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[00:00:01] Uh, Senator Graham, good to have you [00:00:03] back, sir. Heard you went on a long trip [00:00:05] to Israel and you're in Davos and uh, [00:00:07] you've become a world traveler like uh, [00:00:10] Gavin like Governor Tweety Bird uh, [00:00:13] Trump stalker and podcaster Gavin [00:00:16] Newsome and who doesn't do any work for [00:00:18] the people of California. How are you? [00:00:20] >> Good. I've been following President [00:00:22] Trump around which has been an amazing [00:00:24] experience. Uh, yeah. So, I went to [00:00:26] Israel to let people know we have your [00:00:28] back. Uh, I showed up in Davos to say [00:00:31] that Trump's the solution, not the [00:00:33] problem. All the surrender monkeys in [00:00:35] Europe kind of freak out. I'm glad we [00:00:38] have a guy in the White House that [00:00:39] people fear. I'm glad we have a guy in [00:00:42] the White House who is a peacemaker, but [00:00:44] not to be trifled with. Back here at [00:00:46] home, I'm getting very worried. [00:00:48] President Trump made a course [00:00:50] correction. He sent Tom Holman, a [00:00:52] experts expert, to try to ratchet down [00:00:55] the tension. And here's the proposal. [00:00:58] you give us people in custody uh that [00:01:01] you have that are in violation of [00:01:03] immigration law that present a danger to [00:01:06] our country, [clears throat] then we [00:01:08] will ratchet down the pressure. They [00:01:10] said no. Sanctuary cities, there are 12 [00:01:13] states that have sanctuary cities. What [00:01:16] does that mean for you? It means that as [00:01:18] long as there's a sanctuary state or [00:01:20] city, illegals will keep coming thinking [00:01:23] if they can get to one of these states [00:01:24] or cities, they never leave. These [00:01:27] states are rampant with fraud around [00:01:29] illegal immigrants. Look at what [00:01:31] happened in Minnesota. And if you allow [00:01:33] a state to ignore federal law that's [00:01:36] been on the book for 30 years, you'll [00:01:38] have chaos. Steven Miller is not the [00:01:40] problem. Sanctuary city policies are the [00:01:43] problem. When the mayor of Minneapolis [00:01:46] basically told President Trump, "Go take [00:01:48] a hike." He's made this far worse. So, [00:01:50] what do we do next? We take legislation [00:01:53] that I'm working on with the White House [00:01:56] that would end sanctuary city policy [00:01:58] forever. It would tell these 12 states, [00:02:01] "If you keep violating existing federal [00:02:03] law, you're going to be punished to try [00:02:06] to get a solution here." I'm dying to [00:02:08] have that vote on the United States uh [00:02:10] Senate floor. 80% of Americans do not [00:02:13] like sanctuary cities. It rewards [00:02:16] illegal behavior. It breaks down law and [00:02:18] order order order and is a cesspool of [00:02:21] uh fraud. I want to vote on the floor of [00:02:24] the United States Senate where we the [00:02:25] Republicans say end this policy end the [00:02:29] madness and see what Democrats would do. [00:02:31] It's important we have that vote because [00:02:33] President Trump told me he wants to end [00:02:36] sanctuary city policies forever. It [00:02:38] takes a vote on the floor of the Senate. [00:02:40] I hope we'll get that vote. [00:02:42] >> Well, I mean the Republicans have the [00:02:44] majority in the Senate. What would [00:02:46] prevent that? legislation that vote from [00:02:48] happening. [00:02:48] >> Well, well, you know, we gota, you know, [00:02:50] we got some rules, but nothing really to [00:02:52] be honest with you. Don't you think it's [00:02:54] now time to call the question? Again, [00:02:56] the ICE agents, they're trying to [00:02:59] protect us. People make mistakes, but [00:03:01] the chaos in Minnesota is a direct [00:03:04] result of ignoring the law, having 11 [00:03:08] million people come into our country, [00:03:11] invading the country. During the Biden [00:03:13] years, President Trump said, "I want to [00:03:15] clean this mess up." He's