Ben Shapiro Is Crying Again. | Candace Ep 261

[00:00:00] Okay, 911. I want to report a blood [00:00:03] liel. Blood liel. I've suffered a [00:00:07] centuries old antilack trope. That's how [00:00:11] this works, right? Like if you're in the [00:00:13] pro-Israel lobby and you deal with any [00:00:15] sort of push back or flack, you got to [00:00:17] fall to the ground and cry victim. Well, [00:00:19] it's my turn now, you guys, because [00:00:20] yesterday Ben Shapiro, who was invited [00:00:23] as a guest to join Megan Kelly on her [00:00:24] tour, he pretty much just goes mask down [00:00:28] and it's obviously hilarious. He just [00:00:30] lies. It's so weird. He just has [00:00:32] nothing. So, he lies and tries to [00:00:34] pressure Megan to respond to the lies. [00:00:37] All I can say is the pro-Israel lobby is [00:00:39] down real bad. They are writing [00:00:41] fanfiction. They're like, it's like [00:00:42] BBNet and Yahoo fanfiction. And on that [00:00:46] note, I sat down with a woman on CNN and [00:00:48] it went about as bad as you might have [00:00:50] expected. Fantastic clips that are [00:00:52] making the round. So, let's jump right [00:00:54] back into this. Happy Friday and welcome [00:00:56] back to Candace. [00:01:13] I don't know what to say other than it [00:01:15] was the purest form of antilackism [00:01:19] that I've ever experienced. I mean, it's [00:01:22] obvious to me that Ben Ben Shapiro is [00:01:24] manifestally insane. Last night, he was [00:01:27] gripping the microphone as he would the [00:01:30] neck of a black woman. I'm kidding. [00:01:33] Obviously, those are not my quotes. [00:01:35] Those are actually direct quotations [00:01:36] from Ben Shapiro himself when he accuses [00:01:39] others of anti-semitism. Whenever he [00:01:41] hears anything that he doesn't like [00:01:43] about Israel, th those are actually his [00:01:44] words. This is a real life tweet from [00:01:46] Ben Shapiro accusing any American Jew [00:01:48] who is pro-Israel of being Israel first [00:01:50] is a pure for form of anti-semitism. [00:01:53] That was directed at Nick Fuentes, which [00:01:55] we'll uh circle back to. Also, this was [00:01:58] a real tweet directed at Ron Paul. Ron [00:02:01] Paul is manifestally insane. As in [00:02:04] previous debates, he is now gripping the [00:02:06] pen [00:02:07] as he would the neck of a Jew. Ron Paul. [00:02:12] Really? And this is another tweet. Perry [00:02:15] had the memorable moments of the [00:02:17] evening. Had had the memorable moments [00:02:19] of the evening. Evening other than Ron [00:02:21] Paul's corpse leaning forward from the [00:02:23] grave and strangling the Jews. I don't [00:02:26] know what's going on, man. I don't know [00:02:28] what to say other than Ben is a funny [00:02:31] guy. He is. He's never trying to be [00:02:34] funny. He just is funny when he's being [00:02:37] serious and he's being seriously angry [00:02:40] about a topic. It's just something that [00:02:42] I enjoy to watch. And last night he got [00:02:45] on stage with Megan Kelly. They had she [00:02:47] had a tour stop in Florida. And I want [00:02:49] to say I was kind of impressed with Ben [00:02:53] because instead of doing his usual thing [00:02:55] where he sends others to do his dirty [00:02:56] work so he can keep his hands clean, he [00:02:59] was like, I'm going to peer pressure [00:03:00] Megan Kelly myself. I'm going to make [00:03:02] her disavow me. Make her disavow Candace [00:03:05] Owens. I'm going to make her disavow [00:03:06] Tucker Carlson by putting her on the [00:03:08] spot and asking her to respond to things [00:03:11] that Tucker Carlson never did and [00:03:13] Candace Owens never did or said. And [00:03:16] it's you really get to see it masked [00:03:18] down because you saw this narrative [00:03:19] circulating amongst people who were just [00:03:22] absurdly [00:03:24] making claims that I attacked Erica. And [00:03:26] I know what these organic movements look [00:03:29] like. I know how they operate behind the [00:03:30] scenes. And I know Ben plays a part in [00:03:33] this. And so it was actually quite [00:03:34] refreshing for me to be like, "Ah, now [00:03:36] everyone gets to see what you are [00:03:38] because you're saying stuff that never [00:03:39] happened." So we'll start with what he [00:03:40] said about Tucker Carlson. You should [00:03:42] know Ben has a real thing for Tucker [00:03:44] Carlson. I don't understand it. It is [00:03:47] just I don't know. It's It's been going [00:03:49] on for a long time. There's something [00:03:50] about Tucker Carlson that gets under his [00:03:53] skin. I'm not clear on it. I would [00:03:54] actually love to hear Ben speak about [00:03:56] that. I mean, people at the Daily Wire [00:03:58] when they're leaving the Daily Wire have [00:04:00] to sign agreements that they're not [00:04:02] going to go work for Tucker Carlson for [00:04:03] 6 months. It's It's strange. Anyways, he [00:04:06] jumps into this explaining his upset [00:04:09] that like Tucker left him on Red. I [00:04:11] don't know. Tucker and him had a nice [00:04:14] conversation on the day that Charlie [00:04:15] Kirk died and Tucker then sent a nice [00:04:18] text because Ben had called him and I [00:04:20] guess Ben thought there would be more of [00:04:22] a follow-up and there wasn't. So, here [00:04:23] is Ben complaining about that and then [00:04:25] spinning it into uh the accusation that [00:04:29] Tucker Carlson somehow supports mom [00:04:32] Donnie. I don't know. Take a listen. [00:04:34] >> So, I texted him and I said, "Thanks so [00:04:36] much for calling. It means the world. It [00:04:37] truly does. Should we do a show together [00:04:39] talking about the DSA threat, Democratic [00:04:41] Socialist America threat, and orienting [00:04:43] in the same direction? Happy to do [00:04:44] whatever it takes to bring everyone back [00:04:46] together for the fight that matters? And [00:04:48] Tucker then wrote back, "Thanks, man. I [00:04:50] appreciate it. I'm going to spend the [00:04:51] next week or two thinking about how to [00:04:53] be most effective. The country is [00:04:54] clearly on the brink." I reached out [00:04:56] repeatedly. After that, nothing [00:04:59] happened. Um, and again, I I thought it [00:05:01] was a good idea at the time. I I I I [00:05:04] think I felt differently after I saw [00:05:06] what he did with with Nick Fuentes and [00:05:08] after he proceeded in my opinion to [00:05:10] spend the subsequent weeks doing [00:05:12] literally nothing to fight the left. I [00:05:14] again I say this with sadness because [00:05:16] Tucker used to be I think a a deeply [00:05:18] important part of the conservative push [00:05:21] to win. [00:05:23] The number of times that Tucker Carlson [00:05:25] has mentioned Zoran Mamani since October [00:05:27] 5th on his show is once. And it was in [00:05:30] the context of Marjgerie Taylor Green [00:05:32] and Tucker Carlson talking about the [00:05:34] appeal of Zoran Mamani. Just by way of [00:05:36] contrast, not because I'm a perfect [00:05:38] representative here, but because you've [00:05:39] talked about Zor Mandani a lot. A lot of [00:05:41] us have. Since October 5th, I did 17 [00:05:43] separate shows on Zora Mamani, including [00:05:45] four in the last week before the [00:05:46] election. Okay? Because when you're [00:05:48] orienting against the left, you really [00:05:49] should orient against the left. [00:05:54] So, this just makes no sense. It makes [00:05:56] entirely no sense. He's upset because I [00:05:59] guess Tucker doesn't want to do a show [00:06:01] with him in the future. A lot of stuff [00:06:03] goes on in the background that you guys [00:06:04] don't understand. So, okay, that's on [00:06:06] Tucker. If Tucker doesn't want to collab [00:06:08] with Ben, that's on him. Also, it's [00:06:10] Tucker's platform. So, what it means [00:06:11] when you have your own show, which I [00:06:13] don't know why the shocks been, you can [00:06:15] talk about whatever you want. If Tucker [00:06:16] wants to do six months and he just wants [00:06:19] to cover sports, it's his prerogative [00:06:21] and people can tune in or they can tune [00:06:22] out. That's what the free markets mean. [00:06:24] The free markets does not mean that