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[00:00:00] right, you guys. Happy Thursday. Sorry I
[00:00:02] am running late be I I was just doing so
[00:00:05] much research. I have so much to tell
[00:00:06] you all today. So, we have to jump right
[00:00:08] into this because I actually have a
[00:00:10] horror story for you. An actual real
[00:00:12] life horror story for you. Someone
[00:00:16] called me last night and told me a very
[00:00:18] strange story about what happened to her
[00:00:21] back in the '9s at an evangelical
[00:00:24] university. But first, we have to
[00:00:27] revisit Brian Harpole's story about how
[00:00:29] far in advance they typically plan
[00:00:31] security because someone has leaked to
[00:00:34] me another glaring oddity in this
[00:00:37] security protocol. Let's jump right back
[00:00:39] in. Welcome back to Candace.
[00:00:57] Do you know what I think? I think that
[00:00:59] whoever made the decision for Brian
[00:01:01] Harpole to sit down with Shawn Ryan made
[00:01:03] a terrible mistake. Big PR mistake, PR
[00:01:06] nightmare. That's kind of been the story
[00:01:09] here. One long uh bad PR decision after
[00:01:13] the next because the issue is Brian said
[00:01:17] too much. The internet is meticulous.
[00:01:19] The internet is clocking them every
[00:01:21] sentence. It's really easy to catch
[00:01:24] people in inconsistencies and then to
[00:01:26] keep replaying what they said about
[00:01:28] certain things, especially when they
[00:01:29] don't add up. So, I would like to gently
[00:01:31] remind you all back at home what Brian
[00:01:34] Harpole said about what it typical
[00:01:37] preparations entail for Charlie Kirk
[00:01:39] events. Take a listen.
[00:01:40] >> Let's move into the threat assessment
[00:01:44] and the pre-planning for the event.
[00:01:46] Absolutely.
[00:01:47] >> How many days prior were you guys there?
[00:01:49] >> We generally uh the permitting process
[00:01:52] and all that goes on behind the scenes
[00:01:54] uh and then there's a questionnaires
[00:01:56] that are filled out that we used to
[00:01:58] there was a lot of busy work and then so
[00:02:01] you know kind of like in the military
[00:02:02] what you did we create forms that hey
[00:02:05] let's get this information upfront
[00:02:07] >> and so that we uh have a duplication
[00:02:10] process so that we can confirm it. And
[00:02:12] so we started our first uh before that
[00:02:15] one um the 24th of the month prior. And
[00:02:19] so um and that was with the the hard
[00:02:22] conversations uh meetings.
[00:02:24] >> You started that on the 24th.
[00:02:26] >> Mhm.
[00:02:28] >> Right. It it and we do
[00:02:30] >> two weeks at least. No, it it started
[00:02:32] before that with the the intelligence
[00:02:35] gathering and and all that, but the hard
[00:02:38] conversations, the sharing of
[00:02:40] information, the conference calls, uh
[00:02:43] the the data sheets um and and we put
[00:02:46] that in a timeline uh on on a on a on on
[00:02:49] an app so that this all goes up and
[00:02:52] every guy that's on that job uh can see
[00:02:55] all the intel that comes in. It's a
[00:02:57] decentralized command model for the
[00:02:59] company. And so anybody can make command
[00:03:02] decisions for the betterment of the
[00:03:04] client or the team. And so everything
[00:03:06] goes on that app. And so when I get it,
[00:03:09] they get it. And when whoever's
[00:03:11] gathering that intel, it gets it.
[00:03:13] There's no hold. There's no power hold
[00:03:14] on it. And so that first uh information
[00:03:18] came in on the 24th. And then the
[00:03:20] information share starts where um we're
[00:03:23] walking through, you know, everything
[00:03:26] that you need for a detail.
[00:03:29] >> Everything that you need for a detail.
[00:03:31] Obviously, um elsewhere in the
[00:03:33] interview, he describes this
[00:03:34] conversation that he had with the chief
[00:03:36] of police. He's upset about the chief of
[00:03:38] police not covering the rooftops because
[00:03:40] he feels that his team was on it. So on
[00:03:43] it, you're coordinating with whole
[00:03:44] police departments. You're discussing
[00:03:46] drones. Drones were not allowed. And so
[00:03:48] they just had to let that go. Well,
[00:03:51] interestingly enough, I received a tip
[00:03:52] from someone that was directly involved
[00:03:55] with the planning of an event that
[00:03:57] Charlie Kirk was supposed to attend the
[00:04:00] following day on September 11th, the day
[00:04:03] after his assassination. Charlie was
[00:04:05] slated to speak in Woodland Park,
[00:04:08] Colorado, Colorado at the Charice Bible
[00:04:12] College. Okay, so that's in Woodland
[00:04:14] Park, Colorado. He was slated to speak
[00:04:16] there. And according to this person,
[00:04:18] after Charlie got assassinated, there
[00:04:19] was a bit of a panicked meeting that
[00:04:21] took place which was headed by the chief
[00:04:24] of police. They decided uh to transform
[00:04:28] this event into a vigil and they were
[00:04:31] panicked because believe it or not, they
[00:04:33] had absolutely no security plan in
[00:04:36] place. They thought how odd we don't
[00:04:38] have a security plan in place. Now we
[00:04:40] better consider this. Um, and we need to
[00:04:42] make sure that we have police officer
[00:04:44] involvement.
[00:04:46] Why didn't Dan Flood and Brian Harpole
[00:04:49] and Turning Point USA's security have
[00:04:53] any coordination with the police
[00:04:55] departments
[00:04:56] up in Colorado if this is what they
[00:04:59] normally do and you know what the way he
[00:05:01] overescribes that and they get the plan
[00:05:03] and everybody can access and start to
[00:05:05] begin to speak and then we speak to the
[00:05:07] police and we do all this stuff. We just
[00:05:10] didn't think to do that for the event
[00:05:12] that he had the next day.
[00:05:15] No police officer involvement scheduled.
[00:05:16] Nothing. Suddenly they're panicked
[00:05:18] because they realize they don't have
[00:05:20] anything scheduled.
[00:05:22] Yeah. So the police chief apparently uh
[00:05:26] decided to take measures himself to make
[00:05:28] sure that the vigil went off without a
[00:05:31] hitch.
[00:05:32] That's what I mean when you lie a lot
[00:05:34] and when you're planning things you're
[00:05:35] not supposed to be planning. You don't
[00:05:36] think through every detail. Yeah. as in
[00:05:39] the next day if you expected Charlie to
[00:05:43] make it to September 11th you would have
[00:05:46] been communicating about what he was
[00:05:49] doing um up at the Terres Bible College.
[00:05:52] Anyways, moving on to other news. I want
[00:05:55] to show you this working Excel sheet
[00:05:57] that I quickly put together today. So,
[00:05:58] it is by no means perfect, but I was
[00:06:01] telling you that throughout this
[00:06:02] investigation, I have noticed some
[00:06:04] recurring themes that have come up. I
[00:06:06] don't didn't really know what all this
[00:06:07] means. I still don't know what all of it
[00:06:09] means, but I wanted to start jotting
[00:06:11] this down and putting it together so
[00:06:12] that it looks clean and we can just add
[00:06:15] another name every time uh a name comes
[00:06:18] up in any of these categories. This
[00:06:20] isn't how you're really supposed to use
[00:06:21] Microsoft Excel, but it's how I'm using
[00:06:22] it so that it looks neat. Um, if if you
[00:06:25] just look over here at the columns,
[00:06:26] these these four themes that I'm
[00:06:27] identifying, and I'm going to add more,
[00:06:29] Liberty University, Eastern Europe,
[00:06:33] trafficking, and child sex abuse. And
[00:06:36] then in that final column, military.
[00:06:39] These are just themes that I recognize
[00:06:41] keep coming up. So Liberty University,
[00:06:42] very quickly going through this, Tyler
[00:06:44] Ber attended and he graduated. Erica
[00:06:46] Kirk attended and she graduated. Cabbat
[00:06:48] Phillips attended and he graduated.
[00:06:51] Mikey McCoy was accepted into Liberty
[00:06:53] University, but then he chose not to
[00:06:55] attend because he got the job at Turning
[00:06:57] Point USA instead and he went direct
[00:06:59] there after high school. Um, it should
[00:07:01] be noted that his father, Rob McCoy, met
[00:07:04] Charlie Kirk, via Jerry Fallout Jr., he
[00:07:07] was the president of, uh, Liberty
[00:07:09] University,
[00:07:11] uh, until there was a sex scandal,
[00:07:13] Fallout. Andrew Kovette, I'll tell you
[00:07:16] what his connection is. Andrew Kovette
[00:07:17] was working PR for the Cyros company
[00:07:20] under Johnny Moore. Johnny Moore was the
[00:07:22] lead pastor at Liberty University prior
[00:07:25] to then leaving Liberty University to
[00:07:27] start the PR firm. And Johnny Moore is
[00:07:30] an important name for those of you who
[00:07:31] watch the Tucker Carlson had interviewed
[00:07:34] someone in the military. He was speaking
[00:07:35] about what was happening in Gaza, how
[00:07:37] children were literally starving, how
[00:07:39] children were being shot at for fun.
[00:07:42] Bizarrely, they decided that Johnny
[00:07:44] Moore, Reverend Johnny Moore, is it
[00:07:46] Reverend Johnny Moore? I don't know. He
[00:07:48] was somehow equipped to lead the Gaza
[00:07:50] Humanitarian Fund, and he gets this
[00:07:52] role. Essentially, you're going to
[00:07:54] distribute your organization. you're
[00:07:56] going to be the head of distributing the
[00:07:57] food to the children of Palestine, the
[00:08:02] families of Palestine. And obviously we
[00:08:03] know how that went. IDF soldiers killing
[00:08:05] them. And so he does a lot to say, I
[00:08:08] have no idea why he got this position.
[00:08:10] It seems remarkably corrupt. Anyways, uh
[00:08:12] I wanted to let you know who that Johnny
[00:08:14] Moore was. He was just running PR. He's
[00:08:17] a PR guy like Andrew Kovette who was
[00:08:19] under him. And then Andrew Kovat leaves
[00:08:22] Chyros and decides to mint his own PR
[00:08:25] firm that's really just around Charlie
[00:08:28] Kirk really as his only client. I I
[00:08:32] believe that's his only client. Turning
[00:08:34] Point USA.
[00:08:36] Then you have the Fall Kirk Center and
[00:08:39] put that in the same category. In case
[00:08:40] you don't know this, what happened was
[00:08:43] Jerry Fwell Jr. and Charlie Kirk decided
[00:08:46] to come together to establish the Falerk
[00:08:48] Center. This was actually Turning Point
[00:08:50] USA, the precursor, Turning Point USA,
[00:08:53] right? So he meets Rob McCoy. They start
[00:08:55] discussing putting this together, the
[00:08:57] Fallerk Center, and then Jerry Fwell has
[00:09:00] this huge sex scandal. He's forced to
[00:09:02] step down. It's like this pool boy
[00:09:03] scandal. He's forced to step down from
[00:09:05] Liberty University. And now this project
[00:09:07] just they go, we can't go forward with
[00:09:09] this. This is hugely embarrassing to the
[00:09:11] university. Um this is now going to be a
[00:09:13] relic. By the way, at that time, Erica
[00:09:16] Fansby, because her and Charlie were not
[00:09:17] yet married, they were dating. She
[00:09:19] became a Falkerk fellow. They were kind
[00:09:21] of hitting the road together and and
[00:09:23] working to make the Falerk Center a
[00:09:25] thing. And so what happened after it
[00:09:27] fell apart was that they decided to
[00:09:30] instead create Turning Point Faith.
[00:09:32] That's important for you to know that
[00:09:34] this this origin in Liberty University
[00:09:36] because I'm going to tell you more in a
[00:09:37] bit. Now, regarding Eastern Europe,
[00:09:41] remember that plane that sort of
[00:09:44] mysteriously people thought it turned
[00:09:46] off its transponder? They issued a
[00:09:48] statement saying they didn't turn off
[00:09:50] their transponder. It flew uh from
[00:09:54] Provo, Utah into Arizona. And then he
[00:09:58] said, "We were just picking people up."
[00:10:00] Well, I'm putting that under because in
[00:10:02] investigating that, I determined that
[00:10:04] Oh, interesting. They were formerly
[00:10:05] registered. That plane, pardon me, was
[00:10:07] formerly registered in Romania back in
[00:10:10] 2013. Uh the tail number was then Y RNV
[00:10:15] Y. Almost looks like Navy there. Y R
[00:10:18] NVY.
[00:10:19] Um and then in 2015, so from 2013 2015,
[00:10:23] that plane was registered in Romania.
