Candace Owens Just EXPOSED the TPUSA Takeover — Charlie Kirk Never Wanted Erika as CEO

[00:00:01] There it is. Whoop whoop. [00:00:05] Let's get into it. Oh man. Baron on the [00:00:10] podcast, guys. What's going on? Uh, what [00:00:13] is it? Happy Wednesday, everybody. Good [00:00:16] morning to you. Still waking up here [00:00:18] myself, so I had to check what day it [00:00:20] was. [laughter] [00:00:21] But Baron was on the podcast yesterday [00:00:23] on Candace Owens show. It was absolutely [00:00:25] amazing. I'm very happy for him. And you [00:00:29] know, Baron actually pushed me in a [00:00:30] direction that I'm gonna talk about near [00:00:33] the end. U because I want everybody's [00:00:35] opinion. I guess I could just say it [00:00:36] now. I I want to start going live in [00:00:38] this time slot. 10:00 a.m. EST, uh 9:00 [00:00:42] a.m. CST. I would be live for about two [00:00:45] hours. I would do it Monday to Friday. [00:00:46] The weekend wouldn't leave you hanging. [00:00:48] I would still make sure there was some [00:00:50] videos there for you guys. But after [00:00:52] talking to him, he he kind of gave me [00:00:55] that push. So, for those of you that are [00:00:57] happy to hear that, you know, you have [00:00:59] him to thank. And for those of you that [00:01:00] are not happy to hear that, you have him [00:01:02] to thank. Send all your uh negative [00:01:05] feedback towards him if that's the case. [00:01:08] Um, but what we're going to talk about [00:01:09] right now is Candace Owens and Baron [00:01:12] together calling out Erica Kirk and the [00:01:15] running of Turning Point and if that [00:01:16] should actually be happening and if that [00:01:19] was actually Charlie's final wish. [00:01:23] Now, I do have some clips. I am gonna [00:01:25] play the clip of them talking about it. [00:01:27] I'm gonna introd here and there to [00:01:29] support what they're saying because they [00:01:32] hit the nail on the head. I did talk [00:01:33] about this myself. I am just I shouldn't [00:01:36] say I'm just like Charlie, but I h I [00:01:39] have we have our families mirror each [00:01:41] other perfectly. Kids same ages. Like [00:01:44] you we're we're like we're right along [00:01:46] with each other. So I I'll I'll chime in [00:01:49] about that in a second, but let's jump [00:01:52] in. As everybody knows, Baron sitting [00:01:54] down with Candace. Absolutely [00:01:56] incredible. Let's jump over to the clip. [00:01:58] Listen to this. [00:01:58] >> Something else that just struck me as [00:01:59] odd, and I I don't need to mean to make [00:02:01] people go crazy about this, but [00:02:04] when they had Amfest and uh Erica came [00:02:08] out, they played audio of Charlie saying [00:02:12] that he wanted Erica to take over for [00:02:15] him. And I was curious about that [00:02:18] because if you have the audio, [00:02:20] shouldn't you have the video? Am I am I [00:02:22] crazy for thinking you should you have [00:02:23] the video? [00:02:24] >> Well, in an AI world, can we trust that [00:02:26] that even if you had the video? Because [00:02:28] it is so contradictory to everything he [00:02:30] said. Every time they're in a room [00:02:32] together, every podcast when it comes up [00:02:34] to a woman working outside the home with [00:02:37] young kids, his basic opinion is at all [00:02:39] costs, please don't do it if you don't [00:02:40] have to. [00:02:41] >> And but here's what's interesting is [00:02:43] that their story has been that if [00:02:44] anything ever happened to him, [00:02:46] >> he wanted Erica to take over. And let me [00:02:47] tell you why that suddenly strikes me as [00:02:49] odd. Because in that scenario, your [00:02:51] first instinct is who's going to look [00:02:53] after the kids, right? [00:02:54] >> So you're saying that what he wanted was [00:02:57] for if anything happens to me, I want my [00:02:59] kids to essentially become orphans [00:03:01] because I know I mean Charlie knew what [00:03:03] it took to run an organization of that [00:03:04] size. He was constantly on the road. We [00:03:05] saw that just when he did when I put [00:03:07] together his calendar of everywhere he [00:03:08] was that he was constantly it's non-stop [00:03:11] hours, non-stop flying all over the [00:03:12] nation. And so he's like, "If anything [00:03:13] happens to me, I want my my children to [00:03:15] have not just one parent lost, but two [00:03:18] parents lost and to essentially be [00:03:19] raised by nannies." I'll tell you what [00:03:21] it really struck me as odd, and I've [00:03:22] never revealed this before. I didn't [00:03:23] think one way or the other about this [00:03:25] statement about Erica taking over. I [00:03:26] thought, and I still do believe that at [00:03:28] some point in the past, he would have [00:03:29] said, "Oh, she's super smart." And he [00:03:31] used to say, "Oh, she's really smart." [00:03:32] Whatever. Great compliments about her. [00:03:34] But it struck me as odd because when I [00:03:35] sat down with Erica, I had said nothing [00:03:37] on my show about that statement. and [00:03:38] they had prepared a response to a [00:03:42] question that I wasn't asking, meaning [00:03:44] that they had a physical print out of a [00:03:47] transcript and they said, "Well, this is [00:03:48] the transcript of when Charlie said, [00:03:50] here's what he said about wanting um [00:03:52] Erica to take over." And I sort of waved [00:03:54] away. I was like, "This isn't something [00:03:55] that I brought up on my show." Yeah. [00:03:56] >> I don't even this I don't need proof of [00:03:58] something that I a claim that I haven't [00:03:59] made. And then suddenly I went, wait a [00:04:00] second, that's kind of weird that you're [00:04:01] bringing proof for a claim I didn't [00:04:03] make, which means it's on your mind, not [00:04:04] my mind. [00:04:05] And so then I asked a little bit more [00:04:07] about it and I said,"Well, when did he [00:04:09] say this?" And they said, "In August." [00:04:13] That's kind of interesting. [00:04:14] >> Wow. [00:04:15] >> And I said, "Was this at was this at [00:04:16] Bill Aman's house?" And they said, "No, [00:04:18] it was at a donor retreat in Aspen." So [00:04:21] I hunt down this this donor retreat in [00:04:23] Aspen and figured when it happened, and [00:04:25] I have it on my timeline somewhere. I'll [00:04:27] have to I'll