the [00:06:26] very same people who tried to uh [00:06:28] artificially push Tucker out of the [00:06:30] markets, the same people that applauded [00:06:32] him being fired, the same people that [00:06:33] have called him an anti-semite then get [00:06:35] to dictate what he speaks about on his [00:06:37] show. Like that that actually just makes [00:06:39] entirely no sense. It's not Tucker's [00:06:41] responsibility. Tucker's not doesn't [00:06:43] live in New York City. not his [00:06:44] responsibility to use his platform to [00:06:47] speak about Mandani 17 times. It's very [00:06:50] strange. But to the insinuation that [00:06:52] Tucker somehow supported Mandani and [00:06:54] said like nice things about him when he [00:06:56] sat down with Marjgerie Taylor Green, [00:06:58] here's actually what Tucker said with [00:06:59] Marjorie Taylor Green. And you be the [00:07:01] judge of whether you think Ben is being [00:07:03] an honest person when he describes it in [00:07:06] the manner that he just did. Take a [00:07:08] listen to Tucker. It's interesting. You [00:07:10] said a second ago that um when people [00:07:13] are really frustrated when they're the [00:07:15] system they live under fails them, they [00:07:17] listen to voices that they shouldn't [00:07:18] listen to or wouldn't listen to under [00:07:20] any other circumstance. Like how did Al [00:07:21] Sharpton get to be the leader of black [00:07:23] America or whatever. I mean, it's like [00:07:24] just it's a thing. Desperate people tend [00:07:27] to go to crappy leaders, I think. [00:07:30] And I just can't get over what happened [00:07:32] in our biggest city this week, the very [00:07:34] same week, that everybody in DC is [00:07:36] focused thousands of miles away on the [00:07:37] greatest threat we face, Iran's nuclear [00:07:39] program. I don't want Iran to have the [00:07:40] bomb. I'm not pro Iran. Obviously, [00:07:42] >> we're not pro Iran. [00:07:44] >> Yeah. [00:07:44] >> Like, [snorts] why do we have to say it? [00:07:46] >> It's done. But at the same time that [00:07:49] everybody was looking [00:07:51] >> to Iran, our largest city had a [00:07:54] Democratic primary, effectively the [00:07:56] mayor's race. and a like 32-year-old [00:07:59] socialist who wants governmentr run [00:08:01] grocery stores gets gets elected. He's [00:08:04] going to likely run our biggest city. [00:08:06] >> Yeah. In the in the country, [00:08:09] >> right? New York. [00:08:10] >> And it's like, why did that happen? Is [00:08:12] it because people are so like desperate [00:08:14] for government run grocery stores or [00:08:15] love socialism or love like foreignb [00:08:18] born midws running their cities? [00:08:20] Probably not. Mm-m. [00:08:22] >> That guy was the only person in the New [00:08:24] York City mayor's debate to say he [00:08:26] wanted to focus on New York City. They [00:08:28] were all the candidates were asked, "If [00:08:30] you could visit a foreign country, what [00:08:31] would it be?" And they of course all had [00:08:33] an answer. I think most said Israel. [00:08:35] Great. And he said, "I wouldn't go [00:08:36] anywhere. I'd stay in New York." [00:08:38] >> And like if I want to meet Jewish [00:08:40] constituents, I go to their synagogues, [00:08:41] their homes or whatever. But I'd be here [00:08:42] in New York because that's what I'm [00:08:43] doing. I'm running New York. That's my [00:08:45] job. [00:08:45] >> Well, he gave the right answer. [00:08:46] >> He gave the right answer. He gave the [00:08:48] right answer at least. And he's talking [00:08:50] I totally oppose his program just [00:08:51] absolutely [00:08:53] >> I don't think it works but um he's [00:08:56] talking about economics. [00:08:57] >> Yep. [00:08:58] >> And everyone else is talking about [00:08:59] foreign policy. [00:09:02] >> So he said what I said. I'm describing [00:09:05] to you why Manny won. And you're angry [00:09:07] that people are assessing why that [00:09:09] happened. It doesn't matter how many [00:09:10] times you call somebody an anti-semite. [00:09:12] People appreciated. It's very obvious [00:09:14] the fact that he was not focused on [00:09:17] foreign policy issues when there's so [00:09:18] many domestic ones to prove from. You [00:09:20] got to learn why you lose elections and [00:09:22] it's not Tucker's job to get people [00:09:25] elected, least of all in cities that he [00:09:27] doesn't live in. Now, I want to also [00:09:30] show you what Ben said about me because [00:09:32] it's it's so outrageous and it's so [00:09:35] dishonest that you we actually should [00:09:38] process what is happening here. Okay, [00:09:40] this is a watershed moment. Ben does not [00:09:43] have it together. He is very insecure [00:09:45] and he's going on the attack against [00:09:47] Megan Kelly by lying about what I said [00:09:50] and then forcing her to react to the [00:09:52] evil of what I never said. Here's what [00:09:54] Ben said. [00:09:56] >> We're in a business where people comment [00:09:57] on on what we say publicly. The, you [00:10:00] know, again, this is why, you know, I [00:10:02] think you and I differ on our angle with [00:10:04] regard to, for example, Candace Owens. I [00:10:06] think that what Candace Owens is doing [00:10:07] right now is evil. It is evil what she [00:10:10] is doing right now. Okay? Okay. And I [00:10:11] say that again, [00:10:13] >> but what what [00:10:15] >> I I didn't know pine on whether it's [00:10:16] evil or not, but my my position is it's [00:10:18] really none of my business. And [00:10:20] >> why is it But I have a question. Why is [00:10:22] it none of your business? I mean, you [00:10:23] you you comment on these things for a [00:10:24] living. [00:10:24] >> I'm not mother of the internet. [00:10:26] >> No, but if this were on the left and [00:10:28] somebody were accusing Charlie Kirk of [00:10:30] of his wife having murdered him, I [00:10:32] assume that you would be talking about [00:10:33] it. [00:10:33] >> Is that what Candace is accusing Erica [00:10:35] of? [00:10:35] >> Yes. [00:10:36] >> Of murdering her own husband. She's [00:10:37] She's accusing TPUSA insiders and other [00:10:40] members of the right-wing, including [00:10:41] Seth Dylan, of being involved in the [00:10:44] murder of Charlie Kirk. Yes. [00:10:47] >> It's just a It's I don't even know how [00:10:48] to respond to it because it just never [00:10:50] happened. It's so crazy. It's so He's [00:10:53] not even anywhere near what's happened. [00:10:55] Anybody who's watched this show, I [00:10:57] actually was getting flack from my [00:10:58] audience for not covering Erica's past [00:11:00] or speaking about her parents. I said [00:11:03] she gave one of the most consequential [00:11:04] speeches and I have focused my [00:11:06] investigation on Turning Point USA and [00:11:09] why they're telling certain lies. Seth [00:11:11] Dylan, I told the truth that Seth Dylan [00:11:14] lied about the Hampton's meeting and [00:11:16] that he was pushing uh he was pressuring [00:11:18] Charlie about the topic of Israel. I [00:11:20] never once accused Seth Dylan of [00:11:22] murdering Charlie Kirk. So, what's he [00:11:25] actually doing here? Right. Obviously, [00:11:27] there's a lot of layers that we should [00:11:29] peel back and it's important that we do [00:11:31] it. The least interesting part of this [00:11:33] is the fact that he's lying through his [00:11:34] teeth. That's implied he's a Zionist, [00:11:36] but there's a lot more that's happening [00:11:38] that meets the eye because Ben Shapiro [00:11:40] was effectively the final boss of the [00:11:42] pro-Israel lobby. And it's because he [00:11:46] never comes out and says what he means. [00:11:49] He's kind of like more of a [00:11:49] behind-the-scenes person. and we're now [00:11:51] watching him come undone in real time [00:11:53] because no matter who you are in this [00:11:55] age of digital media, it is simply not a [00:11:57] good idea to lie through your teeth. [00:11:59] Okay, wrong time, 2025. Before you get [00:12:02] the lie out, the internet is going to [00:12:03] clock it, right? They're going to go [00:12:04] back and be like, "You lied." And when [00:12:06] you do something like that, the blowback [00:12:08] is going to be on you. They're going to [00:12:09] go, "Actually, this now impacts your [00:12:10] credibility. You said that Candace went [00:12:13] out and said something about Erica." By [00:12:15] the way, you hear the people in the [00:12:16] background going, "Woo!" I'm going to [00:12:18] tell you what's happening there, too, [00:12:19] and you're going to see how this thing [00:12:20] really works. Point number one that I [00:12:22] want to make about how why or what Ben [00:12:25] is doing right here is just the stunning [00:12:27] hypocrisy of it. Okay, the rules for [00:12:30] thee and not for me. I am getting old. [00:12:33] My memor is getting a little fuzzy, but [00:12:35] I distinctly remember the week that I [00:12:37] was gloriously fired from the Daily [00:12:39] Wire. And during that week, the CEO of [00:12:43] the Daily Wire, at the time it was [00:12:45] Jeremy Boring, jumped onto an Xspace [00:12:48] hosted by Lauren Chen and had a [00:12:51] conversation with Nick Fuentes where he [00:12:54] sang Nick Fuentes's praises and also [00:12:57] invited him onto the Daily Wire. Okay, [00:13:00] here's a headline because the Huffington [00:13:02] Post remembers too. Daily Wire CEO tells [00:13:05] white supremacist Nick Fuentes that he's [00:13:07] talented and he's very funny. The [00:13:09] article goes on, "During a live streamed [00:13:12] conversation with white supremacist Nick [00:13:13] Fuentes last week, the CEO of the Daily [00:13:16] Wire, a major right-wing media outlet, [00:13:19] praised the prominent fascist influencer [00:13:21] and offered only mild criticism about [00:13:23] some of his political views, a stark [00:13:25] difference from how he has spoken about [00:13:27] Fuentes in the past. On March 25th, the [00:13:29] Daily Wire CEO Jeremy Boring joined [00:13:31] Fuentes on X uh for a live audio chat [00:13:35] room. Boring told Fuentes that he [00:13:36] listens to Fuentes's show quite often [00:13:40] and that he thinks Fuentes is quote [00:13:41] unquote very funny and one of the most [00:13:43] talented political influencers, even if [00:13:46] he is very concerned about some of what [00:13:48] Fuentes says. Later in the discussion, [00:13:51] Boring said that he'd be thrilled to [00:13:53] have Fuentes on one of the Daily Wires [00:13:55] shows to debate the media company's [00:13:58] popular pundits, some of whom have [00:14:00] millions of viewers. [00:14:04] this happened. So, I I want you just to [00:14:06] remember this because I feel like people [00:14:07] are not appreciating how hypocritical it [00:14:10] is that he's now trying to struggle [00:14:13] session Megan Kelly because oh, he had [00:14:15] Fuentes on the show when the Daily Wire [00:14:18] position in 2024 was that their CEO [00:14:22] could talk to Nick Fuentes publicly, [00:14:24] praise Nick Fuentes publicly, and also [00:14:26] invite Nick Fuentes onto the Daily Wire [00:14:28] platform. We can actually we should [00:14:30] actually take a listen to a little bit [00:14:32] of that conversation between Jeremy [00:14:35] Boring then CEO Daily Wire and Nick [00:14:37] Fuentes. Take a listen. [00:14:39] >> People can say well I don't like what [00:14:41] you say about this and that. I don't [00:14:43] like that guys like Shapiro cannot will [00:14:45] not say Christ is king. America first. I [00:14:47] think they forfeit their ability to [00:14:49] lead. I I would never listen to somebody [00:14:51] that can't say those things because I [00:14:53] mean those things are really the [00:14:54] foundation of wisdom which is the love [00:14:56] of God which as you say goes through the [00:14:58] sun as we all know can only go through [00:15:00] Jesus and oilia which is you know your [00:15:03] love of your home your love of your [00:15:05] homeland that you reside in not some [00:15:07] other homeland. So I just want to get [00:15:10] that across to you. It's kind of a [00:15:12] strange circumstance that we're talking [00:15:14] but that's how I feel about [00:15:15] >> and I'll say this Nick that I listen to [00:15:17] your show quite often. I think you're [00:15:19] one of the most talented people out [00:15:21] there and I'm very concerned about some [00:15:22] of the things that you're saying. I wish [00:15:25] uh I I think that you're a very gifted [00:15:29] communicator and so it's hard for me to [00:15:30] imagine that you consistently [00:15:32] miscommunicate [00:15:35] some of these things and I'll I'll hope [00:15:37] that I'm wrong and yield the floor back [00:15:39] to all the people who actually came on [00:15:40] here to talk to each other. [00:15:45] Um, anybody want to help me out? Why [00:15:47] it's now different? H, what could be [00:15:50] different now that it was okay when the [00:15:52] Daily Wire was open to doing it and then [00:15:54] Tucker did it and now it's suddenly not [00:15:56] okay and it's the worst sin that could [00:15:58] ever happen to speak to Nick Fuentes. [00:16:00] Point number two I'm going to make here [00:16:02] is the stunning hypocrisy again, okay, [00:16:05] of him picking the topic of Charlie Kirk [00:16:08] to pretend that he's noble. uh to to [00:16:11] pretend like he has to say something [00:16:13] even though he's lying in defense of [00:16:15] what's happening to Charlie Kirk's widow [00:16:18] when it is just a fact that Ben Shapiro [00:16:20] did a lot of things behind the scenes to [00:16:22] stop the rise of Charlie Kirk. It's a [00:16:24] fact. Okay, here's another text message. [00:16:27] I have literal hundreds of them [00:16:29] pertaining to Ben sending his YAF boys, [00:16:33] the AF boys, National Review peeps that [00:16:35] were coming after us writing articles. [00:16:37] the one that I showed in this little uh [00:16:39] uh our thumbnail here. Uh we can show [00:16:41] this conversation. [00:16:43] Um yeah, it was it was a headline. Ben [00:16:45] Shapiro's Yaff launches smear campaign [00:16:48] against Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens. [00:16:50] Hey Charlie, wherever you are, it's [00:16:52] happening again. It's [laughter] just [00:16:54] like just a smear campaign. I don't know [00:16:55] why, but this is what Ben does. And it [00:16:58] is also interesting that when I was [00:17:02] telling you that Ben called Charlie and [00:17:04] he was lamenting the fact that Charlie [00:17:07] and I had this friendship and warning [00:17:08] him that he shouldn't have him. Charlie [00:17:11] felt like Ben was like throwing down [00:17:13] like slave owner vibes and he was just [00:17:15] like he thinks I like own you or [00:17:16] something. But I'm going to show you the [00:17:17] text messages because otherwise you'll [00:17:19] say it didn't happen. Here we go. Uh [00:17:22] this was again everything we Ben was [00:17:24] going on people's shows and and talking [00:17:26] down about me and Charlie and he said [00:17:28] you're bigger than Ben now and walking [00:17:30] into the White House yesterday I [00:17:31] realized that. I said I know he hates [00:17:32] it. He said we just have to treat him [00:17:34] like noise. He wants you to punch down [00:17:36] to him. His respect amongst movement [00:17:38] fighters is quite low. I feel like [00:17:40] that's relevant right now to what Ben's [00:17:41] doing. He wants to egg on this fight [00:17:44] because he's lost a certain bit of [00:17:45] respect. Um, and then Charlie goes on, [00:17:48] you got in his head, which is terrific. [00:17:50] The Ben thing involves me more than he [00:17:52] wants to admit. And then we went on and [00:17:55] this is the same conversation. [00:17:58] He knows that Jon Snow, he's using a [00:17:59] Game of Thrones reference, is stronger [00:18:01] as the dragons fly higher. And he said [00:18:04] it pisses him off and he is sending his [00:18:06] incestuous brother to go try and kill [00:18:08] us. It's worse. He views you as my slave [00:18:10] 100%. Control her is what he really was [00:18:13] saying to me when he called. So this has [00:18:15] been and and by the way, like I said, I [00:18:17] have hundreds of these messages and so [00:18:18] you have to imagine being in my position [00:18:20] when you see someone who did everything [00:18:24] he could to kind of stop the rise of [00:18:26] Charlie Kirk now trying to struggle [00:18:28] session Megan who was actually a very [00:18:30] good friend to Charlie. Charlie deeply [00:18:32] respected her and towards the end [00:18:34] obviously she took a very principled [00:18:35] position on telling the truth about what [00:18:37] he was going through and Charlie dies [00:18:38] and suddenly he's like I care about this [00:18:41] evil that could be hap Candace is [00:18:43] investigating who killed her friend and [00:18:45] and she shouldn't be doing that. I mean [00:18:47] there's no way to spin it. What is his [00:18:48] suggestion here that me asking questions [00:18:51] about Turning Point USA somehow means [00:18:53] that I'm blaming Erica who wasn't even [00:18:55] working for Turning Point USA uh when [00:18:58] Charlie died because now she's the CEO. [00:19:00] Of course he doesn't believe that. And [00:19:02] it is just so to me it is truly so gross [00:19:07] to do this to a person that you know you [00:19:09] tried to block and you just now that [00:19:10] he's dead I guess you want to sort of [00:19:12] rewrite history. That's what you're [00:19:14] trying to rewrite history and pretend [00:19:15] that you're his ardent defender. Now [00:19:18] another point that I'd like to make is [00:19:20] the stunning hypocrisy again and again [00:19:23] when you stop and you consider that he's [00:19:26] pressing Megan and referring to this as [00:19:29] an evil. the thing that I never said or [00:19:31] did. But this is the same Ben Shapiro [00:19:33] that work roots the destruction of Gaza [00:19:36] on. He supports and congratulated Randy [00:19:39] Fine who has literally tweeted laughing [00:19:42] at photos of dead Palestinian babies. [00:19:46] But I guess Tucker Carlson speaking to [00:19:47] Nick Fuentes is just so much worse than [00:19:51] celebrating and not just celebrating, [00:19:53] interviewing a man who is committing an [00:19:55] actual genocide. Okay, that's not up for [00:19:59] debate. That's what they're trying him [00:20:01] for. BB Netanyahu is committing a [00:20:02] genocide and Ben Shapiro sat down with [00:20:04] him last month. And do you guys think he [00:20:07] pressed BB Netanyahu on the point of a [00:20:09] genocide? [00:20:11] I don't understand how you could just go [00:20:14] out there with your hair on your chest [00:20:17] and your chest you're just like, "Yeah, [00:20:19] how dare you? How dare you not make a [00:20:22] comment, Megan, about Tucker Carlson? [00:20:24] How dare you not make a comment? I care [00:20:26] now about Charlie Kirk now that he's [00:20:28] dead. I care about him. And what's [00:20:31] happening? Candace trying to find out [00:20:32] who killed him. That's evil. [00:20:35] You're lying. You You lie when you have [00:20:37] nothing left. So the question become [00:20:40] question becomes what is Ben actually [00:20:41] doing here? Because it's certainly not [00:20:43] principled. I think we can put that to [00:20:44] bed. It's actually also risky behavior [00:20:47] when it comes to Ben Shapiro. Like he [00:20:49] doesn't usually come out of the gate [00:20:50] like that. And I think a couple of [00:20:52] things are driving this unforced error. [00:20:55] One, I do believe that he is actually [00:20:57] scared of Nick Fuentes. Okay, I think [00:21:00] that fear comes from guilt. Nick's [00:21:02] backstory, don't care what you think [00:21:03] about him, you already know I don't like [00:21:04] Nick Fuentes because of how he treated [00:21:06] me. Um, but the backstory is compelling. [00:21:09] I learned the backstory listening to [00:21:11] Jeremy Boring, the former CEO of Daily [00:21:13] Wire, sit down with Nick. So, I right [00:21:15] after I've been fired, and I I didn't [00:21:17] know what Ben and Jeremy admitted that [00:21:20] they they did to him. And so I think if [00:21:23] you artificially push somebody out of [00:21:25] the market and Ben has never come out [00:21:27] and denied anything that Nick Fuentes [00:21:29] has said, um, also Jeremy Borington [00:21:31] denied in a conversation with him. So we [00:21:33] have to assume the story is true. And [00:21:35] given what I know about what happens [00:21:37] now, I think and what Charlie was going [00:21:39] through, I think we can all realize that [00:21:41] Nick was an 18-year-old kid like he told [00:21:43] Tucker and now the whole world knows his [00:21:44] story. He started asking questions about [00:21:46] Israel and he got artificially pushed [00:21:48] out of the market when he had his whole [00:21:49] life ahead of him. Okay? And now when [00:21:53] they did this because they wanted to rid [00:21:55] themselves of Nick Fuentes, who then [00:21:57] became angry about it and definitively [00:21:59] has said very offensive things on the [00:22:01] internet, but also he was 18, 19 years [00:22:03] old. Uh, now you see him on Tucker [00:22:06] Carlson. You don't like Tucker Carlson. [00:22:08] And I think it makes him uncomfortable. [00:22:11] I think we're in Harry Potter, right? [00:22:14] And Lord Voldemort thought he killed the [00:22:16] baby and the baby may be lit. I don't [00:22:18] even know who the dark lord is in this [00:22:20] story, but I do know I don't I don't [00:22:21] even know who he should not must not be [00:22:23] named is in the story, but I do know [00:22:25] that with Ben and Nick Fuentes, it's [00:22:27] kind of a neither can live while the [00:22:28] other survives. And Nick Fuentes seems [00:22:30] to have survived, okay, without [00:22:32] advertisers, without sponsors, without [00:22:35] connections. Um, with the entire media [00:22:39] writing things about him, being put on [00:22:41] the ADL's list, he has proven to be [00:22:43] quite resilient. And it is in large part [00:22:45] due to how hard they fight him that [00:22:48] people become curious. It's like what [00:22:49] you're we're watching kids be bombed [00:22:52] like how many people have lost their [00:22:54] lives in Gaza. And you're telling me the [00:22:55] greatest evil is is Nick Fuentes. I I'm [00:22:57] sorry. I think I can survive Nick [00:22:59] Fuentes insulting me. I don't feel the [00:23:00] need to wheel and deal behind the scenes [00:23:02] or, you know, tell Tucker not to host [00:23:04] him. I just don't care. It's just really [00:23:05] not my business. I'm like Megan. I just [00:23:06] don't care. Like, okay, if somebody [00:23:08] wants to be a fan, they can be a fan of [00:23:09] Nick Fuentes. And I I sense an [00:23:11] insecurity here in the fact that 10 [00:23:14] years on from when Ben had this thing [00:23:17] that happened to Nick Fuentes that he [00:23:19] tells a story about now Nick Fuentes is [00:23:22] still here and and Ben's influence is [00:23:24] waning. It just factually is. Okay. [00:23:28] Another thing that's happening here and [00:23:29] this is on the point of Megan Kelly and [00:23:31] and going back to the woo making it [00:23:33] sound like Ben's got a popular position [00:23:35] about me. I sense that the pro-Israel [00:23:38] lobby is on the brink of collapse. They [00:23:41] are desperate for allies, right? And [00:23:43] they're so desperate for allies that [00:23:44] they're forcing them away. That's what [00:23:46] they're doing to me and Kelly, right? [00:23:48] They're showing the world right now that [00:23:49] they are willing to lie to get what they [00:23:51] want. Ben is lying right now to get what [00:23:54] he wants. And for whatever reason, the [00:23:55] pro-Israel lobby believes that this [00:23:58] repeat failed strategy of lying and [00:24:00] threatening people is going to work. [00:24:03] Now, you might be asking, well, how is [00:24:05] Megan Kelly being threatened here? This [00:24:07] is exactly what Ben just did on stage. [00:24:09] That is exactly the moral blackmail that [00:24:12] Charlie was speaking about in the last [00:24:13] days of his life. Okay, Ben is morally [00:24:16] blackmailing Megan, right? He's sitting [00:24:18] across from her. The threat is her [00:24:20] reputation. He's standing there and he's [00:24:21] saying, "Candice is attacking a grieving [00:24:24] widow and accusing her of murdering [00:24:26] Charlie Kirk. Will you disavow this evil [00:24:29] on the spot?" And he's got these fake [00:24:31] people going, "Woo! [cheering] Woo! [00:24:33] Yeah. And you you can see Megan's [00:24:35] uncomfortable because she's