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[00:00:00] all right guys you are in for a treat
[00:00:01] today really actually I'm in for a treat
[00:00:03] because you know my obsession with
[00:00:05] Declassified CIA documents obviously
[00:00:07] this year I have made that book chaos
[00:00:09] required reading for any person that is
[00:00:11] watching this podcast I mean learning
[00:00:13] the truth about the CIA it is just it
[00:00:16] will Rip you into a new reality about
[00:00:18] our government what is real operation
[00:00:20] Mockingbird MK Ultra well today I have a
[00:00:24] guest who was in the CIA became a
[00:00:26] whistleblower I'm not sure how he's
[00:00:28] alive I'm going to ask him
[00:00:30] uh but it is our great and distinct
[00:00:32] honor to welcome Kevin ship to the Canda
[00:00:35] show Kevin thank you yeah thanks for
[00:00:37] having me I feel bad for you because
[00:00:38] this is like I'm just going to lock you
[00:00:40] in here and ask you so many questions
[00:00:42] right off the bat that's fine um first
[00:00:44] I'll just ask a question I think that a
[00:00:45] lot of people probably want to know a
[00:00:47] very softball question how does one
[00:00:49] become a CIA analyst do they call you
[00:00:52] after you place high on your SATs uh in
[00:00:55] some cases they do and they recruit out
[00:00:58] of some of the Ivy League colleges my
[00:01:00] case I had a friend who was in there I
[00:01:02] didn't know it because he was undercover
[00:01:04] was encouraging me to put in an
[00:01:05] application and and uh his name was Dana
[00:01:08] and I said Dana that's not going to
[00:01:10] happen not with my checkered and shaded
[00:01:11] College past you know drugs and alcohol
[00:01:14] and and all and and he said well just
[00:01:16] try it anyway and I said okay so I
[00:01:17] filled it out 171 gave it to him and
[00:01:20] just just blew it off that's the end of
[00:01:22] that I get a call this Kevin jip uh yes
[00:01:25] this is Mr X at the CIA you've uh
[00:01:28] applied for employment here I said yeah
[00:01:30] he goes uh would you like to continue
[00:01:32] with your application process and I said
[00:01:34] sure how old were you at the time I was
[00:01:36] let's see at that time I was
[00:01:39] 27 27 27 years old and they said okay
[00:01:43] then we'll continue thank you I said
[00:01:45] okay wait till they do my background
[00:01:47] investigation talk to my college friends
[00:01:49] you know then I get phone calls from my
[00:01:51] buddies two two guys in a suit knocked
[00:01:53] at our door they're FBI and they're
[00:01:55] asking questions about you and I'm
[00:01:58] like well surprised that did happen in
[00:02:00] college
[00:02:01] but uh they weren't FBI they were they
[00:02:04] were somebody else uh so I knew that
[00:02:07] they are out there checking on me and I
[00:02:08] and I was still convinced n I'll never
[00:02:10] make and then I got another call Kevin
[00:02:11] ship uh uh we are still interested in
[00:02:14] your application would you like to come
[00:02:16] into CI headquarters uh for an interview
[00:02:18] I was like okay so I go to CI
[00:02:21] headquarters in Langley Virginia walk in
[00:02:23] there in into the main building they
[00:02:25] badge me with the visitor badge I sit
[00:02:27] there lady in the business suit comes
[00:02:29] out she goes You cover ship I said yeah
[00:02:30] she goes follow me so I go down this
[00:02:32] long corter with combination locks and
[00:02:34] all the doors and at the end is this one
[00:02:37] doorway that's open and sitting behind
[00:02:39] the desk is this silver-haired guy up in
[00:02:40] this big desk and he's but this is the
[00:02:42] back where you can smoke in CI office
[00:02:44] Office Buildings and he's just chained
[00:02:46] smoking away and he goes Kevin have a
[00:02:48] seat so I sit in the chair and of course
[00:02:51] I sunk down you know and so his desk is
[00:02:53] way appear I'm like okay I know what's
[00:02:54] going on here he goes Uh Kevin got one
[00:02:59] question for you I said yes sir he goes
[00:03:02] you ever broken the law and I'm like
[00:03:05] okay that's the end of this I said uh I
[00:03:08] I'd become a Christian at that point so
[00:03:09] I you know I tried to tell the truth the
[00:03:11] best I could I said yes sir I have he
[00:03:14] goes why don't you tell me about it so I
[00:03:16] went through this long Litany of drug
[00:03:18] use and climbing to the top of radio
[00:03:19] towers and all this crazy stuff we did
[00:03:22] in college and and when I was done I was
[00:03:24] like oh well I told the truth he takes a
[00:03:27] drag off his cigarette blows out of his
[00:03:28] nose and he goes I got no problem that
[00:03:31] you want to continue I'm like yeah so
[00:03:33] anyway went to the polygraph and I did
[00:03:34] the same thing in the polygraph and told
[00:03:36] them all my my oh wow so they
[00:03:38] immediately then take you into a
[00:03:39] polygraph well it it was uh about a
[00:03:42] month after that they like to they like
[00:03:43] you to Stew so they're watching you as
[00:03:46] as they're watching you so each
[00:03:48] interview was was about almost three
[00:03:50] months apart for a total of six months
[00:03:52] okay and then one more question what
[00:03:53] were you actually doing as your career
[00:03:55] at that time I was a starving biologist
[00:03:58] okay yeah I was a biologist my uh minor
[00:04:00] was in microbiology and I decided I want
[00:04:03] to find a new career that you know I'm
[00:04:05] not made to be in a laboratory so that's
[00:04:07] why Dana had me turn in the application
[00:04:09] and so they would call you and they'd
[00:04:10] wait three months to kind of let you
[00:04:13] stew you know and next call I get uh
[00:04:16] Kevin ship yeah this is Mrs X um you
[00:04:20] have uh made it this far in your process
[00:04:23] would You' like to come in for a
[00:04:23] polygraph test and I said uh okay they
[00:04:26] said come to headquarters such and such
[00:04:28] a time and date
[00:04:30] uh and uh uh they'll send me to an outer
[00:04:32] building they do these in an outer
[00:04:34] non-discrete outer building and they
[00:04:35] said on such and such a date so I walk
[00:04:37] in there sit there with all these people
[00:04:39] that are in the chairs you know just
[00:04:40] Frozen about to take their CIA polygraph
[00:04:43] they called me back and I sat down in
[00:04:44] the chair and and they wired me up with
[00:04:46] all the wires the electrodermal plates
[00:04:48] and and everything and uh started asking
[00:04:50] me questions of course the first one was
[00:04:52] uh uh Kevin you ever broken the law and
[00:04:56] I was like
[00:04:57] okay and he was like anything El no and
[00:05:00] then they get into drugs and they get
[00:05:01] into alcohol and later on at the end of
[00:05:04] my tour I became a polygraph examiner so
[00:05:06] I knew you know much of it is is
[00:05:09] trickery it's not as much the interest
[00:05:11] instrument is really important but it's
[00:05:13] the skill of the of the examiner and how
[00:05:15] they ask questions and they do it in a
[00:05:16] specific way so they'll ask mundane
[00:05:19] questions and then they'll hit you with
[00:05:20] the big one and see how you react to the
[00:05:22] big one you know so anyway I got out of
[00:05:24] there in two hours which I understood
[00:05:26] later was a good thing and uh got my
[00:05:29] call uh U you're hired work for the CI
[00:05:32] report to CI headquarters such and such
[00:05:33] a date for my big briefing and I was in
[00:05:35] you have no idea a lot of times what
[00:05:36] you're going to be doing until you get
[00:05:38] in there you know which I certainly
[00:05:40] didn't so you were just shocked here you
[00:05:42] are biologist yeah yeah and dealing with
[00:05:45] test tubes and making no money now
[00:05:47] you're like actually now you work for
[00:05:49] the Central Intelligence Agency yeah
[00:05:51] yeah and maybe they like my check at the
[00:05:54] time uh no I was yes I was married at
[00:05:55] the time let's see I was 27 so I was I
[00:05:57] was married at the time yes and of
[00:05:59] course
[00:06:00] uh my wife couldn't know anything about
[00:06:01] once I got in there and found out what I
[00:06:03] was going to do you go through your
[00:06:06] first briefing I I want to being one of
[00:06:07] these briefers but everybody's sitting
[00:06:09] out there from secretaries to military
[00:06:12] leas on Generals in this big audience
[00:06:14] and then they tell them what the CI is
[00:06:16] all about and everybody goes whoa whoa
[00:06:18] and and they tell you how special you
[00:06:20] are and you're the 2% and that's when
[00:06:22] they start working on you nobody's like
[00:06:24] you you know and we chose you because
[00:06:26] you're special and and uh that's part of
[00:06:29] how they mess with your mind and get you
[00:06:30] to kind of be super loyal and test you
[00:06:33] to see what you'll do later uh so anyway
[00:06:36] I went through that then I started in
[00:06:38] what was called their security
[00:06:39] Protective Service they had just
[00:06:41] instituted a brand new program where
[00:06:43] they would uh train federal law
[00:06:45] enforcement officers at fletzy the
[00:06:47] federal law enforcement training center
[00:06:49] and the CI would bring them in get them
[00:06:50] a clearance uh they would be licensed
[00:06:54] federal police officers and then they
[00:06:55] would do secret things for the police
[00:06:57] inside SE headquarters and and buildings
[00:06:59] so I started there and then uh what
[00:07:02] sorts of secret things uh well protect
[00:07:05] the the way the statement is uh the
[00:07:07] security Protective Service protects CIA
[00:07:09] personnel and facilities and that means
[00:07:11] a lot especially overseas if you're
[00:07:14] protecting Personnel overseas you're
[00:07:16] involved in operations you know live or
[00:07:18] die which I wound up doing um and so uh
[00:07:22] within golly eight months I was promoted
[00:07:24] to be an agent a protective agent on the
[00:07:26] protective de detail of William Casey
[00:07:29] when he was director of the
[00:07:30] CIA and all the way up until he had his
[00:07:33] seizure and was taken to Georgetown
[00:07:35] University hospital then I was one of
[00:07:36] the agents in the hot seat outside of
[00:07:38] his hospital room while he was
[00:07:39] terminally ill and and uh that's when
[00:07:42] Bob Woodward claims he got in which is a
[00:07:45] fabrication because we caught him and
[00:07:47] showed him the door he never got in
[00:07:48] there wow and it's in his book Veil
[00:07:50] Secret Wars of the CI it's a complete
[00:07:52] fabrication wow yeah so then I went on
[00:07:55] to the counter Espionage group there was
[00:07:56] a mole in the CIA and I was in a special
[00:07:59] unit searching for that mole inside the
[00:08:01] the CIA uh then from there I went U and
[00:08:04] became uh a member of what would be the
[00:08:07] cia's version of a tier one they won't
[00:08:09] let let me say the exact name of the
[00:08:11] detail they they want me to call it an
[00:08:12] anti-terrorism assault team so we were
[00:08:15] sent overseas against uh the new
[00:08:17] People's Army terrorist group that were
[00:08:18] that were massacring police departments
[00:08:21] they were surveilling Embassy people
[00:08:22] they killed a bunch of Marines and we
[00:08:24] were sent over there to stop that from
[00:08:26] happening which country are you allowed
[00:08:27] to say no okay and uh
[00:08:29] so uh it was they said this is going to
[00:08:32] be a one-way Mission so we all took out
[00:08:33] life insurance and uh I had a close call
[00:08:36] with a terminal illness when I was a kid
[00:08:38] so I wasn't really afraid of much you
[00:08:39] know um so they asked for volunteers and
[00:08:43] only a few raised their hands and then
[00:08:44] we went through cut after cut after cut
[00:08:47] through this intense training with
[00:08:48] counter assault team training and
[00:08:50] hostage training and all this stuff and
[00:08:51] so now you're learning to shoot or had
[00:08:54] you already you're learning you're
