'WHAT IS A WOMAN?' Two Cis-Men Discuss — Charlie Kirk & Matt Walsh LIVE at #YWLS2022

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[Music] [00:08:39] what else i have to do [00:08:45] [Music] [00:09:05] pull me closer [00:09:20] take my love don't [00:09:27] face my mind [00:09:36] [Music] [00:09:44] [Music] [00:10:15] feeling the fear i know you feeling [00:10:41] tonight [00:10:58] welcome [00:11:09] do it again in the morning [00:11:38] somebody better say a prayer [00:11:44] crazy [00:12:02] wow [00:12:19] oh [00:12:27] [Music] [00:12:29] wow [00:12:38] wow [00:12:56] so [00:13:52] do [00:14:08] do [00:14:52] do [00:15:57] so [00:16:46] [Music] [00:17:40] [Music] [00:17:52] [Music] [00:18:09] [Music] [00:18:45] [Music] [00:19:06] [Music] [00:19:08] one in a million [00:19:10] one in a million [00:19:12] one in a million [00:19:14] one in a million [00:19:16] one in a million [00:19:18] one in a million [00:19:20] one in a million [00:19:22] one in a million [00:19:32] you know they're coming [00:19:35] [Music] [00:19:57] [Music] [00:20:01] one in a million [00:20:13] [Music] [00:20:16] is [00:20:18] [Music] [00:20:26] bring it up [00:20:29] [Music] [00:20:40] my [00:20:53] [Music] [00:21:14] [Music] [00:21:24] one in a million [00:21:29] [Music] [00:21:34] we're driving cars [00:21:42] we wanna tonight [00:22:25] [Music] [00:22:27] we're driving [00:22:29] cars tonight [00:22:41] we wanna go [00:23:11] [Music] [00:23:19] [Music] [00:23:40] funny thing about love is [00:23:43] you never really know when it's coming [00:23:45] but you better believe you'll know when [00:23:47] it's there [00:23:48] true story [00:23:51] [Music] [00:24:00] you know i keep it cool [00:24:11] [Music] [00:24:23] [Music] [00:24:30] go ahead [00:24:43] and you can be sure [00:25:04] [Music] [00:25:11] baby [00:25:12] next [00:25:33] so you better be sure [00:25:44] oh yeah [00:26:08] and you can [00:26:20] one day [00:26:37] so you better be sure [00:26:53] oh [00:27:17] going home [00:27:20] [Music] [00:27:31] [Music] [00:27:41] foreign [00:28:53] going home [00:29:06] bye [00:29:18] yes [00:29:20] [Music] [00:29:33] [Music] [00:29:40] um [00:29:55] [Music] [00:30:00] uh [00:30:14] [Music] [00:30:21] [Music] [00:30:51] [Music] [00:31:21] [Applause] [00:31:30] well as you can tell we are not matt [00:31:33] walsh but [00:31:35] the p is coming if y'all have looked [00:31:38] outside you know the weather delay so we [00:31:40] are trying to [00:31:42] um wait on him to get here but he is [00:31:44] coming so y'all just stay tight but [00:31:48] i don't want to hear the um [00:31:50] yeah that's not exciting i've been [00:31:53] holding my bladder for 30 minutes now [00:31:56] i'm gonna get up and not listen to [00:31:57] kendall and paige [00:31:59] i promise we're fun [00:32:01] um but yeah so who was at our [00:32:04] gun shooting the facts breakout session [00:32:09] honestly it was so amazing to see so [00:32:12] many passionate and young female [00:32:15] involved in the second amendment and [00:32:17] wanting to just learn more about it i [00:32:19] know whenever i was young like some of [00:32:21] y'all are still in high school who's in [00:32:23] high school here [00:32:24] [Applause] [00:32:26] first of all that is just incredible [00:32:28] that y'all are coming to conferences [00:32:30] just like this at such a young age and [00:32:32] it is so important to get the next [00:32:34] generation involved so kudos to you guys [00:32:40] so kendall and i were talking backstage [00:32:42] and we were like shoot whatever what are [00:32:44] we going to talk about and we said oh [00:32:45] guns right that's us um so [00:32:48] what we were talking about is obviously [00:32:50] high schools and getting involved and [00:32:52] we've met so many of you young ladies [00:32:54] high school and college even elementary [00:32:57] school any like young young ladies in [00:32:59] here [00:33:00] few of them there we are we've got you [00:33:02] i love that [00:33:04] lovely there you are [00:33:06] i didn't realize i've been in the gun [00:33:08] industry i've grown up around firearms [00:33:10] my entire life and i didn't realize the [00:33:12] need for the second amendment until two [00:33:15] years ago and i didn't have to fight for [00:33:17] the second amendment at such a young age [00:33:19] and i don't know if i would have had the [00:33:21] guts to come to an event like this or [00:33:24] the courage to fight for it or involve [00:33:26] myself with firearms or just anything in [00:33:28] the conservative movement [00:33:34] yes that is amazing [00:33:37] [Applause] [00:37:41] [Music] [00:37:54] [Music] [00:38:02] [Music] [00:38:08] [Music] [00:38:20] [Music] [00:38:32] [Music] [00:38:53] [Music] [00:39:20] [Music] [00:39:36] [Music] [00:40:02] so [00:40:04] [Music] [00:40:16] so [00:40:18] [Music] [00:40:40] hey [00:40:49] [Music] [00:40:58] [Music] [00:41:16] one in a million [00:41:18] one in a million [00:41:21] [Music] [00:41:45] you know they're coming unto me cause [00:41:48] i'm just [00:41:51] [Music] [00:41:53] [Applause] [00:41:55] [Music] [00:42:01] [Music] [00:42:10] [Music] [00:42:14] one in a million [00:42:16] [Music] [00:42:18] [Applause] [00:42:20] [Music] [00:42:28] things [00:42:33] [Music] [00:42:43] [Applause] [00:42:47] [Music] [00:42:50] [Applause] [00:42:55] these things all right so here's a [00:42:56] question who has heard of assault [00:42:59] weapons [00:43:02] [Music] [00:43:19] [Music] [00:43:24] one [00:43:26] [Music] [00:43:34] [Music] [00:43:37] one in a million [00:43:44] [Music] [00:43:54] tonight [00:43:55] we want to go [00:43:59] [Music] [00:44:02] [Applause] [00:44:06] [Music] [00:44:40] we're driving [00:44:42] cars tonight [00:44:45] we're passing up to the stars tonight [00:44:49] we wanna go [00:44:53] [Music] [00:45:09] controlled by the atf they basically are [00:45:11] hovering over us [00:45:13] um they don't have that term anywhere on [00:45:16] their website [00:45:18] i looked everywhere assault weapon is [00:45:21] not a real term get rid of it they're [00:45:24] trying to use and leverage our fear in [00:45:27] order to control our firearms and take [00:45:30] it it's yucky [00:45:34] i'm very opinionated about this just a [00:45:36] little bit [00:45:38] what's another one it starts with the g [00:45:41] oh it ghost rifle or ghost rifle ghost [00:45:44] guns [00:45:50] yeah i don't even know what ghost gun [00:45:51] means that because it's not in my [00:45:53] vocabulary and it shouldn't be so i'll [00:45:55] let you explain what ghost guns mean so [00:45:58] ghost guns has anyone heard this term [00:46:01] so what's interesting is a lot of these [00:46:03] and doing my research and honestly [00:46:06] getting into turning point befo [00:46:07] last year when i was joining ywls i said [00:46:11] oh i i'm not very political i don't [00:46:14] think i'm i don't think i'm educated [00:46:15] enough to fight for the second amendment [00:46:17] or understand these bills [00:46:20] do any of you feel that way [00:46:22] these bills come out and you're like [00:46:24] they're very confusing i don't i don't [00:46:27] know how to read those so i finally just [00:46:29] sat down and i said well shoot i have to [00:46:31] do this so i sat down and started to [00:46:33] read them and i was like wait a second [00:46:34] this doesn't make sense this is not what [00:46:35] i see when i sell guns day to day this [00:46:37] is not what i see when i they talk about [00:46:40] that guns rights [00:46:42] or firearms are affecting african [00:46:46] americans that's weird because last week [00:46:48] i signed up an entire [00:46:51] not a white person was in my women's [00:46:54] fundamentals class you know who it was [00:46:57] all minorities they all showed up and [00:46:59] they're taking this class why don't we [00:47:01] hear about that [00:47:03] it's not it's an american right to own a [00:47:05] firearm but they try to make it this [00:47:08] separation so i started researching and [00:47:11] ghost guns came up and i was like what [00:47:13] is what is this i have no idea what this [00:47:16] thing is and i finally realized that [00:47:19] legally we are able to have they're [00:47:21] called 80 percent lower so i'm not going [00:47:23] to get like too in depth with this [00:47:24] because it can get a little messy but [00:47:28] basically you're able to [00:47:30] purchase a piece of a firearm and [00:47:33] build it with certain components those [00:47:36] components are not serialized [00:47:38] because the atf right the person who or [00:47:42] the the whoever [00:47:44] who looks over us says don't worry [00:47:47] there's so much machining needed in the [00:47:50] processing and making of this firearm [00:47:52] that it does not need to be serialized [00:47:55] but we don't hear about that so i can [00:47:57] sell part or piece of a firearm you put [00:48:00] it together and what they want to do [00:48:03] is they want to ban those and they call [00:48:05] them ghost guns because you buy them and [00:48:07] they're not serialized and all of a [00:48:09] sudden they just [00:48:10] where they go right all of these [00:48:14] poof [00:48:15] all of these events they say happen with [00:48:17] ghost guns we need to ban these and [00:48:18] actually not they're not happening with [00:48:21] ghost guns [00:48:22] a lot of these people who are committing [00:48:24] crimes probably don't even know how to [00:48:25] put them together honestly [00:48:28] um what what they're doing is they're [00:48:30] using ghost guns or untraceable [00:48:32] untraceable firearms [00:48:34] and they're using to leverage events [00:48:36] used by stolen firearms [00:48:40] do you see how it twists so a criminal [00:48:42] will steal [00:48:43] a firearm not a criminal [00:48:45] [Music] [00:48:46] like they followed the laws paige like [00:48:49] they forgot i forgot yes they pass a [00:48:51] background check they go through all of [00:48:53] that you're completely correct i forgot [00:48:55] they [00:48:56] steal these firearms they commit these [00:48:59] crimes and the [00:49:01] this administration that we're in says [00:49:03] those are a ghost gun it was stolen [00:49:05] that's a ghost gun we need to we need to [00:49:06] ban this we need to do universal [00:49:08] background checks we need to make uh gun [00:49:11] manufacturers liable [00:49:13] for the event that another person used [00:49:15] their tool for does that make any sense [00:49:19] no [00:49:20] and what's interesting is they do all [00:49:22] these things uh universal background [00:49:24] checks stricter background checks and [00:49:27] no matter what event happens with a [00:49:30] firearm [00:49:32] they push the same four to five agenda [00:49:36] points and they've done it since 2020 [00:49:38] and it has nothing to do with the event [00:49:41] but they want to push something and i'm [00:49:44] telling you right now the reason why [00:49:46] kendall and i are up here and will not [00:49:47] give an inch on the second amendment is [00:49:49] because once we say [00:49:51] okay [00:49:52] to one of these bills they are going to [00:49:54] run with it and all of you who raised [00:49:56] your hands who have a firearm or all of [00:49:59] you who want to train with a firearm no [00:50:00] longer can in america and that is some [00:50:03] bs [00:50:04] we need our firearms [00:50:09] and we talked about this earlier where [00:50:12] do most of these mass shootings happen [00:50:16] gun free zones gun freezes why do [00:50:20] criminals target these areas because [00:50:23] lawfully abiding citizens are going to [00:50:26] follow those laws and go in there [00:50:27] unarmed and they have no way to protect [00:50:30] themselves so they know it's an easy [00:50:32] target [00:50:33] and [00:50:34] what are these politicians protected by [00:50:38] where are all these celebrities that are [00:50:41] all about anti-gun what do their [00:50:43] security guards carry [00:50:46] how how do these mass shooters get [00:50:48] stopped [00:50:51] guns [00:50:52] law abiding citizens having guns and [00:50:55] arming themselves all of you who raised [00:50:57] your hand raise your hand again who have [00:50:58] a gun [00:51:00] educate yourself and arm yourself who is [00:51:03] going to go learn about firearm safety [00:51:06] i don't care take classes [00:51:08] i don't care if you don't want to carry [00:51:10] a gun or own a gun but don't take my [00:51:13] second amendment right away because you [00:51:16] feel like you don't need one that is a [00:51:18] very good argument to say [00:51:21] because when trouble happens and you [00:51:23] want to think you'll never be in that [00:51:25] situation what happens if you are you're [00:51:27] going to really hope someone there has a [00:51:29] gun to protect you [00:51:31] and what we will end with is if you are [00:51:33] nervous about firearms or don't really [00:51:35] know take the first step talk to us we [00:51:37] have incredible gun ambassadors here as [00:51:39] well um ask questions please don't be [00:51:42] afraid to ask questions about firearms i [00:51:45] love answering those questions and no [00:51:47] question is a dumb question i was about [00:51:49] to say that that's how i learned i [00:51:51] actually didn't get into shooting [00:51:53] pistols as much until a couple of years [00:51:56] ago they honestly kind of scared me a [00:51:57] little bit because i had never trained [00:51:59] with them i had never i was never really [00:52:01] educated on them and i actually went in [00:52:04] and started training and started [00:52:05] shooting and got way more confident with [00:52:08] myself and y'all i probably asked the [00:52:10] dumbest questions but if you have an [00:52:13] instructor who cares and wants to help [00:52:15] you get better they're going to answer [00:52:18] those questions there's literally no [00:52:19] dumb questions when it comes to your [00:52:21] safety and having a firearm and then you [00:52:23] have that information to arm yourself [00:52:28] and make the right decision on these [00:52:30] bills and i promise it'll make more and [00:52:32] more sense the more information you get [00:52:34] and the more hands-on you get with this [00:52:36] tool [00:52:37] because i promise they are made to [00:52:39] protect and they are made so that the [00:52:41] government does not have control over us [00:52:43] we have control over ourselves [00:52:50] well [00:52:51] i guess i think we're getting kicked off [00:52:53] stage but thank you guys so much for [00:52:55] listening [00:52:58] [Applause] [00:53:03] [Music] [00:53:09] [Music] [00:53:12] all right [00:53:15] i don't know about that [00:53:17] as you can tell i am not matt walsh but [00:53:19] good news he has landed and is in route [00:53:22] right now [00:53:27] but in the meantime i've been sent out [00:53:29] to tell some stories about things that [00:53:30] have happened to me as a turning point [00:53:32] contributor if you don't know who i am [00:53:33] my name is joe bob [00:53:36] and i am serious about that [00:53:39] uh [00:53:40] which the first thing i have to explain [00:53:41] always is [00:53:43] one grandparent was joe the other one [00:53:44] was bob [00:53:46] my parents could not figure out which [00:53:47] one to name me after [00:53:49] so they yolo'd and made high school very [00:53:51] difficult for this guy [00:53:56] uh i guarantee you i i have more teeth [00:53:58] than any joe bob you know uh [00:54:01] but that does explain how the uh [00:54:03] the brown guy got that hillbilly alabama [00:54:06] backwoods name [00:54:08] so been a turning point contributor for [00:54:11] she's about six months now [00:54:13] um [00:54:14] but before that i worked at this news i [00:54:16] still work at this news organization [00:54:18] called the daily caller anybody heard of [00:54:19] the daily caller [00:54:20] yeah [00:54:22] i have the honor and privilege of [00:54:23] hosting daily caller live if you don't [00:54:25] know this daily caller was founded by a [00:54:27] a little known talk show host by the [00:54:29] name of tucker carlson [00:54:34] that's good you guys you guys heard of [00:54:35] them [00:54:38] the one thing that i've learned with [00:54:39] working with journalists and i mean this [00:54:42] in the best way possible [00:54:44] is the journalists [00:54:46] are crazy people [00:54:48] and what i mean by that is they do [00:54:50] things that a lot of us won't do [00:54:53] i learned this in august of this year [00:54:56] while i was working for the daily caller [00:54:58] i got a text from a reporter [00:55:00] again in august of this year [00:55:03] that said hey [00:55:04] what are you doing on thursday [00:55:07] now we've all been here the ambiguous [00:55:09] open-ended text that doesn't tell you [00:55:11] what you're doing on thursday [00:55:14] now you have two options or you have two [00:55:16] outcomes [00:55:18] either you say oh i'm totally free but [00:55:20] then you're doing whatever it is that [00:55:22] they want you to do [00:55:23] there's no way out of it if you say oh [00:55:25] yeah i'm totally free [00:55:27] didn't want to say that because what if [00:55:29] he's like i need help moving or [00:55:32] refinishing my cabinets [00:55:34] or hiding this body or whatever it was [00:55:37] whatever it was i don't want to say that [00:55:39] i'm completely open but on the other [00:55:40] hand i don't want to say that i'm [00:55:42] completely not free because what if he [00:55:44] says [00:55:45] i have another ticket to america fest do [00:55:47] you want to come [00:55:49] yes yes i do want to do that [00:55:53] so i did what we all do and i left it [00:55:55] open ended back i said [00:55:58] not sure [00:56:00] what's up [00:56:03] we've all done this [00:56:05] i get a text back that was the most [00:56:06] bizarre text i've ever had in my entire [00:56:08] life it literally said and i kid you not [00:56:12] do you want to go to afghanistan [00:56:18] so to recap and i don't know if you [00:56:20] remember what was happening in [00:56:21] afghanistan in august of last year [00:56:24] anybody remember [00:56:28] so to recap i got a text message that [00:56:30] said do you want to go to afghanistan [00:56:34] on thursday [00:56:38] no [00:56:39] [Music] [00:56:41] what i wanted to say was what are you [00:56:42] crazy no but i can't say that right i [00:56:45] gotta be cool calm and collected these [00:56:47] are my colleagues so i texted back [00:56:51] what time [00:56:55] and he texted back does it matter [00:56:58] i said [00:56:59] no [00:57:00] i don't want to go to afghanistan i'm [00:57:03] fine sitting behind a desk making jokes [00:57:04] about the news [00:57:06] but one of the great things that i've [00:57:07] had to do that i've got to do with [00:57:08] turning point [00:57:10] is get out from behind the desks most [00:57:12] recently there was an event up in [00:57:14] berkeley where charlie was tabling on [00:57:16] the campus with the berkeley students [00:57:18] now one really interesting thing about [00:57:20] this yeah we can count but you can clap [00:57:22] for this [00:57:24] it was sold out they had to stop letting [00:57:25] people in in berkeley california to a [00:57:28] charlie kirk event [00:57:33] which is nuts [00:57:35] but that's how much of an impact turning [00:57:37] point and charlie have [00:57:39] now i was incognito undercover i don't [00:57:42] know if you'd seen the real [00:57:44] but i was talking to some people and one [00:57:46] of the most interesting things that [00:57:47] stood out at that berkeley rally [00:57:50] was this guy with a megaphone now [00:57:52] there's protesters at these sorts of [00:57:53] things the protesters decide to say [00:57:55] whatever it is they're gonna say but he [00:57:56] was yelling for an impressive amount of [00:57:58] time about how much he hated charlie and [00:58:01] turning point and everybody associated [00:58:05] but he said one thing that i thought was [00:58:08] hilarious [00:58:09] he got his megaphone got right up in [00:58:11] there and said [00:58:13] turning point usa has a website called [00:58:16] professor watch list [00:58:18] and they're trying to expose what [00:58:20] professors are teaching in the classroom [00:58:28] to which i said [00:58:31] correct [00:58:33] no arguments here [00:58:35] you got it [00:58:37] [Laughter] [00:58:38] um but it's been fascinating working [00:58:40] with turning point and working with [00:58:42] charlie i've also got to go do a couple [00:58:44] different shows [00:58:46] been on the canada zone show a couple [00:58:47] times [00:58:50] wow [00:58:51] you guys have heard of her too [00:58:53] interesting good [00:58:56] while i was on the kansas city show last [00:58:57] time we were trying to sort out the [00:58:59] craziness of the world as you can tell [00:59:02] the world has gotten crazy that's no [00:59:03] secret but there was a news story about [00:59:06] a transgender inmate in a woman's prison [00:59:08] that got two women pregnant in the jail [00:59:13] who could have seen that coming [00:59:16] besides all of us [00:59:20] but here's the thing when trying to [00:59:22] solve the problems of the world we have [00:59:24] to come up with solutions and i had a [00:59:26] suggestion i had a bipartisan suggestion [00:59:28] to solve the issue of transgender men in [00:59:31] female prisons [00:59:33] now bear with me you're not going to [00:59:34] like the first part of this [00:59:36] my solution is [00:59:39] we have taxpayer-funded [00:59:41] transition surgery for transgender [00:59:43] inmates now hold on stay with me before [00:59:46] you've grown [00:59:47] the left loves this sort of thing [00:59:48] they'll eat it all up they're like yes [00:59:51] more money for people who we call [00:59:53] marginalized people [00:59:55] but on the other hand [00:59:58] the next time an inmate says [01:00:01] hey guard [01:00:03] i think i'm a woman [01:00:06] the guard gets to say [01:00:08] all right [01:00:09] let's schedule your surgery [01:00:12] chop chop robert time to meet roberta [01:00:23] unfortunately i'm not entirely sure that [01:00:25] that solution would stand up to the [01:00:26] constitutional muster [01:00:30] so when talking about these we need [01:00:32] people like matt walsh asking the [01:00:35] important questions which is [01:00:39] i have no idea honestly [01:00:42] but the good news is i did watch matt [01:00:44] walsh's documentary [01:00:47] this week did anybody else anybody else [01:00:48] seen it already [01:00:51] and that question is answered so if you [01:00:53] are confused you can watch the [01:00:55] documentary itself now i want to play a [01:00:57] trailer i've been i'm being told that [01:00:59] matt walsh is literally in the car [01:01:01] pulling up or getting as close as he [01:01:03] possibly can i'm not going to tell you [01:01:04] where exactly is because i don't know [01:01:06] i've been on stage with you [01:01:08] but in the meantime i want to show you [01:01:09] the trailer if you haven't seen it [01:01:11] already [01:01:11] watch this it'll blow your mind [01:01:19] what is a woman [01:01:20] can you tell me that [01:01:24] oh you're at the women's march you must [01:01:25] have some idea please if one person can [01:01:27] tell me what a woman is you are not here [01:01:29] for women we ask you to leave what is [01:01:32] that [01:01:34] i'm a husband i'm a father for i host a [01:01:37] talk show i give speeches i write books [01:01:39] i like to make sense of things a woman [01:01:41] is not anything in particular there is [01:01:43] not one particular thing it could be [01:01:45] many things to many people some women [01:01:47] have penises right some men have vaginas [01:01:49] i like scented candles i've watched sex [01:01:51] in the city yeah how do i know if i'm a [01:01:53] woman that's a great question you're not [01:01:55] a scientist you're not a gender studies [01:01:57] major no how do you know that you're a [01:01:59] man i guess because i got a dick [01:02:05] can a man [01:02:06] become a woman [01:02:09] i'm not a woman so i [01:02:11] i can't really answer that women only [01:02:13] know what women are are you a cat no can [01:02:16] you tell me what a cat is [01:02:19] do you want to tell us what a woman is [01:02:23] i'm a biological woman [01:02:25] that medically transitioned to appear [01:02:27] like a male i will never [01:02:30] be a man and so they go on the internet [01:02:32] and they're told that all their problems [01:02:33] will be solved if they become a man so [01:02:36] you worry that there there could be a [01:02:38] sort of social contagion element of this [01:02:40] a teeny tiny bit maybe it got me at 42 [01:02:44] your child doesn't have a chance [01:02:48] and you're affirming it with hormones [01:02:51] that have never been used in this way [01:02:54] puberty blockers which are completely [01:02:56] reversible completely reversible one of [01:02:58] the drugs used is lupron right which [01:03:00] has actually been used to chemically [01:03:02] castrate sex again [01:03:04] you know what i'm not sure that we [01:03:06] should continue with this interview you [01:03:07] don't want to talk about the drugs that [01:03:09] you get to kids or [01:03:11] how can they be removing the healthy [01:03:13] breasts of 15 year old girls there are [01:03:15] masculine girls there are feminine boys [01:03:17] what are we going to do about that carve [01:03:19] them up how can this whole thing be [01:03:21] happening matt [01:03:23] i wanted us to have a safe place to be [01:03:26] able to talk about this part of me wants [01:03:28] to ask why you care so much i care about [01:03:30] the truth i care about children i care [01:03:32] about the women who are having their [01:03:33] opportunities stolen from them is it [01:03:35] transphobic to tell the truth the [01:03:37] interview is over show off the cameras [01:03:39] excuse me they're fair i just wanted to [01:03:41] know what is a woman and you're not [01:03:42] gonna find out based on what i'm saying [01:03:44] would you ever want to move to america [01:03:46] they say no [01:03:48] never [01:03:53] [Music] [01:03:59] i hope you enjoyed it a little bit [01:04:02] we'll see when it comes out [01:04:06] good news he is [01:04:08] in the building i believe trying to make [01:04:10] his way over to us [01:04:12] very very quickly [01:04:15] uh [01:04:16] i did however tell have been told we [01:04:18] were going to play one more clip and [01:04:19] then i have a hilarious story and i'll [01:04:20] get off the stage and out of yours but [01:04:22] let's go ahead and play that one more [01:04:24] clip from matt walsh's brand new [01:04:25] documentary [01:04:27] when was it decided that we need to [01:04:28] start teaching kids about this stuff at [01:04:30] such a young age so i'll answer that [01:04:32] with one word [01:04:34] kinsey [01:04:35] kinsey [01:04:36] was a [01:04:38] social [01:04:39] reformer [01:04:40] he wanted to [01:04:42] rid society of judeo-christian values [01:04:45] when it came to sexuality and he worked [01:04:48] very hard to do that and [01:04:51] i would say he [01:04:52] succeeded kinsey would be very happy [01:04:55] with our culture today [01:04:57] his idea was that children are sexual [01:04:59] from birth [01:05:01] that were all inherently sexual [01:05:02] creatures from cradle to grave he [01:05:05] believed that true happiness is found in [01:05:07] a life of perverse sexual [01:05:09] experimentation no matter the age what [01:05:11] came out is that his research was [01:05:14] fraudulent [01:05:15] kinsey based his fraudulent conclusions [01:05:17] on data he collected from convicted sex [01:05:19] offenders and child molesters his [01:05:21] research was conducted in prisons not [01:05:23] everyday america [01:05:24] he also performed horrific sexual [01:05:26] experiments on children some under the [01:05:29] age of one [01:05:31] his most influential book sexual [01:05:32] behavior in human mail [01:05:34] contains an infamous chart called table [01:05:36] 34 which documents the orgasms of very [01:05:39] young kids including babies as young as [01:05:41] five months old [01:05:43] but instead of suffering the [01:05:44] consequences for his heinous actions he [01:05:46] was and still is celebrated by academia [01:05:49] and hollywood his ideas form the [01:05:51] foundation for sexual education in [01:05:53] public schools today [01:05:56] geez [01:05:59] yikes [01:06:01] wasn't being totally in the building i [01:06:03] do get to tell you this one very quick [01:06:04] story that i think you might actually [01:06:06] enjoy it doesn't have anything to do [01:06:07] with this unfortunately but i think it's [01:06:08] a [01:06:09] one of the most [01:06:11] interesting days of my entire life in a [01:06:13] previous life i was a photographer i [01:06:15] still do photography i like taking [01:06:17] photos of things [01:06:19] i was sitting on the couch one day and i [01:06:21] get a phone call from a guy who i knew [01:06:23] who worked in politics [01:06:25] he said are you busy this afternoon i [01:06:27] said no i'm a photographer i'm basically [01:06:29] unemployed [01:06:32] he said great can you get to orange [01:06:33] county california i live right around [01:06:35] near orange county california yeah [01:06:38] can you get to orange county uh by 4 p.m [01:06:42] i looked my clock i didn't have anything [01:06:43] to do and i said okay then he said the [01:06:47] weirdest thing i think i've ever heard [01:06:48] on a [01:06:50] phone call he said wear a suit and text [01:06:52] me your social security number [01:06:56] then he hung up the phone [01:06:59] so