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[00:00:01] Good evening. The single biggest
[00:00:04] political issue divide in the United
[00:00:06] States right now is ICE. Minneapolis is
[00:00:10] a disaster tonight. There is widespread
[00:00:13] violence, mob violence. There is
[00:00:16] political turmoil, chaos really. We're
[00:00:19] going to be going live there in a
[00:00:20] moment. Nick Sorder who's been covering
[00:00:21] all this and shot some amazing video
[00:00:23] will speak to one of the pastors of the
[00:00:25] church that was invaded by lunatics by
[00:00:29] anti-ICE activists. It really is the
[00:00:31] mobilizing force on the left and it's
[00:00:33] the focus of much of the right and it's
[00:00:36] about a lot of different things. On the
[00:00:38] surface it's about of course who has
[00:00:40] authority over the borders. Does federal
[00:00:43] authority mean anything? It's about law
[00:00:45] enforcement. To what extent can you
[00:00:48] pursue criminals in your own country?
[00:00:51] It's of course about immigration.
[00:00:54] ICE standing for immigration and customs
[00:00:56] enforcement of course, but big picture
[00:01:00] it's about something much bigger. And
[00:01:01] that's why it's become such a passionate
[00:01:04] divide. The battle over ICE is really
[00:01:09] a battle over demographic change in the
[00:01:12] United States. Who gets to live here?
[00:01:14] Which is always and everywhere the
[00:01:16] fundamental question in any country. Who
[00:01:19] lives there? Who are these people? What
[00:01:21] are they like? And in our country, that
[00:01:25] question has basically not been
[00:01:27] addressed out loud for the past 60
[00:01:30] years, even as the population of the
[00:01:32] United States has changed dramatically.
[00:01:35] And that's one of the reasons the battle
[00:01:38] over ICE and its jurisdiction and what
[00:01:40] to do with all the people living in the
[00:01:42] United States illegally has become so
[00:01:44] passionate and so fraught because no one
[00:01:46] is saying out loud what exactly this is
[00:01:49] about. And so as a first step to making
[00:01:52] things better, it would help to see
[00:01:55] things clearly. So let's talk about what
[00:01:58] exactly is going on in the United States
[00:02:01] and why it's led to the battles in say
[00:02:03] Minneapolis. What's happening in the
[00:02:04] United States is a wholesale change of
[00:02:07] who lives here, total demographic
[00:02:11] change. Now, some have called this
[00:02:13] replacement.
[00:02:15] And the question is, is it really
[00:02:16] replacement? So, we thought we would
[00:02:18] look it up. If you were someone
[00:02:21] following along at home trying to figure
[00:02:22] out, you know, what is everyone so mad
[00:02:24] about?
[00:02:26] What is this great replacement theory?
[00:02:28] You might go, as almost everybody does,
[00:02:30] first to Google and just type in great
[00:02:31] replacement theory. AI would come up
[00:02:33] with the following result. This is hot
[00:02:36] off Google AI. Here's what it says. If
[00:02:38] you look up great replacement theory on
[00:02:40] Google, we're quoting the Grace
[00:02:43] Replacement theory is a debunked,
[00:02:45] meaning untrue, far-right, meaning Nazi,
[00:02:47] white nationalist, meaning racist,
[00:02:49] conspiracy, claiming that white
[00:02:52] populations, particularly in Europe and
[00:02:53] the US, are being deliberately replaced
[00:02:55] by non-white immigrants and minorities,
[00:02:58] often orchestrated by replaces, leading
[00:03:00] to demographic shifts and cultural
[00:03:02] erosion, fueling extremist violence and
[00:03:04] anti-immigrant sentiment. That's one
[00:03:06] sentence. by the way a run-on sentence,
[00:03:08] but it is AI and it's quite a sentence
[00:03:11] and it tells you point blank this is not
[00:03:13] true. Anyone who believes in it is
[00:03:16] deranged and is
[00:03:19] stoking violence simply by believing in
[00:03:21] it. And it goes on to explain how this
[00:03:23] works. The theory quote posits that mass
[00:03:26] migration, declining white birth rates,
[00:03:29] and political agendas by elites are
[00:03:31] intentionally replacing white
[00:03:33] populations. It has inspired numerous
[00:03:36] acts of mass murder violence with
[00:03:39] perpetrators often citing this theory.
[00:03:42] Research shows that endorsers of the
[00:03:44] great replacement theory often hold
[00:03:46] antisocial traits, authoritarian views,
[00:03:49] and negative attitudes toward minorities
[00:03:52] and immigrants.
[00:03:54] In other words, once again, believing
[00:03:57] that the population of this or any other
[00:03:59] country is being manipulated by people
[00:04:01] in power and the people who were born
[00:04:03] here are being replaced by people who
[00:04:04] weren't believing that
[00:04:07] is not only wrong. It's misinformation.
[00:04:10] It's been debunked.
[00:04:12] It's also dangerous. You can kill people
[00:04:15] by believing that. Well, how does that
[00:04:18] work exactly? It doesn't sound like a
[00:04:22] cool objective analysis of the theory of
[00:04:25] replacement. It sounds instead like well
[00:04:28] a political screed, but maybe even more
[00:04:30] than that. It sounds like an article of
[00:04:32] religious faith. You're not allowed to
[00:04:35] believe this. Only bad people believe
[00:04:38] it. It's apostasy.
[00:04:40] It could lead to death believing that.
[00:04:43] And that seemed a little emotional for
[00:04:45] us.
[00:04:47] So we decided instead to consult the
[00:04:49] science because obviously we believe the
[00:04:52] science and the science as always begins
[00:04:55] with numbers, things that are
[00:04:56] quantifiable, that are measurable. And
[00:04:58] one of the ways we know the truth about
[00:05:00] who lives here is through the census
[00:05:03] taken every 10 years. It's in the
[00:05:04] constitution. And that provides us not
[00:05:07] precise numbers, but a pretty accurate
[00:05:11] general picture most of the time and
[00:05:13] certainly overtime of who lives here.
[00:05:16] So, let's start because it's a easy and
[00:05:18] obvious place to start. The beginning of
[00:05:20] the post-war era, peak America, 1950,
[00:05:23] the first post-war census. And I think
[00:05:26] everyone would agree, whether they're
[00:05:28] right or wrong, that this is a period
[00:05:30] remembered as the best time in America,
[00:05:32] 1950.
[00:05:34] United States is an an industrial power.
[00:05:37] It's the leader of the West, if not
[00:05:39] really the world.
[00:05:42] And America domestically is pretty
[00:05:44] harmonious, thriving, happy.
[00:05:49] Let's take a look at who lived in
[00:05:50] America in 1950. And let's do that by
[00:05:54] taking a closer look at the population
[00:05:56] of the top six cities, which at the time
[00:05:58] were, and this tells you a lot right
[00:06:00] here. New York was number one, Chicago
[00:06:04] was number two, Philadelphia was number
[00:06:05] three, Los Angeles number four, Detroit
[00:06:09] number five, Baltimore number six. Kind
[00:06:12] of hard to imagine, but in 1950, not
[00:06:14] that long ago, within living memory,
[00:06:15] those were the numbers. So, here's what
[00:06:16] they were. The biggest city in the
[00:06:18] United States then and now was New York
[00:06:20] City. New York City in 1950 was 90%
[00:06:24] white. 71 million New Yorkers out of 7.9
[00:06:28] million were white. Chicago in 1950 was
[00:06:31] 86% white. Philadelphia over 80%. Los
[00:06:35] Angeles 94% white. 94% white. That's
[00:06:39] almost an ethnost state actually at that
[00:06:40] point. Detroit, Detroit, Michigan, home
[00:06:44] of Ford, GM, and Chrysler, 84% white.
[00:06:48] Baltimore,
[00:06:50] steel and shipping capital of the
[00:06:51] Mid-Atlantic,
[00:06:53] 76% white. That was 1950. You know,
[00:06:56] people who were alive in 1950. Maybe you
[00:06:58] were. Here are the numbers today.
[00:07:01] Baltimore 27% white. Detroit about 10%
[00:07:06] white, down from 84. Los Angeles again
[00:07:09] 94% about 37% white. Now Philadelphia
[00:07:13] 36%. Chicago less than 30%.
[00:07:17] And New York City, again the biggest
[00:07:20] city in the country, is now around 30%
[00:07:23] white, down from 90% in 1950.
[00:07:27] So you think to yourself, well maybe
[00:07:28] these cities have just shrunk and a lot
[00:07:30] of them have. Baltimore, Detroit,
[00:07:32] Philadelphia, Chicago, all much smaller
[00:07:33] than they were. What's interesting is
[00:07:35] that New York is bigger than it was. But
[00:07:37] a million people more live in New York
[00:07:39] than they did in 1950. And yet the
[00:07:42] proportion of whites has declined
[00:07:45] well from 90% to 30. But so is the
[00:07:48] absolute number.
[00:07:50] New York has lost about 4 million white
[00:07:53] people even as it gained a million
[00:07:56] people in population.
[00:07:58] What is that? Now, in some of these
[00:08:00] cities,
[00:08:01] there are economic reasons for this,
[00:08:03] right? A lot of African-Americans moved
[00:08:05] up from the south to work at the auto
[00:08:07] plants in Detroit, to work at the
[00:08:10] harbor, at the shipyards, the steel
[00:08:12] plant in Baltimore, etc., etc., etc.,
[00:08:16] but not all of it. And in New York City,
[00:08:20] almost all the demographic change is the
[00:08:22] result of immigration. And that began in
[00:08:26] 1965, which is definitely within living
[00:08:28] memory of a lot of people watching this
[00:08:30] right now.
[00:08:32] So that's another and very long way of
[00:08:34] saying the great replacement is not only
[00:08:37] real, it's the realest thing there is
[00:08:40] and it's provably true. So, why would
[00:08:43] they go out of their way to tell you
[00:08:45] it's a debunked far-right racist
[00:08:48] conspiracy theory believed in only by
[00:08:51] antisocial lunatics who commit mass
[00:08:53] murder?
[00:08:55] Well, probably because it's true. And in
[00:08:57] telling you that, whoever wrote that,
[00:09:01] you have to ask yourself, who would
[00:09:02] write that and why? And it's not just,
[00:09:03] of course, in AI and Google or
[00:09:05] Wikipedia. It's everywhere. There's
[00:09:07] almost nobody who admits that that's
[00:09:09] true, even though it's provably true.
[00:09:10] It's indisputably true.
[00:09:13] In fact, there's a list on Wikipedia of
[00:09:15] all the people who believe in it, the
[00:09:17] thought criminals who believe this could
[00:09:18] possibly be true. Apparently, people who
[00:09:21] don't have access to census numbers
[00:09:25] don't believe it's true. But, you know,
[00:09:26] the 19 figures in American public life
[00:09:28] who do have access to the census numbers
[00:09:30] somehow believe this is true. But
[00:09:32] they're telling you it's not. But what
[00:09:34] they're leaving out of course is that
[00:09:38] demographic change is a constant through
[00:09:41] history and it is almost always mass
[00:09:45] demographic change. Turnover replacement
[00:09:48] is almost always the result of human
[00:09:52] choice.
[00:09:54] Populations change because leaders
[00:09:57] decide they should change. Population
[00:10:00] demographics. The question of who lives
[00:10:01] within the borders of a country is not
[00:10:03] only a concern of leaders of
[00:10:06] governments. It is the main concern.
[00:10:09] It's the main thing they think about. So
[00:10:11] the rest of us imagine that the
[00:10:13] government concerns itself with
[00:10:14] collecting taxes,
[00:10:17] schools, national defense, and those are
[00:10:20] all concerns. But we are thinking way
[00:10:22] too small. The people who run countries
[00:10:25] who map out the future of civilizations
[00:10:28] think in much larger terms than the rest
[00:10:30] of us. This is not a guess, by the way.
[00:10:32] This is true. They think in terms of who
[00:10:35] lives here, what do they like? How many
[00:10:37] of them are there? And there are plenty
[00:10:40] of levers that they can move to change
[00:10:43] those numbers. Obvious not so obvious.
[00:10:45] War being the most obvious, killing
[00:10:47] people, unleashing pandemics on them,
[00:10:49] obvious. less obvious. Encouraging
[00:10:53] different ways of living, encouraging
[00:10:54] birth control or abortion, scrambling
[00:10:57] the genders,
[00:10:58] encouraging women to work outside the
[00:11:01] home has one of the largest effects on
[00:11:04] demographics, of course, because women
[00:11:06] who work during childbearing years are
[00:11:08] much less likely to have lots of
[00:11:09] children. In fact, many of them won't
[00:11:10] have any children. And that has proven
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[00:11:51] 30th. So why would governments do this?
[00:11:54] Well, that's kind of the more complex
[00:11:55] question. They do it. They've always
[00:11:57] done it. They would do it for a couple
[00:12:00] of reasons. One, to meet a short-term
[00:12:03] economic goal or even a long-term
[00:12:04] economic goal. Short-term might be who's
[00:12:06] going to pick the grapes in California?
[00:12:08] Oh, better get some Mexicans.
[00:12:10] Understandable. Most people are familiar
[00:12:12] with that. Others might be longer term
[00:12:15] adjustments to changes that no one can
[00:12:18] really control like AI. Oh, wait a
[00:12:21] second. We're not going to need as many
[00:12:22] people here because machines are going
[00:12:24] to do a lot of the work. How are we
[00:12:25] going to support these people? That
[00:12:27] might be another reason. And of course,
[00:12:29] there might be darker motives or more
[00:12:32] basic motives like the innate human
[00:12:36] desire to conquer other people to
[00:12:38] replace your group with my group.
[00:12:41] That's not a conspiracy theory. That's
[00:12:43] the entire story of history.
[00:12:46] Mass movements of people by force has
[00:12:49] been a constant since the Babylonian
[00:12:51] captivity and probably before
[00:12:53] unrecorded.