[00:08:55] learning T tactical shooting we had to
[00:08:57] qualify in five different weapon systems
[00:08:59] we went through through really intense
[00:09:00] counterterrorism driver training we're
[00:09:03] we're we're in the dark we're driving
[00:09:04] down a track at 80 M an hour with a car
[00:09:07] ramming us from behind an instructor
[00:09:09] screaming obscenities right in our face
[00:09:12] and we had to make a 90 degree turn and
[00:09:15] do it successfully or we are off the
[00:09:17] team so okay I want to I want to stop
[00:09:19] pause here because you are saying all
[00:09:21] this stuff like it's super casual and
[00:09:22] now I feel like I'm listening to the
[00:09:24] audio of a James Bond flick okay because
[00:09:27] this is like this is incredible so they
[00:09:28] come to you and you've got this
[00:09:30] counterterrorism team and they ask who
[00:09:32] who would like to volunteer for this by
[00:09:33] the way you might die yeah cuz you've
[00:09:35] said that sort of casual yeah what but
[00:09:37] they basically were like take out some
[00:09:38] life insurance you're married at the
[00:09:40] time and you volunteer because you're a
[00:09:42] mad man I presume but you did say also
[00:09:44] because you had dealt with the terminal
[00:09:46] illness when you were younger and I
[00:09:47] wasn't afraid of dying yeah okay so what
[00:09:49] what was the terminal illness what were
[00:09:50] you I I was diagnosed with what's called
[00:09:53] bilateral hydrosis when when I was 12
[00:09:55] years old and essentially both kidneys
[00:09:58] both of my kidneys had burst
[00:10:00] and and uh I was just uh going to the
[00:10:02] bathroom and nothing was but blood was
[00:10:04] coming out so they rushed me to Fairfax
[00:10:06] Hospital and uh kidneys were gone was
[00:10:08] just a mass of blood and they gave me
[00:10:10] six weeks to live and
[00:10:13] uh my mom who was an agnostic had a
[00:10:16] friend named Sue Barton wonderful lady
[00:10:18] and she had a prayer group and that
[00:10:20] little prayer group of ladies you know
[00:10:22] believed that God still heals uh from
[00:10:24] the Bible and so they prayed and prayed
[00:10:26] and prayed I didn't know this uh they
[00:10:28] prayed and I remember remember I was in
[00:10:29] the hospital and of course I was feeling
[00:10:31] horrible I was in there for 30 days at
[00:10:32] that point and I was their poster child
[00:10:34] you know cuz I wasn't supposed to make
[00:10:35] it and then all a sudden I started just
[00:10:37] feeling healthy for the first time in a
[00:10:40] long time and I remember sitting up
[00:10:43] telling the the nurse open the window
[00:10:44] let the sunshine coming she's like okay
[00:10:47] they took me back down and x-rayed my
[00:10:48] sides and both my kidneys were back uh
[00:10:51] this is in Fairfax County records
[00:10:53] Fairfax County Hospital yeah and uh and
[00:10:56] so after that I knew something really
[00:10:58] remarkable had happened and through
[00:11:00] after my college Years I finally found
[00:11:01] was smart enough to find faith when I
[00:11:04] started looking into it to get through
[00:11:06] my thick head and uh then I I became a
[00:11:09] very sincere Christian after that so
[00:11:10] then yeah so this is why you don't have
[00:11:11] this fear of death yeah so you're you're
[00:11:13] a dedicated Christian you're like all
[00:11:15] right this this is what I'm going to do
[00:11:17] I'm going to go overseas I'm going to
[00:11:18] join this counterterrorism unit and you
[00:11:21] go through this intense training you get
[00:11:23] over there and I assume you don't die
[00:11:27] nope I I I I sure
[00:11:29] didn't die you know and it's funny that
[00:11:32] the way that it works because the CI is
[00:11:34] such a mind game that uh I went native
[00:11:37] for about five years and I became them
[00:11:41] out collecting human intelligence in the
[00:11:42] field through assets and trying to
[00:11:45] penetrate governments and things and
[00:11:47] what that does drinking with the the uh
[00:11:50] the enemy you know and and and uh what
[00:11:54] that does to your moral compass is just
[00:11:56] not good and so for 5 years I was kind
[00:11:59] of one of them you know although I was a
[00:12:02] Christian I was still a Christian but
[00:12:03] backslid would probably be a a good your
[00:12:06] job was to be dishonest my job was to
[00:12:08] steal to lie to drink with the
[00:12:10] foreigners and and I would take metal
[00:12:12] notes as I was extracting information we
[00:12:14] get them real drunk you know take him
[00:12:17] out and get them to talk and then I'd
[00:12:18] memorize everything they said and then
[00:12:20] take coded notes when I got back to the
[00:12:22] hotel and then smuggle those back the
[00:12:24] agency and write reports and and I got
[00:12:25] award for that um so uh we did a lot of
[00:12:29] that it was dirty work um that the James
[00:12:32] Bond image you know when you get out and
[00:12:34] actual case officer work it's more
[00:12:36] Sakely I would say but you've of course
[00:12:39] been severely you've gone through the
[00:12:41] propa the propaganda of the training
[00:12:43] absolutely you're a part of oh yeah it's
[00:12:45] a mind messing organization absolutely
[00:12:48] and the the defining moment which kind
[00:12:49] of opened my eyes is I was I was we were
[00:12:51] on the border of the Soviet Union KGB
[00:12:54] was everywhere we were followed we had a
[00:12:56] KGB officer that followed us everywhere
[00:12:58] we called them Boris
[00:13:00] and I left the hotel one day to go up to
[00:13:02] uh this little mall and and get
[00:13:04] something to eat in the hotel and this
[00:13:06] lady comes up to me and and she goes uh
[00:13:09] hi sir would you like to hear the Gospel
[00:13:11] of Jesus Christ excuse me and I and I I
[00:13:13] pushed her away and I said no thank you
[00:13:16] and I took about four steps and I was
[00:13:18] like my God what has happened to me you
[00:13:21] know I went back to the hotel room I was
[00:13:22] like I can't do this anymore and uh went
[00:13:25] back to headquarters and because I'd
[00:13:27] written gotten some good human
[00:13:28] intelligence and done some good
[00:13:30] operations I got a call from the
[00:13:31] division Chief we want you to come and
[00:13:33] do this collecting human intelligence in
[00:13:35] the field uh for the rest of your career
[00:13:38] uh I mean this is an offer that nobody
[00:13:40] refuse you can't refuse this you know I
[00:13:43] used to come home and take a bath go to
[00:13:45] church to take a soul bath you know
[00:13:47] after what I'd just done and I love my
[00:13:49] kids and my family more than anything so
[00:13:51] uh I told them on the phone I said uh
[00:13:53] sir thank you so much for the offer but
[00:13:56] I'm I'm not interested I'm I'm going
[00:13:58] have to turn it down to go what your
[00:14:00] career with this agency is over if you
[00:14:02] turn this down I said well yeah yes sir
[00:14:04] if that's the case then that's the case
[00:14:06] he goes uh it's over for you click he
[00:14:09] hangs up the phone and I'm like Okie
[00:14:10] doie walked out of my office and there's
[00:14:12] a I can't mention his name but he's a
[00:14:14] real well-known uh figure was now with
[00:14:17] the CIA and I walked out my head kind of
[00:14:19] hanging and uh he comes out and puts his
[00:14:22] arm around me he goes uh and excuse my
[00:14:24] my friend here but he goes Hey Kevin I
[00:14:27] said yeah yeah I'm feeling down I just
[00:14:29] got really hammered and he goes uh it's
[00:14:31] about time somebody told those bastards
[00:14:33] no I'm like that
[00:14:37] helps so uh and in the context of my
[00:14:40] career I I uncovered this vulnerability
[00:14:42] I was put on an assignment looking at uh
[00:14:44] computer system connections between the
[00:14:46] CI and some of our Allied intelligence
[00:14:49] agencies and as I was doing an
[00:14:50] investigation I uncovered a
[00:14:52] vulnerability where it appeared that any
[00:14:54] foreign intelligence service um any
[00:14:57] terrorist organization could go into the
[00:14:58] Visa section of an embassy where they're
[00:15:00] just open computers and go into that
[00:15:02] computer into the system in the embassy
[00:15:04] and identify our covert agents chief of
[00:15:07] staffs and and by extension their assets
[00:15:11] and at first I was like my gosh how can
[00:15:13] this be so I investigated further and
[00:15:15] dug and dug and it turned out that it
[00:15:17] looked like yes you can do this so I
[00:15:20] contacted the office Division and the CI
[00:15:22] responsible I said look I think this can
[00:15:24] be done and they're like we doubt it and
[00:15:27] I said well let me send my report over
[00:15:29] to you and you can give it to the
[00:15:31] division Chief and and uh let him look
[00:15:33] at it just see what he thinks so I send
[00:15:35] it through internal CIA mail I call a
[00:15:37] week later did you get my report what
[00:15:39] report I said you know the one I sent
[00:15:42] you through internal mail uh no we
[00:15:43] didn't get any report so I said okay
[00:15:45] I'll send it again so I sent it again
[00:15:47] waited a week called him okay did you
[00:15:49] get it this time what report I'm like
[00:15:51] what the heck is going on here the one I
[00:15:54] sent you uh no we don't remember any
[00:15:56] report I said all right I'm going to
[00:15:58] come over to your office office in CI
[00:15:59] headquarters and I'm going to give you
[00:16:00] the report over your desk so I did that
[00:16:03] I traveled to CI headquarters with the
[00:16:04] report walked up into the office there
[00:16:06] was the division Chief's executive Aid
[00:16:09] and I said ma'am here's the report uh I
[00:16:12] think he needs to look at this and she
[00:16:14] kind of bristled and said okay I'll give
[00:16:16] it to him week later I called did the
[00:16:19] chief get a chance to uh read my report
[00:16:22] he goes she goes I don't remember any
[00:16:24] report I'm like uh ma'am the one I just
[00:16:26] handed you over your desk I don't
[00:16:28] remember that we don't remember any any
[00:16:30] report then I went into the CIA server
[00:16:32] in headquarters and they had erased my
[00:16:34] report from the CIA server and I was
[00:16:37] like what on Earth is going on here you
[00:16:38] would think that they'd want to know
[00:16:40] about this and do something so their
[00:16:41] guys don't get killed so guys don't get
[00:16:42] killed yeah and then I get a call from
[00:16:45] this division Chief in a menacing tone
[00:16:47] Kevin ship I'm like this is so and so
[00:16:50] from uh Clarence protection division
[00:16:53] I'll call it I said yes sir he goes I'm
[00:16:55] ordering you to drop this investigation
[00:16:57] and drop it now or else it's your career
[00:17:00] I'm like but sir he goes no I'm tell
[00:17:03] ordering you to stop it click and and uh
[00:17:06] okay what do I do then uh well it turns
[00:17:09] out that my immediate boss uh I'll call
[00:17:12] Jack leaked my report to Department of
[00:17:16] State senior inspector General's office
[00:17:19] former decorated CI officer was now one
[00:17:23] of the leaders in their staff and I get
[00:17:24] this phone call on the secure line Kevin
[00:17:26] this is Jim so and so uh and I knew who
[00:17:29] he was I mean he's very well respected
[00:17:31] in the agency I said yeah yes sir he
[00:17:33] goes listen uh we got a copy of your
[00:17:35] report and we think there may be a
[00:17:37] concern here uh so I said uh uh yeah I
[00:17:41] think so too and he goes would you come
[00:17:42] over to State and brief us and I said
[00:17:44] certainly so I went over to Department
[00:17:46] of State briefed the IG and they looked
[00:17:47] at it and they said yeah this is
[00:17:48] concerning uh let us look at this and
[00:17:50] then we'll get back to you so I go back
[00:17:53] to my uh desk in this outer building I
[00:17:55] get a call from Jim he goes Kev uh this
[00:17:58] looks serious
[00:17:59] we're going to do a global investigation
[00:18:01] to this and see if this is really
[00:18:03] happening do not tell the
