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[00:00:00] So, real quick, I want to go over a
[00:00:03] little bit of footage from the day of
[00:00:05] the event because a lot of what I was
[00:00:07] coming here to look at was this one
[00:00:09] specific thing on the roof that I have
[00:00:11] questions about. And so, I drove like
[00:00:14] 2,200 miles to answer those questions. I
[00:00:16] was over in New York City hanging out
[00:00:19] with my buddies um chilling when it
[00:00:22] occurred to me that if I don't drive to
[00:00:24] Utah now to see the scene, it's going to
[00:00:26] be gone and I should probably just drive
[00:00:28] all the way there. and Gigi and I should
[00:00:30] just check it out for ourselves. Um, and
[00:00:33] so we drove all the way across the
[00:00:35] country and here we are. And a lot of it
[00:00:37] was specifically to check out this one
[00:00:39] specific thing. Um, and I'm actually
[00:00:42] going to increase the size of our screen
[00:00:44] share on screen here so that it's nice
[00:00:47] and easy to see.
[00:00:50] So,
[00:00:56] I had noticed in the footage of the
[00:00:58] event that there's kind of a little
[00:00:59] bloop on top of this roof. And from this
[00:01:01] far around angle, it's not that obvious.
[00:01:04] And then when homeboy, this YouTube
[00:01:07] account called Life is Driving was doing
[00:01:09] interviews. They were live streaming the
[00:01:11] whole time. It's some of the best
[00:01:12] footage that we have of the day of the
[00:01:14] event. And in the footage, it was pretty
[00:01:17] easy to see this little thing
[00:01:22] up on the roof. This is all in fast
[00:01:24] motion.
[00:01:27] And I just kind of sped through all the
[00:01:29] interviews he was doing. And then the
[00:01:30] shot happens.
[00:01:36] >> And I noticed in the original footage
[00:01:37] that after the shot happens, the first
[00:01:39] time that you get to see the roof again,
[00:01:41] the thing is not there anymore.
[00:01:44] And then you get a better view. And the
[00:01:46] thing is definitely not there anymore.
[00:01:48] The little bloop that was there, it's
[00:01:49] not there. So is that like a weird angle
[00:01:52] thing? Because before it was super
[00:01:55] obviously there, right?
[00:01:59] And it looks like a maybe it's just a
[00:02:00] smoke stack, like a little like, you
[00:02:01] know, exhaust vent or something like
[00:02:03] that. It's not like it's necessarily
[00:02:05] even looks like a shooter. I was also
[00:02:07] looking at the deck to see what's going
[00:02:09] on there.
[00:02:11] But it is obvious that
[00:02:14] after the shot, whatever it was doesn't
[00:02:16] appear to be there anymore. And so, is
[00:02:18] it by changing angles or getting closer?
[00:02:21] Did it just go out of sight because of
[00:02:23] the angle of the roof? That was one of
[00:02:26] my biggest questions, my own personal
[00:02:27] question about the scene
[00:02:30] that I wanted to answer. And I have some
[00:02:32] answers and some more questions. Um,
[00:02:34] that being said, there's also a lot of
[00:02:36] other theories that are floating around
[00:02:37] that I wanted to kind of check on and
[00:02:39] see what happened. Um, Chris Martinson
[00:02:41] put out a really great video the other
[00:02:43] day analyzing the ballistics and
[00:02:45] positing maybe another rooftop that we
[00:02:47] should be examining and I have details
[00:02:49] on that rooftop that Chris Martinson was
[00:02:51] curious about um that I think are pretty
[00:02:54] clear and uh a lot of people are looking
[00:02:56] at side angle shots and I don't have
[00:02:58] anything clear on that but I've got a
[00:03:01] lot of footage that adds more questions.
[00:03:04] So,
[00:03:06] I traced the shooter's path and wandered
[00:03:08] in.
[00:03:10] Same way.
[00:03:12] Um, and you know, there's nothing really
[00:03:14] like crazy about the route in. It is
[00:03:16] what it is. We've all seen it. Um, I did
[00:03:19] have questions about this point in the
[00:03:22] route where the shooter went through the
[00:03:25] tunnel and got caught on camera. And if
[00:03:28] anyone has been wondering why the
[00:03:30] shooter turned and went through this
[00:03:32] tunnel where there are cameras, I was
[00:03:34] starting to suspect maybe like maybe the
[00:03:37] shooter went through the tunnel on
[00:03:38] purpose or not the shooter. Like maybe
[00:03:39] this guy walked in front of those
[00:03:41] cameras on purpose to leave an
[00:03:43] intentional trail to for the feds to get
[00:03:45] right. Like why go through the the
[00:03:48] camera tunnel when you could just walk
[00:03:49] across the street? And then I I got here
[00:03:52] and I learned that actually there's a
[00:03:53] fence across the end of the street
[00:03:55] >> straight down the road where we're going
[00:03:57] to turn left to get up to Lassi. We turn
[00:04:00] >> cuz the shooter turns right here
[00:04:01] >> this parking lot
[00:04:03] >> which is like directly off course like
[00:04:05] you're walking straight down a road into
[00:04:06] campus and then you turn hard right away
[00:04:08] from your destination just so you can go
[00:04:10] down through this tunnel. That seemed
[00:04:12] very suspicious to me. And but part of
[00:04:16] the reason why we go and look at things
[00:04:19] in person on the scene is cuz I got here
[00:04:22] now getting on to UVU property.
[00:04:32] Okay.
[00:04:32] >> And then it just dawned on me.
[00:04:35] >> So there's a fence up blocking that road
[00:04:39] from going through. So maybe that fence
[00:04:41] was there and maybe that's why he had to
[00:04:43] come down into the tunnel.
[00:04:45] The fence ends right there at right by
[00:04:48] those trees and it extends
[00:04:52] up to the edge of the bushes up right
[00:04:55] there. So maybe that's a good excuse to
[00:04:57] come down into this tunnel because the
[00:04:59] tunnel has security camera. Okay. So
[00:05:04] much later in that day,
[00:05:07] um
[00:05:09] where would it be? right here. I came
[00:05:11] back and examined that fence from the
[00:05:12] other side and it's pretty clear.
[00:05:14] >> This fence is not new. It's old from the
[00:05:17] way the grass has grown into it and the
[00:05:19] way there's a little stoner trail right
[00:05:22] beside it of people walking around it.
[00:05:25] So clearly this fence
[00:05:28] has been here and that's why you had to
[00:05:30] go down into the tunnel. So, little
[00:05:33] things like that that seem suspicious at
[00:05:36] first until you're there and you
[00:05:38] suddenly you there are explanations for
[00:05:40] some things, right? That fence was
[00:05:42] clearly there the day of, so we had to
[00:05:43] go down through the tunnel. Um, I went
[00:05:45] on a Sunday and everything was closed
[00:05:48] up, so the building that Tyler walked
[00:05:50] through to get up to the position was
[00:05:51] locked. There's cops everywhere there
[00:05:53] now. Um, which is cool.
[00:05:56] And I met one, hung out with him for a
[00:05:58] second. um tried to give me a little
[00:06:01] tour and I was like, "No, bro. I'm not
[00:06:03] really having it." And so, let's get on
[00:06:06] to
[00:06:08] some of these first questions. The side
[00:06:10] of the Liy Center
[00:06:12] [Music]
[00:06:14] and
[00:06:17] I'm not sure if that
[00:06:21] I can see the top of Sorenson super
[00:06:23] clear. So this is a theory that Chris
[00:06:27] Martinson posited that maybe
[00:06:31] the angle from the top of Sorenson
[00:06:34] would make more sense for the shot that
[00:06:35] came in.
[00:06:39] I don't I don't feel like if you're a
[00:06:42] professional, I don't feel like you plan
[00:06:45] to be on a rooftop out here. There's too
[00:06:47] many. The level The thing is the levels
[00:06:50] make it so there's lots of shots, but
[00:06:52] they make it so that all the shooting
[00:06:54] positions are visibly like super out in
[00:06:56] the open to basically everybody.
[00:07:00] Um, especially on a day when there's
[00:07:02] people all over the place swarming. That
[00:07:06] seems like a horrible idea.
[00:07:09] So, we're coming up on the other side
[00:07:13] where he came through the building and
[00:07:15] it's locked up today.
[00:07:18] So,
[00:07:20] another rooftop.
[00:07:21] >> So, one thing that is more clear being
[00:07:23] here um rather than on footage and on
[00:07:26] Google Maps is it's super weird that
[00:07:30] there was someone on top of the Woodbury
[00:07:32] building apparently in the footage
[00:07:34] because when you look at the Woodbury
[00:07:37] building,
[00:07:38] >> do you guys not have audio from my
[00:07:39] video?
[00:07:48] So, one thing that is more clear being
[00:07:50] here. Um,
[00:07:54] and so with no way to get up easily and
[00:07:58] no way to hide, like I presume that some
[00:08:00] of the windows open. I presume that roof
[00:08:03] access is gained through like the little
[00:08:05] opening of the windows.
[00:08:08] How's that audio, guys? Very low audio.
[00:08:11] So, what I'm explaining here, here's
[00:08:13] what I'll do is I'll I'll mute it and
[00:08:15] I'll just talk to you
[00:08:19] um
[00:08:24] is
[00:08:26] there's all these levels in this campus
[00:08:29] and kids were like walking down this
[00:08:31] stairway behind me on the way to go see
[00:08:34] and you can see the whole top of a lot
[00:08:36] of these rooftops
[00:08:38] like the Woodbury building where we had
[00:08:41] footage that had someone on top of that
[00:08:42] building.
[00:08:44] You can see the whole rooftop from here.
[00:08:47] You can see down onto the rooftop and
[00:08:49] there's no visible access to the rooftop
[00:08:52] at all. And so the very fact that
[00:08:54] there's even like kind of a person up
[00:08:57] there at all on the day of, like I
[00:08:59] almost am questioning whether that
[00:09:00] really was a person in the footage now
[00:09:02] because it would be so visibly obvious
[00:09:05] um to all kinds of people coming down
[00:09:08] from this upper level to come and see
[00:09:10] Charlie that it just is really weird um
[00:09:14] once you're there. So there's this thing
[00:09:16] that footage makes it all look like
[00:09:18] you're so far away. It makes everything
[00:09:20] look really because footage compresses
[00:09:23] everything. The angles of like the
[00:09:24] lenses do weird distortion, but like
[00:09:27] that's right in front of you when you're
[00:09:29] on campus. That is not far. That's like
[00:09:31] if your buddy was up there on that roof,
[00:09:33] you could just have a regular
[00:09:34] conversation with them. You wouldn't
[00:09:35] even need to shout. You could throw a
[00:09:37] tennis ball back and forth with them.
[00:09:39] It's not far away. And it's really easy
[00:09:41] to see it all in person when you're
[00:09:43] there. And so it makes it a lot more
[00:09:44] obvious that like that would it just
[00:09:50] doesn't track. It doesn't track.
[00:09:53] Um
[00:09:55] let me
[00:10:00] um let me see if I can add some uh this
[00:10:04] audio source real quick.
[00:10:11] No, it's not that.
[00:10:24] [Music]
[00:10:29] Uh, there we can go. There we go. Now, I
[00:10:33] think check this out.
[00:10:36] Let me know how this audio is now.
[00:10:38] building, spotting anything, we would
[00:10:40] like you'd be able to see them right
[00:10:42] away. There would be no no value to
[00:10:45] that.
[00:10:50] Now there's audio.
[00:10:51] >> So now for the infamous Bushman
[00:10:53] theories.
[00:10:57] >> Okay, Bush Man.
[00:11:06] So again, Chris Martinson was looking at
[00:11:09] this roof based upon the angle of the
[00:11:10] shot, the ballistics, the trajectory. He
[00:11:12] was looking at the roof of this Sorenson
[00:11:14] center here where the trees kind of
[00:11:15] obscure it. And from down in the
[00:11:16] courtyard, from looking up at the shot,
[00:11:18] it makes some sense. But from up above,
[00:11:21] it's a total nogo. It's a white roof
[00:11:23] with no cover on it, and you can see the
[00:11:25] entire rooftop surface. From places that
[00:11:29] were full of people, um, which is why
[00:11:31] it's like, all right, on the ground that
[00:11:32] makes less sense.
[00:11:35] This is what it looks like right now.
[00:11:38] And the balcony is right there.
[00:11:42] It is. It looks far away in this
[00:11:45] footage. It is right there. It is super
[00:11:47] clear. I can make out individual leaves
[00:11:50] on that bush when I'm standing there. I
[00:11:52] can clearly see the table and chairs.