give it up, but this donor [00:04:28] retreat in Aspen happens. and I uh [00:04:30] figure out who's at this donor retreat [00:04:32] in Aspen and I reach out and then they [00:04:34] alleged that this was a question that [00:04:35] somebody had asked and said what happens [00:04:37] if you die which is kind of a weird [00:04:39] question a lot of donor events nobody's [00:04:40] like hey what happens when you die it's [00:04:42] pretty you know it's a pretty morbid [00:04:43] thought and then he died a month later [00:04:45] and I asked this person to just hey do [00:04:47] you remember this um this happening [00:04:49] person said no [00:04:52] we talked to another person that was at [00:04:54] this Aspen event and I said hey uh you [00:04:57] know this is allegedly the where this [00:04:59] question was asked. And I'm I'm now able [00:05:01] to figure out also who the donor was [00:05:02] that asked. By the way, I'm I'll have [00:05:04] that information for you guys soon, but [00:05:06] I I'd like to reach out to that donor. [00:05:08] Do you remember Charlie saying that if [00:05:10] anything happens to him, I want Erica to [00:05:11] take over? I got another no. [00:05:13] >> Very small group, exclusive group of [00:05:14] donors in Aspen in August. And thus far, [00:05:17] two do not remember Charlie saying that. [00:05:21] >> Very weird. Okay, so that's very very [00:05:23] odd because again in regular turning [00:05:27] point fashion [00:05:29] and shout out to Wolves and finance when [00:05:31] I say allegedly maybe perhaps their [00:05:36] stories don't make any sense, right? [00:05:39] They always have like three stories [00:05:41] somehow. It it seems all the time like [00:05:43] Andrew is like, "Well, I'm the [00:05:44] spokesperson, so I'm going to say this [00:05:47] and that's going to be the story." But [00:05:48] it seems like Andrew doesn't tell [00:05:50] everybody. Does it doesn't say, "Hey, [00:05:52] everybody, I released this statement. [00:05:54] This is what we're going with, right?" [00:05:57] And everybody's like, "Well, they take [00:05:58] notes and everything." You know what I [00:05:59] mean? They take notes. They get their [00:06:01] mints out. You know, they're writing it [00:06:03] down. Um, [laughter] [00:06:07] just push their detonators aside. Um, [00:06:11] what? What? That's No, I'm joking. Um, [00:06:16] so Andrew says one thing and then it [00:06:18] seems like someone else is just doing an [00:06:20] interview like Erica and she says [00:06:22] another thing and then someone else is [00:06:23] like on a podcast and they're like, [00:06:24] "Nah, I'll just say a thing." And that's [00:06:26] what it seems to be. So I'll show you [00:06:28] this first one here. Let me just jump to [00:06:30] this one. So here you go. Like check [00:06:33] check this out. Check this out. [00:06:34] >> A year ago, we have decades worth of my [00:06:38] husband's voice. We have unused material [00:06:41] from speeches that he's had that no one [00:06:43] has heard yet. We have Sunday specials [00:06:47] lined up to the brim because my husband [00:06:49] was so intentional about making sure [00:06:52] that there was enough content always. [00:06:54] >> He and he in he he made sure we recorded [00:06:56] everything. [00:06:57] >> He would not do a speech unless we could [00:06:59] get the video and the [00:07:00] >> 100%. [00:07:01] >> Just to speak to what Candace was [00:07:03] talking about at the very beginning. [00:07:04] Video audio. He Andrew himself is saying [00:07:07] he made sure to record everything. Both [00:07:10] of them are agreeing. And that's the [00:07:11] magnificent Mikey McCoy. Uh if you'd [00:07:14] like, you could bow your head in [00:07:15] silence. That is the magnificent Mikey [00:07:18] McCoy in all of his splendor. Why isn't [00:07:20] he sitting in the center seat? How dare [00:07:22] they disrespect Mikey like that? Anyway, [00:07:26] it turns out that he did want to record [00:07:29] everything. So Candace is right in [00:07:31] thinking like where why why is there no [00:07:34] audio or sorry why is there audio and no [00:07:36] video? What kind of thing is that? I [00:07:39] mean it's not it's not out of the realm [00:07:43] of listen we live in a world where you [00:07:46] can easily just take someone's voice and [00:07:49] make them say whatever. You can you just [00:07:52] can and you can do it really really [00:07:53] well. So I mean that's not even up for [00:07:56] argument. And did they do that? I I [00:08:00] think they would you know why also I [00:08:02] forget I couldn't find the clip but [00:08:04] Andrew Kovette even said that they were [00:08:06] approached to make an AI Charlie. Okay. [00:08:09] So they were actually considering at one [00:08:11] point making an AI hologram [00:08:14] uh uh avatar of Charlie and have him say [00:08:19] things and wave and all of that stuff [00:08:21] that was actually on the table for them [00:08:23] at some point. Now, I do reme I remember [00:08:26] Andrew saying this in a podcast. Can't [00:08:29] remember which one, so I'm kind of doing [00:08:32] what they are. I don't got any audio. I [00:08:35] don't got any video. Um, just putting it [00:08:37] out there. But then we also go to this [00:08:41] in regards to Charlie and whether or not [00:08:44] he actually wanted Erica. And honestly, [00:08:48] I think what Baron says, it matches up [00:08:50] perfectly. I'm a Christian myself. I'll [00:08:52] be completely honest. I don't want my [00:08:54] wife doing anything like that. I even [00:08:56] said in the last episode I did about [00:08:58] Erica, the normal thing for someone in [00:09:01] her position is to be like, well, um, [00:09:04] this is September 18th and something [00:09:07] terrible happened on the 10th. I don't [00:09:09] know if everybody remembers. So, I'm not [00:09:11] going to be the CEO. I have to go cry. I [00:09:15] have a lot of crying to do. Bye, [00:09:17] everybody. [00:09:19] Someone else. Who's the next who's right [00:09:22] beside him? you're filling in, you know, [00:09:24] it's called an interm CEO. I believe [00:09:27] that's what it's called. It's somebody [00:09:28] who's there for now and then you find [00:09:31] somebody who can actually do it and [00:09:34] that's it. And it should be someone in [00:09:35] the organization. That would make the [00:09:37] most sense. Someone that people already [00:09:39] know