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[00:00:00] And hey, cuz I worked with a bunch of [00:00:01] stupid white people. [00:00:02] >> Lawrence. Lawrence is his name. [00:00:03] >> Yeah, Lawrence. Yeah, [00:00:04] >> Lawrence. What do you think of him? [00:00:06] >> I mean, he's just a sellout. He's a [00:00:07] cocoon. [00:00:07] >> Clarence Thomas, [00:00:09] >> the biggest [ __ ] of them all. [00:00:10] >> What do you think of Candace Owens? [00:00:12] >> Another. [00:00:13] >> Have you ever heard of a guy named um [00:00:15] No, his name is James O'Keefe. [00:00:17] >> Well, the thing is is that um I actually [00:00:19] am James O'Keefe. [00:00:22] >> Are you really? [00:00:23] >> Yeah. [00:00:23] >> No, you're not. [00:00:25] >> No, I'm not. I'm not James O'Keefe. [00:00:27] >> No, you're not. I am [00:00:29] >> really. [music] [00:00:30] >> Yes. [00:00:31] >> And you you don't know that [00:00:42] go. [00:00:51] >> You all right? You all right? All right. [00:00:53] You all right? Okay. [00:00:57] >> He calmed. We quote black people quote [00:00:59] coups. [00:01:03] >> Whoa, whoa, whoa. [00:01:08] >> That's that's a misdemeanor. You can't [00:01:09] >> Jonathan Franklin, the man you see [00:01:11] across on an undercover date with me, is [00:01:13] currently an adjunct professor at [00:01:15] Georgetown University. Franklin is [00:01:17] scheduled to teach a class on sourcing [00:01:19] and interviews technology in the spring. [00:01:22] More on that later. Franklin is also a [00:01:24] former correspondent from National [00:01:25] Public Radio that wrote about issues [00:01:28] concerning race, culture, identity, and [00:01:31] justice. Now, in our meeting, Jonathan [00:01:34] claimed he was a national correspondent [00:01:36] for CBS, a detail that I believed at the [00:01:39] time. I later discovered that this was [00:01:42] false and that he was lying to me. [00:01:44] Lawrence. Lawrence is his name. [00:01:46] >> Yeah, Lawrence. Yeah, [00:01:47] >> Lawrence. What do you think of him? [00:01:48] >> I mean, he's just a sellout. He's like a [00:01:50] goon. Hershel Walker like all them like [00:01:52] >> Clarence Thomas [00:01:54] >> the biggest [ __ ] of them all. [00:01:55] >> What do you think of Candace Owens? [00:01:58] >> Yeah situations [00:02:01] >> annoying crazy. [00:02:02] >> She's pregnant. [00:02:04] >> So is she another like what you said [00:02:07] >> another? [00:02:08] >> Yeah. [00:02:08] >> Yep. [00:02:09] >> She is. [00:02:10] >> She is. [00:02:12] >> She sells out to like white people. [00:02:14] >> Yeah. [00:02:16] >> Sell your soul to the to the Uncle Sam [00:02:18] the white man. And it's just assuming [00:02:19] that aligning your views with them or [00:02:22] with that point of view is going to get [00:02:24] you ahead. It's actually going to set [00:02:26] you back. [00:02:26] >> Yeah. Cuz I work with a bunch of stupid [00:02:27] white people. [00:02:28] >> Stupid white people. [00:02:29] >> Yeah. Like a spade is a spade. [00:02:32] >> Like I am ashamed to be honest with you. [00:02:35] I wear a white girl. Like [00:02:37] >> No, you're fine. [00:02:37] >> I'm so ashamed of of my my race. Candace [00:02:40] is a is a cocoon, too. [00:02:43] >> Yeah. [00:02:44] >> Or a sellout. Sellout's like the We [00:02:46] could just go with sellout. What's the [00:02:47] difference between the two? [00:02:48] >> I mean, it's basically interchangeable, [00:02:49] but sellout is more of like politically [00:02:51] correct. [00:02:51] >> Jonathan Franklin's body of work while [00:02:53] at NPR was focused on black culture, [00:02:56] race, and justice. And here he is [00:02:58] throwing around racial slurs. During the [00:03:01] date, I encouraged Jonathan to speak his [00:03:03] mind and tell the public what he really [00:03:04] thinks with the career that he's had. [00:03:07] You should say this publicly. I [music] [00:03:09] mean, like, it would be interesting, [00:03:10] refreshing. [00:03:11] >> A lot of people would not like