like, "Well, [00:24:36] did she say that, man?" Like, "Maybe [00:24:37] that is evil. Like, that's does that [00:24:39] happen?" He doubles down. He's like, [00:24:40] "Yes." She said, "Seth Dylan murdered [00:24:43] Charlie Kirk. Do will you disavow this [00:24:45] evil on the spot? [00:24:47] That is moral blackmail. Are you a [00:24:50] better person than to accept Candace [00:24:52] Owens who has attacked a grieving widow [00:24:55] and is saying to that grieving widow [00:24:56] that you murdered your own husband?" [00:24:59] That is moral blackmail. Now, speaking [00:25:01] of on the spot, everything that you just [00:25:04] saw happen here with and Megan Kelly, I [00:25:07] hope you see this. Truly, you guys send [00:25:08] this clip to her. It's this is really [00:25:10] important. It is pre-planned. It is not [00:25:13] organic. The supporters are not organic. [00:25:16] The questions are not organic. We can [00:25:18] pull back another layer of this onion so [00:25:21] you can understand how vicious politics [00:25:22] is because it is vicious. You might [00:25:26] remember, maybe you forgot, but I spoke [00:25:28] at YWLS in 2024, right after I was fired [00:25:31] from the Daily Wire and a big thing [00:25:33] happened and we should never forget it. [00:25:35] Okay, while I was heading to speak at [00:25:38] this event, we learned because there was [00:25:41] an intern at the Daily Wire who had a [00:25:43] conscience and she felt very [00:25:45] uncomfortable with the secret mission [00:25:47] that she was put on. We learned that a [00:25:50] covert mission was happening where they [00:25:52] were sending an intern to ask me a [00:25:54] question, okay, to get my answer on the [00:25:57] question. And then what was going to [00:25:58] happen next is they were going to pass [00:26:00] around a clip, but they were going to [00:26:01] make it look like she was just a a [00:26:02] random student. Let me show you a clip [00:26:05] because we found this out. I called it [00:26:07] out on stage. Charlie intercepted. We [00:26:10] found what her name was and I called [00:26:12] this girl out on stage. Take a listen, [00:26:15] you guys. Um, the last thing that I am [00:26:17] going to say, strangely, it was just [00:26:19] such a crazy story. But as I was headed [00:26:21] in here, I got a a frantic call from [00:26:24] somebody. They did. They called me and [00:26:26] they said, "Candice, something very [00:26:28] weird is happening. The Daily Wire has [00:26:31] sent somebody secretly to record you. [00:26:34] Um, an an intern, a PR intern to [00:26:37] secretly record you, to catch you in a [00:26:40] bad moment, in a bad light. And I think [00:26:43] that that intern's name. [00:26:46] No, to be fair, it is never the fault of [00:26:49] a person when their employer is sending [00:26:52] them to do something that isn't good. [00:26:53] But I would really love it if Ariana [00:26:57] stood up. [00:27:01] Yeah. Okay. Maybe that's a little too [00:27:03] intimidating for you, too, but [00:27:05] apparently she got an email at 10 p.m., [00:27:07] hopped on a plane, is pretending to be a [00:27:08] student. Um, and so I do just want to [00:27:12] say to Ben Shapiro, [00:27:16] [cheering] [00:27:20] enough. [00:27:22] Come out into the light. Really, come [00:27:24] on. Let's do this debate. Stop sending [00:27:27] interns to do your dirty work. [00:27:36] >> I don't bite. I'm down for the debate. [00:27:39] Charlie Kirk says he will fly you out. [00:27:42] He will fly you out next week to Detroit [00:27:45] and we can do the debates on his stage. [00:27:48] Thank you, Turning Point USA. Let's take [00:27:50] some questions. [00:27:53] >> Oh, you know the Turning Point USA that [00:27:55] I wasn't a part of, but that's how it [00:27:56] went down. And Charlie was like, "Yeah, [00:27:58] that's crazy that this is happening." [00:27:59] And he's like, "Call him out on stage [00:28:00] and offer the debate and I will fly him [00:28:02] out personally to come debate you on [00:28:04] this." But this is how it works, okay? [00:28:06] They send people, they make it look like [00:28:08] it's organic. They'll send people to [00:28:10] your events and they will have people [00:28:12] applaud. That was orchestrated by Alyssa [00:28:13] Cordova now that she's not at the Daily [00:28:15] Wire. I can say that who I was calling [00:28:16] out yesterday. But it's so important for [00:28:18] people to get this. What is happening at [00:28:20] Megan's events, I will guarantee you [00:28:22] people coming and asking her questions [00:28:23] and trying to get her to disavow Tucker [00:28:25] Carlson. That is not organic. Okay? That [00:28:28] is pro-Israel people that are paid to do [00:28:30] it. Honestly, Megan, if you're watching, [00:28:32] you give me the list of your attendees. [00:28:34] I'm assuming this is a ticketed event. I [00:28:36] will find the people from they will be [00:28:38] from YAF. They will be from some [00:28:39] organization. If you let me go through [00:28:41] the names, I love an investigation. I [00:28:43] will tell you how many people were sent [00:28:44] there to go [00:28:46] and and Rorus Applaude actually trying [00:28:49] to intimidate you and to force you to [00:28:52] take a position and to make you feel [00:28:53] uncomfortable because it's a part of [00:28:55] that moral blackmail pileup. And so I'm [00:28:58] actually genuinely not upset. I don't [00:29:00] care. I I believe in the free markets. I [00:29:03] genuinely will say again, I will always [00:29:04] debate Ben Shapiro. If you know, if if [00:29:06] Tucker left you on Red and you want to [00:29:08] come on this show and you want to debate [00:29:10] Israel and you want to discuss Erica [00:29:12] Kirk and the things I never said, if you [00:29:14] want to discuss your relationship with [00:29:16] Charlie Kirk, anything that I have said [00:29:18] that you would like to dispute, my [00:29:19] platform is your platform. I'd say you [00:29:21] should come on my platform because my [00:29:23] show is bigger now. Uh but we could also [00:29:25] do yours. So, hit me up. We'll be right [00:29:28] back after a brief break. All right, you [00:29:30] guys. is I've been speaking a lot about [00:29:31] Riverbend Ranch because you guys know I [00:29:33] love their steaks. Black Angus beef that [00:29:35] is famous for its great flavor. 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I know exactly what's happening. [00:32:09] and they are going to be at every single [00:32:11] tour stop trying to struggle session her [00:32:13] and making a comment. It's just it's [00:32:14] weird. I don't know why they keep [00:32:16] demanding that she disavows uh Tucker [00:32:18] and Candace. I don't work with Megan [00:32:21] Kelly, but I know how this goes. It's [00:32:24] the it's the exact same process by which [00:32:26] the pro-Israel lobby lost Charlie Kirk [00:32:29] because eventually you just get tired of [00:32:32] being bullied and you start to sense and [00:32:33] see that it's not organic and also it's [00:32:36] not coming from your quote unquote [00:32:37] friends. I just would never do this. I [00:32:39] it it wouldn't even flash in my mind as [00:32:43] an idea that I should text Tucker [00:32:46] Carlson and tell him who he should or [00:32:47] should not have on his platform or how [00:32:49] he should use his platform. It doesn't. [00:32:51] It's just not how normal people behave. [00:32:53] And they don't understand how abnormal [00:32:56] it is. Anyways, switching gears here. I [00:32:58] got to show you a couple of clips. [00:32:59] They're going viral right now. And CNN [00:33:01] has cut these clips because they think [00:33:03] they're embarrassing to me. So, there's [00:33:05] this young woman. She's the same age as [00:33:07] me. El Reeve is her name. And I'm going [00:33:10] to be also be clear. I got very testy in [00:33:14] this interview because it was a couple [00:33:16] of days after Charlie was killed. First [00:33:18] interview I was giving. Just worked out [00:33:19] that it was CNN. It wasn't about Charlie [00:33:21] Kirk that we were we had set this up [00:33:23] before. And I decided to keep the [00:33:25] appointment. You know, I hadn't been [00:33:27] sleeping. I hadn't been eating. And this [00:33:29] woman, I guess, decided