[00:11:54] There is like no chance that there was
[00:11:56] someone on that balcony. And
[00:11:58] furthermore,
[00:12:00] this is the entrance to that balcony.
[00:12:07] Interesting.
[00:12:09] So, the stairs up to that balcony are
[00:12:14] behind a gated door that's always access
[00:12:18] controlled.
[00:12:21] That's interesting.
[00:12:24] So, there wouldn't be any way to even
[00:12:26] get like this is like a keycoded lock on
[00:12:31] this door. So maybe someone was on the
[00:12:33] balcony, but it seems relatively
[00:12:34] unlikely once you look at what the
[00:12:36] balcony access looks like, as well as
[00:12:41] like how visible it is to everybody
[00:12:43] else. I did a lot of looking at the
[00:12:45] walls, the windows, looking for cameras.
[00:12:48] >> I can see there's a camera
[00:12:50] >> there on that wall, too.
[00:12:58] Another question that I've had this
[00:13:00] whole time is what are up with these
[00:13:01] vents? Are these closed vents? Are there
[00:13:04] slats in them? Is this possibly a crawl
[00:13:06] space that people could be in um
[00:13:09] shooting out of?
[00:13:12] And the answer is no. Not really.
[00:13:19] Um let me see if I can just zoom this in
[00:13:22] for you guys. Do I get any closer to
[00:13:24] them? Yeah, I peeped them a little
[00:13:26] tighter.
[00:13:28] So,
[00:13:32] I'm gonna zoom us in here.
[00:13:36] These vents
[00:13:38] are clearly like there's cobwebs on
[00:13:40] them. They're like they're rusted and
[00:13:42] kind of dirted into place. These vents
[00:13:44] these uh screens have clearly not been
[00:13:48] removed. They're clearly are solid and
[00:13:50] stable and in place. So to me and I I
[00:13:54] looked at each one of them
[00:13:56] >> and then
[00:13:57] >> individually
[00:13:57] >> heavy screen in front of them.
[00:14:02] >> I think we can put any theories about
[00:14:03] things like honestly there's some
[00:14:05] footage of like a kind of droney looking
[00:14:07] thing flying out of one of those and
[00:14:08] that makes no sense because those things
[00:14:10] are not open and there's no way to open
[00:14:13] them. So I I don't know what to make of
[00:14:15] that. It's all uh cobwebby and rusted
[00:14:20] and clearly it's not gone anywhere.
[00:14:25] The person that people are saying was at
[00:14:26] the stairwell, no line of sight. You'd
[00:14:29] have to be right up.
[00:14:31] So,
[00:14:34] this spot is pretty interesting
[00:14:36] because
[00:14:38] you kind of realize that even if you
[00:14:39] were on the balcony, you'd have to be
[00:14:41] right on the edge of the balcony to have
[00:14:43] a line of sight.
[00:14:45] um
[00:14:47] on the roof, you'd have to be right on
[00:14:48] the edge of the roof to have a line of
[00:14:50] sight. And this corner is getting some
[00:14:51] attention, but once we go up higher,
[00:14:53] this corner looks very exposed as well.
[00:14:56] So, all the theories about a shot from
[00:14:59] the side run into this problem of like a
[00:15:02] shooter needs a line. They need a
[00:15:04] location to shoot from, which is not
[00:15:08] maps for this uppermost roof up here.
[00:15:12] >> You'd have to be right at the edge.
[00:15:14] like super right at the edge and there's
[00:15:17] nothing else over there that's open. I
[00:15:20] mean, this crack right there is kind of
[00:15:25] sus, but like how like, you know,
[00:15:29] Charlie's tent is gone obviously, but
[00:15:31] how would you plan an assassination
[00:15:33] around a line of sight that required a
[00:15:35] chair placement, a tent placement,
[00:15:36] everything to be exactly laterally
[00:15:39] correct so that you have this complex
[00:15:40] line of sight down this crack in the
[00:15:42] building? That does not make sense to
[00:15:43] me.
[00:15:44] um of of all of the side shooter
[00:15:48] locations that are possible because I
[00:15:50] scanned this whole wall. I even was
[00:15:52] looking at drain pipes like are does
[00:15:54] anything come off of this wall? Are
[00:15:56] there any openings anywhere? And I think
[00:15:58] for me the most likely theory is the
[00:16:00] rooftop. Um
[00:16:03] the part of the reasoning for the
[00:16:06] rooftop
[00:16:08] um oh did I move Google
[00:16:12] here? Let me pull up
[00:16:15] Google Earth.
[00:16:18] So, part of the reasoning for why this
[00:16:20] rooftop is suspect, in my opinion, is
[00:16:23] because we saw that weird thing in the
[00:16:26] footage that was on the rooftop, but
[00:16:28] people obviously notice on Google Earth
[00:16:30] there's this little black thing that
[00:16:32] looks like a shadow from like a drain
[00:16:34] pipe, right? Um, it looks like a drain
[00:16:37] pipe. At least it looks thin and long.
[00:16:40] Um, so maybe that's what we were seeing.
[00:16:42] seems logical. Um, so I was expecting to
[00:16:44] see a drain pipe up there and to be
[00:16:46] like, cool, it's a drain pipe. It's
[00:16:47] there all along. It must just be a weird
[00:16:49] re like artifacting of why it
[00:16:50] disappears. But it's worth noting that
[00:16:52] this looks like roof access right here.
[00:16:55] This structure is roof access because
[00:16:58] there's no other way to get onto this
[00:16:59] roof. It you can't get up there. There's
[00:17:01] no there's no other access. This whole
[00:17:04] rooftop is visible from like street
[00:17:08] level over here. So, you know, it wasn't
[00:17:11] this rooftop.
[00:17:13] It wasn't This is the rooftop I was
[00:17:16] showing how we can see the whole top of
[00:17:17] this white rooftop here. Um, so this is
[00:17:21] the only rooftop anywhere over here
[00:17:23] other than maybe back here in this
[00:17:26] corner area that we're looking at. These
[00:17:28] two locations are like the only two that
[00:17:30] are still plausible in my mind for a
[00:17:32] shot from the side, personally. Okay.
[00:17:37] Um, so that's we're looking up here and
[00:17:39] up here,
[00:17:41] but then we'll we'll come back to that.
[00:17:45] I want to go to the footage that I got
[00:17:47] today
[00:17:48] of Oh, that's at the trapoor.
[00:17:52] Okay.
[00:17:54] So then I pull up I I saw this thing
[00:17:58] yesterday with my smaller uh like POV
[00:18:04] camera and I wanted to get my telephoto
[00:18:05] lens out and come back and look at it
[00:18:07] cuz it's it didn't look like the thing
[00:18:09] that we saw in the footage on day of and
[00:18:13] I don't know if it is.
[00:18:17] Okay. What the hell is that? It's like
[00:18:21] R2-D2 up there.
[00:18:23] And this one's shaky. Let me go to the
[00:18:25] where the where we get it clear.
[00:18:31] Turn on image stabilization.
[00:18:35] What the hell is that? I mean, I'm not
[00:18:37] saying like that's obviously not like
[00:18:38] some nefarious device or anything, but
[00:18:40] like
[00:18:42] some sort of drain pipe thing.
[00:18:45] And it's pretty big. It's like big and
[00:18:47] noticeable.
[00:18:51] And it might be the thing that was in
[00:18:52] the footage
[00:18:54] from the day of, but it's huge and
[00:18:58] noteworthy. It does not disappear when
[00:19:00] you walk left and right. I I walked the
[00:19:03] the angles. I wonder if I've got that
[00:19:05] piece of the footage here
[00:19:08] from the walkway. It would be No, it
[00:19:11] would be in the other day when I saw it
[00:19:13] here is very clearly visible from there
[00:19:17] and from here. This is zoomed in right
[00:19:19] now and it's not
[00:19:21] It's not.
[00:19:22] >> So, this is me walking back and forth
[00:19:23] back here about where the interview
[00:19:25] happened, where uh the life is driving
[00:19:28] footage was filmed from.
[00:19:30] >> Not out of view.
[00:19:31] >> And you can see it this whole area.
[00:19:34] >> It doesn't go out of view until you get
[00:19:35] all the way up above Charlie Kirk's
[00:19:37] position.
[00:19:37] >> All the way
[00:19:41] right above almost where Charlie was.
[00:19:43] >> So, here I'm standing above where
[00:19:45] Charlie was, and it's still vaguely
[00:19:46] visible. it probably wouldn't be visible
[00:19:48] in that footage that we've been looking
[00:19:49] at.
[00:19:50] >> But it doesn't just go out of view like
[00:19:52] let's go back to the original footage
[00:19:54] that got me asking these questions.
[00:19:55] Okay,
[00:19:56] >> in that original footage by the time bro
[00:19:59] gets over and around to here,
[00:20:04] it's a very thin little straight looking
[00:20:07] pole. And maybe that's the same thing.
[00:20:09] Maybe it's just two different cameras
[00:20:11] seeing it differently, right? Maybe it's
[00:20:13] not all that suspicious. you get around
[00:20:16] closer. So, this is after the shot
[00:20:20] and after the shot, it's not there,
[00:20:24] right? In the original footage from the
[00:20:26] day of the shooting, the thing is gone
[00:20:29] right there. And it's clearly there
[00:20:31] right there. And it's it looks a lot
[00:20:34] smaller than what I'm seeing today.
[00:20:37] Okay. And that's not to say that I'm
[00:20:39] it's necessarily like it could be the
[00:20:41] same thing. It could just be the nature
[00:20:43] of video cameras, I guess. Um, but like
[00:20:47] when he's interviewing this guy,
[00:20:50] they're standing in this position.
[00:20:56] So, right there, I just checked in on
[00:20:57] it.
[00:20:59] That's like right at the same lateral
[00:21:00] positioning is when he interviews these
[00:21:01] people. He interviews these people and
[00:21:04] then the shot is fired right right from
[00:21:07] this interview position. All he does is
[00:21:08] walk over to the gate to the railing.
[00:21:12] And you can see from this position, it's
[00:21:14] already gone before he even moves over
[00:21:16] the rail,
[00:21:21] right? Like, am I crazy? Am I crazy?
[00:21:26] I might be crazy, but
[00:21:30] like today now is very clearly visible
[00:21:35] from there and from here. And it's not
[00:21:40] it's not out of view until back here.
[00:21:45] Clearly,
[00:21:48] it's visible. And it's like a full-on
[00:21:51] R2-D2 thing. It's not like a a narrow
[00:21:53] little pole thing. So, like I am
[00:21:56] honestly wondering like is it newly
[00:21:59] installed?
[00:22:02] Like was that always there? Cuz there
[00:22:05] are new things popping up on the
[00:22:06] rooftops. There's like new cameras
[00:22:07] getting put up and new stuff getting put
[00:22:09] up and I don't know what to make of it.
[00:22:13] It is what it is.
[00:22:15] Doesn't solve anything, but it's got my
[00:22:18] hackles up. I'd be curious if any
[00:22:19] rooftop experts can tell us what this
[00:22:21] kind of thing looks like it's for. I
[00:22:24] want to know. Um, so that's that rooftop
[00:22:27] thing. Uh, let's get to the trapoor.
[00:22:31] Okay. In between filming B-roll of
[00:22:34] Flags, I was walking back and I saw that
[00:22:37] Bro had the trap door open. And so I
[00:22:39] naturally get out my phone and I'm all
[00:22:41] like stealth starting to record. I don't
[00:22:43] know if they're going to try to tell me
[00:22:44] not to record him or not. And I'm like
[00:22:46] right next to him. I'm like, "Oh [ __ ]
[00:22:48] dude. I got to see inside of there." And
[00:22:49] I like try to hold it up. It's not good
[00:22:51] enough. So I'm like, "We're going up."
[00:22:55] And this is with my phone. And I'm
[00:22:56] realizing that the phone is not going to
[00:22:58] be able to see down inside either. I got
[00:23:01] to get out the camera and like adjust
[00:23:03] the exposure myself. So, that's what we
[00:23:06] do.
[00:23:08] Um,
[00:23:11] so this is with a telephoto lens from
[00:23:13] above him with adjustable exposure. And
[00:23:15] I'm going to blow the rest of the scene
[00:23:17] way out bright so that that way it's
[00:23:19] correctly exposed for inside of the
[00:23:20] hole. And I mean it's not like we dis I
[00:23:23] I don't think we discovered the bat
[00:23:24] layer or anything like that, but you can
[00:23:28] see that there is a space under there.
