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[00:00:00] What's up everyone and welcome back to [00:00:02] another edition of our Mintcast podcast [00:00:04] here at Mintress News. I am your host [00:00:06] Manar Adi. I'm the founder and director [00:00:09] of Mint Press News. Now, as important as [00:00:13] the war of missiles and guns are for [00:00:16] Israel is the propaganda war for Western [00:00:18] hearts and minds. And to that end, the [00:00:21] Israeli government has increased its [00:00:23] budget for Hasbbor, Foreign Public [00:00:26] Relations, by more than 2,000%. [00:00:30] The Foreign Ministry alone is slated to [00:00:32] spend over $150 million this year on [00:00:36] propaganda and public relations. So, [00:00:39] where does all of this money go? [00:00:41] Platforms such as Google, that's where [00:00:43] they go. Google is making gigantic [00:00:46] profits airing Israeli propaganda to [00:00:49] Europeans in searches and on YouTube. [00:00:52] Now, Google is a willing participant in [00:00:55] the slaughter and famine and as a close [00:00:59] partner of Israel, having spent tens of [00:01:01] billions propping up the faltering [00:01:04] Israeli economy. Joining me today to [00:01:07] discuss the PR war is our resident [00:01:10] propaganda expert and senior staff [00:01:12] writer um here at Mintress News, Alan [00:01:14] Mloud. Alan has recently published [00:01:17] investigations on Mint Press News [00:01:20] studying the Israeli propaganda drive on [00:01:22] YouTube and on the close links between [00:01:25] Google and the state of Israel. Welcome [00:01:28] back, Alan. [00:01:30] >> Hey, it's great to be back with you, [00:01:32] Mor. [00:01:33] Well, I'm always excited to speak with [00:01:35] you, Alan, because our work together has [00:01:38] always helped expose um the way in which [00:01:42] propaganda is formulated and spread out [00:01:46] across these big tech platforms and [00:01:48] broadcasted to the world. Um, your [00:01:51] recent investigation found that the [00:01:53] Israeli Foreign Ministry has spent [00:01:55] millions targeting Europeans with slick [00:01:58] ad campaigns on Google platforms. Let's [00:02:01] actually watch one of these uh videos [00:02:03] now and I want to get your reaction. [00:02:06] >> Israel launched operation rising line, a [00:02:09] targeted military operation to roll back [00:02:11] the Iranian threat to Israel's very [00:02:14] survival. For decades, the tyrants of [00:02:16] Thran have brazenly openly called for [00:02:19] Israel's destruction. They backed up [00:02:21] their genocidal rhetoric with a program [00:02:23] to develop nuclear weapons. In recent [00:02:25] years, Iran has produced enough [00:02:27] highlyenriched uranium for nine atom [00:02:30] bombs. Nine. We struck at the heart of [00:02:33] Iran's nuclear enrichment program. We [00:02:35] struck at the heart of Iran's nuclear [00:02:37] weaponization program. We targeted [00:02:39] Iran's main enrichment facility in [00:02:41] Natans. We targeted Iran's leading [00:02:43] nuclear scientists working on the [00:02:45] Iranian bomb. We also struck at the [00:02:47] heart of Iran's ballistic missile [00:02:48] program. I want to assure the civilized [00:02:51] world, we will not let the world's most [00:02:53] dangerous regime get the world's most [00:02:55] dangerous weapons. The increasing range [00:02:57] of Iran's ballistic missiles would bring [00:02:59] that nuclear nightmare to the cities of [00:03:02] Europe and eventually to America. [00:03:04] Remember, Iran calls Israel the small [00:03:06] Satan. It calls America the great Satan. [00:03:10] Never again is now. Today, Israel has [00:03:13] shown that we have learned the lessons [00:03:14] of history. When enemies vow to destroy [00:03:17] you, believe them. When enemies build [00:03:19] weapons of mass death, stop them. As the [00:03:22] Bible teaches us, when someone comes to [00:03:24] kill you, rise and act first. [00:03:28] >> Wow. There's a lot there's a lot to [00:03:30] unpack in this one. I mean, we are going [00:03:32] from talking about Iran, of course, [00:03:34] that's Netanyahu's uh voice there that [00:03:37] we heard, but we're going from Iran is [00:03:39] on its way to building nine atomic bombs [00:03:42] to we have to stop Iran from building a [00:03:44] bomb. Um, and I I just love that he ends [00:03:48] with uh citing the Bible. So, let's get [00:03:52] your reaction to this, Alan. [00:03:54] >> Yeah, as you said, that's Benjamin [00:03:56] Netanyahu, prime minister of Israel [00:03:58] himself, which really shows the [00:04:00] importance of this propaganda operation [00:04:02] for the Israeli government that they [00:04:05] would enlist the prime minister of [00:04:07] Israel himself to appear in these ads. [00:04:09] That really shows you just the sort of [00:04:13] resources that are being targeted [00:04:14] towards what Netanyahu in his own words [00:04:18] rather racistly called the civilized [00:04:20] world in that clip we just saw. As if [00:04:23] Israel, that's the message that Israel [00:04:25] is basically the entity which is [00:04:27] standing between the civilized world of [00:04:29] Europe and the United States and the [00:04:31] barbarous world of Iran which is trying [00:04:34] to develop a nuclear weapon in order to [00:04:37] destroy itself. Now, as you said, the [00:04:39] Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, [00:04:42] their budget for PR and Hasbbor, which [00:04:44] is what they call uh PR in Israel, has [00:04:48] grown to over $150 million, which is [00:04:51] well over 2,000% raise from last year. [00:04:55] And as we saw, the content of what they [00:04:57] put out is basically that Iran [00:04:59] represents a huge threat, and it's all [00:05:01] about justifying Israel's actions to a [00:05:04] Western audience. Now, in the past few [00:05:07] weeks alone, my um my investigation [00:05:10] found that the Israeli government have [00:05:12] managed to reach at least 45 million [00:05:16] Europeans on YouTube alone. And that's [00:05:19] just one platform and one ministry, the [00:05:22] Ministry of Foreign Affairs. So, that [00:05:23] doesn't include Google um uh Google ads [00:05:27] themselves, ads on Facebook, WhatsApp, [00:05:29] Telegram, Tik Tok, whatever. and it [00:05:31] doesn't uh it doesn't host uh account [00:05:34] for the myriad of pro-Israel [00:05:36] organizations which basically pump out [00:05:38] the same stuff. Now, you can also tell [00:05:40] that this is a highly inorganic campaign [00:05:43] because if you go to the uh Israeli [00:05:45] Ministry of Foreign Affairs own YouTube [00:05:47] channel, they also have other uh ads or [00:05:51] or videos that they do not promote. And [00:05:54] those ones receive only tens of views [00:05:56] per day rather than hundreds of [00:05:58] thousands or in fact millions in some [00:06:00] cases. So we're really living through [00:06:03] just the most enormous propaganda [00:06:05] campaign that we can really envisage. [00:06:09] The scale of which uh really beggars [00:06:12] belief and that's one reason that really [00:06:13] piqued my interest in this. I was in [00:06:15] Europe recently [00:06:17] and I was just bombarded with these [00:06:20] Israeli government ads every time I [00:06:22] tried to watch a YouTube clip and they [00:06:23] were even trying to reach me which I [00:06:25] found pretty ironic. So yeah, this is [00:06:28] going on. There is a battle for hearts [00:06:30] and minds which is absolutely as [00:06:32] important to the Israeli government as [00:06:34] the battle against Iran and other uh [00:06:36] neighbors of Israel. [00:06:38] Well, it's so interesting that they're [00:06:40] spending so much money on these [00:06:43] propaganda campaign ads to, you know, [00:06:46] pull at the heartstrings of uh people [00:06:49] across Europe to get them to support uh [00:06:52] Israel's endless war machine against [00:06:56] Iran and its genocide in Gaza. Of [00:06:58] course, we all know that the war in Iran [00:07:00] is or the Israel's war against Iran is a [00:07:03] distraction from what Israel is [00:07:05] committing genocide in Gaza. But the [00:07:08] truth on the ground actually says [00:07:11] something completely different. I mean, [00:07:13] people in general, I would say humanity [00:07:16] in general are with the Palestinian [00:07:19] people and are opposed to um an expanded [00:07:23] USbacked Israeli war against Iran. Is [00:07:26] that correct? [00:07:28] Oh, most definitely. I mean, Israel is [00:07:31] trying to target European uh countries [00:07:34] in this operation, but the studies that [00:07:36] are coming out of Europe show that the [00:07:38] people of Europe are absolutely they [00:07:40] absolutely despise what Israel is doing. [00:07:42] So for example uh a new study from [00:07:45] British pollster Yuggov actually found [00:07:47] that only 16% of Western European [00:07:50] publics hold a favorable opinion of [00:07:52] Israel compared to more than 66% [00:07:55] expressing an unfavorable view. In fact [00:07:58] more than 10 times as many Europeans [00:07:59] have a very unfavorable view of Israel [00:08:02] 39.7% [00:08:04] as hold a very favorable one which is [00:08:06] 3.5%. There was a recent poll in the [00:08:08] United Kingdom that showed that 57% of [00:08:11] the country want uh the UK to stop [00:08:14] selling arms to Israel and that 82% of [00:08:17] the public think that Israel is [00:08:18] committing a genocide in Gaza and only [00:08:21] 6% of the British public said no uh [00:08:24] they're not. This is pretty interesting [00:08:28] uh because this poll shows that even [00:08:31] bastions of pro-Israel support like [00:08:33] Germany uh really when you actually look [00:08:36] at what the public think uh it's really [00:08:38] not the case that the Germans are lining [00:08:40] up uh to support Israel again what we [00:08:44] see there is that only 4% of uh [00:08:47] respondents in Germany have a highly [00:08:49] positive opinion of Israel compared to [00:08:52] twothirds of the population who hold [00:08:54] unfavorable views. [00:08:55] So what's really going on right now is [00:08:57] that Israel is really bombarding us with [00:09:00] this propaganda, but they're doing that [00:09:03] precisely because the public is turning [00:09:05] against them. Uh this is really an [00:09:08] existential problem for Israel because [00:09:10] it drives its legitimacy and it uh its [00:09:13] support ultimately and its safety and [00:09:15] security from Western Europe and from [00:09:18] the United States which continually uh [00:09:20] provide economic benefits for Israel [00:09:22] help it economically, politically and [00:09:24] militarily because without support of [00:09:27] Western Europe and the United States uh [00:09:29] this genocide simply couldn't go on for [00:09:31] even a couple of weeks longer. [00:09:35] Well, and I want to unpack the um [00:09:37] because we have another video that we're [00:09:39] going to watch um and we're going to [00:09:40] also get your reaction and my reaction [00:09:42] from this video. But before we get into [00:09:44] that, I want to unpack the other aspect [00:09:46] of this video, which is um all of these [00:09:49] accusations about nuclear weapons made [00:09:51] against Iran by BB Netanyahu himself, [00:09:54] who has been making these accusations [00:09:56] against Iran since the 1980s. But in [00:09:58] fact uh Iran has uh released a fatwa [00:10:02] which is an Islamic ruling that it is [00:10:05] forbidden to uh create a any sort of [00:10:09] nuclear weapons that it's not it's not [00:10:12] good for Iran. And so [00:10:16] talk to us more about this propaganda [00:10:18] and this kind of uh witch hunt against [00:10:20] Iran and this red herring of um of [00:10:25] nuclear weapons. [00:10:28] Well, you said it there. Uh, the [00:10:30] government of Iran has been stridently [00:10:31] against nuclear weapons ever since the [00:10:34] Islamic uh, revolution. And yet, in the [00:10:37] past few weeks and months, we've seen [00:10:38] the public start to turn on that [00:10:40] position and try to put pressure on the [00:10:42] government to develop a nuclear weapon. [00:10:44] Even some of the more secular, liberal, [00:10:46] more pro-western uh, elements within [00:10:49] Iran are now starting to heavily [00:10:51] criticize the Ayatollah's decision not [00:10:52] to pursue nuclear weapons. And the whole [00:10:55] thing is bizarre and ridiculous on its [00:10:59] face because of course there is one [00:11:01] country in the Middle East or more [00:11:03] accurately as we should call it West [00:11:04] Asia that does have nuclear weapons and [00:11:07] that is Israel. It has on the lowest [00:11:10] count around 80 nuclear weapons and some [00:11:12] people uh credible sources suggest that [00:11:14] it might be up to 200 or even slightly [00:11:16] more than 200 nuclear weapons that they [00:11:18] possess. So we've got a situation where [00:11:21] the only nuclear armed country in West [00:11:23] Asia is trying to scaremonger the world [00:11:27] to about a country which does not [00:11:29] possess nuclear weapons that they might [00:11:31] one day in the future have nuclear [00:11:33] weapons and then use them against a [00:11:35] nuclear armed state. The whole thing is [00:11:37] absurd on its face. And every time [00:11:39] Benjamin Netanyahu goes to the United [00:11:41] Nations with a big