to hear [00:03:12] my thoughts. I mean, people probably [00:03:14] would. They probably, you know what? [00:03:15] Yes, I was thinking that. But [00:03:16] >> you are a journalist. You know, [00:03:19] >> I'd have to stop being a journalist for [00:03:20] me to say what I really want to say. [00:03:22] >> That's crazy though. [00:03:23] >> To give y'all what I really want to say, [00:03:26] you have to stop being a reporter. [00:03:27] >> You have to stop being a reporter. [00:03:29] >> I would have to I would have to exit [00:03:30] news. [00:03:31] >> Now, there is there is um there is um [00:03:34] one group or one guy that I don't know [00:03:36] if I like him, but that does do the [00:03:38] thing you're talking about, though. [00:03:41] >> Forgot his name. [00:03:42] >> I mean, I can easily go into like [00:03:43] opinion journalism, but But what what a [00:03:45] profound statement. Say that again. [00:03:46] Yeah. So interesting. I have to stop [00:03:48] being a reporter. [music] [00:03:50] Tell you what I really think. [00:03:51] >> Yeah. But you don't have to do that. You [00:03:53] could still [00:03:54] >> Oh, I I I don't give a [ __ ] Like, but [00:03:56] in terms of I'm like on the clock [00:03:57] >> and then I reveal myself as James [00:04:00] O'Keefe. You might be wondering why [00:04:01] Jonathan Franklin didn't recognize me in [00:04:03] the first place being a professor, a [00:04:05] graduate level professor on media and [00:04:08] journalism. And Jonathan Franklin [00:04:10] actually refuses to believe that I'm [00:04:12] James O'Keefe. He even said how [00:04:14] disguised I was. It was literally just a [00:04:16] pair of glasses. [snorts] [00:04:17] >> Have you ever heard of the guy named um [00:04:19] No, his name is James O'Kee. [00:04:21] >> You heard of that? [00:04:22] >> Yes. [00:04:23] >> Yeah. I don't like him. [00:04:27] >> What do you think of him? [00:04:29] >> He's all right. [00:04:30] >> He's all right. [00:04:31] >> Yeah. Could be better. Could be worse. [00:04:32] >> Could be worse. [00:04:33] >> What could be better? [00:04:34] >> Could be. What? How could he be better? [00:04:36] >> Just be an [ __ ] [00:04:37] >> Is he an [ __ ] [00:04:39] >> I've heard people he's an [ __ ] Oh, [00:04:41] well, he does like the undercover stuff [00:04:43] and like exposes people, you know, and [00:04:45] he exposes people, you know, telling [00:04:47] them telling people like what they [00:04:48] really think, you know. [00:04:49] >> What do you think about that? [00:04:50] >> I mean, there's there's there's a lane [00:04:52] for that, but it's also knowing [00:04:55] >> how to do it in a way that doesn't [00:04:57] attack your integrity. [00:04:59] >> Yeah, cuz you have to use like hidden [00:05:00] cameras and [ __ ] right? [00:05:02] >> Yeah. There's a way to do that sort of [00:05:04] like watchdog [00:05:06] gotcha ambush journalism, but doing it [00:05:07] in a way that doesn't disrespect the [00:05:09] person that you're trying to catch or [00:05:12] yourself as a reporter. [00:05:13] >> CBS used to do it like way back in the [00:05:15] day like it with 60 Minutes and Mike [00:05:16] Wallace and [00:05:18] >> Well, um [00:05:20] yeah. Um [00:05:24] well, the thing is is that um I actually [00:05:26] am James O'Keefe. [00:05:28] >> Are you really? [00:05:29] >> Yeah. No, you're not. [00:05:31] >> No, I'm not. I'm not James O'Keefe. [00:05:34] >> No, you're not. [00:05:35] >> I am. [00:05:36] >> Really? [00:05:36] >> Yes. [00:05:38] >> And you you don't know that? [00:05:58] You all right? You all right? All right. [00:05:59] You all right? Are you okay, [00:06:00] >> sir? He's He just fell. Are you okay? [00:06:04] >> No. [00:06:05] >> Are you okay? [00:06:06] >> No. [00:06:08] >> Do you want us to call an ambulance? [00:06:10] >> No. [00:06:10] >> Are you sure? [00:06:11] >> Sure. [00:06:12] >> Are you injured? [00:06:13] >> Yes. [00:06:14] >> What happened? [00:06:14] >> I fell. [00:06:15] >> You have blood? [00:06:16] >> Are