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[00:00:00] If the suspect is not somebody who [00:00:01] matches up with the profile of a [00:00:03] straight white man of right-wing [music] [00:00:04] orientation, that means it's time for [00:00:06] the police to obscure who the shooter [00:00:08] allegedly was. The person who did the [00:00:10] shooting was trans. One of the worst [00:00:12] shootings in recent memory. According to [00:00:14] the New York Times, Canada was reeling [00:00:15] on Wednesday, a day after a shooter [00:00:17] killed nine people and injured 25 others [00:00:18] in a remote town in northeastern British [00:00:20] Columbia. The third deadliest shooting [00:00:22] in the country's entire history. Seven [00:00:24] people were found dead in Tumblr Ridge [00:00:26] Secondary School, including a person [00:00:27] believed to be the shooter who [00:00:29] apparently committed suicide. Two other [00:00:30] people were found dead in a local [00:00:32] residence people believed was connected [00:00:34] to the shooting. Another person died [00:00:36] while being transported from the school [00:00:37] to the hospital. 25 people suffered [00:00:39] injuries that were not life-threatening. [00:00:42] This was the second deadly incident in [00:00:44] British Columbia in less than a year [00:00:45] because back in April, a man drove a car [00:00:47] into a crowd. Now, the gun laws in [00:00:51] Canada are incredibly strict. Gun [00:00:53] ownership is allowed with a license in [00:00:56] Canada, but they've had a number of gun [00:00:59] buybacks. In the aftermath of shootings [00:01:01] a couple of years ago, Canada tightened [00:01:02] its laws even more. They essentially [00:01:04] banned AR-15s. And so Canada should be [00:01:07] sort of case in point of how gun control [00:01:09] works except for obviously in this case [00:01:11] it did not work. Now, just as [00:01:13] importantly, there are reports that are [00:01:15] filtering out the police know exactly [00:01:17] who did this, and they say they know [00:01:18] exactly who did this, but as per our [00:01:20] usual arrangement, if the suspect is not [00:01:21] somebody who matches up with the profile [00:01:23] of a straight white man of right-wing [00:01:26] orientation, that means it's time for [00:01:27] the police to obscure who the shooter [00:01:29] allegedly was. Staff Sergeant Chris [00:01:32] Clark was asked about all of this. And [00:01:35] and he says that he's not going to name [00:01:36] the shooter and then proceeds to call [00:01:37] the person a gun person, which is a word [00:01:40] I did not know existed. That includes [00:01:41] the deceased gun person. [00:01:43] >> Okay. And then separately, do you know [00:01:45] the gun person's relationship to [00:01:47] >> Okay. Apparently the the gun person, the [00:01:49] reason that this term is is being used, [00:01:51] he says because it would impede the [00:01:53] investigation and for privacy reasons. [00:01:55] And I'm I'm less than concerned about [00:01:56] the privacy of people who go and shoot [00:01:58] school children. I don't really care [00:01:59] very much about their privacy to be [00:02:01] honest with you. I think that that they [00:02:03] should be blasted all out over the news [00:02:05] so long as it's not encouraging further [00:02:07] shooters. Here is the police saying that [00:02:09] they're not going to say anything about [00:02:10] who the shooter was. Usually that's not [00:02:12] about preventing future crime. Usually [00:02:14] that is more about politics. [00:02:16] >> We believe we've uh been able to [00:02:18] identify the shooter, but for privacy [00:02:20] reasons and and obviously for the [00:02:21] conduct of the investigation, we're not [00:02:23] releasing that information at that time [00:02:24] until we're assured that we've connected [00:02:26] with the appropriate people. Okay. [00:02:28] >> Well, the internet quickly went to work [00:02:29] and it appears that the person who did [00:02:32] the shooting was trans. That is at least [00:02:35] the information that is filtering out. [00:02:38] There are questions about this person's [00:02:41] recent move toward identifying as [00:02:44] female, the