[00:12:55] That is the story of history and it's
[00:12:57] all around us, but we don't even notice.
[00:12:59] The history of Ireland is that story.
[00:13:01] Ireland, which is an island near
[00:13:03] England,
[00:13:05] was after Henry VIII Catholic. England
[00:13:08] was Protestant.
[00:13:10] The English took over Ireland, Ireland,
[00:13:12] it was their colony.
[00:13:14] And in order to make it more compliant
[00:13:16] and to
[00:13:18] control the people there and to impose
[00:13:21] their culture on a foreign peoples, they
[00:13:24] moved many thousands of foreigners into
[00:13:28] Ireland. There were the AngloIrish or
[00:13:29] Brits who moved to Ireland. That was the
[00:13:30] ruling class of the country. There were
[00:13:33] the ScotsIrish who were moved from
[00:13:35] Scotland into Ireland. And in so doing,
[00:13:38] a Protestant region of the country was
[00:13:41] created called Olter. It's still there.
[00:13:43] It's still mo at least half Protestant.
[00:13:46] And at one point, the Brits move moved
[00:13:48] the Hugenos in the 17th century from
[00:13:50] France. They were a mostly forgotten
[00:13:52] group now,
[00:13:54] but they were expelled from France
[00:13:56] during the series of Catholic Protestant
[00:13:58] religious conflicts that swept through
[00:13:59] Europe after Martin Luther. And the
[00:14:02] Brits said, "Well, I've got an idea. Why
[00:14:03] don't you move to Ireland?" and they
[00:14:05] move them to Ireland, mostly to Dublin.
[00:14:08] Why?
[00:14:09] To change the demographic balance of
[00:14:12] Ireland to make it easier to subdue and
[00:14:14] to rub the noses of the people in their
[00:14:18] culture to replace the culture, the
[00:14:20] customs, the religion of the indigenous
[00:14:23] population because they could. That's
[00:14:25] why that's how people have done it
[00:14:28] throughout history. And by the way, then
[00:14:31] they went farther in Ireland, not to
[00:14:32] dwell in Ireland, but it's very
[00:14:34] interesting actually.
[00:14:36] Not only did they move all kinds of
[00:14:38] foreigners into Ireland to change the
[00:14:40] demographic mix to affect a great
[00:14:42] replacement,
[00:14:44] they began to change the national
[00:14:46] monuments. Oh, that's weird. Have you
[00:14:48] seen that before?
[00:14:50] St. Patrick's Cathedral in the middle of
[00:14:51] Dublin. Got to be one of the biggest ca
[00:14:54] Catholic shrines in Ireland.
[00:14:58] They made it Anglican.
[00:15:00] No longer Catholic. It's Anglican now.
[00:15:02] Jonathan Swift preached there. Actually,
[00:15:05] an AngloIrishman and so did many others.
[00:15:08] But in the center of this Catholic
[00:15:11] country, the colonial power moved non-
[00:15:15] indigenous people in in order to make
[00:15:17] the case this is ours now. And you see
[00:15:20] that everywhere.
[00:15:22] When the street across from the White
[00:15:23] House gets repainted in Black Lives
[00:15:25] Matter colors, it's kind of a species of
[00:15:28] that, right? When the Confederate
[00:15:29] statues are torn down in Richmond and
[00:15:31] New Orleans, is it really an effort to
[00:15:34] improve the lives of local black people?
[00:15:36] No. Of course, it didn't work. Didn't
[00:15:38] have any effect. No. It was a matter of
[00:15:41] cultural imperialism. We run this now.
[00:15:43] Down with your monuments, up with ours.
[00:15:46] It's Pride Week.
[00:15:48] It is the most recognizable pattern in
[00:15:52] history.
[00:15:54] It's one people conquering another. It's
[00:15:57] what the Mongols did in the 13th and
[00:15:59] 14th century. They swept through China.
[00:16:02] They swept all the way to Europe, of
[00:16:03] course, across Russia, famously.
[00:16:06] And they completely changed the
[00:16:08] populations of half the world. It was
[00:16:10] the largest empire in history by land
[00:16:12] mass. And along the way, they also did
[00:16:15] something that no one likes to talk
[00:16:16] about. They raped a lot of women. Why'
[00:16:18] they do that? Well, partly to spread
[00:16:21] their genetics. Just a fact. We can say
[00:16:23] this cuz it was the Mongols. It was a
[00:16:24] long time ago. Genghask Khan, the head
[00:16:28] Mongol,
[00:16:31] the creator of that empire,
[00:16:33] has 16 million living descendants in the
[00:16:37] world today. 16 million.
[00:16:40] That tells you what a prolific
[00:16:43] rapist he was. But why did he do that?
[00:16:45] So he would have 16 million descendants.
[00:16:47] Of course, the rape of Berlin after the
[00:16:50] war, the rape of Nan King at the
[00:16:51] beginning of the war.
[00:16:53] Untold mass rapes through history. These
[00:16:56] are acts of violence and brutality and
[00:16:58] subjugation, of course. But they're also
[00:17:00] acts of demographic change. That's what
[00:17:02] they are. Not endorsing that, decrying
[00:17:05] it. It's disgusting.
[00:17:08] But it's also real and it's happened
[00:17:10] throughout history.
[00:17:12] one people conquering another.
[00:17:17] And these are decisions not
[00:17:20] made organically, not like millions of
[00:17:22] people get together and decide let's
[00:17:23] change the demographics of a continent,
[00:17:25] a region. Let's destroy a people. These
[00:17:29] are decisions made by leaders each and
[00:17:32] every single time.
[00:17:35] China takes Tibet. What's the first
[00:17:36] thing they do? Move HanChinese into
[00:17:38] Tibet. Why do they do that? Well, to
[00:17:40] subjugate, to make a point. Ours is
[00:17:42] superior culture to yours,
[00:17:45] but also to control.
[00:17:48] Once again, this is not a conspiracy
[00:17:51] theory. This is the story of recorded
[00:17:54] history, and it's a story of the present
[00:17:56] day, obviously.
[00:17:59] And only a country completely divorced
[00:18:04] from history, from human nature, from
[00:18:07] reality itself could ever fall for, ooh,
[00:18:12] it's a debunked far-right white
[00:18:14] nationalist conspiracy theory.
[00:18:17] Really?
[00:18:19] No, it's not. It's just the opposite.
[00:18:21] It's the realest thing that ever
[00:18:23] happened.
[00:18:25] And that's not even a judgment.
[00:18:28] It's just a fact. When you want to
[00:18:30] control a place, you change the
[00:18:33] demographics. In 1947,
[00:18:37] mandate Palestine, what's now Israel,
[00:18:40] was about 80% Arab. The next year was
[00:18:44] what, like 32% Arab. the next year after
[00:18:48] the War of Independence in 1948. I'm not
[00:18:50] attacking anyone at all, but the point
[00:18:53] is Israel was a majority Jewish country
[00:18:58] on day one.
[00:19:01] That was the whole point of displacing
[00:19:03] everybody. We're here now. You're gone.
[00:19:05] It was a great replacement.
[00:19:09] Not casting aspersions, just saying that
[00:19:12] all
[00:19:14] wars are in in effect that they're all
[00:19:17] that way. Every one of them, including
[00:19:19] the one that we're living through that
[00:19:21] is undeclared, that no one will admit is
[00:19:22] happening because it's a conspiracy
[00:19:23] theory, but it's the realest thing that
[00:19:25] ever happened. So then we get to the
[00:19:27] question of motive, like why is this
[00:19:29] happening? Why would you do that? Why
[00:19:31] would you want to do that? Why would you
[00:19:33] want to hurt people and erase them?
[00:19:37] Well, the most obvious motive would be
[00:19:40] power. And that's usually the motive or
[00:19:42] one of the motives. And in this country,
[00:19:45] it's really clear that one of the
[00:19:47] reasons this is happening is because the
[00:19:50] Democratic Party and their overlords,
[00:19:52] who are not partisan, they're just the
[00:19:53] biggest shareholders in the country, the
[00:19:56] richest people in the country, would
[00:19:59] like to have uncontested power. And so
[00:20:02] if you let in tens of millions of
[00:20:05] immigrants, illegal aliens
[00:20:08] over 60 years,
[00:20:11] you're probably going to reach a point
[00:20:13] where they just openly participate in
[00:20:15] the political system where they get a
[00:20:17] vote, thereby diluting, replacing
[00:20:22] the voters who don't vote for you. This
[00:20:25] is clearly the plan. It's always been
[00:20:26] the plan, part of the plan. And Stacy
[00:20:30] Abrams, who was a perennial candidate in
[00:20:32] Georgia and somehow very famous, not
[00:20:33] exactly clear why, but had one sort of
[00:20:38] unique talent. She was dumb enough to
[00:20:39] say this out loud. Here's Stacy Abrams
[00:20:42] in 2018.
[00:20:43] >> The Blue Wave is African-American.
[00:20:48] >> It's white. It's Latino. It's
[00:20:49] AsianPacific Islander.
[00:20:52] >> It is disabled.
[00:20:54] >> IT IS DIFFERENTLY AABLED.
[00:20:56] >> IT IS LGBTQ. YES,
[00:20:58] >> IT IS LAW ENFORCEMENT.
[00:21:00] >> IT IS VETERANS.
[00:21:01] >> YES,
[00:21:02] >> IT IS MADE UP OF THOSE WHO'VE been told
[00:21:04] that THEY ARE NOT WORTHY OF BEING HERE.
[00:21:06] >> IT IS COMPRISED OF THOSE WHO are
[00:21:08] documented and undocumented.
[00:21:12] >> She's rolling. She's trying to remember
[00:21:14] who's in the coalition. The aabled. The
[00:21:18] what do we call them? Crippled. No. No.
[00:21:20] Differently aabled. Differently aabled.
[00:21:22] She's like going through the litany.
[00:21:24] white, black, Latino, Pacific Islander,
[00:21:28] people from Fiji, the gays, sorry, LGBTQ
[00:21:32] questioning whatever
[00:21:35] the documented, the undocumented. Oh,
[00:21:38] wait a second. Stacy Abrams, did you
[00:21:40] just say that illegal aliens are going
[00:21:42] to vote in elections? Federal elections?
[00:21:44] I think that's against the law. No,
[00:21:45] whatever. You can't stop her. Stacy
[00:21:47] Abrams, no one no one has the brass to
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[00:23:19] saying out loud what everybody
[00:23:20] [clears throat]
[00:23:20] knows. Everybody's always known. The
[00:23:23] reason that you move people in
[00:23:27] is so you get more votes. And anyone who
[00:23:30] thinks that's not true isn't being
[00:23:33] honest with himself and isn't being
[00:23:36] reality based. This is not about the
[00:23:38] economy. Why would you 5 years ago at
[00:23:41] the beginning of the Biden
[00:23:42] administration when you know cuz you're
[00:23:44] promoting it that AI is right around the
[00:23:46] corner and we're going to need a lot
[00:23:47] less labor really really soon and we're
[00:23:49] talking about oh wow I guess we we're
[00:23:51] going to have to give people guaranteed
[00:23:54] income because they're just going to
[00:23:55] have nothing to do all day at that exact
[00:23:58] moment. Why would you move in tens of
[00:24:00] millions of lowskilled laborers with
[00:24:01] eighth grade eighth grade educations?
[00:24:03] Like what are they going to do? No one
[00:24:04] even addressed the question because it
[00:24:06] had nothing to do with why they were
[00:24:07] brought in.
[00:24:08] wasn't to help the United States. And of
[00:24:11] course, mass migration has not helped
[00:24:13] the United States. One very obvious
[00:24:15] point that lingers in the air, you don't
[00:24:17] even want to address it because it's so
[00:24:18] depressing, is how are those six cities
[00:24:21] we mentioned at the outset doing today
[00:24:23] in 2026, the six biggest cities in the
[00:24:25] country in 1950.
[00:24:29] Again, it was New York, Chicago, Los
[00:24:32] Angeles, Detroit, Philadelphia,
[00:24:36] Baltimore.
[00:24:38] I mean, they're nice places in some of
[00:24:40] those cities. Some of them are just
[00:24:41] slums, actually. And there are
[00:24:44] complicated reasons why manufacturing
[00:24:46] died. Some of those are big
[00:24:47] manufacturing hubs, of course.
[00:24:50] Immigration is not the only reason.
[00:24:52] Nothing is ever the only reason.
[00:24:55] But all of those cities were completely
[00:24:57] changed by immigration. And they all got
[00:24:58] way worse. Much worse. Like much, much
[00:25:01] worse. Philadelphia, really? Baltimore,
[00:25:03] Detroit.
[00:25:05] So it didn't help. And in some places
[00:25:07] like Los Angeles, it just destroyed the
[00:25:09] city completely and destroyed the state.
[00:25:11] Completely destroyed the state. You want
[00:25:13] to know what's wrong with California?
[00:25:15] Too much immigration. It was amazing
[00:25:17] state in 1980. I remember it well. You
[00:25:20] wouldn't want to live there now. And
[00:25:22] because the governor is like a white
[00:25:24] liberal, you sort of forget
[00:25:27] that the people live in California look
[00:25:29] nothing like the people who live there
[00:25:30] in 1980 at all when it was the least
[00:25:33] corrupt and most functional state with
[00:25:35] the best schools and the lowest poverty
[00:25:36] rate. It now has more poverty than any
[00:25:38] state. It's got more immigrants than any
[00:25:40] state. There's just a one to one.
[00:25:43] So, and it's not an attack on the
[00:25:44] immigrants at all. Many of whom are
[00:25:47] hardworking and nice. Some of whom are
[00:25:48] not hardworking or nice, but a lot of
[00:25:50] them are. Latin immigrants tend to be
[00:25:53] pretty great when you when you know
[00:25:54] them.
