Senator Hawley Calls For Minnesota AG Keith Ellison To Be INDICTED
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[00:00:00] Mr. Ellison, let me start with you.
[00:00:01] You're the attorney general of the state
[00:00:02] of Minnesota. Do I have that correct?
[00:00:05] >> That's a yes.
[00:00:06] >> Sir, you're aware of my job. You know
[00:00:08] the answer to that.
[00:00:09] >> Is you're not going to answer my
[00:00:10] questions. Are we going to start this
[00:00:11] way? Are you the attorney general of the
[00:00:12] state of Minnesota? Yes or no?
[00:00:15] >> You know the answer.
[00:00:17] >> Mr. Alison, you're in my courtroom now.
[00:00:19] You're under oath. So, I suggest that
[00:00:20] you answer my questions. You the chief
[00:00:22] law enforcement officer of the state of
[00:00:23] Minnesota? Yes or no?
[00:00:26] Let's try another question. Are you
[00:00:27] familiar with the $9 billion in historic
[00:00:30] fraud out of your state, including the
[00:00:32] $250 million in the Feeding Our Future
[00:00:35] program alone? You familiar with that?
[00:00:37] Don't turn to the pages in your book to
[00:00:38] get your potted answers. Are you
[00:00:39] familiar with it? Yes or no?
[00:00:41] >> Yes, I am familiar with it.
[00:00:42] >> Very familiar, aren't you? Because the
[00:00:44] people who ran the Feeding Our Futures
[00:00:46] program came to you in your official
[00:00:48] office in the state capital December
[00:00:50] 11th, 2021, and asked for your help in
[00:00:53] getting investigators off their backs.
[00:00:56] They complained to you for upwards of an
[00:00:58] hour about state investigators going
[00:01:01] after them and they begged you to help
[00:01:03] them and you agreed to it amazingly. And
[00:01:06] we know you did because it's all caught
[00:01:09] on tape. Every single sentence is caught
[00:01:11] on tape. Here's what you said. Let's
[00:01:12] take a look. Obviously, you said it's
[00:01:14] not a question. You said to them,
[00:01:16] >> "Send me the names of all these folks
[00:01:19] >> who are investigating them." you said to
[00:01:21] them, "Send me their names and I'll take
[00:01:23] that list and I'll call the person over
[00:01:25] at education who is investigating them
[00:01:27] and say, what's going on? Why am I
[00:01:29] getting these complaints?" Then he went
[00:01:31] on to say, "I already have my team
[00:01:34] working on this. What day should we get
[00:01:36] together to discuss it again?" You made
[00:01:40] pledge after pledge to them. You said,
[00:01:42] "We've got to make sure this guy who's
[00:01:44] investigating them stops it." You said,
[00:01:46] "You have my attention. I'm concerned
[00:01:48] about this." You said, "Let's go fight
[00:01:51] these people." Meaning the people who
[00:01:53] were investigating the fraud.
[00:01:56] Why'd you do it? Why'd you help them?
[00:01:58] >> Are you going to let me answer?
[00:02:00] >> Please, we're all ears.
[00:02:01] >> So, first of all, you're cherry-picking
[00:02:03] quotes out of there. The man
[00:02:04] >> Why did you help him?
[00:02:05] >> I thought you were going to let me
[00:02:06] answer.
[00:02:06] >> Why did you help?
[00:02:06] >> Are you going to let me answer?
[00:02:08] >> Why did you help him?
[00:02:08] >> You let me answer and I'll answer. You
[00:02:10] >> tell the truth and I'll let you answer.
[00:02:11] >> I will tell the truth. Let's do that.
[00:02:12] >> That'd be a nice change. Why did you
[00:02:13] help?
[00:02:14] >> So, no. That now see Mr. Chairman, I
[00:02:16] didn't come here to be insulted. I came
[00:02:17] here voluntary. You came here for the
[00:02:19] truth. Let's have it. Why did you help
[00:02:20] them? The quads are here. They're in
[00:02:22] black and white. And every member of
[00:02:24] this audience can listen to the
[00:02:26] recording. It's 54 minutes long. It's
[00:02:29] all in public. You can Google it right
[00:02:31] now and listen to it.
[00:02:32] >> And listen to them.
[00:02:32] >> Why' you help them?
[00:02:34] >> First of all, I didn't help them. You
[00:02:36] did?
[00:02:36] >> No, I did not.
[00:02:37] >> I certainly didn't.
[00:02:38] >> You're saying you didn't do anything for
[00:02:40] him.
[00:02:40] >> You You didn't You didn't.
[00:02:42] >> Well, wait a minute.
[00:02:42] >> I already have my team working on this
[00:02:44] again. That's not you.
[00:02:44] >> I have I have my team. My team assisted
[00:02:49] with the information that led to the
[00:02:51] prosecution and conviction of these
[00:02:53] people.
[00:02:53] >> No, you didn't. You didn't lift the
[00:02:54] finger to prosecute them. No, you did
[00:02:56] not. You finger prosecute federal
[00:02:58] prosecution.
[00:02:58] >> You had Oh, BS. You had whistleblowers
[00:03:01] come to you as early as 2019. You're the
[00:03:02] one talking BS.
[00:03:03] >> Hey, listen. It's my time.
[00:03:05] >> Doesn't know what you're talking about.
[00:03:06] >> No, sir. You now have encountered the
[00:03:08] truth and you don't like it. Why' you
[00:03:09] take their money?
[00:03:10] >> Why did you take their money?
[00:03:12] >> I didn't.
[00:03:12] >> You took 10,000.