entire media have identified [00:02:46] this person as female, which is [00:02:49] malpractice. It is journalistic [00:02:50] malpractice. If this person is a [00:02:51] biological male who is masquerading as a [00:02:53] female, a biological male with gender [00:02:55] dysphoria, a biological male insisting [00:02:57] that he be called a woman, that does not [00:02:59] make him a female. And it is a slander [00:03:01] against women to artificially increase [00:03:03] their homicide rate against children by [00:03:05] calling a male a female. If suddenly [00:03:09] statistically there's just an uptick in [00:03:11] women winning boxing matches against men [00:03:15] and being able to dunk and also [00:03:17] committing murder, it seems to me that [00:03:18] that is a slander against women. Because [00:03:20] if you're just calling men women now, [00:03:22] then you got a problem. [00:03:24] is also a perverse incentive that the [00:03:27] only way you earn respect from the [00:03:30] mainstream media and and in and in life [00:03:32] is to do harm to other people at which [00:03:33] point the media will call you by your [00:03:34] preferred pronoun. [00:03:36] And all this information is filtering [00:03:38] out right now. We'll bring you more as [00:03:41] it develops. Once again, societies that [00:03:44] tend to mainstream delusion and treat [00:03:46] them as though they are normal and then [00:03:48] blame the gun, blame the instrument [00:03:50] rather than the mainstreaming of mental [00:03:53] illness, especially mental illness that [00:03:54] has an extraordinarily high crossover [00:03:56] with suicidality and depression. [00:03:59] Nobody is doing anybody any favors. The [00:04:01] people who identify as trans or in [00:04:04] outlying cases, their victims. [00:04:07] And it is very difficult to deny that we [00:04:09] are now seeing a trend with regard to [00:04:11] mass shootings that is emerging from [00:04:14] trans shooters. This was not an issue 15 [00:04:16] years ago. It just wasn't. Derrangement [00:04:19] took other forms. That obviously has [00:04:21] changed and the media and governmental [00:04:24] policy have a lot to do with it. Folks, [00:04:25] the first few months of the year is when [00:04:27] we finally address those messy business [00:04:28] processes and ask, isn't there a better [00:04:30] way? There is. Streamlining your [00:04:32] communications is one of the fastest, [00:04:34] easiest upgrades you can make. Which is [00:04:35] why today's episode is brought to you by [00:04:37] Quo. It's spelled Quo. It's the smarter [00:04:39] way to run your business communications. [00:04:41] Quo is a business phone system that [00:04:43] actually works the way modern teams do, [00:04:45] right from your phone or your computer, [00:04:46] wherever you happen to be. The best [00:04:47] part, your whole team can handle calls [00:04:49] and texts from one shared number, so [00:04:50] everyone sees the full conversation [00:04:52] thread and nothing falls through the [00:04:54] cracks. Plus, Quo's AI automatically [00:04:56] logs your calls and generates summaries [00:04:57] so you're not scrambling to remember [00:04:59] what was said. It's basically [00:05:00] everything. Calls, text, voicemails, [00:05:01] living in one clean place. And that [00:05:03] means your team stays on the same page [00:05:05] and your customers get faster, more [00:05:06] personal responses. It's no wonder over [00:05:08] 90,000 businesses rely on Quo, the [00:05:11] number one rated business phone system [00:05:13] on G2 to stay connected and reachable. [00:05:15] Make this the year where no opportunity [00:05:16] and no customer slips away. Try Quo for [00:05:19] free. Plus, get 20% off your first 6 [00:05:20] months when you go to quo.com/ben. [00:05:22] That's qo.com/benquo. [00:05:25] No missed calls, no missed customers. [00:05:26] Joining us online is Leor's, a senior [00:05:28] fellow at the Manhattan Institute. [00:05:30] Thanks so much for the time. Really [00:05:31] appreciate it. [00:05:31] >> Thanks for having me, Ben. So why don't [00:05:33] we begin with with sort of the news of [00:05:34] the day. So it is now being reported [00:05:36] that