[00:25:56] Enthusiastic participants in the
[00:25:58] economy.
[00:26:00] But taken as a whole, immigration
[00:26:02] totally destroyed California just flat
[00:26:04] out. There's no other factor meaningful
[00:26:06] factor. That's the single biggest factor
[00:26:08] in the destruction of California. And
[00:26:09] you're ordered to pretend that didn't
[00:26:11] happen. Oh, but it did happen. And one
[00:26:14] of the effects was, as noted, it gave
[00:26:16] Democrats complete control over the
[00:26:18] state. Complete. It's a one party state,
[00:26:20] period. And you often run into
[00:26:22] Republicans from Santa Barbara, Orange
[00:26:24] County, or up near Mount Shasta, from
[00:26:26] Reading, you know, and they're as
[00:26:28] conservative as anybody you've ever ever
[00:26:30] met in your life. There's some real
[00:26:31] right-wingers in California, but they
[00:26:32] have no say in anything because they
[00:26:34] control nothing because of immigration.
[00:26:36] It's literally that simple. So it works
[00:26:39] and that model will be repeated unless
[00:26:41] someone puts the brakes on immediately
[00:26:43] across the country. So there are 14
[00:26:46] states plus DC as of tonight that have
[00:26:49] no voter ID laws. And in some places
[00:26:51] you're not allowed to ask for voter ID
[00:26:53] just flat out. But in 14 states you need
[00:26:55] no identification in order to vote. Why
[00:26:57] is that? Well, so illegals can vote.
[00:26:59] It's literally that simple. It's not
[00:27:00] more complicated than that. So illegals
[00:27:02] can vote. And that means you have no
[00:27:07] power if you're a native born American,
[00:27:09] if you're an actual citizen of the
[00:27:10] country, because your vote is being
[00:27:12] canceled and in places like California
[00:27:14] completely overwhelmed by people who
[00:27:15] aren't from here who have no right to
[00:27:16] vote, but they're voting anyway. And
[00:27:19] what's interesting is that of the 14
[00:27:21] states with no voter ID law,
[00:27:25] three are in the top five biggest states
[00:27:28] by population,
[00:27:30] three out of our top five biggest states
[00:27:33] have no voter ID law. That's enough to
[00:27:36] make those states Democrat. By the way,
[00:27:38] for the record, those would be
[00:27:40] California, number one in all
[00:27:42] categories,
[00:27:44] Illinois, and Pennsylvania have no voter
[00:27:47] ID. So, that's enough to swing a
[00:27:49] presidential election. Sorry, it is. And
[00:27:52] there's no way to stop it unless you
[00:27:54] were to ban and then enforce voting with
[00:27:57] no ID. You'd have to enforce it.
[00:28:00] But at this point, we're not enforcing
[00:28:01] much. And we'll show you how little
[00:28:03] we're enforcing in just a minute. No one
[00:28:05] is enforcing the law in a lot of parts
[00:28:07] of the country. It's becoming in fact an
[00:28:10] insurrection and we'll show you that in
[00:28:12] a minute. But to the second motive here
[00:28:14] which is inescapable and it's almost it
[00:28:16] is uncomfortable to talk about but it is
[00:28:17] the subtext behind a lot of this is
[00:28:20] racial triumphalism is hatred is
[00:28:23] loathing for the people being replaced
[00:28:26] which doesn't make intuitive sense. Why
[00:28:29] would you be mad at people you're
[00:28:31] replacing? Well it's not clear. There
[00:28:33] are obviously spiritual components here
[00:28:34] too which probably no mortal understands
[00:28:36] but they're real. They're evident. What
[00:28:39] is this? Why would you do that? Why
[00:28:42] would you make why you totally change
[00:28:44] the population of Australia, New
[00:28:45] Zealand? Why would you totally check
[00:28:46] Canada, Great Britain? Every English-sp
[00:28:50] speakaking white country is becoming
[00:28:51] non-white at very high speed, faster
[00:28:55] than any time probably since the Mongol
[00:28:57] invasions.
[00:28:58] So why would you do that? And what
[00:29:01] happens when you do that? Well, it's
[00:29:04] interesting and this is a feature of
[00:29:05] human nature. And it's not just white,
[00:29:07] black, Hispanic. It's probably all
[00:29:09] races, but this is just true.
[00:29:12] Former majorities don't get treated
[00:29:14] well.
[00:29:16] But you really can't think of a case
[00:29:18] where a people has gone from majority to
[00:29:21] minority and then was treated well. It
[00:29:23] just kind of hasn't happened. Including
[00:29:25] in this country, by the way, the
[00:29:26] American Indians, not treated well.
[00:29:28] carted off to Oklahoma. Had to walk.
[00:29:30] Actually, no carts.
[00:29:33] What happened to the white minority in
[00:29:35] Zimbabwe? They voluntarily relinquished
[00:29:38] power. Then they were killed. South
[00:29:41] Africa, they're in the process of being
[00:29:42] killed. They voluntarily once again
[00:29:43] voluntarily relinquish power. They had
[00:29:45] nuclear weapons in 1994. Gave up the
[00:29:47] nuclear weapons, gave up power, went to
[00:29:50] majority rule system. It was a peaceful
[00:29:53] transition. D Clerk Mandela, you
[00:29:55] remember the scenes from 1994. or how'd
[00:29:58] that end? Well, it's not over yet, but
[00:30:01] the persecution of the people formerly
[00:30:04] in power began very, very quickly. How
[00:30:06] did it wind up for the Palestinians?
[00:30:08] As noted, they were 80% of Israel in
[00:30:11] 1947, 30% in 1948. How's it gone for
[00:30:15] them since? Not well. A lot have been
[00:30:19] killed. And it's complicated. They did
[00:30:21] bad things, too. By the way, the Indians
[00:30:23] sculped a lot of people and a partate
[00:30:25] was bad. I mean, you know, there are
[00:30:26] lots of
[00:30:28] lenses through which you could view
[00:30:30] this, but if you stand back,
[00:30:32] former majorities who become minorities
[00:30:37] tend to be killed. You hope that's not
[00:30:39] true, but it seems to be.
[00:30:43] And it's especially distressing
[00:30:46] when you look at the attitude of people
[00:30:50] in the United States who are pushing for
[00:30:52] mass demographic change. And just to put
[00:30:54] a tighter focus on it,
[00:30:58] people who are pushing for an end to the
[00:31:00] white majority.
[00:31:03] Oh, it's white supremacist to say that.
[00:31:05] No, it's not. It's an acknowledgement of
[00:31:08] reality. And by the way, if you're
[00:31:10] looking for hatred,
[00:31:13] it's not a lot of white supremacists.
[00:31:15] Well, even visible in public. Where are
[00:31:16] all these white supremacists we keep
[00:31:17] hearing about? But the people who are
[00:31:20] concerned about total demographic change
[00:31:22] don't seem like the hateful ones. It's
[00:31:24] the people espousing it who have a weird
[00:31:27] gleam in their eye
[00:31:30] and a detectable loathing in their
[00:31:32] voice.
[00:31:33] And very often, and this may be the
[00:31:35] darkest feature of it, it's not just
[00:31:37] hatred, it's selfhatred.
[00:31:41] And keep in mind that anyone who will
[00:31:42] hate himself will have no problem at all
[00:31:44] hating and hurting you. Here's Nancy
[00:31:47] Pelosi a few years ago. Keep in mind she
[00:31:52] was the speaker of the house, third in
[00:31:54] line to the presidency. And this is part
[00:31:56] of a speech she gave on the House floor
[00:31:59] about demographic change. Watch this.
[00:32:01] >> I'm reminded of um my own grandson. He's
[00:32:05] um
[00:32:07] Irish, English,
[00:32:09] whatever, whatever, and Italian
[00:32:11] American. He's is the mix, but he looks
[00:32:14] more like the other side of the family,
[00:32:16] shall we say? He's um and when he had
[00:32:19] his um sixth fifth birth, sixth
[00:32:22] birthday, he had a very close friend
[00:32:24] whose name is Antonio, who's from
[00:32:26] Guatemala. And he has beautiful tan
[00:32:30] skin, beautiful brown eyes, and the
[00:32:32] rest. And um this was such a proud day
[00:32:35] for me because when my grandson blew out
[00:32:38] the candles on his cake, they said, "Did
[00:32:40] you make a wish?" And he said, "Yes, I
[00:32:42] made a wish." He said, "Well, what is
[00:32:44] your wish?" He said, "I wish I had brown
[00:32:45] skin and brown eyes like Antonio."
[00:32:50] So beautiful. So beautiful. The beauty
[00:32:53] is in the mix. The face of the future
[00:32:56] for our country is uh all American. And
[00:32:59] that has many versions. Imagine
[00:33:04] saying that. I mean, she's obviously a
[00:33:07] subgenius. Hasn't thought this through,
[00:33:09] but this is her own grandson. And he
[00:33:12] turns to her and says, "Grandom, I wish
[00:33:13] I wasn't born white. I wish I was born
[00:33:16] with different eye color, different skin
[00:33:19] tone. I wish it was something that I'm
[00:33:21] not. I wish God didn't make me this
[00:33:23] way." Imagine if your own grandson said
[00:33:25] that. It would break your heart.
[00:33:28] It would break your heart. And by the
[00:33:29] way, it's only on this topic. I wish I
[00:33:31] wasn't white. that that's okay. If a
[00:33:33] grandson had said, "Grandom, I wish I
[00:33:35] wasn't gay," she would have smacked him
[00:33:37] in the face with a ruler. "YOU WERE BORN
[00:33:39] GAY. ENJOY IT."
[00:33:42] But when he says, "I wish I wasn't
[00:33:44] white," she says, "You're right. It's
[00:33:47] good to want to be Antonio and not be
[00:33:49] yourself, not be what God made you." Her
[00:33:52] own grandson.
[00:33:55] Has she been black and gotten up and
[00:33:57] said, you know, my grandson said to me,
[00:34:01] my granddaughter had a white Barbie doll
[00:34:02] and said, "Grandom, I I wish I had
[00:34:04] blonde hair and blue eyes." All of us
[00:34:07] would say, "That's awful. God made you
[00:34:09] like this." It's sad to want to be
[00:34:12] something that you're not. You should be
[00:34:14] comfortable with the way you were made.
[00:34:16] Isn't that a kind of foundational modern
[00:34:17] American belief? Except when you're
[00:34:20] white, it's beautiful when you hate
[00:34:23] yourself. That's what she's saying.
[00:34:25] That's what she said on the House floor.
[00:34:28] She became the speaker of the house
[00:34:30] twice.
[00:34:32] So, she speaks not simply for herself,
[00:34:34] but for a lot of people, including a lot
[00:34:38] of whites like her.
[00:34:41] And by the way, that's not compassion.
[00:34:45] That's hatred.
[00:34:47] That's saying to a six-year-old, "No,
[00:34:49] you were born the wrong way. You are
[00:34:53] fundamentally flawed. There's nothing
[00:34:55] you can do about it. You're not as good
[00:34:56] as Antonio.
[00:35:00] Okay?
[00:35:02] There's hatred. That is hatred.
[00:35:06] And it expresses itself.
[00:35:09] By the way, Nancy Pelosi is from
[00:35:10] Baltimore and she grew up there when it
[00:35:12] was 85% white.
[00:35:15] How was it now? She doesn't go back very
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[00:36:29] But in New York City, which went from 90
[00:36:32] to 30 from 1950 to present, probably
[00:36:36] less than 30 if for real,
[00:36:39] the new mayor, everyone's focused on his
[00:36:42] foreign policy views. How does he feel
[00:36:43] about Israel? Who cares?
[00:36:46] How does he feel about white Americans?
[00:36:48] Well, we know cuz he says, "Well, I'm
[00:36:50] going to tax them more cuz they're
[00:36:51] white."
[00:36:53] the new head, his new rental authority
[00:36:56] lady said recently, "White people own
[00:36:59] too much. They should rent like everyone
[00:37:02] else." Really, that's not justice.
[00:37:05] That's not equity. That's hatred. That's
[00:37:07] undisguised hostility toward people for
[00:37:11] how they look.
[00:37:13] But because they're increasingly a
[00:37:15] defeated people, that's not only okay,
[00:37:17] it's encouraged.
[00:37:21] You don't want to be on the wrong side
[00:37:22] of that. Not because you're a white
[00:37:24] supremacist and love only white people.
[00:37:27] That's insane. God made every person,
[00:37:30] every human being was created by God.
[00:37:32] Period.
[00:37:34] It's not a matter of loving only people
[00:37:36] who look like you, loving only whites or
[00:37:38] blacks or whatever.
[00:37:40] It's a matter of not hating people on
[00:37:42] the basis of how they were born. But
[00:37:45] these dynamics don't change much because
[00:37:47] there's something in people that wants
[00:37:50] to crush and humiliate the vanquished
[00:37:54] every single time.
[00:37:57] And you'd like to think that this nation
[00:38:01] is exceptional in the sense that that
[00:38:03] wouldn't happen here, but there's no
[00:38:04] evidence of it at all. As whites became
[00:38:06] become a smaller proportion of the US
[00:38:09] population every year, louder become the
[00:38:12] calls to hate whites. more open becomes
[00:38:15] the hatred, the hostility, the threats
[00:38:17] of violence.
[00:38:19] Crimes against white people like, "Well,
[00:38:20] I don't know. The perpetrator was black.
[00:38:22] You're white.
[00:38:24] Every single American knows
[00:38:27] those crimes are not punished as
[00:38:29] vigorously or as harshly as the reverse.
[00:38:31] Everyone knows that and accepts it." Oh,
[00:38:34] big mistake to accept that.