you okay? [00:06:16] >> Yes. [00:06:18] >> We don't want you to get injured. Yes, [00:06:20] I'm injured. [00:06:20] >> That's not our intent. [00:06:21] >> I'm injured. [00:06:22] >> Do you need us to to call for help? [00:06:24] >> No. [00:06:25] >> Okay. Are you sure you're okay? [00:06:28] >> No, I'm not. [00:06:30] >> Sir, [00:06:32] you called you called black people [00:06:34] quotons. [00:06:36] You work for CBS News. You're a national [00:06:38] correspond. [00:06:43] >> That's That's a That's a misdemeanor. [00:06:45] You can't [00:06:45] >> I was sued. Stop. [00:06:47] >> Okay. I will I will stop. I just want to [00:06:49] ask you, why did you call black people [00:06:53] coons? [00:06:54] >> Stop. [00:06:54] >> That work from the media. [00:06:56] >> Stop. [00:06:56] >> You sue. [00:06:57] >> What's that? [00:06:58] >> Stop. I will sue. Stop. [00:06:59] >> Sue me for what? [00:07:00] >> Stop. [00:07:01] >> I'm a reporter. [00:07:02] >> No. Don't. [00:07:03] >> You work for CBS News. You're a national [00:07:05] correspondent. [00:07:06] >> I don't work for CBS. [00:07:08] >> You don't? [00:07:08] >> No. [00:07:10] >> You lied about that? [00:07:12] >> Yes. [00:07:13] >> Did you work for NPR? [00:07:14] >> No. [00:07:16] >> What's going You're denying your own [00:07:17] identity? Yes. [00:07:18] >> Now, we're grateful that Jonathan [00:07:20] Franklin wasn't seriously hurt during [00:07:22] that tumble he took falling to the [00:07:24] ground after he ran away from me at the [00:07:27] table. It's too important to remember [00:07:28] that even if you don't agree with [00:07:30] someone, they are first people. And our [00:07:33] intention is not to hurt them, is to [00:07:35] expose the truth that the public has a [00:07:37] right to know, that the citizens have a [00:07:39] right to know, that the students at [00:07:40] Georgetown and the parents have a right [00:07:42] to know. Jonathan willingly came with us [00:07:45] when we offered to help him after his [00:07:47] fall. We took him to a pharmacy and got [00:07:50] him some band-aids. [00:07:51] >> But let me I want to help you. You're [00:07:52] bleeding. [00:07:54] Let's give you some napkins. Okay. [00:07:57] >> You okay? [00:07:59] >> Is there? [00:08:07] >> You got your stuff. [00:08:09] >> Thank you. [00:08:12] I was sitting outside for a little bit. [00:08:14] >> Some water. [00:08:15] >> Yeah. [00:08:15] >> Why don't you have some water here? [00:08:17] >> You worked for NPR and you know work for [00:08:20] NPR. [00:08:21] >> When did you be there? [00:08:22] >> I think December. [00:08:24] >> You told me a lot of different things. [00:08:25] So I can't decipher what's true and [00:08:27] what's not. [00:08:27] >> December. [00:08:30] >> What's the reason why you told me you [00:08:31] work for CBS News? [00:08:33] >> Just as a cover. [00:08:35] >> As a cover. We were able to verify that [00:08:37] Jonathan Franklin actually does teach a [00:08:40] course at Georgetown. He did and he will [00:08:44] in the first semester of this coming [00:08:46] year, just one month from now in January [00:08:48] 2026. He's been teaching, ironically, [00:08:50] about how to quote find sources and [00:08:53] interview them effectively. [00:08:55] >> There's a class that I have, it's for a [00:08:57] sourcing and interview tech class in [00:08:59] journalism. You know, journalists [00:09:01] finding sources, ask questions for a [00:09:03] living, how you network, that kind of [00:09:04] stuff. So when you go to schedule [00:09:06] classes, it's going to be register [00:09:08] schedule.jorgetown.edu. [00:09:10] >> And then here's a CRN just to confirm. [00:09:12] >> Taught by Professor Franklin, Professor [00:09:14] Parker. [00:09:15] >> Yes. So I see Parker Lane and Franklin [00:09:17] Jonath. [00:09:18] >> Now, what Jonathan Franklin says about [00:09:19] not being able to say what's on his mind [00:09:22] is interesting. [00:09:23] >> They give y'all what I really want to [00:09:24] say and you have