the shooter up in Tumblr Ridge in [00:05:40] Canada is a person who identified as [00:05:43] trans. This has become a an alarming [00:05:46] pattern in which people who identify as [00:05:48] trans uh have been engaged in acts of [00:05:50] violence. This of course is not totally [00:05:52] surprising given the fact that people [00:05:54] who identify as trans have a very very [00:05:56] high rate of of suicidality of of [00:05:58] depression. And you know, again, the the [00:06:02] media continue to treat this as though [00:06:03] this is of of no consequence. They [00:06:06] they're referring to the prospective [00:06:07] shooter up in Tumblr Ridge as a she, [00:06:10] even though pretty clearly there's a [00:06:11] biological he. And this goes to kind of [00:06:13] our entire society's willingness to say [00:06:15] things that are biologically false, [00:06:17] supposedly in pursuit of sympathy for [00:06:19] people who are suffering from a mental [00:06:21] disorder. And and that of course is not [00:06:23] backed by medicine, which is the thing [00:06:24] that you're writing about. [00:06:27] >> That's right. That's right. Um, and so [00:06:29] these are very troubled young, usually [00:06:31] young, uh, adolescent boys, young men, [00:06:35] um, who have, you know, a wide range of [00:06:37] mental health problems and usually very [00:06:39] troubled histories and, um, and they're [00:06:42] not getting the care that they need. [00:06:43] They're not getting the societal [00:06:44] response that they deserve. Um, and [00:06:48] instead, you know, they're being led [00:06:49] down a path where they believe that, um, [00:06:51] things like transition will be a cure [00:06:54] for all their problems when we just know [00:06:56] that that's not the case. Um, so it's [00:06:58] it's unfortunate that we've gotten to [00:07:00] this point, but you know, hopefully [00:07:02] there will be a wakeup moment uh in the [00:07:04] near future. [00:07:07] So, speaking of that, it's it's been [00:07:09] pretty amazing how over the course of [00:07:10] the last couple of weeks, major medical [00:07:13] groups have now come out and completely [00:07:15] reversed themselves on what they were [00:07:16] saying on quote unquote gender affirming [00:07:18] care for years. For years, it was D. [00:07:19] Regor in the medical community to [00:07:21] proclaim that hormone treatment, that [00:07:24] social transition, that that actual [00:07:27] surgery was the solution for people [00:07:29] suffering for gender dysphoria, [00:07:30] particularly minors, because the idea [00:07:32] was that if you didn't arrest puberty [00:07:34] when a kid was 11 years old, that that [00:07:37] person will look more like their [00:07:38] biological sex than they otherwise [00:07:40] would, and so you're doing them a grave [00:07:41] of harm. Now, after a few lawsuits and [00:07:43] after it turns out that the science [00:07:44] doesn't reflect any of this, we're [00:07:46] suddenly getting the the slow and soft [00:07:48] walk back of oh well actually we don't [00:07:50] have any evidence to show this worked in [00:07:51] the first place. So, we've had thousands [00:07:53] presumably of children who've been [00:07:55] surgically or or hormonally mutilated. [00:07:57] And does anyone pay a price for this? [00:07:59] What what was the actual driving factor [00:08:00] in them suddenly changing their tune? [00:08:02] >> Well, I guess the first thing I would [00:08:04] say is this was never a wide and deep [00:08:06] consensus of the medical profession. Um, [00:08:08] this was always a consensus brought [00:08:10] about by a very small number of medical [00:08:13] organizations and one activist [00:08:15] organization that claims to be a medical [00:08:16] group. That's the World Professional [00:08:18] Association for Transgender Health. And [00:08:20] once you start looking into how the [00:08:22] consensus came about, you you start to [00:08:24] realize that it was the result of a, you [00:08:26] know, activists usually in key [00:08:28] committees within these organizations [00:08:30] um capturing the decision-m mechanisms [00:08:33] and then the rest of the medical [00:08:34] community remaining