[00:23:32] It is clearly like a a room style space
[00:23:36] that you could get down in there and
[00:23:37] move around and clearly like he could
[00:23:39] jump down in there and work on whatever
[00:23:42] equipment is under there. And there is
[00:23:43] this giant water feature right there.
[00:23:45] So, it's not that's not like crazy
[00:23:46] suspicious. Like, it makes sense that
[00:23:49] they would have features under there to
[00:23:52] run the water systems.
[00:23:54] Like, it was just me. Um, we also
[00:23:59] >> Oh,
[00:24:00] yeah.
[00:24:01] >> I mean, feel free to run crazy wild with
[00:24:03] your conspiracy theories if you want.
[00:24:04] >> I mean, it's not actually going to tell
[00:24:05] us anything, but it was neat.
[00:24:08] >> And the other one, it's just a sump
[00:24:09] pump.
[00:24:10] >> This one did not appear to have any
[00:24:12] other space around it. This one appeared
[00:24:13] to be contained in just what it is. You
[00:24:15] can see the walls around the edges.
[00:24:17] Okay. Um
[00:24:20] the the other one I could tell from
[00:24:23] looking down that it was a bigger space,
[00:24:25] bigger than just what you see here.
[00:24:27] >> There's a crawl space and another great.
[00:24:29] >> Take that for what it is. But
[00:24:32] [Music]
[00:24:35] >> okay. Oh, and then something crazy
[00:24:37] happened today. Something weird. They
[00:24:38] started taking away more of the scene.
[00:24:40] They just started. They brought in a
[00:24:42] forklift and started taking them out
[00:24:43] every above the water feature.
[00:24:46] >> Turn off the water. I'm not sure.
[00:24:50] >> Don't know why, but they're taking out
[00:24:51] the planters. Now, this is the second
[00:24:54] one. They'd already removed the one on
[00:24:55] the corner. And there's like a nice
[00:24:57] Charlie Kirk memorial, like little signs
[00:24:58] and flags stuck into these planters that
[00:25:01] I guess they're just going to take away.
[00:25:03] Um,
[00:25:05] so I don't know what they're doing
[00:25:08] there. I don't know what to make of it,
[00:25:11] but that is what it is. Um, so there's a
[00:25:16] couple of things
[00:25:21] is the person was like walking through
[00:25:23] here probably towards the prow. I am
[00:25:26] super confused by the Woodbury building
[00:25:28] footage now by se apparently seeing a
[00:25:31] person on top of the Woodbury building.
[00:25:34] Um, we can remind ourselves of that
[00:25:35] because I have it in this footage right
[00:25:37] here.
[00:25:39] right there.
[00:25:41] This is where
[00:25:45] like maybe it's not a person. It's
[00:25:47] probably too small to be a person.
[00:25:51] I don't know if it really moves. I'm
[00:25:53] suspecting that that was not a person,
[00:25:54] honestly.
[00:25:56] Um
[00:25:58] based on what how visible the top of
[00:26:00] Woodbury is. Okay.
[00:26:03] Um, one other thing that might be
[00:26:05] interesting to you guys that
[00:26:09] um, we have here.
[00:26:15] This is me analyzing the rooftops.
[00:26:18] This me in the back
[00:26:21] is the woods.
[00:26:27] These are the woods where the gun was
[00:26:30] allegedly stashed.
[00:26:34] There's this big dip down that when you
[00:26:36] get down there, you're like totally
[00:26:37] hidden.
[00:26:39] >> You are so
[00:26:39] >> private
[00:26:42] obscured from the road down here.
[00:26:47] And all of this that's like a steep hill
[00:26:50] up to the houses
[00:26:52] goes up to people's houses
[00:26:56] that I don't want to go getting in their
[00:26:58] way up in their [ __ ]
[00:27:12] And then I'm like, "Oh, but that looks
[00:27:13] like the chicken coop. That looks like a
[00:27:16] [ __ ] chicken coop." I don't cross no
[00:27:19] fences, but I just like peep from this
[00:27:20] side. And this is clearly the alleged
[00:27:22] chicken coop there. You can see the
[00:27:24] eggs. When I went around the corner, I
[00:27:25] could see there's all these eggs right
[00:27:27] there. This is the chicken coop. And
[00:27:29] this little spot right here behind this
[00:27:31] tree must be the alleged drop point. And
[00:27:34] there is a little kind of foot gravel.
[00:27:36] Like you can tell that this is a little
[00:27:38] stoner path down to this location up to
[00:27:41] there. That maybe is the kind of thing
[00:27:43] that that the family that lives in this
[00:27:45] house up here uses to get down and over
[00:27:46] to the school. Or maybe it's from the
[00:27:50] crime scene from all the investigators
[00:27:51] walking up and down it. But there's
[00:27:53] clearly a footpath of trafficked
[00:27:55] >> kind of walkway up from there.
[00:27:59] >> This is a chicken coop.
[00:28:05] Um I wasn't about to go trespassing on
[00:28:07] people's property, but that was clearly
[00:28:09] the drop site.
[00:28:11] And that is the chicken coop. And
[00:28:13] there's the chicken.
[00:28:14] >> That's the chicken coop.
[00:28:16] And apparently this is where the rifle
[00:28:19] was stashed.
[00:28:21] The rifle that is the only thing linking
[00:28:23] Tyler Robinson to the scene is that they
[00:28:26] just so happened to find this rifle that
[00:28:29] is a custom antique family heirloom. You
[00:28:33] could not get a more like specific
[00:28:36] identifier to link a person to a scene
[00:28:39] of a crime than this custom gun given to
[00:28:42] him by his grandfather. Very convenient
[00:28:44] that that is the gun that's left in the
[00:28:46] woods off site that we've never seen on
[00:28:48] camera. We've never seen in a photo.
[00:28:50] We've never seen in a video with Tyler.
[00:28:52] We've never seen Tyler holding it on
[00:28:53] campus. We've never even seen anything
[00:28:55] that is clearly Tyler on campus. Um, but
[00:28:58] we found a rifle that he very
[00:29:00] specifically definitely owns over here
[00:29:03] by this chicken coupe. Don't ask any
[00:29:05] more questions. Um,
[00:29:09] here
[00:29:11] been walking down here.
[00:29:14] You came back up to the road and he
[00:29:17] stashed it. So that's a chicken coop
[00:29:20] right there where it was allegedly
[00:29:22] stashed. And we don't really have
[00:29:24] clarity over whether he stashed it and
[00:29:28] then ran up through the houses. Doesn't
[00:29:30] make sense. Seems more likely that he
[00:29:32] stashed it, you know, assuming that's
[00:29:34] what happened and came back out up to
[00:29:38] the road, which is what I'm going to do
[00:29:42] because
[00:29:43] there's not really a way through
[00:29:46] over there. Here
[00:29:51] we're about to see the house on the
[00:29:53] corner that Candace is suspicious of.
[00:29:56] You came back up to the road.
[00:30:00] >> Then it seems likely that that camera
[00:30:02] would have been able to capture you a
[00:30:04] second time cuz you would have come up
[00:30:07] onto the road here
[00:30:09] and been walking down here to get back
[00:30:12] over to your exit point.
[00:30:16] And so
[00:30:17] in the same way
[00:30:20] that the camera was able to see him. So
[00:30:24] back there, right over my shoulder in
[00:30:25] the corner there, you can see the point
[00:30:27] on the building where the camera that
[00:30:28] showed us the rooftop video is. So it
[00:30:32] should have footage of him. If he took
[00:30:34] the road back down to get to back
[00:30:36] towards his car, it would probably have
[00:30:38] seen him again. Um, which they're
[00:30:39] obviously not going to show us.
[00:30:40] >> He was over here on the grassy null
[00:30:42] before he crossed the street. it would
[00:30:44] have been able to.
[00:30:45] >> And right here, you can't really see it,
[00:30:47] but there is kind of a foot path that
[00:30:50] leads up through these woods kind of
[00:30:51] into the property of this abandoned
[00:30:53] house
[00:30:54] >> side of the road
[00:30:55] >> right there
[00:30:55] >> that
[00:30:56] >> I can clearly see.
[00:30:57] >> Looked awfully convenient. If I was
[00:30:59] looking to get off the road as quickly
[00:31:01] as possible and back towards my car, I
[00:31:03] would have gone up that foot path
[00:31:04] towards that abandoned house. Um, no
[00:31:07] evidence that that's what Tyler did. I
[00:31:09] don't know. Even though that camera
[00:31:10] probably would have showed it.
[00:31:13] But I thought it was worth mentioning
[00:31:16] >> that there's like you can't really see
[00:31:19] it because of this bush,
[00:31:21] >> but here's the corner house that the
[00:31:24] school apparently.
[00:31:25] >> I mean there's also just like all of
[00:31:26] these ways up it too, but
[00:31:30] so you can tell. Okay, so um I think
[00:31:34] that that's all I really want to share
[00:31:38] from the footage right now.
[00:31:41] um little bit of data for a couple of
[00:31:43] different theories. Um if anyone if any
[00:31:46] of the investigators are out there
[00:31:47] seeing any of this footage and you want
[00:31:49] more detail on something in specific or
[00:31:51] you want me to share any of this footage
[00:31:52] with you specifically, let me know. If
[00:31:54] there's any questions that you have
[00:31:56] based on what you're seeing here, let me
[00:31:58] know. I mean, because at this point,
[00:32:02] our theories are kind of getting
[00:32:03] narrowed down a little bit, right? as in
[00:32:08] a shot from the side,
[00:32:10] there's not a lot of places the shot
[00:32:13] could come from.
[00:32:15] A shot from the front, there's also not
[00:32:18] a lot of places it could come from. And
[00:32:20] the roof of the velocity center is the
[00:32:21] most obvious one.
[00:32:24] Um,
[00:32:26] maybe from further back. Uh, this
[00:32:28] footage is not exactly from where
[00:32:31] Charlie was. It's from up higher. Once
[00:32:33] you're down lower where Charlie actually
[00:32:35] is, a lot of these buildings behind go
[00:32:37] out of view. Um,
[00:32:42] like the Woodbury building is out of the
[00:32:43] question. A lot of the potential places
[00:32:45] start to not be possible. Most of the
[00:32:47] windows around campus don't open. It's
[00:32:50] actually not as
[00:32:52] easy of a place to get a line of sight
[00:32:54] and put a shot down as it kind of seems
[00:32:58] from the footage. So,
[00:33:01] I don't really know what to make of it
[00:33:03] all. Let me see if I want to land
[00:33:07] right. Uh,
[00:33:13] where did I Oh, may I know why I I took
[00:33:16] that clip out because there was a whole
[00:33:18] bunch of students faces in it that I
[00:33:20] didn't want to blast on the live stream
[00:33:22] because I zoomed in up there, but I
[00:33:24] didn't want to like blast the zoom in on
[00:33:26] them. Um, oh, hey, here's another
[00:33:28] thought.
[00:33:31] just couldn't help but notice. So, this
[00:33:34] is where Charlie was is where these
[00:33:36] plants are.
[00:33:38] And when you turn to go back behind back
[00:33:42] here, a there's a security camera right
[00:33:45] there on the ceiling, the ceiling that
[00:33:47] they have by now replaced in its
[00:33:48] entirety for some reason. Well, not in
[00:33:51] its entirety. We saw video of them
[00:33:53] replacing sections of this ceiling.
[00:33:56] camera's right there.
[00:33:57] >> But you remember the dude that was, you
[00:34:01] know, the glasses guy that everyone's
[00:34:02] super suspicious of that was like on the
[00:34:04] security team that looked like he
[00:34:06] grabbed something off the he took the SD
[00:34:08] cards out of the cameras and then he
[00:34:09] like also ran back here and was like on
[00:34:11] the phone up on this gravel hilltop.
[00:34:14] Um,
[00:34:15] >> this is where they evacuated him too.