to stop being a [00:09:26] reporter. [00:09:26] >> Historically, [clears throat] a [00:09:27] journalist not saying what he thinks [00:09:29] might be seen as a type of ethical [00:09:31] restraint. If he means to say, "I can't [00:09:34] let my biases contaminate my reporting," [00:09:36] then perhaps that might be be considered [00:09:38] ethical. Now, if he's saying, "I can't [00:09:40] speak truthfully," it might indicate a [00:09:42] problematic culture as a professor or in [00:09:45] a newsroom. But this notion of [00:09:47] objectivity when a professor of [00:09:50] journalism is using slurs in public, [00:09:52] well, that's a fiction. We here have a [00:09:54] whole library of books on journalism [00:09:56] ethics. This is one of my favorites [00:09:57] called Ethical Journalism, a guide for [00:10:00] students, practitioners, and consumers [00:10:02] written by Philip Meyer. And he writes [00:10:04] that reporters adapt models into which [00:10:07] they can fit their objective facts. In [00:10:09] addition to being guides to [00:10:10] interpretation, those models Walter [00:10:12] Litman, the dean of journalism 100 years [00:10:15] ago, called them stereotypes. They also [00:10:17] helped us select with aspects of the [00:10:19] objective world to look for. Now, in [00:10:22] this other book, News Values, a guy [00:10:23] named Jack Fuller, he was actually uh [00:10:26] the president and publisher of the [00:10:28] Chicago Tribune, Fuller writes that [00:10:31] objectivity is a hopelessly naive [00:10:33] notion. Nobody has ever achieved [00:10:36] objective journalism, and no one ever [00:10:37] could because of the biases of the [00:10:39] observer, especially one who's writing [00:10:42] those articles, quite unlike us who just [00:10:44] captures people on video. The biases of [00:10:46] the observer/writer [00:10:48] always enters the picture coloring the [00:10:50] details at least guiding the choice. It [00:10:54] is the inevitable consequence of the [00:10:56] combination of one's experience and [00:10:57] inbredad nature. The process of [00:11:00] correction requires a self-conscious [00:11:03] mental intervention that is at odds with [00:11:06] the concept of objectivity. When someone [00:11:08] who harbors openly racist beliefs with a [00:11:11] stranger they just met just a minute or [00:11:14] two after meeting him in a public place [00:11:17] where people can overhear you. Now, that [00:11:20] professor of journalism cannot possibly [00:11:23] meet these standards taught in these [00:11:25] journalism ethics textbooks that are in [00:11:27] my library here at OMG to teach [00:11:29] journalism at a prestigious school like [00:11:31] Georgetown in DC covering political [00:11:34] issues because that type of racism is [00:11:37] not just his personal opinion. It is a [00:11:40] bias about a group of people that [00:11:42] directly affects fairness, credibility, [00:11:45] and judgment. Why? because he's a [00:11:48] professor who's using these slurs. He's [00:11:51] revealing a framework that shapes how he [00:11:55] interprets information. And that's why [00:11:57] we thought you should see this report. [00:11:59] And that's why we thought the public [00:12:00] should know this report. And it's part [00:12:02] of our process of showing you what's [00:12:05] happening inside the universities in [00:12:06] addition to what's happening inside the [00:12:08] government. It doesn't take too much of [00:12:10] a disguise either. As I like to say, [00:12:13] it's not your disguise that matters. [00:12:15] It's your manner that's more important [00:12:17] than your costume. And if you're in the [00:12:19] inside, you know who to call. Not [00:12:21] Ghostbusters, but O'Keeffe Media Group [00:12:24] on our signal number here. Our email [00:12:26] address here, tipskegroup.com, [00:12:29] 914-491-9395. [00:12:32] We're actively recruiting undercover [00:12:34] journalists. O'Keefeundercover.com. 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