caricature of like [00:11:43] cartoon picture of a bomb and says Iran [00:11:45] is weeks or months away from developing [00:11:48] nuclear weapons, we've heard it all [00:11:49] before. We've heard it in the 2010s, the [00:11:51] 2000s, the 1990s. You can go back to the [00:11:54] 1980s and see Israeli officials warning [00:11:57] that the Iranians are so close to [00:12:00] developing a nuclear weapon and we have [00:12:02] to step in. The fact of the matter is is [00:12:04] that this is a justification for what [00:12:06] they've been wanting to do for decades, [00:12:08] which is strike at Iran because Iran [00:12:10] poses a threat to Israel. It's not an [00:12:13] aggressive or military threat, but it's [00:12:15] the threat of a country that's not [00:12:17] following orders. There aren't that many [00:12:19] countries in Western Asia that are [00:12:21] actually actively trying to uh oppose [00:12:24] Israel. Frankly, you can count them on [00:12:26] the hands uh of one fing uh of your [00:12:29] fingers on one hand. Unfortunately, [00:12:31] that's the case. too many of these [00:12:32] governments are actually tacitly or [00:12:34] sometimes not even so tacitly supporting [00:12:36] what Israel is doing. And so that's [00:12:38] really the whole bizarre propaganda [00:12:41] bizarre world we live in where as I said [00:12:44] uh a nuclear armed country uh that is [00:12:47] threatening and bombing six countries [00:12:49] simultaneously is trying to scareer uh [00:12:52] the world into believing that Iran a [00:12:54] country without nuclear weapons uh is [00:12:56] somehow a threat to the world when it's [00:12:58] actually exactly the opposite going on. [00:13:01] >> Absolutely. And we know that this is all [00:13:03] a red herring to, you know, to to to [00:13:07] fearmonger about Iran. But in reality, [00:13:09] Iran poses poses an economic threat to [00:13:13] um Israel and to other countries in the [00:13:16] region for its resources. It's a very [00:13:18] self-sufficient country. Uh but most [00:13:21] importantly, it's an anti-imperialist [00:13:23] country and it's supporting resistance [00:13:25] movements in the region that are [00:13:26] standing up and pushing back against US [00:13:29] and Israeli imperialism. Um, and that's [00:13:31] why Iran truly does pose a threat to uh [00:13:35] to Israel. But of course, um, the United [00:13:37] States knows that it probably can't win [00:13:40] a war with Iran. Um, even Israel knows [00:13:44] that a war with Iran wouldn't even uh [00:13:47] work without the backing and support of [00:13:49] the United States. But the United States [00:13:51] has showed great restraint. It showed [00:13:53] that it doesn't want this war despite [00:13:55] its um you know theatrical uh missile [00:13:58] strikes against these empty nuclear uh [00:14:01] sites inside of Iran. [00:14:03] But um you know we have to wait and see [00:14:06] because you know Netanyahu just in the [00:14:08] last month has met with the Trump [00:14:09] administration to what we believe is [00:14:12] pushing [00:14:14] to convince the Trump administration to [00:14:16] push for more war uh with Iran. But [00:14:20] clearly they're not giving up. So [00:14:21] they're they're you know we watched a [00:14:24] ceasefire say called c ceasefire but [00:14:27] Israel is clearly paying a lot of money [00:14:29] for this haz um YouTube uh propaganda [00:14:32] and I just want to remind everybody too [00:14:34] like mint press has been targeted by [00:14:37] Google through Google owl and we've been [00:14:39] suppressed we've been um delisted and [00:14:43] demoted uh blacklisted um within search [00:14:47] results while Google is now actively [00:14:50] taking this money from the state of [00:14:51] Israel from an apartheid state that is [00:14:53] engaging in genocide and pushing that [00:14:56] haz propaganda to push for war with Iran [00:14:59] which shows what is acceptable [00:15:02] um coverage on these big tech platforms [00:15:05] anti-war journalism that holds the elite [00:15:08] accountable the military class [00:15:09] accountable or war propaganda clearly [00:15:12] war propaganda is okay as long as it [00:15:15] reinforces the militaryindustrial [00:15:18] complex. So, we're going to watch this [00:15:20] next video that we've prepared and we'll [00:15:21] get your reaction to that. Um, Alan, as [00:15:23] well, [00:15:24] >> imagine this. You're holding your [00:15:26] newborn in a hospital room. Then the air [00:15:29] raid sirens go off. Iran fires ballistic [00:15:32] missiles at hospitals, at innocent [00:15:34] Israelis, patients, doctors, newborn [00:15:38] babies deliberately targeted. While Iran [00:15:40] aims at families and children, Israel [00:15:43] responds with precision, striking [00:15:45] military sites. This is not a war of [00:15:47] choice. Those who target civilians and [00:15:50] hospitals become the target. [00:15:55] >> Uh to me it sounds like Israel suffers [00:15:57] from a syndrome called projection [00:15:59] syndrome that they would call in like [00:16:01] psychiatry wards. What do you think, [00:16:02] Alan? [00:16:04] >> Yeah, I mean it's interesting that we [00:16:06] are invited to think of ourselves as the [00:16:10] Israeli mother. We're not invited to [00:16:11] think of ourselves as the Palestinian [00:16:13] mother who's been forced to give birth [00:16:16] in their own home without anesthetic or [00:16:18] without uh any medical uh supervision [00:16:21] because most of the um hospitals in Gaza [00:16:23] have been bombed out. And so many of the [00:16:26] claims in this video are really highly [00:16:27] questionable. I mean in what's now [00:16:30] called the 12-day war in the West, uh [00:16:32] around around 935 Iranians were killed [00:16:35] compared to 28 Israelis. So the idea [00:16:38] that Israel is really being precise with [00:16:40] its strikes while while Iran bombs [00:16:43] people indiscriminately doesn't really [00:16:45] seem to be borne out by those figures. [00:16:48] In fact, since October 2023, Israel has [00:16:50] deliberately and repeatedly struck at [00:16:53] hospitals in Palestine. The World Health [00:16:55] Organization, for example, has [00:16:57] documented uh documented 697 [00:17:01] separate Israeli strikes on medical [00:17:03] facilities. Uh 94% of Gaza's hospitals [00:17:06] have been destroyed or damaged and more [00:17:09] than,400 medical personnel in Gaza have [00:17:12] been killed since October 2023. Some of [00:17:14] them in extremely gruesome ways. For [00:17:16] example, Dr. Adnan Al- Bush, who was [00:17:19] head of orthopedics at Alshifa Hospital [00:17:21] in Gaza, was reportedly raped to death [00:17:24] by Israeli prison guards. Uh according [00:17:26] to