16] Charlie's assassination and that, you [00:27:19] know, this was told to him by his [00:27:20] daughter. And the Turning Point [00:27:22] executive, of course, asked, well, who [00:27:24] was the employees name? And the Uber [00:27:25] driver allegedly said, Aubrey. Aubrey [00:27:27] who? Aubrey Lech. [00:27:30] And the story was presented to me as one [00:27:33] of the reasons for my termination. [00:27:35] Turning Point has not insinuated this. [00:27:37] They never told me anything like this. [00:27:39] However, I just have a gut feeling that [00:27:45] I was terminated from Turning Point [00:27:46] because I am questioning the narrative [00:27:49] of what happened to my role model and [00:27:52] CEO Charlie Kirk on the day of his [00:27:54] assassination. It is from my own [00:27:56] experience that [00:27:59] you can't question the narrative and [00:28:02] work at Turning Point. That is how I [00:28:05] feel. That is how other people I've [00:28:08] talked to feel. It goes against [00:28:11] everything that Charlie ever stood for. [00:28:13] I'm going to take action. I'm going to [00:28:14] ask questions. I'm going to talk to [00:28:16] other people. And I refuse to apologize [00:28:19] for having my own freedom of thought, [00:28:21] which is something that Charlie [00:28:23] ingrained in me and so many other young [00:28:25] people. [00:28:28] First and foremost, just want to say the [00:28:30] idea of being brought into an office and [00:28:32] questioned by your boss about something [00:28:35] an Uber driver said. What is this Gossip [00:28:37] Girl? I mean, what what what CW show are [00:28:40] we watching here where you get pulled in [00:28:42] and asked a question about what you said [00:28:44] to an Uber driver? Maybe. I mean, maybe [00:28:46] she said it, maybe she didn't say it, [00:28:47] but isn't it kind of your right to go [00:28:48] home and talk trash about work? Isn't [00:28:52] that kind of what everybody does when [00:28:53] they leave? I assume. I know. I know I'm [00:28:54] lovely, but I'm I'm sure that people in [00:28:56] the control room go and they vent about [00:28:57] work in general because that's a normal [00:28:59] thing to do. The idea of a CMO asking [00:29:02] questions to an Uber driver is bonkers. [00:29:05] Okay, these are loyalty tests and these [00:29:07] people are completely and utterly [00:29:08] deranged. Secondly, I want to say this. [00:29:11] Even if every employee was terrible, [00:29:14] like actually deserved to be fired from [00:29:16] their job, I would probably after [00:29:18] pulling in a quarter of a billion [00:29:20] dollars say we got a hold for a year [00:29:22] because they just literally watched [00:29:25] Charlie Kirk be assassinated. There's [00:29:26] like a degree of respectability there, [00:29:29] like a a grieving period for a year. [00:29:32] We're going to make sure there's no [00:29:34] other transitions in your life and keep [00:29:37] things solid. No. No. they just were [00:29:40] like, "Peace out." And I think she's [00:29:42] right. I think in the end there when she [00:29:44] says that this was actually motivated by [00:29:46] them going after people who they [00:29:48] suspected were not loyal to Erica or [00:29:49] people that didn't seem to fully buy [00:29:51] what happened on September 10th, which [00:29:53] by the way is everyone. They're going to [00:29:55] just have to get rid of everyone and I [00:29:58] think eventually they will and start a [00:30:00] new the entire world. I don't even know [00:30:02] who they're going to bring in in their [00:30:03] place. I see they're advertising now. No [00:30:05] one is buying what the feds are selling. [00:30:08] No one is buying what Erica is selling. [00:30:11] Nobody is buying what any person is [00:30:14] trying to sell to us about what took [00:30:16] place on September 10th. Okay. Uh so I I [00:30:20] don't I don't see what what direction [00:30:23] they are heading into. I have no idea [00:30:24] what the organization is going to [00:30:25] become, but I'm getting closer. I'm [00:30:28] getting real close uh to understanding [00:30:31] what happened. I think just going [00:30:33] through the questions, the who, the [00:30:34] what, the when, the where, the why. I [00:30:36] think lying about knowing Pierre, Justin [00:30:40] Strife, that signals to me that there's [00:30:43] a fear, why didn't you want us to know [00:30:45] about Pierre? Cuz if he was just [00:30:48] somebody