[00:38:36] If there's no such thing as equality
[00:38:38] under the law, if you can be punished
[00:38:40] more lightly
[00:38:42] or more severely based on your race,
[00:38:45] your ethnicity, your religion, we're all
[00:38:47] in trouble. All of us. First of all,
[00:38:49] we're all degraded
[00:38:50] because that's the definition of
[00:38:52] immoral. Blood guilt is not real despite
[00:38:54] what our leaders tell us. And it's
[00:38:57] totally possible that you and your
[00:38:59] group, your community
[00:39:02] are going to wind up on the wrong side
[00:39:03] of that someday. But for right now, it's
[00:39:06] very obvious that whites are on the
[00:39:08] wrong side of that. And you can tell by
[00:39:10] the behavior of the people at the ICE
[00:39:12] protest. So this was Minneapolis just a
[00:39:13] couple of nights ago. This is a bunch
[00:39:15] of, of course, primarily white cuz
[00:39:17] Minneapolis, one of the last
[00:39:21] big cities in America with a sizable
[00:39:23] white population,
[00:39:25] running into a church and threatening
[00:39:28] the parishioners in the church. And
[00:39:31] you've probably seen footage of this,
[00:39:32] but listen carefully to the clip you're
[00:39:34] about to hear,
[00:39:37] and you can hear effectively racial
[00:39:39] epithets aimed at white people. So,
[00:39:43] two things are going on here. One is the
[00:39:45] protesters of course hate Christianity,
[00:39:48] and they hate whites, white Christians.
[00:39:51] Now, that's familiar. Very familiar.
[00:39:54] There's a lot of hatred toward white
[00:39:56] Christians. Now, where does that come
[00:39:57] from? It's obviously
[00:40:00] spiritual at its root like everything
[00:40:04] hard to understand exactly why that
[00:40:07] group is targeted around the world but
[00:40:10] we know that it is
[00:40:12] certainly that's one of the primary
[00:40:15] motives in going to war against Russia
[00:40:17] destroying Ukraine completely destroyed
[00:40:20] Ukraine was destroyed by the west by the
[00:40:22] way it was destroyed by Washington and
[00:40:24] Brussels who pushed Russia into this
[00:40:27] war. They wanted this war. They said
[00:40:29] they wanted this war. They got the war.
[00:40:32] Very few of their people have been
[00:40:34] killed in the war, but hundreds and
[00:40:36] hundreds of likely over a million
[00:40:38] Ukrainians have been killed in this war.
[00:40:40] You think Ukraine will be majority
[00:40:42] Ukrainian in a 100 years? You think the
[00:40:45] land in Ukraine will be owned by
[00:40:46] Ukrainians in 20 years? No, of course
[00:40:49] not. It won't be Russia that did that.
[00:40:55] It'll be the West. And you have to
[00:40:56] wonder why. Well, the fact that Ukraine
[00:40:58] was white and Christian, one of the last
[00:41:01] big concentrations of white Christians
[00:41:03] on the planet, maybe that had something
[00:41:04] to do with it. Of course, it did.
[00:41:07] Obviously,
[00:41:09] that's not a far-right conspiracy
[00:41:11] theory. It's the truth.
[00:41:14] So the same attitudes that did that that
[00:41:17] are at work in Canada, Australia, New
[00:41:19] Zealand, and very much here in the
[00:41:21] United States were sort of distilled in
[00:41:23] the clip you're about to see from a
[00:41:25] church a couple of days ago in
[00:41:26] Minneapolis. Watch this.
[00:41:31] >> RENEE, GOOD. RENEE, GOOD. WHERE ARE YOU?
[00:41:35] WHERE ARE YOU? WHERE ARE YOUR PEOPLE?
[00:41:38] >> WHY ARE YOU NOT AT WHIPPLE EVERY DAY
[00:41:39] FIGHTING FOR THE HUMANITY, STANDING FOR
[00:41:41] OUR PEOPLE? WHERE ARE YOU? YOU DRINK
[00:41:43] YOUR COFFEE. You got your jewelry. You
[00:41:45] have your nice clothes. But what do you
[00:41:47] do? What What do you do to stand for
[00:41:48] your Somali and Latino community? I'm
[00:41:50] not gonna comment. You have no comment.
[00:41:51] Exactly. [cheering]
[00:41:58] SAY YOUR NAME.
[00:41:58] >> RENEE. GOOD. [cheering]
[00:42:00] >> RENEE. GOOD. [music]
[00:42:06] All these comfortable white people who
[00:42:08] are living lavish, COMFORTABLE LIVES
[00:42:10] WHILE CHILDREN ARE DRAGGED INTO
[00:42:12] CONCENTRATION CAMPS. You're living real
[00:42:13] life, nice lives with your lattes, doing
[00:42:15] absolutely nothing for your Latino and
[00:42:17] Somali brothers and sisters. You You
[00:42:19] come here TO A MAN WEARING A SUIT IS A
[00:42:21] PREACHER. Did Jesus wear a suit? Did
[00:42:23] Jesus profit OFF THE WORDS? NO. JESUS
[00:42:26] WOULD DIE WITHIN. You do not touch me.
[00:42:28] Touch me again and see what happens.
[00:42:30] >> Hey, you can't.
[00:42:31] >> You are A FAKE CHRISTIAN. WHY ARE YOU
[00:42:33] NOT STANDING WITH YOUR SOMALI AND LATINO
[00:42:35] COMMUNITIES? WHY DO I NOT SEE YOU OUT AT
[00:42:37] WHIPPLE EVERY DAY PROTESTING THIS ATTACK
[00:42:39] ON HUMANITY? WHERE are you? You're
[00:42:41] sinners. You're pretending to be
[00:42:43] Christians. But we know you live an easy
[00:42:44] life, DON'T YOU? A VERY EASY LIFE WHILE
[00:42:46] PEOPLE ARE STARVING. SHAME, [snorts]
[00:42:49] >> MAN.
[00:42:51] Is that man capable of violence? Well,
[00:42:53] he's committing it, of course.
[00:42:56] Disrupting a church service. people who
[00:42:58] mean no one harm, who are committing no
[00:43:00] crime, who've done nothing wrong,
[00:43:02] screaming at him for being white
[00:43:03] Christians.
[00:43:06] That's it right there. That's it right
[00:43:09] there.
[00:43:11] And you should know that that's not the
[00:43:14] last clip like that you're going to see,
[00:43:15] not just tonight, but in the future,
[00:43:18] because that's the animating spirit
[00:43:20] behind what you're watching. No one is
[00:43:23] making an economic case for mass
[00:43:25] migration. Nobody is making an economic
[00:43:28] case for keeping tens of millions of
[00:43:30] illegals in this country cuz there isn't
[00:43:32] an economic case for it. There is no
[00:43:33] case that begins with let me tell you
[00:43:36] how this will make our country better.
[00:43:39] No one even makes that case. The case
[00:43:42] they're making is we are replacing the
[00:43:46] people who founded this country, who
[00:43:49] built the system for themselves, by the
[00:43:52] way, with a brand new people who have
[00:43:56] very little in common with those people.
[00:43:58] And why are we doing that? Because we
[00:43:59] hate those people.
[00:44:02] And it's not just deranged protesters
[00:44:04] who are making that case. So are former
[00:44:07] CNN anchors. Here's Don Lemon, who was
[00:44:10] part of that protest. He was covering it
[00:44:12] in the way that journalists often cover
[00:44:14] events. They help organize [laughter]
[00:44:16] those events. They're their foot
[00:44:18] soldiers. We're just covering it. Okay,
[00:44:22] here's Don Lemon going on some podcast
[00:44:24] with angry middle-aged rich ladies to
[00:44:27] talk about how virtuous it is to scream
[00:44:30] at whites in Minneapolis. Watch this.
[00:44:33] >> Is a certain degree of racism there and
[00:44:35] there's a certain degree of entitlement.
[00:44:36] I think people who are, you know, in the
[00:44:39] religious groups like that, it's not the
[00:44:40] type of Christianity that I practice,
[00:44:42] but I think that they're entitled and
[00:44:44] that that entitlement comes from a
[00:44:46] supremacy, a white supremacy. And they
[00:44:49] think that this country was built for
[00:44:50] them, that it is a Christian country,
[00:44:51] when actually we left England because we
[00:44:53] wanted religious freedom. It's religious
[00:44:55] freedom, but only if you're a Christian
[00:44:56] and only if you're a white male.
[00:44:59] >> Huh. I mean, it's it's hard to you don't
[00:45:02] ever want to take Don Lemon literally
[00:45:05] because he's disconnected from reality.
[00:45:08] And you can say, "Well, actually, he's
[00:45:09] got a white boyfriend and he lives in
[00:45:11] the Hamptons. Who's entitled here?" But
[00:45:15] it's fruitless and it diminishes you to
[00:45:18] rebut a Don Lemon rant to some facelift
[00:45:21] lady on the specifics because the
[00:45:24] specifics don't matter because it just
[00:45:27] doesn't make any sense. It doesn't need
[00:45:28] to make sense. All you need to
[00:45:30] understand is the spirit behind it,
[00:45:32] which is hate. Hate and resentment and
[00:45:36] the desire for revenge. That's what this
[00:45:38] is.
[00:45:40] And there's no other explanation that
[00:45:42] anyone's even offered up other than you
[00:45:45] some have an obligation to hurt
[00:45:46] yourself.
[00:45:48] And so really, it's time to just be
[00:45:50] completely honest. This is an act of
[00:45:52] hatred and aggression
[00:45:55] toward the population of the United
[00:45:57] States. American citizens, people who
[00:45:59] were born here, people whose
[00:46:00] grandparents were born here. They are
[00:46:02] hated by the people in charge and have
[00:46:05] been for a long time. And the plan,
[00:46:09] which is pretty close to completion
[00:46:11] actually, it's not a distant goal. It's
[00:46:14] like almost here, is to replace them,
[00:46:16] render them powerless. And if people
[00:46:19] like Don Lemon have any say over it,
[00:46:22] hurt them. Just listen to what they say.
[00:46:24] You don't have to conspiracy theorize,
[00:46:27] just open your eyes and listen and you
[00:46:30] can tell what they have planned for you
[00:46:32] cuz it's happened in a lot of places. It
[00:46:34] always happens. And so these are fights
[00:46:37] worth having actually because it's not
[00:46:40] about
[00:46:42] preserving racial purity.
[00:46:45] It's about preserving your country in
[00:46:47] recognizable form, preserving your life
[00:46:50] and the lives of your children. If all
[00:46:53] of a sudden there were you lived in a
[00:46:55] country where 60% of the people agreed
[00:46:57] with Don Lemon, how do you think you'd
[00:46:59] do?
[00:47:01] Not well at all. [laughter] And not only
[00:47:04] would you be stripped of your
[00:47:06] possessions, not only would your
[00:47:07] children be ground into the dust, you'd
[00:47:09] be lectured as it happened, lectured
[00:47:11] about how you deserved it. This is what
[00:47:13] you get for the sins of your ancestors.
[00:47:15] the blood guilt people would start
[00:47:16] lecturing you about it. You'd be treated
[00:47:19] like the Palestinians in Gaza. It's the
[00:47:21] same idea. It's the same idea. You're
[00:47:25] responsible for the sins of your
[00:47:27] ancestors because blood guilt is real.
[00:47:29] There couldn't be a more anti-Christian
[00:47:31] worldview than that. It's one of the
[00:47:32] reasons they hate Christians because
[00:47:33] they stand in the way.
[00:47:35] So because profound questions underly
[00:47:40] this argument over ICE, the stakes for
[00:47:43] us have suddenly become existential. And
[00:47:48] the behavior of the people involved in
[00:47:50] this has become extraordinary.
[00:47:53] And all of this adds up to a pretty
[00:47:55] remarkable, pretty shocking scene
[00:47:57] tonight in Minneapolis. ignored by most
[00:48:01] people in the media, but not by Nick
[00:48:03] Sorder, who's a freelance journalist
[00:48:05] who's been just taking videos of what he
[00:48:07] sees. This is a video that he just shot
[00:48:10] of a group of friends of Don Lemons
[00:48:14] breaking into a law enforcement vehicle
[00:48:16] and stealing the weapons out of the back
[00:48:18] of it. It's about 2 minutes long. Watch
[00:48:19] this whole thing for a more precise
[00:48:22] sense of where we are right now.
[00:48:28] Almost there.
[00:48:30] >> Oh wow.
[00:48:37] >> Oh my god. [music] Oh my
[00:48:42] god.
[00:48:51] >> Hit the bullets.
[00:48:54] So, you hate to go right to the obvious
[00:48:56] and say storming of the of the Bastile,
[00:48:59] but whenever you've got a [snorts] crowd
[00:49:02] of violencebent extremists,
[00:49:07] stealing government weapons, and running
[00:49:10] off into the night without being
[00:49:11] arrested, you have the potential for
[00:49:14] revolution and then great bloodshed in
[00:49:17] the aftermath of that. So, it it's
[00:49:20] almost obvious it doesn't bear saying
[00:49:22] out loud, but we will anyway because we
[00:49:24] love the obvious. You have to stop this
[00:49:26] now or else things will fall apart. Nick
[00:49:30] Sorder is the man who shot that video.
[00:49:32] Uh, and he joins us now. Um, [snorts]
[00:49:34] Nick, can you first of all, thank you
[00:49:36] for doing that. This is a true public
[00:49:37] service, I think, to bring this to the
[00:49:39] public. Um, what what did we just see?
[00:49:43] Can you give some context?
[00:49:46] >> Yeah. Yeah. So, Tucker, what I'll tell
[00:49:47] you is this happened not far from
[00:49:49] downtown Minneapolis. So, there are
[00:49:51] police everywhere all the time, right? I
[00:49:54] mean, it's it's pretty it's a pretty
[00:49:55] concentrated area with uh with police.
[00:49:58] And these riers had 2 hours two hours to
[00:50:02] go through multiple FBI vehicles.