that she just [00:33:31] wanted to poke a bear. Anyways, she's [00:33:34] the one passing around this clip because [00:33:37] she thinks it totally embarrasses me and [00:33:39] shows that I'm a white nationalist. Take [00:33:42] a listen. [00:33:44] >> You can criticize Netanyahu without [00:33:46] being anti-Israel and you can criticize [00:33:48] Israel without being anti-Semitic. But [00:33:53] some of the themes, talking points, [00:33:56] concepts you've used in your criticism [00:33:58] of Israel, um, I'm very familiar with [00:34:02] from covering white nationalists for 10 [00:34:04] years. It's very unsettling for me to [00:34:06] hear things like you saying, "Our [00:34:09] government is occupied by Zionists. [00:34:10] Trump is occupied by Zionists. We're an [00:34:12] occupi occupied nation." Um because like [00:34:17] there's literally a term that's like an [00:34:19] 80s9s term from white nationalism some [00:34:21] zag Zionist occupied government. It's [00:34:24] their idea that Jews control the world. [00:34:26] And I'm wondering like [00:34:27] >> are you intentionally [00:34:30] referencing those kind of themes? [00:34:32] >> Wait, just to slow this down, are you [00:34:34] accusing me of white nationalist [00:34:35] rhetoric? Because I do have to have a [00:34:37] little bit of a giggle about that first. [00:34:38] >> Well, that's I mean to me I'm also like [00:34:40] they'd be no fan of yours. [00:34:42] >> It's just it's silly. But this is one of [00:34:44] the things where I feel like it's such a [00:34:45] lesson for CNN. This is why nobody [00:34:46] watches it anymore. I mean, it's like [00:34:47] you're sitting across from a black [00:34:49] person. You're like, I've learned about [00:34:50] White Dash and you're using White Dash. [00:34:52] >> Like I know them. I've been to their [00:34:54] rallies. I've read all their test. I get [00:34:56] it. I know. I'm so glad you're educated. [00:34:58] But this is when it's like [00:35:00] >> put it in a book and anybody will say [00:35:01] it. It's like it's just at a certain [00:35:03] point you have to use your eyes and go, [00:35:04] "Is Candace Owens promoting white [00:35:06] nationalist rhetoric?" Okay, immediately [00:35:08] no. So what else could it be? Could it [00:35:11] be that actually Zionism is is what what [00:35:14] it actually represents? [00:35:14] >> What does that mean? Like a political [00:35:17] philosophy occur. [00:35:20] Yes. I believe we are a Zionist occupied [00:35:22] government and we're not the only one. [00:35:23] Okay. Yes. And I take it to the bank. If [00:35:25] you need to walk out of here and say [00:35:27] Canon is a white nationalist for you to [00:35:28] be able [00:35:29] >> to digest it, then that's fine. You [00:35:31] know, you have to deal with that in your [00:35:32] own time. But what I will say is I stand [00:35:35] by I stand by every statement that I [00:35:37] made and I and I want to double down on [00:35:39] it. Okay. America is occupied by [00:35:41] Zionists. [00:35:44] >> I'd like to triple down on that if [00:35:45] there's anybody going. I'd like to [00:35:47] triple down on that. These tactics are [00:35:50] super boring and tired. And this is why [00:35:53] it hinges upon suppressing speech, [00:35:55] right? Constantly having to refer to [00:35:57] somebody as evil or white supremacist or [00:35:59] anti-semitic because you've lost the [00:36:02] argument on the B like there there is no [00:36:04] merit to your argument anymore. So, it's [00:36:05] all a constant struggle session of [00:36:08] semantics. And then she moves on to [00:36:12] they. Do you remember growing up when we [00:36:14] were just allowed to use the word they [00:36:16] in sentences and nobody said, "What do [00:36:19] you mean by that?" several times. She [00:36:22] just, "What do you mean by they?" as if [00:36:24] she didn't understand how to construct a [00:36:26] basic sentence. Um, and to refer back to [00:36:29] the noun. Uh, she has had no idea which [00:36:33] plural noun I was referring to. Anyways, [00:36:35] I was not really in the mood. And here [00:36:39] is our conversation about they. [00:36:43] They is a word. So like I don't need to [00:36:45] always like say they. Like it's just [00:36:47] it's just a weird it's like this is one [00:36:49] of these psychology tactics where like [00:36:51] who is they? Who is they? And it's like [00:36:52] >> because it sounds like you're saying [00:36:53] Jews. [00:36:55] >> Does the word they mean Jews? [00:36:57] >> When you're talking about Jews? Yes. [00:37:00] >> But if I'm not talking about Jews, then [00:37:01] it does they doesn't mean Jews. When I [00:37:03] say they want us to believe this or they [00:37:05] want us believe that and you hear Jews, [00:37:07] that's your own derangement, right? If I [00:37:09] want to say something about Jews, I'll [00:37:11] say it. If I want to say something about [00:37:13] Israel, I will say it. If I want to just [00:37:15] like when I want to say something about [00:37:16] black people, I'll say it. When I was [00:37:18] saying during BLM, they want us to [00:37:21] believe, nobody said, do you mean Jews? [00:37:23] Uh, and so again, it's one of these [00:37:26] trash tactics to make people fearful to [00:37:28] speak. If I want to say Jews, I will say [00:37:30] Jews. I don't fear saying Jews. When I [00:37:33] say Zionists run the media, I mean [00:37:36] Zionists run the media. People that [00:37:39] support the political ideology of Israel [00:37:42] run the media. Any other things that I [00:37:44] can help clarify? [00:37:46] >> But are you familiar with this like very [00:37:48] long-standing trope? [00:37:49] >> Give a about a trope. [00:37:55] >> I really try not to curse, but I just [00:37:57] felt like we needed to kill it real [00:37:59] quick. You know what I mean? to just get [00:38:00] her to move on from it because I I [00:38:02] really don't care and I'm so tired of [00:38:03] these words. I'm just I'm tired. I'm [00:38:05] exhausted. Are you exhausted? We're [00:38:06] tired. Collectively, we're tired. I had [00:38:08] to shut it down because I suddenly [00:38:10] realized I was homeschooling my [00:38:11] toddlers. And I told her as the [00:38:13] interview goes on, I was like, "Look, I [00:38:14] have toddlers at home. I can't teach [00:38:15] you, you know, basic sentence. I'm [00:38:17] teaching my toddlers how to read and [00:38:19] here I am. I'm teaching her how to [00:38:21] understand they in a sentence." That's a [00:38:24] It's what are we doing? How old is this [00:38:26] person? And she says she's the same age [00:38:27] as me. I'm going, you missed first [00:38:30] grade, you don't know what they means, [00:38:32] and now you're just going to It's a [00:38:34] trope. This is the way to respond. Okay, [00:38:37] just shut it down immediately. Embrace [00:38:40] whatever you're going to be called in in [00:38:43] her in this circumstance. If I got to be [00:38:44] called a white supremacist to say my [00:38:48] opinion about this administration, how [00:38:50] it's been occupied by Zionists and the [00:38:53] cruelties um that the Palestinian [00:38:55] children are suffering at the hands of [00:38:57] BB Netanyahu, then so be it. I don't [00:39:00] encourage you guys to cuss. It's a rare [00:39:03] moment. Like I said, it was a couple [00:39:04] days after Charlie Cook died and I just [00:39:05] was not in the mood. Uh but I do [00:39:09] encourage you guys to defend yourselves [00:39:10] in a similar manner. Now, uh, in that [00:39:12] same vein, if in case you guys missed [00:39:14] this going around, Eric and Laura Trump [00:39:17] spoke at a recent TPUSA event at Auburn [00:39:19] University, and it's a different era, [00:39:23] okay? The post Charlie Kirk era at [00:39:25] Turning Point USA. My guess after [00:39:28] watching this is people are going to be [00:39:30] less inclined to want to attend these [00:39:33] events. And I'm speaking about the [00:39:35] guests like Eric and Laura Trump because [00:39:38] they are getting pressed now by students [00:39:40] about Israel. Take a listen. [00:39:42] >> I'd like to ask about your father's [00:39:45] relationship with Israel. He's taken [00:39:47] over $230 million from pro-Israel [00:39:50] groups. [00:39:51] During the summer against