[00:10:25] Interesting. Okay. Doesn't necessarily
[00:10:28] mean anything. I'm just telling you that
[00:10:29] this is when these things have come up.
[00:10:31] Obviously, we know that Erica Kirk began
[00:10:33] the Romanian Angels project in late
[00:10:38] 2012,
[00:10:39] uh, early 2013 through to 2015. And
[00:10:43] obviously, you have seen all the Tik
[00:10:45] Toks describing the scandal. And to
[00:10:48] explain that to you, just to kind of
[00:10:50] separate uh the myth from the facts of
[00:10:54] this, I'll tell you what the facts are.
[00:10:55] facts are that Lorie France uh
[00:10:58] established the Everyday Heroes
[00:11:01] Foundation which was supposed to help
[00:11:02] children in need that was established in
[00:11:05] Arizona under Erica's mother's name
[00:11:07] Lorie Forens. Uh what they decided to do
[00:11:10] as charities do is that they developed
[00:11:12] certain projects and certain missions
[00:11:14] and what spun out from Lorie's charity
[00:11:17] was the Romanian Angels project and they
[00:11:20] got this deal uh with the military. They
[00:11:22] worked with the military in Romania to
[00:11:26] help orphans. Okay. Now, it is a fact
[00:11:30] that they worked with at that time
[00:11:34] Colonel Otto Busher. Colonel Otto Busher
[00:11:37] was then accused of running a brothel
[00:11:42] with young children uh uh taking them on
[00:11:46] to the military base uh for himself, his
[00:11:49] his sexual needs. a woman filed in in
[00:11:52] Romania and said, "This is what's
[00:11:54] actually happening. These children are
[00:11:55] going on to the base and they're being
[00:11:57] prostituted to military men." So, it was
[00:12:00] not there is no articles that say Erica
[00:12:04] Forensi or a lawyer were involved in
[00:12:05] this, but it is a fact that they were
[00:12:07] working on the Romanian project with
[00:12:09] Colonel Busher. They thanked him and
[00:12:11] then Colonel Busher gets accused of
[00:12:14] running a Romanian brothel with Romanian
[00:12:17] children. Those are the facts of that.
[00:12:20] In 2011, Tyler Ber also went to Romania
[00:12:23] to work with the Romanian government. I
[00:12:25] am still trying to determine exactly
[00:12:27] what he was doing with them. Uh I'll
[00:12:29] have more on that hopefully later. In
[00:12:32] 2013, Tyler Berer posted a photo of
[00:12:34] himself with a a Ukrainian orphan named
[00:12:37] Natalyia. uh she doesn't he says in the
[00:12:40] post or his wife says in the post
[00:12:42] current wife says in the post that she
[00:12:43] doesn't speak English Natalyia and he
[00:12:45] claims to be helping through an adoption
[00:12:48] agency program helping her because he
[00:12:51] speaks Russian I can show you that photo
[00:12:53] actually we have that photo um somewhere
[00:12:56] can we pull up that photo of that post
[00:12:58] do you have that
[00:13:00] great here we go just so you guys know
[00:13:02] we're not making this up this was posted
[00:13:04] by his wife this is Natalyia she is 12
[00:13:06] years old and she's an orphan from
[00:13:07] Ukraine She's staying with my friend
[00:13:09] Aubrey and her family for the holidays
[00:13:12] through an adoption agency program. She
[00:13:13] does not speak English, so Tyler was
[00:13:15] able to go and talk with her in Russian
[00:13:17] for over an hour tonight. She was shy at
[00:13:19] first, but by the end of the visit, she
[00:13:20] was hugging him and asked him not to
[00:13:22] leave. It was a wonderful yet
[00:13:24] heartbreaking experience,
[00:13:26] all at the same time. It makes me so
[00:13:27] grateful for all that we have. Thank you
[00:13:29] to the OBS report for letting us be a
[00:13:32] part of Natalya's stay. Okay,
[00:13:35] next we have Turning Point USA obviously
[00:13:37] working with Pastor Greg Lori despite
[00:13:40] Harvest Church being accused of
[00:13:42] trafficking children from Romania. Okay,
[00:13:45] sure. He says that's not true. That's
[00:13:47] not what we were doing. People say,
[00:13:49] "Yeah, it's exactly what you were
[00:13:50] doing." We don't know. We don't have a
[00:13:51] verdict on that because that's happening
[00:13:53] currently. Uh Andrew Kovett's brother,
[00:13:56] Curtis, is currently stationed in
[00:13:57] Romania as a lieutenant colonel. We have
[00:14:00] Tyler Ber who holds a degree in Russian
[00:14:02] studies and is fluent in Russian which
[00:14:05] is similar to Astred Tumz by the way the
[00:14:07] president of UVU. She also holds a
[00:14:10] degree in Russian studies and is fluent
[00:14:12] in Russian. And I should mention she's
[00:14:13] an orphaned child. Might be relevant,
[00:14:16] might not be relevant. Who knows? Rob
[00:14:18] McCoy know if you knew this, but he
[00:14:20] adopted a 12-year-old girl named
[00:14:22] Natalyia. She now goes by Natasha from
[00:14:25] Russia around 2006.
[00:14:29] Okay. So, I don't know. It's these these
[00:14:32] are just facts. I'm delivering the facts
[00:14:34] here. Now, regarding uh uh trafficking,
[00:14:38] sex abuse, a a N88 KG, which is now
[00:14:42] currently owned by Derek and Shellane
[00:14:44] Maxfield, they run Sapria, which is a
[00:14:48] child abuse charity. Not not, you know,
[00:14:51] they're helping children that have been
[00:14:52] abused, a sex abuse charity. And then I
[00:14:55] told you guys about Colonel Otto Busher
[00:14:57] who was accused of running a brothel
[00:14:59] with Romanian children from 2011 to 2015
[00:15:03] um at a Romanian a military base in
[00:15:06] Romania I should say not a Romanian
[00:15:08] military base an American military base
[00:15:10] in Romania and yes he worked with
[00:15:13] Romanian angels during that time period.
[00:15:17] uh civilian commander
[00:15:20] uh sorry uh stationed at Fort Wuka, a
[00:15:22] civilian commander that was stationed at
[00:15:23] Fort Wuka, David Fraudam, uh was charged
[00:15:28] with running a child sex abuse ring.
[00:15:31] That is true. TPUSA Faith works with
[00:15:34] Pastor Greg Lori. As I told you, they
[00:15:36] are currently embroiled in a trafficking
[00:15:38] scandal. George Zinn was arrested and
[00:15:41] then it was determined that he had
[00:15:42] pornographic images, that's our decoy
[00:15:44] boy, of children on his phone. And as I
[00:15:48] told you, he told people at the hospital
[00:15:50] that he was treated at that he would be
[00:15:53] paid if he did this. Now, he didn't know
[00:15:55] where the money was coming from, but all
[00:15:57] he had to do was jump up and down and
[00:15:58] say, "It was me. It was me."
[00:16:00] Andrew Pascadelo. You might remember
[00:16:02] that uh name because early on pictures
[00:16:05] were circulating of him and people
[00:16:07] thought that he could have been the
[00:16:08] shooter because he was wearing uh the
[00:16:10] suit and and he actually and people
[00:16:12] thought he maybe had a weapon in his
[00:16:14] bag. Ended up being that he was
[00:16:16] photographing that he was taking
[00:16:17] pictures. He was a photographer not
[00:16:19] hired by Turning Point USA. Uh but he
[00:16:23] has rang the alarm before on military
[00:16:27] Ukrainian sex trafficking that is
[00:16:29] happening in the United States. If you
[00:16:31] go through his Instagram, he has said
[00:16:33] this is what's happening currently. They
[00:16:34] are trafficking children from Ukraine
[00:16:36] and he did some investigation into that.
[00:16:39] So that came up when I was looking into
[00:16:41] him early on. Obviously I've covered
[00:16:44] extensively Cavalry Chapel C Chapel
[00:16:46] Church riddled with pastor abuse
[00:16:49] stories. I mean, it's it's a thing.
[00:16:52] Okay. Uh and then obviously we know Rob
[00:16:54] McCoy was trying to rehabilitate
[00:16:56] somebody who actually went to prison.
[00:16:59] He said he found the Lord and decided to
[00:17:01] put him in into homes with children via
[00:17:03] Calvary Chapel. There's a lot of
[00:17:05] rehabilitating people who have an issue
[00:17:08] with abusing children. I would say at
[00:17:10] the Calvary Chapel church, it's
[00:17:13] problematic. And I'm putting Glenn Beck
[00:17:15] and Tim Ballard's operation underground
[00:17:18] here. Actually, I knew I learned about
[00:17:20] Operation Underground. That was
[00:17:21] introduced to me by Marissa Strait over
[00:17:23] at Prageru. She asked me to interview
[00:17:26] Tim Ballard before he had to step down
[00:17:28] from the charity, which was a child
[00:17:32] trafficking chair, a charity dedicated
[00:17:34] uh to rescuing children from being
[00:17:37] trafficked in war torn areas. Uh Glenn
[00:17:41] Beck was the initial investment as the
[00:17:42] story was told to me when I was at
[00:17:44] Prageru when I interviewed him.
[00:17:45] Obviously, we know Glenn Beck has
[00:17:46] interviewed Erica Kirk. We know that uh
[00:17:49] Glenn Beck also his children were there
[00:17:51] um at UVU when Charlie Crick was
[00:17:53] assassinated. He was one of the first
[00:17:55] people to speak out about that on the
[00:17:57] news on September 10th. And Tim
[00:18:00] Ballard's name strangely came up when we
[00:18:03] were looking into Phil Lyman and we
[00:18:05] learned that he paid Tim Ballard a visit
[00:18:09] in the days following the assassination
[00:18:13] which was just Tim Ballard's name coming
[00:18:14] up which is interesting to me because I
[00:18:17] was like oh he runs also a child
[00:18:19] trafficking charis that just a lot of
[00:18:21] that happening and also I should mention
[00:18:22] Derek and Shellane Maxelfield who run
[00:18:26] this abuse charity in their profile saw
[00:18:29] pictures, they were wearing an Operation
[00:18:30] Underground shirt. So, people are very
[00:18:33] passionate, I I would say, about
[00:18:37] trafficking and putting together
[00:18:39] organizations to stop trafficking in
[00:18:41] this story. Now, in terms of our
[00:18:44] military connection, it is extensive.
[00:18:46] Like I said, this is by no means a
[00:18:47] definitive list. I put this together
[00:18:49] today. Andrew Kovette's brother and
[00:18:51] cousin are captains in the military.
[00:18:53] Curtis Kovvat and Robert Kovat. Rob
[00:18:55] McCoy's father, Roy Edgar McCoy, ran
[00:18:57] psychological operations for naval
[00:18:59] intelligence to shape public perception.
[00:19:02] His son, Danny McCoy, is currently in
[00:19:04] the military. Um, and yeah, he had a
[00:19:08] whole naval fleet named after him
[00:19:10] actually. So, top top dog, top dog. We
[00:19:14] obviously know Erica Kirk has been open
[00:19:16] about the fact that her mother and her
[00:19:18] father have do defense related military
[00:19:22] work. why she moved to Arizona in the
[00:19:25] first place because they had contracts
[00:19:27] with the DoD and we know that her father
[00:19:30] has worked with Rathon. The Farnsworth
[00:19:33] family has extensive military
[00:19:35] connections. I will add more about that
[00:19:37] later and we will cover that later
[00:19:38] because the Farnsworth Farm Farnsworth
[00:19:40] family in general uh is important to the
[00:19:42] story. Dr. Frank Turk was a naval flight
[00:19:47] officer for eight years. His son, Frank
[00:19:48] Turk III, is a deputy officer, deputy
[00:19:51] division chief, pardon me, at the Joint
[00:19:53] Chief of Staffs in DC. His other son,
[00:19:56] Spencer, is an Air Force vet. He was on
[00:19:59] the phone with, I think he said, both of
[00:20:01] his sons, facetiming with both of his
[00:20:03] sons. Correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe
[00:20:04] it's one of his sons. he was facetiming
[00:20:06] with the Hades military plane, which we
[00:20:09] haven't discussed too much, but I
[00:20:11] promise we will get there uh
[00:20:12] inexplicably flew uh this route around
[00:20:16] UVU on the day of the assassination just
[00:20:18] before and just after, which is
[00:20:21] interesting because that plane in
[00:20:23] particular has a lot to do with drones.