UNICEF, more than 50,000 uh [00:17:28] Palestinian children have been killed or [00:17:30] injured since October 2023. [00:17:33] And recently we spoke to Wally Massie, [00:17:36] an American nurse uh who served in Gaza. [00:17:39] You should go back and watch that uh [00:17:41] interview that we did a few weeks ago. [00:17:43] He said to us that the IDF regularly [00:17:46] shoots boys in their genitals [00:17:49] specifically to prevent them from [00:17:51] reproducing in the future. So despite [00:17:54] this, Israel presents itself as like the [00:17:56] savior of the Palestinian people in [00:17:58] these uh videos, which is uh utterly [00:18:01] ridiculous. like you know they talk [00:18:03] about this is what real aid looks like. [00:18:05] We are on a humanitarian mission but it [00:18:07] is really a gross uh upending of the [00:18:11] facts on the ground and that's really [00:18:13] all the Israeli government has. It can't [00:18:15] fight on the the reality of facts and [00:18:19] logic. So it has to invent these worlds [00:18:20] where we are suddenly Israeli mothers uh [00:18:24] that are being targeted by Iran. But as [00:18:27] we've been intimating before, this is [00:18:29] not based in reality. This is propaganda [00:18:31] and we have to call it out for what it [00:18:33] is. [00:18:36] >> And I know we kind of briefly mentioned [00:18:38] this about how people on the ground [00:18:42] and just humanity in general are [00:18:44] standing with the people of Palestine [00:18:46] and they don't want this war with Iran, [00:18:51] whether it's Israel or an expanded war [00:18:53] um by the United States. People are [00:18:55] quite exhausted. Do you think any of [00:18:58] this propaganda is actually working on [00:19:00] anyone specific? [00:19:05] >> Uh, it's difficult to say really. I [00:19:07] mean, they're spending a lot of money, [00:19:08] so they must think they're getting some [00:19:10] kind of um [00:19:11] >> yeah, [00:19:11] >> some kind of benefit from it, right? Uh, [00:19:14] and I guess if you're what a lot of [00:19:16] Americans call low information voters, [00:19:19] it might it might have some sort of [00:19:21] effect. I mean, it's the same reason why [00:19:22] Benjamin Netanyahu goes on uh you know, [00:19:25] a couple of podcast bros uh uh podcast [00:19:28] and, you know, is gets lob softball [00:19:31] questions by them. The whole point is to [00:19:33] try to present the uh the narrative in a [00:19:37] certain way that's favorable to Israel. [00:19:39] I think much more effective, frankly, is [00:19:41] all of the western uh traditional [00:19:43] mainstream media outlets who are [00:19:45] continually uh representing this uh war [00:19:50] as they call it. It's not a war, it's a [00:19:52] genocide as something that started on [00:19:55] October 7th, 2023, and Israel is just [00:19:58] responding to that. I think is actually [00:20:00] the much more effective propaganda [00:20:01] whereby these media outlets that present [00:20:04] themselves as bastions of truth and [00:20:06] they're just calling balls and strikes [00:20:08] and they're neutral observers when they [00:20:11] frame things as uh Hamas slaughter [00:20:14] versus Israeli response. I think that [00:20:16] actually has a much bigger and deeper [00:20:18] effect on Western publics. [00:20:21] Well, and it seems like the the very uh [00:20:24] you know, more conservative or [00:20:26] right-wing base that would have normally [00:20:28] supported Israel are now turning against [00:20:31] the state of Israel. But that's not [00:20:33] stopping Israel from actually uh [00:20:36] targeting in the United States. Here, [00:20:38] MAGA supporters. A lot of MAGA [00:20:40] supporters and influencers are turning [00:20:43] against Israel. I mean, that's just a [00:20:45] fact right now. It's it's pretty wild to [00:20:47] see this whole thing go down and the [00:20:49] tension between these MAGA influencers [00:20:52] like Tucker Carlson, uh Marjorie Taylor [00:20:54] Green, uh Candace Owens, people that [00:20:58] have come out in support of Trump and [00:20:59] now like, you know, Trump's strongest [00:21:02] base is turning against Trump and [00:21:04] they're turning against the state of [00:21:05] Israel because they're realizing and [00:21:07] recognizing that support uh US support [00:21:10] for Israel is harming America and it's [00:21:13] targeting in fact the um this indigenous [00:21:18] Christian [00:21:19] population inside of Palestine, inside [00:21:21] of Lebanon, inside of Syria, they're [00:21:24] being attacked and targeted by Israel or [00:21:27] US backed forces um in those countries. [00:21:30] >> Yeah, I mean some Oh, sorry. [00:21:32] >> No, no, go ahead. But I was just going [00:21:34] to say like but now Israel is actually [00:21:36] kind of pushing back by uh funding trips [00:21:40] for young MAGA supporters to get them to [00:21:42] support Israel and use their platforms [00:21:44] to promote Israeli propaganda. [00:21:47] Can you tell us more about that? [00:21:50] >> Yeah, that's right. I mean over decades [00:21:53] some the real bastion of support for [00:21:55] Israel in the United States has not [00:21:57] actually been the Jewish community. In [00:21:59] fact, if you look at polls of American [00:22:01] Jews, the plurality of young Jews under [00:22:04] 40 consider Israel itself to be a racist [00:22:08] apartheid state. And when you look at [00:22:10] who actually voted for the Muslim [00:22:13] leftist anti- uh pro Palestine candidate [00:22:17] uh for the Democratic uh nomination for [00:22:19] mayor of New York, Sauron Mandami, you [00:22:22] look at it seems that a majority of Jews [00:22:24] in New York actually voted for him [00:22:25] rather than Cuomo or someone else. which [00:22:28] completely against what you think if you [00:22:30] were just um relying on the New York [00:22:32] Times or CNN or or whomever. The real [00:22:35] bastion of support for Israel in the [00:22:37] United States has always been [00:22:38] conservative Christians and that's [00:22:40] because in their ideology they want to [00:22:43] see the the end times being brought [00:22:45] about and that necessitates the rebirth [00:22:48] of the state of Israel. It's actually a [00:22:49] very anti-semitic position because in [00:22:52] their crazy view of what's going to [00:22:54] happen, they actually believe the [00:22:56] righteous will ascend to heaven and [00:22:58] that's them, the Christians, and [00:22:59] everyone else, including Jewish people, [00:23:01] will be sent to hell. So, they're [00:23:03] actually wishing uh for Armageddon in [00:23:06] the apocalypse specifically because they [00:23:08] want to be uh God's chosen people and [00:23:10] for