[00:50:05] There's another vehicle that was parked
[00:50:07] right behind this one where they were
[00:50:09] able they had enough time and they
[00:50:10] weren't worried about Minneapolis police
[00:50:12] showing up. So, they took a tow strap
[00:50:14] out of the back of a pickup truck,
[00:50:16] mounted it to and tied it around uh the
[00:50:19] the weapons locker in the other vehicle,
[00:50:22] mounted it to the pickup truck, and
[00:50:24] yanked it out that way. Uh, and they're
[00:50:27] not worried at all about any
[00:50:28] repercussions from Minneapolis PD. As
[00:50:31] soon as it happened, I went over to uh
[00:50:35] Minneapolis PD, who I figured out were
[00:50:36] about a block away from there, and I
[00:50:38] gave them the information. I gave them
[00:50:40] the description of the individual. I
[00:50:42] gave them the the video. I let them take
[00:50:44] a picture of the person's face. I gave
[00:50:46] them the license plate number as well as
[00:50:48] the car that he was in. This guy that
[00:50:51] just stole not just a rifle, but a
[00:50:53] select fire rifle, an automatic rifle
[00:50:56] from an FBI vehicle. They chose not to
[00:50:59] go after the vehicle that they could see
[00:51:01] down the street. He hadn't even left
[00:51:03] yet. But these cowards that are at the
[00:51:06] higher ranks of MPD, they're under
[00:51:08] people like Jacob Fry, who is basically
[00:51:11] Mayor Soy Boy. That's what I prefer to
[00:51:13] call him. Uh at this point, are uh
[00:51:16] they've been cucked. I don't know how
[00:51:18] else to say it, Tucker. They if you if
[00:51:21] you knew in a city in let's say uh rural
[00:51:25] Georgia that somebody just stole an
[00:51:27] automatic rifle and you see them in your
[00:51:29] sights, those sheriff's departments are
[00:51:31] going to go after them immediately.
[00:51:32] They're not going to let them get away.
[00:51:34] Not in Minneapolis. That's not what
[00:51:36] happens. They let them go out into the
[00:51:38] wild. And uh, of course, there were no
[00:51:40] legacy media networks there. Not like,
[00:51:43] you know, ABC, NBC, or anything. As soon
[00:51:45] as it gets a little dicey, they run
[00:51:47] away. So, it's up to people like me in a
[00:51:50] disguise that have to go in there and
[00:51:52] film this. There are no cops around. And
[00:51:53] Tucker, even if you did call 911, which
[00:51:56] I did multiple times, you get zero
[00:51:59] assistance. It doesn't matter the amount
[00:52:00] of death threats that are being screamed
[00:52:02] at you in the background on the call. Uh
[00:52:04] when I I got robbed the other day by a a
[00:52:07] gang of Somali. They stole over $1,000
[00:52:09] worth of camera equipment from me. I
[00:52:11] called 911. They didn't ask me, "Are you
[00:52:14] in any danger right now? I was bleeding
[00:52:16] from the arm after being dragged down
[00:52:18] the street by the vehicle." That no, the
[00:52:20] question they asked me was, "Are you
[00:52:21] white, Hispanic, black, or Somali?" That
[00:52:25] was one of their biggest concerns. and
[00:52:27] it still took them 30 minutes to come to
[00:52:28] the scene, but that's like my fourth 911
[00:52:31] call in the past three weeks out in
[00:52:33] Minneapolis. And uh it's the first time
[00:52:35] they actually responded. So the fact
[00:52:37] they responded in 30 minutes, I was
[00:52:39] actually surprised that they came out.
[00:52:41] >> I I'm just I'm shocked by everything
[00:52:43] you've just said. I I do think we run
[00:52:46] the risk of misinterpreting people like
[00:52:49] Jacob Fry.
[00:52:51] Obviously, they're feminized. Everything
[00:52:53] you said is true. They're they're
[00:52:54] craven. They're they're weak. But
[00:52:56] there's also a will to power there. I
[00:52:58] mean this is a this is Trosky, okay?
[00:53:00] This is the the looting of the armory.
[00:53:02] This is the way that people like Fry and
[00:53:05] there are many people like Fry gain
[00:53:07] power which is through violence. It's
[00:53:08] through the mob. It's through mob action
[00:53:10] that they become more powerful. So it's
[00:53:12] not just that he he he can't stop it cuz
[00:53:14] he's too weak. He wants it. Just as the
[00:53:18] governor of the state of Minnesota and
[00:53:20] his creepy Winnie Mandela wife, you
[00:53:22] know, breathe deep the smell of burning
[00:53:24] tires during the George Floyd riots
[00:53:26] because revolution means power to them.
[00:53:30] And so it feels to me just from the
[00:53:31] footage that you shot that things are
[00:53:33] getting completely out of control.
[00:53:37] They're totally out of control and they
[00:53:39] have been for several weeks now. But
[00:53:41] this is exactly how Tim Waltz wants it
[00:53:43] right now. I'm being totally upfront
[00:53:45] with you, Tucker. I truly believe this.
[00:53:48] >> This is the best case scenario for Tim
[00:53:51] Waltz because what were we talking
[00:53:53] about? The reason that I was out there
[00:53:54] already when this shooting happened
[00:53:56] after the woman tried to run down an ICE
[00:53:59] agent with her vehicle,
[00:54:00] >> uh, I was already out there because we
[00:54:02] were talking about the Somali fraud. So,
[00:54:04] the riots, the unrest in the streets,
[00:54:07] the assaults on ICE agents, the just
[00:54:09] non-stop aroundthe-clock mayhem is the
[00:54:13] only thing that has distracted everybody
[00:54:17] from continuing to be able to talk about
[00:54:19] the uh the billions of dollars worth of
[00:54:21] fraud that have been enabled under Tim
[00:54:23] Waltz. And we have to get back to that.
[00:54:27] We can't let that go away. But in the
[00:54:29] meantime, we also can't allow uh ICE
[00:54:31] agents who are taking rapists and and
[00:54:33] child molesters and all of these violent
[00:54:36] illegals off the street. We can't just
[00:54:38] leave them hanging as well. And so I I'm
[00:54:41] pretty much going to move to Minneapolis
[00:54:43] at this point. And that is not a place I
[00:54:44] want to be.
[00:54:46] >> It was such a nice city. Uh it was
[00:54:48] famously a Swedish city, so I knew about
[00:54:50] it. And um it was it was a really really
[00:54:52] nice place not that long ago. It's
[00:54:53] completely it's unrecognizable now. And
[00:54:56] immigration is one of the main reasons
[00:54:58] for that. It just it's just true. Can I
[00:55:00] ask where were the FBI agents as their
[00:55:02] automatic weapons were being stolen?
[00:55:06] >> Uh so uh that is a fantastic question
[00:55:10] which I uh I haven't really you know
[00:55:13] with the like I I'm a big supporter of
[00:55:15] the FBI. I think they do great things. I
[00:55:17] I don't like the the fact that uh we're
[00:55:20] just abandoning federal vehicles in the
[00:55:23] road. Uh, however, especially when
[00:55:25] there's a riot going on, uh, however,
[00:55:28] like these guys need some reinforcements
[00:55:31] out here, right? There are way way too
[00:55:33] many riers that that just vastly
[00:55:36] outnumber
[00:55:38] uh, federal agents. So, that that's why
[00:55:41] I keep calling for troops here,
[00:55:44] military, police, uh, federalizing the
[00:55:46] National Guard, even insurrection act,
[00:55:48] whatever you have to do to protect these
[00:55:50] guys. There aren't enough federal
[00:55:52] agency. They got pushed back. They got
[00:55:54] forced all the way back and that's why
[00:55:56] their vehicles ended up being outside of
[00:55:57] the perimeter at that point because the
[00:55:59] vehicles were parked several blocks away
[00:56:01] from where the shooting happened, I
[00:56:03] believe last week when that uh illegal
[00:56:06] Venezuelan came out an agent with a
[00:56:07] shovel, right? And tried to hit him with
[00:56:09] the shovel and they had to shoot him in
[00:56:10] the leg. Uh and so once that perimeter
[00:56:12] shrunk because they don't have enough
[00:56:14] manpower, that left those vehicles
[00:56:16] exposed. Uh, and you know, the the FBI,
[00:56:20] like I I'll give them a lot of credit
[00:56:21] for this because they know that
[00:56:23] Minneapolis PD is not going to uh do
[00:56:27] anything. They're not going to predict
[00:56:28] independent journalists like me when I
[00:56:30] was robbed by that Somali gang in the
[00:56:31] road. Uh, this is breaking here just
[00:56:33] now. Like they just Cash Patel just
[00:56:35] called me like right before I I did the
[00:56:37] hit on the show. Uh, so they found uh my
[00:56:40] camera. They have recovered the camera
[00:56:42] that was stolen. And that's only because
[00:56:44] they jumped in knowing that Minneapolis
[00:56:46] PD was going to do nothing about it.
[00:56:48] Because in reality, Minneapolis PD, they
[00:56:51] don't want people like me here. Because
[00:56:53] I'm documenting all of their failures.
[00:56:55] I'm documenting the fact that they are
[00:56:56] letting these third world invaders run
[00:56:59] free through the streets, committing,
[00:57:01] you know, billions of dollars worth of
[00:57:03] fraud in broad daylight and nothing is
[00:57:06] being done about it. They hate people
[00:57:08] like me being here. Uh, and so I
[00:57:10] appreciate the FBI and and Cash Patel
[00:57:12] stepping in and and and recovering that
[00:57:14] camera uh because it it definitely
[00:57:16] wouldn't have been done uh by the city.
[00:57:18] They told me very specifically, Tucker,
[00:57:21] when the police finally responded after
[00:57:23] 30 minutes and I'm still sitting there
[00:57:24] bleeding from being dragged by a
[00:57:26] vehicle. They told me that I was in the
[00:57:29] wrong by being in that area and told me
[00:57:32] I had to leave that area because I had
[00:57:33] no business in that area. I HAVE A HELL
[00:57:35] OF A LOT MORE BUSINESS in that area than
[00:57:38] anybody else that's there at this point.
[00:57:39] Okay, this is the United States of
[00:57:41] America and I am not going to be
[00:57:43] terrorized out of leaving an American
[00:57:46] city because they want to surrender it
[00:57:48] to a bunch of third world pirates. I'm
[00:57:50] just not going to do it.
[00:57:51] >> Well, you have as much connection to
[00:57:52] Minneapolis really as Jacob Fry does.
[00:57:54] You know, he's not he's from New York.
[00:57:56] He's not he's not or I think he's
[00:57:57] actually from suburban DC. He's not from
[00:57:59] there at all. He has no roots there at
[00:58:01] all. He just showed up to ferment
[00:58:02] revolution and to increase his own
[00:58:06] power. Obviously, they haven't improved
[00:58:08] the city in the slightest. It's gotten
[00:58:10] much worse under his so-called
[00:58:12] leadership. So, who do you call? I mean,
[00:58:16] if the if FBI's vehicles get looted,
[00:58:18] there are no FBI agents
[00:58:21] there to protect their own vehicles. By
[00:58:23] the way, don't they have an obligation
[00:58:24] to make sure their automatic weapons
[00:58:25] don't wind up in the hands of criminals?
[00:58:27] Like, aren't they aren't they supposed
[00:58:29] to protect their own ve? They're the
[00:58:30] FBI. I No offense. I think you're
[00:58:32] letting them off a little lightly here.
[00:58:34] Like, so here you have the FBI putting
[00:58:36] automatic weapons into our communities.
[00:58:37] Are we for that? I'm not. But how do you
[00:58:41] how do you respond to that? Like, if you
[00:58:42] called FBI, hey, they just stole your
[00:58:44] machine guns. You guys should get on
[00:58:45] this. Wake up, son.
[00:58:48] >> Yeah. So, I I I immediately went to the
[00:58:50] FBI and informed them as to what
[00:58:52] happened because like I'm not even sure
[00:58:53] they would have known about it
[00:58:55] immediately. I mean, there were no like
[00:58:57] I'm the only one that got footage of the
[00:58:59] guy that stole it. And I mean, he was a
[00:59:01] little bit I guess I'm going
[00:59:02] to say, because he like took his mask
[00:59:04] down, and you could say he had Latin
[00:59:06] Kings tattoos all over him. So, I mean,
[00:59:07] it was pretty easy to find the guy, and
[00:59:10] they found him by the next morning. But,
[00:59:12] yeah, I I I would say like the fact that
[00:59:14] that we're that federal law enforcement
[00:59:16] feels like they're in a position where
[00:59:17] they just can't go back in and uh guard
[00:59:22] these weapons that were in the the back
[00:59:24] of the vehicle. Yeah, that was
[00:59:25] definitely concerning to me. I cannot
[00:59:27] excuse that in any way, shape, or form.
[00:59:29] Uh I know one the the weapons talker
[00:59:31] that was pulled out with a a tow strap
[00:59:33] after two hours. And that's another
[00:59:34] thing, Tucker. It was two hours that
[00:59:36] this was going on and nobody was doing
[00:59:37] anything about it. Uh uh the the one one
[00:59:41] weapons locker was empty uh to the
[00:59:44] dismay of the riers that had spent so
[00:59:46] long trying to get into it. Uh but you
[00:59:49] know, I I I I I really want to stress
[00:59:51] the fact that these guys need more
[00:59:53] support. They they need uh they need
[00:59:56] more assets on the ground to protect
[00:59:57] them while they're running operations,
[00:59:59] right? I mean, these FBI agents that are
[01:00:02] uh out there like that FBI agents, DHS
[01:00:05] agents, they're not trained in crowd
[01:00:07] control, right? That's not their not
[01:00:09] their job. But there are federal
[01:00:11] resources to handle that. And we're not
[01:00:14] using them. We're putting them on
[01:00:15] standby. And I'm sorry like I I I I'm a
[01:00:17] big supporter of the Trump
[01:00:18] administration. I think they're doing a
[01:00:19] fantastic job, but I'm a little worried
[01:00:22] that we're sleeping on what's actually
[01:00:24] going on in Minneapolis because some
[01:00:26] polls came out saying that, oh well,
[01:00:29] some people don't approve of what's
[01:00:31] going on with ICE operations. And so,
[01:00:33] like, the administration is a little bit
[01:00:35] fearful, I think I'll say, of deploying
[01:00:39] uh troops into the streets to restore
[01:00:42] order because they don't like the poll
[01:00:44] numbers that are coming out. And you
[01:00:45] know what? 80 million people voted for
[01:00:48] this to happen, right? I personally
[01:00:50] think maybe those poll numbers, if
[01:00:52] they're even real, some of the reason
[01:00:54] that people say they're not approving of
[01:00:56] the the job that ICE is doing is because
[01:00:58] they're not deporting enough people.