[00:34:17] this gravel hill, this gravel slope
[00:34:21] when you're actually there in person, it
[00:34:24] it would be a lot harder to get up onto
[00:34:26] than it looks like on video. Um, a that
[00:34:30] wall, I'm a tall dude, but that wall is
[00:34:32] really tall compared to the average
[00:34:34] height person. Like this, the height
[00:34:36] that that dude seems like he is, this
[00:34:38] thing is coming up like halfway up his
[00:34:39] body. He would had to like vault up onto
[00:34:41] it. And then the slope is really steep
[00:34:44] actually of rounded large rocks that
[00:34:48] would slide down under your feet. Like
[00:34:50] walking up this little slope would be
[00:34:52] like a scree field. And so it's like a
[00:34:55] really weird place for bro to go stand
[00:34:59] in the middle of this commotion. Like it
[00:35:02] took him effort to get up there. And
[00:35:04] honestly, it would be a lot easier to
[00:35:05] get up over here and then to walk up the
[00:35:07] the the lesser slope than to just get up
[00:35:09] here and go straight up. But like I have
[00:35:11] no idea why he was there, what he was
[00:35:13] doing up there. I I don't know. Um it
[00:35:16] just struck me as like when you're there
[00:35:18] in person, it becomes pretty obvious
[00:35:19] that that is not a convenient place to
[00:35:21] be at all. And I don't see any reason to
[00:35:24] be there at all. Um
[00:35:28] so I I don't know what to make of that.
[00:35:31] Um the memorials are really pretty.
[00:35:34] They're really touching. Um I think I'm
[00:35:36] going to say a brief thing about the
[00:35:37] memorials, then we'll jump into question
[00:35:38] and answer. Um, all I really want is for
[00:35:44] some rooftop expert to tell me what this
[00:35:47] thing is. And I'm sure it's nothing. I'm
[00:35:49] sure that we're just chilling. I don't
[00:35:51] know why it appeared and disappeared in
[00:35:53] the footage on the day of the shooting.
[00:35:55] It is obviously visible today from the
[00:35:57] entire walkway beyond where that video
[00:36:00] was taken from.
[00:36:03] So, I have some questions,
[00:36:06] but um let's just pause this on this
[00:36:10] photo of Charlie and Jesus.
[00:36:13] And let me pull up the chat now. Um I'm
[00:36:15] going to pull the chat over into this
[00:36:17] window here so I can see you guys.
[00:36:22] And now we're going to hang out a little
[00:36:23] bit. Um if you guys have any questions,
[00:36:27] um
[00:36:29] I can answer your any questions
[00:36:30] directly. I can show you anything in the
[00:36:32] footage.
[00:36:35] Looks like a duct with antennas. It's a
[00:36:37] It's clearly a thingamajig. There we
[00:36:39] are. Now we're on it. Uh, who said that?
[00:36:42] Maddie knows what's up. It is clearly a
[00:36:44] thingamajig. A rooftop expert. You guys
[00:36:47] don't know what a rooftop expert is?
[00:36:48] Come on, dude. A rooftop expert. I had a
[00:36:51] rooftop expert in my DMs today. Um,
[00:36:54] Ashley Hayes, thanks for the super.
[00:36:56] Thank you for doing this. Very helpful.
[00:36:57] I appreciate you.
[00:36:59] Um, I mean honestly I didn't do it to be
[00:37:02] helpful exactly. I did it because it
[00:37:05] felt right in my own mind just so that I
[00:37:08] could see it. Like the footage will I'm
[00:37:11] going to use it to make a video and it
[00:37:12] obviously is useful for us to like see
[00:37:14] it. it is useful and I'm happy to share
[00:37:16] as much of it as I can and anything I
[00:37:18] can but I kind of just came because it
[00:37:21] felt like I should see it cuz this thing
[00:37:24] has impacted me tremendously and I'm
[00:37:27] sure that it will continue to do so. I
[00:37:28] have a feeling that this story will
[00:37:30] continue to impact us for years and
[00:37:32] years and years. Um but also like it
[00:37:38] it is a moment in time that is going to
[00:37:41] go away. the the opportunity to see the
[00:37:45] place, to see what happened, to see the
[00:37:47] memorials, to just ask any questions
[00:37:50] visually of the space that you might
[00:37:52] have. That's not going to be available
[00:37:54] for very much longer. Already, they have
[00:37:56] torn out the grass, torn out the
[00:37:57] concrete, replaced the all of the scene,
[00:38:00] replaced everything on the ground,
[00:38:01] replaced part of the ceiling. They're
[00:38:02] pulling out the planters. That's not
[00:38:04] suspicious at all. Um, so I just felt
[00:38:07] like I had to get over here and see it
[00:38:08] right now and get the vibes for myself.
[00:38:12] And I wasn't sure if I was going to be
[00:38:14] trying to like interview people and get
[00:38:15] sources and get the scoop. And I'm doing
[00:38:18] a teeny bit of that in the background.
[00:38:19] I'm not going to share any of that in
[00:38:20] this footage. Um,
[00:38:24] but uh ultimately like
[00:38:27] I also just wanted to feel it, feel what
[00:38:30] the people were feeling, feel what the
[00:38:31] vibe is. and it's very somber and it's
[00:38:33] very compelling and the memorials are
[00:38:36] very um they're heartwarming and they
[00:38:41] feel meaningful. Um as meaningful as a
[00:38:44] memorial can be um when someone gets
[00:38:47] brutally murdered on college campus in
[00:38:49] front of everybody.
[00:38:51] But you know um let me catch up with
[00:38:53] some supers that came in here. Where'd
[00:38:56] they go?
[00:38:59] Colton Larkin, thanks for the super
[00:39:01] grainy ass photo of the rifle. No black
[00:39:03] towel. He left a screwdriver on the roof
[00:39:05] but assembled the gun in the wooded area
[00:39:06] without said screwdriver. Exactly right.
[00:39:09] The fact that there's a screwdriver on
[00:39:10] the roof tells us that the official
[00:39:13] narrative is that there was some
[00:39:14] assembling and disassembling of the gun
[00:39:15] on the roof. That doesn't make exactly
[00:39:17] any sense. But um then when he jumps off
[00:39:20] the roof in the footage, we don't see a
[00:39:22] gun in that footage. Not to mention
[00:39:24] there was no time to disassemble it. Um,
[00:39:25] we know that he was running 3 seconds
[00:39:27] after the shot. The rifle is the crux
[00:39:30] here. And Candace is reporting, I think,
[00:39:32] is getting starting to hone in on the
[00:39:34] picture because
[00:39:36] the rifle on the roof. We don't have any
[00:39:40] evidence of the rifle on the roof. We
[00:39:42] have evidence that they're afraid to
[00:39:43] show us the footage of him taking the
[00:39:44] shot that we know they should have, but
[00:39:47] they ain't showed us that. So, mm,
[00:39:50] thanks for the super. I appreciate you.
[00:39:52] JLo, do you if there were do you know if
[00:39:56] there was an actual autopsy report and
[00:39:57] what conclusions did you come to? I
[00:39:59] don't I know as much as you guys about
[00:40:00] the autopsy report, which is that it
[00:40:02] simultaneously never happened according
[00:40:05] to the police scanner radio. It also did
[00:40:09] happen, but it was the surgeon that did
[00:40:11] it and Charlie has bones of titanium
[00:40:14] that deflect bullets according to Andrew
[00:40:16] whatever his name is, Kulit. And then
[00:40:19] also
[00:40:21] there was an autopsy done by the coroner
[00:40:23] that's expected to show it ricocheted
[00:40:25] down into his heart and stopped his
[00:40:27] heart. And I think there was one other
[00:40:30] report also that there was no autopsy.
[00:40:31] And so it's all just [ __ ] Um it's
[00:40:35] all fake at this point. Not going to
[00:40:38] probably trust an autopsy even when it
[00:40:39] comes out cuz that's doctorred as hell.
[00:40:42] I I don't know what to make of it. It's
[00:40:43] I mean it is fact that in Utah it is the
[00:40:48] law that you have to do an autopsy on
[00:40:51] any person that has been killed for any
[00:40:52] sort of suspicious circumstance, murder,
[00:40:55] stuff like that. Um they were required
[00:40:57] to do an autopsy by law. And the fact
[00:40:59] that there's any debate about whether
[00:41:01] there was an autopsy, the fact that
[00:41:03] they're not waving the autopsy around on
[00:41:05] mainstream media to show us that their
[00:41:06] story is true
[00:41:09] is very suspicious. And I think we all
[00:41:11] kind of know what it means. Anyone that
[00:41:13] thinks that this story is what they're
[00:41:15] telling us it is still at this point
[00:41:19] is
[00:41:23] Yeah. Um they're dumb. It's It's dumb.
[00:41:27] Sorry, I got way behind on the supers
[00:41:29] here. I'm trying to catch back up to
[00:41:30] where they were. Um wow, JLo, that's a
[00:41:33] really big super. I appreciate that,
[00:41:35] man. Thank you, KH. Thanks for the big
[00:41:37] super. You guys are amazing. You're the
[00:41:39] best. Thank you for your relentless
[00:41:40] effort for truth. You know, try my best.
[00:41:41] I don't know about any truth here, but
[00:41:43] certainly on the ground perspective.
[00:41:45] That's the thing is that sometimes
[00:41:46] there's no truth to be found, but there
[00:41:48] is context. There's context of what it
[00:41:50] looks like, what it feels like, what
[00:41:51] people are talking about. I talked to a
[00:41:53] couple of students today. I talked to
[00:41:54] some people that work at the building.
[00:41:55] I've talked to a couple police officers.
[00:41:57] Just kind of getting people on the
[00:41:59] grounds vibes for what it is.
[00:42:02] Made a video on t uh Tom Ferrell show.
[00:42:04] Thank you for the super. I made a video
[00:42:05] on TikTok with 600k views that got
[00:42:07] removed.
[00:42:09] did covering how his mic is a bit sus
[00:42:11] especially after the pages is clearly a
[00:42:13] small c. I am not sold on the mic
[00:42:15] exploding theory at all. A the video
[00:42:17] that brought that to the forefront looks
[00:42:20] edited and I think Zeb Boyin is right
[00:42:22] that I think it might be edited. It's
[00:42:24] possible Chris Martinson was analyzing
[00:42:26] it and the frame the initial expansion
[00:42:28] frame where it looks like there's the
[00:42:29] explosion at his neck. Maybe that's the
[00:42:32] temporary cavitation being shown and it
[00:42:34] just looks really weird but it might be
[00:42:36] edited. Like remember that we are weeks
[00:42:39] after the fact and the bad guys know
[00:42:42] that we're all trying to find the truth
[00:42:43] in these videos and audio files and I
[00:42:45] think a lot of videos are getting
[00:42:46] circulated now that have been edited and
[00:42:48] that are not authentic and original and
[00:42:50] without a direct chain of custody of the
[00:42:52] metadata of the phone it was recorded on
[00:42:54] directly into your analysis into the
[00:42:56] video you're watching. You got to be
[00:42:58] really careful what video you're
[00:42:59] trusting now. which is why to me it was
[00:43:01] so important to get on the scene and see
[00:43:02] it for myself and get my own video
[00:43:04] footage at least of the layout even if
[00:43:06] not of the day of. So, but beyond that,
[00:43:10] A, you can see that the lapel mic is
[00:43:12] still on his shirt after the shot was
[00:43:15] fired. B, the lapel mic is over here.
[00:43:18] The exit wound appears right here on the
[00:43:21] other side of his neck. So for if your
[00:43:23] theory is that something went through
[00:43:25] his neck from here to here, there's no
[00:43:27] place in that theory for his spine to be
[00:43:29] severed and we know for a fact that his
[00:43:32] spine was severed. So whatever
[00:43:34] trajectory you want to infer happened,
[00:43:37] it has to pass through his spine. We can
[00:43:39] tell from the posturing, it's that like
[00:43:42] that inward turning of the hands, the
[00:43:44] the the stiffness that is a posturing
[00:43:46] that means severe traumatic brain injury
[00:43:49] to the to the brain stem or the spine.
[00:43:51] Pro in this case, probably a severing of
[00:43:53] the spine. Um, it's hard to say, but not
[00:43:56] just a passing through the front of the
[00:43:58] neck. That's not not possible in that
[00:44:00] scenario. Um, so I am not of the mindset
[00:44:03] that the lapel mic exploded at all. And
[00:44:06] when you analyze it frame by frame
[00:44:08] slowly, like
[00:44:10] you can see the trauma happen up here
[00:44:13] before the mic is even moved. It to me
[00:44:15] it aligns a lot more with just how a
[00:44:16] lapel mic moves on. Anyone that has worn
[00:44:18] lapel mics, I've actually got one right
[00:44:21] here. Anyone that's worn a lapel mic
[00:44:24] knows that they flop back and forth a
[00:44:27] lot like this because of the way they're
[00:44:29] weighted and stuff. So, they hide behind
[00:44:31] seams. They flop with seams, especially
[00:44:33] if it was clipped to his uh earpiece
[00:44:35] cord or whatever kind of cord. The way
[00:44:36] that Zeb was thinking, there's still a
[00:44:38] lot of debate about the earpiece. We
[00:44:40] don't know. Um, but Tom Ferrell, A,
[00:44:44] thanks for the super. I appreciate it.