i texted my social security number [01:07:03] i need the money [01:07:06] and i throw on the only suit that i have [01:07:07] and i drive my car and i go to the [01:07:09] address that he had sent me [01:07:11] and i [01:07:12] park and he pulls up in a golf cart [01:07:15] driven by somebody else [01:07:17] i get on the back of the golf cart with [01:07:18] my camera in hand [01:07:20] i said dude [01:07:22] where are we going what is going on [01:07:24] he said [01:07:26] i had an emergency and a cancellation [01:07:29] and i need you [01:07:30] to take step and repeat photos of the [01:07:33] president of the united states of [01:07:35] america [01:07:39] this is [01:07:40] this is a true story well mostly [01:07:42] something is added for comedic effect [01:07:46] but i'm like what [01:07:48] we go down a small pathway and i'm [01:07:51] introduced to a secret service member by [01:07:52] the name of stan [01:07:54] stan shows me to this room i walk into a [01:07:57] room and stan explains what's going on [01:07:59] he says the president's going to come in [01:08:01] through here the vips are going to go [01:08:02] through here you're going to shuffle [01:08:03] them through [01:08:05] and when you're all done the president [01:08:06] will leave [01:08:07] and i need you to wait right here [01:08:10] i said okay [01:08:12] i said what if i stand right here [01:08:16] you guys gonna shoot me [01:08:19] probably [01:08:22] i said okay a couple minutes later [01:08:25] in walks president trump [01:08:28] [Applause] [01:08:33] three hours ago [01:08:35] i was trying to figure out if i wanted [01:08:36] to have my third bag of doritos while [01:08:38] sitting on my couch in my underwear [01:08:42] and now i'm in the room [01:08:44] with the leader of the free world [01:08:47] and it was a surreal moment i'm not sure [01:08:51] if they got the picture i said i tried [01:08:52] to send a picture i do have a picture [01:08:53] that exists of don't pull it up yet [01:08:56] but [01:08:57] unbelievable experience he walks in the [01:09:00] room he says hello i say hello he asks [01:09:02] how my day is doing super polite guy and [01:09:06] everything starts it was a blur honestly [01:09:09] the vips would come in we would take a [01:09:11] photo they would walk out take a photo [01:09:13] and walk out [01:09:14] i feel like we had a moment because [01:09:16] everybody who takes a photo with [01:09:17] president trump [01:09:18] tries to make a dumb joke to him [01:09:22] and then we kind of locked eyes and like [01:09:23] yeah that's a dumb joke [01:09:26] it's like we had a couple moments [01:09:28] together [01:09:30] but the whole thing was a blur and it [01:09:33] ended immediately like what i thought it [01:09:36] went by like that [01:09:39] so the people go through president trump [01:09:41] leaves the room and i'm left standing in [01:09:43] this room by myself going what in the [01:09:47] world just happened [01:09:50] my first thought is [01:09:51] i gotta call my wife [01:09:53] because at this point this was so sudden [01:09:55] i hadn't told her yet i hadn't told [01:09:57] anybody yet [01:09:59] oh my poor wife [01:10:02] so i pick up the phone and i call [01:10:03] crystal [01:10:05] my wife's name [01:10:06] and i say [01:10:08] babe [01:10:09] you are never going to believe what just [01:10:12] happened [01:10:14] she says [01:10:15] what happened [01:10:18] i say [01:10:20] i just shot [01:10:22] [Applause] [01:10:24] the president of the united states of [01:10:27] america [01:10:28] [Applause] [01:10:35] admittedly i could have used [01:10:37] some different words [01:10:40] but that's the terminology in [01:10:42] photography [01:10:44] it gets worse [01:10:47] as i said that [01:10:49] stan the secret serviceman [01:10:53] walks into the room [01:10:55] and i [01:10:56] say oh shoot babe sorry i gotta go the [01:10:59] secret service is here to get me [01:11:02] and i hang up the phone [01:11:07] and that is the story of the most [01:11:08] interesting day of my entire life [01:11:18] uh i'm not entirely sure if they want me [01:11:19] to continue on or we're going to play [01:11:20] one more clip of the matt walsh movie uh [01:11:23] i would i wish there was a voice over [01:11:25] the head telling me what to do [01:11:28] nope [01:11:31] uh i think we what's up oh wrap up okay [01:11:34] cool so i'm gonna wrap it up [01:11:37] uh thank you guys so much for for [01:11:38] enduring my musings [01:11:42] i appreciate it my name is joe bob [01:11:46] i'm not sure if i get your news but this [01:11:47] is going to be a great night thank you [01:11:49] all so much [01:11:51] [Applause] [01:11:52] [Music] [01:12:04] is [01:12:06] [Music] [01:12:20] down [01:12:59] do you [01:13:28] myself [01:13:30] [Music] [01:13:40] give it up for matt how great is matt [01:13:42] thank you [01:13:47] so matt i figured there's no better kind [01:13:49] of venue to ask what is a woman [01:13:53] yeah i think uh i've been to the women's [01:13:55] march and they didn't know there but i [01:13:56] think this is probably a different crowd [01:13:57] from the women's march so [01:14:02] and and no better two people to talk [01:14:04] about what is a woman than two men at a [01:14:05] women's conference exactly [01:14:08] exactly well someone has to talk about [01:14:09] it that's that's that's the thing that's [01:14:11] a conversation someone has to have so i [01:14:13] mean let's just start at the basics tell [01:14:14] us about your film and did you actually [01:14:16] get an answer to your your question [01:14:18] that's a spoiler i can't give spoilers [01:14:20] away right here [01:14:21] on on this stage but uh [01:14:24] we did give we did get an answer i guess [01:14:25] i can't say what the answer is but we [01:14:26] did finally after after journeying [01:14:29] across the entire world [01:14:31] um i finally [01:14:33] i guess i will give it away i finally [01:14:34] thought to just go into the [01:14:36] into the kitchen and ask my wife and [01:14:37] then she was able to [01:14:39] she was able to provide the answer so i [01:14:41] went to africa before i thought to talk [01:14:42] to my wife about it [01:14:44] um [01:14:46] but yeah it's been it's been an [01:14:47] incredible reception to the film so far [01:14:49] and this was look what i keep telling [01:14:50] the left is that uh because they're very [01:14:52] upset about it and they [01:14:54] i mean they've been pulling all kinds of [01:14:55] tricks to shut the film down they they [01:14:57] had a ddos attack which i just learned [01:15:00] what that is but it's a it's some kind [01:15:01] of [01:15:02] fancy technical thing where they try to [01:15:03] shut down websites and they did that to [01:15:05] shut down the premiere and it failed and [01:15:06] everything and of course it only it only [01:15:08] brings more attention to the film in the [01:15:09] first place so it all backfires but what [01:15:11] i keep telling them is that [01:15:13] you know i've been asking what is a [01:15:15] woman [01:15:17] i was asking it on twitter like four [01:15:18] years ago all you had to do was respond [01:15:20] to my tweet and none of this had to [01:15:22] happen but this is really all your fault [01:15:26] so matt i grew up in a time where [01:15:29] the feminists weren't just clear about [01:15:31] what a woman was they were angry if you [01:15:33] disagreed like of course you know what a [01:15:35] woman is it's very clear and in fact [01:15:37] that wasn't that long ago i mean we had [01:15:39] brett kavanaugh we had the me too [01:15:40] movement where not only was it you know [01:15:44] you weren't allowed to disagree on what [01:15:45] a woman was but all men were awful and [01:15:47] we could kind of distinguish lines how [01:15:48] do we get to a place where [01:15:50] now kind of in the zeitgeist and in kind [01:15:53] of the popular culture [01:15:54] this is now somehow a question how do we [01:15:56] get here [01:15:58] you know it's something it feels like it [01:16:00] happened uh five years ago i think a lot [01:16:02] of people think that it just kind of all [01:16:04] of a sudden [01:16:05] sprang out of nowhere and i i think [01:16:08] probably five six years ago is when it [01:16:09] is when it [01:16:10] made its way into the mainstream but [01:16:13] this is something we get into this in [01:16:14] the film and and uh a lot of people [01:16:15] don't know the background in the history [01:16:17] of this but this is something that's [01:16:18] been bubbling under the surface uh [01:16:20] making its way into the institutions in [01:16:23] this country [01:16:24] for [01:16:25] half a century at least um and we get [01:16:27] into some names everybody should know [01:16:29] names like alfred kinsey and john money [01:16:32] i mean these are the guys like you can [01:16:33] actually find the people who invented [01:16:35] this stuff there's there are they wrote [01:16:37] things where they just came up with this [01:16:39] stuff for example uh the term gender [01:16:41] identity [01:16:42] there was a guy who just came up with [01:16:44] that his name was john money who also [01:16:45] happened to be a pedophile by the way a [01:16:46] lot of these people were um total [01:16:48] coincidence by the way yeah total [01:16:49] coincidence right obviously [01:16:52] um [01:16:52] and they we know that gender idols have [01:16:55] have a great interest in in grooming [01:16:56] children and it just so happens all this [01:16:58] stuff comes from pedophiles so but yeah [01:17:00] total coincidence that's a conspiracy [01:17:01] theory um [01:17:03] it started there and then it kind of it [01:17:05] made its way into the institutions and [01:17:07] it's like critical race theory where [01:17:09] they you know what we hear with critical [01:17:10] race theory is well that's only and [01:17:12] that's only only they only talk about [01:17:13] that in colleges [01:17:15] well yeah it might start there but then [01:17:18] it goes from there [01:17:19] uh down into the lower grades and down [01:17:21] into the rest of society and the same [01:17:23] thing happened with gender theory [01:17:24] basically yeah but how did it get where [01:17:26] the feminists used to be kind of loudest [01:17:27] part of the american left and now [01:17:29] they're either been neutralized or [01:17:31] they've been silenced or they no longer [01:17:34] have a seat at the table that that's [01:17:35] what i'm still trying to figure out and [01:17:37] maybe it's just a matter of volume or [01:17:39] what's most useful to the kind of [01:17:40] current narrative or regime yeah i think [01:17:42] a lot of it is the consequence of [01:17:45] intersectionality and the rules of kind [01:17:47] of the [01:17:47] kind of the the victim hierarchy on the [01:17:50] left which is a very confusing thing i [01:17:52] don't fully understand it myself but [01:17:54] it's there's a lot of jostling for [01:17:55] position [01:17:56] and right now anyway the kind of uber [01:18:00] victims are the trans people and you [01:18:03] have the most victim points if you're [01:18:04] trans and uh if you're on the left you [01:18:07] have to if somebody with more victim [01:18:09] points than you is making a rights claim [01:18:11] a claim to some kind of right you have [01:18:13] to defer to them and that's the position [01:18:15] that women are in right now now we will [01:18:17] we should note that [01:18:19] while many feminists have just gone [01:18:20] along with this and i i doubt that any [01:18:22] of them agree with it but most many of [01:18:24] them have gone along with it there is a [01:18:25] core of feminists who [01:18:27] you know are derisively named the uh the [01:18:29] turfs the trans exclusionary radical [01:18:30] feminists who have spoken out about it [01:18:32] but they've been just very viciously [01:18:35] shouted down and it is a small group [01:18:36] yeah and especially you kind of look [01:18:38] amongst the opinion makers right new [01:18:40] york times harvard aclu they they [01:18:43] there's no place for that in those kind [01:18:45] of main opinion shaping institutions can [01:18:47] and else can i say one other thing [01:18:49] quickly about that too because one uh [01:18:52] accusation that we've gotten since this [01:18:54] film came out [01:18:55] from the uh i guess what they would call [01:18:58] themselves gender critical feminists the [01:18:59] feminists who are actually opposed to [01:19:01] gender ideology they said well why [01:19:02] didn't you have anyone from why didn't [01:19:04] you have anyone on our side in the film [01:19:06] why didn't you talk to any to any [01:19:07] feminist [01:19:08] and the answer is like we tried to we [01:19:10] reached out to many prominent feminists [01:19:12] who have been critical i'm not going to [01:19:13] name names [01:19:14] but uh many prominent feminists were [01:19:16] critical of the trans agenda we reached [01:19:17] out and they wanted nothing to do with [01:19:19] it whatsoever [01:19:20] so that's another way that this this [01:19:22] small group of feminists they're kind of [01:19:23] shooting themselves in the foot because [01:19:24] they don't want to [01:19:26] be allies with like the likes of me so [01:19:29] they leave themselves on an island [01:19:31] basically to try to save womanhood minor [01:19:33] details and but this is all kind of goes [01:19:35] back to the main feminist complaint [01:19:36] though right which is that men are going [01:19:38] to oppress women [01:19:39] and so now that's exactly what's [01:19:40] happening now is that oppressing women [01:19:43] and so the entire thing seems so [01:19:44] interesting and just kind of befuddling [01:19:46] and puzzling so [01:19:48] obviously we have a women's summit here [01:19:50] we could define what a woman is but the [01:19:52] problem also matt is in recent years [01:19:55] especially the kind of nastiness that is [01:19:58] now embedded in this discussion and this [01:20:00] debate it's almost become a value debate [01:20:03] that you're an awful person if you do [01:20:05] not accept that gender is nothing more [01:20:07] than a social construct and it almost in [01:20:10] some ways and especially in recent [01:20:12] months i'd say the last six months it's [01:20:14] almost become more intense than the [01:20:16] racial debate where that this is so [01:20:19] why is it that it gets such a preference [01:20:21] i know you mentioned the oppression [01:20:22] olympics and kind of the competition of [01:20:24] whoever can be the most depressed person [01:20:26] which changes on a day-to-day basis but [01:20:28] they see it's only they see an [01:20:30] opportunity here what what do they think [01:20:32] that's going to get them [01:20:34] i think the viciousness comes from a [01:20:36] couple things first of all how important [01:20:39] this agenda is to them it's not just [01:20:40] about gender and even the word gender [01:20:43] has been expanded to include [01:20:45] you know anything there are people now [01:20:46] if you look on tick tock people say well [01:20:48] my gender is uh what's the latest one [01:20:50] i'm cake gender that's that's a thing [01:20:52] now i could be the gender of cake right [01:20:54] why we talked to someone whose gender [01:20:56] was in the film we talked to someone [01:20:57] identifies as a wolf you know [01:20:59] um [01:21:00] so the the term gender has expanded [01:21:02] because it's not just about it's not [01:21:04] just about gender this is actually about [01:21:07] um this is the project of relativism [01:21:09] this is about having your own [01:21:11] universe and we i ran into this and i [01:21:13] know you've run into it anytime you talk [01:21:15] about anything with the left you always [01:21:16] run into this and in the film it was [01:21:18] over and over again every conversation [01:21:19] we tried to have [01:21:20] it always came back to well [01:21:23] uh whose truth are you are we talking [01:21:25] about who's who's truth and i would try [01:21:27] to say well there's we're sitting in the [01:21:29] same room right now right so the truth [01:21:30] that says we're sitting in the same room [01:21:32] i'm sitting across from you so we [01:21:34] obviously have some kind of shared [01:21:36] reality two plus two equals four we [01:21:38] share that with each other [01:21:39] but they cannot [01:21:41] concede that i think one of the moments [01:21:43] in the film that haunts me the most [01:21:45] although it's kind of funny when you [01:21:46] watch it but i still i'm still blown [01:21:48] away with it by it there was a i was [01:21:50] talking to just a normal person walking [01:21:52] down the street well this is in los [01:21:54] angeles so they can only be so normal i [01:21:55] guess but [01:21:56] uh we're talking to this woman and she [01:21:58] and she said um you know we all have our [01:22:00] own truth [01:22:01] and i said okay well [01:22:02] what if my truth is that you don't exist [01:22:06] and she looked me dead in the eyes and [01:22:07] said well then i don't exist [01:22:10] not a joke either so i [01:22:12] i knew that women were being erased i [01:22:14] didn't realize they were erasing [01:22:15] themselves so eagerly [01:22:17] but that's [01:22:18] when someone is desperate to cling on to [01:22:20] this relativistic idea they will there [01:22:23] is no depth that they won't sing to in [01:22:25] terms of assertiveness i want to explore [01:22:26] that more with you so that really is [01:22:28] what it comes down to the the [01:22:29] post-modernist deconstructionist [01:22:32] that there's we can't agree that a line [01:22:34] is straight because it's only your [01:22:36] opinion that it's straight is the main [01:22:38] critique of western society because they [01:22:41] were to say that western society is [01:22:42] better because there might be some [01:22:44] aboriginal you know culture that we [01:22:46] haven't really studied yet and we're not [01:22:49] supposed to ever believe [01:22:51] you know in the fruits of the [01:22:52] enlightenment or separation of powers [01:22:53] consent to the governed or gender norms [01:22:55] because those are colonialists in nature [01:22:57] and first of all it's a patently insane [01:23:00] thing to believe but isn't it kind of a [01:23:02] luxury belief though [01:23:03] matt and i'm i believe you're familiar [01:23:06] with the term which and just so everyone [01:23:08] knows a luxury belief [01:23:10] is a hypothesis i can't remember the [01:23:12] guy's name he's really smart and his [01:23:15] argument is that rich people no longer [01:23:17] just buy rich like not like wealthy [01:23:19] things like yachts and planes but they [01:23:22] also buy beliefs [01:23:23] and that if you want to be really cool [01:23:25] in upper society [01:23:27] it's not just how big your car is it's [01:23:29] how insane of an idea you discuss at a [01:23:30] cocktail party yeah it's and so you [01:23:33] think about it it's super rich people [01:23:34] where it's not like oh yeah i have the [01:23:36] new porsche and a gulf stream it's also [01:23:39] like [01:23:40] not only do i want to get rid of the [01:23:41] police i want to put them all in prison [01:23:43] like i'll drink to that that's great how [01:23:45] much of this is luxury belief driven i [01:23:46] mean like lower middle class people [01:23:48] aren't talking about this stuff don't [01:23:49] have time to think about it because you [01:23:50] have real you have real problems you [01:23:52] have to worry about i think and i do [01:23:54] think that there's a lot of just sort of [01:23:55] boredom so we can talk about the [01:23:56] sinister things that lie at the bottom [01:23:58] of this but there's also just boredom [01:24:00] people sitting around that have the time [01:24:01] to think about kind of navel gazing [01:24:04] this is what we do in the west a lot we [01:24:05] just sit around thinking about [01:24:08] i'm going to think about myself and how [01:24:10] do i feel about how do i how i feel [01:24:12] about myself and then we spent all this [01:24:14] time just staring at our own reflections [01:24:16] and then we and then we were shocked [01:24:17] when people have anxiety and depression [01:24:19] well this is what happens when this is [01:24:20] you spent your whole life like just go [01:24:22] outside and look at a tree or something [01:24:24] or just walk down the street stop [01:24:25] thinking about yourself for five seconds [01:24:27] but on the the luxury belief thing [01:24:29] we [01:24:30] we tested this in the film um because [01:24:32] you're right that the claim on the left [01:24:34] is that the the gen the so-called gender [01:24:36] binary is western colonialism and that [01:24:39] if you go outside the western colonial [01:24:41] bubble you'll find that they're all very [01:24:44] progressive in their gender ideas [01:24:46] right and so that's why that is why we [01:24:48] went to africa [01:24:49] because i kept hearing i could figure [01:24:51] out in the trailer why he's in some [01:24:52] african trump like what is the point of [01:24:54] this [01:24:55] we want to have let me just clarify we [01:24:57] went to africa number one to troll the [01:25:00] libs like that's the number one reason [01:25:01] we were there [01:25:03] um that's true missionary work by the [01:25:05] way let me just be [01:25:08] so and we we had security meetings [01:25:10] before this africa trip and they said [01:25:11] you know [01:25:12] like you're going into kenya it's pretty [01:25:14] safe but they've got terrorists there [01:25:15] you could get kidnapped and [01:25:17] it's like i'm it's it's worth it to own [01:25:19] the libs i will i will give my life for [01:25:21] this cause i will [01:25:23] um [01:25:24] anyway [01:25:25] the real reason we went there was to [01:25:27] test this hypothesis on the left [01:25:30] uh about whether or not it's true that [01:25:32] the gender binary is a western contract [01:25:34] and what we found is that well [01:25:36] actually when you get outside of the [01:25:37] western bubble [01:25:39] all there is is the so-called binary and [01:25:41] they have never even heard of any of [01:25:43] this stuff we're talking about in the [01:25:44] west [01:25:45] and then it and then it flipped into [01:25:46] this really interesting thing because [01:25:48] i'm talk we went down we talked to the [01:25:50] messiah tribe in kenya and they live in [01:25:52] in huts that are made of cow dung and [01:25:54] they're they're semi-nomadic they don't [01:25:55] have electricity or anything it's it's [01:25:56] you know they're living in the [01:25:57] wilderness [01:25:58] and uh we're talking to them and and i'm [01:26:00] asking them these questions about [01:26:03] well can a man become a woman [01:26:05] you know can women does is it possible [01:26:07] for a woman to have a penis can men give [01:26:09] birth to babies and they're looking at [01:26:10] me in just utter horror and confusion [01:26:13] and [01:26:14] they also [01:26:15] assume that i believe this stuff myself [01:26:17] i never explained to them i didn't [01:26:19] right that's the funniest point the part [01:26:21] is that matt's just staring at them and [01:26:23] they're they're starting to they're [01:26:24] starting to circle you yeah like they're [01:26:25] calling in reinforcements and then they [01:26:27] and then they start weapons start [01:26:29] emerging exactly well they all had their [01:26:30] uh you know they had certain like clubs [01:26:32] that they walked around with beers [01:26:34] uh but [01:26:36] then i was i was in this interesting [01:26:38] position where they were wanting me [01:26:40] and they were all very patient like they [01:26:42] were treating me like i'm a confused [01:26:43] child and they said let we'll spray [01:26:45] explain this to you but then they wanted [01:26:47] me to explain these ideas to them and [01:26:50] then it's actually very revealing [01:26:52] when you try to explain an idea to [01:26:54] someone who's never heard of it before [01:26:57] that's when you can really see if this [01:26:59] idea makes any sense at all [01:27:01] because this is someone who does not [01:27:02] have any of the shared kind of [01:27:04] frameworks that we do none of the shared [01:27:06] biases none of that [01:27:07] and so you're starting at ground zero [01:27:09] can i explain [01:27:11] gender fluidity to this tribal [01:27:14] community from ground zero and the [01:27:16] answer is no it's just total nonsense [01:27:19] they don't even have the words like i'm [01:27:21] i'm talking to uh [01:27:23] you know the elder in the tribe through [01:27:25] a translator [01:27:26] and he doesn't have the word i tried to [01:27:28] get him to ask the tribal elder about [01:27:31] non-binary people [01:27:32] and he says he says what he doesn't have [01:27:34] the words for that so [01:27:36] they literally don't have the words to [01:27:37] even talk about these things it's that [01:27:39] far outside of their experience [01:27:41] we'll keep chatting i think we have a [01:27:43] clip that i want to show from that if [01:27:44] our team could get it just a short clip [01:27:47] so if you guys could pull that up and [01:27:48] tell me when it's ready but matt that's [01:27:49] so interesting because that is you know [01:27:51] a common critique i go to berkeley in [01:27:53] boulder and you speak at all the same [01:27:54] campuses as well and they'll always say [01:27:56] no the problem is the western colonial [01:27:59] framework that if you break people back [01:28:01] in the state of nature [01:28:03] and especially in tribes is actually one [01:28:05] they use [01:28:06] especially kind of the breakup of kind [01:28:08] of colonial [01:28:10] or i guess colonial breakup of [01:28:12] indigenous people in africa then there [01:28:14] really is no such thing as these gender [01:28:16] norms and they repeat it with such [01:28:19] kind of [01:28:20] intensity that you almost it almost [01:28:22] takes you back and they also [01:28:24] they can make these claims because they [01:28:26] don't think anyone will be crazy enough [01:28:27] to actually go ask any of these people [01:28:29] these questions and even though i did [01:28:31] this the rejoinder now from the left has [01:28:33] been [01:28:34] well you only talk to one primitive [01:28:36] african tribe [01:28:38] and i'm like dude you can go talk to [01:28:39] some more yourself like go ahead bring a [01:28:41] camera crew find a different tribe in [01:28:43] africa and ask them all about gender [01:28:45] fluidity and go ahead prove me wrong [01:28:48] because this is this is all an insular [01:28:51] like you said luxury [01:28:53] uniquely western belief and also very [01:28:56] modern that is not shared by anyone and [01:28:58] that includes by the way [01:28:59] um [01:29:00] some of these uh some of these cultures [01:29:02] where they where they'll claim here's [01:29:04] another one [01:29:05] they'll say well native americans have [01:29:07] two spirit and they actually have added [01:29:08] two spirit to the lgbt [01:29:11] acronym now on the ever expanding [01:29:12] acronym they now have they have numbers [01:29:14] in it now for two s for two spirit right [01:29:16] so [01:29:17] that's what they say they say well [01:29:18] native americans they have two spirits [01:29:19] that's just like trans [01:29:21] all you do is take 10 seconds to google [01:29:22] this stuff and you discover that two [01:29:24] spirit that term was coined guess what [01:29:26] guess when [01:29:27] 1990 is when they came up with that it [01:29:29] was lgbt activist and that is they make [01:29:30] it sound like this is something that the [01:29:33] the cheyenne were talking about or the [01:29:35] sue or the iroquois right right [01:29:37] yeah the apache on the great plains in [01:29:39] 1801 were like running around talking [01:29:42] about their fluid genders no this is [01:29:44] lgbt activists made this up [01:29:46] recently and now are claiming that this [01:29:48] is some cultural belief so i want to [01:29:51] start to kind of participate in some [01:29:53] thought crimes with you here does anyone [01:29:55] want that i think that would be a lot of [01:29:56] fun [01:29:57] so [01:29:59] it's pride month i guess whatever that [01:30:02] is so [01:30:04] why is it matt let's start [01:30:06] non-controversially and then we can go [01:30:08] whatever direction you want [01:30:10] why is it that all of a sudden that you [01:30:13] know mental illness is associated with [01:30:15] the other letters where does it fit i've [01:30:17] never heard a good explanation you're [01:30:19] starting non-controversially with that [01:30:20] question oh that's that's that's the [01:30:22] non-controversial okay we're getting [01:30:23] real [01:30:24] um [01:30:26] well i think there's a couple things [01:30:27] going on with with mental illness in [01:30:28] particular is that for one thing this [01:30:30] has become like mental illness itself [01:30:32] has become uh trendy and fashionable and [01:30:35] it's something that is is [01:30:38] are we applauding mental illness being [01:30:40] trendy and fashionable they're they're [01:30:42] agreeing with okay all right [01:30:44] yeah you go mental illness um [01:30:48] so it's become this trendy fashionable [01:30:50] thing and this is uh i was first made [01:30:53] aware of this like so many other things [01:30:55] of libs of tick tock who by the way is [01:30:56] one of the best journalists in the [01:30:57] country um [01:30:59] yeah [01:31:00] and she's posting these these videos [01:31:02] that this is a big thing on tick tock