trying to [00:03:18] ratchet down tensions. They will not [00:03:21] turn over to the federal government [00:03:23] people they have in their jails in [00:03:24] Minnesota that are criminals in [00:03:26] violation of the law have arrest [00:03:28] warrants. This is insane. So, the next [00:03:32] thing I want to see happen is a vote on [00:03:34] the floor of the United States Senate [00:03:36] where we decide which party we want to [00:03:38] be in charge. Do you want the party that [00:03:41] likes sanctuary cities to be in charge? [00:03:44] That would be the Democrats. Do you want [00:03:45] a party like us who would like to end [00:03:47] this madness? It is easy to understand. [00:03:49] It would be political malpractice not to [00:03:51] have that vote. [00:03:53] >> All right. So, by definition, if you're [00:03:56] a sanctuary city or state, isn't that by [00:04:00] definition aiding, abetting in in law [00:04:04] breaking, and even rewarding law [00:04:06] breakers? Look at California for [00:04:08] example. I mean, they have the highest [00:04:10] income taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, [00:04:12] corporate taxes. Now, they they're going [00:04:14] to have a referendum on on stealing, you [00:04:18] know, 5% of the wealth of billionaires [00:04:20] out in Silicon Valley, out in [00:04:22] California. Though, by the way, 21 uh 20 [00:04:25] of 21 interviewed said they are leaving [00:04:27] now because it would be retroactive back [00:04:30] to January of this year when that [00:04:31] referendum, if it's passed in November, [00:04:33] they're they're getting out. They're [00:04:34] leaving. and with them goes billions and [00:04:37] billions of dollars and and god knows [00:04:39] how many hundreds of thousands of jobs [00:04:41] with it. Uh that's insane that they [00:04:44] would put that on the ballot. But by [00:04:46] definition, you're aiding and abetting [00:04:48] and then you're rewarding by offering [00:04:50] free health care and education and other [00:04:53] services to illegals uh in your state. [00:04:56] Now, in this case, uh I think it takes [00:04:59] it a step further because if Mayor, you [00:05:01] know, Small Fry and and Governor Timmy [00:05:03] Walls, if in fact they do resist [00:05:07] assisting ICE, uh at that point, how are [00:05:10] they not obstructing justice? [00:05:13] >> Well, I think they are. So, what is a [00:05:17] sanctuary city or state? The state or [00:05:21] local government chooses to ignore [00:05:24] existing federal law. The laws we're [00:05:26] talking about have been on the books [00:05:28] long before Donald Trump came along. [00:05:31] Under the law, the federal government [00:05:33] when it comes to national immigration is [00:05:35] supreme. You can't have 50 different [00:05:38] immigration policies. The federal [00:05:40] government sets national immigration [00:05:42] policy. 12 states have said to the [00:05:45] federal government, "Go to hell. We're [00:05:47] going to ignore the law." Now, what does [00:05:48] that mean for those of 38 states? It [00:05:51] means we'll never stop illegal [00:05:53] immigration because sanctuary cities are [00:05:55] magnets. It means you'll continue to [00:05:57] have benefits ripped off because it's a [00:05:59] mess. It means you'll continue to have [00:06:02] law and disorder. So for the country, we [00:06:05] need to end the madness. President Trump [00:06:07] is trying to ratchet down the pressure. [00:06:09] They're trying to increase the pressure. [00:06:12] And I will say again, I would love a [00:06:14] vote on the floor of the United States [00:06:15] Senate and let the American people [00:06:17] decide what they want. And here's what [00:06:19] they've decided. 