[00:44:45] B, thanks for seeking the truth. And D,
[00:44:48] all theories are on the table.
[00:44:49] Personally, I think I've taken that one
[00:44:51] off of my table, but everyone has to
[00:44:53] come to their own conclusions and think
[00:44:54] for themselves. Don't trust me, trust
[00:44:56] your eyes. Um,
[00:45:00] oh dude, the squib theory. Holy [ __ ]
[00:45:02] We'll talk about the squib theory in a
[00:45:04] second here. I saw a different comment
[00:45:05] about the squib theory.
[00:45:08] What is my opinion about what really
[00:45:10] happened? What do you think?
[00:45:11] Constitutionalist news. Thanks for the
[00:45:12] big super there. What is my opinion?
[00:45:14] What do I think really happened, dude?
[00:45:17] Um, I think he got shot and I don't
[00:45:21] think it was by the rifle that they've
[00:45:22] shown us. And I don't think it had
[00:45:24] anything to do with Tyler Robinson based
[00:45:25] on the current body of evidence. I think
[00:45:27] it is more likely that Tyler was going
[00:45:31] to a CIA school in a CIA program and was
[00:45:35] getting involved in the intelligence
[00:45:36] community is extremely smart, extremely
[00:45:38] good grades from a family that generally
[00:45:41] leans in the direction like in this
[00:45:42] whole school. I did a whole report on
[00:45:45] the CI program at the school he goes to
[00:45:47] or went to before he dropped out after
[00:45:49] one semester. So he's in a position like
[00:45:51] Lee Harvey Oswald to be, you know,
[00:45:54] parallel to intelligence operations,
[00:45:55] maybe in some form, but like totally
[00:45:57] unimportant.
[00:45:59] Maybe for whatever reason he gets picked
[00:46:00] to be a pathy. Maybe he's in on the
[00:46:02] psyiness. Probably not based on what
[00:46:04] we're hearing now. He's got this great
[00:46:06] gun that's going to link him to the
[00:46:08] scene that somehow or other gets
[00:46:11] planted. I assume that Tyler had to be
[00:46:13] somehow in on the gun getting put there,
[00:46:15] being told something that was not true
[00:46:17] about what was going on.
[00:46:19] I I guess um but I'm starting to wonder
[00:46:24] seriously if Tyler is even our shooter
[00:46:26] or like is even was there at all as in
[00:46:29] was Tyler even the person that was on
[00:46:32] the roof here. I'm going to pull up a
[00:46:34] screen a screen of the scene so to speak
[00:46:37] if I can get control of my computer
[00:46:38] again here. Where's a screen where I'm
[00:46:42] looking back up at everything.
[00:46:46] Boom. Right there.
[00:46:49] Let me
[00:46:52] So,
[00:46:56] did the shot come from the low roof of
[00:46:59] the Los Ci center? Maybe. The angles
[00:47:01] aren't exactly right. Um, the ballistics
[00:47:03] don't really make sense. It makes a lot
[00:47:05] more sense if it's an exit wound that we
[00:47:07] see than an entry wound. The problem
[00:47:09] with the exit wound is that there's
[00:47:11] nowhere for the shot to come from and we
[00:47:13] don't know what the heck that means. And
[00:47:14] so, it's like right now I think that we
[00:47:16] have no [ __ ] clue. And the fact that
[00:47:18] we have no [ __ ] clue means it's an
[00:47:20] intelligence agency operation. Cuz
[00:47:22] that's the point is that they try to
[00:47:24] make a believable story and when the
[00:47:25] believable story isn't quite believable
[00:47:27] enough that they just cover everything
[00:47:28] else up and flood the zone and [ __ ] your
[00:47:30] head up and hopefully get away clean
[00:47:33] enough that you never find the real
[00:47:35] answer. So I don't know the real answer,
[00:47:38] constitutionalist news, but I'm leaning
[00:47:42] towards
[00:47:43] exit wound is what we saw.
[00:47:48] And
[00:47:49] I have no idea where the shot would have
[00:47:51] come from if that's true.
[00:47:54] Um,
[00:47:56] but I'm suspecting intelligence agency.
[00:47:59] Severe like strongly suspecting
[00:48:01] intelligence agency as you all know as I
[00:48:03] said on day one that this looks like an
[00:48:05] intelligence agency hit job. So,
[00:48:10] um, yeah, I don't think the gun was ever
[00:48:12] on the roof. Whoever's comment I just
[00:48:14] saw that said that as the world
[00:48:15] crumbles, anything from the left side
[00:48:17] for possible shot? Good question. Not
[00:48:20] really. Um I don't know if this frame
[00:48:23] goes over to the left at all.
[00:48:27] N
[00:48:28] Yeah. Boom.
[00:48:33] So
[00:48:35] this whole roof I feel like it's off the
[00:48:37] table. Um Oh, my screen is frozen.
[00:48:45] Is it back?
[00:48:48] Yeah, it looks like it's back. Is it?
[00:48:49] Maybe it's just this this layout that's
[00:48:51] frozen. No, it's still good. Okay, so
[00:48:53] this roof I think is kind of ruled out
[00:48:56] because it's all visible from the
[00:48:59] walkway that kids were on. I mean, maybe
[00:49:02] there could be a line of sight from up
[00:49:04] here.
[00:49:05] I'll I'll look into it tomorrow. Um,
[00:49:09] I
[00:49:11] doubt it. This whole black roof is all
[00:49:14] one big building
[00:49:17] and there's no crawl spaces. There's no
[00:49:19] secret spots. There's no nothing. It's
[00:49:22] I've been and I've been looking like
[00:49:23] I've been looking at the water feature.
[00:49:26] I've been looking at the surfaces. I've
[00:49:27] been looking at holes in the wall being
[00:49:30] like, is there anything behind that hole
[00:49:31] in the wall? Is there a place where a
[00:49:33] sniper could like crawl through like the
[00:49:35] Mariana's trench and emerge in like a
[00:49:38] chamber and go through the gas vent and
[00:49:40] then wind up behind this hole in the
[00:49:41] wall? Like that's the level of tin foil
[00:49:43] I'm at right now. And I've not found any
[00:49:45] holes in any walls. I've not found any
[00:49:47] perches. And it's not like I'm some
[00:49:48] expert. It's not like I was going to
[00:49:50] find some hole in a wall, but I've been
[00:49:52] looking. Um, if that makes you feel any
[00:49:54] better, I'm not I'm not giving this this
[00:49:56] area a pass by any means. Um,
[00:50:01] I have access to some really good
[00:50:03] upscale/sommo tools. If you wanted to
[00:50:05] try pulling some details out of these OG
[00:50:07] clips, I'm down. Scarecrow Jenkins, that
[00:50:09] is a great idea. If you search on
[00:50:12] YouTube, Life is Driving.
[00:50:16] Um, Charlie Kirk assassination.
[00:50:19] The footage is from this account called
[00:50:21] Life is Driving on YouTube that um
[00:50:27] here. Let me just pull it up.
[00:50:31] Life is Driving. Adam Bartholomew is his
[00:50:35] name.
[00:50:37] And this is the video and it's called
[00:50:44] uh
[00:50:45] Oh, I guess my screen share is all Oh,
[00:50:49] it's cuz I'm in the wrong. That's why.
[00:50:52] Um, so it's this
[00:50:55] raw footage of Charlie Kirk TP USA
[00:50:57] shooting at Utah Valley. It's an hour
[00:50:58] and 9 minutes long and it's on this
[00:51:00] YouTube channel called Life is Driving
[00:51:02] and you can just go and download it
[00:51:05] yourself and analyze it. Um, and I
[00:51:07] highly recommend doing that because
[00:51:08] right now this is one of the best video
[00:51:10] files that we've got um, collectively of
[00:51:14] this shooting. So that is what it is.
[00:51:18] Um, let me get back into the supers
[00:51:21] here.
[00:51:28] Yeah, I've been I've been looking at
[00:51:29] Erica Kirk, guys. Um I'm definitely not
[00:51:31] about to throw public accusations at
[00:51:32] Erica Kirk without solid evidence. Um
[00:51:35] certainly looking at all theories, but
[00:51:38] Chris Gloss, thank you for the super.
[00:51:40] Are there windows off to the right and
[00:51:41] behind of where he was? I saw a video on
[00:51:44] IG with muzzle flash from supposedly
[00:51:46] that area. I think you're referring to
[00:51:50] um like
[00:51:53] uh let's get down below. Like are you
[00:51:57] referring to these windows here? I think
[00:51:59] is what you're saying. Um a these
[00:52:02] windows don't open, but I was super
[00:52:04] curious about these vents above the
[00:52:06] windows. I've been curious about these
[00:52:07] vents since before I came here. And I
[00:52:11] purposely came here to look at these
[00:52:12] vents and they are not openable and they
[00:52:17] I see clear evidence that they have not
[00:52:19] been opened. Like they're all cobwebby
[00:52:21] and dirty and I can see that they have
[00:52:23] not been removed almost certainly and
[00:52:26] put back on. Likewise, I was also
[00:52:28] looking at like these little things on
[00:52:30] the wall. Like I wasing looking at
[00:52:31] everything, guys. Seriously, like if you
[00:52:34] want to send a conspiracy theorist that
[00:52:36] will literally check all possible
[00:52:37] angles, like I am your guy. And I'm
[00:52:41] peeping it. Like I'm even peeping these
[00:52:43] little like divots in the wall that are
[00:52:44] just little scrapies. They're, you know,
[00:52:47] I'm looking
[00:52:49] and,
[00:52:52] you know, nothing going on there.
[00:52:55] Um, that being said,
[00:52:58] I did get this neat footage down this um
[00:53:04] there's the cop walking by. He was
[00:53:05] sketchy. Uh,
[00:53:09] where did we where do we clear up? Okay,
[00:53:13] here's an angle.
[00:53:15] Um,
[00:53:17] because
[00:53:19] where Charlie Kirk was at the time is
[00:53:24] like cordoned off. you can't actually
[00:53:25] stand there anymore. It's kind of hard
[00:53:27] to get angles that actually show you
[00:53:29] this line of sight at him. Um, and so
[00:53:35] Charlie Kirk was right there where this
[00:53:37] kind of like right at the end of this
[00:53:39] hallway,
[00:53:42] right in front of the end of this flag
[00:53:44] right here. And so when this clears up,
[00:53:46] we're kind of in a straight line
[00:53:49] more or less
[00:53:51] to the guy like
[00:53:56] Right. So, this is sort of all of your
[00:53:58] options except for maybe there there's
[00:54:01] maybe a little more space,
[00:54:03] you know, to the right of this wall
[00:54:04] where Charlie was out a little bit. So,
[00:54:06] maybe a little further over on this
[00:54:08] corner might have been able to see him,
[00:54:10] but this is kind of what you get.
[00:54:12] Balcony, rooftop, crack, top corner, or
[00:54:16] something secret in the walls or
[00:54:18] something. Um,
[00:54:23] but like this balcony super exposed.
[00:54:26] That balcony is not a good place to be
[00:54:28] when there's crowds everywhere.
[00:54:33] That whole balcony super visible. I
[00:54:34] mean, even in this footage right now,
[00:54:36] you can see the rungs on the backs of
[00:54:38] the chair. You can see the flowers on
[00:54:40] the bush. It's not not a good hiding
[00:54:43] spot. And all of this space was all
[00:54:46] filled with people. So,
[00:54:49] like
[00:54:52] I don't know what to say about it.
[00:54:56] The muzzle flash was it reflected in the
[00:54:59] window surfaces.
[00:55:01] Um I was just seeing you were talking
[00:55:02] about the muzzle flash.
[00:55:05] That's the clip I killed. Um Oh, these
[00:55:09] are the cool cars that everybody built.
[00:55:14] So, the muzzle flash was like reflected
[00:55:16] in this window right here. If it was
[00:55:17] muzzle flash, we don't know. Um, I have
[00:55:21] no idea what that flash anomaly is.
[00:55:27] Are we still live? Yeah, we're still
[00:55:29] live.