[00:20:26] Again, we'll get more into that in a
[00:20:27] future episode. And then, of course, the
[00:20:29] doctors. Dr. Lee Troder did his
[00:20:32] residency on an Air Force base and he
[00:20:34] also has his pilot's license. The Utah
[00:20:36] medical examiner Dr. Dedra Amaro is a
[00:20:39] major at Butch Hibbs. We have Jack
[00:20:41] Hibbs. Their father Butch senior
[00:20:43] military background and I suspect Butch
[00:20:45] Hibbs also perhaps is involved in the
[00:20:48] military himself. We are looking for
[00:20:51] something a bit more concrete on that.
[00:20:54] Now, I wanted to present that to you
[00:20:56] because I want to focus um on building
[00:21:00] that so you can see these themes
[00:21:03] recurring. But today, we're going to
[00:21:04] talk more about Liberty University
[00:21:07] because I received a very interesting
[00:21:10] set of tips about Liberty University.
[00:21:12] Particularly yesterday, I was contacted
[00:21:14] by someone. Well, actually, I should say
[00:21:16] I spoke to someone yesterday. I was
[00:21:18] contacted by them many times via email
[00:21:21] pleading for me to call. She was
[00:21:22] pleading for me to call her. It wasn't
[00:21:24] really clear to me as to why there
[00:21:26] seemed to be a panic. She was seemingly
[00:21:29] triggered by a video regarding Trump
[00:21:32] pageantry. Okay. The video in question
[00:21:35] is not controversial and she has no
[00:21:37] connection to the person in the video,
[00:21:39] which was Erica Kirk simply discussing
[00:21:41] how she got involved with with the Trump
[00:21:43] pageant world. Hence why I was not
[00:21:45] exactly seeing the big picture. She
[00:21:47] doesn't know Erica. She had nothing to
[00:21:48] say about how Erica knew Trump
[00:21:50] pageantss. her speaking about it was
[00:21:52] triggering for her. Anyways, after a lot
[00:21:55] of um back forth, I decided to just call
[00:21:57] her. I had some time yesterday to see
[00:22:00] why Trump pageantry in general was so
[00:22:02] triggering to her and she began to tell
[00:22:05] me a story that was quite unbelievable
[00:22:08] at first until I did some research. This
[00:22:11] woman whose identity I am going to
[00:22:13] protect at this moment was a young
[00:22:16] teenager in the '9s and she had landed
[00:22:18] herself in a bit of trouble. She wound
[00:22:21] up um with a probation officer and she
[00:22:25] also got pregnant and they essentially
[00:22:27] told her, "Hey, you know, you're either
[00:22:29] going to get your life together, sort of
[00:22:31] this ultimatum. We could send you to
[00:22:32] Juvie or you could go away and
[00:22:37] we'll give you an opportunity here.
[00:22:38] There's this amazing new program that's
[00:22:40] being run out of Liberty University
[00:22:42] which helps troubled teens, which you
[00:22:45] are a troubled teen." She was 13 at this
[00:22:47] time. So obviously they made the
[00:22:50] decision for her to take the option.
[00:22:52] It's like when the judge says, "Hey, you
[00:22:53] can go to rehab or you can go to
[00:22:55] prison." Obviously uh I'm going to go to
[00:22:57] rehab. So she chose to uh go down to
[00:23:00] Lynchber, Virginia while she was
[00:23:02] pregnant to live in a house with other
[00:23:04] troubled girls who were being helped
[00:23:07] through a program that was known as the
[00:23:09] God Parent Program. It still is a thing
[00:23:12] today. Effectively, they help these
[00:23:15] young women on uh who are struggling
[00:23:17] with various other things, but
[00:23:19] particularly with her and the women that
[00:23:21] she was sharing rooms with their
[00:23:23] pregnancy journey. And they offer to
[00:23:27] help place their children into adoptive
[00:23:31] Christian homes should they choose not
[00:23:35] to keep their children. Sounds nice
[00:23:38] enough. that seems like, you know, the
[00:23:40] Christian spirit, pro-life, and uh don't
[00:23:43] have an abortion. Instead, uh we can
[00:23:46] have a home for your child to be raised
[00:23:48] in. But things got pretty weird after
[00:23:51] that. And I want you to listen to what
[00:23:53] she told me in this conversation, which
[00:23:55] I recorded. And yes, I have her
[00:23:57] permission to share this conversation.
[00:23:59] I'm sorry uh if this sounds um you know,
[00:24:02] not too clear. We tried to make it as
[00:24:04] clear as possible. And uh yeah, let's
[00:24:07] just roll it. It's going to be quite
[00:24:08] long, but it's very important. Take a
[00:24:10] listen.
[00:24:12] >> When I got to the Liberty Godparent
[00:24:13] Home, which is what took me in in 90
[00:24:17] like 94, um they used to lock in our
[00:24:21] lock us in our room 24 hours a day. We
[00:24:24] had we were locked in our room. We
[00:24:27] weren't allowed visitors.
[00:24:29] We weren't allowed people at our home. I
[00:24:32] didn't have no visitors cuz I didn't
[00:24:33] have my family there, of course. And I'm
[00:24:36] shaking and I didn't have no family
[00:24:39] there, so I didn't have nobody.
[00:24:43] They used to take weird pictures of us.
[00:24:46] >> How old were you?
[00:24:48] >> I'm sorry. Go ahead.
[00:24:49] >> How old were you?
[00:24:51] >> Uh, I was I had to be 13, 14.
[00:24:54] >> Okay. And who who took pictures?
[00:24:56] >> 79.
[00:24:57] >> Who took pictures of you?
[00:24:59] >> Uh, f senior. Senior. And then
[00:25:05] his face looked familiar, but he looked
[00:25:08] older now. And you're talking 30 years
[00:25:10] ago, you know.
[00:25:12] >> But like Jerry Fwell, Senior was the one
[00:25:15] actually taking the photos.
[00:25:17] >> Yeah. They um I remember him and his
[00:25:20] wife there. But another thing weird
[00:25:22] about it is I never thought about like
[00:25:25] what happened the night and the night
[00:25:29] the morning I delivered my baby.
[00:25:31] Everything was weird. And I think about
[00:25:33] it now, it's all weird to me. But then
[00:25:36] it wasn't because I was only 13, 14
[00:25:38] years old,
[00:25:39] >> right?
[00:25:39] >> I made I made mistakes. I mean, I
[00:25:42] totally turned my life around. I had
[00:25:43] four kids now with two grandb babies,
[00:25:46] but
[00:25:48] you know, I
[00:25:51] >> I I want I want to go back to So, what
[00:25:53] was weird about that night that you gave
[00:25:54] birth?
[00:25:56] >> Oh gosh. The the night before. Okay. So,
[00:25:59] they have a mother, a house, a living
[00:26:02] mother 24 hours. I called there like a
[00:26:06] month and a half ago,
[00:26:07] >> two months ago. This is what's weird. I
[00:26:09] called there right after I prayed. I
[00:26:11] called there because this video of Erica
[00:26:14] came up with Trump and you have to get
[00:26:17] invited and I was like, how in the world
[00:26:19] did I get invited?
[00:26:21] and and and to this day I still don't
[00:26:23] know how in the world I got invited to
[00:26:25] that and what pictures they had of me.
[00:26:28] >> Interesting if I'm not mistaken again.
[00:26:30] >> Okay.
[00:26:32] >> Um
[00:26:34] >> Okay. So, you had the baby and what was
[00:26:35] weird about that night?
[00:26:37] >> Okay. The night before they Okay. Like I
[00:26:40] said, they have house mothers and and I
[00:26:42] I can't remember details, but I remember
[00:26:45] them doing, you know, putting the probe
[00:26:46] on, listening the heartbeat pretty much
[00:26:48] and looking at, you know, doing
[00:26:50] ultrasound.
[00:26:51] >> Mhm.
[00:26:51] >> Okay. To this day, I've had, you know,
[00:26:55] four other kids, plenty of ultrasound.
[00:26:56] So, I know what they were doing was
[00:26:58] funny to me because it everything was
[00:27:02] fine that night. And then they moved me,
[00:27:05] which was weird. They moved me to
[00:27:07] another room by myself.
[00:27:10] >> Okay.
[00:27:11] >> At that time, I had had another girl
[00:27:13] with me. There's all these girl,
[00:27:15] different girls there, and some of them
[00:27:17] don't even speak English. Okay.
[00:27:19] >> How how old are um
[00:27:21] uh sorry, how how many girls live in
[00:27:23] that house?
[00:27:25] Um, back then there was about like
[00:27:27] between 12 and 15 of one house, but
[00:27:31] you're talking anywhere from age 12 to
[00:27:33] like 21 years old, you know.
[00:27:36] >> Mhm.
[00:27:37] >> Um, I think at that time I was the
[00:27:40] youngest, but
[00:27:44] >> some of them didn't speak English.
[00:27:46] >> Yeah. Um, there was a couple girls, you
[00:27:48] know, they didn't speak English, but we
[00:27:50] weren't allowed to. That's another
[00:27:51] thing. We weren't allowed to like talk
[00:27:53] to the other girls.
[00:27:55] We were only allowed like certain girls
[00:27:57] were on one one certain side of the
[00:27:59] hallway, certain girls were on the other
[00:28:01] certain side of the hallway. Back then
[00:28:04] we had to either call collect or use
[00:28:06] quarters.
[00:28:07] >> Okay.
[00:28:09] >> Um on a pay phone, you know,
[00:28:11] >> they didn't they didn't allow us to use
[00:28:13] the regular phones.
[00:28:15] >> Mhm. They treated us like slaves, but
[00:28:18] the next morning
[00:28:20] it's like they knew something was going
[00:28:22] to happen to my baby or something
[00:28:24] because the next morning I all of a
[00:28:26] sudden didn't have an heartbeat and I
[00:28:28] had to go in. But the strange thing
[00:28:30] about it is their daughter, this is
[00:28:32] another thing I thought about, their
[00:28:34] daughter is a high uh doctor at the
[00:28:38] Liberty or at some university,
[00:28:41] some um hospital in Lynchburg, Virginia.
[00:28:45] >> Okay.
[00:28:46] >> And back then, if I remember correctly,
[00:28:49] their daughter was like one of the house
[00:28:51] mothers.
[00:28:52] >> Okay. And I'm wondering if their
[00:28:55] daughter was like my nurse or
[00:28:59] >> Yeah.
[00:28:59] >> nurse lady.
[00:29:01] >> He gave me something to miscarried
[00:29:03] because see the thing is is they co
[00:29:06] coerced us to give up the baby because
[00:29:09] they got money for the adoption. It was
[00:29:11] some kind of adoption ring. I didn't
[00:29:13] know nothing about it.
[00:29:14] >> But my thing was is that I kept telling
[00:29:17] him no. I wanted to keep my baby because
[00:29:20] I had a three-year-old nephew and I had
[00:29:22] took care of him. I thought I could
[00:29:23] mother and
[00:29:25] >> it was it wasn't for me. Okay.
[00:29:28] >> I was like I was too young.
[00:29:30] >> Okay.
[00:29:31] >> But
[00:29:33] still I have questions because now I
[00:29:35] keep seeing stuff and I'm like why are
[00:29:37] these all these videos coming up on my
[00:29:40] feeds for no reason, you know.
[00:29:42] >> Can I ask you a question? Um Sure.
[00:29:44] >> Did you are you saying that you
[00:29:46] miscarried the baby?
[00:29:47] >> Yeah. Um,
[00:29:49] >> but I was further along and they kept
[00:29:51] telling me I had to hurry up and make up
[00:29:52] my mind and make up my decision because
[00:29:55] um um I'm running out of time. I have to
[00:29:58] hurry it up. And I'm like, why do I have
[00:30:00] to hurry it up?
[00:30:01] >> Hurry what up? Hurry what up?
[00:30:04] >> Decide if I want to adopt the baby out.
[00:30:06] They kept showing me folders of people's
[00:30:08] faces. Would you like your baby to be
[00:30:11] with this person or would you like to go
[00:30:13] raise your baby somewhere else or on the
[00:30:16] street or Okay. And then here's a
[00:30:19] question for you. How far along were you
[00:30:23] >> when when you miscarried?
[00:30:26] >> You know, I was asking my mom that and
[00:30:28] truthfully I have called down there to
[00:30:30] find myself to find dates out and I
[00:30:32] can't even find myself actually in their
[00:30:34] system. That's another thing that's
[00:30:36] weird.
[00:30:36] >> That's very
[00:30:38] >> I've called down there this past few
[00:30:40] weeks just to find out information on
[00:30:42] myself. I even called my own probation
[00:30:45] officer, which he called me back last
[00:30:47] night. He was actually telling me
[00:30:50] information and he told me, you know,
[00:30:53] back then I wasn't a bad kid. I just
[00:30:55] skipped school because I stayed home and
[00:30:58] stuffed and
[00:30:59] >> my mom got in trouble for I went Jewey
[00:31:01] for. I'm sorry.