or somebody that has massive [00:09:41] experience with a nonprofit. That that's [00:09:43] what you would do. You wouldn't put the [00:09:45] woman who just went through one of the [00:09:47] most tragic uh horrifying things that a [00:09:50] spouse can go through, right? That is [00:09:52] the one thing that all of us married [00:09:54] folk do not want to get a phone call [00:09:56] about cuz it destroys our entire worlds, [00:09:59] right? So that's the normal thing to do. [00:10:03] But on the 18th, she was like, "Sure." [00:10:06] No, don't even worry. I don't know. The [00:10:08] kids are they're in another room. [00:10:10] Whatever. You want me on a plane? Yeah, [00:10:13] sure. Where we going? White House. All [00:10:16] right. I'll meet you there. [00:10:18] That's weird. Just saying. It's kind of [00:10:20] weird. Here, let's play this. [00:10:22] >> Chris, I I hope your audience knows this [00:10:24] was exactly what Charlie wanted. Uh he [00:10:26] he had made plans because he was, you [00:10:29] know, getting death threats all the [00:10:30] time. He knew that there were people [00:10:32] that wanted to hurt him. And obviously, [00:10:34] we took precautions in that way, but he [00:10:37] was prepared. And he told me personally, [00:10:39] he told members of the board and other [00:10:41] executives at the organization that [00:10:43] should something happen that Erica was [00:10:45] going to be the person that took over. [00:10:48] And he knew, I mean, he started dating [00:10:50] Erica when he his life was already a [00:10:52] little crazy. Well, it it was a fraction [00:10:54] of what it became obviously as the years [00:10:57] went on. But [00:10:58] >> so that's Andrew saying that that's how [00:11:01] she was chosen. Let's go back to Candace [00:11:03] and Baron talking about this whole [00:11:05] thing, though. Let's keep going. [00:11:07] >> If you're 31 years old and someone asked [00:11:09] you what's going to happen when you die, [00:11:13] those people intend to harm you. I I I I [00:11:15] cannot look at that innocently. [00:11:18] To the contrary, what one person [00:11:20] remembers, which sounds much more [00:11:22] sensible, was that during Charlie's [00:11:24] conversation, he's like saying how [00:11:26] Turning Point's going to grow. And [00:11:27] they're asking, "How are you going to do [00:11:29] all of this? Like you're one person." [00:11:31] And cuz he was kind of building a [00:11:32] vision, which is what you do at these [00:11:33] like donor events. It's like, "Here's [00:11:34] where we are. Here's what we want to do. [00:11:35] Here's where we're building out." That [00:11:36] was Charlie. And apparently Charlie gave [00:11:39] some total common sense answer of like, [00:11:41] "Well, that's why I hire people under us [00:11:43] to run this, this, this, and that." [00:11:44] Nobody remembers. Thus far, I've only [00:11:46] asked two people. Him saying, "If I die, [00:11:49] I want Erica to take over for me." [00:11:52] >> I I've it would have been so out of [00:11:54] character [00:11:54] >> because again, every public statement [00:11:57] he's ever made, that has not been his [00:11:58] position. Every single public statement, [00:12:01] you go look at his personal podcast, you [00:12:02] go look at interviews he sat in on other [00:12:04] people's podcasts or radio shows, they [00:12:06] talk all the time about, you know, a [00:12:09] woman working outside the home, he's [00:12:10] like, "Hey, you know, when they have [00:12:11] young kids, it's just probably not the [00:12:12] best idea. Not the right time to do it. [00:12:14] raise your kids. It it it would be so [00:12:17] out of character for him to say, "Yeah, [00:12:18] I actually want her to take over my 300 [00:12:20] day a year travel schedule." [00:12:23] >> And he's also at that time, don't [00:12:24] forget, being massively pressured by [00:12:27] donors, right? He's being pressured and [00:12:30] yelled at by donors. He's got um you [00:12:33] know, the Bill Aman thing happens. [00:12:35] Sean's pressuring him. He's getting [00:12:36] people that are saying they're taking [00:12:38] millions away from him. and his [00:12:40] perspective was I want my wife to endure [00:12:42] this while my children are left absent [00:12:43] with no parents. Yeah. I I'm not saying [00:12:46] it's not possible. I'm saying thus far [00:12:48] trying to confirm the story. I can't. [00:12:50] And it's bothering me because the [00:12:52] obvious thing is they should release the [00:12:53] video because if you're not just you [00:12:55] hooked him up for audio, you just like [00:12:56] oh we're just hooking you up for for [00:12:57] audio for the speech. It's like if you [00:12:59] got audio, you got visual. And I'm told [00:13:01] that there was audio and visual at that [00:13:03] event in the H [00:13:05] >> in the Hamptons. And that would make [00:13:07] sense because Charlie wanted to record [00:13:09] everything. Erica, the beautiful, [00:13:13] majestic Mikey McCoy, and Andrew all [00:13:16] verified that he recorded everything. [00:13:18] That's what he wanted. He wanted no loss [00:13:20] of content whatsoever. And even at a [00:13:23] donor event, it would make sense to do [00:13:25] that. It would it would make perfect [00:13:27] sense because at the same time, you [00:13:29] know, it's going to be Charlie on stage. [00:13:31] Maybe it's a a fireside type of event [00:13:34] where you're kind of sitting amongst the [00:13:36] audience, same level, eye level, but [00:13:38] camera would still be on Charlie just [00:13:40] like always with every event that he [00:13:42] does, having him answer questions so [00:13:44] people could have that content so he [00:13:46] could put it up on YouTube and Tik Tok [00:13:48] and Instagram, all the things that [00:13:50] Charlie loved to do so people would [00:13:52] understand, young people would [00:13:54] understand exactly where he was at with [00:13:56] everything. That's how he moved the [00:13:58] needle so much when it came to young [00:14:00] voters by doing that type of thing. Um, [00:14:03] also to what Baron said, there is again [00:14:06] another podcast where it's Erica and [00:14:09] Charlie and they're actually not having [00:14:11] a disagreement, but you can see there's [00:14:13] a little bit of tension. Um, they're [00:14:16] talking about getting they're they're [00:14:18] talking about getting