silent or saying [00:08:36] look we're just going to trust our [00:08:38] colleagues because they're experts in [00:08:39] this area and you know we always trust [00:08:42] um we always defer to our expert [00:08:44] colleagues in medicine. So, um I think [00:08:46] that's really important just to start [00:08:47] there that this was never a wide and [00:08:49] deep consensus, but you're right. Um uh [00:08:52] you know, we've had last week we saw the [00:08:54] first major medical group come out and [00:08:56] say, um at least surgeries should be [00:08:58] deferred until, uh, you know, minimum [00:09:01] age 19. Um and I should point out that [00:09:04] the American Society of Plastic [00:09:05] Surgeons, that's the organization that [00:09:07] published this statement, um is the [00:09:09] largest organization of its kind. It [00:09:11] represents 11,000 um plastic surgeons in [00:09:14] the United States and Canada, which is [00:09:16] over 90% of the field. So this is a [00:09:17] major major medical group. Um and the [00:09:20] American Medical Association the [00:09:22] following day issued its own statement [00:09:24] um to the New York Times and National [00:09:26] Review um basically saying agreeing with [00:09:28] uh with their colleagues, their surgeon [00:09:30] colleagues, but they added the word [00:09:32] generally. They said surgeries should [00:09:34] generally be deferred until age 19 or [00:09:36] above. Um and so if you know anything [00:09:39] about the field and how it operates, [00:09:40] that is a massive loophole. Um so it [00:09:43] remains to be seen what exactly the [00:09:44] AMA's position on this is. But the fact [00:09:46] that the ASPS [00:09:49] um issued this statement and it's a [00:09:51] extremely good statement and we can we [00:09:52] can talk about it, but it it's it's a [00:09:54] very very important moment. [00:09:56] >> Did you like this clip? Well, you can [00:09:57] get more of these clips on our new [00:09:59] YouTube channel, Ben Shapiro Clips. [00:10:02] Click that subscribe button down below [00:10:03] right
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[00:00:00] If the suspect is not somebody who [00:00:01] matches up with the profile of a [00:00:03] straight white man of right-wing [music] [00:00:04] orientation, that means it's time for [00:00:06] the police to obscure who the shooter [00:00:08] allegedly was. The person who did the [00:00:10] shooting was trans. One of the worst [00:00:12] shootings in recent memory. According to [00:00:14] the New York Times, Canada was reeling [00:00:15] on Wednesday, a day after a shooter [00:00:17] killed nine people and injured 25 others [00:00:18] in a remote town in northeastern British [00:00:20] Columbia. The third deadliest shooting [00:00:22] in the country's entire history. Seven [00:00:24] people were found dead in Tumblr Ridge [00:00:26] Secondary School, including a person [00:00:27] believed to be the shooter who [00:00:29] apparently committed suicide. Two other [00:00:30] people were found dead in a local [00:00:32] residence people believed was connected [00:00:34] to the shooting. Another person died [00:00:36] while being transported from the school [00:00:37] to the hospital. 25 people suffered [00:00:39] injuries that were not life-threatening. [00:00:42] This was the second deadly incident in [00:00:44] British Columbia in less than a year [00:00:45] because back in April, a man drove a car [00:00:47] into a crowd. Now, the gun laws in [00:00:51] Canada are incredibly strict. Gun [00:00:53] ownership is allowed with a license in [00:00:56] Canada, but they've had a number of gun [00:00:59] buybacks. In the aftermath of shootings [00:01:01] a couple of years ago, Canada tightened [00:01:02] its laws even more. They essentially [00:01:04] banned AR-15s. And so Canada should be [00:01:07] sort of case in point of how gun control [00:01:09] works except for obviously in this case [00:01:11] it did not work. Now, just as [00:01:13] importantly, there are reports that are [00:01:15] filtering out the police know exactly [00:01:17] who did this, and they say they know [00:01:18] exactly who did this, but as per our [00:01:20] usual arrangement, if the