[00:31:04] Um,
[00:31:06] >> wait, but just I just want to stick to
[00:31:07] the story of the Let's just stay
[00:31:09] focused.
[00:31:11] >> The You don't know how pregnant you were
[00:31:13] when you had a miscarriage?
[00:31:15] >> Um,
[00:31:17] well, I can tell you I was probably
[00:31:20] Well, I had they had to induce the
[00:31:22] labor.
[00:31:22] >> Okay.
[00:31:23] >> They I had to deliver. So, if that tells
[00:31:26] you I was over three, four months.
[00:31:28] >> Yeah.
[00:31:29] >> I was over.
[00:31:32] So, let me tell you what is really
[00:31:34] interesting about this particular
[00:31:36] conversation. Um, well, Liberty
[00:31:39] University is involved and you hear she
[00:31:43] broke down crying several times
[00:31:44] throughout the conversation, there was
[00:31:45] obviously real pain there. And what's
[00:31:48] really interesting is that she told me
[00:31:49] thereafter that while she can pull all
[00:31:51] of her court records, Liberty University
[00:31:54] is sort of like, you know, it's all
[00:31:56] electronic now. You're talking about the
[00:31:57] '9s. We can't find you. We can't find
[00:31:59] you. We had you had a baby in a house
[00:32:02] when you were 13 years old and we can't
[00:32:04] find you. By the way, where's the baby
[00:32:06] buried? I asked that question to her.
[00:32:09] And she said, "What happened after she
[00:32:10] gave birth was they told her they called
[00:32:12] her mom and they said that she's got to
[00:32:13] go?" I said, "How do you know the baby
[00:32:14] was dead? You're telling me they moved
[00:32:16] you into a room and they induced labor
[00:32:20] after you said, "I don't want to give up
[00:32:22] my child." They induced labor. They told
[00:32:24] you a child that yourself that there was
[00:32:26] no heartbeat mysteriously right after
[00:32:28] you made the decision that you didn't
[00:32:29] want to um uh give up your child for
[00:32:33] adoption. You felt like you were being
[00:32:34] pressured. Now there's no heartbeat.
[00:32:36] They induce uh labor. You never see your
[00:32:40] son. That she said she had a son. She
[00:32:41] never saw anything. They tell your mom
[00:32:44] she's going to pick you up ASAP. That's
[00:32:46] what she goes on to tell me because they
[00:32:48] didn't want the other young women to be
[00:32:51] traumatized learning that she had a
[00:32:52] miscarriage. So, in the middle of the
[00:32:54] night, her mom drives up and uh gets
[00:32:57] her, picks her up,
[00:33:00] funeral. Is there a headstone? Some What
[00:33:02] happens uh when there's a induced labor
[00:33:07] at Liberty University? This is this is
[00:33:10] unbelievable. Now, why she was triggered
[00:33:14] when she heard Erica speaking about
[00:33:16] Trump pageantry to connect that dot for
[00:33:18] you is because Erica had said, you know,
[00:33:22] you have to submit your pictures. Well,
[00:33:24] she goes back home. She's still a
[00:33:25] teenager and two years later, she gets
[00:33:28] an invite to join Trump Pageant World,
[00:33:32] but she doesn't know how they got her
[00:33:33] picture. She doesn't know how they got
[00:33:35] her picture. She wasn't taking pictures.
[00:33:36] She wasn't trying to be in pageant
[00:33:37] world. And so, that's what triggered her
[00:33:39] and went, "Wait a second. How did they
[00:33:40] get my picture? Why were they taking
[00:33:42] these weird pictures? She never said
[00:33:44] that they were they were sexual. By the
[00:33:45] way, I'm sure they probably said to her
[00:33:47] at the time at that house like so that
[00:33:49] we can submit your picture to the
[00:33:52] Christian adopted families, whatever it
[00:33:53] is. But it sort of clicked to her that
[00:33:55] that's kind of odd that I got this
[00:33:56] invitation to join Trump pageant world.
[00:33:59] Now, for those of you who have followed
[00:34:00] our Epstein series,
[00:34:03] we spoke about this. Xavier Bousard
[00:34:05] showed that this was one of his
[00:34:06] mechanisms. Jeffrey Epstein, Israel's
[00:34:09] guy, would go find organizations where
[00:34:11] there were tons of young women that were
[00:34:13] coming through and he would pump money
[00:34:16] into them like Victoria's Secret
[00:34:18] and maybe some trafficking happened,
[00:34:20] right? By the way, the history of
[00:34:22] pageantry, for those of you that don't
[00:34:24] know, it's child sex trafficking. It's
[00:34:26] the carnese. It's PT Barnuman Bailey in
[00:34:29] America. What was going on at carnivals,
[00:34:31] historically speaking, it was very dark
[00:34:33] stuff. Very dark stuff. Anyways, in case
[00:34:36] you aren't believing the story because
[00:34:38] we know what happens next, they they do
[00:34:39] the Mitch Snow thing. Oh, she's crazy.
[00:34:42] She's making this up. It's all an
[00:34:44] illusion. Well, the good thing is that
[00:34:47] there's actually an entire podcast
[00:34:49] series that is currently investigating
[00:34:51] this God parent program at Liberty
[00:34:53] Liberty University. And these women have
[00:34:56] done incredible work. So much work that
[00:34:59] it actually got picked up locally in
[00:35:01] Virginia by ABC News. Take a listen.
[00:35:05] The Liberty Godparent Home, a place for
[00:35:07] young single pregnant women, is
[00:35:09] defending itself against allegations of
[00:35:11] coercion and manipulation.
[00:35:13] >> A new podcast called Liberty Lost,
[00:35:16] alleges some of the young women felt
[00:35:18] pressured to place their children for
[00:35:20] adoption. ABC 13's Rachel bring
[00:35:22] investigates.
[00:35:25] >> The Liberty Godparent Home is tucked
[00:35:27] away on Liberty Mountain Drive.
[00:35:30] The maternity home was founded by Jerry
[00:35:32] Fwell senior in the 80s as part of a
[00:35:35] pro-life ministry at Thomas Road Baptist
[00:35:38] Church.
[00:35:40] Now it's the focal point of the podcast
[00:35:42] Liberty Lost. What inspired you to
[00:35:46] investigate this in the first place? For
[00:35:48] the last two years, I've been
[00:35:50] investigating the maternity home after
[00:35:52] connecting with several residents who
[00:35:55] went through the home um as pregnant
[00:35:57] teenage girls both in the 1990s and in
[00:36:00] 2008.
[00:36:01] >> One of those residents, Abby Johnson. At
[00:36:04] 16, she got pregnant.
[00:36:06] >> Finding out I was pregnant was traumatic
[00:36:08] and shocking and not something I had any
[00:36:11] preparation for mentally, socially,
[00:36:13] emotionally. Her parents sent her across
[00:36:15] the country to Liberty Godparent Home
[00:36:17] with the promise of a scholarship to
[00:36:19] Liberty University after all was said
[00:36:21] and done.
[00:36:22] >> I really can't describe the sense of
[00:36:24] abandonment and fear and disassociation
[00:36:27] that you experience when your family
[00:36:29] abandons you, all the while calling it
[00:36:31] something like good for you and like
[00:36:34] this is a plan.
[00:36:35] >> Johnson says she wanted to keep her son.
[00:36:37] However, she felt the home already made
[00:36:39] the decision to go the adoption route.
[00:36:42] Did you ever really feel like you had a
[00:36:44] choice?
[00:36:46] >> No. I felt that I was put in really
[00:36:51] terrifying moments of being given an
[00:36:53] opportunity to explain to an adult that
[00:36:56] had a different opinion how I thought I
[00:36:58] could pull it off. The God Parent Home
[00:37:00] declined my request for an interview,
[00:37:02] but sent a statement saying in part,
[00:37:04] quote, "Our staff and volunteers work
[00:37:06] tirelessly in this ministry and have
[00:37:08] built a reputation of being a trusted
[00:37:10] voice and ministry resource in the
[00:37:12] community. They have treated every
[00:37:14] individual who has sought assistance
[00:37:15] with compassion and integrity." Did you
[00:37:18] feel supported in any way by the people
[00:37:22] within the home?
[00:37:23] >> No, I felt endlessly put off. Raphael
[00:37:26] says in theory, maternity homes are a
[00:37:29] good thing.
[00:37:29] >> These women should have been supported
[00:37:31] and provided with real options to keep
[00:37:34] and parent their children if that's what
[00:37:36] they wanted to do.
[00:37:37] >> But she says the God Parent Home
[00:37:38] shouldn't have ties to an adoption
[00:37:40] agency. According to city records, the
[00:37:42] Godarent Home and the Family Life
[00:37:44] Services adoption agency share an
[00:37:46] address. Thomas Road Baptist Church
[00:37:48] founded Family Life Services. According
[00:37:50] to their website,
[00:37:54] I reached out to them multiple times for
[00:37:56] comment about the allegations in the
[00:37:58] podcast.
[00:37:58] >> We just want to make sure we're sharing
[00:38:00] all sides of this story, but I haven't
[00:38:02] heard back.
[00:38:03] >> Johnson and Raphael say for them,
[00:38:05] speaking out is the path forward.
[00:38:08] >> Help people um feel like they have a
[00:38:10] voice, that they're not forgotten.
[00:38:13] >> I also reached out to the Godparent
[00:38:15] Home. I asked if they can put me in
[00:38:17] contact with residents who have had a
[00:38:18] positive experience in the home, but at
[00:38:21] this point I haven't gotten a response.
[00:38:22] Back to you.
[00:38:25] >> I would imagine that I would respond to
[00:38:27] that and I'd say, "Yeah, tons of people
[00:38:28] had a positive experience." And again,
[00:38:30] the woman that I spoke to, you can see
[00:38:32] uh she was there when it was Jerry
[00:38:33] Fwell, senior, who we're going to speak
[00:38:35] about um in a little bit because I'm
[00:38:37] going to connect even more dots for you.
[00:38:40] You know what I want to say is we all
[00:38:42] felt for some reason spiritually sick
[00:38:45] watching Amefest, right? Tim Dylan did
[00:38:49] such a good job of saying this feels
[00:38:51] like something else. Like they just keep
[00:38:54] saying that this is about God and this
[00:38:57] is about the Lord and this is about
[00:39:00] almost like they were trying to turn
[00:39:01] Charlie into a messianic figure. And yet
[00:39:05] we felt darkness there. We felt
[00:39:07] darkness. We felt like this was actually
[00:39:08] about money. We felt like we were being
[00:39:10] deluded. We felt like it was a Las Vegas
[00:39:13] convention. And I had been speaking
[00:39:16] throughout the last year, even before
[00:39:18] Charlie Kirk got assassinated. I
[00:39:19] dedicate a lot of time this podcast to
[00:39:21] speaking to you about this veneer of
[00:39:24] Christianity,
[00:39:26] Operation Mocking Pastor. We termed we
[00:39:28] termed it. And we really start saw them
[00:39:31] start to ratchet that up after Charlie
[00:39:33] Kirk's assassination. These influencers,
[00:39:36] well, this is this is the Lord. This is
[00:39:38] what the Lord would want. Yeah, we're
[00:39:41] going to talk more about that and uh I'm
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[00:41:40] So, back to Liberty University. Now, I
[00:41:43] have been signaling to you guys, like I
[00:41:44] said, that there is something very wrong
[00:41:46] with these mega churches in America.
[00:41:49] There's very wrong with almost what I
[00:41:51] would term Christian Inc., these
[00:41:54] Christian influencers. Suddenly, they
[00:41:56] look like they're glitching a bit,
[00:41:57] right? Something happened in the last
[00:41:59] year and we're like, "Oh, I used to kind
[00:42:01] of like you and now you seem to be
[00:42:03] glitching inside of this matrix. You're
[00:42:05] telling us it's right here in the Bible.
[00:42:08] You seem overly invested in certain
[00:42:10] narratives. Suddenly, this is being to
[00:42:11] feel like, well, a psychological
[00:42:14] operation that's being orchestrated by
[00:42:16] Israel because you sort of missed it. If
[00:42:18] your whole brand is Christianity, but
[00:42:19] you decided to stay mum on the atro
[00:42:22] atrocities that Israel is committing in
[00:42:23] Gaza, this probably isn't really about
[00:42:25] Christianity, is it?" The Bible's pretty
[00:42:27] clear. Uh, thou shalt not kill children
[00:42:31] especially. I, if I could, if I could
[00:42:33] offer an addendum, children, especially,
[00:42:36] innocent souls, and yet they're
[00:42:38] remarkably mum on the issue of Charlie
[00:42:40] Kirk, uh, they had more eyeire for
[00:42:43] Candace Owens investigating it than they
[00:42:46] did for the FBI. No interest. Shut it
[00:42:48] down. Right. Shut it down. How dare you
[00:42:51] say he's Catholic? That's what's wrong
[00:42:53] with this. You saying anything about
[00:42:55] Catholicism is wrong? Glitch. Glitch.