70 80% of the American [00:06:23] people hate the idea of sanctuary city [00:06:26] policy, ignoring laws designed to [00:06:29] benefit us all and make us safe. These [00:06:32] 12 states have ignored laws on the books [00:06:35] for 30 years, creating chaos. I want a [00:06:38] vote, Sean. I want a vote on whether or [00:06:41] not Democrats love sanctuary city policy [00:06:44] so much they would be unwilling to [00:06:47] change it in the face of all this [00:06:48] madness. I think it's the defining issue [00:06:51] of 2026. [00:06:53] >> What is going to happen now? The DHS has [00:06:57] identified 1360 [00:07:00] criminal illegal aliens in the criminal [00:07:02] justice system currently in Minnesota. [00:07:05] They want those people turned over to [00:07:07] immigration services. [00:07:09] >> Tom Hman is there advocating for such. [00:07:12] >> If if the mayor refuses to cooperate, [00:07:15] the governor refuses to cooperate. It [00:07:17] seems to me that they're looking for a [00:07:19] confrontation and a showdown. Um you [00:07:22] mentioned the you said the word [00:07:24] supremacy. We have a constitution. We [00:07:27] have a supremacy clause [00:07:29] >> and it's very simple. jurisdiction to [00:07:31] enforce federal law lies with the [00:07:33] federal government, not with local or [00:07:35] state governments. As a matter of fact, [00:07:37] they have no jurisdiction even going [00:07:39] after federal agents that are are [00:07:43] responding uh in the line of duty. They [00:07:45] don't even have a case to be made here. [00:07:48] So, with all of that said, what happens? [00:07:51] I mean, do they want to get arrested? [00:07:53] They do they want to become martyrs? Do [00:07:55] they think that there's a political [00:07:56] benefit for them? [00:07:58] Clearly, they think there's a political [00:08:00] benefit to them, but I think they're [00:08:01] miscalculating. [00:08:03] Again, the American people are [00:08:05] fair-minded. Nobody wants crooks to stay [00:08:08] around. Um, at the end of the day, the [00:08:12] people that you just named are in [00:08:14] custody at the state level for violating [00:08:17] laws on the books. They're dangerous. [00:08:21] These are not just somebody working in a [00:08:23] taco stand. If they get away with this [00:08:26] where they tell the federal government, [00:08:27] "We're not going to follow federal law." [00:08:30] That leads to chaos. So, there's a [00:08:32] couple things to do. You can go to [00:08:34] court, but you can also have Congress [00:08:37] weigh in. What did President Trump ask [00:08:39] Congress to do? Pass a law that would [00:08:43] end sanctuary city policy forever. Now, [00:08:46] what would that law look like? If you [00:08:47] defy federal law, then the benefits [00:08:51] coming from the federal government will [00:08:52] be terminated. So, states will have to [00:08:54] pick assistance to their states, uh, to [00:08:57] their people over love for illegal [00:08:59] immigration. What have we learned? The [00:09:01] Democratic Party picks the illegal [00:09:03] immigrant over law and order. The [00:09:05] Democratic Party picks illegal [00:09:07] immigrants over cracking down on fraud. [00:09:11] This is a very big deal. This is a [00:09:13] defining moment really in in American [00:09:16] history. Are we going to allow 12 states [00:09:19] to openly defy laws on the books that [00:09:22] protect us all? And if they get away [00:09:24] with it, there's no end to this. [00:09:28] >> Yeah. Well, I'm going to say this. You [00:09:30] know, this is now becoming the biggest [00:09:32] choice midterm election in our lifetime. [00:09:34] You want open borders or closed borders? [00:09:36] Do you want sanctuary cities and states [00:09:38] or do you want law and order? Um, do you [00:09:41] want defund, dismantle, uh, reimagine [00:09:44] the police, no bail laws, or do you [00:09:46] want, you know, a police department free [00:09:48] to do their job, uh, so you can be safe [00:09:50] and secure in pursuit of happiness? Uh, [00:09:53] do you want lower taxes because [00:09:55] Democrats just voted for the largest tax [00:09:57] increase in history, while Republicans [00:09:59] voted for the largest tax cut in [00:10:01] history? Do you want lower energy prices [00:10:03] or higher energy prices? Uh, this is [00:10:06] simple, basic, fundamental choices that [00:10:08] people have to make. [00:10:09] >> Yeah. And and I'm not sure, you know, I [00:10:12] mean, is the Senate going to defund ICE? [00:10:16] I mean, as that fight now continues in [00:10:18] in the halls where you work every day. [00:10:21] >> This is really a good question. Um, the [00:10:24] Democrats are refusing to fund the [00:10:27] Department of Homeland Security. 