who was going to give billions [00:30:49] of dollars, you just like, "Oh yeah, I [00:30:50] spoke to him. Like, I've been in [00:30:52] communication. He just happened to call [00:30:53] me at that time." If I may issue you [00:30:55] guys a a report card, far be it for me [00:30:58] to do this. Uh this is where you guys [00:31:02] messed up. Stupid lies. not uh behaving [00:31:06] in the way forget everybody grieavves [00:31:08] differently. Nobody grieavves in the [00:31:12] manner of allowing people who were [00:31:14] actually enemies of your husband to open [00:31:18] up Amefest like that. If I'm being [00:31:20] honest, the first moment that I went, [00:31:23] "Oh, something is very wrong." was been [00:31:25] when Ben became the the defender of [00:31:27] Charlie Kirk. I mean, I I just knew too [00:31:29] much. It was like, whoa, whoa. Why is [00:31:31] Ben pressing Megan Kelly pretending that [00:31:33] he he cares about Charlie Kirk? This is [00:31:35] bizarre. This is literally upside down. [00:31:39] That's when I said, "Okay, Israel's [00:31:40] involved." Because every time you see [00:31:41] Ben, you just assume Israel's involved. [00:31:42] He's also, by the way, randomly doing [00:31:44] things about Korea right now. Breaking [00:31:46] down what's going on in Korea. There's [00:31:47] also this Korean angle that's not making [00:31:50] sense. You You fumbled the ball there. [00:31:52] If I was running the game, I'd say, [00:31:54] "Hey, let's like pretend we're [00:31:58] only going to allow Charlie's friends [00:32:00] around because we're actually grieving." [00:32:02] This is where the PR went sideways. Um, [00:32:05] it just seemed like a a paytoplay is [00:32:08] what Amfest looked like. And it looked [00:32:09] like people that were paying Israel, [00:32:12] right? It seemed like Israel was paying. [00:32:14] I maybe I would have also waited to drop [00:32:17] the Shabbat Shalom book. Maybe while [00:32:20] people in the air were going, looks feel [00:32:21] like BB maybe did it cuz he's saying he [00:32:24] didn't. And it's kind of weird to feel [00:32:25] like you have to say you didn't. I would [00:32:27] have said maybe let's roll the book out [00:32:29] um Q1 2026 [00:32:32] and maybe let's not do it with Barry [00:32:33] Weiss. Feel like that's not like [00:32:35] Charlie's buddy. You guys didn't do [00:32:37] that. You kind of like went right in [00:32:38] there. So it it seemed um I think you [00:32:41] guys fumbled a bit there. Silly lies. uh [00:32:43] lies that didn't really make sense and I [00:32:46] don't know thinking that we were gonna [00:32:47] accept that like Laura Loomer and Ben [00:32:50] Shapiro were now the friends of Charlie [00:32:52] Kirk and the people that were actually [00:32:54] his friends were his enemies attacking [00:32:55] Tucker Carlson demanding he got [00:32:57] cancelled me attacking me non-stop you [00:33:01] fumbled I think you fumbled in the [00:33:03] performance I'm I am not sold on it and [00:33:07] um with what I know and what I'm getting [00:33:10] close to I don't think there will be a [00:33:12] person in the world that's sold on it. [00:33:14] So, other than uh the people who bought [00:33:16] and purchased who are are going to [00:33:18] become very obvious um in the coming [00:33:21] weeks is what I will say. Uh anyway, I [00:33:23] uh saw that Tim Dylan wrote his show uh [00:33:26] where he was lamenting how it's all just [00:33:29] so fake. Everything is so fake and that [00:33:31] is how it has felt from start to finish [00:33:35] here. everything that it it feels like [00:33:37] as he says, we are just kind of watching [00:33:40] a really bad reality show and you're [00:33:42] wondering when they're going to stop uh [00:33:44] when they're going to admit that they [00:33:46] lied about everything. They just kind of [00:33:47] keep going. [00:33:49] Here's what Tim Dylan had to say. [00:33:51] >> The tech people that were were very [00:33:53] liberal are now very right-wing and [00:33:55] they'll be very liberal and they don't [00:33:56] care. They don't care. And then the [00:33:59] people that came to power criticizing [00:34:01] free speech, criticizing uh the lack of [00:34:04] free speech on social media are now [00:34:06] shutting down free speech on social [00:34:08] media. [00:34:11] So it's obvious that that that a lot of [00:34:14] this is fake and it's performative. It's [00:34:17] a show. It's a reality show. [00:34:22] I