[00:42:59] Oh, Josh Hammer's lying. Let me tell
[00:43:00] you, he's a wonderful human being.
[00:43:01] Glitch. Glitch. I'm sorry. Lying.
[00:43:04] Shouldn't you just be able to call a
[00:43:06] spade a spade? No, they can't because
[00:43:08] they represent something else. Now, I
[00:43:09] want to be clear. I have spoken at
[00:43:10] Liberty University multiple times. And I
[00:43:12] promise you, I never thought once to
[00:43:15] look up their origin story. I was just
[00:43:17] so excited that there was a Christian
[00:43:20] university in general and they were
[00:43:22] remarkable to me when I spoke there and
[00:43:25] I I wasn't looking I guess for anything
[00:43:27] deeper. I didn't see how I was also
[00:43:30] being manipulated in various ways early
[00:43:32] on in my political career. So color me
[00:43:35] surprised to learn that Liberty
[00:43:36] University was once failing and then it
[00:43:40] received a ton of funding. Honestly, the
[00:43:41] story of how it came to be the
[00:43:43] university that it is today is quite
[00:43:45] interesting. Someone emailed me and they
[00:43:47] wrote and I quote, "Hi Candace, I'm
[00:43:50] currently reading The Israel Lobby by
[00:43:52] John Mirshimer." And in the book, it
[00:43:54] talks about how the Israeli government
[00:43:57] gave Jerry Fwell,
[00:44:00] Liberty University's founder, Jerry
[00:44:01] Fwell, Senior, a $2 million jet in 1979.
[00:44:06] Adjusted for inflation, that's like $10
[00:44:08] million. And that was to gain support
[00:44:10] from evangelicals in America. I figured
[00:44:12] it would be helpful for your deep dive
[00:44:15] of Israel buying evangelicals. End
[00:44:17] quote. Oh, that's interesting. That tip
[00:44:19] does seem like something I should
[00:44:21] explore. Probably is helpful.
[00:44:24] And it's true. Jerry Fwell, Senior, I
[00:44:27] should tell you, had a rather radical
[00:44:30] conversion to Christianity when Israel
[00:44:33] became a nation 1948.
[00:44:36] Now, prior to that, this is according to
[00:44:38] the Washington Post, he came from a
[00:44:40] family that definitely had some issues.
[00:44:42] His daddy, a man named Carrie Hezekiah,
[00:44:46] was a drunk and he was a bootleger.
[00:44:49] Okay, he was a bootleger and he was a
[00:44:51] drunk. And he got into a fight with his
[00:44:54] brother once, uh, this is literally his
[00:44:57] brother. His name was Garland. And he
[00:44:59] shot him dead. And to be even clearer
[00:45:02] here, his dad wasn't just a bootleger.
[00:45:04] Carrie wasn't just a bootleger. He was
[00:45:05] also a smuggler and a trafficker. Okay,
[00:45:08] so he pretended like he was just a
[00:45:10] business owner that was running a string
[00:45:11] of gas stations ostensibly, but in
[00:45:13] reality he was using his fuel trucks to
[00:45:16] smuggle bootleg whiskey into America
[00:45:18] during the time of prohibition. It's
[00:45:21] giving trogno liquors. You know, as we
[00:45:23] started getting into season two of
[00:45:25] Becoming Breit, I'm like, wow, a lot of
[00:45:26] people were smuggling things into
[00:45:28] America. Anyways, I keep telling you
[00:45:32] guys that the people that rule over us,
[00:45:34] the people that have these huge
[00:45:36] platforms, they are not smarter than us,
[00:45:38] they're just more corrupt than us. They
[00:45:41] will do anything to maintain their
[00:45:42] power. Um, and they really are the heirs
[00:45:46] of gangsters.
[00:45:48] Back to Carrie, after he shot his
[00:45:50] brother dead, he became a rather nasty
[00:45:52] alcoholic. his employee one time, this
[00:45:56] is a true story as documented uh by
[00:45:59] Rolling Stone, his employee stayed home
[00:46:01] sick one day, so Fwell got mad and he
[00:46:03] decided to catch the man's cat that he
[00:46:06] loved and he killed the cat and then he
[00:46:09] cooked the cat and then he delivered the
[00:46:12] remains of the cat to the employees
[00:46:14] house for lunch.
[00:46:17] Yeah, that's why I went with the
[00:46:19] thumbnail title, Don't F with Cats,
[00:46:20] because now we have to find Charlie
[00:46:22] Kirk's murderer. For those of you who
[00:46:24] watched that series, now according to
[00:46:27] Forbes, he also once threw a man into a
[00:46:30] bear cage after he had an argument with
[00:46:32] him at one of his restaurants. So, yeah,
[00:46:34] he had a colorful background indeed.
[00:46:37] Like I said, these people are gangsters.
[00:46:39] But in 1948, the very year that Israel
[00:46:42] became a nation, Carrie Hezekiah died
[00:46:44] from cerosis of the liver and his son
[00:46:47] Jerry Fwell senior had an immediate
[00:46:50] radical conversion to Christianity,
[00:46:52] bootlegging, trafficking, smuggling, be
[00:46:54] damned because his business was now
[00:46:56] going to be the church ministering. He
[00:46:58] became a televangelist and he
[00:47:00] established Lynchberg College in 1971,
[00:47:04] which would eventually change its name
[00:47:06] to Liberty University, Liberty
[00:47:08] University that we know today. And yes,
[00:47:10] it is true. In 1979, Jerry Fwell senior
[00:47:13] was gifted a leerjet from the founder of
[00:47:15] the lood party, then prime minister of
[00:47:18] Israel, Metakim Bean. Now, that's pretty
[00:47:23] nice of Israel,
[00:47:25] but I always am wondering in exchange
[00:47:27] for what? Like, in exchange for what?
[00:47:30] Because that kind of reminds me about
[00:47:32] how BBNet and Yahoo wanted to take
[00:47:34] Turning Point to the Turning Point USA
[00:47:37] to the next level. offered to take
[00:47:38] Turning Point USA to the next level.
[00:47:39] Charlie Kirk said no. But apparently
[00:47:42] nobody in the mainstream media is
[00:47:44] interested in answering the question as
[00:47:47] to why he wanted to take turning point
[00:47:49] to the US to USA to the next level. What
[00:47:51] does Israel have to do with young
[00:47:53] evangelicals, a young evangelical
[00:47:56] organization?
[00:47:57] Also, how that's my other big question.
[00:48:00] How exactly was he planning to get that
[00:48:01] money into Turning Point USA? I'm
[00:48:03] assuming he wasn't going to write like a
[00:48:04] blank check from the LUD party. Surely
[00:48:08] uh he was going to accomplish accomplish
[00:48:10] that through other people and their
[00:48:12] organizations because Israel never gets
[00:48:15] their hands dirty if they can avoid it.
[00:48:17] That's the lesson of yesterday by the
[00:48:18] way. You employ Christians to do your
[00:48:20] dirty work.
[00:48:22] And I got another clue from a different
[00:48:24] email tip that I received regarding
[00:48:26] Liberty University. It reads, "Hi,
[00:48:28] Candace. I have some links that might be
[00:48:30] important for you in your investigation
[00:48:33] regarding connections between the Iran
[00:48:36] Contra scandal and Liberty University.
[00:48:39] Now, to remind you, the Iran Contra
[00:48:41] scandal was a a trafficking scandal that
[00:48:43] involved our government, the CIA, of
[00:48:46] course, the MSAD. Jeffrey Epstein was
[00:48:48] involved in the Iran Contra scandal. If
[00:48:50] the MSAD is to be believed, that's how
[00:48:53] they first brought him in. running
[00:48:54] weapons through South America. Uh, and
[00:48:58] the CIA and the MSAD got caught
[00:49:01] involving they were trying to control
[00:49:02] what was happening in South America and
[00:49:05] uh, yeah, they were arming people to
[00:49:08] take over countries. That's kind of what
[00:49:10] our CIA does. Anyways, the reason how
[00:49:13] this involves Liberty University is that
[00:49:15] during the Iran Contra scandal, as the
[00:49:17] email goes on, a man named Sun Young
[00:49:20] Moon, a North Korean evangelical cult
[00:49:24] leader, assisted the CIA in its
[00:49:28] so-called anti-communist efforts, that's
[00:49:31] how they build what they were act what
[00:49:33] they were doing during the Iran Contra
[00:49:34] scandal in Central America. He used his
[00:49:37] logistics network through the churches
[00:49:39] to aid the contras through his
[00:49:42] unification church. He connected and
[00:49:45] their connected organizations like CASA
[00:49:48] and he also ran PR for the Reagan
[00:49:50] administration regarding US's
[00:49:52] involvement in Central America through
[00:49:55] his newspaper the Washington Times.
[00:49:58] Okay. So what's important is that this
[00:50:00] Sun Young Moon later would bail
[00:50:04] University Liberty University out. The
[00:50:06] person in the email said roughly the
[00:50:08] amount was 20 to40 million in the mid
[00:50:10] 1990s. Now, I find it extremely
[00:50:13] interesting. I mean, sorry, this person
[00:50:15] wrote to me. I find it extremely
[00:50:16] interesting that the same evangelical
[00:50:18] cult leader who worked with federal
[00:50:20] agencies and profited from the Iran
[00:50:24] Contra scandal also financially rescued
[00:50:26] Liberty University and how Liberty
[00:50:28] University might be connected to the
[00:50:31] drug smuggling military base. He's
[00:50:32] referring to Fort Wuka. That was uh the
[00:50:35] reason he sent the email discussing Fort
[00:50:36] Wuka. Interesting indeed, I would say
[00:50:39] because got a story about the feds
[00:50:41] smuggling Christianity, Israel, South
[00:50:45] Korea. Uh, did all that actually happen?
[00:50:48] Yeah, that it did actually happen. And
[00:50:50] the Washington Post did a fantastic
[00:50:52] article breaking down what became known
[00:50:54] as the Moon Cult in an article that they
[00:50:56] published in 1997 as that cult uh was
[00:51:01] beginning to fade or I guess their their
[00:51:03] power was beginning to fade here in
[00:51:05] America. And it's stunning because if
[00:51:07] you close your eyes and imagine, you
[00:51:09] start to see Turning Point USA and
[00:51:12] Turning Point USA faith. Everything that
[00:51:14] I've been describing, I kept saying from
[00:51:15] the very beginning, what went wrong in
[00:51:17] that Turning Point USA was this faith
[00:51:20] push. I've been telling you, I'm going
[00:51:23] to show you that these Egyptian planes,
[00:51:24] I've showed you in part, we're tracking
[00:51:25] Turning Point USA faith. These pastors,
[00:51:28] okay, what's going on with these quote
[00:51:31] unquote Egyptian planes that happen to
[00:51:33] look like they're going into Gaza?
[00:51:34] actually.
[00:51:36] So, I'm going to read you parts of this
[00:51:37] article regarding the Reverend Sun Moon,
[00:51:41] his unification church. Uh, he declared
[00:51:44] himself just, you know, a messiah. So,
[00:51:46] when we start to see how it feels like
[00:51:47] they were trying to establish Charlie as
[00:51:49] a messianic figure and it's all become
[00:51:52] somehow about money. They don't actually
[00:51:54] care about Charlie. It's like, how much
[00:51:55] money can we make? We're going to put
[00:51:57] the tent up. We're going to make it
[00:51:59] people just here's the bloody mic. We're
[00:52:02] putting it in a thing. It feels like I
[00:52:04] said a seance want you to imagine that
[00:52:06] as I tell you about what Sunmoon's
[00:52:09] unification church estab accomplished in
[00:52:11] America rather and yes attached to the
[00:52:14] Iran Contra affair and Israel and
[00:52:16] pumping money into Liberty University.
[00:52:18] Okay. Now it tells us that their
[00:52:20] unification church fault was faltering
[00:52:22] as a religion in the United States but
[00:52:24] it still remains a robust diverse
[00:52:25] business. Again, this is 1997,
[00:52:27] especially in the Washington area where
[00:52:30] the movement controls more than 300
[00:52:32] million in commercial, political, and
[00:52:35] cultural enterprises.