suspect is not [00:01:21] somebody who matches up with the profile [00:01:23] of a straight white man of right-wing [00:01:26] orientation, that means it's time for [00:01:27] the police to obscure who the shooter [00:01:29] allegedly was. Staff Sergeant Chris [00:01:32] Clark was asked about all of this. And [00:01:35] and he says that he's not going to name [00:01:36] the shooter and then proceeds to call [00:01:37] the person a gun person, which is a word [00:01:40] I did not know existed. That includes [00:01:41] the deceased gun person. [00:01:43] >> Okay. And then separately, do you know [00:01:45] the gun person's relationship to [00:01:47] >> Okay. Apparently the the gun person, the [00:01:49] reason that this term is is being used, [00:01:51] he says because it would impede the [00:01:53] investigation and for privacy reasons. [00:01:55] And I'm I'm less than concerned about [00:01:56] the privacy of people who go and shoot [00:01:58] school children. I don't really care [00:01:59] very much about their privacy to be [00:02:01] honest with you. I think that that they [00:02:03] should be blasted all out over the news [00:02:05] so long as it's not encouraging further [00:02:07] shooters. Here is the police saying that [00:02:09] they're not going to say anything about [00:02:10] who the shooter was. Usually that's not [00:02:12] about preventing future crime. Usually [00:02:14] that is more about politics. [00:02:16] >> We believe we've uh been able to [00:02:18] identify the shooter, but for privacy [00:02:20] reasons and and obviously for the [00:02:21] conduct of the investigation, we're not [00:02:23] releasing that information at that time [00:02:24] until we're assured that we've connected [00:02:26] with the appropriate people. Okay. [00:02:28] >> Well, the internet quickly went to work [00:02:29] and it appears that the person who did [00:02:32] the shooting was trans. That is at least [00:02:35] the information that is filtering out. [00:02:38] There are questions about this person's [00:02:41] recent move toward identifying as [00:02:44] female, the entire media have identified [00:02:46] this person as female, which is [00:02:49] malpractice. It is journalistic [00:02:50] malpractice. If this person is a [00:02:51] biological male who is masquerading as a [00:02:53] female, a biological male with gender [00:02:55] dysphoria, a biological male insisting [00:02:57] that he be called a woman, that does not [00:02:59] make him a female. And it is a slander [00:03:01] against women to artificially increase [00:03:03] their homicide rate against children by [00:03:05] calling a male a female. If suddenly [00:03:09] statistically there's just an uptick in [00:03:11] women winning boxing matches against men [00:03:15] and being able to dunk and also [00:03:17] committing murder, it seems to me that [00:03:18] that is a slander against women. Because [00:03:20] if you're just calling men women now, [00:03:22] then you got a problem. [00:03:24] is also a perverse incentive that the [00:03:27] only way you earn respect from the [00:03:30] mainstream media and and in and in life [00:03:32] is to do harm to other people at which [00:03:33] point the media will call you by your [00:03:34] preferred pronoun. [00:03:36] And all this information is filtering [00:03:38] out right now. We'll bring you more as [00:03:41] it develops. Once again, societies that [00:03:44] tend to mainstream delusion and treat [00:03:46] them as though they are normal and then [00:03:48] blame the gun, blame the instrument [00:03:50] rather than the mainstreaming of mental [00:03:53] illness, especially mental illness that [00:03:54] has an extraordinarily high crossover [00:03:56] with suicidality and depression. [00:03:59] Nobody is doing anybody any favors. The [00:04:01] people who identify as trans or in [00:04:04] outlying cases, their victims. [00:04:07] And it is very difficult to deny that we [00:04:09] are now seeing a trend with regard to [00:04:11] mass shootings that is emerging from [00:04:14] trans shooters. This was not an issue 15 [00:04:16] years ago. It just wasn't. Derrangement [00:04:19] took other forms. That obviously has [00:04:21] changed and the media and