[00:18:05] CIA what you're doing or what we're
[00:18:09] doing keep this secret you'll hear from
[00:18:11] us in about three months so I was like
[00:18:14] goodness okay three months I get a call
[00:18:16] on on the secure line and it's Jim he
[00:18:18] goes Kevin we need you to come over to
[00:18:20] State uh it's worse than even you
[00:18:22] thought I said yes sir he goes could you
[00:18:24] be at State this Friday at such to such
[00:18:26] a time I said yes sir so I went over
[00:18:28] there and uh the IG guys buzz me in on
[00:18:30] the Upper Floor and I walk in and
[00:18:32] there's Jim and the two IG guys they say
[00:18:33] come on back to the conference room I
[00:18:35] walk into this room with this long
[00:18:37] Walnut conference room and I sit on one
[00:18:39] side of the table Jim on the other two
[00:18:41] two IG guys at the end and they said uh
[00:18:44] the CI will be here in just a moment I'm
[00:18:46] like oh I didn't know the CIA was coming
[00:18:48] to this um and uh so um we wait there's
[00:18:54] a buzz on the door the door opens and in
[00:18:57] walks the chief the vision chief of this
[00:18:59] cover protection division who told you
[00:19:01] drop it told me the division that told
[00:19:03] me to drop it or else and they said uh
[00:19:06] have a seat at the end of the table sir
[00:19:09] and uh this is gs15 CI official and uh
[00:19:12] way above my head he sat down at the end
[00:19:15] of the table he didn't know why he was
[00:19:16] there he was kind of he was kind of
[00:19:18] nervous and they said uh consider this
[00:19:21] an official rebuke by the Department of
[00:19:23] State to the
[00:19:25] CIA for putting the lives of of their
[00:19:28] covert agents at risk for over 10 years
[00:19:31] and then covering it up consider this an
[00:19:33] official rebuke and this report is going
[00:19:35] to go to the entire intelligence
[00:19:37] community and they're all going to see
[00:19:39] what you've done well he blood just
[00:19:41] drained from his face he got Ash and
[00:19:44] white and froze and was and shocked was
[00:19:47] like uhoh we're busted and they said you
[00:19:50] can go now so he gets up and he walks
[00:19:53] out and I'm sitting there thinking well
[00:19:55] that's the end of me that's the end of
[00:19:56] my care and I remember going back to the
[00:19:57] CI headquarters
[00:19:59] walking through the main hallway and it
[00:20:00] was figuratively speaking it was like I
[00:20:01] had a laser dot in my back I knew they
[00:20:04] were coming for me and eventually they
[00:20:06] wound up assigning me to a a secret base
[00:20:09] where they did all kinds of Dirty deeds
[00:20:11] and buried a bunch of stuff and put me
[00:20:13] in a house that they knew was badly
[00:20:15] contaminated the people in it before
[00:20:17] were very ill and uh and ordered me and
[00:20:21] my family into this house and uh we all
[00:20:23] got terribly sick my son's immune system
[00:20:26] was was destroyed
[00:20:28] the IM immunologist said it looked like
[00:20:30] he'd been exposed to a burst of
[00:20:31] radiation uh my wife was uh bedridden
[00:20:34] bruising all over her body bleeding from
[00:20:36] her guns she was in dementia lost her
[00:20:38] short-term memory the CI was ordering me
[00:20:42] not to tell anybody about it they
[00:20:43] wouldn't they wouldn't allow any medical
[00:20:45] tests any environmental tests uh told me
[00:20:48] to keep it quiet they wouldn't let me
[00:20:49] coma contact my supervisor back in
[00:20:52] Washington and uh anyway uh so uh it was
[00:20:57] bad then they broke into our house house
[00:20:59] you know I was two steps ahead cuz I was
[00:21:01] them so we were out of the house and I
[00:21:03] put tape seals on all the doors and
[00:21:04] windows and a little Radio Shack voice
[00:21:07] activated tape recorder you know how
[00:21:09] technically Advanced I put it up in the
[00:21:12] in the civilware container and then a
[00:21:13] little safety zone motion activated
[00:21:16] siren while we were gone and uh we get
[00:21:19] back we go into the house all five tape
[00:21:21] seals are broken I I turn on the tape
[00:21:24] recorder and you can hear the door
[00:21:25] opening with a master key some rustling
[00:21:28] around you can hear the the alarm go off
[00:21:30] and then shut off immediately they knew
[00:21:32] how to shut that thing off and you had
[00:21:34] to kind of know what to do and uh at
[00:21:37] that point I'd filed a personal injury
[00:21:39] suit against the CI because they were
[00:21:40] covering this thing up and we went back
[00:21:42] into where looked like most of the
[00:21:44] toxins were coming in they were coming
[00:21:46] in from below and above and there were
[00:21:49] uh big paint brushes of invisible
[00:21:51] chemical the CIA had broken in and
[00:21:53] painted on the ceiling they didn't know
[00:21:55] that I was using a back black light cuz
[00:21:57] that's how you can find a lot of toxin
[00:21:58] is with black light and I remember
[00:22:00] Clinton my and a courageous attorney
[00:22:02] were standing there and I hit it with
[00:22:04] the black light and he goes this is like
[00:22:06] three days at the Condor I'm like every
[00:22:08] time I think they're not going to do
[00:22:09] something they do anyway that led to me
[00:22:12] coming out becoming a whistleblower and
[00:22:14] and then seeing what the CIA will do to
[00:22:16] whistleblowers and the perfected system
[00:22:18] that's why you never hear about CIA
[00:22:20] whistleblowers they have a perfected
[00:22:22] system of of career destruction if you
[00:22:25] talk about anything that you see that is
[00:22:27] criminal or legal or whatever to to to
[00:22:30] uh classify it seal it put it under the
[00:22:34] state Secrets privilege and and they
[00:22:35] threatened me and my wife and kids with
[00:22:37] prison if we talked about the evidence I
[00:22:40] collected to anyone and then I was that
[00:22:42] was it that's it so I wrote from the
[00:22:44] company of Shadows came out went to
[00:22:46] First not knowing to The Washington Post
[00:22:49] and said I'm a fory officer I want to
[00:22:51] come out with this story And the
[00:22:53] reporter was like okay yeah uh he
[00:22:56] started calling me and over 30 days I
[00:23:00] gave him the story unclassified story
[00:23:02] over 30 days he kept calling and asking
[00:23:05] questions that required classified
[00:23:07] answers and I wouldn't give them to him
[00:23:09] this one on finally I said look look uh
[00:23:11] Charlie Savage at the New York Times
[00:23:13] wants this story so if you're not going
[00:23:14] to do this and you keep this up I'm
[00:23:15] going to give it to him no please my
[00:23:17] editor my editor is on me to to ask
[00:23:19] these questions well guess who his
[00:23:21] editor was Bob
[00:23:23] Woodward uh Mockingbird uh poster child
[00:23:27] Bob Woodward
[00:23:29] and it turns out that that post had gone
[00:23:31] straight to the CIA and reported my
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[00:24:26] docomond yeah I don't most people know
[00:24:28] this and it's it's interesting now
[00:24:30] because I I'm now realizing that I know
[00:24:32] nothing about history and so many people
[00:24:34] think it was this Brave thing that Bob
[00:24:36] Woodward did and was in contact with
[00:24:37] deep throw but it was actually the state
[00:24:39] overthrowing Nixon like it was it was a
[00:24:41] deep State overthrew Nixon they wanted
[00:24:43] him out and then they wanted to make it
[00:24:44] seem like it was this like heroic thing
[00:24:46] to the public uh and so actually Nixon
[00:24:49] was a victim of the deep State correct
[00:24:51] just like JFK was before him and so
[00:24:54] realizing that that Bob Woodward is
[00:24:56] claim to fame is had a source yeah your
[00:24:59] Source was the CIA that was trying to to
[00:25:02] radically OU to president stage a coup
[00:25:05] essentially so you realize then at that
[00:25:09] point and by the way just to slow this
[00:25:10] down and I know people that watch this
[00:25:12] already know about operation Mockingbird
[00:25:13] but it is really one of the most crucial
[00:25:16] ones to understanding the mainstream
[00:25:17] media web uh the CIA puts this into
[00:25:19] place and quite literally just puts
[00:25:21] journalists on the CIA payroll uh to be
[00:25:23] able to control the information that's
[00:25:26] out to the getting out to the public
[00:25:27] after JFK get shot they're worried about
[00:25:30] what's going to happen the public is
[00:25:32] asking too many questions so they just
[00:25:33] want journalists to all say the exact
[00:25:35] same thing and we still see this today
[00:25:38] there was no discontinuation of project
[00:25:40] Mockingbird so you make the mistake of
[00:25:42] going there must be a noble media member
[00:25:44] at the Washington Post that was all in
[00:25:46] the past you know it doesn't continue
[00:25:48] today well what year is this by the way
[00:25:50] what's that what year is this that
[00:25:51] you're dealing with that would be uh
[00:25:54] 201 12 okay and then that's when I wrote
[00:25:57] from the company Shadows
[00:25:58] so yeah and then and then I started
[00:26:00] experiencing firsthand uh other uh major
[00:26:03] Publishers when I wrote from the company
[00:26:05] of Shadows oh no no no we can't touch
[00:26:07] that we don't want to make the CIA mad
[00:26:09] and the CIA had threatened a lot of
[00:26:10] journalists and a lot of uh Publishers
[00:26:14] Don't touch don't touch anything against
[00:26:16] the CIA so they were all terrified and
[00:26:19] plus the editors of the Washington Post
[00:26:21] The Washington Post is one of the
[00:26:22] founders of Mocking Bird Philip York
[00:26:24] Times what's that one of the highest New
[00:26:27] York Times yes Time Magazine they had
[00:26:29] 400 more than
[00:26:31] 400 reporters and news anchors on CIA
[00:26:35] payroll and operation mocking bir
[00:26:37] started um and now uh they fun they
[00:26:40] operate two ways a journalist with any
[00:26:43] major news media or or news periodical
[00:26:46] knows that if they investigate do a real
[00:26:49] investigative piece on the CIA they're
[00:26:51] done I mean the editors tell them many
[00:26:54] editors have a quid proquo with the CIA
[00:26:56] uh not to report negatively on the CIA
[00:26:58] and there's some major news
[00:27:00] organizations that people watch that do
[00:27:02] not that have that relationship and so
[00:27:05] if they say anything negative about the
[00:27:07] CIA the CIA will stop feeding them
[00:27:09] stories so that they can get the first
[00:27:11] scoop and cut them off and that's going
[00:27:14] on right now with uh several well-known
[00:27:17] news organizations I mentioned the one
[00:27:19] with the CIA the Bell pin um so uh
[00:27:22] clearly going on then this last
[00:27:24] Administration thank God which is out
[00:27:26] the back door uh started what's called
[00:27:28] The Trusted news initiative where the CI
[00:27:32] signed an agreement with the Associated
[00:27:34] Press The Washington Post of course um
[00:27:36] and all four social media companies in
[00:27:39] The Trusted news initiative signed an
[00:27:40] agreement with the dni and the CIA not
[00:27:42] to report to sensor certain pieces of
[00:27:45] information on all social media and in
[00:27:47] their reporting literally signed a an
[00:27:49] agreement not to do that now when you
[00:27:51] sign a CIA agreement uh especially if
[00:27:54] there's money involved they'll put you
[00:27:55] under a non-disclosure agreement with a
[00:27:57] threat of prison if you talk about
[00:27:59] anything you're not supposed to talk
[00:28:01] about and and that's how the CIA
[00:28:02] controls journalists that's why there
[00:28:04] are no whistleblowers until recently uh
[00:28:08] because of the NDA you come out and you
[00:28:09] talk about this you're going to going to
[00:28:11] prison you sign a secrecy agreement as
[00:28:13] an officer never to put anything out
[00:28:16] without the CIA approving it which means
[00:28:17] they'll redact or black out the entire
[00:28:19] thing which they did my first book uh
[00:28:22] and uh and sit on it for a year or two