of [01:31:04] of of people especially young people [01:31:05] claiming that they have uh split [01:31:07] personality disorder [01:31:08] and uh talking about their other [01:31:11] personalities like their people in the [01:31:13] room with them which by the way if that [01:31:16] disorder exists that's not how it works [01:31:19] okay in the first place but this just [01:31:21] shows you something with this another [01:31:22] thing that on the right we see that and [01:31:24] we we want to say well that's just a [01:31:26] sideshow that's that's nothing that's [01:31:29] no this is this is tick tock this is [01:31:30] where kids spend their whole lives and [01:31:33] so this is not nothing and it actually [01:31:35] shows you something about especially [01:31:36] youth culture where the more mental [01:31:39] illnesses you can rack up sort of the [01:31:40] more social credit you have yeah so by [01:31:43] the mental illness obviously meant you [01:31:45] know gender dysphoria transgenderism all [01:31:46] that which is a serious mental condition [01:31:48] how did that get married into the entire [01:31:51] now extended alphabet soup of lgbtqia [01:31:54] plus i mean it's it's an increasingly [01:31:58] you know confusing thing for people yeah [01:32:00] it is it's a good question that so you [01:32:02] can follow [01:32:03] the process of this happening [01:32:05] um [01:32:06] and there's [01:32:07] you have to look also at the psychiatric [01:32:09] industry and there's a lot of uh [01:32:11] they're complicit in this and that's but [01:32:12] they're part of the process where first [01:32:14] you can see this process play out where [01:32:16] first there's something like uh we call [01:32:18] now gender dysphoria i think before [01:32:21] it was referred to as body dysmorphia [01:32:23] now they don't use that term anymore and [01:32:26] the problem i believe with body [01:32:27] dysmorphia if that was the old term is [01:32:29] that it made it sound like there's [01:32:30] something [01:32:31] wrong with you and and the reason they [01:32:33] emphasize gender dysmorphia now is that [01:32:35] what they're saying is well the problem [01:32:37] is how you feel [01:32:39] you know that's the issue it's like if [01:32:40] you [01:32:41] if you feel like there's a incongruence [01:32:44] between your body and [01:32:45] your true self then your feelings are [01:32:48] the issue and we can fix the feelings by [01:32:49] fixing your body but anyway [01:32:51] what you find from the psychiatric [01:32:53] community is that they take these things [01:32:54] and they kind of legitimize them first [01:32:57] and then they're kind of introduced into [01:32:59] the lgbt equation this also happens by [01:33:01] the way with not just mental conditions [01:33:03] also physical conditions like the [01:33:05] intersex is a great example so now the [01:33:08] new the new pride flag is uh the pride [01:33:10] flag just gets uglier and uglier by the [01:33:12] year right [01:33:13] and and now it's like it's just this [01:33:15] hideous gaudy [01:33:16] thing with all these random colors and [01:33:18] symbols too and symbols and the most [01:33:21] prominent symbol on the whole flag now [01:33:22] the newest flag the one that nascar [01:33:24] tweeted out because they're on the [01:33:25] cutting edge of walkness actually [01:33:27] is um [01:33:28] is the one that has a purple circle [01:33:30] right there it's the it's the one it's [01:33:31] the thing your eyes home in on and that [01:33:33] that's for intersex so now intersex are [01:33:36] the most prominent members of the algae [01:33:38] what do they even have to do with lgbt [01:33:40] that's a that's a genetic [01:33:42] deformity what does that in the world [01:33:44] have to do with being lgbt so i guess [01:33:46] the answer is intersectionality right i [01:33:48] mean if it's so that's my 15-minute [01:33:50] answer to get around to yeah i mean i [01:33:52] suppose it's just and then but the whole [01:33:54] idea of gay and lesbian is that i am a [01:33:57] certain you know sex and i'm attracted [01:34:00] to that same sex which does at least [01:34:02] acknowledge binary sex it doesn't kind [01:34:04] of play into gender fluidity and yet it [01:34:06] all kind of gets mashed together which i [01:34:08] guess i guess comes back to the general [01:34:09] theme of the kind of intersectional [01:34:12] argument by the way the nascar thing [01:34:14] i i really am i'm wondering what [01:34:15] percentage of nascar's audience do you [01:34:17] think [01:34:18] is gay [01:34:20] zero [01:34:21] percent but 0.001 maybe i don't know i [01:34:24] mean it's [01:34:26] who are they [01:34:27] at some point you have to ask the [01:34:28] question [01:34:29] this probably makes you lose your target [01:34:32] audience yeah well it's also it's an [01:34:33] even smaller items what percentage of [01:34:35] the nascar audience is gay and [01:34:37] um [01:34:39] would fly the pride flag you know [01:34:40] because that's that's not always one and [01:34:42] the same right [01:34:43] uh and and that's but this is what [01:34:45] happens and the problem is [01:34:47] these corporations they [01:34:49] intentionally alienate 99 of their fans [01:34:51] and and supporters [01:34:53] and yet the 99 still give give them [01:34:55] their money we're very loathe to say [01:34:57] well you know what i'm not going to give [01:34:58] you my money anymore if you don't if [01:34:59] you're not interested in it i mean look [01:35:01] at like you know this is often a tangent [01:35:03] but but star wars okay [01:35:05] um like what's the new star wars show [01:35:09] obi-wan right okay so first of all there [01:35:11] hasn't been a good star wars [01:35:14] story actually ever because all the [01:35:16] movies are terrible but thank you [01:35:18] [Applause] [01:35:20] i could get a group of women to agree [01:35:22] with me on that one [01:35:23] a new hope is very good okay let's just [01:35:25] episode 4. at [01:35:28] the last wood good one was in like 1983. [01:35:31] and everything was well i think this was [01:35:32] 78 and the hope came out you could [01:35:34] fact-check me so it's been it's been [01:35:36] decades and decades and then they come [01:35:37] out with this obi-wan show and they've [01:35:39] got a character who's a black woman and [01:35:42] the fans hate her and you can and you [01:35:44] can [01:35:44] read their criticisms they they hate her [01:35:46] because she's an unlikable character [01:35:48] poorly written and poorly acted not [01:35:49] because she's black and but it's this [01:35:51] kind of entrapment that these studios do [01:35:53] and they know they're they're putting [01:35:54] these unlikable characters out there the [01:35:56] fans react to it and then star wars [01:35:58] turns around and calls their own fan [01:35:59] base racist and you you and mcgregor [01:36:01] comes out and says ah you know the star [01:36:03] wars fan base can get a little racist [01:36:04] sometimes [01:36:05] so [01:36:06] they hate you [01:36:08] and on top of that they're putting out a [01:36:09] bad product [01:36:11] and yet we're still giving them our [01:36:12] money keep keep your hulu subscription [01:36:14] we hate you by the way yeah right it's [01:36:16] it's at some point it has to be [01:36:18] you know kind of self-destruct i mean [01:36:20] obviously it's self-destructive and i [01:36:21] know the daily wires putting together [01:36:22] some competitors actually go after [01:36:24] disney which is just awesome [01:36:26] so [01:36:28] i want to say on this though because [01:36:31] you know i'll speak for myself in 2014 [01:36:34] 15 and 16 you know matt if you and i had [01:36:36] this discussion i would have disagreed a [01:36:38] little bit with you you've been on the [01:36:41] issue of strong social conservatism i [01:36:43] never was not personally [01:36:45] but i would say publicly say hey i have [01:36:48] my own personal views when it comes to [01:36:50] marriage one man one woman but i want to [01:36:52] live and let live [01:36:53] and i kind of bought into that i was [01:36:55] naive and i thought that hey we can kind [01:36:57] of allow people to make their own [01:36:59] choices [01:37:00] and the results are going to kind of [01:37:02] just whatever they might be [01:37:03] and we can kind of have this mutual data [01:37:06] right where [01:37:07] you won't reciprocate against us and we [01:37:09] can kind of live in this neo-liberal [01:37:11] utopian paradise you were always kind of [01:37:14] like [01:37:14] you're naive you don't really understand [01:37:16] what's going on here but i think a lot [01:37:18] of conservatives and people in this room [01:37:19] included were probably had this view [01:37:21] recently especially like hey i know gay [01:37:23] people in my life and i don't want to [01:37:24] come across as hostile and i don't want [01:37:27] to try to impose our morality on other [01:37:30] people which is an insane proposition to [01:37:31] begin with but that was kind of in the [01:37:33] conservative [01:37:34] narrative for years [01:37:36] and you look at 17 and 18 post the gay [01:37:39] marriage decision [01:37:40] it's as if the kind of lgbtqia plus [01:37:44] let's just call them the alphabet mafia [01:37:46] okay the uh alphabet mafia's activism [01:37:49] has only increased it's become with more [01:37:52] intensity and with more venom yeah and [01:37:55] so can you kind of walk through that and [01:37:58] because i think a lot of people would [01:37:59] resonate with what i just said where [01:38:01] deep down we kind of want to live in [01:38:03] that live and let live country it's nice [01:38:04] it sounds good it's in some ways [01:38:07] woefully idealistic [01:38:09] but it also is incredibly destructive [01:38:11] and opens the gateway for these ideas [01:38:13] and these activist groups to have a hold [01:38:14] on our children our society yeah it's [01:38:16] always everything from the left is a [01:38:18] slight of hand trick that's the first [01:38:19] thing to realize and so that's as you as [01:38:21] you point out the first problem with the [01:38:22] live and let live thing is that that was [01:38:24] never their project [01:38:25] as as much as they claim that and so [01:38:28] it always follows the same trajectory [01:38:29] where whatever the thing is that they're [01:38:31] proposing or advocating the first they [01:38:34] say well just look let us let us do our [01:38:36] thing you do your thing just tolerate [01:38:38] right tolerance is it and then that's [01:38:40] not quite enough now it needs to be [01:38:41] acceptance and acceptance is not the [01:38:42] same thing as tolerance although they [01:38:44] get grouped together i'm accepting and [01:38:45] tolerating well those are two different [01:38:47] things i can tolerate something and not [01:38:48] accept it but now you have to accept it [01:38:50] too you have to accept an acceptance [01:38:52] affirmation or synonymous and then even [01:38:55] that's not enough now you have to openly [01:38:57] celebrate it and then even [01:38:59] even that's not enough though because [01:39:00] the next step is you have to participate [01:39:03] in it and that is exactly what's [01:39:05] happening with going back to gender [01:39:06] ideology [01:39:08] celebrating is not enough you need to be [01:39:09] a participant which means that if i am [01:39:12] claiming i'm a woman you need to be a [01:39:14] part of that charade you you are an [01:39:16] active member of my [01:39:19] self-perception um and if you won't do [01:39:21] that then you are killing me you're [01:39:23] destroying me and that is always the [01:39:25] trajectory which is which is the reason [01:39:27] why [01:39:28] it's just we cut it off at the beginning [01:39:30] and said no no way i want to repeat that [01:39:31] that's super smart i hope everyone [01:39:33] caught that right because this is the [01:39:35] cycle of neoliberalism [01:39:37] and this is why people are waking up is [01:39:39] first it was you have to tolerate it [01:39:42] which was the tolerance campaign [01:39:44] and then you must accept it and then [01:39:47] celebrate it [01:39:48] and then the final is participate [01:39:50] participate thank you [01:39:52] and so what phase are we in right now [01:39:54] we're in celebrate participate would you [01:39:56] say kind of the bridge between the two [01:39:57] right yeah because it was almost like if [01:39:59] you don't you have to tolerate and i [01:40:01] think a lot of people would like okay [01:40:02] fine i'll tolerate it like okay sure and [01:40:04] then i was like no now you must accept [01:40:06] it like if you disagree that you're a [01:40:08] bad person and then if you're not in a [01:40:09] gay pride you know parade you're a bad [01:40:11] person and now if you're not putting [01:40:13] puberty blockers in school you're a bad [01:40:15] person and matt it seems as if that's a [01:40:18] pattern that manifests itself in almost [01:40:20] every single major [01:40:21] issue that the media first pushes and [01:40:23] then gets [01:40:24] kind of pushed on us it's true and the [01:40:26] other part of the story to keep in mind [01:40:28] is that the let we talk about the victim [01:40:30] narrative it's actually very important [01:40:32] to keep that in mind because the other [01:40:34] thing for the left is that they're [01:40:35] advocating for things they're they're [01:40:37] pushing for for certain victories [01:40:39] but [01:40:40] they can never achieve the victory it's [01:40:42] very important for them that it can [01:40:43] never be seen that they're they've [01:40:45] actually been successful the struggle [01:40:46] must continue [01:40:49] is why foreign told now like we had a [01:40:51] we elected a black man president twice [01:40:54] and now if you listen to the left this [01:40:55] country is more racist than it's ever [01:40:57] been so we actually that that's not a [01:40:59] sign of any progress whatsoever so [01:41:01] they're always saying well let's do this [01:41:03] thing and then it'll be we'll celebrate [01:41:05] it it's a sign of progress we have a [01:41:06] black female supreme court justice then [01:41:08] the very next day they're saying oh it's [01:41:10] jim crow all over again well then what's [01:41:11] even why am i even listening to you [01:41:13] according to you no matter what i do [01:41:15] we're going to be racist and living in [01:41:17] in you know the medieval times no matter [01:41:19] what so what's what's the point of even [01:41:21] trying yeah and i think where you're [01:41:23] starting to see kind of at least from my [01:41:24] personal perspective and my 10 years of [01:41:27] doing this kind of a a renewed focus and [01:41:31] energy behind this is that we remember [01:41:33] the phases of tolerance