married young and [00:14:20] versus getting married a little older. [00:14:22] And Erica did get married a little [00:14:24] older. she was in her 30s when when they [00:14:26] got married. So Charlie's like, you [00:14:28] know, do it young. That just is what [00:14:30] makes sense. And Erica kind of chimes in [00:14:32] like, "Yeah, but you know, you can do it [00:14:34] later in life and if that's what it [00:14:36] takes, like it's completely fine." And [00:14:37] Charlie was kind of like, you know, uh, [00:14:39] I don't know about that. You know, it it [00:14:41] was a very weird little thing that they [00:14:43] had there. So again, it just speaks to [00:14:47] his character. You know, why would he [00:14:50] want that type of thing for his kids and [00:14:52] for his wife? It just doesn't make any [00:14:55] sense. Let's keep going. [00:14:56] >> And well, I'll say this. I don't believe [00:14:58] audio and visual anymore. I I I need [00:15:00] someone in the room to confirm it [00:15:01] happened. I I just the AI revolution I I [00:15:04] I see videos of me people put up and [00:15:06] say, "Oh, you know, I'm like, I didn't [00:15:07] say that. That's not me." You know, and [00:15:08] it's it's usually humorous. It's funny. [00:15:10] Um but somebody would look at that and [00:15:12] say, "Oh, Baron Coleman said this." I'm [00:15:14] like, "No, I I actually never said [00:15:15] that." I'm going to keep going through [00:15:18] people at this event and seeing if [00:15:20] someone will confirm that on record, but [00:15:21] I do I do think it would be incumbent [00:15:23] upon them to release it. It could have [00:15:24] happened. [00:15:25] >> Was it raised in New York at the [00:15:26] Hampton's? [00:15:27] >> It was I was told by Erica it was Aspen. [00:15:31] >> Okay. Yeah. [00:15:31] >> See, I I was under the impression the [00:15:33] what happens when you die question was [00:15:34] out of the Hamptons. [00:15:35] >> Yeah. because people knew it was August [00:15:36] and so there the nobody actually knew [00:15:39] that there was this donor event that [00:15:40] happened in Aspen in the and I can [00:15:43] actually tell you the dates of it if you [00:15:44] >> that actually makes a lot of sense [00:15:46] because you hear hey a bunch of donors [00:15:48] in [00:15:48] >> this guy what [00:15:50] >> August 15th to 17th so less than less [00:15:53] than a month before he died [00:15:54] >> I mean [00:15:55] >> less than a month before he passes away [00:15:57] so they're asking him [00:15:59] >> keep in mind the timeline they're asking [00:16:01] him a month after he gets bered did uh [00:16:06] directly after Tucker Carlson gives his [00:16:09] speech by a donor that this is Tucker [00:16:11] Carlson's words that comes up to him and [00:16:13] says, "You can't do this. How dare you [00:16:15] do this?" They're in Charlie's face [00:16:17] doing this. Right? I I imagine they're [00:16:19] like this. Um you know, a Ben Shapiro [00:16:21] type, you know what I mean? Um [00:16:23] [laughter] [00:16:25] just four and a half feet lower like, [00:16:27] "Hey, you can't do this. Get back to [00:16:30] work, Charlie Kirk. Get back to work." [00:16:32] Um, [00:16:34] [laughter] [00:16:35] I'm joking. But, um, and then also what [00:16:39] happens after that in July is Dave Smith [00:16:42] and Josh Hammer. They sit down. Then [00:16:45] Charlie in August, and it's actually, [00:16:48] funny enough, [00:16:50] early August, Charlie sits down with [00:16:52] Megan Kelly. He says, "I'm getting [00:16:54] messages. I'm getting messages where [00:16:58] people are who questioning my moral [00:16:59] character, calling me anti- [00:17:01] Philadelphia. I'm getting these messages [00:17:03] to my phone. You know, they're saying [00:17:05] that I'm not on their side. He's I don't [00:17:07] I don't know what they're talking about. [00:17:09] I'm an American. You know, that's what's [00:17:12] happening around August 8th with Megan [00:17:14] Kelly, maybe recorded August 7th. Then [00:17:17] we're saying that there was this event [00:17:18] that nobody knew about August 15th, and [00:17:21] they're asking him what's going to [00:17:23] happen if he dies. [00:17:26] So he's getting bered messages all this [00:17:29] stuff pressure says hey because within [00:17:32] this time at some point he releases that [00:17:35] group message in that sorry he releases [00:17:37] that text message in that group chat and [00:17:40] says I'm forced to leave the pro [00:17:42] Philadelphia cause. I will not be [00:17:45] bullied. Let these donors go. Who cares? [00:17:48] And I'm thinking about having Candace [00:17:50] back. Somewhere within that timeline I [00:17:52] just told you, Charlie says that on text [00:17:55] and then on August 15th, they ask him, [00:17:58] "What are you going to do?" I think she [00:17:59] said 15th, 15th, 17th type of thing. [00:18:02] They they ask him, "What are you going [00:18:04] to do? What what happens to Turning [00:18:07] Point if you die?" So, they're pretty [00:18:09] much just like, "Do you got a plan? [00:18:13] Do you have a plan in place? Because [00:18:15] I've been hearing things about you. Who [00:18:18] takes over if you die? [00:18:20] Just a question. I just want to know. [00:18:23] Who is it? Who is it? [00:18:26] Is it Erica? I think it'd be great. I [00:18:28] mean, you remember her mom? You know, [00:18:30] they're connected. You know, I mean, [00:18:31] they're mobsters. You know, Mortal [00:18:34] Kombat Ultra, you know. I I think she'd [00:18:36] be a good We could just wipe her memory. [00:18:37] I think is it Erica? They're all [00:18:40] excited, you know. [laughter] [00:18:43] Anyway, let's keep going. [00:18:44] >> In three weeks. [00:18:45] >> Yeah. [00:18:47] If I'm the FBI, I want to know who asked [00:18:49] him what would happen when he dies [00:18:51] because again, you don't ask healthy 31y [00:18:53] olds what's going to happen when they [00:18:54] die. That is a weird question to ask a [00:18:56] 31-y old. [00:18:57] >> 31y olds don't drop dead. [00:18:59] >> They just don't. [00:19:01] >> And where he's doing, you know, military [00:19:02] training with Mikey, if anything [00:19:03] happens, just go walk [laughter] run. [00:19:05] They were doing rehearsals. [00:19:08] >> They were running drills [00:19:09] >> and and you know what was like 1 2 3 go. [00:19:11] And Mikey was like just