[00:28:23] that's what they do every single time
[00:28:25] and some of that's in the book it's
[00:28:27] really comp compelling to consider that
[00:28:29] you did what you thought was an act of
[00:28:31] service trying to rescue the lives of
[00:28:33] other CIA servicemen report this hey
[00:28:36] this must be by accident that we have
[00:28:38] this exposure to them that can access
[00:28:40] their information via visa application
[00:28:42] whatever it is and this resulted in you
[00:28:45] being poisoned like they were just going
[00:28:47] to they were just going to poison you
[00:28:48] and your family because how dare you and
[00:28:49] it was a direct order of course my mind
[00:28:51] is instantly running why would they not
[00:28:54] want to deal with that of course if they
[00:28:56] realize that CIA service can killed and
[00:28:58] then of course my mind then instantly
[00:29:00] goes to because they kind of wanted them
[00:29:02] to get killed so they could you know
[00:29:03] declare an act of war against whatever
[00:29:05] Target it is they killed somebody in the
[00:29:07] CIA and you know it was it was a this is
[00:29:09] their favorite a remarkable intelligence
[00:29:11] failure They Were Somehow able to access
[00:29:14] the information by accident we had no
[00:29:16] idea in reality they wanted these people
[00:29:19] to be harmed why would they not take
[00:29:22] care of something that clearly put their
[00:29:24] agents lives at risk why would they
[00:29:26] leave it there to the point of covering
[00:29:28] up threatening me and then taking the
[00:29:30] report off off the CIA server unless
[00:29:34] they wanted that vulnerab vulnerability
[00:29:36] there to use if there was a say a chief
[00:29:37] of station who wasn't playing by the by
[00:29:39] the book or or they wanted to plausible
[00:29:42] denial for some operation that went bad
[00:29:44] to blame you know how how it happened
[00:29:47] and that's the only logical conclusion I
[00:29:49] just think false Flags it's like
[00:29:51] somebody gets hurt and then you say you
[00:29:52] had no idea how this happened and now we
[00:29:53] have to retaliate because our guys are
[00:29:55] getting killed or somebody high up got
[00:29:57] killed of going going to the Homeland
[00:30:01] and this people are asking all the time
[00:30:03] like how many false flags have they
[00:30:05] allowed these remarkable security
[00:30:07] failures to happen several a lot several
[00:30:10] from goodness Grace from the Vietnam war
[00:30:13] with the Gulf of talking that was a
[00:30:14] false flag the the Vietnamese ships on
[00:30:17] the radar attacking those were fake the
[00:30:20] CIA added those on the radar that they
[00:30:22] gave the Congress the Vietnam War was
[00:30:24] started by a false flag and look at
[00:30:26] 50,000 Americans soldiers died and a
[00:30:29] million Vietnamese civilians died
[00:30:32] because of that uh um and then you go to
[00:30:35] Iraq the false intelligence from Iraq
[00:30:39] 500,000 Iraqi civilians 25 200 US troops
[00:30:43] were killed and 200,000 US service
[00:30:46] Personnel were badly injured uh because
[00:30:49] of false intelligence from the CIA
[00:30:51] remarkable intelligence failure yeah
[00:30:54] even Pearl Harbor they had warnings of
[00:30:56] it happening that they chose
[00:31:01] like it was justkt failure they heard it
[00:31:05] was and then it happened and then what
[00:31:07] do you know we're in World War II and
[00:31:09] this just really gets into the
[00:31:10] military-industrial complex because they
[00:31:12] need to make sure that the public is on
[00:31:14] their side yeah and that is why this
[00:31:16] book chaos blew my mind to think that
[00:31:18] the Charles Manson Murders which
[00:31:19] fundamentally changed people were so
[00:31:21] traumatized by how graphic these murders
[00:31:23] were and to know the CIA was there that
[00:31:26] night I mean what that Tom o' uncovered
[00:31:29] and almost he dedicated his whole life
[00:31:31] to it you know he was flat broke and
[00:31:32] just filing fya requests for years
[00:31:35] realizing that the public thought that
[00:31:37] Charles Manson just hypnotized some
[00:31:39] people to do these crazy things but in
[00:31:40] reality everything we know about the
[00:31:42] Nancy murders this guy was MK Ultra he
[00:31:44] was trained by the government and this
[00:31:47] was in order for people to I guess to
[00:31:50] just end the hippie dream they they
[00:31:51] wanted to go to war people the hippies
[00:31:53] were too love rock and roll and this
[00:31:55] leading up to the Vietnam War J
[00:31:58] bloodthirst Vietnam Cambodia it's
[00:32:01] incredible the lengths they will go
[00:32:03] through to get the public on the side of
[00:32:05] war and extremely upsetting and then
[00:32:08] even in that back in the
[00:32:09] 60s that was a pretty much project
[00:32:12] Mockingbird because he explained how all
[00:32:14] the Press them was wa watching writing
[00:32:16] every minute every detail because they
[00:32:18] wanted to traumatize the press and these
[00:32:20] moments are traumatizing Pearl Harbor
[00:32:23] traumatizing I always go back to my
[00:32:25] propaganda as a a child um School 911
[00:32:29] and now I think back in it I'm going oh
[00:32:30] my gosh just the words they use and they
[00:32:33] don't want think about anything but the
[00:32:34] emotion of it right like so we get in
[00:32:36] line and we go okay yeah no we're
[00:32:38] totally okay with establishing TSA and
[00:32:40] giving up all of our freedoms in order
[00:32:42] for us to stay safe gutting the
[00:32:43] Constitution gutting the Constitution
[00:32:45] because all they're doing is showing us
[00:32:46] these images and talking about terrorism
[00:32:48] and we're I was in the classroom and
[00:32:49] they're telling us you know in order to
[00:32:51] be safe to keep you safe and then we
[00:32:52] have to go to war and we we can't just
[00:32:54] quickly say war in Iraq is okay don't
[00:32:57] even ask questions even though though
[00:32:58] there were saes in the plane yeah all it
[00:33:00] takes is something very traumatizing to
[00:33:02] happen operation Mockingbird in full
[00:33:05] effect and you can in most instances get
[00:33:08] the public to be persuaded to go into a
[00:33:12] war a conflict that they know nothing
[00:33:14] about you nailed it you nailed it uh yes
[00:33:18] and in terms of 911 uh I taught criminal
[00:33:21] investigations at a college and I did
[00:33:23] investigations obviously Espionage
[00:33:25] investigations in the agency a criminal
[00:33:28] investigation was never done on 911 uh
[00:33:31] they automatically blamed it on
[00:33:32] terrorism they didn't examine any of the
[00:33:34] evidence as a matter of fact they bust
[00:33:36] out all of the Iron and Steel on barges
[00:33:39] to China the next day uh uh and they
[00:33:42] made these ridiculous and you know they
[00:33:43] when they do their propaganda it seems
[00:33:46] so stupid on its face but they repeat it
[00:33:48] so many times for example well we can
[00:33:51] prove that it was such and such um
[00:33:53] hijacker that that flew the plane in the
[00:33:55] building because we found his passport
[00:33:57] laying on East Street so stupid what uh
[00:34:01] let's see the plane was incinerated the
[00:34:03] floor above and below the plane were
[00:34:05] incinerated there was absolutely nothing
[00:34:07] left the building was powder but
[00:34:10] amazingly they found this passport that
[00:34:12] proved their narrative oh this year we
[00:34:16] did a two episode series on 911 to go
[00:34:18] backwards because I was a child and to
[00:34:20] show people we found these old clips and
[00:34:22] showed them do you realize how much we
[00:34:24] Rel lied to about 911 like it's just
[00:34:26] unbelievable when you when you look back
[00:34:27] at everything they told astounding and
[00:34:30] then the things that they ignored that
[00:34:31] happened that day and the presence of
[00:34:34] the mad that was there and and and they
[00:34:36] never really answered the question and
[00:34:38] just Tower seven Tower 7 was very
[00:34:40] clearly just dropped to the come on you
[00:34:42] cannot explain that away I mean and then
[00:34:44] they when you learn even more which I
[00:34:46] didn't even show on the show about the
[00:34:48] art students that were there that were
[00:34:50] also intelligent art students and and
[00:34:53] and then the weeks leading up just like
[00:34:56] what a coincidence what a CO
[00:34:58] and I did some research on plane crashes
[00:35:00] as I'm sure many of your viewers have
[00:35:02] and every single plane crash especially
[00:35:05] a large aircraft there's always always
[00:35:07] wreckage left of the parts that can't be
[00:35:09] blown apart the the uh landing gear and
[00:35:12] the engines specifically a lot of times
[00:35:14] the nose cone well Shanksville
[00:35:16] Pennsylvania no wreckage
[00:35:19] whatsoever uh the Pentagon there were no
[00:35:22] engines uh there were no no none of the
[00:35:24] the landing gear nothing and yet there
[00:35:26] were servicemen around that said
[00:35:28] I've served in active military it was a
[00:35:29] missile I I can tell you the sound of a
[00:35:31] missile and they ignored all of this and
[00:35:33] then we even pulled an old clip of a CNN
[00:35:36] journalist who was on the ground that
[00:35:37] day and said I got up close there's no
[00:35:39] plane and they just kind of tried to
[00:35:40] wipe this from the internet and so we
[00:35:42] had to dig up this I'm like you had a
[00:35:44] CNN journalist who was just probably
[00:35:46] telling just telling the truth and it's
[00:35:47] like I'm here this is amazing like I got
[00:35:49] up close there's no plane yeah and you
[00:35:52] just see this perfect hole and then you
[00:35:53] have all these people who know who have
[00:35:55] been act active military zones who said
[00:35:57] I heard heard a missile that day they
[00:35:59] don't releasee they they classify images
[00:36:02] of the plane G 200 who knows when Tom
[00:36:06] fitt and Judicial Watch was finally able
[00:36:07] and you can't see anything it's like
[00:36:09] what hit the Pentagon that day yeah just
[00:36:13] directly and then they call us
[00:36:14] conspiracy theorists yeah which is a
[00:36:16] part of operation mockberg that the CIA
[00:36:17] created that the CIA created that and
[00:36:19] yeah I've got to copy that memo people
[00:36:21] calling people conspiracy theorists well
[00:36:23] let's just change that and call it
[00:36:24] conspiracy investigators how about that
[00:36:27] conspir which is what we need these days
[00:36:30] you know um so what do you mean you got
[00:36:32] a memo of conspiracy theor uh there's a
[00:36:33] memo where where finally a freedom
[00:36:36] information act request uh was answered
[00:36:38] and they gave a memo where the CI said
[00:36:40] responding to the JFK assassination uh
[00:36:42] we need to respond the conspiracy
[00:36:44] theories that are out there about this
[00:36:46] shooting and that's where the conspiracy
[00:36:47] theory label came from was from that
[00:36:50] that memo and uh that's that's an easy
[00:36:54] used to be an easy out to Brand somebody
[00:36:57] a spiracy there to to avoid the facts
[00:36:59] like 9/11 there needs to be a criminal
[00:37:01] investigation despite the destruction of
[00:37:03] evidence of 9911 and never there never
[00:37:06] was and in the book Alvin Buzzy cron
[00:37:08] guard who ordered the ciig to silence
[00:37:11] and destroy me because of what was on
[00:37:13] that base dirty tricks on that base
[00:37:15] Alvin Buzzy cron guard George tenet's XO
[00:37:19] came directly from Wall Street Alex
[00:37:21] Browns and Sons was his Corporation cron
[00:37:25] guard didn't want anybody know know this
[00:37:27] but he'd been affiliated with Wall
[00:37:29] Street with the CIA for years and and
[00:37:32] tenant and he made it look like that was
[00:37:34] his first stint and they just brought
[00:37:36] him in from Wall Street well that wasn't
[00:37:37] true he was associated with the CI for
[00:37:39] years and a few days before the planes
[00:37:42] hit the towers Buzzy cron guard's