acceptance [01:41:37] celebration and then participation and [01:41:40] at least for me personally i'm like okay [01:41:41] i was okay on the tolerance thing i was [01:41:43] like not really okay on the acceptance [01:41:45] thing and now you look back you're like [01:41:47] boy i was played [01:41:49] like you lied to us like [01:41:51] we were trying to be good people and [01:41:52] trying to build bridges [01:41:54] and now you're teaching four-year-olds [01:41:56] about lesbian sex like this is not okay [01:41:58] and we're not gonna put up with this [01:41:59] actually and you took advantage of our [01:42:01] good intentions and now you're trying to [01:42:03] take over the entire society and that's [01:42:05] a that's a really good point what you [01:42:06] just said yep [01:42:09] um [01:42:10] taking advantage of people taking [01:42:13] advantage of good intentions taking [01:42:14] advantage of people who just kind of [01:42:16] want to be polite is a big part of what [01:42:17] the left does and it really infuriates [01:42:19] me [01:42:20] and right but i don't have that problem [01:42:22] because i'm not i'm not polite so i just [01:42:23] i don't have so [01:42:24] that you can't take advantage of that [01:42:26] with me [01:42:27] but that's not like you should you [01:42:28] should want to be a kind of a nice [01:42:29] person and so this is one thing when we [01:42:31] did doing the film and we go out and we [01:42:33] talked to just normal people on the [01:42:34] street [01:42:36] and uh the thing that was so clear that [01:42:38] came through and all these many of these [01:42:40] kind of man on the street conversations [01:42:42] is that these people are terrified like [01:42:44] they're [01:42:45] they're good intentioned they don't hurt [01:42:47] anybody's feelings [01:42:48] they've also been told now by all the [01:42:49] institutions that if you say the wrong [01:42:51] thing on camera if you god forbid you [01:42:53] say that only women can have babies on [01:42:54] camera your life is ruined [01:42:56] and uh so people have just been taken [01:42:58] advantage of and they've been they've [01:42:59] been uh [01:43:00] intimidated and that's what sort of [01:43:02] intimidation fear is what paves the way [01:43:05] for all these things so i want to play [01:43:06] the clip that matt mentioned so matt [01:43:08] remind us what country did you visit [01:43:11] we flew into uh [01:43:14] kenya and then we got into into nairobi [01:43:17] and then we got into these kind of very [01:43:20] impressive suv kind of safari vehicles [01:43:22] we drove about five hours down into the [01:43:24] uh the bush by the way what we find in [01:43:26] africa they don't [01:43:28] at least in this part of africa they [01:43:29] don't really believe in like uh [01:43:31] rules of the road so it's a it's kind of [01:43:33] a [01:43:34] western construct yeah it is too okay um [01:43:37] although many american cities don't [01:43:38] believe that anyway and we went down and [01:43:39] we and we talked to the messiah tribe [01:43:41] down there all right this is for you [01:43:42] guys can go to dailywire.com actually we [01:43:45] have a promo code dailywire.com charlie [01:43:47] to get a membership to watch let's watch [01:43:48] the clip [01:43:51] what if a man decides that his his [01:43:53] gender identity [01:43:55] is his woman [01:44:07] a woman has its own duty [01:44:10] and a man has its own duty and a lady [01:44:12] cannot duty the duty of a man and a man [01:44:15] cannot do a duty of a woman [01:44:18] can a man [01:44:20] become a woman [01:44:26] no no no [01:44:28] what about a transgender [01:44:31] okay transgender [01:44:40] if you want to become a lady but your [01:44:42] man [01:44:43] you have something wrong [01:44:46] something wrong in your family from the [01:44:48] wrong in you [01:44:50] what about if someone was non-binary [01:44:54] non-binary [01:45:00] like someone is you're not a woman [01:45:02] you're not a man [01:45:04] yeah someone's like someone is is [01:45:05] neither there's something else is that [01:45:10] your life [01:45:13] [Music] [01:45:17] he's saying we have never seen things [01:45:20] like this for a man he has a penis for a [01:45:23] woman he has a vagina so we know this is [01:45:26] a lady this is a man what if it's a [01:45:28] woman with a what if it's a woman with a [01:45:30] penis [01:45:42] people are laughing is that a dumb [01:45:43] question [01:45:48] hey [01:45:50] um [01:45:52] i mean they they said it not me so [01:45:54] that's what i love about that clip i'm [01:45:55] just having so much fun posting that on [01:45:56] on twitter it's like [01:45:59] the thing is the messiah tribe you can't [01:46:01] you can't kick them off twitter you know [01:46:04] and uh [01:46:05] right [01:46:06] they're totally uncancelable [01:46:08] and it it does create this really [01:46:11] difficult situation for the left and [01:46:12] that like what are they going to do [01:46:14] docks the messiah tribe they don't even [01:46:16] have fixed addresses so [01:46:18] yeah they're going to show up and [01:46:20] protest them in kenya um [01:46:22] so so matt now i want to kind of talk [01:46:24] about [01:46:25] kind of further explore this tension [01:46:27] that i know some people watching they'll [01:46:28] love the movie and like this is this is [01:46:31] terrible it's awful what's happening and [01:46:33] you talk to people that have performed [01:46:34] these surgeries chemical castration [01:46:37] genital mutil mutilation it's amazing [01:46:39] content and totally eye-opening even for [01:46:41] someone that i consider myself to be [01:46:44] kind of somewhat literate in this space [01:46:46] but some people that are hesitant to say [01:46:49] should we use legislation or government [01:46:52] to then try to solve some of these [01:46:53] things and so [01:46:55] where should how should conservatives [01:46:57] think about that because i think you'll [01:46:59] have a lot of consensus amongst the [01:47:01] audience that yeah this is wrong this is [01:47:03] terrible but who am i to say who am i to [01:47:05] try to get involved in somebody else's [01:47:06] business why should this be everybody's [01:47:08] business [01:47:09] uh well [01:47:11] the the first answer i want to give to [01:47:12] that and this this uh this to me is [01:47:14] important and it's it's kind of uh for a [01:47:16] lot of people it's like the third or [01:47:17] fourth answer but for me the first [01:47:18] answer is that [01:47:20] uh the truth actually matters right the [01:47:24] truth just [01:47:25] right [01:47:26] um [01:47:28] because this is a response i got many [01:47:30] many times which is you know why do you [01:47:32] care why is it so important to you well [01:47:33] because i care about the truth and the [01:47:35] truth matters for its own sake so let's [01:47:36] just start with that i mean if look if [01:47:38] there was a if there was a movement [01:47:40] afoot [01:47:41] um to convince everybody that squares [01:47:43] are circles you know and that geometry [01:47:45] is fluid and there's a square circle [01:47:48] spectrum and it's all the same i you [01:47:50] know i would be fighting back against it [01:47:52] i i would make a film called what is a [01:47:54] square because [01:47:55] i it's just true i don't want to i don't [01:47:57] want to live in a world where people [01:47:58] don't understand the difference so [01:47:59] that's the first thing the truth matters [01:48:01] and and i just think we need to reject [01:48:03] this idea that we have to immediately go [01:48:04] to the kind of like practical well how [01:48:06] is this practically affecting me it does [01:48:08] practically affect us and that's when we [01:48:09] bring us to the next thing which is that [01:48:10] um [01:48:11] women are as you women have noticed are [01:48:13] being [01:48:16] erased appropriate we hear so much about [01:48:18] appropriation women's identities are [01:48:20] being appropriated [01:48:22] and basically like [01:48:24] womanhood is now worn like a costume [01:48:26] it's like something that a man can just [01:48:28] put on [01:48:29] um [01:48:30] right yeah [01:48:32] and [01:48:35] being taken advantage of being put in [01:48:37] incredibly dangerous situations being [01:48:40] you have women in prison now who are [01:48:41] being locked in [01:48:43] cages right with violent [01:48:47] males who just say that they're women in [01:48:49] many cases the man doesn't even have to [01:48:51] take hormones or get certainly doesn't [01:48:52] have to get sex change surgery just a [01:48:54] man says oh you know i'm a woman turns [01:48:56] out okay we'll send you over to the [01:48:58] women's prison a lot of these women many [01:49:00] women in women's prisons have been [01:49:01] sexually abused in the past and i just [01:49:02] imagine that so [01:49:04] that matters okay that's why we need [01:49:05] legislation to stop that and then also [01:49:07] children listen [01:49:08] um [01:49:10] lgbt identification in general [01:49:13] has [01:49:14] for the youngest generation has risen [01:49:17] 20-fold [01:49:18] over [01:49:19] their great-grandparents okay [01:49:21] so for the great grandparents of gen z [01:49:23] lgbt identification according to gallup [01:49:25] polls is like 0.8 percent for gen z it's [01:49:29] twenty percent [01:49:30] and if you follow the generations [01:49:33] uh and it's getting higher and for my [01:49:34] kids generations even higher than that's [01:49:35] probably like 40 50 [01:49:37] in fact it will be 40 i'll predict that [01:49:39] right now and here's how i know because [01:49:40] for the last five generations [01:49:43] lgbt identification has doubled [01:49:45] generation upon generation for five [01:49:47] generations in a row and i think that's [01:49:48] going to continue [01:49:50] trans identification in particular also [01:49:52] 20 times higher um [01:49:54] especially among gen z so there's this [01:49:58] this real conspiracy among all the most [01:50:00] powerful institutions in this country [01:50:02] to brainwash and indoctrinate and [01:50:04] recruit kids into what is i think a cult [01:50:08] um and to create within them an identity [01:50:10] crisis we're taking kids who are just [01:50:12] normal innocent kids you have like a [01:50:14] three-year-old boy who's just a normal [01:50:15] boy anyone's been around a [01:50:17] three-year-old you know they just say a [01:50:18] bunch of nonsense all the time nothing [01:50:19] they say means anything they're just [01:50:20] like little kids running around talking [01:50:22] nonsense and so a little boy says just [01:50:24] one day says oh i'm a girl [01:50:26] and you have these adults that latch on [01:50:28] to that and they say okay now you know [01:50:29] what now johnny um this is going to be [01:50:32] your life now this this thing that you [01:50:33] just said when you were three years old [01:50:35] because you were babbling this is now [01:50:36] your life like we're gonna this is now [01:50:38] an identity crisis that we're gonna [01:50:40] create for you [01:50:41] and we're gonna put you on the path to [01:50:43] mutilation despair and suicide that's [01:50:45] why we should care [01:50:46] so and it's it's [01:50:48] totally applauded [01:50:52] there's there's a romanticism element to [01:50:55] this too [01:50:56] which in a lot of the literature [01:50:58] they would always value the infant over [01:50:59] the adult [01:51:00] and they would val it's kind of an [01:51:02] extension we've seen it in recent years [01:51:04] and you've seen it in our education [01:51:05] system where teachers kind of go around [01:51:06] the room like i'm going to ask my third [01:51:08] graders what they think [01:51:10] you know about gun control actually no [01:51:11] one cares about you what your third [01:51:12] graders think about gun control they're [01:51:14] in third grade you should teach some [01:51:15] things that are true [01:51:16] and teachers that do this they have [01:51:18] totally the wrong perspective of what [01:51:20] education is it means to lead children [01:51:22] towards the truth not to democratize it [01:51:25] and be like yeah i could say the [01:51:26] darndest things i'd actually say really [01:51:28] dumb things you should correct them and [01:51:30] tell them to sit up straight with their [01:51:31] shoulders back and speak properly and [01:51:33] use good english and get better [01:51:34] handwriting yeah [01:51:36] and so [01:51:38] in some ways it's been this over [01:51:40] elevation of the child and that's not to [01:51:42] say that children can't say things of [01:51:44] wisdom and they can't be cute and all [01:51:46] that obviously there's a balance in [01:51:47] between it but when children start to [01:51:49] dictate your public policy you go in a [01:51:51] bad direction and guess what [01:51:53] we've done that we've tried to do on gun [01:51:55] control remember parkland we decided to [01:51:56] just listen to a bunch of teenagers [01:51:58] about guns we've done it with [01:52:00] environmental policy greta funberg has [01:52:02] become more instrumental than most [01:52:04] scientists in the west and it doesn't [01:52:07] seem like it's any different because [01:52:09] there's almost this untouchability [01:52:11] that american adults feel towards the [01:52:13] nation's children as if who am i [01:52:16] as a 55 year old parent who pays taxes [01:52:19] and has been around for multiple decades [01:52:21] who am i to tell my six-year-old what is [01:52:23] true [01:52:24] how on earth do we get that messed up [01:52:27] well one way is that the people coming [01:52:28] up with these ideas are all a bunch of [01:52:29] like childless cat ladies with purple [01:52:31] hair who have [01:52:33] they've just never been around kids they [01:52:35] really don't even understand what a kid [01:52:36] is [01:52:38] um because listen [01:52:40] i [01:52:40] i i have four kids and uh [01:52:44] you all you just have to be around kids [01:52:45] for like five seconds and you realize [01:52:47] how much nonsense all this stuff is my [01:52:49] two-year-old okay so this is just one [01:52:51] example of so many others [01:52:53] my my current two-year-old daughter [01:52:55] the youngest has been insisting to us [01:52:59] for weeks [01:53:00] that um there's a monkey in her room [01:53:02] that only comes out at night when she's [01:53:03] sleeping and she tells us all these wild [01:53:04] stories about this monkey [01:53:06] well mickey pox or the monkey well [01:53:08] that's i'm worried now i'm a little bit [01:53:09] worried [01:53:11] so i got to talk to her about that we [01:53:12] might do the vaccine i guess um but [01:53:16] no so she's she's she's telling me all [01:53:18] all about this and it's does that mean [01:53:20] is my two-year-old is she hallucinating [01:53:22] is she crazy uh is is she lying [01:53:25] no none of that [01:53:27] is there actually a monkey and of course [01:53:28] that's not true either it's just that [01:53:29] kids don't have a grat the distinction [01:53:31] between fantasy and reality doesn't [01:53:33] exist for young kids that's the reason [01:53:35] why i bring this up to the [01:53:37] gender affirming pediatrician i talk to [01:53:39] in the film [01:53:40] you know little a four-year-old kid [01:53:43] and i don't think there's no [01:53:44] four-year-olds here right so i don't [01:53:45] want to spoil anything but a [01:53:46] four-year-old kid you can you can you [01:53:48] don't even have to convince a [01:53:49] four-year-old kid of this they'll just [01:53:50] believe you the first time you tell them [01:53:51] that there's a magical fat man who flies [01:53:54] through the the air on reindeer [01:53:58] at the speed of light and brings [01:54:00] presents to them through a chimney [01:54:02] and you could tell a four-year-old dad [01:54:03] and they'll just say okay they don't ask [01:54:05] any skeptical questions at all like none [01:54:08] because it just doesn't the idea that [01:54:10] you know of invention and imagination [01:54:12] and fantasy that doesn't exist for them [01:54:14] because their whole world is imagination [01:54:16] and fantasy and all of this and that's [01:54:19] what's so wonderful about being a kid [01:54:20] just like let them have their [01:54:22] imagination let them live in this [01:54:23] innocent childlike world [01:54:25] stop trying to turn it into [01:54:28] to this [01:54:33] when the line is crossed yes absolutely [01:54:35] and that's [01:54:36] is that [01:54:38] and we know this because as you grow [01:54:41] older you realize true freedom is not [01:54:43] doing what you want to do it's the [01:54:44] pursuit of virtue and go meet an [01:54:46] alcoholic are they free of course not [01:54:48] obviously [01:54:49] alcoholic did whatever they want to do [01:54:50] whenever they want to do it they're the [01:54:51] least free people in the world and they [01:54:53] have to struggle very hard to get over [01:54:54] that and i think all of us know people [01:54:55] in our lives that struggle that's a very [01:54:57] serious thing and so when you're dealing [01:54:59] with a child [01:55:01] and they all of a sudden kind of cross [01:55:02] the line a the moral society [01:55:05] loves the child so much to say we know [01:55:07] what's actually better stop eating dirt [01:55:10] right you have to not only eat sugar i [01:55:13] mean these are very basic things [01:55:15] that we are willing to do [01:55:17] and yet matt it's i mean it's insane if [01:55:19] i were to say okay if a child just says [01:55:21] i want to eat skittles for the rest of [01:55:22] the year [01:55:23] no rational adult would say that's good [01:55:25] they would say you know called child [01:55:26] protective services almost [01:55:28] and yet if they were to say if that [01:55:30] five-year-old would say okay i'm fine [01:55:32] eating broccoli i actually just want to [01:55:34] have [01:55:35] my genitals chopped off [01:55:36] right [01:55:37] the parent says oh my goodness tell me [01:55:39] more [01:55:42] that [01:55:44] that to me is kind of the most obvious [01:55:46] component i agree with you partially [01:55:48] matt but i want to have you explain it [01:55:50] for me a little bit more because you're [01:55:52] right a lot of this is like sexless [01:55:53] childless you know purple hat purple [01:55:55] hair people that are really angry but [01:55:57] there are parents that go along with [01:55:59] this yeah [01:56:00] definitely can can you help me [01:56:01] understand that um [01:56:03] yeah yeah that's that's that's that's [01:56:05] true i think i think the the people and [01:56:07] kind of the institutions in academia who [01:56:09] are coming up with these ideas and [01:56:11] filtering them down you know these are [01:56:13] the childless purple haired people um [01:56:14] and they do almost always have purple [01:56:16] hair it's just like crazy how that works [01:56:18] right yeah exactly but yeah when you get [01:56:20] down into when you when you filter [01:56:22] beyond the institutions to get into the [01:56:23] family [01:56:24] unfortunately you do [01:56:26] often find now parents who are eager to [01:56:28] go along with this i think there are [01:56:29] when it comes to to parents of so-called [01:56:31] trans kids and i say so-called trans kid [01:56:33] because there's no such thing as a trans [01:56:34] kid in reality but [01:56:36] the parents i think they kind of broadly [01:56:38] fall into two categories [01:56:40] the one category is the parents of the [01:56:42] adolescent and abigail schreier talks [01:56:44] about this all the time wrote about in [01:56:45] her excellent book [01:56:46] uh irreversible damage yep [01:56:50] so these are the parents who uh you're [01:56:52] raising your kid you're doing everything [01:56:53] you think right you're loving your child [01:56:55] and then one day your daughter comes [01:56:57] home at the age of 14 and says i'm a boy [01:56:59] i want to chop my breasts off and the [01:57:01] parents of course react like any parent [01:57:03] should and say that i'm not going to do [01:57:04] that but then but then oftentimes a [01:57:06] parent make a mistake and it's [01:57:08] unfortunate this is a mistake now where [01:57:10] they go to a therapist without doing a [01:57:11] lot of research ahead of time and the [01:57:12] therapist tells them well um [01:57:15] do you want to have a living son or a [01:57:17] dead daughter because your child is [01:57:19] going to kill herself or himself [01:57:22] if you don't if you don't allow this [01:57:23] gender transition [01:57:25] and there are parents that are i mean [01:57:27] imagine hearing that when you're not [01:57:28] prepared you don't really underst you [01:57:30] know you haven't looked into this very [01:57:31] much you didn't expect any of this [01:57:33] and then all of a sudden you're hearing [01:57:34] this that's a threat by the way a that's [01:57:37] a threat it's a it's emotional blackmail [01:57:40] and um so i i have [01:57:42] a lot of sympathy for the parents in [01:57:43] that position [01:57:45] although no matter what you cannot ever [01:57:47] go along with your child mutilating [01:57:49] themselves no matter what um [01:57:51] but [01:57:53] that's different [01:57:55] that is different from [01:57:57] the parent who says my five-year-old is [01:57:59] non-binary that's a totally different [01:58:01] thing [01:58:02] okay because your five-year-old this is [01:58:04] not [01:58:05] institutions conspiring against you [01:58:07] your five-year-old can't put any [01:58:08] pressure on you this is this is [01:58:10] something your five-year-old didn't come [01:58:11] up with that [01:58:12] no five-year-old comes up with that um [01:58:14] you came up with that [01:58:16] and this was your idea and you put them [01:58:18] on that path early in life because you [01:58:20] wanted a child who was non-binary trans [01:58:24] because they're a prop they're a [01:58:25] political pawn they're they're a fashion [01:58:28] accessory that you can carry around [01:58:30] and show off you know i want to play a [01:58:32] clip from the movie of how real uh this [01:58:34] chemical castration is i think this is [01:58:37] the clip you were talking about matt so [01:58:39] let's take a look [01:58:40] at what age does the medical transition [01:58:42] begin with uh medication so medical [01:58:46] affirmation begins when the patient says [01:58:48] they're ready for it [01:58:50] so that could be [01:58:51] a kiddo who is just starting puberty [01:58:54] and panicking because they're getting [01:58:56] breast buds or their penis is getting [01:58:59] bigger and busier and they're worried [01:59:01] about all kinds of masculine changes and [01:59:04] that way puberty blockers which are [01:59:06] completely reversible [01:59:08] and [01:59:09] don't have permanent effects are [01:59:11] wonderful because we can put that pause [01:59:14] on puberty it's like if you were [01:59:16] listening in music you put the paws on [01:59:18] and we stopped the blockers and puberty [01:59:20] would go right [01:59:21] back to where it was the next note in [01:59:24] the song [01:59:25] just delayed that period of time [01:59:27] you could just pause puberty no you [01:59:29] can't and then pick it up no you can't [01:59:31] in the future no you can't [01:59:33] how many studies do they have long-term [01:59:35] studies on hormone blockers with [01:59:37] children [01:59:38] none [01:59:39] i just spoke a month or two ago with a [01:59:42] mother whose [01:59:45] 14 year old daughter [01:59:47] was put on [01:59:48] blockers [01:59:50] they discovered after two years [01:59:52] this 14 year old girl has osteoporosis [01:59:55] that's something that like old women get [01:59:57] how can doctors assure parents that a [02:00:00] certain medicine is totally safe [02:00:02] it's basically what you're saying they [02:00:04] can't [02:00:05] possibly know that how can they be [02:00:06] removing the healthy breasts of 15 year [02:00:09] old girls [02:00:10] how can they be sterilizing kids [02:00:14] how can this whole thing be happening [02:00:16] matt [02:00:18] so [02:00:20] can you can you just reemphasize one of [02:00:22] the points you puberty just can't stop [02:00:24] like it's a movie right yeah it doesn't [02:00:26] it doesn't work that way it's a it's a [02:00:28] healthy process in the human body [02:00:30] and as you heard from scott nugent who's [02:00:33] the [02:00:33] that's a trans [02:00:37] a woman who transitioned to a male [02:00:40] although she says in the film she's one [02:00:42] of the only honest people we talk to and [02:00:43] she says i transition to appear like a [02:00:45] man but i'll never be a man anyways we [02:00:47] hear from from her that uh there are no [02:00:49] studies that have been done on this [02:00:50] whatsoever we've never we've never had a [02:00:53] generation of kids [02:00:55] that has had this done to them like [02:00:57] they're lab rats so we're just kind of [02:00:59] trying this out on a whole generation of [02:01:01] kids but based on what we do know we [02:01:03] know that these these are serious drugs [02:01:05] a little bit later in that same [02:01:06] interaction [02:01:08] we talk about what the actual drug is [02:01:10] the actual puberty blocking drug is [02:01:11] lupron that's what it's called [02:01:13] and it is used off label to quote block [02:01:17] puberty it is actually a cancer drug for [02:01:19] prostate cancer that you give to adult [02:01:21] men [02:01:22] and at a certain point they realize it [02:01:24] had chemical castration properties so [02:01:26] they started giving it to sex offenders [02:01:28] to chemically castrate pedophiles [02:01:31] and now we give it to 12 year old boys [02:01:33] and i asked that pediatrician about that [02:01:36] said lupron it's chemical castration and [02:01:38] that's when she said she wanted to get [02:01:39] up and the interview was going to be [02:01:40] over [02:01:41] she didn't want to talk about it but [02:01:42] it's absolutely true and this is what [02:01:44] we're doing not just to a couple of kids [02:01:46] but to thousands millions of kids yeah [02:01:48] so that the question is also how [02:01:50] widespread is this right we know the [02:01:52] pharmaceutical industry has done such [02:01:53] damage to our country especially over [02:01:55] the last couple years and you want to [02:01:57] look at kind of one of the major [02:01:58] enlightenments is how people don't trust [02:02:00] pfizer astrazeneca johnson and johnson [02:02:02] and moderna anymore after the damage [02:02:04] they've done but this is an interesting [02:02:06] wrinkle where people don't realize it's [02:02:08] not just the pharmaceutical companies [02:02:09] that are pushing antidepressants on you [02:02:12] unnecessarily and by the way they might [02:02:13] make your depression anxiety worse just [02:02:15] so we're clear so be very careful before [02:02:18] you go on benzodiazepines or prozac or [02:02:20] xanax [02:02:21] but it's not just that but the [02:02:23] pharmaceutical industry is involved in [02:02:25] this trans issue there's billions of [02:02:27] dollars to be made in new fda approved [02:02:29] puberty blockers and then with it the [02:02:32] benzodiazepines and these other drugs [02:02:35] that could also accompany it talk about [02:02:37] the pharmaceutical profit motive [02:02:38] involved in a lot of this well as you [02:02:40] just said billions of dollars and [02:02:42] anytime there's billions of dollars [02:02:43] involved then uh we know that there's [02:02:46] that's reason enough for skepticism when [02:02:48] it comes to chemically castrating kids [02:02:50] that should be that should be the entire [02:02:51] reason that you need to be skeptical of [02:02:53] it but there are people that are making [02:02:55] billions of dollars and it's not just [02:02:56] the pharmaceutical industry [02:02:58] this this goes to um therapists [02:03:01] you know there there are therapists that [02:03:03] used to just be regular old therapists [02:03:05] and then they realize that the real [02:03:06] money is in the gender affirming game um [02:03:09] and that's where you can really make the [02:03:10] money that's where you can find all the [02:03:11] clients and so this is all they do now [02:03:12] is they do gender affirming [02:03:15] care and then there there are you know [02:03:17] endocrinologists who this is all they do [02:03:19] now is give out the hormone blockers and [02:03:20] everything there there are people who [02:03:22] have realized in therapies like [02:03:23] psychiatric industry the pharmaceutical [02:03:26] industry the medical industry generally [02:03:29] that there is lots of money to be made [02:03:31] here and um [02:03:32] so they have no incentive [02:03:35] you know if uh if [02:03:36] if you've got a five-year-old boy [02:03:39] who has now had this gender confusion [02:03:41] forced on him there's no profit [02:03:43] incentive [02:03:44] in [02:03:45] helping that child overcome the [02:03:46] confusion and just live as a boy [02:03:49] i mean that that boy there's a dollar [02:03:51] sign over his head [02:03:52] that boy is worth [02:03:54] millions of dollars in the long run to [02:03:56] lots of very powerful industries [02:03:58] it's it sounds cynical but boy we [02:04:00] believe it after the last couple years [02:04:02] don't we after we've seen what this is [02:04:03] what they've done to us so matt how much [02:04:05] do you think of this is natural [02:04:07] predisposition or societal fad because [02:04:10] this