[01:01:00] >> Well, of course.
[01:01:01] >> Right. You you you go and talk to people
[01:01:03] in middle America. I'm from Kentucky
[01:01:05] originally, Tucker. Right. So, I I I
[01:01:07] gauge my dad who's an HVAC technician
[01:01:08] down there and all his friends. like I
[01:01:10] try to get their opinion on just people
[01:01:11] that are just normal uh everyday
[01:01:14] bluecollar people and they're all saying
[01:01:16] the same thing like they're not seeing
[01:01:18] any arrests. Uh they're not seeing uh
[01:01:20] the deportations that they were asking
[01:01:23] for. So if the poll numbers are dropping
[01:01:25] that has a lot to do with it not because
[01:01:27] people think that I being too
[01:01:28] aggressive. So I think those numbers are
[01:01:30] being misinterpreted.
[01:01:32] I mean, I've spent I'm not attacking
[01:01:34] anyone, but the last three weeks hearing
[01:01:35] how we have the greatest military in
[01:01:36] America, which I mean, in the world,
[01:01:39] which, you know, sounds right, we're all
[01:01:41] grateful,
[01:01:43] but like if the Madura raid had been
[01:01:46] this pathetic, it would be a national
[01:01:48] shame.
[01:01:50] Where are these people who are so
[01:01:52] skilled at taking out foreign leaders
[01:01:55] in our country? Like, one of our great
[01:01:59] cities is collapsing. They're stealing
[01:02:02] automatic weapons from federal agents
[01:02:03] and no one's doing anything about it.
[01:02:05] Like, where are the people? We pay $1.5
[01:02:09] billion dollars a year to maintain this
[01:02:12] empire. Where are they when we need them
[01:02:14] here?
[01:02:17] >> Trillion.
[01:02:17] >> Yeah, I think you meant 1.5 trillion,
[01:02:19] Tucker.
[01:02:19] >> Trillion. Sorry, I'm [laughter]
[01:02:21] >> Which is a lot.
[01:02:22] >> I can barely even pronounce the words,
[01:02:24] Nick.
[01:02:25] >> [laughter]
[01:02:26] >> It's it's a it's it's so much money and
[01:02:28] you're like, "Okay, well," and I I I
[01:02:31] tweeted about this the other day where I
[01:02:33] said, you know, because people are like,
[01:02:34] "Oh, well, why aren't you covering
[01:02:35] what's happening IN IRAN?" BECAUSE I
[01:02:36] DON'T CARE. I DON'T CARE. We have a huge
[01:02:39] American city that's under siege
[01:02:41] actively. I'm boots on the ground being
[01:02:44] attacked every single day uh by these
[01:02:46] people in the streets and so are ICE
[01:02:48] agents. Like you saw uh today even
[01:02:50] Bovino the border patrol commander is
[01:02:53] out there uh just trying to go get
[01:02:55] snacks at the speedway and they they
[01:02:57] can't get out of the parking lot with
[01:02:58] his team because there are 20 or 30
[01:03:00] vehicles literally 20 or 30 following
[01:03:03] him around boxing them in and and coming
[01:03:06] up and assaulting them and so they have
[01:03:07] to use tear gas to get out of parking
[01:03:09] lots. Like we need the manpower. I mean
[01:03:12] how many tens of thousands of active
[01:03:14] duty troops do we have? Why do we need
[01:03:16] to worry about Iran right now? Why do we
[01:03:18] have to worry about any other country in
[01:03:20] the world besides right here? I don't
[01:03:23] care about the politics anymore. I don't
[01:03:25] care if, you know, the the the the left
[01:03:27] and the Democrat party are going to be
[01:03:28] like, "Oh my goodness, this is fascism
[01:03:30] by enforcing federal law is fascism." I
[01:03:34] I don't care about that. I'm watching it
[01:03:35] in real time. I'm watching these guys
[01:03:38] that go out there every single day and
[01:03:40] put their lives on the line to deport
[01:03:43] these uh child rapists and and and
[01:03:45] literal murderers, people with uh murder
[01:03:48] warrants out of foreign countries that
[01:03:50] were just letting out into the streets
[01:03:52] out here. They need the support. They're
[01:03:54] on a a mission here and we're not giving
[01:03:57] it to them. I know we put 1500 active
[01:04:00] duty troops uh from Alaska on standby
[01:04:04] and I believe another thousand of
[01:04:05] military police in North Carolina on
[01:04:08] standby as well for the Pentagon. They
[01:04:11] haven't been deployed yet. So my
[01:04:13] question is what are we waiting for?
[01:04:15] What has to happen before we can deploy
[01:04:18] them? Does an ICE agent need to be
[01:04:19] killed? Does a journalist need to be
[01:04:21] killed? What needs to happen? What what
[01:04:23] are we waiting on? It's a war zone out
[01:04:25] there every single day.
[01:04:28] La last question would I mean ICE is
[01:04:31] there, FBI is there, military is not
[01:04:34] there. They're worried about Iran
[01:04:36] apparently. Um so important Iran so
[01:04:38] important. Um what about local police? I
[01:04:41] mean Minneapolis is a major city.
[01:04:44] Minneapolis St. Paul
[01:04:47] why aren't they restoring order? Like
[01:04:49] have you seen local police respond to
[01:04:51] the riers?
[01:04:54] >> No. A and so that's one of the biggest
[01:04:56] issues that we see up here. First of
[01:04:57] all, the reason that I'm doing this in
[01:04:58] front of a plain gray background is
[01:05:00] because for hits that are longer than 5
[01:05:02] minutes that are live, I have to do them
[01:05:04] somewhere where nobody can find me
[01:05:06] because they will track me down and if I
[01:05:08] call the police, nothing will be done
[01:05:10] about it. I've written them off, they're
[01:05:11] totally useless and and and that's it.
[01:05:13] They're done. uh when when it comes to
[01:05:17] uh what I was covering just for example
[01:05:18] in Louisiana, you have Governor Jeff
[01:05:20] Landry down there that is you know
[01:05:22] supporting the ICE operations that are
[01:05:24] happening down there in New Orleans uh
[01:05:26] Shreveport all the surrounding area like
[01:05:29] across the entire state of Louisiana.
[01:05:31] And so they have state troopers with
[01:05:33] them. And those state troopers, I was
[01:05:36] not able to tail Bino uh when I was
[01:05:40] trying to cover the uh the deportations
[01:05:42] down there because they would pull me
[01:05:45] over for, you know, turning right on red
[01:05:48] without stopping or something behind the
[01:05:50] the police vehicles, right? But in
[01:05:52] Minneapolis, St. Paul and the
[01:05:55] surrounding area, the police have been
[01:05:58] uh they have been directed and ordered
[01:06:01] not to enforce any traffic laws or uh or
[01:06:05] or crimes that are committed in the
[01:06:08] presence of ICE or Border Patrol because
[01:06:10] they want these people running red
[01:06:13] lights at 80 miles an hour. It's so
[01:06:15] brazen now that they're live streaming
[01:06:18] these crimes that they're committing
[01:06:19] where they're f they don't have lights
[01:06:21] and sirens or anything. these these uh
[01:06:23] activists that are posing as
[01:06:24] journalists. They wear press on their
[01:06:25] chest because you know that that all all
[01:06:27] of a sudden exempts them from laws
[01:06:30] apparently. They're not real press.
[01:06:32] They're activists and and they're like
[01:06:34] passing buses, school buses around blind
[01:06:37] corners at 80 mph in residential
[01:06:39] neighborhoods blowing through red lights
[01:06:41] and stuff, but police are being told not
[01:06:44] to pull them over, not to interfere with
[01:06:47] the activists at all. some I'm surprised
[01:06:49] nobody's been killed by it yet, but if
[01:06:52] if they were just to do that, if they
[01:06:53] were just to enforce traffic laws, then
[01:06:55] you wouldn't get 20 to 30 cars uh
[01:06:58] following and impeding ICE and Border
[01:07:00] Patrol all the time. But the problem is
[01:07:03] that's what they want. They want them to
[01:07:05] be impeded.
[01:07:06] >> Is there I mean, is the city are people
[01:07:09] acknowledging this is happening? I mean,
[01:07:11] is the mayor giving press conferences
[01:07:13] about it? What they're going to do to
[01:07:14] fix it? Is the governor on television in
[01:07:17] Minnesota? like what is this just is
[01:07:20] anyone noticing this?
[01:07:23] >> Yeah. So, uh they're they're definitely
[01:07:24] on TV uh Mayor Mayor Frey and uh and Tim
[01:07:29] Waltz, but they're saying exactly what
[01:07:31] you would expect them to. They're
[01:07:32] talking about if you see ICE, call 911.
[01:07:36] You had Chief O'Hara, the Minneapolis
[01:07:39] police chief, which I actually I was I
[01:07:42] tried to ask him a few questions
[01:07:43] downtown the other day when he ordered
[01:07:45] all of his men to retreat uh after uh
[01:07:48] some riots downtown. They like literally
[01:07:50] came in, ran away. I It's all on video,
[01:07:53] and they they were fleeing. One guy, one
[01:07:55] cop tripped over his squad car because
[01:07:56] he was so frazzled by people throwing
[01:07:59] snowballs at him. Uh and and this guy uh
[01:08:02] you could even see him, this leftist
[01:08:04] police chief on TV behind the mayor who
[01:08:08] had just said, "Yes, if you see ICE in
[01:08:11] the area, you call 911." So the 911
[01:08:14] system is like totally useless at this
[01:08:16] point. If you're being stabbed to death
[01:08:18] in the street, mugged, whatever, in
[01:08:21] downtown Minneapolis, you're probably
[01:08:23] not going to get an officer responding
[01:08:25] to you anytime soon because the 911
[01:08:27] lines are flooded with people calling
[01:08:31] 911 on ICE because that's what they've
[01:08:33] been told to do. And so this inquiry by
[01:08:35] the DOJ into uh Mayor Frey and uh Tim
[01:08:39] Waltz is totally fair where they are
[01:08:42] conspiring to obstruct ICE operations.
[01:08:45] And you know how many innocent people
[01:08:47] have suffered because of that at this
[01:08:50] point over the past 3 weeks that this
[01:08:51] has been going on. But Tucker, you go
[01:08:53] outside of the Minneapolis St. Paul
[01:08:56] area, the local jurisdictions there are
[01:08:59] more than willing to work with ICE.
[01:09:01] That's why you're not seeing uh
[01:09:04] largecale like clashes in the streets
[01:09:07] and stuff because they're able to just
[01:09:08] go to the jails when these illegals are
[01:09:11] arrested by local sheriff's departments
[01:09:13] and stuff and they're able to pick them
[01:09:15] up and that's it. And then they're
[01:09:17] deported there. There's no need for
[01:09:19] these large-scale clashes. And uh and
[01:09:22] the the reason that it has to be done is
[01:09:24] because the federal government cannot
[01:09:25] back down and just not enforce uh
[01:09:28] federal immigration law because Mayor
[01:09:31] Frey and Tim Waltz don't want to lose a
[01:09:33] huge portion of their voter base when a
[01:09:36] bunch of Somali fraudsters end up being
[01:09:38] denaturalized and and deported.
[01:09:40] >> Yeah. I mean, the country will will fall
[01:09:41] apart. We'll have civil war if this
[01:09:43] continues. By the way, it's January
[01:09:45] 21st. Imagine June 20. Imagine warm
[01:09:48] weather in one of the coldest cities in
[01:09:50] America.
[01:09:51] >> Nick, thank you so much for your bravery
[01:09:53] and for telling us all that. And that
[01:09:55] was
[01:09:56] >> I'm hard to shock. That shocked me.
[01:09:58] Thank and Godspeed.
[01:10:00] >> I don't have to make anything up,
[01:10:01] Tucker. It's all on video. So, not not
[01:10:04] uh not not exaggerating here, but I
[01:10:05] appreciate you highlighting the story.
[01:10:07] >> Oh, we're grateful, too. Thank you.
[01:10:10] So, we played you that footage of the
[01:10:13] protesters attacking people in church
[01:10:15] for being white and Christian.
[01:10:17] um that was in St. Paul, I think, City's
[01:10:20] Church in St. Paul, Minnesota. Joe
[01:10:22] Riggnney is I I one of the founders of
[01:10:25] that church, I believe, and I hope he'll
[01:10:26] pardon me if I've mangled any of his
[01:10:28] bio, but he joins us uh now. Joe, thanks
[01:10:31] so much for doing this. Um tell us about
[01:10:35] what happened at that church.