the rest of them to be cast into the [00:23:13] fiery pits of uh hell. Um, as you were [00:23:16] saying though, uh, MAGA is really split [00:23:18] right now and that is why, uh, the state [00:23:21] of Israel is really trying very hard to [00:23:23] shore up those sorts of, um, uh, lines [00:23:26] of support. Uh they've recently [00:23:28] announced that 16 MAGA influencers uh [00:23:31] all young and all with hundreds of [00:23:33] thousands of followers on various social [00:23:35] media platforms are going to be brought [00:23:37] to Israel for a multi-day trip uh in the [00:23:40] coming weeks whereby they will be taught [00:23:43] about Israel's uh history and its [00:23:45] present and will be specifically taught [00:23:47] how to counter pro Palestine narratives [00:23:50] online. And the Israeli Ministry of [00:23:52] Foreign Affairs has actually set aside [00:23:54] money so that at least 500 different [00:23:57] influencer trips to Israel will be paid [00:24:00] for by the end of the year. And that's [00:24:03] not even clear if that's just single [00:24:04] influencers or it's actually groups of [00:24:06] influencers going over. So, we could be [00:24:08] seeing thousands of uh right-wing people [00:24:11] in the United States taking trips to [00:24:13] Israel and then suddenly paring um Tel [00:24:16] Aviv's uh propaganda lines. So, anyone [00:24:19] who watches uh right-wing media, just [00:24:21] watch out for that in the in the coming [00:24:23] months cuz it's coming [00:24:26] >> for sure. And I want to talk more about [00:24:28] uh what's happening inside of Google. Um [00:24:31] I'm not sure how many people would even [00:24:33] be surprised right now by the fact that [00:24:36] Google is allowing this content, this [00:24:38] kind of propaganda paid for by the state [00:24:40] of Israel um to be broadcasted on uh [00:24:44] Google and spread to the masses. But few [00:24:47] would know just how closely Google [00:24:51] materially [00:24:52] actually aids Israel in its destruction [00:24:54] of Palestine. So this brings me to your [00:24:57] next investigation which is on our [00:25:00] website called Whiz Acquisition puts [00:25:02] Israeli intelligence in charge of your [00:25:05] Google data. How is Google aiding [00:25:08] Israel? [00:25:11] Well, I mean, for a start, it's uh [00:25:13] taking huge amounts of money to accept [00:25:16] tens of millions of uh ads directed at [00:25:20] European publics promoting uh the state [00:25:23] of Israel, promoting narratives that [00:25:25] explicitly break Google's terms of [00:25:27] services. Uh I put this to them in [00:25:29] questions and multiple people at Google [00:25:31] said that they would get back to me and [00:25:33] they never did, of course. Uh Google's [00:25:36] terms of services specifically say that [00:25:38] you cannot justify violence in these [00:25:41] ads. But as we've seen, so many of these [00:25:43] ads say things like Israel needs is [00:25:45] doing what needs to be done. It's [00:25:46] protecting European publics. It's [00:25:49] completely ridiculous. And the amount of [00:25:50] people that getting targeted here, I [00:25:52] mean, the countries that are [00:25:53] specifically being targeted are the [00:25:55] United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, [00:25:57] and Greece. And I think Greece is a [00:25:59] really interesting uh test case here [00:26:03] because there are multiple uh ads on um [00:26:07] the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs [00:26:09] YouTube channel that have been up uh [00:26:11] just for a few days that are in Greek [00:26:13] only and have uh got more than 2 million [00:26:16] views a piece. Now the entire world [00:26:19] population of people who speak Greek is [00:26:21] only about 13 million people. So, we're [00:26:23] talking about something like close to [00:26:25] 20% of all Greekeaking people have been [00:26:28] hit with these ads on YouTube alone. And [00:26:31] we're not even talking about other ads [00:26:32] on Google, on WhatsApp, Telegram, [00:26:34] Instagram, etc. So this is an enormous [00:26:37] um funneling of resources towards [00:26:40] certain publics and maybe it's not [00:26:43] working because we recently saw a huge [00:26:45] uh protest by the Greek people uh [00:26:48] blocking Israeli ships from uh docking [00:26:50] and disembarking and having all these [00:26:52] Israeli tourists/ um uh refugees come [00:26:56] aboard uh come into uh Greece to you [00:26:59] know potentially cause trouble in Greek [00:27:01] eyes. So yeah, it's very interesting [00:27:04] what's going on there. But Google itself [00:27:07] has been really at the forefront of [00:27:10] helping Israel for such a long time. [00:27:12] Quite recently, as you said in your [00:27:13] question, it bought Whiz, which is a [00:27:16] cyber security firm, for $32 billion, [00:27:19] which raised a lot of eyebrows because [00:27:22] that valuation for a company that almost [00:27:25] nobody has heard of seemed outlandish. [00:27:27] is actually 65 times the yearly revenue, [00:27:30] not profit but revenue of this country [00:27:33] uh company and just the amount of tax [00:27:36] that this allcash per uh purchase of [00:27:39] whiz uh brought to the Israeli [00:27:41] government was in the billions and in [00:27:43] fact it was calculated by Israeli media [00:27:45] that this boosted the Israeli economy uh [00:27:48] its GDP by 0.6%. [00:27:51] So a lot of people who were you know [00:27:54] watching this were wondering not so [00:27:57] quietly even quite loudly they were [00:27:58] thinking is Google actually just trying [00:28:00] to shore up the Israeli wartime economy [00:28:03] which is really on its knees [00:28:05] but um few who really studied Google's [00:28:08] connections to the Israeli government [00:28:10] would be that surprised by this. I mean, [00:28:13] the CEO or sorry, former CEO Eric [00:28:15] Schmidt is known as Israel's one of as [00:28:19] one of Israel's biggest supporters [00:28:20] online and offline. Google's been [00:28:23] financially invested in Israel for [00:28:24] nearly 20 years. Uh, it opened its first [00:28:27] offices in Tel Aviv in 2006. Uh, Schmidt [00:28:30] has met with Netanyahu at least once and [00:28:33] he declared that the decision to partner [00:28:35] with Israel was the best decision Google [00:28:37] has ever made. Um, another Google [00:28:40] co-founder, Sergey Brin, has been one of [00:28:43] the most vehement and vocal supporters [00:28:45] of Israel, denouncing even the United [00:28:47] Nations as what he called a quote [00:28:49] transparently anti-semitic end quote uh [00:28:52] organization. He also said that uh he [00:28:55] told Google staff that using words