[00:37:44] company sold all short sold all their
[00:37:47] stock in United Airlines and American
[00:37:48] Airlines and in the 9911 report which is
[00:37:52] almost like the Warren Commission report
[00:37:54] uh they didn't really want to find
[00:37:56] anything or uh they mentioned there was
[00:37:59] some short selling going Short Selling
[00:38:00] meaning you know something's going to
[00:38:01] happen so you sell your stock for cheap
[00:38:04] uh uh there were some companies that
[00:38:06] short sold stock in the airlines uh uh
[00:38:09] but we found nothing there same with
[00:38:11] like Larry Silverstein who like
[00:38:12] purchased the insurance on it just six
[00:38:14] weeks
[00:38:15] before incredible yeah and we found no
[00:38:17] Trace at Alca had funded it you know uh
[00:38:20] well they Buzzy kard is not mentioned
[00:38:22] because he was the one that his company
[00:38:24] sold those short sold those stocks but
[00:38:26] it stuck way down in a footnote in the
[00:38:29] 911 Commission report that there was
[00:38:31] this company and blah blah blah blah
[00:38:32] well that that's in our book as now
[00:38:34] which company was this this was Alex
[00:38:36] Brown and Trust which was later bought
[00:38:38] by the deuts bank Buzzy cron guard came
[00:38:40] over acting like he was only making a
[00:38:42] dollar for service of his country when
[00:38:43] in reality he made $71 million off the
[00:38:46] sale from Alex Alex uh uh trust and Sons
[00:38:50] to deuts bank before he came with the
[00:38:52] CIA he was a multi-millionaire but he
[00:38:54] claimed that you know he was doing it
[00:38:55] for for a country
[00:38:58] uh so and it was it was Buzzy kard that
[00:39:00] went after me uh when I uncovered that
[00:39:04] vulnerability and and uh ordered this
[00:39:06] ciig and I I named the name of the IG
[00:39:09] person at the time to to personally
[00:39:11] attack me I was approached at an off
[00:39:13] side I was a program manager for
[00:39:14] Department of State after that and uh
[00:39:17] the pro the former senior IG official
[00:39:19] that was there when they were ordered to
[00:39:21] destroy me had retired and he'd come
[00:39:23] with this company I was with he comes
[00:39:25] over at this program manager conference
[00:39:27] and sits down and and I knew him his
[00:39:29] name is Larry I can't give his last name
[00:39:31] Larry goes Kevin I need to talk to you I
[00:39:33] said yeah Larry goes listen I was on the
[00:39:35] IG when your case hit we were ordered to
[00:39:39] silence and destroy you this is a
[00:39:41] ciig he said I just wanted to apologize
[00:39:44] uh for what they did to you and I said
[00:39:46] uh that's great Larry I wish somebody
[00:39:48] somebody would have done something
[00:39:49] before you know because my family was
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[00:40:55] it's interesting to realize how severely
[00:40:58] propagandized those agents have to be to
[00:41:00] realize you're working for an agency
[00:41:02] that is sending you out to destroy
[00:41:03] somebody who has worked for this agency
[00:41:05] which means they're teaching you loyalty
[00:41:06] that they are not ever going to
[00:41:08] reciprocate to you right and that
[00:41:10] doesn't come online for these agents I
[00:41:11] think about that all the time as I'm
[00:41:13] unpacking all of these things and what
[00:41:14] the CIA has been involved in and you
[00:41:16] know I was even speaking to a guy about
[00:41:17] the moon landing and how many people got
[00:41:19] killed you know very bizarrely died in
[00:41:21] mysterious circumstances and you just
[00:41:23] wonder when you see these agents like
[00:41:25] when does it come online you're not a
[00:41:28] part of them like there is a very small
[00:41:30] Elite who realizes that if they make you
[00:41:32] think that you're in you're in the cool
[00:41:33] club that you'll do anything for that
[00:41:35] yeah you'll put your lives on the line
[00:41:37] but to to them to the people at the very
[00:41:39] top they'll replace you tomorrow they'll
[00:41:41] kill you tomorrow you know you're as
[00:41:43] good as you can serve them today yes and
[00:41:45] it's just interesting to hear that that
[00:41:47] they were sent to go destroy a CIA agent
[00:41:49] as if they weren't CIA I would go I'm
[00:41:51] working for the wrong place if you're
[00:41:53] asking me to destroy someone that's a
[00:41:55] colleague yeah yeah was for for what
[00:41:58] because he tried to save other
[00:42:00] colleagues yeah and and he's exposing
[00:42:02] this base that we've been trying to hide
[00:42:03] for decades and all kinds of bad stuff
[00:42:06] that they' buried there uh yeah and I'll
[00:42:09] tell you the 20% the top 20% of the CIA
[00:42:13] especially at the highest levels they're
[00:42:15] malignant
[00:42:16] narcissists they do not care about human
[00:42:19] life now that the 80% below there's a
[00:42:21] lot of good patriotic you know America
[00:42:24] loving people just doing their job but
[00:42:26] the 20% that's where the darkness and
[00:42:29] the evil is because they they do not
[00:42:30] believe in democracy at that level and
[00:42:34] they could care less about the
[00:42:35] Constitution obviously because they
[00:42:37] break federal law all the time they
[00:42:38] broke it in my case several times so uh
[00:42:41] it's that top dark 20% that that are
[00:42:44] doing the same things they've been doing
[00:42:45] since MK Ultra was initiated and MK
[00:42:47] Ultra was in place for 20 years that was
[00:42:49] not a short program I think it's still
[00:42:51] in place well you got to ask yourself uh
[00:42:54] yeah why would uh Thomas uh Crooks
[00:42:57] uh shoot take a shot at Donald Trump and
[00:43:00] you look at his background of course
[00:43:01] it's under investigation so they're not
[00:43:03] going to release you know but this guy
[00:43:05] this guy had three encrypted overseas
[00:43:06] bank accounts which I haven't heard
[00:43:08] anybody investigate that he had no
[00:43:11] history of criminal violence no threats
[00:43:13] he was a brainiac in school he' received
[00:43:15] an award as an honor student of course
[00:43:17] he was in a Black Rock commercial but in
[00:43:19] my opinion that was just a coincidence
[00:43:20] because they were bright students they
[00:43:22] were interviewing but but uh this kid
[00:43:24] had no history no inclination to do that
[00:43:27] and yet one day he climbs up and and
[00:43:29] does that then there's Siran Siran and
[00:43:31] both Bobby Kennedy and I are absolutely
[00:43:34] convinced that Siran Siran was an MK
[00:43:36] Ultra uh a programmed by MK Ultra he had
[00:43:40] no memory of of shooting Bobby Kennedy
[00:43:42] senior and when they went into to
[00:43:45] hypnotize him they said he was so easy
[00:43:46] to hypnotize they had him Climbing Up
[00:43:48] and Down the Walls like a monkey they
[00:43:50] could make him do whatever they wanted
[00:43:52] and he would do it he's just that's just
[00:43:53] the way his mind was like it had been
[00:43:55] really badly messed with so I think
[00:43:58] Bobby Kennedy and I are convinced that
[00:43:59] was an MK Ultra subject too yeah I'm
[00:44:01] very convinced that he was obviously
[00:44:03] murdered and somebody also was telling
[00:44:05] me someone on the pbd podcast was
[00:44:07] telling me there's actually a book
[00:44:08] that's super interesting that it wasn't
[00:44:09] even him being stabbed that killed him
[00:44:11] it basically one of the things that you
[00:44:13] also learn in this chaos book which is
[00:44:15] the same which is that there are corrupt
[00:44:17] medical examiners uh and after people di
[00:44:20] he was telling me that there was an
[00:44:21] injection that went into his neck and
[00:44:23] they that killed him instantly um so
[00:44:25] there's always a Lackey and they're
[00:44:27] supposed to be someone that makes sure
[00:44:28] that the job gets done and so that's one
[00:44:30] I haven't had time really to explore
[00:44:32] that death but tanan I I really want to
[00:44:34] look into that but it's very likely you
[00:44:36] can always tell in the manner and the
[00:44:38] swiftness that they lock down
[00:44:40] investigation and want the media to move
[00:44:41] on because why would the media move on
[00:44:42] so quickly from someone trying to shoot
[00:44:44] president Donald Trump if it wasn't
[00:44:46] because we were going to find who was
[00:44:48] implicated was going to be the CIA and I
[00:44:49] also was stunned by absolutely how every
[00:44:51] network was covering that rally like
[00:44:54] every Network who hates Trump was there
[00:44:55] that day and was covering it and I think
[00:44:57] about that now when I think about these
[00:44:59] sort of mass psychosis that is supposed
[00:45:02] to come out of these events if
[00:45:03] everyone's watching and he speaking and
[00:45:05] then he gets shot on camera and then
[00:45:07] afterwards what they already had ready
[00:45:08] to go they said you know Iran did this
[00:45:10] do you remember this yeah what Thomas
[00:45:13] Crooks and Iran like I come on we
[00:45:15] received intelligence from Iran they
[00:45:17] were going to do it balone yes of course
[00:45:19] it's balone are you oh so this random
[00:45:21] kid was really hooked up with the Iran
[00:45:23] regime CIA propaganda absolutely and I'm
[00:45:26] thinking does anybody believe this
[00:45:27] nonsense that Iran had anything to do
[00:45:28] with this like this is the state trying
[00:45:30] to take out Donald Trump and I'm going
[00:45:32] please Trump do not accept that they are
[00:45:33] obviously have trained this kid and it's
[00:45:35] funny you remark on him being a brainiac
[00:45:38] because um a lot of these and I'm
[00:45:41] blanking on his name and maybe one of
[00:45:42] you guys can tell me the Connecticut
[00:45:44] shooting um the school shooting that was
[00:45:47] horrific um Adam Lanza was another one
[00:45:50] of these Brainiac kids and the FBI gave
[00:45:52] him a visit after he was able to hack
[00:45:54] into their computers when he was really
[00:45:56] young and they said well may work for
[00:45:57] you know the FBI one day and it's and I
[00:46:01] don't know if it's alleged or if the if
[00:46:02] I actually read this in a mainstream
[00:46:03] media article that he was visiting Gale
[00:46:05] often and we know like what what was he
[00:46:08] doing so you get to visit early on
[00:46:09] because he's a brainiac next thing you
[00:46:11] know and you can see in his eyes he
[00:46:12] looks drugged out of his mind absolutely
[00:46:15] and so these are the questions that I
[00:46:17] would have thought years ago was a
[00:46:18] conspiracy until I really learned about
[00:46:20] what the MK Ultra program was I mean
[00:46:22] we're talking even attempts to turn
[00:46:25] someone into a psychopath by sexually
[00:46:27] assaulting them when they're young
[00:46:28] sodomy all of these things our
[00:46:30] government did this yes they did they
[00:46:33] did uh they used sexual violence they
[00:46:35] used um torture putting him in Frozen
[00:46:37] rooms uh hanging them they used extreme
[00:46:40] amounts of LSD extreme amounts of
[00:46:43] electroshock and the the original idea
[00:46:45] was they were trying to to uh create
[00:46:48] assassins that would go kill somebody
[00:46:50] and then have no memory of the event
[00:46:52] suran San and also um John Lennon the
[00:46:56] night that he was shot CIA was there
[00:46:57] that night yeah and these normal average
[00:46:59] people uh successful many times
[00:47:02] intelligent people just go out and do
[00:47:04] these horrific things with no prior
[00:47:08] warning or indicators behaviorally at
[00:47:10] all uh and and then uh with Adam lansay
[00:47:14] you look in his eyes and some of these
[00:47:15] people's eyes and his brain was was on
[00:47:20] he'd been on something for a quite a
[00:47:22] while I mean that's pretty clear he was
[00:47:23] he'd been driven mentally insane and
[00:47:26] that's what Ultra was designed to do to
[00:47:28] to uh to train uh criminal Killers but
[00:47:31] that who would not remember what they
[00:47:32] did and to train couriers as mules who
[00:47:35] would Courier information over to