[00:55:31] Um,
[00:55:34] but yeah, that if any of you guys don't
[00:55:37] know about the flash in this window, Zeb
[00:55:39] Boyin has been looking at it. I think
[00:55:41] that uh Range Day Bro looked at the
[00:55:43] flash a little bit too. I don't know
[00:55:45] what to make of it. It appears for one
[00:55:46] frame and it appears right in the same
[00:55:48] frame as the shot basically. Um but what
[00:55:51] it would be reflecting is a mystery
[00:55:54] because there's nothing like there's
[00:55:55] nowhere to hide. This whole stairwell
[00:55:57] was open to the public. This whole
[00:55:59] balcony was filled with people. None of
[00:56:01] these open. The windows don't open. All
[00:56:05] of this was filled with people.
[00:56:07] So,
[00:56:12] let me get back up to where I was in the
[00:56:14] supers.
[00:56:17] >> Oh, I'm at the top of the supers now
[00:56:18] suddenly.
[00:56:28] >> Um, okay. Let's uh pull back in here to
[00:56:32] there.
[00:56:37] You can see something white moving 1912
[00:56:39] through 1920 in the life is driving
[00:56:42] video.
[00:56:45] Where would we see that?
[00:56:47] Um
[00:56:55] 19
[00:56:59] 12.
[00:57:01] Oh, you mean a flying thing.
[00:57:22] Oh, you guys don't see the screen right
[00:57:24] now. I should probably share it. So,
[00:57:25] you're in on this.
[00:57:27] Um, that being said,
[00:57:30] I'm not sure I'm picking up what you're
[00:57:32] putting down there, bro.
[00:57:34] If it's a tiny white flying, like a tiny
[00:57:36] like UAV drone, I'm going to leave that
[00:57:38] to John Cullen and Jason Goodman.
[00:57:40] They're way better at that than me. Um,
[00:57:41] and that's not a dig. I'm serious.
[00:57:43] They're way better at that than me. Um,
[00:57:46] yeah, if you I'm not You're going to
[00:57:47] have to be way more specific with that
[00:57:48] super chat. I don't know what you're
[00:57:49] talking about. Um, but there are all
[00:57:51] kinds of weird flying anomalies going on
[00:57:53] in here.
[00:57:57] Uh, [ __ ] I don't know. Thanks for the
[00:57:59] big super. Uh, I'll read your super. I'm
[00:58:02] not going to start speculating on
[00:58:03] Charlie's wife, though. Charlie's wife
[00:58:04] wore all that black eye makeup during
[00:58:05] the funeral with effing pyro. If a
[00:58:08] woman's wears black eye makeup, it will
[00:58:10] run when you cry. No chance in hell. Her
[00:58:12] tears were real. Waterproof makeup is a
[00:58:14] scam.
[00:58:16] Word. Um, yeah. I don't know what to
[00:58:17] make of it. Uh, Phil Lyman. I don't know
[00:58:21] what to make of Phil Lyman. I mean,
[00:58:22] Candace kind of spilled some beans on
[00:58:23] Phil Lyman today. I think we all learned
[00:58:25] some things about Phil Lyman. I don't I
[00:58:26] mean I don't think Hannah was trying to
[00:58:27] say that Phil is necessarily like a
[00:58:28] nefarious actor or anything. Who knows
[00:58:30] what Phil's up to, but Phil is
[00:58:32] definitely in the story. I've talked to
[00:58:33] Phil. I haven't met him yet.
[00:58:37] Has anyone heard that Trump introduced
[00:58:39] Erica and Charlie Kirk? Yes, have heard.
[00:58:42] Um, cool. Well, when it it lost my feed
[00:58:44] and a lot of the supers I think got lost
[00:58:46] in that. I'm I'm sorry if I missed your
[00:58:47] super, but um that's pretty much where
[00:58:51] we're at. That's pretty much the uh run
[00:58:55] of the the run of the show.
[00:59:00] Um
[00:59:03] let me uh put this away. Well, actually,
[00:59:07] maybe we might need it again for one
[00:59:08] last bit of this chat here. Um but I'm
[00:59:11] going to crack one more beverage real
[00:59:12] quick. Um and then I'm going to read a
[00:59:14] few more of your chats before we log out
[00:59:16] for the night.
[00:59:22] [Music]
[00:59:27] Gigi's hungry. I have to go get her
[00:59:29] dinner still
[00:59:32] because rush hour traffic was super
[00:59:34] effed earlier. What is squib? Oh, squib
[00:59:38] theory. We got to talk about squib
[00:59:40] theory, guys. Oh my gosh. Oh goodness.
[00:59:44] Squib theory. What is a squib? You guys
[00:59:47] don't know what a squib is? Um,
[00:59:52] squib
[00:59:54] blood effect. I don't even know if I
[00:59:57] want to show squib videos
[01:00:00] um
[01:00:02] because squibs are what
[01:00:06] um Hollywood uses to make fake gunshots
[01:00:12] and injuries and stuff like that.
[01:00:16] And so,
[01:00:20] um, you can look up squibs online, sqi
[01:00:24] b. Squibs are usually little explosive
[01:00:28] charges that get placed on the skin with
[01:00:31] a backing and they get hidden underneath
[01:00:33] clothing or underneath like fake skin
[01:00:35] and then you can blow them up and they
[01:00:37] have like a protective backing layer
[01:00:39] that protects the actor but they go and
[01:00:41] they make it look and they can shoot
[01:00:43] blood out of them from a little blood
[01:00:44] packet and make it look like you've been
[01:00:46] shot. So the squib theory is all the
[01:00:49] people wondering if Charlie even got
[01:00:50] shot and maybe it's all fake. It's all
[01:00:53] an illusion. And like I do not subscribe
[01:00:56] to that theory. Let's be clear. But
[01:01:00] I have talked to some very smart people
[01:01:01] that have their heads on their
[01:01:02] shoulders, even a few in industries that
[01:01:05] you know are relative to Charlie and the
[01:01:07] situation, and they've made some
[01:01:10] convincing arguments that it's something
[01:01:11] that you might at least keep an eye on
[01:01:14] because
[01:01:16] like, yeah, that's that's a great theory
[01:01:18] and all, but like we saw it come out of
[01:01:20] his neck. We saw blood pour out of his
[01:01:22] neck. We saw him die and go catatonic
[01:01:24] and he bled everywhere and like he was
[01:01:26] around all his. It's like I do not think
[01:01:28] that Charlie fake died because I mean a
[01:01:31] just if you walk your mind through that
[01:01:32] then he has just committed to never
[01:01:34] seeing his kids again. Like going into
[01:01:36] that kind of like wit pro like he's just
[01:01:39] said yeah bye wife and child.
[01:01:42] I'm going to do this for my country or
[01:01:45] whatever. Like I doubt it a lot. But if
[01:01:50] you want to go down a crazy [ __ ]
[01:01:51] rabbit hole,
[01:01:54] uh you can look up how this this looks
[01:01:57] really gnarly when he does it because
[01:01:59] it's a fake neck. Okay, this is a fake
[01:02:01] neck, just so you know. Not his real
[01:02:04] neck cuz they just take scissors in
[01:02:06] there and just start cutting it open.
[01:02:11] But it's a very convincing fake neck.
[01:02:14] Oh, you guys can't see it. Haha. Gotcha.
[01:02:20] So, this is
[01:02:22] a fake neck that they're cutting an
[01:02:24] opening into so that that way they can
[01:02:26] have a fake throat slashing in the film
[01:02:28] and blood will squirt out of the throat
[01:02:30] slashing realistically.
[01:02:33] So, this is not a gunshot, but you can
[01:02:35] look up gunshot squibs, too. But it is
[01:02:38] particularly relevant
[01:02:40] because
[01:02:42] that's a fake neck that they have just
[01:02:45] cut a line into so that they can conceal
[01:02:48] a blood like dispersion system behind
[01:02:51] it.
[01:02:53] And then they put their tubes in and
[01:02:55] stuff like that
[01:02:57] and they can actually like smush it back
[01:02:59] closed.
[01:03:01] And that's a fake neck.
[01:03:04] So,
[01:03:07] like these theories always feel so crazy
[01:03:11] and before I ever looked into them, I
[01:03:13] thought they were crazy, too. But then
[01:03:17] you learn about the intelligence
[01:03:19] agency's history with disguise. You
[01:03:21] learn about John Menddees um who walked
[01:03:25] into the White House into the Oval
[01:03:27] Office and briefed President HW Bush way
[01:03:29] back in the 90s wearing a full skin mask
[01:03:33] disguise like Mission Impossible style
[01:03:35] and the Secret Service didn't even know.
[01:03:36] Like CIA disguise technology is out of
[01:03:40] control. It's [ __ ] that we can't even
[01:03:42] imagine. And Hollywood has played a big
[01:03:44] role in intelligence agencies pushing
[01:03:47] the the limits on disguises and optics
[01:03:52] and makebelieve and who really knows
[01:03:55] what they can do nowadays. So if you
[01:03:58] want to go completely insane and lose
[01:04:00] all connection to reality, which I don't
[01:04:02] recommend, you could look into squib
[01:04:04] theory because anything is possible. I
[01:04:08] mean, who knows? Personally, I'm not
[01:04:11] really into it because it just doesn't
[01:04:13] really lead anywhere. You're never going
[01:04:15] to solve it. That's never going to get
[01:04:16] exposed. It's never going to have proof.
[01:04:18] It's never going to come out, I don't
[01:04:19] think. So, I'm trying to stay with stuff
[01:04:21] that we can figure out. But, I don't
[01:04:24] know.
[01:04:28] In Life is Driving video, he already
[01:04:29] started turning around. It's like there
[01:04:31] there is some interesting analysis to be
[01:04:32] done on the crowd reactions. I still
[01:04:34] haven't seen enough deep diving into
[01:04:37] crowd reactions. Um, but there's a lot
[01:04:40] of data in the crowd and um I thought
[01:04:43] that Chris Martinson pointed out really
[01:04:45] well that there's a couple people in the
[01:04:46] crowd that are pointing like right right
[01:04:48] during the shot kind of. So,
[01:04:53] oh good correction here, Flojo Tube
[01:04:56] about my speaking about Zeb Boyin's
[01:04:59] theory. You're right. Zeb Boyin is not
[01:05:01] of the mindset that that it's a muzzle
[01:05:02] flash. He is now actually kind of
[01:05:04] audaciously saying that, well, not
[01:05:06] audacious, it's just because he's an
[01:05:07] expert, he understands these things.
[01:05:09] He's saying that he thinks it's a bullet
[01:05:11] breaking the sound barrier most likely.
[01:05:13] And you're seeing a reflection of like
[01:05:16] the visual artifact caused by a it's
[01:05:20] kind of like a mini sonic boom, I think.
[01:05:23] I hope I'm not butchering that
[01:05:24] completely, but Zeb is really cool. I
[01:05:26] really like Zeb's analysis and I've been
[01:05:28] following along with every video he's
[01:05:29] put out. Um, he's doing a really great
[01:05:32] job of analyzing is it a necklace, is it
[01:05:34] an earpiece, is the ballistics, the like
[01:05:36] I I really appreciate him sticking to
[01:05:38] his guns, analyzing the original
[01:05:40] footage, knowing the footage, like just
[01:05:42] analyzing the actual data and not
[01:05:44] budging because this or that new theory
[01:05:46] comes along or whatever. Um, I dig it.
[01:05:48] Zeb is a great dude to follow right now.
[01:05:53] Um, Sue Butler, thank you for the super
[01:05:55] shot came from under the table. His
[01:05:56] shirt reacted to upwards shot. smaller
[01:05:58] bullet traveled upward and lodged in
[01:06:00] blank. Um, I don't think so, but I mean
[01:06:03] at this point I don't have a better
[01:06:05] explanation. So, Jason Thor, thanks for
[01:06:08] the super. Andrew Kulvit, Eastern
[01:06:10] European, specifically Jewish Ashkanazic
[01:06:11] roots derived from the Yiddish word
[01:06:13] kulvit, meaning to cover or to protect.
[01:06:17] Hey, you said it, not me, bro.
[01:06:20] I mean, let's be clear. Andrew Kulit was
[01:06:22] like one of Charlie's best friends in
[01:06:25] the world. And I am certainly not about
[01:06:27] to level an accusation at that man
[01:06:30] because of the gravity of such an
[01:06:32] accusation. You better have some damn
[01:06:34] good evidence that Andrew Kulovit is
[01:06:37] behind something before you're accusing
[01:06:38] him of something like that because that
[01:06:39] is that would be were that true
[01:06:43] deeply evil to betray your best friend
[01:06:46] in a way like that. That's not something
[01:06:48] that I'm willing to
[01:06:51] even begin to accuse publicly. And I do
[01:06:53] not suspect that. To be clear, I do not
[01:06:54] suspect that Andrew Kulvit knew anything
[01:06:57] in advance or was at all involved in
[01:06:59] Charlie Kirk's death. Um, I have a lot
[01:07:02] of questions about what he said about
[01:07:04] the autopsy report, but that could be um
[01:07:07] chocked up to like him being traumatized
[01:07:10] and not knowing all autopsies and just
[01:07:12] repeating what he was told. Like a lot
[01:07:14] of times in these situations,
[01:07:16] people are played as fools, so to speak.