mean, it's not a it's not necessarily [00:34:24] uh the funniest episode we've done, but [00:34:27] it is the truth. It is what's happening. [00:34:30] It is what's happening. [00:34:33] And in this time, [00:34:38] you can really only trust one per [00:34:40] There's one person that I trust in this [00:34:43] time. There's only one person I trust, [00:34:47] and it's Erica Kirk. [laughter] [00:34:51] Good night. [00:34:53] [gasps] [00:34:54] Ah, the comedians. I actually I I trust [00:34:58] that Erica Kirk with the quarter billion [00:35:00] dollars at Turning Point earned off of [00:35:03] the back of their employees who are [00:35:05] working 20our days and a sympathetic [00:35:07] public. Well, sadly, uh those employees [00:35:10] that were fired, not even given an [00:35:12] excuse, at least Aubrey got an excuse. [00:35:13] Some of them got nothing as we showed [00:35:15] you are now starting a GoFundMe [00:35:19] um because they didn't get anything. [00:35:20] They didn't get a bonus. They got [00:35:22] nothing. and they have put this up on [00:35:25] GoFundMe, the Purge Fallout Fund. I [00:35:28] believe this is supporting eight [00:35:29] employees. Um, and so I wanted to [00:35:31] promote this and I'm hopeful that Erica [00:35:33] can donate to it maybe. I mean, could [00:35:36] they get a hundred bucks for 20our days [00:35:42] 100 bucks for so they can get a grieving [00:35:44] counselor? Maybe they can buy himself a [00:35:45] dog to pet. I think that would be great. [00:35:47] If turning point, you say, "I can't [00:35:48] believe that they raised a quart million [00:35:49] dollars and these people are on [00:35:51] GoFundMe. It's so far beyond [00:35:55] uh the realm of okay. It's it's [00:35:59] it's just so evil. It's also evil that [00:36:01] we're gonna have to donate. It's us. [00:36:03] Everybody, if you got a dollar to [00:36:04] support these employees who were [00:36:06] traumatized and watching uh their [00:36:08] employer die, got zero days off, then [00:36:10] had to work 20our days through to the [00:36:13] end of the year through to Amfest and [00:36:15] then got fired without a reason. If you [00:36:17] would like to support these employees, [00:36:19] and you should, I am certainly going to, [00:36:22] you can head to the purge fallout [00:36:25] gofundme campaign. We will take a brief [00:36:28] break and we'll be right back. 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We're going to figure [00:39:08] this out. If you know something, more [00:39:10] tips at candace oowens.com. I have so [00:39:12] much more for you guys. I have been slow [00:39:14] playing this obviously because they [00:39:17] wanted to pressure me to put everything [00:39:18] out instantly, but I'm not an idiot. I [00:39:21] need to know every single person at that [00:39:23] company who betrayed Charlie. I need to [00:39:24] know every single one of them. I need to [00:39:25] know the good guys and the bad guys. And [00:39:28] um anyways, what I have to uh show you [00:39:31] guys next week is is just going to [00:39:32] completely blow your minds because I'm [00:39:33] beginning to work through how it all [00:39:35] worked and Charlie was completely and [00:39:37] utterly infiltrated. [00:39:39] Like I said, I know for a fact that that [00:39:41] billiondoll deal was real. It was not [00:39:44] imagined. Erica and Justin Strife know [00:39:46] exactly who Pierre is. Justin has met [00:39:48] with Pierre. So is Erica. [00:39:51] If you'd like to support our independent [00:39:52] work, you guys can head to the website. [00:39:54] You know, you can go to kownones.com. [00:39:56] You can buy uh new kits, gear, new [00:39:59] merch, always available. Uh also a [00:40:01] documentary, What a Woman Is available [00:40:03] for free on our website until 9:00 p.m. [00:40:05] Eastern tonight. So feel free to watch [00:40:06] that. Um and we also, by the way, if we [00:40:11] have now a Spanish, a Portuguese, and a [00:40:12] French channel. Good thing we have a [00:40:14] French channel because France is very [00:40:15] involved. My instincts were correct. How [00:40:19] did I get there? Well, following the [00:40:20] Egyptian plains, lol. Haha. Right, [00:40:23] Erica? Nobody from Egypt. [00:40:26] Yeah. What about Israel? [00:40:29] A lot of countries donating, I bet. [00:40:32] Top comment from last episode is, can we [00:40:36] stop calling them elites? Refer to them [00:40:38] instead as the elites, and we should [00:40:40] just refer to them as the cult. The [00:40:43] cult. The satanic cult. I totally agree [00:40:47] with you on that. Let's get some of your [00:40:49] comments from today's episode. We have [00:40:52] Courtsy, who is writing, can Oh, sorry. [00:40:54] I already read that. Cory Henry wrote, [00:40:55] "Candice, I love you. This is the Truman [00:40:57] Show." That's why Andrew said, "Candice, [00:40:58] it was supposed to be you." That was a [00:41:00] part, I think, of a very wellplanned [00:41:03] effort to psychologically traumatize me. [00:41:06] Um, they were trying to neutralize me [00:41:08] psychologically, like I said, cuz I I [00:41:11] was the one loose end. Everybody else is [00:41:13] working for some organization, being [00:41:15] told what they have to say, and I'm just [00:41:17] out here saying how I feel and willing [00:41:21] to lose money and take those risks [00:41:23] because I'm not siding with the side [00:41:28] that harms children. I'm just not going [00:41:29] to side with pedos. I'm not going to do [00:41:31] it. So, yeah, I think that was a part of [00:41:34] it. And it was sophisticated like [00:41:36] military level um SCOP if I'm being [00:41:39] honest psychological operation to [00:41:40] traumatize me and then to have people [00:41:42] fighting me before I can process what [00:41:43] happened to Charlie. They're coming [00:41:44] after me. They're attacking me. You get [00:41:46] all these uh influencers taking money. I [00:41:49] can't believe can and it was just meant [00:41:51] to wear me down. But it didn't work [00:41:54] because I read the Sigman Freud books. I [00:41:57] know what that what that looks like. I [00:41:58] knew but it was a psychological [00:41:59] operation. Um, and I got through it. And [00:42:02] I got through it in large part not uh [00:42:04] because I'm particularly tough, but [00:42:06] because I was motivated by true [00:42:08] friendship with Charlie. And I had the [00:42:12] people I had you guys telling me to keep [00:42:15] going and defending me in the comments [00:42:17] when I genuinely felt like I was just I [00:42:20] was just so confused. I I genuinely was [00:42:22] so confused at what was happening. like [00:42:24] why they were just going to pretend up [00:42:26] was down and down was up and that I was [00:42:28] the enemy when I was actually the [00:42:29] friend. And I I really do just from the [00:42:32] bottom of my heart want to thank you [00:42:33] guys because when I was definitely [00:42:36] feeling weak even if I didn't look like [00:42:37] it, you guys were strong. So I want to [00:42:40] say that the decentralized intelligence [00:42:43] agency has brought us to this moment. [00:42:45] This was not the work of me. It was the [00:42:47] work of everybody. Everybody had a piece [00:42:49] of the puzzle and I just pulled it [00:42:50] together on this podcast. Alaska dog [00:42:52] lady writes, "Truth wins. Christ is [00:42:54] king. They've got money. They always do. [00:42:57] They print it. We have truth." And what [00:43:01] also I think has happened is Charlie's [00:43:03] gone. Char Charlie was the godly one [00:43:05] there. Uh Charlie, that's like I said [00:43:08] yesterday, the the deal when you do a [00:43:11] deal with the devil, you you no longer [00:43:13] have access to the creative force. You [00:43:16] you have to steal, you have to lie, you [00:43:17] have to cheat, but you can't create. You [00:43:20] instantly be just become stale. And [00:43:21] that's what I am sensing and feeling at [00:43:23] Turning Point USA. Now you have to rely [00:43:25] on lawyers and legal letters and um [00:43:30] yeah, that's what happens sadly. [00:43:34] Mary Everett writes, "Uh, it's not [00:43:37] billions, but I hope that this helps. Do [00:43:39] not let these demons get away with it. [00:43:41] Thank you so much. And truly anybody [00:43:43] that's giving right now, I'd rather you [00:43:44] give to um the employees. I mean, just [00:43:49] what happened to them is horrible. I [00:43:50] can't believe we're saying, like I said, [00:43:51] this feels crazy. We're in like crazy [00:43:52] town right now. I'm asking you to give [00:43:54] to employees that worked for an [00:43:55] organization that made $250 million in a [00:43:59] couple of months. This is crazy town. Uh [00:44:01] but again, [00:44:03] we're we're the good people. Uh and they [00:44:06] deserve something. And by the way, that [00:44:08] she didn't mention