practicing. Oh, [00:19:13] totally. This is what this is exactly. [00:19:15] It just gets longer and longer. There [00:19:16] should just be a book called everything [00:19:18] that Charlie definitely for sure wanted [00:19:20] and asked for um in the event of of this [00:19:23] this tragic never happened before [00:19:25] assassination. And it is I do not like [00:19:27] the fact that we are we are being told [00:19:29] that we have to believe you know first [00:19:30] they were going to say I was a liar. [00:19:32] Then they had to confirm that it was [00:19:33] true that Charlie messaged not only [00:19:34] Andrew Kova but Dan Flood the night [00:19:35] before and said that he was worried he [00:19:39] was going to be assassinated. But [00:19:41] shouldn't he have also like would he [00:19:42] have not confided that to his wife? Like [00:19:44] she didn't know she had his phone. Okay, [00:19:46] let's say that's true. Maybe you don't [00:19:48] want your wife to carry that burden that [00:19:49] you have those fears and you would [00:19:50] rather prefer to say that to security [00:19:51] and PR. But even if that is true, you're [00:19:54] telling me that after his assassination, [00:19:55] Andrew Kova didn't tell Erica, [00:19:56] >> right? Well, and there's so many weird [00:19:59] things about that. [00:20:00] >> He told Candace. He told Candace should [00:20:03] have been you or supposed to be you, you [00:20:06] know, lay low, you and Tucker, right? [00:20:09] Like he says all that, but he doesn't [00:20:11] say that to Erica. And Erica has to have [00:20:14] that verified after she releases that [00:20:16] statement. I don't know if you guys [00:20:18] remember. She was on Glenn Beck and she [00:20:21] said he didn't say that. That never [00:20:22] happened. And I know cuz I have his [00:20:25] phone. [00:20:26] And then all of a sudden she meets with [00:20:28] Candace and she verifies like, "Oh, [00:20:30] actually, yeah. It turns out he said [00:20:33] that to Dan Flood." Yeah. It turns out [00:20:35] Dan Fled didn't do anything. Yeah. Yeah. [00:20:38] No. No. Dan Flood Dan Fled got that [00:20:41] message and then the next day [00:20:44] [laughter] [00:20:45] they didn't care if anybody was on the [00:20:47] roof. I you know there was a text [00:20:50] message that said I got you. So they all [00:20:51] figured they all figured that you know [00:20:54] it's fine. Rooftops everywhere is [00:20:57] completely fine. You know everybody was [00:21:00] just like you know ah man I always think [00:21:02] of that situation how terrifying that [00:21:04] is. Yeah. Think about if you're in that [00:21:06] situation and you message one of your [00:21:08] friends or somebody who's supposed to be [00:21:10] your security and they don't go, "What [00:21:12] do you mean, man? What?" No, no, no. [00:21:16] Let's get this settled. Hold on. When is [00:21:18] that event tomorrow? Hey, cancel that [00:21:20] event. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, [00:21:22] no, no. I listen. I don't care. We're [00:21:24] canceling it. No. We're not putting you [00:21:26] in jeopardy. Cancel the event now. Tell [00:21:28] them something came up. What are you [00:21:30] talking about, man? Imagine instead the [00:21:33] reaction is [00:21:36] Okay, [00:21:38] you'll be fine. It's fine, [00:21:42] man. [snorts] And you tell like three [00:21:44] people and they're all just like, "Don't [00:21:47] worry about it, man. Come on. Don't [00:21:48] worry. Your security's good. Don't [00:21:50] worry." [gasps] Oh, what a crazy crazy [00:21:54] reaction to have around people who are [00:21:57] your friends and employees. Oh, it's the [00:21:59] worst. Absolutely the worst. Dan Flood [00:22:02] didn't tell her, "Hey, right, this has [00:22:03] happened. He just texted me that she [00:22:05] heard that for the first time when I [00:22:06] said it, [00:22:07] >> right?" Uh, well, she also had custody [00:22:09] of the necklace that he never took off. [00:22:11] Um, and that she was crazy to try to [00:22:13] find immediately in the after there. [00:22:15] There's so many weird things about Erica [00:22:17] in the 24 to 48 hours leading up to it [00:22:19] and the 24 to 48 hours immediately after [00:22:21] it that, you know, somebody asked me [00:22:22] yesterday, if you could if you could [00:22:24] answer one question about the [00:22:25] assassination, what would it be? And my [00:22:27] my my answer, what what did Erica know? [00:22:30] like did she know he was gonna die the [00:22:32] next day? Because I think the answer to [00:22:33] that question is yes. In my opinion, [00:22:37] >> Baron dropping the heat made sure to say [00:22:39] in his opinion, good save. Good save, [00:22:42] sir. They're not going to wolves and [00:22:43] finance us. Uh [laughter] [00:22:46] but that is something to say, you know, [00:22:48] if if you feel that way, like she did [00:22:50] know something. I mean, I can 100% see [00:22:54] why people feel like she knew something [00:22:56] just from I I don't know. You you can [00:22:58] just look at I always say this with [00:23:01] creators when I tell people you know [00:23:03] audience you guys when I say watch [00:23:06] creators you have to see what happens a [00:23:09] they if they say a bunch of stuff you [00:23:10] have to see what the result is [00:23:12] afterwards right and when you look at [00:23:14] Erica it's like what is the result [00:23:16] afterwards you see I've broken just [00:23:18] yesterday I made this video about her [00:23:20] life and all the weirdness and then you [00:23:21] look at what happens afterwards well now [00:23:23] she's running the company now she's [00:23:25] running this ninef figureure hub hub [00:23:28] that is just generating money and [00:23:31] swaying public opinion towards some of [00:23:33] the most the most important thing when [00:23:36] it comes to politicians, which is [00:23:37] elections, right? Um [00:23:41] I don't know. It's weird. It's weird for [00:23:44] her to say, "Hey, you know, nothing. No [00:23:47] messages like that." Oh, actually turns [00:23:49] out there was. [00:23:51] It's weird. And that's Listen to me. [00:23:53] Listen to me right now. That's after [00:23:55] Candace says, "I know that he said [00:24:00] this." That's not Candace saying, "Did [00:24:02] he say that?" That's Candace saying, "I [00:24:04] know for a fact." And then she's like, [00:24:07] "Oh, yeah. I checked. It