[00:47:37] intelligence agencies and then forget
[00:47:39] the information that they were just
[00:47:41] given also to do that um and then to do
[00:47:44] enhanced interrogations even way back
[00:47:46] then and the torture program was not
[00:47:48] just water boarding by the way uh but
[00:47:51] they to do uh enhanced interrogations
[00:47:53] back then and that's what Mk Ultra was
[00:47:55] all about from um uh Jolly West Lewis
[00:48:00] who was he was the chief of Psychiatry
[00:48:02] at
[00:48:03] UCLA and denied any involvement in MK
[00:48:06] Ultra which was developed by Dr Sydney
[00:48:08] gotle who was The Madman of the program
[00:48:12] and uh Jolly Lewis um J West he went by
[00:48:15] sometimes West claimed that he had no
[00:48:17] nothing to do with MK Ultra and and he
[00:48:20] would sue anybody that said that he did
[00:48:22] up until he died well Tom O'Neal did a
[00:48:25] superb investigation where he to UCLA
[00:48:28] and found his West's uh uh notes and
[00:48:31] records that UCA hadn't UCLA hadn't
[00:48:34] gotten gotten rid of yet and he went
[00:48:36] through there meticulously and he found
[00:48:37] correspondence between Dr Sydney gotle
[00:48:40] and uh West about MK Ultra and how they
[00:48:44] were going to try to hide it and try to
[00:48:45] move it out in the field and made that
[00:48:47] connection right there shocking part of
[00:48:49] the book yes and in in hate ashberry um
[00:48:53] Jolly Jolly West Lewis had his MK Ultra
[00:48:56] office right next to hate Ashbury clinic
[00:48:59] and they would refer people over and
[00:49:01] some of the people that O'Neal
[00:49:02] interviewed that were involved in he
[00:49:04] Asbury said oh yeah uh Manson and the
[00:49:06] girls came to see uh Mr West often all
[00:49:10] the time and then they go out and do
[00:49:12] this horrific murder uh that's beyond
[00:49:15] imagination uh come on uh I think he
[00:49:18] really hit on a a uh a big truth there
[00:49:22] no he did and that's why I say you have
[00:49:23] to read this book because it really you
[00:49:25] really have to confront how evil our
[00:49:26] government has been and therefore is
[00:49:29] because they have not sound like there
[00:49:30] was some Mia C but we did this and we're
[00:49:31] sorry they just keep these things up and
[00:49:33] they keep gaslighting us and they keep
[00:49:35] pretending that these people are oneoff
[00:49:37] Looney Tunes and then you realize that
[00:49:38] there is some connection with an MK
[00:49:40] Ultra program or the government had
[00:49:42] visited them or they were brainiacs you
[00:49:44] you really really have to understand
[00:49:46] what the MK Ultra program is and so it
[00:49:48] completely changes the way that I view
[00:49:50] all of these events because I don't view
[00:49:51] them as random at all it should I know
[00:49:53] that they want us to view it as random
[00:49:55] and I and it's so interesting to see as
[00:49:57] more and more things get exposed you
[00:49:59] know we have the Diddy case and all of
[00:50:01] the same elements are in everything
[00:50:03] drugs people not remembering things beds
[00:50:06] are somehow involved and the Diddy case
[00:50:08] are saying you know he had a number that
[00:50:10] he could call this was being alleged by
[00:50:13] the person who brought the lawsuit forth
[00:50:14] and really exploded things that the LAPD
[00:50:18] very similar to Charles Manson there was
[00:50:19] a person that was working for the Feds
[00:50:20] that could just make things disappear
[00:50:22] and they could rely on the media to lie
[00:50:24] about things that were happening
[00:50:25] shocking I'm going but not so shocking
[00:50:27] once you read realize this has been
[00:50:28] going on at least since the 60s oh yeah
[00:50:30] and so that also brings us into the
[00:50:33] Jeffrey Epstein thing I was about to
[00:50:35] mention this yeah so the Diddy the Diddy
[00:50:37] is kind of like the Hollywood of the
[00:50:38] Jeffrey Epstein which is something the
[00:50:40] media worked very hard to bury for a
[00:50:42] very long time and the most compelling
[00:50:45] part of the Jeffrey Epstein thing is how
[00:50:47] they just sort of released him uh and
[00:50:50] allowed him to live in his house at
[00:50:52] first and when questioned about this
[00:50:55] what's his name aosta aosta aosta said I
[00:50:58] was told as a judge he was intelligent
[00:51:01] that he was intelligent and that is the
[00:51:02] reason I could not prosecute him there
[00:51:04] was somebody above me who said I could
[00:51:06] not prose prosecute this asset that's
[00:51:09] right that's right what are we to make
[00:51:11] of that who what do you think about was
[00:51:14] a CI mad asset that was recruited and
[00:51:17] was doing a blackmail operation I think
[00:51:19] that's crystal clear no question about
[00:51:21] it so tends to be the party guy just
[00:51:24] like did he drugs
[00:51:26] drugs the CI as part of MK Ultra had
[00:51:29] operation climax or they were lure JN in
[00:51:31] with drugs and prostitutes and then this
[00:51:33] drunk CIA schmuck would sit on the
[00:51:36] opposite of a two-way mirror and take
[00:51:38] notes on what you know uh just evil
[00:51:40] wicked stuff and and that's what they're
[00:51:42] using Epstein for was blackmail
[00:51:44] operations and they got some pretty high
[00:51:46] level people snared into that and
[00:51:48] they're they haven't relased released
[00:51:50] the entire list of Epstein close Epstein
[00:51:54] confidants but uh um you know Israel's
[00:51:58] former prime minister was one of them um
[00:52:00] so uh which prime minister uh uh Baho uh
[00:52:05] trying to remember uh um you'll have to
[00:52:08] you'll have to check it I'm drawing the
[00:52:09] blank on his name boud something he got
[00:52:12] bar yes they got a picture of him
[00:52:13] visiting Epstein at his New York
[00:52:15] apartment and he was well-connected to
[00:52:17] Epstein but that was all in secret when
[00:52:18] that that is the intelligence part of
[00:52:21] mad and and of course they couldn't do
[00:52:23] that without coordinating with the CIA
[00:52:24] so the I asked this question now the the
[00:52:26] more I learn there just always seems to
[00:52:28] be this connection between the CIA and
[00:52:30] the mad and I'm going is it just no
[00:52:33] they're the same organization the more
[00:52:34] you look back into history and it's
[00:52:36] always somehow the CIA and the mad is
[00:52:39] there on the day that JFK gets shot we
[00:52:41] learn about like MLK we learn about 911
[00:52:44] and M going okay why does it seem like
[00:52:46] there's a union here a marriage here mad
[00:52:50] is like the sister of the CIA they're
[00:52:51] joined at the hip kind of like siamese
[00:52:53] twins and they use each other for Intel
[00:52:56] operations and things like that they are
[00:52:58] extremely close and an extremely
[00:53:01] sensitive relationship oh yeah wow and
[00:53:03] and this is totally explains what
[00:53:05] Epstein was doing and also galain
[00:53:07] Maxwell's Father Robert Maxwell when he
[00:53:09] died and didn't he die rather
[00:53:11] mysteriously I'm not sure uh he fell off
[00:53:13] he found dead off his yacht floating in
[00:53:16] the water they claimed it was a heart
[00:53:17] attack of course just when he was coming
[00:53:19] under scrutiny for arms dealing and
[00:53:21] connections with the CIA and being a mad
[00:53:24] agent actually a double agent with mad
[00:53:26] AGB all a sudden he's found dead
[00:53:28] floating next to his yacht you know and
[00:53:30] happens all the time oh yeah it's just
[00:53:32] yeah yeah just one of those things see
[00:53:34] what but a ton of Massad agents and I
[00:53:36] think a former prime minister of Israel
[00:53:37] attended his funeral so it's like guys
[00:53:39] hey maybe it's like you Lane it's very
[00:53:42] difficult that they find out the hard
[00:53:44] way to cover up the truth because it's
[00:53:45] going to leak out you know somewhere and
[00:53:47] it's good investigative journalists and
[00:53:49] people like yourself that look for those
[00:53:51] leaks and then start digging which is
[00:53:53] what we have to do because we're being
[00:53:54] lied to constantly our government has
[00:53:57] not changed uh since Pearl Harbor uh it
[00:54:00] is the same the CI is the same at the
[00:54:02] upper levels they're doing the same
[00:54:03] kinds of things I was an agent on
[00:54:05] William Casey's detail and one of my
[00:54:07] posts was in his house and uh just
[00:54:12] underneath where he was sleeping and we
[00:54:13] we'd have we were protecting him and
[00:54:14] ComEd had a price on his head so uh we
[00:54:17] were intimately next to William Casey
[00:54:19] there and in his office and when we were
[00:54:21] driving in the motor cave and none of us
[00:54:23] knew that Casey had done an operation to
[00:54:26] kill a suspected Imam by planting a Car
[00:54:29] Bomb outside the mosque and uh setting
[00:54:31] it on a timer well the Imam that they
[00:54:34] that they claimed was a terrorist came
[00:54:36] out near the car bomb but one of his
[00:54:38] patrons said asked him a question so the
[00:54:40] imom turned around to go back but the
[00:54:41] timer was already set bomb went off
[00:54:44] killed 64 women and girls at the girls
[00:54:46] school and it turns out it was the wrong
[00:54:49] Imam well Casey was doing that we we
[00:54:51] were living in his house we didn't know
[00:54:53] cuz we weren't up in that 20% that's
[00:54:54] what I'm talking about that's where the
[00:54:56] Ness is and when thank God Bobby
[00:54:58] Kennedy's in there now and I hope the
[00:55:00] Trump Administration now will start
[00:55:01] hacking away at that top 20% and in in
[00:55:04] Twilight of the Shadow government we
[00:55:06] call I call me and Ken for reform of the
[00:55:08] CIA and removal of that covert
[00:55:10] operational power that it has to conceal
[00:55:13] its what it's doing through secrecy I'll
[00:55:15] tell you one thing the last Kenedy that
[00:55:17] wanted to shatter the CIA did not live a
[00:55:20] tell about it they are they are in
[00:55:22] extreme danger not just in in the United
[00:55:25] United States but from Global Powers
[00:55:27] both both Donald Trump and Bobby Kennedy
[00:55:29] without question and it's I think it it
[00:55:31] really is waking up the masses to this
[00:55:33] so people understand this and don't
[00:55:34] think that these events are random that
[00:55:37] offers protection to them in many ways
[00:55:38] knowing that like that you're not going
[00:55:39] to run the same operation Mockingbird
[00:55:41] and try to tell us that a random person
[00:55:43] tried to shoot Donald Trump like we are
[00:55:45] going to speak about the truth and you
[00:55:47] always know when you really have a right
[00:55:49] to the truth because of the way the
[00:55:50] media attacks you and the way that I've
[00:55:52] seen the media once I started getting
[00:55:53] interested in this and the media
[00:55:55] attacking me oh got I'm banned from
[00:55:57] Australia like I've never committed a
[00:55:58] crime in my life how do you get banned
[00:56:00] from a country youve never committed a
[00:56:01] crime in your life like I'm on and I'm
[00:56:03] on the adl's list and I'm going okay
[00:56:05] it's because I'm telling the truth and
[00:56:06] when you start speaking real truth to
[00:56:08] power of course the mocking birds don't
[00:56:10] like it they are sent down to try to
[00:56:12] destroy intentionally especially you
[00:56:15] because you're coming out with the truth
[00:56:17] unvarnished and there's no question
[00:56:18] about that and of course they done the
[00:56:20] same thing with me conspiracy theorist
[00:56:22] Rogue CIA employee paranoid totally
[00:56:25] crazy we worked with them for years
[00:56:26] thought he was so intelligent that he
[00:56:28] was a part of the 2% but now he's a
[00:56:29] wacko yeah but now he's a rogue wacko
[00:56:31] you know you expect that and you know we
[00:56:33] should consider that a badge of honor I
[00:56:35] do and that's why look I even put it on
[00:56:37] like conspiracy theorist just on my I
[00:56:38] sell it I couldn't care less I'm like