[01:10:38] >> Yeah, so that's my former church. I was
[01:10:40] a planting pastor at the church. I'm no
[01:10:42] longer there. I live in Idaho now uh for
[01:10:44] the last three years, but I was in
[01:10:45] Minnesota for 18 years, including
[01:10:47] through u 2020 and all of the um the
[01:10:51] riots during that year. But um yeah,
[01:10:53] what what happened was is during a
[01:10:55] service um normal Christian worship
[01:10:57] service of a normal evangelical church
[01:11:00] um an organized, planned, and
[01:11:03] coordinated group of people entered the
[01:11:05] church during its second service. It was
[01:11:07] the first Sunday they'd had a second
[01:11:09] service. the church was growing and so
[01:11:10] they had a second service added one and
[01:11:12] they so they'd already had one the
[01:11:13] preacher had preached a message from the
[01:11:15] gospel of John chapter 13 called uh love
[01:11:18] one another and as they were in the
[01:11:21] middle of the second service a number of
[01:11:23] people who had been there for the first
[01:11:25] half of the service um stood up and
[01:11:27] began moving towards the front um doing
[01:11:30] what your video showed chanting uh
[01:11:33] various slogans uh Renee good get out
[01:11:37] Ice um all of those sort of things and
[01:11:39] eventually basically commandeered the
[01:11:41] building yelling uh and screaming at the
[01:11:44] parishioners. Um a number of whom fled
[01:11:46] very quickly because in this day and age
[01:11:49] you don't know if it's a um if this is
[01:11:52] going to be an active shooting
[01:11:52] situation, right? Like this is this is
[01:11:54] the sort of thing that happens these
[01:11:56] days. And uh so people were trying to
[01:11:58] get the kids, you know, get the kids
[01:11:59] out, get the kids safe. And uh you saw
[01:12:02] my friend um Jonathan Pastor Jonathan
[01:12:05] Parnell uh standing there saying shame
[01:12:07] on you to these activists, these
[01:12:09] agitators um and then being accosted by
[01:12:12] Don Lemon who is embedded with the group
[01:12:15] and coordinating with them uh and being
[01:12:17] heranged. Isn't this a great example of
[01:12:19] constitutional liberty? Don't these
[01:12:20] people have a right to uh you know
[01:12:23] assemble and and free speech uh as they
[01:12:26] are disrupting a Christian worship
[01:12:28] service on a Sunday morning? So, it was
[01:12:30] shocking. I'm I'm across the country now
[01:12:33] uh but watching my friends and former
[01:12:35] congregants uh be attacked in this way.
[01:12:39] Um simply uh you know because these
[01:12:42] activists um are going to escalate from
[01:12:44] beyond what they've already been doing
[01:12:46] as your previous guest uh elaborated on.
[01:12:49] >> It's shocking but it's it's predictable
[01:12:51] because all revolutions begin with
[01:12:53] killing the Christians. um always
[01:12:56] I wonder is there just is there a like
[01:13:00] justification for this to go in and
[01:13:02] scream at kids in a church service
[01:13:05] during a sermon on love one another? I
[01:13:07] mean what do you think is actually going
[01:13:08] on here?
[01:13:09] >> Uh well the presenting cause is that one
[01:13:11] of the lay pastors at the church um
[01:13:14] works for ICE. Um he's a law enforcement
[01:13:16] officer, has been for 20s something
[01:13:19] years. Um he's a good man. Um he's a
[01:13:21] close friend of mine. I'm not even going
[01:13:22] to say his name because I don't want any
[01:13:24] more harassment for him and his family.
[01:13:27] Um but uh but they they had doxed him,
[01:13:31] discovered who he was, where he went to
[01:13:32] church, and decided to make an example.
[01:13:35] Uh and so that was the presenting cause.
[01:13:38] But I think there's also um an element
[01:13:39] of, as you said, um testing the
[01:13:41] boundaries. How far can we go? how how
[01:13:43] far can we escalate these things um in
[01:13:46] order to to intimidate silence um people
[01:13:50] into doing what we want? Um and so it's
[01:13:52] not enough now to harass the harass um
[01:13:55] law enforcement officers while they
[01:13:56] carry out their duties. Um we're now
[01:13:58] going to follow them to their homes.
[01:13:59] We're going to follow them to their
[01:14:00] churches. We're going to intimidate
[01:14:02] their friends. We're going to frighten
[01:14:03] their children. um until um I guess they
[01:14:07] think um the the effect of that would be
[01:14:09] that the administration will seek cease
[01:14:11] trying to enforce its immigration laws
[01:14:12] or maybe people will stop working for
[01:14:14] ICE. I don't I don't know what the
[01:14:15] endgame is. Um but I expect if it's not
[01:14:18] dealt with in a in a swift and just
[01:14:21] manner to say this is unacceptable,
[01:14:24] there are ways that you can protest the
[01:14:25] government. This is America. Um but
[01:14:27] terrorizing people in a church is beyond
[01:14:31] the bounds and and uh it's been
[01:14:34] disappointing thus far. Um it's been
[01:14:36] encouraging on the part of the federal
[01:14:38] administration. I think the you know
[01:14:40] various people of the administration are
[01:14:42] involved and and seeking to to do
[01:14:44] something about it, arrest some people.
[01:14:46] Um but I think the local officials uh
[01:14:48] the governor, the uh mayors um are slow,
[01:14:52] you know, slowplaying it. They they have
[01:14:54] no interest in doing it. In fact, I I
[01:14:56] saw one uh uh Democratic legislator say
[01:14:59] this will continue. This sort of thing
[01:15:01] is essential to what we're doing and it
[01:15:03] will continue. So promising this is is
[01:15:05] actually the trans uh trans legislator
[01:15:08] in uh in the Twin City or in the Twin
[01:15:10] Cities um who said this is essential and
[01:15:12] it must continue which is a shocking
[01:15:13] thing um after you know um just last
[01:15:17] year a Catholic school was attacked um
[01:15:22] by a trans shooter. And so you see the
[01:15:25] escalating violence on the left um of
[01:15:28] normal Christian people. And I just want
[01:15:29] to I think I want to underscore that
[01:15:30] piece of it. Um these are not these are
[01:15:33] not political activists. This is not a
[01:15:35] political church. These are normal
[01:15:39] bibleelving evangelicals. The the
[01:15:42] mission of the church, the way that they
[01:15:43] talk um since the beginning when we
[01:15:45] planted the church and and they've
[01:15:47] continued this is real basic. They they
[01:15:49] have a number of very clear priorities
[01:15:51] what they care about. And if you asked
[01:15:53] any of them, they would say, "We're here
[01:15:55] because we want to worship Jesus. He's
[01:15:57] the most he's real. Jesus is real and
[01:16:00] he's the most important person in the
[01:16:02] universe. He's the only hope of the
[01:16:04] world. There's salvation in no one
[01:16:05] else." They are going to want to tell
[01:16:06] you that. And then they're going to say,
[01:16:07] "We want to love each other as
[01:16:08] Christians." And then they're going to
[01:16:10] say, "And we're here to seek the good of
[01:16:11] these cities. We've not given up on
[01:16:13] these cities." I in fact, I think the
[01:16:15] pastor said that in the sermon in his
[01:16:16] first service. Said, "We're here in the
[01:16:18] midst of this chaos." And he says, 'But
[01:16:20] we're not giving up on the Twin Cities.
[01:16:22] We're here because we want to love our
[01:16:23] neighbors. We want to we want to care
[01:16:25] for those. We want to give them the hope
[01:16:26] of the gospel, offer them freedom from
[01:16:29] sin and death, and that's what they're
[01:16:31] there for. And instead, this political
[01:16:33] chaos intrudes in the middle of a
[01:16:35] worship service uh and disrupt it. And
[01:16:38] it was absolutely, as as my friend said,
[01:16:40] he said, "It's absolutely shameful. It's
[01:16:42] absolutely shameful." And then
[01:16:43] immediately, I appreciate this about him
[01:16:44] so much. I said, "This is shameful, and
[01:16:47] we're here about Jesus." He wanted to
[01:16:48] make sure we're going to he's going to
[01:16:49] get that in because because that's what
[01:16:50] he cares about. That's what he's all
[01:16:52] about.
[01:16:52] >> But and I don't think we should make a
[01:16:54] mistake. Jesus was the target. It's not
[01:16:56] that they're an ICE agent who they could
[01:16:57] have hassled at his house or at his job
[01:16:59] or whatever. The target was Jesus. It
[01:17:01] was I'm sure you've seen the famous
[01:17:03] photograph from the Spanish Civil War,
[01:17:05] the opening months of the Spanish Civil
[01:17:07] War where the communist forces surround
[01:17:09] a statue of Jesus and open fire on it. A
[01:17:12] statue
[01:17:14] because they were more straightforward
[01:17:16] then. like that's the enemy. And I I do
[01:17:19] think it puts it in the right frame,
[01:17:21] >> right? Yeah, it is. It is remarkable. I
[01:17:24] think uh in in this in this moment um as
[01:17:27] we as we're talking um there is a deep
[01:17:30] sickness in our culture. I think we all
[01:17:32] feel it. Um pressure is high, tensions
[01:17:34] are high. Um and and it is um it is a
[01:17:38] spirit is a spiritual in nature. And I
[01:17:41] think that's one of the things I'm I'm a
[01:17:42] pastor. I'm still a pastor just in a
[01:17:44] different state. And um Jesus really is
[01:17:47] the only hope for this. Like there is no
[01:17:48] way out and and what's needed in the
[01:17:51] moment is forgiveness of sins and and
[01:17:54] calling people to repent of it, right?
[01:17:56] Like the reason that this this bubbles
[01:17:58] up is because sin fers and fers and fers
[01:18:01] and it's encouraged by in this case
[01:18:04] government officials who are fostering
[01:18:05] lawlessness, encouraging this kind of
[01:18:08] conduct rather than being as the Bible
[01:18:09] says they ought to be uh a terror to
[01:18:12] evil conduct. That's what when the when
[01:18:14] God lays down what should the government
[01:18:16] do? What's their job? And it's they
[01:18:18] should be a terror to evil conduct. They
[01:18:20] should execute God's wrath on the
[01:18:22] wrongdoers. Um they should reward the
[01:18:24] righteous. They should encourage good
[01:18:26] people. And they should punish bad
[01:18:27] people. That's their just basic job. And
[01:18:29] in this circumstance, they're actually
[01:18:31] doing the opposite. They're terrorizing
[01:18:33] normal law-abiding citizens. And then
[01:18:36] they're encouraging the lawless and and
[01:18:37] the lawb breakakers. And because of
[01:18:39] that, it's bubbling up. It's bubbling
[01:18:41] over and um and it's tragic. It it
[01:18:44] really is tragic. And the only way out
[01:18:45] is for people to turn from their sins
[01:18:47] and to turn back to Christ. That's
[01:18:48] that's the only hope that any of us this
[01:18:50] nation has. That's the only hope for any
[01:18:52] of us.
[01:18:53] >> It's it's literally inverted. The
[01:18:54] government encourages evil absess
[01:18:58] lawlessness and punishes decency and
[01:19:00] good. So what is the right Christian
[01:19:04] reaction to this?
[01:19:07] >> Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about
[01:19:09] that. not just because of what happened
[01:19:10] over the weekend um but because of the
[01:19:13] last few years as um you know um last
[01:19:17] fall Charlie Kirk was assassinated
[01:19:20] and um you know it's actually
[01:19:22] interesting uh years ago when we planted
[01:19:24] the church the first sermon series that
[01:19:26] we did uh was on the book of Acts you
[01:19:29] know you're planting a new church and so
[01:19:30] here's the planting of the church right
[01:19:32] and so we're preaching through the book
[01:19:33] of Acts and you begin to notice um these
[01:19:35] these patterns and you just notice that
[01:19:38] the early church leaders were just
[01:19:39] regularly colliding with the governing
[01:19:42] of authorities, right? So, they're
[01:19:44] they're they're getting they're getting
[01:19:45] hauled in. They're healing people.
[01:19:46] They're blessing people. Um they're
[01:19:48] they're sharing the gospel. They're
[01:19:49] announcing Jesus is is risen from the
[01:19:51] dead. This is great news, everybody.
[01:19:52] He's he's he is the savior of the world.
[01:19:55] And they're announcing this and and
[01:19:57] they're met with opposition and it kind
[01:19:58] of escalates and you see this
[01:20:00] escalating. At first, the leaders are
[01:20:02] kind of annoyed by it. They're like,
[01:20:03] "What are who are these guys? Why are
[01:20:05] they what are they doing? What are they
[01:20:06] saying?" And so, they haul them in for
[01:20:07] questioning. What are you guys talking
[01:20:08] about? And they're like, "Hey, no other
[01:20:10] name among heaven. Jesus. He's it's him.
[01:20:13] He he rose from the dead. You killed
[01:20:14] him. You guys killed him, but he rose
[01:20:16] from the dead." And then they they say,
[01:20:18] "All right, don't do that anymore. Stop
[01:20:20] talking about that." And they leave. And
[01:20:22] uh and then they keep preaching. They go
[01:20:24] out and they pray. They say, "Lord, you
[01:20:26] look upon their threats and help us to
[01:20:28] continue to speak the word with
[01:20:29] boldness." And they do. God answers that
[01:20:31] prayer. They speak with boldness. They
[01:20:33] preach the word. And then they get
[01:20:34] hauled back in. And this time they say,
[01:20:36] "Hey, look, we already told you guys
[01:20:37] once. Knock this off." And then they
[01:20:39] beat them. So now it's now it's a it's
[01:20:41] not just a warning, it's a violent
[01:20:42] warning. And and now the the leaders are
[01:20:44] a little bit jealous because people are
[01:20:46] flocking to this new Christian movement,
[01:20:49] right? And then it finally bubbles over
[01:20:52] um in the stoning of Steven, right?
[01:20:54] Steven is hauled before them false
[01:20:56] charges. Um they lie about him. They
[01:20:58] slander him. And then they say and then
[01:21:01] he he says he looks up into heaven. He
[01:21:03] says, "I see Jesus. I Jesus is risen and
[01:21:05] he's reigning and he condemns the
[01:21:07] wickedness around him. You guys are all
[01:21:08] you've turned aside from your God.