is an ongoing debate that i will [02:04:12] say that mostly adults over the age of [02:04:14] 50 they'll say look no one wants to be [02:04:17] transgender no one wants to be gay and [02:04:20] believe it or not this is actually [02:04:22] mostly boomers make this argument [02:04:24] believe it or not that no one would wish [02:04:25] this upon themselves because i think [02:04:27] they remember a generation where that [02:04:29] was true [02:04:30] in the 60s or 70s or 80s but as you say [02:04:33] and i don't say this jokingly it's true [02:04:34] it's the gayest generation in history [02:04:37] you know 40 percent of arizona according [02:04:39] to arizona christian university 40 [02:04:40] percent will identify as bisexual [02:04:42] lesbian gay or any one of those [02:04:44] categories and i didn't believe the [02:04:46] study at first so we asked our podcast [02:04:48] audience to email us we received [02:04:49] thousands of emails [02:04:51] and they said that oh yeah like half of [02:04:53] my child's fourth grade class is [02:04:55] non-binary or lesbian or gay do you [02:04:57] believe 40 more or less would you find [02:04:59] that [02:05:00] just the audience do you think that's [02:05:01] about right yeah [02:05:04] heads are nodding and so how much of [02:05:05] this is predisposition matt such as a [02:05:08] you know [02:05:09] they there might be something for [02:05:10] whatever reason of feminine or masculine [02:05:12] tendencies for a man or a woman or how [02:05:13] much of it is a fad [02:05:15] and are we even allowed to say that i [02:05:17] think uh i think almost all of it is a [02:05:19] fad if you there there's a very small [02:05:21] minority of people who even apart from [02:05:24] any fad and any of this being suggested [02:05:26] to them would have some [02:05:29] confusion some delusions about their [02:05:31] true identity and if you want to know [02:05:32] what percentage that would be we'll just [02:05:34] look at the generations before any of [02:05:37] this was promoted or suggested or [02:05:39] advertised and if you go back to like [02:05:42] our grandparents generation it's like [02:05:43] point something percent that would have [02:05:46] identified as trans [02:05:47] that's the number that's the number of [02:05:49] people who [02:05:50] have the mental [02:05:52] condition and and the rest of this is [02:05:53] societal i mean interrupt but just to [02:05:55] say because i'm sure a lot of you [02:05:56] receive that counter argument well [02:05:58] they'll say oh no but they weren't [02:05:59] comfortable coming out back then so the [02:06:01] environment is different i'm sorry to [02:06:03] interject but i'm sure a lot of you have [02:06:04] heard that argument how do we respond to [02:06:06] that well what do they always say they [02:06:08] say that um if you don't affirm [02:06:11] somebody as trans [02:06:13] then they're going to kill themselves [02:06:14] you're creating suicide right we've [02:06:16] heard that a million times okay well [02:06:17] hold on a second [02:06:19] so back in 1950 let's say there's point [02:06:22] zero one percent identifying as trans [02:06:25] but in reality there's like ten percent [02:06:27] trans and they're but they're not being [02:06:28] affirmed [02:06:29] was there an epidemic of people killing [02:06:30] themselves in 1950 because they weren't [02:06:32] being affirmed as trans did that happen [02:06:34] like at all [02:06:36] ever so so it that's my response it just [02:06:39] the whole theory breaks down according [02:06:41] to them if that's true that in 1950 they [02:06:44] were 10 trans but they weren't being [02:06:46] affirmed then there should have been a [02:06:48] mass suicide epidemic that didn't happen [02:06:50] the mass suicide epidemic is now [02:06:52] the massive suicide epidemic is [02:06:54] alongside the affirmation [02:06:57] that's that's what's causing the suicide [02:06:59] and so it's the exact opposite of what [02:07:00] they're saying and so [02:07:06] a lot of people so this is an [02:07:07] interesting component i think this is a [02:07:08] good way to end this which is what do we [02:07:10] actually do about it so i think the [02:07:12] frustration that people have about this [02:07:14] issue is that 99 of america does not [02:07:17] believe men can become pregnant [02:07:20] maybe less 90 i don't know 99 of america [02:07:23] think this stuff is insane all the while [02:07:24] 99 of america is afraid to talk about it [02:07:27] which is that there's an incredible we [02:07:30] mentioned at the beginning there's a [02:07:31] bullying a harassment intimidation a [02:07:33] threat and a fear around this issue [02:07:36] so [02:07:37] matt give us a status report who's [02:07:39] winning are the is the alphabet mafia [02:07:41] winning is it you know the cartel [02:07:43] chemical castration are we starting to [02:07:45] gain some ground do you see some promise [02:07:47] are you more optimistic [02:07:49] give us your report uh they are winning [02:07:51] right now we have the statistics we [02:07:52] talked about the numbers it's clear that [02:07:54] right now they're winning [02:07:55] but this is one i'm not usually [02:07:57] optimistic on anything so if i'm [02:07:58] optimistic on something then it's [02:08:00] there's reason to listen i am actually [02:08:02] optimistic on this i think that [02:08:04] we're not winning right now but we can [02:08:05] win okay gender ideology is pervasive [02:08:09] ubiquitous [02:08:10] uh incredibly toxic and harmful and [02:08:12] dangerous and it's beatable we can [02:08:14] easily beat it and i discovered this [02:08:16] myself filming this documentary because [02:08:18] all i did i went around and i just asked [02:08:20] the simplest most basic questions and [02:08:22] what i discovered is that this is an [02:08:24] ideology that is so weak so flimsy so [02:08:26] utterly hollow at its core that it [02:08:28] cannot withstand the pressure of even [02:08:31] one [02:08:32] genuine question asked with real [02:08:33] skepticism all you have to do is just [02:08:36] stand up straight [02:08:37] look this confront this thing look at [02:08:39] straight in the eyes and ask it [02:08:40] questions [02:08:42] demand that it explain itself okay if [02:08:44] you're going to come to me with this [02:08:45] gender ideology thing explain it tell me [02:08:48] why i should accept it answer these [02:08:49] questions [02:08:50] and they can't do it they just fall [02:08:52] apart so we we can win but we have to [02:08:54] have [02:08:54] if we're not willing to actually stand [02:08:56] up and ask the questions then we're not [02:08:58] i mean we'll require some a little bit [02:09:00] of courage you know there's no way to [02:09:01] win any fight without some courage and [02:09:03] remember that spectrum which i thought [02:09:04] was brilliant right which goes from [02:09:06] tolerance acceptance celebration and [02:09:08] participation one leads to the other and [02:09:10] we're now on that bridge between [02:09:12] mandatory celebration that if you are [02:09:15] not showing your flag outside your door [02:09:18] or if you're not showing your [02:09:19] participation in it then you're going to [02:09:20] be doc points but let's let's develop [02:09:22] the battle plan here we have a couple [02:09:23] minutes remaining here matt what is what [02:09:25] are people to do what what are our [02:09:27] turning point usa activists supposed to [02:09:28] do what is the everyday person supposed [02:09:30] to do to actually fix this because [02:09:32] there's a lot of angst and unease this [02:09:33] is in the schools this is in the [02:09:35] corporations this is on in mass media [02:09:37] and people are afraid that yes speak out [02:09:39] about it but it also just seems [02:09:40] overwhelming and intimidating so what [02:09:42] what is what is an everyday person [02:09:44] supposed to do i mean the first the most [02:09:46] basic thing that we could do is just [02:09:47] like just go out and kind of live your [02:09:49] life [02:09:50] as a normal rational person and refuse [02:09:53] to [02:09:54] surrender [02:09:55] yeah [02:09:56] just if if [02:09:57] if all of us in this room were to agree [02:10:00] to this right now and and make this [02:10:01] pledge like as a starting point [02:10:03] that we are going to be normal rational [02:10:05] people living in reality and we will not [02:10:07] surrender that or compromise that for [02:10:08] anyone doesn't mean we're going out and [02:10:10] shouting in people's faces i'm just i'm [02:10:11] just going about my day and i live in [02:10:13] reality and that's where i live and i'm [02:10:15] not going to pretend otherwise ever for [02:10:16] any reason if we just all lived like [02:10:19] that and that's that's that's huge [02:10:21] progress right there is that's the first [02:10:22] thing and then we also have to talk [02:10:24] about the kids too and um you know if [02:10:25] you if you have kids we have to think [02:10:27] about ways that we can protect our kids [02:10:28] from this one big way they're very [02:10:30] practical things like um you know don't [02:10:32] give your eight-year-old a smartphone [02:10:34] with internet access that's got to be [02:10:35] one thing [02:10:36] give your kids [02:10:38] your [02:10:40] kids your kid needs an oasis a respite a [02:10:43] break [02:10:44] from the culture and the madness you [02:10:46] have to give them that like and they [02:10:48] might not want it they might not know [02:10:49] that they need it or even know that they [02:10:51] want it you have to kind of force it on [02:10:52] them [02:10:53] by taking the phone away taking all the [02:10:54] stuff away and just saying you're going [02:10:55] to be here now present in the home go [02:10:58] outside and play be a kid [02:11:00] that's another thing that we have to do [02:11:01] because we have to we have to [02:11:03] you know put up this barrier protecting [02:11:05] our kids so that we can kind of stop [02:11:07] this pipeline that's getting all these [02:11:09] ideas out into public and i would add a [02:11:10] couple things to that i mean i want to [02:11:12] reinforce the courage part by the way [02:11:14] it's hosting the turning point usa [02:11:15] events doing the activity on campus and [02:11:17] by the way who would love to bring matt [02:11:18] walsh to campus how awesome would that [02:11:20] be amazing [02:11:24] tried to make it work berkeley would [02:11:25] have been a lot of fun we'll get it done [02:11:27] i'll tell you what could you imagine [02:11:28] matt and i going to berkeley that would [02:11:30] have been something we'll we'll get it [02:11:31] done we could play the africa club yeah [02:11:33] that would be something i'll tell you [02:11:34] what [02:11:35] boy that would boulder too and a couple [02:11:38] other campuses but i want to add to this [02:11:40] and i know matt you will agree and this [02:11:42] is something as conservatives we don't [02:11:44] like to do which is we have to make the [02:11:47] cost of harming children [02:11:49] high what do i mean by that we have to [02:11:52] punish these people [02:11:53] we have to be unafraid [02:11:57] to [02:11:58] entertain laws [02:11:59] entertain public policy and yes also [02:12:02] social stigma if you are involved in the [02:12:05] proliferation or the normalization of [02:12:07] chemical castration for children like [02:12:09] i'm not going to tolerate that i'm not [02:12:12] going to accept it in fact there has to [02:12:13] be a cost associated with that because [02:12:15] that's exactly what they've done to us [02:12:17] for years [02:12:18] matt [02:12:20] amen to that that's uh [02:12:22] i wish i had led with the punishment bit [02:12:24] that's uh that's a lot more hardcore and [02:12:25] i like that but but i think you're [02:12:26] exactly right we we have to actually be [02:12:29] uh we we should feel angry like you [02:12:32] couldn't it's it'd be possible to be too [02:12:34] angry [02:12:35] about what they're doing to kids and if [02:12:37] we don't if we don't feel that anger [02:12:39] like viscerally then that just shows [02:12:41] that it's been normalized for us we've [02:12:42] been desensitized to a certain extent [02:12:44] that's not okay this idea that you [02:12:46] should we should never be angry about [02:12:47] anything we should be angry about this [02:12:49] and um and and act on that righteous [02:12:51] indignation so matt i have a personal [02:12:53] question for you how does your faith [02:12:55] play play into this if at all [02:12:57] uh i mean my faith i'm gonna devour [02:12:59] catholics so obviously my faith lies at [02:13:01] that there we go there's a good applause [02:13:03] line [02:13:04] uh my faith is at the foundation of [02:13:05] everything that i do and believe and and [02:13:07] uh and think [02:13:09] however i would also add [02:13:11] that although i'm a devout catholic i [02:13:12] don't think that you need to be a [02:13:13] catholic or a christian or religious at [02:13:15] all [02:13:16] to with to [02:13:17] realize that men can have babies and [02:13:20] that all this gender ideology stuff is [02:13:22] crazy actually [02:13:25] the the religious faith when it comes to [02:13:27] gender ideology is on the part of the [02:13:28] gender ideologues they are that is very [02:13:31] faith-based [02:13:32] position and i think it's important to [02:13:33] keep that in mind they are the fanatics [02:13:35] they're the zealots they're the ones [02:13:37] that believe in the flat earth or some [02:13:39] sort of undefined hallucinogenic sky god [02:13:42] right they're the ones that believe in [02:13:43] the things that can't be proven can't be [02:13:45] articulated all the accusations that [02:13:48] they give against religion they're the [02:13:49] ones that actually believe there's far [02:13:51] more archaeological evidence for the [02:13:53] life death burial and resurrection of [02:13:55] jesus christ than for any of this [02:13:56] transgender nonsense not even close [02:13:59] absolutely [02:14:00] and [02:14:02] i have a soft spot for catholics closing [02:14:04] thoughts matt [02:14:06] uh well i hate to end on a sales pitch [02:14:07] but i'm a dirty capitalist pig so i have [02:14:09] to say that uh if you know if you like [02:14:12] what you saw in the film there you know [02:14:13] we we put a year of our life into this [02:14:14] film i i do think that it's actually [02:14:16] important it can make an impact on the [02:14:17] culture that's why we did it [02:14:19] and uh so i would urge you to you know [02:14:22] subscribe to the daily wire [02:14:24] watch the film [02:14:25] share it with your friends [02:14:27] it's [02:14:28] something i'm really proud of the whole [02:14:29] team is proud 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