this in the video, [00:44:10] but that young woman, they also then [00:44:12] fired her fiance. So their entire uh [00:44:16] income in one house was wiped out in one [00:44:18] day. [00:44:20] No explanation given to him. You're [00:44:22] married to the wrong person. I don't [00:44:23] know. US flag pole guy writes, "You s's [00:44:28] of bees are going to feel the wrath of [00:44:30] citizens of this republic. Who the hell [00:44:32] do you think you are to come into this [00:44:34] sovereign country and unal alive Charlie [00:44:36] and expect us to watch?" Yeah. They [00:44:39] wanted us to watch and then they yelled [00:44:42] at us for for still talking about it. I [00:44:44] it's it's [00:44:46] I laugh because it's it's like made up [00:44:49] evil where it's like cartoonishly evil, [00:44:51] right? It's actually if you put it in a [00:44:53] script and try to sell it in Hollywood, [00:44:54] they say, "Oh, this is just [00:44:55] unbelievable." It's just not. We can't [00:44:57] actually no one will actually believe [00:44:58] this is biblical evil. Truly biblical [00:45:01] evil. Cat lady for America writes, "Stay [00:45:04] safe, Candace. Go Max. The truth will [00:45:07] prevail." Um, GN2176 writes, "Yesterday, [00:45:11] I heard Candace revisit Charlie's plea, [00:45:14] the outcry to others concerning they are [00:45:17] going to kill me text. That is hugely [00:45:18] important in this case, not only for the [00:45:20] defense, but for the prosecution to [00:45:22] avoid them. Keep pushing on Charlie's [00:45:24] text messages." Yes, I said I'll say it [00:45:25] again. Those messages were sent on [00:45:29] iMessage. They unless someone deleted it [00:45:32] before they handed it to Erica. It's [00:45:34] possible, [00:45:37] you know, I'll throw that out there. [00:45:38] It's possible, but they were sent an [00:45:40] iMessage. I don't I don't think she's [00:45:42] not aware because whether the messages [00:45:45] existed or not, obviously in the course [00:45:48] of this investigation, Dan Flood and [00:45:51] Andrew Kovette would have told her that. [00:45:53] Hey, I got this text message. Uh Amy O [00:45:56] writes, you are Charlie's David Crisis [00:45:58] King. Keep going, Max and stay Max. [00:46:00] Thank you, Amy. Cohen film writes [00:46:02] boycott Turning Point USA's halftime [00:46:04] show. I forgot they made the [00:46:06] announcement about that halftime show. [00:46:08] You know, I like some of the uh [00:46:10] performers that are in it. I I can't I'm [00:46:13] sorry. Nope. Um won't stop liking those [00:46:17] individual performers, but I will not be [00:46:20] watching Turning Point USA's halftime [00:46:21] performance. [00:46:23] Kelly writes, "I am Catholic and I've [00:46:26] been with you and Charlie uh since [00:46:28] Prageru. Your conversion was in my [00:46:29] prayers then and your safety is in my [00:46:31] prayers now. I have no doubt Charlie is [00:46:33] in heaven with our lady praying for your [00:46:35] protection. Christ is king. [00:46:39] I I uh thank you so much. I think the [00:46:41] prayers have been guiding us. I feel [00:46:44] that the the way the path has been lit [00:46:47] in certain ways. I get an email at the [00:46:49] right time and then the puzzle is [00:46:51] starting to come together and we are [00:46:53] getting very close to a full picture [00:46:54] without question. Jonathan Newton writes [00:46:57] in Acts 7:43, Steven tells the Jews [00:46:59] before they killed him that they carried [00:47:01] the star of Refen in the wilderness. [00:47:03] That's correct. Um, that's a six-pointed [00:47:06] star. Also in Zechariah 5:11, it says [00:47:08] that wickedness will return. That is [00:47:12] where Babylon is. I love your show. I [00:47:15] agree. And um, thank you guys. I mean, [00:47:17] this has been a journey speaking about I [00:47:19] I have learned so much and I think we've [00:47:21] all learned so much. I mean, we're [00:47:22] talking about Gilgamesh on this show and [00:47:24] Nimrod and we're talking about the Bible [00:47:25] and true evil. And I have to think that [00:47:28] that awakening is is one thing good [00:47:30] that's come out of this. I I think [00:47:33] many of us were asleep. Even those of us [00:47:35] who feel like we were awake couldn't [00:47:38] comprehend this level of evil. And it is [00:47:41] this level of evil without question. So, [00:47:44] uh we will see you guys on Monday. [00:47:49] >> [music]