like [00:28:57] genocide to describe Israeli actions in [00:29:00] Gaza is, and I'm quoting here, deeply [00:29:03] offensive to many Jewish people who have [00:29:04] suffered actual genocides. So it's very [00:29:08] clear from the top down that Google has [00:29:10] been [00:29:12] one of Israel's most critical partners [00:29:15] for many years and this purchase of ways [00:29:18] is just another chapter in this uh sorry [00:29:21] uh of whiz. Um Google has bought a lot [00:29:23] of Israeli companies uh founded by um [00:29:26] Israeli secret intelligence societ uh [00:29:29] services like unit 8200 before one of [00:29:31] them is the uh mapping app ways. This [00:29:34] cyber security company [00:29:37] whiz is a little different because this [00:29:39] really gets to the heart of our user [00:29:42] data. I mean we trust Google with so [00:29:44] much data and now so much of it is going [00:29:47] to be in the hands of a cyber security [00:29:49] firm which was founded by and is still [00:29:51] staffed by unit 8200 members which is uh [00:29:55] Israel's biggest and most controversial [00:29:57] spying group. That really raises a lot [00:30:00] of questions about whether we can trust [00:30:02] Google with our personal data or whether [00:30:04] we should be moving off their platforms [00:30:06] altogether. I mean, to me, this seems [00:30:08] like a pretty big scandal. The fact that [00:30:11] a foreign country has access to all of [00:30:14] Americans data and information, their [00:30:17] maps, their text messages. I mean, [00:30:20] everything is literally now in the hands [00:30:22] of this apartheid regime. And we saw [00:30:25] what happened in Lebanon. I mean, we can [00:30:28] talk about Google and our information, [00:30:29] but look what happened in Lebanon when [00:30:31] Israel had access to Bluetooth devices [00:30:36] um to civilians in South Lebanon. They [00:30:38] say that was targeting um Hezbollah [00:30:42] fighters, right? But Israel was able to [00:30:45] hack and get into all of these Bluetooth [00:30:48] devices [00:30:49] and injure and kill and ex, you know, [00:30:54] with these devices exploding, targeting [00:30:56] so many civilians. [00:30:58] I know that this is like we're talking [00:31:00] about data and we're talking about [00:31:01] emails, but like the fact that Israel [00:31:03] has access to people's also Bluetooth [00:31:05] devices and then also their email [00:31:08] devices, you know, email platforms. Um, [00:31:11] here in the United States, we see Israel [00:31:13] doing sabotage in foreign countries and [00:31:16] we think, "Oh, that's happening over [00:31:18] there, right? We think it's happening [00:31:20] over there." But in fact, it's happening [00:31:22] here on this microcosmic [00:31:24] level that could set us up for future [00:31:29] violence. Would you agree with that? [00:31:34] Well, what I'd say is is that we don't [00:31:36] know for sure if Israel has access to [00:31:38] all this data, but we do know that [00:31:41] companies that have been founded by [00:31:44] Israeli intelligence veterans that rem [00:31:47] uh that remain very close to the Israeli [00:31:50] government and have all sorts of [00:31:51] connections to uh the Israeli military [00:31:55] and uh the Israeli intelligence uh [00:31:57] services uh do have access to this sort [00:32:00] of data and that is that should really [00:32:03] raise the hairs on your head for anyone [00:32:05] who cares about privacy, security, [00:32:08] national security. Even having these [00:32:11] foreign having these companies of a [00:32:13] foreign nation have this amount of data [00:32:16] on us really raises a lot of significant [00:32:19] questions about what the internet is [00:32:21] used for. And frankly, I think a lot of [00:32:23] countries uh should or at least study [00:32:27] the Chinese method of having a great [00:32:29] firewall and building these uh mirrored [00:32:33] platforms, these alternative platforms [00:32:34] that are domestic and can be controlled [00:32:37] as a matter of national security. in a [00:32:39] lot of countries are starting to wake up [00:32:41] to the reality that uh Silicon Valley uh [00:32:45] companies have all sorts of connections [00:32:48] to the United States government to the [00:32:50] point where sometimes it's very hard to [00:32:51] see where one ends and the other one [00:32:54] begins. So yeah, I mean to your [00:32:56] question, this era we're living in is [00:33:00] nightmarish and dysfunctional and [00:33:03] dystopian in so many ways, but a lot of [00:33:05] people who are not paying very close [00:33:08] attention to uh what's actually going on [00:33:11] uh what's going on in terms of the [00:33:12] battle for their uh for their eyeballs, [00:33:15] the battle of uh what they want to think [00:33:17] and how to think. They don't even [00:33:19] realize this is going on. And this is [00:33:21] one of the key fights of the 21st [00:33:23] century that we've all got to be [00:33:24] involved in. [00:33:25] >> Absolutely. I mean, to me, it's it just [00:33:27] seems so obvious that's that all of this [00:33:30] is a national security threat. And [00:33:32] obviously, like, yes, it's not in the [00:33:35] hands of Israel. It's in the hands of [00:33:37] Israeli spies, but these are Israeli [00:33:39] spies that have, you know, that work for [00:33:41] the state of Israel. They say they're [00:33:43] former Israeli spies, but I don't know, [00:33:45] Alan. I think once you're a spy, you [00:33:48] will always be a spy. and you know, [00:33:50] you're you're going to be dedicated to [00:33:52] the state of Israel. And I feel like [00:33:54] this is like an infiltration um of these [00:33:56] is Israeli spies within um big tech to [00:34:01] kind of keep the US hooked on to Israel. [00:34:05] So there's there's kind of no way out of [00:34:07] this relationship because, you know, to [00:34:09] think about having these Israeli spies [00:34:12] having access to all of this data. I [00:34:15] mean, not not only could they set things [00:34:18] up for maybe violence in the future, but [00:34:21] it could also set people up for sabotage [00:34:25] using their secrets against them if they [00:34:28] were to um want to stand up to any sort [00:34:31] of like US foreign policy issue or [00:34:34] Israeli issue. I mean, we've seen this [00:34:36] in the past with like politicians where, [00:34:39] you know, what they've done in the [00:34:40] bedroom is being used against them. Um, [00:34:43] and so I don't know, that's that's where [00:34:45] my thought process goes. Um, when I [00:34:47] think about this, it really really is [00:34:49] scary to think. And then now we have the [00:34:50] rise of AI and AI is pulling