[00:56:40] yep you got me I know that you created
[00:56:42] the term and we're going to go ahead and
[00:56:43] embrace that because we know exactly
[00:56:44] what you're up to okay so now we have to
[00:56:46] do this thing and I'm going to ask you
[00:56:48] and by the way this we're not reporting
[00:56:50] this to be fact But like after I spoke
[00:56:51] to Judge Joe Brown about MLK and he was
[00:56:53] he was the judge in the case and he was
[00:56:55] then being attacked by the they shot
[00:56:56] into his house 15 times crazy for him to
[00:56:59] be telling the background of that and he
[00:57:00] was like this is how they killed him the
[00:57:03] FBI killed him here's the gun they used
[00:57:04] they kept the guns it was incredible to
[00:57:06] hear him say it was on the show but now
[00:57:07] we're going to go back in time and I'm
[00:57:08] going to ask you who you think did each
[00:57:10] of these huge events okay mhm the
[00:57:13] killing of MLK Jr we are told that it
[00:57:16] was this random guy who happened to have
[00:57:19] a p a couple of extra passports on him
[00:57:21] that day yeah is he the murderer of MLK
[00:57:24] Jr no that was a CI operation
[00:57:26] because they considered him a dangerous
[00:57:28] communist and but the FBI was bugging
[00:57:31] the in churches where he was giving some
[00:57:33] of his speeches and churches they were
[00:57:35] bugging the podiums and following him
[00:57:37] around he was a top Target uh for
[00:57:40] elimination so uh and and what what the
[00:57:43] CIA does CIA spe specifically and
[00:57:45] sometimes the FBI there's always a
[00:57:47] boogeyman there's always one person well
[00:57:49] this person did Osama Bin Laden did it
[00:57:51] so let's move on we got him so it's over
[00:57:54] you know they always have one person
[00:57:57] that's that's their MO that's a
[00:57:58] scapegoat we got them the whole
[00:58:00] operation is over we solved it now
[00:58:02] forget about it and and that was the
[00:58:05] case with with Martin Luther King same
[00:58:07] Mo they Ed that same Mo over and over
[00:58:09] and over Timothy McVey he was the only
[00:58:11] one about that Timothy McVey yeah he was
[00:58:14] MK Ultra and there were other bombs in
[00:58:16] the building that that were reported
[00:58:18] initially and then deleted from the
[00:58:20] media coverage and on and on and on we
[00:58:22] go okay JFK we are told told that this
[00:58:27] guy just shot him and then another guy
[00:58:29] heroically shot the guy who shot the guy
[00:58:32] and then as you learn in the chaos book
[00:58:34] was visited by um Jolly West while he
[00:58:38] was in prison and then he was suddenly
[00:58:39] insane the next day when the judge saw
[00:58:41] him who was involved do you believe this
[00:58:43] the official storyline of how
[00:58:45] JFK was killed absolutely not uh for
[00:58:50] starters uh is have you read the book
[00:58:52] The Secret team by Fletcher proudy oh I
[00:58:54] would recommend that book to everybody
[00:58:55] Fletcher proud had high level access in
[00:58:58] Department of Defense and and CIA
[00:59:00] tickets but they forgot to get him to
[00:59:02] sign a non-disclosure agreement so when
[00:59:05] he saw all this how they played played
[00:59:07] all these things he came out and he
[00:59:08] wrote The Secret team and in the secret
[00:59:11] team is his witness account of the JFK
[00:59:14] assassination and there was a a
[00:59:16] well-known CIA operator from Vietnam up
[00:59:19] until that point named Edward Lansdale
[00:59:22] and there's a photograph of of the three
[00:59:25] mysterious men being walked by the
[00:59:27] sheriff in front of the The Book
[00:59:29] Depository and walking by them as one of
[00:59:32] them smiled was Edward Lansdale
[00:59:34] well-known CI operative and proud he
[00:59:37] proud he worked with him he knew him he
[00:59:39] knew what he looked from behind he knew
[00:59:40] about the ring on his finger and he
[00:59:42] identified Lansdale as a CI operative uh
[00:59:45] George Bush made this mysterious phone
[00:59:47] call that day claiming that he was in he
[00:59:49] was in Dallas now George HW Bush
[00:59:52] longtime CI operative although he tried
[00:59:54] to tried to deny he all the way go going
[00:59:57] all the way back to Cuban Missile Crisis
[00:59:58] he was a CI operative when he was
[01:00:00] president CI in the White House AKA Iran
[01:00:04] coner and then they promoted him uh so
[01:00:07] uh Edward Lansdale was there um there's
[01:00:09] no question about that bush called in
[01:00:11] and said I think something may happen
[01:00:13] today and I don't know I just wanted to
[01:00:14] warn you about it I'm in Wisconsin or
[01:00:17] wherever he said he was he was in Dallas
[01:00:18] Texas and phoning in a fake phone call
[01:00:21] that day um Oswald without question had
[01:00:24] been recruited by the CIA sent over
[01:00:26] Russia as to try to be a double agent
[01:00:28] then came back uh uh was he the only
[01:00:31] shooter absolutely not that c CI was
[01:00:34] then working with the mafia and and gfk
[01:00:37] had had fired Al Allan Dulles the devil
[01:00:40] incarnate as we've called him uh and
[01:00:43] Allan Dulles he fired alen dullas so
[01:00:44] Alan Dulles was having secret meetings
[01:00:46] with other CI officials that were now
[01:00:48] out of there how to get rid of JFK
[01:00:52] because he was his arch enemy he fired
[01:00:53] him this guy was a p power hungry
[01:00:55] director
[01:00:56] so they were having meetings on how to
[01:00:57] get rid of gfk JFK rather and so when uh
[01:01:00] the murder happened and the Waring
[01:01:03] commission was put together guess who
[01:01:04] was in charge of the Warren Commission
[01:01:06] Alan Dulles Alan Dulles who coached all
[01:01:09] the CI Witnesses what to say what not to
[01:01:11] say and forbade some of the others from
[01:01:13] even testifying at all they put the fox
[01:01:16] in charge of the hen house uh I mean
[01:01:20] come on and then the questions they
[01:01:21] asked as you know were just absolutely
[01:01:23] ridiculous so yeah I think that was a CI
[01:01:26] hit and they may have employed some
[01:01:28] Mafia connections to carry it out
[01:01:29] because that was their Mafia
[01:01:30] assassination progr exactly and LBJ was
[01:01:32] very involved in all that in Dallas and
[01:01:34] soil he was an evil man I I believe he
[01:01:36] knew that he was going to get shot
[01:01:37] because they wanted him in the position
[01:01:38] because they wanted to go to war every
[01:01:40] single time when they when they decided
[01:01:41] they want War and what did LBJ do Henry
[01:01:44] Kissinger that they just went to town
[01:01:46] Vietnam uh went to town in Cambodia I
[01:01:49] mean they just they just didn't
[01:01:50] stop the murder of Americans not
[01:01:53] realizing that this is how things work
[01:01:55] okay about Pearl Harbor Pearl Harbor uh
[01:01:58] Admiral Ace Lions I don't know if you've
[01:02:00] heard of Admiral Ace Lions I had a a uh
[01:02:02] radio progam program called the
[01:02:04] intelligence hour several years ago and
[01:02:06] Ace had become a friend of mine because
[01:02:07] we were working on exposing Benghazi and
[01:02:10] Ace Lions was commander of the Pacific
[01:02:12] Fleet back during that time and I asked
[01:02:16] Ace Lions about Pearl Harbor and he goes
[01:02:18] I am still angry to this day and I said
[01:02:21] why he goes because they knew the attack
[01:02:24] was coming was coming they knew
[01:02:26] where it was going to happen to Pearl
[01:02:27] Harbor and when and they they told no
[01:02:30] one and they let it happen on purpose
[01:02:32] that that's from the commander of the
[01:02:34] Pacific Fleet I would say that's a
[01:02:36] pretty pretty credible witness so yeah
[01:02:38] that that was a false they admitted that
[01:02:40] they admitted they had the they heard it
[01:02:41] was going to happen and you know how
[01:02:43] else were you going to get Americans to
[01:02:44] be on the side of this war that had
[01:02:45] nothing to do with us you know ex
[01:02:47] exactly and it's that thato is repeated
[01:02:49] on and on and on and on and up up
[01:02:51] through Iraq where the Pentagon even had
[01:02:53] the Pentagon analyst program and they
[01:02:56] were going on Fox News and all these
[01:02:57] generals that were recruited in this in
[01:02:59] this propaganda effort going on pushing
[01:03:02] the Iraq War you remember on Fox News
[01:03:04] and others they're these generals on
[01:03:06] promoting that was a propaganda
[01:03:08] operation by the Department of Defense
[01:03:10] called The Pentagon analist program so
[01:03:12] uh this is why you have to learn about
[01:03:13] Sigman Freud and then behind him Edward
[01:03:15] bernes and learn about the World War II
[01:03:17] propaganda make people every day just
[01:03:19] see Germans as the enemy enemy enemy
[01:03:21] then we have this big event happen and
[01:03:23] the boys sign up and they go to war and
[01:03:25] they get killed and it's it is it is the
[01:03:27] exact same thing every time you know
[01:03:29] remarkable intelligence failure now
[01:03:30] we're being dropped in because we have a
[01:03:32] right to defend ourselves it we must get
[01:03:34] involved now with this war that has
[01:03:35] nothing to do with us and now we're in
[01:03:36] the Middle East which is nowhere near us
[01:03:38] but we're and so which brings us to 911
[01:03:41] your opinion my opinion as a criminal
[01:03:44] investigator as a former CI officer uh
[01:03:47] 911 was not the act of a bunch of uh
[01:03:50] poorly flight trained terrorists that
[01:03:53] executed an unbelievably meticulous
[01:03:56] uh um piloting of those aircraft even
[01:03:59] even Pilots there's Pilots for 911 truth
[01:04:01] now and they say we could not have done
[01:04:02] that experience Pilots could not have
[01:04:04] made those Maneuvers not possible uh and
[01:04:07] then we go to the passport issue and we
[01:04:09] go to the tower 7 which was a control
[01:04:11] demolition obv you talk to any
[01:04:13] structural engineer and and and I I have
[01:04:16] well that was a controlled demolition I
[01:04:17] mean it was perfect um and then uh you
[01:04:22] look at the facts that just don't add up
[01:04:24] and the facts that were left out of the
[01:04:26] 9911 commission report and then the
[01:04:28] ridiculous claims they made the lack of
[01:04:30] airport a air airplane Parts excuse me
[01:04:34] no landing gear no no engines which we
[01:04:36] talked about so all of that put together
[01:04:39] and the fact I think George W bush
[01:04:41] blacked out I think it was 40 pages of
[01:04:43] the 911 report dealing with Saudi Arabia
[01:04:46] and the report came out the 911
[01:04:48] Commission report came out but those
[01:04:51] pages were blacked out and he refused to
[01:04:53] unreact them so what wait a minute this
[01:04:56] report was supposed to be for the
[01:04:57] American people on what happened and you
[01:04:59] blacked all these Pages out what in the
[01:05:02] world I do not think that it was a bunch
[01:05:04] of un poorly trained or untrained
[01:05:07] terrorists that did it I think there was
[01:05:08] another source behind it I think it was
[01:05:10] intentional and I'm going just from a a
[01:05:12] criminal invest investigative
[01:05:14] perspective just looking at the evidence
[01:05:17] what evidence we have uh that that was
[01:05:19] an intentional act and it would fall
[01:05:21] right into Theo that you and I are
[01:05:23] talking about horrible event because
[01:05:25] human life does not matter to the shadow
[01:05:27] government deep state or especially the
[01:05:29] CIA it does not matter their pawns on
[01:05:32] their chessboard they don't care that
[01:05:34] 3,000 people were horribly killed that
[01:05:36] day but it achieved the aim of gutting
[01:05:38] the US Constitution bringing in the
[01:05:40] horrific Patriot Act giving the CIA
[01:05:43] Unthinkable Authority for secret prison
[01:05:46] prisons and torture Beyond water
[01:05:48] boarding and and uh uh secret Renditions
[01:05:51] and all of that the FBI the ability to
[01:05:54] to uh spy on Americans came out of the