80% of [00:10:31] the DHS budget has nothing to do with [00:10:33] ICE or Border Patrol. 35% of the DHS [00:10:37] budget, Department of Health, uh, [00:10:39] Homeland Security, is FEMA, the Coast [00:10:42] Guard. These people are nuts. They're [00:10:45] refusing to fund the Department of [00:10:47] Homeland Security because they hate [00:10:49] Trump. They uh, apparently doubling down [00:10:52] on love for illegal immigration. This [00:10:54] would hurt the Coast Guard. It would [00:10:56] hurt FEMA. This is insane. So, are we [00:10:59] really going to shut the federal [00:11:00] government down to preserve sanctuary [00:11:03] city policy? Are they that crazy that [00:11:06] they would literally defund the [00:11:08] Department of Homeland Security at time [00:11:09] of great threat? There's one thing you [00:11:12] need to add to your list. We now have a [00:11:13] commander-in-chief that's by no means an [00:11:16] interventionist, but if you're a [00:11:17] terrorist, you're going to pay a heavy [00:11:19] price if you defy him. The days of Obama [00:11:22] and Biden drawing red lines and doing [00:11:25] nothing about it are over. To the people [00:11:27] of Iran, the president said, "Keep [00:11:29] protesting. Help is on the way." I [00:11:31] believe him. to the people of the United [00:11:33] States. The ayatollah is a homicidal [00:11:35] maniac. He's a religious Nazi. Donald [00:11:38] Trump is going to deal with him. They've [00:11:39] killed 35,000 people. The days of [00:11:42] disorder in the world are over. Donald [00:11:44] Trump inherited a mess. [00:11:46] >> Well, he secured the border in a year. [00:11:48] Amazing story. When it comes to Trump, [00:11:50] the best is yet to come. [00:11:52] >> It looks like help has arrived as the [00:11:54] USS Abraham Lincoln has arrived in the [00:11:57] waters in the Middle East. Um, now it's [00:12:00] a question in my mind. Now, the [00:12:03] president and the White House said that [00:12:04] the Ayatollas, the Mullas, the, you [00:12:08] know, suicidal maniacs, as you call [00:12:10] them, and religious Nazis, as you call [00:12:13] them, uh, are are now hiding apparently [00:12:16] in a bunker somewhere. But my [00:12:18] expectation is any day now they'll [00:12:20] probably end up on a plane in a tarmac [00:12:23] filled with gold and silver and and [00:12:25] billions of dollars and get the hell out [00:12:27] of there and probably head to Putin's [00:12:29] Russia. Uh what's going to happen next [00:12:31] in your view? [00:12:32] >> I just think that President Trump, you [00:12:34] know, he's not Obama, he's not Biden, he [00:12:36] doesn't draw red lines. When asked by [00:12:38] the world press what should the [00:12:39] protesters do? He said keep protesting. [00:12:41] Help is on the way. Okay, I believe him. [00:12:45] But if for some reason, you know, we [00:12:47] pull the plug, the day after that would [00:12:49] be a disaster. It' be worse than [00:12:51] anything I think of. Donald Trump's not [00:12:53] gonna let that happen. So, the Ayatollah [00:12:56] does not mind killing his own people. [00:12:58] He's a religious Nazi. Uh, it is now [00:13:01] time to end the madness in Iran because [00:13:03] it affects you. If they ever got a [00:13:04] nuclear weapon, they would use it. So, [00:13:06] the people in the streets dying by the [00:13:09] thousands, I think, would be our [00:13:11] friends. The Ayatollah will never be our [00:13:13] friends. Israel is ready to go. I don't [00:13:16] know what's going to happen, when it's [00:13:18] going to happen, but I know this. When [00:13:19] Donald Trump tells you something, you [00:13:21] need to listen. [00:13:23] >> I don't think I could say it any better. [00:13:25] Senator Lindsey Graham, thank you. We [00:13:26] appreciate you being with us.