um, [00:34:55] information and our data [00:34:57] from probably even within our email [00:34:59] conversations and our chat conversations [00:35:01] to learn more about us. It's it's it to [00:35:05] me it's it's frightening. Um, and so who [00:35:09] knows what the world is going to look [00:35:10] like for for our children, you know, and [00:35:14] our grandchildren, you know, I have two [00:35:16] boys, so I I think about these things [00:35:18] things often. And like when we look at [00:35:19] all of these uh big tech platforms and [00:35:23] even the use of AI, not to go off [00:35:26] subject here, um, but a lot of the [00:35:29] people that are engaged in building AI [00:35:32] and the infrastructure behind it are [00:35:34] also very pro-Israel. I mean, that's [00:35:36] just the truth. So, um, and they're tied [00:35:39] to these big tech companies. And so, [00:35:41] that really, um, and it's becoming [00:35:43] normalized within college campuses. It's [00:35:45] being normalized in our devices and our [00:35:46] emails and our WhatsApp conversations. [00:35:48] AI is like everywhere, everywhere, [00:35:49] everywhere. And so, all of these things [00:35:52] intertwined really is setting us up for [00:35:55] who knows what um, in the near future. [00:35:58] But I want to talk more about these [00:36:00] Israeli spies because these Israeli [00:36:02] spies are coming from Israel's uh most [00:36:04] elite spying military unit which is unit [00:36:08] 8200. Um they're the these people were [00:36:13] behind uh building Pegasus [00:36:16] and planting that in the devices of [00:36:18] people like Jamal Kosigible which um [00:36:21] helped Saudi Arabia [00:36:24] um basically assassinate him and kill [00:36:27] him. um and chop him up into pieces. I [00:36:29] mean, how horrific is that? I mean, talk [00:36:31] about having access to our data and [00:36:34] setting us up for some sort of violence [00:36:36] or some sort of sabotage. This is a [00:36:38] perfect example of that. And now these [00:36:41] spies within unit 8200 [00:36:44] um are working um inside Google. And [00:36:48] this is something that you've been [00:36:49] tracking. Um you've been doing uh [00:36:51] research and investigations and studies [00:36:53] for Mint Press News. We've published [00:36:55] these uh investigations on our website. [00:36:57] Of course, everybody can check them out. [00:36:59] But please do elaborate on unit 8200 [00:37:02] within big tech. [00:37:05] >> Yeah, sure. So, that's why it's so [00:37:07] worrying to see so many of these unit [00:37:09] 8200 uh alumni getting jobs in [00:37:12] prestigious uh places in big tech like [00:37:15] Google, like Tik Tok, like Facebook, [00:37:17] etc. Uh unit 8200 is really the [00:37:20] centerpiece of the Israeli surveillance [00:37:22] state. Uh it for Palestinians is really [00:37:26] just a ubiquitous force in their life. [00:37:28] Palestinians every day are watched uh by [00:37:31] facial recognition cameras which track [00:37:33] their every move. They are monitored uh [00:37:37] all the texts and messages they send, [00:37:40] all the calls they make are recorded and [00:37:42] put into gigantic unit 8200 databases. [00:37:46] In fact, we know now that Project [00:37:48] Lavender has um built gigantic databases [00:37:52] of all gazins and assigned them scores [00:37:54] of between one and 100. 100 being very [00:37:58] likely to be in Hamas and one being very [00:38:00] unlikely to be in Hamas. This includes [00:38:02] women and children. And if your number [00:38:05] that is assigned to you rises above a [00:38:08] certain level, you are automatically put [00:38:10] on a list to be targeted. And that is [00:38:12] why the onslaught against Gaza was so uh [00:38:18] so violent and so uh foolsome for weeks [00:38:22] and weeks uh because unit 8200 using AI [00:38:26] uh was able to get around this human [00:38:29] targeting bottleneck is what they called [00:38:31] it because this AI program just kept [00:38:34] feeding them tens of thousands of [00:38:36] different um targets to keep hitting day [00:38:39] after day after day and they only [00:38:41] stopped using it when the amount of [00:38:43] people in Gaza who had just been bombed [00:38:45] out of their homes and were just living [00:38:47] on the streets or in makeshift uh [00:38:50] refugee camps became so big that their [00:38:52] data suddenly uh just couldn't be used [00:38:55] anymore. Uh, unit 8200 is also behind [00:38:58] the pager attack on Lebanon, which in [00:39:01] Israel was described as a great success, [00:39:02] but was also described as uh almost [00:39:05] universally as an act of international [00:39:07] terrorism, including by Leon Panetta, [00:39:09] the former chief of the CIA, who's [00:39:11] hardly some sort of pro Palestine dove. [00:39:13] Uh, and you don't end up in uh Unit 8200 [00:39:17] by accident. It's often called Israel's [00:39:19] Harvard. Uh, it is the most elite unit [00:39:22] in the Israeli military. And parents uh [00:39:26] rich parents spend fortunes uh for their [00:39:29] teenage uh children on STEM lessons to [00:39:31] try to make it more likely that they [00:39:33] will achieve uh the scores good enough [00:39:36] to be accepted into UN800 because they [00:39:39] know that a future in Israel or even the [00:39:42] world's burgeoning tech center um will [00:39:46] await if you have this thing of unit [00:39:49] 8200 on your resume. And that's what [00:39:52] happens. Uh, big companies in Silicon [00:39:54] Valley like Google actively recruit from [00:39:57] Israel, from the Israeli military and [00:40:00] pick people out of unit 8200 to be [00:40:02] parachuted into their organizations. [00:40:04] My article, which was called revealed [00:40:07] former Israeli spies working for top [00:40:09] jobs in Google, Facebook, and Amazon, [00:40:11] found that there were at least 99 unit [00:40:14] 8200 veterans working within Google's [00:40:16] ranks. And that is very likely to be a [00:40:19] serious underestimate because under [00:40:21] Israeli law, it's actually an offense to [00:40:24] divulge that you are a part of unit [00:40:26] 8200. So it's only the people who are [00:40:27] actively flouting Israeli law by putting [00:40:30] it that on their resumes that um that I [00:40:32] was able to find. And these people, a [00:40:34] lot of them were in very politically [00:40:36] sensitive fields in uh in Google's [00:40:39] ranks. For example, Gabriel Goyel, he [00:40:42] between 2010 and 2016 became head of [00:40:45] learning. He was a commander of unit [00:40:48] 8200. And then at one point he uh left [00:40:51] unit 8200 and became the head of [00:40:52] strategy and operations for Google. So [00:40:55] he's one of the