turns out I [00:24:10] just wasn't looking. I was looking in I [00:24:12] was looking somewhere else and turns out [00:24:14] they're over there. Signal." Yeah. I [00:24:16] didn't realize. [00:24:18] You didn't look everywhere. [00:24:21] I'm telling you, man, my wife better [00:24:23] turn into Nancy Drew if something [00:24:24] happens to me. What? She better turn [00:24:27] into Columbbo on everybody that I know. [00:24:30] I don't care. Insult my mom. I don't [00:24:32] care. Do it. My mom says she's not a She [00:24:37] could be just like Columbomo. She'll be [00:24:38] like, "Thanks so much." Okay. It's [00:24:42] really nice. I guess there's nothing [00:24:43] else to talk about here. [00:24:46] One more thing. Turn into Columbbo. The [00:24:49] young people have no idea who Columbo [00:24:51] is. Older people, you know exactly who [00:24:52] I'm talking about. Uh, he's like an old [00:24:56] grizzled Nancy Drew. Uh, let's just keep [00:24:58] going here real quick. I think yes. [00:25:01] >> Number one question now that I have, I [00:25:04] wouldn't say number one, but it's up [00:25:05] there. Is that story about the Jezebel [00:25:08] person wrote the article had never [00:25:10] written an article and we're told like [00:25:12] that Charlie was so worried and the [00:25:14] priest came over. This is what was told [00:25:16] me Kelly. I believe Megan Kelly she's [00:25:17] pretty straight shooter. Uh, and that [00:25:19] the priest came over to pray 48 hours [00:25:21] before to pray about this Jezebel [00:25:23] article. That's new to me because the [00:25:26] Charlie that I know, I mean, the amount [00:25:27] of articles and witches and things that [00:25:29] people were writing at all times had a [00:25:31] pretty good sense of humor about the [00:25:32] left writing articles and the priest [00:25:35] coming over to pray about an article is [00:25:37] now interesting to me. [00:25:39] >> That is interesting. You know what that [00:25:41] is, right? Candace doesn't talk about [00:25:43] this a lot. That's the occult. That's [00:25:45] what that is. I'm gonna make another [00:25:46] episode about that completely because I [00:25:48] I want to see the article and what was [00:25:50] written and everything. But that's the [00:25:51] occult. That's what that is. And the [00:25:53] fact that it did seem very ritualistic [00:25:56] what happened to Charlie. Um, and then [00:25:58] you're telling me that happened 24 hours [00:26:00] before. I'm going to make an episode [00:26:02] about that. Um, but let's just get into [00:26:04] the clips that I have really quick. So, [00:26:07] this is them. They already said this [00:26:08] one. Magnificent Mikey McCoy. Of course, [00:26:10] that clip's already there. Uh, also [00:26:13] here, let's just hear Erica actually [00:26:15] talk about how it came to be, her being [00:26:18] the CEO. [00:26:19] >> In August, before all this happened, he [00:26:22] had a event where he had some donors at [00:26:26] and one of the first questions they [00:26:29] asked was, [00:26:31] "God forbid if something happens to you, [00:26:34] like what [00:26:37] what what would happen next, a turning [00:26:39] point?" And Charlie made a really [00:26:41] interesting point. He said companies you [00:26:44] know example Apple Macintosh [00:26:50] he said they're founderled. [00:26:53] >> She said Apple Macintosh like it's two [00:26:55] separate companies. [00:26:56] >> He said but what I have built is will [00:27:00] one day if I'm not around be visionled. [00:27:04] And he had made mention at the end like [00:27:06] you know Erica will do a great job [00:27:08] running it. [00:27:10] Oh man, that is weird. You know the [00:27:13] weird part for me? It was one of the [00:27:14] first the first questions that they [00:27:16] asked. Charlie's going through all this [00:27:18] stuff, all this pressure, people leaving [00:27:20] this that he says he's leaving the pro [00:27:23] Philadelphia cause and the first [00:27:24] question they all sit down. It's all [00:27:26] these rich people. So Charlie, what [00:27:30] happens when you die? [00:27:33] I'd be like, "Excuse me, sir." No, no, [00:27:36] no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's a big [00:27:38] boy. No, he's a big boy. He's going to [00:27:40] tell me what he means by that. No, no, [00:27:43] no. Hey, everybody sit down. Okay. What [00:27:46] are you trying to say? What you What are [00:27:48] you trying to say when you say that? [00:27:49] What do you mean by that? [00:27:52] Cuz I have you in my phone saying some [00:27:54] stuff to me. What did you just say to [00:27:55] me? Where's Dan? Where's Brian? Nah, [00:27:59] Brian, don't worry about the mints. Get [00:28:01] over here. I need you to have my back [00:28:03] real quick. Brian runs up with all these [00:28:06] mints. Sorry, boss. [00:28:10] You want one, boss? [00:28:14] [laughter] [00:28:15] Oh, the mint jokes. Oh my god. And then [00:28:18] you know, and this is just me now. You [00:28:21] know, it's kind of weird when you see [00:28:23] like this guy pushing it. Like listen to [00:28:24] how he pushes this when this happens. [00:28:26] >> Mmantle and completing his vision of [00:28:27] bringing us all closer to our Lord and [00:28:29] fostering a prosperous country for [00:28:30] generations to come. As Charlie always [00:28:32] said, we have a country to save. We will [00:28:34] not surrender or kneel before evil. We [00:28:35] will carry on. The attempt to destroy [00:28:37] Charlie's work will become our chance to [00:28:38] make it more powerful and enduring than [00:28:40] ever before. May God bless Erica, the [00:28:41] Kirk family, and the entire team at [00:28:43] Turning Point USA. That was written by [00:28:46] TPUSA board members Doug Groot, Mike [00:28:48] Miller, Tom Sedeka, and Dave Engelhart. [00:28:50] >> Those names need to be looked into. Um [00:28:53] perhaps maybe allegedly. [00:28:57] >> Keep going. [00:28:59] >> It's exactly the right move. It's [00:29:00] exactly the right move. Erica, of [00:29:02] course, is a public figure in her own [00:29:04] right. She has run businesses. She has [00:29:07] an excellent educational background. She [00:29:09] of course was involved with Charlie. [00:29:11] Charlie of course was the driving force [00:29:12] behind Turning Point USA. But it's not [00:29:14] as though his wife was not involved or [00:29:16] unaligned or something. She