[01:07:18] are used in order to push parts of
[01:07:21] stories because they just are a pass
[01:07:23] through for information. Something that
[01:07:24] I have been before and I think a lot of
[01:07:26] people have whether they know it or not.
[01:07:28] Um, and in this kind of a situation
[01:07:30] that's like one of the most dangerous
[01:07:31] things is that they feed information out
[01:07:34] into the media space and then we all
[01:07:36] pick it up and run with it whether it is
[01:07:39] real or not. Um, it's a very powerful
[01:07:43] tactic in the modern day and age for
[01:07:44] them to use. Um,
[01:07:50] Bixs, thanks for the huge super. $50
[01:07:53] super. That's amazing. Follow the money.
[01:07:54] Charlie took out a 350K loan from TPUSA
[01:07:58] on form 9990 schedule L from their two
[01:08:01] 2024 tax return. That makes TPUSA part
[01:08:04] owner of the policy. Also, a 501c3. They
[01:08:07] are not allowed to engage in politics.
[01:08:09] So, money funneled to other entities.
[01:08:13] Interesting.
[01:08:15] I
[01:08:17] don't know about that. Um, how do I how
[01:08:21] do I save a super? How do I save a
[01:08:25] super? Yeah, 36 of you liked that super.
[01:08:28] You're dang straight. I'm going to take
[01:08:29] a photo of that super and look into that
[01:08:32] later, Bicks. That is a good super.
[01:08:35] Appreciate the huge super. Um, and the
[01:08:37] great tip. That's dope. Am I um
[01:08:44] cool
[01:08:46] am I feelerful for for my life, Heather?
[01:08:48] No, I'm not. Um I'm not I'm definitely
[01:08:53] not inviting everyone over to wherever
[01:08:55] I'm staying right now. I'm definitely,
[01:08:57] you know, being mindful and taking
[01:08:59] precautions. I'm definitely
[01:09:02] have a concealed carry and stuff like
[01:09:04] that. Um but I'm not like worried for my
[01:09:08] life. That's just basic
[01:09:10] uh safety in in this line of work. But
[01:09:14] um
[01:09:16] if I were to come across like the thing
[01:09:20] that clearly exposed some evil cabal as
[01:09:23] being behind this and I was like the
[01:09:25] only person that had that information,
[01:09:26] I'd be [ __ ] super concerned for my
[01:09:28] life and I would immediately turn on a
[01:09:30] live stream and tell as many people as
[01:09:32] possible so that I'm not the only one
[01:09:33] holding that information. Um but I don't
[01:09:35] have any information like that right
[01:09:36] now. Um, or do I feel Lyman? No, I'm
[01:09:40] just playing. Um, but uh, no, I'm I'm
[01:09:44] not worried about my life. And I kind of
[01:09:46] purposefully like avoid trying to get
[01:09:48] the inside scoop too much usually so
[01:09:50] that I don't get in that position. Um,
[01:09:53] sometimes you kind of get thrown into
[01:09:55] the thick of things. Anyways, Gigi can
[01:09:57] come play at my house with my dogs while
[01:09:59] you are in Utah. Yeah, she doesn't
[01:10:01] really like other dogs that much
[01:10:03] usually. She Gigi has a lot of trauma.
[01:10:06] She was a rescue that was found
[01:10:07] abandoned in a field. And I sus I'm
[01:10:10] almost certain that she was attacked by
[01:10:14] coyotes when she was out alone. And
[01:10:16] she's like very touchy with dogs. Not
[01:10:19] not cuz she doesn't like dogs, but just
[01:10:20] because she knows that not all dogs are
[01:10:22] good guys. And she is willing to [ __ ]
[01:10:24] like she's willing to [ __ ] tell you
[01:10:26] to back up if she's not with your vibes.
[01:10:28] Um so she likes some dogs, just not all.
[01:10:31] Just like people. Um what about
[01:10:34] Charlie's memo? Any legitimacy behind
[01:10:36] that? Screenshot it. Uh, his memo. I
[01:10:38] don't know what you mean by memo. Do you
[01:10:40] mean his letter to BB? Do you mean his
[01:10:43] memo about uh, auditing Turning Point's
[01:10:46] finances? Because that is super
[01:10:48] relevant. Candace is definitely on to
[01:10:50] something there.
[01:10:56] Backpack in morning looks blue and
[01:10:58] tunnel blackish. Zippy,
[01:11:01] I don't know how to read your name, but
[01:11:02] thanks for the super. Um,
[01:11:07] cool. I'm trying not to drop any supers
[01:11:08] while I'm scrolling this chat here,
[01:11:10] hanging out. Thank you for the little
[01:11:11] super there, Hi DB. I appreciate you.
[01:11:14] Cool.
[01:11:16] The Romanian angles.
[01:11:19] Be careful digging into the Romania
[01:11:22] stuff with Erica Kirk.
[01:11:25] I have done the dig a little bit and
[01:11:28] there might be stuff there, but it's
[01:11:31] really tenuous.
[01:11:33] Um, and it's it's dangerous to make bold
[01:11:37] accusations. Like
[01:11:40] imagine imagine a scenario where Erica
[01:11:44] Kirk
[01:11:46] is a total godly woman that loved
[01:11:48] Charlie to death and did not do anything
[01:11:49] wrong ever and obviously was not in on
[01:11:51] this and has just had her heart broken,
[01:11:53] is doing her best to rebuild Deep USA.
[01:11:55] That is a very potentially possible
[01:11:56] scenario where she's like totally a good
[01:11:58] guy and totally based and actually maybe
[01:12:00] she's going to help save America later.
[01:12:02] But
[01:12:04] in that scenario, if you start accusing
[01:12:08] that woman of trafficking children based
[01:12:11] on like some weird connections that you
[01:12:12] found and some weird reporting from the
[01:12:14] past, you're a [ __ ] shitty person.
[01:12:17] Okay? If you start accusing an innocent
[01:12:20] woman that has just lost her husband and
[01:12:23] tried to go through all this grieving
[01:12:24] and you start accusing her of human
[01:12:25] trafficking because you made some
[01:12:27] connections in the research and you're
[01:12:30] wrong,
[01:12:32] that's pretty shitty, bro. And it just
[01:12:36] is. And it it's one thing when you're
[01:12:38] like an anon that's doing your own thing
[01:12:40] out there that has your own theories,
[01:12:41] but you're not like reaching people.
[01:12:43] You're not voicing to people. It's a
[01:12:45] whole different thing when a million
[01:12:47] people see what you say. Okay. And it's
[01:12:49] really important to try to have very
[01:12:51] solid evidence before you make
[01:12:52] accusations like that. And so I did look
[01:12:54] into the stuff about Erica Kirk's
[01:12:56] history and about her time with
[01:12:58] pageantry and her time with the mission
[01:12:59] in Romania. And I did find the reporting
[01:13:02] that people are kind of latching on to
[01:13:04] that there there is a scandal about the
[01:13:07] American military base that was in
[01:13:08] Romania um about trafficking and a
[01:13:12] brothel kind of thing with the American
[01:13:14] military base around the same time
[01:13:16] frame. and she does have some sort of
[01:13:19] connection to a general that was
[01:13:21] associated with that base because her
[01:13:25] charity organization was using the US
[01:13:28] military to get uh supplies and like
[01:13:30] school supplies and gifts into the
[01:13:31] children Christmas gifts I think. Um,
[01:13:35] so there's a maybe small there's a
[01:13:38] potential, right? Maybe in a in a dark
[01:13:40] world, in a dark conspiratorial world,
[01:13:42] could be true, but there's a lot of room
[01:13:46] for that just being the military is
[01:13:49] involved in shitty [ __ ] and it's vast
[01:13:51] and complex and there is a scandal on
[01:13:52] this military base, but then this other
[01:13:55] unrelated charity is trying to send
[01:13:57] Christmas gifts to kids in Romania. And
[01:13:59] just because she once acknowledged the
[01:14:02] general that was also sometimes
[01:14:04] mentioned in the reporting about like be
[01:14:05] very careful about drawing too many
[01:14:07] connections without direct proof. Okay?
[01:14:10] Like that's how you wind up just like
[01:14:14] inventing your own reality. Because if
[01:14:16] you were to like you could make a theory
[01:14:18] about all the people that I've been in a
[01:14:20] photo with, all the people who I've
[01:14:21] shaken hands with, you can make a theory
[01:14:23] about like everyone that Candace has
[01:14:25] ever talked to, right?
[01:14:27] Just because you've met someone or
[01:14:29] mentioned someone or shooken someone's
[01:14:31] hand does not mean that you're in a
[01:14:32] business venture with them. Doesn't mean
[01:14:33] you're organized crime with them.
[01:14:35] Doesn't mean you even know anything
[01:14:36] about them. Okay? So, just be careful
[01:14:38] about connecting dots um that are loose
[01:14:43] but lead to really bold accusations. Um
[01:14:46] personally,
[01:14:49] I have not seen any conclusive evidence
[01:14:50] that Erica is bad. She has the pedigree
[01:14:55] of a potentially sketchy person, but she
[01:14:58] also has the pedigree of a potentially
[01:15:00] perfect wife for Charlie. Um, make of
[01:15:03] that what you will, whether you think
[01:15:04] that's staged or not. Um, but, you know,
[01:15:08] I'm I'm not of the mind to blame her or,
[01:15:11] you know, think negatively of her until
[01:15:13] I see some real evidence.
[01:15:16] I spent day uh, thanks for another good
[01:15:18] Wow, Bix, you're you're crushing it. I
[01:15:19] spent days diving down the rabbit hole.
[01:15:21] Happy to send you over everything I
[01:15:23] have. I've analyzed three of their
[01:15:25] 501c3s so far. The web of corruption is
[01:15:27] pretty wild. Example, 30% commissions on
[01:15:29] fundraising when standard is 2 to 5%.
[01:15:33] Interesting. Bixs, you sound like the
[01:15:35] kind of person that should just be
[01:15:36] making videos, bro. That's the thing is
[01:15:39] that everyone should just be making
[01:15:40] videos. It It's People think of making
[01:15:44] videos as like the thing you do to get
[01:15:46] followers to like become a social media
[01:15:48] influencer. That's all [ __ ] That's
[01:15:50] like 2012, 28, 2008. Like we are way
[01:15:54] past that. We're in the era now where we
[01:15:55] are all social media influencers. We're
[01:15:58] all just people online that make that
[01:16:01] have stuff, have ideas, make stuff like
[01:16:03] and most information is better shared in
[01:16:07] video breakdown. Most information holds
[01:16:10] more weight if it's you showing what you
[01:16:12] found. And like and even if you only get
[01:16:14] it seen by a thousand people, those
[01:16:16] thousand people are people that want to
[01:16:17] see it. And if you made a video about
[01:16:19] that kind of a thing, then I could see
[01:16:20] it and I could understand like, oh,
[01:16:22] look, he see Bix did great work on this
[01:16:24] stuff. So, Bix, you should consider
[01:16:25] making some videos, bro. Um, not even to
[01:16:28] like, you know, be famous or like be an
[01:16:30] influencer or anything. That's all
[01:16:31] [ __ ] just because
[01:16:35] like it's better. It's a useful way to
[01:16:38] contribute to everything and you are
[01:16:39] clearly contributing. Um,
[01:16:52] Uncle Ted Ian 1000% is a fed. I mean,
[01:16:55] you're welcome to think that. Prove it.
[01:16:58] Cuz that's the thing is that I've
[01:17:01] learned a lot from my own mistakes in
[01:17:03] the game so far. I've only been doing
[01:17:04] this for like two and a half years. Um,
[01:17:06] spooky.