[00:52:37] It tells us that the organizations owned
[00:52:39] or sponsored by Moon and his inner
[00:52:42] circle of Korean and American followers
[00:52:45] holds properties stretching from Prince
[00:52:47] George to Fairfax County. According to
[00:52:50] corporate property and court records,
[00:52:52] this vast and bewildering multinational
[00:52:55] could be called Moon Inc. It is a
[00:52:57] sprawling collection of churches,
[00:53:00] nonprofit foundations, and forprofit
[00:53:02] holding companies.
[00:53:04] In the Washington area, the Unification
[00:53:07] Church's investment is an important cog
[00:53:09] in a global machine that Moon uses to
[00:53:12] boost his credibility, spread his
[00:53:14] spiritual doctrine, and win political
[00:53:16] influence. According to current and
[00:53:18] former church members, as the
[00:53:20] unification movement evolved from
[00:53:22] selling roses on street corners to
[00:53:24] acquiring control of a nationwide cable
[00:53:26] channel, the nation's capital became the
[00:53:29] epicenter of Moon's US holdings. Those
[00:53:32] include the Washington Times,
[00:53:37] Washington Times newspaper, a video
[00:53:39] production firm, a stately old church
[00:53:42] once the pride of the Mormons along 16th
[00:53:44] Street Northwest. Washington area
[00:53:47] property owned by the church. Its
[00:53:48] affiliated companies or senior church
[00:53:50] officials is worth more than $200
[00:53:52] million according to property and
[00:53:55] corporate records. A lot of property I
[00:53:56] was telling you Turning Point's getting
[00:53:58] into real estate. It's very interesting.
[00:54:00] They're getting into real estate
[00:54:02] according to a tip that I have because
[00:54:03] they're going to teach young
[00:54:04] conservatives how to buy houses. I'm
[00:54:07] sure Tyler Boyer leading the charge.
[00:54:11] Washington will be the focus of the
[00:54:13] worldwide unification movement this week
[00:54:16] as moon sponsored organizations are
[00:54:18] going to hold a series of academic
[00:54:20] conferences and the world sports and
[00:54:22] culture festival culminating Saturday
[00:54:25] with a mass wedding at RFK Stadium.
[00:54:28] The South Korean self-declared messiah
[00:54:30] has grown increasingly vehement within
[00:54:33] the unification movement. Moon's
[00:54:35] spiritual and business ventures are
[00:54:37] viewed as a part of a unified whole.
[00:54:40] Quote, "Ideas without the money to back
[00:54:42] them up are just dreams." End quote.
[00:54:45] Said Richard Rubenstein, the president
[00:54:47] of the movement controlled University of
[00:54:49] Bridgeport. The corporate section is
[00:54:51] understood to be the engine that funds
[00:54:54] the mission of the church. I am telling
[00:54:56] you this is like almost verbatim. If you
[00:54:59] were to read statements about Turning
[00:55:00] Point USA and their spin-offs, we need
[00:55:02] the money to do the work. This is what
[00:55:04] we're going to this going to be the
[00:55:05] 501c3, the 501c4, and Turning Point
[00:55:08] Action. and this is where it's all going
[00:55:09] to come together.
[00:55:11] Goes on to tell us that since the 1970s,
[00:55:13] Moon has gained his highest profile in
[00:55:16] this country, not with his church, but
[00:55:17] with the Times, the 100,000 circulation
[00:55:21] daily that competes with the Washington
[00:55:22] Post. But the paper has become an
[00:55:25] established voice of conservative
[00:55:27] America. Beyond the times, moon
[00:55:28] affiliated entities are linked by a
[00:55:31] complex web of interlocking
[00:55:33] directorships and nurtured by a
[00:55:35] seemingly endless flow of cash from the
[00:55:38] far east
[00:55:40] that has enabled them to buy new
[00:55:42] businesses and even helped to bail out
[00:55:45] Reverend Jerry Fwell's founding Liberty
[00:55:48] University. Again, this is 1997.
[00:55:51] Executives of unification related
[00:55:53] entities have acknowledged that money
[00:55:55] from Japan and Korea are fueling their
[00:55:59] US operations.
[00:56:01] But the magnitude and the mechanism of
[00:56:02] those payments as well as their exact
[00:56:04] sources have eluded investigators on
[00:56:07] three continents over the past three
[00:56:09] decades. Let me slow that down for you.
[00:56:11] So, you're telling me we have a
[00:56:13] faithbased organization with a political
[00:56:16] arm um that is stretched into
[00:56:18] evangelical churches that's working with
[00:56:22] um Israel and helping the CIA uh traffic
[00:56:26] arms at one point through churches and
[00:56:29] the presence of their church. And now
[00:56:31] you're telling me that when they started
[00:56:32] looking into where this money was coming
[00:56:34] from, it's actually eluding them how the
[00:56:37] money is coming from Japan and Korea.
[00:56:39] And wasn't that Charlie's last trip? It
[00:56:41] was Harley. He went to Korea. We're
[00:56:43] going to get to that. And then after he
[00:56:44] went to Korea and met with a pastor,
[00:56:46] that pastor got arrested again. We're
[00:56:48] going to get to that. And then after he
[00:56:49] went to Korea, he went to Japan.
[00:56:52] I'm just saying the past is is feeling
[00:56:54] like it's a bit prologue. Why was
[00:56:57] Charlie going to a buildup? What does
[00:56:58] Charlie Kirk have to do with Korea?
[00:57:02] Turning point faith pushing you into
[00:57:04] Korea. A lot going on in South Korea, by
[00:57:05] the way. Like, lol. When I saw this
[00:57:07] article about how they suddenly
[00:57:10] established a Holocaust museum, I was
[00:57:12] like, "There goes the neighborhood."
[00:57:13] What was Do we have that article? Yeah.
[00:57:15] South Korean Christian Zionists opened
[00:57:17] the country's first Holocaust museum. I
[00:57:21] should add that to my timeline because
[00:57:22] there goes the neighborhood. We're
[00:57:25] coming. You can't question anything.
[00:57:27] We're going to call you Hitler. Sorry,
[00:57:29] South Korea. You're so cooked. Okay.
[00:57:32] Anyways, jumping back into this into
[00:57:34] this article before I show you what
[00:57:35] happened when Charlie went to Korea and
[00:57:37] a pastor then got arrested. Um,
[00:57:40] it it tells us that uh Moon Inc., sorry,
[00:57:44] let me flip this wrong side.
[00:57:47] Moon's businesses Moon's businesses
[00:57:49] exist for several purposes. Church
[00:57:51] leaders and critics agree. To employ
[00:57:53] members, to gain influence in industries
[00:57:55] that Moon considers crucial, and to
[00:57:58] support Moon's spiritual and political
[00:58:00] agenda. Sometimes that support is direct
[00:58:03] as when Moon's nonprofit organizations
[00:58:05] contribute to conservative political and
[00:58:07] social causes with financial donations,
[00:58:10] staff, and publicity. And sometimes it's
[00:58:12] indirect as when Moon sponsored groups
[00:58:15] stage academic, religious, and cultural
[00:58:17] conferences, inviting professors,
[00:58:19] clergy, media executives, and other
[00:58:22] opinion shapers to meetings. All
[00:58:24] expenses paid. Oh, that reminds me of
[00:58:26] Turning Point USA Faith. I told you they
[00:58:28] were embarking on this pastor summit.
[00:58:29] They were going to bring all of these
[00:58:30] Christians influencers training. They
[00:58:34] had a pastor summit led by um Rob McCoy
[00:58:36] as I showed you that Sean Foy. They were
[00:58:38] going to lead this up pumping in money.
[00:58:40] This is what was growing turning point
[00:58:42] faith which was spun out of Liberty
[00:58:44] University. So this feels especially
[00:58:46] relevant.
[00:58:48] It goes on to say that they'll have a
[00:58:49] conference on the essence of religious
[00:58:51] founders. Uh this is a guy who was an
[00:58:54] exatholic priest. His name was
[00:58:56] Borderland. Uh he says quote they'll
[00:58:59] have a conference on the essence of
[00:59:00] religious founders like Buddha Jesus and
[00:59:04] then Moon gets a room full of academics
[00:59:06] to sit there. He gets his picture taken
[00:59:09] with them. He gets credibility. They get
[00:59:11] to have their conference. It's all very
[00:59:12] messy. End quote. Borderland like many
[00:59:15] people who have received some of Moon's
[00:59:17] generous bounty has never been able to
[00:59:19] figure out the blizzard of organizations
[00:59:22] that make up Moon Inc.
[00:59:25] He says, quote, "My money is never from
[00:59:27] the church itself. It's always the
[00:59:29] international something or another." Uh,
[00:59:33] that's interesting because when we
[00:59:35] started looking into Operation Mocking
[00:59:36] Pastored, we had that lead that it was
[00:59:38] coming from one of these fellowship
[00:59:41] international fellowships or whatever. I
[00:59:43] ICJF, I don't remember what it was.
[00:59:45] Point is is like there's all these
[00:59:47] international fellowship of Christians
[00:59:50] and Jews and they're pumping money with
[00:59:52] an explicit purpose. In fact, you'll be
[00:59:54] very proud to know that when I worked at
[00:59:56] the Daily Wire, they used to bring me
[00:59:58] companies like Ad Reads and they brought
[01:00:00] me the International Fellowship of
[01:00:02] Christian and Jews to read ads for. And
[01:00:04] so I said to my producer at the time, I
[01:00:05] said, "Well, what is this actually?
[01:00:07] Let's pull it up." Okay? Because I was
[01:00:09] allowed to decline an ad read if I had a
[01:00:10] moral um if if I if I felt like I was
[01:00:14] morally averse to it. And so I looked
[01:00:16] pulled up the website and it was
[01:00:18] basically here's what you Christians can
[01:00:19] do for Jews. And I said, "This doesn't
[01:00:21] feel like a fellowship." So, no, I'm a
[01:00:24] Christian. I'm going to get to work. We
[01:00:26] have tons of issues. They're not telling
[01:00:28] saying what they're going to do in the
[01:00:29] Congo, um, or how they're going to help
[01:00:32] with what's going on all around the
[01:00:33] world, Armenia. So, why would I just
[01:00:34] like read ads for it? There's something
[01:00:36] going on with that organization, by the
[01:00:37] way. They've got their hands in a lot.
[01:00:39] Anyways, that's how they were doing
[01:00:40] this. They were paying this guy, but it
[01:00:42] wasn't actually coming from Moon, uh,
[01:00:46] Moon's Church. It was coming from
[01:00:47] International Something or another.
[01:00:49] That's how you hide the money. and goes
[01:00:51] on to read on one corridor, the
[01:00:53] international international coalition
[01:00:55] for religious freedom, the group that
[01:00:56] Borderland said signs his checks these
[01:00:58] days shares a suite with the martial
[01:01:01] arts federation for world peace and a
[01:01:04] company called Washington Times
[01:01:05] Aviation. The only person in the suite
[01:01:08] on a recent visit was a Korean man who
[01:01:10] spoke little English saying, "I am
[01:01:13] Martial Arts Federation. I work for
[01:01:15] Father."
[01:01:18] Okay.
[01:01:22] Then tells us that Moon's Washington
[01:01:24] enterprises range from a ballet academy
[01:01:26] to an architectural molding company to
[01:01:29] magazines.
[01:01:31] They said, quote, "The idea was that
[01:01:32] we'd be like Disney, controlling all
[01:01:34] kinds of media, working on behalf of
[01:01:37] God, always. Always."
[01:01:41] Pquette, whose job gave him access to
[01:01:44] financial information about several
[01:01:46] church related businesses, said he
[01:01:47] believed that virtually none of the uni
[01:01:50] unification's US operations is
[01:01:52] profitable. You have all these
[01:01:53] businesses and none of them are
[01:01:54] profitable. Where's the money coming
[01:01:55] from? How's that work actually? And
[01:01:58] isn't it starting to sound like the
[01:01:59] seven mountain mandate? These pastors,
[01:02:01] we got to have an interest and
[01:02:02] culturally here and there. We've got to
[01:02:04] be everywhere. And Turning Point's going
[01:02:06] to help us get there. It's very
[01:02:08] interesting. What where is the money
[01:02:10] coming from and where is it going was
[01:02:12] one of Charlie Kirk's last questions
[01:02:14] before he was assassinated. He
[01:02:15] established Doge to determine that
[01:02:17] answer.
[01:02:19] They decided to investigate Moon
[01:02:20] organization in 1978. In 1978,
[01:02:23] congressional investigation into the
[01:02:24] Moon organization concluded that quote,
[01:02:27] "The Unification Church and numerous
[01:02:29] other religious and secular
[01:02:30] organizations headed by SunMoon
[01:02:33] constitute essentially one international
[01:02:37] organization that moved money freely
[01:02:39] among its entities."