was very [00:29:18] politically active. In fact, here is a [00:29:20] clip of Charlie with Erica on his show [00:29:22] just a few months ago. Let me just be [00:29:24] clear. That was our first dose of fed [00:29:27] slop [00:29:29] before it was even called Fed Slop. That [00:29:31] was our first spoonful of fed slop to [00:29:35] talk about. She's a public figure in her [00:29:36] own right. No, not really. Um the [00:29:40] schooling, she has a lot of schooling [00:29:42] that funny enough looking into this. She [00:29:44] has her schooling. Um it actually [00:29:48] mirrors what the agency looks for. Funny [00:29:52] enough, don't know why she took that [00:29:54] stuff, but she's the the way that he's [00:29:57] pushing it. When I see him push it like [00:30:00] that, I go, "Oh, okay." Because, you [00:30:03] know, it's just me. It's just me. I [00:30:06] don't trust him, right? I just don't. [00:30:09] And this is before his thing with [00:30:11] Candace. He's just he's hard to trust. [00:30:15] So, Erica will be taking over as the [00:30:17] head of the organization, which of [00:30:18] course is precisely exactly the right [00:30:21] move. Erica is not only a delightful [00:30:23] human being, she also happens to be made [00:30:25] in Charlie's mold. She is a fighter and [00:30:27] and that is great for TPUSA. [00:30:30] >> Oh man, see that that last part. See, [00:30:32] you guys got to watch words. That didn't [00:30:33] even make sense. She is in Charlie's [00:30:36] mold. It is exactly precisely [00:30:40] completely longitude and latitude right [00:30:43] on the money with what needs to be [00:30:45] happening right now. What? You said too [00:30:47] many. You put too many words in the [00:30:49] sentence. Put too many word. There was [00:30:52] too many in the sentence. [00:30:54] She He's She's the mold of Charlie. [00:30:56] What? [00:30:58] Erica Kirk walks in 7 foot one. Hey [00:31:01] guys, what's going on? Here to run [00:31:03] Turning Point been the mold of Charlie. [00:31:06] No, she's not. [00:31:08] No, she's not. Because, and here's the [00:31:11] thing. Here's the thing. Why, right? [00:31:13] Again, I know me and Charlie believe in [00:31:16] the same book pretty heavy [00:31:20] when it comes to being a Christian. Uh [00:31:23] when it comes to a man and wife, uh the [00:31:26] man fills a certain role, the woman [00:31:28] fills a certain role. You were the woman [00:31:30] is not going to be in the mold of the [00:31:32] man because that wouldn't make any [00:31:34] sense. And the man's not going to be in [00:31:36] the mold of the woman. Charlie wanted [00:31:38] her to take care of kids. Be around the [00:31:40] kids. And Erica said in her own her own [00:31:43] words, "Always have food ready for him [00:31:45] when he gets home. Even if it's cold, [00:31:47] I'll reheat it for you, baby." It's [00:31:50] exactly what she said. [00:31:52] So, she's not in the mold of Charlie, [00:31:54] you know, just because they talk about [00:31:55] the business. I talk about the business [00:31:57] all the time with my wife. You think if [00:31:58] something happens to me, my wife's going [00:31:59] to be like, "Let's talk about it, guys. [00:32:03] Are you kidding me? She's not she's not [00:32:05] in the mold of me like that. I'm just [00:32:07] saying, you know. Uh, let's keep going [00:32:10] here. I got another clip. [00:32:12] Let's go." You wouldn't believe the type [00:32:14] of inquiries of the people that want to [00:32:16] talk to her. So, she wants to talk to [00:32:18] you in the audience, real real [00:32:20] Americans. and the people that love [00:32:22] Charlie. And so that's where we're going [00:32:23] to do it. Tomorrow we will have Erica [00:32:25] Kirk, [00:32:26] >> Andrew, and she's actually as we speak [00:32:28] right now, this is what I've been [00:32:29] somebody was like, Andrew's busting [00:32:31] Tyler for being on his phone. Erica is [00:32:33] actually on a a Zoom call with all of [00:32:35] our staff right now, you know, getting [00:32:38] everybody organized, working with [00:32:39] everyone. [00:32:41] >> CEO. She She is at the she like as we [00:32:43] speak right now. That's what [00:32:44] >> a true CEO. Come on, man. I'm just [00:32:48] saying I'm just showing you these clips [00:32:49] because it's like the way that they're [00:32:51] pushing it and we didn't realize at this [00:32:53] point because we're at September like [00:32:55] when they did this podcast I believe it [00:32:57] was like September 20th she's named at [00:32:59] like the 18th or something like that. [00:33:01] That's like very soon after, right? So [00:33:04] right now, so not even two weeks later, [00:33:07] she's like, "Okay guys, let's all get on [00:33:08] a Zoom call together. Let's put this [00:33:10] together." What? [00:33:13] Come on, man. She's a true CEO. [00:33:16] Who even says that? Who even says that? [00:33:20] You know what I mean? That's why you got [00:33:20] to listen to people's words. Who talks [00:33:22] like that? You got to understand what [00:33:24] people are doing. You got to understand [00:33:25] when people are trying to sell you a [00:33:26] car. You know what I mean? You got to [00:33:28] know when somebody's a car salesman. Now [00:33:30] listen to this. [00:33:32] >> Because of who you are and who this [00:33:35] person is that the Turning Point board [00:33:37] has unanimously selected Erica Kirk as [00:33:40] the new CEO and chair. I thought Charlie [00:33:43] wanted it. The board selected her. [00:33:47] Huh? Thought Charlie said when there was [00:33:51] a bunch of people from Philadelphia [00:33:53] surrounding him August 15th. I thought [00:33:55] he said, [00:33:57] am I wrong? I thought he said, "Hey, [00:34:00] she's going to run it." Thought they had [00:34:02] audio, but maybe not video. Thought this [00:34:05] was already something that was [00:34:06] discussed. [00:34:08] The board had to I guess maybe [00:34:11] formalities. [00:34:13] I guess [00:34:15] I don't know. I don't know. Again, [00:34:18] again, this goes back to what I've said [00:34:20] before. [00:34:22] It's because in my opinion, she's like a [00:34:25] vessel. So, it's like, yeah, get her. [00:34:28] Get her. She already has the major [00:34:29] Philadelphia connection. Her father, Ken [00:34:32] Fronzy, or whatever it is, I don't care. [00:34:35] Uh, her mother, Lori Franv, whatever. [00:34:38] Uh, [00:34:41] it's