governmental [00:04:24] policy have a lot to do with it. Folks, [00:04:25] the first few months of the year is when [00:04:27] we finally address those messy business [00:04:28] processes and ask, isn't there a better [00:04:30] way? There is. Streamlining your [00:04:32] communications is one of the fastest, [00:04:34] easiest upgrades you can make. Which is [00:04:35] why today's episode is brought to you by [00:04:37] Quo. It's spelled Quo. It's the smarter [00:04:39] way to run your business communications. [00:04:41] Quo is a business phone system that [00:04:43] actually works the way modern teams do, [00:04:45] right from your phone or your computer, [00:04:46] wherever you happen to be. The best [00:04:47] part, your whole team can handle calls [00:04:49] and texts from one shared number, so [00:04:50] everyone sees the full conversation [00:04:52] thread and nothing falls through the [00:04:54] cracks. Plus, Quo's AI automatically [00:04:56] logs your calls and generates summaries [00:04:57] so you're not scrambling to remember [00:04:59] what was said. It's basically [00:05:00] everything. Calls, text, voicemails, [00:05:01] living in one clean place. And that [00:05:03] means your team stays on the same page [00:05:05] and your customers get faster, more [00:05:06] personal responses. It's no wonder over [00:05:08] 90,000 businesses rely on Quo, the [00:05:11] number one rated business phone system [00:05:13] on G2 to stay connected and reachable. [00:05:15] Make this the year where no opportunity [00:05:16] and no customer slips away. Try Quo for [00:05:19] free. Plus, get 20% off your first 6 [00:05:20] months when you go to quo.com/ben. [00:05:22] That's qo.com/benquo. [00:05:25] No missed calls, no missed customers. [00:05:26] Joining us online is Leor's, a senior [00:05:28] fellow at the Manhattan Institute. [00:05:30] Thanks so much for the time. Really [00:05:31] appreciate it. [00:05:31] >> Thanks for having me, Ben. So why don't [00:05:33] we begin with with sort of the news of [00:05:34] the day. So it is now being reported [00:05:36] that the shooter up in Tumblr Ridge in [00:05:40] Canada is a person who identified as [00:05:43] trans. This has become a an alarming [00:05:46] pattern in which people who identify as [00:05:48] trans uh have been engaged in acts of [00:05:50] violence. This of course is not totally [00:05:52] surprising given the fact that people [00:05:54] who identify as trans have a very very [00:05:56] high rate of of suicidality of of [00:05:58] depression. And you know, again, the the [00:06:02] media continue to treat this as though [00:06:03] this is of of no consequence. They [00:06:06] they're referring to the prospective [00:06:07] shooter up in Tumblr Ridge as a she, [00:06:10] even though pretty clearly there's a [00:06:11] biological he. And this goes to kind of [00:06:13] our entire society's willingness to say [00:06:15] things that are biologically false, [00:06:17] supposedly in pursuit of sympathy for [00:06:19] people who are suffering from a mental [00:06:21] disorder. And and that of course is not [00:06:23] backed by medicine, which is the thing [00:06:24] that you're writing about. [00:06:27] >> That's right. That's right. Um, and so [00:06:29] these are very troubled young, usually [00:06:31] young, uh, adolescent boys, young men, [00:06:35] um, who have, you know, a wide range of [00:06:37] mental health problems and usually very [00:06:39] troubled histories and, um, and they're [00:06:42] not getting the care that they need. [00:06:43] They're not getting the societal [00:06:44] response that they deserve. Um, and [00:06:48] instead, you know, they're being led [00:06:49] down a path where they believe that, um, [00:06:51] things like transition will be a cure [00:06:54] for all their problems when we just know [00:06:56] that that's not the case. Um, so it's [00:06:58] it's unfortunate that we've gotten to [00:07:00] this point, but you know, hopefully [00:07:02] there will be a wakeup moment uh in the [00:07:04] near future. [00:07:07] So, speaking of that, it's it's been [00:07:09] pretty amazing how over the course of [00:07:10] the last couple of weeks, major medical [00:07:13] groups have now