Iran, even [00:39:55] though he advised against it, Israel [00:39:57] still attacked Iran and the US still [00:40:00] bombed on behalf of Israel. [00:40:03] Your father's frustrations with the [00:40:05] Netanyahu have been made clear when he [00:40:08] cursed on national TV over the [00:40:10] situation. [00:40:12] Israel has not been a great ally to the [00:40:14] US all the way since 1960 when they [00:40:17] bombed the USS Liberty. [00:40:20] Israel is a nation where Christians are [00:40:22] constantly under attack in both Gaza and [00:40:24] the West Bank. We talk about America [00:40:27] first and defending Christians, but how [00:40:30] can we do this if we align ourselves [00:40:32] with a nation that does not do that [00:40:34] itself? [00:40:42] There's no question my my father's had [00:40:44] frustration. In fact, I think he says [00:40:45] frustration throughout the whole [00:40:46] conflict with with both sides. At the [00:40:48] same time, make no mistake, you have a [00:40:50] nation that is chanting death to America [00:40:53] every single day on the state streets of [00:40:54] Thrron. You have a nation that will [00:40:57] develop a nuclear weapon and you have a [00:40:58] nation that will use that nuclear weapon [00:41:00] against the western way of life. There's [00:41:02] no question about it. [00:41:03] >> Uh in response to the nukes from Iran, [00:41:05] Israel has nuclear weapons and is not a [00:41:07] part of the IEA unlike Iran. Um, and [00:41:13] it's just sad to see because I've never [00:41:16] seen the American president get treated [00:41:19] the way he does by the Israeli [00:41:21] government. [00:41:23] >> Here's what I'll add. Do we or do we not [00:41:26] have phase one of a peace agreement in [00:41:29] the Middle East right now? [00:41:34] Nothing is ever going to be perfect. But [00:41:36] I'll tell you what, this president works [00:41:38] with what he has. He believes in peace [00:41:40] through strength. And whether we're [00:41:42] talking about in the Middle East, [00:41:44] whether we're talking about a 40-year [00:41:46] war like Armenia and Azeraijan, as Eric [00:41:49] just pointed out, a five-day war in [00:41:50] Thailand and Cambodia. This is a [00:41:53] president of peace. [00:41:57] I don't know. It's just it's lost its [00:42:00] edge, right? Like MAGA's over. It just [00:42:03] feel you just know it's over. It's just [00:42:04] over. And I say this, by the way, and [00:42:07] I'm always very honest with you about [00:42:08] how people are behind the scenes. Eric [00:42:09] and Laura have always been unbelievably [00:42:11] kind to me. I have nothing bad to say [00:42:13] about them as human beings. Laura works [00:42:15] very hard. Um, and Eric, by the way, [00:42:18] works very hard. Uh, you know, running [00:42:19] the Trump organization, certainly uh [00:42:21] while while his father has to go and be [00:42:23] president, he took over. But they know [00:42:25] they're not telling the truth, right? [00:42:27] They know they're not telling the truth. [00:42:28] The kids are now awake. they know about [00:42:30] Jared uh and his deals with Ivanka and [00:42:33] the Middle East and how much money [00:42:34] they're set to make and you know Gaza [00:42:36] being destroyed is actually beneficial [00:42:39] uh to their bank accounts. It just is. [00:42:41] And to think these kids and the fact [00:42:43] that he was ready to answer about the [00:42:45] nuclear that's always the threat of the [00:42:47] nuclear and that used to work like [00:42:49] generation 911 that worked doesn't work [00:42:52] anymore because we realize there's only [00:42:54] one nation that isn't following any [00:42:55] rules. There's only one nation that [00:42:56] isn't respecting America. There's only [00:42:58] one nation that generations of American [00:43:02] children uh American men are being told [00:43:04] they have to die for in in foreign [00:43:06] lands. So at at the benefit of what [00:43:09] nation? Not America. [00:43:11] Uh if America throughout all these wars [00:43:15] was not in a steep decline and actually [00:43:17] we walked around and our streets were [00:43:18] clean and we didn't have any [00:43:20] homelessness and people were not on [00:43:23] drugs, we probably would go, okay, like [00:43:26] we're up to no good in the Middle East, [00:43:27] but at least look at this country. It's [00:43:29] shining. It's amazing. [00:43:32] What's our upside? Our upside is we get [00:43:35] to get lectured and told that we're not [00:43:37] even allowed to bring up Israel on [00:43:39] college campuses or risk being like um [00:43:42] arrested [00:43:43] getting stricter on anti-semitism laws. [00:43:45] Now you're coming in for our speech and [00:43:47] you thought that this generation was [00:43:48] going to get behind it because what BB [00:43:49] bought TikTok. [00:43:51] The hypocrisy is astounding and you [00:43:53] can't survive hypocrisy. So [00:43:55] unfortunately, I think four years ago, [00:43:57] everyone thought, who's going to be the [00:43:59] next Trump family member that's going to [00:44:00] get into politics and galvanize the [00:44:02] youth movement? It's done. Dead on [00:44:05] arrival now. And it's because you guys [00:44:07] went for broke on Israel. So, you know, [00:44:09] whatever the real estate plan is in [00:44:11] Gaza, that's, you know, that's going to [00:44:14] be that's going to be the Trump legacy, [00:44:17] I suppose. And to be honest, that [00:44:19] wouldn't be the legacy that I'd want to [00:44:20] have because people are not going to [00:44:22] forget what happened there. 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[00:46:57] That's americanfinancing.net. [00:47:01] All right, jumping into some of your [00:47:02] comments here. RN Explorer writes, "Why [00:47:04] can't Tucker interview Fuentes?" Ben is [00:47:06] upset with Tucker for this. I have seen [00:47:08] this kind I have seen this kind of [00:47:09] immaturity in high school between [00:47:10] teenage girls. I'm mad at her because [00:47:12] she's talking to the girl that I don't [00:47:13] like. Ben, please stop. I agree. There [00:47:16] is something fundamentally high school [00:47:19] about it. It's so weird. And I I think [00:47:22] they truly thought this was it. Like I [00:47:23] know it's every week they renew their [00:47:25] efforts to cancel Tucker, but I think [00:47:27] they thought they had him. Like this was [00:47:28] really going to be it. And of course it [00:47:31] always backfires because people go, "How [00:47:32] immature? Why can't Nick Fuentes tell a [00:47:34] story? I just I don't understand it. I'm [00:47:36] not offended by anybody sitting down [00:47:38] with Nick Fuentes." And I I think [00:47:40] everybody should be in the free markets. [00:47:42] If Nick Fuentes loses in the free [00:47:45] markets, I want it to be because there [00:47:47] was better competition, not because he's [00:47:49] just been artificially pushed out. [00:47:50] That's that's the only way that that [00:47:52] works. Otherwise, it just it's immature. [00:47:55] Just is immature. And it's whiny, too. [00:47:58] Uh Katie Rabian writes, "Missing Charlie [00:48:00] extra today. We all deserve the truth, [00:48:02] no matter how awful it is. Please never [00:48:04] stop fighting for our brother in Christ. [00:48:05] You're in our prayers. May God bless and [00:48:07] protect you, Candace." I'm I don't I [00:48:08] don't care at all about Ben trying to [00:48:11] join people. I It's almost like they're [00:48:13] trying to peer pressure me. Like there's [00:48:16] like this threat like they want me to [00:48:17] say something bad about Erica because [00:48:18] they want me to stop investigating it. [00:48:20] Which is making me feel weird that it's [00:48:22] always the pro-Israel lobby that's doing [00:48:24] this. people that weren't friends with [00:48:25] Charlie, okay, are trying to struggle [00:48:28] session us into no longer investigating [00:48:31] uh what happened here in order for uh us [00:48:35] to in order for us to get a clean bill [00:48:36] of health of not attacking a widow. It's [00:48:38] like, oh, if you investigate, then [00:48:39] you're attacking Erica. It's a nonsense. [00:48:41] It makes me think that there's something [00:48:43] there, right? Like, what