just needlessly disrespectful. I [00:34:43] don't know what your name is. Franv, [00:34:45] whatever. There's a Z. There's There's [00:34:48] too many vowels. Where's What is this? [00:34:51] What kind of name is this? I don't [00:34:52] understand. Um, [00:34:55] what happened to good old names like [00:34:57] Smith? Huh? What's the matter with you? [00:35:02] Uh, [00:35:03] she had the whole connection there and [00:35:05] it just makes sense to put somebody in [00:35:08] like that because like I said, she's [00:35:10] Camala. She's Camala. She's not ready [00:35:12] for the position. [00:35:14] My opinion maybe, perhaps, allegedly. [00:35:18] And she's just she's just there. She's [00:35:20] just a face. That's it. She's just a [00:35:22] face. They're trying to link somebody up [00:35:26] emotionally [00:35:27] to everyone who supported Turning Point [00:35:30] like Charlie. That's all they're trying [00:35:32] to do, right? You can't do that with [00:35:34] anybody else. So, she's the closest one. [00:35:37] That's what I think's going on. Again, [00:35:39] Candace, Candace and Baron sitting down. [00:35:42] Absolutely amazing. And let me let me [00:35:44] know because you guys are here till the [00:35:46] end. Let me know what you think about me [00:35:48] going live. couple of hours, five five [00:35:51] days a week, five mornings a week. I [00:35:54] will become your morning radio in a [00:35:58] sense. So, uh, let let me know what you [00:36:00] guys think of that. And also what I [00:36:02] would be doing in that, I'd probably be [00:36:04] doing a Candace breakdown as well as [00:36:06] what I already do. So, breaking down her [00:36:08] episodes, giving giving uh giving that [00:36:11] whole thing, making helping people [00:36:12] understand, you know, being the Candace [00:36:14] Whisperer that I am, and then adding to [00:36:17] that, uh, doing my own thing, reading [00:36:19] super chats, of course, which I'm going [00:36:21] to do right now. Um, let me know what [00:36:24] you guys think because I I want to jump [00:36:25] in head first and just get this done. I [00:36:27] might even start before the week's over. [00:36:29] Now, um, first person here, Pam, thanks [00:36:32] Colin. I think this was one of your best [00:36:34] shows ever. She's referring to Erica [00:36:37] Kirk the plant if you know that uh that [00:36:40] thumbnail there. And yeah, there was a [00:36:42] lot of stuff to that, man. I mean, you [00:36:44] know, people I just I don't know. I re I [00:36:46] really think that there's something to [00:36:49] her life. I don't I don't think it's [00:36:51] random. It just it looks too weird to be [00:36:53] random. I've lived a life too, right? [00:36:54] Like I'm older than she is. I mean, it's [00:36:57] just so weird. It's so weird. So random. [00:36:59] And also at the same time, so high [00:37:01] level. And then at the same time someone [00:37:04] who's so not yeah not not to be [00:37:07] insulting but so not on the level to be [00:37:09] in these highle rooms. You are in those [00:37:12] type of rooms and situations when you [00:37:15] are more of a puppet. Okay. [00:37:19] No no no offense. [laughter] Somebody [00:37:21] says I stole my husband's Jeep. [00:37:25] That's their name, not what they said. [00:37:27] Uh says you need a cease and desist [00:37:29] letter to send to Baron and Ian. Bet [00:37:31] somebody at Turning Point could help you [00:37:33] draft it up. Love your show so much. [00:37:35] Look forward to it. Yeah, somebody [00:37:37] actually, bro, somebody actually sent me [00:37:40] something. This person's actually in the [00:37:42] legal field. I get an email that says [00:37:44] cease and desist. I go, "Oh my god. Oh [00:37:49] my god." And then I open it and it's [00:37:51] somebody who just wrote like to the p he [00:37:54] wrongfully used. [00:37:57] I'm like, "Oh my god, it's a joke." I'm [00:37:59] like, "What are you doing? Why did And [00:38:01] then when I searched the person's name, [00:38:02] they're really in the legal business. I [00:38:04] was like, "Oh my god, just not the thing [00:38:07] to do to me when I wake when I first [00:38:09] wake up." That's the first thing I see. [00:38:12] But thanks, Renee. Anyway, um [laughter] [00:38:16] Stacy uh FaceTx says, "Sponsoring Ian's [00:38:22] doodle, [00:38:24] however you spell that. Thank you so [00:38:26] much." So she she has paid for Ian. [00:38:29] Thank you very much. Yeah, I really [00:38:30] didn't want to have to take him to [00:38:32] court. I was going to, you know what I [00:38:33] mean? You know, you got to think to [00:38:35] yourself, what would Mikey do, right? [00:38:36] What would Turning Point do? So, I was [00:38:38] like, well, I guess I'm on the way to [00:38:40] court or something. Uh, the professional [00:38:42] civilian says, "The best mental health [00:38:46] support on the interwebs." Thank you so [00:38:48] much. Really appreciate it. Uh, Miss [00:38:51] Cassidy, you have done this before, [00:38:53] miss. Uh, she says, "Okay, so what if [00:38:55] the powers that be used looking glass? [00:38:58] They saw uh they needed to keep an eye [00:39:01] on Candace. They tried, but she didn't [00:39:03] go to their school. Charlie was young, [00:39:04] impressionable kid. They implant the [00:39:07] idea of him needing Candace and dying [00:39:10] young. Their backup plan, if they need [00:39:12] to control Candace, this would mean [00:39:14] Charlie could have been anyone in their [00:39:16] program. Andrew said it was supposed to [00:39:18] be Candace. It's always been about her. [00:39:21] Uh, you know, I listen, I know to some [00:39:23] people that sounds crazy. That doesn't [00:39:25] sound crazy to me. I completely [00:39:26] understand something like that. Uh, [00:39:28] watched Baron's membership. Respect your [00:39:31] hustle and your unique perspective. [00:39:33] Thank you so much. That was a great [00:39:34] time. I'm going to end it off here [00:39:36] because I want to be I'll do one more [00:39:38] actually. Somebody says, "She couldn't [00:39:41] remember living in China either." Yeah, [00:39:43] exactly. She couldn't remember living in [00:39:45] China either. I'm going to keep this [00:39:46] under 40 minutes, but when I go live, [00:39:48] we're going to be hitting probably about [00:39:50] two hours, I would think. Anyways, guys, [00:39:53] thank you so much. I'm out of here.