[01:17:08] But like one thing I've learned very
[01:17:10] clearly is from looking at what other
[01:17:13] people say about me. I know my whole
[01:17:15] life story. I know everything bad I've
[01:17:17] ever done. I know everything good I've
[01:17:19] ever done. I know everything suspicious
[01:17:21] I've ever done. I know everyone I've
[01:17:22] ever worked with. I know all the money
[01:17:24] I've ever taken in. And I know that my
[01:17:27] closet doesn't really have any skeletons
[01:17:28] in it. And I know that there's not
[01:17:30] really anything that like I'm not
[01:17:31] worried. Like I
[01:17:34] there's nothing there. And so
[01:17:37] I see other people making up crazy
[01:17:39] conspiracy theories about me. And like I
[01:17:42] get it. It's funny. And like I would be
[01:17:44] suspicious if I saw me come on the scene
[01:17:45] too and I would watch closely and I
[01:17:46] would think carefully about what a guy
[01:17:47] like me says and I would judge
[01:17:49] accordingly. But being in my own shoes,
[01:17:53] I get to see like the the reality of
[01:17:55] what my life really is versus what other
[01:17:57] people think. And and it reminds me that
[01:17:58] like, oh yeah, [ __ ] dude. It's so easy
[01:18:02] to be wrong about someone else's complex
[01:18:05] life that if you're gonna stake your
[01:18:08] reputation on accusing someone else of
[01:18:10] what their life is about, you better
[01:18:13] have some [ __ ] proof. Because if
[01:18:16] someone wanted to make some crazy
[01:18:17] accusation about like where I was in
[01:18:19] 2012, go ahead and make it. I've got
[01:18:22] photos. If you want to tell me what I
[01:18:25] was doing in 2007, I've got journals and
[01:18:28] journals and journals. I've probably got
[01:18:29] a journal page from every single day of
[01:18:32] 2007 with my name signed, with the date,
[01:18:34] with my own handwriting. I've got boxes
[01:18:36] and boxes of artwork. I've got a whole
[01:18:38] archive of my whole life. I know my
[01:18:40] life. And so, when you start making
[01:18:41] accusations about other people's lives,
[01:18:42] you just have to be really careful. And
[01:18:44] especially when it's like a grieving
[01:18:46] widow. It's not like I'm not going to
[01:18:47] come out publicly and like make shitty
[01:18:48] accusations. So, you're welcome to have
[01:18:50] your own theories. You're welcome to
[01:18:51] think that I'm a fed. I don't care. Um
[01:18:53] because I know what I'm about. Um and
[01:18:55] I'm honestly I'm the only one that I
[01:18:57] know. Like I don't I I don't feel 100%
[01:18:59] confident about anyone else in this
[01:19:01] industry. I feel 99.9% confident about a
[01:19:04] couple of the homies for sure. Um I've
[01:19:06] been I've been sussing out the scene and
[01:19:08] finding out who do I really trust. Like
[01:19:09] who do have I met their families? Have I
[01:19:11] met their kids? Do I know where they
[01:19:12] live? Do I know their backstory? Do I
[01:19:14] know their employers? Do I know like
[01:19:15] people that have known them for a very
[01:19:17] long time? Have I met their childhood
[01:19:18] friends? Things like that. Are their
[01:19:20] opinions solid? Do they change their
[01:19:22] mind when they're wrong? Those sorts of
[01:19:24] things start to give me more and more
[01:19:25] comfortable that I this person I feel
[01:19:27] like I can trust. Um, but ultimately I'm
[01:19:30] the only one that I know for sure what I
[01:19:32] am. Um, and everyone else is like, you
[01:19:34] know, y'all have your own stories, too.
[01:19:36] So, how about the connection with the
[01:19:38] Nicholas Cage movie and the
[01:19:40] assassination of Charlie Kirkland? Seems
[01:19:42] like there's a pattern. So, I haven't
[01:19:43] gotten to see the movie yet. Um, I'm
[01:19:46] sure I'll watch it sooner or later.
[01:19:49] I don't know what to make of it, dude.
[01:19:50] Like, maybe the whole world is a stage.
[01:19:52] I mean, I've heard some pretty great
[01:19:55] like Qlevel theories about what's going
[01:19:57] on here,
[01:19:59] and I can't disprove it. I mean, that's
[01:20:02] what I love about how [ __ ] up the
[01:20:04] world is in this horrible way is that
[01:20:06] like, yeah, maybe it's all feds. Maybe
[01:20:10] it's all maybe it's all white hats.
[01:20:12] Maybe it's like white Christian
[01:20:14] nationalists like giving this like great
[01:20:17] Christian uprising to like defeat
[01:20:19] Israel. And like I don't know like could
[01:20:22] be prove it wrong. I dare you to prove
[01:20:24] it wrong. Um but ultimately it's like
[01:20:27] I'm not going to operate my life based
[01:20:28] upon all those theories. I'll just pay
[01:20:31] attention to them and have a good time.
[01:20:33] Just watch and learn, right?
[01:20:36] I think that my main criticism I think
[01:20:38] this is what I'm going to end the show
[01:20:39] on today. The last last thing of the
[01:20:41] night. My main criticism about most
[01:20:44] people online, both the the normies, the
[01:20:48] NPCs, the bots, the [ __ ] based smart
[01:20:52] people, the homies, the the the guys
[01:20:54] that get it, girls that are thinking, as
[01:20:57] well as like the actual researchers, the
[01:20:59] like influencers and theing journalists
[01:21:00] and the people that are have platforms.
[01:21:03] My biggest critique for everyone is that
[01:21:05] most people think they know way too
[01:21:06] [ __ ] much. My biggest critique is
[01:21:08] that like everyone gets so [ __ ] sure
[01:21:11] of themselves and thinks that they're so
[01:21:13] smart and you're not. Like you're not
[01:21:16] that smart. A lot of you are smarter
[01:21:18] than me, but that's not a super high
[01:21:20] bar. And ultimately, like how much do
[01:21:23] you really know about the world? Like
[01:21:25] most of history is a lie. And most of
[01:21:27] history is built on history being a lie.
[01:21:30] And like most of science has been bought
[01:21:32] out by money. Like B like so much of
[01:21:34] what we think we know about the world is
[01:21:36] actually bought and paid for narrative
[01:21:37] building from corporations over the last
[01:21:39] h 100red years or like intelligence
[01:21:41] agency scops for the last hundred years
[01:21:43] or like just [ __ ] lying
[01:21:46] that it's like how do you really know
[01:21:48] what's going on? Are you sure? Are you
[01:21:51] sure? Like just your
[01:21:54] first principles theories like do aliens
[01:21:57] exist? Have humans had contact with
[01:21:59] them? Is the moon real? Have we been to
[01:22:01] the moon? based upon your perspective of
[01:22:04] those questions right there. Everything
[01:22:06] in reality is different. And if you're
[01:22:07] right and it's this, then all of that
[01:22:10] changes. And if you're wrong and it's
[01:22:11] that, then all of that changes. And
[01:22:13] maybe you're super confident that you
[01:22:15] know the answers to are there aliens? Is
[01:22:17] the moon real? Have we been to the moon?
[01:22:18] Like you know those basic big space
[01:22:21] questions. Or is the earth flat? Right?
[01:22:24] I'm sure you are so sure that you know
[01:22:26] for sure. For sure. For sure. But like,
[01:22:30] do you really are you really that
[01:22:32] informed? Are you really that smart? Do
[01:22:34] you are you are you sure that you're
[01:22:36] smarter than everyone else that thinks
[01:22:38] the other thing than you?
[01:22:41] Like that feels pretty egotistical and
[01:22:44] conceited in my mind. And and I would
[01:22:46] urge everyone to be a little more humble
[01:22:48] and realize that maybe there's things
[01:22:50] you don't know out there. And I don't
[01:22:53] know, maybe that's fed posting. Um I
[01:22:55] would argue it's just logical. It's just
[01:22:57] being thoughtful.
[01:22:59] And when you have the humility to
[01:23:00] realize that you might not know
[01:23:02] everything, that opens your mind to
[01:23:05] considering a lot more and deciding a
[01:23:07] lot less. So I try to ask all the
[01:23:10] questions. Look at all the evidence. I
[01:23:12] have no problem listening to the theory
[01:23:14] that maybe Charlie's not even dead yet
[01:23:16] and maybe they used a fake squib that
[01:23:18] made it look like he died and it was all
[01:23:20] staged and that's why the security
[01:23:21] guards looked weird and that's why
[01:23:22] everything is sketchy and fake. Like
[01:23:26] bring the theory on. Let's talk about
[01:23:28] the evidence. I think it's fascinating.
[01:23:30] It doesn't mean that I'm going to
[01:23:31] necessarily think it's likely. Um or
[01:23:33] even maybe necessarily possible. Um
[01:23:36] although for clarification, I think it
[01:23:38] is possible, but extremely unlikely.
[01:23:42] But that being said,
[01:23:44] really interesting conversation to have.
[01:23:45] You get to learn a whole lot about the
[01:23:47] world, about squibs, about disguises.
[01:23:49] You get to think about these complex
[01:23:51] logistics.
[01:23:53] It just gets you thinking in new ways
[01:23:54] and it's a lot of fun and it gets you
[01:23:56] connecting with other people. When you
[01:23:57] think you know everything, you make a
[01:23:59] lot less friends. When you think other
[01:24:01] people might know things that you don't,
[01:24:04] it's a lot easier to make friends and to
[01:24:06] uh learn things you didn't know before
[01:24:07] and ask questions and stuff. So, I don't
[01:24:10] know. I just I just think that people
[01:24:12] are way overconfident and way too mean
[01:24:15] to each other. Just a bunch of dicks. Um
[01:24:17] just be nice to people, you know?
[01:24:24] Um, I think that's it for the night. Is
[01:24:26] there any last supers that I missed?
[01:24:28] Scasmuski, thanks for the super. Great
[01:24:30] work. I found a channel I love, Signal
[01:24:32] Over Silence. That's a cool name. She
[01:24:34] used Chat GBT and goes down so many
[01:24:36] rabbit holes and it's extremely
[01:24:37] interesting word. Um, though, do be
[01:24:41] careful about people that are overusing
[01:24:42] AI without double-checking that as a
[01:24:44] source. AI is only as good as the
[01:24:47] sources that it can site in my opinion.
[01:24:50] If AI is telling you something as though
[01:24:52] it's true and they don't have a source,
[01:24:54] in my opinion, that's a bunch of
[01:24:56] baloney. Um, and I'm skeptical of people
[01:24:58] that would trust that and put that out
[01:25:00] on the internet. Um, without at least
[01:25:02] doubleecking most of it, especially the
[01:25:03] big claims. So, that's it for the night.
[01:25:06] It's getting late. I got to get myself
[01:25:07] dinner. I got to get Gigi dinner. I
[01:25:09] really appreciate you hanging out.
[01:25:10] Hopefully, that helped. If there's
[01:25:11] anything else in the footage that I have
[01:25:13] that you want to see more of, or if
[01:25:15] anyone has any special requests, hit me
[01:25:17] up. If any of the specifically if any of
[01:25:18] the researchers out there found any of
[01:25:20] this interesting or have want more
[01:25:22] details, I'm going to be here for
[01:25:23] another couple days. Um, and I could
[01:25:26] probably go and get some more footage
[01:25:27] for you or investigate some more angles
[01:25:29] and leads. Probably going to go to Dairy
[01:25:31] Queen tomorrow. I think we're having
[01:25:32] some confusion about Dairy Queens out
[01:25:34] there. Um, but yeah, that's it. I know
[01:25:37] it's late, but be sure to drink some
[01:25:39] water, tell someone you love them, do
[01:25:41] something nice for someone tomorrow, and
[01:25:42] maybe try to get outside in some
[01:25:43] sunshine and touch some grass. And um
[01:25:49] yeah, maybe um in honor of Charlie Kirk
[01:25:53] um whatever faith you profess, whatever
[01:25:55] god you believe in, whatever higher
[01:25:57] power you think is up there creating
[01:25:59] this world that is flat or round or
[01:26:01] whoever knows what it is. Um, maybe just
[01:26:04] spend some time with them with that,
[01:26:05] with it, with her, him, God, you know,
[01:26:09] spend some time talking to God tonight
[01:26:11] because I think regardless of who you
[01:26:14] are, where you are, what you believe, I
[01:26:15] think we all kind of feel that the
[01:26:18] problem sort of stems from us being a
[01:26:21] little out of touch with God these days.
[01:26:24] And maybe you should get back in touch
[01:26:26] with whatever you call that thing that
[01:26:28] is in your heart telling you what's
[01:26:30] right and wrong.
[01:26:32] what's good and bad. And we should all
[01:26:35] be listening to that a little more,
[01:26:36] right? So, thanks for being here.
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