[01:05:57] Patriot Act so it was the perfect
[01:05:59] National Security State uh um Energizer
[01:06:02] that the Patriot Act was and 70 of the
[01:06:04] congressman and Senators that read the
[01:06:06] Patriot Act didn't even read it they
[01:06:08] just signed off on it without even
[01:06:09] reading the bill so yeah I mean that's
[01:06:13] my view and just as well just factually
[01:06:15] the economy has been a major burden on
[01:06:17] the average American wages are flat
[01:06:19] expenses are up and it is very hard to
[01:06:21] manage to pay all the bills without
[01:06:22] using credit cards if you're a homeowner
[01:06:24] and you're frustrated with that cycle I
[01:06:25] need you to make a 10-minute no
[01:06:26] obligation phone call today to my
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[01:06:30] rates are finally coming down if you're
[01:06:32] constantly carrying a credit card
[01:06:33] balance each and every month with a rate
[01:06:34] in the 20s American financing can show
[01:06:37] you how to put your hard-earned Equity
[01:06:38] to work and get you out of debt their
[01:06:40] salary based mortgage consultants are
[01:06:42] saving their customers an average of
[01:06:43] $800 a month and if you get started
[01:06:45] today you may not even have to make next
[01:06:47] month's mortgage payment so call today
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[01:06:57] ens again that's American financing.net
[01:07:00] ens yeah I mean you look at these things
[01:07:02] and you go backwards and and you like I
[01:07:04] said it just follows that same emo every
[01:07:05] single time horrific event and then
[01:07:07] yelling at everybody don't even ask any
[01:07:09] questions of what we do next if you do
[01:07:11] you're a terrorist sympathizer you know
[01:07:13] like you all you care about is defending
[01:07:15] the terrorist in the Middle East you
[01:07:16] don't care about your safety and there I
[01:07:18] think there was just one lone
[01:07:19] congressman who said we absolutely
[01:07:20] should not be signing the Patriot Act
[01:07:22] and you know the media came down on him
[01:07:24] very hard could
[01:07:29] havep
[01:07:32] usil that it's just just an evil
[01:07:34] government that is willing to kill
[01:07:35] people to further its imperialistic aims
[01:07:38] whatever that may be whether it's they
[01:07:39] want oil whether they want more land and
[01:07:42] so I'm hopeful that people wake up to
[01:07:43] this because now that I am very aware of
[01:07:45] this pattern now that I have confronted
[01:07:47] the evil of our government I am deeply
[01:07:49] fearful as you said for Kennedy and
[01:07:52] Trump and recognizing that if you're
[01:07:54] talking about coming up against the
[01:07:55] State the Deep state is is quite the
[01:07:57] enemy to come up against because they
[01:07:59] have killed presidents in my view and
[01:08:01] they they will kill as many Americans as
[01:08:03] it takes to retain their power uh and I
[01:08:05] I think we have the right team to do it
[01:08:07] I think even having it be Kennedy with
[01:08:09] the history of the kennedies and Trump
[01:08:12] and his ability to just keep going REM
[01:08:14] it is remarkable that we we really do
[01:08:16] have this chance and at the same time
[01:08:18] people waking up to what the mainstream
[01:08:19] media is so operation mocking is failing
[01:08:21] yes which for the first time it doesn't
[01:08:23] work anymore so they can keep that
[01:08:24] operation going it's good it's good for
[01:08:26] bus for me that's right it is it is I
[01:08:29] mean it's so encouraging yeah it is it's
[01:08:31] very encouraging and so now you can hear
[01:08:32] them starting to have the conversation
[01:08:34] of we've got to get a handle on these
[01:08:36] podcasters with their misinformation and
[01:08:38] let go ahead make our day make our day
[01:08:41] because the people are awake okay give
[01:08:44] everybody the name of your book and
[01:08:46] where exactly they can find it guys this
[01:08:48] is a must read you absolutely must read
[01:08:49] this book it it's called Twilight of the
[01:08:52] Shadow government how transparency will
[01:08:54] kill the Deep state
[01:08:55] I wrote it at some risk because the CI
[01:08:58] blacked out redacted information in my
[01:09:00] last book from the company Shadows that
[01:09:01] was unclassified violation of executive
[01:09:04] order 12356 it's a felony and so I knew
[01:09:07] that in this book they were going to
[01:09:09] either redact the majority of the
[01:09:10] revelations that that we write about or
[01:09:13] sit on it for a couple of years so I
[01:09:16] gave it to the CIA and let them have it
[01:09:17] for three months there's an old law that
[01:09:19] said they have to get it back to you in
[01:09:20] 30 days they'd never abide by that based
[01:09:23] on constitutional freedom of speech but
[01:09:25] never AB by that so I let them sit on up
[01:09:27] for three months and after three months
[01:09:29] Kent hecken LLY my courageous
[01:09:32] co-writer uh we said all right I they
[01:09:36] asked me for approval can we send it to
[01:09:37] the public publisher and I said do it so
[01:09:40] we sent it to Sky hor and published it
[01:09:42] before the CIA approved it and it's the
[01:09:43] only way I could get this out I took
[01:09:46] some personal risk which I'm glad to do
[01:09:49] because it's so important we don't know
[01:09:51] what the CI is going to do whether
[01:09:52] they're going to try to take my
[01:09:53] royalties from the book which they
[01:09:55] usually try to do I mean I I've already
[01:09:57] been threatened poisoned broken into
[01:09:58] it's like whatever you know uh but
[01:10:01] someone had to take the risk to do that
[01:10:03] finally to expose what the CIA is where
[01:10:06] can people go to support you aside from
[01:10:07] buying the book like is there anywhere
[01:10:09] people can go to Just support you in
[01:10:10] general because I just think that when
[01:10:11] you see someone like this who's actually
[01:10:13] actually it's funny that you say sky
[01:10:14] horse published it because when my
[01:10:16] publish when uh my producer first said
[01:10:18] you want to get this guy on I instantly
[01:10:20] went okay is this going to be a limited
[01:10:21] hangout limited hangout is when like you
[01:10:22] know what I'm talking about the CIA
[01:10:24] allows people in the
[01:10:27] sawy Wasing said no this that they like
[01:10:30] the Publishers will not his book and he
[01:10:33] to go to a more independent type of
[01:10:35] publisher because I'm dealing with that
[01:10:36] same thing they won't they're not I'm
[01:10:37] not allowed to publish my book anywhere
[01:10:38] even though I had a New York Times top
[01:10:40] selling first book they basically go oh
[01:10:42] no no no no this girl can't be published
[01:10:44] anymore so when I saw that I said no
[01:10:45] this guy's the real deal they're
[01:10:46] obviously closing doors on him
[01:10:48] intentionally and I violated my NDA and
[01:10:50] no see officers have done that we got to
[01:10:51] support you and we got to make sure
[01:10:53] people know your name know what you're
[01:10:54] doing so anything shady happens to this
[01:10:57] guy we all know who did it but where can
[01:10:58] people just go to support you in general
[01:11:00] well there's my YouTube channel Kevin
[01:11:03] ship one and and most of my videos there
[01:11:05] are free I'm on Twitter now X it's Kevin
[01:11:09] ship and I post things about this
[01:11:11] regularly uh or they can find me through
[01:11:14] skyhorse um uh and the the book Twilight
[01:11:17] of the shadow of government is a mission
[01:11:18] for me I don't know if I'm going to be
[01:11:20] able to keep my royalties I have some if
[01:11:22] not please start a go not a GoFundMe
[01:11:24] give send go yeah and the Christian
[01:11:26] company give s go and we will support
[01:11:28] you because we are I'm like you know we
[01:11:31] are and it's it's just funny that you're
[01:11:33] Christian because I have just felt this
[01:11:35] is the Christ is King year and Christ is
[01:11:37] is truth the way you you must just
[01:11:40] follow the truth and be willing to face
[01:11:41] the consequences I have done that this
[01:11:43] year and it's just funny to hear your
[01:11:46] background story oh my life got saved
[01:11:48] because people were praying over me I
[01:11:49] left the CIA because a woman randomly
[01:11:51] said do you know about Jesus Christ and
[01:11:53] here you are and you realize why they
[01:11:56] why why you were saved when you were
[01:11:57] young yes why you were chosen to go
[01:11:59] through CIA you weren't chosen by the
[01:12:01] CIA I believe you chosen by the Lord to
[01:12:02] do that and because he wanted you to see
[01:12:05] it upfront so that you could have you
[01:12:06] know the you would be able to speak to
[01:12:08] the public about what we are actually
[01:12:10] confronting and you have survived the
[01:12:11] poison I mean you've got like a lot of
[01:12:13] lives going on here cat yeah and so in
[01:12:17] every capacity that we can support
[01:12:18] people like this you guys I am like
[01:12:20] we've got to do it this is what the
[01:12:22] people that are just trying to tell the
[01:12:24] truth so if you do start s go if they
[01:12:25] try to take your royalties please email
[01:12:27] us we will be the first people to be
[01:12:29] like and that's what I've done I've been
[01:12:31] I'm knocked off of uh YouTube I can't
[01:12:33] make any money on YouTube and so we turn
[01:12:35] to locals and people $1 a month $ month
[01:12:39] the people are doing this we exist
[01:12:41] because of the people it's the best way
[01:12:42] I don't care about the Publishers I
[01:12:44] don't care about any of that stuff
[01:12:45] because the only way to do it we are
[01:12:46] creating a network of people that know
[01:12:48] that Christ is King and that the truth
[01:12:49] wins in the end and uh we just have to
[01:12:52] keep going my wife Sue has set up a
[01:12:54] GoFundMe page so we'll see what happens
[01:12:56] go to give send go please okay I'll do
[01:12:58] that tell her to go to give send go and
[01:13:00] if you send it to us we will um tell
[01:13:02] people to support you guys and they will
[01:13:04] trust me my audience they're hardcore
[01:13:05] awesome they don't care what the media
[01:13:07] says they actually like it like I said
[01:13:08] if the media calls you a conspiracy
[01:13:10] theorist they're like we can trust
[01:13:12] them and we you know they probably will
[01:13:14] come after my royalties I we I know that
[01:13:16] in advance whether they're going to try
[01:13:18] to say there's something classified in
[01:13:20] this book let's get him for that well I
[01:13:21] was a classifying Authority I know
[01:13:22] what's classified and what's not uh they
[01:13:25] can try to make that accusation I don't
[01:13:27] think they will because uh there is the
[01:13:30] possibility they don't want publicity
[01:13:32] for this book because no CI officer has
[01:13:34] ever done this before and it does not
[01:13:36] make them look good so we'll see we'll
[01:13:38] see what happens ladies and gentlemen we
[01:13:40] are going to include the link to his
[01:13:42] book below we're going to hope and pray
[01:13:43] that the they don't take his royalties
[01:13:45] but if they do who cares because we are
[01:13:47] we are bigger than the CIA we are that
[01:13:49] is the reality there's more of us than
[01:13:51] there are of them and hopefully there
[01:13:52] are some CIA agents watching this that
[01:13:54] are getting the clue here like you know
[01:13:55] you're working for people that don't
[01:13:56] really care about you so why don't you
[01:13:58] join join the people join the freedom
[01:14:00] join the truth movement Kevin I cannot
[01:14:02] tell you it has been such an honor to
[01:14:04] have you like these are the
[01:14:06] conversations that just enrich me enrich
[01:14:08] my audience help us to learn and grow
[01:14:10] and remind people that the truth team is
[01:14:14] winning right I really do believe yeah
[01:14:17] yeah than for much
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