[00:03:15] >> That's a false statement. $10,000
[00:03:19] 9 days after the meeting.
[00:03:21] >> You took $10,000. Here's what happened.
[00:03:24] They went to your office. They solicited
[00:03:26] money from you. They solicited help from
[00:03:28] you. That's also wrong.
[00:03:29] >> They came to your office. It was your
[00:03:30] official office. You met with them for
[00:03:32] 54 minutes. They asked you for help. You
[00:03:35] pledged it to them and they talked
[00:03:36] repeatedly about money. In fact, it's
[00:03:38] all they talked about. Money, money,
[00:03:40] money, money. They said, "We will put
[00:03:43] our dollars in the right place. We will
[00:03:45] support candidates that will fight to
[00:03:47] protect our interests. You replied,
[00:03:48] "That's right." They said, "If you are
[00:03:50] secure in your donor base and securing
[00:03:52] your power base, you can act the way you
[00:03:54] want." You replied, "Money is freedom."
[00:03:57] They said, "The amount of money
[00:03:58] circulating," I'm reading the
[00:03:59] transcript. The amount of money
[00:04:01] circulating in our community today is
[00:04:03] powerful and we haven't realizing it in
[00:04:05] a meaningful way. And you said, "Give me
[00:04:07] the specifics." And nine days later, you
[00:04:10] took $10,000
[00:04:13] from people who were then indicted. It's
[00:04:15] in your reports. Why'd you do it,
[00:04:17] >> sir? This it
[00:04:18] >> was it worth it?
[00:04:19] >> You know what? This is a theatrical
[00:04:21] 10,000. This is the truth. This is what
[00:04:23] accountability looks like, of which
[00:04:24] you've had none. You helped fraudsters
[00:04:27] defraud your state and this government
[00:04:29] of $9 billion and you got a fat campaign
[00:04:32] contribution out of it. You ought to be
[00:04:34] indicted.
[00:04:35] >> True. Well, that's the truth. I I think
[00:04:37] we've made the point. Let's keep the
[00:04:39] temp just
[00:04:39] >> for the record.
[00:04:40] >> Oh, I'll ask how I was lying. And that's
[00:04:42] and that's the truth.
[00:04:43] >> Oh, no. This is all on the record. Did
[00:04:45] you bother to Did you bother to
[00:04:47] investigate where the money that you
[00:04:49] facilitated their fraud for? Where it
[00:04:51] went?
[00:04:52] >> Do you know where it went? What it was
[00:04:53] used for? The fraudulent money? I do
[00:04:55] because we just heard testimony about it
[00:04:57] yesterday. because we were the funds
[00:04:59] players in the
[00:05:00] >> hundreds of millions of dollars to
[00:05:01] terrorist groups to transnational
[00:05:03] criminal organizations to the drug trade
[00:05:05] to drug trafficking to child trafficking
[00:05:08] and you took $10,000
[00:05:11] >> and helped them do it.
[00:05:13] >> You know the other thing is
[00:05:14] whistleblowers came to you as early as
[00:05:16] 2019. Let's look
[00:05:18] >> as early as 2019. Whistlebl don't talk
[00:05:20] over me. As early as 2019 it's my
[00:05:24] hearing pal. As early as 2019,
[00:05:27] >> don't call me.
[00:05:28] >> Whistleblowers came to Well, I should
[00:05:30] call you a prisoner because you ought to
[00:05:30] be in jail.
[00:05:31] >> Well, see what you can call.
[00:05:32] >> In 2019,
[00:05:34] whistleblowers came to you in your
[00:05:36] office and referred to you fraud
[00:05:38] allegations from Feeding Our Futures,
[00:05:40] and you blew them off. Listen, your own
[00:05:41] state newspaper, the Minnesota Star
[00:05:43] Tribune, the Partners in Nutrition,
[00:05:45] brought its concerns to the Attorney
[00:05:47] General's office in 2018 and in 2019,
[00:05:50] and you did nothing. You did nothing for
[00:05:52] years. The only action you took is Once
[00:05:55] all these fraudsters came to your office
[00:05:57] and asked you to get involved and
[00:05:58] offered you money, then you got
[00:06:00] involved. Then you took the money and
[00:06:02] then you got involved.
[00:06:03] >> They did not come to my office. You're
[00:06:05] completely wrong about that.
[00:06:06] >> You met with anybody minutes and you
[00:06:09] took $10,000 and they also gave your
[00:06:11] family money. They gave your family
[00:06:13] thousands of dollars in campaign
[00:06:15] contributions in addition to what they
[00:06:16] gave false statement.
[00:06:17] >> Let's put the you know this is
[00:06:19] completely untrue.
[00:06:20] >> The New York Post.
[00:06:21] >> Yeah, we know the New York Post.
[00:06:23] Minnesota Keith Ellison AG accepted
[00:06:25] campaign donations from individuals
[00:06:26] linked to the $250 million co fraud
[00:06:29] scheme after they were in your office.
[00:06:30] The donations came on December 20th. You
[00:06:33] met with them on December the 11th and
[00:06:34] on January 20th the FBI knocked over
[00:06:37] their headquarters.
[00:06:38] >> No,
[00:06:39] >> that's the sequence of events here.
[00:06:41] >> No, it's not.
[00:06:42] >> You've been right at the center of this
[00:06:43] broadcast
[00:06:45] and you've enabled it and sir, you
[00:06:48] should resign.
[00:06:49] >> And sir, you should resign. I was
[00:06:51] thinking the same thing about you. to
[00:06:52] reside.
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