[01:02:44] SEC filings show that the cash uh for
[01:02:47] Nostalgia, that's one of their
[01:02:49] companies, comes through a chain of
[01:02:51] companies that lead to the Unification
[01:02:54] Church International. It's a vertically
[01:02:55] integrated operation that is common in
[01:02:58] Moon's Empire. Goes on to tell us, this
[01:03:01] is my favorite quotation
[01:03:04] because it's it's just so megaurch
[01:03:06] vibes. like, you know, you find $300,000
[01:03:08] behind um a sink or a toilet.
[01:03:13] Tells us, quote, "Rev Moon sent bags of
[01:03:16] cash, big fat bags, stacks and stacks of
[01:03:19] hundreds from Korea and Japan to
[01:03:22] Manhattan Center, the church's recording
[01:03:25] studio in New York City." Pquette said,
[01:03:27] "Whenever we asked where that money was
[01:03:29] coming from, the answer was that it came
[01:03:31] from the father."
[01:03:33] Okay,
[01:03:35] I think we're we're good on that. I'm
[01:03:37] sure it did. The wealth of unification's
[01:03:39] worldwide economic empire remains a
[01:03:42] closely guarded secret. Lawrence Zilios,
[01:03:45] a private investigator who has studied
[01:03:46] the church for more than a decade, has
[01:03:48] concluded from church documents that the
[01:03:50] Unification Church International, the
[01:03:52] main holding company for Moon's US
[01:03:54] businesses, exceeded $500 million in the
[01:03:59] mid 1980s.
[01:04:00] Man, who took Moon, Inc. to the next
[01:04:03] level.
[01:04:05] But the church's wealth has always been
[01:04:06] centered in Asia. A detailed analysis by
[01:04:10] the Far Eastern Economic Review in 1990
[01:04:13] valued the church's land holdings in
[01:04:15] South Korea alone at more than 1
[01:04:17] billion. In recent years, though,
[01:04:19] several of the Korean companies have
[01:04:21] lost money, causing business experts
[01:04:23] there to wonder, like their counterparts
[01:04:25] in America, where the money comes from.
[01:04:29] Charlie Kirk, where is the money coming
[01:04:31] from and where is it going to? Charlie
[01:04:33] Kirk is in Korea. He's in Japan and he's
[01:04:35] being told that he's there for reasons
[01:04:37] that have to do with the Christian faith
[01:04:38] being suppressed. And I don't think
[01:04:40] that's why they had him there. To be
[01:04:42] honest with you, I don't think that's
[01:04:43] why they pushed for Charlie to go to
[01:04:45] Korea and to Tokyo.
[01:04:49] The long-standing explanation as to
[01:04:50] where the money comes from, uh, where
[01:04:53] the money was going to, it is Japan, not
[01:04:56] Korea, that provides the bulk of the
[01:04:58] church's wealth. as much as 70% church
[01:05:01] observers estimate. They can't get to
[01:05:03] the bottom of that. They don't know.
[01:05:04] They don't know the answer to that. Yet,
[01:05:07] despite years of such legal and
[01:05:09] financial troubles, the unification
[01:05:11] movement continues to pump hundreds of
[01:05:13] millions of dollars into existing
[01:05:15] businesses and new ventures all around
[01:05:16] the world. It's just a bottomless pit of
[01:05:18] money. Nobody knows where it's coming
[01:05:20] from. According to business analysts and
[01:05:22] academics who study the church,
[01:05:25] Moon's most ambitious feray into the
[01:05:28] political process in recent years was
[01:05:30] the American Freedom Coalition, a
[01:05:32] conservative group that built popular
[01:05:34] support for Colonel Oliver L. North
[01:05:38] during the Iran Contra probe. In
[01:05:41] addition to about $5 million,
[01:05:44] unificationists provided the personnel
[01:05:46] that gave the coalition its grass
[01:05:48] grassroots strength. former church
[01:05:50] member said, "Ah, yes, of course, we got
[01:05:53] to build got to be able to help the
[01:05:54] colonels, got to have a military angle
[01:05:56] here." And so that has been their most
[01:05:58] ambitious building something that
[01:06:01] actually helped the Iran Contra
[01:06:06] people that were implicated tells us
[01:06:08] also in 1995, the women's federation
[01:06:10] made another donation. That's one of the
[01:06:12] another arm of this church. A donation
[01:06:14] that illustrates how Moon supports his
[01:06:16] fellow conservatives. gave $3.5 million
[01:06:19] grant to the Christian Heritage
[01:06:20] Foundation, which later brought a
[01:06:22] portion of Liberty University's debt,
[01:06:25] rescuing Reverend Jerry Fwell, uh,
[01:06:27] Fwell's Lynchburg, Virginia Religious
[01:06:29] School, from the brink of bankruptcy.
[01:06:32] Post has learned of more recent and
[01:06:34] direct financial support from Moon to
[01:06:36] Fwell. Last year, New World
[01:06:38] Communications, which is a parent
[01:06:40] company of the money losing Washington
[01:06:43] Times, lent $400,000 into Liberty at a
[01:06:47] 6% interest according to the promisary
[01:06:50] note. So, the point of all of this is
[01:06:51] that to get money, it's it's a web, it's
[01:06:55] a financial web, uh that took one
[01:06:58] investigator 10 years to still not
[01:07:01] figure out how all of this money is
[01:07:03] happening. And that's what it feels
[01:07:04] like. Turning Point USA has become a
[01:07:06] very complex financial web where money
[01:07:09] is coming in and money is going out and
[01:07:10] every dollar is being spent and money is
[01:07:12] going back to certain people and there
[01:07:13] are kickbacks and it feels like very
[01:07:17] sophisticated money laundering. When I
[01:07:20] read what happened with Moon Inc. and I
[01:07:23] compare it to what seems to be happening
[01:07:26] at Turning Point USA, it feels like the
[01:07:29] company grew bigger than Charlie Kirk
[01:07:31] and then they were ready to go to the
[01:07:32] next level. Like maybe they were were
[01:07:34] presented with an opportunity to become
[01:07:36] Moon Inc. and maybe Charlie said no,
[01:07:41] maybe.
[01:07:43] Anyways, back to Korea. Yeah, Charlie's
[01:07:45] last trip. He went to go meet with a
[01:07:49] pastor and Charlie, the way it was
[01:07:51] pitched to Charlie was that they were
[01:07:53] suffering. Christians are suffering in
[01:07:55] Korea because they want to get engaged
[01:07:56] into politics and like, you know,
[01:07:58] Christians want to vote what Christians
[01:08:00] are concerned about. But again, I don't
[01:08:03] think that's why the McCoys were pushing
[01:08:05] for Charlie to go to Korea because, you
[01:08:08] know, they just got a Holocaust museum.
[01:08:10] And I don't think much Holocaust stuff
[01:08:12] happened in Korea. Feels like maybe
[01:08:14] Korea's getting infiltrated like America
[01:08:16] got infiltrated. I mean, you can guess
[01:08:17] how many how extensive the infiltration
[01:08:19] is by guessing how how extensive the
[01:08:22] Holocaust education is is what I would
[01:08:24] say. That's kind of the lesson that I'm
[01:08:26] looking back and I'm going, it's kind of
[01:08:27] weird we didn't learn about this school.
[01:08:29] We had to learn about that.
[01:08:31] Yeah, they you have to establish
[01:08:33] yourself as the ultimate victims before
[01:08:36] you do the ultimate oppressing vibes. I
[01:08:39] don't know. Anyways, I'll I'll let you
[01:08:41] read about or I rather see this is the
[01:08:43] headline from the Korean Herald. How
[01:08:45] pro- Union pastor was arrested for
[01:08:47] breaking election law. He was arrested
[01:08:49] on September 9th. Now, to remind you,
[01:08:51] Charlie um was there on the 4th and the
[01:08:55] 5th for the Buildup Korea conference.
[01:08:57] So, days later, he got arrested. And the
[01:08:59] rhetoric that he was using is
[01:09:01] interesting. It's very interesting. Uh,
[01:09:04] take a look at this news clip.
[01:09:09] And sorry, Skyler.
[01:09:10] >> Turning overseas, we've been following
[01:09:12] the case of South Korean pastor Yun
[01:09:14] Bosan. His imprisonment has raised
[01:09:16] concerns about religious freedom in
[01:09:18] South Korea. The case recently gained
[01:09:21] more attention when his son Chance spoke
[01:09:23] in Arizona at Turning Point USA's
[01:09:25] Amfest. Asia correspondent Lucille Tusen
[01:09:28] spoke with him following that appearance
[01:09:31] >> where he spoke about his father's case.
[01:09:34] Pastor Hun Boson remains jailed in South
[01:09:37] Korea on election law charges and has
[01:09:41] drawn attention from the Korean
[01:09:43] administration for his stance on
[01:09:45] biblical truths. So firstly, I would
[01:09:48] like to thank CBN News for covering my
[01:09:50] father's news when it was mostly needed.
[01:09:53] And that's when I believe a lot of
[01:09:56] Christians in the states especially
[01:09:58] starting to pick up my father's story. I
[01:10:00] think this is a great opportunity for
[01:10:03] Americans themselves to be able to uh
[01:10:06] realize what's at stake and what we are
[01:10:09] to do as brothers and sisters in Christ.
[01:10:12] As a show of support, the organization
[01:10:15] Advocates for Faith and Freedom has
[01:10:17] launched a petition for a fair legal
[01:10:20] process in Pastor Son's case. Support
[01:10:23] from Americans is also growing. That
[01:10:26] includes the late Charlie Kirk who met
[01:10:28] Pastor Son in Soul at a conference. My
[01:10:31] father was able to share what's
[01:10:33] happening in Korea recently especially
[01:10:36] to the Christian leaders including
[01:10:37] himself and also his poss the
[01:10:40] possibility that my father would get uh
[01:10:43] could get arrested and um in fact my
[01:10:47] father got arrested two days after he
[01:10:49] met Charlie. Charlie made sure that he
[01:10:52] will use his platform and his voice to
[01:10:55] let the whole world and America know
[01:10:58] that this is happening in South Korea
[01:11:00] and this was important for him because
[01:11:05] it was an example what would happen if
[01:11:07] we don't speak for biblical truth.
[01:11:11] So just so you know why was he arrested?
[01:11:13] Well, he was accused of violating the
[01:11:14] public official election act and the
[01:11:16] local education autonomy act. Prior to
[01:11:19] attending a court hearing on Monday uh
[01:11:22] for on the warrant for his arrest, the
[01:11:24] conservative pastor participated in a
[01:11:25] protest that was held by Christian
[01:11:28] groups in which he said that the state
[01:11:30] is quote the same as Hitler and the
[01:11:34] Nazis end quote. And his arrest uh would
[01:11:37] be a confirmation of his claim.
[01:11:39] According to this article, he shouted
[01:11:41] the words that Lee James Young has to
[01:11:44] die for Korea to live.
[01:11:47] Fighting Nazis, guys.
[01:11:50] Everybody everywhere is fighting Nazis
[01:11:51] at all times. It's just the only thing
[01:11:52] that's ever happened in the history of
[01:11:53] the world is these Nazis. And obviously,
[01:11:56] if you don't allow
[01:11:58] this museum to come in and allow
[01:12:01] Christians to have a leg here,
[01:12:03] Christians,
[01:12:05] well, then obviously the Holocaust is
[01:12:06] going to happen again. I think it's it's
[01:12:08] pretty sound.
[01:12:10] This all feels right to me. If I had to
[01:12:14] today uh give you my best guess as to
[01:12:18] why Charlie Kirk was assassinated, it's
[01:12:20] because an offer came to him uh to
[01:12:23] become the next moon to turn Turning
[01:12:25] Point, which is already a hundred
[01:12:26] million dollar organization into a
[01:12:29] multi-billion dollar um organization
[01:12:32] like in real estate and purchasing
[01:12:34] businesses and doing all sorts of
[01:12:36] things, working with the military um and
[01:12:40] the top politicians in the world
[01:12:44] and you just turn the other way. Don't
[01:12:46] ask questions about where the money is
[01:12:47] coming from or how you're getting the
[01:12:49] money. Just keep things afloat and keep
[01:12:52] poisoning the minds of the youth and
[01:12:54] keep saying that you're doing all this
[01:12:55] in the name of the Lord because you know
[01:12:57] why not? If Moon could traffic, help the
[01:13:00] CIA traffic
[01:13:02] uh in the name of the Lord, why why
[01:13:05] couldn't Charlie Kirk's organization do
[01:13:07] that? Hell was Charlie Kirk doing in
[01:13:10] Korea? Okay, this is my best guess. I
[01:13:13] think this is what Charlie Kirk said no
[01:13:15] to. I think this is what Charlie Kirk
[01:13:17] turned down. And I would imagine that if
[01:13:20] you're lieutenants and you're thinking
[01:13:23] this is a lot of money, a big payday,
[01:13:27] uh you might betray him. You might
[01:13:30] betray him for that. So,
[01:13:33] uh that's all I have for you today. Very
[01:13:34] long episode, but a very important
[01:13:36] episode to see how all of this comes
[01:13:38] together. We're going to take a break
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[01:15:51] I hope it's obvious to you now that they
[01:15:53] infiltrated the Christian faith. Uh it's
[01:15:56] very apparent to me they infiltrated
[01:15:58] Christian organizations. Um and we are
[01:16:03] we've been under the spell of a
[01:16:04] psychological operation. That is what
[01:16:06] happened here. These people are not
[01:16:08] pastors. These people are soldiers. Uh
[01:16:10] these people are not influencers. These
[01:16:12] people are soldiers. And the war is on
[01:16:15] us. The war is for your mind. And you
[01:16:18] can recognize this very simply, right?