come out and completely [00:07:15] reversed themselves on what they were [00:07:16] saying on quote unquote gender affirming [00:07:18] care for years. For years, it was D. [00:07:19] Regor in the medical community to [00:07:21] proclaim that hormone treatment, that [00:07:24] social transition, that that actual [00:07:27] surgery was the solution for people [00:07:29] suffering for gender dysphoria, [00:07:30] particularly minors, because the idea [00:07:32] was that if you didn't arrest puberty [00:07:34] when a kid was 11 years old, that that [00:07:37] person will look more like their [00:07:38] biological sex than they otherwise [00:07:40] would, and so you're doing them a grave [00:07:41] of harm. Now, after a few lawsuits and [00:07:43] after it turns out that the science [00:07:44] doesn't reflect any of this, we're [00:07:46] suddenly getting the the slow and soft [00:07:48] walk back of oh well actually we don't [00:07:50] have any evidence to show this worked in [00:07:51] the first place. So, we've had thousands [00:07:53] presumably of children who've been [00:07:55] surgically or or hormonally mutilated. [00:07:57] And does anyone pay a price for this? [00:07:59] What what was the actual driving factor [00:08:00] in them suddenly changing their tune? [00:08:02] >> Well, I guess the first thing I would [00:08:04] say is this was never a wide and deep [00:08:06] consensus of the medical profession. Um, [00:08:08] this was always a consensus brought [00:08:10] about by a very small number of medical [00:08:13] organizations and one activist [00:08:15] organization that claims to be a medical [00:08:16] group. That's the World Professional [00:08:18] Association for Transgender Health. And [00:08:20] once you start looking into how the [00:08:22] consensus came about, you you start to [00:08:24] realize that it was the result of a, you [00:08:26] know, activists usually in key [00:08:28] committees within these organizations [00:08:30] um capturing the decision-m mechanisms [00:08:33] and then the rest of the medical [00:08:34] community remaining silent or saying [00:08:36] look we're just going to trust our [00:08:38] colleagues because they're experts in [00:08:39] this area and you know we always trust [00:08:42] um we always defer to our expert [00:08:44] colleagues in medicine. So, um I think [00:08:46] that's really important just to start [00:08:47] there that this was never a wide and [00:08:49] deep consensus, but you're right. Um uh [00:08:52] you know, we've had last week we saw the [00:08:54] first major medical group come out and [00:08:56] say, um at least surgeries should be [00:08:58] deferred until, uh, you know, minimum [00:09:01] age 19. Um and I should point out that [00:09:04] the American Society of Plastic [00:09:05] Surgeons, that's the organization that [00:09:07] published this statement, um is the [00:09:09] largest organization of its kind. It [00:09:11] represents 11,000 um plastic surgeons in [00:09:14] the United States and Canada, which is [00:09:16] over 90% of the field. So this is a [00:09:17] major major medical group. Um and the [00:09:20] American Medical Association the [00:09:22] following day issued its own statement [00:09:24] um to the New York Times and National [00:09:26] Review um basically saying agreeing with [00:09:28] uh with their colleagues, their surgeon [00:09:30] colleagues, but they added the word [00:09:32] generally. They said surgeries should [00:09:34] generally be deferred until age 19 or [00:09:36] above. Um and so if you know anything [00:09:39] about the field and how it operates, [00:09:40] that is a massive loophole. Um so it [00:09:43] remains to be seen what exactly the [00:09:44] AMA's position on this is. But the fact [00:09:46] that the ASPS [00:09:49] um issued this statement and it's a [00:09:51] extremely good statement and we can we [00:09:52] can talk about it, but it it's it's a [00:09:54] very very important moment. [00:09:56] >> Did you like this clip? Well, you can [00:09:57] get more of these clips on our new [00:09:59] YouTube channel, Ben Shapiro Clips. [00:10:02] Click that subscribe button down below [00:10:03] right
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