highest ranking people [00:40:57] at Google who has had this career in [00:41:00] Israeli military intelligence. And not [00:41:02] even just at the low levels where [00:41:04] everyone's a private or anything. This [00:41:05] guy is a commander who jumped ship and [00:41:07] worked at Google. Another interesting [00:41:10] example I found was uh Ben Barak. And I [00:41:12] do apologize to all of these Israelis [00:41:15] for butchering their names, but yeah, [00:41:17] until 2011, he was a cyber intelligence [00:41:20] officer where he commanded strategic [00:41:22] teams of elite forces within unit 8200. [00:41:26] Uh since 2016 though he has worked for [00:41:28] Google and between 2020 uh 2018 and 2020 [00:41:32] he was actually controversially uh sorry [00:41:34] he was concentrating on tackling what he [00:41:37] called controversial content [00:41:40] disinformation and cyber security for [00:41:42] Google. And I got to say what sort of [00:41:46] controversial content is a former [00:41:47] Israeli spy tracking for Google? We can [00:41:50] only um we can only speculate cuz Google [00:41:53] is very tight lipped about this stuff. [00:41:55] But I think perhaps we don't need to [00:41:58] have a PhD in math to put two and two [00:42:00] together here and understand that [00:42:03] something very fishy is going on. [00:42:05] Something that we all have to be looking [00:42:06] at because this affects everyone. [00:42:08] Everyone uses Google whether they like [00:42:10] it or not. This affects all of us all [00:42:13] around the world. So we should all be [00:42:15] paying attention to this. [00:42:17] >> And Alan, you don't need to apologize [00:42:19] for butchering these Israeli spies [00:42:21] names. They're literally butchering our [00:42:23] people. So, um I don't think an apology [00:42:26] is necessary necessary on that. Um we [00:42:29] just have a couple of minutes left and I [00:42:31] want to end with talking about Elon [00:42:33] Musk's uh Space X. Um because it's [00:42:36] actually related to what we're talking [00:42:38] about. Um and it's not just Google who [00:42:40] are waste deep in Israel's wars in the [00:42:42] Middle East. It's also Elon Musk's uh [00:42:45] Space X. People like to think of Musk as [00:42:47] being like this like you know outsider [00:42:49] rebellious person but in fact he's quite [00:42:52] uh close to the Israeli establishment. [00:42:54] So if we can and it relate this also [00:42:56] relates to the war against uh Iran. So [00:42:59] we just have like 3 minutes left. So can [00:43:01] you elaborate on Musk's meddling in Iran [00:43:04] that is benefiting Israel? [00:43:07] >> Well check out the article I wrote [00:43:09] Starlink Secret War. How Musk is [00:43:11] powering a covert campaign against Iran. [00:43:13] Musk obviously presents himself as this [00:43:15] outsider, but his career and his company [00:43:19] is a really birthed by the CIA. Star um [00:43:22] SpaceX itself, which uh controls [00:43:25] Starlink, wouldn't have gotten off the [00:43:26] ground without huge help from Mike [00:43:28] Griffin, who was the head of Inutel, uh [00:43:31] the CIA's venture capitalist uh wing. uh [00:43:34] Mike Griffin went to the CIA and pounded [00:43:37] his uh arm uh pounded his fist on the [00:43:39] table and said Elon Musk is the future [00:43:41] Henry Ford of the rocket industry and he [00:43:44] has held Musk's hand every inch of the [00:43:46] way throughout his uh est throughout his [00:43:50] development as a big tech entrepreneur. [00:43:53] In fact, so close to Musk is he that [00:43:55] Elon Musk named his first child Griffin [00:43:57] Musk after Mike Griffin. And he named [00:44:00] his uh that child he had which was like [00:44:02] X12 AE or whatever that was named after [00:44:04] a CIA bomber as well. And Griffin has [00:44:08] constantly pied Musk with government [00:44:10] contracts uh for years. Uh in terms of [00:44:13] Iran, uh during the what's called the [00:44:17] 12-day war, Iran tried to shut down the [00:44:20] internet and close it off for national [00:44:21] security reasons. And Musk announced [00:44:23] that he had actually managed in the past [00:44:25] couple of years to smuggle or helped [00:44:27] smuggle 20,000 Starlink uh satellite [00:44:31] internet dishes into uh Iran, which was [00:44:34] helping Iranian activists and uh Iranian [00:44:37] agents helping Western nations [00:44:39] communicate and coordinate for any sort [00:44:42] of regime change attempt on Iran. This [00:44:44] is not the first time Musk has actually [00:44:46] u uh been used in this method. He's also [00:44:51] very much helped the US war effort in [00:44:53] Ukraine as well. They say Ukrainian [00:44:55] forces can't even fire many of their [00:44:56] high-tech weapons without Starlink. So [00:44:59] Musk is absolutely at the heart of the [00:45:01] militaryindustrial complex whether he [00:45:04] likes to present himself that way or [00:45:05] not. [00:45:07] >> And we'll do another segment on Elon [00:45:09] Musk and SpaceX. We'll elaborate more. [00:45:11] Clearly uh you know on the outside when [00:45:14] we were being told like oh SpaceX is [00:45:16] helping activists on the ground um you [00:45:18] know inside of Iran it sounds like [00:45:20] really nice like cool we're helping [00:45:22] people stand up to their you know to [00:45:24] their government to their authoritarian [00:45:26] government but in reality uh the United [00:45:29] States has been engaging in sabotage in [00:45:31] inside of Iran and um you know I don't [00:45:34] think Iranians need this white savior to [00:45:37] send them satellites so they can [00:45:39] overthrow their government. That is what [00:45:41] the US and Israel want. That's part of [00:45:44] their agenda. It's been their agenda for [00:45:46] quite some time. And um it's not some [00:45:50] thing that we can look at um from a [00:45:52] positive perspective and say, "Wow, look [00:45:54] what Elon Musk is doing." Um yeah, I [00:45:58] just don't see that as anything sort of [00:46:00] positive. It just benefits uh the [00:46:02] capitalists. It benefits um the regime [00:46:05] change architects that want to see uh [00:46:08] Iran fall. Anyways, Alan, um, thank you [00:46:11] so much for joining us today. We're [00:46:13] going to continue this conversation next [00:46:14] time. Um, we'll expand more on Elon Musk [00:46:17] and perhaps talk more about this whole [00:46:18] Jeffrey Epstein scandal. I was hoping to [00:46:20] do a podcast about that, but we will do [00:46:22] it in a couple of weeks when I'm back [00:46:24] from my trip. So, thank you so much, [00:46:26] Alan. And everybody can check those [00:46:27] investigations out on our website. [00:46:31] [Music]