[01:16:20] You cannot be a Christian and ignore
[01:16:21] what's happening in Gaza. You can't just
[01:16:23] pretend that that's okay. Uh you cannot
[01:16:25] be a Christian and not pursue truth or
[01:16:27] try to demonize those who pursue it. I
[01:16:28] think that's that's self-evident, right?
[01:16:31] And um yeah, I hope that this episode
[01:16:33] has woke has woken a lot of people up. I
[01:16:37] hope people have been awakened to how
[01:16:40] severely all of us have been
[01:16:42] manipulated, myself included. I will
[01:16:44] never unsee this. And it is a cancer. It
[01:16:47] really is a cancer. If you'd like to
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[01:17:01] You can buy a hard copy autographed
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[01:17:11] Portuguese, and French channels now.
[01:17:12] Link in the description. I'll read our
[01:17:15] top comment from yesterday's episode.
[01:17:17] Somebody wrote, this is really funny.
[01:17:19] Ben Shapiro is the type of guy that
[01:17:21] wakes you up to tell you that he's going
[01:17:23] to sleep. Absolutely hilarious. Yeah,
[01:17:26] they're doing more releasing content on
[01:17:29] my old Instagram channel. It is bonkers.
[01:17:32] It really is. But they are also just not
[01:17:35] relevant anymore.
[01:17:37] Vera Black Designs writes, "Hey,
[01:17:39] Candace. So Dan Flood's hand signals and
[01:17:41] the guy in brown in the front row that
[01:17:44] pulled his sleeves at the exact time
[01:17:45] that Charlie's life was taken. Do you
[01:17:46] think there was something there or is it
[01:17:48] a coincidence? I don't believe it was a
[01:17:49] coincidence much. You're talking
[01:17:51] referring to Rick Rick Cutler. Yes, he
[01:17:53] has a very complicated history. We
[01:17:55] haven't even gone into him. His history
[01:17:56] of the DoD, his family's history.
[01:17:59] Listen, at the end of the day, I feel
[01:18:02] strongly that an operation to
[01:18:04] assassinate Charlie Kirk took place in
[01:18:06] that day and people are implicated.
[01:18:07] That's the how. We're still working on.
[01:18:10] I think we've discovered the why. It It
[01:18:12] makes the whole story make sense. What
[01:18:14] was going on, Charlie, the Doge, the
[01:18:17] offer from BB Night and Yahoo, the weird
[01:18:20] uh possession that overtook Christian
[01:18:22] Zionists to tell you that investigating
[01:18:24] this would be completely wrong. I feel
[01:18:26] like Moon Inc. passed his prologue on
[01:18:28] that one. Jennifer K8033
[01:18:32] writes, "Candice, have you seen or
[01:18:34] watched the work that John Bray has done
[01:18:36] regarding his theory on Charlie? It is
[01:18:37] pretty compelling. I pray for you and
[01:18:39] your family. Say stay safe and thank you
[01:18:41] for apologizing to the horse."
[01:18:43] Yeah, I'm sorry to the horse
[01:18:44] again. Out of control. I was out of
[01:18:46] control. But Ben is still fake and gay.
[01:18:50] Yes, I have seen John Bray and the work
[01:18:54] that he's doing. I find it to be very
[01:18:56] compelling as well. and I have been
[01:18:58] communicating with him behind the
[01:18:59] scenes. There's so much happening and
[01:19:01] there are so many rabbit holes to go
[01:19:04] under and again that's under the
[01:19:06] category category of the how and until I
[01:19:09] feel totally certain about how it was
[01:19:10] accomplished. I don't want to produce a
[01:19:12] theory because I'm under so much
[01:19:13] scrutiny and if I say one thing and I
[01:19:14] get one thing wrong uh then they
[01:19:16] suddenly pretend, oh my god, so radical
[01:19:18] everything's been debunked.
[01:19:20] The why I feel certain about. I
[01:19:22] suggested that it was trafficking when I
[01:19:25] started looking at the route of the
[01:19:26] Egyptian planes and how they were
[01:19:28] tracking Turning Point USA FA SA faith
[01:19:30] and pastors for years and this sort of
[01:19:33] infiltration and overtaking of Turning
[01:19:35] Point USA that this faith uh faith just
[01:19:39] came on very suddenly like that's not
[01:19:40] what we were doing. Charlie and I were
[01:19:41] going around talking about free markets
[01:19:42] and capitalism. I blinked and suddenly
[01:19:44] it was everything was about the Lord and
[01:19:47] everybody is talking about the Lord and
[01:19:50] but spiritually you're like this doesn't
[01:19:52] feel like this is about truth or honesty
[01:19:55] or Jesus Christ at all. Actually
[01:19:58] actually feels like you're being
[01:19:59] controlled by people who hate Jesus
[01:20:02] Christ. Actually just a vibe that I get.
[01:20:06] Uh
[01:20:07] this person writes, "Look into Paul E.
[01:20:10] Vali.
[01:20:13] I did already retired Army intel
[01:20:15] officer. He co-wrote the book Mind War
[01:20:18] with Michael Aquino Aquino who was an
[01:20:21] Army Intel psychological operations
[01:20:23] officer and an avowed Satanist because
[01:20:27] Paul Valley is also on the advisory
[01:20:30] board of Turning Point USA. Well, it
[01:20:32] doesn't matter as long as you got a big
[01:20:33] enough check as we've learned. Who
[01:20:35] cares? He worships Satan. Okay, they're
[01:20:39] doing the kind of Christianity that can
[01:20:40] be bought clearly. And yes, that is
[01:20:43] true, by the way, because I have looked
[01:20:45] into that. B James, actually, I should
[01:20:48] add that Skyler to make a note to
[01:20:50] military connections here because I do
[01:20:52] believe that he has um some connection
[01:20:54] to Fort Wuka as well as we dive back
[01:20:56] into that. B. James writes, "Hi,
[01:20:58] Candace. My girlfriend and I listen to
[01:21:00] you every episode while we are at work
[01:21:02] and then we talk about when we get home.
[01:21:03] It would mean the world to her if you
[01:21:04] could just say a quick hello to
[01:21:06] Christian. Hi Christian. I hope you
[01:21:09] didn't misspell your name. Is it
[01:21:10] Christina? Because it could have been
[01:21:11] Christina and he could have just
[01:21:12] misfired there. Whether you are
[01:21:14] Christian or you are Christina or you
[01:21:16] are a Christian Christina, I would like
[01:21:18] to say hello to you and thank you guys
[01:21:20] for watching the episode every day.
[01:21:21] Really appreciate that. Um all of you, I
[01:21:23] appreciate you all so much. I loved
[01:21:25] yesterday seeing Maggie's Instagram blow
[01:21:28] up. That was awesome. She deserved that.
[01:21:30] I love that for her making the difficult
[01:21:32] decision at the time. But making the
[01:21:33] right decision, you should always be
[01:21:35] rewarded for that. Free hour speech
[01:21:37] writes, "Turning Point USA, nothing to
[01:21:40] see here."
[01:21:42] Yeah, never anything to see but
[01:21:43] pyrochnics. Living for his glory daily
[01:21:46] writes, "This is why you have to look at
[01:21:48] Ferris and Dan Wilks explains another
[01:21:50] reason for Ben Shapiro's push against
[01:21:52] you and the push to get into Turning
[01:21:54] Point. I'm just a mom who is not blind
[01:21:57] to the lies anymore sending my research
[01:21:59] tonight." That's funny you say that
[01:22:00] because I had a dream. It was so clear.
[01:22:05] I promise you. You can actually fact
[01:22:06] check this with um Village Crazy Lady,
[01:22:09] my girl Mel over on X because I woke my
[01:22:12] husband up. It was after Ben first
[01:22:13] attacked me and I was like, "That's
[01:22:14] weird. I don't know what his investment
[01:22:15] is in this." And I had another vivid
[01:22:17] dream. The dream was so vivid. It was
[01:22:19] like, if you've ever seen Harry Potter
[01:22:20] and like when they have like the chess
[01:22:23] board scene and they're having a a
[01:22:25] wizard war, but they're using they're
[01:22:27] playing a game of chess. It was
[01:22:29] basically a game of chess and
[01:22:32] Ben was one of the pieces and what I saw
[01:22:36] in this dream or how I felt because you
[01:22:37] know there's no words in this is that he
[01:22:40] was being sent out and I woke up at
[01:22:41] literally open my hose up at 4:00 a.m.
[01:22:43] in the morning and I said I just had a
[01:22:44] dream that we have to look into the
[01:22:45] Wilks brothers. So weird that Ben the
[01:22:47] reason he's sending out that he's being
[01:22:49] sent out is because the Wilks brothers
[01:22:50] are freaking out about something. Swear
[01:22:52] to you Mel Village crazy lady can show
[01:22:54] you the text. And I then woke up and I
[01:22:56] messaged I woke up and I I got started
[01:22:59] and Mel messaged me and she said
[01:23:01] something about the seven mountain
[01:23:02] mountain mandate and then she mentioned
[01:23:04] the Wils brothers and I was like that is
[01:23:05] so crazy that you are messaging me this
[01:23:07] because I had a dream at 4 a.m. they
[01:23:09] were not on my mind at all. I don't
[01:23:11] actually really know anything about
[01:23:11] them. It's not like they've ever been
[01:23:12] like a part of the Daily Wire operations
[01:23:14] or anything. Uh but they do fund
[01:23:17] PragerU. They do fund turning uh I don't
[01:23:20] sorry I said turning point say they do
[01:23:21] fund Prageru and they do fund the Daily
[01:23:23] Wire and they are not
[01:23:27] you know evangelical Christians they
[01:23:29] fund the mega churches they started Rob
[01:23:31] McCoyy's church actually they funded it
[01:23:33] so that was interesting which is what
[01:23:34] she was telling me and I looked into it
[01:23:35] and all that's true anyways I know I'm
[01:23:37] allowed to talk about my dreams before
[01:23:38] everyone starts freaking out but um I'm
[01:23:41] going to still talk about my dreams
[01:23:42] especially when they're that vivid and I
[01:23:44] have never dreamed more vividly um and
[01:23:46] more precisely than since Charlie Kirk
[01:23:49] has been assassinated. It's it's
[01:23:50] unbelievable. Like it's it was
[01:23:52] disturbing me in the weeks after his
[01:23:54] death. How vivid the dreams were, how I
[01:23:55] was being woken up from my sleep, I
[01:23:58] imagine this is exactly what Charlie was
[01:24:00] going through in 2018 when he was having
[01:24:02] visions that he was going to die. That's
[01:24:03] kind of what's happening to me now about
[01:24:06] different things that have happened um
[01:24:09] in this investigation or you know things
[01:24:11] that were happening with Charlie.
[01:24:12] Anyways, for whatever that's worth. And
[01:24:15] just reminding you guys as before we
[01:24:16] sign off that we have a twohour book
[01:24:18] club tomorrow. We will not have an
[01:24:19] episode, but we will have a two-hour
[01:24:20] book club because we're going back to
[01:24:22] not doing Friday episodes unless we do
[01:24:23] an occasional thing that we toss you.
[01:24:25] And that's to make up for the book club
[01:24:28] that we missed at the end of last year.
[01:24:30] So, it will be at 4:00 p.m. Eastern. If
[01:24:34] you have not signed up to the book club,
[01:24:36] you should. we get to get much deeper
[01:24:38] into these uh topics and you can do that
[01:24:41] by just going to kennisens.com.
[01:24:44] Beyond that you guys, we will see you on
[01:24:46] Monday.
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