are they so [00:48:45] afraid of? Why is the pro-Israel lobby [00:48:48] in particular so afraid of any incursion [00:48:52] into the absurd storyline that the feds [00:48:56] are trying to sell us about Charlie [00:48:57] Kirk, right? It's it reeks of [00:48:59] desperation and desperation only exists [00:49:01] when there's something to hide. And [00:49:02] Israel has not been acting right from [00:49:04] the beginning of this. We know that. We [00:49:06] know Israel has not been acting right. [00:49:08] We didn't do it immediately. It wasn't [00:49:12] us. Oh, that's kind of weird. That's [00:49:14] kind of weird that you're just jumping [00:49:15] up and saying that it wasn't you. Amber [00:49:18] Lee Frazz writes, "Let's not forget that [00:49:20] he would be the one to pick up his [00:49:22] bloodstained microphone." That is right. [00:49:23] Ben did say that right after Charlie [00:49:25] died and even that it was just for me [00:49:28] knowing [00:49:29] what was between them. It was just a lot [00:49:31] for me to process. I was going through [00:49:33] so many emotions that week. I was so [00:49:34] angry. He was initial in the reaction to [00:49:37] Charlie's death. It is obvious that he [00:49:38] has an agenda. Look, everyone in [00:49:41] politics has an agenda of some [00:49:43] description. I'm not clear on what Ben's [00:49:46] is, but I sense a tremendous insecurity [00:49:48] because it is not a good step to lie [00:49:52] like that. Okay? And he knew I didn't [00:49:54] say it. There's not there's not a chance [00:49:55] that he thought that I said Seth Dylan [00:49:57] murdered Charlie Kirk or Erica Kirk [00:49:59] murdered Charlie Kirk. So, he's um [00:50:02] showing his fear. And also, like I said, [00:50:04] I think he wanted to bully effectively [00:50:07] bully Megan Kelly into a position and [00:50:09] she's trying to come up for air. And [00:50:10] she's like, "Wow, people are cheering [00:50:11] this on. Maybe Candace really did say [00:50:13] this. Maybe she did accuse Erica. That [00:50:15] would be horrible." And good for her for [00:50:17] not taking the bait and changing the [00:50:19] subject instead because she wasn't [00:50:20] certain that I had said it. Melissa [00:50:22] writes, "Canis, as a black woman, you [00:50:23] handled that interview perfectly. If [00:50:25] anybody was embarrassing, it was her [00:50:27] who, by the way, appeared to be on [00:50:28] drugs. Something was off. It was given [00:50:31] you know wine drunk mom. [00:50:35] Do you guys did you used to watch Hey [00:50:36] Arnold like Helga Pataki's mom. Yeah for [00:50:40] those of you who it's a very specific [00:50:42] reference but if you got it you got it. [00:50:45] It was giving Helga Pataki's mom. By the [00:50:48] way we watched such serious cartoons [00:50:50] when we were growing up. Tom Simpson [00:50:52] writes, "Are we sure Fuent Fuentes being [00:50:55] pushed isn't as an opt to smear the [00:50:57] anti-Israel dissident right by [00:50:58] association? I don't think he's in on [00:51:00] it, but persona Nongrada for years and [00:51:02] then on like five major pods in the same [00:51:04] month." Look, I when I invited him on my [00:51:05] podcast genuinely, I just wanted to have [00:51:07] a conversation. So, I can tell you cuz [00:51:08] I'm not an OP. But the sense that I got [00:51:09] with how he reacted and lied about how [00:51:11] we treated him is the first thing that [00:51:13] made me think he was an op because I was [00:51:14] like, "That's so weird. We were so nice [00:51:16] to you. We spoke about we spoke to you [00:51:17] behind the scenes. We planned the [00:51:19] interview, what we were going to name [00:51:20] the interview, and he was very [00:51:22] theatrical. So, I don't trust it. I've [00:51:24] been very clear. I don't trust the [00:51:25] Fuentes thing, but other people can. [00:51:29] That's on them, you know. Explorer 253 [00:51:32] writes, "Ben sounds like an immature [00:51:33] teenage girl, upset that she can't [00:51:35] control her friends or the people around [00:51:37] her. How embarrassing." Yeah. And I just [00:51:40] don't think it's going to work. I think [00:51:41] Megan Kelly is going to hold the line [00:51:43] because she did right there under [00:51:45] pressure. I just want her to know that [00:51:46] it is not organic. That is so important. [00:51:48] So for those of you um that are watching [00:51:51] both of our shows, just make sure you [00:51:53] tell her that. Uh Zamit writes, "Truth [00:51:57] is harmonic, lies are shrill." That's [00:51:59] exactly correct. Plant babies and more [00:52:01] writes, "You're amazing, Candace. You [00:52:02] owned that interview." Thank you so [00:52:04] much. I appreciate that. Amber Lee Frazz [00:52:07] writes, "They made is a giant error in [00:52:10] stopping Charlie Kirk." Oh, they made a [00:52:13] giant error. I think you had a typo [00:52:14] here. They made a giant error in [00:52:16] stopping Charlie Kirk. Now the people [00:52:18] are Charlie. Bless you, Candace. We're [00:52:20] continuing the fight. Who is they? Who [00:52:22] is they, Amber? When you say they, did [00:52:25] you know? Did you know about that manual [00:52:27] that was published in 1897? When you say [00:52:29] they, it's a longunning anti-semitic [00:52:32] word, that word they. So, please be very [00:52:34] clear if you plan on using it this [00:52:36] weekend. If anybody out there is going [00:52:38] to say they, please be very clear on [00:52:41] what you mean when you say the they, [00:52:43] okay? because her feelings aren't really [00:52:47] she studied it and she knows she knows [00:52:50] people. That's kind of the whole vibe [00:52:52] she was giving was like mom drunk. Okay. [00:52:55] Uh lastly, Jonathan writes, "Compared [00:52:57] the Islamic rules of engagement with the [00:52:59] Geneva Convention. Also, Ben says [00:53:00] Republicans should work together against [00:53:02] Mombi. Yet the DW was all about sab [00:53:05] sabotaging all the other conservative [00:53:08] media." Like I said, in general, [00:53:10] everything he was saying there felt to [00:53:12] me to be very hypocritical. And I hope [00:53:14] that I have done a very good job [00:53:16] demonstrating just how hypocritical it [00:53:18] is and how they pivot their [00:53:19] perspectives. You got to support, you [00:53:22] know, baby Netanyahu who's murderous. [00:53:24] But oh my gosh, I can't believe you [00:53:27] could you would speak to Nick Fuentes. [00:53:29] We can speak to Nick Fuentes, but you [00:53:31] can't speak to Nick Fuentes unless we [00:53:33] say you can speak to Nick. None of it [00:53:35] makes any sense. And genuinely, it's [00:53:37] just because the pro-Israel lobby is on [00:53:40] its way out. People don't like them [00:53:41] anymore because of these tactics, [00:53:43] because they're not sincere in their and [00:53:45] wanting to debate. And then even when [00:53:46] they do debate, they then do what they [00:53:47] did to Charlie Kirk and afterwards get [00:53:49] so angry that they lost the debate that [00:53:51] they try to squeeze him and tell him he [00:53:52] can never host this person ever again [00:53:53] because they lost. It's the behind the [00:53:55] scenes actions that they take and how [00:53:58] they treat people. And I mean that what [00:53:59] a terrible guest for Megan. Like she's [00:54:01] inviting you on her platform and you [00:54:03] know you've planned this session. you [00:54:04] know, you plan to press her and you [00:54:06] know, you probably planned uh to have [00:54:08] people pass around that clip uh to try [00:54:10] to embarrass her. That's that's not [00:54:12] going to bode well in the future if [00:54:13] you're if you're really looking forward [00:54:14] to having her as an ally long term. [00:54:17] That's my advice. Free to take it. Also, [00:54:19] free to come on to my platform, the [00:54:21] number one podcast in the world right [00:54:23] now, Benny. So, what's up? You want to [00:54:25] come, you can come. We can have a [00:54:26] conversation. Um, you know, I I always [00:54:30] believe in more conversation and [00:54:31] genuinely I'm not angry cuz how could I [00:54:33] be angry? Su success really is the uh [00:54:35] best revenge. We'll see you guys on [00:54:36] Monday.