[01:21:10] You've abandoned him. You've killed the
[01:21:11] righteous one. You've murdered him. And
[01:21:13] then they rush upon them and they stone
[01:21:14] him to death. And so when you look at
[01:21:16] that kind of escalation in Jerusalem
[01:21:20] 2,000 years ago and then I'm sitting
[01:21:22] here reading the newspaper and going um
[01:21:26] history does not repeat itself, but it
[01:21:28] does rhyme. And when you think about the
[01:21:31] last 20 years and the escalating
[01:21:33] collisions we've seen in our country,
[01:21:34] you know, about say sec sex sexuality um
[01:21:37] and people being harassed just because
[01:21:38] they won't bake a cake uh or because
[01:21:40] they won't, you know, do flowers for a
[01:21:42] gay wedding. And you see that kind of
[01:21:44] escalating collision as Christians just
[01:21:46] try to live faithfully, faithful lives.
[01:21:47] And then it bubbled over and in the fall
[01:21:50] we we saw we found an American Steven
[01:21:52] essentially um in in Charlie Kirk. Like
[01:21:55] that's that's what happened as the left
[01:21:58] killed him. And and then so you're so I
[01:22:01] read that and I go, "Okay, well, what
[01:22:02] should we expect next?" If that's if the
[01:22:03] history's rhyming, what comes next in
[01:22:06] the story and if you read the book of
[01:22:08] Acts, right after Steven is stoned, it
[01:22:10] says a general persecution breaks out
[01:22:11] against the Christians.
[01:22:13] >> That there's that like the the the
[01:22:15] lawlessness spreads and now it doesn't
[01:22:16] matter if you're a leader or not. It
[01:22:18] doesn't matter if you're prominent or
[01:22:19] not. You could just be what? Normal
[01:22:21] people going to church on a Sunday in an
[01:22:24] American town and now you're going to be
[01:22:26] harassed and intimidated. And so this is
[01:22:28] precisely on Q. And I think and I'm
[01:22:31] encouraged by what the Bible tells us to
[01:22:34] do in that case because what those
[01:22:35] people did after that persecution broke
[01:22:38] out is they were driven out of their
[01:22:39] homes and they didn't go around moping
[01:22:42] and sulking and whining about um oh woe
[01:22:45] is me. How could this happen? I really
[01:22:47] wish that Charlie Kirk wouldn't have
[01:22:48] said that or whatever. They you Stephen
[01:22:50] should have you know kept his mouth
[01:22:51] shut. Instead it says they went about
[01:22:53] preaching the gospel. That's what they
[01:22:56] did. In other words, they imitated the
[01:22:58] boldness of their leaders who had been
[01:23:01] persecuted and they went about and and
[01:23:03] as a result uh there was a revival. The
[01:23:05] gospel goes to the Samaritans and lots
[01:23:08] of lots of people are are turning from
[01:23:10] their sins and being saved and
[01:23:12] immediately after that it this is what's
[01:23:14] most remarkable in the story. changed
[01:23:15] the history of the world is the Apostle
[01:23:18] Paul who'd been approving all of that,
[01:23:20] who'd been sanctioning it and hauling
[01:23:22] people to jail and but as a Pharisee, as
[01:23:24] an opponent of of the church, um God
[01:23:28] knocks him off his horse. Just Jesus, he
[01:23:30] he finds out Jesus is in fact real and
[01:23:32] the entire, you know, history of the
[01:23:34] world is different because now the
[01:23:36] greatest evangelist in history has come
[01:23:39] to Christ. And so I'm I see this. I see
[01:23:42] the tensions and yet um God's behind it
[01:23:45] all. He's he's sovereign. He rules. He
[01:23:47] reigns. He Jesus is real. And he is
[01:23:49] working in this for the good of his
[01:23:51] people and for the good of the world and
[01:23:52] the good of this nation. And so my
[01:23:55] encouragement to Christians would be to
[01:23:56] imitate the early church to gather
[01:24:00] together in worship on Sundays, whether
[01:24:02] they're going to harass you or not, and
[01:24:04] to pray and to say, "Lord, look upon
[01:24:06] their threats. Look what they're saying.
[01:24:08] Look at their lies." and fill us with
[01:24:10] your Holy Spirit. And grant us to preach
[01:24:12] the word of God, all of it. Whole
[01:24:14] counsel of God, courage, clarity about
[01:24:17] Jesus, about sin. Give us that ability
[01:24:20] with joy in the midst of this chaos.
[01:24:23] Give us that. That's what we want, Lord.
[01:24:25] And I believe just as God answered that
[01:24:27] prayer in the first century, he'll
[01:24:29] answer that prayer in the 21st.
[01:24:32] >> So, this is I mean, this is the
[01:24:33] spiritual war that Jesus promises that
[01:24:35] we've seen for thousands of years. We
[01:24:39] know how it ends, but in the meantime,
[01:24:41] we shouldn't be surprised and remain
[01:24:44] brave and bold. Is that a fair summary?
[01:24:47] >> Correct. Yeah. And joyful. I think I
[01:24:49] think that's
[01:24:50] >> Thank you.
[01:24:50] >> enjoy. Like I think that it's it's
[01:24:52] important because I think Christians do
[01:24:53] have a tendency sometimes when things go
[01:24:55] like this um to get um overly serious or
[01:25:00] or serious in the wrong way. I guess it
[01:25:02] can become intense and um and instead to
[01:25:05] go like, "Well, is is God like?" So, I I
[01:25:07] was watching it and one reaction I did
[01:25:09] have was um from Psalm 2 um he who sits
[01:25:12] in heaven laughs, right? Like what does
[01:25:15] God look at when the nations rage and
[01:25:16] they and they rage against his people
[01:25:18] and they rage against um Christ? What's
[01:25:20] God's reaction? He who sits in heaven
[01:25:22] laughs. He's he's not threatened by
[01:25:24] this. He's not uh scrambling. God's not
[01:25:26] going get, you know, get somebody on the
[01:25:28] phone. He's not worried about that. Um
[01:25:30] instead, he's going, "This is my
[01:25:31] sovereign hand and plan working out for
[01:25:33] the good of my people and the good of
[01:25:34] the world. Um, I am going to bring glory
[01:25:36] to myself through this this horrific
[01:25:38] stuff. Now, that doesn't mean for me as
[01:25:40] a Christian. Do I want to see justice
[01:25:42] done now as well? Absolutely. It's
[01:25:44] because Jesus is real that governing
[01:25:46] authorities ought to bear the sword
[01:25:48] faithfully. They ought to punish lawb
[01:25:50] breakakers because someday Tim Walls and
[01:25:52] Mayor Jacob Fry are going to stand
[01:25:54] before God and they're going to answer
[01:25:56] for it just like I will and just like
[01:25:58] you will.
[01:25:58] >> Yes.
[01:25:58] >> Right. Everybody listening to this is
[01:26:00] going to stand before God. Like that's
[01:26:01] what's going to happen and you're going
[01:26:03] to give an account. And so part of what
[01:26:05] they're going to account for is, hey,
[01:26:07] when when Minneapolis was in chaos, why
[01:26:10] were you stoking it? Like why wh what
[01:26:13] was that about? Like the the they're
[01:26:14] going to like some of these videos that
[01:26:16] we're seeing of the chaos being inflamed
[01:26:18] and encouraged uh by the left are going
[01:26:21] to be brought forward as evidence of
[01:26:23] their hatred of God's people, of uh of
[01:26:27] Christ. And uh and it's remarkable um to
[01:26:30] think about like it's it is a sobering
[01:26:32] thing, but as Christians, it ought to
[01:26:34] give us confidence. It's what gives us a
[01:26:35] joy in the midst of the suffering when
[01:26:37] they when they plunder, when they
[01:26:38] attack. Um there's a deep and settled
[01:26:40] joy because Tim Walls doesn't run the
[01:26:43] universe. Thank God. Jake Fry doesn't.
[01:26:46] President Trump doesn't for that matter.
[01:26:47] Like no human being runs the universe.
[01:26:50] Well, one does. Um the God man, Jesus
[01:26:52] Christ, he runs the universe.
[01:26:55] So, if I'm hearing this right, chaos
[01:26:58] just by itself is a marker of evil.
[01:27:01] Absolutely. Absolutely. It's Christ or
[01:27:02] chaos. Those are the two options. Like
[01:27:04] those are like the basic options in
[01:27:06] America today. It's Christ or chaos. You
[01:27:09] either get you either get the decay, the
[01:27:12] disorder, the lawlessness, or we turn to
[01:27:14] Jesus and he puts us everything back
[01:27:16] together. Like he puts you back together
[01:27:18] individually. Like you you're in you get
[01:27:20] forgiven for your sins and you get
[01:27:23] sanctified. You get made holy. You get
[01:27:24] healed and restored. And then he puts
[01:27:26] together our families, the brokenness
[01:27:28] there. He puts together our communities.
[01:27:30] He puts together our nation. Um, you
[01:27:32] know, listening to your monologue at the
[01:27:33] at the front of the uh the hour, it just
[01:27:35] it just struck me. You're describing
[01:27:37] sort of the uh the bulcanization of the
[01:27:39] United States. Yes. And this mass
[01:27:41] demographic transformation. U I think
[01:27:44] that's a subject that many evangelicals
[01:27:46] are uncomfortable with. Quite honestly,
[01:27:47] having been an evangelical my whole
[01:27:49] life, and it's it's uncomfortable for
[01:27:50] them to even think about or talk about.
[01:27:53] Um, and but thinking about it, it's like
[01:27:55] what's the hope then? And I think the
[01:27:57] only hope is well everybody needs to
[01:27:59] turn to Jesus and then we can sort it
[01:28:00] out. But if we don't turn to Jesus,
[01:28:02] we're just going to fight and we're
[01:28:02] going to devour each other because
[01:28:04] that's what human being apart from
[01:28:05] Christ. That's what human beings do. We
[01:28:07] we're envy, rivalry, pride, selfish
[01:28:10] ambition. That's human nature in its
[01:28:13] sort of sinful state. And so the only
[01:28:16] hope is we got to turn away from that.
[01:28:17] And then, okay, now we've got millions
[01:28:19] of people from different ethnic groups
[01:28:21] and we've got all these things. How are
[01:28:23] we going to sort it out? Well, Jesus has
[01:28:24] to be at the center of that or it won't
[01:28:26] happen. It can't happen. All you're
[01:28:28] going to get is more of this violence.
[01:28:29] Like, that's the basic the basic hope
[01:28:32] >> that is tribalism is a product of
[01:28:35] nature. It's the default setting in
[01:28:37] people. It inevitably becomes violent.
[01:28:40] It's a masochistic dynamic always and
[01:28:44] someone uh is on the wrong end of it.
[01:28:46] And the only way to avoid that is Jesus.
[01:28:49] That that's my view.
[01:28:51] >> That's absolutely true. It's absolutely
[01:28:52] true. And and it's the solution to the
[01:28:54] kind of mob violence that we see, right?
[01:28:56] Uh people always look for scapegoats.
[01:28:59] They they want to find someone to blame
[01:29:01] for all their problems. And um because
[01:29:03] they have problems and they don't want
[01:29:04] if they if they can't admit that like
[01:29:06] the biggest problem in the universe is
[01:29:07] me, like my biggest problem is me,
[01:29:10] right? Like I think I think I heard
[01:29:12] someone say that one time. Uh, and my
[01:29:15] biggest problem is me. And if they can't
[01:29:17] admit that, then they're going to start
[01:29:18] blaming everybody. And eventually they
[01:29:20] get enough people sharing their
[01:29:21] grievance. Um, that they're going to go
[01:29:23] take it out. And we saw that on Sunday.
[01:29:26] And so the only hope is own it.
[01:29:28] Acknowledge like I'm the problem and God
[01:29:31] still loves me. He sent Jesus to die for
[01:29:33] my sins for goodness sake. And so he's
[01:29:34] welcoming me back. Like I you can be the
[01:29:36] prodigal. And I and I just again as a
[01:29:38] pastor, thank you for having me on. And
[01:29:39] I just want to say to the people
[01:29:41] listening, like if you're the prodigal,
[01:29:42] if you're running away, whether you're a
[01:29:44] leftist or right-wing or, you know,
[01:29:46] non-committal or whatever, I don't care.
[01:29:48] Like, if you're the prodigal running
[01:29:49] away from God, like, you can come home.
[01:29:52] Like, he left the light on. He's got a
[01:29:53] really nice robe. He'll give you the
[01:29:55] ring. He'll kill the fatted calf. He'll
[01:29:56] throw a big party because he loves you.
[01:29:58] So, you can just come back. You don't
[01:30:00] have to keep running. And if everybody
[01:30:02] would do that, like if God would be
[01:30:04] gracious to this nation and people would
[01:30:06] turn back to Christ, turn and I mean
[01:30:08] turn back to Christ,
[01:30:11] then we could then we could talk then
[01:30:12] the political stuff, it wouldn't work
[01:30:13] itself out. There'd still be bumps and
[01:30:15] we'd still have to work it out, but we'd
[01:30:16] have a foundation to build on. And so
[01:30:18] that really is the basic um the basic
[01:30:22] choice before us individually, the basic
[01:30:24] choice before us as a nation. It's
[01:30:26] Christ or it's chaos. There is no third
[01:30:29] option. There isn't one. That's all you
[01:30:31] got.
[01:30:32] >> It's true for every person. Joe
[01:30:34] Riggnney, thank you. I really appreciate
[01:30:36] uh you coming on and putting that into
[01:30:38] perspective and and I appreciate your
[01:30:39] wisdom. Thank you.
[01:30:41] >> Hey, thanks for having me, Tucker. I
[01:30:42] appreciate it.
[01:30:42] >> Thanks.
[01:30:44] We appreciate you're watching. We'll be
[01:30:46] back next Wednesday live.
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